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The Wells Fargo Active cash credit card. Visit Wells Fargo.com ActiveCash Terms apply. You see in the won't be fooled twice department, what happened to us last week was we were on the road, storm chasing. I thought we'd get home Thursday and we ended up being out on the road until early in the Morning, Friday. This week we're also going to be out on the road. That's why we're jam packing a Show on Tuesday, June 16, the year of our Lord 2026. Because we can't go seven whole days between shows. I mean it's savagery. Who in the world does that? So we are jam packed. We're high atop a glorious really, really comfortable downtown Nashville, Tennessee. And we got to put a button on this Brendan Sorsby thing. Now who would have thought, Jesse, if we would have told ourselves the two highest performing videos we're gonna have like all spring and summer are gonna be Brendan Sorsby centric videos. What would you have thought Brendan Sorsby had done? Your mind goes to really dark places as it turns out. Well, we all know the circumstances so I got some more to say about that. But it's a loaded mailbag show and for the first time we're not merely taking questions. Several of you have just presented comments. Some of them nice, I think some of them pretty rude. But we're going to answer them on the show and it's going to be fun. We got a big day tomorrow. We're going to be storm chasing. I don't actually think I'll talk more about that later. So I'm just going to tell you if you want to follow along with the stream, Storm chaser Brad Arnold, that's where we'll be streaming that thing. Friend of the program Prez is coming along for the ride because he moved his dentist appointment. They're watching us in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, Victoria, Texas, Mystic, Connecticut, Albuquerque, New Mexico, tuned in as well. Please make sure you subscribe to the channel. And the reason we're we're doing Hurry up right here is because I don't want to have a two and a half hour show and we've got a loaded, I mean loaded mailbag. Listen to how heavy that pack of papers is. So without further ado or further to do, as Meemaw would say, let's get into it first up. This actually wasn't first up. We, we cheated and put this at the top of the show because I wanted to go ahead and get this out of the way. Matt from Nashville, Tennessee leads us off. He said, aside from becoming the villains of college athletics, what exactly did Texas Tech and Cody Campbell gain by staking their reputations as well as Texas Techs on an overhyped quarterback prospect? Two stances that I have here, one I have across the board, and that is benefit of hindsight is not allowed in These sorts of debates. And if you want to make points on their own merit, be my guest. If you got a problem with the way Texas Tech handled themselves, if you don't like the way Cody Campbell pops off at the mouth, well, that's, that's all well and good, but what you can't do is do this thing where, you know, they signed Brendan Sorsby and then they found out what everyone found out and kind of found it out at the same time. And then they went through all what they went through and now it's blown up and you're sitting there, well, it shouldn't have taken him. Well, that wasn't really on the docket. That wasn't really on the radar when they decided to take him. So let's just. Independent of what you think about how Texas Tech handled this whole deal, and I've spoken my piece on it, and most everyone in the free world has as well. Independent of what you think about that, let's at least do this. Let's at least be fair and honest about the chain of events here. So I'm going to read you something. Sort of a paper popper of a stat line. 18 of 32, 137 yards, no touchdowns, two interceptions. What does that, what does that mean to you? Does that ring any bells? Because that was the stat line on January 1st of Brendan Sorsby. No, it wasn't. That was the stat line of Baron Morton, the previous quarterback there in the playoff game, the one and done that Texas Tech had in the playoffs. And it was that moment, or shortly thereafter, where Texas Tech realized, we're a quarterback away. Rest of this team's good enough. Rest of next year's team will probably be good enough. We're a quarterback away. Everybody realized that. Anyone who watched that Orange bowl realized it. That was January 1st, January 4th, boom. Brennan Sorsby to Texas Tech. Then you fast forward all the way through January, all the way through February and March, and you get towards the end of April and April 27th is when this story broke. So the first thing you can't do is you can't say, well, they rolled the dice on a guy that they knew bet on games and would come with all this baggage. Cause they didn't know he had bet on games and they didn't know he would come with any baggage whatsoever. Now that's where the period is placed in that sentence. Then if you want to call him overhyped, I don't even know where that comes from. I don't even know that Anyone in our mailbag is qualified to evaluate Brendan Sorsby. Maybe you are, maybe you aren't. I don't. Jesse, do you think he was hyped? I didn't even view Brendan Sorsby as. When I say hyped, I don't mean was Texas Tech excited about him. Yeah, they were excited about him. Does anyone out there disagree that he was going to be an upgrade from Baron Morton to whatever degree notwithstanding? Doesn't everybody pretty much agree that he would have been an upgrade? So you should have been excited about it. I didn't see people hyping Brendan Soaresby like this. I saw him looking at it and saying, hey, man, Texas Tech got better at quarterback. You know, they're going to have a good roster around him. They're going to make another run and hopefully go deeper than just making the playoffs. That was. That was. I didn't get the sense that he was overhyped. Then again, I only cover college football year round, so maybe I missed something then. The third part of this, the part that most people take issue with, is the way Cody Campbell has handled himself, the way Texas Tech has handled themselves. And it seems like there were multiple voices, you know, multiple microphones out there. I just got to tell you, I wonder, and it's baseless because I'll never be able to know, but I just really wonder how different this would have been case by case, if this mess would have fallen in Oregon's lap, how would Oregon have handled it? If this mess were to have fallen in Arkansas's lap, how would Arkansas have handled it? And my point there is obvious, and that is that winning is what matters more than anything in this sport. Now, it's not what matters more than anything, but really, when you come down to it and you combined the interest of everything from a coach to an AD to the fan base to the alumni base, to the administration, they have different self interests or individual interests. But if you Venn diagram that thing, winning football games is where it overlaps. That's the most important thing. And actions flow downstream of that goal. And you could put anything you want to in a press release. Everyone understands the deal here. The deal here is not that complicated. You went and got him, just as Arkansas may have, or Minnesota may have, or Virginia Tech may have. It just so happens that it was Texas Tech that went and got a guy that they thought was the missing piece. After they got him, they realized, oh, we got trouble here. And they had one of two choices. They could either choose the route they went, which is to fight it. And let's be real now, Brennan Sorsby fought it as well. Like, it's not just Texas Tech deciding to fight it as Brendan Sorsby deciding to fight it. Or they could have just said, all right, we quit, he's done. Let's move on. And I just got to be honest with you, this is not to absolve Texas Tech of anything. They're big boys. They can speak for themselves. I'm just saying I don't get the sense this would have played out much different most anywhere else. There are exceptions. I understand that. There are places like I. Knowing the compliance and knowing the administrative structure of Ohio State, I don't think Ryan Day would have been able to go down the road that Texas Tech went down, because they got all kinds. They have red tape wrapped around pretty much every orifice up there. It's crazy that they win at the level they do, but most places it would have happened close to the same way. I believe that. I can't prove that. Maybe I'm dead wrong about that. But I am excited slash interested to see what it's like at Texas Tech moving forward. Because you. You got to be. You got to be stupid to think that that relationship between them and their league office is not still very frosty, and them and the other member institutions in that league and the Big 12 is not still very frosty. Oh, it's going to be. It's going to be very, very much so, even if Sorcerer's not playing this year. So that's my feelings on that. Let's move on. Oh, this is a good question here. Mailbag's loaded. Like I said, Kevin in Ohio said, is there a reason you talk so little about recruiting? Recruiting is such a major part of college football, and I'd love to hear more of your thoughts on the big recruiting battles and future stars as these commitments happen. Man, I'm glad he submitted this because, dude, I used to be so hardcore into recruiting. It is the lifeblood of this sport every bit as much as the draft is the lifeblood of the National Football League. I think two things have happened. Really? Three things have happened here, Kevin. Okay, so I'm going to mention the third thing. First, interest has greatly waned. When we talk recruiting on the show. The other two things I'm going to mention are the reasons why I think interest has waned. And I can relate to them. So I'll just share my feelings because I think my feelings are pretty closely reflected in the general marketplace. The first thing that's happened is Churn. This is not difficult to figure out if you've covered college football or followed college football for a long time. The churn in the rosters via the transfer portal has happened enough years in a row now that you've become jaded and you've become very turned off by the whole process. And you're not turned off watching your team. That's why the TV ratings are still really big. We talk about this all the time. People point out TV ratings and, well, since the ratings are big, there must be nothing wrong with college football. That's not always true. It's just that you have to know where to look. Okay. And one of the first areas that I always point to for people to look at if you want to see a little bit of a symptom of some sickness in the sport, is a fraction of people are as passionate about following recruiting as used to. It used to be that it was a whole industry, and it still is, but, I mean, people followed it religiously, almost like it was its own separate entity. Like, you had the games on the field in the fall and you had recruiting, which was this whole separate sport. I was headfirst into it, man. Like, I was all about it. And then the reason that it changed, one of the reasons is because of Churn and because you kept on watching guys commit and then leave. And. And it's not that transfers never happen, but transfers used to be the rare exception to the rule, and now they are much more the norm. And so obviously the mentality becomes, why should I get overly invested in following the recruitment of a sophomore in high school? Cause trust me, like, if you're younger and you don't know what it used to be like, you would start paying attention to sophomores in high school and then you would get like the rivals junior rankings, but you would already know, like, who had offers and stuff like that. Like, I knew about Jadevion Clowney in 10th grade. I think he was a 10th grader. Julio Jones, people knew about him in south Alabama when He was in 10th grade. A.J. green in South Carolina. So you'd follow him because, like Julio Jones, once he commits to Alabama, it's this massive win for Alabama. Once South Carolina keeps Jadavion Clowney at home, once Georgia pulls AJ Green out of South Carolina, these are like ticker tape parade moments for these programs. If you fast forward to modern day, it's still a big deal. But your mentality now is, all right, we got him for his freshman year, then we'll have to deal With a whole separate recruitment with teams trying to poach him in the transfer portal. And it's just a turn off when it comes to following recruiting. It's a turn off so you become really jaded towards it. And then the other thing I think even separate and beyond that is the transactional nature of recruiting. So this is where I really need you to hear me preface what I'm about to say. This is the preface right here. I know money always changed hands in recruiting. I know. I've personal knowledge of it. I know. But it was way different. It was way different when it was under the table, when it was bagman. It was almost like romanticized is like people kind of whispered about it and you kind of knew it was happening, but sort of everyone was doing it. So like no one's really going to rat each other out. And there was this code also back in the day of who you could and couldn't rat out. Like if someone came in your state from outside your state and was throwing money around, well, then it was okay to narc on him. But interstate payment, no, no, no, that's all's well, all's well there. So back in the day, yeah, money changed hands. The difference was, number one, the amounts weren't nearly as big. And I don't care about the amount. I couldn't care less if it's $10 or $10 million. As long as, you know, people are roughly trafficking in the same amount, I don't really care about all that. But here's what started to happen. What started to happen is the relationship and the value of the relationship really started to wane. And back in the day that was not the case. Even though money was changing hands back in the day, kids were committing to the schools they were committing to because they bought into going to that school. Because if you're down to Tennessee or Michigan or Florida and all of them have some degree of cash on the table, it's not like it is today where Michigan offers you 1.2, but. But then Florida comes in, despite the fact that you've been a verbal commit to Michigan for a year and a half and Florida hasn't even been on the radar. Florida could just come in at the last minute now and offer you 1.7plus some other perks and you're going to Florida. And it's not that it's wrong. It's that from the perspective of someone wanting to follow recruiting, you look at that and say, I just wasted a year and a half paying attention to this kid being Committed to Michigan only for the transactional nature of like nil and whatnot. Now to pull the rug out from under everything I thought I knew at the last minute. Well, I'm not going to invest time and energy and emotion into caring about this the way I used to. That is where things have been. Now that's bad news. Here's the good news. This could radically change. Like, one of the things that has me excited about this Senate bill or any structure being introduced back into college football is if you have five years to play five, and especially if you have one penalty free transfer that takes us almost back to the way it used to be, really. And it makes commitment and it makes the initial signing out of high school mean a whole lot more. Because percentage wise, you're a whole lot more likely to stick around where you commit, which means I care more about your high school recruitment. Again, this is, this is one area where we can go back in time. Not fully, but we can go back to the way it used to be. And also, like if you have a more structured revenue sharing world, if you have, you know, caps on nil. I don't know how feasible this is, but if you have that, then it kind of goes back to the way it used to be, only there's a lot more money. But if everyone's roughly, roughly. If the big boys roughly passing around the same amounts of money, well, then there's not an offer coming in last minute that two times what everyone else is offering that renders the past three years irrelevant in terms of following a recruitment. Selfishly, that's why I hope that it happens. One of the reasons that I hope it happens, because I love following recruiting. You will not find someone who followed recruiting more hardcore than me, but I've just been turned off by it in recent years. Still follow it. But we also don't talk about it on the show because it doesn't show to have the interest from you guys that it once did. What does have interest is the Pate State store and specifically the new items we have in there. Red, White and chew. I mean, July 4th, right around the corner. 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we move on. Important question here. Really important question about bad guys. Jack I don't know where he's from, but Jack said Can you rank the top five villain arcs going into 2026 by public perception? Well, I got four. I didn't come up with a fifth one because I don't think Trinidad Shambliss is a villain. Like Jack said, Trinidad Chambliss, a Trinidad Chambliss is not a villain. The only people mad at Trinidad Chambliss are the ncaa and no one really cares that the NCAA is mad at anyone. I don't think Mississippi State folks love him, but I don't think that they view him as a villain any more so than another Ole Miss quarterback. So I do think Texas Tech fits here because of what just happened. Now it's going to be a different level of villain because Sourceby is not going to play. He's off to the supplemental draft. But I do think the lingering effect of people having witnessed what they just witnessed, which the rest of the world viewed, is unjustified and Texas Tech disagrees. But you're talking about villains. That's the nature of a villain. The villain is doing what the villain wants to do and what they think is right and everyone disagrees. Voila. You have a villain. I do wonder what it's going to be like for Texas Tech on the road this year because it was never going to be pleasant, but maybe a different level of vitriol. I could see that. I also stay in the Lone Star State. I think Texas could be presented as one of the big villains this year, and that's just because a lot of people think Texas gets credit that it doesn't deserve. And case by case, you're not wrong. It's happened on this show before. I'll go as far as to say so. You're not always wrong when you say that Texas has the third best odds to win the national title this year. Archmanding is going to get a lot of preseason love. Texas is going to get a lot of preseason love. Sark is going to get a lot of preseason love, but also a lot of preseason pressure. And people are going to look and say, why is Sark getting credit right now? What has he done? What has he accomplished? What has he won? Well, in terms of national titles, none. What does Archmanning want? Well, in terms of Heisman trophies, none. If that's the only way that we measure success, then you're right. Texas has not done anything. A lot of people will be predictive in nature. I'm going to be one of them and I expect a lot from Texas this year and that'll turn a lot of people off. So I would say Texas is going to be one. I think Lane Kiffin is on this list more than Trinidad Chambliss, because I think people are going to. People will look back and I think a lot of people have a problem just that Lane left Ole Miss. I think a lot of people have a problem with that. So I'm sure if we had Lane on a show right now, or Verge, Asbury or like any representative from lsu, of course they have their version of the events. But you're not the public. The public is the public. The public is not changing how they feel. So I'm sure there's a large enough portion of the college football public that thinks Lane Kiffin did something wrong by leaving or taking the LSU job, that they'll villainize him. And then the last one is not an active player or an active coach. But I don't think the villainization, if you will, of Greg Sankey is going anywhere. Number one, he's the commissioner of the SEC and the SEC is largely despised outside the South. He is right smack dab in the middle of the playoff debate. And while I think he's on the right side, he is alone right now on the side of let's not Expand this thing to 24. Which is why, as far as I'm concerned, God bless Greg Sankey on that front. And thirdly, I think that as we get into, as we get down the road a little ways on this Senate bill, it's going to require him to continue to be outspoken. Now, that's the frontier where maybe he and I have some, some differing viewpoints. But most people don't like Greg Sankey because of the three letters on his chest. So Texas Tech, Texas Kiffin, Greg Sankey. I would say those are the ones that I would circle. Moving right along, chugging right along. Chuck hit me up. It's pretty wordy, but essentially he's talking about being born and raised in the Northeast. But he spent his four years of college in Ohio. And whenever he travels across the country, he feels the major footprint that is college football and in many cases as a result of local ties to teams, lacks in the Northeast. So the question is, what needs to change in the Northeast for college football to be larger, to be a bigger deal? I don't know that anything can change. I think this is just the way it is. As Bruce Hornsby once said, there's no viable national brand in the Northeast outside of Penn State. If you view Penn State as a Northeastern team, which I really don't, when I think of Penn State, I think of, I don't know, wilderness. I think of a more remote program that happens to be northeast of where I live. But I don't think of when I think of like New York, Boston, Hartford, Philadelphia, all the way up to Vermont and New Hampshire and Maine. I am not grouping State College, Pennsylvania in there. But if you want to, for argument's sake, you can. But outside of Penn State, who up there, not just now, but historically, are you getting on board with saying, all right, that's the Northeast team right there? I don't mean who markets themselves as that. I mean who is that? So that's the first problem you have. Second problem is high school football almost non existent up there. Like, you do not think of the Northeast at all. You don't see the Northeast well represented outside of New Jersey when it comes to high school recruiting very much. And obviously because of those things, you don't have like the natural tie or attachment to the sport. And Northeastern sports fans have always skewed heavily pro sports. So I guess the way they feel about baseball in New England is the way they feel about college football where I come from or in Ohio. And I don't think that that's really changing And I'm fine with that. You know, some, some battles are worth fighting. Trying to proliferate the northeastern corridor of sports fandom with college football. It's great. If it happens. And make no mistake, like the biggest moments in college football, those TV markets tune in. But you're never going to get the Boston television market to perform like the Birmingham television market when it comes to college football consumption. For what I think are obvious reasons, we move on. Keelan for Heisman hit us up. What do you know? He said it's very annoying seeing the discourse around Texas and Arch Manning last year basically guaranteeing Arch a Heisman in year one. But when Keelan Russell comes around, higher rated recruit, by the way, everyone in the national media is super cautious. Why is that? Well, we did have to check the Rivals rankings. Keelan Russell, number two rated quarterback in his cycle. Arch Manning, number one rated quarterback in his respective cycle. However, point is taken. You're saying these are very comparable talents from different classes at the same position. Arch Manning got hyped to the moon and back. And you're saying a lot of people feel kind of cautious around Keelan Russell. Yes, they are. I don't think it has anything to do with Keelan Russell. I think it has everything to do with Arch Manning. And I think that Arch Manning is just the exception because of his last name. There was never a world where Arch Manning wasn't going to be treated different than other players comparable to him just from a talent or rating standpoint. But take every other quarterback man, like remove Arch Manning, take the other five star kids from his class, take the other five star kids from Keelan Russell's class like nobody else in recent memory has been treated like Arch Manning. Now is it dumb that he got treated that way because of his last name? Yeah, a little bit. And the closer you get to the sport, like people who watch it every day, I don't think many of those people treated Arch Manning the way the drive by sports media did. Like the drive by sports media that otherwise would never touch college football. They looked and they said, ooh, a Manning. Ooh, he's committed to Texas. And you know, you know, the Dion tax also applies to Arch. There's an Arch tax. So the Dion Tax is a term we had to make up on the show for the, for the fact that Deion Sanders was so popular he transcended college football, which means he made a lot of people outside of college football talk about college football, which is a good thing. However, when people outside of college football talk about College football, they tend to talk about it really loud despite the fact that they know almost nothing about the sport. And it's cringy, but you got to deal with it. Well, the Arch Tax exists as well because of Arch Manning's last name and who he is. That's not taking anything away from him as a talent. But his talent alone would not have gotten him the coverage. He's gotten the name and the talent did because of that name. A lot of people who otherwise don't touch college football talked about Arch Manning. Everyone had a take on Arch Manning. So a lot of your frustration is not Arch Manning. Your frustration is misguided. It should be towards how people treated Arch Manning because he's just who he is, which is, by the way, been a model player, model citizen, has never been in an ounce of trouble like nothing like that. Why would you be mad at Arch Manning if you can't stand the coverage of Arch Manning, get mad at the coverage. Don't get mad at Arch Manning. So this year, here's the irony of this all, if that's a proper usage of the word. We'll check with Atlantis. I think both of them are going to have big years because I think Arch is going to shine this year and I think Keelan Russell is going to end up being the starting quarterback at Alabama and I'm sky high on him as well. But I don't think it's a, it's a anti Keelan Russell thing as much as it's a irrationally pro Arch Manning, despite all conventional logic thing. You're right. People hyped him right out of high school and people considered him a failure when he didn't immediately take the job. And in year two, when he finally got a start, when he didn't immediately thrust himself into the finalist Heisman picture, what's wrong? Is he a bust? And that goes down a whole nother rabbit hole of how dumb the the idea, the concept of a player being a bust is like. Think about that for a second. Arch is not going to end up being a bust. But let's say he did flame out entirely. What would happen, because I've seen it happen a million times before, is a bunch of people who talk about sports for a living or write about sports for a living who hyped him up would never look in the mirror. They would look at the player and say, you didn't fulfill on my expectations. That means you're a bust. Instead of them saying, you didn't fulfill on my expectations, my expectations must have Been wrong. I'm the bust. No one in our business ever says I'm the bust. That's why I throw the clown nose on when I go over five picking Indiana games. I'm the bust. They let me know about it too. Let's move on. Benji from Ames, Iowa. What are the most undervalued aspects of the sport? Great question. I wrote down four things. I guarantee you our audience could come up with 100 more. One of the things that's really underrated about college football is Fridays on campus. I get to be there most every Friday. I get to be at a big game on a Friday and the rising level of energy on a typical Friday in the fall, weather's a little bit cooler. Hopefully it's good weather and it's cooler and you know, kids are either skipping class or class is a joke that Friday and, and the buzz is in the air. And you've got folks rolling in from, you know, all across the region a lot of times, maybe game days in town. There's nothing like that buzz on a Friday. You don't even have to be on Saturday. Everybody knows Saturday is incredible. The Friday, like the rising action, if you will, of everyone having this invisible countdown clock on their forehead as you're walking around campus knowing, man, 24 hours now, 18 hours from now, 12 hours from now, it's going down right over there. Point to the stadium, right over there, it's going down. That's underrated to me. I think also what we were talking earlier about and we labeled the 2pm Eyebrow Razor is really underrated in college football. Not the eyebrow razor that you shave your eyebrow off with. Be psychotic. No, the 2pm Saturday afternoon check of the cell phone and seeing a score that comes out of nowhere, that makes your eyebrows raise on your head. Cause guys, it happens, if not every Saturday, like six or seven Saturdays out of the year. Because if you think about that noon kickoff window, you do have big noon kickoff going on. So you got at least one premier game going on. But a lot of times it's highly ranked teams favored by 16, 17 points in a game that it's good enough to be on espn, it's good enough to be on ABC or whatnot, but it's not the premier game that day. Like that's the warm up act for the 3:30 and 7:30 windows. But see, no one ever tells the underdog that. And so inevitably, multiple times per year, sometimes multiple times per Saturday, you check your phone and you're like, hold up, UCLA is doing what to Penn State, now that wasn't at 2pm Eastern because it happened on the West Coast. But that kind of score that just slaps you in the face, that's underrated because you, I don't know that you can get that anywhere else because college basketball plays multiple nights per week, so there's never that one central day. Pro sports are pro sports. So the biggest upset in the NFL pales in comparison to even a modest upset in college football. So I would say that, I would say a new out of conference destination as a fan base. Like if you're an Ohio State fan right now, you have known that you had a home and home with Texas coming up for years. And so you knew you were going to get him in Columbus last year and, and then you knew you were going to Austin the next year. And I can't tell you how many folks around Ohio State, around Columbus have had that trip circled. Like you have saved up money to book a hotel in or around Austin tickets. You've probably scoped out, you know what the concert scene is there that weekend. You've learned everything you need to learn about Austin, Texas in advance of making what will be a once in a lifetime trip. Because you don't know when the Buckeyes will ever go back to Austin, Texas and that sort of thing. I remember when we were at Penn State a few years ago and Auburn played up there and I just remember thinking to myself, first off, wow, it's my first whiteout. Secondly, when will Auburn ever come to Penn State again? And when will these people like Auburn traveled pretty well to the game? When will these people ever come to State College Pennsylvania again? That's pretty awesome if you can afford to do it. And even if you can't, if you're just watching at home, seeing your guys like Miami fans this year, seeing their team play in South Bend, Indiana, plus the romanticism of that because of how old a rivalry it is. I love that and this is probably my favorite of all that not all of the public gets to see the agedness and decrepitness of college football stadium infrastructure. I would not change if I could. Neyland Stadium is a classic example of this, but it's not the only one. You turn on the TV on Saturday and Neyland Stadium looks like a orange and white circus. It's incredible. Maybe you're even a ticket holder. You know the venue's a little bit older when you're walking into it, but you sit in your seat and you see the seating bowl and you see the field it's incredible. It's one of the great scenes in college football. Let me tell you what the visiting team sees. The visiting team sees all that, and then they see a wrought iron gate in the end zone and they walk through it. And if you're Lane Kiffin, you get stuff thrown at you as you walk through it. But you walk through it and then you enter into this medieval Roman Colosseum, bowels of the building place that it looks like at one point caged animals used to be stored. It looks like several people have gone down this tunnel and not come out alive. The locker rooms are way too small. The media room is something that would make a broom closet look palatial. And I could not love it more. I've been in there so many times when I go to Tennessee, sometimes I'll have Bill Martin just let me go to the stadium. I just want to see that. I just want to see it. I just want to go see the visitors locker room. I just want to hang out there for a while. Plus, you got to understand that's on a day when the stadium's empty, when a team's in town, when Georgia's playing there, when Alabama or LSU are in there, Texas is going to go in there this year. You're bringing in pallets of food. You're bringing in cooler after cooler of Gatorade. You got all your nutrition, you got all your medical and all that stuff set up in this dark, like dank, musty, underground cavernous tunnel that is. It's not really, really built for supporting human life anymore and hasn't been for a long time. But that stuff exists in college and it does not exist in the pro game because all the pro stadiums are either new or brand new. None of them are all that old. Even Cleveland's getting a new stadium. Jesse, what's the oldest active stadium like? What are some of the. Think about this. The Arizona Cardinals stadium has been around for a while now. That would be nicer than 98% of the college football stadiums. They tore down the Georgia Dome and it was less than 25 years old, which was murder as far as I'm concerned. The Cincinnati Bengals stadium is pretty old. Lambeau is the exception to the rules. Like Fenway. That's the exception to the rule. And hey, by the way, where are Notre Dame and Wisconsin playing to kick off the season? That's right. That's right. So those are some underrated aspects. I could talk about this all day. That was a really good question. We move on in the interest of time and fairness, chris said. Honestly, I truly believe that my Ducks complete the gauntlet this year and get the trophy. I understand the skepticism, but I just can't see a healthy team this talented not at least making the natty. I hate the word natty, by the way. I hate it because I think it's disrespectful to the national championship. You want to know something weird about me? That's something weird about me. Anyway, back on the rails here, Chris continues. P.S. if we don't get blown out, it's a step up. So it's, it's full on. We're about to bring home the national championship, and then at the end it's yeah, but if we don't get blown out, it's still okay. Hey, I think something between those two things is going to happen this year. I do think Oregon will be in the playoff, and I don't think that they'll get blown out one and done. Or I guess last year they won a game and then they got blown out. I don't think that'll happen this year. Just call it a hunch. I don't think it'll happen this year. So there is a case for Oregon. Like I may pick Oregon to win the national title. I could see myself doing that. I haven't yet. But they're going to be one of the handful of teams, obviously, that I view as capable of winning the national title. So you've of course got veteran talent at quarterback and Dante Moore, really, really good wide receiver core, maybe the top defensive line in the country. Really good athletic secondary. Also like Dan Lanning, just head coach maturation. You never know how much better a guy is getting year over year and in what ways he's getting better year over year. But you assume that they are. I assume Dan Lanning is. And then the last two years, the last thing you saw from them is getting blown off the field in Pasadena two years ago by Ohio State. And then last year getting blown off the field in Atlanta by Indiana. I was at both of those games. It was ugly. And that thing was over by halftime, both games. And imagine what that does mentally. Now to a lesser person, it cripples you mentally. But Oregon is not made up of lesser people. So I just think it puts a gigantic chip on the shoulder and I think it leads to a lot of self reflection and re evaluation of processes and systems and all this. But no stone is left unturned. And you're right when you combine all that, which from an intangible perspective, I think works in their favor. And then you combine the tangibles of what that talent roster is made up of. And the fact that I would suggest this year's team is the best one that he's had there so far. He being Dan Lanning, I feel good about that. That wouldn't surprise me at all. 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Next up, good mailbag. So far Jackson sent this to us. He said, I've seen a lot of industry folks saying Nebraska won't win six games this year. Surely you think they'll be bowl eligible? Yes, if you're listening on podcast, you missed the most important part of this question because it's not the words. All due respect, it's Compton's O face. I saw that a lot last year. I got, I'm not going to say sucked in because I did it freely, but I kind of got convinced to predict Nebraska to go 102 last year because I did an episode of Bussin with the boys that if it were just zoom, I don't think I would have been talked into it. But when you, you got to understand something. When you look in those eyes, those Longing, hungry. What word am I looking for? Like victimized eyes. You realize you want better. I want better for him than he's experienced. And by proxy, that means I want better for Nebraska and Nebraska people than they've experienced. And so you try and wish cast it. You try and speak it into existence. And I thought last year, when you combine the mat rule year three rule rule thing with me predicting them to go 10 and two, I thought that's what it would take. And Instead they went 7 and 5. And I'm not going to say it culminated with what I'm about to show you, but the lasting image in my mind is what I'm about to show you. And that is we went up there to Lincoln for the Michigan game, which looked close on the final scoreboard, but did not look close at all. Standing on the sideline watching it in person and afterwards, this really sums it up. Things were all happy in the beginning of the season. Everybody's all smiles, ear to ear, predicting Nebraska to go 10 and 2. But then the baseball bat of reality hit us in the face. And this is after the Michigan Nebraska game. And I'm sitting on the field there, and I'm looking over my left shoulder, and that's Compton just laid out. He's just staring at the sky, waiting for the stadium to clear out so we could sneak back over to the airport. I had just been in Michigan's locker room before I came back out there. I don't know how long he had been laying there. So the three years Matt Rule's been there so far, five and seven, six and six, seven and five. One could say that's linear progress. One could say five wins, six wins. Seven wins means eight wins this year. One could say that. It obviously comes down to Anthony Calandria. It obviously comes down to being able to say in December, losing Kenny Mitchie was the best thing to ever happen to us because it didn't feel good at the time when Will Stein came in from the rafters and took him before he had even settled into his dorm room. So it all comes down to that. I don't really think we need to waste a whole lot more time on that. They're over. Under is six and a half right now. Now, good news, Jesse, if we want to call this good news, is it is heavily juiced to the over. Okay? So if Fanduel believed in putting out even numbers, maybe their over under win total would be seven. But they don't. Fanduel, Mike is not doing that. And so he's Putting out six and a half right now. Hey. Over, over again and forever over. Let's move on. I don't want to talk too much more. Let's move on. Go, Big Red. Let's see. What is this? This is. Oh, this is the guy that asked us about. All right, so someone asked us about this tweet. Someone said, did you see one of Dan Patrick's producers say he didn't know who you were? Okay, so this is what they were talking about. So there was this big thing last week where people were making a big deal, I guess, about how, like, there's older media and newer media, and the newer media people, their accomplishments are a lot more impressive than old school when everything was gate kept. And, like, if you were on espn, of course you were going to be a star. Those are not my words. I'm just saying that was a thought that was presented. And so apparently one of Dan Patrick's producers, or maybe former producer someone, said he wasn't there anymore. He responded. He said, well, Barstool started 22 years ago. Bill Simmons has been in the business since the 90s. They aren't building anything. They are already built. Here's the money line. I don't know who Josh Pate is, but Pat McAfee walked into a world people like Dan Patrick helped create. Show a little respect. Well, my reaction to that is as follows. It sounds like the Seton guy doesn't know I exist. That's my response to it. But the second part he said about Pat, it applies to me as well. You're never going to get me to say a bad word about Dan Patrick. I love Dan Patrick. So I talk with Paul Pabst all the time on Twitter, by the way. So somebody behind the glass there knows me or knows of me. Apparently not everyone does, but that's okay. No one asked me about this, but Dan Patrick's one of the goats in my mind. I grew up on Dan Patrick. I've got a massive, massive place in my heart for Dan Patrick. I think the dude's insanely talented. I think it's actually underrated that he's built what he's built now. People know that it's successful. But do you pay attention to how many other people who at one point were on that big ship and left that big ship and were never heard from again? Do you ever pay attention to that? Because a lot of people just disappear into the ocean when they drop off that ship, that mothership, as they like to call it. Dan Patrick didn't. I would say Dan Patrick may have even done his best work after he left espn, and that is a very, very rare thing in any day and age. So, like, Rich, Rich. I'll tell you what it was. I remember it now. Rich Eisen and Dan Patrick have been doing a sit down about those days, and it's like crack to me. I consume that stuff 10 times out of 10, because that's my childhood they're talking about. But you, man, you will never, ever catch me disparaging those guys. Like, I've never thought about this until now, Jesse, but maybe we should pursue it. If we had Dan Patrick on the speaker series, I think the episode could be like, five hours, no break. Maybe a bathroom break, maybe not. Maybe just bring an empty two liter out there. Just go and go and go. I could talk about that stuff forever, but I don't need to because he and Rich Eisen are doing it right now together. Interesting. They're watching us in West Lafayette, Indiana, Calabasas, California, and Raleigh, North Carolina. Thank you so much. The mailbag. Very, very eclectic today. Amy, hit us up. He said, are you. Or she said, are you comfortable with the private equity involvement in the Cruz Cantwell bill? I know some of you are dozing off right now. Stay tuned. Stay tuned. She continues. Do you still trust Cody Campbell and his motives with this bill? Do you really see this as saving college sports? Let's work back to front. No one bill saves college sports. The people who run college sports have to save college sports. Secondly, college sports is a whole lot stronger than, you know, the, the ventilator, like, deathbed. It's being presented as being on right now. It's very resilient. College football. Point 3. Do I trust Cody Campbell and his motives? I think that what Cody says in a lot of cases has validity to it. Even if you want to suggest that he has ulterior motives, like, I'm, I'm happy to listen to you present your theories on his ulterior motives, but I don't really care what your ulterior motives are. This kind of thing makes strange bedfellows all the time. They say that about politics, but more and more so college football has become political. And they always say, like, politics makes strange bedfellows. By the way, look at the body of this twit or Twitter question. Ted Cruz and Maria Cantwell. Those would be politically strange bedfellows, but this has brought them together to co sponsor a bill. So the Cody Campbell piece. I'm okay with it. I'm okay with it. You don't have to agree across the board with everything everyone in the room says. You don't have to like everyone in the room. I got no problem with Cody Campbell personally. I'm not saying I do. But you asked, do I still trust Cody Campbell? I'm okay with it. I'm fine with it. And then the first question was, are you comfortable with the private equity involvement in the bill? I keep asking people to show me the private equity piece of the bill, and maybe it's in there. It's 110 pages. What we've had is we've had people suggest that private equity entities are behind the bill, but that's different than being in the bill. And maybe it's just semantics there. I'll say this, Amy. I've done actually a fair amount of digging on that. The answer is yes, I am comfortable with it. And I am the person who will tell you probably about 95 times out of 100, I want nothing to do with private equity entering college sports, college football, particularly in this case. I have a pretty good hunch I know what private equity's place in all of this is, and I am more than comfortable with it. That's what I'll say about that right now. Calls this just a hunch. I'm not working on, you know, decided truth and fact here. I trust my hunch on it, and if my hunch is correct, yes, I'm totally fine with it. Moving on. This is from Reed. Reed said, this is not meant to be a diss. Here comes the diss. Jesse, this is not meant to be a diss. But you constantly say you're a regular season guy, but then a large amount of time on the show is spent talking about the post season. I get that's where the eyeballs may be, but you have real influence to move audience perspectives, in my humble opinion. So, Reid, I'm gonna have a little fun with this. But before I have fun with it, I do sincerely want to say thank you. See, this is not a question. It's just comment. And we've got room for that on the show. I respectfully, to the second point here, I don't know that I agree with that. Reid, I don't think anybody, no matter how big your voice is, has the ability to significantly move audience perspectives. I will grant you that. Maybe I could say something that's just a little more profound than anything you ever heard, or maybe McAfee could say something in a way that just, like, tugs at a heartstring and it changes a pocket of people's. Minds. But I don't think anyone, at least in this industry, has the power to use their microphone to fundamentally change public perception and public opinion. I don't believe. I don't see that happen. People largely believe what they believe. So that's the first thing. And if you're wrong, if you're right and I'm wrong, hey, great. I guess that's a net positive for our show. But I don't necessarily know that me screaming into this microphone every week. You need to care about the regular season more than the post season, and here's why is actually going to change that a whole lot. Maybe fractionally, but not a whole lot. But the answer to your first question here, your first statement is you're right. I am a regular season guy. I love college football's regular season more than the playoff. I care about your typical regular season Saturday more than the national championship game. I know that sounds crazy. Maybe I'm in the minority. I'm not alone though, I know that. But that is how I personally feel. So Reed, here's how I have to balance that. I have to understand I am in the minority on that opinion. To what degree, I'm not sure. But surely more people care about the postseason and national championship game than any one given Saturday in our audience. Surely that is the divide. Like surely that's what the fraction would look like. And so I have to stack the show for the audience. Not for me. I could go home and talk to myself in the mirror and that may sound a little bit different. I do it all the time. I encourage that kind of behavior to make sure no one's home. But as far as the show goes, I mean, how out of touch would it be? And this is respectfully back to you, Reid. How out of touch would it be for me to try and force feed a worldview that I know is not shared by most people? And by the way, I could still fully respect the regular season and celebrate the regular season. But the way I do that is by me and this staff pouring absolutely everything we have into every show during the regular season, especially those Sunday shows. I promise you, you will never see a more full throated effort behind a show or whole season than on those Sundays during the season. We put more effort into those shows than we do the show after the national championship game. I'd say it's not even close. So we don't save anything up for the next show. We squeeze the rag out entirely. Every drop is squeezed out of it and then we go right back to work for the next show 48 hours later. That, to me, is how you celebrate that ideology, more so than just trying to convince everybody to think the way you think. But I do appreciate the comment. All right, we got a question about sparks here. Dylan from Panama City, Florida. He said, do you think Kirby Smart has lost his spark? I'm a huge Georgia fan, but after a couple of underwhelming seasons, I can't help but notice that Kirby seems a little calmer on the sideline than I'd like, especially when we're playing poorly. Keep this up for just a second. Underwhelming seasons, he says. Dylan, Jesse, anybody, correct me if I'm wrong. I'm looking at the past two years in the SEC here. And it says in 2024, Georgia won the conference. Is that right? And then it says the next year, in 2025, they also won the conference. Is that right? And it says both years they made the playoff and had a first round buy. Is that accurate? Where's the underwhelming part of this? No answer. Bradley says where the playoff wins. That's what it's come to. Now, if you don't make the playoff and it's not enough to win the league, it's not enough to make the playoff. It's not enough to have won national titles already. This is different than Lanning. Like, Lanning's been doing it, but he hadn't won titles. Kirby's won titles already. Underwhelming. Dylan. Dylan, I would like you to do something. I would like you to pick up that cell phone. I know you got one. And I want you to call Austin, Texas. I want you to call Knoxville, Tennessee. Hey, call Fayetteville, Arkansas. But. But call. Call some of these other outposts and ask them if they think Kirby's last two years are underwhelming. I sound like Kirby right now. No, no, no, no. Apparently, he'd be much calmer than this. Kirby would be like he'd Eeyore. The whole thing, I guess so. Just fade into obscurity. Go Dogs. I think winning titles changed a lot for Kirby Smart. So he's entering his 11th year as a head coach. I think winning those two national championships psychologically changed a lot for the Georgia program, and I think it changed something for Kirby. And by that, I don't mean he started to try less or care less or anything like that. But I do think that psychologically there is a different way you can carry yourself. When you've been to the mountaintop twice, you've grabbed the Belt twice because you. You're no longer having to prove to people anything. Ryan Day just hit this. Sark is still trying to. Dan Lanning's still trying to. And I think that does something. It doesn't take down the intensity level, but the intensity. Maybe. Maybe things are channeled. Maybe the energy is channeled in a different way. That's just a theory. I don't think Kirby would agree with that. But maybe, like, if a. If a psychiatrist got him on a couch, they could convince him of that. That's that sort of thing. The second part, about how much more calm he is. I think anger from a head coach is very, very often tied to performance relative to the standard they've set. So that's why, like a lot of these guys, it could be Saban, it could be Kirby, it could be Kurt Signetti. You'll see him sometimes blow up in blowout games, and you'll say they're up 49 to 10. Why is he doing that? Well, it's because whatever just happened didn't meet the standard that they hold the program to. No matter what the scoreboard says. The scoreboard should actually be ignored in those situations because that's how you create bad habits. So these last two years with Kirby, you notice he's talked glowingly about his team. Like, he's never indicated or even hinted that he's unhappy with his team. In fact, it's been quite the opposite. And so I think that explains his attitude, is my point. I think he's looked at these two teams and probably thought to himself, these teams aren't as good. The capability level of these two teams at their very best are short of that which we had in 2021 or 2022. Maybe we'll get back to that level. But as for these teams here and now, their maximum potential is probably a little bit lower. But I think he's looked at them and thought to himself, why should I be angry right now? They're trying as hard as they can. They're playing their tails off. They're getting better as the season goes on. They played Bama last year at home and lost. What'd they do to him in Atlanta couple of months later? So why would you be angry at that? Conversely, you could have a more talented team than the one that he had last year or two years ago that maybe achieves at a higher level. But he looks irate because in his mind, even though they're technically winning more games, they're falling short of what they're capable of. You'd never be angry at a team for maximizing their potential. And I think these last two Georgia teams have come very close to maximizing their potential. And as a leader and as the guy who constructed the entire thing, if you look at that and you say, you know what, maybe this group is a notch down, maybe they are a step off the pace of our vintage teams. But I'm proud of them. They've done everything I've asked them to do. Why would I be angry at that? Why would Kirby Smart be angry at that? So I don't think it's losing a spark at all, man. I'll tell you this. I can't probably take everyone for a field trip in the building there, but I've been around Georgia for a little while. I haven't noticed the intensity drop a bit in that place. I would highly suggest if you get some feedback from staff meetings or team meetings, I don't think the intensity has waned there a whole lot. Now there's a shelf life. Guys aren't doing this forever. And so 11 years in, you know, maybe he's just entered into, like, a different gear. You never know if it's intentional. You never know if Kirby Smart hasn't gone through courses or gotten feedback or advice and maybe consciously tried to change a little bit of the way he carries himself. But I can promise you, under the hood, it's still the exact same as it's always been. Just maybe the exterior looks a little bit different. It's been a good mailbag. We're not done yet, but it's been a good mailbag. And I just want to remind everyone, fanduel, of course, the exclusive odds provider of the show. But also, if you want to submit questions, comments, whatever, to the show, you could do it by responding on Twitter. 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Three of them made it last year. The SEC got five in and people thought they had too many in. And so like even a conference having five teams in was viewed as really pushing the limit. You're saying they're going to get six in. So think about what this requires. First off, it requires six Big Ten teams to be viable. So you got to think Oregon's in and Indiana's in and Ohio state and then USC's gotta be good, Michigan's gotta be good, Penn State or Iowa or like Illinois or maybe UCLA comes out of nowhere. All that's gotta happen and I think all of them need to be 10 and 2 or better probably. And then you gotta have I think a perfect storm in the sec. And in the sec the perfect storm would be, let's say Georgia or Texas are really good. They separate. They just distance themselves from the pack. So there's like an 111 or 12 team and they win the SEC. So they're in and then the rest of the conference is just a mess and it's a bunch of nine and Three, eight and four teams at the second level. You need that to happen. Probably need Notre Dame to be out of the mix. It would greatly help if Notre Dame was out of the mix. Only one G5 team. You can't have two G5 teams. And you need the ACC and the Big 12 to each be one bid leagues. If all that happens, this prediction hits all. That's not going to happen. I don't think so. That's a nine and a half on the boldness scale. Next up, Montevallo, Alabama. That's where Bartos best resides. And he said the SEC championship will not feature Alabama. It will not feature Georgia. It will not feature Texas. That is Georgia with the best odds. Texas right behind them. They have the same odds. So Texas and Georgia are tied as number one teams to win the SEC this year at FanDuel. Bama's fifth. So none of those three can even be in the game. I make that a nine and a quarter. I make that a 9.25. So this does leave LSU as a possibility. But you got to have two of these teams. So LSU versus A&M or A&M versus Oklahoma or like Ole Miss versus Tennessee or Florida versus LSU. You got to have those teams come through. A and M may very well do it. LSU may very well do it. If that happens, then, boom, that's it. It just hit. But Bama and Georgia have one or the other. Been in and won the SEC championship every year since 2011. Except one. Right, Jesse? Only one year since 2011 or 12 or whenever it was. And so that's that LSU 2019 year. That's the only year. So they've been mainstays. And you would think if someone knocks them off, maybe it's Texas. But for both of them to miss out on the game entirely and Texas to not be there, that's bold. It's bold enough. It's bold enough. Not as bold as the next one, though. This next one from Andrew in Louisville, Kentucky. Two teams from the ACC will make the playoffs and advance to the semifinals. I'm trying to think what I would have made this if he just said two ACC teams make the playoff. It wouldn't have been a 9.5. This is a 9.5. Two ACC teams making the playoff and making it to the semifinal. So take Miami and just remove them. Let's just assume Miami wins the whole thing this year. Whatever. Miami aside, they're easy to buy into. Where's my other team? Where's my other team from the acc? That is not only Good enough to make the playoff, which means they got to have one of the best resumes in the country. Then they got to win at least one game, if not two games once they make the playoff. So is it going to be Louisville? Is Clemson going to going to resurrect themselves? Is SMU going to be the team to make it and win games? I can't see it. I'm making that a nine and a half. And lastly, I struggled with this rating a little bit. Ronan Montana, Finn's fan said it'll be back to back seasons of the Heisman winner also winning the national championship. And he's talking about C.J. carr and Notre Dame. So C.J. carr wins the Heisman. Notre Dame was the national title. I'm only going to make that a nine. I changed my mind, Jesse. Down from 9.25. I'm only going to make it a nine. So it's bold. But here's the problem with it. C.J. carr is the favorite to win the Heisman right now at FanDuel. Notre Dame has the second best odds in the country to win the title. So independently, neither one of these is overly bold. And even though you're like grouping them together, there is a lot of correlation here. It happened last year. Fernando Mendoza won the Heisman and because Indiana had a Heisman Trophy winner at quarterback, they were good enough to go on and win the title. That was a key contributing factor, obviously. So if CJ Carr is the real deal, good enough to win the Heisman, obviously it means Notre Dame's really good this year. And if Notre Dame's really good this year, I got a really good shot to win the title. How many four quarter games is CJ Carr going to play though? So if you look at Notre Dame schedule, one of the positives is it's a really workable schedule. But that probably means they win a bunch of games convincingly, which means C.J. carr's not in the game in the fourth quarter a whole bunch. Which means he may not rack up the numbers that you need to win the Heisman. So I'm going to put a nine on it. I thought about nine and a quarter. I put a nine on it. Good mailbag today. Good solid mailbag. Now listen, we are about to head out of town right now actually. Big storm chasing day. We'll probably be in either Illinois or Indiana tomorrow. We will live stream it. You want to look up storm chaser Brad Arnold's page, YouTube channel and we'll be active, very active tomorrow. Very dangerous day, which of course, means we have to head towards it, so appreciate you guys so much. Make sure you subscribe to the channel for direct subscribers. Bradley producing Jesse I'm Josh Pate. 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Date: June 17, 2026
Host: Josh Pate (iHeartPodcasts)
Josh Pate delivers a jam-packed mid-June episode, kicking off with his in-depth analysis of the Brendan Sorsby/Texas Tech fallout, then responding to a massive mailbag packed with listener questions and comments. The show covers: the Sorsby situation, reflection on Texas Tech and Cody Campbell, changing attitudes towards recruiting, public villains for 2026, regional differences in college football passion, underrated aspects of the sport, team and coach storylines, and bold predictions for the upcoming season. The tone combines passionate analysis, humor, and Pate’s frank, big-picture perspective.
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On college football priorities:
“Winning football games is where it overlaps. That's the most important thing. And actions flow downstream of that goal.” ([08:05])
On media hype and bust narratives:
“No one in our business ever says I'm the bust. That's why I throw the clown nose on when I go 0-for-5 picking Indiana games. I'm the bust.” ([33:40])
On stadium character vs. shiny pro venues:
“That stuff exists in college and it does not exist in the pro game because all the pro stadiums are either new or brand new. None of them are all that old.” ([39:53])
On changing the college football calendar:
“This is one area where we can go back in time. Not fully, but we can go back to the way it used to be.” ([17:51])
Timestamps: [70:52] – [78:49]
| Topic | Timestamp | Summary/Insight | |-------------------------------------------|--------------|-------------------------------------------------------------| | Sorsby-Texas Tech Fallout | 02:23–10:20 | Fairness, public perception, Tech’s repercussions | | Recruiting Fatigue/Industry Change | 11:27–19:53 | Churn, NIL, lack of investment, hope for reforms | | 'Villains' of 2026 | 23:17–27:46 | Texas Tech, Texas, Lane Kiffin, Greg Sankey | | Northeast College Football Dilemma | 27:47–30:18 | No strong brands, high school base, pro-sports dominance | | Arch Manning vs Keelan Russell Coverage | 30:19–33:50 | Hype due to name, not rating; media trends | | Underrated Sport Aspects | 33:51–40:30 | Fridays, upsets, road trips, stadium quirks | | Oregon Playoff Outlook | 40:32–45:12 | Reasons for optimism, playoff baggage, Lanning’s growth | | Nebraska Bowl Prospects | 49:13–51:42 | Confident in over 6.5 wins, optimism for year ahead | | Media Legacies | 51:43–54:28 | Praising Dan Patrick, old vs. new media debates | | Regular vs. Postseason Prioritization | 57:26–61:19 | Why season is under-loved, show philosophy | | Kirby Smart’s “Spark” | 61:20–66:26 | No signs of lost intensity, champion’s new psychology | | Bold Predictions | 70:52–78:49 | High-risk, high-reward calls for playoff, Heisman, title |
Josh Pate’s mailbag delivers a whirlwind tour of today’s hottest college football storylines and underlying cultural shifts, all grounded in candid, jargon-free analysis and a commitment to core sport values. With a balance of optimism and realism, he covers the Sorsby story, the evolving recruiting culture, regional eccentricities, media narratives, and the unquantifiable magic of college football culture—while never pulling punches or indulging in empty hype.
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