Week 12 Upset Alerts + CFP Chaos Scenarios & Cole Cubelic Joins

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Josh Pate's College Football Show

Week 12 Upset Alerts + CFP Chaos Scenarios & Cole Cubelic Joins

Release Date: November 14, 2025
Host: Josh Pate (iHeartPodcasts)
Guest: Cole Cubelic

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Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into Week 12's possible upsets, College Football Playoff chaos scenarios, and the shifting landscape of college football’s playoff picture. Host Josh Pate provides insider intel, nuanced game previews, and “concern meter” rankings for potential upsets, before debating national title contenders and officiating reform with guest Cole Cubelic. The mailbag also features questions about LSU’s turnaround and dark horse championship teams.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Setting the Scene: November Heat and Playoff Anxiety

• Josh opens from Nashville, highlighting the show's wide listenership and the channel's push to hit 500,000 YouTube subscribers.
• Sets the tone for a jam-packed show: “There's that moment when you've learned to swim, and therefore you can walk into the deep end... That's where we are right now” (01:55).

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2. Week 12 Upset Alerts (05:36)

Josh introduces his “upset alert concern meter” (1-10) for select games:

• Michigan at Northwestern @ Wrigley Field

  • Michigan favored by 11.5; upset concern: 6/10
  • “It’s just the kind of game where you find out how much your team's been paying attention to the noise.” (06:35)

• South Carolina at Texas A&M

  • South Carolina at 3-6 needing to win out; upset concern: 2/10
  • “There would have to be a lot of help from Texas A&M for this to happen.” (07:20)

• NC State vs. Miami

  • Miami a 15.5 point favorite; upset concern: 5/10
  • “I’ve already seen Miami lose a couple of games as a double-digit favorite this year.” (09:15)

• Florida at Ole Miss

  • Florida’s motivation in doubt; upset concern: 3/10
  • “I would have a hard time seeing Ole Miss overlook this... They’re just the better team.” (11:37)

• Utah at Baylor

  • Utah aiming for at-large playoff bid; upset concern: 5/10
  • “The model actually loves Baylor. I don't. I don't see it.” (13:10)

• TCU at BYU

  • Implied to be even teams; upset concern: 8.5/10
  • “Can BYU throw the ball? If so, they can win convincingly… It's a very dangerous game.” (14:46)

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3. Playoff Chaos Scenarios (20:04)

SEC Collapse Possibility

• Josh spotlights the pundit scramble over how many SEC teams could make the playoff.
• Offers a contrarian “contender collapse” scenario:
  • “It’s tough for me to envision A&M not making the playoff… but outside of that, there’s easily a path where Bama falls out, or Georgia falls out, or Texas falls out...” (22:35)

Big Ten Flood Conundrum

• Imagines a scenario where five Big Ten teams could be playoff contenders if certain outcomes (USC/Michigan/Oregon/Ohio State/Indiana) break right.
  • “If Michigan beats Ohio State... Michigan’s got the best win in the country at the very end of the year... All of a sudden, the Big Ten will have five playoff caliber teams.” (25:00)

ACC Doomsday Scenario

• Posits two G5 teams making the playoff, leaving the ACC shut out if, for instance, Duke wins the conference with 4 losses.
  • “Selection Sunday where a Power 4 conference is told, ‘You’re not in at all’…that is chaos.” (28:23, 31:28)

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4. Mailbag Highlights

LSU’s Turnaround (37:31)

• Q: How fast could LSU bounce back under a new coach?
• Josh underscores the instability surrounding the LSU search and behind-the-scenes issues:
  • “The public spectacle of the lawsuit… it’s a turn off for prospective candidates. Guys, I'm not guessing on that stuff. I'm right on it.” (38:01)
  • Lane Kiffin is likely to be considered, but structural and alignment issues must be overcome.
• “This is LSU—when it's operating functionally, it is among the best, if not the best, jobs in college football.” (41:56)

Dark Horse National Champions (44:58)

• Josh analyzes true playoff threat depth if Ohio State appears vulnerable:
  • Up to nine teams have a real shot: “We got like 10 teams that could win the whole thing... That is crazy.” (45:52)
• Others, like USC and Miami, remain “just on the outside looking in.”

Officiating Reform Proposal (53:20)

• Josh lays out a commissioner-style plan:
  • Nationalize officiating—no conference-specific referees.
  • Transparency—make the crew chief available to media postgame.
  • Standardization—uniform rules and enforcement.
  • Meritocracy in hiring.
  • “It’s so stupid… It's the stupidest problem to have. It's so easily preventable.” (55:41)

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5. Betting Picks & Best Bets (59:24)

• Ramen Noodle Express Picks:
  • Coastal Carolina +2.5
  • Alabama -5.5
  • UAB +18.5
  • Florida Atlantic +17.5 (at Tulane)
  • More selections to come on “Friday night lines.”

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6. Interview with Cole Cubelic (61:40)

Playoff Title Contender Bubble

• Hypothetical: If Ohio State is vulnerable, who can really win it all?

• Both Josh and Cole construct their “championship bubbles” (minimizing risk of leaving out the eventual champ):

  Cole’s Bubble: Indiana, Texas A&M, Alabama, Georgia, Texas Tech, Ole Miss, Oregon, Notre Dame, Oklahoma

  • Notably leaves Texas, USC, Utah, Miami out due to inconsistency or reliance on vulnerable offensive schemes.
  • “The offense has been too inconsistent [for Texas]. I don't know if you can generate those explosives...” (68:48)

  Josh’s Bubble: Leaves out Oklahoma, Texas Tech; has Texas instead.

• Fun banter as they compare lists and discuss their justification for bubble inclusions.

Game Previews: Alabama vs Oklahoma (74:09)

• Josh predicts Alabama will win and cover (-5.5), citing passing attack strengths and defensive opportunism.
  • “I actually think they’re going to win the game by 10 or more.” (75:54)
• Cole disagrees it’ll be a big margin, emphasizes Alabama’s O-Line pass protection and Oklahoma’s defensive front.
  • “There are a lot of things that could be problematic for Alabama in this game…” (75:54)
• Discussion also touches on Oklahoma QB John Mateer’s unique release and the threat of batted passes.

Texas vs Georgia Preview (87:19)

• Both analyze program identity: Georgia is a known and hard-nosed commodity, Texas must prove they have developed comparable “grit and physicality.”

  • “Will Texas match the grit, the physicality? Are they hard enough to be able to go out and win this game? Ultimately, I think that's what it comes down to.” (89:17)

  • Cole gives Georgia the edge due to program consistency and pressure scheme precision.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Josh Pate sets the tone:
  “There's that moment when you've learned to swim… That’s where we are right now.” – [01:55]

• On the SEC contender collapse:
  “Wouldn’t be great for business in some corners, but it certainly could [happen].” – [22:35]

• On Big Ten chaos:
  “At the very least, there’s a 10-2 Michigan sitting there… The Big Ten will all of a sudden have five playoff caliber teams.” – [25:00]

• On the officiating fix:
  “It is the dumbest thing in the world to me that we have conference officials… It should be a college football crew.” – [54:14]

• Cole Cubelic on Texas’ inconsistency:
  “The offense has been too inconsistent. I don’t know if you’re going to be able to generate these explosives…” – [68:48]

• On Georgia’s defensive approach:
  “There is less selfishness and more precision with the way Georgia runs their pressures than almost any other team in college football.” – Cole Cubelic [93:48]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Episode Kickoff & Theme: 01:55
• Week 12 Upset Alerts: 05:36 – 15:55
• Playoff Chaos Scenarios (SEC, Big Ten, ACC): 20:04 – 31:28
• LSU Coaching Q&A: 37:31
• Dark Horse Champion Discussion: 44:58
• Officiating Reform: 53:20
• Best Bets (Ramen Noodle Express): 59:24
• Cole Cubelic Segment Begins: 61:40
• Championship Bubble Debate: 65:09 – 71:32
• Alabama vs Oklahoma: 74:09 – 84:47
• Texas vs Georgia: 87:19 – 89:17
• Georgia Pass Rush Discussion: 93:48
• Show Closing Thoughts: 98:27 – end

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Summary Takeaways

• This episode is a must-listen for college football fans tracking playoff drama, late-season upsets, and future program direction. Josh Pate’s analytical approach, measured tone, and willingness to zag from mainstream narratives keeps things substantive and highly engaging. Cole Cubelic's film study and tactical insights add depth, especially on playoff team profiles and marquee matchups.

No low-hanging fruit, no hot takes—just essential college football information, delivered with energy and clarity.

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I think we all need to just be careful and take one step back. There's that moment when you've learned to swim, and therefore you can walk into the deep end where your feet no longer touch the bottom of the pool anymore. And you're like, oh, I'm swimming. That's where we are right now. We just gotta make sure we can swim. So in college football terms, in practical worldview terms, that means you better know what you're talking about before you run that mouth too much to your friends. And I'm talking to me just as much as I'm talking to you guys. Let me give you an example. Well, first, let me tell you It's Thursday, November 13th, the year of our Lord 2025. Let me tell you, we're jam packed. Let me tell you why. Atop an anxious downtown Nashville, Tennessee, I just chugged an entire mug of coffee right before we came on air. So I'm good. I'm great. I'm wonderful. Ignore me scratching my neck, but the warning I'm trying to give is for example, I was walking through the office today and I look up on the screen and I see a lower third and there is a network talking about whether the SEC should get half a dozen teams into the playoff. And I thought to myself, self, are you partially responsible for this kind of rhetoric? Maybe. So we're going to do our best to fire hose it. We're going to put out the fire. We didn't start the fire. We're going to put out the fire tonight because I think I've identified some disaster scenarios for the sec. Those are always popular, Jesse. Right. Those always do. Good traffic SEC and poison, that's our thumbnail. So we're gonna do that. Of course it's Thursday. We're gonna do upset alerts. We're gonna have Cole Kublick on a little bit later. We're gonna talk about the aforementioned chaos scenarios. That's just one. I've got more. Got some stuff on lsu. We're gonna open the mailbag. It could become a constant. On Thursday we're gonna open the mailbag. First time I think we've done it all year. So yeah, we got a lot to discuss. And did you know they're watching us in Montgomery, Alabama. Bradley does. He hails from Montgomery, Alabama. Salem, Oregon. Muncie, Indiana. Charleston, South Carolina. They're tuned in. We are right around 480,000 subs on the YouTube channel, which means we got 20k more to go before the biggest party we've ever had here. I don't, we've never had a party so I don't really know any party would be our biggest party. We got video the other night. I'm gonna save it for like the Sunday show to play for you of a guy parked in his parents driveway and he recorded himself getting out of the car walking into his parents house after they had already gone to bed. Respectful, classy, picks up their phones and subscribes to the channel. It's wholesome, it's great content, it's legal I think in most states and it helps us get closer to 500k. And by the way, the, that should only be done under the safest of precautions but it also should only be done if you've already subscribed to the channel. So make sure you have. I think we're, we're, we're about to start the upset alert segment but I also think we're going to go late on Friday night lines tomorrow night. So our normal time, I'll make sure, you know, tomorrow make sure. You're following on Twitter and Instagram at Josh Patecfb. So I would, I'd probably say like either halftime of the late games or after the early games are over, it'll be something like that. But in the meantime, let's talk about games. Upset alerts week 12 edition. We like to, on Thursdays around here, go over some games presented by Flex Power generated by Flex Power. Best generators in the business. My flexpower.com if you're interested. And we like to circle some games that, you know, maybe we haven't picked the upset, but we're concerned. Maybe on a scale of 1 to 10, we're concerned, how concerned would we be? For example, Michigan's playing Northwestern at Wrigley Field.

I've never been to Wrigley Field. I don't know how it plays for a football game. I just know Michigan's favored by 11 and a half in this game and I'm going to put my upset alert concern at about a 6 because I've, I've been following Michigan pretty closely and we have made some money this year betting Michigan. Like in the Purdue game, for example, they were favored by way too many points. They won and so they're favored by 11 and a half here. Could they lose outright? Sure they could. No. Justice Haynes, 11am kickoff Northwestern run defense kind of leaky, but it's kind of a condensed game as well. So if you come out of the bi week and you're starting off a little slow like we saw Alabama do last week. Yeah, it could be that kind of game. Good defenses here though, like Northwestern. Not a bad team, not a bad team this year. They've pushed some folks, they beat some folks. It's just the kind of game where you find out how much your team's been paying attention to the noise. The noise being some people are starting to wake up to the idea that Michigan is still in the running for a playoff spot. Of course they are. They're still in the running for the Big Ten championship. But now in November is when you start to see the horizon and you can see that Ohio State logo on the horizon and everyone starts assuming you'll just still be a 10 and 2 team when you get there. Make sure you're still a A2 loss team when you get there. That is well within your control. I'm putting a six on this because I think Northwestern can make games ugly and Michigan should. But will they? That's kind of my vibe on this one. Next up, South Carolina goes to Texas A and M this Saturday. You know what South Carolina's record is right now? They're sitting there at three and six. They got three games left. By our math, they got to win them all if they want to make a bowl game. I've got a piece of paper in front of me. You hear that? That's the sound of nothing. Nothing on this piece of paper indicates that South Carolina is getting ready to spring an upset. We just watched A and M come out of their buy. They went on the road last week. They won in pretty convincing fashion. Look, Lenora Sellers could have a Superman game here and A and M still win. Just kind of win closer, you know, maybe not cover, but still win A and M's ground game against the number 82 run defense in the country. I tried, guys. I have a very hard time. I'm going to put a 2 on it. Just because South Carolina has good athletes on the field, technically anything can happen. This would be tough. There would have to be a lot of help given to South Carolina by Texas A and M for this to happen. Who knows, Maybe it's a crazy minus four turnover game and it goes down to the final minutes, but there's a lot that has to go right. So I'm going to put a 2 on it and we'll just monitor it. Next up, this one I've got a little more concerned about. It's NC State versus Miami now. Miami's a 15 1/2 point favorite. Miami's got totally new life. You thought maybe when they were headed home from Dallas, they just lost their second game to smu. They may be out of the playoff picture. Then the rankings come out and they were 18th and you're like, wow, they don't really have any big time opponents left either. How are they going to climb all the way up? Well, they climbed three spots last week and we did the little exercise on Tuesday where we showed you everyone who's ahead of Miami and the hurdles they still have to clear. There's no doubt that some of the shrubbery will get cleared ahead of Miami as long as they stay on the path of 10 and 2. As long as they can do that, then there will be a path for them. Well, this is the first of their three remaining hurdles. It's their last home game. They go on the road to Virginia Tech next week. They go to at Pitt the week after that.

So this profile similar to the SMU game, I think for Miami. North Carolina State's got the second worst pass defense in the country. SMU's got the worst so remember we looked at that game and we said Carson Beck, it's going to be his game against SMU because the plays are there to be made in the secondary. You got to make them. Well, they didn't make enough of them and they ended up with a costly turnover down to the goal line. So again, you should be able to throw the ball effectively here. NC State's got a top 25 passing offense. Can they threaten Miami secondary? It's not going to be a situation where you get up, you know, like 17 to 6 and just kind of wait it out. NC State can score like they can. They possess the capability to do that. So you need offensive consistency, you need rhythm, you need good effectiveness in your passing game. Will you get that? Their run defense at NC State has been decent. So Miami probably needs to throw the ball to win this game for that reason because of some of the inconsistency that's been there. I'm going to put a five on this. I have already seen Miami lose what, a couple of games as a double digit favorite this year so that it just causes extra 15 and a half there. It doesn't make me worry about this game any less than I otherwise would have. I'm going to, I'm going to put a five on it now. If they win 42 to three then I start buying into the hype again. Florida at Ole Miss got some buddies going to this game. They circled it early in the year, in the summer even and they said that's the one. We've never been to the Grove. That's the one. That one's really going to pop off Florida. Napier got lag way back, man. One of the most experienced teams. Really talented. Nope. As it turns out. Nope. Is Florida motivated or are they dead? Cause we saw him motivated against Georgia and we saw him dead against Kentucky. I lean towards the latter. I think it was a tap out moment last week. They were a no show. It's the second leg of back to back road games here. Ole Miss has got everything in the world to play for. Also Ole Miss has got a revenge spot on their hands here. They know if they win, they're in. It's not officially labeled that. Nobody from the committee hit us up and told us that. But Ole Miss, if they win this game, they've got Mississippi State left. That's it.

The worst they could be is 10 and 2. If they win this game and I think they're going to. I'm going to put a three on it because of the athletic profile that Florida has, but they're banged up. They got guys that are probably out for the rest of the year. I just would have a hard time seeing Ole Miss overlook this and they're just. They're the better team. And Lane Kiffin, I don't know which of these teams he's going to be the head coach for next year, but I know he's the head coach at Ole Miss right now and that will matter. So give me a three on the upside alert. Concern meter. Utah at Baylor. Told you. Utah's got a sneaky tough road the rest of the way. Baylor, Kansas State and Kansas are not ranked in the top 25, but we've got them power rated all in the top 35. So not elite opponents, but not bad opponents. Utah's trying to get one of those at large spots. They got an elite pass defense and that's going to be how Baylor tries to beat them. Sawyer Robinson, that Baylor passing attack, that's how they have to win. They don't run the ball great. That, ironically, is how you would challenge Utah. You would challenge them that way, but you can't if you can't run the ball. It's like the total inverse of how we describe the Alabama, Oklahoma game, where that is strength on weakness. Well, we got weakness on weakness here, so I don't know that Baylor can fully take advantage of what's there maybe to be taken advantage of. And Baylor cannot stop the run, I don't think effectively enough against Utah. And I think Utah can run it all night. I'll put a five on it. The. The model actually loves Baylor. I don't. I don't see it. I think Utah understands maybe, just maybe, that door is still cracked open. Now I've got him power rated as the best team in the Big 12 right now. Controversial, I know, but either way, if you agree with that or not, they're still a good team. So I'm going to put a five on it and then the last one will stay in that conference. Nobody is talking about this. Nobody is talking about byu. Oh, they're talking about them. They're just not talking about who they play. This week TCU is at Brigham Young. This week at Brigham Young with home field advantage factored in, BYU is a 3 1/2 point favorite. That's basically implying they're equal on a neutral field. TCU. Two of TCU's three losses are by a field goal. Very close losses. They just lost to Iowa State, I believe last week. They've got a top 10 passing offense. TCU decent run defense. It may be the same script as last week. You get a lead on Brigham Young and force him to try and throw the ball to catch up. TCU's got the 104th ranked pass defense in the country. So if Brigham Young can throw the ball, they can win this game and win it convincingly. Can they do it? Is the question. Can they do it? I think it's a very dangerous game. So I'm gonna put an eight and a half on this. I mean, it's a very, it's implied neutral field, equal team. So yes, I'm gonna put an eight and a half on it. And everybody's looking at Brigham Young like, oh, man, could they get back to Dallas? Could they get back to the Big 12 championship game? Dude, they got to win this week. And then they got Cincinnati coming up. I believe they got to win this week. So I'm going to put an eight and a half on that one. We will be in Athens, Georgia for Texas. Georgia. We're headed down there tomorrow, actually, courtesy of our friends at Kwik Trip fueling us every step of the way. We appreciate them so much. We're actually going to hang out with them. They are doing an activation down there right out front, I believe, of the Miller Learning Center. And they're going to have autographs. Not by me, by actual people who played at the University of Georgia. Free Coke floats. Not to be confused with the movie Hope floats. They could show it for all I know. They haven't told me they're going to do that. Quick reminder, our best selling fall Don't Lie shirt to date was last week. It was the Lubbock T shirt. The Athens T shirt is right on its heels right now and it's available for about two more days through Saturday and then it's gone forever. I can't even get it after that. I probably could, but I shouldn't be able to. So paid statematerial.com right now and it'll be probably right there on the front page. You can get it there.

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All right, let's move on.

Do you want chaos? Do you want playoff chaos? Well, there are several ways this could happen. Just when that playoff picture starts to look nice and neat and tidy, I come to you with this. Everyone out there seems to be talking about how many teams the SEC could get in the playoff. We did it last week and I said, hey, there's a chance. There are as many as seven SEC teams that finish the season with two or fewer losses. It's not that hard to picture. Oklahoma goes undefeated the rest of the way. Texas goes undefeated. Vandy wins out. You probably have A and M, Bama, Georgia, Ole Miss, Texas, ou, Vandy. That's seven SEC teams that finish with two losses or fewer. Everyone's having fun with that. But you know what I'd like to do? While everyone else is zigging? I'd like to zag here for just a second. What about the SEC.

Contender collapse conundrum?

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Tough.

[Josh Pate]

But we powered through it there because no one's talking about that, it seems. You know, Alabama plays Oklahoma this week. They could lose the game. Do you know the position that would put Alabama in? That would make them 9 and 2 after they play Eastern Illinois next week. Going to Auburn with their playoff lives on the line, needing to win the Iron Bowl. I don't need to tell Bama fans what it's like to have anything of consequence on the line going to Jordan Hare Stadium.

No one's mind is even going there. Everyone's got Bama penciled in to Atlanta first round bye. Maybe. Or maybe they don't make the playoff. That's in the cards. Georgia plays Texas day after tomorrow. They could lose the game. They could play Georgia Tech and lose Georgia. 3 loss, team out, not in the playoff. It's right there. Like that game against Georgia Tech. I know it says at Georgia Tech, it's really in Mercedes Benz Stadium because sadly, Georgia Tech took a paycheck in exchange for moving the game. I'm not going to fault anyone. I just hate that it exists. But those are both losable games. Georgia could be out. They could be done just like that. What about Texas? It's a lot easier to see Texas being out. They're a six and a half point dog against Georgia Saturday. They also play Arkansas. They play Texas A and M. It's still a really tough road for Texas. Texas could easily be out. Oh, you could lose to Bama this weekend. Or lose to Missouri or lose to lsu. They could easily be out. Vanderbilt plays Kentucky and then goes to Tennessee. One more loss there, they're done. My point there is.

It'S tough for me to envision A and M not making the playoff. It's tough for me to envision Ole Miss not making the playoffs. But outside of that, there's easily a path where Bama falls out or Georgia falls out, or Texas falls out, or Oklahoma falls out, or Vandy falls out, or a combination of all of them fall out. Yeah, that can happen. And don't let the aggregation sites tell you it can't. Don't let press conferences tell you it can't. It. It most certainly can. Wouldn't be great for business in some corners of this country, but it certainly could. Now, on a related note, as we look to the SEC's neighbors to the north, the Big Ten, what about what we are calling the Big Ten flood conundrum? Not the Great Flood, just a normal garden variety figurative flood. Here, follow me on this. I know some of you are visual learners. I am too, especially if you're on podcasts. I'm going to walk you through it. It's actually not that complicated. All right, Right now, what is everyone thinking about the Big Ten? They're thinking Ohio State's in, Indiana's in, Oregon going to be in. So they'll have three teams. You know, maybe, maybe they get a fourth team. That's kind of where the general national consensus is, I've thought.

All right, well, let's just tinker with it a little bit. Immunity. Let's just move some things around. Let's say USC wins out. What does that include? Well, that Includes them beating Iowa. It includes them going to Oregon and winning next week. And it includes them beating UCLA. USC finishes 10 and 2. They may even have found their way into the Big Ten championship game. But at worst, they're a 10 2, almost certain to be an at large playoff team. What if Michigan wins out? That means they beat Northwestern, they beat Maryland, and they beat Ohio State at the end of the year. And before you say it's improbable, I've said it the last four years and been wrong. So I'm going to wait. I'm not going to be that guy again. Michigan would be 10 and 2. Now here's what you really need to remember. Michigan's got one conference loss. So does, so does that point Ohio State. If Ohio State loses to Michigan, they've both got one conference loss. Michigan's got the tiebreaker. If Indiana's in Indianapolis awaiting their opponent, Michigan would get the nod over Ohio State. The only question at that point would be how does USC factor into that? And I don't even know the Big Ten tiebreaker scenario. But at the very worst, there's a 10, 2. Michigan sitting there. They're going to the playoff. If they beat Ohio State, they've got the best win in the country at the very end of the year. 10 and 2. Michigan's going to the playoff. If Oregon just loses to USC, but otherwise they win out Oregon's 10 and 2. That's it. That's all I have to say. Okay, so I just need a couple of things to happen that are well within the realm of possibility. And the Big Ten will all of a sudden have five playoff caliber teams. Ohio State would be there, Indiana would be there. Michigan, Oregon, usc, they're all there. And what if the perfect combination happens? What if after all the talk over the past month of how many teams the SEC could get in, half dozen or more maybe. And after all the talk of could it just be Ohio State and Indiana and that's it? What if the Big Ten has more playoff teams than the sec?

And then we haven't even talked about the ACC doomsday scenario. Well, actually we did. We talked about it Tuesday night. The ACC doomsday scenario is just where the ACC does not get a playoff team in. What would happen in the ACC doomsday scenario? I'll lay it out for you again if you missed the Tuesday show. But what would happen is two G5 teams would make the playoff.

And since we're still so early in the playoff, what you've really seen is you've seen one version of the 12 team playoff. We've seen one year of it and then otherwise you've just seen projections and hypotheticals sketched on napkins and pizza boxes. You haven't really seen the real thing play out but once. So we really don't know what can and can't happen. For instance, there is a crowd out there that tells themselves G5 conference, not G5 power four conference champs will always have a way into the playoff. Most of America actually thinks Power 4 conference champs are guaranteed a playoff spot. They don't even know the rules. That is not the rule. That is not the way it's written at all. That's not the structure of the playoff. The structure is this. Remember this? It's five and seven. Seven at large spots, five spots reserved. Follow me here. For the highest ranked conference champions. It didn't say power four. It's just always been assumed that if you're taking five conference champs easily, the power four conference champs will be among the five highest ranked. They're even giving you wiggle room there. Like you don't even need to be top four. A G5 conference champ could even be ahead of you. But surely two G5 conference champs would never be ahead of a Power Four conference champ. Well, I thought that too. Enter Duke. Duke right now has four losses. They're five and four, but they only have one loss in conference play. Now, it's still a little bit of a long shot, but Duke, if they beat Virginia and North Carolina and Wake Forest will go to Charlotte to play for the conference title. That probably play Georgia Tech. We'll see about that. And regardless of who they play, they'd be in Charlotte. If they win the game, they would be a 9 and 4 conference champion, a four loss team. And at that point, here's what we have to ask ourselves.

I'm almost certain the American Conference champ will be ranked higher than Duke. That may be Tulane. It may be South Florida. Either one of them would be ranked higher than Duke. Already we know that South Florida's ranked 25th in the committee poll, so we know where they're ranked. So the conference champ there is going to be in the 20 to 25 range they'd be in. Here's what we don't know. If James Madison runs the table, I think they play like Coastal Carolina. There it is. They play App State, they play Washington State and they play at Coastal Carolina. If they run the table, the question is, in this scenario, are they ranked higher than Duke? If they are, the ACC's conference champ is getting left out of the playoff. Now, I've heard some theories on what the playoff committee would do here. There is a theory out there. It's a little conspiratorial, which is fine. It's the playoff committee we're talking about, after all. There's a theory out there that if you watch the playoff committee rankings or you look at them, you'll notice they don't show you past 25. They show you 1 through 25. And if there's no G5 team in the top 25, they let you know who the highest ranked G5 team is. Now, in this case, there is a G5 team in the top 25. It's USF. We don't know where James Madison is ranked, but there are context clues. So it's not like we don't have any idea where JMU is ranked right now. The playoff committee rankings pretty closely mirror what the AP poll is. The AP poll has USF 25 as well. It has James Madison 24th. So either the playoff committee rankings wildly deviate when it comes to James Madison or James Madison's pretty comparable right now in resume to usf. And if that's the case and they both went out and they win their conference championships, they're not dropping. They're only going to elevate. So they would, I would assume, both be in the 20 to 25 range. At that point. You've got to ask yourself how highly would the committee put a 9 and 4 ACC champ? Duke, who has not played a murderer's Rova schedule at all and has lost to Tulane and UConn and got smoked by Illinois. So they did nothing out of conference. They didn't accomplish any. Anything out of conference, just happened to win their conference. That's the ACC doomsday scenario and the only hope there is. Maybe Miami grabbed in that large spot. But Miami could drop a game too. Like Pitt loses to Notre Dame this weekend and then beats Miami. Very, very conceivable is my point. So, man, those two G5 teams making it in, you know how angry and irate people would be? Can you imagine Selection Sunday where a Power 4 conference is told, you're not in at all, we're taking 12 teams and you're not, not even your conference champ is good enough to make it that.

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Let's move on. Got a lot still to get to. Kubelik in the on deck circle. He's just kind of warming up. Oh, he's got a donut on his bat. That's. That's adorable. I promised you guys I was going to answer some questions on the show and I'm going to answer some questions on the show. Matthew from Baton Rouge, Louisiana, hit us up. He said, how fast of a turnaround could LSU have if they hire the right coach Pretty quick. You gonna hire the right coach? I mean, before you hire the right coach, I gotta know how the operations working down there. I said the other night, and I took some criticism for it. The LSU search hasn't even had a chance to really get started because there's been a mess behind the scenes and the public spectacle of the lawsuit. I don't care who's suing who, by the way. That public spectacle is really ugly. It's a turn off for prospective candidates. Guys, I'm not guessing on that stuff. I'm right on it. I know what I'm talking about. I'm not just like spitting into the wind. Oh, I think I'll say this on the show tonight. So I am biased pro lsu. So if anyone wants them to get their act together, I do. But you don't need to run to the message board and trash me just because I said something you don't like. You don't like that what was said was true. You should not like me. I'm just telling you the truth. So let's say they get their act together. I'm very hopeful they will. Look at my fingers crossed. I'm very hopeful they will. If they do, then yes, they could get turned around really quickly. Lane Kiffin, I know you see a lot of reporting on him. I know that there's a lot of speculation and this and that.

Lane Kiffin, I think, will have an opportunity to have this job. That's what I think. I don't know that because no one from LSU has told me that, but I think he will.

You get enough tea leaves sent your way that I think he will. Don't know if he's going to take it or not. Don't even know if he finds it the most desirable of the options that are going to be on the table for him. Let's just see how Ole Miss also chooses to handle Lane in the coming days. Because, I mean, I've got my theories on how I would handle it if I were Keith Carter, the AD there, which matters about as much as any other words coming out of my mouth. But if I were an ad, I got to have an answer, man. I can't just sit here and twist in the wind. So that matters how LSU views Lane. Matters how Lane views LSU matters. But whether it's him, whether it's Freeman, if you could get Freeman, that would be awesome. Or whether it would be John Sumrall or whoever it would be that's desirable enough to you, just remember the rules here. The rules are, this is lsu, when it's operating functionally, it is among the best, if not the best, jobs in college football. I believe that. And regardless of whether you believe it, believe me when I tell you many of the names on that list believe it, and many names that aren't on that list believe it. Like, even guys who aren't interested in coaching in college would tell you, if I was interested in coaching in college, that's the job I'd want. So we don't have to. We don't have to doubt whether it's an unequivocal upgrade from the place most guys are at. If all the alignment is there, that's the only obstacle here. The only obstacle is in this day and age, in the modern day and age, it's not nearly as common sense a move to take the LSU job for guys that are in different positions than it used to be. Used to be, you'd crawl over broken glass to go from having a job at Ole Miss to having a job at LSU or anywhere else. Now, it's got to be an unequivocal upgrade. And if you don't have that alignment, there's all this infighting. Perceptionally or in reality, if the political scene looks like it's a mess and you're the least bit worried about how it's going to play out down there. Unlike years past where you may bite the bullet on all that because of the resources LSU offers you in return, you probably got pretty good resources right now. If you're good enough for them to be offering you the job, you're probably at a place that you got pretty good resources at right now. So it's got to be an unequivocal upgrade if it is that if it has its affairs in order. Yes, yes, they can get that thing turned around. The other question I've had about this is, number one, it's all about the staff you bring in with you. That's with any head coach. I don't care who it is. I'm caring more about the staff than even I am the head coach. And then number two, there are some people already in the building down there that are among the best in the world at what they do. You could be talking about Blake Baker, that's the defensive coordinator. You could be talking about Austin Thomas, who's the general manager. There are a lot of people in that building that any coach would be very blessed to have working alongside him. But that's not always the way it works. Like, I've watched many coaching changes. I watched when Brian Kelly came into lsu and quite frankly, he flushed some people in that building just for the sake of flushing them. And it was, I thought, handled very poorly. And since then, a lot of people have complained about it. But I mean, when you come in the building, there are some good people who are told to look elsewhere sometimes, and that's fully the prerogative of the future head coach. I just think the guy who walks in at Florida is going to have it the same way. There are some really, really high level, superstar type people at Florida in their particular role that you might be best to just keep around. Debord did this some at Alabama, he brought in his. But he also kept some of those folks around. Why? Well, they were good enough to work for Nick Saban for a long time, so they're probably pretty good at what they do. Some of those people exist at lsu. So, yes, like if you get the right guy, the right staff, the proper alignment and the right people are kept on board and then meshed with the new people and new ideas that you bring in. Yes, they could be right back to where LSU is supposed to be. Absolutely, yes.

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Another good question here. I'm excited because I can take this question a couple of different directions. Benjamin from St. Hedwig, Texas, said, who are your dark horse national champion contenders this postseason? Normally, what this means is take a team that no one's talking about, like USC or someone like that, Utah. But I don't really have that. Benjamin, if you're talking about making the playoff, I could have those. I don't think this late in the season when you've watched this many teams play this many games, that there's a team that you could never imagine winning the whole thing that's going to really go on to win the whole thing. Here's what I do think we have two lanes right now when it comes to the playoff lane. Number one is a boring lane if you're not an Ohio State fan. And that is the lane where Ohio State really is as good as they look. Maybe they even get better. Maybe they even peak at the right time. If that's the case, Ohio State's going to win the national championship. Case closed. There are very few teams that can match up with them. Let's go the more exciting route in the interest of, you know, filling time here, creating something that's interesting to talk about. Let's say Ohio State is still pretty good, but let's say they show some vulnerability. And let's say you end up looking at them come playoff time and saying, hey, Ohio State's good. But, you know, I don't think of them the same way I thought of them a month ago. I've seen them bleed a little bit. I think they can be beaten. If we live in that world, which is the world I want to talk about here. How many teams could win the national championship? I'm going to talk to Kublick about this in a little while. I want to get his take on it. I'm going to put some higher stakes on Kublick than me. I'm just sitting here trying to have fun with this. But I went down the list right now. You see, the odds to win the whole thing are on the screen right here. But I also have just the rankings in front of me. All right, so in the world where Ohio State's vulnerable, let's walk this through. Ohio State can certainly win it all, no matter what. Indiana, though, in that world, could win it all. That's a crazy sentence. Indiana, yes, Is a contender to win the national championship. I know that we've gotten used to saying that this year. I'm still trying to get used to saying that, period. All right, so Ohio State and Indiana, Texas A and M could wait. Could they win the national title? Yes. Could Alabama win the national title? Yes. Could Georgia win the national title? Yes. So that's already five. There have been years in the past where we couldn't even get that deep. So we're already at 5. Oregon, especially, if they get healthy. Yes for me. Notre Dame is a yes for me. Texas is a yes for me. Ole Miss, especially if they got the right matchups and they got hot and we've seen Ohio State be vulnerable in this scenario, They're a yes for me. I think I counted nine that I would put in there. I gotta be honest with you. I skipped over Texas Tech. I still think if they have to win three games in a row and they're facing very, very equal, if not more talented rosters and the staffs are really good. And quarterbacks eventually have to win new games in the playoff. I don't know that I elevate Texas Tech to that level. So I leave them just outside my bubble. Good team, though. I'm leaving Oklahoma just outside that bubble. But here's the thing. If we watch them play Bama Saturday and Mattier rounds into form again like his pre injury self, Oklahoma's 100% in this bubble. So can I have the right to reserve or reserve the right to change? There are no rules. We're making up the rules as we go. The answer is yes. Got Notre Dame in there. 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I would get elected college football commissioner and then I would try and do three things. The first one is I would nationalize officiating. It is the dumbest thing in the world to me that we have conference officials, especially when we play out of conference games in college football, and we also assign these officials to bowl games and playoff games. And so why would I have Big 12 officiating crews officiating South Carolina versus Illinois in a bowl game? Makes no sense. If we're going to have it officiated, why not have a top to bottom universal standard, which I'll get into in a second. And therefore I don't have to worry about any kind of rumor here or there or any kind of stigma here or there. Well, that's an SEC crew. That's a Big 12 crew. It should be a college football crew. So that's the first thing I would do. And there's a lot that comes with that. I'll get to it in a second. Second thing, we're gonna be fully transparent with our officiating process. I'll tell you why. Because we're not guarding state secrets here. We haven't discovered a cure for an infectious disease that we're trying to keep out of the hands of a foreign government. It's not that secretive. We're fighting over a football and trying to score more points than the other team and people who are dressed like zebras are trying to make sure some rules of the game are enforced. It's utterly insane that we guard decisions and officiating in general behind this, like impenetrable curtain. Players have to answer to the media when they screw up. Coaches have to answer to the media when they screw up. But the officials screw up and they jet out of town. Why? Well, the excuse that you're given is, well, they're just part time. They're not even real full time employees. Make them full time employees. Then I'll pay each of them. Well, I'll find some money, we'll round up some money. I'll pay each of them six figures per year. And therefore it's fully rational and fair to hold them to the same standard that everybody else is held to. When you're paid to do a job and you don't do it like, if you don't like it, quit. Coaches have this happen to them. Players have this happen to them. You do a good job, you get praised, you do a bad job, you get lit up. But officials, it almost turns up the heat more when something bad happens. There's an egregious call or a no call, you don't even get an answer. The closest you get to it is you're a fan and you're on your message board on Monday and you're like an Auburn fan. And Justin Hokanson has a news story where he reports that he hears Auburn coaches got feedback from the SEC that they messed up a call according to sources like, what are we doing? So that's all scrapped and we are going to have the white hat on the crew. The crew chief made available to media after every college football game and he's going to have to answer for the calls they made. He's not a part time employee, he's a full time employee. He's got salary, he's got benefits, he's living a good life on Sunday through Friday. He's going to feel the heat on Saturday. And you may think, oh, that makes an official's life miserable. You know what it would actually do? It would make the bad ones lives miserable. The good ones would be fine. Here's what else would happen.

I know this may come as a shock, but sometimes people complain about calls that were right, but it's never properly articulated to you that the call was right because the entire functionality of the call was never explained to you. The officials made the call it may or may not have been articulated to the broadcast crew why the call was made. Therefore, the broadcast crew doesn't tell you on air why the call was made or what the call was. And then they're gone. They're in a van, police escort to the airport or the state line. As soon as the game's over and you don't hear anything, you know what it would mean for a white hat to stand in front of the media and get grilled about a missed call and then him be able to say, well, actually, here's what happened. Here was the procedure, here's what we saw, here's what the rule says, here's how we interpreted that, and here's how we applied it. It would actually tamp down a lot of the noise because a lot of these calls are actually right. Or at the very least, they're within the framework of judgment. At the very least or at the very worst, are there blown calls? Yeah, they're going to chase you anyway. You might as well not run. They chase far less. If you don't run, what's the worst that could happen? You stand there and say, we may have messed that one up. We know. We know you did. Anyway, it helps to hear it. Then. It helps to hear maybe how you're going to make sure it doesn't happen moving forward. And then the third thing, which when I talk to officials is the most important thing is I would standardize the rules. Like I said, I would have national officials instead of conference officials. And the reason that's so important is not just to remove the stigma of favoritism one conference to the other. It's to standardize the enforcement procedure. Right now, the biggest hidden mess in college football officiating is Conference USA officials are told to emphasize things that Big Ten officials are not. And Big Ten officials hold the flag on things that SEC officials throw the flag for. It's so stupid. It's the stupidest problem to have. It's so easily preventable. But you have these silos that exist. Cause it's kind of political and there's a lot of power in the vacuum. And so you've got these conference heads of officials that in some cases hate each other. So they have their own little fiefdoms. And the only authority they have in life is that they oversee officiating at the league level in the Sun Belt or the ACC or whatnot. I'm not even speaking about anyone in particular. I'm just randomly pulling conference names out of thin air. It's so Stupid that that exists. If you rebuilt college football today, you would never build it like that. So why does it exist like that right now if you would never build it like that? And then I would calibrate the hiring process where it's pure meritocracy. And I couldn't care less If I have 15 people, all from Macon, Georgia, if they're the best officials in the country, they're going to officiate and they're going to lead crews all across the country. You could be a guy, you could be a girl. If you're getting my calls right, you're going to be on the cruise. And the ones who screw up, I don't care what their last names are. I don't care what boxes they check, they're sitting at home. Cause it's too important. And there's too much of your money on the line. The Ramen Noodle Express's money is on the line. A coach's salary is on the line. A player's nil dollars are on the line. The integrity of the game is on the line. Sorry, Sorry. If you want to go work as an intern for the summer at your dad's construction company, some nepotism is okay there. We can't have it when it comes to officiating. And if that's a controversial stance, it's just a controversial show. Jesse, let's save the freight's origin for another night. I will tell you that Fanduel is the exclusive odds provider of the ship. We can confirm that. Sources are confirming that. There's a lot to see at Fanduel right now. If you go over there, I, for instance, went there earlier this week and I bet some money on Marcel Reed to win The Heisman. Bet $100. Why? I don't need $100. I already have $100. I say that line often. And every time I say it, someone hits me up and says, why do you keep saying that? It's a line from the office. I don't need $645. I already have $645, more or less. So I did bet Marcel Reed to win the Heisman. I love the odds. I got him at plus 850. You don't have to go do that. You could go, look, if you don't want to bet. If you do want to bet, you go bet Ty Simpson. You can go bet Julian Sayan. Jeremiah Love would been my next pick. I don't think, ironically, he's getting enough love. But you also got all the games there. You can go to FanDuel right now and two things. 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Now those are the three that we've been on so far. I'm about to add one here. Florida Atlantic is going to Tulane. They're getting a lot of points plus 17 and a half. There's a lot of noise about John Sumrall and all they need to do is win. They don't need to cover. So I think it may be about a field goal. Too much to give. FAU bad team but not terrible. So we'll take FAU plus 17 and a half. That's only four. I'll probably add another half dozen on Friday night lines tomorrow night. So make sure make sure you are following oshpatecfb on Twitter or Instagram. That is where Friday night lines will emanate from Athens, Georgia live.

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[Josh Pate]

And with that host of Cube show, founder of Cube show to be found on YouTube. Nearing 20,000 subscribers. Sidelined for SEC Network does a lot. Does some radio in Birmingham Monday through Friday with good friend of the program Greg McElroy. Which game do you have this weekend?

[Colson]

Mississippi State at Missouri. Tuesday Date Night podcast also.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah. Tuesday Date Night podcast also scaling. As they say in the industry.

[Colson]

I keep getting in trouble that you don't promote that. So it's not my. I'm just trying to make the wife happy. That's it.

[Josh Pate]

I saw the missed call log. Tuesday Date Night Podcast is actually the first product that you put out that I listen to every week. So I'm well aware of Tuesday Date Night Podcast. I am in fact being pressured to emulate Tuesday Date Night Podcast not entitled but in concept with someone in my apartment hold. And I don't want to be specific and name names as to who, but there is someone who wants me to traffic in that concept. So will I be.

[Colson]

Would be. Podcast with a puppy would be really hard. I don't even know why you would consider that.

[Odoo Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Josh Pate]

POD with a pot mainly for the acronym.

[Colson]

So if you. Hold on, if you listen, let me ask.

Sleep sheets tucked in, mattress under feet or feet out of sheets at night?

[Josh Pate]

Feet very much out of sheets. It's the first task, no matter what the temperature. Yeah. No, I don't, I don't care. It's a big fight. It's a big point of contention to me. That's how you gauge the quality of a hotel. People rate hotels 3 star, 4 star, 5 star based on cleanliness, based on whether or not you get a continental breakfast and all this other stuff. And I'm like, how hard is it to remove the sheets from being tucked? Cuz like some of those maids tuck those sheets all the way to the other end of the earth and it's, it's.

[Colson]

Yeah. Well, my wife has a militant sheet tuck and I need my sheets under my feet at night. So that's a, that's a. Every evening I'm almost tearing the acl, kicking the sheets up and she's just like, what are you doing? Just let it go. I'm like, I got to get them under.

[Josh Pate]

If you've ever, if you've ever even mildly hurt yourself doing something that is in line with adjusting sheets It's a bad feeling. It's really, really a sledgehammer to the pride. But then you realize, I'm not arguing about this. This is a non negotiable, like breathing oxygen or drinking water. We're going to have the sheets untucked and under the. Under the feet. And since you're, you know, 4 foot 7, you don't have to worry about that. But if you're, you know, of the height that can ride roller coasters at Six Flags, it can be a little bit of an issue. Okay, that's a paper stacker there. We move on. We were just having this conversation earlier, so I wanted to get your thoughts on this. I'm going to put higher stakes on you than I put on myself. So there is a world, of course, where Ohio State is every bit as legit as they look. And maybe they'll be the favorite to go on and win the title. Maybe they'll win the title, but that's not fun for anyone who's not an Ohio State fan to talk about in November. So let's say that we were to rub the magic eight ball and we get truth spilled to us. And it's just known truth. Ohio State's pretty vulnerable. They can be beaten just like everyone else. They're just one of the teams in the pack right now. They happen to be number one. If I were to tell you that's the reality, and I told you, you have to create your championship bubble. You can put as many teams in it as possible that you think can win a national championship. You're trying to put as few teams in there as possible, but if you leave someone out of the bubble that ends up winning the championship, you die. How many teams are in your bubble? Yeah, no, it's not. It's not lack of.

[Colson]

We're not giving up ice cream for a year or anything. We're just going. We're going straight to the coffin here.

[Josh Pate]

No.

[Colson]

Got it.

[Josh Pate]

You're dead. You are undertaker in the ground.

[Colson]

All right, we're leaving this thing small is. What is my reward for the smaller it is. Do I get like, extra years on my life?

[Josh Pate]

I don't know. I know that's what she said. I don't know what the reward is. I know you get to live. You do get to live.

[Colson]

Fair enough. And that. That's a pretty big bonus.

[Josh Pate]

And I'll get you credentialed to the national championship game so you get to watch the game that you predicted in your little bubble.

[Colson]

Gotcha.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah.

[Colson]

Okay. Indiana's Obviously going to be in there, balance on offense, elite quarterback play, efficient offense, enough on defense to be able to be disruptive and I think go win a game if they had to. Texas A and M obviously is going to be there. There are some flaws I think you could bring up that you may be slightly concerned about. Some people are just going to point to rushing yards allowed. I look at that more as when you have a high impact, high risk defense and you understand going in that you're going to take these chances, you know you're going to get hit with some bigger plays. I'm not overly concerned about that. They can pressure the quarterback, they can beat you on the ground through the air with high percentage throws and obviously a mobile quarterback as well. Alabama is there an offense that does everything. A defense that's still morphing this late in the season. Josh, they dropped eight last week, 23 times. I believe in that game against LSU, the front moved on run stunts and pressures more than I've seen a move all season. So they're still morphing and changing. They're going to be there. Georgia's going to be there. Similar boat to Alabama. Offense does absolutely everything. I think the offensive line is going to continue to grow by the time they get to second, third round of the playoffs. That could be an O line that they just lean on and just hammer people. It's been inconsistent through the course of the year, but it could be really good as we get through there later. I almost feel obligated to throw Texas Tech in here because of some injuries, bouncing back and forth between some guys. There's been a little bit of consistency that wasn't there at one point, but I think they have explosive capabilities on offense and they have a defensive line that can take over a game. And those are two qualities that I think you have to have right now to go win a national championship is why I would have Ole Miss there. Ole Miss is going to be able to do multiple things offensively to generate points to stress your offense and defense and they do not get enough credit for how good they are up front defensively between Eccles, Franklin and what they have Perkins on the edge to do different things. I don't love the second or third levels as much as I have in the past third level specifically, but they have enough to disrupt up front. Oregon is obviously their high profile quarterback in Dante Moore with an offensive line. It's a semifinals for the Joe Moore Award. They can, they can push you around for the most part and then have speed on the outside, the defensive line also disruptive. Notre Dame is still there, I think. I think can control the line of scrimmage. It'll be a different style game for them if they go win it. But I couldn't leave them out just because defensively they have a chance to be elite and one that can go takeover games. And now it starts to get, I think a little bit tricky because I look at Oklahoma and Texas and I want to put them both in. I think Oklahoma ceiling is a little bit higher than the Texas ceiling because John Matier can just be that much more special, I think than maybe anybody not named Ryan win going the Texas offense. Is offense going to be able to operate that way. There are some defenses that can mitigate that. Limit what he's able to do by either caging him in the pocket utilizing spy or spies, plural like we've seen Ole Miss do at times of Pete Golding this year. And then defensively if something happens and they take that Texas game plan into a postseason game and decide not to move as much, I think other teams could find the way to generate some offense.

I'm not. I don't have Texas in. I don't and I listen. Colin Simmons can take over a game. I love Trey Moore, love Ethan Burke. I think, I think Hill is maybe the best off the ball linebacker in college football. The offense has been too inconsistent. I don't know if you're going to be able to generate these explosives and make people miss and get in the open field and create explosive plays. I do think it's gotten better. But if we're talking about a playoff run against these other teams that we've mentioned, I don't think I'm going to have the Longhorns there and I think I'll probably cut my list off there as well.

[Josh Pate]

All right, so you're a no on usc, right?

[Colson]

Correct.

[Josh Pate]

All right, I am too. I'm about to add one more rule, so stay tuned. Are you a no on Miami?

[Colson]

Unfortunately, yes. And it's consistency only. It is not big time talent. It is not the ability to own the line of scrimmage. I think they can do that on both sides of the ball. Consistency, decision making by Carson Beck, which consistently has not been great. Have big play capabilities on the perimeter, love to run around and hit people, but just have not seen it week in, week out the way that I would need you to believe that you're going to run through the College Football Playoff and win all those games.

[Josh Pate]

Utah, I assume. No.

[Colson]

There'S a lot to like what they rely on offensively, I think would be a little bit easier to take away. Even with Spencer Fano and a really physical offensive line. Devin Dampier, to me, just ad libs a little bit too much weights, holds the ball a little bit too long. I think that'll have a chance to get them in trouble in one of those games we're referencing on the way to a national championship.

[Josh Pate]

All right. I forgot to tell you. This is competitive. So the reason you have to make your bubble as small as possible is because if anyone else, in this case, my bubble ends up being smaller than yours, you also die. So I have to inform you, in the interest of fairness, I have one fewer teams in my bubble than you do right now. Are you interested?

[Colson]

And I guess the team you left out, I let.

[Josh Pate]

Go ahead.

[Colson]

It's not Texas Tech because we know you fell in love with Lubbock last weekend and the things you've been saying about that place, you would never do such a thing to that football team. But I will go Oklahoma. I think you left Oklahoma out, and they are on my list.

[Josh Pate]

I left Oklahoma out, but I have Texas in. So we canceled each other out there. I left Texas Tech out, number one, because Lubbock's not playing in the playoff game. Texas Tech is. And number two, they're playing the game in Miami and not Lubbock. So I. I think quarterback would end up getting them in trouble in one of these bigger games. I don't think that they could push the ball enough, I think. And you remember you got to win three of them minimum. So you've got to stack those games on top of each other. I'm willing to bet against them doing that consistently enough where I can eliminate them and make my bubble smaller.

[Colson]

See, I like your mission accomplished by teeing me up to look bad in front of certain fan bases. So I wanted to make my tea higher than yours. After all the placating you did to Texas Tech fans and get it right there on top of that tea for you to just knock them off and they realize that that belief is just not there.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah. What's crazy is how vastly you underestimate my ability to seamlessly transition into taking credit for motivating a team and then be right back into good graces with that fan base. You really underestimate my ability.

[Colson]

Good luck with that.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah. It is the nature of good luck. All right, well, our bubbles are.

[Colson]

I have not mastered that because, trust me, the fan bases that don't like me. It has been years and they still hate me.

[Josh Pate]

So you even name squirrels after yourself on various camp I. You pay the money for it out of your own pocket and they still hate you.

[Colson]

We tried, man.

[Josh Pate]

All right, here we go. By the way, we got a couple of games coming up this weekend. I did want to remind everyone because we get DMed about this. Yes, we still have the SeatGeek promo code. Yes, you can go to SeatGeek right now. We're going to talk about Ou Bama in just a second. Are tickets available? No, it's sold out. But wait, they are, because you can go to SeatGeek right now and you can purchase them. You can sit in the uppers, you can sit in the lowers. You can do the same thing over at Georgia when they play Texas. You can go to Mississippi State. You can go wherever you want to go to SeatGeek. And right before you check out where it says promo code there, if you feel like saving money, just enter Pate 10P, a T E10. And that's going to get you 10% off your order up to $200. And anything over $200. Well, I mean, we're not psychopaths around here. We can't give you unlimited 10% off. What we would do is we would just give you $20 off any purchase over 200. So I know you guys are going to the games anyway. Go to SeatGeek, get your tickets there, pay 10, 20% off at checkout. All right, bring him back, Jesse. You want tickets, by the way? You need tickets to anything. I don't think you do. I know. I know how you roll.

[Colson]

I think I. I think I got a credential Saturday night. If not Josh, Max is going to be in some trouble.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah. What's the last game you. What's the last sporting event you paid to go to?

Oh.

[Colson]

Probably a Braves baseball game two summers ago against the Nats. Nats won three to two.

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Yeah.

[Josh Pate]

In extras or just in nine?

[Colson]

No, it was regular nine.

[Josh Pate]

Okay. I went to Braves Mets in 1993 and saw Jeff Blouser hit a home run but still lose to the Mets in 10. So that was my Fulton County. Fulton County Stadium. Only experience there, I think was that Piazza.

No, he was not there yet. He was in la. He was in LA at that time.

[Colson]

Gotcha.

[Josh Pate]

Good solid player. Good solid player. All right, here we go. Oklahoma. Alabama. I am very nervous about because I've exposed myself because I went Alabama to win. I went Alabama pretty solidly. Now, it could go way sideways with turnovers as most any game can I'm going to count on Ty Simpson being able to operate that offense like he pretty much has done all year. Absent a traditional ground game, people keep throwing the oh, you run defense in my face. I have this like twisted view on this game where I would be more concerned about it if rushing was a more integral part of Bama's offensive profile. It's already not. You've done a great job on this show. When you've come on it, documenting how they do accomplish what is the equivalent of running the ball. They just do it different than here, run through the B gap. They don't do it that way, but they still accomplish it. So I watched Ole Miss play Oklahoma. I watched Tennessee play Oklahoma. Those are the two passing attacks I would most readily compare to what Alabama can throw at you. Both of them were 320 or greater through the air, I think. So I trust that to manifest itself into some offensive production for Alabama. I also go back and watch the LSU game, which I know you have several times, and you just look at how many missed opportunities there were in explosive plays downfield by like fingertips, just by inches here or there. So I just imagine the focus on precision, the focus on accuracy, the focus on execution in route running and throwing the ball this week. I, for some reason, I really think it manifests itself in one of their most complete looking finals on the scoreboard this week. So I think they're going to win and it's not like some blowout or anything like that, but I think they'll win. I think they'll cover that five and a half. I actually think they're going to win the game by 10 or more. How wrong or right do you think that is?

[Colson]

I think you're probably wrong in thinking that it's going to be a big win. There are a lot of things that could be problematic for Alabama in this game, but there are not a lot of other things that I think Oklahoma can do to say extend the lead or just walk past Alabama in this game. I, I love the Alabama defense being able to do some different things than they were doing six, seven weeks ago. I think some of those can actually help against John Matiere. I love like say Jordan Jefferson at linebacker and the his ability to run, how fast he is, being able to utilize him as somebody who sort of just negates what John Mateer can do on the ground. We say spy all the time and it doesn't always work. But understand, you go back and watch Lenore Sellers against Ole Miss. Pete Golding did something I'm not sure I've ever seen. He had double spies for a lot of the game. And I don't think people oftentimes. Josh see the fact that even though the spy doesn't make the tackle, there were multiple instances. Roman, I talked about this on Read and React, where you see Lenore Sellers kind of start to tuck the ball and look to run. You can see his helmet turn and he sees that guy four or five yards off the ball, off the line of scrimmage and immediately turns to go a different direction. Like spies can operate in that instance as well, where you're just a deflector to be able to get the quarterback to leave the pocket a different way so he doesn't have those direct north south runs. When he decides to tuck the ball and run, which is usually when they're most dangerous. You don't want John Mateer to be able to do that. If he wants to run 360s around the pocket, try to go back and forth and zigzag. Great. Because the longer that lasts, the more likelihood it is that it's going to be a play that goes into your favor to the rushing yards. It was interesting. You said people are giving you the rush defense numbers for Oklahoma to which everybody tells me that the earth falling in going to cave in for Alabama because they can't find ways to run the football. When you do all the other things as well as Alabama does, I think it offsets a little bit of that. The good news for Alabama is where Oklahoma is most problematic is between the tackles and off tackle. And depending on the health of our Mason Thomas may not be as effective off tackle as they have been. They can work their way around all of that quick throws on the perimeter. They're great with the screen game. Against lsu you saw Cuevas on a little quick dump up the seams to the tight end. You have receivers that can hurt you down the field. Ty Simpson loves to work the middle of the field. And as busy as Oklahoma is adding defenders to the box, utilizing numbers in the box to take away the run or pressure, there will be spots over the middle of the field that are open for him. This will come down to the Alabama offensive line just keeping him clean. If they can keep defenders off of him and escape a sack, fumble, strip sack for a touchdown, a hit that sort of deflects the ball up in the air and Oklahoma can intercept it because I still don't know how good or great the Oklahoma secondary is. The defensive tackles are incredible. The edge defenders are really Good. The linebackers can fly. The secondary hasn't had a ton of true tests this year because that group has been so good. So if Alabama can utilize quick game quarterback, run a little bit of run game here and there, keep them off balance, force them to sort of calm things down as much as possible, that's the recipe for Bama to go win this game. Now I will say this offensively, Oklahoma's kind of finding their way a little bit the last two, three games. Hat on a hat with that offensive line finding some space in the run game. This is a little bit of a different group. I think they're going to be playing from a front seven perspective. But if they lean on that and it starts to go and I'm not talking 2030 yard clips or 20 carries for 218 yards. They just need to be in second and six. They need to be in third and fours. And with John Matier's ability to move around, if they can do those things, I think Oklahoma can maintain possession. Then it could end up being a long day for Alabama. But have to have those first and second downs go first consistently if Oklahoma is going to find a way to be competitive or win this football game.

[Josh Pate]

Have you stood, have you done an Oklahoma game this year?

[Colson]

No.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah. So have you, have you watched. You have not watched Mater from field level, right?

[Colson]

Not in person. I met him at media days, but I haven't, I haven't seen him play in person.

[Josh Pate]

I remember I sent you that video from the Michigan game when we were there and like everyone, everyone was making a big deal about Mattier's release point and how crazy it was now low it was. Now they were using that to like disqualify for him from any legit conversation, which I thought was dumb. I bet him to win the Heisman, so obviously I was high enough on him. Then he got hurt and he hasn't really been the same sense. But to my knowledge, like I'm trying to think back, there hasn't been. Has there been that Oklahoma game where they're like four or five balls batted. It just becomes a chronic issue in game. It may have happened and I don't recall it, but I keep also waiting for that game because when I sent you that video, it is so glaring when you're standing there and you watch how different the ball comes out of his hand, how much lower the release point is. In the video I sent you. I did it on purpose because you're looking at. It looks like a squirrel weaving his way through trees to Watch the football weave its way through, you know, extended arms of defenders. Now, it doesn't matter if no one gets a hand on it. But as like, as much as I'm concerned about, ooh, what if this defensive pressure, what if Bama's offensive line can't hold up? What if. Mr. One interception all year. Ty Simpson has two of them in the first half. As much as I think about that, I keep thinking about the same thing with him and I think about how opportunistic Bama's defense has been. Like, you got a, I think you got a top 10 turnover ratio team here against one in the 1/ hundreds. And the one in the 1/ hundreds is the road team, I think we said the other night. So that's the other thing I think about with Mattier. And then the third thing I was going to ask you about because you kind of mentioned Justin Jefferson and you mentioned the role he could play in this game. Bray Hubbard got like one of the player of the week honors in the sec, which is just wild.

[Colson]

He was great last week.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah. Like you think about how we were talking about him after week one though, think about if you were to have fast forwarded and you showed yourself a glimpse of mid November and this is how we're going to be talking about the Bama defense. And individually this is how we were going to be talking about this player or that player. Oh, by the way, Russo is going to be out, so they're going to lose him for a little while and that's still going to be the state of that defense. How surprised are you at where they are right now relative to how they started the season?

[Colson]

The only reason I'm not is because we had the Ulm game and we got to go in that facility. We got to Talk to Kaylin DeBoer, talk to Kane Womack. I spent a lot of time with David Ballou, the strength coach that weekend, talking to him at practice and hearing everybody's message be exactly the same. That came out of nowhere. We had the best off season from a weight room perspective, nutrition perspective. We had the best two a days. Not they don't do two days anymore, but the best fall camp we had the most physical camp we've had. Everything was the most and the best and it was completely unexpected. And having known Kaylin for a while, I didn't think he was lying to me. Having known Coach Womack for a while, I didn't think he was lying to me. Having known Grub for a little bit, I didn't think he was lying to me. I've known Ballou for a while. He wouldn't lie to me. So that forced me to kind of take a step back and say, all right, we need to give them a chance to write this. Because if it was that wrong, based on what the whole staff thought they were going to get. And you know, Josh, most staffs know what they have. They might not want to admit it and they might lie to themselves every single day until it's all over with and they're fired. But that staff did not think that was feasible to put that kind of performance out there. So I kind of said to myself, we need to give them a chance. We need to give them a second, take a step back. We weren't going to take a ton away from the Ulm game, but they responded. So that was job number one. Came back, put it on the way they were supposed to handle their business. Then I said, all right, now we're about to learn what this team really is. They have my attention again. Let's at least see what it is from here on out. So from that perspective, I'm not overly surprised. I think I'm just more surprised that we got. We have outliers all the time in this sport, individual position groups, teams. We always have those funky losses or an offensive line that just lets guys run through like a turnstile or DBs that get smoked for throughout the course of the game. We have it all the time. So I'm more surprised that it was that week one. But again, this is where the retraining of the brains still needs to come around and happen, because week one's going to be a lot different for so many teams moving forward. There are these guys in this locker room that have known each other for four or five weeks, not played football together. Like they probably don't know each other's names when they're lining up next to them in an actual football game. So that takes your continuity away. The feel, the chemistry, the rhythm. Then all of a sudden, if you're getting different looks on defense and the guy that I thought I was going to be IDing in the mic is not even in the game. And they're running a totally different front than we prepared for. All of a sudden, that changes in a hurry. So I'm more surprised that it was that much of an outlier than I am that they've been able to bounce back only because I had those conversations.

[Josh Pate]

It's crazy. Also, the ingredients that only the season can give you and I could just as easily. We may end up saying this about Indiana last week against Penn State. You could practice as well as you possibly could. You could lift as well, eat as well as you possibly could. There may, for all you know, be an ingredient that it's mandatory the season provides. You could be a loss, could be a close win, but it's what you get out of that ingredient that you could never have replicated. You go in Alabama's building now, like I've asked several of their guys point blank, do you think you would be remotely the team you are without the FSU outcome? Everyone says no, no, didn't know we needed that, certainly didn't hope we needed that. But as it turns out, there's, there's an edge here. Now, I don't think we would have had, try as we might, we probably would not have had that without the Florida State game. My thinking there is, okay, who, who else do I apply that to during the season? And it may be Indiana. It may be that Indiana sitting there in the national championship game and they've won three back to back to back close games to get there. And you're like, wow, would we have been able to do that without that Penn State game, which people called a weakness, they called a flaw at the time.

[Colson]

Why do we outweigh that though, by how incredible it was for Indiana to come back and win that game?

[Josh Pate]

I don't know.

[Colson]

Like, why do we outweigh the closeness of it against a lower tier opponent, which that should even be an outlier in and of itself. It's kind of like playing for SEC fans. That would be like playing a close game against LSU or Florida right now. Like, yeah, they fired their coach, but let's go through the litany of first round draft picks that they have on their rosters. It's a lot of them combined, especially. So you don't think talent can catch up with you consistently on a regular basis like I do? It's not going to happen every week because we don't know where their brains are. We don't know if they're mad, happy, sad, dad, want to leave, don't like the fact that their coach got fired, elated that their coach got fired. We never know what that is. Penn State still has talent. At the end of the day, that environment is still very difficult to go play in no matter what. But we outweigh that by the, the ifs, ands, buts, ors of why didn't they go in there, win by 40, what's wrong with them? What's their problem. How many teams in that spot could have done what that team did specifically taking a sack on first down to that two minute drive. That's the part that nobody's talking about, Josh. You know how many teams on a two minute drive, 90 something yards to go win the game back against the wall, hadn't done anything all day that take a sack on first down like done.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah, yeah.

[Colson]

Take away the best wide receiver from that. You're just not.

[Josh Pate]

One more game I wanted to get to here. Texas got two shots at Georgia lab. Sorry Bradley, I'll give you a chance to change the lower. There we go. Texas got two shots at Georgia last year, went 0 2, had 60 combined rushing yards in the process and the latter of which was the conference title game and they got beat by a backup quarterback income from behind fashion in the second half. That backup is now Georgia's starter. Really interested to see how you see this game. I had several reasons that my mind wanted me to take Texas. Had some reasons why the model wanted me to take Texas in the interest of Georgia playing all these one possession games. Who knows if I had to bet the game against the spread, may even take Texas plus the points because it just has 24 to 21 written all over it to me. But at some point, man, I almost have the tendency to zoom out on games like this. I'll leave it to you to talk about all the matchups. Like I'll leave it to you to point out specific players. My nature is if you're Texas or Georgia, you get to decide how you play. You get to decide the offense and defense you run because you get your choice of athletes to do whatever you want to. You get to staff however you want because you got the biggest staff pools in the country. You have endless resources. So the way you're doing it is the way you would do it if you could do it anyway. This is the way Georgia chooses to do it. This is the way Texas chooses to do it. So it's almost like a culture test, like a culture game. It's like a program game every time this stuff happens. So Georgia's run up against Bama and had trouble. Texas. Now I'm watching them run up against Georgia. Smaller sample size but they've had trouble. And so I had someone ask me earlier this week, well, who do you think Texas is? I just paused for a second because I could answer that about Kirby and Georgia. I've long since been able to answer that. How do I answer that? How would as we get into the Game breakdown here. How do you answer what is Texas under Steve Sarkeesian to you? Because I think the data is still incomplete or maybe like to get to the finished version of the answer. You have to. You have to be on the right side of outcomes like this eventually.

[Colson]

And I think they can be because the talent has the ceiling for them to be. This comes down to consistency again and last year's team was very consistent at doing things when asked to do them. Inside of that system allows them to win games. Take a swing pass in the flat, take a crossing route, take a toss sweep or an outside zone to the running back making 2, 3 defenders miss. Instead of going for 4 yards, it's 24 yards or 44 yards. There's a small amount of games that Texas has done that consistently this season. I've told you, you go back and put the UTEP game on. It's the best individual tackling performance still that I have seen in college football this year. The amount of one on one tackles that were made against Texas ball carriers. What? It didn't feel like it was real. It felt like it was CGI when I was watching it. You put the Vanderbilt film on and all of a sudden five guys can't get one guy down. And I don't know exactly where that comes from or how that's derived or what makes one or not the other. Playing together, understanding angle system, just having done it before, Ryan Wingo looked like Superman last week. If he looks like that again, Texas probably going to win this football game. I think this will come down to a couple of things. Number one for me, I like how you sort of leveled this game out, like went back to an elementary floor level with this game because I agree that a lot of that is what it's going to be. Last year Texas basically ran into a team that said we're about to see what you're about. Like, do you have the S about you that we know we do because we're going to put it on display and we're going to test yours. And I don't think Texas had it. I really don't. Do they have it this year? If they do, they'll play with them. It'll be a competitive game. And at that point it comes down to some, some schematic things and maybe a mistake or two. But Texas has to prove that to me first. This kind of is. It's not as elementary or for ground level. When I was in college, my offensive line coach Rick Tricket used to go the whiteboard in Certain games like this, and he would say them latex, use Auburn. And he would circle Auburn. He's like, where's Auburn? You win this game? And like, that was it. That was how he broke the game down. I wish it would have been that easy. It wasn't always that easy. But this game, to me, starts out being simplified to that level. Will Texas match the grit, the physicality? Are they hard enough to be able to go out and win this game? Ultimately, I think that's what it comes down to. Because if they're not that Josh, they don't have a chance to win this game. If they are, then we can talk about the lost players on offense, like a Dylan Bell or a Jack injuries, because so many other guys are going to get so much attention and they're going to have their chances to make some plays, and if they make big plays, they'll be able to do that. And offensive line being able to pick up Colin Simmons or being able to pick up Georgia pressures, all those things come into play after that. But if Texas isn't that, there's really not a lot else for us to talk about as far as this game is concerned.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah, the other thing, I've listened to a lot of folks out of Georgia talk about trying to manufacture as best you can this late in the season, some kind of pass rush. It's been very, very well documented how much they've struggled in that category this year. Now, to their credit, they've kind of resurrected their ground game. Think they were 24th in the country coming into this week. I know it's very, very.

Not in vogue to give Mike Bobo credit for anything, but, you know, maybe a little crumbs worth of credit to him and that offensive staff. But with so with Georgia. All right, so anytime you go to a place like Georgia, you see these young guys walking around the building that you know are not going to be ready to go week one. But you always think to yourself, all right, not every one of these guys is going to redshirt. So some of them are just going to randomly pop on my screen, usually on special teams, week three, week four, then some injuries happen, or maybe you're just not performing up to expectation and they get in the rotation against the team, they're up by 35 against. And then all of a sudden Texas comes to town and some young kid ends up in the backfield and you're like checking your play card to make sure you've got the name and the number right. I always think about that possibility. What yonze Pierre has been doing this year, not a freshman, but all of a sudden just kind of coming on and doing what he was projected to do out of high school. Georgia's got those guys too. I just wonder, like from a ground level, when you're sitting in a defensive staffing room and you're trying to throw everything against the wall saying, guys, we're not going to lead the SEC in sacks this week. Let's not even pretend we have that high level capability. How do we do more than we're doing right now? What are some simple steps they can take here, if they can take any at all?

[Colson]

The first thing I thought of is, man, this happened a week early for Georgia and it was number 10 at tight end last week. And you're just like, hold on a second, who is that and where has he been? He looks like he's an NBA small forward out here in pads, knocking people down on the goal line, catching balls over in midair, over to the sideline, tiptoeing before he goes out of bounds like that. Shouldn't be allowed his size to be that athletic and that fast. As far as the pass rush is concerned, there are ways to generate it. And one of the reasons I'll always give Georgia an advantage to be able to find it is the precision in which they run their pressures. A great example of that, a great counter to that would have been Mississippi State last week and what they attempted to do to Georgia. A lot of their three man games, a lot of their two man pressures, very wide around the penetrators that were trying to basically clog up space and allow for a gap or an alley for them to be able to run through. That thing would come around the tackle instead of just hugging that butt cheek of that defensive tackle right over the guard. And so when you do that, you obviously give the quarterback more time to operate. There is, there is, I guess, less selfishness and more precision with the way Georgia runs their pressures than almost any other team in college football. They just, they know how to operate it and they don't do it for themselves. You can tell they understand the assignment and it is to either occupy these two offensive linemen or keep this offensive lineman from being able to get into this gap. And they do it well because they play fierce football with authority. So the individuals might not be there, but the way in which they do it, and I will say Texas is a team that relies a lot on two things, pull protection and slide protection. Those are gettable because if you're trying to pull an offensive lineman around to one, pick up an edge. Dude, for me, coming off the edge, that's where Jalen Walker got him a couple of times last year. And when you pull that backside guard on that, the center and the tackle then have to close two gaps again. That takes time, and that's a lot of space that is created for a short amount of time. You can attack that. You want to slide the protection. All these D coordinators have ways figured out how to get past that to occupy offensive linemen. And you're not going to have somebody in the gap when you retrace a defender back over where they should have been because they're playing like robots and only going to one spot. So I would say the pressures that they're going to draw up, the precision in which they will run them and the authority in which they will run them with, almost takes away the personnel part of it, because Georgia's been that good at that part for so long. They still have a chance to find a way to get home by doing those things.

[Josh Pate]

Now I want you to tell the people how to find Cube Show.

[Colson]

Lost in Space There is a podcast that talks about SEC football every Sunday, Monday or Tuesday. It all depends on FAA flight regulations and flights getting canceled. It depends on flights being moved up. It depends on read and react on Mondays and how many games we have to watch on Sunday. But it is called Cube Show. It is right here on YouTube. We are closing in on 20,000 subscribers to which some guy said that we needed to throw that in your face and I just laughed because I feel like you're pushing people there on a weekly basis, which we appreciate. But we're getting there. We're just this little old startup podcast trying to make some noise. We watch the film of every SEC game and we tell you what you see. So we do facts and opinions. The only things we have.

[Josh Pate]

It's the only things we have. The only things we need. Cube Show C U B E S H O W Space in between those Cube show and you can find it and it's free and you should subscribe there. Just like I hope, fingers crossed, that you guys have done here. All right, have fun. I'll talk to you probably like 19 times between the next time you're on the show. So pick up, please.

[Colson]

What time is Friday night, Lions? I need to get back in there with some of my questions.

[Josh Pate]

It's a great question. So we'll be down in Athens. I'm going to go down there tomorrow, actually, so we'll be down there tomorrow.

Depending on how long I hang around with Scott Sinclair in the weight room, we will get out of there. We will probably do it at like halftime of the night games like we did last week. I'm thinking, as you know, Friday night games too. As you know, you can follow on Instagram, Josh Pate, cfb and I'll let you know for sure. But yeah, I haven't made my mind.

[Colson]

People need to know what's happening with Merrimack in Coast Guard and you refuse to acknowledge those games.

[Josh Pate]

Coast Guard. What, what, what, what offense does Coast Guard run? It's service academy. You know, Coast Guard, Space Force have a team yet. I don't think Space Force has a team yet.

[Colson]

Looking into it. Struggling with the nil. Can't. Can't get that going just yet.

[Josh Pate]

Well, I don't even know that Navy and Air Force have been able to play.

[Colson]

Gravity's holding them back, honestly from being able to go, hurry up. No huddle, offense.

[Josh Pate]

But other than that, all right, we got dinner to eat, so we got to go. Peace out.

[Colson]

Okay, thank you.

[Josh Pate]

And that's a wrap for us. Remember, just subscribe to the channel. Do it with Kublix, do it with mine. You're already here. You have the added benefit. It's a home game. You're already here if you're watching our show. But really, in all sincerity, we appreciate you guys. You've done a marvelous job. We're almost at half a million. That's a real number, which is wild. So if you haven't already, it's right there. If you're listening on podcast, you could follow the podcast, but I'm specifically talking about the YouTube channel. Just click subscribe. Nothing happens. There's no puff of smoke. There's no charge to your card. There's no nothing. It just helps us out. Appreciate you guys so much. Friday night lines from Athens, tomorrow night, the games on Saturday. We'll be right back here on Sunday to react to what the world brings us. Until then, for director Bradley producer Jesse, I'm Josh Pate. Take care. Have a great start to your week. Enjoy the games and God bless.

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