Joy, a Podcast: Episode featuring Josh Robert Thompson
Hosted by Craig Ferguson
Release Date: February 4, 2025
Introduction
In this episode of Joy, Craig Ferguson sits down with Josh Robert Thompson, a multifaceted artist known for his work as a voice actor, comedian, and podcaster. The conversation delves deep into their shared history on the "Late Late Show," the evolving landscape of media with the advent of AI, and personal reflections on aging and creative expression.
Reflections on Past Work
Craig begins by reminiscing about their time on the "Late Late Show," highlighting the unique dynamic they shared, especially through the character Jeff Peterson. Josh acknowledges Craig’s pivotal role in pushing projects like Ghost Rider, emphasizing their creative synergy.
Craig Ferguson [05:13]: "All right. So yours is obviously Ghost Rider."
Josh Robert Thompson [05:19]: "Yes, Ghost Rider. I know that yours was Ghostwriter. I thought you were a big Ghostwriter fan."
They discuss memorable moments, including interactions with fans and the challenges of maintaining creativity within network constraints.
The Impact of AI and Digital Media
A significant portion of their dialogue centers on the rise of Artificial Intelligence and its implications for creative work. Craig expresses concerns about AI replicating their unique improvisational chemistry, which Josh counters by sharing experiences of AI-generated content mimicking their voices and personas.
Josh Robert Thompson [11:19]: "You know what? Some guy just did that. I don't remember his name, but he built a Jeff Peterson. He was some kind of inventor or roboticist."
They debate the authenticity of AI-driven performances and the irreplaceable nature of human spontaneity in comedy and entertainment.
Craig Ferguson [15:03]: "Oh, you can't make me and Josh Robert Thompson and AI. And maybe they can't."
Stand-Up vs. Podcasting and Personal Projects
Transitioning to their individual creative endeavors, Josh discusses his move away from stand-up comedy towards more nuanced projects like podcasting and ambient electronic music. Craig shares his own challenges with performing and the satisfaction he derives from behind-the-scenes work.
Craig Ferguson [28:56]: "Do you like Joe Rogan and people like that? Is that who you listen to?"
Josh Robert Thompson [32:24]: "Yeah. Joe Rogan, I think, is interesting."
They explore the benefits of longer-form content, such as podcasts, which allow for deeper exploration of ideas compared to the brevity of stand-up routines.
Aging and Perspective Changes
Both hosts reflect on reaching their 50s, discussing how aging has shifted their perspectives on life, creativity, and personal priorities. Josh appreciates the newfound peace and selective engagement, while Craig shares regrets and realizations about his own career trajectory.
Craig Ferguson [45:34]: "Do you worry about getting older?"
Josh Robert Thompson [46:14]: "No, man, I love it because. And I wish I had felt this way while we were doing the show."
They touch upon the importance of evolving with age and the liberating effect it has on their creative processes.
Authenticity in the Digital Age
The conversation delves into the authenticity of digital interactions versus in-person engagements. They express a longing for the genuine connection that comes from being physically present, highlighting the limitations of remote conversations and the superficiality of online interactions.
Craig Ferguson [58:22]: "I feel like in the world of, like, Talking to people for 11 or performative conversations, I think I'm as good as anyone who does it."
Josh Robert Thompson [59:39]: "If we were all together in a studio, be different, be completely different."
Both agree that while digital platforms offer convenience, they often fall short of capturing the essence of real-time, face-to-face communication.
Personal Anecdotes and Stories
Throughout the episode, Craig and Josh share numerous personal stories that illustrate their points. Notably, Craig recounts meeting two Amtrak drivers who mimicked their Jeff Peterson hand gesture, symbolizing the lasting impact of their work.
Craig Ferguson [65:24]: "There are people in my life, and you are definitely one of them."
Josh opens up about his struggles with his early creative projects and the harsh self-criticism that followed, mirroring Craig’s own reflections on his film work.
Josh Robert Thompson [51:13]: "I can't conceive of speaking that way now. And it's...just how you are now."
These stories underscore the themes of growth, resilience, and the enduring nature of artistic connections.
Conclusion and Future Outlook
As the episode wraps up, both hosts express mutual admiration and support for each other’s ongoing projects. They contemplate the possibility of future collaborations, such as a live Late Late Show segment hosted on Josh’s lawn, blending their comedic talents with personal creativity.
Craig Ferguson [73:07]: "We'll talk about it."
Josh Robert Thompson [73:12]: "But we'll talk about it."
Their closing remarks reinforce the episode’s underlying message about the importance of joy, creativity, and authentic human connections in an ever-evolving world.
Notable Quotes
- Craig Ferguson [15:03]: "Oh, you can't make me and Josh Robert Thompson and AI. And maybe they can't."
- Josh Robert Thompson [28:33]: "It's not about me. Someone else's success has zero. I mean, you could be jealous. That's a normal thing."
- Craig Ferguson [26:29]: "Have you seen a British comedian called Stuart Lee? Have to see this guy. The rage in this human being is so awesome."
- Josh Robert Thompson [64:16]: "The name of my band, it's just me, is called Distant Sound of Trains."
This episode of Joy offers a profound exploration of creativity, technology, and personal growth, enriched by the candid and humorous interplay between Craig Ferguson and Josh Robert Thompson. Listeners are left with a deeper appreciation of the complexities behind finding joy in a rapidly changing world.