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Get Your Life Back | Nick and Johnny from Relive Health | JP Dinnell Podcast 121
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Good morning. This is the JP Donnell podcast, episode 121. I am JP Donnell and as always, I have Lucas with me. So today I am really excited that Lucas and I get to sit down with two of my close buddies, Nick and Johnny. Nick and Johnny own Relive Health in Flower Mound, Texas. I know Lucas and I have talked about them and Relive on the podcast a few times. So for us to be able to have them on the podcast, it's gonna be awesome. I actually first met these two gentlemen at Double 5 Jiu Jitsu where they started their Jiu Jitsu. Jo, I'm excited for us to also jump into and how those relationships came about. And I remember after I met him briefly, Farmiga had introduced me to one of them and we were talking, they left. Farmiga was telling me about their clinic and you know, I just didn't think anything twice about it and but then started to get to know them and hear about them from them. Training at Double five and then becoming close with some of my buddies as well. And you know, I've, I've been on TRT for, I mean almost 13, maybe a little over 13 years that has been, you know, had to have it prescribed to me and you know, a lot of education over the years about TRT and the effects and how my body reacts to it. Also been using peptides for the last four to five years. I know it's gotten popular in the last, I don't know, 18 months, maybe two years. But one of my buddies told me about peptides. I started doing my research and there is not one person that could convince me that peptides do not work. I know we've talked about what happened with my bicep when I tore and detached it and I had a schedule on that and maybe we'll definitely talk about that on this episode. About how just the care, I guess I would say and the protocol that I've been on from switching over and working with Relive Health absolutely expedited my recovery on this surgery. And you know, just the, I also know like how being on TRT makes me feel good, makes me feel just like I'm supposed to. And then also, you know, my wife is on a very small, small, small prescribed dose of TRT and it's been an absolute game changer for her. And so TRT for men and women is, in my opinion it should be a non negotiable for every man and woman. But at different certain points in their life, there are some people that need it Sooner. There are some people that, you know, actually don't need it for a while. But there will come up a point where I don't. I wouldn't understand why somebody would not want to have energy, would not want to recover, would not want to feel good, to be focused, have mental clarity, and that's what a good TRT and hrt. Hormone replacement therapy. Right, hrt, yeah. Will do for you. And that's what I've also been educated a lot more on since, you know, getting to know Nick and Johnny and going to Relive Health. And I know they'll talk about their staff there. Their staff is absolutely incredible. Some of the most caring staff members I've ever worked with in any clinic or any business. Some of the most attentive, like, attentive to detail individuals for each individual. You're not just. You're not going in there, you're not getting like, oh, cool. Boom. This. It's. Hey, this is what you need based off your blood work, based off your lifestyle, based off of all these other things. Extremely, extremely educated, just incredibly smart staff. And I remember when I first went in there, just the experience that I had and then the experience that my wife had, and everybody that we've referred over there has said the same thing. Man, those guys are awesome. Their staff is great. And I know we'll get into all the different services that Relive Health offers, because I know my daughters are able to help with some treatments for, you know, just some skin things, acne. It's just I can't say enough things. You know, my wife and I were actually talking about it the other day, and that's why I'm excited to have them on here, too. Just educate all of us more about the benefits of all these things, but also, like, their journey for being able to be, you know, to have this business. Because, yes, they're building a business for their family, stability and longevity and a legacy play. But as they build this business, they have a juice. I don't. I don't think Nick and Johnny understand the impact that they're having for their community by taking care of people, going above and beyond. So I'm just super excited to have them here. They are also both believers. They go now, both go to the village church with Pastor Matt Chandler, supporters of the ministry that Lucas and I are a part of. Jesus and Jiu Jitsu. So, again, I'm really looking forward to getting to their stories today, learning about their business, more about hrt, TRT and everything that the clinic offers Nick, Johnny, how you guys doing?
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What's up, man? Appreciate you having us.
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Absolutely. Thanks for having us on.
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B
Good seeing you.
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Is.
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Is.
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How are you, Lucas?
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It's good.
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Good.
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It's good.
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Good.
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D
Good to be here. Family's finally over. All the illness. Dude, it sucked. Flu took us out this year.
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A
Yeah.
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D
So good to be back.
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Glad you're. Glad you're back doing good. I failed as a friend. I should have freaking had. I should have just went and kidnapped Lucas and brought him over the clinic.
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B
And forced them to do a basketball.
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D
Put my head in a. In a plastic bag so I didn't contaminate anybod.
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B
We do have a belt for the.
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D
It'd be my own little version of sear training.
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A
Yeah, we can go back to those days. Waterboarding is fun. No, I'm just kidding.
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B
We're gonna edit that part out because.
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A
We just lost people with that one. I don't know.
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D
They could like it. They're here for a reason.
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So who wants to go first? What was Johnny. Okay, cool. So left. What. Where'd you grow up? What was childhood like? You know?
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Sure. Born in West Palm Beach, Florida.
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A
Oh, nice.
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B
Yeah. Raised. Not the. Not the part that everyone thinks of West Palm Beach, Florida. It doesn't matter.
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You have West Palm Beach, Florida in your address. Like, Okay, I know there's good and bad parts of everywhere.
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C
Yeah.
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But bro.
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So in Florida, usually if you're east of 95, you're. You're doing okay. If you're west of 95, there's a big difference.
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Okay.
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So valid. A great family. I was loved by both my parents. Yeah.
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That's all that matters, right?
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Yeah.
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B
Amen. Yeah. So raised just north of that Jensen beach area, which is. We'll get to there. But normal life. Played sports. Family loved me. Parents divorced. I was probably about 10. So then I kind of was with my dad mostly through the end of middle school and high school. Actually went to Catholic middle school and then public high school, which was an eye opening experience.
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D
Yeah.
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B
Yeah.
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What was that transition like for you? Going from, you know, private Catholic to public.
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Oh, man, what an eye opening experience. I mean, because I went from like, goody, goody, everything's evil to everyone sitting next to me has done ABC xyz. And I'm like, you know what? And I was not exposed to any of that. So it's a big eye opening experience.
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Yeah, that was probably me when I went into junior high, because, you know, I mean, you're in elementary school and where I grew up in And Fair Oaks, which is a little suburb of Sacramento, California, like, really good area, good neighborhood. I was in church all the time, and then all of a sudden I go to junior high where I'm riding the bus and I'm like, what is secular music? I had never listened to anything other than oldies or Christian music until I rode the bus to junior high. And it was, it was an eye opener. And so now all of a sudden you're in a public school and you're in here and all those things. Did that provide, like any struggles at an early age or how were your. Did your parents help you navigate it or.
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Well, so at this time, I wouldn't say struggles, but so I was just with my dad and he worked nights, so school during the day, he works at night. So I didn't see him much. I was blessed that I had like a lot of freedom and I was, I was good, you know, until I wasn't. And then that's when I got cracked on, you know, that wasn't until later and that was until my senior year. But I mean, so I think I kind of had like a silent agreement, agreement with my dad where I knew, I just. He's like my idol. Such a hard working guy. He just retired last week that I just saw him just work, work, work for. Just to provide for us. And, you know, did I have everything I wanted? Of course not, but I had what I needed, you know, that's.
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I'm just so thankful that my parents also set that same example. Like, hey, you work, work, work. Like that's what we're supposed to do, you know, and then when God gives you an opportunity, it doesn't matter what it is, work, you know, do it with a joyful heart. And it seems like your dad did that and congrats on his retirement.
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Yeah, yeah. Shout out, dad. Yeah. I never thought I would see the day and just know. I'm not saying he's emotionless because he is emotional, but I mean, as far as, you know, not complaining, not, you know, I do this, I do that. No, just. Just work and come home and, you know, food's in the fridge and that's awesome. You know, what else do I need?
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What sports did you play?
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Played soccer for 15 years until skateboarding took over. And then nothing was cool to me anymore except for skateboarding.
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At what point did you shift from soccer to skateboarding?
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Probably about 13, 14.
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Okay, well, both.
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Use your feet, you know.
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Yeah, yeah. Wow.
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One in the same.
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I could do one, not the other. I could play Soccer wasn't good, but I could play soccer. Did you ever play soccer, Lucas?
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I did, yeah. I played soccer for a long time and then football took over and I tried skateboarding. But we were, I grew up in the, in the Jackass era, right?
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So.
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Yeah, yeah, like we learned how to skateboard from CKY music videos which meant that most of my skateboarding was from the top of a roof over a trampoline. I wasn't worried about hitting kick flips. I was worried about making cool videos, bruv.
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Yeah, I was introduced, I was, I was introduced to skateboarding when I was in elementary school by one of my buddies, Garrett Peterson and his older brother and all his friends skated and they were like the hardcore punk rock skateboarders. And my parents didn't really want me getting into skateboarding because of that type of person. You know, they just, you know, it was all like sex, drugs and rock and roll back at that time. And they actually had a half pipe built in their backyard and they were like hard core skateboarders. And I tried it and I really sucked. And I have maintained that skill level my whole life. So like what for you skateboarding, what, what brought you like joy from that?
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So if I look back at it now from my age now that just friends always been like super important to me. Obviously once again I was loved by both my parents, but I didn't spend a lot of time with them. And my mom was kind of love you mom, but she was, you know, moved out of town and moved, you know, here. And so my dad was like always the stable one there. But I, you know, because he work nights, I didn't see him much. So that's when I said I was very independent. But that friend group kind of became like my family and you know, so you know, I'd spend a lot of time at my boy's house and you know, I was the kid, I was eating all their food, you know, so I was always the good friend that had the stock, you know, the sun kissed the M and M's, you know.
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Yeah.
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So that's really where I think I kind of shaped myself as far as my friends are really important to me.
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That's cool. That's awesome.
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So that it's kind of like a tight knit community like skateboarding. Like if you skate, you skate. I don't even know we're cool. Like we're in the same, you know.
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That's Rob. Any defining moments in high school that you think back that you're like, man, that kind of shifted who you were as a human or was this high school pretty, pretty even for you?
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It was, it was pretty mellow. It was good. I mean it wasn't, you know, the popular kid, nor did I want to be. But I mean, you know, I had some really good core friends and you know, that's was kind of my first experience with the church as well as we would go to a youth group and what they would do is they'd put out skate ramps and then they'd feed us pizza. And I'm like, that sounds like a good time. And then we would come in and we would talk. That's cool. So in that it was cool to see now to look back that that church was small. It was in a little shopping center, hot walk, the Chinese place. And now it's, you know, grown so much and they're doing some big things. But I was like, I remember going there when it was fold out chairs.
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Oh, that's cool. As you're like navigating high school, did you have a desire to go to college? Did you want to play sports? Like, were you just like, hey man, I'm going to start working, like, what, what was your plan when you were in high school for your life?
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That's a long story. Typical. College wasn't for me. I wasn't, I didn't do. I can't sit still well for very long. But I was big into music. So I don't know if I ever told you this, I actually went to school for kind of music for recording art. So now I wasn't a musician, but putting the bands onto tape. So like studio work, soundboards, consoles, SSLs, all that stuff. Mics, setting all that stuff up. So that was in Orlando. It was just a quick one year. It's like a tech school. So I have a degree.
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But I mean, man, I had zero clue.
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Yeah.
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And this is awesome because I was just talking with my son Hayden yesterday out in California and Nola and I were driving to Jiu Jitsu, so we called him and just kind of touching base, seeing how his day was, you know, just trying to catch up and find the windows with the time difference gaps and everything. Sure. And he was all excited because he told me that he just volunteered at his or he applied. He volunteered. He's going through the application process to be on the worship team at his church because that's what he wants to do. He wants to do something in music. Like he's been like writing songs and like he really likes to write music and so he wanted to serve at his church somehow on the worship team. And, you know, we were talking about how Cora has a really good voice and we're teasing all like, oh, you're gonna sing. And she's like, absolutely not. So we're like kind of playing around. I was like, well, what do you want to do on that? He's like, man, I don't know. He goes, I don't care. Maybe it's just like. He's like, I just want to learn about it. He goes, maybe it's just like setting up cameras or like all the music, like all the voice stuff or the audio, you know, like doing all that stuff. And then he was, you know, talking about. He's like, I still got to do research on, you know, what that would be like for college. It was just like, really cool. And then all of a sudden, now we're talking about this. So that's.
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B
It's a great school. It's called Full Sail in Orlando. Loved it. That's what they specialize in. Film, music, computer graphics, all that stuff.
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So some voice acting stuff as well. Yeah, they've got a. A division here in, in Dallas called Sound Labs, which is also a media tech institute.
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Dude, his research abilities on his phone.
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You just did that, didn't you?
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Yeah, I. Yeah, a little bit.
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Yeah.
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We've.
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We've got some relationships with him, but I was trying to figure out like, what. What all Full Sail offered that the Mediatek here doesn't. And, you know, the voiceover school is one of the things that's now become a. A massive thing. But Florida and Dallas have become hubs for talent because of those two schools. So, yeah, it's pretty rad.
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Dude, that's awesome. All right, so you do that and then what's the next step?
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B
So that was. I was in the music industry briefly. Had a song on the radio that I recorded, like immediately. So I was like, this is taking off really quick. Like, hey, I did it. And then I got exposed to some things I don't morally align with. That shocked me as a 1920 year old kid. Got it and I kind of freaked out. And this is in. This is right outside New York. So when you graduate school, it's like LA, New York. the time, you know, those were the big hubs. You know, Nashville's now grown to be, you know, big, big, big. So. So I moved up there with some buddies. You know, I had never been there. I'd never been north of North Carolina. I'm a Florida boy and I Moved up there and kind of, you know, we gave it a. We gave it a go. And that's how I fell into the bar business, because I, like, bailed on that. And then I just. I need a job. Right?
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Yeah.
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So I got involved. I was. Started being a bartender, then I came back to Jensen beach, and I end up bartending at the same place for 12 years.
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Dude, that's awesome. And then, like, so you're bartending the same place for 12 years, and then where are you at with, like, what are you wanting to do with business? Are you wanting to own a place?
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Like, so super creature habit, you know, very disciplined in my work, you know, my work life. But then just kind of maybe 29, 30 years old, I was like, there's something else for me. I don't know what it is, but this isn't. This isn't good enough for me. I'm appreciative. I did well. I was never struggling, but I was like, there's something else. And I was interested in business, but I didn't know, like, what specifically. But the only thing I knew was the bar and restaurant business. So I just kind of got a little motivation. And I never forget I had a couple buddies that I bartended with. We bartended with as a team together, the three of us, for 10 years. So that's rad. I remember I've just. I just got fired up one day and I had him. Invited him over, and I actually had someone offered me a job, like a desk job, and it paid well, you know, insurance, mom. A job mom and dad want me to have, you know, And I'm like, can I think about this? I'm like, this isn't really for me. I can't. I can't sit at a desk, as you know very well. So facts. So I was like, well, if I turn this down, that's going to be my agreement to myself is I'm going to do. I'm going to open up a business. So I had him over. And I wish this was on tape, my. My speech, but long story short, I want to open a restaurant. I'm going to do it. I'm going to be serious about this. If you guys are in, say yes. If not, be a man, leave. And there's no disrespect, you know, no disrespect. You know, if you're not all in, then it's fine. And that's kind of how this started to what is still open. It's called Lures Riverfront Restaurants in Jensen Beach. This would be their tenth year of being in business. I separated about eight and a half years into it. But yeah, it was me and a couple buddies, you know, started with calls of the city, can we do this? You know going, learning the lesson with no experience that how do we do this? You know, are we allowed to what, what spaces are open, what is that going to take? You know this place already has a build out, this place doesn't, you know and going through that whole experience from just nothing, just kind of figuring it out as we went, you know.
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A
Wow, that's crazy. And then you meet Nick.
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B
So I meet Nick. Jeez. Probably about see my neck about areas. Six, six or seven years into the business. I'm just worn out, man. You know, we're working seven days, you know. But that's to me I'm like, I'm locked in. This is what it takes.
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Yeah.
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You know, super blessed that we did very well. They're still doing very well. Just tired, you know, you're working, I know 100 hour weeks. And then I just pertain that feeling like crap to my lifestyle. And I was working out the gym next door. So back home, the original relive location, there's a gym next door. So I was working out there and then next door is relive. So I was like go get checked out. I've never had blood work in my life. It's like 37, never had blood work done. So you know, go eventually meet this guy after my review and all that stuff and as you know, just how great of a communicator and just, and I say, I always say the truth is said behind people's back, this is the most genuine kind man I've ever met in my life. Yeah, we won't go too much further in that because I know we'll both get upset but, but it's true. I mean if anyone's ever met him and just the eye contact, he's such a genuine kind person. So I was really touched by my experience and how it affected my life as far as starting HRT Peptides like you were talking about just, I would just call them hey Nick, what do I, what else do I need?
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You know, hey, what do you think about this? Let's do some. Yeah. And just getting an actual educated response from somebody is really nice. That's awesome. So we'll kind of pause there because then we'll go to Nick, same thing like where'd you grow up? What was childhood like? And we'll, well, we'll do Your story and tell you we're weaving together.
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C
I was born in Manchester, Connecticut. Grew up there for a couple of years. My dad worked for Pratt and Whitney, so that brought us eventually to Florida. From there we actually moved back to Connecticut and then came back to Florida. So you got a track there, but yeah, grew up in Jensen Beach, Florida, as I consider my Hometown. Spent about 30 of my 36 years there, so I consider that home. Grew up in that town, came back. They were building Jensen Beach High School at the time. It was a brand new school. So I was the first four year graduating class at that school, which was neat. Played baseball, football, basketball my entire life. So athlete sports, that's all I knew. Didn't have one day after school where I was not in a practice. Obviously some of those seasons overlap. So just busy, busy, busy. And that's pretty much where, you know, my love for health and wellness fell. Always trying to see what I could do to optimize, optimize the way that I feel, perform, you know, in the best of my ability to. So had a couple opportunities, you know, went through high school there. Grew up my mom and dad, have a little brother as well. Best parents in the world, in my opinion. Just very, very supportive family. Grew up in the Catholic church, so going to service, you know, every Sunday there. Kind of fell out of that routine getting into high school. Kind of those rebellion years of, hey, you know, this is kind of what I've always wanted. I've always done. Let me try something different. Right? Long story short, there, you know, had a couple opportunities to go and play college, college sports, specifically baseball and football. I was not a Division 1 athlete. I, you know, a lot of people, well, you know, I want to go play in, you know, in the league and professional. I was very realistic with myself, you know, so a lot of my opportunities that I had were out of state, you know, some Division 2 schools there. So went and, you know, took that, those visits with my mom and dad, visited a couple schools and kind of had to come home my senior year and have a difficult conversation with myself and then with my parents as well. We have something called Bright futures in Florida, which academically, if you perform academically, they will provide you with a scholarship for college, but you have to use that scholarship in the state of Florida. So had that difficult decision with myself and my parents, hey, was I gonna move to another state and chase my dreams of playing college football or stay in state, utilize that tuition that I had for my bright futures and pretty much figure out what I wanted to do from there. So decided to make that decision to stay in state my first, my freshman year. Went to Florida Gulf coast, which is in Fort Myers. Beautiful school. Met some great people there and still had that itch, still had that itch to play. I was missing. I was playing intramural, you know, basketball and football at the time. So I made the decision to transfer from Florida Gulf coast and Fort Myers to Florida Atlantic in Boca. I had a preferred walk on spot there for a football player. I was a corner in safety, so I was just quick. The white boy with long hair that could run for the most part.
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B
I'm glad he said it first.
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C
Pretty much from there. Didn't perform very, very well in that tryout and just decided to stick in Boca. I love the area. I met some really, really great people there. Finished my education with a criminal justice degree. Didn't really know what I wanted to do and always just came back to that health and wellness. I just love taking care of my body, trying to push myself to the max, do everything that I could do to optimize myself there. Which, you know, coming out of college with that degree, didn't utilize it at all. Took my first ever job out of college. I was cold calling janitor services. So that lasted a solid three days. Was taking a 45 minute trip up to Pompano from where we were at the time and just told like I hated going to work every day. And that is actually all three days. All three days. All three days just in front of a computer screen sitting. I would go home and I would still see the lines of the computer like in my vision. And I just knew, you know, I've always been one to, you know, never settle, you know, as you guys know. And I wanted to enjoy what I did for work. You know, I think it's Steve Jobs that says if you enjoy what you do, you'll never work a day in your life. Fell into a big, big motivational self help kind of situation where I actually had a buddy of mine. Podcasts were kind of picking up at that time, just starting off, had a buddy of mine introduce me to the Emma CEO project, Andy Frisella. So long story short, that helped me in my journey there of just figuring out, you know, that mental toughness side of hey, go do what you want to do, you know, it might be difficult, you know, at times. And then long story short, you know, I'm sitting there one day. Episode 190 March 17, 2017St Patty's Day Andy has a guest on named JP Danao. So full circle moment there. Obviously, when we. When we got to meet jp, you know, have him come into the clinic, I was geeking out. You know, he's telling me he's coming in and I'm all giddity and. But yeah, you were selling the Never Settle shirts. The American flag with the Never Settle.
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A
Yeah. You still have one of the OG One?
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C
Yes.
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A
Which is. I remember the day when I was in there for my nads bag. You had it. I was like. It took me a minute to, like, click that. Like, I was like, wait, hold on. How does he have this old shirt?
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C
Yeah, yeah.
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B
Actually brought it here. Can you sign it?
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C
Yeah. So, you know, going from there, that. That podcast helped turn my life around for the most part. I've never been exposed to anything like that in my life outside of, you know, your traditional, you know, football, basketball, coaching staffs. Obviously we had a lot of good coaches in the meantime there, but that really helped me, you know, pinpoint what I wanted to do in life. So I'm moving back home, back to Jensen beach from Boca at the time, kind of just trying to figure out what I wanted to do, you know, next in life. And there's an individual that grew up in our town that opened up, you know, this clinic and he had this gym attached from the outsiders. It can be a little intimidating, I would say, from the names that are, you know, going and training in this gym. But I'll never forget it was one Christmas Eve, and I believe it was on the news, and I saw a clip of this individual was able to. He bought a van for a single mother of three. Right. And I just, I gravitated to that instantly. And I said, I want to be able to do that when I'm older. So kind of taking everything that I learned from, you know, all these podcasts taking in, and I said, I have to put myself around like minded individuals. So I shot my shot. Good old Instagram, you know, another tool that has developed, you know, over time and shot this individual a message not thinking anything of it. And sure enough, he, you know, messaged me back, set up a time. I just, I just want to ask a couple questions, you know, how did you put yourself in the situation? How did you surround yourself with these type of people? He spent, you know, about 30 minutes with me. I got to come in, see the clinic, see the gym, learn about more of the clinic and what that's doing. I've again, always been interested in. In that type of stuff. So about a year later, they were Looking for, you know, a position and kind of just stuck my head in there and backtrack a little bit. He gave me a cell phone number, which probably was a mistake at the time. And I religiously texted him once a week for literally a year. Just checking in, just, you know, being known, hey, I'm here, I'm here, I'm ready, I'm ready.
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A
That's really smart.
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C
Yeah. So, yeah, a year later, you know, that opportunity presented itself, Came in absolutely green. Not knowing very, very much about that side of the business. Had a couple mentors there that I was able to learn from. Super grateful for those individuals. Started pretty much wasn't cold calling, but calling leads, trying to get them into the door. As far as, you know, interested in blood work and IVs, hormone therapy, advanced, you know, from that. I think I did that for about maybe three weeks before they actually brought me into the clinic and became their client advocate or patient coordinator, which is what we called it at the time. And from there just, you know, ran with it any opportunity that I had to learn about what we did. I wasn't listening to music in the gym anymore. It was podcast related to health and wellness, to comprehensive blood work. Just doing everything I could, being that sponge to, you know, learn as much as I could to be able to serve, you know, our patients coming in the door. And then, you know, eventually, a couple of years later, started to oversee that clinic. And that's where I met Johnny.
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A
Hey, that's awesome. Any questions? You got Lucas.
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D
It's interesting to see how the stories are kind of coming together. So I'm curious to see how you guys end up in Texas.
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B
We are, too.
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D
Yeah, no doubt about it.
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A
All right. You know, there's a lot of. A lot of little things from both stores that we can dive into. I'll probably come back to some of them because I definitely want us to keep moving the story forward where, you know, where you guys are at and how you guys meet and you like to what Lucas just said. I mean, I think we all see where it's going, but just from your guys's perspective, like, okay, hey, you guys meet. What's the relationship like? And then, like, how does the thought become a reality of what you guys came up with and then we're able to execute on to get you here.
- [31:22]
B
Sure. So, I mean, I think, you know a little bit of this, and I know you know a lot about this, but so coming back to meeting him and being a. I was his client, really, at the flagship home location to I was kind of entertaining other ideas outside the restaurant business. It was just my time, you know, super thankful, super blessed. It was just my time to go another avenue. And then I heard about Relive doing franchising, and I'm like, okay. And I remember. I think I asked you, who do I talk to? And Cam. So. And I would see him at the gym, and I feel like he was dodging me a little bit, you know, but one day I cornered him and I asked him about it, and he's like, yeah, I'm the guy. And I. I was like, well, let's talk. So we talked, had a great conversation, felt like we were a fit for each other, and gave him my story as far as my restaurant background, business experience, and is already a fan of the brand. You know, I was living it.
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A
Yeah.
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B
So then I was like, dang, you know, this. If I do this, he. I need him out there. You know, I don't know anything about. I know a little bit about business. A little bit. But he's. He's so great at what he does. I was like, man, I wonder if, you know, if he'd entertain this. And, you know, in our home area, the territory is not available because there's already a clinic there.
- [32:38]
A
Yeah.
- [32:39]
B
So I asked what was available that they thought would be strong. And they're like Scottsdale or Dallas, so both solid areas. Yeah, sure.
- [32:48]
A
I mean, Scottsdale, Arizona, is gorgeous.
- [32:51]
B
There's actually one opening up there. Geez, any day family out there, I.
- [32:56]
A
Might have to push them.
- [32:57]
B
Yeah, they're good people, too. They came and trained with us.
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A
So.
- [33:02]
B
I obviously have a better half they have to run this by. Hey, I know we're having a great life here in Florida, but would you consider. So she knew some people out here in Dallas, so I'd never been. We flew out here, had a great time, loved it. Immediately fell in love with the area. Come back. We're kind of going back and forth. We're talking, you know, our friendship was, like, based on, like, not just client and, you know, that way, but, you know, we were like. We'd buddied up. Yeah. People think that come to meet us now that, like, we're old friends. We're not, you know.
- [33:34]
A
Yeah.
- [33:34]
B
And then so we would start talking. Like, we would go to sushi place and kind of talk a little about business and stuff. And then I think when I actually signed, I don't think you were in at the moment. You were. You were. You were on the outside. And then I think the conversation came Back, Because I was. Now I was like, okay, well, I don't have Nick. I don't know. I'm going to figure it out. You know, I'm going to. I'm going to go for it. And then. And I think you came to me, or he would come to the restaurant. We would talk a little bit there. That's kind of how it all started. I'm like, hey, you know, did you ever think about doing a business? And he's like, I want to do relive. And I'm like, I do too, you know, so, like, well, let's link up and talk. So that's kind of going back, but that's how we initially started talking about business. And then. So I'm already signed for one, committed, you know, financially and legally to this. This location here. And then I was like, hey, we started talking again and go, well, if you come, I'll go buy two more. So then there's, you know, it's a bigger opportunity for both of us. So then wife, kid. One kid at the moment. And I was like, well, I guess, like, just come out. Just come out. Just come check it out. So the first time you came out was with me, not my wife. And night one was off to a bad start because their flights got delayed. There was no rental cars. It was a nightmare. And I'm like, this isn't gonna go well. And then. So we got through it, and the next day we just had a blast.
- [35:00]
C
Yeah.
- [35:01]
B
Yeah. We went to, like, the colony, and I think the Texas OU game was on. So we watched that and we just had a good time. And I'm assuming shortly after that, you were like, we're in. You know, we're in for the commitment. So that was kind of how it came to be this area. And flower mound just fell on us. People ask, how'd you find a flower mound? I didn't. My wife did. Based on where her friends lived.
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A
Oh, cool. Smart.
- [35:22]
B
Yeah. Oh, for sure.
- [35:24]
A
Yeah.
- [35:24]
B
I mean, we use a lot of data and research.
- [35:27]
A
Lots of data. Research metrics.
- [35:29]
B
There are.
- [35:29]
A
There are.
- [35:30]
B
There's a software that the franchise will use. It's called Buxton.
- [35:33]
A
Yeah, there's. I mean, but at the end of the day, if you know somebody in an area, that's the best data you can actually have of like, hey, what's the area like? And if you're talking to somebody and asking the right questions, that's data. So, yes, of course there's franchise software that you can use, but if you know somebody in an area I mean, why would you not gravitate towards that?
- [35:53]
C
Yep.
- [35:54]
A
Nick, what were your thoughts? I mean, you. You have a stable life.
- [35:58]
C
Yeah.
- [35:58]
A
Married with. With a young kid. And, you know, your buddy who, you know, you guys are. You guys are buds. But, I mean, like Johnny said, you guys hadn't grown up. It's not like you guys have been best friends for 10, 15 years.
- [36:12]
C
Absolutely.
- [36:13]
A
You know, another guy in your life who's a. Who's a friend is like, hey, let's move to Texas. You need to convince your wife to leave Florida and come start a business in Texas.
- [36:25]
D
Yeah, the guy that owns the bar.
- [36:27]
C
Yeah, yeah.
- [36:28]
D
The guy that owns the bar wants to get into trg.
- [36:31]
C
Okay. Yeah. And, you know, Johnny's restaurant back home is very, very well known, as far as the locals go. Yeah, we would probably eat there, no judgment. Probably about once a week. You know, my parents. It was just a consistent. And I'll never forget, we were actually. I was sitting at the outside picnic table when we had that initial conversation of, hey, you know, he knew that I wanted to open up my own business. I didn't necessarily know what that looked like at the time. I actually had a full business plan rolled out as far as, like, a recovery studio goes. The float tanks were super, super popular back then. Cold, plunging, which I'm still a huge component of red light therapy. So I put this whole business plan together for my own individual, you know, business. So, you know, he knew that I wanted to open up a business. That's kind of when I learned that Johnny was looking for, you know, his next opportunity in his venture. And it would just seem, you know, perfect. Perfect fit. You know, anyone that knows him, he's the most genuine person that I know. Always the hardest worker in the room, depending on what room he's in.
- [37:40]
B
Debatable.
- [37:41]
C
But. But I had, you know, a family. Right. And directly at that time, we were going through. We had our little one, Jordan, who at the time, I believe was two years old. Just about two years old. We went on vacation. We were out of town. Our kitchen flooded. So we had a full reblown, you know, restoration, I guess, if you want to call it that. So we got to pick out, you know, obviously, all of our finishes and pretty much made my wife, Jen, her dream, dream kitchen and, you know, living room. Right. So this is all at the same time of just finishing this up. You know, she loves the house. And then I, you know, come with this question of, hey, what do you think, you know, about, you know, moving to Texas? Her first answer, I won't say out loud here. It was more of the.
- [38:36]
A
We can fill in the blanks in our mind 1000%.
- [38:39]
C
Right. And, you know, at that time, there was a lot of things going on, you know, in my life as well, where I actually had another opportunity to head to the Orlando location for some steak in a clinic out there. And this was actually backed by a very, very well off individual. So, you know, sitting down, having me.
- [39:05]
B
It's not.
- [39:05]
C
It wasn't me sitting down, you know, having these conversations with my wife, you know, it was, hey, I'm looking for my next opportunity. And at that point, it was pretty much Orlando or Texas going through, you know, our. We made a list, obviously, and you know, just thinking where, you know, this individual very, very, you know, well off, you know, this is just one of 30 businesses that he owns. You know, the financial aspect is not a problem. But I had this thing in the back of my gut just telling me, you know, everyone performs on their backs against the wall kind of situation. And I knew coming to Texas, in that situation, we had no opportunity but to make it work.
- [39:50]
A
The ones that want it.
- [39:51]
C
Yeah, yeah.
- [39:52]
B
I said, not everybody.
- [39:53]
A
The ones that want it. And you knew that you wanted it.
- [39:58]
C
1,000.
- [39:58]
A
And so it's like when, you know, like, you know, it goes. I know you guys have heard me say this before. Like Jocko told me, like, discipline is rooted in the truth that we tell ourselves. Everybody wants to be an entrepreneur until they realize, like, the actual work that goes into it. But you already knew your ability, your skill sets and your actual desire. Talk is cheap. But you've already done it. You've done it. And so now you're like, oh, cool, if I've got a bet on myself, like, I'm going to go do it.
- [40:28]
B
Yep.
- [40:28]
A
That's awesome. And your wife had to have seen that in you. And she. And also, I mean, whether your spouse is actively working a business or not, if you have a good marriage, they're in the business with you.
- [40:40]
C
Absolutely. So 1000.
- [40:41]
A
She. She already sees your abilities, your fiance, you know, obviously, at the time. Yeah, at the time. Now. Now wife. Yes. But at the time you're feeling. Yes. And your fiance believed in. Well, which is very important. And so you're betting on yourself, you're betting on your spouses, your fiance, you're now betting on your business partner, and they're also betting on you guys. Oh, cool. You guys are taking us from Florida to Texas. There's a lot of pressure there.
- [41:09]
C
Yeah, 1,000% my parents, obviously with a newborn two year old at that time, my parents are five minutes down the street, her parents are eight minutes down the street. Right. So we're very family oriented. You know, date night whenever we wanted, you know, we'd have a grandparent at the house to watch, you know, Jojo and you know, coming to Texas, we didn't know anybody. So that was, that played a huge part in that, in that decision as well. But we got, we got Jen out here to come on that trip with us as well. And I mean it's hard not to like this place.
- [41:45]
A
Yeah.
- [41:45]
C
Never in my life thought I would leave south Florida ever, ever, ever.
- [41:48]
A
What month did you guys come? Do you remember the month?
- [41:52]
B
I think it was, it was, well, Texas ou. So what's.
- [41:57]
D
It's October.
- [41:57]
B
There you go.
- [41:58]
A
Oh yeah. So that's not, I mean you didn't come in July. It was, that might have been a different.
- [42:02]
B
No, but we did have a July experience as well.
- [42:05]
A
Yeah, but your first visit wasn't in July. That might have been slightly different.
- [42:09]
C
Yeah, yeah. But fell in love with the location, the area obviously. And you know, a lot of people will look back and have our conversations now and ask if I, if I miss Florida. I obviously do. You know, I grew up there. That's a huge part of me and my family is there as well. But the people, man, the people in Texas are just true, genuine, good hearted people. And I haven't found that, you know, anywhere else of, you know, having random conversations in the grocery store with someone that you don't know. That doesn't happen in south Florida. Yeah, it just doesn't.
- [42:41]
A
I remember when that happened for me in Mississippi, I was just like, this is crazy. I remember I called my parents, I was on a work trip, I'm a new guy in the SEAL teams, go to the grocery store and I, I remember this guy was like, hey, how are you doing today? I'm like, you talking to me? I thought he's talking to like a buddy. I was like, oh good sir. He's like, not from here, are you? I'm like, no sir. He's like, military? I'm like, yes sir. He's like, well, thank you for your service. And we just started talking and it was just like crazy. I just remember getting like back in the, like our government van and I was headed back to Shaw's and I called my dad. I'm like, this is a craziest thing ever. Yeah, because you just don't, that's not a common thing. And yeah, it's very common here in Texas, which is great. Okay, so first initial trips, you find the location, you're like, cool, this is the area we want to be. And then like, what are the next steps for you guys on the business?
- [43:36]
B
So obviously was signed up, signed up, committed financially, legally, then it's location. Right. So I'm still living in Florida at the time. We pretty much bought a house pretty quickly in Corinth. And so I'm going back and forth. I'm still owning and operating the restaurant I had. They don't know at the time. So I'm going back and forth and just meeting up with the realtor to, you know, to find a location and a couple options. And then the one that I made the move on, which you never saw, you know where it is now. But so we start negotiation, putting out Lois, you know, and then at the same time, I'm going back and forth training in Florida. So I'm flying to Texas to look at, to attack on some locations. But I'm training, like franchisee training. So I'm sitting through these awesome classes, super fun. And then I'm going up. This is going on for six months. And I've been part of lease negotiation before. Did it with the restaurant, you know. And then I'm in a class in Florida at the local relive and Stuart and I get a phone call, hey, it could be another three, four months. I'm like done. Put enough time into this. Let's attack on location B, which in hindsight is where it is now. What a blessing.
- [44:59]
A
Yes.
- [44:59]
B
Worked out way better. It's a great spot, you know, great plaza there. Very strong. That, that intersection there, I think is the busiest section. And in Flower Mound in Highland Village. Yeah, Justin. Justin. And Long Prairie there.
- [45:12]
A
Yeah.
- [45:13]
B
So then it, you know, goes working with architects, all that fun stuff, buying equipment, you know, the build out, that whole fun part, which I do like that, you know, I do like that part. Dealing with the financials, all that good stuff.
- [45:25]
A
How long did it take before. From that point until like doors open from.
- [45:31]
B
From construction starting to. Doors open. Four months. It's pretty quick. Yeah.
- [45:35]
A
That fast.
- [45:36]
B
Yeah, I think they. I think it was a 72 day build out. And of course, you know, things happen, you know, out of. It wasn't the contractor's fault, you know, just things happen permitting, you know, inspections, all that stuff. Yeah, I'd say about probably about four months. And then my wife, now wife at the time fiance, she had moved to Texas December 27th of 2023, I think 20, 24. 24, 24. Still involved with the restaurant. Still, still all in. And then it was like Christmas Day. We had packed up the house and to put it in a pod and it's the day after Christmas. We're like, let's just go for it. It was just a random, let's just drive out, just get you out there. And she already had a job lined up. She's a dental hygienist.
- [46:22]
A
Oh, awesome.
- [46:23]
B
So for probably six months, every two weeks I'd fly back and forth, two weeks, work on the restaurant, come here for about a week and just whatever I can do at the time, which isn't much, observe and whatever, critique, whatever building out stuff. And then somewhere along the line he moved out with his wife and Jordan, I don't know, maybe April. So he was living here at my house before I did.
- [46:49]
C
Yeah. Which again, super grateful, you know, they opened up the house. We wanted to take our time to kind of find the area that we wanted to be in and find the right place. And schooling obviously is very, very important for the little ones there. So. Yeah, we lived with Emily for say about.
- [47:05]
B
Yeah, it wasn't me, it was just.
- [47:06]
C
Her two and a half, three months before we actually purchased our house and moved out.
- [47:12]
A
That's crazy.
- [47:12]
C
Yeah.
- [47:14]
A
As Johnny's out here doing all these back and forth trips and everything, you're still working the clinic down in Florida. Do they know?
- [47:22]
C
Yeah.
- [47:22]
A
At what point did you have to tell them, like, hey guys, like we're opening a place out in Texas, like I'm going to be leaving here. And did that change the dynamic or were they like supportive since it's a franchise?
- [47:32]
B
That's a good question. Nick, why don't you.
- [47:35]
C
It changed the dynamic a little bit, to be honest. They were probably going ahead and, you know, seeing what they need to do to line up, you know, the next person in that spot. So I spent a little time there training those individuals, you know, my day to day and you know, just anyone that comes to our clinic, everything is experience based, you know, having the top experience possible. There's, you know, these clinics are popping up left and right, obviously, and I'm sure we'll get into that. But it's all about the experience for me. And I think every single one of our employees would be able to tell you the same thing. So, you know, we ended up parting ways there and then I was driving probably about an hour and a half, almost two hours to Orlando from where we were to help another relive Clinic get on their feet through some new ownership. So I spent probably about two, three months making that drive, you know, putting miles on the truck, hotel rooms, staying away again for my family for you know, two, three nights at a time just to help them. Obviously we needed that, you know, transition period, you know, financially as well. So that helped out. And then once we were ready to go here and, and we had, you know, the green light, we. We packed everything up ourselves, you know, had our farewells to our family and, and took the, drove the drive out here.
- [49:03]
A
So what was that drive like?
- [49:06]
C
It was long. It was long. We have two amazing friends that were actually our neighbors, Patrick and Ciara who they drove Gen's Jeep behind us. So we were able to. Me, Jen and Jordan drove the truck out here. They followed us which was obviously, you know, we're super, super grateful for them.
- [49:29]
B
Who actually he rode with me too.
- [49:32]
C
Made a trip with Johnny as well.
- [49:33]
B
My wife was already here so he rode out with me.
- [49:35]
C
Just amazing people.
- [49:36]
A
Just solid, human, amazing people.
- [49:38]
C
Man.
- [49:39]
B
I mean, I mean he's, he's okay. No, he's a great guy. He's a great guy.
- [49:43]
A
He's like a 20 plus something hour drive. I mean was it, I mean how.
- [49:47]
B
Long of a drive is about 19 if you hit, if you hammer it out. Like 19 plus we took the time.
- [49:53]
A
It out with a U haul is.
- [49:54]
C
Yeah, yeah, yeah. We took our time just with the little one in the back, you know. I think it took us about three days. We made a couple stops, stayed the night. But it was interesting. I mean I've never drove kind of cross country in that territory. So it was a cool drive. It was a long drive. A lot of good talks and opportunities and little moments that, that, that popped up in there. But it was good.
- [50:19]
A
That's cool.
- [50:19]
D
Yeah.
- [50:20]
A
So you get here to Texas and like what's the step? Like what are you guys doing now? I mean like at what point? It's like, okay, cool. Hey we, we're going to get to open the doors. How, like how, how early are you out here doing work that's kind of hard to see the fruits of at this point. Right.
- [50:40]
B
So I think the build out was finished just before we had to fly back to Florida for training.
- [50:46]
C
Yeah.
- [50:46]
B
So the build out is pretty quick. Yeah. 72 days on ballpark in here.
- [50:49]
A
That's crazy.
- [50:49]
B
That's quick.
- [50:50]
A
That's.
- [50:51]
B
It was already in the space was already pretty much fully demoed. I mean there was like some skin coat that needed to be chipped out. But it was pretty much wide open. And then we had, we flew the whole team back to Florida to do training, which was a great time. So in that meantime is when all the equipment started showing up. You know, the laser, the hydrafacial. I mean it's really not a lot of equipment. You've been in there, the chairs, all that stuff. So Emily, my wife was here. I think she pretty much set everything up and took every. On the pictures and the TVs. She's. She's a beast.
- [51:20]
A
That's awesome.
- [51:22]
B
So then when we came. So heading out for training when we came back, now it's go time. Like as a one week in. In clinic, like role playing and stuff to the next week is. It's time to go.
- [51:33]
A
That's awesome. So you, you found staff out here and then you fly them to Florida, train them up and. Okay.
- [51:41]
C
Which we didn't even have. The location wasn't ready when we were hiring. So we were at Marty B's coffee.
- [51:46]
B
Marty B's coffee was where we hired everybody.
- [51:48]
C
Every single interview.
- [51:49]
B
Most everybody except. Except for Max.
- [51:50]
C
Yeah.
- [51:51]
B
Cuz he was in Utah.
- [51:52]
A
Okay. Oh yeah, yeah. Okay. What, what was your process for finding the right person?
- [52:00]
B
We, we have a software we use Career Plug. Which uses what indeed.
- [52:05]
C
Pretty much plugged into like three, like.
- [52:07]
B
Three main websites in one and just put out an ad. And one of his many talents is he's a very good interviewer. He asked great questions. Once again, he's genuine. So I think even Mason, who you know, I remember the first time we interviewed him, I was like, he's so young. I mean, I was like. And he's like, no, this is the guy. And I'm like, okay, well boy was I wrong. Because he's great, you know?
- [52:29]
A
Yeah. Yeah. And that's hard to, to judge. I mean in this industry you feel like you probably need somebody older.
- [52:37]
B
Right.
- [52:38]
A
Experience. But in reality it's like no. I mean if the kid. And I say kid because he's a kid compared to me and he's young, but he's not a kid. He's. He's an adult. You know what I mean? He's a grown man who is educated and also extremely knowledgeable in your guys's industry. And not just from like a book. Book smart standpoint, but just from like understanding how to connect things back to the client and actually be able to communicate that to the client.
- [53:08]
C
Yeah.
- [53:09]
A
So okay, so you do this hiring process.
- [53:12]
C
A lot of interviews.
- [53:13]
A
A lot of interviews.
- [53:14]
C
I said I don't mind interviewing 100 people to find that one right person. So we did a lot. We kind of set it up where the first interview would be a teams call, just, you know, funneling through people. And then if we thought they would be a decent match, that's when we set that in person interview up.
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A
How many people do you think make the mistake that you guys didn't make by just. I think they'll be good enough because, like, what I just heard you say was very unique. I don't mind interviewing 100 people to find the right person.
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B
I said, that's tough sometimes. If you. With the first interview with whatever position it would have been in, it went really well. You're vibing. Because to me it's. And he's the same. It's not just are they passionate and knowledgeable about whatever position they applied for. I'm a vibes guy. I got it. We're gonna spend a lot of time together. We need to get along. Even if the first one was like, man, this person was great. Let's pull the plug. He'd be like, no. Or, you know, it's pulled ad down. Like, no, no, no, no. We got at least, you know, it's happened for a couple people where, you know, maybe it was Morgan. You know, I think we had a couple people who your wife is, you know.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Goes to see.
- [54:15]
A
Huge fan of.
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B
And, you know, I think we were ready to pull the trigger on a couple people. And then. No, no, no. Then we meet Morgan and you know how she's. She's amazing.
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A
Yeah. That's awesome. All right, so training. Bring them back. And then is the doors open or is it. You're like, what do you have? Like, how are you keeping them in gay. I mean, so you hire them without having a place to actually work out of. So you're.
- [54:40]
B
And paying, hiring and paying.
- [54:42]
A
Hiring and paying.
- [54:43]
B
So we would have some fun. You know, we obviously would do. We do marketing, you know, a lot of meta stuff. And then, you know, we play some games. You know, we did like team with me. Team with him. And we split the staff up and we go drive around town to businesses that, you know, we would think would work together with us. Gyms and sauna places, whatever. And we would just kind of. We kind of just make a little friendly competition and, you know, who had a better conversation or who got a good contact or whatever. So, you know, you know me enough to. I like to have fun. Yes. So. So a little friendly competition and just, you know, keep busy and learning a lot. A lot of a Lot of like role play situations for Mason, you know, the client advocate position, which obviously he's the best in the game at, but getting people down to do like a fake consult, you know, and trying to throw him some ringers and difficult questions. It's just to see how he would handle it, you know.
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A
So you guys are training them right away? Yeah. So was this taught to you guys from relive through the franchise training or is this just something that you guys both knew? Like, hey, to run a business you have to take it serious. Like you have to train your people, you have to role play. You have to use every single moment opportunity. You have to like get. Just to get your people engaged and where they need to be sure.
- [55:58]
B
I mean, obviously we have guidance from, from, from corporate. Yeah. And I did have experience in business, but not this type of business. It's super different. You know, I'm used to like, pace, pace, pace, go, go, go. Everything's time where this is. Like you said, it's experience. Right. That's what makes us different. Everybody else. That's why I knew how much I wanted him, because of the experience, you know, obviously. Was there a business dealing between a client, you know, and him? Of course there was. But it never felt that way to me. Me, because we clicked and we hit it off and I know how genuine he was. He wasn't trying to just sell me things, which I was trying to get better and my body better and my brain into my recovery better. So. And that's hard to teach. It's kind of, I mean, you know, you really can't teach that. I mean, being genuine is just kind of who you are as a person. So. So yeah, we had some guidance. Yeah. As far as recommended structure of the timeline of hiring to having the door open.
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A
Yeah. Nice. What was it like for your spouses and your fiance during this time?
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B
I mean, mine was pretty probably easy because, you know, she's such a. She's so awesome that she's used to me not being there because from my previous business, I was never there.
- [57:13]
A
Yeah.
- [57:14]
B
So. Not that she's, you know, I know she loves me, I love her and she's, you know, super supportive of me. But I think was probably easy for her because now, oh, I'm home at nights, you know. Oh, now I'm home on Sundays, you know. So by default you're going to see me, we're going to see each other more.
- [57:28]
A
That's cool.
- [57:29]
B
You know, the restaurant was open from 7 to 10, 7am 10pm Every day.
- [57:34]
A
Yeah.
- [57:34]
B
And the weekends later. So just by that change of pace, we get to spend a lot more time together.
- [57:38]
A
That's cool. What was it like for your wife with a little kid at this time?
- [57:42]
C
Transition.
- [57:43]
A
Yeah.
- [57:44]
C
Again, obviously, you know, both grandparents are still back in Florida, moving to a new state, a new town she had gone through. She had just actually started a new job herself a few months before us moving. So there was a lot going on to say the least. She works from home, so she's remote. So, you know, obviously, you know, she doesn't have so much interaction with people on a day to day basis. Right. So she's best mother in the world obviously, you know, and, and spending that time, you know, making sure she's doing everything she needs to do at work, but then also being able to provide to be the best mother and the best, you know, wife, you know, that she can. So it was definitely a transition and still working on that transition for her where it's kind of funny, you know, back home in Florida, I've, you know, didn't work as much as Johnny obviously. 24 7, 365 as far as the restaurant goes, but you know, six days a week, only having Sundays together, you know, as a family. And it was tough. It was tough. It still is tough. You know, we just added a second baby girl and got number three on the way. But she was always like the social butterfly. I say, you know, she could talk to a wall and have a full blown conversation. She's just super personal again, like Emily. So she had, you know, all the friends back home in Florida and was a social butterfly. As you know, I was working consistently and I didn't have many people, you know, back home. I grew up in that town. Obviously everyone usually, you know, leaves and then eventually comes back, so. And I was okay with that. I was perfectly fine with that. And then coming to Texas and I'm sure we'll get into that as well. Just the group of men that I'm surrounded by now, you know, it was a little bit difficult for her at first because she was used to being that social person with, with you know, the friends and the connections and kind of seeing roles kind of reverse where, you know, now I'm introducing her to all these people and you know, the wife of, of all these great brothers that we have. So, you know, a transition for sure and we're working on that and that's a day to day process and yeah, it is.
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D
Yeah.
- [60:06]
A
Yeah, it's really hard.
- [60:07]
C
Yep.
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A
I like, yeah, the reason why I Asked about how your fiance took it and how your wife is taking it and how they're adjusting is because a lot of people don't understand, like, that type of a transition and move. How stressful it can be. And you have to be very intentional with your communication and your alignment with the people in your life. And you also have to be very understanding of what they're going through, because it's very easy for us. And I'm speaking and I'm saying for us, because I know Lucas's story and you know my story, and from what you guys are sharing, it's very easy, and it can be a very dangerous, like, thing that we fall into of like, well, hey, I'm doing all of this for us. Just support me.
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B
Yeah.
- [60:58]
A
Like, hey, I know you're going through some stuff, but I'm doing this for us. And I mean, you can do that, but I ain't gonna work out is you're gonna damage your marriage. You're gonna damage that actual person, because then now you're just putting them in this box, and it's like, no, no, we have to be doing this together. And I love that both you guys said, like, like, hey, it was a transition, and, you know, they were navigating it, and I was navigating my stuff. But at the end of the day, you know, we have to navigate these things together with our spouses and then with our kids, and my kids are a lot older than your guys is, so you're not really having to navigate too much with your kids, because, I mean, your oldest doesn't really.
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C
Yeah.
- [61:38]
A
Comprehend what's going on. You know, I mean, she knows that she doesn't look Florida anymore, but we.
- [61:42]
C
Got cows and horses down the street. She loves it.
- [61:45]
A
Yeah. So she's living her best life.
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B
Yeah.
- [61:48]
A
But I just think it's really important that our listeners also remember, like, hey, you need to maintain. Sorry. You need to maintain alignment with your spouse, your. Your significant other. And then as you're going through these things. Yes. You're pursuing whatever it is you're pursuing to provide a better life for them. That's awesome. But you're doing. You have to be doing that together. There has to be communication. You have to be intentional with giving them some alone time, giving them time to go do their own thing and, you know, just, you know, really just maintaining that alignment because somebody can, you know, if you're. If you're not attentive to that, into their needs and making them feel like they're included in what they're doing, you can actually change that person, and then that person can start to shift and change, and then animosity grows and separation, and then all of a sudden you're like, wait, hold on. How's our marriage at this point now? Like, I've been doing all these things for us, and then there's resentment on your end and bitterness and everything. And it seems like you guys are doing a good job navigating that. And it's probably not perfect, which I've never met anybody that had that perfect transition, but knowing who you guys are, I think it's. You guys set a really good example of that. And I'm. I'm proud of you guys as men, as believers, for how you guys handle that. Yeah. And so what was like. What was the mo. You know, so you opened the doors. What was like a bunch of.
- [63:16]
B
Sure. So the soft opening was September 2024. Good start. You know, we have. We have some support. The Miller family was there and then was all set up for the grand opening, which was in October. So then we're promoting heavily. You know, once again, it's mostly on meta. Starts off pretty good, you know, September, October, we crushed it. The grand opening month was great. And then we got into November and December, and it was a little challenging, you know, because I'm used to. Used to my only past experience in business. We just hammered it from the get go. We were just blessed. We just. But it had to. Because how financially stretched we were. If we didn't hammer it from the get go, it was going to end before even got going. It was. It was. It was interesting. Was.
- [64:02]
A
Yeah.
- [64:03]
B
But I learned a lot from that, you know, so, you know, November, December, you know, January, you know, we're still. It's still kind of flat. It's not. It's not trending. And then. And then February, the infamous February of 2025 was. We took a big leap. And I remember I was stressed and, man, I'm just financially burdened. I mean, it. It was rough. I mean, I love the team. I believed in the team, the experience that they're given. And then February made a big jump. And that's. I remember. I've told the story. Maybe not to you, but, I mean, we. I. The month closed out and I just. I remember I cried to him in the parking lot and I was like, just thank God. You know, just overcome with emotion.
- [64:44]
A
What was. What was February like? Was there any defining thing or is it just a blessed month?
- [64:50]
B
I think it's just a blessed month. You Know, just, you know, we could schedule people. Are they going to show up? You know, that's, that's the name of the game right there. You know, when you schedule people all day, doesn't mean you're going to come in the door.
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A
Yeah.
- [65:00]
B
So that's really the challenge is getting people to come in the door. And I know that if they do, like whoever's had a consult with this guy, they know what it is. Yeah, you're going to get that, that experience that you're not going to get anywhere else. And even with Mason, you know, you're not going to get them two together as a team. You know how smart and genuine they both are. And they have, their styles are different, you know, but both are just going to be a top notch experience. So I know if you ever get to experience that, you don't need to be a client of ours, that's fine. But just to experience that, you know, that this is genuine and they know what they're talking about and that this isn't just. This isn't a transactual experience, you know, it's, you know, the family environment, which we push from day one, even in our interviews, is very important. And we like that with our clients as well, you know, because they become. How many great friends have we made? Better clients, you know?
- [65:49]
A
Yeah. That's awesome. How did you guys come across? Decided to train Jiu Jitsu because you've never changed Jiu Jitsu before.
- [65:55]
B
I think you talked about this a little bit.
- [65:57]
A
Yeah, I know this, but I want listeners and Lucas, first time story, so.
- [66:02]
B
And I just. He, he just looked it up. January 20th, just because I know, he just told me last week. Guy comes in, scheduled client blood work. He may be familiar with him. Ryan Kramer. Oh, yeah, AKA Kramer, comes in and he just has his vibe to him. Hey, I'm a vibes guy.
- [66:21]
C
Glowing too.
- [66:22]
B
I'm a vibes guy.
- [66:23]
A
Yeah, yeah.
- [66:24]
B
You know, so I don't really, you know, I'm not technically working there. I'm just kind of, you know, I'm kind of hanging out and he's got a vibe. We start talking and then I had been trying to. I wanted to try Jiu Jitsu years ago. Like, I remember watching like the first few FC's on my dad. My dad's like big into. Big into that and he loves like hoist. Gracie is like my dad's goat, so. And I could just never. Maybe I didn't have enough in it for me to go on my own. I wanted someone. Hey, will you come try with me and no one ever want to go.
- [66:51]
A
That's a common thing. I mean, that's actually more common than you would actually realize.
- [66:56]
B
So. So I'm pressing Max, our nurse.
- [66:58]
A
Okay.
- [66:59]
B
Who, you know.
- [66:59]
A
Yes.
- [67:01]
B
To try Jiu Jitsu with me. No, no, no. Max, strong believer. Great, great guy. And then Kramer comes in, he does blood work with Max, comes out, and I hear him. What are they talking about? Talking about a little Jesus. Talking about little Jiu Jitsu. So I, you know, I give Max hard time. I go, oh, now, now will you come try Jiu Jitsu with me? Because we're talking about Jesus. So Kramer's like, yeah, I'm, you know, teaching Thursday. Come down. So he agreed, and we went and tried it on Thursday. So my first ever roles. My first one was Kramer. My second one was Isaac. So I'm just blessed that I actually ever went back, you know.
- [67:35]
A
His first round was. Was Ryan Kramer. Second round with Isaac Tao Effa. That's. I mean, put. Those guys are so good and genuine, like in your brand new. Like, that's actually probably two of the best rounds you could have had.
- [67:53]
B
I wouldn't change it.
- [67:54]
A
Yeah. Because if you went against some other spastic white belt that you might have been like, dude, this sucks, or you get hurt. And that's why it's really smart. I love. That's the way how we do things at Double five. It's like, oh, cool, you're brand new.
- [68:07]
C
Cool.
- [68:08]
A
Yeah. You're gonna go roll with Isaac. You're gonna go roll with Kramer. You're gonna go. Was it a morning class you guys went to? Okay.
- [68:14]
B
Yep.
- [68:14]
A
Yeah, I've been to a few of those.
- [68:15]
B
Yeah. Formiga was actually out of town, I think. I think he was probably in Brazil.
- [68:19]
A
You hadn't even met.
- [68:20]
B
No.
- [68:20]
A
Oh, yeah. If it was January. January, yeah, that would have been. Well, he was always. Usually at the beginning. No.
- [68:26]
B
Oh, he might have been competing or something.
- [68:27]
A
He was in Europeans.
- [68:29]
B
I think you're right. Yes.
- [68:30]
A
Because that's about the time of the year, because he leaves as we're recording that. So as this is launched, Formiga is overseas getting ready to compete in European. So keep them in your prayers, but. Yes.
- [68:41]
B
Amen.
- [68:42]
A
He leaves tomorrow.
- [68:43]
B
Yeah. Well, I just saw him on Tuesday and he's gone. So he won't be there tomorrow, apparently.
- [68:47]
A
Be there tomorrow.
- [68:48]
C
So.
- [68:49]
B
Yeah, that was kind of the whole intro. And then I had, you know, so we're having a little faith talk in there. And I met, you know, Will. Will Tate and Great, great human.
- [68:58]
A
They've actually known each other for how long?
- [69:01]
D
20 something years.
- [69:02]
C
Oh, wow.
- [69:02]
A
Wow. Did not know that he managed the power team when. Yeah.
- [69:07]
D
Yeah.
- [69:07]
B
Oh, wow.
- [69:07]
D
Team Impact was. Yeah. That's how I've known Isaac for. Since Isaac was a kid.
- [69:12]
B
Oh, wow.
- [69:13]
D
Yeah, I was. I was tasked with keeping Isaac and his brothers out of trouble.
- [69:17]
B
Whenever we were on the way to.
- [69:18]
D
Go, man, I'm sure they would stuff them with me in the sound booth, and they're like, don't let him touch anything. Kill. Like, what? Where are you going? Yeah.
- [69:27]
B
So you guys are pretty much the same size.
- [69:29]
D
Yeah. Oh, really? When he was. Yeah, when he was 12 and I was 19. Yes. We were pretty much the same size. This is more accurate than I. That I would care to admit.
- [69:42]
A
Yeah.
- [69:42]
B
Yeah. So we were just. So I started training consistently, so I signed up pretty much immediately. And then, you know, when I were having faith talks and me and Nick were starting our conversation, get a little more curious, you know, because we both kind of have a similar background as far as Catholic, you know, once again, I mentioned I went to Catholic school, but. And then, you know, through high school, I was just distant. Youth group, you know, was involved in that. And then skateboarding. Punk rock. Nope.
- [70:11]
A
Yeah. Yeah, distant.
- [70:13]
B
And then, you know, even still, you know, the Lord blessed me with all my success at the restaurant. That's. Even without having really, you know, not. Not a close relationship, I would say. So me and him were kind of talking. Now I'm having conversations at Jiu jitsu, at formigas. And then I had been training Jiu Jitsu for probably months. And I'm like, I'm. I'm meeting some brothers, man, and we're having a good conversation. But I'm like, I need to get him. Like, he did. He wasn't interested in Jiu Jitsu. And I'm like, I need to get Nick to get locked in with these guys, too. So I think it was Will and Isaac and Kramer, like, would you guys come meet us at the clinic? Like, morning, grab some coffee and just, you know, talk some faith? And then they did. And then I was kind of the start of the whole men's group, which we do every Tuesday now. We host at the clinic. And just to shoot a number at you, I think. So it started with four or five. With us in the group chat alone. It's 32 guys. And that's not. Not everybody's in the group chat. So it's probably about people who have at least come once and been a Part of it. It's probably about 40 people.
- [71:15]
C
Yeah.
- [71:15]
B
And brothers.
- [71:17]
A
Yeah. That's so cool. That's awesome. That's the way it should be. So what was your first experience on the mats?
- [71:25]
C
It was tough. It's still stuff. But yeah, I mean, you know, we, we started that group and Johnny is just like meeting all these people and you know, you gotta meet him, you gotta meet him. And obviously gravitated to every single one of them. All amazing, amazing people. Might have took a couple weeks and.
- [71:46]
B
Then when we were pressing them hard.
- [71:47]
C
Especially Will, went in, you know, did my little intro class and got a little private with Firmega, which, yeah, we might have been a little jealous of.
- [71:56]
B
How do you get that? Yeah.
- [71:59]
C
Signed up, you know, that morning as well, so.
- [72:02]
A
That's awesome.
- [72:02]
C
Yeah.
- [72:04]
A
And you guys, what's. What's been your commitment to Jiu Jitsu? Are you okay? I'm gonna at least try to get once a week. Twice a week.
- [72:12]
B
I mean, I'm pretty, I'm pretty.
- [72:13]
A
Evenings are. The evenings are hard for you guys. Clinic and family life and everything. Have you guys done a good amount of evening classes classes at all or.
- [72:21]
B
No, I do, I'm religious. Three morning classes and then I'll do the open mat at Rob's place on Sundays. So I'm three to four minimum. Three, sometimes four. And then I'll link up with D. Rod Rodriguez sometimes for, you know, some, you know, quote unquote private.
- [72:39]
A
Yeah.
- [72:40]
B
So I'm like three to five times a week.
- [72:42]
A
That's all. That's a lot, man.
- [72:44]
C
Which is complete opposite on the fudge.
- [72:47]
A
Yeah. You're what, like twice?
- [72:49]
C
No, no.
- [72:51]
A
Once every two weeks.
- [72:52]
C
Yeah, about.
- [72:53]
A
Okay, cool.
- [72:54]
B
Yeah, it's.
- [72:54]
C
With baby number two. It's just. I was just gonna say schedule has been insane. Sleep is pretty much non existent. Even though I get a lot more than my wife, bless her soul. So yeah, I was. I started twice a week, fell into once a week and now I'm good if I make it once every two, three weeks.
- [73:12]
A
I mean, that's the season of your life. Yeah. I mean that's kind of what's gonna happen with people. And people have to understand that Jiu Jitsu is. This is a lot. It's a life long journey.
- [73:25]
B
Yeah.
- [73:25]
A
You know, if you love it, you can do it literally for the rest of your life.
- [73:28]
C
Yeah.
- [73:28]
A
And so, you know, and that's what Formiga is so good about, is. Sorry.
- [73:35]
B
Bless.
- [73:36]
A
Thank you. Formiga knows that.
- [73:37]
C
Yeah.
- [73:38]
A
And you know, there are other gyms where like the professors Will actually, like, make you feel bad and, you know, punish you if you're not in there. Like, I don't care. You gotta be here no matter what. This should be a priority. You're like, that's a great way to lose a student. Yeah, it's a really good way to remind me of, like, oh, I'm. No, actually, I'm a grown man. I'm gonna make my choices for me because Just so good about it. Like, hey, get in when you can. That's the thing I also like about Farmiga is because he knows people have lives and families and businesses. There's been times where I've, you know, I didn't show up because I was going to be late. And I told him and he told me. He's like, hey, I don't care if you are only able to come for 15 minutes. Come for 15 minutes, get a couple rounds in, and then I and a few other people will stay after and enroll indoor train with you. He goes, come no matter what. And for me, when he. When I found out that that was a genuine thing, I was like, okay, one. There's just something different about them. But. And then I was like, oh, this makes Jiu Jitsu fun.
- [74:41]
B
Yeah.
- [74:41]
A
Because I'm not stressed about showing up late because I. I don't. I know none of us at this table is going to be like, oh, all right, cool. I'm 30 minutes late. No big deal. I would rather just not go than be that late.
- [74:53]
B
For sure.
- [74:54]
A
But for me, it was like, no, do not come. Do not not come because you're gonna be late. Like, you be here. Yes, sir.
- [75:01]
C
Yeah.
- [75:03]
A
So, I mean, Johnny, you're just on the war path training right now.
- [75:07]
B
Well, I was out for a couple months.
- [75:09]
A
Well, yeah, I mean, making up some time.
- [75:11]
B
Yeah, I still went.
- [75:12]
A
Yep.
- [75:12]
B
Didn't miss. I missed one class observing when my boot and crutches. And that was, I think, when I had my surgery.
- [75:19]
A
That's awesome. And so since, you know, just training at Double Five, what was the transition like, you know, from, you know, your guys's Catholic upraising to, okay, cool, Jesus and Jiu Jitsu, you're around the guys. You guys are doing these men's group Bible studies at your location. You know, that's a big thing for a lot of the guys at Double five under Farmiga, and then to, hey, let's go try out the village.
- [75:51]
B
So had been training there for however long at the time, and I had never seen him at the time. Yeah, that's got this Guy Matt Chandler shows up to the morning class. I mean, who's this guy?
- [76:01]
A
He's just skinny.
- [76:02]
B
Like, I'm already. Yeah, I'm thinking I'm already in. Like, these are my. These are my boys. Like, and who's. Who? They're dapping up this guy. I'm like, I don't even know who he is. And then.
- [76:11]
A
And then.
- [76:12]
B
And then he'll laugh at that. And then.
- [76:16]
D
Such a skateboarder thing to do.
- [76:18]
C
Yeah.
- [76:18]
B
Yeah.
- [76:20]
D
So those are my friends.
- [76:21]
B
I never really grew up. Yeah. How'd you know that? Dap so well. So I think I rolled with them. And then we have. Me and him have the joke about whatever. I think the first time we roll, I passed him and I'm in. I have him in slide control. And he goes, all right, Johnny, what are you gonna do? I go, I don't know. But I got here, so I don't.
- [76:40]
A
Hey, everybody, look what I did. Yeah.
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B
Yeah. So we still joke about that to this day, but. And I think I was sitting. Sitting one out with Formiga, and they're like, do you know who that is? And I'm like, matt, the blue belt. And then I think he already knew who he was. I had no clue. And then I was going to acc. Argyle Community Church at the time, and then he started going the Village, and he kept trying to get me to go there, but we were pretty happy at Argyle. Pastor Tim's great. I do love him. Tim Bach. And then eventually I went and I kept going back. I never went back to acc. No disrespect. No, I mean, I just really like Chandler.
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A
There's a lot of really good churches. There's a lot of really good churches in the area. You know, Lucas has this church. I go to Milestone. You guys go to the Village. I know there's a lot of other really good churches. It's like, hey, find a church that you can connect with. It's like, where. Where is your soul being fed? And that's where you should be for sure. Yeah. That's awesome. And, you know, also, it's. You know, it's got to be. It's got to be easier to connect with going to the Village when you're rolling with the pastor.
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B
Right.
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A
When you're training Jiu jitsu with the.
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B
Pastor, because it feels like it's just one of us. Right? You know what I mean? Yeah, I know. You do the same, you know? Yeah, we've. We've rolled Jiu jitsu. We have. We have rolled before. We have rolled before, about a long time ago.
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D
Oh, yeah, yeah. It was months ago.
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B
Yeah.
- [78:06]
D
The last time I went.
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A
We're gonna change that. Right?
- [78:10]
D
We're one thing at a time. We're gonna get everybody in my family over the flu, and then we'll figure out what Jiu Jitsu looks like in 2026.
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A
Yeah, we gotta make health a priority. And, you know, and that's another thing is, you know, health is such a. A big thing for all of. Of us and our families. And, you know, you also have to, you know, with Jiu Jitsu, just like business, you have to give yourself a little bit of grace. It's okay if you can't show up to Jiu Jitsu every day, but the thing is with business, you have to show up every day.
- [78:40]
C
Absolutely.
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A
And so you guys are building the business. Like, what I mean, so you meet Kramer. A few of us from Double Five start rolling in there. You know, like I said, I had an incredible experience with you guys. So did my wife, my family, and, you know, all of our friends and family that we've referred to you guys. I was extremely impressed by the blood work. Like, I had never had that thorough of a blood panel ever done before.
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C
Yeah.
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A
And is that just, like, the baseline for relive? Like, is that your guys's standard? And is that not common with a lot of other clinics out there? Because I know there's a bunch of them popping up all over.
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C
Sure, yeah.
- [79:20]
D
Yeah, I've heard about relive. Right. I've not had the experience. You guys have talked a lot about the experience, so kind of walk us through what that's like, what you guys do there. And, you know, JP's talked a lot.
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C
About the blood panel. So.
- [79:33]
D
So what is that? Like, if I'm coming in as a. As a new customer, give me the. The mock experience. What am I going to get?
- [79:38]
C
You know, so you're coming in, you sit down. All of our patients, all of our clients, no matter what service you're coming in for, sits down with our client advocate. So no matter if you're coming in for aesthetic services, blood work, and iv, you have that experience of actually sitting down with the client advocate. We discuss, you know, why are you here? You know, what are your goals? What are you looking to accomplish? And from there, we can kind of, you know, create a game plan for you moving forward. Right. So even as simple as an iv, right? A lot of these clinics, you know, you have an iv, I'll talk to patients, you know, they go down to, you know, an IV spot down the road and usually there's a big TV when you walk in with all of their different IVs, you know, on the TV and, oh, you know, energy bag looks good. I'm a little, you know, low on energy. So they pick the IV bag, they have no idea what's in it, how it's going to benefit them. So, you know, coming in, setting that expectation, hey, I'm, you know, my energy has been a little bit low, you know, not feeling like I normally usually felt. That gives us an opportunity to dig a little bit deeper. We're all about digging deeper, finding the root cause of an issue to provide a solution for that root cause compared to just throwing a medication out of symptom.
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D
Yeah.
- [80:54]
C
So as simple as, you know, coming in for an energy iv, you know, that opens up that door for us. Well, hey, you know, we have the opportunity to dig a little bit deeper. Is this IV bag gonna be beneficial for you? Sure, it could be a short term solution, but if you're interested in digging a little bit deeper and finding out why your energy is always low, we have this comprehensive blood work panel that we have. And as JP mentioned, we do a very, very comprehensive blood work. And that's usually the first question that I'll ask a patient when we're sitting down. Have you had comprehensive blood work before? A lot of them will say yes, and they have no idea what the word comprehensive means. Everyone is used to your standard, you know, 20, 25 biomarker panel that usually you run with your primary care obgyn, whoever that physician might be. So our comprehensive panel is about 62 biomarkers, which might not mean much for, you know, the standard person, but it's about five to six pages worth of blood work where a lot of these individuals walk out from like a primary care. It's half a page, maybe a full page worth of blood work. And then from there, you know, if we do draw labs that at that time we usually bring, bring you back about a week later, that's when you'll actually review those labs with our physician who literally spends an hour with you, which is unheard of. There's, there's no clinic out there that you are able to sit down with, with a physician, have a true genuine conversation, create a relationship with, for 60 Minutes. So at that time she'll obviously review medical history. She will go over that blood work line by line, biomarker after biomarker, explain what it means, explain, you know, if we can have a little improvement in that area so she'll go over that. She'll go over any symptoms that you're experiencing, any goals that you have, so she can truly customize a protocol for you at that time. And I always love to mention to all of our patients, we're a clinic that treats blood work and symptoms. A lot of these, you know, primary cares or other hormone clinics, you know, immense testosterone range on a standard blood work is anywhere from about nowadays, I think, 150200 ish to 700. So you come in and you're 225, you fall within that. That panel or that, that range, you're low, normal, but everything's good because you're within that range. And you can't tell me an individual at 225 and on therapy at 800, you know, 900 is going to feel the same. It's just not. It doesn't work that way.
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A
Well, not even close. Like, we're not. And the thing that I learned is it also depends on the individual, your background, your life. Because your physician said something to me that no other doctor had said to me since I've been on TRT, since I was 30, so almost 13 years. She said, yes, these ranges that we want men to be in are ideal. However, she goes, given your background and the life you lived, that would be low for you.
- [84:00]
C
Yeah, absolutely.
- [84:01]
A
Nobody had ever told me that. Because all these years that I'm like, okay, I gotta be in this range. Okay, I'm here. And that's all they would put me at. And I'm telling the clinics and these physicians and these different people, like, I still feel like crap. Like, I feel better than when I was at.
- [84:18]
C
Sure.
- [84:19]
A
You know, 180. Yeah, I feel better than when I was at 80, you know, seven.
- [84:24]
B
Yeah.
- [84:24]
A
But this is, like, pretty crappy. And then she was like, yeah, no kidding. Because of the life you lived in the SEAL teams and just the sleep cycles and the stress and the, you know, the fatigue to your body and the damn, like, all those things. She goes, no. She's like, this is where I want you. And she's like, we can maintain this for the rest of your life at a very healthy state, like longevity. We can maintain that. And I was like, oh, I love this woman.
- [84:53]
C
You have to treat the symptoms. You have to treat the symptoms. And the blood work, very, very important. And just a lot of people don't do that. Right. So, you know, she'll pretty much make her recommendations, and then either she will come sit down with myself or Mason, who's Our client advocate there at the, at the clinic, you know, go over that list of recommendations and then Mason or myself will come in, sit down with the patient and pretty much go over those options and build that program out for you. Right. Everyone has different financial, you know, means and what their goals are. So, you know, hormones, I always tell people, are your foundation. Right? If we're building a house, we want to build that house on the strongest foundation to make sure that house doesn't crumble. That's your hormones. You know, as a female, as a male, we have to get those hormones optimized before we can do anything else. So we'll put that program together for you. If that looks like a prescription, you know, a TRT or testosterone progesterone, estradiol for females, whatever that might look like. And then supplementation is huge as well. There's a lot of these symptoms that patients are coming in that we have supplements to be able to aid in these symptoms and treat. And a lot of the time when we're able to pair that with a HRT therapy with the supplementation and then you add the peptides and all the amazing stuff that we have that we have access to, it's just night and day. It's a game changer for all of our patients. And, you know, it's all about the experience again. And, you know, patients start feeling better, really having these conversations with patients coming in, you know, and that might look a little different for the patient. Right. Someone might take, you know, two, three months to start feeling better. Especially the females. Their body's super complex, so it might be, you know, start here, let's do some follow up blood work, you know, make an adjustment here, follow up blood work until we get, you know, where we need to go. So, you know, that could be two months, that could be three, four months down the road for usually like the females. But having those conversations with these patients coming in the door and, you know, just hearing their stories of, you know, it's life changing, you know, they're able to, you know, have the energy, they're able to wake up, they're able to have the energy to go outside and play with their kids, which they never thought they'd do. Medical weight loss, you know, done correctly with correct dosing protocols and nutrition on top of that, it's changing people's lives. And just to have those conversations, those reminders that I need, because we're in this, you know, day to day, we kind of, and I tell my staff this all the time, you know, we're very, very fortunate to do what we do with the people that we get to do it with. And sometimes we can forget, you know, the impact that we're having on a lot of our patients life. So just having those, you know, those stories and patients coming in and seeing those results that they have, I wouldn't change it for the world.
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A
And just for our listeners also as well, like hopefully if you have questions, you reach out to Nick and Johnny at Relive Health. I did my consultation over the phone because I'm busy, I wasn't able to be at the clinic. And so they also have the flexibility to do these things remote as well, correct?
- [87:58]
C
Yeah, absolutely.
- [87:59]
A
And so obviously depending on where you live and you know, with all the legal parameters, but you don't have to live in Flower Mound for Nick and Johnny to take care of you, which is awesome.
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C
Follow up blood work. I can't say that word enough. Where, you know, a lot of these clinics will start you off on a protocol and then your next blood work is six months a year down the road. That blows my mind that that even happens. We've had patients come in that gets prescriptions from other places without even having blood work, which is wild. You know, the way that we have everything set up is once our patients move forward and they start the program with us, we do initial 6 week follow up blood work that's covered, that we cover, we cover the cost of that first one for you guys. It's probably going to be the most important blood work that we do. You know, let's see where those levels are in the serum as far as the hormones go. Some other biomarkers, obviously, obviously that we look at. And again, coming back to symptoms, how are you feeling? You know, it's been six weeks since you've been on your protocol. What changes have you seen? What changes have you have that you haven't seen? Let's make some, you know, pivots and a couple, couple areas here to get you to that optimal level. And then, you know, once everything's usually, you know, dialed in, we do blood work, follow up blood work every three months. So after that six weeks, we follow up another panel in three, three to four months. We, you know, we practice preventative care. Right? It's preventative care and not reactive care. We want to find these issues, you know, if anything is arising, we want to find those before they become a problem. And a lot of these clinics will just not follow up, you know, with the follow up blood work. They have your money, you know, they got you as a patient and all they're doing is, you know, sending that next order out, sending that next order disorder out. And you know, especially in your case, you know, if you're not doing follow up blood work, we don't know, we have no data, we have no interaction with you sitting down with the, with the physician again to make those adjustments. So that follow up blood work's very, very, very important. It's a part of the game. It's, it's, it's how it should be done. You know, it's. I don't know how these other clinics operate and have a business and don't provide the experience that we do. It doesn't make sense to me because I think, you know, everyone should have that experience. And again, that's just not the case. It doesn't happen.
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A
Well, yeah, I mean, you guys are like the Ritz Carlton, you know, like, I mean, you guys provide the best experience and you know, there's nothing that you guys take for granted and you guys treat your customers the way every business should treat their customers. And it's just like you said, it's just crazy that people aren't doing that. What are some of the other services. I'm sorry, did answer your question or.
- [90:44]
D
Any other questions that got us started. There's a lot that I'm really curious about in this whole process though.
- [90:51]
C
Right.
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D
Like certainly, you know, the, to answer JP's questions, like wondering what the services and things are and what kind of stuff you guys offer. You know, because there are different aspects of this. Right. You mentioned there's, there's an aesthetic aspect. There are, there's some things that have to do with, you know, people's individual goals. Right. Whether it is like just to get healthy. Like I'm, I'm thinking in terms of, you know, my, my folks, particularly my dad. Right. Multiple back surgeries had in 22. Yeah. And at the beginning of 22, ended up in the hospital with two different COVID variants, plus whooping cough and double pneumonia. Ended up on, you know, some, some post chemo treatments and the high dose of prednisone to just kind of like wipe his immune system out to help him start from scratch because everything had been like so rough. Was on oxygen for about nine months after living a really active life prior to that.
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C
Yeah.
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D
And since then, you know, just a lot of health up and downs. Emergency quintuple bypass in September and now trying to figure out, after having lived a relatively healthy life the last three years for him have been Incredibly rough and during that time missed out on a lot of things with grandbabies and stuff like that, which, you know, that was his dream, is to just go and play with the grandkids. And it seems like every time he's getting close, there's something else that's happening, but being unclear of, you know, what, what his future can actually be from a health perspective because physicians are so vague, you know, he's bouncing around from, from one to another. Doesn't seem to be getting a lot of, a lot of straight answers. And I think for some people, what you guys do at Relive seems, seems like it is so far outside of the norm of the, the, the kind of business of medicine right within the United States that it's, it's like, ah, you know what? I don't know if I'm going to try something that's, you know, maybe that, that risky because for some people, like getting outside of this comfort zone of where they, they've been in what the physicians have told him and all that seems like a, a massive thing. And yet there are other people, like in my dad's case, where he's just looking for something that can give him some clarity because his doctors aren't talking to one another. Well, you know, and one of them will not to, you know, violate hip or anything, but then he's in the same situation that several of the people in my congregation and other friends that I have that are, you know, in that same age bracket is, you know, a doctor prescribes him something and the other doctor is like, well, why would he put you on this? And now all of a sudden you've got experts that are, that are going at it and none of them are really advocating for, for the patient. So if, if somebody like my dad comes into the office, which I'm recommending for him to do, right, to, to just check some things out, you know, where you have someone who is, who's a little timid, but their whole intention of getting here is, hey, you know what? I want to play with my grandkids. Yeah. If, if I've only got, you know, I had quintuple bypass. The docs are telling me like, maybe 20 years, maybe 30 years. Like, who knows when these valves are going to wear out and, and when these bypasses are going to, are going to go, you know, what's, what's a person like that who's coming in that just wants to live? You know, their goals are obviously very different than the guy that comes in. It's like, I got bicep, tendonitis. I want to keep working out until my 60s. You know, what do I need to do? Yeah, right. So how do you. How do you put somebody like that's mind at ease whenever they're coming in?
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C
Yeah, that's a good question. First off, I think that you have to be your own advocate with. With all of the different, you know, perspectives and medical doctors out there. You know, you mentioned none of them are on the same page. Right. You have to do your due diligence to, you know, there's plenty of research out there, you know, diving into that personally, but relating that back into the clinic of just having them come in, sit down for that initial consult and see, you know, depending on the situation, see what we can do that would be able to benefit you. Right. We don't practice medicine outside of our scope. We're, you know, very, very good at what we do, but we stick to what we know. And I think that's where, you know, some of these clinics and other physicians might get, you know, stuck up, where, you know, they're kind of, you know, trying to bridge the gap between, you know, two different situations. So we definitely want to stay in the scope of what we do. But having that conversation, starting with something as easy as a comprehensive blood work, you know, starting from the bottom and kind of working your way up there, sitting down with the physician. Amy is our physician at the clinic. She's amazing. I can't say enough good things about all of our staff there, but she does a phenomenal job of allowing you to create that relationship when you go in and sit down for that blood work review. Don't get me wrong, it can be a little. We have patients coming in, and they're super nervous. This is a huge step that they're taking in their health journey to be able to. To open up and be vulnerable and say, hey, yeah, I do suffer with this. And Amy does a phenomenal job creating a comfortable environment, allowing those patients to open up and express what they need to express and go over all the symptoms. She's a female, obviously, and we have guys on trt and some guys aren't comfortable coming in and talking about maybe an ED issue that they're having. But she does such a good, great job of creating that environment, you know, being just open and honest with the patient. And, you know, if it's outside of her scope, she will tell you that. And, you know, we'll work with you to find the best, you know, case to move forward. You know, she has a lot of great resources that, you know, she has connections with other physicians, depending on what's going on that she'll be able to help refer out to. So really just starting with that, that comprehensive blood work and having that sit down with her and, you know, getting the ball rolling and just getting information and data for you to be able to build off of.
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A
So, yeah, I know for me, it was just an experience unlike I'd ever had. And it just gives you more knowledge to make good decisions. You know, knowledge is not power. The application of knowledge allows you to do powerful things. And so if you don't have education, if you don't, I'm sorry, if you're not, if you don't have knowledge, if you're not being educated by your doctors, by your clinic, or doing it yourself, like, you're never gonna be able to make good decisions. And that's the thing that I really liked about Relive and the experience I've had with you guys is, hey, here's all the information. Here's our suggestions from the physician. And then it was like, I hang up the phone and I get a missed call and I was like. And then it was, it was Mason. I was like, holy crap. Like, this is crazy. That, that fast of a follow up and then him being able, like, cool, let's talk through it, and then was able to come in and walk through stuff. And it's just, it's an experience that's, it's pretty incredible. But what I also like is all the other services that you guys provide as well. You're not just, it's not just tier, tier and hrt, like you said, you have some, you know, healthy, controlled medical weight loss options. You guys have different supplements and then you guys have different treatments as well, correct?
- [98:47]
C
Yeah, absolutely. You know, obviously the hormone therapy is how the business started. So on top of that, we do medical weight loss. Obviously, it's a very popular, you know, topic right now. And again, just knowing that you have a physician that knows what they're doing is so, so important, especially with, you know, hormone therapy. Medical weight loss is becoming more and more popular nowadays. You know, I almost feel like these clinics are popping up left and right, which is a good thing, right where, you know, it's becoming more mainstream, you know, quote unquote, medicine nowadays. But on the flip side of that, just as a patient, do your due diligence to vet these people, these clinics, these physicians, because they're popping these things up left and right and they're hiring whoever they can hire to get the doors open. And you're going in and you're having a consult or a blood worker with a review, with a clinician that has been doing this for six months. That's going to be a completely different experience and probably completely different protocol than, you know, sitting down with a physician like Amy, who has, you know, six, seven, eight years experience doing this and personal experience herself. So, you know, I'm not saying that you have to come to relive health to, you know, to become optimized at all and feel better, but just make sure that you guys are doing your due diligence to, you know, vet these places in these physicians that are, you know, providing the care for you.
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A
Yeah, you guys definitely have the experience. You definitely have that. And it's. It's very apparent, and I think that's just a really important thing as well, is like, yeah, hey, take. Take ownership over your health. Advocate for yourself. But you also have to be able to do that research.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Be like, all right, I'm dig into these things. Hey, cool. Like, I would be very wary of going to a place that just popped up. And, you know, if you're talking to them, like, oh, you know, well, this is my experience. And it's like, okay, well, who's the doctors and physicians behind this? And if they can't give you their background and how long they've been doing it, like, it should be a red flag.
- [100:55]
C
Yeah, I've heard some horror stories, especially the medical weight loss. You know, you have tirzepatide, you have semi glutide, Very, very popular. I've had patients come in and tell me experiences of, you know, going to nail salons and literally picking up preloaded syringes that they give them in a baggie with no prescription, you know, with their name on it. It's. It's. It's wild. It's happening. It's out there. So, again, just making sure, you know, it's a qualified physician, it's a qualified, you know, you know, clinic is so, so important. And then to kind of bounce back to your original question there, you know, medical weight loss is a big one. We do peptide therapy, which obviously, within the past, you know, 18 months, like you mentioned, is becoming more and more popular. It's been around forever. A lot of these peptides that a lot of people are talking about now have been around for a very, very long time. But the popularity, you know, is skyrocketing now. So we work with a compounding pharmacy out of Houston that is, in my opinion, one of the best in the country as far as peptides go. They make some really unique blends. Their turnaround time is great for our patients. Again, experience. And, you know, the pharmacy is not our business, but it's a part of our business. So, you know, we have to vet these pharmacies to make sure that they're upholding their side, to be able to provide that experience that, you know, these patients don't care or don't know a lot of the time where the, where the medication's coming from.
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A
Yeah.
- [102:24]
C
They know if we tell them, you know, that medication is going to be there from, you know, five to six business days, and our pharmacy is taking a little bit longer. That's on us. That's not on them. So peptide therapy. And then we have the whole aesthetic side of the business as well. So anything from hydrafacials, customized facials, VI peels, laser hair removal, laser facials, microneedling, stem cell exosomes.
- [102:50]
D
I'm super fascinated by micro needling because it's. It's something that has, in, like, the physical therapy world is this sort of gray area treatment that there's a lot of people that are, like, all in on micro needling because they were taught it, they love it, and then there are other people that is like microneedling is absolute snake oil.
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C
Yeah.
- [103:15]
D
Right. So real quick, the. The short version of the process of micro needling. And then why? Because I've. I've had it done. I. I thought it was an amazing treatment. Yeah, right. It's. It's really weird. So talk a little bit about the treatment and what kind of effects you guys have seen from it.
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A
Sure.
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B
We might be talking about two different microneedling.
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D
Okay, cool.
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A
Yes.
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B
So this microneedling is like a. Like a facial treatment for, like, fine lines and wrinkles, like scar stuff like that.
- [103:45]
D
Yeah.
- [103:45]
B
So it's a. The skin stylus, the pen.
- [103:48]
D
Okay.
- [103:49]
B
And I don't want to butcher it, but it's kind of like a tattoo gun almost.
- [103:53]
C
Yeah. I would say closest thing to a controlled wound.
- [103:57]
D
Gotcha.
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B
And then we'll utilize PRP and exosomes.
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C
And.
- [104:03]
B
Whatever else we made, but that's. That's what our treatment's for. So mostly a facial thing.
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D
Okay.
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A
Yeah.
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B
It's not like.
- [104:08]
D
This is different. Yeah.
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B
It's not like dry needling or anything like that. And then Morgan, our esthetician laser tech, who's just awesome at what she does and kind of to touch on how all of our services work together, she's really curious and knowledgeable about hormones and stuff, too. So she could come in for a facial treatment, and she can recognize that something on your face is due to, like, a hormonal imbalance. Then we can. Then she can guide you to whatever. Back to the blood work, right?
- [104:33]
D
That's right.
- [104:33]
B
So they all kind of work together. And she's just. She is the best at esthetician laser tech in Dallas.
- [104:41]
C
As far as on the aesthetic side with, like, Morgan, she has a machine that's called the Visia scan. So I like to call that the blood work for the face. Right. So that's a tool that she's able to utilize for a lot of our aesthetic patients that come in. Pretty much, you put your face in this. It uses AI technology. Takes three different pictures, side, side, and front. And it points out fine lines and wrinkles, bacteria on the face, pore size. It'll give you your true skin age. So it's another tool that we're able to utilize to make sure we're pairing the proper treatment for what your goals are and what this analysis is coming out, you know, saying. And then it's really, really cool to be able to see a lot of these patients that are, you know, continued patients with Morgan, where she'll throw them on the vizia, you know, a month, two, three months, and track the progress and actually see their. Their true skin ages reversing, showing that, hey, these treatments are actually working. They're. They're benefiting you.
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D
So.
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B
Did you try that? Have you tried it?
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A
I have not.
- [105:36]
C
Oh, we gotta get you some of the.
- [105:37]
B
Mrs. Amanda. I'm assuming you've tried it.
- [105:40]
A
I'm sure she has.
- [105:41]
B
Yeah. She's great, by the way. We love her. Shout out Amanda.
- [105:45]
A
She's amazing. Yeah. And then the different IV therapies and bags and options and NAD and all that fun stuff, it's amazing.
- [105:55]
C
There's. There's a lot of stuff out there. And what is it? Nad.
- [105:58]
D
You guys have thrown it.
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A
NAD plus.
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D
Yeah.
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A
What is.
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D
What is nad?
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C
It's a coenzyme that exists in every single cell in our body. And just as our. Our hormones decrease as we age, that NAD storage decreases as we age as well. So we do a lot of NAD therapy. We like to usually start with NAD infusions. A higher dose to able to, you know, pretty much give you a higher dose of that in the system. A lot of people will start with, like, subcutaneous injections, which. The injections are a lot of a lower dose, so it might take You a little bit longer doing an injection over a period of time to see the benefits of NAD compared to, you know, with JP. We got them in there. And starting with that 750 milligram IV infusion, which takes most people hours, two to four hours for that drip. JP, he's, like, squeezing the bag.
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B
No, no. JP took two hours, as we recommended, for every of our.
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A
No, I opened up that bag and then asked for a larger gauge the next time. I mean, because it's just. It's just a discomfort level.
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C
Yeah.
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A
Like, it's. I mean, it. There is no negative effects on the body if you take it fast. It just. Because. I mean. Well, you can explain why Your. Your body. You just.
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B
Shortness of breath, chest pressure on your chest.
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A
I didn't feel shortness of breath. I felt achy flush, maybe. Maybe. But I just blacked out, went somewhere else. And. I'm just kidding. Yeah. NAD is absolutely incredible. Like, absolutely incredible. You feel the difference. Like, there is no denying that you feel the difference with those bags because they're loading, like, such a large amount into you, and the goal is to do five bags within two weeks. So you just have this saturation of that in your body, and then you can get the injections prescribed to you. I was like, cool, I want to do this. I want to do this before this time frame and did it. And my days are pretty busy. I don't have two to three hours to sit in the clinic. I love it because they have the TV up. It's very educational. I'm sitting, talking with Nick and Johnny and meeting different people that are in there for regular IVs. And the first time, they're like, yeah, you know, kind of take. You slow it down. And I just, you know, Max walks away, and I just open up the line a little bit. And then, you know, just by feeling, I was like, oh, I can feel that. And then I got used to it. And I was like, open up the line a little bit more. And I remember one time Max came in, he goes, that line is really flowing. I was like, yeah, I opened it. And then. I think he told you guys or something. I don't know. I can't remember. Yeah, the very first time. And then. But I timed it. And then since, because I am competitive, I wanted it to be faster. Yeah. And faster. And then my very last one, I'd like, straight up, like, because they knew it, I told them. I was like, I want this. And so they gave me a larger gauge needle or line. I guess I should Say, and man, I just, just as soon as it was in, I let that thing flow and I just positioned my arm and I held my arm basically in an armbar position, right. Wedged it between the two chairs and just sat there, slide and just was just like, just let it flow. I mean, it was like a, it was, there was no drip. It was a flow, straight stream. And yeah, it was, it was very quick. Yeah. Very efficient with time. We'll just say that.
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B
Yes. Better term there.
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A
Yeah.
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C
And that one checks all the boxes. I mean, you see, you know, Khloe Kardashian, Bieber, you know, posting their videos of them doing nad, saying they're going to live forever. So just great anti, you know, aging energy cognitive benefits there. Sounds super, super silly, but like, colors are brighter, everything is just engaged again, just getting you to those optimal levels. And then even as simple as, you know, IV therapy coming in, sitting down with myself or Mason and, you know, why are you here? What do you want to accomplish out of this I.V. bag? Oh, you know, I'm just hungover maybe. Yeah, we have a, you know, hangover bag. A lot of patients will come in when they feel like they're getting sick. So we're actually able to, you know, a la carte, create these bags for these patients, you know, ingredient by ingredient, instead of literally just picking from the tv again, not knowing what's in it, allowing them to know, hey, this is what's in this bag and this is how it's going to benefit you and setting those expectations. Right. You know, a lot of patients will come in and I've talked to patients before where they come in and do an energy bag and, you know, they didn't feel much benefit, you know, the next day. It's setting that expectation. Well, you know, if you're not deficient in B12, you're probably not going to feel, you know, a big boost of energy because you're not defending efficient in it. So you're still getting the benefits of the hydration and the other amino acids, the glutathione that we usually follow up the bag with. So just that custom catered approach compared to just picking an IV off the TV and not knowing what you're getting, what to expect from it.
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A
Yeah, that's awesome, man. Well, I appreciate you guys spending the time. I know. I mean, I could sit here and nerd out and I know Lucas could too, for another couple hours. But, you know, you guys have a business around as well and I know you guys got to get there soon. So I just want to say thank you. And, Lucas, we're going to quickly close it out with a few things and then just kind of for both of you guys as we close it out, you know, if there's. If you can leave our audience with one piece of advice to help them just win in their health, sobriety, marriage, business, life in general, what would it be? So just kind of think about that. We're gonna close it out with a few things, and then also, you know, to our listeners, when you guys reach out to Relive Health, like, let them know you heard about it from the podcast. I know they run different promotions throughout the year, and, you know, whenever you reach out, just let them know you're part of the podcast. And then, you know, they'll be a, you know, a different type of promotion that they might be able to run for you guys as listeners, you know, which will change throughout the year. But, you know, we. We appreciate our listeners. We know you guys, you know, just the support you guys give our podcast and the support that you guys give our guests are very much appreciative, which I know Luke's about to cover the social media aspect, but, yeah, Relive Health in Flower Mound. And, man, take. Take a little more ownership over your health. Do some education, do some research, and if anything, reach out to Nick and Johnny and their team and just see. See what they can do to help you feel better. Because I know every single one of the listeners, and I know I'm speaking for myself and Lucas. We all want to feel a little more optimized. We all want to have a little more energy. We want a little more focus, a little more mental clarity. We want to be better husbands, better fathers, better wives, better mothers. That comes from us having our health in line. Because when your health is not in line, you're limited on what you can give to the people around you. So you have to take ownership over that 100%, man.
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D
And thank you guys so much for being on the show. If you want to join the conversation, go check us out on Instagram. You can see me at Lucas Pinker. JP is @JPdonelle. We're both at the JP Danel podcast, but Nick is N1C KYB. And if you want to check out the stuff that the guys are doing over at Relive, go check out Relive Score Flower Mound. And then whenever you get your blood test, you know who's really going to help out you folks over at first in Nutrition. If you go to first in Nutrition,.com JPPOD. They are offering a mic or they are offering, let's see, it is. The Montgomery's are offering four free weeks of nutrition coaching. So make sure you go check them out. If you're not following Echelon front, you need to go ahead and do it. These guys have to get to work. But JP's got some stuff he's doing this afternoon where he's giving it a keynote, talking about the laws of combat. If you want to get in the game on the laws of combat, if you want to really learn what extreme ownership is all about, go to echelonfront.com look at the online academy, the other things that we're involved in, Jesus and Jiu jitsu, little cattle company on the bath, printing Bruiser arms. We got links for all of those below. And if you haven't seen it throughout the show we've been sipping on our Jocko gos and Hydrates. Go to jockofuel.com use code JP POD20. Save yourself 20 on everything that's going on there. And then also big shout out and thanks to Pete and Amanda Roberts over at Origin usa. Go check out their stuff. The flannels are back. They've got a new color now, so they get the red and the, the green. So go check those out and then maybe you can put yourself in a hoodie, you know, pre order a hoodie that might have been used for a 4 liter. Whatever he was brought over to give, double thumbs up. Go check it all out. So thanks for all that. And guys, you got any final thoughts for us?
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B
Sure, yeah. I'll keep it simple. You know, basic business principles transmit, you know, translate through almost all businesses. But if you're someone young and you're just interested in business, I only know what works for me. Just caring and being supportive of your team. I always joke in the clinic, people say this about me. I don't do anything, but I know I can recognize when someone's genuine and very intelligent and smart at what they do. And I have all that with there. So all I do is just, you know, be thankful for guys like him and our staff, you know, whether it's Jess up front and Max who you know, and Mason and Morgan and Amy, is that I know that they're very smart and I know they're genuine and I know they care. And all I do when I come in every day is just try to be supportive and create a good work environment. That's what's important for me. And then, you know, that worked for me in the Restaurant too.
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A
You know, that's a good, solid application to every aspect of life.
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B
And then I'll just. One more thing is that, you know, I really isolated myself with the restaurant from friends and community and brotherhood. And now looking back, that's really important. And if you don't have that, I'd really, I'd really do something about that. You know, giving my life to Christ and surrounding myself with Christian brothers has literally changed my life. And not just that perspective we talk about all the time, perspective. Like you can have some hard times, you look around, you're like, I got brothers like you guys in my life. You know, I have a beautiful wife at home. You know, whether you're having a bad day or financial struggles, you know, be thankful for the God's blessings. It might not be what you want, but you do have them around you.
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A
Amen.
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C
It's a tough one to follow up. Well, I just want to thank you guys for having us on. Thank you for your friendship, your brothership. Absolutely. Thank you for your service as well. Super, super grateful for that. In closing, I would just say, you know, consistency, I think consistency with whatever you do in life, whether that's in business, whether that's in your health and wellness journey is the most important. Educating yourself and surround yourself with people that you look up to. You know, I was able to do that with Johnny. I was able to do that with you as well and, and putting that group of individuals together in your life. You know, not to end on this, but you know, Matt doing a little sermon, three week sermon here and week one was people and week two was place. And I'll end with this where me and Johnny have this conversation all the time. And obviously it comes up in, you know, last Sunday, you know, we came here to open up, relive, you know, that's what we thought we were doing. That's what we thought we were coming here to do is to open up this business. And you know, God had a different plan for us and he brought us here for the people and the place. So do everything that you can to find those people and put those people in your life.
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A
That's awesome, man. And I just want to thank you, you guys, for obviously, you know, coming on the show, sharing the knowledge with all of our listeners, with Lucas and I obvious as well for your guys's friendship. Not just me being a customer, but like actually like being a part of your guys lives and you guys being a part of mine and how you guys treat myself and my family and our friends that you know, just, you guys are incredible humans, and I'm thankful for that, you know, but just, you know, the support, you know, that you guys have given me and my family and all your customers and your clients and your friends and just the community is. Is unmatched. And I know I've shared on the podcast before, but, I mean, if it wasn't for me having just the knowledge and the. The ability to do what I do with my health through relive, like, my recovery would not be worth that from. From tearing and detaching my bicep. You know, the night that I happened, I, you know, I. I did a full week's worth of the peptide blends that I have from you guys into the tear. Like, like, work that needle into the tear. That actually hurt more than actually tearing it. Like, like, put the needle in and just work it into the tear. And did a full week's worth. Did that Monday night. Did that Tuesday night. When I went in for surgery on Wednesday, the surgeon was like, looking at the arms and he goes, it's this arm, correct? And I said, yeah, there is no bruising, no inflammation, no swelling, none of that. And he goes, this is crazy. And I told him, I reminded him what I did because I told him at my doctor's appointment on Tuesday. And both the first time I told him, and then when I. When I reminded him, he goes, that is very smart. He goes, I wish more people under. Understood the, like, peptides and the. The value of them. And then, you know, I had surgery Wednesday. Obviously wasn't able to go into the tear anymore because it was covered up, but I got as close as I could on the top of the bicep. And, you know, did the same thing on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and it was unreal because of those peptides. And then also shout out to Mama Lee and America's Mighty warriors and that foundation, they were able to get me into some HBOT treatments to help with that recovery. I was off pain, like, Saturday. No. So that was Friday. I had to drive out to Amarillo Friday afternoon to go speak at a men's event on Saturday. While you're driving, you can't be on painkillers. And so Friday morning, technically, you know, at 3:00am when I woke up to take my painkillers and then did my HBOT treatment and took my peptides and then drove out there. Like, I was able to make that drive without any painkillers because of what the peptides had been doing since day one, what they're doing after surgery. And you know, as we're record like today, yeah, it's Wednesday. Today is 12 weeks post surgery. And last night I was able to train Jiu Jitsu again. So I been able to get back into Jiu Jitsu and lifting light next month I should have been lifting weights lightly. And last week I was able to curl a 25 pound dumbbell hammer curls. 25 pounds, 10 reps, which is not a lot, but for where I was supposed to be, it's crazy. Do a one minute dead hang, no pain. Jiu Jitsu, no pain. You know, I was rolling last night with Aaron Archer and afterwards he came over for dinner and we were talking and he was asked how the arm was and I was like, yeah, it's actually really good. I mean it's fatigue, but that's going to be normal. He goes, yeah, we were rolling. He goes, one time you had a grip with your, you're moving and gripping and pushing and pulling with your right arm. He goes, I. He goes, I remember thinking that is a really strong grip and pull for being under 12 weeks of surgery. And that's 100% because of the therapy that I've been able to get from you guys with Peptides and trt. But doing it smart, you know, and, and doing it smart and you know, the way you guys run your business is an example of how I think every business should, should run. You guys take care of your team and you take care of your customers and you guys maintain alignment in regards to like, hey, this is what we want to do, this is what we do, this is why we do it. And I think that's a lesson all of us could take home is, you know, go out there and deliver the best service possible. No matter what you're doing, if you're cleaning dishes, you're busting tables, you're a janitor all the way up to a CEO. Do the best you can every day to take care of the people around you and God's gonna bless your life. So I'm just proud of you guys for dedicating your lives to Christ, surrendering and also dedicating your business to, to honor him as well. And he's only going to continue to bless you. So thank you for everyone listening. I hope this reminder, I hope this episode has been a reminder for all of us to go do the work that's needed to put in the effort to build your legacy and to never settle. This has been the JP Denal podcast, episode 121.