How the Fight I Stopped Changed My Life | Navy SEAL Bedtime Stories | JP Dinnell Podcast 138

Summary

JP Dinnell Podcast #138: How the Fight I Stopped Changed My Life | Navy SEAL Bedtime Stories Date: May 15, 2026
Host(s): JP Dinnell & Lucas Pinckard

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Episode Overview

In this rapid-fire Q&A episode, former Navy SEAL JP Dinnell teams up with co-host Lucas Pinckard to answer listener-sourced questions, share behind-the-scenes SEAL Team stories, discuss favorite MMA moments, and reflect on life lessons from his military and personal journey. The episode balances light-hearted banter with vulnerability, diving into stories about competition, team culture, and pivotal moments in JP’s life—including how stopping one bar fight set the stage for meeting his wife, Amanda. The core theme is about taking risks, stepping up in challenging moments, and the lifelong impact of small decisions.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Rapid-Fire Questions: Personal & MMA

• Walkout Song for MMA
  • JP’s pick: “Amazing Grace” by Dropkick Murphys
  • “Just the connection to… my guys… Amazing Grace has always gotten me… and the association with funerals. For me, it was a way of honoring those guys—whether I won or lost, I’m gonna fight hard.” (01:22, JP)
  • Discusses choosing music that keeps him grounded and focused on fighting for something bigger than himself.
• Targeted in BJJ/MMA Competitions
  • Being the “Echelon Front” rep puts a target on him at events like Musters and immersion camps.
  • “There is a target on me at immersion camp…It’s a fact… bring it on.” (02:59, JP)
• Legendary Jiu Jitsu Story: Pete Roberts Bet
  • JP shares a story about a high-stakes, charity-driven bet (seven sweeps in 10 minutes) with Pete Roberts (Origin founder).
  • Both shoulders were separated during the match, but the event raised money for America’s Mighty Warriors.
  • “Pete Roberts will whoop my butt in Jiu Jitsu any day.” (03:55, JP)
  • Praises Pete’s skill and compares his potential to Gordon Ryan.
• Favorite MMA Fighter Skillset
  • Diazes for grit (“just pick one”) and GSP for skill and humility.
  • “I just love the scrappiness of the Diaz brothers…their striking, their jiu jitsu.” (11:00, JP)
  • “GSP’s humility, in addition to his skillset, is undeniable.” (10:24, JP)
• Favorite Submission & Training
  • Likes working “JP Gift Wrap” (submission), Munson choke, and a custom bread-cutter variation (“beef cutter”).
  • “I have a variation of the bread cutter I’ve also been refining.” (12:14, JP)
• Favorite Muscle Group to Train
  • Legs—all aspects: “quads, hamstrings, calves, glutes.” JP recalls learning the value of strong legs from his dad.
  • “Just that feeling of a good leg workout—knowing you put in that work.” (13:11, JP)
  • Mentions the link between leg strength and longevity, mental health, and hormonal balance.

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2. Personal Stories & Character Moments

A. Navy SEAL Bedtime Story

• JP recounts being a new SEAL, ordered by a senior to tell a bedtime story until the guy fell asleep:
  • “Tell me a bedtime story until I fall asleep… I literally sat at the foot of his bed and made up this story... until he fell asleep.” (20:22, JP)
  • Humorous, character-building “new guy” initiation, blending absurdity with camaraderie.
  • “The most ridiculous thing… but I think about it, you had to keep going… because who knows what the penalty would have been!” (23:05, JP)
  • Connects this experience to building resilience and finding humor in SEAL team culture.

B. The Night JP Met Amanda: How a Bar Fight Changed His Life

• Vivid, detailed telling of how a nearly disastrous bar fight inadvertently led to meeting his future wife at Big Leagues bar, South Haven, Mississippi.
• “She’s running the place, drop-dead gorgeous… I remember staring at her, looking in her eyes, those gorgeous blue eyes…” (27:38, JP)
• Shares the invisible double dutch jump-rope gag to draw attention—humorous and authentic team ritual.
• Describes escalating tension with drunken military guys; JP intervenes to keep his SEAL team out of trouble and prevent a fight.
• Amanda steps in (no bouncers), and through JP’s intervention/protectiveness, they connect for the first time.
• The next night, fate intervenes again—JP and Amanda meet at another bar (Fox & Hound), exchange numbers, and text all night.
• “She gives me her business card, writes her cell, says, ‘if you guys need me to keep the kitchen open late, message me’… and I was like, cool.” (37:05, JP)

C. Lessons from the Story

• The story’s deeper point: Seemingly small interventions or “doing the right thing” can profoundly alter life trajectories.
• “It would have been a no no matter what had I not said anything… it’s those self-imposed limitations that we put upon ourselves. Go for it.” (46:29, JP)
• Encourages listeners to take shots in life, ask out the girl, apply for the job, or try something bold, because the only real limitations are self-imposed.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Preparation & Competitiveness:
  • “There is a target on me... I don’t say that in, like, an egotistical bad way, but it’s just a fact.” (02:59, JP)
• On Gifts and Mentorship:
  • “Another thing my dad taught me… what will stimulate the most growth for a body part? Train it the same day you train legs.” (18:45, JP)
• On Jiu Jitsu Legends:
  • “If [Pete Roberts] didn’t go the entrepreneur route… he’d be like the Gordon Ryan… he was already smoking some of the top black belts in the world as a brown belt.” (07:20, JP)
• On Courage and Taking Risks:
  • “The only thing that’s holding you back in life is you... take the risk, make the move, make the most of your life.” (47:10, JP)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Choosing Walkout Song/Amazing Grace – 00:51–02:10*
• Target on JP at Jiu Jitsu Events – 02:34–03:12*
• Pete Roberts Sweeps Bet Story – 03:20–07:33*
• Favorite MMA Skillset – Diaz Bros/GSP – 09:24–11:15*
• Favorite Submission & Training Routines – 11:52–15:16*
• Favorite Storytelling: Navy SEAL Bedtime Story – 19:40–25:24*
• Origin Story: Meeting Amanda – 27:07–41:11*
• Life Lessons/Closing Thoughts – 46:08–47:10*

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Episode Tone & Style

• Candid & Humorous: The show is packed with inside jokes, playful jabs, and stories that reveal the brotherhood and humility at the heart of JP’s experience—“living in the past like Uncle Rico right now” (08:58).
• Reflective & Motivational: JP frequently turns anecdotes into actionable advice, urging listeners to challenge self-doubt and daring them to “go for it.”
• Authentic Leadership: There’s an undercurrent of gratitude for mentors, teammates, and the culture that forged his leadership philosophy, balanced by respect and humility for the “real talents” around him.

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Summary Takeaway

JP Dinnell’s return to stories from the Teams and life outside the wire remind listeners that pivotal moments—on the mat, at the bar, or in personal choices—are all shaped by mindset, courage, and a willingness to put oneself on the line. Through humor, humility, and authenticity, he models lessons on leadership, resilience, and being proactive in all aspects of life.

“Never settle. Go do the work that’s needed to build your legacy.” – JP Dinnell (47:10)

Transcript

[A]

Good morning. This is JP Danell podcast, episode 137. I am JP Donnell, and as always, I have Lucas with me. What's up, buddy? How are you?

[B]

I am excited about this rapid fire question episode where I get to ask you. Ask you things about all the things that I wanted to know. As we get to know a little bit more about you and do some stuff. What I really want to know is what's the over under on episode number where I'm going to get actually struck on you on camera. Will it happen before episode 150? Is it?

[A]

We. We have this and 12 more to go, so.

[B]

We do, yeah.

[A]

All right. What you got?

[B]

All right, so first question. So these are questions that have been sourced by our listeners or other people that have asked at the muster live events, things like that. What was your walkout song whenever you were fighting in mma?

[A]

Amazing Grace by the Drop Kick Murphy's.

[B]

Okay, right on. Is that what you would pick today? Same song?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. All right, I'm gonna have to listen that. That sounds super. I'm huge Dropkick Murphy's fan, like, of their music. We can't, like, we can't play all of it. We could play. You know what we could do? We could make this a short and I could put it in the background on the short and so people can get it.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Okay. Well, yeah, and we'll just title the short Navy SEAL picks Drop Kick Murphy Song as. As Wallcop Music and that'll be our first viral video.

[A]

Why do you. Yeah, I love that song. I just, you know, just the. I love the Dropkick Murphy's and then also just the connection to, I guess just my guys, you know. Amazing Grace, you know, has always gotten me. I loved it ever since I was a kid. And then just, you know, the association with. The unfortunate association with, like, funerals. So for me, it was just a way of. Of just getting my mind right, like, to honor those guys. Like, whether I won or lost, like, I'm gonna go out there and I'm gonna fight. I'm gonna fight hard. I go out there to fight, to win. And, you know, if I win, awesome. If I don't, like, nobody's gonna watch my fight and be like, oh, man, he just. He didn't really do anything.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, I know I'm gonna get beat. Like, you know, I'm starting to compete this year and like, okay, cool. Guess what? Like, I'll probably do well and I'll probably get beat a lot, and I'm okay. With that. Like, when you look at the other guys in my age division, my weight, brown belt, like, these guys compete all the time, right? All the time. I don't compete.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I'm gonna start competing.

[B]

Do you think you. We talked about this a little bit. When you did a competition as a purple belt, do you think that there's maybe, like, a little bit of a target on you when it comes to, like, in competitions?

[A]

It's something if they recognize my name, maybe. But when I'm like, so there's a target on me at the muster, when we do jujitsu afterwards.

[B]

Oh, 100.

[A]

There is a target on me at immersion camp.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

And not. I don't say that in, like, an egotistical bad way, but it's just. It's a fact, you know, Jocko's like, bro, you got to target. Yeah. You know, because Jocko doesn't roll anymore at the musters. Neither does Echo, because they're teaching. And boom.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And he's like, yeah, you're the EF guy they're going after. And I'm like, cool, man. So bring it on.

[B]

Wasn't there a thing that you did with Pete?

[A]

Yeah, it was a bet. Right. And it started off joking. Cause we were rolling, and he looked over his head, and I'm like, don't worry. You ain't gonna sweep me over your head. Well, it was the same sweep that Formica does. Cause guess what? They were training partners for years. And he was like, oh, well, I also just stopped playing Jiu Jitsu and was just, like, laying there and being heavy and hugging. I wasn't actually trying to pass anym. So then it formulated in this little crap, talking back and forth. And here's the deal. Pete Roberts will whoop my butt in Jiu Jitsu any day.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Still to this day. Okay, I'm a brown belt. Doesn't matter. There's not one thing I can do. I'm telling you. Not one thing I can do to Pete Roberts in Jiu Jitsu. That puts him in danger or gives me the advantage.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

He's that good at Jiu Jitsu and big and strong. So it was just a friendly, like, banter. And then, you know, he hyped it up. I hyped it up. We got the market, you know, and it was cool. It came into this competition thing where instead of just overhead Sweep, it was seven sweeps. Seven sweeps within 10 minutes.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Absolutely horrible for me, because then we set the rules to where, like, I had to also be actively Trying to pass so I couldn't just sit down.

[B]

Oh, gosh. Yeah, that's which.

[A]

When you're actively. Yeah. Sets you up for all the sweeps. And immediately he goes to do a sweep, and I stopped it, but it separated my right shoulder.

[B]

Oh, no.

[A]

And he's like, you okay? Like, and this is why I love Pete, is he's like, you okay? I'm not good. Like, just a little separation. So Pete, being the amazing human he is, he's like, cool. I'm gonna start sweeping the other side. Same thing. I stop it by, like, sitting and settling back really hard, but he hit it hard. Separated my left shoulder. So now both my shoulders are just, like, jacked.

[B]

Like, jacked armed.

[A]

And, you know, so we're still going. And, you know, and then he just freaking. Boom. Right away. Boom. Right? And so you have to do sweep and then settle to get the points and then reset. But when they reset, they stop the clock. So it's not like I can. I couldn't pull the Brazilian move of like, oh, let me fix my belt. Fix my gi. No. It was like, time stopped. And, yeah, it was rough, man, but. And then we raised money for America's mighty warriors. There's, like, bro. There's, like, a bunch of side bets going on.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

It was awesome. But, yeah, I won that bet. Um, it's on YouTube. I mean, there's, like, hundreds of thousands of views on it.

[B]

Yeah, it's a fun video because they

[A]

marketed the right way. But here's the deal. It was. It was in my advantage.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, just all I had to do is not get sweat, but I still had to be advancing. It was awesome. Pete is an amazing human. And, you know. You know, of course, you know, like, oh, blue belt, Navy seal beats black belt and a bat. Yeah. It was a bet, man. And I've told people since that time, and still to this day, if it was a jiu jitsu match, Pete would destroy me.

[B]

Because there's. There's something about those things that it's. You're doing it for fun. You're doing it for a purpose with charity and stuff involved. Right. Like, nobody's taking it too seriously. As soon as you pay a hundred dollars to get mat time, now all of a sudden, stakes are different.

[A]

Yeah. It is a 2500 bet.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because we were going to do a bet, and then he comes in and he's like. He says something, and I was like, 2500. And as soon as I said that, I was like, oh, my gosh, my wife's gonna kill me. But then I was like, no, it's for America. It's for Mama Lee. I can maybe get away with this. We'll make it work. He's like, all right. Yeah. And they cut her a check. And other people helped, like, with their little side bets, like, raise money. So it was really cool. But, yeah, Pete Roberts, Jiu jitsu is unreal. Real, like, just unreal. If he didn't go the entrepreneur route. Did you go to Origin? He would be like, different time frame, different style, but he would be like the Gordon Ryan in regards to people like, oh, he's the greatest of all time.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because he was.

[B]

He had that potential, bro.

[A]

He was already smoking some of the top black belts in the world when he was a brown belt.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Abu Dhabi Championship, like, all these things. Like, I mean, when he's beating some of the top black belts in the world as a brown belt. I mean, come on.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So, yeah, his. You know, and it's no question, or I guess you'd say mystery as to why Formiga is so good is because they both came up under dedeco.

[B]

Yeah. And why, for me, good has no problem in the absolutes when. When he was going against guys like that in. In training. I'm excited to dive into some of that stuff with Pete whenever we. We have him on hopefully later this year.

[A]

I know. So.

[B]

So that leads us into the next question, though. Up. My wife's gonna hate this because of the bagpipes. Just wait.

[A]

Yeah, this is a.

[B]

The bag. The bag pipe. Single octave is so good, though. I'm talking over it. So that whenever it gets to the part that we don't get all the.

[A]

Yeah, but, yeah, what's also good is I would be sitting there kind of waiting.

[B]

So is this. While you're in the tunnel, this part's playing staging area. Okay.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, like.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Boom. And then I just sit there and tell. You'll know when. And this is. And then that's when my coaches would slap me on the back and I start walking forward. Jake Underwood, Zach Underwood, Joe Pass. Wait, almost.

[B]

Yeah, almost.

[A]

Yep. And then, boom, Start walking like, bro, I can smell the arenas right now, my gloves and all that stuff. But, yeah, I mean, shoot, that was freaking over 11 years ago for my last fight.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Living in the past, like Uncle Rico right now. Yeah.

[B]

Throw a. Throw football over the mountains. So which. So this is. This leads into kind of the next question. Which MMA fighter would you like, if you could have one MMA fighter skill set and make it your own. Who would you pick? You can go all time, right? Whose skill set would you want?

[A]

Can I say either or.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Do I have to just pick one?

[B]

I think you just got to pick one for this because like, obviously if it's. We could go through the whole thing. Like if you wanted to do.

[A]

Who's grabbing you want really 100.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Diaz brothers. I don't care which one.

[B]

Yeah, just pick one.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

If it wasn't them. Gsp.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Okay. Right on. I mean, it's hard to go wrong with gsp.

[A]

I mean.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

But one of the greatest.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, when. So when I was a missionary in Canada, he was like at the height of it and dude, places were packed. We went to. There was a college in the area that had a massive on campus bar that sat like 600 and it would be packed out with people. That's probably closer to 300, but yeah, it would be packed out with people watching. Watching those, those GFC fights with. With GSP.

[A]

I just love GSP's humility. In addition to his skill set. His skill set is undeniable.

[B]

I do think, like, if we broke it up, it would be interesting one day, like to create the ultimate fighter. Like, whose skills would they have? Like whose grappling would they have? Whose standup game would they have?

[A]

We would have to bring on Aiden for that. Cuz he's like a savant with UFC fighters and he can pronounce Aiden every single one of their names.

[B]

That can be challenging.

[A]

Yeah, I just picked the two names I knew. But yeah. Yeah, I just love the scrappiness of the Diaz brothers. Their striking.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Is undeniable. Their jiu jitsu. And I really was a fan of just how they treated themselves as athletes. Like going into those. In those fights. And yeah, man, they're. They're awesome.

[B]

I think. Doesn't. Doesn't Nate Diaz have something to do with the Ronda Rousey, Gina Carano thing?

[A]

I'm not sure.

[B]

I think one of them. One of them does. And that's on May 16th. Are you gonna. Is that something you're gonna check out that card?

[A]

I'm sure I will.

[B]

Yeah. I'm interested to see how Netflix does it because this is. They're entering into new territory by. By doing this kind of thing. And I'm so.

[A]

I'm interested to see how that's gonna be a Saturday.

[B]

Yeah. Favorite submission.

[A]

I like doing the JP gift wrap. Yeah, that's what Formiga calls it.

[B]

It is. It is not A regular gift wrap. It is an actual submission. It's not just pressure and it sucks.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's all I have to say about that forest gump style.

[A]

Outside of that, I've been liking to work like Munson choke.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah. So I have a variation of the bread cutter I've also been refining to the point where some of the other day was like, what'd you do?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Cause he's like, that. Was that a bread cutter joke? But I wasn't in the right position for it. I'm like, yeah. And so I was like, showing him how to do it as a younger kid.

[B]

Right. You gotta call it the beef cutter. And whenever it catches on.

[A]

Yeah. But I've been able to hit that on a lot of people because you don't think that variation is coming from it.

[B]

Yeah. Okay. Your favorite muscle group to work out.

[A]

Man. That's a good question.

[B]

Because

[A]

it might be this episode that you get smacked. Why'd you just shift?

[B]

I just want to. I just want to acknowledge your. Your compliment.

[A]

That's all. I love blasting legs.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Like, and when I say legs, like, all of your legs, like, not just squats, deadlifts, lunges, but like calves. Right. Okay. Quads, hamstrings, calves, glutes. Just that feeling of just a good leg workout, knowing you put in that work and it just. It makes you feel better.

[B]

You know, there's a study about this that reduces everything. Yeah. That one of the biggest indicators for longevity of life, long term mental cognition and proper hormone balance comes from strong legs.

[A]

100%.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

My dad told me that when we were kids.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, he just. Again, very thankful for my parents, like, putting that time in and teaching us those things. But. Yeah. And I think also because I used to love watching my dad hit leg workouts with his guys because I'd just be in awe. Just back squatting. Just five plates on each side for reps, bro. Dude, that's 495. Just repping it out. And then also being able to watch him rep495 on bench was just like, just unreal.

[B]

That's rad.

[A]

And he doesn't have short arms. He has long arms. Right. And so just watching it was just crazy. But I would. You know, I think there is a reason why I like doing legs with buddies is because very rarely do people hit their calves hard. And I will. And people are just. Just hating life.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Like a legit calf workout.

[B]

Yeah. And I have cramps and the burning.

[A]

I have some variations that I do that My dad taught me that people have never seen, and they're like, this is horrible. Another thing my dad taught me was because I was trying to build my shoulders and I. I need to get back into lifting again now that I'm, like, fully recovered from surgery, get into that routine. So. And my focus lately has just been cardio and, and leaning up again. I'm down to 209, bro.

[B]

No way.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I wouldn't put you a pound over 220. 209, though. You look good.

[A]

Yeah, thank. Well, I mean, are you going to try?

[B]

Are you trying to get 200?

[A]

I told Amanda last night and she's like, you're like, getting really lean, babe. I'm like, thank you. And she's like, how? But you could tell. She's like, kind of like, how small are you? Exactly, exactly. So how much weight are you wanting to lose?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I was like, I don't know, probably. I think, I think my goal and I'll just stay there. I was like, 185. She's like, absolutely not. Like, just instantly. Absolutely not. And I just held the line. I'm like, no. I was like, babe, when we first met, I was 185 and you liked me then. I was like, I fluctuate between 185 to 190. 195. Ish, you know? She's like, no, you were not. No, no, you're bigger. I'm like, remember my first MMA fight? I was like, I weighed in with cutoff cami shorts, a belt on phone and wallet in my pockets, and I was 191.2. The other dude cut down to 205.

[B]

Yikes.

[A]

And I was like, you could just see her processing it.

[B]

She's like, no, no, no, no, no, it's not true.

[A]

Yeah. And I was like, yeah, probably, you know, 180, 185. I think that would be solid. She's like, I think like 200. Like, I think that's the minimum. You go 200, you stay there. I think, like, right now, like, you should, like, you know, 210. Like, that's good. I'm like, nah, 185. I was just like, it's so.

[B]

Kirsten, one time when I was like, I had. I'd gotten to the point where I was fat and lazy. Right. And you can be one of those things and it's fine. But both those things is a bad

[A]

thing to be, so actually neither one

[B]

is, but okay, well, I mean, like, if you're.

[A]

It's the first season of Your life. No, I get it.

[B]

Right? Or like, there's a reason that, like, strong men, right? There's a reason that those guys stay at the weight that they're at. Because, like, if you look at him, you're like, that's a fat dude.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But then you watch somebody like Eddie hall, who is 6:2 and £400, you're like, oh, okay. He just. You know, he just lifted 1100 pounds off the ground. So maybe there's more to it than just.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

But yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Anyway, all. All that to say. She told me one day, she's like, when I was losing weight, she's like, oh, you're starting to look thin. Not the way to do it, ladies. That's not it. Like, hey, you look lean. Yeah. I was like, do you mean I'm leaning out? And she's like, yes. Did I say the wrong things? You absolutely did. That was it. Like, there's very few things that will, like, trigger my vanity and ego to just be crushed.

[A]

So I saw. When we were at the Jesus in Jiu Jitsu event a few weeks ago down in Dripping Springs, I saw. Went by and saw Lee's family, and I saw his wife, Jenna, and she was like, hey, you look great. She's like, man, you look skinny. And I was like, aw. And she goes. And she's so awesome. Jenna's amazing. And she goes, sorry, I met Lean. Lean, skinny's not good. And I was like, I don't care, but thank you. I mean, she's like, what have you been doing? I'm, like, working out and eating healthy. You know, all the things you're supposed to do. She goes, yeah. Isn't that crazy?

[B]

It's weird when you do the right things that. That's it. Okay, so these next two questions are sort of.

[A]

I'm sorry. One thing I was going to say is I went down that rabbit hole of, like. But what I'm going to start doing again when I'm lifting is one of the things my dad taught me, because I was trying to get my shoulders built up and get them stronger because I had, like, issues with my shoulders, is he told me, he's like, hey, if what will stimulate the most growth for a body part? Train it the same day you train legs.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so that I used to do legs and shoulders, bro. And that was like, my. My thing.

[B]

Charles Glass. I don't know if you know that name. He was known for a while as the pro creator and was a trainer who. I think he might still hold the record at one point, he was the trainer that had more bodybuilders that had gotten their pro card than anybody else. Right. Amateur bodybuilders to turn him pro. That's why. That's why he got the nickname the Procreator. That was one of his big things.

[A]

Pretty amazing. Was for other reasons.

[B]

Shoulders and legs. That. That was it. Like making his guys train shoulders and legs on the same day. And all of a sudden their physiques blew up.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Tapers and everything were. Were crazy. Okay, so these. Now these next two questions are a little bit. They play off of each other a little bit of INV version. So the first is the story that you enjoy telling the most. What story do you enjoy telling the

[A]

most in regards to?

[B]

Like, just your favorite story to tell. Right. Like, it could be a story from when you served. It could be a family story. It could be, you know, whatever. I mean, as long as it's not like the Three Little Pigs and you just like, do great voices or something like that. I think like personal story or a story about you that you enjoy telling the most.

[A]

Huh.

[B]

That's weird, right? Yeah, it's an interesting because it's like, it's personal, but it also may not

[A]

be, but it'd be cool if there's like a category.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

You know what I mean? Because I have a lot of different funny stories.

[B]

Yeah, let's go. Funny story. What funny story do you enjoy telling the most? That will keep our rating?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. I was a new guy and we're on a training trip and I think, yeah, we're doing our surveillance and recon training and we're back in the barracks for like a 24 hour, like, segment before we went back out in the field to do more. And one of the older guys calls me over, I'm like, hey, what's up, man? And like, everyone's like wrapping up, getting ready for bed. He's like, jp, I'm like. So I come over there and I'm like thinking, I gotta go do something or grab. I don't know. Like, I literally have no idea what we're going to talk about. He's like, tell me a bedtime story until I fall asleep. I was like, what? He goes, tell me a bedtime story until I fall asleep. I'm like, what do you want me to talk about? He goes, I don't care. Make it up. So I sat. I sat through his bed and made up this story about times in my life and people in my life until he fell asleep.

[B]

How how long did it take?

[A]

I don't remember. Longer than I wanted it to. And my buddy Steve Trier was over in the other bunk, and he's just dying laughing. Benny's laughing. And I was like, okay. And so I went so back to my bed afterwards, and I was like, this is amazing.

[B]

This is the weirdest freaking thing that's ever happened. So was there a moral to the story?

[A]

No.

[B]

No.

[A]

Really? Just making up as many. It was like a choose your own adventure. Whatever thought came into my mind, Lucas, was like, that's what we were doing. Yeah. I talked about riding my motorcycles as a group of friends from Sacramento. We stopped at Del Taco to eat, and we're headed up to I80. But, you know, before we got up there, we stopped by my grandpa. I literally was just like, everything that was like in my life that I could, that I knew about or was relevant at the time. Like, I literally was just like, cool, this. And then this, and then this.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Talked about riding my motorcycle and then going to my grandparents and stopping in for a while and then going to Lake Tahoe, and then I don't even.

[B]

It was just. Anything that came to your mind just to try to just, Just keep the story going.

[A]

And I'm wanting to go to sleep because I'm exhausted. We've been out in the field. We're getting ready to go back out in the field, and it's just. I'm literally just sitting there and I'm, like, lowering my voice. Hopefully he goes to bed. Bro.

[B]

Trying to sue them.

[A]

It's the most ridiculous thing. But I think about it.

[B]

But, like, you had to keep going because who knows what the. What, what the penalty would have been.

[A]

I know what the penalties were. I, I.

[B]

You had seen this happen.

[A]

I had seen this happen before and maybe been on the receiving end.

[B]

Yeah. Did you. Did you go with, like, some head scratches? Right? To. To help soothe.

[A]

I'm probably sh. I'm. Let me just scratch your head. Yeah.

[B]

Here you go.

[A]

I'll just give you. All right. I tell that story in people lighting. Are you serious? I'm like, yeah, yeah. And then they asked the same thing. I'm like, what am I supposed to do? Be like, nope and walk away? I mean, I guess I could have. And then just seeing what happened and. And then just know it's a fight, bro.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And that's fine. Cool.

[B]

Yeah. Because he wants his bedtime story.

[A]

I don't mind. I'll fight. I'll scrap with my guys and. But here's. Here's what? You can't beat Gang Fu because it ain't just gonna be one of the older guys. You're getting rolled up by all of them. And it doesn't matter even if they, like, don't agree with what he's doing. Like now it's like principle. It's like, cool. Guess what? New guy, which I loved, man, I loved that stuff in the sealed teams.

[B]

But also, like, you wouldn't have this story. And I do think that that's awesome. I do think that's one of the things that people miss whenever it comes to initiations. Right. Is that there are parts of it that are really like, it's. It's quite good to have this story. When David Baker, when he was on. Right. If you don't know what an F stop is, it's a. It's a setting on the camera. And so he was telling people that, like, all of the camera stores were in on it, you know, sending new guys to go buy a box of F stops.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then, you know, having that story of, like, when you try to do that, when you try to find the board stretcher or the tile bender, the left handed hammer, like, whatever it was that we talked about, you know, those. Those things are all massive. Right. So that's a fun.

[A]

I mean, I know last episode we talked about culture.

[B]

Like, man, that's a cool part of the culture.

[A]

Yeah, it was fun. You know, at the time I was like, this is stupid. But then, you know, I was like, all right, cool. But here's the other thing.

[B]

And everybody got a kick out of it.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Yeah. It's a team building exercise.

[A]

Sure. Storytelling with the fear of getting beat up.

[B]

But it's helped you in your career.

[A]

Yeah, it has. But, you know, the dude also wasn't a jerk.

[B]

Right.

[A]

For no reason. Yeah. Like, if I screwed up, oh, man. Like, I would pay the man from him.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And the other guys. Rightfully so in that line of work. But he wasn't just a jerk for no reason to me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Or any of the guys. Like, I really liked him. I thought he was a great teammate and. Yeah. So, yeah. Making up a bedtime story as a grown man for a grown man, for an older grown man until he falls asleep. So that's awesome.

[B]

Do you think that that. That skill that you learned that night came in handy whenever you started parenting?

[A]

I don't know. Maybe. Yeah, we'll see. We lost my kids later.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Maybe some other categories, too. Like, I'll just see if I can figure out different Stories.

[B]

The amount of bedtime stories we're having to tell right now about everything. Tell me a bedtime story. Okay, so now I want a bedtime story about the lemurs at the zoo. Like, freaking. We haven't been in the zoo in six months.

[A]

I will say that's a cool thing about Chachi.

[B]

BT is doing that. Except for the. The light.

[A]

Well, yeah, you can change the settings on your phone to like, dims it down, but if you could be like, I need a 10 minute storyline for a bedtime story about the lemurs at the zoo. It's going to generate it and you can be like, all right, buddy, I'm going to read you this story.

[B]

There you go.

[A]

Yeah, you're welcome.

[B]

Thanks. Hashtag parenting hacks in 2026.

[A]

Crazy. Yeah.

[B]

All right. Yeah. So let's pick another category. So there's a good, fun SEAL story. What's your favorite story to tell about you and Amanda? Let's go.

[A]

Oh, the night we met.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I love that story.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because it's, you know, we're at this bar in South Haven, Mississippi, called Big leagues. And she's managing that night. And so we go in there as a group of guys after training. It's packed. It's their karaoke night. Like, it's such a fun place to be.

[B]

Right?

[A]

It's like the place to be that night of the week. And she's wearing a baby blue polo with blue jeans. Just, just drop dead gorgeous.

[B]

Like.

[A]

And I remember, like, she's in the back helping her best friend Heather, who is a beautiful woman as well bartend. And like, all the guys are like, bro, this is a place to be. You know what I mean? It's just like, you have two tens back there working staff. Super cool people are awesome in there. And I was like, bro, that blonde is unreal. And my buddy's like, you should go talk to her. I was like, I am not gonna be the guy. I was like, do you understand how often she probably gets hit on here? Like, I'm not gonna be that guy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so we're sitting at the bar, having our drinks, just three of us. Rest of the guys are, you know, another group kind of, you know, a few people next to us down the bar, another group behind us out in this little area where there's like, seating and tables. They're all standing up around the table, drinking and talking group over by the karaoke guys. And so she's walking out and she's like. And it's. I'm telling You. It's packed, bro. And so she's walking my way, and my buddy, I'm standing literally in front of Carlos. I'm facing Carlos and another buddy, George. And we're standing there, and she gets close, and so I squeeze into my right to give her space to walk by. And right as she's, like, almost right in front of me, they push me in front of her. And it's just like, if you're watching on YouTube, you can see how close we got. Like, nose to nose, nearly kissed. I wish. I wish I would have done that. Actually, maybe not.

[B]

Yeah, they might have. You might have lost the battle.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I just remember just, like, staring at her, just looking in her eyes and just those gorgeous blue eyes. And I was like, ma'. Am. And I just, like, kind of, like, click out of it. I'm like, ma'. Am. And I move out of the way. And she goes on. I just remember. I was like, good Lord, bro. I'm like, this is crazy, you know? And so we end up shifting down to the karaoke pot. We know. The DJ know other people. Like, I knew, like, so at one point when. When Amanda and I got together, she broke her phone. I need a new phone. I got a new phone. I gave her my old phone. And remember when, like, the contacts would still stay in your phone, you gave it to somebody if you didn't swipe or whatever. We had a bunch of the same contacts in there from just. My thing is, like, hey, we're here all the time. Why would I not want to meet, like, friends, you know? And so we had a lot of common friends. My buddy Jonathan, her friend Jonathan John. All these, like, different. Like, just friends that we had. And so anyways, I'm down by the DJ booth, and we're, like, talking with those guys. And one of the things that me and my buddies used to do that me and my buddy Dave Torres came up with is to. We would do this to get people's attention. And it was a way to, like, get attention from girls. And if they're interacting with us, we would then talk to them or whatever.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Is a little thing called invisible double Dutch.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Double Dutch Jump rope.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But it's invisible. And so we push people out. So you're like, hey, hold on. Everyone move out. We got something. You know? And people are like, what? And you're. You're making, like, a deal about it. Like, hold on. Pushing people out. Hey, real quick. We gotta do. And so, like, guys are, like, pushing people out. And so we're sitting there, and so, like, me and my buddy, like, we act like we were close to close. Like, close to each other with our hands. Like, you're grabbing jump ropes. I'm grabbing them. All right, cool.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And we pull them back, and then it's like, three, two, one. And then you just.

[B]

You start swinging the jump ropes.

[A]

And I wish people are. I hope people are watching on YouTube. Right? And so you're just doing this, and you're, like, kind of getting the rhythm and everything else like that. And so the two people are doing it, and then whoever's gonna be jumping is, like, acting like they're on out, and they're like. Like, time it. And, like, you jump in and you're jumping, and you're doing invisible double dutch. And so everybody is, like, stopped around us. And now they've created this.

[B]

I'm just watching the absurdity.

[A]

Well, they've also created a barrier. Nobody interrupts and messes up the invisible double dutch.

[B]

Right?

[A]

She is so pissed off because she is trying to run drinks from the bar and cannot get out.

[B]

She can't get. Get past the double dutch.

[A]

Cannot, like, so irritated. And what was funny is at this point, when she was trying to walk by me and the other guys were doing it, and then I, like, handed it off to another guy. And so they're doing it, and the guy was like, oh, you messed it up. So they, like, restart or whatever. I was sitting out there, and I'm like, ray, come on and raise her DJ. So he stops DJing, and he's like, double dutching with me in there. And she was just, like, flipping out. Like, get back to DJing. She's, like, looking at me, and I was just, like, looking at her, like, yeah, girl, I got you.

[B]

I'm not just gonna ruin your night.

[A]

I'm gonna ruin the rest of your life. And you don't even know it. And so then we shift to another part of the bar.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And we're sitting there, and there's another group kind of close to our table. And these. These guys are all. I mean, we're drinking, they're drinking. These guys are just hammered. They're fresh out of boot camp. They're home.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Like, yeah, like, still so fresh that they think wearing the dog tags outside their T shirt is cool.

[B]

Oh, nice.

[A]

I mean, yeah, initially, everybody does that, and then you realize, super lame. Okay. And so they're sitting there and they're just running their mouth. Now, to my guys, they have no idea who we are. Everybody Else does, because it's pretty obvious in that small town of Mississippi, and we knew a bunch of the people, we were friends with, everybody. It's like, dude, let's not, like, start problems in a place that we go every other month, if not every month.

[B]

Like, right.

[A]

Let's not do this.

[B]

But then the new guys out of

[A]

boot camp had no idea. They're back home on leave, serving their nation, getting hammered. Want to prove something?

[B]

Yep.

[A]

I can say that because we've all been there. I. I can. Hold on. I can vouch for myself being that idiot. All right, so I see what's getting ready to happen. Guys are taking their wallets out of the back pocket, putting in the front pocket. Phone goes in the front pocket. Because if you have stuff in your back pocket and you're fighting, they tend to fall out. Front pocket, not so much. And so guys are, like, situating. And now guys have created this little semicircle around these guys, and they have no idea. They are so oblivious to this. And I'm, like, watching, and I just know, like, dude, a fight is getting ready to break out.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And at that time, guys have been getting in trouble for fighting and drinking on the road or back at home.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And I was just like, man, we cannot. This cannot happen. And so I'm, you know, trying to, like, de Escalate a little bit. Guys are hammered. And the group of guys we were with was also the group of instructors that had that. We were building up the combatants program. So not only are they team guys, but they're team guys that can fight.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That like, fighting. That are skilled at fighting. And I'm just like, this is just not gonna be good if it turns into a fight for these guys.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, and again, we don't want to do this. It was stupid.

[B]

Nor for the United States armed forces, just in general.

[A]

Exactly. You don't want to hurt another service member. That's stupid. Or just anybody. The fighting thing, when you're out drinking is the stupidest thing.

[B]

It's.

[A]

It's all ego driven. Okay. And so she comes over with. They don't have securities. I'm sorry. They don't have bouncers at the time. So she comes over with two of the biggest guys in the bar to help break it up. And she's coming in. I'm like, ma'.

[B]

Am.

[A]

Like, it's getting ready to go down. And so she's trying to break into it to stop it, and I'm, like, keeping her out of it. I'm like, ma', Am. I do not want you getting hurt. And so she's kind of looking at me like, who in the heck are you? You remember Small town. She ran that place.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So if she told you to leave, you left, right? Like, told you to stop it, you stopped it. It was just. It was Amanda you knew. And now she's got this guy, like, this guy, like, not bowing up to her, but, like, protecting her, like, in front of her, like, hey, you know. Because I know it's getting ready to happen.

[B]

The big guys you brought over here are about to just be in the way.

[A]

Well, what's funny is she's like. And she's kind of, like, waiting for these guys. And I'm like, what's up, man? And I know both those guys. Yeah, what's up, jp? And she's like, what is. She's like, you and your friends gotta go. I was like, okay, cool. I was like, all right. So we closed out, went somewhere else. That was it. Next night, we go to a different place, Fox and Hound. And I remember it was snowing because all the places are closed. And we were like, all right, we'll go to the Fox and Hound, get some dinner, some drinks, play some liars poker, and, you know, just having a good time. Well, we're sitting there. Who walks in? Amanda and these two other guys. I'm like, oh, I remember told my buddy. I'm like, dude, that's that chick from last night. And she goes and sits down. Well, she comes over and she's like, y' all gonna start a fight in here, too? Looking at me, I was like, no, ma'. Am. I was like, hey, we didn't start that. I was trying to stop it. I was like, but if you and your boyfriend and friend want to, like, come hang out. And she's like, that's not my boyfriend. I was like, cool. Well, if you guys want to come hang out with us, play some Liar as poker, like, love to have you guys join us. My buddy sitting right next to my. Next to my left, scoots over one seat so she can sit there.

[B]

Good wing man.

[A]

And then the guys fill in every other seat to the end of the table so that the guys are at the very end. But the guys also knew, little cover move, that if they were jerks to these guys, which they wouldn't. But if they were, if they leave, she leaves.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so the guys were, like, just loving on these guys. Like, teach them liars poker, buying them drinks. Like, we're just having fun, hanging out. What A weird concept, just enjoying life and making new friends. And so that's what we're all doing. So we play liars poker all night. We're getting ready to close out, and she hands me a business card, writes her cell phone on it. She goes, hey, if you guys ever need me to keep the kitchen open late after training, just shoot me a text. She was like, love to have you guys back in there, as long as you don't start a fight, right? Yeah. Okay. You know, and so I was like, cool. And so I. So she leaves with her friends, they drop her off. I. I shoot her text, and I was like, hey, this is jp. Really enjoy talking with you, hanging out. Let me know when you get home safe. She texts me, she gets home, I'm back at the hotel. We text all night until my alarm went off, bro. Just back and forth.

[B]

Dang.

[A]

And it was awesome. Well, what's funny is when Amanda shares her version of the story is she was closing down, and one of the things that she would do is she'd call all of her other friends that were managers, say, hey, you know, do you guys need anything? How are things going? Just, you know, checking in on the different places. And so she calls the fox, and hound is like, hey, how's it going? We're. We're shutting down. Almost no one's here. It's snowing. You know, Mississippi doesn't get a lot of snow, so when it snows, it, you know, places are shut down. And. And her friend was like, no, we got a group of seals in here. Blah, blah, blah. And she's like, hey, is there a guy? And describes me. And her friend goes, oh, yeah, jp. And the man is like, what's he like? Like, tell me his. Like, what's.

[B]

Yeah, what's his.

[A]

What's his story?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And she goes, oh, he's awesome. He's super nice. Treats all the girls with respect. They tip us really well. Like, doesn't cause problems. Like, they're awesome. He. He's. He's a really good dude. She's like, okay. And so that's why she went over there.

[B]

Right on.

[A]

And then came over, because she knew, like, I wasn't some dirt bag, right? And. Yeah, and that's. That's what started it.

[B]

That's pretty rad.

[A]

It's pretty cool.

[B]

Yeah. You know what? I. I got some other questions, but I think wrapping up there is a good place to put a bow on it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. So these are not stories that you're going to hear on the Ashland front, Extreme Ownership Academy calls, but you should go check those out. Go to ef.com or sorry, ashlandfront.com to go and check out the stuff that JP does on the day to day. I appreciate you kind of open, pulling back the curtain a little bit and doing a little bit of a fun little Q and A.

[A]

It's funny. And like that next day, obviously I'm hurting because I'm just tired. I'm just exhausted. Literally up until the alarm went off. And I remember it was with the wind chill that day, negative 8 degrees. Oh, gosh. Outside in Mississippi. Yeah, Outside running training. And I remember I was also that day, my role as an instructor was to be walking the catwalks up top as the guys are going through the kill house, doing all of our close quarters combat. And so we're emissivi right next to. We're on the delta right next to the river.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so that wind was just ripping.

[B]

Brutal.

[A]

Just. I remember I was layered up, miserable, had a face mask, another balaclava, beanie hoodie on the jacket, thick car heart jacket. Just all these things. And I took a picture up on the catwalk and sent it to her. And she sends me a picture of her wrapped up in a blanket on her couch. And I was like, I want to be on the couch sleeping right now so bad. Probably just like, I remember, like, just like again, her eyes. Right. Always captivated by her eyes. Still am to this day. But just like that picture also, I was like, dude, this girl's way out of my league. Like, this is. This ain't gonna work. I literally was just like, all right, this isn't. I mean, she's. When she recognizes how far out of my league she is, like, this is not gonna work. And she still hasn't figured it out yet.

[B]

So there you go. Good naivete for the win, though. So was. Was Carlos Mendez one of the guys that was there?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay, so when you sign up for Extreme Ownership Academy, when you're on that live call and you see Carlos, ask him, ask him about the night JP met Amanda. See what his story is about that. Make sure that you go check out the Extreme Ownership Academy. Go check out the courses and stuff that they have. If you want to know how to implement extreme ownership at your company, go check out the books. Extreme ownership dichotomy, leadership, which we've mentioned. And then the need to lead by Dave Burke, who talks a little bit about history. Absolutely incredible. Super insightful to get to see that. Probably like top 0.01% of intelligent people on the planet.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Like, I mean there's, read the book, there's just no two ways about it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Just unbelievable stuff. So go check those things out. Say again.

[A]

Put your legs on.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. By Rob Jones. Yep. Then the new one there, that's out. I, I got to, to preview copies of that so I'm stoked to see what the, what the final product looked like. We need to get Rob back on to talk about that. So yeah, go check out all of that stuff. Make sure that whenever you, you go look at that, you want to get on the path, you want to figure out how to improve and be the best version of yourself. Go to firstaynutrition.com jppod get four free weeks of nutrition coaching. So the next time that you walk into that place and there's the, the good looking waitress, you know, maybe you're not the, the fat or lazy version that I was. So go, go check that stuff out. Jonathan and Ann are awesome. If you are wanting to gain muscle, if you want to lose weight, if you're wanting to do competition prep, if you're just wanting to get in shape in order to be a better parent or to have more functionality in life just in general, they've got awesome programs and stuff that they put together for people. So definitely go check them out. J.P. and I are both working with them and it's been absolutely awesome. Go to jockofuel.com, the best, the cleanest supplements on the planet are [e-mail] and if you use code JPPOD20, you can save yourself 20%. Jockofuel right now they just released the pro series which is a thing called muscle drive which protects your muscles if you're using GLP1s or if you're cutting weight, which is pretty freaking cool because that's always one of the massive struggles that people have is like how do I cut weight and gain muscle? Like it's so hard to do. I've got to be so strict with all this stuff. Gives you a little boost. Then helping out with that, the new pre workout which is awesome. And pro tip, even if you think that you're like, oh, I've got a super caffeine tolerance, once you go ahead and just start with half a scoop, it's, it's, it hits different as the, as the kids say. And then the new pro series protein which is more diverse group of proteins that's there some stuff that's better for your gut health. Also the, the amount of branch chain Aminos and the mix of the habit. Super great. All of it's third party tested, which is awesome. They got creatine, all that stuff. The new warrior kid line has a bunch of really cool stuff. And maybe if your kid's having trouble sleeping or focusing or they need a good multivitamin, they've got all of that stuff. And instead of, you know, the Hanna Barbera gummies that we grew up with, now you get something that's good. And you know what you get a little Mikey. And that's what your kids get thrown at every morning. So make sure that you check that stuff out. Huge shout out to Origin. And if you're not on the Origin messages right now, go sign up for Origin insiders. Go to originusa.com go get on their Instagram, follow it because if you know anything about Origin, they're gearing up for one of their coolest times of the year, which is their drop of fourth of July gear.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And they have some incredibly special stuff planned for America 250th anniversary. It is only going to be out for this year. If you want to get your hands on it before anybody else does, you want to see it before anybody else does, go check it out. American made stuff that you can wear represent the US on her 250s. It's going to be super awesome. Check out on the path printing for all your apparel printing needs as well as little cattle co. Summer is coming. It's here, summer's here. And you're going to need that anti itch cream for the mosquito stuff. You're going to want that after Unc Care. And then you're going to want a A H with your, your logo on it for when winter comes. And you, you're looking at that and you're like I wish it was cold enough to wear those long sleeves because I'm tired of these freaking mosquitoes and sunbirds. Go, go check all that stuff out. And then finally to to JP Laco over at Bruiser Arms they are putting together custom gear packages that are tier leveled now where you can get different stuff at different price points, which is super great. They've got custom training that they do and in that custom training, if you want to do something for yourself or maybe you want to do some team building, you want to do something with your organization, go check that stuff. Outruiserarms on Instagram. Check them out. Shoot him a message. You got any final thoughts for us as we close stuff out for what for me has been a really fun and Insightful episode.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, I think you can relate this to a lot of things in life, if not all things, if you find a way to connect the dots for whatever you're working through. But I think about that story I shared with Amanda and, you know, it would have been a no no matter what had I not said anything.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, you know, in. In my mind it was like, man, this. This is. This absolutely drop dead gorgeous woman who is way outside of my league. And, you know, it's those self imposed limitations that we put upon ourselves and go for it. Like, my closing thoughts would be, go for it. You want. You. You want to get a new job? Go for it. You want to start a business? Go for it. You want to ask the girl of your dreams out on a date? Go for it. Like, why not?

[B]

I think we're evidence that hot girls want husbands too.

[A]

100%. Like, we out kicked our coverage, homie.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

Like, by far.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

And so, like, the only thing that's holding you back in life is you. And once you start taking control over your life, things get a lot better. So take the risk, make the move. Make the most of your life. Hope this episode has been a reminder to go do the work that's needed to put in the effort to build your legacy and to never settle. This has been the JP Donnell podcast, episode 138.