#1704 Red Lobster - Part 1

Summary

Juicebox Podcast: Type 1 Diabetes

Episode #1704: Red Lobster - Part 1
Date: December 9, 2025
Host: Scott Benner
Guest: Jamie

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on Jamie's firsthand experience with a severe hypoglycemic event as an adult living with type 1 diabetes (LADA). Jamie and Scott dive into the details of what happened, why it was so frightening, and how such events impact both the person with diabetes and their loved ones. The discussion also expands to Jamie's diagnosis story, living with multiple autoimmune conditions, and practical strategies for managing diabetes and emergencies.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

Jamie’s Severe Low Experience

• Triggering Event

  • Jamie recounts her first severe low in August. She took insulin for dinner (Cheerios, estimated 55g carbs), but felt unwell and likely ate less than she thought ([04:01–05:41]).
  • Dexcom sensor was off—alarmed at 67 with double arrows down (rapid drop) about 30 minutes after bolus.

• Physical and Mental Effects

  • Rapid onset disorientation: “My body felt really heavy, and my brain felt really adrenaline soaked.” (Jamie, [10:04])
  • Struggled to get to her Baqsimi (glucagon rescue), realized her kit was on the bed with her ([08:36]).
  • Grabbed grape soda (kept on nightstand for emergencies), but was so unsteady she called 911 for fear of throwing up and being alone ([09:22]).
  • “My brain went like, super fast. It was really weird.” (Jamie, [09:33])

• Emergency Response

  • First responders arrived in about 8 minutes, though it “felt like 10 years.” (Jamie, [17:25])
  • They monitored her while she drank soda and ate a protein bar—did not need to go to hospital after sugars stabilized.

Reflections, Emotions, and Learning

• Aftermath and Coping

  • Jamie felt her husband was shaken and watched her Dexcom more closely afterward.
  • Changed Dexcom alarm settings to get earlier alerts for rapid drops ([33:03]).
  • Added Baqsimi to multiple locations around the house, inspired by community suggestions ([33:59]).

• Scott’s Take on Cereal and Eating Habits

  • Lighthearted advice: “I’d love it if you guys didn’t eat cereal for dinner… Why did you not make yourself a piece of chicken and a broccoli…?” (Scott, [06:25])
  • Running joke about eating in the bedroom (“I don’t want you people eating in your bedrooms either. Don’t eat in your bedroom. That’s not okay.” – Scott, [07:31])

• Managing Devices and Settings

  • Emphasized keeping Dexcom drop alarms ON, even if alerts are annoying: “Leave your alarms on. I don’t care if they bother you. That’s what they’re there for.” (Scott, [33:32])
  • Jamie’s husband, due to his job as a bus driver, cannot use Dexcom Follow alerts while driving ([44:37]).

• The Importance of Community

  • Jamie found the podcast through Facebook after posting about her experience, and integrated several listener tips into her own care routines ([47:59]).

Jamie’s Diagnosis Journey

• Slow, Frustrating Diagnosis

  • Initially misdiagnosed as Type 2, GP accused her of non-compliance despite Jamie exercising and essentially eating keto ([21:18–22:03]).
  • Lost nearly 100 pounds unintentionally due to undiagnosed insulin deficiency ([22:26], [23:01]).
  • Endocrinologist quickly identified Type 1 (positive for three antibodies, [25:15]) and started her on insulin.

• Associated Autoimmune Conditions

  • Jamie also lives with anaphylactic allergies (shellfish/fish), Raynaud’s, and psoriasis ([50:19], [50:28], [50:33]).

The “Red Lobster” Story & Anaphylaxis

• Allergic Reaction Incident

  • Severe allergic episode at work after someone brought in steaming lobster (aerosolized protein, [25:41]).
  • First use of an EpiPen—symptoms included itchy eyes, hard to breathe, “itchy inside my lungs.” (Jamie, [26:39])

• Workplace Hazards

  • Repeated incidents of co-workers microwaving fish at work despite her allergy ([28:15]), a point that Scott jokes he’ll add to his “life rules book.”

Personal Life, Relationships, and Diabetes

• Husband Dynamics

  • Married 4 years, together about 10–11 ([35:27]).
  • Jamie’s husband ghosted her for a year and a half early on due to embarrassment about personal issues, but they reconciled ([36:00–39:00]).
  • He supports her, but she mostly manages her diabetes solo: “I feel like I’m an adult and I can handle it and I don’t need help.” (Jamie, [42:33])
  • Struggles to remember carb counts when cooking—possibly related to ADHD ([43:10]).

• Managing With Multiple Autoimmunes

  • Jamie describes proactive and practical strategies (multiple low treatments ready, changing alert settings, open communication with family/friends).

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Noteworthy Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Severe Lows:
  • “I tried to stand up because my Baqsimi was in my purse on the other side of the house… stood up, I fell over, somehow managed to hold onto my phone. I grabbed… grape soda… but only made it halfway.” (Jamie, [08:32])
• On Calling 911:
  • “I called 911 because I was afraid that I was going to throw up the soda because I get really nauseous when I’m lower…” (Jamie, [09:22])
• On Dexcom Drop Alerts:
  • “I have the drop alerts on now… There was a lady on Facebook who suggested taping the Baqsimi in the bathroom… Now it’s right in my face every day.” (Jamie, [33:46])
• Diagnosis & Medical Gaslighting:
  • “My general practitioner at the time kept telling me the reason my numbers were going up was because I was noncompliant and I wasn’t exercising and I was eating too many carbs. And so by the time I made it to the endo… he threatened to put me in the hospital for an eating disorder because I refused to eat carbs.” (Jamie, [21:16–21:49])
• On Relationship Support:
  • “He just let me be me, and he didn’t judge me, didn’t tell me I needed to change.” (Jamie, [40:48])
• Rescuing Humor Through All of It:
  • “Were you attacked with a lobster?” – Scott, [26:16]
  • “I’m saying right now I could murder you with a lobster and get away with it.” – Scott, [26:27]

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Major Segments and Timestamps

• Jamie Introduces Herself and Recounts Severe Low: [03:32–05:58]
• Detailed Play-by-Play of the Low & Emergency Call: [06:25–13:40]
• First Responders Arrive, Recovery, and Aftermath: [16:39–17:45]
• Ways Jamie Adjusted Diabetes Management Afterward: [33:03–34:29]
• Jamie’s Path to Type 1/LADA Diagnosis: [21:18–25:30]
• Living with Multiple Autoimmune Diseases: [50:19–50:33]
• The “Red Lobster” Allergy Story: [25:30–28:35]
• Personal Life and Husband’s Role: [35:27–46:50]

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Tone & Style

The tone is candid, supportive, and frequently humorous. Scott uses gentle ribbing and sarcasm to lighten sometimes-serious or stressful subjects, making the conversation accessible. Both parties are open and reflective; Jamie shares both vulnerabilities and practical tips that will resonate with listeners navigating similar challenges.

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Final Takeaways

• Be proactive about low blood sugar risks, especially when using insulin—plan for unexpected scenarios.
• Don’t ignore or dismiss rapid drop alerts or the importance of rescue medication location.
• Diabetes management benefits from open family communication—even if you’re independent.
• Health care providers can misdiagnose—persistence in getting proper tests matters.
• Community tips (like keeping glucagon visible in every main space) can be lifesaving.
• Humor, resilience, and sharing stories can ease the emotional burden of living with diabetes (and multiple autoimmunes).

To continue the story and hear more from Jamie, listen to Part 2 in the next episode of the Juicebox Podcast.

Transcript

[A]

As the holidays approach, I want to say welcome and thank all of my good friends for coming back to the Juice Box Podcast over and over again.

[B]

Well, I am Jamie. I am a type 1 diabetic. I was diagnosed as Lada when I was, I think 36 and, and so it's been about eight years now. Told everyone my age pretty much. And that's me.

[A]

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[B]

I am a type 1 diabetic. I was diagnosed as Lada when I was, I think 36 in. So it's been about eight years now. Told everyone my age pretty much. And that's me.

[A]

Jamie, I'm just looking at your notes and I realize why you're on and this is going to be interesting. Oh, okay. So you got to the podcast by way of a Facebook post. Can you tell people what you posted about?

[B]

Yep. My low. I had my first severe low ever. It was in August where my, I think my Dexcom wasn't quite accurate and I had probably. I hadn't been feeling that well that day, so my stomach was upset and I had taken insulin for dinner and I did not eat enough carbs.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And then I realized my alarm went off and I was 67. Double arrow down.

[A]

How long after you bolus do you think that number existed?

[B]

Well, I looked at it with my endo and it was like half an hour.

[A]

And you had eaten but just not as much as you anticipated?

[B]

Yeah, that's the only explanation I can come up with.

[A]

Okay, so give me context. How many carbs did you bolus for?

[B]

55. I had some Cheerios.

[A]

My brain goes Cheerio Dios when I hear that. I don't know. Is that like an old commercial that they don't make anymore?

[B]

I'm not sure.

[A]

Yeah, trust me, if I can think of it, it's old and you don't know what it is. So 55 carbs for Cheerios, which should definitely, you know, be reasonable and. But you didn't eat them all.

[B]

I must not have because I didn't measure it. I don't measure anymore. I just look at food and say, okay, this is about what it is and that's what I put in the pump.

[A]

Would you tell me, do you think that you've had that amount of Cheerios about before and used 55 carbs?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Could it have been the illness? Did you have a stomach illness?

[B]

Yeah, my stomach was upset. It could have very easily been that, but nobody really knows. And the endocrinologist looked at it and was like, I have no idea what happened.

[A]

Right. There's some illnesses. Arden gets where her insulin needs go way down.

[B]

Really?

[A]

And I've also seen illnesses that have put her insulin needs up, but I've seen both, so I wonder. But rest of the day, you were okay, though, right? You were eating embolising previous to that, it was okay.

[B]

Yeah. I don't remember what else I ate that day, but I'm pretty sedentary for work. I sit at a computer all day long pretty much, so, you know, there's not a whole lot of movement. Logged out of work, decided, I want some dinner, and ate some dinner quick. Cleaned up a couple things around the house, and then sat down to change my pump. And while I was changing my pump, my alarm went off, and I was like, oh, yeah, that's weird. Yeah. And I, like, pretty much fell over.

[A]

Wait, wait, hold on. We'll get to that. But first, I have no business saying this, and of course, I'm not judging you, but this is maybe to everybody listening, not just to you. I'd love it if you guys didn't eat cereal for dinner. Are you an adult that eats cereal for dinner? Why did you not make yourself a piece of chicken and a broccoli and something to go with it? What happened there?

[B]

I mean, I was home alone, my husband was working late, and I was like, I don't feel like eating real food today. My stomach had been upset. Cheerios sounded good, so that's what I had. All right.

[A]

Do you sugar the Cheerios?

[B]

Nope.

[A]

Yeah. I'm such a. I grew up so poorly, I would definitely have sprinkled sugar over top of Cheerios when I was a kid.

[B]

I don't even add milk to them. Usually I eat them dry right from the box.

[A]

I mean, was there milk in it this time?

[B]

No.

[A]

No. You're just eating a handful of Cheerios like a homeless person. Is that what you're telling me?

[B]

Yeah, pretty much. Yep.

[A]

Sitting in your house, just being, like, long day, handful of Cheerios. Oh, my God.

[B]

I was actually sitting on my bed eating a handful of Cheerios straight from the box.

[A]

I don't want you people eating in your bedrooms either. Don't eat in your bedroom. That's not okay. Do I have to make a list for everybody?

[B]

Maybe, yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

List might be good. Don't do this at home.

[A]

Don't eat. I don't want you eating on your bed. Not after you're 15. Okay.

[B]

I mean, I was home alone. There was nobody here. It was. It was quiet night. I was getting, you know, I was going to get ready to bed, go to bed early.

[A]

That sounds nice.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Were you. Were you like, cuddle. Cuddled up in bed, eating Cheerios, watching tv or just like, sitting on the. I. I need a picture painter. Or were you just sitting sadly on the edge of the bed?

[B]

No, I was, like, watching a TV show. I don't even remember what I was watching.

[A]

It's okay.

[B]

And I was just chilling with the blankets and the cats were here.

[A]

It makes more sense. It makes more sense to me. All right. Okay. I take it back. It's okay. Yeah, but you've got 672 down pretty quickly after you Bolst. And you said you. You fell over. Do you mean, like, physically passed out or do you mean like, it stunned you?

[B]

Like, I tried to stand up because my back seami was in my purse.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

On the other side of the house. And I'm like, I need my Baqsimi, you know, And I wasn't. I was changing my pump. So I had already taken my. My pot off. Didn't occur to me at the time. I kept my baxemi and my kit and the kit was on the bed with me.

[A]

Oh, were you already disoriented?

[B]

I was already disoriented. I stood up, I fell over, somehow managed to hold onto my phone. I grab. I always keep grape soda for middle of the night lows on the nightstand. And I grabbed the three cans there, stood back up and tried to walk towards the other end of the house again. And I only made it halfway. And I called 911 because I was afraid that I was going to throw up the soda because I get really nauseous when I'm lower. Dropping fast.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

And I knew my husband wasn't going to be home until like 9:30. And it was like 8:30. I'm like, if he doesn't get here till 9:30, 10 o', clock, I'm in big trouble.

[A]

You had time to think about all that.

[B]

My brain went like, super fast. It was really weird.

[A]

Okay. And the entire time you're walking across the house, you're walking across the house to get to the back semi, which was on the bed where you started.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Oh, wow. Okay.

[B]

So, yeah.

[A]

Can you describe a little bit in hindsight? Is there a way that you can tell me that it feels. Is it scary? Is it. Does it feel like, time standing still. Like, is there any kind of, like, you know, big ideas you could put to the experience?

[B]

My body felt really heavy, and my brain felt really adrenaline soaked. That's, like the two biggest things, okay? And the 911 dispatcher kept telling me that I was like, I don't even know how much insulin I have on board. And she's like, it's okay. They'll give you your insulin when they get there.

[A]

And you're like, no, I don't want insulin. No insulin?

[B]

Yes. And I was so angry because she wasn't understanding me, that I didn't need insulin. I needed sugar. And. But she kept saying, it'll be okay. They'll get you your insulin. I'm like, but I don't need insulin. You're not understanding me. And she's like, it's okay. They're on their way.

[A]

She's like, I might not understand, but I sent somebody who hopefully will. Now, was your door locked? You know what? Let me take that back. There's no way your door was locked. If you're eating Cheerios on your bed, your door is not locked. Because that would be on my list, by the way, Jamie, when I write down a list of things to do in life, it would be every time you come through a door from the exterior, lock the door.

[B]

Yeah, No, I usually leave, so we have ring cameras, so it alerts me if someone's moving around outside the house. So if I'm home alone, I typically leave the door unlocked.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

This is a prime example of why. Well.

[A]

Well, now. Yet also, I've heard other type ones talk about this, that they. In the back of their head, they're always thinking, if I have an emergency, how is emergency services going to get in the house if the door is locked?

[B]

Right. Do you know how expensive that would have been if they had to kick my door in?

[A]

Tell me that door is not locked because you were worried about the expense if something like this would have happened.

[B]

That is the big. And I was worried about the cost for having 12 firefighters and paramedics show up at my house that night, too. I was like, are they gonna send me a bill?

[A]

Did they charge you by the guy?

[B]

I have no idea. I've not gotten a bill yet, so I don't think I'm gonna get a bill. But, yeah, it was. It was. There was a lot of people in my house.

[A]

Even though it's the end of 2025 and things seem to have settled down, let me point out that I know that Women could be firemen, too, and they would be fire people or fire ladies or fire persons. I don't know exactly what. I've fought fires with women right next to me. So I just said guy, because that's how it occurs to me. But so moving. Oh, my God. I almost fell. I know how you felt when your blood sugar was low for a second.

[B]

I know. I thought about that later, too. Like, how did. My nightstand has sharp corners on it. How did I avoid the corners of my nightstand when I went down? I don't. I have no idea.

[A]

Did you have a seizure at any point, lose consciousness?

[B]

I don't know if I had a seizure. I was not fully unconscious. I know that. But I was definitely uncontrollably shaking, and I thought I had peed my pants.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

But I didn't.

[A]

Oh. I was gonna say, don't tell me if you did or not. We'll find out later. That'll be fun. You felt like you peed your pants, but you didn't.

[B]

I was so sweaty and my body was like. Oh, hot. It was like weird, hot feelings, like, all over my body.

[A]

Did you get any of the numb lips, Numb, numb, numb tongue?

[B]

No, I haven't had that since I was first diagnosed.

[A]

Okay, how about your vision? Did your vision change?

[B]

Yeah, it was like tunnel vision.

[A]

You were getting close. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Did they get there? The 12 women firefighters, do they show up?

[B]

They did. And they all just basically sat there and watched me drink a soda and made me eat a protein bar to level it out. And then they hooked me up to the LifePak. So they checked my blood pressure, which was low. My heart rate was extra high. That was about it.

[A]

Gotcha.

[B]

I think they did an EKG too, because I had little sticky things on my ankles.

[A]

You weren't even sure.

[B]

I don't remember.

[A]

Now, did they leave you there when they were done, did your husband come home? How did it work?

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[B]

Started against medical advice. I did chose. I chose to stay home. They wanted to take me in and I said no because I knew that one I would have to pay for. But I also knew it was a low and I could feel my blood sugar coming back up.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And my husband was on his way home, so they were all pulling out of the driveway as he was pulling in.

[A]

Did you call him first or was he like, why is there a fire truck at my house?

[B]

I did. I called him because I was afraid. I didn't want him to worry and I was afraid one of the neighbors would see them all at my house and call him.

[A]

Oh, yeah, that's a good point. Hey, there's five trucks in front of your home and sirens and lights and. Yeah, yeah, okay, that's a good idea.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So then it didn't take you long to come out of it. So when you got low, you drank the grape soda. By the way, how would you say you were 12? How old are you?

[B]

Yeah, you're 31 every 44 now you're 44.

[A]

Just eating grape soda and Cheerios in your bedroom. Yep. But. So you had you Got the soda in. You were afraid you might vomit up the soda. You felt poorly enough that you were like, I gotta get my glucagon. So my question is, how many other times in your life have you thought, hey, where's my glucagon? I need it.

[B]

Never.

[A]

Never. Okay, so. Oh, that's good. So your brain was helping you. It was like, oh, this is a problem. I should have my glucagon.

[B]

It was trying.

[A]

Yeah, it was trying. So you hadn't ever used it before. You didn't use it this time. You defaulted during your traversing the house to calling 911.

[B]

Mm.

[A]

I mean, have you been able to look back since then? Do you know how long it took him to get to you?

[B]

From when I called 911 to when I see them show up on the camera outside the house, it was roughly eight minutes.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

It felt like 10 years.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And they. They go by the house here, and they whoop their sirens. So I know they're close. And then it still felt like it took them 20 years to get here.

[A]

Oh. So after you could hear them, it's so. Everything was. Felt like, you know. Have you ever heard Arden tell. I don't know if she's talked about it on here, if I've just repeated it. She had a pretty severe low blood sugar after her senior prom, and that she felt like she was. She called it glitching or jumping. I think she called it jumping where she was moving across the room, but, like, she was. I don't know. Like, imagine you're in a room. It's, you know, 15, 20ft long, and you're 20ft from the wall, and then the next thing you know, you're 10ft from the wall, and the next thing you know, you're two feet from the wall, but you don't remember any of the distance in between. Did you ever have that?

[B]

No. No, I didn't know.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Because I heard them, and I was like, if they had just stopped on the busy street right outside our house and come down the hill, they would have already been here. That's what I was thinking.

[A]

That's. You're thinking if I was with them, they would have gotten here quicker.

[B]

Yeah. Because they. And then they have to drive around the block to get in because we're, like, in a weird cubby cul de sac type thing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And so it was. It felt like. And it was probably just a couple more minutes before they got into the door, but I was. It felt like it took forever.

[A]

Weird left turn Jamie, does anybody ever told you have control issues?

[B]

Me? Control issues? No. Come on. Yes. I am a control freak.

[A]

You're a control freak. Because I have to tell you that in the middle of that situation, to have a critique of how someone else is doing their job is absolutely insane.

[B]

I just wanted them to get there because I thought, you know, I felt like I was dying. Like, I literally was. I was like, my God, I'm dying. I'm never going to survive this.

[A]

There's, like, part of me that thinks if my wife passes before me as we're putting her body in the ground, she'll sit up and go, you're doing it wrong.

[B]

I would probably do the same thing. Yeah.

[A]

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[B]

Yeah, I think so. Because there was no. Oh. And my dexcom just decided it's not going to give me readings.

[A]

Awesome. Perfect timing.

[B]

So it's hard for me to say definitively when I was diagnosed because there wasn't. Like I wasn't in dka. I wasn't, you know, it was. I knew something was wrong. My general practitioner at the time kept telling me the reason my numbers were going up was because I was non compliant and I wasn't exercising and I was eating too many carbs.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And so by the time I made it to the endo and had the antibody testing done, he threatened to put me in the hospital for an eating disorder because I refused to eat carbs.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Well. I kept being told that I was eating too many carbs and I was already basically keto, so I had dropped it down and all I was eating was protein.

[A]

When he said that you were non compliant on exercise and eating, was that actually true?

[B]

No, that was my general practitioner. And no, it was not. I was exercising several hours a day and I was eating like I was completely clean eating because I was convinced I was type 2. And I'm like, I'm gonna fix this. I'm gonna lose weight. I'm gonna be healthy. This isn't gonna be an issue. He just kept tell, non compliant. But I am like. And I had lost. I lost like almost £100.

[A]

Whoa.

[B]

Like, I was nothing. I was a little stick. I look at those pictures of me back then and I look, you can see it on me. I look sick.

[A]

Oh. Let's put context to it. How tall are you?

[B]

I'm five foot six.

[A]

Five six. And what did you weigh when you started to lose weight?

[B]

I was over 200. I was probably closer to 220. I've always been chunky.

[A]

Chunky.

[B]

Yeah, Chunky.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Chunky. Chunky.

[A]

I don't know. Chunky was funny. Go with that. Yeah.

[B]

220. 220. I was probably closer to 250 because I was 150 when I went to the endo.

[A]

Wow. And you lost £100?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Just through diet and exercise or was it exercise and not really eating much?

[B]

Exercise and not eating much. And then on top of that, my body wasn't making much insulin, so my body was just.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Not metabolizing any of the food I was eating.

[A]

What was your A1C during that time? Do you know? Do you remember?

[B]

I think I Managed to get it down to eight or nine.

[A]

Okay. And you have down from where?

[B]

When I first went in, it was 13.

[A]

Okay, 13 down to 8 or 9 with the exercise, the not eating. But then the next doctor. It's not your gp, it's a different doctor who says you have an eating disorder. Is that right?

[B]

Yeah. He was like, you need to eat carbs. You at least need to be eating vegetables and fruit every day.

[A]

And you said, if I do that, my A1C is going to be 13 again.

[B]

And I said, if I do that, my blood sugar is out of control.

[A]

Okay. And they called that an eating disorder.

[B]

Yeah, because I was like. I was mad at him. He was like, you need to eat. You cannot. This is not a healthy diet to just eat meat. He goes, I am okay with you eating keto. He said, but you also need to eat the fruits and the vegetables and you need to have those carbs. Those are healthy carbs. And I was like, but I can't, because then my blood sugar goes way out of control.

[A]

What was the answer to that? Do you recall?

[B]

Basically, they put me on insulin almost right away at the end, though. Okay. Yeah, they put me on the insulin. I started with long acting and I was still checking my blood sugar multiple times a day. And he. When I went back to him and I was like, okay, I'm still experiencing a lot of, like, high blood sugars. I'm really struggling. And he was like, well, we can put you back on. We can put you on short, the slow or fast acting, and that can help with after meals. He's like, but you're going to really have to be careful because you're still. He thought I still had some insulin response in my body, and so I did have to be really careful and watch it and make sure I wasn't going low and. But yeah, so they started me on insulin almost right away when I went to the endocrinologist.

[A]

Did you get a C peptide and an antibody test at some point?

[B]

Yep. When I was at the endo, that was the. They did that the first day I was there.

[A]

Okay. And you definitely have type one?

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I am positive for all three antibodies.

[A]

Positive for three antibodies back then. That's eight years ago now. And so have your insulin needs slowly increased? Did they increase slowly then all at once? And they're done. Are they still changing? Where are you at in that pattern?

[B]

They increased relatively slowly. But I will say that when I had. So I've also got anaphylactic allergies and I Had an exposure that sent me to the emergency room.

[A]

I'm sorry, give me some description about that. Anaphylactic allergies.

[B]

So I'm super allergic to fish and shellfish. And somebody walked up to me with lobster, steaming lobster, which aerosolizes the protein. And I inhaled, and I ended up going to the emergency room. And after that, my insulin needs shot up, and it stayed where they were at.

[A]

Probably doesn't matter to anybody but me. But why was somebody wandering around with a lobster? And didn't they know that you had a shellfish allergy?

[B]

They did.

[A]

Was this an attack? Were you attacked with a lobster?

[B]

No, but wouldn't that be funny? Could you imagine being attacked with a lobster and then dying? Because, like, that would be an interesting way to go. That's morbid.

[A]

I'm saying right now I could murder you with a lobster and get away with it. Not now that I know, but if I pretend that I didn't know I could.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah, you could.

[A]

How quickly could it hurt you?

[B]

I usually know pretty quickly when I've been exposed. It starts with my eyes being itchy, and then my nose and my mouth and my throat get itchy. And then in this particular instance, it would have been my first time using the EpiPen. And so I really. I was afraid to use the EpiPen. And my chest got, like. It was itchy inside. Like, my lungs itched. I don't know how to describe that to somebody who has never experienced it, other than it itched in my lungs and, like, under my sternum. And it was really hard to breathe. I kept having to, like, cough.

[A]

What happened? How did you. How did you traverse it?

[B]

I actually. I didn't even call 91 1. My mom came and picked me up from work.

[A]

Were you working at the. At the Red Lobster? No.

[B]

No, I was not.

[A]

You shouldn't have a job there is what I was gonna tell you.

[B]

Right. I should never work there. I don't even go into Red Lobster. It terrifies me. I'd never survive.

[A]

Red Lobster is terrifying. I hear what you're saying.

[B]

And not just because I'm allergic to fish and shellfish.

[A]

It might be for other reasons. Can you tell me where you are?

[B]

I'm in Minnesota.

[A]

No, no, when. When the lobster attack happened.

[B]

Oh, I was at work.

[A]

Yeah, but what kind of, like, I don't need to know the name of the place, but, like, what kind of work? Like, at your office? Job.

[B]

Retail loss prevention.

[A]

Retail loss prevention? Who's eating that well in a retail loss prevention situation? Having a lobster.

[B]

Well, that, to me, is the whole higher end. It's a higher end retailer. Yeah.

[A]

That's the whole story to me. I could do a whole hour on where that lobster came from, how we ended up in this situation. Who thought having lobster at lunch today at that place was a good idea.

[B]

People did it all the time. I would walk into the break room and somebody had microwave fish. And I would be in, like, an anaphylactic like, that. I didn't realize because the allergies were still new to me as well. And so I'd walk in and my eyes would swell shut and I'd be like, coughing. I had no idea I was in anaphylactic shock.

[A]

I'm not laughing at you, by the way. I'm just. I'm laughing at the idea of people microwaving their fish at work again. On my list of things I got to make for you people. You can't do that.

[B]

Does that.

[A]

Yeah, you should have seen the guy. If you're listening, sir, shame on you. The guy on my flight. I was on a flight to Orlando to go to Touch by Type one a couple weekends ago. And like, three rows ahead of me, across the aisle on the aisle is a guy just barefoot on the airplane. Just vile. And I've heard from people who do it, and they're like, it's not a big deal. I'm like, that's fair. You can have your thoughts on that. The rug is not the color that God intended it to be. And that's from dirt. Okay? There he is with the thing. Then he's gotta go to the bathroom. Goes to the bathroom without his shoes on. That freaked me out. Comes back, starts digging in the overhead. By the way, while the. While the stewardess is on the microphone and this is what she's saying. I want to remind everybody that the captain has not turned off the fastened seatbelt sign. We're still in our ascent. It's not time. You can't get out of your. She was confused. She's like, you can't get out of your seats right now. He had gotten up, peed without his shoes on. Was digging in the overhead compartment all while we were still climbing. And it was not for any of you. You're like, well, he might have really had to be. Trust me. This was just a guy on his own journey, okay? And so then he. Then he fishes out some big, like, plastic bag, like, you'd get for takeout. I can see inside of it one of those Styrofoam shell Like, containers. And he pulls it down. There's steam still coming out of it. It smells the high heaven, terrible. I don't know what it was. And then he sits down on his feet, like, do you know how you can sit on your feet, like, underneath of you? So then he sat on his feet and settled in and cracked that thing open and started eating with a plastic fork. And I was just like, am I going to have to make a book so that people know not to do. Like, what are we going to do? Exactly. And then I hear you're eating in your bedroom. But on the. I think I need to make a book. The point is, he scarfed that down.

[B]

Yikes.

[A]

And the whole time on his right, in the middle section, a woman. And I think, oh, God. Like, her, you know, this guy's poor wife. Like, I guess she's used to it, you know? And then it's like an hour later when I realized, that is not his wife. He does not know that woman. And she's horrified. The entire flight. His wife is actually across the aisle from him. And I thought, well, there's a lady who's flown with him before and thought, no, no, I'll sit on the other side of the aisle.

[B]

There's.

[A]

Okay, yeah. You know, he looks like the kids and he makes a decent living. So I'm not getting rid of him, but I'm not sitting next to him on a plane. But horrifying. Anyway, please don't open hot food on an airplane and start eating it, especially.

[B]

If it's fish or shellfish, because what if somebody's deathly allergic?

[A]

Well, yeah. I mean, because, yeah, it could have killed you for sure. And if it was the wrong thing. I'm making my points here. I'm making a lot of sense today. I want everybody to listen to me. Okay? Now, do you think, by the way, 10 minutes ago, I asked you about your Lada. I asked so that I could ask this question.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Do you think on the day you got low, there was any help coming from your pancreas, or do you think you're long past that now?

[B]

I think if there was help coming from my pancreas, it would have been like, a random, weird coincidence.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And I don't really believe in coincidences.

[A]

Just. Right, Listen, for those of you who don't make a podcast, you have to be impressed. I'm telling you to be impressed that I took that one question in my head and turned it to 10 solid minutes of content. You're welcome.

[B]

That is pretty impressive.

[A]

Yeah, thank You. It's my only skill, Jimmy. Now, when your husband gets home, you're being ver. Actually, you know, somebody said to me the other day, you have to stop making fun of yourself on the podcast. It makes me upset.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

So for you, it's just. It's a self effacing humor. Don't worry, I'm good. I'm okay. I think I must have said to somebody, I'm like, I'm not that smart. And people are like, you are smart. I'm like, oh, my gosh. What are you, my preschool teacher? Thank you. It was lovely, but I'm okay. So your husband gets home, you catch him up, and then, I mean, is there anything else from there? Do you talk about it? Are you shook? Like, what's the rest of the night look like?

[B]

He was upset. He tried to hide it, I think, because like the next several days, he definitely paid way more attention to my Dexcom. I ended up changing my alarm settings a little bit so that I get an alert if I'm double arrow down before I'm at 67.

[A]

You got it freaked out too?

[B]

Yeah. Yeah, because I. I feel like there should have been some warning.

[A]

Does double arrows not beep? No matter where it is, if you.

[B]

Have that alarm off, it will not tell you. And I had shut it off because I'm on Omnipod 5.

[A]

Jamie, Jamie, Jamie. Jam. Jamie, Jamie, Jamie, Jamie, Jamie. What? Listen, let's put this whole interview aside and you just start telling me everything you're doing, and I'll tell you if it's right or not. Okay? How's that sound?

[B]

Let's do it.

[A]

All right, everyone, leave your alarms on. I don't care if they bother you. That's what they're there for. Oh, so you had your alarms off?

[B]

Yeah, I had. So the low alarm was set for 75, but I didn't have like the drop alerts on.

[A]

Right.

[B]

So I have the drop alerts on now. And then the other thing that we did, there was a lady on Facebook who suggested taping the baxeme in the bathrooms, like to the mirror.

[A]

Okay. I mean, that's not a style decision, but go ahead.

[B]

No, but what a smart idea because now it's right in my face every day. We have a baximee in the bathroom upstairs, which is our main bathroom. And then I also have one taped to the basement garage door so that there's one downstairs too. So we have that going. So it's like right in everybody's face. Everybody knows what it is. And it's not likely I'm gonna forget it's there because I see it every day.

[A]

Right. Did you have a conversation with your husband? Like, hey, I'm sure you knew about this before, but let's do a refresher on this Baxemi and everything else.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

How long do you think he was scared for? And did you hate it when he was paying more attention in the days that followed, or was it comforting?

[B]

I didn't hate it. It just was different. It's not a normal. He doesn't normally pay any attention to my Dexcom. I usually handle everything on my own. My mom is the one who follows and will call me, like, hey, I'm getting low alerts. Are you okay? And if I don't answer, the sheriff's department will show up at the door.

[A]

And if she would have called during your incident, that wouldn't have helped you. Really? Not that time? Yeah.

[B]

No.

[A]

How do you feel? Do you feel any certain way about him not having that much interest in your diet? Is it interest he doesn't have or is just the way you guys have had it set up? I guess my first question is, how long have you been together?

[B]

We just celebrated our fourth anniversary, but we've known each other for probably 10 or 11 years.

[A]

So you got the beats when you were already knowing him at least?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Were you sexy time when you got it, or were you just friends?

[B]

Wait, can you rephrase the question? What?

[A]

Were you guys dating when you got diabetes or are you just friends at that point?

[B]

We had dated for a while, and then we broke up for a while, and then we got back together.

[A]

Did he do something wrong?

[B]

He ghosted me. He's gonna be so embarrassed. I told everybody this.

[A]

Did he really?

[B]

He ghosted me? Yeah. He had some issues going on in his personal life, and he was embarrassed, and so he basically just ended things without. And I was.

[A]

Without letting you know?

[B]

Yeah, pretty much.

[A]

Jamie. After how long?

[B]

Oh, gosh. We had been together for a year at that point.

[A]

Get the out of here. Really?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Yeah. But, you know, I knew he was the one. Like, I knew. And so I was pretty upset when he left, but I was like, okay, well, life goes on. But then he texted me through Facebook and was like. Sent me a. No, he sent me a friend request on Facebook, and I texted him back on messenger, and I was like, I think you got hacked, because you just friend requested me. And he was like, no, no, that was me. And I was like, okay, well, here's the Deal. You're either gonna be a part of my life, or you're not gonna be a part of my life.

[A]

What are wrong with boys? How do they mess that up so badly?

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

Have you. Did you make him figure it out before you let him come be back in together with you? Awesome.

[B]

Yep. Did you make him explain himself, sit.

[A]

Across from you at, like, a restaurant and explain the whole thing to you?

[B]

Yeah, pretty much.

[A]

What restaurant was it?

[B]

It was. I think we got Chipotle and hung out and sat. Chipotle's were my favorite places to eat. So. Yeah. And he had to explain to me, like, look, I was really embarrassed because I had some money issues going on, and it just was like, I don't care if we're gonna be a couple. Like, the money issues are a thing we face together, because we're together. And so he has worked really hard at that. And he, you know, is. He's still a guy. He still has some learning, but he's.

[A]

He's still a little dopey. He's still trying to figure it out.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. That's okay. I'm sure I'll have it all straight by the time he's 60, maybe.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

He's been, you know, he's like my best friend. He's my soulmate. He's the. The thing that keeps me sane in my life, and he's my rock. So. Saner.

[A]

Let's say saner. Jamie.

Let'S not go. Let's not go planning our flag in the mountain of sane, okay? We've only been talking for 36 minutes. I don't know if you're sane or not yet.

[B]

I'm not. No, I'm probably not. He keeps me as close to sane as possible.

[A]

That's it. Let's be more accurate. Wait, but wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I have more. Can I ask more questions? I have more questions.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

You're telling me. He just is, like. You're, like, hanging out one day doing something, and then the next day he's not there, and then the next day he's not there, and then it goes on for multiple days, and you think to yourself, hey, it's weird. I haven't talked to that guy in a while, that I've been dating for a year. I wonder what happened to him. And then you text him and go, hey, are you okay? And he doesn't respond pretty much.

[B]

I knew right. Right away that he had blocked me because he stopped talking. Like, he stopped responding. Yeah. And On Facebook. He was gone. On Facebook and social media, and he had removed, like, my family members and my friends from his Facebook, so I knew something had happened. I just didn't know 100% what it was. I suspected what it was, Jimmy, but. Yeah.

[A]

Wow. I have to listen. No judgment. Meanwhile, everything I say is judgment, but just assume. I don't assume. I don't mean any judgment by this. I don't think my wife would let me see her calves again if I did that to her, let alone, like, redate me. I don't think she'd let me look at her in shorts. I think she'd be like, no, I'm sorry. This isn't for you anymore. You were so taken with him. How long were you not together after the break?

[B]

It was like a year and a half.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

You're a. Yeah.

[A]

Wow. Did you date in that time? Somebody else?

[B]

I did.

[A]

Yeah. Somebody he knew. You probably picked somebody you knew on purpose, right?

[B]

No, actually, I didn't.

[A]

No. I might.

[B]

All of his friends are married.

[A]

I just realized I might be a slutty girl. If I was a girl, I was like.

Yeah, I'd find his best friend and definitely go out with him. But all of his friends are married. Like, so you. Okay, so you went out. Now I'm interested. You're out and you're dating other people. You just didn't find anybody that you jived with as well as you did with the guy who ghosted you?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I ask a serious question. Is that upsetting when you realize that?

[B]

A little bit. But I just knew, like, I had never had as much fun with anybody else as I did with him. And I knew that, like. Like, we did goofy things, like go to Claire's, and he would put the goofy little crowns on his head, the princess crowns, and goof off. And, like, that was so much fun to me. And he would. You know, he just let me be me, and he didn't judge me, didn't tell me I needed to change. He didn't tell me I needed a. You know.

[A]

Right.

[B]

So it just. And then he was just gone.

[A]

Yeah. This thing happened that he was so flustered by. He didn't want you to see it. And that's it. And that is how I explained it to you a year and a half later. Do you. Did he date anybody in that year and a half?

[B]

He did not.

[A]

Yeah. Interesting.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Is he very loyal now?

[B]

He. Yes. Yeah.

[A]

I bet he tells you. Good.

[B]

I'm. I'm also very loyal to him. Like, he always Feels like he can't make it up. I think that he can't make up for that mistake. But at the same time, like, I don't know how to describe this. This man has the biggest heart for the world that I have ever seen in my life. Like, it does not matter who you are. If you had just insulted him and you needed a T shirt, he would take the shirt he's wearing and hand it to. That is how he is. And he loves his family. His family comes first. And we like it. Just his heart is so incredible. And I can't even.

[A]

I'm sure he'll be touched to hear you describe him that way. I want to understand, though, how that person that you just described doesn't know that much about your diabetes. How does that work? You're diagnosed, he knows you, you have type one. You know, I mean, lot of. But I mean, you're taking insulin, right? So probably tell people you have Type one when they ask. I'd imagine, oh, yeah.

[B]

And I wear my devices where everybody in the world can see them.

[A]

Everybody knows about it. He knows about it. He's a big hearted guy. Are you keeping him from knowing about your diabetes? Is he staying at arm's length from it? Like, why does that connection not exist in the beginning like that?

[B]

I think it's. It's probably me being stubborn.

[A]

Okay, tell me more, because I feel.

[B]

Like I'm an adult and I can handle it and I don't need help. The only thing that honestly drives me bonkers is that. So he doesn't like to read the food labels, okay? Which is changing now because he also has to start watching what he's eating. And so he'll bring me, like, he'll make dinner and he'll bring me food and I'll be like, so how many servings is this? And how many grams of carbs? And he's like, well, I have no idea.

[A]

But you made it and you got all the packages over there, right?

[B]

Right? Yeah. So I'm like, but, sir, come on.

[A]

Is this a math problem? Is he bad with math?

[B]

No, he's very good with math. I think it's a. He's. He's got adhd, okay? And I think it's. I think it's an ADHD thing. He just forgets. He gets so excited about cooking and eating and all the flavors that he just doesn't stop to think about the grams of carbs and the serving sizes.

[A]

I just had a joke pop into my head and I thought, I wonder if people with ADHD would be upset if I said that.

[B]

I don't know. He's pretty laid back about it.

[A]

Well, I'm not worried about him. I'm worried about everyone else listening who has ADHD might be offended, but I thought, like, maybe he didn't really ghost you. Maybe just forgot about you for a while.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Maybe he just got busy.

[B]

That's going to be the new joke. Yeah, he just forgot.

[A]

He should have just said, hey, I'm so sorry, but, like, I picked up this new thing on Netflix and then I started putting puzzles together and I forgot.

[B]

Right. Yeah.

[A]

Sorry.

[B]

Yeah, no, it's okay. So, yeah, he, he just doesn't think about it and now he's finally starting to get it. Okay, okay. If I make like a frozen pizza real quick or whatever for dinner that I need to look at how many grams of carbs are in the serving I'm handing her?

[A]

And he's being really thoughtful about it. And did the, did the low blood sugar, did it speed him up a little bit about his interest and concern, or did that only happen for a little while? And it went. And then it kind of went back to normal after.

[B]

I don't know how often Ian checks my blood sugar anymore, honestly.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I think he still looks. I don't know. But the other issue is. So he drives professionally for a living. And he can't have alarms on his phone while he's driving. So his alarms, his follow alarms are off.

[A]

His follow alarms are off. He's not allowed to have. What's he driving? The money bosses. Oh, he's driving people.

[B]

Yeah, I see.

[A]

And they don't want, they don't want his ship beeping while he's with them.

[B]

Yeah, they don't want any distractions while he's driving a bus.

[A]

He's a limo driver.

[B]

No, he drives a bus. Like, like the city buses.

[A]

You said buses. I thought you said bosses.

[B]

No, buses. Oh, it's that Minnesota accent going on.

[A]

No, I honestly thought, like, oh, he's probably got, he's got like some important guy in a town car and he's running them all over, by the way. Also, women could be important. You know what I mean? And yeah, so he's driving a city bus. So that's part of. Well, that makes sense. Yeah. I, I just want to say right now, I don't want anybody driving a bus looking at their phone.

[B]

Right. Don't look at your phone.

[A]

I watched a guy two days ago. First of all, he's in the right lane in a two lane situation. The speed limit's 55. He's going 35, does not know it. As I come up next to him thinking, like, what, is he trying to get us all killed? I go around and. And I look over, and he has just got, like, a tablet in his hand. It's not even a phone, it's a tablet. And he's reading, and I'm like, what. Why. Why are you so important? You know? I mean, like, does that. Yeah, well, why is this person so important that this is the only time they have to read? You know? Like, I. I don't know. Like, I looked at him. I didn't. I didn't see. I didn't see a world leader in the car. But, I mean, maybe. Maybe he was making big decisions about something. I have no idea. Anyway, that freaked me out. And I don't want bus drivers doing that, so he can't do that. Could he have an Apple watch that had, like, a follow on it? Do they do that? Does that watch have a follow?

[B]

He hates watches. He never wears them.

[A]

I see. I see.

[B]

So, I mean. And I'm. Honestly, I'm okay with it. Like, we don't need two sets of alarms going off when we're together either. Like, it just. It's enough if my phone goes off and I keep a watch with my numbers on it, and sometimes he'll look at my watch to see what I'm at, and it's all right.

[A]

Yeah. Do you have any residual fear left over from the low? Does it stick in your head now, a couple of months later, or have you pretty much gone back to normal?

[B]

I've pretty much gone back to normal. I feel like I didn't have a whole lot of fear, even in the beginning. I guess I let myself run a little bit higher than I would have normally, but I also am just like I've been doing. You know, I started your podcast way back when I first got diagnosed, so my theory has always been to be bold with insulin. And I knew that a low like that could happen. And I also know that a low like that is not the end of the world. Even though in the moment it felt like it was gonna be the end of it. But I know that lows are gonna happen. And there's reasons I keep low snacks. There's reasons I wear a Dexcom. There's reason I have vaccini with me everywhere I go. Like, that's the reason. And even with a Dexcom, sometimes it's not perfect. It's technology, and sometimes technology doesn't Work. Right. And I think in this instant, Dexcom said that I bottomed out at 55. Now I have been 55.

[A]

Didn't feel like that.

[B]

This was not 55. This was more like probably 30.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Ish or. Yeah.

[A]

Did the squad not do a finger stick?

[B]

They did. And by the time they got here, I was already going back up.

[A]

Grape soda was helping.

[B]

Yeah. The grape soda had been, like, in. And it was going.

[A]

So what's a good brand of grape soda?

[B]

I don't know. I buy. We buy the cub. I would have to get up and look.

[A]

Wait, you. You buy the what?

[B]

We buy it from cub. Cub foods.

[A]

I don't know what that is. I don't live in that wasteland. You live in. In Minnesota. Almost Canada, wherever the hell you are.

[B]

I know, right? Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's super chill.

[A]

It's super. Wait, that's what the soda's called?

[B]

Yeah, super chill. It's a generic. It doesn't have caffeine in it. So if I use it at night, it's not keeping me awake all night.

[A]

Very nice. Hold on. I'm looking it up. Also, I just put a piece of candy in my mouth. I don't know why. I've never done that before. It was stupid. Now I get to get rid of it. Super chill.

[B]

Yeah. Grape soda. They have orange soda stuff, too. They have root beer.

[A]

Look at that. I've never seen that in my life.

Isn't that interesting? They make club soda, too, if you ever need club soda.

[B]

I just wanted something that had several grams of sugar and carbs and didn't have caffeine. And the grape soda is where we ended up.

[A]

Can I tell you something? Super chill has something here called diet mountain chill. It's in a green bottle, and between you and me, it's a direct Mountain Dew ripoff. And I say to them, well done, because I looked at it, I knew exactly what it was supposed to be.

[B]

Yeah, it doesn't quite taste like. Unless they've changed the formula since the last time I had. It doesn't quite taste like Mountain Dew.

[A]

Have you tried it?

[B]

And I don't. Yes. I don't like diet. I prefer the zeros.

[A]

Okay. Some good super chill information.

[B]

Yeah. And I don't think Super Chill has zero.

I get Dr. Pepper zero. The Mountain Dew zero. Those are my two go tos if I need caffeine. But. Well, personally, I prefer coffee. Kind of a crazy coffee person, but yeah.

[A]

Crazy coffee person. I like how you said coffee. Thank you for saying coffee.

[B]

I love coffee.

[A]

Do you have Raynauds?

[B]

I do have Raynaud's.

[A]

I just looked at the, at the notes and I was like, oh, I didn't see that before.

[B]

I have Raynaud's. I have anaphylactic allergies and I also have psoriasis.

[A]

Awesome. Stop. Just kidding. Where's the psoriasis at?

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