#1711 Out of Shell - Part 2

Summary

Juicebox Podcast: Type 1 Diabetes

Episode #1711 – Out of Shell, Part 2

Host: Scott Benner
Guest: Janelle
Date: December 17, 2025

Episode Overview

In this heartfelt and humor-filled episode, Scott Benner welcomes back Janelle to continue their honest conversation about the emotional, mental, and daily realities of parenting a child with Type 1 diabetes (T1D). The episode centers on Janelle’s journey to reclaim her identity, addressing “mom guilt,” the anxieties of diabetes management, balancing family needs, and mental health—while embracing imperfection, self-forgiveness, and strategies to avoid letting diabetes overshadow life.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Living in “The Box” of Diabetes Parenting

• Janelle’s Struggle with Identity
  • Since her child’s diagnosis, Janelle feels boxed into the role of a “pancreas mom”, experiencing a loss of personal identity beyond caring for her child’s diabetes.
  • (02:40): "I've kind of just like put myself in this like tiny little box…I'm sick of living in the box." – Janelle
• Host’s Empathy and Personal Reflection
  • Scott discusses his and his wife's efforts not to let one child feel ignored but admits both their kids felt overlooked, illustrating the impossibility of perfect balance.
  • (03:43): "I genuinely believe that my wife and I did a great job of not letting either of our children feel ignored. Yeah, they both felt ignored." – Scott

2. Sibling Dynamics and Family Balancing Acts

• Conscious Effort for Both Kids
  • Janelle and her husband structure one-on-one time with their daughter to offset the demands of T1D care for their son.
  • (03:18): “I try to make a conscious effort when I can of, you know, pulling her aside…But then that's also where my husband has stepped in.” – Janelle
• The Unspoken Truth of Parenthood
  • Scott highlights that perceived parental effort often doesn’t match a child's experience, and that this is a universal struggle.

3. Emotional Toll, Anxiety, and Guilt

• Burnout and Overwhelm
  • Janelle describes how diabetes management consumes her energy, often leaving mundane tasks undone and building anxiety.
  • (05:10): "I genuinely just spend so much time pouring myself into type one that it's like I let everything else fall to the wayside." – Janelle
• Worry as a “Waste of Imagination”
  • Scott reminds Janelle of his mantra, challenging her to question excessive worry.
  • (05:56): "Have you ever heard me say that worry is a waste of imagination?" – Scott

4. Managing Anxiety, Therapy, and Self-Awareness

• Admitting to Worry and Seeking Support
  • Janelle acknowledges her anxiety and coping attempts, which include therapy (and, humorously, marijuana, with little success).
  • (12:06): "I think a decent amount was self realization, but the therapy definitely helped." – Janelle
• The Vicious Cycle of Parental Overthinking
  • Both agree on the negative impact of over-managing: it can create distance between parent/child and set up future challenges—paralleling their own experiences.
  • (11:39): "If you have a bad relationship because of how you’re over-focusing on the diabetes, that probably leads him more towards not taking care of himself..." – Scott

5. Shifting Perspective: The Macro View

• Letting Go of Perfection
  • Scott encourages seeing diabetes parenting as guiding a ship (“steering the Titanic”) rather than micro-managing every detail, to foster a healthy, autonomous future adult.
  • (13:22): "You gotta stop putting it on yourself and start thinking bigger picture…"

6. Role Modeling and “Faking It Until You Make It”

• The Impact of Parental Attitude
  • Janelle worries her own anxieties might become her son’s outlook toward diabetes. Scott suggests, if needed, to “pretend” calm so her son internalizes resilience, not fear.
  • (17:45): "Pretend that you're calm. Okay. Yeah. And then he'll be calm. And then, hopefully, you'll actually be calm, because the goal here is that you'll see that he's not going to die, that nothing terrible is happening, and you'll chill the fuck out." – Scott

7. Humor & Real-Life Examples—Coping, Connection, and Self-Care

• Mixing Real Talk with Levity
  • The conversation is peppered with jokes and relatable situations (parenting, marriage, sex, pizza debates, generational differences, pop culture), making space for laughter while discussing tough realities.
  • (22:04–29:34): Scott prescribes a date, sex, and fun as essential self-care, to be “cool like Fonzie” and avoid letting diabetes dominate every aspect of life.
• Quote:
  (22:19): "You this a lot better than you think you do." – Scott

8. Moving Forward Despite Doubt

• Lack of Confidence in Change—and Hope for Growth
  • Both acknowledge the difficulty of altering ingrained behaviors, humorously predicting future conversations, but land on the hope that experience and time will foster healthier dynamics.
  • (19:30): “I have no confidence you're going to do any of these things.” – Scott
    (19:36): “Oh, I don’t blame you, because I don’t have the confidence either.” – Janelle

9. The Essence of Good Parenting

• Simple, Consistent Presence
  • Janelle is reminded that it’s not about mastering every diabetes detail, but about being loving and steady—the “basic things” are what matter in shaping children.
  • (24:12): "That should tell you that those are really the only things your kids need from you. Really. The rest of this is sort of bull." – Scott

10. Self-Reflection & Authentic Living

• Who am I without Anxiety?
  • Janelle shares she feels more herself—like the person she’d like to be—when she’s temporarily not consumed by worry.
  • (42:28): "I think I’m just sitting here not worried about Paxton's blood sugars right now, and it's mostly as simple as that." – Janelle
• Scott’s Wish for Listeners
  • He closes with a sincere wish for all parents to experience freedom from chronic anxiety, validating that their worries are real but shouldn’t rule their lives.
  • (44:25): "I wish you could feel what it feels like not to have that hanging over your head."

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Parental Guilt:
  "[Parenting] really is true—no matter what you do, someone is gonna say, well, what about this?" – Scott (04:22)
• Spotlighting “Mom Guilt”:
  "This mother's guilt thing...it's horrible. I don't know...But that's back when nature didn't expect you to live past 30." – Scott (13:11)
• Modeling the Right Relationship:
  "Seeing him have a better relationship with his diabetes than I do, because if he looked at diabetes the way I do, that would break my heart." – Janelle (16:07)
• On Overthinking:
  "Don't overthink the overthinking." – Scott (20:42)
• Humor on Parenting & Sex:
  "What do we do? We go sex, a movie, that's nice...Then you go to have some lunch, and then you go get the kid." – Scott (29:42)
  "Hey, if your husband gets laid out of this, I expect a thank you note." – Scott (31:00)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• 00:00–03:02 – Janelle’s discomfort, identity after diagnosis
• 03:02–04:22 – Sibling attention, unavoidable parental guilt
• 05:10–06:25 – Overwhelm, exhaustion, the mental load
• 07:03–11:13 – Impact of anxiety, managing burnout
• 12:06–13:22 – Therapy, self-realization, bigger picture
• 16:07–17:59 – Modeling for children, importance of attitude
• 20:42–22:17 – Overthinking, a prescription for rest and self-care
• 24:12–25:28 – The true essence of what kids need
• 27:00–29:34 – Breaking the cycle with humor, pop culture, and perspective
• 42:28–44:49 – Janelle’s self-realization, who she wants to be
• 44:25–End – Host’s candid reflections and closing wishes

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Episode Summary & Insights

Janelle’s story is a relatable, sometimes painful, often funny look at the psychological toll of managing a child’s chronic illness—how it threatens to consume identity and relationships if left unchecked. The conversation with Scott is a blend of empathy, lived experience, irreverent advice, and real hope. The message is: you’re not alone, mistakes are inevitable, your love matters more than perfection—and that cultivating calm (even if you have to “fake it”) is the best legacy, for your kids and yourself.

Takeaways:

• Step back, trust yourself—you’re doing better than you think
• Prioritize your own well-being as essential, not selfish
• The identity and emotional health of every family member, including the “pancreas parent”, matters
• Keep your sense of humor and allow room for imperfection

Standout Quote:
"You're not worrying about things that aren't real. The things you're concerned about are actually real. Yeah, it seems like you're just putting too much weight into them." – Scott (19:57)

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Transcript

[A]

Hello friends. Welcome to the Juice Box Podcast. Happy holidays to everyone juggling carbs, cookies and the chaos of this season.

[B]

Hi, I'm Janelle. That's it. I don't got a lot about me, really. I really don't. That's the funny. That's the funny thing. This is out of my comfort zone.

[A]

This is part two of a two part episode. Go look at the title. If you don't recognize it, you haven't heard part one yet. It's probably the episode right before this near podcast player. If you're living with type 1 diabetes, the after Dark collection from the Juice Box Podcast is the only place to hear the stories that no one else talks about. From drugs to depression, self harm, trauma, addiction and so much more. Go to juiceboxpodcast.com up in the menu and click on After Dark. There you'll see a full list of all of the After Dark episodes. If you're looking for community around type 1 diabetes, check out the Juice Box Podcast. Private Facebook group Juice box podcast type 1 diabetes but everybody is welcome. Type 1, type 2 gestational loved ones. It doesn't matter to me. If you're impacted by diabetes and you're looking for support, comfort or community, check out Juice box podcast type 1 diabetes on Facebook. While you're listening, please remember that nothing you hear on the Juice Box Podcast should be considered advice, medical or otherwise. Always consult a physician before making any changes to your healthcare plan or or becoming bold with insulin. This episode of the Juice Box Podcast is sponsored by the Dexcom G7, the same CGM that my daughter wears. Check it out now at dexcom.com juicebox Today's episode is also sponsored by the Omnipod 5. And at my link omnipod.com juicebox you can get yourself a free. What I just say? A free Omnipod 5 starter kit. Free. Get out of here. Go click on that link omnipod.com/juicebox. Check it out. Terms and conditions apply. Eligibility may vary. Full terms and conditions can be found@ omnipod.com juicebox links in the show notes links@juicebox podcast.com so how is this going to help you break out of your norms? Like, what is it you hoping to like on this little journey of yours? Where are you trying to get to?

[B]

I don't think I've really figured that out yet. I think like after his diagnosis, I've kind of just like put myself in this like tiny little box and I haven't ever forced myself to really come out of the Box, and I'm sick of living in the box, so we're just gonna, like, try a bunch of things and see what kind of helps me get there.

[A]

And the box is you being a tool of his health and you feel like you're not much more than that.

[B]

Yeah, I'm quite literally, like, most days, I'm like, I'm quite literally on this earth to be a pancreas.

[A]

Okay. And is that impacting your other child? Is that impacting Ember at all?

[B]

I mean, I think to some degree, just because. Not, like, obviously on purpose or anything, but Paxton does require so much extra attention. And so I try to make a conscious effort when I can of, you know, pulling her aside and, like, spending extra time with her. But then that's kind of also where my husband is stepped in and, you know, is taking her out, you know, for, like, daddy daughter dates and stuff like that. So that way she doesn't feel like she gets any less love.

[A]

Want me to break your heart? Sure.

[B]

Go for it.

[A]

I genuinely believe that my wife and I did a great job of not letting either of our children feel ignored. Yeah, they both felt ignored.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. I don't know how to, like.

[B]

I think I can agree to that somehow, too, because Paxton gets all this attention all day, every day, and he's still like, you guys never spend enough time with me.

[A]

Cole told us recently. Like, I just remember it always being about Arden, and Arden was like, you guys were always at baseball with Cole. And I was like, wait, what matter.

[B]

What you do, it's never enough.

[A]

I was like, you sons of bitches.

[B]

Like, the two of you, be grateful.

[A]

Well, this is why people just sit around and drink. Because, like, they're probably like, it don't matter what you do, the kid's gonna hate you at the end anyway. And I was like, they don't hate us. But, like, the way they remember it is really.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. I think it's one of the unspoken truths of being a parent that it really is true. Like, no matter what you do, someone is gonna say, well, what about this?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Actually, you see it in social media, too, right?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, the goalpost moving. Like, somebody says, like, this is bad, and then the person just, instead of addressing that, just moves the goalpost and says, well, what about this?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, and I don't think the kids are doing that on purpose that way, but maybe it's just a human reaction to things.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know what I'm saying? I agree. Yeah. It's very interesting. Okay, so you're gonna break free of this, but we have to figure out how to do that for you. Yeah. So what's taking up all your time that we could help to minimize? I mean, I. If I was you, I'd ship the kid off to school. I think that would definitely free up some of your time. I'd be like, why don't you go learn about Thanksgiving somewhere else?

[B]

Oh my gosh. I mean, my husband would agree with you there. Yeah, I don't know. I don't think that's a. I don't think that's something I'm willing to give up yet. I think I'm willing to give up more of the other stuff first. But I don't really know. I think genuinely I just spend so much time pouring myself into type one that it's like I let everything else fall to the wayside. Like even just like dumb stuff around the house, like, oh, I leave the dishes sitting in the sink for too long. Or like, because I can't fathom doing the dishes when I'm just so exhausted from analyzing all of this data all day.

[A]

What would happen if you didn't do it, though? Like, is this the anxiety? Like, are you doing stuff you don't really know? Have you ever heard me say that worry is a waste of imagination?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Okay. Do you think that's happening a little bit?

[B]

Yeah, I think so.

[A]

All right. Do you need to be medicated?

[B]

I hope not.

[A]

Have you tried weed? Like, is there.

[B]

I mean, I mean, maybe, but.

[A]

I mean, maybe. Okay, so you've tried weed. Does that help?

[B]

Not.

[A]

It doesn't help, no. All right, so nothing can get through your. Your superhero outfit of anxiety and worry?

[B]

I guess not, no. It's pretty invincible.

[A]

Maybe you need more kids.

[B]

I. I fear that that is not the answer.

[A]

Is this impacting your personal life with the boy?

[B]

I think it has. I think it has, yeah.

[A]

You think he feels alone and ignored?

[B]

Yeah, to some degree.

[A]

Is he?

[B]

I mean, maybe more so than he.

[A]

Should be, but you don't care. Cuz the other thing is. And care is not the right word, but it is. At the same time, you don't care because the other thing seems more dire.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What if I told you the other thing will become dire eventually?

[B]

I mean, I tell you that you're completely right.

[A]

No, I know it's obvious, but like, I'm just saying, like, you're. You're too smart not to know this, but I'm trying to, like, figure out, like, what. Here, here's an example. My wife. I Hope she's listening. Hi, sweetheart. Has long Covid. She can see it coming on when she gets like a flare up. But instead of slowing down and stopping for a day or two, she ramps herself up, acting as if she's going to drive through it unscathed, which instead turns into her two weeks later being so exhausted that she has to take off two days from work and sleep for 48 hours.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I say to her, what if the next time you feel it coming, you just scale back then so that it never really gets up to full speed? And you never get to the point where you actually have to stop if you've made a new problem? And then she stares through me as if I'm a idiot. And then I think the staring means. Yeah, yeah, Scott, that's making sense. But I don't know how to do that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Are you Catholic?

[B]

No.

[A]

Really?

[B]

No.

[A]

None of this makes any sense. Chanel, why are you so nervous? Wait, is there other anxiety in your family besides your mom? Like, family line?

[B]

I don't think so.

[A]

No.

[B]

No.

[A]

Anybody got Crohn's?

[B]

My mother in law.

[A]

Ah. People pooping a lot after food. How's Thanksgiving? Is it just a line of the bathroom afterwards?

[B]

No, it's not.

[A]

Not that bad. Okay. Any mental illness? Any depression in the family?

[B]

My dad had depression.

[A]

Ah. Your mom's anxious, your dad's depressed, and you're worried all the time. Mm. You worry about stuff that's ridiculous to worry about.

[B]

Sometimes, yeah. And then I catch myself. The stuff that's like, completely ridiculous. It's easier to like, you know what I mean? Rein it back in. But the day to day stuff is a lot harder to kind of like, push past.

[A]

So you can't write off the kid thing because the kid. Because you used some pretty harsh language earlier about, like, I'm keeping him alive. Yeah, you kind. I know you are, but it also you run afoul of the. You ever see somebody online, and by the way, if one of you saw that you did this. I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about the other one, so don't get mad at me. Okay, but you ever see somebody who, like a cookie, saved my kid's life today? Like, the real, like, dramatic, like. You ever seen that?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Maybe don't lean that hard into the drama. You know what I mean? Like, so I get the point you're trying to make, but. Yeah. So is that happening? Are you leaning into the drama when it's about him?

[B]

I try not to. I think some Days, it's harder to kind of, like, detach from the drama. Especially, like, after, like, a super rough, like, blood sugar day where you're kind of just like, mentally drained from having to, like, give it attention 247 instead of being able to kind of detach. But, yeah, I mean, I try really hard not to lean into the drama. I try to keep the aspect of, like, you know, type one doesn't change his childhood that much. And I'm trying to keep everything as normal as possible, but, you know, it's hard to keep that mindset.

[A]

24, what's the thing you're really worried about? Like, what's your biggest worry for him?

[B]

I think my biggest worry is any. And neglect is a harsh term, but, like, any neglect that I would put on him while he's young and not the one in charge of his diabetes management, like, if it caused him future complications, like, I wouldn't be able to forgive myself for that.

[A]

Oh, okay. You're worried he's gonna have a. A medical condition in the future or an outcome in the future that you're going to then look at and think, oh, that was my job. I should have stopped that from happening.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, that's not going to happen.

[B]

Yeah, I know. Realistically.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, if he has something like that, it's going to be after he's an adult making his own decisions.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Do you want me to make sense to you?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. So you're thoughtful. You understand this, you're paying attention to it, you're putting in good effort. So while you're in control of his diabetes, everything should be fine.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Right. The only thing that you can't really help is what he does after he's off and away from you.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The way he separates from you as an adult one day is going to have a lot to do with the relationship that you have now with him moving forward.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So if you're overbearing and. Or like, you know, at some point he's going to just think you're being ridiculous. Right. Like, even if you're doing something that's perfectly reasonable all the time, Arn's like, ugh, I don't know what you think you're doing. And I'm like, oh, okay. So you're going to get to that at some point. Right?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

If you have a bad relationship because of how you're over focusing on the diabetes, that probably leads him more towards not taking care of himself than anything else.

[B]

Agreed. Yeah.

[A]

So it's really all about, oh, you really know all this already? You didn't go to therapy? You just figured this out?

[B]

No, I'm in therapy.

[A]

Oh. Oh, okay. Therapist explained it to you? Oh, is that what happened? A therapist explained this to you?

[B]

Kind of, yeah. I think, I think a decent amount was self realization, but the therapy definitely helped.

[A]

What's the co pay on the therapist?

[B]

Oh, God, I don't even know. We just got new insurance, so I gotta figure all that out.

[A]

It could be more than 40, you're saying?

[B]

Oh, 100%.

[A]

I'm not even pretend asking for enough.

[B]

You're not charging enough.

[A]

You know, I had a meeting the other day with one of the advertisers and I thought the same thing. I was like, I don't think I'm charging enough money.

[B]

I'm undervaluing myself.

[A]

I sat there and I thought, I think I'm getting screwed. And not like Brenda did in Squishy Pushy. So there's. There's a little highlight for you. Don't forget Brenda 71. Go listen to that episode right now. Now I, you know, I should do more shout outs for other episodes within episodes.

[B]

You definitely should.

[A]

I need to start doing AD for myself. Okay, so you know all this, you're trying to get it stopped now. Step away from all this. Stop being yourself for a second. Be me. What should you be doing? Like, what puts an end to this? Because, listen, I've had a ton of conversations with a lot of ladies who have made babies. This mother guilt thing, this mom's guilt thing, this is ridiculous, okay? Like, it's horrible. I don't know. I mean, obviously it's been keeping people alive for generations. It's probably pretty, you know, pretty valuable. But that's back when nature didn't expect you to live past 30.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What is it that you can do to make a good relationship with this little boy and your daughter and your husband in a way that everybody's gonna be happy when he's 18 and goes off and marries some girl? I mean, you know, or hopefully, you know, does whatever he's gonna do. What's gonna make him head off into his adult life and not struggle with this thing? That's diabetes. And why do you think it's for you to do? Why don't you see it as a bigger, like, steering of the Titanic and less about, like, I think you should be looking at this more macro. You got to stop putting it on yourself and start thinking bigger picture, I think. But what would do that for you? Today's episode is brought to you by Omnipod did you know that the majority of Omnipod 5 users pay less than $30 per month at the pharmacy? That's less than $1 a day for tube free automated insulin delivery. And a third of Omnipod 5 users pay $0 per month. You heard that right. Zero. That's less than your daily coffee. For all of the benefits of tubeless, waterproof automated insulin delivery, my daughter has been wearing an Omnipod every day since she was 4 years old and she's about to be 21. My family relies on Omnipod and I think you'll love it. And you can try it for free right now by requesting your free starter kit today at my link omnipod.com Juicebox Omnipod has been an advertiser for a decade, but even if they weren't, I would tell you proudly my daughter wears an Omnipod omnipod.com Juicebox terms and conditions apply. Eligibility may vary. Why don't you get yourself that free starter kit? Full terms and conditions can be found@ omnipod.com juicebox you can manage diabetes confidently with the Powerfully Simple Dexcom G7 dexcom.com Juicebox the Dexcom G7 is the CGM that my daughter is wearing. The G7 is a simple CGM system that delivers real time glucose numbers to your smartphone or smartwatch. The G7 is made for all types of diabetes, type 1 and type 2, but also people experiencing gestational diabetes. The Dexcom G7 can help you spend more time in range, which is proven to lower a 1C. The more time you spend in range, the better and healthier you feel. And with the Dexcom Clarity app, you can track your glucose trends and the app will also provide you with a projected A1C in as little as two weeks. If you're looking for clarity around your diabetes, you're Looking for Dexcom Dexcom.com Juicebox when you use my link, you're supporting the podcast Dexcom.com Juicebox Head over there now.

[B]

Yeah, I agree. I think honestly, as dumb as it sounds, seeing him have a better relationship with his diabetes than I do, because if he looked at diabetes the way I do, that would break my heart. And it's hypocritical because I'm the one modeling how to act towards diabetes management right now and I don't want him to constantly be stressed out about his numbers. I want him to know how to manage himself. You know what I mean? In a good way. But I don't want him to live day to day thinking that he's only here to be a pancreas.

[A]

What should I say to you? Because I could say the thing that your husband won't say. You want me to do that?

[B]

I mean, sure, go for it.

[A]

You got to calm the fuck down.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Oh, he has said that.

[A]

Oh, he said it. Well, he's dead.

[B]

He said that.

[A]

Let me tell you something.

[B]

I don't receive it well.

[A]

Well, no, of course not. What a major mistake. Listen, if you're listening, man, you can't say that. That's ridiculous.

[B]

I know.

[A]

You got to get someone else to say it. Here's a. Here's a good trick. Get her crazy friend to say it, because when she realizes the crazy friend thinks she needs to calm down, she'll be like, oh, God, if Pat thinks that I'm crazy, what the hell's happening? I'm partially joking, but I'm partially not. Yeah, I know. It's very much easier said than done. Yeah, you've said all the right stuff. You're modeling the wrong thing to him. He's going to pick it up. That's what he's going to think his diabetes is. It's going to seem like a thing that's always trying to kill him that he should be scared of. You don't want him to feel like that at all. Right. So what do they tell you in aa?

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

You don't know anybody in aa?

[B]

No.

[A]

I think you're supposed to fake it till you make it. Ah.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah. Pretend that you're calm. Okay. Yeah. And then he'll be calm. And then hopefully you'll actually be calm, because the goal here is that you'll see that he's not going to die, that nothing terrible is happening, and you'll chill the fuck out.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Perfect world. I agree.

[A]

You promised you were gonna curse a lot in this episode, and you've not cursed, I don't think. One time.

[B]

I don't know if that's a good thing or not.

[A]

I'm worried that you're not comfortable.

[B]

I feel like I am. I feel like I am to some degree. But also, I've definitely saved your editor some work, so.

[A]

Yeah, it's all right. He's got. Listen, he's just riding his bike and editing this podcast. He really doesn't have a lot to do. He's got the greatest life. Rob's laughing at me. He's like, I don't have a great life. He does. He gets up in the Morning. Sometimes takes a laptop, bikes off somewhere and edits the podcast. Like in a cafe.

[B]

Okay. Yeah, that sounds sweet.

[A]

It does, doesn't it?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Freaking hippie Rob. He's probably camping right now somewhere, working. He's got a good life. I don't know if he knows it or not, but from my perspective, I was like, this guy's doing it.

[B]

Yeah. The grass is always greener, right?

[A]

Well, I don't know. I don't see the grass. I'm stuck in this room. The grass. I had to bring a chameleon in here to see something move and be alive and be green. Oh, my God, he's still motoring around. What's up, buddy? You're having a big day today, huh? He ate a giant roach today and two huge silkworms. He seems so happy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Okay, so I don't know what to say to you because you already know all the things I was going to say. You believe them for the right reasons. You're on the path, but at the same time, and I don't want to be a bummer, I have no confidence you're going to do any of these things.

[B]

Oh, I don't blame you, because I don't have the confidence either.

[A]

I feel like I could easily interview five years from now, and you'd be like, oh, I'm making that kid crazy. Scott, you should say for all the ladies that are listening, and, I mean, I could say men, too, if that would make you all feel better. But for all the. All the moms that are listening right now and are like, I'm doing this, too. I wish there was an answer. I don't think there is. I don't think you need to be medicated. You don't seem unstable to me at all.

[B]

Thanks.

[A]

Yeah, you're welcome. You're not depressed. You have anxious thoughts, but I don't think you're anxiety ridden. You know, you're not worrying about things that aren't real. The things you're concerned about are actually real. Yeah, it seems like you're just putting too much weight into them. Now, in fairness, if I go back to three years into Arden's diagnosis, I'm out of my goddamn mind. And you seem much more reasonable than I did three years into it. Seriously, you're doing way better than I was doing.

[B]

Yeah?

[A]

Yeah. So my thought is it's probably gonna be fine. You're gonna mess that kid up a little bit, but I think you're gonna figure it out before it goes over the edge.

[B]

Hopefully that's the goal.

[A]

Yeah, no, it seems good. I think you're onto something here.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Don't overthink the overthinking.

[B]

Yeah, I think one overthinking is enough. I don't need to, you know, multiply it by.

[A]

Yeah, because right now you're. No kidding. You're overthinking the diabetes, and then you're realizing you're doing it and then trying to apply changes to it, and now we're sitting here worrying about the worrying. You see what I'm saying?

[B]

It's always something.

[A]

It's your whole generation. You guys gotta seriously, you guys are a mess. Like, just chill out. It's all gonna be okay.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. You're not in charge of anything. No, it doesn't matter. You can't. You can't really change the world. You're. You're upset about politics. Doesn't matter. You're upset about this, doesn't matter. You want your husband to be different. Doesn't matter. That's how boys are. He wants you to stop worrying. Doesn't matter. That's how girls are. Your kid's got a real issue. It's worth worrying about. It's just not worth ruining your life over. Like, so. Yeah, my thought here would be stay rested. I know it sounds crazy, but make sure you're getting your sleep, because once the sleep starts slipping away, then all these thoughts could pile up on you real quickly. Right. So keep sleeping. Let the boy keep helping you. Right?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Be a little nicer to him. Okay. You know what I'm saying? It's not like an alarm shouldn't go off once a month. And you go, okay, you've got 10 minutes. Like, that's not a really good way to do it. I'll talk to you now. And he's like, I thought we'd have sex. You go, listen, you can talk or have sex, but one way that you got 10 minutes and I'm out of here. You can't be like that. Right?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And you just, like, you know, have experiences, realize that you know what's going to happen and there's not a reason to worry about every little thing because you. You this a lot better than you think you do.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's all.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's good self talk.

[B]

Yeah, I think it is.

[A]

This is one of these episodes that Erica will listen to and later send me a text and go, you were so good with that girl. And I'll say, thank you.

[B]

I'll give. I'll give him a gold star.

[A]

Oh, thank you no co pay. I gotcha.

[B]

No, I mean, I don't know. I'm thinking on that one.

[A]

What are people paying for their therapy?

[B]

I don't know. I think it's. I mean, I don't know. Insurance is ridiculous, but I know it is.

[A]

Do you have, like. Is it military insurance? Is he still in, by the way, or is he out?

[B]

No, he's not. He did. He did five years and then he got out.

[A]

What's he doing now?

[B]

He works for IBM.

[A]

I was going to say, what kind of good job did he get that you're sitting at home, not sitting at home. You understand? I mean, you don't have to.

[B]

I know what you're saying. No, I'm sitting at home.

[A]

It's not like. It's like, 75, and I'm like, why your ass is spreading and that boy's out there working? Like, I wasn't talking about that. Like, I just meant, like. I mean, you don't have to make an income is what I'm saying.

[B]

No, No, I don't.

[A]

Okay. And North Carolina. A little cheaper to live, right?

[B]

A little bit, yeah.

[A]

Not much because we keep coming down there and ruining it.

[B]

I mean, I was one of the ones that came down here and ruined it, so I can't.

[A]

When I said we, I meant me and you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't mean me and the people I'm living around. Although my neighbor just left for North Carolina.

[B]

Ah, okay.

[A]

Actually, they're good people, too.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

They're moving there because their daughter's playing softball in college, and they literally sold their house, changed jobs, and went there just so they could catch some of her softball games.

[B]

That's so awesome.

[A]

Yeah. Anyway, for the rest of you, that's what good parenting looks like. People are just like, my dad was doing heroin and I'm lucky to be here. Okay. And so. And I get it. We don't all get the same. The same good role as others. Although I do think it's overly simple, like what causes. And I guess I'd like you to think about that. Really? Like, when I asked you why are you, like, a solid person? You named very basic things about your parents.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Right. That should tell you that those are really the only things your kids need from you. Really? Yeah. Yeah. The rest of this is sort of bull.

[B]

Yeah, I agree.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, has your kid come close to having a seizure? No, mine had one by the time they were three.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah. Arden had one. She was, like, six months after she was diagnosed.

[B]

That's Wild. Yeah, we've been, we've been very fortunate he hasn't gone back into dka. I mean, he wasn't in DKA at diagnosis and he's never gone into DKA in the three and a half years that we'.

[A]

And no, you caught it quickly, by the way.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

In the story, it got lost a little bit. Cause I was, I'm a little all over the place today. But that's between us. But I mean, but like you, you, you picked that up pretty quickly. You, you got him in the hospital on time, it sounds like. Early even. I mean.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You're going to use that same brain to watch him as he's moving forward. And the only real damage you can do to him is what? Come on. It's right there.

[B]

Just saying it's right there. It's right there. I mean, I guess give him negative associations with Type one.

[A]

Yeah. You don't want to be one of those people that when people talk about their mom later, they go, you, you know my mom, she's, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know people, right? Yeah. Hey, my mom, my mom. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You just don't want them to say that. You just want to say, oh, my mom's cool. Yeah, yeah. To be cool, be a little Fonzie.

[B]

I need to.

[A]

Do you even know what that means?

[B]

I feel like I've heard that saying before.

[A]

Oh, my God. You don't know what that means?

[B]

No.

[A]

Oh, hell, I'm going to be dead soon. Okay? Jeez. Fonzie was a character on a television show called Happy Days, okay? And he was a very cool person. And back then, there was nothing better than being cool. In the 50s when this show was being portrayed and he was almost magical. Fonzie could strike a jukebox and it would just start playing the song he wanted just by tapping it with his fist.

[B]

Okay?

[A]

He was like a magician in the 50s with a leather jacket, riding a motorcycle.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah. Had a real kind of tough guy vibe. Ironically played by a very mild mannered Jewish man named Henry Winkler.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Who is a lovely man if you go find him somewhere where he's still an older man talking right now. Just lovely. It's not the point. The point is that it was like, be cool like Fonzie.

[B]

Okay?

[A]

So we're all gonna be little Fonzies now. That's a lot. Hold on, you're not done yet with the rest of it?

[B]

I'm not done yet. I'm still listening.

[A]

Be little Fonzies. Is a line from Pulp Fiction. I'm going to guess another movie you haven't seen.

[B]

Yeah. No.

[A]

Oh, my God, you people. Okay, so there's, like, this moment where everybody's pointing guns at each other, and I think Sam Jackson, was it. Sam Jackson says little Fonzies. Yeah, he's like. He's like, be cool. Be cool. We're all Fonzie. All Little Fonzies. Or something like that. Anyway, that's written by Quentin Tarantino.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

You've seen any of his movies?

[B]

No.

[A]

What have you been doing?

[B]

Diabetes.

[A]

Why don't you go watch a fun. Why don't you go watch a. Well, what's your favorite movie? Let's pivot for a second. Janelle, what's your favorite film? You're gonna say 13 going on 30 or something like that? I'm gonna kill myself also. I don't think we're allowed to say that.

[B]

Even lamer. And say that. I'm a Disney adult.

[A]

Oh, my God. Janelle, stop it. And the rest of you, stop it, too. I mean, listen, did I tell somebody the other day what a good movie the Incredibles is? I did. You know, actually, it was Rob. I was. It made me. I don't know. Rob and I were talking about something. Rob and I text a lot, apparently. And I was. I was talking about that scene where Frozone is looking for a super suit.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. And he's like. He's like, woman, where is my super suit? That whole thing. I love that. That's a great scene. And then I said, the Incredibles is probably the best Fantastic Four movie we're ever going to get. Right. And now you're here telling me you have not seen Pulp Fiction. No. Have you even heard of it?

[B]

Yeah, I've heard of it.

[A]

And what stops you from watching it?

[B]

I don't know. I guess I've never been, like, a huge movie person in general, so maybe.

[A]

That'S why that's fine. Do you prefer television? Have you seen New Girl?

[B]

Yes, I've seen some episodes of New Girl.

[A]

Some episodes. How do you start watching New Girl and not watch them all? Are you busy with the diabetes?

[B]

I think I tried it a while ago, and I just couldn't get into it.

[A]

Oh, my God. What is happening to everybody?

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

The sarcasm is so tight. New Girl. It's awesome. All right. And it's a. Okay. It's not the point. I need you to. I need you to relax. What are we gonna do? One thing. This Weekend that gets you away from diabetes. Take that kid. No offense. Paxton. Take that kid. You name him after Bill Paxton. No way. You don't even know who the hell Bill Paxton is. Never mind.

[B]

No.

[A]

All right. Take that kid and to your mom's and go over there and say to her, this. There's a following. Go. Mom, listen, I love you, but I am noticing. I am really uptight. And God bless you, you are, too. But it's too late for you now, and it's not too late for me. So I'm gonna. I wanna. I'm gonna give these kids to you. I need you to keep them alive, and I don't want to hear from you for the next three hours, okay? Like. Like, don't kill this kid. I don't wanna think he's gonna die. Even the little one, what's her name over there with the red hair? If she falls off of something and nothing's broken, I don't wanna hear about it. Okay? Three hours. My husband and I, we're gonna go to a movie, we're gonna have lunch, and we're gonna make sex. And then we'll be back and get these kids, okay? Also, if I was you, I'd sex before the lunch, but that's just how I think about it. But it's up to you how you handle Janelle.

[B]

Personal preference?

[A]

I don't like you on a full belly. You know what I mean? Me or him? Like, nothing worse than somebody's, like, well, let me go to the bathroom first. But now it's over. You know what I mean?

[B]

Like, we're done now.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, now. That part's not happening anymore. So, like, I say, what do we do? We go sex. A movie. That's nice. You kind of lean on each other in the film. Then you go to have some lunch, and then you go get the kid. Yeah, yeah. And then. And then when you get back there, normally, you go, what happened? Tell me everything. You don't even ask. You go, hey, we're here for the kids. And you just take them and you leave, all right? It's a good practice run. And you'll have all that serotonin and whatever that happens to you from the intercourse, you know what I mean? Like, say, it's good for you. You'll be chilled out a little bit. He's going to be happy as a clam. I mean, you. He won't argue for a week about anything. You know what I mean? You could be like, we're buying a new sofa and painting the room. He'd be like, right on, let's do it. So you got him nice and calm. You forget about the kids for a couple of hours. You let your mom in on it so that she knows you need a little separation from this right now. Like, don't be. I'll be texting me. Ask me anything. You're a nurse. If you can't keep this kid alive. Says a lot about you. Put it on her. You know what I mean?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then that's it. And you come. Can you do that? Yeah. All right. Hey, if your husband gets laid out of this, I expect a thank you note. Oh, my gosh, you too, by the way. Both of you write a note. And I want them separately. I don't want them together.

[B]

Okay, sounds like a plan.

[A]

Yeah, I want separate thank you notes. All right, what else? Oh, my God, I'm out of my mind today. It's a Friday. We shouldn't have done this on a Friday.

[B]

Poor planning.

[A]

Oh, my God, I'm really good. These are my best podcasts. Do you think I'm the only one that thinks that, or do you think other people are listening, enjoying it?

[B]

I think everyone hopes that you record more on Fridays.

[A]

Yeah, I hope so, because as I get done, I like, I'll get done here and I'll think, am I the only one that enjoyed that or is.

[B]

No. I'm having a blast.

[A]

Oh, good. Then I try to decide if I care.

[B]

The answer is probably no.

[A]

I'm in a really unique position where enough people listen that, like, I really could just do it for me at this point and it wouldn't really matter. I could kind of, like, handle it that way, but I'm trying to give you guys what you want to. Also. I think we've mixed in a lot of good advice in this conversation. Yeah. Yeah. I've said some questionable things here and there, but I don't think anything cancelable. So, like, you know, I mean, I.

[B]

Think this episode is definitely cleaner than Squishy Pushy.

[A]

Oh, wait, you guys hear that one? Yeah, this one's way cleaner than that. And Brenda cursed a lot. She's a lot. She said some things I never thought I'd hear a 71 year old lady say, but then there it was. So, anyway, check it off your list. Now, let me just tell you what I'm expecting is that Brenda is also going to see a movie and get laid this weekend too, is what I'm getting at. So she's. She's awesome. Oh, you were good.

[B]

Those are The. Those are, like, the best episodes.

[A]

I hope so. I really do. I always think, too, about, like, people who just like, I just did a speaking gig. Like, so I imagine all the people who are like, oh, he talked about pre bolusing and blah, blah, blah, and then they're going to turn on an episode and I'm going to be saying to you, I'm like, go to a movie and get laid. They're going to be like, this.

[B]

This podcast is about only type one stuff, right? All that fun stuff.

[A]

Your kid has type 1 diabetes. I didn't break the rules, don't worry. Somebody asked me the other day, what's your podcast about? I'm like, oh, it's just a podcast.

[B]

It's just a podcast.

[A]

And they're like. They're like, about type one. I'm like, well, I mean, I talk to people of diabetes.

[B]

Yeah, there's some connection.

[A]

I mean, loose. But again, I. And I told them, I followed up and I was like, if I said, you make a podcast, it's just about diabetes and what you're making is a podcast that no one's going to listen to. So, yeah, just. It's not. Don't get me wrong. I'm sure you get a couple downloads, but you're not going to. Yeah, I could be celebrating 20 million like I'm going to be next month.

[B]

Congrats.

[A]

I'm just celebrating here on my own right now. You have any idea how few podcasts get 20 million total downloads?

[B]

I don't, but it ain't a lot. I will take your word for it.

[A]

It ain't a lot. I'm sitting at the very tip of a mountain. The only people above me are very famous people. And anybody who's ever been on the Joe Rogan podcast.

[B]

Hey, there you go. I'd say that's something to be proud of.

[A]

I'm pretty proud of it to be perfect. Okay. Do you have any questions for me? Anything at all that you want to talk about?

[B]

I don't think so.

[A]

We did it.

[B]

I think. I think we. I think we did a little. A good little therapy session.

[A]

I do, too. This is why I'm way better than your therapist. It's okay if you.

[B]

I mean, yeah, hopefully she doesn't listen to this and feel inadequate. Yeah.

[A]

But she's probably got rules she's following.

[B]

I would say.

[A]

Yeah, she's probably burdened by things like, you know, her education and knowing what she's talking about. I have no such burdens, Janelle. I have no such burdens.

[B]

No.

[A]

No.

[B]

Such burdens.

[A]

Yeah, I'm just over here saying what I think makes sense.

[B]

Hey, whatever.

[A]

Yeah, also, your husband. What's his name?

[B]

Tyler.

[A]

Tyler, I'm gonna speak directly to you right now. You can't tell your wife to calm down. I mean, I know we. We act like it's. It's all, like, equal and everything, and, like, you know, it's not exactly equal. There's, like, a handful of things you can't say to your wife. Like, here's another one. Like, it's not that bad. You don't say that during their period. You don't go, but it's not really that bad, is it? You know, you don't say stuff like that. You knew not to say the thing about the period. How did you not know to not say the thing about the. Calm down.

[B]

It just makes it worse.

[A]

Oh, my God. Are you kidding? Only a thing you say if you want to make a fight, not if you want to stop a fight.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

Yeah. You should just calm down. I could see it. My wife's eyes. If she had a gun, she'd murder me. Okay? Now, I'm a glutton for punishment. So every once in a while, I'll throw it in there, but not like, you can't. And she does it to me, too. I see her picking at me. You do that to him every once in a while?

[B]

Every once in a while, yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Just to get him going. For reasons you can't even put into words. Right.

[B]

Yeah. You just got to push the buttons.

[A]

You're just like, oh, let's see what happens if I do this. Yeah. Oh, my God. I like. Like how you said you're never having any more kids. I think you're gonna have more kids.

[B]

So I hope not.

[A]

I think. May I tell you what I think's gonna happen?

[B]

Go for it.

[A]

You're gonna chill out. In the next year and a half or so, you're on a pathway. You're doing well. You're gonna realize the impact it's gonna have on your family. I think you're smart enough and thoughtful enough to put an end to it. Right? So you're gonna. You're gonna tamp it back a little bit, and then everything's gonna seem lighter, and then that voice in your head is gonna go, maybe we should have one more baby. And then you're not going to gain your wits about you in time. And then you're going to be pregnant.

[B]

It'll be too late, and then you'll.

[A]

Spend the rest of your life going, what did I do here?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then you know who you're going to blame? Tyler. Tyler. You're going to say, you should have spoken up, Tyler, you knew I didn't want to have more kids. And yet when I came to you in a moment of weakness and you made me pregnant again, you shouldn't have done that. And then Tyler's going to say, I thought I wasn't supposed to argue with you. And then you're going to say, well, not in those situations. And then Tyler's going to go run his head into a wall and you're going to SM and live the rest of your life. Oh, my God.

[B]

It's a. It's a lose, lose.

[A]

Right. Well, that is what being a heterosexual male is. Yes.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, the only people that have it worse are lesbians.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

I don't know what they're doing. They're out of their minds. I mean, can you imagine?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like two people in the same situation telling each other to calm down at different parts.

[B]

I. I don't know how that would work.

[A]

Oh, no. I mean, obviously, it's got to be incredibly difficult. Yeah. And by the way, this is gonna be one of these things where I sound older, Like a thing that older people say and everything. And if you're thinking that right now, just try to stay alive 20 more years and then come back and check on them.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

By the way, nothing wrong with how anybody works or, you know, like, you know, I'm okay with how boys are, how girls are, how everybody is. It's just a thing that I think you honestly need to understand while you're navigating your life. I'm not overly generalizing and saying, you know, how this person is or, you know, how this person can act. It's just there are people, they have reactions to things. I don't know anything special about you, Janelle. Like, I've just talked to 1500 people.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. We have a lot in common. And a lot of it is stuff that we like to pretend we're in control of, but really is more chemical or emotional than you want to think it is. And silly to sit here and say that you're going to stop it or that you're going to therapy your way out of it or whatever. It really is going to turn into a situation where, like, you're going to have an amount of experience, it's going to tell you how you want to be, and with some luck and a lot of effort, you'll do it. And some people do and some people don't. I think it's got a lot to do with how much it means to you to get it done and how much time and effort you're willing to put into it to create a life for yourself that mimics the one you imagine.

[B]

Yeah, agreed.

[A]

That's it. That's all. And the rest of it's just silliness so that you'll listen. Yeah, because I gotta sell these ads.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, Jesus, it's something. You have no idea what it's like. You all out there with, like, your regular jobs, you think they're hard? Just try making a podcast. It ain't easy.

[B]

Oh, my gosh. I can only imagine.

[A]

No. Do you know, it sucks parts of it. This part. This part's fun. Like, the rest of it is not as much fun.

[B]

This is the easy part.

[A]

This is the entire easy part. It really is. It's not like pipe fitting or anything like that, but it's. I mean, it's not like making sure the email works for the military. That sounds hard, you guys. Does he keep up with the certification? Does he shoot?

[B]

No, not like normally.

[A]

Didn't even care, huh?

[B]

Not regularly.

[A]

So you're not like an average military, young, military family, really?

[B]

I think it's more just the fact that he's putting his extra time elsewhere right now. He's trying to finish up. He's in the last semester for his bachelor's degree, so he's trying to knock that out.

[A]

Good for him. That's awesome. Oh, so he went in before? Oh, yeah. He went in without college, and now he came out and he's getting his degree. He's working and getting a degree?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Wait a minute. He's working and getting a degree, and he's got a kid with type one, and he's got a wife who's freaking herself out about the type one?

[B]

Yeah. And we both coach soccer on top of that.

[A]

You both coach soccer, and I still had to tell you to have sex this weekend. What the hell's wrong with you? Janelle, let's get to it. Okay. My God. I went over this in a recent episode. I can't do it again. But your whole generation. You're not having sex enough. I don't know what you're doing. I know you got the phone. It's awesome and everything, but, like, you gotta stop putting the blocks in order or whatever it is you're doing on your phone. And, like, you know what I mean?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's like the best free thing in the world that. I mean, it's a toss up, really. Pizza and sex both awesome.

[B]

I mean, yeah, Yeah.

[A]

I mean, not that you now. Not since you moved from New York. Hey, tell people how much better the pizza was at home.

[B]

Oh, it's so much better.

[A]

They don't think. They don't believe me when I say it. No.

[B]

North Carolina pizza. Is it?

[A]

Yeah. Most of you are eating the worst pizza in the world. You don't even realize it.

[B]

You don't even realize it.

[A]

You have no idea. I actually. Just saying it out loud. I'm gonna go get myself a pizza right now. I am. I'm gonna go to one of the best rated pizza places in New Jersey and get a pie.

[B]

Ah, that sounds so good.

[A]

You've all seen that. Remember that barstool guy who seemed fun and then turned into a lunatic? You've all seen him stand outside of a pizza place that is like five seconds from my house enjoying a slice of pizza.

[B]

Oh, my gosh.

[A]

And I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go there right now, and.

[B]

I'm gonna go there.

[A]

All right, Jenna, hold on a second. You were awesome, by the way. Thanks. Please listen to only, like, 12% of what I said. Why are you so nice? I don't know. You are, though. You know it, right?

[B]

I don't think I do. I think, honestly, most of the time, I think I'm just like, a cranky.

[A]

You think you're a cranky?

[B]

Sometimes, yeah.

[A]

Has this not been reminiscent of who you are today?

[B]

I think more so, like, this is who I am when I'm not necessarily worried about the other stuff.

[A]

Oh, like a. Like a Dr. Jekyll, Mr. Hyde sort of situation?

[B]

Maybe. Yeah. Maybe I have a. Maybe I have a personality disorder. Maybe we missed that diagnosis.

[A]

I just sniffed that out in the first 25 minutes. I'm Fin. Fine. You're. That doesn't exist. Do you think people now are listening are, like, do you think he thought I had a personality disorder when he was recording with me? Didn't mention it because, like, I mean, would I mention it if I thought you had one? Probably not.

[B]

This journal of all of his podcast guests and what mental illness he suspects they have.

[A]

Meanwhile, I. You should see the list of mental illnesses I suspect I might have.

[B]

Which list is longer?

[A]

Well, I don't want to say it's embarrassing, but. No, but you. Wait. So this is who you want to be?

[B]

Yeah, I would say so.

[A]

Okay, so then tell me how to be that person. Like, what are you doing right now? That you don't do in your regular life? Because I'm just me. Like, I don't have, like, another gear.

[B]

Yeah, I don't know. I think I'm just sitting here not worried about Paxton's blood sugars right now, and it's mostly as simple as that.

[A]

And is he alive?

[B]

Yeah, he's alive.

[A]

Is he under your charge right now?

[B]

Kind of. I told my husband that I was obviously tied up, and so I told him, you're in charge of whatever happens and don't bother me.

[A]

And now you're okay.

[B]

I'm okay.

[A]

Well, then just keep doing that.

[B]

Yeah, I know, but like you said, it's easier said than done.

[A]

You know, I gotta tell you again, you gotta calm the down. Like. Like, I mean, if this is who you could be, you're awesome.

[B]

Thanks.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, I'm twice your age, so it feels weird, but, like, I don't know what you look like. I don't know anything. I would easily. If I was your age, I'd be like, and you, of course this Tyler guy didn't scoop you up. I'd be like, hey, we should go out to dinner and get to know each other. Like, you have a really good vibe about you.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

Yeah, no, you're welcome. But you're telling me that if I met you in any other situation, I would run for the hills, is that right?

[B]

Possibly, yeah. If you caught me at a bad moment, 100%. Uh oh, like, actually disengage. We're gonna go the other way.

[A]

That lady's running a key down the side of my car in the parking lot. Why? I don't know. I think I park crooked. She seemed very upset.

[B]

Your tire was touching the line.

[A]

All right, listen, Janelle, for you and everybody else listening who wish they could be this version of themselves, I wish you all a ton of luck. I can only tell you that I am, generally speaking, this level of this all the time. And I am as nervous and worried as the rest of you about everything else. I don't know why that is, and I genuinely feel bad about it. I. Whenever I talk to somebody who's anxious, and I wouldn't put you in the level of anxiety ridden, but whenever I talk to somebody who's struggling with that, it pulls at my heartstrings more than anything else because I wish you could feel what it feels like not to have that hanging over your head. I don't think I can properly explain it to you.

[B]

I think it's hard to imagine what it would be like, to not have it hanging over my head.

[A]

It's so freeing not to, like. And that's all I can think when I'm talking to you. Like, if I felt the way you felt, I imagine I'd be having the exact same outcomes that you're having.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. And the weed didn't help. So, I don't know, you want to try mushrooms or something? Like, I'm not an advocate, but, I mean, like, are you? I mean, you know, I don't know.

[B]

I don't know if I'm on board with the mushrooms.

[A]

You know, some military people. I'm assuming you could get a hold of it if you needed to.

[B]

I mean, maybe.

[A]

Is he keep in touch with the guys or no?

[B]

Yes and no. Depends.

[A]

Depends on who they are in this situation. I gotcha. All right. You're very interesting.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

Yes. You can come back again.

[B]

Okay, cool.

[A]

A couple years from now when you figure the whole thing out and you know what? You did, come back and tell everybody.

[B]

All right, cool.

[A]

I will keep the podcast going until then. That's the. That's. That's my burden. My burden is to keep this podcast going. Your burden is to put your into motion and make it work. All right.

[B]

Sounds like a plan.

[A]

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