#1721 Runny Eggs

Summary

Juicebox Podcast: Type 1 Diabetes

Host: Scott Benner
Episode: #1721 "Runny Eggs"
Guests: Stephanie (ER Nurse & mom of three, including Trey) and Trey (13, diagnosed with T1D in 2023)
Date: December 27, 2025

Overview

This episode welcomes Stephanie and her middle child, Trey, for a lively, candid, and often humorous family conversation about the two-year journey of managing Trey's type 1 diabetes. Beyond practical strategies, the interview explores diagnosis, family dynamics, sports, daily management routines, memorable mishaps, and the ongoing learning process. The episode’s tone is warm, honest, and loaded with genuine banter, keeping it both informative and entertaining for listeners.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Introductions and Family Background

(02:54–04:50)

• Stephanie introduces herself as the mother of three: Ellie (eldest), Trey (middle), and Sullivan (“Sully,” named after Sully Erna from Godsmack).
  • "We call him Sully most of the time." – Stephanie [04:06]
• Trey chimes in as a 13-year-old lacrosse goalie, diagnosed with T1D summer 2023.
• Family candidly discusses naming origins, age dynamics, and parental music preferences.

2. Diagnosis Story and Recognition of Symptoms

(04:55–08:53)

• Trey recalls a traumatic but memorable diagnosis: extremely high blood sugar (640), vomiting during a Florida lacrosse tournament, sudden weight loss (~20 lbs in about a week).
  • “I lost like 20 or 30 pounds... in like a week or two.” – Trey [07:15]
  • “That was really what finally caught my attention.” – Stephanie [07:22]
• Stephanie details how typical summer busyness and explanations from coaches (hydration, tiredness from late gaming and practices) masked classic symptoms.
• Key diagnostic clues: sudden thinness, bedwetting, and multiple overnight accidents.

3. The Adjustment Period and Management Learning Curve

(12:33–15:24)

• Stephanie’s medical background (ER nurse) made her aware of possible autoimmune risks (family history of T1D, rheumatoid arthritis, possible thyroid).
• Ongoing sleuthing for additional family autoimmune issues; currently investigating daughter’s (Ellie’s) thyroid due to similar symptoms.

4. School, Social Life, and Self-Management

(15:38–17:27)

• Trey's school experience: alarms going off can be embarrassing during quiet times. He mostly handles diabetes independently, especially for school lunch carbs, sometimes with nurse support for lows during PE.
  • “Sometimes my alarm goes off during school... it's kind of embarrassing.” – Trey [15:51]
• Stephanie is proud of Trey’s independence, only wishing for better pre-bolusing at times.
  • “He is fairly independent... I’m really proud.” – Stephanie [16:47]
• Trey’s understated response to praise: “Yay.” [17:33]

5. Family Humor and The Great Egg Debate

(18:06–21:08)

• Entertaining family banter about Stephanie’s inability to cook eggs “runny” enough for Trey’s taste, despite multiple tutorials and attempts.
  • “He likes his scrambled eggs runny.” – Stephanie [18:27]
  • “Because I don't like them that way, and I don't make them that way.” – Stephanie [18:39]
• Trey and host Scott debate runny vs. overcooked, with poached eggs as a suggested alternative.
• Trey taught himself to make eggs and poach them (sometimes disastrously) via YouTube.

6. ADHD, Focus, and Sibling Dynamics

(20:17–25:16)

• Discussion of focus issues; ADHD in the family. Trey admits, “If I don't like the thing, I can't focus on it.” [20:47]
• Sibling rivalry and close ages fuel noisy household antics, playful shoe-throwing, and lacrosse trash talk.

7. Stephanie’s Career Shift and the Impact of Diabetes

(24:03–26:20)

• Stephanie’s path: from teaching to swim school manager to ER nurse. Originally aspired to be a midwife/doula but pursued ER after Trey's diagnosis to engage with a broader spectrum of patient needs.
  • “It is amazing to watch... renewal and a new opportunity.” – Stephanie, on working as a doula [25:41]
• She’s now on track for nurse practitioner/endocrinology.

8. Sports & Diabetes: Strategy and Resilience

(39:09–40:27)

• Trey outlines how he prepares for lacrosse as a goalie:
  • Targets blood sugar ~130–150 mg/dL pre-game for buffer against lows.
  • Uses Omnipod 5 in activity mode to adjust targets.
  • “If I have insulin on board, it activates when I'm... exercising, it activates quicker and my blood sugar goes down quicker.” – Trey [39:52]
  • Understands the effect of hydration and insulin kinetics.
• Trey credits learning such strategies to this podcast:
  • “You…We started listening... tried out pre-bolusing, and it worked really well. I didn’t go to 250 after food… I stayed at 200 max.” – Trey [32:13]

9. Balancing Independence, Lows, and Team Support

(35:08–37:28)

• Trey has managed severe lows (down to 28), with support from his mom, reflective of ongoing risks and the need for careful self-assessment.
• Multiple types of glucagon (Gvoke, Baqsimi) are kept at home, school, and in his kit for emergencies.
• Stephanie approaches lows with a measured, non-panicked response, drawing on nursing experience.

10. Parental Roles, Division of Labor, and Dad’s Knowledge

(53:44–54:42)

• Trey acknowledges mom as his primary diabetes “expert” due to her nursing background, but wishes his dad had the same confidence for moments when Stephanie's unavailable.
  • “I wish he knew more about it... then my mom wouldn’t have to call him if my blood sugar goes high and I’m handling it.” – Trey [54:42]

11. Offbeat Family Details and Memorable Moments

(21:02–66:56)

• Squeaky interludes include the egg debate, shoe-throwing at siblings, owning backyard chickens (with “better than store” eggs), and dog stories (including a black lab–chihuahua mix with a “scream” louder than a neutron bomb).
• Stephanie’s Thanksgiving planning and turkey logistics provide more lighthearted family texture.
• Near the episode’s end, Trey casually reveals he eats tin foil sometimes—leading to a discussion of pica, possible nutrient deficiencies, ADHD, and family honesty.
  • “I eat tin foil.” – Trey [63:55]
  • “That’s going to stick with me as one of the more out of left field answers somebody’s ever given me…” – Scott [66:50]

12. What Drives Them: Why Do the Podcast?

(30:32–32:13)

• Trey initiated being on the podcast to help other preteens/kids and to talk about athletic management.
  • “I wanted my own episode... I thought it would be fun... talk about dealing day to day with it as a preteen and a kid, and then how he manages athletically.” – Stephanie [30:55]
• Stephanie admits to supervision: “She wouldn’t let me do the podcast alone because I didn’t think she trusted me yet.” – Trey [31:00]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• "When I was diagnosed, my blood sugar was, like, 640." – Trey [04:55]
• "He likes his scrambled eggs runny." – Stephanie [18:27]
• "If I don't like the thing, I can't focus on it." – Trey [20:47]
• "I've been to, like, low 30s... upper 20s. I have, like, the lows... just give me Sunny D. Just juice." – Trey [35:36]
• "It is amazing to watch. It's just every time a baby is born, I cry." – Stephanie (on being a doula) [25:41]
• "My dad has less knowledge about [diabetes]... he refers to her a lot." – Trey [54:03]
• "I eat tin foil." – Trey [63:55]
• “That’s going to stick with me as one of the more out of left field answers somebody’s ever given me...” – Scott [66:50]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Diagnosis, Symptoms, and Family History: [04:55–12:33]
• Discussion of School, Social, and Sports Life: [15:38–40:27]
• Eggs, ADHD, and Family Banter: [18:06–25:16, 43:35–47:45]
• Diabetes Strategy and Podcast Learning: [32:13–34:11]
• Low Blood Sugar Experiences & Emergency Planning: [35:08–38:30]
• Parental Roles & Family Dynamics: [53:44–54:42, 60:18–61:02]
• Offbeat Family & Dog Stories: [61:04–62:53]
• Tin Foil Revelation & Pica Discussion: [63:55–66:56]

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Tone & Style

The episode is filled with laughter, light teasing, and honest moments. Scott maintains a relaxed pace, blending humor with insight. Trey is an earnest, witty, and mostly unfiltered preteen, while Stephanie brings both compassionate and practical perspectives as a mom and ER nurse.

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Summary

This episode offers a relatable, down-to-earth look at how one family navigates the realities of type 1 diabetes—balancing medical vigilance, school, sports, family quirks, and even breakfast egg preferences. Listeners will find both valuable diabetes management tips and the reassurance that “normal” family chaos and humor persist, even (or especially) with a chronic health condition.

Transcript

[A]

Hello, friends. Welcome to the Juice Box Podcast. Happy holidays to everyone juggling carbs, cookies, and the chaos of this season.

[B]

Hi, my name's Trey. Let me do that again.

[A]

No, no, no, that's all. Oh, that's all. Staying in. Ah, Rob. This is the beginning of the episode right here. Don't edit it out.

[B]

Oh, that's amazing. My name is Stephanie.

[A]

I am.

[B]

Three kids.

[A]

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[B]

Test.

[A]

Awesome. So when you're ready, Stephanie, go ahead and introduce yourself any way you want to be known. Last name's not important as far as I'm concerned, but I don't care if you use yours. And then, Trey, when your mom's done, you jump in and introduce yourself, okay?

[C]

Okay.

[A]

All right. Go ahead, Stephanie.

[B]

Hi, my name's Trey. Let me do that again.

[A]

No, no, no, that's all. Oh, that's all. Staying in. Ah, Rob. This is the beginning of the episode right here. Don, that's amazing.

[B]

My name is Stephanie. I am the mom of three Kids Ellie, Trey and Sullivan. Trey is my middle one. He's 13, and he's my one with type one.

[C]

Hello. I'm Trey. Yeah, I'm the child. The middle child. It's fun. I'm 13. I've been diagnosed. I was diagnosed in, like, summer of 2023, I think.

[A]

Right?

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

You're correct.

[A]

So a little over two years.

[C]

Yeah, a little over two years.

[A]

And is your one of your siblings named after the Monsters Incorporated character or.

[C]

No, no, sadly, my dad wanted to name it after Sully Erna.

[A]

I don't know who that is.

[B]

The lead singer of God's Back.

[A]

Of Godsmack?

[C]

Yeah, it's a band.

[A]

I know it's a band. Right? I just. Just surprised me. How old are your parents? Try.

[C]

My dad is almost 50. He's 49.

[A]

That's crazy.

[C]

He's old.

[B]

It's his favorite band. And he said, I want to name him Sully. And I said, that's great, honey, but we need something for the boardroom. And so I settled on Sullivan, and he said, but Sully works for Sully Erna. I said, he is quite literally a rock star.

[A]

Do you call him Sully in the house?

[B]

We call him Sully most of the time.

[A]

All right. I don't know a lot of Godsmack, I gotta be honest with you. But he does, huh?

[B]

He does. I mean, it works for him.

[A]

Did you know. Were you just, like. I mean, I know, you know he likes the band, but when he said that, were you like, really, or did that make sense to you?

[B]

Oh, no, we had. He had talked about it many times, and I never really thought that he was serious. And the first two kids got family names, so the third one was a little up in the air. And he got his choice, and I toned it a little bit.

[A]

He got his choice. I bet you he paid for that in a number of ways. Okay.

[B]

Oh, no, no, I. The name is perfect for him. Sullivan is, like, the perfect name for him.

[A]

Very nice. All right. Well, Trey, what do you remember about being diagnosed with diabetes?

[C]

I remember that when I was diagnosed, my blood Sugar was, like, 640.

[A]

Do you remember how that made you feel?

[C]

Not good. I was in the middle of a lacrosse tournament, and I kind of threw up, like, twice during it, and. And then I went to the hospital, and we got home, and that's how I got diagnosed.

[A]

Oh, I got Trey. I'm sorry. I didn't laugh that you vomited. I laughed because I heard earlier that your sister plays lacrosse. You play lacrosse? Then I realized you guys are in Florida. And lacrosse is huge in Florida, isn't it?

[B]

Sorry. We actually live in Chicagoland.

[A]

Oh. Oh, that.

[B]

So we were in Florida for lacrosse.

[A]

You traveled from Chicago to Florida for a lacrosse tournament?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

Sully went to California all in January for Team Illinois lacrosse. He also went to Maryland in Rhode Island.

[A]

Are you guys all good at this, Trey? Like, how good are they?

[C]

Yeah, I'm a. I'm a good goalie.

[A]

Nice. Man. People throw that ball at you really hard, right?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Does it hurt?

[C]

My legs always hurt.

[A]

Yeah. Where does it hurt the most to get hit with a ball?

[C]

The inner thigh and, like, right on the in. Like on the inside of your elbow.

[A]

Oh, okay. Are those places not shielded or did just the ball just find you?

[C]

Sometimes they're not shielded. Bullies don't wear elbow pads. Their arms are free.

[A]

Oh, fun. So sometimes do you find yourself going, oh, I know. I'm moving my arm in front of this ball and it's really gonna hurt?

[C]

Probably.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. That's interesting.

[C]

I like to get hit.

[A]

Okay. You like it when balls hit you in the head?

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Well, they have a helmet on for that.

[A]

Stephanie, I was testing the boy's sarcasm there, and you jumped all over it. So now I don't know. I don't know where he's at. Let me try again.

[B]

He said my brain doesn't feel it anymore.

[A]

Good job, Trey.

[C]

My teammates keep sniping me in the face.

[A]

All right, so being diagnosed, not fun. Didn't feel well. Do you remember the lead up to it, Trey? Like, how you felt before you guys went to the hospital? And do you remember anything about how your parents handled it?

[C]

I was really dizzy and lightheaded because I was, like, really high. And also I lost a lot. I lost like 20 or 30 pounds.

[A]

In how long? What was the time frame, Stephanie?

[C]

He lost in, like, a four month period?

[B]

No, it was about a week.

[A]

Wait, he lost 20 pounds in a week?

[B]

Yeah, like a week or two. That was really what finally caught my attention. We think in retrospect, he had been fighting for several months, but the activity from daily practices and working out and just summer activities kept his blood sugar stable enough that maybe it's slow to.

[A]

So the process down of you figuring it out?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Because there was so many things leading into it. You know, his. He was peeing more and drinking more, but his coaches told him to stay hydrated.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I was able to write that off. He was sleepy, but he was playing video games until late at night. And he had multiple practices. So, again, able to play that off.

[A]

Yeah, a lot of stuff masks, everything else. It's pretty cool.

[B]

I mean, it's all, like, the. The common things. The final straw was that last week, his tournament, his last tournament was the Sunday before he was diagnosed. And that week, I looked at him and I'm like, gosh, he looks thinner. He looks. Maybe he's taller. Maybe he's growing. And then he had multiple overnight accidents the weekend that he was diagnosed, and I knew something wasn't right.

[A]

Let me ask Trey a question here. So because you're old enough to really ask this question at 11 years old, you don't pee in your bed. So when that starts happening, do you remember, like, what did you think was going on or what were you concerned about when that was happening?

[C]

I don't know.

[A]

You don't remember? No, no.

[B]

He hid the first couple from us.

[A]

Yeah. I would have to. Trey, well done. You know what I mean? Would you, like, put it in the laundry on your own or something like that?

[C]

No, he just moved in the basement on a mattress.

[A]

That mattress has been thrown away.

[B]

The mattress has been thrown away. So has the one on his bed. We replaced both of those that next week.

[A]

Hey, no one ever talks about the high side of being diagnosed with type 1 diabetes. Is that you get a new mattress.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Pretty great, right? Is there anybody else in the family who has diabetes? Is there any reason for you to think about this?

[C]

There's like a. There's like a. A cousin on my mom's or something.

[B]

One of my first cousins has diabetes. She was diagnosed as an adult.

[A]

She has type one.

[B]

She is type one.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And I have an uncle by marriage, but no relation.

[A]

How about other autoimmune stuff down that side of the family?

[B]

My grandmother was rheumatoid arthritis. I have what I think are. But never diagnosed. Like, I think there's thyroid stuff, but the numbers are always normal. So they say I'm fine, you know?

[A]

Yeah. What are the numbers? Do you remember?

[B]

Not off the top of my head. They're borderline, but still within the normal range.

[A]

But you have symptoms?

[B]

I've got the exhaustion. I've got. I've got food intolerances.

[A]

Why don't you tell them that you would prefer if your symptoms were managed and not your numbers?

[B]

I'm working on that. I've changed providers a couple of times. I was actually finishing nursing school when Trey was diagnosed.

[A]

Oh. What kind of nurse are you?

[B]

I'm an emergency room nurse.

[A]

Oh, awesome. I just interviewed Dr. Beech. Jim, do you know who that is? Are you on the line?

[B]

I am online, but I don't know who that is.

[A]

She does, like a lot of TikTok and Instagram stuff.

[B]

Oh, you know what? I think I just started seeing her come across my stuff.

[A]

Okay. Yeah, she's very, very popular. And I just interviewed her the other day. She's gonna be on the podcast next week. I'll tell you something that no one else will know, but if I hear it in public, I'll know it was you that gave me up, Stephanie, because I don't think Trey's going to remember. I'm going to put together like a five or six episode series with her about going into the ER with type one.

[B]

That would be awesome. Yes. And I do know who she is. She just popped across my Facebook feed in the last three or four weeks.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And I started following her.

[A]

Millions of followers. Really something.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

My wife's been telling me about her for, like years. And then I think, I don't know, like a week or two. It was probably two weeks ago. Now my wife brings her up again. She goes, you really should try to get her on the podcast. I was like, why would she come on my podcast? And then she put up a post about diabetes awareness. And then I basically, like, wrote a post and I was like, hey, everybody, what if we all asked Dr. Beach Jim. If she wanted to come on the podcast? And then she got inundated by people who listened to the podcast, which I appreciate. Thank you, everybody. And then that got her on. So. And she was lovely, like, really awesome. So I'm excited about it. Anyway, okay, so there's some autoimmune in your family. You probably have Hashimoto's or hypothyroidism.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

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[B]

Other than Trey with his diabetes, my daughter. I'm actually in the process of having my daughter's thyroid tested as we speak. We were at the provider a couple weeks ago and I have to catch up with them because we had a couple of weeks of tournaments.

[A]

What's her symptoms?

[B]

Similar to mine. She's got exhaustion. She's got some stomach issues. I was listening to one of the old episodes where you were talking about Arden and the stomach issues and that kind of triggered me to go. I think I need to have l checked out. Yeah, so we're in the middle of that right now.

[A]

Okay, well, good luck. I hope you get good news.

[B]

I just want answers.

[A]

Yeah, or an answer. One or the other. Okay, cool. So, Trey, what's it like having diabetes for the last two years? Your friends cool with it? Is it getting in the way of you playing?

[C]

Yeah, my friends are cool with it. Sometimes my alarm goes off during school and like during reading times when it's really quiet and they're loud. So it's kind of embarrassing.

[A]

Sometimes you're embarrassed by it?

[C]

No, by the alarm. Because it's like a screaming.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. I'm saying when that alarm goes off, you feel embarrassed?

[C]

Sometimes.

[A]

Sometimes. Oh, I'm sorry about that. Do you usually mute them?

[C]

Yeah, I watch it solo.

[A]

You watch it? You don't ignore it?

[C]

I don't ignore. I just mute. I just mute it for the time being.

[A]

Are you making most of your decisions, or are you and your mom or dad doing it through text messages? How do you handle school time?

[C]

Sometimes text messages. Sometimes I handle it on my own with the school nurse.

[A]

Okay. You still go to the nurse?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

For everything or just some things for the lunch?

[C]

Carbs? Because I get school lunch and they have, like, the menu in there with all the carbs on it.

[A]

Okay. Okay. Does that usually go well?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You're pretty good with, like, how the boluses end up and everything. Stephanie, are you good with how they end up?

[B]

He's doing really good. Only thing that he could really work on is a little bit better. Pre bolus sometimes, but get in line. Trey, in general, I'm really proud of how he manages while he's at school because he is fairly independent. The nurse follows him, but really more just to take care of the lows because he doesn't always catch him when he's in pe so she'll have to do that. But most of the time.

[A]

Most of the time, it goes well. Trey, how does it feel to hear your mom say she's proud of you and she thinks you're doing a good job?

[C]

Yay.

[A]

Is that. Is that the full contextualization of how you feel?

[C]

Yay.

[A]

Seriously, though, like, it. What's that response? Like, does it. Is it embarrassing or.

[C]

It feels good.

[A]

It feels good. Okay. Do you work hard at it?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Nice to hear somebody say something that recognizes what you're doing.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Just hard to tell. Something nice to your mom, right?

[C]

Kind of.

[A]

We don't want her to think she's doing too good of a job. She might get a big head. You know what I mean?

[C]

Kind of.

[A]

Let's say some bad stuff about her. What does she suck at? One thing she's not great at. Tell me now.

[C]

Cooking eggs.

[B]

Cooking eggs.

[A]

What does she make your.

[C]

Every single time?

[A]

Oh, Stephanie, why don't you know how to make eggs?

[B]

I do. What, every single time?

[A]

You burn his eggs constantly.

[C]

There's no moisture left.

[B]

That's because he likes them runny. He likes his scrambled eggs runny.

[A]

Why are you fighting with him about that? Let him have his eggs the way.

[B]

He wants them so he can make them the way he wants them.

[A]

Oh, but you won't be making them the way he wants them, huh?

[B]

Because I don't like them that way, and I don't make them that way.

[A]

Oh, Trey. She's not willing to learn your style, my friend. There's only so far. No, no, no, Stephanie. There's only so far your love will go. I see. That's fine.

[B]

Yeah, that's totally it. I've tried. It just doesn't happen.

[A]

Can I tell you something? I can. I make eggs the way I make them, and my family complains about them. And then they stood me in front of the stove and gave me a tutorial about how to make the eggs the way they want them. I thought. I was so embarrassed. I was like, wait, are you really all. They all stood around me. They're like, yeah. Now flip it. Turn the heat down. Do this. This is what. See, right. My arden goes right here. Here's where the cheese goes on. I was like, oh, okay.

[B]

Oh, that's amazing.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, we'll see. So take it, Stephanie. Just let him show you how to make the eggs and just do it. I'll get this fixed for you, Trey. Don't worry. Okay?

[B]

He has shown me. I try.

[A]

Is she trying, Trey, or is she resisting?

[C]

No, no, no.

[B]

I don't take him out of the pan in time.

[A]

Is this passive aggressive, Stephanie?

[B]

No.

[A]

Are you sure?

[C]

It's because she goes on Facebook during the cooking.

[A]

Oh, Stephanie, that hurt. Must have hurt to hear him say that out loud, huh?

[B]

My opinion of Dun Eggs and his opinion of Dun Eggs are two different opinions.

[A]

Does it hurt when he points out that you're on social media while you're supposed to be cooking for him?

[C]

No.

[A]

That you're okay with that?

[B]

That's fine.

[A]

Sometimes we look over at Kelly.

[C]

I can't be complaining. I watch YouTube and tick tock while I cook my eggs, but I actually watch the eggs while I do it.

[A]

Look at you. You can multitask. Does your mom have adhd? Do you think maybe she can't focus?

[C]

I can't focus.

[A]

Oh, you can't?

[C]

My brain won't let me.

[A]

Stephanie, does he have a problem or no?

[B]

He might.

[A]

Yeah. Is it in the family?

[B]

My oldest. Yeah, okay.

[C]

Has adhd.

[A]

Trey, did you say drive?

[C]

No.

[A]

Trey, did you say my brain won't focus?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

No, he said. Oh, I. I thought he said Ellie had adhd.

[A]

No, he did, but he said my brain won't focus. I Think I heard it in between something there.

[C]

It won't let me focus.

[A]

It won't let you? It's. It's.

[C]

If I don't like the thing, I can't focus on it.

[A]

Your mom. Your mom won't let you eat eggs the way you want either. How runny do you like them, Trey?

[C]

I don't like them too runny. I like them semi runny, where they actually still have moisture left.

[A]

Can I make a suggestion for you, Trey? It's going to sound like an old man talking, and you're not going to make sense of it.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

A poached egg. You might love it.

[C]

I've tried poached eggs before. They're pretty good.

[A]

Yeah, I love a poached thing. As we're talking about it. I might eat it for lunch, now that I'm saying it out loud.

[B]

He actually went on YouTube and watched a video to teach himself how to poach an egg.

[C]

I poached one egg one time.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And it turned out horribly because it exploded as soon as it hit the water. And then I got mad.

[A]

Okay, so the water needs to be very low, not very hot. And you need to put, like, a tablespoon of white vinegar in the water, and that helps the eggs stay together in a nice form. And then that. That's the whole thing. Right? That's for all of you. A little bit of white vinegar. Low. Not a rolling boil or anything like that. Like, low heat. Put them in. Then you can bring the heat up a little bit, and then you can kind of control it before you take it out. Then I like taking it out with a, like one of. Like a serrated spoon kind of a situation.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

And then I like to let the water come off it a little bit before I put it over my toast. That's just me.

[B]

I put it in with a ladle.

[A]

Look at you. Gentle. I don't do that. I throw them in. Boom.

[C]

Like that.

[A]

Like, it's nothing. Trey, do you know my son taught himself to parallel park with a YouTube video? You guys, you're a different group. Like your. Your generation and young. Yeah, yeah, we were. We were. I've probably told this before, so I'll go real quickly, but we were, like, doing, like, a last minute practice before he was going to go take his test. And I just. It hit me out of nowhere, he had never parallel parked the car. And I completely forgot that was part of the test. And I said to him the day before, I was like, oh, my God, Cole. Like, we never taught you how to parallel park. That's part of the test. And he just stopped. Like, I tried to teach him, and he was like, eh. He pulled out his phone, watched one video and was like, all right. Then he put the car and drive. Drove around the parking lot and parallel parked the car. I was like, huh, okay. You guys are living in a different world. The one your mom. How old's your mom again? You said she was old, right?

[C]

I think she's like 47 or 48.

[A]

Oh, geez. Does she make noise when she stands up?

[B]

Sometimes.

[A]

She stand up. She go, oh, when she walks. So after you guys are sitting on the sofa for an hour and she walks away, is she a little bent forward, or is she able to stand straight up and walk away? Try.

[C]

She's able to stand straight up.

[A]

Wow. Look for that other thing to come.

[C]

Walking and running all over the hospital all the time.

[A]

Oh, yeah, right. That's your. What was her job before this?

[B]

So I've had a couple of jobs before the kids were born. I taught middle school math and high school social studies. And after that, I was home for several years, and I went back to manage a swim school after my youngest was about two. And I did that for, like, five years.

[A]

What made you go into nursing?

[B]

After my kids were born, I wanted to do childbirth, and I wanted to do midwifery. I wanted to catch the babies.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The easiest path in Illinois is as a nurse midwife, which would require me to have a nursing degree. So that was my original path. And then while in nursing school, Trey was diagnosed, and it kind of changed my whole trajectory. My last semester, I was exposed to so many different things in nursing. That's like, I don't want to just do one thing. I want to do many things.

[A]

Yeah. The midwife thing is. It's pretty crazy. A midwife and a doula. Those are two different things. Right.

[B]

And I've done both. Well, I haven't done midwife, but I was a doula after my young. My oldest was born.

[A]

How many births have you been involved in?

[B]

About 15. I only did it for about a year and a half before Ellie and I moved from St. Louis to San Antonio, where my husband was working for a year and a half. And then I had another child, and it kind of became difficult to schedule.

[A]

You're the middle child trend. That's how.

[C]

That's how we know I was born in San Antonio.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Texas. You're a Texan.

[C]

Biggest city in the biggest state.

[A]

Are you technically a Texan?

[B]

He is.

[A]

How does it feel. Do you feel better than other people? You don't judge sometimes. Look at you. Real serious question, Stephanie. Like, transformative to be around that many births. Like, is it. Does it change your perspective on the world at all?

[B]

It is amazing to watch. It's just every time a baby is born, I cry. It's a renewal and a new opportunity, and it's just a miracle to watch. So it's still a passion of mine, but Trey's diagnosis kind of changed my trajectory, and instead of working in the birthing suite, more or less, I ultimately want to work with the reproductive side of it and then endocrinology. So I have one more step to go, and I'm going back for my nurse practitioner so that I can do endo.

[A]

Oh, very nice. I mean, being in the emergency department has got to be the polar opposite of watching a child be born, right? Like, isn't it. Is it crazy?

[B]

I mean, it's not. It's not as crazy as you would think it is most of the time, really. It's fast paced. You never know what a day is going to bring. Depending on which part of the ER I'm in, I could be in the main ER and I could have a code come in. I could have a critical care patient where I'm the only. They're my only patient. But I could also be in our fast track area, and I can have six people. Some are abdominal pain, some is maybe a broken bone. Like, you never know what your day is going to bring.

[A]

Do you have experiences? Like, if I said to you, stephanie, have you saved a life? Can you honestly say yes, I have.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah. Isn't it crazy, Trey, that she saved someone's life but can't get your eggs right?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah. So it's disappointing, isn't it? Simpler, you would think, but apparently not.

[B]

Depends on your perspective.

[A]

I'm sorry, I asked you that question just so I can say that to try. And I feel bad now. I just assume you've saved somebody's life if you're in the er. But I was like, oh, how can I get this back to the eggs? Is what I was thinking. Also.

[B]

It's all about the eggs.

[A]

It really is, honestly. True enough. So is childbirth. So, yeah. Yeah, right. Everything's about the eggs, really. And I am definitely having poached eggs for lunch. When I'm done recording with you, I'm gonna finish recording with you. I'm gonna have a call with John from Sugar Pixel. I don't know if you guys know Sugar Pixel. You know what that is?

[B]

I do.

[A]

Yeah. John and I are gonna go on a little tour of America in 2026. I think we're doing ADA ADC ES. Friends for Life Together.

[B]

Oh, that'll be fun.

[A]

Yes, it will. Look for us. We'll be out there. I don't do a lot of that. What I just did just now, I feel like a YouTuber. I'm like, subscribe and follow. I'm going to be at adac. Sorry. I feel like a douchebag, though. That.

[B]

That's a lot of. A lot of letters.

[A]

Adacs. American Diabetes Educator. Care, Special Specialists. Is that right? Did I get that right, Trey? Let's look real quick, because I would be super happy with myself if I got that right. Give me a second. A.D. what?

[B]

Yeah. Certified diabetes specialist, I think is what it.

[A]

I don't know. It's possible. I have no idea. They invited me to come speak a couple times. Then I told them what I wanted to talk about, and they said no. It's like, okay, fine, you're not a doctor. You can't talk about that. I don't know. It's. Yeah. And then ada. That one's easy, right? Friends for Life. Have you guys ever been to Friends for Life or anything like that? Trey, do you know a lot of people with diabetes?

[C]

I know another lacrosse goalie with it. His name's Anthony. Wait, I. I seriously used to play with him. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know another lacrosse goalie who has diabetes?

[C]

Yeah, he's.

[B]

He's in the same general area of us, and we met him this summer, I think the summer after Trey was diagnosed. He. Trey either had a dexcom failure or he was running low, and I was running around the field to bring him something. The other dad was like, oh, I thought I heard an alarm.

[A]

No kidding.

[B]

And it. Yeah, he lives, like, 30 minutes from us. He's a couple years older, and the. Trey's taking a couple of spots that he recommended. And where's his dexcom and his pump there for games and whatnot?

[A]

Wow. That's awfully bizarre and kind of cool. So. Yeah, very. What a. What a strange little thing. What makes you want to do the podcast? I'll start with you, Stephanie.

[B]

So I really just enjoyed listening. Trey was the one that wanted to do it, and I'm like, well, if you do it, I'll go on with you. So he's really the reason that we came on. He wanted to talk about dealing day to day with it as a. A preteen and a kid, and then how he manages athletically.

[A]

Well, Trey, you wanted to come on the podcast, but your mom would you. You want to bring your mommy with you? What's going on, Troy?

[C]

She wouldn't let me do the podcast alone because I didn't think she trusted me yet.

[A]

She just lied to me. Trey, did she just lie to me about why she's here?

[B]

I did not.

[C]

I wanted to go on the podcast because I thought it would be fun, and I wanted my own episode on there.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But I wanted to do it solo, and mom wouldn't let me.

[A]

Oh, my gosh. Try. Don't you think she should get off now? Let us talk, and maybe she could go practice some eggs. You know what I mean? See if she can't get.

[C]

Practice your eggs.

[A]

Mom, can you imagine? I don't mean that in any way. Way that someone's going to yell at me for. Like, he told that lady to get in the kitchen. I heard him. He doesn't like women. I don't know. I hear you and your complaints about the world out there. Take it out on somebody else. Okay, so, Trey, tell me.

[B]

It's always the middle one. They're the troublemakers.

[A]

Trey, what is it you want to do? I mean, what is it you want people to know? Or what do you want to share?

[C]

So we started listening to your podcast, like, last year, was it, mom, it.

[B]

Was two years ago. I found the podcast in September or October after he was diagnosed in the end of July. I was like, there's got to be an easier way to do this.

[C]

And we started. We started listening to it, and we tried out pre bolusing, and it worked really well because I didn't go to 250 after I ate my food.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I stayed, like, at 200 max.

[A]

Nice.

[C]

For the first couple. For the first week that we tried it.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And it worked really well. So we. We've been. Keep on doing that.

[A]

Where do you hope that your blood sugar doesn't go above now when you eat? What's your goal?

[C]

200. Don't go above 200.

[A]

That's how you feel. And how. And what happens if you get to 200? What do you do?

[C]

I take more insulin.

[A]

All right. Look at you, Stephanie. You're saying it wasn't going well. So when he had diabetes for, like, three months, and you started thinking like, this can't be the answer.

[B]

Well, I was like, there's got to be more. You know, I. I was managing okay, but it was every waking thought that I had was, where's his number? How Much insulin has he had? How much, you know, how long do we have? And then he wants to eat again.

[A]

I know, right?

[C]

I like food.

[A]

Okay, well, no, no, Trey, you're not doing anything wrong. But, like, when you're a person who's trying to figure it out, like, just as you feel like you've got the bolus from the last meal figured out, somebody's like, I'm hungry. And you're like, oh, my God. I just need a second. Hold on. Just feels.

[B]

I was exhausted.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So it was really.

[A]

So you find the podcast and you go right to management series stuff. Is that what you did?

[B]

Well, actually, I started at the beginning, so I'm still. Still working through the episodes. I haven't listened to new episodes yet.

[C]

Oh, more like episode 300. Ish.

[B]

Nope, I'm about episode 400.

[A]

Oh, I love that.

[B]

Still working through. So, I mean, in two years, I've listened to not quite 400 episodes, but still working through it.

[A]

But things are going the way you want now.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, his last appointment, his A1C was 5 9.

[A]

Good job, man.

[B]

His endo walks in the room, he goes, I don't have anything to say to you. You're my best, best patient of the day. And, you know, he's had that a couple of times now. He. The last three A1Cs were like, 596 or 6 1, and then 59 again. The first time we got 5 9, he's like, oh, I want to make sure you're not having too many lows. And I'm like, really? We're not. Yeah, but. Okay, I'll. I'll be a little bit less aggressive.

[A]

After you prove to him that that wasn't the case. Did he leave you alone on that?

[B]

He did. Over the summer, his A1C went from, like, that 5:9 to 6 or 6:1. And the two weeks before we went in, he was at diabetes camp. His blood sugar ran so high the whole week, so I was able to see. He's like, what happened here? I'm like, oh, he was at camp. Oh, okay.

[A]

Trey, do you feel prepared to take care of yourself? Like, if your mom just, like, I don't know, she just disappeared for five, five days. Would you be okay?

[C]

Yeah, there's plenty of.

[A]

What is it that you've learned in the last two years that makes you feel like, yeah, I could be fine.

[C]

I can pre bullets early enough, and I have plenty of food, so I'll be okay?

[A]

Yeah. Do you get scared of being low ever?

[C]

No, not really.

[A]

Have you been really low?

[C]

I've been to, like, low 30s.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Upper 20s. I have, like, the lows. I've been, I think, like 28, 29.

[A]

How'd that feel? Can you describe it?

[C]

I kept screaming for juice. Just give me sunny D. Just juice.

[A]

You're just yelling. Were you being helped? Like somebody was helping you?

[C]

Yes. Mom was bringing me food, but she was telling me to relax, otherwise my blood sugar would go to infinite.

[A]

Could you have Trey helped yourself if she wasn't there, do you think?

[C]

Yeah, I probably would have just kept grabbing Morris food.

[A]

Okay. Stephanie, do you remember that situation?

[B]

There's been a couple of times where I've had to keep him from eating. The kitchen.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Wants to keep grabbing the food. I'm like, okay, so we've got to give this a couple of minutes to work. If we're not going back up in, like, 10, we will eat a little bit more. But as it is, I already. I'm going to have to give you insulin.

[A]

Can you talk a little bit about, like, the sort of psychological side of that? When that's over, Stephanie, do you go somewhere quiet for a minute? Like, how does it hit you afterwards?

[B]

You know, it's.

[A]

Maybe the nursing brain doesn't let you feel too upset by it.

[B]

I feel like I respond less than a lot of my peers who don't have a lot of experience with diabetes. I mean, I respond, but I don't respond in that I'm going to throw all of the sugar at it kind of way.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, more like, are you upset about your son being low afterward? Like, after you've handled it? Do you have, like, any existential, like, oh, my God, my kid's to going got really low. That was super close to a seizure kind of feelings.

[B]

It makes me nervous.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, I almost congratulate myself. Okay, we prevented another one. He's luckily never had. Knock on wood, a seizure. Always had glucagon on hand, but he's never had to use it again. Knock on wood.

[A]

Trey, which glucagon do you have?

[C]

We have like two or three pen ones.

[A]

Yeah, gvoke.

[C]

And then we have one or two nasal.

[A]

Wait, you just got. Wait, you got the whole thing, Stephanie, why? You got both of them? What's the play there?

[B]

So the gvoke was what was prescribed first, and then I heard about the Beskimi, I think is. I wanted to see what it was about and try it. We haven't used it, so I've got one prescription of that. It was more about Just having it on hand, and I feel like the G voke is more socially understood because it's the same as an EpiPen.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

It's similar to EpiPen.

[A]

Yeah, but you still tried the back semi.

[B]

Well, we have it. We haven't never used.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, you. But. Well, yeah, but you. You got it, is what I'm saying.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I think that it's a thing that doesn't get used very often. It's super important to have it. I'm glad you have any. I want to be clear. Everyone out there, you got back to me. You got. You vote. I'm happy you have. Happy you have glucagon with you. I hope everybody's carrying it.

[C]

We have a gvoke in the nurse's office at school. We have one that sits at home in our little diabetes basket by the fridge where we keep all my, like, some stuff. And then I have one in my diabetes bag I bring around with me.

[A]

So you have them spread around because. And you can't keep all of your glucagon in one basket, Right?

[B]

Yep. Nope.

[A]

Yeah. Just like you don't want. Yes. Yes. You don't want to put all your eggs in one basket. Try. Trey, tell me about playing sports with diabetes. What do you have to do to prep? What do you have to do while you're playing? What do you have to do after you're playing?

[C]

So when I go on the field for goalie, I. My. My diet puts my blood sugar about like 1:30, 1:50 ish. So in case I drop, I have time to catch it. Because if I'm at 100 and I start dropping. Yeah. I might not have enough time to catch it, and I might have to go off the field for a minute.

[A]

You wearing a pump?

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Which one?

[C]

Omnipod.

[A]

Omnipod. Omnipod 5.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

What do you do? You set the target differently, because with that target can be put in, like, three different places. You make a higher target in activity mode. Activity mode. And that kind of brings your blood sugar up a little bit before you play.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Do you eat before you play?

[C]

Sometimes.

[A]

Do you find that you get low more frequently when you've eaten before the game?

[C]

Because if I have insulin on board, it activates when I'm. When I'm, like, doing workout and stuff. When I'm exercising, it activates quicker the insulin does, and then my blood sugar goes down quicker.

[A]

Trey, you trying to make me cry?

[C]

No.

[A]

I'm so happy you know that. Thank you. Oh, I feel like my life Means something that you said that out loud. That's so awesome. How did you learn that?

[C]

You.

[A]

Oh, Trey, I swear, I, I, I, I'm gonna sound less manly than I did back when I was telling your mom to get back in the kitchen. I got a tear in my eye from that. That was wonderful. I mean, I'm so happy for you that you know that. It's really great.

[C]

Also, drinking water makes the insulin activate quicker.

[A]

Yeah, Staying hydrated, right? Makes everything work better. Do you guys get disconnected?

[B]

No, I'm here.

[A]

Oh, okay. Trey, are you there?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, he's like voice. Did you. You heard it too, right, Stephanie? Like, his voice started to, like, fade away while he was talking about water. Am I the only one that heard that?

[B]

I think he was talking too long. He just ran out of breath.

[A]

Does that happen, trader? You sometimes talk so long you pass out?

[C]

No.

[A]

No.

[C]

I don't know. My phone. My phone glitches sometimes.

[A]

That's okay. Maybe you need a new phone for Christmas.

[C]

No, I had a new phone just.

[B]

A couple months ago.

[A]

Trey, I'm trying to help you because.

[C]

My old phone's kind of exploded.

[A]

Oh.

[C]

Yeah, it doesn't work anymore. It doesn't want to turn on.

[A]

Yeah, if you don't need the phone, then we pivot to something else that you want. Don't just say no.

[C]

So I want an ebike. Mom won't give me one because they're too expensive. I want one. It's like $600. It goes like 30 miles an hour.

[A]

Wait, you want to drive 30 miles an hour?

[B]

That's the problem.

[A]

I bet. I was going to say, I bet you it ain't the $600 stopping you from getting the E bike. Because I heard all three of you are all over the country playing lacrosse. Your mom's got six Hyundai. She could. She don't want you going that fast. You understand?

[C]

I can go, but I can go to school in 10 minutes. I think I can stay a little bit.

[A]

Stop it, Trey. I agree with your mom. You're completely wrong. You're not getting an E bike. I'm sorry.

[C]

No fair.

[A]

Your mother and I have spoken.

[C]

PlayStation and PS5. Giving me a PS5. My PS4 is glitchy. It doesn't want to work.

[B]

Listen, I love you too much to get an E bike for you because you make stupid choices. Sometimes I would.

[C]

I would decide to do the do the Superman flying pose while going 30 miles an hour down Main Street.

[B]

Yeah, like I said, stupid choices.

[A]

Trey, I think it would be easier if your mom just grabbed you by the ankles, smacked your head on the ground, and then, like. And then save the 600. You know what I mean? That's not good. You don't. You don't need that.

[B]

That could be arranged, too.

[A]

We're not saying that's not going to happen. Yeah, man, I. Listen, I hate to say this. I don't usually say stuff like that. You're too young. I wouldn't let you have it either. Yo, you want to know?

[C]

My friend has an ebike and they ride it to school. It goes. Their. Their bike goes 50 miles an hour.

[A]

You know why they have one?

[C]

Because their parents trust them.

[A]

No. Your mom knows why. Because their parents don't love them.

[C]

That's why their parents own a pizza place.

[A]

Well, I don't know, Because. Wait, what does that have to do with anything?

[B]

Because their parents don't work in the ER and see kids come in with injuries from doing stupid things.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And also, they have. They have a lot of money from the restaurant.

[A]

The pizza money.

[C]

The pizza money.

[A]

I'll tell you right now, Trey, your slightly offensive Italian accent aside, let me say this, okay? I think about this all the time. That pizza business has got to be a cash cow, right? Because what are we really doing here? Dough, cheese, an oven, little sauce. Yeah, right. It can't be that. The overhead's gotta be mostly the building. I don't think the ingredients are much. I think that's a. That's a license to print money. That pizza thing. People love pizza, too.

[B]

Shoe.

[A]

What happened there? I didn't hear you.

[C]

My brother's here. Sullivan. Shoo.

[A]

Yeah. Get him out of there. How old is he?

[C]

Shoo, fly. Mom's also on the podcast. Go.

[B]

Trey, be nice.

[A]

Yes, Trey. I know you're trying to be funny, Trey, and it's not working, but it's not your fault.

[C]

Throw a dog toy out of him.

[A]

Well, that would be.

[B]

Sullivan is a whole.

[A]

Is a whole what?

[B]

A whole year and a half. Younger than Trey.

[A]

Oh, Trey. Yeah. What's it like to be so much more mature?

[C]

I'm also bigger than him. I'm taller than him.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I'm going to snipe you with a shoe.

[B]

Boys.

[A]

Yeah. Don't throw things. But if you throw something, make it a squeaky toy, because that would be funny. Did you get him with a. A toy? A squeaky toy.

[B]

I hit him.

[C]

I had one of my shoes.

[A]

I don't think that's right. Although Ike Turner found it very effective.

[C]

It is very effective.

[A]

Yeah. That's a joke for maybe five people.

[B]

This is my everyday.

[A]

Yeah. No, Stephanie, you have a. You have a problem over there. I know. The two boys that close in age, that's not good.

[B]

19 months apart. And it's, it's. It's constant. Yes. Sometimes he feeds it.

[A]

You think he's doing that to get back at you or do you think. What do you think's going on there?

[B]

My husband was one of seven. His house was always like that too.

[A]

Oh, he just likes it. Yeah, it probably feels normal to him.

[B]

He thrives on it. A little crazy.

[A]

You got any brothers or sisters, Stephanie?

[B]

I have two. I have one of each. I'm the oldest of three.

[A]

Okay, all right. I hear that you're the oldest in your voice when you talk about this stuff.

[C]

By the way, the youngest one of her siblings is my Uncle Stephen.

[A]

Oh yeah, Uncle Stephen. Go ahead.

[C]

He lives on like a farm. Ish. He has two horses named Flash and Bentley. He also has two goats named Andy and Ella. And my little cousins. They're. They're fun to play with. One's five and one's like two year old. Yeah, right, Mom?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

That's cool. Hey, although I don't understand what farm ish means kind of farm. Does he have chickens?

[C]

Yes, he has chickens.

[A]

Do they lay eggs?

[C]

Yes, they make the eggs. They make the breakfast.

[A]

Do you ever have the eggs from the chickens from the Uncle Stephen?

[C]

Sometimes they give them to us.

[A]

Are they better than the eggs from the store?

[C]

Yes.

[A]

How? Please tell me how.

[C]

They're more fresh or they taste better. They don't go through weird factory processes. They just come from the chicken coop. They get washed off and then they get put in a curtain and sent to us.

[B]

Sounds like Steven really is all about the eggs. My gosh.

[A]

Well, you guys brought it up. Not me. Stephen sounds like he got a hold of you. Told you. Good about those eggs, huh?

[C]

Eggs. Yummy.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they're from Chicago. They're Chicago eggs.

[B]

They are Chicago eggs.

[C]

Well, Chicago land eggs.

[A]

Local politics in Chicago.

[B]

Almost. Wisconsin eggs.

[A]

Almost. Oh, west Ish.

[B]

Far northwest.

[A]

How far? How close are you to the train station?

[B]

Which train station?

[A]

By the football field.

[B]

Union State or downtown, I think.

[C]

Yeah, we're about a two hour drive.

[B]

It's about an hour and 20 minute train ride.

[A]

The problem there is that Trey was doing the math on and you were doing the math in the car. He's like, that's about two hours. Yeah, two hours by drive.

[C]

It's a two hour drive in a car.

[B]

Your mom says no, that's with the train.

[C]

The train doesn't stop, though. The train doesn't stop, though.

[A]

Wait, what the hell are you talking about, Trey?

[B]

She.

[C]

The train. She said a train ride is an.

[A]

Hour hour long there from where you are. You have a train near you?

[C]

We have a train about 20ish minutes from our house.

[A]

I got you.

[C]

Train station.

[A]

How do you like living in the Midwest and where it's cold? Have you ever lived other. I mean, you lived in Texas, right? What. What are your feelings?

[C]

I lived in Texas for the first three, two or three months of my life, and then I took an aeroplane up to Illinois.

[A]

All right. I'm talking about your mom trying. Your mom lived in Texas. I know. You didn't stay there long. How long were you there, Stephanie?

[B]

So we were in Texas a little over a year and, like, 15 months. I loved it. I met, like, my group of people down there, but sadly, my husband was on a temporary assignment and he didn't get a permanent position down there, so we went back to where the corporate office was, I think.

[A]

I see. But you wish you were in Texas.

[B]

Yeah, I loved it.

[A]

Yeah. The cold sucks in Chicago.

[C]

I don't like the cold.

[A]

I don't either, Trey. It's upsetting to me. Starting to get cold here now, even though it doesn't work the same way as it did when I was a kid. Like, by. By now. Like, Stephanie, you're not my age, but you're close enough. Like, by now, November, it would have been, like, borderlining on getting frigid right now. Like, it would start getting. Yeah. And it's nice. My grass is still green. It's ridiculous.

[B]

We're still pretty green here. I mean, the trees are most. Well, they're mostly changed, and a lot of them have lost their leaves, but it's late this year for that and.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, feels like it shifts more every year. Really does.

[B]

It does.

[A]

Yeah. Like, it doesn't get super cold here, like, until February or March now. Like, it's just. I don't know. It's strange. Anyway, I agree with Trey. Let's all go to Texas. I don't want bad allergies, though. Is that going to happen to me in San Antonio?

[B]

My allergies weren't bad in San Antonio.

[A]

All right, I'm on my way then. Let's go. I'm tired. I'm tired of this.

[B]

I mean, we just spent the last week in Florida, and if it wasn't for the humidity, I would stay there, too.

[A]

Yeah, bugs not fair.

[C]

I wanted to go.

[A]

Well, you had school.

[C]

No.

[A]

What do you mean, no? You didn't have school?

[C]

They left Thursday night, and I got out of school. I got early release on Friday, which was at 12:30.

[A]

They didn't want to take you because you're a pain in the ass or what? Why didn't you get to come?

[C]

I didn't get to come because it was my sister's tournament and they did not feel like paying an extra, like, $600 for me to go there and back.

[A]

Yeah, it makes sense.

[C]

I mean, food costs.

[A]

They could have paid for the E bike with that money they saved.

[B]

Well, I mean, I told them, you get a tournament in Florida and you'll get to go.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, I see. Oh, she got invited, right? Like, she's down there getting recruited.

[B]

Her team went. It was a recruiting tournament for her team. She's on a 2027, an all junior team, so.

[A]

Nice. That's awesome. All right, so where are we taking all this, Trey? Like, we got our Omnipod 5. We're doing great with our A1C. You sound like you're on top of what's going on. You're learning about your diabetes. Like, how do you see this going the next couple of years? And are you thinking of going to college?

[C]

Yes, college. I hope my blood sugar stays good. My A1C stays good for the next couple years.

[A]

What are you thinking about? I know you're only 13, but this is the oldest you've ever been, so I don't mean to say only 13.

[C]

But I turned 13 about, like, three weeks ago.

[A]

Oh, you just turned 13? Happy birthday. What'd you get?

[C]

I got $20 from my auntie Kim. She lives in Maryland or. No, she lives in, like, Maryland. Virginia border.

[A]

Oh, hey, listen, in Maryland, money, that 20 is a 50. Now, what else you got? That's what you got. You get 20 bucks for your birthday. Your mom gets you anything?

[C]

She got me a cool lacrosse goalie sticker, but my friends, they got me a birthday crown.

[A]

Nice. Did anybody make your eggs the way you like them for your birthday?

[C]

They got me a watermelon, mango peelers, gummy thingies.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

They were also really good.

[A]

Nice. Nice.

[B]

And what did we get you right before your birthday? What did we just replace? Was it the phone your goalie had?

[A]

Your goalie?

[C]

My goalie had it kind of. It kind of started cracking at the base where it connects to the shaft of the stick. They started cracking.

[A]

Wait, wait, wait. What's a goalie head?

[C]

It's Basically a lacrosse head that's the size of a watermelon. It could hold a watermelon.

[A]

I don't understand what it's for, though.

[C]

It's for saving the cross stick.

[A]

Wait, I'm. I need an image of this.

[C]

Search up the cross.

[A]

Oh. Oh, it's the thing that holds the net on the end of your stick. Oh, I got it.

[B]

And he got. He got a whole new stick. He got his new head strung and dyed and a new shaft.

[C]

So I. I call my stick the Lucky Leprechaun, because I have shamrocks and it. And it has golden lettering on it, and it's green.

[A]

Dude, you are like a font of offensive impersonations. I love you. You call them. Are you Irish? Okay. I was gonna say, where did she come up with. Just because it was green? Because if it's green, you could have called it Godzilla. There's a lot of things you could have done.

[C]

It used originally. Used to be the Hulk stick, because I. I kind of send kids flying if they get too close to my crease.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But now it's the Lucky Leprechaun, and.

[A]

My wife does that too. All right, that one just fell flat. It's okay. Don't worry. Anyway, for the people listening, they got it. You get too close to Kelly's crease, she sends you flying. That's what.

[B]

I got it. I was letting Trey just do his thing.

[A]

He didn't do anything. Trey did nothing. Trey, I like you, but you're not exactly a man of many words.

[C]

No.

[A]

What made you think you could do a podcast by yourself for an hour?

[C]

I don't know.

[A]

You should say hubris, Scott. My.

[C]

My parents. My parents say I never stopped talking.

[A]

I know, but I asked you a question. You went. Yeah, you. You broke my heart on that one earlier. But I was like, tell me. Yeah. How's that make you feel? And you went, yeah. I was like, oh.

[C]

I said, yay.

[A]

Yeah, I don't know. I. I can't remember. It was, like, 20 minutes ago, so that might.

[B]

That might be going back to that. Why mom said, maybe I'll go on with you.

[A]

Yeah, no, I was trying to give her some. I was trying to give you some credit here. You did. Did a good job, Trey. Who helps you more with your diabetes, your mom or your dad?

[C]

Mom.

[A]

Does your dad know anything about it?

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Ish. Ish meaning not as much as my mom.

[A]

Do you know more about it than your dad does?

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Okay. Is your dad busy?

[C]

I didn't know you.

[A]

Why do you Think your dad has less knowledge about it?

[C]

Because my mom's a nurse and she know. And she works with kids with diabetes.

[A]

You think he's deferring to her?

[C]

Yeah, he refers to her a lot. Sometimes. A lot of the time he refers to her.

[A]

Do you wish he knew more about it? Are you happy with the division of labor on this?

[C]

I wish he knew more about it. I wish he knew as much as my mom.

[A]

How come?

[C]

Because then when my mom's on lacrosse shifts or she's at work for multiple hours at a time because she works 12 hour and 16 hour shifts, I wish my dad knew. Like, my mom knows, like, twice as much as he does.

[A]

Tell me why, though. Why do you wish she knew more?

[C]

Because he wouldn't have to call my mom so often. He wouldn't have to. And my mom wouldn't have to call him if my blood sugar goes high and I'm handling it.

[A]

But. Yeah, yeah, but. But women love it when their husbands call them and ask them all kinds of inane questions, don't you, Stephanie?

[C]

My mom doesn't. My mom gets mad.

[A]

No, no. I was.

[C]

I was frustrated.

[A]

Yeah, Trey, I was being sarcastic. They hate that. I'm pretty comfortable saying that, like, across the board. So can I tell a story here?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

In honor of the Thanksgiving, I brought our turkey home yesterday. And I got home and I put it on the counter, and I said to Kelly, I said, kel, why don't you come out and, like, find a place to put this in the refrigerator? Now, I say that because Kelly buys too much food and overstuffs the refrigerator. It's her fault. Everyone knows it. I am not saying anything.

[C]

My mom overstuffs the fridge as well because I eat everything.

[A]

I. I know it. I know. Don't worry. Try. And so I don't, because then something falls. Then I get irritated. Then she's irritated with me for being irritated that something fell. And then, like. So I just was like, why don't you come out and just do this, and I'll go do something else? And that way, you know, you can put this where you want it. And she said, oh, can't you figure out how to get the turkey in the refrigerator by yourself? She's being sarcastic with me, Trey. And so I said, oh, no, no, no, no. I'll take care of it. So I put the turkey in the refrigerator. Now, why don't I want to be the one to put the turkey in the refrigerator tray? You don't understand this yet because you're not married. But I don't want to later open myself up for commentary about how I put the turkey in the refrigerator, which is a real reason why I wanted her to do it. Not because she's better at it than.

[B]

I am, because you were going to.

[A]

Do it Wrong, Stephanie. That's neither here nor there. And it's not where the story ends. So then when the story ends, it's when she looks up at me a couple minutes later and. And tries to make a point sarcastically by going, oh, I see, you got the turkey in the refrigerator without my help, meaning you should have left me alone and not bothered me on this because you got. You see where I'm going with all this? I. Without a moment's notice. And, Trey, this is why you don't mess with somebody who has what they call a quick wit, okay? I said, well, Kelly, it turns out that the reasons I think you're valuable around here are going down every moment. You really should have come out here and taken care of this refrigerator thing, because now I'm seeing that, you know, maybe I did try, because I'm. I've been married for 30 years. I. I know I'm not going to get to be happy anymore. So now this is where I get my happiness. And so I said. I said, your. Your value here is. Is going down. Like, I. I don't even know why we're keeping you around. Exactly. And I said, and you're quite the drain on resources. I stopped myself from saying the next thing that popped in my head.

[C]

What was it?

[A]

I don't know, Trey. You're kind of young, Trey. You know what happens to the ladies every month.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah. Okay. So I was gonna say you're quite the drain on resources and we have to buy all those extra things for your vagina. That's what I was going to say, but I kept that part in my head because I'm not completely stupid. But I was so proud of myself when I said, you're quite the drain on resources. And now I have to reassess what it is you're adding back into the house because of this refrigerator thing. Anyway, I was just tickled. I thought if that was in a movie, that'd be a very funny moment. And then she did not. She did not think that was funny at all, in case anybody's wondering. So anyway, Trey, my turkey's in the refrigerator. It's safe. How big's your bird, Stephanie?

[B]

So I just got home at 10:30 last or 11:00 clock last night. I have to go out Today after we finish recording and buy it.

[A]

Stephanie, you don't have a bird yet?

[B]

Nope. And pray that it's thawed by the time I have to cook it in two days.

[A]

And you're going to be cooking for five people?

[B]

Yeah, I'm just cooking for the five of us.

[A]

What size bird do you like there for that?

[B]

So we nor I normally get way bigger than we need because we leftovers. I have leftovers and I make soup and stuff.

[A]

Do a whole thing.

[C]

So.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

I mean, you get 20 pounds, you go bigger.

[B]

Probably about 20. Maybe not quite, but close.

[C]

Come on, get a 50 pound bird.

[A]

Well, they don't make this.

[B]

They don't make it.

[A]

Yeah, I did see a 37 once, though. Have you ever bought a fresh turkey? Splurged?

[B]

We have. We had. There's a couple of farms near us that have them and do all the things.

[C]

Trey, how come uncle wild turkeys on the street? And I'm wondering why my dad can't just go pick one of those.

[A]

I don't think he can eat those. I think that's different. And Trey, how come Uncle Stephen doesn't have some turkeys? Why can't he get involved in that?

[B]

Because Auntie Mandy loves her turkeys and names every single one of them.

[A]

Oh, wait.

[B]

Or not. Turkeys, chickens.

[A]

Well, let's get a. Let's get. Let's get some turkeys working over there and we can. Wouldn't that be nice if a couple years from now you could go murder a turkey and then have it for Thanksgiving tray?

[C]

Auntie Manny would not be happy with that.

[A]

No. Wait, so they have a bunch of animals. They don't eat them?

[C]

Nope. They eat. They eat the eggs from the chicken. That's about it.

[A]

We joked about eating. We joked about eating Friday last night.

[C]

Who's Friday?

[A]

Arden's. Like, look, how is my daughter's puppy? Look how cute he is. I could just eat him. Don't you wish he was the turkey so we could have him this week? She was being sweet, but I was.

[B]

Just thinking, oh, yeah, I could just gobble him up kind of thing.

[A]

Yeah, that was that. But I was thinking like, oh, it would be nice to get rid of this Stu dog, but I don't think he would taste good at all. Try.

[B]

No, probably not.

[A]

Yeah. Trey, do you have a dog?

[C]

I have two dogs. Sometimes they eat my sister's clothes.

[A]

Yeah, I'd rather that at least. And I saw my dog outside the other day. I was like, what's he doing? Then I realized what he was doing made me upset.

[C]

What was he doing?

[A]

He was eating deer like it was candy.

[B]

Pepper doesn't eat it, but she does roll in it.

[A]

Oh, I don't know which I prefer those. Both of those things are terrible. Trey, real quick.

[B]

She's a white dog and she comes in brown sometimes.

[A]

Oh, Jesus. Trey, real quickly, be serious about this. Would you rather eat deer poop or roll in deer poop?

[C]

Rolling it. Because I could clean it off.

[A]

Even if it was on your face.

[C]

I could still clean it off. I can't get that taste out of my mouth.

[A]

It's the right answer, son. Good job.

[C]

And then my dog, one of our dogs, Louie, he's the younger of the two, he caught a squirrel the other day.

[A]

When you say caught it, do you mean murdered it?

[B]

Murdered it.

[C]

It was laying lifeless in the. In our. In our yard with its. With one of its legs missing.

[A]

Oh my God. Really? What kind of dog?

[C]

He's like a black lab chihuahua. He likes. He likes.

[A]

Wait, hold on. You almost made me curse. No, he's not. Is he really?

[B]

He is really. He looks like a miniature.

[A]

Wait, trade. Are you guys cursed at the house?

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah, because I was like, get the out here. You don't have a black lab Chihuahua, do you? Really?

[C]

Yes. Yes, we do.

[A]

Hold on a second. Black lab.

[C]

He's like a miniature black lab and he's a mama's boy, so you could.

[A]

Oh, wait. These are adorable dogs. Lou.

[C]

Louie will grab that pillow and start. You know what sharks do when they grab onto something they're eating? They like, shake their heads around and try to rip it off.

[A]

Sure. I saw Shark Week and that's what Louie does. Are these called labra hoohahs?

[B]

I don't know what to call him. We say that he's a little bit chu abadors.

[C]

Chu abadores?

[A]

You're just making these words up, as are the people on the Internet. But there's a lot of people making up names for these dogs on the Internet. I've got cha. Oh my God. Chahuahua. I've got labra. Huahua. What the hell's wrong with everybody? It's like, what a nice looking dog.

[C]

Chiuruadors.

[A]

It literally looks like a miniature black lab.

[B]

That's what he looks like?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Huh.

[C]

Well, he also screams at the sound of a nuclear bomb going off.

[A]

Wait a minute. You've heard a nuclear bomb go off?

[C]

He scream. He barks at people. And it is so unreasonably loud.

[A]

Okay, you misspoke. You said he. He He. Okay, I got it.

[C]

Screams louder than anything.

[A]

You were imagining a neutron bomb would make that same noise.

[C]

It would be quieter than Louie.

[A]

I hear what you're saying. Hey, you know what? Isn't it interesting, Trey, that we're okay with people taking dogs and mixing them together to make certain outcomes, but we don't do that with people. It's weird, right?

[C]

I don't think it's legal with people.

[A]

Legal? Well, you can't make people have babies. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying when people date, they don't often think, oh, me with that person Mixed will end up with a nice outcome. I don't think people think like that. You know what I mean?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I can't believe my kids aren't, like, a mess. I'm stunned, actually. I have really attractive kids. I don't even know how it happened. And I'm not just saying that because they're my kids. And don't go looking them up online, you weirdos. Just relax and believe me, okay? But my kids are really attractive, and it freaks me out because I was worried. I'm not gonna lie to you. Like, my wife's pretty, but, like, I. I thought I was gonna ruin that mix easy, you know what I mean? But it didn't work out like that, Trey. What do you know, buddy? All right, listen, I think we're done. I've enjoyed this.

[C]

I eat tin foil.

[A]

Whoa, now we're not done. What'd you just say? Do you swallow it?

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Trey, we're gonna have to have words later.

[A]

Hold on a second. Do you have low iron? Wait a minute. This could be a medical thing.

[C]

No, I just like it. It tastes good.

[A]

Okay, hold on a second. First of all, now you're gonna get stuck seeing a mental health counselor. I hope you're happy. You opened your mouth.

[B]

No.

[A]

What does it mean when a kid eats tin foil? Get ready for this, Trey. You're not gonna like this. There's a medical word for it. It's called pica.

[B]

It is? Pika.

[A]

Yeah. Toddlers. We're Nutrient. Nutrient nutrition deficiency. Iron or zinc. Sensory, behavioral reasons. Some kids like the crinkle, the shine, the feeling. It's more common in kids with autism, adhd, developmental delays or high stress, anxiety.

[C]

I think I have adhd. I probably do. I don't know.

[A]

Okay. Also, this is not good for you. It can choke you. Cut, make cuts in your mouth, block your GI system. It could get. You could get caught in your pooper. It could also be vomited. Back up. Cause belly pain, constipation. How often do you do this?

[C]

Not often.

[A]

When's the last time you did it?

[C]

Two weeks ago.

[A]

All right, well, now we know what you guys are going to be talking about when we say goodbye on the podcast, right? Awesome. Hey, is there anything else you want to admit to your mom while we're here? Seems like this thing is truth serum for you.

[B]

Here I thought he was going to talk about how he manages his diabetes on the field more, but, you know.

[A]

No.

[B]

Talk about aluminum foil instead.

[A]

No aluminum foil. And how bad your eggs are. That's pretty much what I got out of this one. Is it possible he's anemic?

[B]

I don't think so. What word?

[A]

Anemic. Like your iron is low in your blood.

[B]

You wouldn't.

[A]

Yeah. You wouldn't know what that is.

[C]

I have a friend with an iron deficiency.

[A]

Yeah, he might have one, too. That's a great play. Wow.

[B]

There isn't iron and aluminum, though.

[A]

Can I tell you something? No. No, but it doesn't matter. That's what it says here, that people who find themselves eating that have iron or zinc can have iron or zinc issues. I have to say something, Stephanie. And first of all, Trey, thank you for being honest. Your mom's gonna be very kind to you when we get done here, and she's gonna try to help you. Okay? But, Stephanie, I have to say, in 1700 episodes, that's going to stick with me as one of the more out of left field answers somebody's ever given me or things that have said, because I often say, like, I can't imagine. It always strikes me what people say, but only some things stick with me. And you know what they are because I repeat them over and over again. Like, one girl was diagnosed on a heroin bender. That really stuck with me. Like, there's like, yeah, like. And I maybe heard that you. I mean, it's years and years ago, I once asked a girl what her diet was like, and she said Jack and Coke, but she didn't mean the mixed drinks. And. And that stuck with me. And this is gonna. I feel like I'm gonna remember this. Trey, thank you. I appreciate. I appreciate your honesty today.

[B]

My children are memorable. Yes.

[A]

Oh, my God, Stephanie, this is awesome. Thank you for doing this with me right now.

[C]

Stephanie's like, runny eggs is the new podcast title.

[A]

Can I just ask him to delete this? That's what your mom's thinking right now. And. No, Stephanie can't. I'm sorry, it's too late.

[B]

That's okay.

[A]

You guys are awesome. Hold on one second for me, okay?

[B]

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