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- [00:01]
Scott
Hello friends, and welcome to the Juice Box Podcast. Another year down, Another year of helping each other through the highs, lows and everything in between. This is part two of a two part episode. Go look at the title. If you don't recognize it, you haven't heard part one yet. It's probably the episode right before this near podcast player.
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Chris
My name is Chris. I'm Emma's dad from episode 1600, into the Woods, and I'm here to sort of follow up and redeem myself for all the nasty things she said about me in that episode.
- [01:06]
Scott
If you're looking for community around type 1 diabetes, check out the Juicebox Podcast. Private Facebook group juice box podcast type 1 diabetes but everybody is welcome. Type 1, type 2 gestational loved ones it doesn't matter to me. If you're impacted by diabetes and you're looking for support, comfort or community, check out Juice Box podcast type 1 diabetes on Facebook. While you're listening, please remember that nothing you hear on the Juice Box Podcast should be considered advice, medical or otherwise. Always consult a physician before making any changes to your healthcare plan or becoming bold with insulin. Foreign. This episode of the Juice Box Podcast is sponsored by the Omnipod 5 and at my link omnipod.com juicebox you can get yourself a free what I just say? A free Omnipod 5 starter kit. Free. Get out of here. Go click on that link omnipod.com juicebox check it out. Terms and conditions apply. Eligibility may vary. Full terms and conditions can be found@ omnipod.com juicebox links in the show notes links@juiceboxpodcast.com Today's episode is also sponsored by the Dexcom G7, the same CGM that my daughter wears. Check it out now@dexcom.com Juicebox I saw somebody online the other day asking a question and they were clearly just trying to get other people's opinions, but they had gone to ChatGPT and had a a conversation about something about diabetes that they did, they didn't understand. And I browsed it really quickly and I thought, I think this thing gave her a rock solid answer and you know, she was able to ask follow up questions which I think is maybe where that separates you from Google a little bit. Like you ask the first question, you get an answer back and you might have more questions but it's hard to know then where to go from there. And then people came in and they were like, this seems reasonable to me. And people were interested in it too. So it's gotta be coming a little Bit, But I don't know how long till regular people who aren't, you know what I mean, digging into stuff like this, figure it out. Because if you're online, you think everybody's doing this, but that's certainly not the case. Yeah. How do you use it at work? Where the translator helps again?
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Chris
So where the translator helps. Like we're doing an effort with Japan, so, you know, we don't speak Japanese. So there was translators involved, like actual human translators today. And then they released this feature into Microsoft Teams and we all tried it out first by hopping in there and having it translate our voice in real time to Japanese, which none of us could understand. But then later they joined a meeting with the translator and it was pretty close. And the fascinating thing is it's faster than the actual translator because it takes the real translator a fair amount and the translator is going to, to change things, you know, when it, when. Because when you convert from one language to another, a lot of times it's not a direct word. For word translation, you have to, you have to assume emphasis or whatever. And you know that that's something that the human is adding and modifying where the AI will be more, more universal and more standardized in, in its approach and its responses.
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Scott
Yeah, I am, right now, while you're talking, I started the agent mode because my transcripts are behind a dropdown on each page. So you have to click on it to, to, to make the text appear. I put it in agent mode and I told it to go get the transcript for 1600. And I just, I'm watching it navigate the, the website by itself right now.
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Chris
Oh, that's so cool.
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Scott
Yeah, I'm trying to see. I don't know if it's going to figure. It knows that the, the click box is there. It's, it's, it's trying. The cursor's on the screen. It says it's doing it. If it hits that dropdown and then pulls out that transcript, I have to tell you, I see that as a. That's going to be a pretty big leap, you know. Oh, it just did it.
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Chris
It just hit the.
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Scott
It just, it just clicked.
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Chris
That's so cool.
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Scott
It just clicked the box. Clicking to expand the transcript. Yeah, it's going to copy that transcript out. And then I'm. And now, you know, imagine, obviously I can ask it, you know, what Emma talked about. I can ask it about like, you know, what were some of the biggest topics, but if she and I actually spoke about, you know, something technical, like it could pull it right out. Accessing transcripts and preparing to share it is just scrolling through the website by itself. The way OpenAI is trying to get people excited about it is if you have, like, an online shopping setup where you have your groceries delivered. As an example, like, this is an example in their video where they tried to explain how this might work. They had the guy go on and like, he's like, you know, I pulled up a recipe and he's like, you know, these recipes, like, they put so much stuff on the page, it's always hard to find. I was like, that's true. And then he just said, like, tell me the ingredients I need to feed eight people. And it told him. And then he looked at it and he's like, well, I need this and this, these two things. And he just said, order the beef and the chicken or something like that. And the agent just went through his browser, opened up his account, ordered the food, paid for it. It was insane. Oh, yeah, yeah.
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Chris
That's gonna make. That's gonna make things like my job so much easier. The things that I have to either delegate or do manually today to be able to just tell an agent, like, hey, go do that thing I. I had to do last week.
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Scott
And in real simple language, too, right? Not, you know, not specific. Well, now the transcript is over in the. In the window. It pulled the transcript out. Let's do something strange like, say, translate it to Korean.
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Chris
Korean.
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Scott
We'll do that. Okay. Y' all gotta find something to do with your time. I'm sure the government will give you food and money.
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Chris
Absolutely.
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Scott
You know, listen, I don't. This isn't gonna, you know, this isn't gonna stop my hairdresser from cutting my hair, but there is definitely gonna. I mean. Well, it's in Korean now. I can't speak Korean, but there it is.
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Chris
Yeah. I've got a couple of little topics that she wanted to make sure that I covered. She wrote me a note.
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Scott
Go to it. Start. Start up while it pulls out all the crap she said about you.
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Chris
So she wanted me to mention that she's no longer doing gymnastics and that she's transitioned almost full time to Jiu Jitsu, and that she's doing cross country. So she wanted me to give a little update on that. She's actually loving Jiu Jitsu, which I love, because it means that as she gets more involved with boys, that she's just going to be able to choke them out if they give her a hard time. Just awesome. From a dad's perspective.
- [07:41]
Scott
She told Scott that she loves gymnastics and believes she's way better than her dad at it. She joked that her dad tries to copy her routines, watches her closely, and thinks he's. This is in quotes, thinks he's so much better than me now. And Scott asks what she thinks in her head but doesn't say out loud. Emma replied, I think he's so bad that he will never get it. Oh.
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Chris
So the fact that it put it in quotes is awesome because I just listened to the episode within the last few days, and the way she says it is like, oh, he thinks he's so much better than me. It picked up that sentiment in there.
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Scott
Yeah, no, this is really cool. This is fascinating. It really is. I can't wait to pick around with it a little more and see. But my point was, is that, you know, if I jumped in too quickly with, you know, a year ago, it was, you're going to have to finance your own large language model and find a server to put it on, and you're going to pay tokens for people to use it. And it's going to cost you tens of thousands of dollars a year to offer this to people. And I thought, oh, I can't do that. And then more recently, a few months ago, I talked to somebody who's in the space and they said, oh, you know, in a couple of years, you'll be able to build your own model for a couple thousand dollars. It won't be as hard, like, blah, blah, blah, like, you know, on and on. And. And now today they're like, you know, they're like, hey, here's a browser. And I'm like, what's gonna happen in six months? When's it gonna look at my kid's blood sugar and go, hey, why don't you make the insulin sensitivity a little stronger?
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Chris
Have you seen the Will Smith video? Wait, Will Smith eating spaghetti?
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Scott
Not the catcher for the Dodgers?
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Chris
No, I haven't seen that one.
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Scott
Okay, well, Will Smith is the catcher for the Dodgers. Every time. Every time he popped up on television last week, Ardyn was like, that throws me off every time. No, wait, there's a video of Will Smith eating spaghetti.
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Chris
Yeah. The Artist Formerly Known as the Fresh Prince of Bel Air. There was early AI and I mean, what, two years ago? I think maybe when Sora first came out, there was a video. It was sort of a benchmark of this is what AI Video can do. And it was Will Smith eating spaghetti, but it kind of looked like Will Smith at the beginning and then turned into something that might have looked like Shrek. And then it just got really weird, you know, multiple fingers and then the fingers became the spaghetti. It was wild. Then there was a version 2 about a year later where it was better, but he still had too many fingers. And, you know, sometimes he'd move and his ear would stay and it was still a little funky. Spaghetti didn't really look like spaghetti. The one that just dropped last week looks like Will Smith eating spaghetti. And even has him say something like, damn, that is some good spaghetti. And it sounds just like Will Smith.
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Scott
Wow.
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Chris
So it just shows. In two years, this is what we've been able to do. It's really going to be something to see where it goes.
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Scott
Super excited about it. I also understand that we've all become more socially conscious, and I think that's great. I honestly think, genuinely think that's great. But I just think back to when I was younger and this stuff didn't exist. Like, you're what, you're probably 13 years younger than me, right? So. But I grew up in a world where none of this existed. And we'd sit around and dream about this stuff. Even if I told you that my mom used to sit around and say, one day they're going to come out with a pill and people aren't going to be fat anymore. As my mom's. Her words. And I'll be damned. I live long enough for that to happen. Right. I swear to you, I sat down on that stage yesterday and I saw myself in a monitor and I was like, God damn, I look like a person. Look at that. Like, it was really. I was excited, you know, Like, I was like, this is. This is awesome. Not. I wasn't embarrassed to be up there. I didn't have to kind of think about it. And I'll tell you, too, I don't know if this is right or wrong. I think it's wrong. But I think people took me more seriously because of it, too, because I've spoken in the past at things heavier and I don't know, you know, I just. People just don't take it as seriously for some reason.
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Chris
And I've same experience. Yep.
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Scott
Really, it's hard. Like, listen, that's terrible. People shouldn't do that. But I also don't think they were doing it consciously. Like, I don't think they were giving me more credit yesterday because I'm leaner than before. And I don't think they were consciously taking away from me. I just. I don't know, man. I just think it's how people's minds work sometimes, you know? Yeah. But with this technology stuff, I swear to you, I've told this story probably too many times in this podcast, but when I was a little kid, I saved up money. I went to Radio Shack and I bought a computer, and it took me two years to save up that money. And I brought that computer home and I had a book with me and I typed code for a day into that damn thing and hit execute. Nothing happened. And then I went back and went back through the book and back through the code. I found like three typos. Five, fix them. I was like, I did it. I hit execute and a stick figure did one jumping jack. And I took that computer, put it back in the box, and I returned it.
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Chris
Yep. See, I was the kid who took that computer and then said, okay, how can I make him do more than the jumping jack? And I just continued to expand it. I would take all those little pre canned games and I would modify them and.
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Scott
Yep, yeah, not me. I was like, this ain't ready for prime time. You know, the next one comes out. And honestly, what was the Commodore 64 was maybe the next leap there. And it really just played games, but at least it was games and it kept us into the computer a little bit. And then there was. They tried to do like a desktop thing where you could open drawers and put files in it. It was very visual and not very usable, but it still gave you the idea of like, oh, something's coming. I bought my first iPhone. I had no use for it. I literally thought, oh, this is a better way to keep my contacts at that time. Like, that's how it felt to buy it. But it also felt like possibility. People don't realize till if you took all the apps off your phone, it's a cell phone that text and like, you know, it's the apps that make your phone. Right. And so when it first came out, there were no apps. Getting the weather was a big deal on your phone. Right. But still, like, you sit there and think, like, what's coming? There's something. I can see where this is going now. A lot of it's pablum and crap and, you know, is not adding to your life at all. But in that phone somewhere is a great tool. This specifically when I see people struggling to get their basal right or to not even know that their basal insulin is their problem. They don't understand settings, they don't understand timing. They don't understand diabetes in general. They can suffer for weeks, months, years. And a lifetime. Sometimes you have no idea how quickly it can turn into hopelessness. And to say to something one day, hey, look, here's my settings, here's my graph. Like, you probably won't even have to tell it what's happening. You'll probably just show it your graph and your settings, and it's going to make suggestions that'll be better than you would be able to figure out on your own.
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Chris
Absolutely.
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Scott
I don't know if I'm not seeing people doing that already online, by the way.
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Chris
Yeah, right, Absolutely. There's no question about it, that that's where it's going to be insanely helpful is to consolidate all that information, make it really consumable.
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Scott
I don't tell you that it's going to be right all the time. But even that, even the. Was the rallying cry of people who hated ChatGPT a year ago. It hallucinates. Right. And now we're a year later, and I don't hear people saying that as much anymore. Yep. Right. Obviously, you want to hold the feet to the fire when people are doing stuff. You want stuff to be safe and effective and valuable. Right. And I appreciate the voices that yell, hey, it hallucinates. Don't use it right now. But I think sometimes those people then plant their flag there, and then it moves forward. Anything. It doesn't have to be this. And it gets a little better, but they still say, no, no, it hallucinates. I know not to. That's been decided already. I'm not going to look at it again. Man, this thing is changing so quickly. To make a static decision about it is foolish.
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Chris
Absolutely.
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Scott
Yeah. Because it's. It's coming hard. I can't wait to see what you guys can do with this for yourselves. Put me out of business, man. My podcast will just turn into, like, you know, it'll just be a community thing and probably won't talk much about management in the future, for if you're lucky, you know. And then can't they. They. I sound like my mom, My program's on. But can't they, whoever they is, think about like. Like, why not put like a tiny little specific part of this into your pump, right, that looks at your graph and looks at your insulin and looks at your outcomes and is making suggestions for you and me. And then you can change it if you want to, but, you know, then we'll see how long till that works so well that the thing can just be like, hey, here we go. Can you imagine if your pump asked you if Your phone. You had an app on your phone that controlled your insulin pump, and you told it like, look, I work Monday through Friday at a desk job, but I'm pretty active on the weekends, so keep that in mind when you're adjusting my insulin. And then Friday afternoon rolled around and your pump looked at you and said, hey, are you planning on playing pickleball tomorrow like usual or. No, because I'm going to make some adjustments if we're going to.
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Chris
Wow.
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Scott
Yeah. How would that be? Crazy?
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Chris
Be awesome?
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Scott
I don't see that as not being possible at all. And the one that I brought up from years ago, Three pizza places in your town, three different kinds of pizzas, three different kinds of outcomes. Why can't your pump remember geographically? Your phone knows where you are. When I'm at this location, and I tell you I'm having 45 grams, this is my insulin need. And when I'm that location, I tell you I'm having 45 carbs. That's my need. You don't. That. That doesn't sound reasonable to you? It sounds incredibly reasonable, too. I just watched my goddamn browser browse my own website and click on stuff.
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Chris
Yep. Yeah, yeah, we're almost there.
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Scott
Yeah. Put me out of business.
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Chris
I don't know, but it's the people. I mean, I'll be totally honest. I listen to very, very few of the management episodes these days. Once in a while, I get through the end of the episode, one rolls on, I'll listen to it. But for the most part, I'm here.
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Scott
For the people, the conversations. Yeah.
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Chris
Yeah.
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Scott
All right. Well, then I'm good. I get to keep my job.
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Chris
That's right. That's right.
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Scott
I was gonna have to pivot to motivational speaking if not. And I have to tell you, I don't want to be flying all over the place constant. It doesn't sound. I mean, although, may I tell you something, Chris? That's all we're doing is talking to each other, right? Yeah. Thinking about how we talked earlier about how different people react to things, and you were talking about, like, being, like, either super focused or, you know, whatnot and being overwhelmed. And what I clung to in that part of the conversation is like, coming from chaos and knowing how to deal with it. I was in a room yesterday, 600 people in the audience, you know, people on stage. It was a big production. There was a lot going on, and I really was looking around at everybody, and some people were wide eyed, you know, like, just being in the room with so many people made them Wide eyed. Some of the people that were going up on the stage look pensive. Some of them looked a little worried. You know, some of them look like you could see them talking through what they wanted to say in their head before they went up. Is really interesting. And I sat there like a lion in a cage. I was like, come on, let's go. And I did think for a minute, like, what is wrong with me? Why am I not like reasonably nervous or frightened to do this? Like, why? I'm just like, get to me. I, I'm good. Like, let's, let's do it. Let's tell stories. Let's try to get people thinking about ways to do better stuff for themselves. Like, like I sat in that chair, I was like, get me up there.
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Chris
Yeah.
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Scott
And I do wonder, as you were talking, it made me wonder. Like I grew up with chaos. Like, I wonder if I'm not like, like if that's not a comfortable place for me. Yep.
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Chris
You know, I think that's what we do. We find those, those things that do make us feel comfortable.
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Scott
Yeah. I could not have been more at ease.
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Chris
That's, that's amazing.
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Scott
Well, I don't know. I don't know. Like, I was worried for myself. Like it, it. Everyone else seemed to be having what I thought was a more normal reaction to, to the experience. And I was just like. Even when they were like, you know, we have this much time. Everyone says that whenever I go to something, they're like, you know, we, we have an hour. Can you fill it? I'm like an hour stop. I could sit up there all day if you wanted me to. I don't know if anybody be interested or not, but I'd be okay with it. It really is something. So. All right, what else did did your dear Emma want you to tell you? She's not doing gymnastics anymore. She rolling full time. The Dexcom G7 is sponsoring this episode of the Juice Box podcast and it features a lightning fast 30 minute warmup time that's right from the time you put on the Dexcom G7 till the time you're getting readings. 30 minutes. That's pretty great. It also has a 12 hour grace period so you can swap your sensor when it's convenient for you. All that on top of it being small, accurate, incredibly wearable and light. These things, in my opinion, make the Dexcom G7 a no brainer. The Dexcom G7 comes with way more than just this. Up to 10 people can follow you. You can use it with type 1, type 2, or gestational diabetes. It's covered by all sorts of insurances and this might be the best part. It might be the best part. Alerts and alarms that are customizable so that you can be alerted at the levels that make sense to you. Dexcom.com juicebox links in the show notes links@juiceboxpodcast.com to Dexcom and all the sponsors. When you use my links, you're supporting the production of the podcast and helping to keep it free and plentiful. Today's episode is brought to you by Omnipod. Did you know that the majority of Omnipod 5 users pay less than $30 per month at the pharmacy? That's less than $1 a day for tube free automated insulin delivery. And a third of Omnipod 5 users pay $0 per month. You heard that right. Zero. That's less than your daily coffee. For all of the benefits of tubeless, waterproof automated insulin delivery. My daughter has been wearing an Omnipod every day since she was 4 years old and she's about to be 21. My family relies on Omnipod and I think you'll love it and you can try it for free right now by requesting your free starter kit today at my link omnipod.com/juicebox Omnipod has been an advertiser for a decade, but even if they weren't, I would tell you proudly, my daughter wears an Omnipod omnipod.com/juicebox Terms and conditions apply. Eligibility may vary. Why don't you get yourself that free starter kit? Full terms and conditions can be found@ omnipod.com juicebox yep. Yep.
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Chris
She's rolling full time and she's in cross country, which is awesome. I mean, we, we've got to experience the having hot lunch and then running for six or seven miles. Oh, within an hour or two later. It's, it was, it was interesting adjusting her settings and everything when she first started cross country, but she's handled it so unbelievably well. She's received a medal. She's placed in every single meet this year. She has her big championship tomorrow.
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Scott
It's awesome. Hey, well, good luck to her. But what were the adjustments that were made?
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Chris
I mean, for the most part it was getting something in her system after lunch. Because what would happen, of course, is she would have a pretty heavy lunch and then she'd start, it would give her a bunch of insulin and she would start drifting down and Luke just couldn't catch it. She had a little bit Too much insulin on board, especially when she's running around like crazy. So we just started throwing a little protein snack, like an uncovered protein snack in there and a little bit of drop to the basil right after lunch. Okay, nice. We got her there. The last couple she's been Totally, totally. Oh, this one was actually good, though. She was doing her time travel thing, which is at the beginning of cross country, you run a mile and you time it. And then at the end of cross country, you do the same thing to see how much you've improved. And I'd been watching her graph and I'm like, oh, she's going to need something. So I'm like, I call her. She doesn't answer. I'm like, I'll call her again. And then about two minutes later, I get a text saying, I'm all set. And then she comes home and she's like, dad, I did it. I shaved a minute off my time. She ran a mile in 7 minutes and 48 seconds, which is insane at 10 years old.
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Scott
Goodness.
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Chris
And then she's like, oh, by the way, thanks for calling me right in the middle of it. I was like, really? I called you right in the middle of it? And she's like, yeah. But she's like, it's okay. I just, I shut it off and I grabbed my Smarties and, you know, I just kept going. And I'm like. So you ignored my call and treated it a low and shaved a minute off your mile? Yeah, like, that's how, that's mind blowing.
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Scott
How old is she now?
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Chris
She's, she's still 10. She'll be 11 in a month and a half.
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Scott
That's awesome. She's got your way about her. Does that make sense?
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Chris
Yeah, no, I know exactly what you mean.
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Scott
Yeah. Yeah. She's real chill and kind and she was funny and sarcastic and smart. Oh, it was a really great mix.
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Chris
I, I, I, I gotta be honest with you. When she, first of all, she told you that joke, I don't know if you remember it, the long one with the all the animals and the brick hitting the girl in the head.
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Scott
Yes. And the joke was that she made me listen to it. Am I right?
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Chris
Essentially right. Because you, you know, like, you missed the whole thing along the way. When she's between that and then when she gave the whole fake disease. Do you remember when she mentioned that?
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Scott
I remember she made up a disease that she had. Yeah. Strung me along.
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Chris
I literally, I fell to the floor laughing when I heard that. I'm like. And she, she Nailed it so effortlessly. Like when. When she said. When you responded and said that she was going to be on the podcast, I'm like, emma, you got to come up with something good. You know, I was just trying to make her be more comfortable.
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Scott
Sure.
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Chris
And I was like, come up with a good joke to tell. And she's like, what if I tell him that I have pneumonologia, microscopic silicovolcaniconiosis. And I was like, you're gonna be able to do that. And I said, you gotta do it. But at the end of it, you gotta really drop it. You gotta be like, oh, no, no, no. I'm just messing with you. And the way she just flawlessly dropped the F bomb right there. I'm like, how this kid needs to be a stand up comedian.
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Scott
I mean, well, she's really lovely. Now, if you raise her on this homestead in Maine, I don't know if she's gonna talk to enough people or not. Do you live on that property? Is it just a property you own?
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Chris
No, we. We live about an hour away. About a half an hour away. We live in. In Brewer, which actually, she mentioned that she lived on. On a river. We live in. We live right on the Penobscot river, which is the big river in Maine.
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Scott
Okay.
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Chris
So, yeah, we. We. But we live close to people, so we're kind of in the woods. Like, we've got a couple acres of property and like I said, woods and goes down to the river, and we have chickens, but we're also like 10 minutes from the airport.
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Scott
Wait, did you say the Penobscot River?
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Chris
Yeah, the penobscot River.
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Scott
What 70s TV character had that last name?
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Chris
Penobscott.
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Scott
Hold on a second. People are like, oh, great. Another reference. I don't know, it's Happy Days or. Oh, God, what's it gonna be? Laverne and Shirley? Mash.
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Chris
I can't help you. Damn it, Mash.
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Scott
Yes. Yes. Margaret marries a guy named Donald Penobscot. Wow.
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Chris
Oh, no way.
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Scott
There's got to be. Somebody had to have grown up near that river road on that TV show.
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Chris
Well, it. I mean, Penobscot is one of the. The Indian tribes here in Maine.
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Scott
Is it? I didn't realize. Okay, all right. Well, now we're learning stuff.
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Chris
Finally, the Penobscot Indians.
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Scott
Yeah, well, now we're learning stuff. People are like, I always learned something new. Now, you know that. I don't know what you're going to do with it, but God bless you. Good. What else you got on your list there.
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Chris
So things that I can. Oh, oh, oh. She mentioned that she had her crush coming over. You were asking her about boys and whatnot and she told you her sneaky plan to get her friend to break up with her crush and that way that she could slide in and have her chance. Well, I just want to say that that was successful. She waited her time, she didn't intervene and it all worked out. The crush is now her 10 year old boyfriend and he's a great kid.
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Scott
She's a home wrecker.
- [27:20]
Chris
She is. Well, but, but she, she's not because she waited her time. She didn't say anything until after they broke up and then, then she went in for her chance and no kidding, look at her. Yeah, she wanted. Yeah, she said I could share that. And then let's see. Oh, she mentioned, she mentioned Pea Pods, which was. It's a local like diabetes organization in the area.
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Scott
Okay.
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Chris
That's something that she does with, with a bunch of her friends and it's really cool around here. So her endocrinologist and the cd, they're all involved in it and they, they do like summer camp events. They. We had a Brett Michaels concert. Didn't know Bret Michaels had Type one.
- [27:56]
Scott
Oh, no kidding. You didn't know that?
- [27:59]
Chris
No, I had no idea. I not. I didn't even know he was the lead singer of Poison though. I like Poison. I had no idea. I don't follow. I didn't follow it that closely. But we went there and went to the concert and right up toward the front of the stage there was a group of us there that were from. It was like a Type one fundraiser and he saw her cgm, dragged her up on stage and had a whole thing about type 1 diabetes. And it was so awesome for all of those kids to see this totally normalized and to be able to rock out with all. It was fantastic. I just wanted to throw a shout out for the Pea Pods organization here in Maine. Absolutely fantastic.
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Scott
Yeah. Oh, that's lovely. Good for them. It's a local org.
- [28:42]
Chris
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [28:43]
Scott
That's nice people. See, there's plenty of people doing nice stuff.
- [28:47]
Chris
Absolutely.
- [28:48]
Scott
There's a few people aren't, but that's fine. We can overcome that maybe.
- [28:53]
Chris
For sure.
- [28:54]
Scott
How do you expect her to progress through this? Do you imagine there's going to be a time of rebellion or what do you think?
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Chris
Well, I don't know. I mean she, she does, she's really good at caring about, taking care of herself. She doesn't let it get her down very often. But I imagine there's definitely going to be times that she struggles, you know, sometimes like there's the food struggles where she'll, she'll really want something. She'll be like, oh, I'm so hungry. I want, you know, I want a donut. Let's go get some ice cream. And she'll look at her blood sugar and she'll be like, oh, it's too high, we can't do it. And so one of the things we work on a lot is like showing her like, we know how to use insulin and helping her get through that type of stuff. But I'm sure that at some point that that's something I think she'll probably struggle with, is like that balance of having to do this extra thing that most people don't have to deal with, which is hopefully as the technology goes, grows, that won't even be an issue.
- [29:48]
Scott
Yeah. You know, I talked to a gentleman recently talking about his college age son and he said the saddest thing. His son told him, dad, I'm here for a good time, not a long time. Oh, made me sad. Oh, yeah. It made him. I. He looked sad as well.
- [30:04]
Chris
Yeah.
- [30:04]
Scott
And I, he said, do you have anything to offer me? And I said, I, I would maybe try to get him to listen to the Small Sips episodes. I was like, they're really short. They're like, it's a packed. One thing, one idea should be short enough for a, you know, a teenager to listen to. And I was like, and you're probably paying for college, so. And just tell him if he wants to keep going to college. You could just listen to these real quick and see if, you know, you can take something from. Because how do you change someone's mindset who just thinks, I'm not going to live very long because of this?
- [30:33]
Chris
We know people somewhat close to us that are in that kind of boat where they just, they grow up in a different time with different technology and a different support structure. And that's their general attitude. I mean, even Emma sees it and she's like, that's really sad. She's like, because I'm going to live a normal life. And I love that she has that perspective of she knows, hey, if I take care of myself, hopefully it's going to just be something other than diabetes against me.
- [30:55]
Scott
I don't understand the not fighting to be here thing. Yeah, that, that to me is strange. I'm doing everything I can to, you know, stay here longer. That would seem like Job one to me, but I guess not for everybody. Or maybe there's a little. I don't know if there's depression. I don't know. The kid, obviously, if there's depression mixed in, or maybe just had a bad time and just doesn't see the way out. You know, there's been plenty of episodes. I don't even remember the episode number anymore. But this guy came on one time and talked about how he's great. I still. I keep in contact with him still, but he was looking for help online, and somebody pointed him to me, and we talked privately on the phone. And then, you know, things just started getting better for him. And, you know, he changed his life and, you know, back to school to do something else. He does something really kind for people now is, you know, is his profession. But, you know, he comes in the podcast a long time after we actually spoke privately and confided in me, I guess, in everybody listening, that he had had a plan to end his life. He was getting ready to enact a plan to end his life. It's not a thing he wanted to do. He just said he was hopeless about his diabetes and everything. I make the point that you just don't know what people are going through. So it's easy to say. The kid said, I'm here for a good time, not a long time. Is he joking? Does he feel that way? Is he scared? Is there something that's going on that the parents don't know about? Maybe there's something happening to him he's not even aware of, you know?
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Chris
Right.
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Scott
But try not to judge anybody. But I do still tell you that I, from my personal perspective, I can't understand not holding on with every last fingertip and searching, but I don't know, you know, people's minds all work different.
- [32:39]
Chris
I'm a deal for sure.
- [32:42]
Scott
Tell Emma I'm gonna try to keep this podcast going for a decade longer so that I can interview her when she's in college.
- [32:49]
Chris
She wanted me to make sure that. That she had an invite back again, even though you told her very clearly before. She had a great time. So, yeah, keep. Keep doing it.
- [32:57]
Scott
Let's wait until she starts to become a lady and stops talking to you as much. And then, like, right in there when she gets super sure of herself but has no actual content to back up her ideas, that's when I'd like to talk to her next. And then in college after that.
- [33:13]
Chris
Fantastic. Absolutely.
- [33:16]
Scott
There's a couple of people who come on at intervals in their life And I think it's super interesting to visit back with them sometimes and see where they've gotten to and what's happened. Actually, this girl that was on one of the After Darks, she was an exotic dancer. I'd like to have her back on, too.
- [33:34]
Chris
Oh, yeah, I've heard that one.
- [33:35]
Scott
She'll hear this. Anyway, am I leaving anything out? How am I doing?
- [33:40]
Chris
Awesome. A couple other things that I wanted to mention is that you guys talked a little bit about the books I have in my toilet. One of them, she said a bunch of them are yours, but of course, one of them is yours. And I just wanted to say that I love that book for real. That book, in my mind, helped me set the stage for how I am as a dad. It's given me a lot of great ideas. And the story you tell in there about you and Cole heading to Obama's inauguration. Oh, man, that is. I recall that story all the time. I just wanted to say thank. Yeah, thank you a ton for writing that book and talking about it on the podcast, because really, is. I keep it there on my toilet because, you know, that's actually probably when I read the most.
- [34:21]
Scott
Don't sit too long. They say it's not good.
- [34:22]
Chris
Oh, yeah, no, that's. That's true.
- [34:24]
Scott
Well, it's only sit down when you have to go. Okay.
- [34:27]
Chris
It's a short book, big font, so I get through it pretty quickly.
- [34:30]
Scott
There's no deep thoughts in there that. That needed extra words. But firstly, that's lovely of you to say, and I. That. That you said that genuinely, and you're reminding me of something that happened to me yesterday up on that stage when I finally got up there. So for the biggest game that I talk and I'm not, certainly, I'm not overblowing it. I really was sitting there, like, let me up there. I know I'm good at this. Like, let me get going. Once I get up there and they start laying out my, you know, I don't know what you would even call it. Like, you know, describing, you know, the podcast and things that it's done and people it's reached and everything, I get very. The humility hits me really quickly. Like, I don't know if it's because I. You know, the way I grew up, if I don't feel like I belong in that situation. Like, I. I. You know, I don't. I don't have a therapist to tell me what it is, but I'm guessing it's one of these things. Right? But you Know, they introduced me, and then they asked me to tell, you know, talk about how I got to this spot. Like, you know, like, what's the pathway that this whole thing took? And I got all done, and the. One of the gentlemen that was interviewing me said, you know, like, he looked out in the audience. He goes, scott is. Is being very, very humble right now. And I thought, no, I'm not. Like, I'm not. I. I am not doing that. I'm not up there, like, consciously trying to be like, oh, no, no, no, no. Like, you know what I mean? Like, or trying to come off as. I wasn't trying to come off as humble. I wasn't trying to give them a feeling that I was something that I'm not. I know what this podcast does. Right. I see what happens in the community. I'm really grateful that it worked out that way. I don't feel like I can take credit for it. Like, I just think I'm being myself and this sort of happened.
- [36:11]
Chris
And they call that imposter syndrome, right?
- [36:13]
Scott
I guess so. Right?
- [36:14]
Chris
Yeah.
- [36:14]
Scott
Yeah. Or. But, I mean, is that important? Really? Like, do I. Is it important for me for you to say that and then I tell you, oh, yeah, I did. That's what I did. I did that on purpose. Like, you know what I mean? I wrote that book like that so you'd have that feeling. Like, I. By the way, I did. But I don't feel that way. Right. If that makes any sense. And I know it doesn't like it to hear you say. Respond, I'm sorry.
- [36:39]
Chris
No, I was just going to say, like, I get you, and I feel the same way. Like, in. In what I do for a career. Like, many days, I don't believe, like, that I do something and I get congratulated for what I did or thanked for it. I'm just like, I was either just doing my job, or sometime I'm like, I don't even. I don't believe I even really did that. Like, how did I do that? I kind of. I think I relate to a similar feeling.
- [37:00]
Scott
Yeah. It's funny because in my heart, like, I'm fully capable of giving myself credit. Like, it's in front of other people where I don't want that. Yeah. Here's the other side of it. And I have a podcast, so I have to talk. Right. So everything is happening right now. If you're being helped by the Facebook group or the thing I'm trying in the circle group or this podcast or something else that I've done I want you to know I did it all very intentionally and on purpose. I didn't have a plan when I started, but I am really good at seeing where the road is going and running up ahead. And in any time I've done something that's been a failure or not worked out, I just pivot, I stay flexible, and I go, okay, that didn't work, or it didn't resonate with them or whatnot. Like, I still think the Grand Round series is awesome, and it doesn't get listened to as much as it should. You know, it's not what a mass of people want downloaded well, but it didn't download the way I think it should. Then I pivoted off to something else. I said, okay, if they don't want that information this way, I'll find another way to get it to them. I'm making a compilation now, and I've been at this for two years, compiling people's struggles. Right? I'm right now in the middle of just imagining how to conversate around their struggles that will be most valuable back to them. Like, do I break them down into mental health management, you know, other ideas, and then find a partner to talk about each one of those things with and deliver them back like that? It. Would it be better if I mixed it into conversation and just hope that they found it? And I'm going to figure out what the best way to go is. But what I figured out was, is it between talking to people and then watching them online and then outright asking them, I was able to build a comprehensive list of things that people with type 1 diabetes struggle with. And once you have that list, there's a way to help them with it. Now I got to find a way to deliver it in a way that they'll receive better than they receive the grand rounds, maybe even the grand rounds. Maybe it was just the name. Like, I don't even know. Like, maybe people don't know what that means or. Or care. Or maybe it seemed overly medical before they dove in. Like, I don't know. But that series, it's a how to for doctors and a what to ask for for patients. It's for both people. And I think it's really valuable. And I've heard back from people that it's valuable. It just didn't catch on the way it should have. The small sips scared me, too. Like, everybody's like, people need shorter form content. I was like, all right. We put a ton of effort into distilling the pro tips and the bold Beginning series into the small sip series. And I don't see people sharing it the way I expected them to. So maybe they are, and I can't see it. I don't know. But, like, I'm constantly, like, working towards that on purpose. But I. But if you sat down in front of a group, like, I can say it to you because you can consciously forget for a second that other people are going to hear it. But if you put me in front of those 600 people again and told me to say this, I'd be like, I'm just doing my best. Like, that's how it would come out, you know? Yeah.
- [39:56]
Chris
I mean, it's been great to see where you started and where you've taken it. It's awesome. I hope you keep making it for however many more years, because it's. I'll definitely keep listening. And it's. It's been very valuable to us and lots of people that we know. I mean, I share it as much as possible. Some people just don't like podcasts.
- [40:13]
Scott
Yeah. But by the way, they think they don't.
- [40:16]
Chris
Yeah. Yeah, you're right.
- [40:17]
Scott
I hear two things. Right. I hear my brain doesn't work that way. And I would tell you, I get it, but just listen passively and you'll pick things up you don't even realize. But that's a hard thing to explain to people. I did pass an entire psychology class in high school by sleeping through it. I must have heard something while I was asleep. That's a great story. I feel like I've told it before, but I got the best score on the final, and I slept through that class every day.
- [40:42]
Chris
That's amazing.
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Scott
And now I look back and think, it's possible I was anemic then, too, and I didn't realize it, but nevertheless, I think, listen passively. Don't put yourself. I think some people's brains tell them that they're supposed to sit down, listen, and know a thing when it's over. And I just don't think that that needs to be the way. So just listen in the background. You'll pick stuff up. Eventually it'll start making sense. I teach myself. I'm looking at this little tiny lizard I have over here in this little tiny cage. Okay. And I know you're like, oh, is chameleons. No, there's a couple others. It's called a Sri Lankan pygmy lizard. There's a pair of them in there. Not many people breed them. And as a matter of fact, I believe they're on a CITES list now. You can't get them out of Sri Lanka anymore. So the ones that are here, the ones that are, they breed. So I don't have any desire to be in the reptile breeding business, I guess. Unless you guys want my Sri Lankan pygmy lizards, then hit me up, I guess, and I'll. I'll ship it to you. It would be easier than driving them back to the breeder, which is what I do, is I take them back to the guy that made mine and I'm like, look, you know, I know you're going to sell these and make some money, but right on, like, just take them, you know, I just want them to go out and have other people, you know, enjoy them and hopefully maybe there'll be more of them one day. But there's. The guy's got like a 20 minute care video about them. So I listen to it once and then I don't know what I'm doing. And I listen to it twice and I don't know what I'm doing. I listen to it three times. I don't know what I'm doing. If you ask me right now to give you the parameters for keeping this thing, I don't know that I could rattle them back to you, but I am taking great care of them. And I know that sounds strange, but I think that diabetes can be like that to some degree. Just hear stuff over and over and over again and maybe just in the moment you'll do the right thing.
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Chris
Absolutely.
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Scott
If that sounds hocus pocusy to people, I would understand. But I think that's real. And I think I've interviewed enough people who've said things like, I listen to the podcast, I'm not really good with numbers, but I'm doing really well. And they don't know why, or people have said, like, I already knew how to do all this. But listening to the podcast keeps me background focused without being front brain focused. I don't know how to explain all of it. I just see it works.
- [42:52]
Chris
So that's actually a really good point. So I have an engineering background, even though, as Emma would say, I'm terrible at math and I'm a big college dropout. The way you broke it down helped me so much because I was so focused on. I remember the first time that I'm like, I gave 1.4 units last time and it worked out perfect and I gave it today and it didn't work.
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Scott
And.
- [43:12]
Chris
Or, you know, this plate of food is supposed to Be this much like I was so tied to rules that hearing the like, you know, I just look at it and I'm like, it's a unit or it's four units. Like just that sort of swag, that loose way of doing it that mixed with my wife is much more that way of just like laid back when it comes to the stuff. Like, let's just try it and see how it works. Yeah, that's so powerful for me. Like that, that helped me so much to be able to just not have to adhere to the rules that, you know, computers and everything else have to adhere to. There's just be flexible and, and figure it out as you go.
- [43:51]
Scott
Isn't it funny that's the first time somebody's used the word swag. More like swagger. And it made a lot of sense to me when you said it that way.
- [43:58]
Chris
Oh, swag is scientific wild ass guess in the IT community.
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Scott
I know it is. Yeah, actually, but that's not my point. My point is that like that's how it's always used. And that one time when you said it, I thought it was more like I imagined myself being like, yeah, I don't know, it's like about this much. And that almost felt like swagger. And I thought, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's interesting. Really, to me, I don't know if it's interesting anybody else listening.
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Chris
Yeah, well, as you grow that, that's kind of what it becomes, right? Like you almost have like a swagger of like, oh, yeah. It's just this much. Just do this. I mean, that's the relationship we have with it now is just sort of like we look at it and we're like, I don't know, it's somewhere around that. I mean, obviously a well tuned algorithm helps with that a significant amount. But yeah, that's kind of how we approach it.
- [44:44]
Scott
A lot of people are going to. You know, I was having this conversation yesterday with somebody kind of off to the side and I was like, you know, you can't raise a person on this technology and then make it hard for them to get to it. Sometimes, like you either give it to them and they can always have it or it's not always available. But like, there are people coming up in diabetes right now and the extent of their understanding of diabetes is that I put that thing on and that thing on and the thing does the thing and I'm okay. Right, right. And so going back almost full circle to your, you know, your care team telling you it needs to be a Year. I think that's what they're talking about. We want people to understand it. You know, sticks and stones, nuts and bolts, in case it all, like, you know, reverts back that way. I just don't think it's actually going to revert back that way. But you could lose your insurance. You could. I guess that's how it could end up reverting back. And then you're not going to know what to do. I do think it's possible to teach people what to do when they have the tools. But then maybe you run into a human limitation where they're going to say, I don't really need to know this now because the thing does the thing. So there's a lot of arguments. I find myself somewhere between worried, like, Jenny is. Jenny's. Like, I'm afraid that people aren't going to understand what they're doing and hopeful about the technology the way I am. Like, I'm trying to draw myself more to the center on that. And I've been doing. I've been working on that for a couple of years, actually. Not to just like, say, no, the thing works. Like, it'll be great. Because, I mean, look at me. You saw me with the GitHub. I don't know what I'm doing with that.
- [46:12]
Chris
And it works.
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Scott
Yeah, but it works so good. And if I really get stuck, you know, I'm lucky enough to be able to reach out to find people who do understand it and. But that's not a real answer because if all those people disappear, what am I supposed to do all of a sudden? You know what I mean? I won't know what to do now. Could I figure it out? This, to me, is the last step of that. I think I could. Could everybody? I don't think that's the case. I don't think I'm special. But I think you're dealing with all levels of financial support, emotional support, intellectual backing. Like, there's a lot of different kinds of people. So I don't know. I don't think there's an answer. Answer. I just think these are things that we have to keep in mind while we're trying to help people and while they're trying to help themselves.
- [46:55]
Chris
Definitely. Okay, so one. One last.
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Scott
Yeah, what do you got?
- [46:59]
Chris
So Emma called me a big college dropout.
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Scott
Must have been lovely to hear.
- [47:04]
Chris
It was. It was. It was absolutely fantastic. And which. Which I am. And I boasted.
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Scott
I.
- [47:09]
Chris
And not only did I drop out from college once, but I dropped out from college three different Times, So it's really drives the point home, but didn't slow me down. Whatever. So. And then she called me skinny and weak. I think you would ask something about, like, is your dad a big, strong guy? Because he's out in the woods. And she's like, no, he's actually really skinny and weak. So I just had to give my rebuttal. So what I have to say to Emma is that, Emma, I'm very, very proud of you. You're an amazing young, young lady, and I am so excited to see what you're going to do as you move forward. And I'll save the actual ribbing and whatnot for the next time we fight.
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Scott
Very nice. You're lovely. You're a good dad, man.
- [47:51]
Chris
Thanks. I really appreciate it, and so are you. I've been hearing your stories forever, and they definitely influenced my. My dad decisions on a daily basis.
- [47:58]
Scott
I can't tell you how much that means to me. It really does. Good. I'll try to break through the feeling for a second one more time and tell you that I've never been able to kind of quantify it more than to say that things occur to me when crisis comes up, when there's problems, when there's something to get accomplished. More often than not, the thing that I think to do works out. I don't know another way to put that, because I can't take credit for any of it. I don't think things through the way you imagine thinking things through. I just look at things and something pops into my head. And more often than not, that thing works. And even as a younger person, people would come to me for all kinds of advice. And I never understood why. I genuinely never understood why. I was not a. I didn't have money. I didn't have any kind of position in the world, anything at all. And yet people around me would always ask what I thought about stuff, and they'd come back and say, hey, that really worked out for me. I remember one time my wife was managing a movie theater, and there were kids working there that were like 16, 18. And we were probably in our early 20s. And this kid was like, I'm always spending all of my money. He's like, these ATM machines were a little newer back then. He's like, I'm always going to the ATM machine and getting out a couple of bucks, and I'm spending it. Before I know all my money, he's going, do you have any advice about that? No advice. Well, I didn't have any money. I didn't know anything about anything. And I said, yeah, only take out $20 when you go to the ATM. And he's like, wait, your advice is to spend more money? I said, no, my advice is when you go to the ATM, only take out a 20. Never take out less than 20. Because this wasn't a kid who had a ton of money and $20 was a big chunk of it, you know? A couple months later, he comes back to me. He goes, hey, I've been saving money. I'm doing great. I was like, oh, yeah? I said, how's it going? Like, what'd you do? And he goes, I just did that thing where, you know, I only take out a 20. And I was like, oh, cool. And I just walked. I was like, that's great. Like, I don't really know what to do after that. I was like, right on, man. I'm like, go clean up the popcorn. You know, to, like, relationship stuff and, like, everything in between. Like, I don't know. Like, when something goes wrong, I seem to know what to do. And it translated into parenthood for me somehow. And then as I try to be reflective about it, the only thing I can kind of come up with is that it just all seems like common sense stuff to me. I don't really feel like it's anything special. I read the Meditations from Marcus Aurelius recently. It just seems like common sense to me. But, you know, a long time ago or, you know, you read a collection. There's this collection of Ben Franklin quotes that he wrote under a pen name, and read them. I think they're called poor rich. It's like poor Richard's Almanac.
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Chris
I've read those.
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Scott
Yeah, it's common sense 100%. Yeah, it is. Now, I don't know why some people have it and some people don't. That I couldn't begin to explain to you. But it's not some deep secret. Like I said to somebody yesterday, they said, well, how come so many people have good outcomes after listening to the podcast? Like, what are you telling them that other people aren't telling? I'm like, nothing special.
- [50:56]
Chris
It feels that way, right? Like, it feels like common sense. I feel the same way. Like, I. I don't know how I do most of what I do, but I'm also a person that people often come to for advice. And I'm always confused, like, why me? But like you said, most of the things I've done, like, they just kind of seem to work out. And actually, on that common sense topic, One of the other books on my toilet is Robert. I think it's Robert Fulgham. It's everything I needed to know I learned in kindergarten, which is common sense. The whole thing is literally him talking about how like all the difficult things in life, it's just use common sense. Yeah, but most people common sense isn't common as it seems.
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Scott
Yeah, I guess that's a saying for a reason. But I would wonder why. Yeah, everyone has the intellect and the brain power to run those their basic ideas. Right. You don't even have to remember them. You just have to have a decision making tree that lends that leads you to that spot. Right. Like this is happening. What do I do? How do I do it? Spending the least amount of effort, the least amount of time, the least amount of money. That's probably the best way to get through it. If that's not, then why not? Like what did removing time out of it is that maybe I should have thought about it longer. Is taking money out of it. It would have been easier with better materials. Like, but that doesn't happen in front of me. Right. Like in front of my eyes. I don't see the decision tree. I don't hear the words. I just, I get to the end and that's the answer. And. And if it's not right, then you reapply it and it seems to work the next time.
- [52:20]
Chris
Yeah.
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Scott
It is almost like watching that chatgpt go through the. The website. Like I don't know exactly what it was doing, but it was taking the steps that it should have and it got to the end and it did the thing it said it was going to do and I couldn't figure out what it was doing. And maybe that's how it feels to people when they listen to you or me sometimes or why that dumb book I wrote seems so important to you.
- [52:41]
Chris
That dumb book you wrote, Chris, you have no idea.
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Scott
I was approached by a publisher to write a diabetes book and I immediately said I should not be writing a diabetes book. That's ridiculous. I was like, I talk about it and I give people like, this is what I think and they tell me what they think. And it's conversational. It's meant to build a community and for people to draw out of it what they want. I'm like, I don't know how to sit down A to B and tell you how to do it. You don't want me. But I wanted to write a book. So I said I could write a book about being a stay at Home, Dad. I said, I think that would be really interesting. I've thought about that before. And they said, yeah, sure, get us an outline. And I got off the phone, called my wife. I was like, hey, this is what they want. And she's like, are you going to do it? I said, yeah, I think so. And then I just turned to my computer and I sat down and I just. Every one of those chapters is a thing that I wrote down in five seconds. I just was like, this is important to know. This is important to know. This, this, this, this, this. I don't know if I put like 15 or 20 ideas together. And then I've said this before on the podcast, but I was done 10 minutes after I got off the phone with him and I sat on it, like for the rest of the week, through the weekend, because I wanted to think. I was really thinking about it. And then I just sent it off and they said, this looks good. You know, we'll give you half the money up front and the other half when you're done. And I was like, okay. And then I just sat down and wrote out how I felt about being a parent. That's pretty much it. I don't think I'm a particularly good writer. If it reads even half decent, I'm grateful.
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Chris
Yeah, it does. I listen to a fair amount of books. Not a whole lot of similar topic books to that, but I mean, it reads, I think, similar to the way that your podcast listens. I mean, you well spoken and the ideas are thought out.
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Scott
It's.
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Chris
I thought it was excellent.
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Scott
Thank you.
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Chris
I've shared it with non, you know, other people that I know, other dads, and I've had similar feedback where they're like, wow, this is. I've had people actually listen to a few episodes of the podcast with no context about type 1 diabetes. Some of your podcast episodes are great and they're really not all that much about diabetes. They're just about life.
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Scott
I told somebody the other day, I don't think I make a diabetes podcast. I think I make a podcast where I only talk to people who are affected by diabetes.
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Chris
Yeah, that's a great way to put it. And I'd agree.
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Scott
We came out of that session yesterday and there was a lot of people lined up to say hi. And one lady just came up to me and she said, you were so well spoken. That was such a pleasure to listen to. And I thought, no, I'm not. I am not well spoken. And then you just use the same words. I don't know how to think about that. I think I speak like you're watching Pulp Fiction. I think you're here and then you're in the future, and then you're in the past and then you're in your future, and then somehow at the end, it all ties together.
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Chris
Yeah.
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Scott
Yeah. But is that. That's good though? Like, I mean, it works for you. Yeah. It seems wrong to me. It seems wrong.
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Chris
Like you said, you're not. You're not planning it. You're not trying to do this. It just is who you are.
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Scott
Yeah.
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Chris
You're just, I guess, being your genuine self, which is, I think, why, why it works so well for you. Because you're not trying to be something you're not.
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Scott
I'm gonna. I'm gonna do something that I think a therapist would tell me is good. And I'm gonna say thank you and I appreciate that. And I'm taking it in and I'm gonna tell you I agree with you. So there. I'm gonna. I'm gonna take the compliment. Good. Awesome. All right, hold on one second for me, man. This is a real pleasure, by the way. You get a two parter out of that because we chatted so long. Congratulations.
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Chris
Awesome. Well, thank you for, for talking to me and, and to Emma. It's. It's been excellent.
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Scott
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