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Welcome back, friends, to another episode of the Juice Box Podcast. In every episode of Bolus 4, Jenny Smith and I are going to take a few minutes to talk through how to bolus for a single item of food. Jenny and I are going to follow a little bit of a roadmap called Meal Bolt. Measure the meal, evaluate yourself, add the base units, layer a correction, build the bolus shape, offset the timing, look at the CGM tweak for next time. Having said that, these episodes are going to be very conversational and not incredibly technical. We want you to hear how we think about it, but we also would like you to know that this is kind of the pathway we're considering while we're talking about it. So while you might not hear us say every letter of Meal Bolt in every episode, we we will be thinking about it while we're talking. If you want to learn more, go to juiceboxpodcast.com Meal Bolt but for now, we'll find out how to bolus for today's subject. While you're listening, please remember that nothing you hear on the Juice Box Podcast should be considered advice, medical or otherwise. Always consult a physician before making any changes to your healthcare plan or or becoming bold with insulin. This episode is sponsored by ABLE now. Tax Advantaged Savings Accounts for eligible individuals with disabilities. If you or your child lives with diabetes, you may qualify for an ABLE account because of ongoing medical needs, and many people in the diabetes community do. With ABLE now, you can save for future expenses without affecting eligibility for certain disability benefits such as Medicaid. Learn more and check your eligibility@ablenow.com you spell that a B L E N O W dot com. All right. Jenny, do you know the song let's All Go to the Lobby?
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No.
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No, it's like this. It used to play in front of like drive in movies. It's like. Like dancing. Popcorn and candy would come out and be like, let's all go to the lobby. Let's all go.
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I've never. I've never heard that song.
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I'm sorry. Okay, well, you should go to. I don't know. Are they driving movie theaters anymore? Are there movie theaters?
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There are. There's actually one that's not too far from us. I have not been to a drive in in a long time. They are. They're super fun. I think the last. What's the movie with Cameron Diaz and what about Mary?
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Something about Mary.
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There's something about Mary that's the last
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thing you saw a drive in.
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The last thing I saw at a
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drive in reference to a movie nobody listening even knows about. When Kelly and I were first married, we would go to the drive in on. During the summer, almost every Friday night, she'd come home, get off the train. We would drive right to the theater, sit in the back of our. We had an suv. We sit in the back of it and watch movies. But I bring that up because I've been asked to talk about how to bolus for popcorn.
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Oh.
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But I wanted to expand that a little bit. So I do want to talk about Popcor first, but then maybe we'll talk a little bit at the end about how to blend it together if you're at the movies and having it with other stuff.
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Okay.
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All right. There are a number of different kinds of popcorn. Because I said to people, like, what do you like? When they said popcorn to me, I just assumed they meant movie theater popcorn. But then people were like, well, what about, like, the kind you make at home? And what about, like the Jiffy Pop and what about popcorn in a bag? And I was like, all right, well, I'll. Jenny and I will look into it and try to figure out if there's a big difference. But let's start with the most difficult one, which I have to believe is movie theater popcorn. Right.
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I would expect. So. Honestly, I. It's kind of funny because I was going to say, but we're not going to bolus for Jenny's popcorn. We're clearly bolusing for something. A charter.
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What does your popcorn taste like? Air?
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No, my popcorns I usually use, I have a Whirley Pop. It's like you put it on your stovetop and it's. You put in like a little bit of oil and then you put your kernels in and the top closes and it's got a little crank on the side. And so you crank it and the thing in the bottom spins the kernels and then it pops. And it's awesome. Like, I've had it for a very. I'm not gonna say how long, but for a very long time. And it is the thing when. When my boys have their friends over, they're always like, Mrs. Smith, will you make popcorn? Like, they want my popcorn.
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So I used to have that thing, but I kept burning it on the bottom because. So now I just make pot.
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And you just shake.
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I've used coconut oil and then popcorn give it a little shake. Pops out every time. It's perfect.
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Yep. I usually put nutritional. Yeast kind of has, like a cheesy flavor. So I'll use Nutritional yeast. And I'll use a little bit of. A little bit of sea salt. And then flavorings. I usually let my boys pick out whatever flavoring. Sometimes they like dill, sometimes they like it spicy, sometimes they just want salt.
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So Arn's a fan of like some fake cheese powder that we put over top of it. You know, it's so funny.
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There you go.
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We talk all the time while we're making these bolas four episodes about, like, what do people understand about the impacts of their food? And I'm trying to look up movie theater popcorn nutrition right now, and I see a Reddit thread that says, will movie theater popcorn popcorn seriously hinder my weight loss journey? Yeah, it will.
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How often is this person eating popcorn?
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I mean, that's first of all a valuable question, but I'm looking here. A large tub size, 600 to 1200 calories, 27 to 48 grams of fat. Saturated fat, 19 to 34 grams, often from coconut oil. Total carbs, 41 to 148 grams. And the sodium, 1500 milligrams.
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B
Yeah, yeah.
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Like, yeah, it's. It's going to hinder your weight loss journey for sure. Right.
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And I'm assuming the difference in calorie there is very likely relative to whether you add the. This isn't butter, but we call it butter sauce on the top.
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Yes. Yeah, yeah. I'm gonna go to is Regal Cinemas throughout the country.
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The AMC is usually throughout the country too.
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Regal popcorn, nutritional estimate, refillable, large tub, which is approximately 20 cups with butter. But we all know it's not actually butter. It's called buttery flavored topping. 1200 plus calories. That's a day's worth of calories.
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That's a lot of calories.
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Yeah. 60 to 66 grams. Total fat, 126 grams carbohydrate between 100 and 126. So. So let's say we're just going to the movies and we're just having a popcorn.
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Okay.
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Okay. How do you. Do you pre bolus for it? Do you. I tell Arden to pre bolus while we're in line getting the tickets.
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Usually, yes, pre bolus would be valuable. And then, you know, you bring up, gosh, I'm looking up the nutrition facts. Right. Well, let's say you're not going to look up nutrition facts. What is one of the bigger hitters with popcorn? It's carbohydrate. Right. A good estimate is that a handful of popcorn is about 5 grams of carb per Handful.
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Okay.
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So if you aren't going to look any nutrition facts up, and really all you're going to do is initially cover carbohydrates, you could say. Okay, that large bucket is 20. Right. So 20 handfuls is about 20 cups at about 5 grams per handful.
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Okay, 20 cups of 5 grams per handful. 100. 100. Okay.
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If that's the large tub you said was 20.
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Right. And then that's not you squirting the grease on top of it.
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Correct. That's just the popcorn. However, they made it in the kettle with the fat already there.
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Yeah. Whatever that stuff is, I guarantee that's not butter either. I bet you there's not butter in a movie theater is what I'm trying to say.
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Yeah.
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So I've got my. My estimator up. So with an insulin to card ratio of 10 and insulin sensitivity of 50 and targeting 90, 100 carbs, no consideration for fat is 10 units. Oh, my gosh. You're gonna boast that much for. For. I don't. Oh, my God. I'm sorry. I know that's not how these are supposed. That shocked me. Now I know how people feel when they're like, that seems like a lot of insulin. That's crazy. Is that okay if I put the fat into it and just like. I don't know. If you just like. I don't know, say the fat's 50.
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Mm.
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Oh, my gosh.
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Then it's a lot. And you're using your calculator, right?
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Yeah, I'm using my calculator. Telling me that would be 10 units up front. You need a pre bolus saying at least of like nine minutes and then a Warsaw wave that could last up to eight hours of another four and a half units of insulin. As I told you earlier, Able now is sponsoring this episode. Able now, of course, tax advantaged ABLE accounts for eligible individuals with disabilities. If you or your child lives with diabetes, you may qualify for an ABLE account because of ongoing medical needs. Many people in the diabetes community do. With ablenow, you can save for future expenses without affecting eligibility for certain disability benefits such as Medicaid. And thanks to updates to federal law, Able accounts are now available to more people than ever before. That means more individuals and families can use Able now to save and invest funds in. An ablenow account can be used for a wide range of everyday needs, including education, transportation, healthcare, assistive technology and more. There's no enrollment fee, and you can open an ablenow account with a small initial contribution and build from there. Learn more and check your eligibility@ablenow.com that's ablenow.com a b l e n o w dot com.
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Yes. Now, the other consideration here, too is what do you know about how your body processes this load at a time that's also a large amount of fat? My initial recommendation for a meal, I'm gonna call it a meal because quite honestly, the calorie content of this is like several meals, but. Right. So my consideration is there's a lot of fat. Yes. It's Carby. 10 units is a large amount of insulin to bolus at a time for a food that has a fair amount of fat in. So you may even potentially use this as a tool to say, okay, 10 units. But, gosh, I'm in a pre bolus. Let's say, you know, your pre bolus is usually 15 or 20 minutes. You're going to apply that. My consideration would be maybe bolus for only 70% of this upfront.
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Okay.
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With the other 30%, if you have a pump that allows extended boluses or you have a pump that allows a slower drip over a certain amount of time, et cetera, you might even do that over the initial hour, possibly with the consideration then as the bowl is for. For protein and fat comes in that extra 4ish units when you finish the popcorn.
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Yeah.
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That's likely when you would push that in.
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I'm glad you said that because I was about to say, like, I don't think I would do that.
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No.
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Yeah. I don't think I would just throw in 10 units and be like, popcorn time. Like, it's. Because also, I mean, that's a lot of popcorn. Like, you could get halfway through it and think, I ain't eating this anymore.
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Correct.
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I know you're in the theater and you're trying to sit and have an immersive experience, but I think a movie theater visit is get ahead, stay ahead, keep bolusing. If you keep eating, like, that's sort of my. My theory. Plus, if you have a sugary candy that you're missing with mixing with this, then suddenly I don't mind being even more ahead because then you can almost eat to the drop.
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Yeah.
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If you're gonna snack on sugary candy too. But it's a lot about good.
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Oh, no. I was gonna say another trick is that right, you're going to a movie theater probably with other people, and maybe you're there with a parent, and the parent is like, sure, I'll buy the large tub, but we're all going to share It. And there are three of you all dipping your hands into the one large bucket. Will that. Great. That's a hundred grams of carb. But you're not the only one eating it. And so what makes it a little bit easier to count up? And as you're saying, bolus. As you consume, ask the theater for a small container that's empty.
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Yeah.
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Fill up your child or your container. You know, that small container is. How many handfuls did you put in? Maybe it's three handfuls, three cups. Right. That's 15 grams of carb. Ebolas for the 15. Oh, I'm going to go back for more. Great. Fill it, because then you really have a little bit more ability to navigate. Okay, I'm going to bolus for more now. I'm in a bolus for more now.
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So maybe movie theaters aren't such an issue, because, I mean, the food's not. It's not great food, but, like, it's not so much about the food. It's more about the. You don't really know how much you're eating because of the snacking and the passing and all that other stuff.
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Right.
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If you can just kind of hold it aside, I'll tell you, when Arden was little, she would go. She'd get a Slurpee at a movie. And I have to tell you, it was kind of great because you just throw in a bunch of insulin up front and then just modulate it backwards with the Slurpee, like, oh, you're getting slow. Take another sip of the Slurpee. And then you'd leave the theater without, like, a high blood sugar. Because I'm telling you right now, you could leave a theater with a 350, no problem if you throw in not enough food. And that's snacking. So do you think that when people say they struggle with popcorn, do you think it's more about, like, that part? Because I'm looking at smart food as an example. It's smart food popcorn. I know. You can get that anywhere.
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Yep.
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13 carbs for two and a half cups. 11 servings. So that means that if you grabbed a bag of smart food popcorn and just did it in, you'd be 140 or so, like, carbs. And that is the idea. Right. It's about this. I'm making a back and forth with
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my hair, and you're bringing up the point that I was going to say is, what is popcorn? It's a snackable. Right. It's not usually something that you're going to sit down and really consciously pay attention. Unlike sitting down to a steak dinner with broccoli. Right. You're enjoying it, you're chewing it, you're probably having conversation, but still really paying attention in a slow manner. When we're talking about a movie theater and popcorn, one, we're in a dark environment. Our brain is entirely focused on the movie or the previews that we're watching. There's no conscious accounting of how many handfuls you're stuffing in your face because you're not paying attention. So that's why that. At least start with a known amount. That small empty cup, dip it in, take your portion, bolus for it, and then acknowledge if you can pay enough attention. Right.
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Kettle corn is actually less impactful than movie theater popcorn. It's got much less fat in it. If you.
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Oh, it's more sugar, but it's less.
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But sodium's lower. That's interesting because it's more. So the. The. The popcorn is a delivery system.
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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For whatever else is. Is Chinese, like, yeah, duh. What's that? What's the one? Cracker Jacks, right?
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Oh, Cracker Jacks.
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I don't like them because they put peanuts in.
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I never like them either.
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Why would you put peanuts in food? Ridiculous.
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And I was always. I remember as a kid, like, they always came with that silly little dumb prize in the box.
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It was never a good prize.
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It was never good. I was always disappointed, like, and I never even ate that. Like, I shook the whole box out just to get the dumb prize. And I was like, two pieces of Cracker Jacks and I got a dumb prize. I'm done.
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They didn't learn from McDonald's. McDonald's knew to put, like, a decent toy in there, right? Yeah. Cracker Jacks. Well, I'll tell you, you got to give it to Amazon. They do a good job with the nutrition labels. Cracker Jacks. Total carbs 23 per serving. Servings about a half a cup. Sugars 14 grams, 2 grams of fat. It's. It's a lot of. It's a lot of sugar on popcorn.
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Right?
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So I've never looked up food labels on so many different popcorns before in my life. Like, popcorn doesn't seem like it should be difficult to bolus for.
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It's pretty carb.
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It's the delivery system, isn't it? It's how you're eating it, not what you're eating. Right in the same.
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You brought up what, Smart pop. There's also skinny pop. I'm trying to think of the lesser evil is one as well.
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Is that actually called lesser evil?
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It's lesser evil. It's usually made with avocado or coconut oil instead of like all the processed, refined types of oils.
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Yeah.
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Thus lesser evil.
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Skinny pop, total carbs, 9 grams. For this bag? Yeah. This small, like. Yeah. Grabbable bag. No sugar, More fat than you would think. Six grams of fat. Sodium is pretty low at 50. Yeah. Okay. Lesser evil popcorn.
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Yeah, it's a name brand of popcorn.
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Nice. Okay, but let's go back to the movies for a second.
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Yes.
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Now we've got our popcorn. Let's hope we've measured it out. I don't know. We have some aside. But now we're going to get candy too. So you said you have one candy. You were telling me before we started. What is it?
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So the funny thing is that when my husband and I first started dating, movies were definitely a thing that we did right. And his go to always without knowledge. Too much about, like, my diabetes. Like, he knew I had diabetes, but, like, not really what was good or not as focused. Not as focused. His had always been Raisinets.
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Okay.
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And Junior Mints.
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Oh, Junior Mint's nice.
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So both of those are. And you know, again, I could really care less about them, but I did know in terms of my management that I absolutely had to use, you know, a fair amount of insulin because it's really just sugar.
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Was a young Jenny Smith on a date. Did you feel like, oh, I should grab a couple mints out of here so I don't seem weird?
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Oh, no, no. I was willing to share a couple, but I've never, like a sweet eater. I've never been. Give me the whole bag. That's why, like, gummy bears don't do like, I can't.
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You hit a number. I can't do anymore.
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One gummy bear and I'm good. Even if it's for a low. I'll eat the whole thing if I absolutely needed to. But like, like, it's a sugar overload to me. So something like, I'll have one or two. Knowing he was totally gonna eat that.
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Take care of the rest of them. By the way, not to make you feel top return on Google is do Junior Mints still exist?
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I've seen them at the.
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They do, by the way.
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But that's just like I've seen them at the grocery.
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There's no reason to make old people feel like that. Junior mints, 26 carbs for 12 pieces. So over a little about two grams a piece. About two a piece. And so that's the next thing. So now I have. I should get a piece of paper for a second.
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So now we're adding candy on top of. Thank you for using my candy, by the way.
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Oh, of course. Please.
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You know, one of my favorite things about Junior Mints was. This is kind of weird, but, like, I didn't need many and I could enjoy them because I liked the shape and how it felt when it melted in my mouth. Like, it's. It's a little dome, and it's got a little divot in the bottom of it.
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I know you can feel the divot with your tongue.
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Like you can feel it and, like, it just melted lovely in my mouth.
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I prefer a slightly stale ginger mint. I like it when it's a little stiff. I also like gummy bears better when they're stale. And peeps. Oh, when do you know what peeps are?
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Yeah.
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Peeps come into the house. I take a knife, I slice it open, and I let them sit for a day or two. And then I eat them, and they're almost hard and gummy, and I don't know why.
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And you like them?
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I like them that way. But hold on. How many? So let's say, I don't know. What's reasonable handfuls of popcorn? 10.
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I'd say at least 10 handfuls. I mean, think about how easy it is to mindlessly.
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Yeah.
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Grab handful after hand. I would say 10 is a reasonable number of handfuls to expect somebody would eat.
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Weird question. Do you put the popcorn in your mouth or throw it in your mouth?
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Oh, I, I, I put it in my mouth. I. It drives me crazy. People were like. Like, they shove it and then it's falling like it drives me crazy. Like, just put it nicely in your mouth and chew.
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At my funeral, I believe Kelly will stand up and go, that son of a bitch threw popcorn in his mouth at a movie theater. I am like. Like, I bounce it, get it into a kind of. And I just toss it in.
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That's funny.
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I'm also not putting, like, a. I'm not shoving it across my face while I'm doing it. It's not. I'm not on Fear Factor trying to get a scorpion pie down or something like that, which should tell you what I watched on TV last night. It's just as a little. A little, like, toss.
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It's like a little game.
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Oh, she hates it.
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She's funny.
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It's like, just put the popcor. I'm like, I don't know. Why? I do it like this. So 10 cups, 5 carbs a piece. That's what you said, right? So we get 50 from that.
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Yes.
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And that's carbs. I'm gonna take the 12 pieces. It feels silly. Like, isn't it funny it feels silly saying Junior Mints 12 pieces, but okay, 26 carbs, because no one eats that way. And then I want to go back to the fat for the movie theater popcorn. Okay, so 20 cups with butter is about 60 or 60. Listen, I also. This is the Internet. I'm not sure about this. I don't know. I don't even know where you'd figure this out because you're drizzling the butter on yourself afterwards. So I don't know how many are gonna.
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Which is why I'm expecting. It's an estimate of what they've.
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Yeah, there's a big range estimate here.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So I would take the middle.
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The middle's 60. Yeah, that's right. Okay. All right, let's see. Fat. And then it's gonna be something else. You want a Twizzler?
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B
How much fat is there without drizzling the extra yellow syrup on?
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It's not that easy. Hold on. Popcorn nutrition. Regal Theaters. God, is this the. I mean, trust me. They can barely get people to come to the movies. They're not putting great information online for this.
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I'd expect a large. Has to already have 25 or so grams.
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I'm gonna try to find the nutrition facts just for the butter. Oh, I don't know if I can do that. Yeah. Oh, wait. Movie theater butter. No, that's Orville Redenbacher.
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That's the. Pop it in your microwave.
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There's a food data website. Movie theater popcorn. Movie theater with added butter. I mean, if we take this at its word, I guess a kid size. Order 84 grams. Do one cup. One cup. Yeah. 4.4 carbs. It's saying. It's saying 8.2 fat for a cup. See, if you took that number, then we're at 80 for 10 cup. For. For 10 cups.
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True.
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You know, so, I mean, I think the answer here is, good luck getting a good nutritional count on movie theater popcorn with your butter on it. But, like, just think of it as either 5 grams of carbs per cup, and if there's butter on it and you're a person counting fat, count some fat.
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Right.
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And if not, don't act surprised 90 minutes later when your blood sugar's 250 and it won't move no matter what you do, that's pretty much. And by the way, if you're going to add the Junior Mints, good luck just being 250, because then you're gonna basically, you're gonna take the popcorn carbs, you're gonna stretch the digestion out with the buttery flavored topping, and then you're gonna supercharge the whole thing with a rocket made out of Junior Mints.
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Correct.
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That's where the high comes from at the, at the movie theater.
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And if you're like a friend of mine, she put Raisinets in the popcorn and then took handfuls of both of them at the same time to eat together. So there, there's something else that's I
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like a Milk Dud, I want to say at the theater. Oh, yeah. I used to like the cookie dough bites before they ruined them. They started making them, but they had a little egg in them. I guess people got sick. A bunch of lightweights. I could handle it. And then they changed it to make it safer for you, and now they're not good anymore. So that's what you get with your safety. You nerf the world. Now cookie dough bites suck. Good for you.
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So sorry.
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I really didn't care. I was just like, I just won't get those ever again. I'm a more of a like, mix my popcorn with pretzel bites kind of person.
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B
Oh.
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Now that I'm an adult. But at the same point, like, even they suck. You know what I mean? You don't know, Jenny, but let me tell you something. You pay $1,000 for seven pretzel bites. By the time you get to your seat, they're cold already and they're hard and they're.
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B
They're probably really like stiff. Right.
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A
It's like going to McDonald's if you don't eat it piping hot like 10 minutes later. Like, what is, what am I putting in my mouth? Exactly. You know what I mean? At least the popcorn. The popcorn is the popcorn. I do want to try to find buttery flavored popcorn topping. I just want one ton. Oh, okay.
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B
Did you find it?
- [21:48]
A
Oh, it comes in jugs that would horrify you. Hold on a second. This one's made by Amish country popcorn. Buttery topping, I have to say, are
- [21:56]
B
these like Costco sized tubs?
- [21:58]
A
I mean, it's. It's 128 fluid ounces a gallon. I'm going to just say earlier when I said about the cheesy flavored popcorn, we use the Amish country cheesy Flavored popcorn is the one we actually use.
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B
Oh, the flavoring that I'm so embarrassed of. That's so funny.
- [22:13]
A
Lovely company in Indiana. I'm sure they're doing good work out there. There is no nutrition label on this. Yeah. Oh, wait, no, there is. God bless the world. All right. No carbs, no cholesterol. No cholesterol. 14 grams of fat per serving. They.
- [22:29]
B
Which. There's no cholesterol, which means that this does not have butter in it.
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A
Yes. Well, that's why they call it buttery flavored topping. But I'm going to flip you out right now. There is 14 grams of fat in a serving. What's the serving size? Because everybody just heard that and thought, oh, in a cup of it, there's 14 grams of fat. But no, Jenny, there's 14 grams of fat.
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B
Tablespoon.
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A
In a tablespoon of it? Yeah, in a tablespoon of it. So when you're standing over at that machine and you're going, and you're spinning your popcorn and jostling it up and down, it probably would be safer to run out in front of a car. So. So anyway, if you're wondering why movie theater popcorn is hitting you like this, this is the conversation right here. Let's tie this one up with just making popcorn with coconut oil.
- [23:21]
B
Okay.
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A
Like, so I would tell you just from a personal experience, I don't really. Arden boluses for it. Pretty much just like a carb. Like she.
- [23:29]
B
That's all I do.
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A
Yeah, yeah.
- [23:30]
B
I bolus for it as if it's a carbohydrate. I give it a pre bolus and I eat my popcorn.
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A
Yeah, that's it. You're not really doing more or less than that. So.
- [23:39]
B
No.
- [23:39]
A
So in a nutshell, in a raisin nutshell, if you. When people asked about popcorn. Popcorn. Popcorn. Popcorn is, in your opinion, it's more about what's on top of it.
- [23:50]
B
Yes.
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A
And that could be topping, like buttery flavor topping at the theater. It could be, you know, sugar in the form of kettle corn. It could be anything like that. But it's. The impact probably comes more from either not understanding the fat content if you're at the theater and probably the mix of something else in there and. Or the kind of chaotic way that you take it in over time.
- [24:09]
B
Correct. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I mean, I've had random people who've said, you know, I have popcorn, like the skinny pop or the smart pop or whatever, and have said, you know, I feel like I also get a little blip up in blood sugar later on from it digestively. We are all a little bit different. I can say my n of 1 is that that doesn't happen to me. Yeah, Ebolas, I cover it. I don't end up having anything else happen after that. I have to cover sometimes in this.
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A
Yeah, the Skinny Pop did have more fat in it than something else, but it's probably trying to make up for the flavor of not having whatever it is they did to cut the carbs down on it.
- [24:39]
B
Right?
- [24:39]
A
Yeah, yeah. God, what did they do to it to cut the carbs down on it? I can't anyway. I love popcorn. I don't like. I don't like getting the kernel stuck in my teeth afterwards, but don't forget to get those out. Do you get like a sore? Like if your gum gets sore and you realize like two days later there's a popcorn kernel in there, it's very upsetting.
- [24:54]
B
It is upsetting. Or that it's like worked its way out and you can finally feel it along the side of your tooth and you're like, that wasn't there before.
- [25:00]
A
There's like something. You're like, what is that?
- [25:01]
B
I ate this 3 days ago thing
- [25:03]
A
where you go like, oh, I had popcorn the other night while we were watching a movie. Is that what this is?
- [25:06]
B
Uhhuh. Yes.
- [25:07]
A
Do you feel like we covered this pretty well?
- [25:08]
B
No, that was. It's a great one to bring up.
- [25:09]
A
Yeah. Okay, cool. All right, well, I appreciate it. I'll talk you later.
- [25:11]
B
Cool.
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A
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