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Foreign. Hello and welcome to Juicy Crimes. I'm your host, Heather McDonald. If you are new here, welcome. You might know me from Juicy Scoop, which drops every Tuesday and Thursdays. Juicy Crimes drops every Wednesdays with new episodes and I really appreciate it. It also has its own YouTube channel, so please go over there. If you're on there, subscribe, like share, leave a review on Apple or wherever you can spread the word of Juicy Crimes. It is a good one and I work very hard at it and I hope that you enjoy it. Okay, so for the first Juicy Crimes of the year, I just had so much to cover and so much I want to talk to you about. I'm going to give you a few crimes, some updates. Let's get into it first. First of all, the number one show right now on Netflix is a two hour movie documentary called Evil Influencer the Jody Hildebrandt Story. Now, we have covered this story and it is an extreme disturbing story of child abuse. But it also involves another one of our favorite topics, life coaching and podcasting and grifting and cults and that and YouTubing, like and YouTubing. So this story was just so shocking. Many years ago, a cute young mom, blonde, living in Utah. Her name's Ruby, her husband's Kevin. They had six kids and they started a YouTube channel like a lot of people did in around, I think they started it like 20, 16, 18 something is where they reached their popularity. And it was called eight Passengers because they're a family of eight. And the kids ranged. You know, there were boys and girls like all within like 10 years of each other. And the one boy, Chad, was very attractive. So they put a lot him into a lot of videos because little girls started to watch it and enjoyed seeing his antics and his blonde hair. And he's very cute. And it became very popular. She had millions of followers. This is how they made their money. But there were other people that were watching it that got concerned in some of the videos that she was putting out that these children were not being treated well. One was she got angry at Chad and in talking to him and she put this video up. He's like, yeah. And then you took my bed away and I've been sleeping on a beanbag for two months. And she goes, I don't think anyone's supposed to know that. And people, you know, started to respond and make their own videos. And actually there were over 18,000 people that signed a petition to their sponsors saying like, this isn't okay. How this woman is not only exploiting her children, but we don't believe that she's treating them right. Another one was she got in her car doing one of those mom car confessions where she said, well, I just got a call from the school about my daughter that she didn't go with a lunch that day and could I drop off a lunch for her? And I said, nope, she knows she's supposed to make her own lunch and she didn't make it, and she can just go hungry. And that is how I'm gonna do it. So in this particular, there's been several documentaries and, you know, specials on Ruby Frank that this one really focused on Jody. And Jody Hildebrandt was this woman who also was part of a Mormon lds. She went on the missionaries, and she was very good at getting people to become baptized and join the church. And at the time that she was a missionary, there were very few women doing it. And then she got married, got divorced, and started this. She was a psychiatrist or psychologist. She was a psychologist. And so she started her own practice, which. Then when she met Jody. Sorry, then when Jody met Ruby, I think she. Her light bulbs kind of, you know, lit off because she was like, if I include her, maybe we could do something together and I could get all those millions of followers. She has such a huge following. And at the time, she really presented herself as a way for people that might be in the Mormon faith, women to have a voice and speak about their sexuality and talk about how maybe their marriage isn't satisfying to them and, you know, sexually and everything else, or feeling obligated to have sex with their husband. So it really kind of clicked, and she got a lot of men to participate. And one of the biggest things was that she basically said, any man that looks at porn even once a month is addicted. And therefore, she would say to these men, you are addicted to porn, and you are never going to be the best husband you can be if you still are watching porn or whatever, because that was, like, very against the church. And so they're, you know, it's. It's a kind of religion that's really a lot of guilt, a lot of, you know, saving yourself from marriage and lustful is bad and all of this. So she was able to gather a lot of clients that would pay just like you would for any other therapist, you know, a couple hundred dollars a session. What was weird is that she would also not only counsel the couples, she would counsel maybe individually the wife, and then she would also counsel the kids, which I don't know if that's against being, you know, a. In the family. Marriage practice, you know, counseling, whatever their standards is. It's just not. Oh, it's not what you do. You know, I know that even when my friend was seeing a therapist, she was like, you know, even if you wanted to me my. To hire my therapist, she would never allow it because she knows we're friends. And in me talking about my life, I've already spoken about you, so. Which also isn't a great sign, but whatever. So I'm just saying you're not supposed to do that is what. You're not supposed to do that. So this is what she did. And really what it was is she really infiltrated her life into these marriages. And one of the things that she would convince these people of is if you want to get your marriage back together, you have to separate. You need to move out, you need to separate. And she would say to the men, and. And you need to separate for a year. And that means you don't talk to your wife or see your child. So this one guy missed like his daughter's first birthday because he was so desperate to stick with his marriage. They were paying this woman, some of them more than their mortgage per month, and she just got in their heads. And, you know, coming from a church also, which I sort of spoke about with the Cult of Mary Crosby, when someone watches some of these documentaries and they haven't been raised in any kind of church culture, it must just seem insane that you could be like sucked into this kind of belief and give your power to this one person. But this happened and she's just comes off like, so well spoken and so knowledgeable, and she's kind of like creating her own language, sort of like a Scientology and using this words like it's. It's not what you really think. It's distortion and, and lies. And you need to have humility. And by having humility, you need to leave the family home, sir. Have some humility. And, and don't talk to your wife and child for a year if you ever expect to get them back. And somehow these guys would just believe it. Well, that is what happened with Ruby, Frankie and her husband Kevin. They went to start to see her. It was called Connections. And at one point she boasted that she was one of the top five podcasts in 2020. Now, I don't know if that was just for her category. I don't know if it was May one episode broke the top five, Nobody knows. But she had a big following. She was making a lot of money. She was doing the courses, the life courses, the podcasts, all of that as long, along with private counseling. So Ruby is spending more and more time with her. Kevin, her husband, also believes what she's saying is true. And he's like, I just want to make this marriage work. Which is so interesting, because in all my studies of this, I'm like, I don't even think that their marriage was in a bad place. Before she met Jody, it seemed like they worked really well together. He had a regular job. But then they were doing really well with all these videos. I do think it's wrong that they exploited the kids. I do think she was leaning towards, like, a really weird, strict situation with her kids that was quite cruel. Like, there was another video where she says to her little daughter that didn't do something. Little daughter had, like, a stuffed doll, and she cut off its head, like, in front of her and shared that video and posted it. It was very disturbing. So once they lost a lot of sponsors as this cute family vlogger, because people were watching it and were disturbed by it, is when then she started a podcast with Jody. Jody and Ruby started podcast called, like, Moms for Truth or something. They're sitting on the couch, and Jody had a very beautiful home, a $5 million home out in this sprawling area, beautiful setting of Utah, like, the desert part of Utah. And so all of these homes were, like, probably on a couple acres each. So they were quite far apart from each other. And they were, you know, very nice, big homes. Like, I think her home might have been 13,000 square feet or something, very large. So she's divorced. She doesn't talk to her adult kids anymore, which makes a lot of sense. And in this splitting of the family to save it, Ruby, Kevin leaves the house, and the two older kids, Chad and Sherry. Sherry's in college. Chad's like, I think, in college, doing his own thing. And Kevin leaves the house, and it's his understanding that Ruby is there with their four other kids, raising them, and he's doing what he's told and having no contact with him. One day, a neighbor of Jody Hildebrandt gets a doorbell ring by a very young, skinny boy who says. And we see the ring camera, you know, on this doc and many other documentaries. And it's like, maybe a couple, like, in their late 50s or early 60s, and they're. And he's like, what can I do for you, buddy? You know? And he's like, oh, I would just like you to do one favor for me. Two Favors for me, actually, just one. Can you take me to the police station? And that's when he and his wife, the owners, see that this boy is very thin and he has like Saran Wrap on his hands and ankles, his wrists and ankles that look like weird wounds. Very thick, weird wounds. And he says, was there anything else you want me to do? No, just. Just call the police. That's all. I need to go to the police station. We find out later that the abuse was so bad, mentally and physically, that he was told every day that he was horrible and bad and that he needs, he will go to jail for what he's doing. So he really was going to that house to say, take me to jail because I'm a bad kid, not take me to jail so I can tell on my abusers, which is my mother and Jody. Now cut back. Before Ruby and Jody started to live together in this other house, which the dad knew nothing about, Kevin, there was a time when Jody moved into their house, moved into the Frankie home. And she was saying that she was seeing ghosts and spirits and everything. And so Ruby said to her husband, can you sleep in another room? I need to sleep with Jody to calm her down when she has night terrors. And Kevin was like, okay. So in watching this, everyone's like, is this guy like the dumbest, weirdest guy? But I don't know. He was sucked into this belief too. And I think he was also completely in love with his wife and just was just wanted to do anything to save this marriage. So in other documentaries and things and articles and everything that I've read, and Sherry wrote a book to the older daughter, it is believed they had more than a friendship, that it became a lesbian lover relationships between Ruby, Frankie the mom, and Jody the therapist. So at some point, Ruby leaves her home, leaves her two kids that are like teenage middle aged school, and brings the two younger, which is a boy who was 11 and a girl who was 9, to go live with Jody in that 5 million dollar house. And she took those two kids because she was convinced by Jody that they were evil, that not only did they have like evil dynamic spirits, but they were just bad kids, really bad kids. So Jody was like, I'm here to fix these kids for, for you. And the abuse that is unveiled in this doc is just so cruel. They would make the boy jump on a small round trampoline for hours in the sun. And all this abuse that happened, the reason it was such a slam dunk case, besides the child's testimony and his and their Actual wounds and whatnot is there was physical evidence of this in the house. But also they, the police and detectives found diaries that Jody wrote where she'd write out the date, everything that she was doing to these children. And it was, oh, the demon child. The older demon child tried to get in the shade after jumping on the trampoline for hours and hours in the summer. So as I saw him in the shade, I took a cactus and poked him. And at one point, he did run away. And when she got him back is when they rope. Put ropes around his hands and feet and hog tied him. And then from those rope burns, he had a lot of, you know, skin torn off or whatnot. And then they made a cayenne pepper, like, honey thing and put that on it. Then they put Saran wrap and then put duct tape on it. That's what he was wearing. When he finally escaped and went to the neighbor's house, they were both very emaciated. Which is kind of interesting because when the detective brought in Kevin, the husband, he's like, why am I here at the police department? He's like, well, it's about your. Your two younger kids. He's like, what about them? When was last time you saw or talked to them? A year. Why? Because Jody, our therapist, told me if I wanted to save my marriage, I just had to, like, not see those kids or. And have any contact with them or my wife for a year. Why? What's the problem? It is shocking when they're telling him, I truly believe. I believe that he followed these rules and had no idea. Also shocking that a father would agree to not have any contact with his children for a year, no matter what. It's very strange. So when he. When the detective tells him, we found them and they were. He had wounds on his hands and ankles and he was emaciated. And he goes, what does that mean? And I'm like, how do you not. I mean, that word is not a super difficult word. But he was really shocked to hear. Well, that means that both he and your younger daughter were not getting enough food or water. They were taking the basic necessities away from them. You know, they're super thin. And so he was just shocked. After they got the boy, they went back to the house. And, you know, I love seeing that body cam footage from the police officers. And they're so wonderful, and it's very upsetting. You know, I don't know how these officers and social workers and stuff can continue their life when they have to see some of these Horrific things, especially when their parents. Anybody, anybody. It's just horrible to see a child abused like this. They found the little girl. She was. She didn't seem to be overly have any wounds or anything, but she was extremely skinny, and she was just alone in a dark closet and very scared to talk to anybody. And so, you know, again, it was this theory that these kids were not only defiant and bad and evil, trying to ruin Judy, Jody, and Ruby's life, but also, like, you know, again, that belief that, like, they're being taken over by demons. So much like Lori Vallow daybell. That is the story of the very attractive blonde woman who is in prison and had multiple cases about multiple deaths. But the two that made the headlines first were her two kids that went missing, and they were, in fact, killed by. She and her husband. At the time, they believed that they were demons, and so they killed them. And it just absolutely, you know, horrible. But it was that same thing. They, too, had the. The podcast and the life coaching and the religious spiritual endeavors, and just really horrible. So this. The husband, Kevin, was just like, what? What do you mean they haven't been eating well? Where are my other two kids? So they find the other two kids at Ruby's home, not the one she was then sharing with Jody. And they were okay because they were taking care of themselves, but it looked like they were packing to take off. They then found in the one time that he had said, I did try to run off once, the little boy. And Jody found me. She wrote about that in the diary, and she said, you know, we caught him. So now this is no longer working out. She had already gone ahead and bought a big area of land in the Arizona desert with, like, she was gonna make them work. She was gonna make them do, like, hard labor and live out there. Like, they weren't. They weren't even gonna live in a home. These two little kids, they're gonna, like, live and work with her plan. And she's like, they have no idea what's coming to them once we move to Arizona. And it's just crazy that Ruby would allow this and participate in it. And so Ruby gets arrested as well, and she's just not speaking. But at one point, Kevin goes, I love my wife, Ruby. And they have a taped phone call between them, and he's like, what's going on? I mean, the kids, they said they have to be in the hospital for three days just to, like, recover, get nourishment. And Ruby's like, oh, my God, that is just such an over exaggeration. Like, Jody is wonderful. Like, she's doing all this to help us, and she's just being persecuted, you know, and then Judy kind of took it. Jody kind of took it as like, yeah, I'm being persecuted for something I didn't do, like Jesus Christ or whatever. And I talk to God every day, and I know what I'm doing is fine. And this is just, like, so unfair. These kids. Like, what are they saying? Kevin is not even, like, angry with her. I mean, do you imagine if you found out that your spouse was actively starving your kids and tormenting them physically and mentally for months and months and months? This was a long period of time. This wasn't a weekend. This was months and months that they had been living at the Jody house. They also had a safe room that she wouldn't give the cops the combo for. But the guy just figured it out. He just wrote 1, 2, 4, 5, 6 and 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. And it opened. And. And they saw that they probably had been tortured in there. There was rope. There was, you know, other things where I'm sure they had trapped them in there on. On occasion. So, you know, she gets. Thank God she gets convicted, Jody. And she now says, oh, well, I should be. I'm. You know, I'm okay to go to prison because I'm going to speak the word of God and I'm going to share the gospel in prison. And she probably will. Now, I don't know how this prison is going to work, because most prisons, women, everybody hates a child abuser. So I hope that she's not collecting people and doing her podcast from there. Ruby, after four months of being away from Jody, then said, I am truly sorry. I now see how I was manipulated and everything. But she. And she all. Both of them got anywhere between, like, 10 and 40 years. However, Utah works differently, where it's like just the board decides how long you stay there. So it's not like a minimum or a maximum. It's. I think there's a maximum, but there is no minimum. So in a few years, they could just say, I think Judy has done her time and we are going to let her out. It's very weird the way it is, especially with child abusers. Maybe because the religion. There is such a fine line between the. The state and religion being, you know, with the LDS and Mormons, I don't know. But that's very disturbing because she is so manipulative. She will have a podcast, be life coaching again. Like, this woman can never get Out, Ruby. Same thing. I could see her getting out and doing TikToks. I could see her kids possibly forgiving her because children do forgive their parents, especially their mothers. Of course, I predicted a year ago that Kevin would find another woman, and he has. He's already remarried. Remarried to a woman named Becca. Good. You know, he's had full custody of the four kids since this happened. I hope this woman has some stability and that they're okay. Chad, who is. Has a popular TikTok account. I followed him. He is cute as ever. And he's just like, hey, guys, it's me, Chad. Little update. A lot of you guys are asking me, like, you know, why didn't my dad do more? And my dad did not know what was going on. Like, my dad and I hadn't seen any of our family for a year because Jody made it that way. So that. I mean, I 100% believe it. Does it make him a bad dad? Yeah. But he wasn't the only one that got stuck under this spell of this weird woman just infiltrating your life. This one couple that was featured, they ended up getting divorced. And the woman's like, I really don't think we would have gotten divorced if. If we didn't get involved in these. This weird therapy situation with Jody. And I'm just fascinated, you know, by that. This kind of cult life coaching parlayed with podcasting, like in your ear, falling under some spell. There's been so many of these people, not nearly as dangerous as Jody, but there's been so many, like kind of grifter, life coacher people that have come in and out since. I've even been doing this for 10 years that women flock to. They go to the three day conventions and then a couple years later, they're just like off the radar. They're gone. They. They got canceled. They did something wrong, you know. You know who I'm talking about. Rachel Hollis, girl, wash your face type of person. I don't know. So anyway, so that was. It's very interesting. It is disturbing. Even though I've seen a lot, I still think it's. It's kind of a fascinating documentary to watch about mind control, that religion. It didn't focus as much on the YouTube side of it. I think that was the previous doc that I saw that really, like, followed them from the beginning and really showed a lot of their videos of when they first rise to popularity. But there was that. That element where the older kids didn't want to do it anymore and that pressure of the parents are like, okay, well, I guess we're not gonna go on a vacation. I guess your brother isn't gonna be able to do soccer because Sherry here doesn't want to do the Tampax ad. You know, why can't you just talk about having your period? Okay, because we just, we have a check for $4,000 here, and you're just, you're not gonna do it. That's how selfish you are. Like, those are the things that happen in these family vlogging, YouTube, family stuff. And thank God, I feel like the next generation of moms are starting to see why that maybe is not the. The route to go. But there's still a lot of women that are putting their young children on Instagram and having them dance in little bikinis and things and then being like, isn't this amazing that my 3 year old was shared 18 million times? And you're like, I don't think those 18 million people that shared it were all moms saying, this is a bathing suit I want to buy for my daughter. Okay? It's creepy shit. And they just are like, well, la, la, la. Now I have all these followers. It's very weird.
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Okay, I want to also get into a little update about the president of France. Wife. So we have talked about this Brigitte, and she is much older than the president of France. And the story of them is she was a married mother of three and taught at a school in which he attended while she was the teacher. So she was in her mid to late 30s and he was like 15, and I think he might have been in one of her classes. He goes off to college, does his own thing, she gets divorced, he comes back, they fall in love and have been together ever since. So they, I believe, have denied that there was any romance happening when he was a student there. But of course, people have spoken about it. Then Candace Owens, who, you know, is a huge YouTuber, and she goes and does a whole series called Becoming Brigitte. And I have not watched it. I have reported on it, knowing what she was saying, but she had convinced people with her way of journalism and holding her pencil and being, showing whatever facts, photos and whatnot, that she believed that Brigitte was born a male and was trying to convince the world of that. And through that, you know, people are like, not only was she born a male, but she might have also been having in a, you know, a romantic relationship with the president when he was still a child in, in high school, whatever. So finally they did sue Candace Owens. And that is still going on, that lawsuit of suing Candace in which it'll go to trial and they, they will prove that she really was pregnant, therefore she was born a woman. She has photos to prove that. They were basically taking her brother's photos and saying this was her, it wasn't her brother. The brother went missing. I don't know what it was. So confusing. So, I mean, they're choosing to sue. So I'm, you know, I think there's pretty good evidence that she was born a woman. However, 10 people in France have been convicted of cyber bullying in France for commenting on this story and making their own videos and alluding to, to an inappropriate relationship that may have happened. So they are, they were facing time, but I think they can do time served, but they do have to go to like a cyber bully class. They have to do all these things and now that's in France. So I just find that a very interesting thing in this world where people comment under posts that they do their own videos and they're just like, this is, you know, my opinion or whatnot that I don't know the whole case of how extreme these people went in participating in the story that Candace Owen has put out that they claim is completely false. But it does make me wonder in this world where people make a living on just like making tik toks and commenting on other people's stuff if, if it's going to change the way people report on it. So there was, there's the update on that. This was very disturbing story. This couple, he's a dentist, she's very cute. They have a four and a one year old, they're in Ohio and he didn't show up for work and he's very prompt. So the owner of the, or his partner called and he didn't answer. And so they really got concerned when they tried to contact the wife and she didn't answer either. So the people at the dentistry called the police and said, we're very concerned because not only is he not ever late, but the wife is not answering either. So they went over to the House, the people that worked at the dentistry. And they heard the kids crying, but they couldn't get in. So then they called the police. And the police found this young beautiful couple. Both shot she once and I think him multiple times. When the story first came out, I think most people thought, is this a murder suicide? Well, no gun was found anywhere on the present, so they know that it was not a murder suicide. But also there wasn't like anything stolen or any breaking of entry. So who would do this and spare the children? They do now have a photo of just a guy. I mean, it's a snowy area, it's Ohio. He's got a hoodie, he's got. I mean there's nothing. This could be any man. This could be my husband, this could be my son like this just walking away. So there. It's rumored that she did have an ex husband. Now from my research, both the 4 and 1 year old are children that the dentist and his wife Monica had together. So when I saw rumors that they believe it could be her ex husband, to me that's quite confusing because why would an ex husband be so angry years after they've broken up to the point where they've had a couple children together and why would he have any access to the home? Because they believe they were shot in the middle of the night, like at 2 or between 2 and 4 in the morning. So what would his gripe have to be with that? And I tried to find if in fact she was married before the dentist. And I couldn't find any definitive articles about that. So this is just super disturbing. I'm sure people in the neighborhood are just terrified what this is about. But it does seem like it was personal and not like a random thing where, you know, a crazy person's going around the neighborhood. Little update on the Rob Reiner, Michelle Reiner double murder by their son Nick. He's being accused. Nick Reiner, he is no longer on suicide watch. January 7th, which is this is airing January 7th, though I don't have the knowledge. He will be entering his plea with his famed defense attorney, Alan Jackson, who was the attorney for Karen Reed. But also Alan Jackson was a prosecutor prior to this. So I thought that was kind of interesting. I always feel like they former prosecutor does make a great defense attorney. And anyway, many people think that plea will be reason of, you know, innocent by reason of insanity. There's a lot of questions about whether he had checked into a hotel, then went, then left the hotel and then went back to the house. Like we don't really know the timeline of things. We know that they were all together. They went to the Conan o' Brien wedding, Conan o' Brien holiday party. And it got weird and they all left. So did they go back to the house and have another argument in which, you know, Rob said, you're not staying here tonight? And then did he go check into that hotel, get more angry and psychotic and come back and kill them in their sleep in their bedroom because they were found in their bedroom by their daughter. So horrible. And then go back to the hotel where then he cleaned up because the hotel checked his room and saw blood and whatnot, then left there and was found walking around Exposition park near usc. That's where they found him later that day, the following day, like probably 10 hours after the murder. So we're going to find that out what his plea is. Also, sadly, they had just written letters to. They'd been following this, this gentleman that they think is a. This man who they think is innocent. He's on death row and he, he's claims to not have done this murder and it takes a while to get emails and he's been corresponding with the Reiners for years and they've been trying to get him probably another trial or whatnot. And they were sharing with Billy Crystal his. He did like a lyrical thing that was in some show from prison because he's like a poet, lyricist, but he's on death row. And he saw in the news that they were murdered and he was like, this can't be true. This cannot be true. And then a couple days later, he got an email letter which he would get all the time from Michelle, like telling him that Billy Crystal saw his lyrical poem and thought it was great. And, you know, we're getting people involved to help with your case. So that is just another sad and ironic twist that here they were, you know, helping people that they believed were innocent on death row and now their son might be on death row because we don't know if the prosecutor is going to go for death. But it does exist in California. So it could be life without imprison, life without parole, or it could in fact be death, if it's. But they are going to say it's a first degree premeditated murder. So that's what it's going for. Okay, now I want to get into this other crime that someone told me about because, you know, my fascination with grifters and what's interesting is as a gay grifter and I'm going to call them a gifter and there's a lot of grifters, come in all shapes and sizes, ethnicities, everything. But this one kind of caught my eye because it involved San Diego, Mexico, good looking people, and like a very beloved, fabulous gay guy. So there was this guy and he was about 50 and he was very, very well liked. His name was Jake Mendonino and he had a long term boyfriend for many years. And that ended. And then he went on the apps and he found this really cute Mexican guy and his name was David and he worked out all the time. And he was much younger. Jake was 50 and he was much younger. And he like told all his friends about him and they're like, great. You know, a couple of his gay friends were like, I love him. A hot Mexican guy. You know, I like him, tall, dark and handsome. And he had another friend who was helping him, like, was an interior designer. And she was really happy for him that he found somebody. So everybody was happy that he found somebody. But they're like, this guy's like 25 years younger than you, but like, who cares, right? So then he goes and he decides to buy a condo in Rosarito beach and it's beautiful and, and his like best girlfriend is an interior designer and she's going to help him. And then one night they find his Range Rover, like off the side of the road and they're like, that's weird. And down this ravine they see this man that's been stabbed and killed. So what happened? What happened in Rosarita Beach? He went there all the time. He loved to stay at this one hotel when he would go while his condo was being like, done. I don't know that he had like moved in yet. So who did it? Right? So they, they realize that he had had dinner with this guy who was, rode a motorcycle and left. They checked into this hotel and then he left pretty early in the night. Like, he definitely did not stay night. And they had that on surveillance cameras. So they're like, how could this be? So they looked to try to find him and they said, what happened? And he goes, oh, you know, Jake and I were friends and I had dinner with him and then I was back in San Diego by like midnight. Well, records show that someone called and that Jake left to supposedly help someone with like their car. They, they were broken down. So of course the cops start putting it together, thinking, wait a minute, this guy David is not who he says he is, and he's, he wasn't a good guy. And maybe he left then called Jake and was like, oh my gosh, my motorcycle broke down. Please help me. And then Jake came and maybe some other people met him and tried to rob him or whatever and killed him. But we need to talk to David so they find out more about David. And David was an amateur porn star, but also he was a nursing student. So he told people. So Jake told all of his friends, oh, I'm paying for David to go to nursing school. He really wants to be a nurse. I hope that we stay together for a long time, but he wants to have his own thing. So when they go out to dinner one night, the interior designer is like, oh. Or one of these friends are like, oh, where did you, where are you becoming a registered nurse or just an LVN or. And he just couldn't answer anything. She's like, well, where's the nursing school? And he just couldn't answer anything. And they're like, okay, what is this about? Of course we find out later that he took the money and just pocketed it. Never went to school or anything. But does that mean that he killed him? Like, we don't know. So this goes on for a while. I'm trying to figure it all out and this is where it gets real juicy. So the cops start looking through all of his social media and whatnot. Oh, but they also see that he lied. He lied saying, oh, I went back to San Diego at like, by like between whatever 10 and 12 midnight. He actually, you see him crossing the border. I mean, so stupid. You can't lie about that at like 3:30am so already that's like a four hour difference. Then we find out through social media that he has a girlfriend, a very cute white girlfriend named Taylor who is pregnant with his child and they are engaged and they live in a very kind of very modest, like, didn't look like a cute area apartment of San Diego. And I mean, I was just shocked like when, like that is a shocking thing to find out because I mean, this guy is truly gay for pay. Like, not only was he doing like gay porn per money, but he was doing gay stuff with Jake for years for money. He told Taylor, the wife, that Jake was his boss. He also had a handwritten letter from a hotel that they would go in San Diego and hook up at where Jake said, if anything happens to me, David, my love gets my Rosarita condo that I just purchased. Well, that can hold up in a court of law. Like a handwritten note like that. But the signatures, the handwriting didn't look exact. But also he may have written it, he may have written it just to tell his lover, listen, I do love you. You can have the condo. Like, my God. So I think he did write it. And then with that, that Jake, once. Jake wrote that. Then David having this, wanting this typical, this, you know, normal life, quote, unquote, normal life with a woman, with a baby. I'm sure he was bi, but loved his. Loved that, wanted to and needed the money. And so he put this plan in place. And then they discover all this phone milk, phone messages and. And text messages and voicemails of him talking to Taylor, saying how guilty he feels, and then he didn't think that he would feel this way after. And, you know, but she wanted nice things, and so he had to do it. In the end, he did get convicted for life. She had the baby, but she did also do 14 years. And that is someone I would really love to talk to. The person that told me about this crime. They. They just knew of the crime. They didn't know of anybody. But her name is Taylor and Taylor Langton Lang. Yeah. Taylor Langton. I think it's L A N G, T O N. Wait, L A N G, S T O n. She did 21 months a few years ago. I mean, that would be a very interesting story because now she was convicted for, I think, knowing or not answering the police correctly or lying to police or something. But did she really know. Did she really know that he went and killed this guy? Did she know that. That he was also, like, having sex with this guy and then was like, oh, you know, my sugar daddy, I'm gonna also kill him. Like that? I just. That's an element I'd really like to explore. So here he is. He's very cute with his dimples. He's in prison now for life. I'm sure he has. I'm sure he has a wife in prison. I mean, outside of prison, that puts money on his books and probably a boyfriend, too. And here's the note that says, I, Jake Menandino, leave everything to David Mesa, to this, you know, and so he said everything. So that included the condo and everything. Interesting. And the girl's very cute, like, you know, very. Just normal looking. And they were like this couple, pregnant, ready to have a baby. And he was. That was the end of that for him. The last one I want to talk about right now is a murder that I've mentioned before throughout the years of doing Juicy Scoop, because I actually knew this woman and her name was Lana Clarkson. And the way I met her is early in my standup. Days I had a friend named Lemaire, and Lemaire and I both started doing stand up at the same time. That lamar was like 17 years older than I am and she was a hairdresser and she was really cool and, and fun and appeared, you know, and acted much younger than, than what she was. But so she would have been like in her early 40s or something. And I was like 23. And so we were doing stand up shows in the Belly Room and she goes, oh, my friend Lana, she's a singer and an actress, but she wants to start doing standup. She's coming to the show. So she was very tall and beautiful and just like a perfect face. And I was hanging out with her and she's just like, I just need to get something going. I, you know, I'm 40 now and I just love that you girls are beautiful and attractive and being funny. I just, I want to start doing standup. I want to learn how to do standup. I, I sing and I act, but I want to just, I got to do something else. So, like, probably like, you know, several, several years after that, because this happened, this crime happened in the early 2000s. I, I just couldn't believe it because I turn on the news and it's her. And she has been found in this very famous man's house with her head blown off. And that was Phil Spector. I'm sure many of you are familiar with this crime, but it's really creepy when even if you just had a brief encounter with someone to know them. And he was a very creepy looking guy and he just had crazy hair, but then he'd wear wigs and he had this big mansion in like Alhambra. And so it was like the biggest, nicest house and like kind of a very middle class area outside of la. And she was working at House of Blues as like a VIP hostess. And he came in and, you know, started to talk to her and she was probably like, oh my God. This guy probably told her he could help with her singing career, could help with anything. He had a driver with him. This is before Uber days. They went to like one other spot together and then she went home with him back to the house. And the driver was waiting outside all night to see if he was going to drive her home or what. And he heard like a gunshot and he's like, what? So he goes and looks in the window and sees her in this chair, like shot dead. So he calls the police and is like, there's a dead woman here. And I don't know what's going on. When they find Phil Spector there, he's pissed. He's screaming. He's like, this crazy girl comes into my house and then shoots her head off. Like, what the. Is this, like, just. No, no. Like, oh, my God. I don't know how this happened. So his claim right from the start is that she came there, took his gun that was there, and he had lots of guns, and I guess was distraught about being 40 and being a B actress that did, like, you know, barbaric, whatever. These, like, movies that were like, you know, these, like, kind of Tarzan type movies, whatever, because you need, like, a big, voluptuous, like, sexy girl. And so therefore, she was so depressed that night that. That was the night she decided to blow her hat off. Well, some of the things that I think convinced the jury otherwise is that one thing that I thought was very interesting is that it's very unusual for a woman, especially a really attractive woman, to end their life by shooting themselves, killing and destroying their face like that. It's just something that just doesn't happen. Her family and friends were like, no way. She's never been like this. She was always, like, positive and funny, and she always, like, got back on her feet, and she never, like, you know, she was just always hustling and doing her thing, and there's just no way. And then in the trial, they found all these other women in which he. That would be some weird. That he'd want to do, where he'd be like, let me put a gun in your mouth. And, like, you know, just some weird kink thing. And these women would be very scared and freaked out and. But they all got away. So the idea was most likely he. She got herself in this weird position, and he was like, let me just try something, or so. And I think he accidentally didn't mean to kill her, but I think he did, and. And then tried to say that she killed herself. In the meantime, he kept pushing it off, pushing off. So this thing went on for, like, seven years before it got to trial, which is just so horrible for the family because he had money to hire. One thing that he did was, like, hire attorneys, then fire them. Then they could go and say, hi, I'm the new attorney. I need, you know, eight months to get up on this case. So he kept buying himself more and more time, and he was already very elderly. And then in that time, he married some young girl, another young girl, who's, like, holding his hand and his weird hair and his wig and they'd go to the courthouse and of course, they had to destroy Lana's character. So they were, like, ripping on the fact that she was in movies that were not big blockbuster movies. And, you know, she did. Her career never was, you know, even though she did guest spot, she never, like, a series regular, whatever. And this twat who's just married to this old fart is, like, laughing like, what a loser. She was like, oh, lucky you. Look at the prize you have. Like, it just sometimes I'm just like, I'm so embarrassed to be a woman. I really am. And luckily, they did convict him of the crime and he went to prison. And then he died of possibly Covid complications. But he was also 81 and living in a prison, so he was dead. But that idea that. And I've said this before, like, you know, now they say, oh, nightlife is dead for the Gen Z. Good, good. I'm glad it's dead. Nothing good happens after midnight. Also, the amount of times that women got stuck being in a compromised position because we didn't have Uber, because we didn't have a cell phone that was handy. I mean, she probably in this year had a cell phone maybe. But not having the Uber where you could just go, just let me get a car right now, like, or whatever, get out of this situation is just horrible. And. But you. I can see her face now at the Comedy Store, like, talking to me and being like, you guys are so funny. I mean, I just feel like I've got great. I was like, you. I'm sure you have great stories you could just tell, like your acting stories and your weird situations and, you know, and you could see she wore flats. He was very short, but she was so tall she would wear flats. And also she was a kid, know the vip, like, hostess person. So all night long. So that's what you saw, like, in the horrible crime scene was such, like, the sheer black nylons that were in at the time, flats, little black dress. Anyway, so thank you so much for listening to Juicy Crimes. This is every Wednesday, and usually I have a great interview. It's always. It's always different, though. And tell me what other crimes you want me to cover. Let me know. Of course. Spread the word, subscribe and leave a review. Thank you so much.