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Hello and welcome to Juicy Crimes. On today's show, I'm going to cover a handful of crimes, some updates, some new ones that we haven't discussed. And then I have a great interview with a woman who really was there firsthand for the infamous Murdoch murders, as well as what she is working on now and how being part of that really changed the trajectory of her career. So let's first get into a documentary that is on Netflix right now, which is the number one movie happening right now. It's a documentary and it is the true story behind the investigation of Lucy Letby. And Lucy Letby was a young nurse living in the UK and she was in charge of NICU babies in an area of the hospital. She was very established. She was like in her early 30s, but she'd been a nurse for quite a while. So she actually was one of the more senior nurses on this floor. And the doc starts out with her being arrested. She lived at her mother's home. And of course you're wondering, like, what is this really all about? Well, trigger warning. It is very disturbing. She is accused of murdering seven children, Babies, infant babies, and attempting six more. Meaning that she would give some. Some of the accusations was that she would give insulin to babies who didn't need insulin, that she would overfeed the babies in which then they'd have trouble breathing. Some was that she was putting oxygen in them. And what happened was there was just these babies were not meant to not survive. So it would be like a shocking thing that would happen. And it happened at this one particular hospital that she was working at over and over again. And then when they really put it all together and realized, wow, she was there for all of these babies deaths and we think that she is responsible.
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And you know what's interesting is that they're English, so even when they're, like, handcuffing her and taking her away, it's very polite. It's like, this is just for purposes, you know, just to get you so you're not getting away. This is too tight, you know? And then she's sitting there and she's really comatose. Now, there's always two ways to think of this. Is it because you are so guilty that you're like, oh, my evilness is cut up with me, or is it really like you just are in a state of shock and you can't believe this is happening? So, you know, there's definitely some moments that we see that you think, my gosh, she's guilty. Like, how does she, you know? Oh, I don't remember. I don't recall. Um, yet they had text messages when she. When one of the babies passed where she wrote a friend and said, I can't believe it. It's so sad. The dad is screaming and crying. You know, this is just unimaginable, unimaginable pain. So then you're like, if she did this, is it, what is she getting out of it? Is she playing God? Is she is a single woman? Is this somehow. Is she envious of women that can have young babies and have a family? Is it just a mental illness? Did she try it once and is now somehow into having this feeling? Or maybe she likes being the hero. Maybe she didn't mean for the child to. To pass, but then be the hero that saves the baby the whole way through. Now, this all happened over 10 years ago. And what's interesting about this documentary is there's these two women speaking. One is one of the mothers of the babies who passed and it was allegedly murdered. And the other one is Lucy's good friend, who kind of is the only person that's letting us know that Lucy was a normal girl. They went to nursing school together. They enjoyed doing stuff while out of nursing school that they've kept in touch this whole time that she's been in prison. You know, she misses her cat, she misses her parents like she's a normal person. There was also evidence, not in the doc, but that I researched that some belief she might have been having an affair with a married doctor. And then there's a lot that go off on her writings, which is when she was. She was incarcerated for like a year until the trial, and that they were looking at all her writings. And one would argue that she's guilty. The other would say that she's like, I can't believe that I'm being put in this nightmare and these people are nightmares. And it's just very. It's very interesting because then like the third quarter of the. Of the second half of the documentary, you really kind of wonder, is there enough evidence? Was this just negligence on the hospital in general? Did they. Were they not equipped to have babies this ill and that many of them on the unit? And she just happened to be there because she was an experienced nurse that kind of floated around and could do many different things on the floor. So it is ongoing right now, the appeals, but she was convicted. And of course, it was a salacious story and her face was all over the tabloids. And the most prolific baby serial killer as a female, except for this one other woman in all of England. And it's just such a bizarre thing when you think of a healthcare provider doing this. And this is. You know, there's been many cases like this over the years, oftentimes more oftentimes with elderly people. So her family sticks by her, this friend sticks by. By her. And then what I noticed in the documentary that was interesting is for both the mother of the victim, one of the babies, and also her good friend, it said digitally anonymous. Anonymousized. So I'm like, are these people what is. And I was really looking at it, and it's kind of interesting. So they did a documentary, but instead of interviewing the actual two people that I'm describing to you, they just took their words and put it in an AI actor who was very pretty and had glowy skin and put them in a setting instead of having it. You know, instead of having their identity maybe be masked, like in the olden days, someone would have like a wig on or sunglasses, or they'd be like, oh, yeah, I knew the mobster. You know, they like, change the voice. They just do this now. And I wonder how much more we're going to see of that type of thing in documentaries. Or what if the director's just like, this person is pretty unattractive and therefore it's not really telling the story we want. Let's just digitally anonymize them and put in a pretty person that is 30 and has glowing skin and tells their story and you just are like more, you just. It's easy on the eye. It's very, very interesting because you, you wouldn't think that they would do it in a documentary, but they did. So definitely I did a quick overview for you guys just as something that I think that is pretty interesting and I'd love to hear if your mind changes in the second half of the show, which is where they then really get into the appeal and have other medical experts and stuff come and say that they're really. No one ever saw her give these things to the babies. No one. You know, so just. You're just basically going on circumstantial evidence and she is getting, she's in there for life and she's only 36 years old. So we'll see what happens with that. Obviously this doc should, shouldn't hurt her. It should only maybe help her appeal if that. Okay. Brendan Banfield, who I did the juicy crimes with Shannon about, he has been convicted of a double. Double murder. To remind you, this one just was the most twisted story. It was an FBI. No, sorry, an IRS agent and his wife who was a nurse who did the night shifts. They had a four year old daughter. They hired a Brazilian nanny and according to the prosecution, he and the nanny started having an affair and decided to come up with this elaborate scheme where they went on a fetish website called FetLife and basically were catfishing his wife Christina, acting like they were her saying that she has a fantasy of a man coming into the home, coming into her bedroom as she's sleeping there and graping her and, and that's her fantasy and bring the rope and everything. So this guy is also on the FetLife thing. His last name was Ryan and he is like down for this kink. He shows up, they. He's doing what he thinks she wants and then they come and he acts like a hero, shoots the man. The man isn't dead. So then the nanny comes and finishes off the man while he takes the knife because the Christina told him to bring the knife and then ends his own wife's life. So here she thinks she's really thinks this guy is assaulting her, thinks that her life is in danger. Her husband comes to the rescue. She's like, thank God. And then he starts stabbing her. So they tell the police, oh my God, my wife was having an, having an affair or having fetishes. This weird guy came in, he was in the midst of stabbing her. I got there just in time. Unfortunately, I couldn't save my wife at that point. This man had already done the damage. But the nanny came and finished off the man. They get the nanny, who admits to all of the scheme and is the star witness. And she has not been sentenced yet, but she will be for manslaughter, not first degree. But they did get him on first degree double murder. The jury was very quick in their decision. They rested on a Friday and had the answer. I think by Monday, after nine hours of deliberation, they did convict him of the double murder. Now in he did take the stand. I think at that point he felt, I have nothing to lose. And he was sticking by his story. And his defense was like, every time that Christina wrote on her computer or on her phone, corresponding as Christina to this fetlife, it was when she was at home in the proximity of her computer or phone. And the prosecution said that's how savvy and manipulative this guy was and methodical in planning it. He made sure that every time he hopped on her computer, it was while she, she was home. Now, she might have been in the shower, she might have been taking a nap. So in his, when he took the stand, he says the nanny hits on him. She starts to scooch her chair next to him, and then as he's going up to the bedroom to go to bed, she walked into his bedroom and then they started having an affair. He said he'd had several affairs before the nanny, and he wasn't serious about the nanny. He loved his wife, she had had affairs, she knew about his affair. So certainly he wouldn't end his wife's life over this nanny affair, since he has so many. And that he said when he came home that day, he heard what he thought was his wife having sex, having an affair, which to each his own. Like, I guess he was thinking, oh, well, I had an affair. I mean, this is what he's trying to say. Like. But then he heard more screams or whatever and he thought something might be wrong. And that's when he went up, saw that his wife was being attacked by this guy, tried to kill the guy, tried to save her, but it was too late. That was his story. Well, the jury didn't buy it. He did get convicted and he will be sentenced to. I think it will be, I'm sure it'll be for life, two times over, since it was. He also was convicted of killing the poor guy that just thought he was doing a fantasy, consensual fantasy on a fetish website. So very sad. Remember the story about the poor girl that, that was found dead in her bunk bed on the cruise ship. This was very disturbing. She was a 15 year old girl and in the cabin on the cruise ship was her, her dad, her biological dad, her stepmother, her biological brother, and then her stepbrother who was a teenager as well. They didn't know where she was. They couldn't find her. They were concerned. And then they found her wrapped in a blanket underneath the bunk bed and they, they have now arrested the stepbrother. So imagine this family and, and what they're going through and the feeling that you'd have if you're the mother and maybe you liked, maybe you were liked this, this your husband's next wife. Maybe you loved that they were a blended family. Maybe there was no concern of any kind. Just absolutely terrible. And he has been arrested, so we'll see where that goes. But they believe that he is the only one responsible. Okay, a little bit about the Epstein stuff. I really just. It's so overwhelming, the material. I mean, there's no way that I will be ever able to cover it all, nor that would I want to. And there's so much information and there's so many people that are putting out information based on what they're finding in the files. Some of it is a little conspiracy, some is putting two and two together, some. Some is connecting all the dots. But the latest thing is there many people still believe that Epstein is alive. There's photos of him with a tattoo on his arm. And then when they showed his dead body after he ended his life, he didn't have a tattoo. But was that tattoo in that one photo, was that AI? Was that even real? Who knows? Now there's this man that looks like it could be him, who with longer hair walking around Israel with what appears to be bodyguards. And these photos are floating around and people are saying, oh my God, he's alive now. We always knew he was alive. He's alive. The next person would say, no, that's AI. Someone's putting that out to distract us from the real horrors that went on. The amount of people that are truly mention as far as actually attending parties, which based on the emails appears that yes, there was kinky sex going on, there was sex with young women or children, but very young because it'd be like, oh, that the. Your littlest girl got quite naughty and things like this. And it just, the, it just, it's just people running the world. It's billionaires, it's elites, it's like all of them were down to do this. It was like what stays, what happens on Epstein island stays on Epstein island kind of philosophy. And you're just to wrap your brain around it. I'm just like, I just can't believe that so many people were doing this and didn't think anything of it. And we know that Ghislaine would, would, would get the young girls and recruit the young girls. Whether they were paid for a one time massage or they were truly like human trafficked and they really couldn't get out. But even she, you know, according to people that she engaged in friendships and book writing and stuff, she said, oh, I, I would find these girls and you know, and then they would service Jeffrey because he needs to have three orgasms a day. And I just can't do that. And then someone would be like, really? Are you okay with that? Oh yeah. Because the girls are nothing. They're nothing. And that is what I think happened with any of the participants in this. I truly believe that they see themselves in such a different league of life among humans that they just thought that, you know what? This is what we do. This is what you do. When you get to this level, you can have anything you want. And this is something, it's taboo, it's wrong. And these people that we are abusing are not really people. I mean, I don't think of them as my friends or family or my kids. They're just here to service us. And that is the only way I can think that these people were okay doing this. And then coming back to the America, doing their job, being a delight, going to church, being a politician, being a banker, being a professor, having a wife, having kids, and then getting on the computer and being like, hey Jeffrey, when can we have our fun again? It is. I really, truly have to take a break from it. I don't know how much more I can cover of it. It's just so disturbing. And you know, then you look at Eyes Wide Shut, the movie and like, now do I want to watch that again? I never understood it when it came out, but he, Stanley Kubrick died shortly after putting that movie out. And there's even 15 minutes that was supposed to be in his final cut that then the studio cut out. And nobody knows what those 15 minutes were, but it was about a bunch of elites that wore masks that did like sexual things and I believe some type of human sacrifice or weird. It is just. And it was just all in front of us. And then people wonder what is going on with where in the world Is Savannah Guthrie's mother? If you remember, there was. That was a element of the Today show. Where in the world is Matt Lauer? Before he assaulted a girl whose book is out now? Anyway, he would go to different parts of the city of the country and he'd find a story. So where in the world is Savannah Guthrie's mom? It's been over a week now. It's very scary to wonder what is happening with her. Is it the brother in law and the sister? They were the last to see her. Is it like I predicted, some weird guy that was just hoping to make money and thought bitcoin would be a way to do it? Is the letter that went to TMZ just completely fake to start? Was she killed accidentally and then they made it look like a kidnap? Does this have anything to do with the fact that Savannah Guthrie was the first mainstream reporter to interview victims of Jeffrey Epstein and now this all came out. Does it have to do with anything with the Olympics? She was supposed to go to the Olympics. If it is a family member, possibly this brother in law and her sister, how horrible is that? You're the one who married the loser that ended, you know, that took your mother's life. While your sister is America's sweetheart. On the Today show, you know, every president has been involved, and then you have, you know, the today show, Jenna Bush, you know, crying about Savannah, which I believe it's all real. I believe the feelings of being scared for Savannah's missing mother are real. But it's just the timing of it all is just. It's overwhelming and just insane. This is coke. Zero sugar with real Coca Cola taste and zero sugar. Listen closely. Hear those bubbles? That's the sound of delicious. Real Coca Cola taste and zero sugar. Ice cold.