Bad Bunny, Super Bowl, Conspiracy Theories with Ian Edwards

Summary

Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

Episode: Bad Bunny, Super Bowl, Conspiracy Theories with Ian Edwards
Date: February 10, 2026
Guests: Heather McDonald (host), Ian Edwards (comedian, writer, producer)

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Episode Overview

In this lively, comedic episode, Heather McDonald catches up with longtime friend and standup comedian Ian Edwards. They engage in classic "Juicy Scoop" fashion, diving into Super Bowl party culture, the spectacle of Bad Bunny's halftime show, celebrity dating intrigue, and some of the strangest conspiracy theories dominating recent headlines. The conversation veers hilariously—and at times introspectively—into media skepticism, true crime fascination, the persistent darkness of the Epstein files, and the strange world of Hollywood secrets. True to form, Heather and Ian offer sharp wit, tangential stories, and a candid, irreverent take on current events.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Super Bowl Parties: Fashion vs. Football

• No One Cares About the Game

  • Heather jokes that her audience is more interested in Super Bowl parties, outfits, and celebrity sightings than actual football (04:02).
  • “Some of us decided what was cuter in our closet... and decided then who they were rooting for. That person might have been me.” – Heather, (04:02)

• Party Hopping in LA

  • Ian describes the complexity of choosing the right LA Super Bowl party, comparing it to holidays like Halloween and July 4th.
  • “LA is all spread out and you can’t party hop... it’s a fucking nightmare.” – Heather, (18:11)
  • “Super Bowl is the toughest to party hop.” – Ian, (19:09)

• Party Experience

  • Both share stories of their own Super Bowl parties—Heather favoring the party with good champagne, Ian enjoying a comedian-hosted gathering with lots of food, even if brought by someone who seemed to pre-empt the host.

2. Super Bowl Commercials & AI

• Overuse of AI in Commercials
  • Heather critiques commercials using AI to de-age celebrities, calling it "the laziest shit I've ever seen." (06:29)
  • Both notice the flood of mega-celebrities in ads, rather than traditional actors. Heather feels commercials are now “all big stars doing bits with filters on, or fake faces all together.” (08:03)
  • Ian: “Some of the things they were selling was...way off brand.” (08:06)

3. Bad Bunny’s Halftime Performance

• Spectacle vs. Experience

  • Heather praises the production value for viewers at home—“like watching a play... set direction, choreography, like no other halftime show”—but highlights that fans in the stadium could barely see the show due to obstructive props and staging. (08:53)
  • “You just see Alex Earl and... Pedro Pascal just dancing in the corner.” – Heather, (09:24)
  • Ian empathizes with in-stadium fans: “I couldn’t enjoy the performance because I was worried about people in the stadium.” (11:36)

• Bad Bunny & Celebrity Gossip

  • Briefly discuss celebrity attendees and connections—Kim Kardashian's new F1 driver boyfriend, Kendall Jenner’s rumored past with Bad Bunny, and the ambiguity of celebrity “dating.” (10:05–11:24)

• Performances Are Always Controversial

  • Heather points out that Super Bowl halftime shows always spark divisive opinions, whether it's Bad Bunny or Beyoncé: “Art did something to you. It's called subjective for a reason. You know, it's not for you.” (15:54)
  • Both agree the Snoop/Dre/Eminem halftime show was the “best” (roughly 2023's event). (15:23)

4. Pop Culture, Music, and Language Barriers

• Bad Bunny / J Balvin
  • Heather and Ian admit they don’t know all the words/songs but still enjoy the vibe. Ian: “The sound of the vocals is just another instrument to me.” (13:31)
  • Both express fandom for Latin music stars while decrying the tendency to judge performances too harshly or politically. (16:02)

5. True Crime & The Savannah Guthrie Missing Mother Case (24:06)

• The Disappearance

  • Heather breaks down the strange disappearance of Savannah Guthrie’s mother, blending her signature pop culture deep dive with true crime commentary. She lays out timelines, suspicions, and the confused media response, treating it as a modern mystery. (24:06–30:55)
  • Notable sequence about church’s role in raising the alarm, possible family involvement, and media speculation.
  • Ian asks, “Is there a ransom note?” and Heather explains the confusion over fake notes sent to the media. (28:05)

• Impact of Media & True Crime Enthusiasm

  • Heather jokes about her “FBI training” from following true crime so closely: “I work for the FBI and I work for the DOJ... It’s a lot.” (17:31; 33:13)
  • Both discuss how amateur sleuths and internet researchers are filling the gaps left by mainstream outlets.

6. The Epstein Files & Pizzagate: Conspiracies and Frustrations

• Dump of Epstein Files

  • Heather laments that despite exposure, only Ghislaine Maxwell sits in prison, and that the file’s release is designed to frustrate and demoralize the public. (35:16–37:28)
  • “We just worked on a big project and now we found out it doesn’t go towards our final grade. Like, fuck you. Why are you doing that?” – Heather, (36:13)
  • Ian speculates on relief among elites if public outrage leads nowhere: “If we’re not gonna do anything... now we really can get away with stuff.” (36:23)

• Pizzagate & Code Words

  • Heather adamantly claims “Pizzagate is real. It's 100 real.” She explains the use of food codes for illicit activity, while expressing incredulity over how poorly “coded” they are. (37:28–37:51)
  • Both joke about never having emailed about pizza in their lives.

• Hollywood & Illuminati References

  • Heather and Ian discuss how jokes and sketches from years past (Ex: Trevor Moore’s "elite party" sketch) are retroactively seen as whistleblowing. (57:32)
  • Ian shares stories of rumors and anecdotes about disturbing Hollywood scenes, while Heather notes it’s impossible to discern truth from myth but that new revelations are validating old “conspiracies.”

7. Social Media, TikTok Sleuths, and Media Distrust

• Both share their process of verifying wild claims from TikTok and Instagram, noting the importance of not believing every “citizen journalist,” but also highlighting the public’s eagerness to make sense of sprawling conspiracies. (47:08)

• Ian quips on how online amateurs out-investigate real authorities:

  • “They should get the jobs of the prison guards who didn’t watch [Epstein] that night. These people will pick... they were doing this for free!” (48:28)

8. Celebrity Scandals: Kanye, Kim, and Bianca

• The hosts discuss the oddities in Kanye West and Bianca’s relationship, the performative aspects of celebrity partnerships, and speculate about motives and image control. Heather wonders, “I would have thought by now, we would have learned what the motive was on her part.” (77:17)
• Ian jokes about “respecting all mobs,” referencing rumors about Bianca’s family, and both marvel at the outlandishness of showbiz life.

9. Skepticism About Mainstream Narratives

• Moon Landing Doubts
  • Heather recalls first hearing moon landing skepticism from Kenan Ivory Wayans, finding herself now open to the idea that “what we saw was a film reenactment to get America excited.” (86:22–88:06)
  • Both question the logistics of a 1960s lunar broadcast and marvel at how ideas once fringe are now seriously considered.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On AI in Commercials:
  • "This is the laziest shit I've ever seen." – Heather (06:29)
• Super Bowl Parties:
  • "In LA you can't party hop on 4th of July... you learn that young." – Heather (18:11)
  • "Super Bowl is the toughest to party hop if you want to see the game." – Ian (19:09)
• Critical Halftime Opinions:
  • "Art did something to you. It's called subjective for a reason. You know, it's not for you." – Heather (15:54)
• On Music Lyrics:
  • “The sound of the vocals is just another instrument to me.” – Ian (13:31)
• On Epstein File Dump:
  • "We just worked on a big project and now we found out it doesn’t go towards our final grade." – Heather (36:13)
• On Pizzagate Codes:
  • “Terrible codes. If you have a code, you ain't supposed to be able to break it.” – Ian (37:44)
• On Internet Sleuths:
  • “They should get the jobs of the prison guards who didn’t watch him that night. Because these people will pick do. They were doing this for free.” – Ian (48:28)
• On Feeling Overwhelmed:
  • “I don’t think you understand what it’s like to be in my brain. It fucking sucks right now. It’s not a good time.” – Heather (64:16)
• On Conspiracy Vindication:
  • “White people are starting to believe everything that black people knew about 10–15 years ago.” – Ian (85:24)
• Moon Landing Scepticism:
  • “The fact that he called the president from the moon...” – Heather (86:51)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Segment Description | Timestamp | |-------------------------------------------------------|------------| | Super Bowl parties, outfits over football | 03:59–05:02| | AI in commercials & celebrity ads | 06:06–08:15| | Bad Bunny halftime show: TV vs in-stadium experience | 08:53–12:11| | Conspiracy Safe Zones: Super Bowl critique | 15:22–16:02| | Savannah Guthrie’s mother disappearance recap | 24:06–30:55| | Epstein files, Pizzagate, conspiracy rabbit holes | 35:16–47:28| | Verifying TikTok conspiracy content | 47:08–50:11| | Kanye, Bianca, and Kim Kardashian discussion | 75:46–79:29| | Moon landing doubts and pop culture skepticism | 86:22–88:29|

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Additional Fun & Comedic Bits

• Ian’s Comedy Sketches:
  Heather highlights Ian’s Instagram roommate sketches with Paul Aaliyah, praising the comedic twist and antagonistic roommate dynamic. (72:07–75:05)

• Old Friends Banter:
  The duo recall their decades-long friendship, shared origins in Hollywood writing rooms, and inside jokes about black not cracking and the "baby blood" myth. (01:52–03:00)

• Questions About Charities & Aid:
  The pair take a detour discussing fire aid funds in LA (81:01–83:53), noting how money rarely ends up helping real victims, and discuss Ian’s comedy special proceeds going to direct assists.

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Tone and Style

The tone is irreverent, fast-paced, conversational, and at times conspiratorial—true to Juicy Scoop's blend of comedy and real-world observations. Heather drives much of the pop culture and true crime content with energetic curiosity, while Ian provides dry humor, grounded skepticism, and witty philosophical asides.

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Useful for Listeners Who Haven’t Tuned In

This episode is perfect for those curious about the intersection of celebrity culture, media skepticism, internet conspiracies, and the way humor interweaves with modern anxieties. Heather and Ian ensure listeners both laugh and—and squirm—as they review the week's juiciest, weirdest, and sometimes darkest scoops.

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For more on Ian Edwards:

• Instagram: @ianedwardscomic
• Standup Special: "Untitled" on YouTube
• Upcoming live shows: links on his IG

For Heather’s tour, Patreon, and extras:

• Website: heathermcdonald.net

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“Shit is wild. And it’s juicy, too.” – Heather McDonald (88:23)

Transcript

[Heather McDonald]

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[Ian Edwards]

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[Ian Edwards]

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[Ian Edwards]

Woo woo.

[Heather McDonald]

Hannah McDonald, juicy scoop. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I am so excited. We have so much to talk about and we are going to get into it with my dear friend. Known you since we're going like close to 30 years.

[Ian Edwards]

Think it's 30.

[Heather McDonald]

It's like 25 for sure. 25, 25. Let's keep ourselves a little younger. Ian Edwards, incredible standup comedian, does the funniest sketch videos about the roommates which we'll get into. My favorite thing that you do on Instagram and everything. Writer, producer, all around delight and at one time my office mate.

[Ian Edwards]

At two times your office mate.

[Heather McDonald]

You're right because we met on the Keenan Ivory, Wayne's Late night show. Right, right, right. We showed you. And then Lyricist lounge. And. Yeah, just still looking cute.

[Ian Edwards]

Thank you.

[Heather McDonald]

Black don't crack.

[Ian Edwards]

I mean. I mean, we're both hanging in there. Well, you know what I'm saying.

[Heather McDonald]

We really are. God, I'm always just like, well, it's that baby blood. I just put it in a shake.

[Ian Edwards]

I just use Joba oil.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, my gosh. Well, as you guys know, this is a comedic conversation podcast. We are going to get into the dark shit that we do know as our world, but it will be funny. So buckle up, bunnies, and let's go. All right. Super Bowl. The Seattle Seahawk wrote Boston Eats Turds. That is one of my favorite stories from. There was a time when the Patriots did win. Patriots. Am I saying it wrong?

[Ian Edwards]

Patriots, Patriots.

[Heather McDonald]

The Patriots won.

[Ian Edwards]

Pluralize that.

[Heather McDonald]

Patriots won. And the guy went crazy and ate the horseshit off the street. Do you remember that?

[Ian Edwards]

No.

[Heather McDonald]

It's a true story. It really did happen. So Seattle won. Where were you? What were you doing for Super Bowl?

[Ian Edwards]

It's so funny. I know. We're going to talk about Super Bowl. We're not going to talk about the game at all. We're going to talk about everything but the game.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, nobody cares about the game. And my audience doesn't care about the actual players and stuff.

[Ian Edwards]

A female orientated podcast, like, what is that?

[Heather McDonald]

But we all went to super bowl parties. We all got cute. Some of us decided, what was cuter in her closet? Was it blue and green or was it red and blue? And decided then who they were rooting for. And that person might have been me.

[Ian Edwards]

Who did you end up rooting for based on what was in your closet?

[Heather McDonald]

I did the Patriots, but then I got bummed because the party I went to was all Seattle Seahawks. And it should have been. I feel like people in California, we should at least go for something that's closer to us.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah. On the West Coast.

[Heather McDonald]

And so, you know. But I was there for the food and it was a really good party. And they had, like, Dom Perignon, like, flowing. So that's where I was.

[Ian Edwards]

That's where you were.

[Heather McDonald]

But it was liberal. Everyone loved Bad Bunny. Everyone loved Bad Bunny. Don't. Don't come after me. But we'll get into the Bad Bunny.

[Ian Edwards]

So we're not talking about Bad Bunny right now. We're just talking about.

[Heather McDonald]

Talking about the show in general. Where did you go? How many parties did you have to choose from?

[Ian Edwards]

There were three choices. I went to Eric Griffin's house.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, that's a good one.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah. Because I've never been there. He's been living there maybe like a year and a half, two years. He has a two year old son that I never met.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay.

[Ian Edwards]

And it was like a good time to meet the family. He had a birthday party earlier this year for his kid and I was out of town, so I was like, let me go to this super bowl party. And he invited me last minute, which is a perfect excuse to not have a gift. So.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, okay.

[Ian Edwards]

So you say, hey, come over for the Super Bowl. Like two hours before the Super Bowl. I can be like, you live an hour away. I have no. I didn't have to bring anything. Cause I. Yeah, I wouldn't make it on time for kickoff, so. Perfect.

[Heather McDonald]

And so were there other comedians and other cool people there so you could schmooze a little?

[Ian Edwards]

It was small. It was small, but it was a fun group. Vinny. Vinny brought so much food. Like he cooked. So he must have known in advance. Vinny fast line.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Ian Edwards]

It was like, did you ask Eric if you could have a Super bowl party at his house? Because that's how much food he brought and he's the only one that ate it.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. So. Okay, so, and so what did you think of, like, people always talk about the commercials. And I basically felt everybody just signed off their likeness for them to do AI of their face. They didn't even have to go to the Dunkin Donuts. That one with Jennifer Aniston and Ben Affleck, and they just took their younger selves and put them in that one. I'm like, that bummed me out. I was like, this is the laziest shit I've ever seen.

[Ian Edwards]

During the commercials. Sometimes I like watching the super bowl at home because I like to pay attention. So last night I had to go home and watch the commercial separately because there everybody was talking.

[Heather McDonald]

Exactly.

[Ian Edwards]

They were talking during the game. You couldn't hear none of the commentary. Sometimes I only watch football once a year. So I wanna see the commercials and I wanna listen to the game. Yeah, but that last one, you just reminded me. I didn't see that. I saw that one at the game, but I couldn't hear it Right. But I don't know what it was about. It felt like an 80s TV show.

[Heather McDonald]

It was. They were mocking. They were doing like an 80s sitcom. They were in the or 90s sitcom. They were in the Dunkin Donuts. And you know, Ben Affleck turns around and you can't tell. Like, that's why The AI stuff is just, like, really hard. But it's him Young. It's Jennifer Aniston Young. I mean, they didn't have to leave their house. They probably just had to do a voiceover on an iPhone and send it over, and they probably did everything there. And then in the end, she is like, this is my boyfriend, and it's Tom Brady with, like. Like, a big hairy wig. Everyone at my party thought that was really funny.

[Ian Edwards]

Oh, right.

[Heather McDonald]

I was like, okay. I didn't think it was that funny. Whatever. That was one of them. And then, of course, you know, every commercial, sadly, whether it's super bowl or not, nobody that's just a regular actor gets commercials anymore. It's all mega movie stars selling Nespresso and Uber Eats and grubhub and all big stars doing bits with filters on and. Or fake faces all together.

[Ian Edwards]

And some of the things they were selling was, like, out of character.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Ian Edwards]

I was like, you're selling that. That has nothing to do with you. This is way off brand.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Ian Edwards]

Like, I can't even get with the product.

[Heather McDonald]

Nobody's gonna take say no to the checks these days because. Okay, so then, you know, we get to the performance of Bad Bunny. And when you're watching at home. Yes. It's like you're watching a play. Remember when they would be like, we're gonna do west side Story on tv? Like, that's what it felt like. Yes. The level of choreography and set direction and all that stuff. You're like, oh, my God, this is like no other halftime show I've ever seen. But then my son Drake goes, but, mom, do you know what it was like for the people that actually bought the $30,000 ticket?

[Ian Edwards]

I know.

[Heather McDonald]

And I think that's the most interesting story out of here. And so here is someone. Access Hollywood actually did this point of view. You're watching Bad Bunny halftime performance from the stands and all the tall bushes, those were. That they could run off quickly and clear it. And the stage is empty. And you. You just see Alex, Earl and a couple, you know, Pedro Pasquale, a couple others just dancing in the corner. And they just. In the past, you would see the.

[Ian Edwards]

Band or they actually be able to see the show.

[Heather McDonald]

If you're in the stadium show, you'd like, Sid want. You couldn't see the show. So everybody that bitched at home, you don't have a right to. Like, you should have just go. Go to the bathroom and pull up the other show and be quiet. But, like, go to the bathroom.

[Ian Edwards]

The tpusa And.

[Heather McDonald]

And it'd be like, yeah, like someone's like, God, they're taking a. They take a really long to Kid Rock right now. But that. That's where it would be like, I guess kind of a bummer if this was like your. If now if you're, you know, some rich person that goes all the time. The Kim Kardashians with her new boyfriend, the F1.

[Ian Edwards]

Oh, that's who she's with now.

[Heather McDonald]

She's with him. Lewis Hamilton. Yes.

[Ian Edwards]

So he's black?

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, he's black and English.

[Ian Edwards]

She found a black driver.

[Heather McDonald]

As my mom says, everything comes back in style. She's going back. She's going back.

[Ian Edwards]

She'll go to the whitest sport and still find a black guy. That's wild. This is how I found out there's a black driver. He said Kim Kardashian is dating a driver from F1. I was like, oh, he's black as a black driver. Because Kim's date, of course.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. And he's really good looking. And you know, everybody that's English is a delight. Everything sounds nice, you know, no matter what they're saying to you. And so they look good together. And then Kendall was there, and allegedly she dated Bad Bunny. I don't even remember. I think they went to one basketball game together. Were they actually like a couple? Because isn't he bi? Fluid pan.

[Ian Edwards]

When did she date him? Wasn't she. Didn't she have a long term boyfriend? Like, I don't know that much about.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, I don't.

[Ian Edwards]

Jenners.

[Heather McDonald]

I kind of don't think they were. I don't know. But she was dancing in the stands to the music, to the trees.

[Ian Edwards]

To the trees, to the trees.

[Heather McDonald]

Dancing. It literally looks like when you go to like a. Like a corn base and you're like, have fun, kids. Hope you get out alive. Cause I don't know how fine. Like, I don't know what I'm looking for.

[Ian Edwards]

I couldn't enjoy the performance. Cause I was worried about people in the stadium. Like, just as a. Oh, you already.

[Heather McDonald]

Thought of how shitty this would be from that point of view.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah. Like, once I saw the.

[Heather McDonald]

You really are an empath.

[Ian Edwards]

I was like, how are they gonna see? Like. And then the more he went through the maze, I was like, this is bad for them. And then so I was watching it. You're like, they can't see. People are gonna be pissed. Like, you know when. You know your parents are gonna be mad when they come home? Like, I. So all day your Whole day's ruined because you know they're gonna be mad. So that's how I watched this. Knowing that these people in the stadium are gonna be mad.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, my God.

[Ian Edwards]

And then when I went home, do.

[Heather McDonald]

You know what codependency means?

[Ian Edwards]

It's basically that, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, oh, man, this is not gonna be good. Like. And then when I went home, somebody from the stands posted a video. So what was great about that video is that they could see all the moving parts. So they would go to the screen as he walked through the maze, and then when he came out to the areas where they could see, they would pan back to him.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay.

[Ian Edwards]

Then you could see the people directing the trees to move.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes.

[Ian Edwards]

And then the white lady would clip. Oh, come here.

[Heather McDonald]

Come on. Bush.

[Ian Edwards]

Bush this way. Bushes over here. And you see the bushes, like, scurrying. So that was. That was a good perspective. But I was really worried about, like, the people in the stadium and how much they got ripped off if that's all they came to see.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. Some other funny things about it is I know every song sounded familiar, but I don't speak Spanish, so. But I've always been like, da, da, da. You don't love it. And I saw a really funny video. Someone's like. When you're like, this is my favorite song. You're dancing, like, happy salsa, and then you look up what the words really mean, and it's that one song that's basically like, I wish we took more pictures together. Because, like, now. And the guy's like, when you listen to it in English, you're like, this is sad.

[Ian Edwards]

But I do like that. I like those lyrics.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ian Edwards]

Like, here's my thing with music.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes.

[Ian Edwards]

I don't listen to the words in English anyway. I can't sing songs. I can't do sing. I don't know the words of anything. Like, if I start trying to listen to the words of a song, I'll just tune out. And the. The sound of the vocals is just another instrument to me. So, like, just the same way, I don't know what note the person is playing. I don't know what the singer's saying. So I can enjoy Bad Bunny.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Ian Edwards]

But to be honest, I don't. This is the second time I saw Bad Bunny at Coachella. Was not that big of a fan. And if you didn't like the super bowl performance, it's okay not to like Bad Bunny. Just don't be racist about it.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes, exactly.

[Ian Edwards]

You feel me?

[Heather McDonald]

Like, yeah, Yeah, I totally agree.

[Ian Edwards]

I'm a J. Balvin fan, you know, like I enjoyed his performance when I saw him.

[Heather McDonald]

Right.

[Ian Edwards]

So that's why, first of all, I.

[Heather McDonald]

Think everybody is always very critical of any super bowl performance. There was one that I can't remember. I was like, this is the best one I've ever seen. I could have been the most buzzed. I don't know if it was Beyonce. I can't remember which one it was. But I remember I was into posting my opinion and I was like, this is the best. You know, and then people being like, what are you talking about? And I'm like, you know what? That's what it, it's just, it's just a fair. You're either like thinking it's the best or you don't know why these people were chosen or. But yeah, people have always been critical of the performance, no matter who it has been. They've either thought it was boring or it was too sexy or was too much shaking that ass or it was, you know, confusing or they didn't sing enough of their hits or they had too many guest singers. I think the best one, hands down though, was when we had like Snoop and Dr. Dre and Eminem. What was that like three years ago? That was the best. That was the best to me. I felt like no one could bitch about that one.

[Ian Edwards]

And I think nobody did. Yeah, some of the, some of the ones, like when you're saying when you post that you had a good time and you enjoyed it. There's a lot of performances I did enjoy that everybody hated. And I like, am I like, were we watching the same thing?

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ian Edwards]

Or like, are people just like. And people go so hard against a performance, like it's political.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes.

[Ian Edwards]

Like, forget the Bad Bunny like anybody else. Like, why'd you have to hate something so much?

[Heather McDonald]

Like, I mean, art did something to you. It's called subjective for a reason. You know, it's not for you.

[Ian Edwards]

Right?

[Heather McDonald]

It's like when people be like, well, I don't find her funny. Yeah, her material is not for you, 65 year old white man. You know, like, it's not for you.

[Ian Edwards]

You.

[Heather McDonald]

You don't have to like it like that. That's fine. You can say you don't like it. But I want to say right now, I love Bad Bunny. I love Bad Bunny, everybody. I am a huge fan of J. Balvin.

[Ian Edwards]

Fan.

[Heather McDonald]

Like, please, whatever it is, just like, don't come after me. No, I'm just kind of trying to analyze, like in this World where everybody feels in the moment to give their opinion and do it publicly.

[Ian Edwards]

Right, but why are we talking about this in fear? Like, you're like, saying, I love Bad Bunny. I love Bad. But. But no, there is. There is that kind of in the.

[Heather McDonald]

Air when this song comes on. I. I still listen to, like, regular radio.

[Ian Edwards]

Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

Like with dads and stuff. Geez, I do. And so I. I know what the popular songs are. I'm all over. And I never change the channel when it's him and everything. But I. There's a lot. Like, I'm just still not very familiar. Like, I, like, all of a sudden, I'll watch, like, the Grammys, and I'm like, oh, that's what that girl looks like. Like, I know that song. I don't.

[Ian Edwards]

That's why I watched the Grammys.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Ian Edwards]

Every year.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Ian Edwards]

And to be like, oh, that's that. That's that. This is what I missed.

[Heather McDonald]

Right, Right.

[Ian Edwards]

Cause I don't listen to the radio like you do.

[Heather McDonald]

Right. Well, I still. I listen to the radio, but I still don't know the faces with the names and you know all that kind of stuff because I am. I've taken on two other jobs in the last 72 hours.

[Ian Edwards]

Oh, yeah? What happened?

[Heather McDonald]

I work for the FBI and I work for the DOJ, Department of Justice and FBI.

[Ian Edwards]

I'm trying to find Bongino's replacement.

[Heather McDonald]

I'm. I'm just overwhel. And I don't think people know when you. When you go deep in this shit, you're like, does the. I hope people appreciate what I'm finding out. Like, it's. It's a lot, but we'll. But anyway, now when you. When you have multiple parties, whether it's. These are the holidays where if you're lucky enough to be invited to a few and you are a social person, it can cause problems of FOMO Halloween. Like the actual big night of the Halloween parties, depending on what day it falls on. Fourth of July is a big one, especially in la. Cause there's maybe the best party, but it's in Calabasas with a big mansion and a pool. Do I want to do the one that overlooks the ocean? There's maybe something going on there. You never can draw. You can't go to both. You learn that young. You cannot party hop on. 4th of July in LA, it's a fucking nightmare. Then there's one in the Hollywood Hills. And so you blow that one off. And then you realize, I should have gone to Los Feliz. Or whatever. Because these two were lame. It's horrible. So I think super bowl is hard thing to like choose because LA is all spread out and you can't party hop. And not New Year's Eve, because no one cares about New Year's Eve. But I think Halloween, 4th of July and Super bowl is like an adult LA. Hard decision.

[Ian Edwards]

I feel like the super bowl is the toughest to party hop.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Ian Edwards]

If you want to see the game.

[Heather McDonald]

Right.

[Ian Edwards]

And like, you can't say, all right, let me see one half here and then one half somewhere else. Cause then you're gonna miss the halftime show.

[Heather McDonald]

Right.

[Ian Edwards]

So you can't. You don't even have the half time to like have time to get somewhere. Plus, no place in LA is a halftime. A super halftime away from another place.

[Heather McDonald]

Right. Nothing.

[Ian Edwards]

So you're still gonna. So that's tougher. July 4th, I feel like it's possible to party hop, but parking at some places is just parking near the beach.

[Heather McDonald]

You might as well just go kill yourself. Like, just forget it. You'll never. You'll never. You'll turn around, you'll either break up with whoever you're dating, or before the fireworks hit, just looking for a parking spot. Okay, so one thing is the kid in the Bad Bunny halftime show where he gives a Grammy to TMZ Sports, said it's not the five year old that was detained by ice. I never thought that was the point of that. I thought he was giving it. Cause it looked like a little kid watching it on an old tv. Which would have been too old even for Bad Bunny. If it's supposed to be him when he was young, I don't know why he was watching it on 1978 TV.

[Ian Edwards]

Cause he's not that young. Yeah, he's not that old.

[Heather McDonald]

He's not that old. But that's what I thought. I thought it was more like aspirational. I didn't even go to that part. All the symbolism, whatever. I don't know.

[Ian Edwards]

Somebody I was with said it was Elian Gonzalez. And I was like, that's Cuba. And Elyon is older than Bad Bunny.

[Heather McDonald]

You know my Elyon story?

[Ian Edwards]

You got an Elyon story?

[Heather McDonald]

I have an Elyon story. Elian almost kept me from having a wedding. Yes. Because Peter and my dad, like, literally two weeks before my wedding, got into a political discussion about Elian. And to the point where my dad said, called me into his office, which is a little room in his house, and was just like, listen, I know all the deposits have been made and I was like, dad, I listened to the conversation. You guys, this is where I'm like, people get too crazy about things where they literally think a difference of opinion means a difference in character. And I don't agree with that. I believe people who change their mind, I believe there was many different sides to that story. For anyone that doesn't know, Elian was this horrible story. His mom and he and many other people escaped Cuba and their boat went down and they drowned. And he survived in a tube and these fishermen found him and then they brought him to his relatives where the mom was headed to go. And then it became this whole political thing with Cuba and that Cuba wanted him back with the dad and where is it custody wise? And it was like a big thing. It was a big, awful thing. But he looked like this kid. He was adorable. I think he. But I don't think. Yeah, so. Yes. So there was different stories in different situations, but it was, you know, I was definitely, I didn't turn away from it. I certainly wasn't bored. It was good, you guys. Quince is just the way to go. You want to update your wardrobe, you want to maybe change your whole style. I just had a friend go, I just, I just feel like I'm in a stage in my life where I need to just like start fresh and get a look that works great for me. And I said, please check out Quince. I know that you care about quality and ethical practices of the company and Quince offers all of that. They use the highest quality materials like a hundred percent European linen and organic cotton. Everything is built to hold up season after season. The stitching, the fit, the fabrics, these are pieces that you will reach over and over again. I love their wool coat, which I wear on very cold LA nights. I love their new loungewear set that I just got. I've always loved their silk blouses and cashmere sweaters. Refresh your wardrobe with quince. Go to quince.com juicy scoop for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns. Now available in Canada too. That's Q U I n c e.com juicy to get free shipping and 365 day returns. Quints.com Tusy right now get up to.

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[Heather McDonald]

Okay, so now as of today, which we're recording this On Monday at 11:30 Pacific time, we still don't know where Savannah Guthrie's mother is.

[Ian Edwards]

And explain this story to me like I've.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay, let me. I'm happy that you're asking headlines because I just, I feel like some people don't realize not everyone is also working freelance for the FBI like I am. Okay, so Savannah Guthrie is, you know, been on the Today show. She's very well liked though. She, she does you think of her on the Today show. She's supposed to go to the Olympics. You think of her doing light coffee, funny type of stuff. But she has done hard hitting things. She also interviewed victims of the Epstein situation years ago. So she was one of the first people to tackle some hard subjects. And then it's her mom that gets taken. Now what happened is the mom, this is what I know so far and if I get my facts wrong, I'm sorry you guys, it's a part time job.

[Ian Edwards]

She got no sleep, 72 hours. She's working for the DOJ and the FBI.

[Heather McDonald]

So just give me a minute. Yeah, and. But literally there is no page 6 stupid juicy scoop shit to talk about. And I have Ian here and he's smart and I want to talk about it. Okay, so here we go. So her mom's 84. Last week. Exactly. It was Sunday. It's been one whole week. Now the night before that Saturday, she, her sister and brother in law who live close by in Tucson, Arizona had her come over for dinner and she came in an Uber. Then the brother in law dropped her off at the house and didn't walk her in. Saw her walk into her house. Now she is an 84 year old woman, but she does live alone. She is sufficient enough to live alone, but she's on medication and all that. Then we heard, well, she didn't go to church. And the parish, what I assumed the parish then was like, well this isn't normal because she must be a very devout Christian. Whatever. I just found out yesterday and I hope this is true because who knows what's real news or not. But the church was online. So I'm like, how much was she giving on Zell every time on this online that you would be like, why isn't she here? I'm Catholic. And even if some old lady didn't show up every Sunday, Morning. I think they would not realize for like a month. I mean, we are not like, when you stop going, nobody from the Catholic church knocks on your door, calls you.

[Ian Edwards]

Nobody misses your contribution.

[Heather McDonald]

No, they're just like, what? Who?

[Ian Edwards]

Okay, so she wasn't here. I didn't know that.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. So this. This was so. I thought that was very strange. There are. There are allegedly things in which this brother in law worked for a company that had something to do. This is all alleged, but pretty like, I think it's true with scrubbing, like Internet stuff years ago involving the Clintons. Okay. Also, there's rumors that when she, Savannah, first found out their mom was missing, she called a senator that she knew in Arizona before going around. Now, the other thing is she's sitting there with her brother who's like a pilot, and the sister who's married to the. The guy who's his last person who saw her. They're not saying he's a suspect, but everybody's kind of drawing like, what's going on? They've gone back to the sister and brother in law's house just recently. They also were seen looking in some manhole in the back of the mother's house. It's just a strangest story of kidnapping this elderly woman who is the daughter. I mean, I do feel, and I'm like, this reminds me of the Shakespearean quote that was actually my quote when I graduated from high school.

[Ian Edwards]

I know there's a kidnapping. Is there a ransom note?

[Heather McDonald]

There were ransom notes, but then they said the ransom notes weren't real. Then another note came first. They debunked the ones that were sent to tmz that was like, I want bitcoin and this and that.

[Ian Edwards]

Oh, so some of these things they debunked.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes. Then just Saturday night. Oh, I was going to say the quote that Shakespeare said was, all the world's a stage and men and women are mere actors in it. I have never felt that that quote from Shakespeare and what I chose for my high school yearbook is more relevant to this last week of our lives than I have ever seen. Because I am like, this is the weirdest story. And then she doesn't get to go.

[Ian Edwards]

To the Olympics to work the Olympics.

[Heather McDonald]

To work the Olympics. And so who went in her place? This other girl that then did a really weird thing too. She said something like, we are all.

[Ian Edwards]

Could she be responsible?

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, I know I was like, I'm just.

[Ian Edwards]

I'm just throwing stuff.

[Heather McDonald]

People need parts.

[Ian Edwards]

Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

People need jobs.

[Ian Edwards]

You said all the world Is a stage. Right. And all the people are just somebody needed to.

[Heather McDonald]

She said a weird thing where she's like, we are praying for Savannah. We are your family. We are legion. And someone's like, legion? What the hell does that mean? So the first time that they sat down and Savannah talked about it, she said, our mother is kind. She is full of knowledge. Just talk to her and you'll know that she said something like that. And then someone pulled up the exact same line that was in Silence of the Lambs. Okay, but in doing more research.

[Ian Edwards]

So the mom is in a well somewhere.

[Heather McDonald]

I don't know. So. But in. Right. Cause Silence of the Lambs. But the thing about that is Silence of the Lambs, that script was written working very closely with FBI agents. And those are the things that they do tell people to use when someone's kidnapped to humanize the victim. And then the next thing that she said. So I don't think they stole it from. I think that's FBI training them. And then the other part is she's sitting there, just sitting two days ago, and she's like, we have heard you, and we want to celebrate with our mother. So just, we will pay. Like, we will give you the money. And then people, like, celebrate. Do they think that she is not with us anymore and they just want the body? But then the other part is that you want to give the kidnapper, placate his ego or she.

[Ian Edwards]

Her ego and say, you know, we'll do equal opportunity. Oh, yeah, A woman could be capable of this.

[Heather McDonald]

Women are capable of horrible.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And so, like. Yeah, so then it's like, we will, you know, do whatever you say and get. And make that the ego of the person or they'll screw up. The other thing is, they know who it is, but they're not going to tell us. And they. Because if they do think it's like a family member or somebody close to her. I mean, it could have been an air conditioning guy that came six months ago that got this weird idea in his head, has been working on it with some other, like, Keystone, whatever. Keystone Cops. What do you call it? Like a Bungley burglar. Like, people that are not sophisticated that thought of this weird idea and was like, do you know that the lady who's on the news every day, her mom lives in this house and like, oh, I got an idea. I don't know. It's like. Or it's a really elevated, sophisticated situation that touches on corners of the world and corruption and Epstein files and all that. That we can't even think what does.

[Ian Edwards]

This 84 year this on the second point.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes.

[Ian Edwards]

Like why. Why do you think this 84 year old woman is so linked to.

[Heather McDonald]

I think it's all about Savannah. Savannah the mother, daughter. I think it's all about Savannah.

[Ian Edwards]

What's your suspicions about Savannah that you feel like, like first of all this is. I don't know, I don't believe the lady and just.

[Heather McDonald]

I don't really have a theory anymore. I've changed so many times. First I just thought it was a weird guy that lived down the street that was entitled, that was like, oh my God, you know, I haven't made it in life and I'm gonna nicely kidnap this woman and I'm gonna get bitcoin money from this rich woman that my mom watches every day on the Today show. That's what I first thought. Now I'm like, I know that they do try to keep the like with. In other crimes and stuff where they knew who it was, whether it was Coburger or whatever with the Idaho 4, they knew it was him for a while before they let us know. They had to get all their ducks in a row so that when they do arrest him and they go to trial, they can win. And then they also, if they think it's a family member, if they think it's in a normal case like a husband killing a wife, whatever, they want to not let the person think that they're a suspect so that they kind of get relaxed and might make themselves more clues or like incriminate themselves or whatever.

[Ian Edwards]

So is it, is this what your FBI training?

[Heather McDonald]

That is my FBI training. But my, but my problem is that I don't have, I don't, I wouldn't be, you know, gambling is such a big part. I'm sure there's some sick gambling thing on this. But I don't know what I believe. I don't know what I believe. I don't know what it is I feel for this woman and I have horrible for her family and it's a very bizarre thing and it makes me think. Are more people going to think to kidnap elderly people from, you know. Oh, and also she didn't pay for the subscription for her ring cameras. So they don't have the footage that would like go up to the icloud or whatever and they could find it.

[Ian Edwards]

A ring camera move to be like, hey man, this is why you gotta pay for your subscription.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes, but also there's these people now that are stealing cars and things like in the valley where they can go and they have the technology to turn off the ring cam. Oh, and they also said, people said that night, a couple people were up late at night and their WI fi went out on the street. So they think. So there was some sophistication that came where they turned off something, you know, and then took her out and.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah. So what's up with everybody else's ring cameras on the house says on the street because they should be able to pick up any vehicle that could come to if she lives on a street.

[Heather McDonald]

My understanding is it all went down.

[Ian Edwards]

It all went down.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. There's no video.

[Ian Edwards]

This is an Epstein style.

[Heather McDonald]

That's what I'm saying. So then we just dropped. So they dropped the whole thing. The dog dropped the 300 million things. And I talked about it last week and I was a little bit lighter about it because I was like, well, this is overwhelming. I don't know. I mean, is anyone being arrested to this day? The only person doing any time for all these horrific crimes is, of course, a woman, and she's a piece of shit. But Ghislaine is the only one in prison. Okay, so. And people wrote me and they're like, you don't know what you're talking about. Like, it's so much worse than you think. Okay, fine. So then I got sucked in and oh my God, they are right. It is so much worse.

[Ian Edwards]

So tell me what you know. I've been watching some things, but tell me what you know, because that's not being talked about on mainstream media.

[Heather McDonald]

Nobody will talk about it on mainstream media because it is so bad. And then I'm like, well, why did they drop this to us? So that, you know, hundreds of tiktokers can spend, you know, every day of their lives, and myself included, picking it out and pulling it together and showing that this woman is married to this hedge fund person she once dated, Jeffrey Epstein. She wrote an email saying where her daughter was going to camp and what cabin she was in. Dear Jeffrey, go see it. Soon Yi is writing Jeffrey Epstein, who's married to Woody Allen. Like, you drop this on our lap. Nobody else is getting arrested. I feel like we just worked on a big project and now we found out it doesn't go towards our final grade. Like, fuck you. Like, why are you doing that? Or is the bigger picture. We're gonna dump it on your lap. You're gonna see how sick the world is. You're gonna see how it's run. You're gonna figure it out and nothing's gonna get done. And then therefore you'll give up and know that we're powerless.

[Ian Edwards]

That'll be a big relief to the people in power. If nothing like, oh, now, now we really can get away with stuff because they didn't do anything. But the reason why they didn't do anything, because we're the people that could do anything and we're not gonna do anything about it, right? If we're not gonna go afraid of all this time now, we could just do stuff.

[Heather McDonald]

Exactly. That's why I think they dropped it. I'm like, so you had all this and the only person you got was the girl that was procuring other women. And I know she did horrible things. And girls, you know, under 18, definitely kids to go do this stuff. She's the only one in prison, not any of these people that were actually going and doing the sick stuff. And then in going deeper, it's not like this was the only sick ring that was happening. There's been stories and everything that's been going on for decades, but people don't want to hear it. And they want to think, oh, well, I'll tell you right now, Pizzagate is real. It's 100 real.

[Ian Edwards]

Remember the pizza gate because. Because pizza is a.

[Heather McDonald]

Is in it 1,000 times.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah, pizza is.

[Heather McDonald]

And I have never these emails and they're the code words. Cheese is girl, pasta is young, boy. Pizza, pizza, pizza. Like, oh, we had a great shipment.

[Ian Edwards]

Terrible codes. Like, if you have a code, you ain't supposed to be able to break it. Like, everybody knows what the, what it is.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, I do feel bad for the, the few people that like, are like, well, don't suck me into this. Because I was excited about my wood burning pizza oven back in 2008 when I got my Tuscan house in Calabasas like that. I really was just saying I liked making my own pizza. I just don't know why anybody would email about pizza. Like, my whole life I've never emailed about pizza. And why doesn't someone just pick up a phone like if I'm doing some sick shit? And even now I'm like, you'll die when I tell you what someone told me. And they're like, what? And I'm like, call me.

[Ian Edwards]

Right?

[Heather McDonald]

I'm not like, I've learned my. Yeah, let's not, let's not even text. Like, you know, get on your burner.

[Ian Edwards]

Phone and turn on some music.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, this is just.

[Ian Edwards]

Talk to me. Turn on your stereo and talk to me. Over the phone and we'll yell over the Bad Bunny album, what this thing is. You can't tell me. It's wild. Like, I've been, like, watching stuff for a while, and when you just said about nobody's doing anything. There's so many documentaries that expose people that I've watched over the years or just, like, how bad certain segments of politics is. And nothing gets done after. It's just a documentary gets made. And we, like, I knew it.

[Heather McDonald]

And everyone's outraged for six to seven days, Right? And then there's a new one.

[Ian Edwards]

There's a new one. And then no one gives a.

[Heather McDonald]

About Tiger King, do they?

[Ian Edwards]

Right.

[Heather McDonald]

Or that girl riding her bike around. Remember that. That time of COVID Don't you remember the Tiger King story with Tiger King? Yeah, but, like, that was such a big thing. Everyone's talking about, like, oh, you know, who was keeping the tigers. And. And this guy that was supposedly murdered. And then it's like, yeah, that's the thing. That's like, what? Like, we were. There were aliens and then there were drones in New Jersey and we just.

[Ian Edwards]

Started to get aliens.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, yeah. Like, we just have to just. And it's this constant. And then you're like, I guess this is it. Like, I don't know. It's. It's insane. And I do feel like. Because I was like, well, why did they make this available to everybody? Everybody can go to this justice.gov thing and look at everything if you want. Now it's all black. Like, a lot of it is black.

[Ian Edwards]

It's redacted.

[Heather McDonald]

So you're like, okay, so you're protecting this guy, whoever that is.

[Ian Edwards]

What's the site?

[Heather McDonald]

It's like the justice. Whatever government justice. If you just go. Like, I wanna. If you wanna say, hey, what is Jay Z's mention in the Epstein files?

[Ian Edwards]

Okay, what is it?

[Heather McDonald]

It's. They took a report of a young girl who tells a horrible story of being, you know, trafficked by him and other people by him. They name him. But it. There, you know, so then I assume they did or didn't check it out and realize there just wasn't enough there to go and prosecute because it's just her word. Yeah, but I mean, I. I don't know. So there's those kind of things. And then they didn't go to the Grammys, but then they did go to the Super Bowl.

[Ian Edwards]

Super Bowl. Because he books the Super Bowl.

[Heather McDonald]

Right.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And so. And then people want to make all these weird connections and. Yeah. I mean, it's the sled. Listen, I. I don't know, but I'm not in them. You're not in them. Some people are innocently. Innocently just mentioned in them.

[Ian Edwards]

Right.

[Heather McDonald]

And then those get articles. And then you read the articles and you're like, oh, he just wanted free tickets to that person's comedy show. Like, leave them the fuck alone. Like, it wasn't. And.

[Ian Edwards]

But the people that are like, Rogan.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. Like. Like there's over and over and over.

[Ian Edwards]

I feel like he wanted to entrap Rogan.

[Heather McDonald]

Really did. Wait, were there mentions or you're just. You're saying there now.

[Ian Edwards]

Rogan said they. He'd sent him. Like somebody that knew him was trying to.

[Heather McDonald]

Knew Epstein.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah. Was trying to hook Rogan up. But EP Rogan's like, I didn't want to meet that guy.

[Heather McDonald]

Well, I remember the day that I was at Chelsea lately as a writer, and Chelsea came back from her dinner at Epstein's.

[Ian Edwards]

Oh, silly.

[Heather McDonald]

And told us about it. And it was like around 2010. And at the time, pre or post conviction? It was post conviction when he got off of just, you know, his final conviction was very light. It was just soliciting a minor. And then he just had to go to the jail on weekends. Okay. And lived in Palm Beach. And that whole thing was crazy that he got off that much. But, yes, he was convicted, and it was in the news because back then he was a big name as well. So I remember going, isn't that the guy that is a pedo or whatever? And she was like, yeah. She goes, I didn't know that. But she was friendly with Katie Couric because Katie Couric was dating Tom Warner, who is a big producer and owns or still does. I don't know if he owns the Boston baseball team. And they were a couple after her husband passed. And so then Chelsea had a deal with Tom. And so Katie invited her to the dinner. They went to the town home, and she said it was.

[Ian Edwards]

She.

[Heather McDonald]

She said. And right then she said this joke, which I think was a joke. I don't know that she really said it, but she said she sat next to Woody Allen and Soon Yi. And she said, now remind me, how did you two meet? And Woody laughed and whatever. And it is. It's a very dark subject, but it was a funny thing. And also, we thought he was a creep and that he was convicted, but people didn't. I don't think, really understand what that case was about until recent years, you know, until the girls came forward. And told how they lived across the tracks and, you know, were doing this because they were, you know, recruited and desperate and all this other stuff.

[Ian Edwards]

I really didn't know about him until the Pandemic.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Ian Edwards]

Like, when that documentary came on, I think Netflix about it, and. And then he was already in prison.

[Heather McDonald]

I was on a cruise ship that we took a little trip around the Virgin Islands, like a day trip in the Caribbean. And there was this guy who was the guide, and, you know, very good, articulate, you know, black guy, very knowledgeable of the islands and everything. And it was after that, but it would have been before COVID Okay, so it was like 2000, whatever, 18, 19. And he's like, and this is Jeffrey Epstein's island. And you can look that up and everything. And I'm like. He was. I'm like, on the boat with my kids. He was a pad out. And then he's. And I'm like, filming. And he's like, don't. Don't film me even mentioning that. And I go, okay. So, like, I deleted it. And. Because he worked around the island, and at that point, he had not been arrested. Again, he was currently doing that shit in 2000. Whatever. It was 1819. And then Katie Couric wrote about it in her book, got ahead of it. Yes, I went to the party. Yes.

[Ian Edwards]

Does she know? What would she say?

[Heather McDonald]

Of course, she's in the news. She knew what he did. But I think in their defense, in the mainstream media, it was watered down. And his defense was like, he thought these girls were of age and they were not. And then he had the most powerful team defending him.

[Ian Edwards]

It's just so funny that Katie Courage, a news person, didn't investigate it.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean. Yeah, it's pretty hypocritical. I mean, listen. But being like, hey, you're in New York. Would you want to come to this great dinner party? There's going to be a lot of elite people there. And, you know, when people went to that town hall. Yes. It was all the weird art, you know, there's like some pain.

[Ian Edwards]

They're around so many weird people.

[Heather McDonald]

Right.

[Ian Edwards]

Like, this is like. Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And all the people that have been trying to tell us, and they're like, you're crazy. You know, like, they da, da, da, da. They do this, you know.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah. We all thought a lot of people were crazy and wrote them off and probably didn't, like, exorcise them from our lives.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes.

[Ian Edwards]

Like, everybody's, like, had a touch point with a person that we've considered a conspiracy. Theorist.

[Heather McDonald]

I've been accused of it just by talking about it over the last 10 years. Cause I talked about Balenciaga. Because I talked about this. And then I was like, fine, I won't talk about anything. And now I'm like, no, I'm sorry. These people were right, and I was right. And There were these QAnon guys.

[Ian Edwards]

The two QAnon guys might be kind.

[Heather McDonald]

Of right about this shit. They probably were following weird stuff like this for years and put it all together. I don't know. I mean, it is just. We'll move on. But it is really dark. I don't. I honestly don't suggest anybody go do what I've been doing. It's like. It's awful.

[Ian Edwards]

So what were you doing? Did you read it or.

[Heather McDonald]

I watched the work of a lot of other people. And then I did go myself. And if I saw a video that I was like, is this AI. Is this true? Then I would, like, go do my own research.

[Ian Edwards]

Videos, too.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes, Videos from the camera roll. So it's his camera roll. And a lot of it.

[Ian Edwards]

You might see something.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, yeah. If you just go to Tick Tock and just write, like, just, you know, Epstein files, theories, conspiracy, whatever.

[Ian Edwards]

Okay.

[Heather McDonald]

And then people put a lot of things together, but then sometimes I'll see something and I'll go a little deeper, and I'm like, actually, that video is from a whole different thing that somebody picked up to get the views. So I'm not. I'm not someone that says everything I see by these, you know, Internet journalists are true. But literally nobody else is doing anything about it because it's all connected.

[Ian Edwards]

So the mainstream media who are doing. Going through the files. And it's funny. It's like when the DOJ, I think it was a DOJ, dropped the prison video of the 13 hours of when.

[Heather McDonald]

He, quote, unquote, ended his life.

[Ian Edwards]

He ended his life. And they just show people watch that shit.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Ian Edwards]

Like the whole thing. And found out, like, why.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, that it went down for like 60 seconds.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah. Like a minute was missing, like, for people to watch it. I was like, they should get the jobs of the prison guards who didn't watch him that night. Because these people will pick do. They were doing this for free.

[Heather McDonald]

And those two stories are that they were asleep. A lot of people feel that what we saw come out of the prison is not him, that his profile is different. Okay, well, now this is. This was kind of funny. I will give this the dude human report. They said, FBI arrests black rectangle after it appears over 6 million times in the Epstein file because this is what it looks like. They put black squares over all these people. This was another person brought this up, Elle Truthseeker. She remembered an episode from Dr. Phil and where Dr. Phil interviewed a girl named. That went by Kendall about her horrific stories about being on an island and being hunted and the elites and everything. And everything in this episode goes with what we are now seeing in the. Okay, and then this is one of the photos that they think is him. But this. Then people are like, why would he be wearing a dirty shirt like that? I saw a different one where he was like nicely dressed. But other people feel that this is a complete AI video of him with is what appears to be bodyguards in Israel. So they're trying to say he's in Israel and this is him. I don't believe he'd be walking around. I think that someone's dropping this to distract us and get us focused on he's alive or not. Who cares if he's alive? I mean, this like there's so many other people that are. That are guilty of shit.

[Ian Edwards]

I care if he's alive because I want to be. Right.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, okay, all right. Okay, good point. Now this one, Vision for the Blind. This one comes JFK Jr which his show is coming out on Valentine's Day. Ryan Murphy about his love affair with Caroline, which I'm excited to see in 1998. A clip of JFK Jr. On Jay Leno's show where he reads a poem written by 9 year old Monica Lewinsky about being eaten like a slice of pizza. So he goes, oh, someone sent this in to us. Now this could also not be true. Someone could have sent it in to them and those people made it up. That at a time, Monica Lewinsky. And again, this whole thing could be fake. I don't know. But at a time, Monica Lewinsky, as a nine year old wrote a fun kid poem about pizza. And then in this he comes off badly and so does Jay because they're like, oh, it's interesting when someone knows their career path at nine. And again, let's all remind ourselves now that this girl, it was her first job out of College, she was 21 years old and the President of the United States had an affair with her. But you know, but we were all making jokes. I mean, the day that story broke at Kenan, I remember there was a comedian, I forgot her name, but she looked like her. And I was like. And another comedian said to me, like, oh, we gotta get Penny. Her name is Penny. We have to get Penny Wiggins to be Monica right now. And she like got the hat, the beret and was like running around just hoping to get.

[Ian Edwards]

I'm sure SNL did sketches. Everybody did sketches.

[Heather McDonald]

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So he did a sketch on this show that's again someone who remembered from Hustle is the person that was him making like finally making it in Hollywood and he goes and meets the masked people and people are going back and watching Eyes Wide Shut and putting it all together and all this stuff that we just thought was like Illuminati and the triangle and all that kind of like, oh, come on, shut up. Like, it's nothing. Or they're just playing with us. Or Jim Carrey's just joking now. Everyone's like, no, maybe this. I'm like. But then I'm always like, really? So then, like, you finally get to a level of stardom and they're like, come over here. And that's basically what this is.

[Ian Edwards]

You get to a level of stardom and it's all Scientology. You know what I mean? As far as like the crazy part of the Scientology.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. Of what it is. I don't know. And so, like in this sketch, a young guy comes and they're like, okay, we're gonna do this and blackmail you. We're gonna have to. You're gonna have to. We're gonna film you with. I mean, he says it all. We're gonna film you with a minor and use it so that you do what we say. And he literally says everything that's been done. And this was done like 10 years ago.

[Ian Edwards]

I lost track. This is a sketch.

[Heather McDonald]

This was a sketch that he did and put on the whitest kids, you know, sketch show over 10 years ago. And he died two years ago as a young 40 year old. Well, sometimes he accidentally fell.

[Ian Edwards]

He accidentally fell. Well, sometimes I listen to some. And this is years ago. Like, I remember listening to this video on YouTube where this guy says, I was an actor. It's a young actor with a friend of mine. And you know, he invited me to this party. We went to this party and you know, we're young, we're trying to make it. We're in our early 20s and the same type of party, it turned into that. And they wanted them to do some stuff and then sexual. Sexual and blood, like stuff. And he didn't want to do it, but his friend stayed and did it. And he said he left Hollywood after and he never spoke to his friend again. And his friend was like, nah. What he talked about, it wasn't that crazy. And like, you just hear these one off.

[Heather McDonald]

And is the friend successful today in the business?

[Ian Edwards]

I gotta, I gotta. That thing is so far down in my history. But sometimes videos like that'll pop up. So I'll take a listen to this. I'm bored of what I normally listen. I'm bored of listening to past to near death experience videos. Let me check something out. This is a close near death experience in a sense.

[Heather McDonald]

So that's what you like, my favorite thing is, baby that just gets hearing aids for the first time. Oh, I need to listen to, like, 10 of those so that I can get out of this algorithm. Because, you know when they're like, hi, honey. Oh, my God. It's just. That's what I need again.

[Ian Edwards]

Has any of the babies ever taken their earplugs out and just be like, I don't want to hear this?

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, my God. I know. I was like, okay. I mean, there's. Same thing with the Savannah Guthrie mom. Like, I wonder if there's any, like, older women being like, maybe you better call your mother a little more often. Maybe you better come around see me a little. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you better.

[Ian Edwards]

You know, but they just saw her, right? She was coming from her house.

[Heather McDonald]

Well, I think that's why people are suspicious.

[Ian Edwards]

So, like, it's an alibi.

[Heather McDonald]

I don't. Well, I mean, I don't think Savannah's doing anything wrong. I think there's something definitely connected to who she is and what she does as a living.

[Ian Edwards]

So you think somebody's trying to hurt Savannah by making her mom disappear or.

[Heather McDonald]

Doing an elaborate scheme? So anything that she. Maybe she was reporting on something else. Maybe she was gonna come out with her own story or podcast or whatever, and they found out that she was doing it. And this is like. And then once her mother gets returned to her, thanks to the FBI, then she will be like, you know what? I'm just gonna talk about JLo from now on. I'm not.

[Ian Edwards]

You think she'll just dump the story?

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, like, I'm.

[Ian Edwards]

She won't put it out again.

[Heather McDonald]

Maybe that's.

[Ian Edwards]

Cause they'll be like, look at the elaborate scheme.

[Heather McDonald]

I don't know. Or it's a dumb guy or a bad person who just thought that they could get money, and now it's gone on so long. Maybe she's not with us. Maybe they don't know what to do. I don't know.

[Ian Edwards]

So we don't think it's the woman who. Or the reporter who replaced her at the Olympics.

[Heather McDonald]

So definitely not.

[Ian Edwards]

Would definitely.

[Heather McDonald]

If it was a younger. If it was, like, a younger girl, I would be like, oh, this looks highly suspicious. Because I did think that even if.

[Ian Edwards]

The person's older, it might be even more suspicious. I mean, this might be their last chance to go to the Olympics. But jokingly, I'm saying that.

[Heather McDonald]

And then it's the Olympics. Like, I'm like, okay, I'm supposed to also watch the Olympics, the Super Bowl.

[Ian Edwards]

Would you kidnap Somebody to go to the Winter Olympics. That's a kind of a desperate move right there. Like, summer. Yeah. Maybe winter.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, my God. My cousin's in the Olympics right now.

[Ian Edwards]

Get out.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. Charlie McAvoy plays for the Bruins and he's on the hockey team.

[Ian Edwards]

Get out of here.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Ian Edwards]

Oh, congrats.

[Heather McDonald]

He's adorable. He's so great. I hope they win so that I'll have to definitely watch. I always love the ice skating. Always puts me in a good mood. But, yeah, there's certain songs that I hear that I'm like, someone should do an ice skating routine to this song.

[Ian Edwards]

Oh, word. That's funny. I never thought of a song.

[Heather McDonald]

There's a couple songs where I just imagine the girl going, like. And I'm like, oh. And I literally said, can someone ice skate to this song just for me? And just put it on the Internet. Because I'm like, I know exactly what you should be doing. I could choreograph ice skating. I'd like to be an ice. No, I can't skate at all.

[Ian Edwards]

You're the top ice skating choreographer, you know.

[Heather McDonald]

Then long leg out, and then fast, fast, fast. Twirl and do a little dance to catch your breath, then. Okay, so just. I'm sorry to get weird again, but again, flawed logic. This was the weirdest 2014 Oscars. Ellen DeGeneres was the host. So they put this clip together that I remember it. So it's real. This is not AI generated. This actually happened because you might remember, by the way, horrible bit for the Oscars. Why you need to waste any more time? She does this thing like, oh, we've been here so long. I'm going to order pizza. Can we order pizza? Who's gonna contribute to the pizza? And she goes to Harvey Weinstein, and he gives her $200. And then Kevin Spacey contributes. So they're the only two that contributed. Then a guy shows up after a couple more awards with the pizza. Who wants pizza? That's the bit.

[Ian Edwards]

It's.

[Heather McDonald]

I don't know if it's connected, but it's like the Matrix. It's doing tricks on us. It's doing tricks on us. It's so good.

[Ian Edwards]

I think it's all gonna drive us crazy. Maybe that's the plan. Cause don't you feel crazy?

[Heather McDonald]

The plan is to throw away your phone.

[Ian Edwards]

I feel crazy.

[Heather McDonald]

I feel crazy, too. But now I'm like, well, this is kind of like, this is my job. Like, I can't stop it. I cannot stop it. I tried to go to bed last night, I Woke up at 1:33:30. I was like, heather. And then I was dreaming about it. And then I'm just like. I don't think you understand what it's like to be in my brain. It fucking sucks right now. It's not a good time. And then, of course, she, you know, left. And then she was. Now she's looking for a new home. So she's coming back. Whatever. There's just so much more. There's. He had. He had this girl. This girl does a great job. Shannon Hill, something. I'm sorry that her name got cut off, but.

[Ian Edwards]

And she's. And she's on TikTok.

[Heather McDonald]

She's. She's both. I mean, I think this is one.

[Ian Edwards]

Thing is that I'm not on TikTok. And especially now.

[Heather McDonald]

You don't have to give. All this is on Instagram. Okay, people, you don't need to join the TikTok. You can get all these. Most people are in both and they put videos on both. I do. I do most of the same videos on both. Anyway, she let us know there's a girl named Karina Schuliac, who was his girlfriend that he left $10 million to. No, not 10, like 30 million. It was something. He left 10 million to his pilot, 30 million to her while he was in prison. She was the last person that he talked to. He was gonna leave her a $30 million. He was going to marry her. He had a $30 million ring for her, something like that. He paid for her to go to dental school. He met her when she was young. She's Eastern European, because I've heard her talk. She was. There's emails of how he met her through recruitment, recruiting talent is how they say it. And there's. I had Chris Frangella on the show recently. And he goes, yeah, there's a photo of those. A dentist chair at the island. He goes, that's when I'm like. I'm out. Like, you know, like the dentist chairs. Because he. She was learning to be a dentist.

[Ian Edwards]

Who is she practicing on? Who the knows you don't need the chair on an island.

[Heather McDonald]

So she was. He's paid for dental school for her. It goes on and on. Like it goes.

[Ian Edwards]

So where's she at now?

[Heather McDonald]

We don't know.

[Ian Edwards]

Where's the pilot?

[Heather McDonald]

I don't know where the pilot is either.

[Ian Edwards]

Ask the pilot some questions.

[Heather McDonald]

The only person we know where they are is Ghislaine. And who knows what's going to happen.

[Ian Edwards]

To her now, you know, what was weird, like, when they arrested her?

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Ian Edwards]

I was like, why is she here? Like, what informed who. Who gave terrible advice for her if you're a criminal. Right.

[Heather McDonald]

She was living, like in a house in the East Coast. Right. With her. And she had a husband. And she had a husband. She got married. It was so weird.

[Ian Edwards]

She could have been somewhere. She came from Europe or wherever she was.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. Her dad mysteriously died too.

[Ian Edwards]

Right. And then came here, like. And was here. Cause she got arrested, I think, during the pandemic. Right. And it's like, if, you know, the heat is on. Like, that was weird too.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Ian Edwards]

So I don't. Like, just from a criminal mind perspective. That was weird. And I was like, stay out of the country where you're wanting.

[Heather McDonald]

There's so many weird things. There've been so many weird deaths from Anthony Bourdain to, you know. Oh, my God. I just. This one I don't think is weird. This one I just don't. Who was the guy from Full House?

[Ian Edwards]

Full House. Whoa. Yeah. I know you're talking about Saget Bob.

[Heather McDonald]

You know, that was really weird too. But that one, I. That one, I think that one, I think he finished his. Doing standup. You know, you never go to bed early. You can never go to bed early, so you're always on a high. I think that he got dizzy and fainted, but being like an ego man then was like, oh, my God, I'm so embarrassed as like a 60 year old man that I fainted and he didn't realize. 60, you know, like 60 year old man. Like, I don't want people to know I'm not feeling well. And so then I think he just crawled back into bed when he should have gone to the hospital.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah, he probably thought that that's what I think happened. It's still bizarre. That one's been a tough one for me to.

[Heather McDonald]

Because, you know, I fainted on stage. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I faint on stage. And I'm grateful that I fainted on stage because then I went to the doctors and then they checked everything and I was fine. But I'm thinking, like, if I wasn't, or if there was like bleeding on the brain or whatever, then they would have been able to take care of it. But he probably hit his head and then just was like, all right, I'm just gonna go to sleep. That's what I think happens. I don't think anything sinister happened with him. But then people are like, but those Olsen twins, they found a video of them talking about pizza. I'M like, they're five. They can eat pizza. It's like, then I stop it. Then I'm like, this is something. This is too far. This is. Speaking of not great timing, Nick Viall and his wife have a show coming out on Netflix where they land on an island, and it's about relationships where there's big age gaps. So. And nobody knows what age anyone is. So a guy who's, you know, so pursuing a woman who, you know, is really 52, maybe she looks 43, maybe he's 22, but looks 27, and then they date both. The women can be older, the men can be older. There's old men, young women, because them, as a couple, they have a popular podcast. They're 19 or 20 years apart. And so they're. The host. He is much older, and he met her when she was, like, 19 and he was, like, 40. But they are expecting. They're expecting two and three kids because they're pregnant with twins. And so they were a good host for the idea. But I just feel the timing is probably not the best to pursue large age gaps in romance where you get on a plane and hang out on an island with each other. Okay.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah, on an island.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah. Like, Love island might take a hit after this.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. I mean, but, God, this is kind of interesting. So speaking of the Bachelor, the former host of the Bachelor, Chris Harrison, he is back, and he's doing a show about traditional dating. I mean, traditional. A dating show for traditional marriage. And so what do people think? You know, is something wrong with traditional? I'm like, I feel like the Bachelor is still traditional marriage. They still are trying to get married. I guess it means not polyamorous, not big age gaps.

[Ian Edwards]

It's pretty vague, and it looks like. It's pretty vague, and it looks like a 1-800-law commercial that ran during the Super Bowl. Like this. Look at this. This is what you'd see on an injury law commercial. What is this? This guy used to host a legit show. It's wild.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, I think, you know, it's a good idea for him. I think it's been a long enough time that he has been off the radar and, you know, but, you know, he's married for the second time, so traditional marriage. I don't know. Like, I think if. If you're really gonna do that, then you should probably be the person that's, like, still married to original two people.

[Ian Edwards]

I know in a traditional marriage. And it ain't gonna give me shit, and it ain't Even that traditional. It is, but it isn't because I know the origins of it. So. Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Ian Edwards]

And you made it traditional. Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, you're right. Yeah. Nobody thinks to hire me for anything, probably because I talk about shit like this. I don't keep our mouth shut like the rest of everyone else in Hollywood. Here you are. I'll cover this up. This is the funniest sketch. So you do these funny sketches with your roommate, who's also hilarious comedian. What's Paul's last name?

[Ian Edwards]

Elia.

[Heather McDonald]

Eliyah.

[Ian Edwards]

But he just changed recently to Aaliyah, and he told me it was a liar all the time. But he's finding out more about his heritage and what he's saying.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, what is his background? Oh, okay.

[Ian Edwards]

And then. So then it's pronounced a different way.

[Heather McDonald]

So as long as it's not Epstein.

[Ian Edwards]

Five years. I know, right? Five years later, he's correcting me. Like, I'm saying what you told me. And with arrogance, too. Like, with chess. Like, it's Aaliyah. But I was saying a liar for five. We've been making sketches.

[Heather McDonald]

Like, I've had that happen with certain friends that, like, we always called them the casual. Like, let's say it's. Let's say we called it. I'm just thinking of, like, a simple name, Whatever. Elizabeth. And we always called her Liz or Lizzie. And I do have a friend like this, and she's never done this, so. But I'm just thinking of a cut. And then it's like, you're out hanging out with people. What's your name? Elizabeth. And you're like, what are you suddenly now. And. But it is still the name. So it's still the name, but, yeah, it's okay. So how do you think of the. I mean, I know how you think about these crazy things because you have a very unique brain.

[Ian Edwards]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Heather McDonald]

Of comedy that, like, someone just go, oh, my God. So in this sketch, you. It's like you have a roommate who's white, Syrian, and he comes down and he's like, hey, my girlfriend wants to get on the WI Fi. Did you change it? And you're like, yeah, I changed it to Paul's WI Fi. He's like, okay, what's the passcode? And you say, it's, I hate Edward. And he's like, what? And then she's like, babe, what's the password? And he's like, I don't know what to do. I want people to go. Because the ending is so clever.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

So now how did you think of that one.

[Ian Edwards]

I feel like this is, like, we had the idea. Well, I'm always gonna antagonize Paul in the sketch. I'm the nightmare of a roommate.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Ian Edwards]

So I feel like we got on this track where we're gonna do this. We're gonna do this thing, but where I'm gonna change it and put him in a position where. Where it's compromising, where he has to yell the password to the woman upstairs that he's dating. But then, like, Paul came up with the twist at the end. I gotta give him.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, that. They're so funny. They're like, oh, my God. I just. There's so many funny things that we, like, came up with back in the day.

[Ian Edwards]

Oh, yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

By the way, the Waynes are not in the files. I just want you to know that.

[Ian Edwards]

So they were never really in Hollywood. We're not in the files. We were never really in Hollywood.

[Heather McDonald]

No, we never really made it. Okay. How do you feel about Kanye, Bianca? Now he's back saying, I don't feel those awful things that I said in the past. I don't think that slavery is a choice anymore. And she's still in the picture, but now she gets to wear more clothes.

[Ian Edwards]

So he's still dating her. I thought they broke up. I thought they got a divorce.

[Heather McDonald]

I just saw that. That she was on the COVID of Vogue or one of the Vogues. I don't even know. Like, I don't even know. I feel like Kim just, like, does her own thing now, and. But I always wonder, like, I am. I have always been curious about the relationship. I've talked about this a lot over the last couple years, and when she had to walk around in just, like, nylons or no shoes at Disneyland or, like, her nips just, like, her full tit out at, like, a sushi bar, I was like, okay, she must be getting paid, like, a monthly amount to go along with this weird thing. But now she's kind of gone quiet, and she's still in the picture. And I'm like, this is another one. I can't figure out the truth, but I'm shocked that she's still around.

[Ian Edwards]

Do you think she wants the publicity of dating Kanye? They know the cameras are gonna be there. Like, he knows it's a. He's always publicity stunting, and he has somebody to help him out to do it.

[Heather McDonald]

I just kind of think. Yeah, I kind of just think, what? But I was like, I would have thought by now, this many years, we would have learned what the motive was on her part because she was an educated person. She was working for him. But then again, she had some weird family. Like, allegedly her family was like, in the Australian mob or so I don't know. And so then I'm like, what?

[Ian Edwards]

The Australian mob? I swear, it's crazy. And then I was like, not the good day, mate mob. You know, not. And you know, you know, and I respect all mobs, you know what I'm saying?

[Heather McDonald]

But I. But now I'm just like, I don't know what her motivation was. Like, they haven't, you know, she didn't have a kid with them. She's still young enough to get out. We're not seeing her being paraded anyway. I mean, she's probably like close to 30 maybe. And, like, does she hang out with the kids? Like, and when she hangs out. I saw her once at Chateau Marmont with him and she was wearing clothes. So I feel like all those times that she. It's like, okay, now we have to do that. But I always thought it was so weird because it would be like, she'd have to be. Basically be naked and he'd be dressed for like a snowstorm. And I'm like, what is this? Like. And I've heard that, you know, he has bad bo. I'm like, yeah, he's wearing too many layers.

[Ian Edwards]

He's wearing like a sweat thing, like a sauna to go out.

[Heather McDonald]

But I. I still am like, I can't believe we don't have a conclusion. And now that he's like, I'm not insane anymore, then where does that leave her? Like, is she like, okay, good, Or. I think, yeah, I do.

[Ian Edwards]

Well, if he's not insane anymore, everybody's in a good place. He's in a good place. She's definitely in a better place. To lose your insanity is what you want, you know? And he said slavery was no choice.

[Heather McDonald]

He said, now he doesn't. He said, I'm sorry for that. I'm sorry for the anti Semitic stuff.

[Ian Edwards]

And what does he want? Does he want something? Is he.

[Heather McDonald]

He's back performing. He was like, performing in like, Mexico City. And I mean, he can sell out anything, you know.

[Ian Edwards]

He can, right?

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, still can.

[Ian Edwards]

But they won't let him perform in America. I heard. I think it's AG and Live Nation. They book all the major venues, the big ones, the ones that he could do in America, and they refuse, I think, from what I hear, to let him perform at any of them. So he can't do any gigs in America. Just outside of America.

[Heather McDonald]

Mm, that makes sense.

[Ian Edwards]

I'm just trying to Internet sleuth this.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. Like, I don't really understand where they are. And I think she's just, like, enjoying her life. She's a legit, like, actress now, getting these big parts. She failed the bar, which is very hard to pass. I feel like she pro, in my opinion, and I always said this, that she will not get there, which she might want to retake. Kim, she might want to retake the bar. But I also could just see her being like, I don't know why she's torturing herself trying to pass the bar. She gets to play a lawyer on tv. That should be fun. Enough with the outfits.

[Ian Edwards]

What is. Where is she playing a lawyer on.

[Heather McDonald]

This Ryan Murphy show? And I just got picked up for a second season.

[Ian Edwards]

Oh, right. She's been on there a season.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. And it's super ridiculous. It's like high camp. But people like it. And it's like. And she's top billing over, like, Glenn Close and Naomi Watts are in this show. And she is like the star of it. And I watched a little, but I just couldn't get it. It was too ridiculous. She had like, you know, the outfits and everything. And my sister really is a lawyer, so it's just like to watch these people just walking around in these crazy outfits. Like, it's just. But that's what's fun about it. So, Ian, tell me what you're doing. Where can people watch you besides first? Where they could follow you and then if they could see you live anywhere?

[Ian Edwards]

I got a special out. It's on YouTube. It's called Untitled. It's at Ian Edwards, Stand up. It was voted top 10 specials of the year in Vulture.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, my God, that's great.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah. And it was the only one on the list that was like a self release. Everybody else was on a streamer and it was in the LA Times top specials. And I haven't done this yet because I'm lazy, but all the money from the views and Adsense goes to, like, victims of the LA fire. So if somebody has any suggestions of where I can, like, send this money to Spencer Pratt. Spencer Pratt?

[Heather McDonald]

Yes. He's the only one. I can't believe that.

[Ian Edwards]

Who's Spencer Pratt?

[Heather McDonald]

Spencer Pratt is running for mayor and he was a fire victim and he's the one that exposed that nobody got a dime from Fire Aid. Do you know that not one person has gotten a penny from Fire Aid?

[Ian Edwards]

They just gave it to all the charities, to charities.

[Heather McDonald]

And then the charities never gave it to anybody.

[Ian Edwards]

What is California doing? Like, the homeless money?

[Heather McDonald]

The homeless money goes to the charities, and then they help 22 people, and it costs $60 million or something. Every day they expose another fraud. And that's why it doesn't get fixed, because they don't want it to get fixed. If it gets fixed, then the people don't get the millions.

[Ian Edwards]

Who don't get the millions.

[Heather McDonald]

All the charities.

[Ian Edwards]

All the charities and the nonprofits.

[Heather McDonald]

It's just.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah, but this is just like when you're talking about the Epstein files, like, none of this stuff. So that's why I want to give my money to somebody or an organization with low overhead where you can just give them the money. It's not even gonna be that much money, but the more people watch the special, the more money it generates.

[Heather McDonald]

I'm just gonna connect you right now. And yeah, that's what I was saying with the fire aid thing. When I interviewed Spencer, I was like, I thought it was gonna be like, here's $100 million because they said we made 100 million. Remember when everybody got a check during COVID Whether you're rich or poor, everybody got that same $1400 or whatever it was. You didn't get it.

[Ian Edwards]

I didn't want it.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay, so fine. If you could, you could pass it up. So if you're someone that. What I thought would happen was the same thing I thought everybody would get. Let's just to make it easy, everyone got $10,000 from Eaton and from the Palisades.

[Ian Edwards]

Right.

[Heather McDonald]

And. And your business. Someone had a business, somebody worked at the restaurant, whatever, and now they don't have a job, all that. And if for some reason you didn't need it, you could forego it or give it to someone else.

[Ian Edwards]

I just didn't want to have to pay it back. I didn't trust it.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, okay. So anyway, with that particular situation, that's what I thought, and that's what I think people thought was going to happen. And no, it didn't. So, yeah, I think that's why people are, like, not going to trust these things anymore. And I'm sure there's, you know, there are good and legit ones, but. But the amount of things that have come out of, like the fraudulent stuff that, you know, it's so bad.

[Ian Edwards]

We out of control. We are really. This is wild.

[Heather McDonald]

I know, but this is. But I'm excited for. I'm gonna hook you up with Spencer and he will make sure that actual people get it.

[Ian Edwards]

Please. I appreciate that.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, absolutely. That's so awesome. So people can watch that. You're so funny. You're so clever. You had another special prior to that.

[Ian Edwards]

I remember Ian Talk was on Comedy Central.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay.

[Ian Edwards]

And then for sketches and stuff like that and standup clips, come to Ian Edwardscomic on Instagram or like I said, where my special is, there's also clips there. And I'm gonna put up my punchline link with all my shows that you'll be able to find that. Or punch up My bad. Or on my Instagram Ian Edwardscomic. I'll have the links.

[Heather McDonald]

You traveling a lot?

[Ian Edwards]

I'm gonna start doing some dates.

[Heather McDonald]

Cool.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah, yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And you're gonna. And probably you'll do Netflix as a joke.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah, probably Netflix as a joke. So, yeah, look for me at the Netflix as a Joke comedy festival.

[Heather McDonald]

Well, you're so funny.

[Ian Edwards]

Thank you.

[Heather McDonald]

You're still the nice. You haven't changed since you joined the Illuminati. You have not changed at all. It's still nice.

[Ian Edwards]

They won't let me pass level 2. They said I need to. To do some type of thing that I'm not ready to do yet. So I'm just at the entrance.

[Heather McDonald]

What do you think about Cat Williams now? Do you believe everything he said? Remember he was going, he was a truth teller a few years ago, and now with, like, Diddy and everything, it really kind of came true.

[Ian Edwards]

Well, here's the crazy thing, like, and I think Neil has said this to me, Neil Brennan, he said white people are starting to believe everything that black people knew about 10, 15 years ago, because we had this online thing with triangles and the Illuminati and Jay Z and any major artist and all these satanic symbol type things. And we always look at them and then keep it moving and then discuss it here and there. And there's some people more into it than not, but it was always kind of there. So it's just. It's just Katt Williams is like, he's in the culture, so he's talking about it, but he's high profile. So it sounds like Cat was right all the time, but wherever we all got it from was right all the time.

[Heather McDonald]

Well, I remember when we were working on the Kenai Ruane show and I said this recently on Juicy's Couple. That's the first time I ever heard that people believe that we didn't actually go to the moon is when Kenan said. And I still don't. When people go, that's crazy. I just think if we went to the moon, fine. But what we saw was a film reenactment to get America excited.

[Ian Edwards]

At least that.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. The fact that he called the president from the moon and someone saw the.

[Ian Edwards]

Photo, which is crazy and impossible.

[Heather McDonald]

Back then, the guy climbing the tallest whatever building in Taiwan, that just happened on Netflix, he lost WI fi or whatever. He couldn't hear the guy below talking to him when he was on the sky in 2026 in a building. So you're telling me from the moon? They could have. But that was the first time I'd heard of that.

[Ian Edwards]

Instead, a live feed from the moon.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Ian Edwards]

Like a live television broadcast from the moon.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Ian Edwards]

And then somebody said the other day, it's funny that you brought that up. Yeah. Some guy with a redneck voice was like, you mean to tell me, in 1960, something, we rocket blasted up into the atmosphere, landed on a surface that we've never landed on before, and then took off from that surface with no set up there, and came back to Earth. And it sounded so redneck, but I was like, logical.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Ian Edwards]

Like, how do we get back?

[Heather McDonald]

Who was the person taking the photos of him getting out? Yeah, he set it up. What, he set up an iPhone?

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah. When they said.

[Heather McDonald]

And what are you talking about? Like, you know, it was just. Yeah. So that's why I think, when I do think, either A, we never went, or B, we went. But then we reenacted it in a studio. Which is what Keener was saying. Like, no, it was done. He was like, it was done in a studio. And this was like, in 1997.

[Ian Edwards]

And I was like, yeah, shit is wild.

[Heather McDonald]

Shit is wild. And it's juicy, too. Everybody go to heathermcdonald.net to find me and my dates. And Salt Lake City should be up there now. And that's at the. I think it's the 20th and 21st of March anyway. And Netflix is a joke. May 9th. And so much more. Patreon and all the goodies. Bye. Love you.