Comic Rachel Feinstein, D4vd Murder, RHOC

Summary

Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

Episode: Comic Rachel Feinstein, D4vd Murder, RHOC
Date: September 23, 2025
Host: Heather McDonald
Guest: Rachel Feinstein

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Main Theme & Purpose

This episode dives into a series of juicy and sometimes dark pop culture topics, ranging from the shocking crime involving singer D4vd (David) to the latest drama on Real Housewives of Orange County, before shifting gears into a highly relatable, candid, and comedic conversation with comic Rachel Feinstein. Heather and Rachel deliver a mix of breaking scandals, Bravo gossip, and hilarious, honest talk about relationships, family dynamics, and the realities of being a female comic married to a firefighter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The D4vd Murder Case (00:31–10:34)

• Recap of Events: Heather updates listeners on the disturbing crime involving singer D4vd (David):

  • The decomposed body of 15-year-old Celeste Rivas was found in the front trunk of David's Tesla following a foul odor report.
  • Celeste had been missing for over a year; David is now a prime suspect due to their connection and shared matching "Shush" tattoos.
  • David's song "Romantic Homicide" gained new infamy—its music video depicts scenes eerily similar to the real crime.
  • Despite a flood of incriminating social media details and the couple's romantic history, David hasn’t yet been arrested, presumably while authorities await autopsy results for cause/time of death to solidify charges or disprove his alibis.
  • The family has started a GoFundMe for Celeste’s funeral expenses.

• Cultural Observations: Heather reflects on shifting perceptions of missing teens—no longer “runaways,” but potential victims of trafficking. She wonders aloud about the influence of true crime stories on public awareness.

• Pop Culture Crossover: The murder case drives major streaming numbers to David’s music on Spotify (12.1 million streams in one day), a tragic, ironic twist.

  "He had a song called 'Romantic Homicide'... There's a video to it where it's a body being put inside the trunk of a car and being dragged. There is a romantic actress, a girl playing a romantic lead in it, that people feel she sort of resembles Celeste."
  — Heather (06:56)

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2. Real Housewives of Orange County Update (10:34–19:53)

• Old Drama, New Light: The fractious relationship between Gretchen and Tamara is back in the spotlight, rehashing a disturbing on-screen moment from 13–17 years ago involving drunkenness and manipulation (“naked wasted”).
• Reality Stars and Music: Irony abounds when Tamara, who once mocked Housewives for making pop songs, is found to have recorded one herself—complete with rumors of studio hookups.
• Bravo Trends: Heather notices the “friend of” casting tactic—bringing back past Housewives to stir up old drama—is working well for the show's ratings.
• Audience Sentiment: Heather notes that, while some viewers are exhausted by rehashed darkness, others find it richly “juicy” because all the receipts are available for streaming: "I think they will continue to bring back past Housewives as a friend of to stir the pot...I actually think it works." (16:38)

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3. Interview with Rachel Feinstein – Comedy, Family, and Marriage (19:53–end)

Stand-Up to Sitcom Pipeline (20:11–25:51)

• Rachel shares about her new pilot based on her specials, inspired by the recent wave of stand-up-based sitcoms (e.g., Leanne on Netflix).
• They reminisce about the 90s–00s “gold rush” of comedic development deals:

  "You used to need, like, four minutes to have a fucking TV show...Just hurl a million dollars right at your dumb face."
  — Rachel (21:38)

• Discussion about comedic branding, stage names, and the practical logic of alphabetic name changes for showbiz.

Parenting, Gender, and Family Dynamics (28:33–53:43)

• Both women compare raising sons (Heather) and daughters (Rachel), noting profound differences in behavior, communication, and emotional needs.
• Rachel’s 5-year-old daughter, Frankie, gives unsolicited (but accurate) life management advice and demonstrates advanced judgment:

  “Mommy, I think your problem is that you have too many bags.”
  — Rachel (51:16)

• Parenting lessons transcend gender, with both hosts poking fun at the tropes and contradictions of “boy moms” and “girl moms.”
• Rachel jokes about how quickly her daughter adopted the “world-weary” attitude:

  "She sighs a lot. And I'm like, you have to earn a sigh in life!"
  — Rachel (51:44)

Marrying a Firefighter – Relationship Real Talk (53:43–85:03)

• Rachel details the realities and stereotypes of being married to a firefighter, including the fraternity-like behavior at the firehouse and the infamous firemen vs. policemen rivalry.
• She admits her husband is an “accidental feminist” for effortlessly supporting her career and independence, even if he doesn’t express it in woke language.
• Vividly describes contrasting family backgrounds: liberal Jewish mother vs. ultra-traditional Catholic firefighter clan.
• On communication challenges with husbands:

  "Every fight I've ever had with my husband, he has no idea what the fuck I'm talking about. Nothing makes my husband have a good night's sleep like me sobbing."
  — Rachel (31:28)

• Both comics share stories about marital quirks, division of labor, and the negotiation of household roles.
• Rachel recounts how her daughter’s experience at the firehouse has made her overly friendly and entitled with men (“...she thinks that's men in general, you know, because they do that because her dad’s the chief.” — 58:41).

Dating Before Marriage – Tales from the Trenches (62:10–77:28)

• Hilarious confessions about trying to find a husband in pre-app LA:
  • Heather describes joining an expensive “Great Expectations” VHS dating club at 25, receiving hundreds of responses but only weird or ill-suited matches.
  • Both discuss dreadful first dates, the revolution of ghosting and rejection in the swipe-and-text era, and navigating men with peculiar jobs (“cat assassin”).

  “If your job is just...a door to door service where somebody could jump, be able to order their cat dying, like Uber Eats, or some shit. Nope.”
  — Rachel (76:09)

Life as Comics Married to “Low-Compliment” Guys (77:28–101:48)

• Neither woman’s husband gives many verbal compliments.
• Rachel: “He never gives me compliments. You know what he said? He says the material of what I’m wearing. He goes, denim.”
• They reflect that female comics often seek continual affirmation—unlike their partners, who are either content or oblivious.
• Practical advice for happiness: Discussing (not expecting) birthday gifts, accepting each other’s quirks, and sharing the division of labor that makes for lasting partnerships.

  “I think the secret to staying married so long—it's kind of accepting what your partner is and their limitation and what can be changed and what can't. And a big part of what can be changed is your reaction.”
  — Heather (90:56)

Pop Culture, Tradwives, and Social Media Satire (111:16–end)

• Discussion of the online tradwife trend, minimalist “nurturing” YouTube moms, and why neither host buys the spotless, perfect-natured home myth.
• Rachel: “If you have a spotless home and a toddler, I don't believe you. I don't care if you're a stay at home mom. Yeah, I don't believe you.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On True Crime Fascination:

  “It's insane. I hope the family gets their answers...But the fact that he was obsessed with this, wrote a song about romantic homicide, and here a girl that he clearly, in my opinion, had a romantic relationship with...it's just telling on himself.”
  — Heather (10:34)

• On Marrying for Division of Labor:

  “Peter likes to—some of the beautiful traits he has...he had told me that he had taken down like a whole cabinet in his condo himself and like made it more of an open concept kitchen.”
  — Heather (35:15)

• Fatherhood & Gender Observations:

  “Nothing makes my husband have a good night's sleep like me sobbing...He just gets real—yeah. He's out like a light.”
  — Rachel (31:28)

• Dating Disasters:

  “His job is just...euthanasia for cats. I'm sorry, you're a fudgeing cat assassin...if you're a veterinarian, you put him down. If you have a door to door service...”
  — Rachel (76:09)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:31 – D4vd/Celeste Rivas murder update & pop culture impact
• 10:34 – RHOC drama, Gretchen & Tamara, Housewives' pop stardom
• 19:53 – Interview with Rachel Feinstein begins
  • 20:11 – Sitcoms based on comics' lives
  • 28:33 – Parenting: boys vs girls, naming kids
  • 29:08–53:43 – Family roles, communication, marriage real talk
  • 53:43 – Stereotypes and realities of firefighter spouses
  • 62:10 – Old school dating stories, Great Expectations VHS club
  • 85:03 – Relationship quirks, houses and gift giving
  • 111:16 – Tradwife movement & the facade of online perfection

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Language & Tone

Heather and Rachel keep the conversation fast-paced, irreverent, and rich with both sarcasm and warmth. Their humor is honest, self-deprecating, and sometimes biting, blending pop culture criticism with deep relatability about marriage, motherhood, and career in comedy.

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Conclusion

This episode is essential “Juicy Scoop:” pop culture scandal, reality TV dissection, and a breezy, smart, and laugh-out-loud funny conversation that doubles as a therapy session for anyone navigating family life or the modern dating scene.
Listeners walk away feeling seen, laughing—and with zero illusions about the reality behind Instagram-perfect lives and put-together marriages.

Transcript

[Heather McDonald]

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[Rachel Feinstein]

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[Heather McDonald]

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[Rachel Feinstein]

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[Heather McDonald]

Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. All right, we have some juicy update on this crazy crime that happened with the singer David. I talked about this last week. So there is this 20 year old singer named David. He has some hits. He was on tour and his Tesla was found because there was a very bad smell coming from it. So it got towed and in it, in the front trunk of the Tesla, they found a very decomposed body. That person we now know is was a missing teen. She's been missing since 24 over a year. She was only 15. Her name is Celeste Rivas. And they connected it to David cause it was his car that was registered to him. He has canceled his tour dates. He is supposedly cooperating with the authorities on this. Her family is from Lake Elsinore. There was a vigil for her. The body was so decomposed, it was only 77 pounds. And they don't know what she has, what caused her death. Being that it was such a decomposed body. That's going to take some time, I think, for the autopsy to figure out. Maybe that's why they're waiting to officially arrest him. Maybe they're trying to figure out when she died and if in fact his alibi would stick. Maybe he was in Europe or something for two months and it would make, he would, it would be impossible for him to do this. They were by all accounts a couple. It sounds like there is a teacher that has spoken to his classroom and is doing interviews that he actually taught them, had each of them in his classroom, I think at one point, but certainly knew her. And he's telling his class like, beware. This girl went missing. Now her body has been found. She got involved with a man that was older than she, who she met on the Internet, on social media. So it was sort of like a lesson to his class to be so careful. People are very confused to where her parents are in all of this or her family. You know, before we'd always hear about trafficking with teenagers. There was a time many years ago, decades ago, when a young teen girl would go missing and they were just called runaways. Like, oh, they just ran away. They just ran off with a boyfriend or they hated their parents, and hopefully we'll find them. But it wasn't like this person is missing either, you know, kidnapped, trafficked, dead. They went on their own volition or whatever. So I don't know if that was the case, but the parents or the family did say she was missing, so she was reported missing. They share a tattoo of the exact same thing on the same inside of the middle finger named Shush. So supposedly they met when she was only 13. So that would have made him 17, maybe 18. He's only 20 now. And this is where it gets crazy. He had a song called. The song is called Romantic Homicide came out on his 2023 album. And there's a video to it where it's a body being put inside the trunk of a car and being dragged. There is a romantic actress, a girl playing a romantic lead knit, that people feel she sort of resembles Celeste. There is. He has a bloody shirt on him. He was selling shirts from the video. His. His merch had these, like, bloody shirts where it's like handprints of blood on a white shirt that you could buy. Okay, Juicy scoopers. I want to talk to you about romance on Audible because there are some weeks that are just harder than others that really call for a true escape. And that's why I want to talk to you guys about romance on Audible. I love listening to these audiobooks about romance. It just gets me out of my daily life. And it's just a great way to also get tasks done. Whether you're, like, working out in one of those new weight fests that everybody's doing and you want to go that extra mile and get back in the groove, this makes you walk longer because you're actually listening to a full romantic. Well, for me, I like rom com more. But there's all different kinds. There's thrillers, there's fantasy. There's different eras in history that you can just escape to. And it's all of the romantic sense, which, as you know, if you're like me, you just love that. And it's really just fun just to hear the story in your ears as you walk around. Whether you're, like, getting ready for a date, maybe you need a little inspiration. Maybe it's been a minute since you've been out there. Maybe you're in a relationship and you need to get those juices flowing again to get excited to know that you actually do have someone to come home to. And maybe you want to tell them about this romantic novel that you were listening to this whole time that you were listening to this great audiobook that just got you thinking what this life would be like. And I think in this world we sometimes forget that it's really important to go with an audiobook because you need to get your mind in a whole different space. And then what's also really fun is when I come back to the book or when I'm thinking about the audiobook, I'm like remembering what I was doing while I was listening to it because I'm multitasking. I'm getting this great way to get my mind off of stressful things because I'm entering this whole different world. But I'm actually doing laundry, organizing my makeup drawer, trying to get rid of some clothes that I haven't worn in a year. I love doing that. And then by listening to something that has nothing to relate to that you actually, I think, become more productive. The audiobook that I'm listening to right now is called Rich Girl Summer by Lily Chu. And this is such a juicy scoop, Heather McDonald type of book. Because I'm not ready for it to be the end of summer. I'm really not. And I just love anything that just takes me to rich people, lakes, champagne and romance. And this book has it all along with family secrets. There is this girl, Valerie, and she has this. She's an event planner. And her very wealthy client gives her this proposition to say. He says, come to the lake for the summer and pretend to be my long lost daughter, because I need you to figure out some. Some weird stuff that's going on in my family. And the only other person that knows her true identity is this guy Nico. And there's major chemistry. And what I kind of love is when you're listening to, is to. We're hearing both of their voices. So it's all. It's. It's better than just a person just reading the novel themselves. And then he said. And then I. And then she said, no, we have a person playing Valerie and we have the person playing Nico. And they are. I found out they are real husband and wife in real life. So they've got the chemistry. They're the ones who are narrating this, like, love story. And so there's that going on and then there's like some really funny parts. And. And I'm always like, very intrigued by stories where someone just goes to a whole nother place that they don't know anybody and they're really pretending to be somebody else. I've always kind of fantasized about doing that myself. I've always really enjoyed movies and books that are about that where someone, a girl just has to pick up and go to a whole different place. And I like this kind of like weird deception thing that's happening and, and I love that there's such great romance. It's a really great book. I know that you guys will love it, but there's so many to choose from. I like rich people falling in love. I like summer. I like warm weather. That's what I chose. But like I said, if you want to get more into like a whole different era or history or more of like, you know, a whole nother fantastical world, they all are there too. And I just think it's such a healthy way to put our minds off of our heads and into a whole nother world. 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[Heather McDonald]

Of course people are very curious about it. This guy has said about it, showed it, talked about it, sang about it, has the tattoo, everything. And so people are like, why is he not being arrested? And the only thing I can think of is that they need to know. They need more time to figure out when in fact her life ended and how. And they just really want to make sure before they arrest him that they definitely, that he is definitely the one. Could he have had someone else do? It was maybe there was, you know, they were romantic For a while. And then somebody in his entourage became involved with her. And maybe that person is the one that in fact did it. In case he's telling that, we don't know. But the fact that he was obsessed with this, wrote a song about romantic homicide, and here a girl that he clearly, in my opinion, had a romantic relationship with, though that is quite controversial being that he was in fact over 18 and she was a child that obviously wouldn't have been great for his career if it'd come out, you know, yes, Elvis Presley was, you know, over 18, dating Priscilla Presley, but that was, you know, 60 years ago, and that it does not fly today. So because of the interest in him and his song and all the connections and how it's basically he's just telling on himself. According to this, David earned his biggest streaming day of all time on Spotify on September 21st with 12.1 million streams. Just that particular day. So it. It's insane. And I hope the family gets their answers. Supposedly, a spokesperson for the family has started a GoFundMe, I assume to pay for her funeral costs. Last I checked, it was. The goal was 20,000. I'm sure they've gotten to it by then, but we have yet to hear from, like, the actual parents and where, how long they were really concerned if they know anything about the relationship that she was having with this singer, how they met, where the tattoo happened from, of course, who did the tattoo. I'm curious about that, since you have to be 18 to have a tattoo. And clearly she wasn't. There's so many questions. So that is really what everyone is talking about. Okay, little update on Real Housewives OC Before I get to my hilarious interview with the very funny comedian Rachel Feinstein, I just want to cover this. So in the war between Gretchen and Tamara and bringing up the past, as we've spoken before, there was a very disturbing episode 13 years ago, or 17 years ago, I think, in which Tamara is seen with her adult son who was 22 at the time. Let's get Gretchen, who is with a older man who was her fiance, who has since passed. Let's get her naked waisted. So she does something she regrets. And they film it all. They show him going in the bathroom with her and trying to kiss her. And it's all on Mike. And it's all available for you to watch on Peacock today. That gets out there, she says, I should have gone to the hospital. She tells Katie. Katie said that she went to the hospital. Then she said, I said I should have gone to the hospital, but I didn't. So it's a case of woulda, coulda, shoulda. Is Gretchen a liar? Is. You know, what's Tamara trying. Is Tamara trying to catch her in a lie to, you know, get the heat off of her for what she did 17 years ago, which I'm sure she wouldn't do today? And it's very inappropriate. Then we find out that Tamara, I guess, tried to be one of those Real Housewives that had a song during the no hate campaign of 2008, in which there was a whole campaign of wanting to make it legal that gay couples could get married. And so you would do this, like, photo shoot. A lot of people did it. And so she was gonna do a no hate. Cause it was Prop 8 campaign. And so Gretchen says in the episode, oh, she tried to be a singer. I have four songs. But Tamara, who's made fun of Real Housewives, pop singers, actually has a song too, and they call Slade, and then Slade on a speaker, you know, on a FaceTime, says, oh, you want the song? Or do you want. When it was recorded when she was having sex with this boy band guy? This guy was in a 90s boy band that supposedly Tamara got with while recording this song. And while they were being romantic, it was. The recording in the studio was still going on from when she tried to sing this song. And this was met 13 years ago. And this guy is married, and he was married then, or at least with his now wife. And, you know, she. Tamra denied it, and she was either with Simon or just starting to date Eddie, but it was before she was married to Eddie. And so this all comes out, and it isn't really boating. Well, with the audience. The audience is like, why is it that when we bring back an old cast member, for whatever reason, it's all about hashing up old drama. It happened with, you know, Alexis Bellino a little bit with the boyfriend. And now it's got. Now it's happening with Gretchen and Tamara, and it's just a very interesting thing. It's like every day it kind of shifts in who is really obsessed with whom. Is it Tamara obsessed with Gretchen? Is it Gretchen obsessed with Tamara? Who's digging up the old thing? Who's keeping the skeleton? Who's the skeletons or who's the bone collector? And I don't think the audience really cares, in my opinion, if, in fact, Tamra did do something sexual with this guy 13 years ago. I just don't think anyone cares. Or maybe it was more than that. Let's see, 2008. What year are we in? How many years? I can't even do the math. Anyway, it was a long time ago. Doesn't seem like people care. And so every day the waves shift of who really is the enemy here? And the rest of the episode seemed a little shticky. They had a sleepover. They went to the abbey, and the girls went to the Abbey and they were dancing around. And ever since I heard from gay men and my friends that they actually are over a bunch of straight women going to gay bars, they're like, can we just have one thing? Like, we're not that into it. We're not really that into having the bachelorette parties roll up in here and as if they're going, you know, on a museum trip or something. I don't know. And so I'm like, God, are they even excited to see these housewives come and, like, dance on a table and do this whole thing? So they do that with Gretchen and Emily and Heather. And then the next morning after they have their $15,000 sleepover where they bring in the beds and everything like you would for your little spoiled 12 year old to have a sleepover with, like the canopies in the living room and the candy bar, they drill Gretchen about who pays for what in her household with Slade and why have they not gotten married. And she's put on the spot and. And then, you know, that's sort of uncomfortable and that's gonna all come out. And they were. She was on watch problems live defending herself. So we are watching, as you know, Gretchen Slade came on my show maybe like six weeks ago or so, a month ago, and it was quite juicy. They'd never done my show before, and they are a fascinating couple. And this is all playing out and where it's gonna land and who is on whose team and what's happening. So that's the juice there. And some people are tired of it, and they're like, I'm over this darkness. I'm over bringing up the past. But I feel it's pretty juicy because it's all there for us to go back and watch on Peacock. So Peacock and Bravo must be loving this. And if anything, I think they will continue to bring back past housewives as a friend of to stir the pot. I think they did it with Lexus Bellino. I think they did it with Gretchen, and I think it will continue to happen in the franchise because I actually think it works. Okay, so now don't forget you guys to buy your tickets low ticket alert. November 14th at the Bravicon Weekend. MGM Grand, Brandy, Julie's price guest, All Housewife. Bravo. Fun hilarity happening. Heathermcdonald.net Also, every Wednesday, New brand new Juicy Crimes episodes drop. And right on the Juicy Crimes feed. The link is here below. Please subscribe to that Spread the word. It's also on YouTube. Subscribe to the YouTube and leave a review if you are so inclined. So now with my very funny friend, Rachel Feinstein. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I have a return favorite from the East Coast. Comedian, mother, daughter, wife of a beloved firefighter, Rachel Feinstein. Welcome back to Juicy Scoop.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Thank you. I love it here. Look at this lovely young man. You're gorgeous. I wish for you mountains of ass. You're a marvelous young fella.

[Heather McDonald]

She's talking about my son Drake, who is here producing this episode here. No, thank you for coming out. What brought you out to the east coast besides coming on Juicy Scoop?

[Rachel Feinstein]

I'm working on this pilot that's based on my specials. But we're just in the beginning stages now where the studio is attached, but we're figuring it all out.

[Heather McDonald]

That is very exciting.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Thank you. I'm excited.

[Heather McDonald]

Do you feel inspired that there is another wave of, like, sitcoms based on standup's lives with the success of Leanne on Netflix?

[Rachel Feinstein]

I do. I think Leanne's hysterical.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Like, binge watch everything she does.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, I. I love her as a person, too.

[Rachel Feinstein]

I don't know her personally. She's a delight.

[Heather McDonald]

She's such a delight and so incredibly genuine.

[Rachel Feinstein]

That's what I've heard from everybody.

[Heather McDonald]

She hasn't changed yet. Like, as a mom and a grandmother now just goes to her head. She just becomes like a complete bitch. Yeah. I think it's an interesting time to see, like, what if this wave could come back? Because remember when it was so popular and people were getting development deals that had no reason to get a development deal, but you get a little chunk of money and then the show wouldn't go. But, you know, back when it's like, there's always such a copycat thing. So I remember when, like, you know, Seinfeld hit then and then Everyone Loves Raymond. Those were like, good. But then it was just, it seemed like everybody.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Yes.

[Heather McDonald]

Like, who's our Seinfeld? Oh, I'm, you know, I'm the Boston Polish guy. Let's do a show about a Boston Polish family or whatever. Yeah.

[Rachel Feinstein]

You know, you used to need, like, four minutes to have a fucking TV show. You needed four minutes. Of stand up. You basically just to go on TV and be like, I'm Russian and like, you do the math. I'm like a fun loving shrug. And that would be your entire act. And then they would give you a TV show based on that. So true.

[Heather McDonald]

I always said, like, you had to have like, like, yeah, four minutes on a. On a platter spelling it out.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

That.

[Rachel Feinstein]

It's like, my mom here. My mom's from there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yay. And that was it. Just fucking million. Just hurled a million dollars right at your dumb face. But then you would go on tour and bomb because you had no act.

[Heather McDonald]

I remember there was this girl during that time also we. This same girl started like how I did in la. And so people would say, well, like, how you got to get up every night, you can't in New York, you know, how are you doing this? I'm like, I don't know. But, like, people have approached me and said, I think you have a sitcom in you. Because I. I did. Like, I worked with my parents. I would do my mom's voice. I had these, you know, these brothers that were kind of crazy and inept. I had, you know, all the. I did have all the makings for it. I still do. And. But it's just different now. Now it's, you know, husband, kids, whatever.

[Rachel Feinstein]

But no, even my aunt grew up near your family. And she was like. She was like, oh, the McDonald's, they're very exciting. They are very exciting. She was like, almost angry about it. She's like, they're a fun family. They're fucking interesting. Rachel. Lois said so. Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And I also think, well, this was one of the jokes that this girl had, and I don't know where she is, what she's doing, if she's listening to this, it's her joke, whoever she is. And the joke was, I'm half Irish, half. I don't even know how to say it.

[Rachel Feinstein]

What?

[Heather McDonald]

Okay, Denmark is in Holland, right? So what Danish. Okay, I'm half Irish, half Danish. So that means I get drunk and drive into a windmill and that.

[Rachel Feinstein]

And then she got a show.

[Heather McDonald]

I had.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Every joke I had was like that. By the way, when I started, it was just like, I have ADD and bulimia. So I go into the bathroom and I'm like, what did I come in here for? I don't know. I'm going to the mall. Like, every single thing I read was like. It was like fun, loving, shrug. Sitcom.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Yeah, that's how it used to be. Yeah, I Think, like, thank. I mean, in a way, I'm like, thank God I didn't change my aggressively Jewy name, because that didn't happen to me. And I don't think, like, yeah, Rachel Feinstein, isn't it. Like, it needs to be. Like, I feel like I have a name that doesn't immediately. People don't want. Like, it's not, like, a hot name. I'm going to regret everything I'm saying right now. But, yeah, I mean, Jews were not known for our hot names. I'm sorry. Yeah. Like, there's not a lot of, like, Susan Weintraubs and porn.

[Heather McDonald]

But I feel like back then, I.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Feel like no idea what my point is.

[Heather McDonald]

No. But I do kind of feel like back that I felt that when I would go to the Comedy Store back then, that it was all Jewish comedians, and I felt like, oh, if I had a really funny bar mitzvah bit.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Right.

[Heather McDonald]

Maybe I would get something. Cause it was just like, no, there's.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Plenty of Jews in comedy. I'm only talking about my name. Not, like the most beautiful name. Like, not. Not the most. Like. Yeah, like. Like, people change their names. You know what I mean? Like, Jon Stewart is. I mean, Jon Stewart was like. I don't know. I think it was Jeff Ross, was Jeff Lipschultz, John Stewart. Jeff's a good friend of mine. But I'm not. I'm saying Jeff. John Stewart was, I don't know, Sean Leibowitz or some shit. I don't know what he was, but yeah, right. So I'm saying sometimes they. They kind of. Like, there's just a name that's a little bit. So I'm. I don't think that comedy has a lack of Jews in it.

[Heather McDonald]

No, I think. But I do think a good name is a good name if you're willing to change it. I always remember there was. The story was. There was this comedian named Andrea Abbott, and the story was that wasn't her name, but she changed it so that when people would look for actresses to hire in, like, the SAG AFTRA book, like, there's literally a book, she would be at the top of the list because of having a double A name.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Oh, that's a really good point, though. Those things matter. They do.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, then they did. Now I don't.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Yeah. But, like, sometimes that shit matters. So, yeah. Even when I name my special big guy, which is named after my. Because my husband calls me Big Guy, but I still was thinking A, B, C, like, I'm, you know also I run a little dumb so that is also why I'm thinking of things like that.

[Heather McDonald]

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[Rachel Feinstein]

Yeah, it's easy.

[Heather McDonald]

So, like, you know. Oh, Max knew how to spell his name at, you know, four. I would hope so, Max. I would hope so.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Like.

[Heather McDonald]

If you're into bragging about your kid, think about these things when you give them a hard name with, like, an acc. And, you know. Yeah, two things. Yes.

[Rachel Feinstein]

My daughter's Frankie, so it's not that hard. Well, her real name is Elena Francis Brennan, but we call her Frankie. But she. Yeah, that's not that bad. That's not that hard. Yeah, she can. I think she can swing that. She wants to be a cashier anyway, so she's gonna be fine. Yeah. Her goals aren't too lofty.

[Heather McDonald]

How old is she now?

[Rachel Feinstein]

She's five.

[Heather McDonald]

I love. Okay, so you have a daughter. I. I raised, you know, my stepdaughter as well. But I do identify more if I'm on the spectrum of identity as a boy mom. Because the majority of my years of raising children were just these two boys being crazy. And my husband and I do feel that if I was able to have raised a husband and two sons before I ever started dating, I would have been a beast. I would have known exactly. Nothing would have hurt my feelings. Yeah, I would have known. I know.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Because you know what these animals are up to. I'm just telling you, watch them. You've tracked these. Excuse me, pigs again. You're a marvelous young lady. But, you know, you watch them from the beginning, and you know how they work.

[Heather McDonald]

And I look back and I'm like, I can't believe that I ever thought that a guy was even thinking about this at all.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Like, that's something I do when I was with my husband. Because, you know, when you go back in time and you're like, when. When you go back to your first date and you're like, oh, when you did this, I thought this. And we. My husband wasn't thinking.

[Heather McDonald]

Like, there's no thinking.

[Rachel Feinstein]

There's no inner monologue. If you opened his brain like it was a canister, there'd be, like, a giant's T shirt and, like, a potato inside.

[Heather McDonald]

Like, remember when you were, like, going to prom or whatever with whether you like the guy or not, and you're, like, thinking, I bet he's wondering what my dress is gonna look like and what color it is. Unless he's gay. He was not wondering. Yeah, he was just like, what time do I have to be there? And if I like you, like, I hope we make out or get to.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Finger, you know, I mean, that's my husband in a nutshell. There's no secondary thought ever. There's no second thought. Like, if you. Oh, I'm telling you, if you opened up his head, there would just be, like, a cross and like. Yeah. And like a lighter in it or something.

[Heather McDonald]

I think the big problem is, is that women hype each other up too much. And they constantly are telling each other that you deserve. And you need something, you deserve something better, and kick him to the curb and he doesn't care about you. And so then when you're, like, getting in a fight with your husband, you're like, if this was filmed and the world saw it, they would be like, run for the hills. He's horrible. But if you also just think, he's not a woman.

[Rachel Feinstein]

He's not a woman.

[Heather McDonald]

He's not your girlfriend, he's not your friend, he's not your sister, he's not your mother.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Every fight I've ever had with my husband, he has no idea what the fuck I'm talking about. And usually he gets kind of sleepy in the middle. Cause he just gets kind of fatigued. Nothing makes my husband have a good night's sleep like me sobbing. Like, I'm just crying and he's just, like, just nodding off. Because he truly has no idea what the fuck I'm talking about. What I need, what I want. It's anyone's guess. In his mind, he just gets real. Yeah. He just goes. He's. He's out like a light. When I start weeping, I'm just going.

[Heather McDonald]

To say, you're not going to get your needs met.

[Rachel Feinstein]

No.

[Heather McDonald]

By marrying a man. And I'm marrying a straight man. If you want to have a lavender marriage, I totally see the lavender.

[Rachel Feinstein]

The best phrase ever.

[Heather McDonald]

You haven't heard about a lavender marriage? It's making a comeback.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Oh, I mean, I get it.

[Heather McDonald]

Gay men are sick of other gay men. They're like, I've had enough. They suck. And then women are just like, well, I don't want a straight man that, like, doesn't. You know. So they're like, why don't we go back to, like, the 50s when, like, lavender marriages happened and people were happy? They still fucked enough to have a couple kids.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And then. But then they were, like, best friends. They went antiquing I will say antiquing is amazing.

[Rachel Feinstein]

I will say that when I was. For some reason, When I was dating online, I attracted a lot of gay men. And I. I would have the best banter with them. And then I get so excited because they'd be funny. I'd be like, oh, this he's hilarious.

[Heather McDonald]

So they were gay, but they were still, like, hoping to get married to a woman and hide it or they didn't know.

[Rachel Feinstein]

I didn't. Didn't. I mean, there's. In my mind, there's no way they didn't know, but they weren't admitting it to themselves on some level. But I had so many times where. Cause I get so excited, and I'm such, like, a fucking hopeless, dumb, dumb romantic. And I would just. I would be on the road, and I would go back and forth with these guys on text. And by the end of the weekend, I was just, like, fucking humping every pillow available. I was like, this man is my husband. He's hilarious. He's fucking.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, my God.

[Rachel Feinstein]

I get to the date, and he was like, smart pencil skirt. And I'm like, no fucking man that wants to be inside a woman knows what a pencil skirt is not.

[Heather McDonald]

They would know what a pencil skirt is.

[Rachel Feinstein]

One guy said, smart pencil skirt.

[Heather McDonald]

What do you think if you had to guess? What. Describe what a straight pencil skirt would look like on a woman? I have no idea.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Yeah, you're not supposed to.

[Heather McDonald]

Just try.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Just try.

[Heather McDonald]

For a hundred dollars, Just try. It doesn't go out as much. Okay. Pretty good.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Not bad.

[Heather McDonald]

Where does it. Where does it hit? The leg? Where on the leg does it. Does it. What do you mean? Low?

[Rachel Feinstein]

Like here?

[Heather McDonald]

Halfway? No, not really. It's right under the knee. He guessed mid calf. That's called T length. Get with it.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Yeah, Loser. Yeah, obviously you don't like dick. Whatever. Not cool. I feel disgusting. Disgusting. I'm sorry.

[Heather McDonald]

I always remember, like. I remember thinking, like, there was a. Now, thank God. My husband and I kind of have. We do have our own bathrooms, which has been the greatest thing about this house. But throughout the years, I was like. He has watched me put on my makeup forever. And I'm like, peter, do you think that you could, like, identify what these items are if you had to? Being that we've, like, traveled. You've seen it laying around, which has irritated you, you know, And. And he was like, no. And I'm like, I mean, how can you not, like, know that this is for, like, eyelashes and mascara. And then I thought, but I Don't know how to do anything in the house. I mean, I know what a screwdriver. I would not know how to fix something. I don't.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Oh my God. No. I feel so bad because my daughter is like, how come daddies can fix things but mommies can't fix anything? And I'm like. Because that's, that's true in our home. She's just like, how come daddy knows how to fix all of my toys? And whenever something breaks, you just go ask Daddy. I'm just like such a dumb hole in that way. I'm just like, I don't know. Ask dad. I'm the fun one. All right. But I am the fun one too.

[Heather McDonald]

And I. That's exactly what I was approaching.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Peter likes to some of the beautiful traits he has. I felt like I picked a good match because I found this guy that did everything that I hated to do.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Just blew off and procrastinated about and also didn't know how to do. So right off the bat, he had told me that he had like taken down like a whole cabinet in his condo himself and like made it more of an open concept kitchen.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Yeah. See, that puts me to sleep. But I need it done.

[Heather McDonald]

But I need it done. But I was like. But I was like, yeah. Cause my mom always said, find someone who's handy, you know? Then it was. Cause my dad wasn't. But he was. What was wrong with my dad is he wasn't handy.

[Rachel Feinstein]

But he thought he was.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes. And so then when we moved next door to my parents, my mom was like having a covert relationship with my husband because she would be like, Peter, it's Pam. Bob's going to the VA at 2 o'.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Clock.

[Heather McDonald]

Can you come over here and change these light bulbs? He will. I don't need him going on a flatter and falling off and da da, da. And then I just remember one time I just heard. One time I heard my dad like in the background. We don't need fucking Peter here to fix it. And I was like, yeah, we do. Like, what are you doing, dad? Like, stop with the ego.

[Rachel Feinstein]

My mom does that. My husband, my dad knows because he's a Jew. Like, Jews aren't known for fixing things.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh my God. So my sister married a Jew, Michael Goldstein. Nicest, best husband ever. And I do say that right in front of you.

[Rachel Feinstein]

There's a lot of sweet Jewish husband. But this is known for fixing. But they're.

[Heather McDonald]

My mom always said that too. She was, she would say Jewish husbands, they, they they give the best gifts to their wives. She was so jealous of her friends that was married to Jewish guys. And it's true. My sister always has like a beautiful Todd's new handbag or Bottega or like, he goes to like a real jewelry store.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Yeah, my dad was not like that. But I think there are, like the higher end Jewish people. We were like the kind of. We were a little jacked up, our family. Yeah. Like, we had a car. None of the doors worked on the car. Cause my mom was so My mom, whenever she would go to the mechanic, she would come back and she'd be like, salvatore has an autistic son. And so I'm like, what the fuck does that have to do with our car? And yeah, my mom would just basically spend all our whole college funds at the mechanic. And we would just have the same busted, jacked up car. None of the doors worked. The only door that even would open was the back door. But there was no springs on it. It would just fall and slam shut. So I was dropped off. This should make a lot of sense of why I'm a comedian and one of the many things that went awry in my life. My dad would drop me off at like, high school. And they called the Feinstein barf mobile because it smelled like puke. Cause my brother puked in it so much in vacations, which were the fucking Liz Claiborne Outlet. Cause my mom needed to get, you know, new pumps or whatever. So he would put a broomstick up. That's how he would hold it up. And then we'd all have to climb up because there was no springs out the back door of the car and come back in. Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

So my dad just used a lot of masking tape and like a. A free weight. Like. Like a, you know, one of those big round weights that you would put on like a.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Like that. Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

So there'd always be like, let's put this weight over here with some masking tape. And somehow, I don't know.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Give me an example of one of the things you would use. A free weight is so funny.

[Heather McDonald]

I don't even know. I just remember, like, I can literally see the free weights, like, Matt. And like, him being like, just hold this here. And I was just like, helping with it. And then when I could drive, we would. I was so bad at going and getting what was asked of me from Ace Hardware. Ace Hardware was the store.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Those stories.

[Heather McDonald]

I don't. I always wondered if the guy that owned the Ace Hardware near our house was like, A trust fund, multimillionaire. Because there would be so many people working there. And I was like, how does this place survive? Like, there are so many people helping. But even with all the people helping, I would still go and then come home. My dad be like, that's the wrong thing. And I have to go back to Ace Hardware. Like, this is the wrong. It's a one and a half. Da, da, da, da. Not a one and one fourth quarter. What?

[Rachel Feinstein]

That's like a biblical pilgrimage. To have to go back.

[Heather McDonald]

To go back to Ace Hardware multiple times.

[Rachel Feinstein]

God, heaven.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, it was just.

[Rachel Feinstein]

You don't deserve that. Look at you. You're a fucking flower. You don't deserve to have to make multiple trips to fucking. Yeah, that's like. That's crossing a desert. In biblical times, it was horror. Horrible. Horrible. You don't belong there.

[Heather McDonald]

Look at you. No, I don't. And I.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Sweet Daisy.

[Heather McDonald]

So I. Yeah, I absolutely hate it. And now. And now, like, you know, sometimes I have to wake up, like, early in the morning and just decide, like, shit needs to be put away. Cleaned up.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Whole fucking mood. Oh, my God. That's my whole life. He gets up in this fucking. Real fucking manic hypomanic state, and he's just like, yeah, we gotta start getting shit squared away. I'm gonna get the fuck out of my room. Like, I just came home from Orlando. Like, I'm. I need a break. I did five shows and I just could. My husband just gets up. Just gotta start cracking away. When I left, that's what he was doing. That's why I was telling you. He's like, yeah, we gotta. You know, we need. We need a gondola. And he says it in the dumbest way where I'm like, maybe we do, but whatever. You're gonna end up a gondola.

[Heather McDonald]

Like a boat.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Like, no, not a gondola.

[Heather McDonald]

Sorry.

[Rachel Feinstein]

I'm so dumb. What's the other one? That. No, I'm asking the man in the room. This is so stupid.

[Heather McDonald]

What?

[Rachel Feinstein]

I get it mixed up with the.

[Heather McDonald]

I imagine at your house in New York with, like, an Italian gondola.

[Rachel Feinstein]

What's an over. God, I'm stupid.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, I know you. A gazebo.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Not a gazebo. It's like. It's like a. It goes off the back of your house and it's like a piece of something that you go in the shade and you relax under.

[Heather McDonald]

Like it's a gazebo.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Maybe it's a gazebo, but there's another word.

[Heather McDonald]

No, but I know what, you eat a vernander?

[Rachel Feinstein]

Yeah, Veranda kind of thing. Okay. But whatever it was whatever the word is, my husband sound even dumber than I sound right now saying it somehow. He was like, oh, we need a fucking veranda. And I'm like, no, we don't, because you're going to bring four firemen over here and they're going to just paint fucking Jordan Peterson blowing the founding fathers on top of this veranda. Like, just give me a beat and let me find something nice. So he just wants to explode everything and build everything. And then he would. But he would just make things heinous. He would just paint, like a giant. Our house would look like a commemorative coin shop if he and the fireman designed it. And I'm like, I need five minutes so that it's not heinous, you know? But he just gets up and it's like he wants to just fucking get cracking away.

[Heather McDonald]

I know.

[Rachel Feinstein]

I can't relate. He likes to put together furniture and stuff. I'm like.

[Heather McDonald]

And I'm like, you don't realize. Like, yeah, okay, maybe I left like a purse or a pump downstairs or a shoe or whatever. I'm like, but everywhere I walk is like a rogue screwdriver. A what are you? A screwdriver that makes. That's electric. There's always like just one glove, like, on the patio table.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Looks like somebody just gets freshly murdered. Somebody in the house.

[Heather McDonald]

Like, it's just like. I'm like, I could just walk around with, like a basket, like a giant shoes. Like, just. And so I'm like, so now since you, like, fricking Woke up at 4:30am for some weird reason, now we all have to suffer.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Every time my husband gets in this mood, I'm just like, were you molested? I say that to him with everything. Because when he starts hammering me with his OCD shit, I'm like, who hurt you? Was it a priest or a family friend? I'm not doing this with you right now. I need two fucking more hours. I had a late show last night.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, I know it just does not work.

[Rachel Feinstein]

I perform for drunk twats.

[Heather McDonald]

No. Sometimes he'll start. And I'm like, what's good is I got to a place where I just would go. Now I go, I can't talk about this because in an hour and a half, I have to record. Yes, I have to record. I have to be a funny delight. And you're stressing me out. And you're like, I don't want to talk about Curtains or whatever right now, you know, and so we always say that. But I will say with my sons. So I think it's great that he puts them to work. What's the point of having a 65 and a 63 human that came out of your crotch if they can't do shit for you?

[Rachel Feinstein]

I'm in it. Yes.

[Heather McDonald]

So it's like I'm all for like ordering them around. However, they still are my babies and I do feel like sometimes so the thing that makes my husband go crazy is. Hands in your pockets. Get your hands out of your pockets. So he'll be explaining something of what he wants them to do and they just inadvertently have put their hands in their pockets and he's like, why are you putting your hands in your pockets? Why are you putting your hands. And I'm like, oh my God. So then one time drink was like, I'm like, what are you doing, Drake? And he goes, oh, I'm just looking for pants that don't have pockets. I don't want to trigger dad next time we're working. I'm like, oh my God, this is so hilarious.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Did you tell your husband that? Did he feel so bad?

[Heather McDonald]

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[Rachel Feinstein]

Yeah, I never knew that even fell under the umbrella of impolite anything. Yeah, I've never heard of this. You can't have hands in your pockets. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you were like, yeah, if you had your phone, if you were on pornhub or something, maybe. But yeah, your hands in your pockets, I didn't even know that was like a polite. A sin in. In polite school. I can't think of any words today. I'm just, oh, my God.

[Heather McDonald]

But I do love your story about how you say your daughter, though she's only five. Cause I love talking about the differences between my friends who raise girls or raising girls and the boys.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Oh, it's not even on the same page.

[Heather McDonald]

Especially when they get older. I mean, at all stages I have, you know, bits in my stuff in my standup when I noticed the differences of when they were younger. And now, of course, it's a whole different thing as they are adults. And the biggest thing is the communication between a girl moment, who's got a girl in high school or college versus us raising boys. And if anybody was to read the text exchange between myself and my sons, you would say, heather, this guy is not that into you. Like, when are you going to get the hint that he, like, it's literally like all these things, you know, I love you, and then it's just like a K or nothing. And I'm like, if it was anybody other than a man that I have birthed, I'd be like, fuck you. Fuck this dude. Like, what? What do you want from me? Like, anybody would tell you, blow off this guy. He does not care about you. The opposite with the girls is that the amount of times that a girl, mom's daughter has like ruined a, like a sorority weekend with like my adult friends, like, where the teenager is calling all the time and the girl, what.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Is she like, crying? Drama.

[Heather McDonald]

There's always something. There's just been always something. One time my friend finally did realize that she called her. She said to her daughter, she goes, she goes, carlin. I just, I'm with Heather right now. And she just reminded me, this is the fourth girls trip that you have, like, derailed, derailed. Like, it was like one time was a boyfriend breakup. One time it was like they got caught drinking on the boat. Another time it was like something went wrong at the house. Another time it was like something with her ex husband. Like, I don't know, but it was always related. And the girl is like such a Delight. And they have such a great relationship.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Sure. I've heard it from everybody. I'm waiting because I'm like, I have a five year old and I've heard all the warnings. I mean, at this stage, I understand it way better. So at this stage, for. It's like more fun for me. But I dropped her. But I have all the warnings about when she's a teenager. I'm fucking terrified. But I took her to class. I took her to her nursery school. And I'm sure I'll get shit for saying this, but the girls were playing these very complicated, somewhat manipulative games in the. And like, they had costumes on. The boys were just slamming into each other. And I thought it was a special class. I was like, is this. What. What are those? Why are they here? Like, they were just slamming into each other. That was the whole game. That was just. They slam onto each other and then they stop slamming their bodies against each other. They were like deep emergency morons, in my humble opinion. Okay, So I was like. My friend was explaining to me. She's like, no, that's just the way they are because she has like three little boys and. And they're. They came to stay with me. I was like, oh, bring the whole family over. They were punching each other in the face and stuff. I was like, what's going on? You know, my daughter is just a lot of like, she's judging me. She's. She like, knows she has a lot of opinions about everything. She also gives me tips that I feel like she shouldn't know about my own life, which almost hurts more than the judge.

[Heather McDonald]

What?

[Rachel Feinstein]

Like the other day, she was like. She was just watching me try to get out the door. Like, whenever I have to go somewhere, she watches me get ready. And I could just see. She's just kind of like taking it all apart. My systems and I have no systems. Okay? So when you watch me, it's just a joke. She goes, mommy, I think your problem is that you have too many bags. And I was like, fuck, she's right. Like, she should not know this. She's just like, yeah, you keep starting things. And then there's too many bags started, so you don't know where things are. And then she just goes, ugh. Like, yeah. And then she just kind of walks out. Like, I'm never going to get through to her. I joke. I joke about this on stage, but it's true. She sighs a lot. And I'm like, you have to earn a sigh in life. Like, you could sigh like that when you're going through, like a toxic divorce or something. She just gets up. She's five. What problems does she have? And she's like, oh, God, like, she fell off the bed once. And she still talks about it like it was an old drinking story. She's like, oh, that was crazy that night when I fell off the bed. Like, I don't remember anything after Goodnight Moon. Like, she acts like she's lived this kind of long, sort of boozy, long suffering life. And I'm like, you have no issues. I just serve you food that you reject because it's served on the wrong color plate.

[Heather McDonald]

Right.

[Rachel Feinstein]

But that's what it feels like for me personally. Cause I'm sure I'll get shipped for saying this for my daughter is just like, I feel like I live with this kind of older woman that dissects a lot of what I do all day. And she's hilarious, but, like. And she doesn't mess my shit up really. But she's just way more aware that I was not prepared for this. Like, she is thinking about all of it. Everything.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. And that's what, that's what I think is just so, like, really interesting when you do start to raise a child and it's like you, you understand whether they're girls or boys or whatever, you so much, like, make sense. Like, you do learn a lot as a parent about just society in general. As you're like, raising someone and you're like, oh, my God, why did I, like, like, stress about that? You know? And you're just. And then you try to, like, tell your kid, like, this doesn't matter. High school doesn't matter. Like, you know, just, just, that's like the whole other thing.

[Rachel Feinstein]

I'm just like, I really struggle yet to teach her lesson. Like, I, I. Cause I, I, I come up with these perfect monologues and I'm so proud of myself. Like, just how gently I handled something. But I feel like she doesn't listen to any of that. She kind of dismisses that. She just does what she sees anyway. So that's something I feel like I struggle with. Like, as, you know, as a parent is that I try to, like, I'll try to solve something and give her this lovely monologue, but she's just already made her mind up. You know what I mean?

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So now with your firefighter husband, last time you were on, we kind of like, talked about, like, how you guys fell in love and everything. But I want to know More because I'm going to ask kind of like the uncomfortable question, which is, of course he doesn't cheat, but what do you think about how firefighters have such a bad reputation of being philanderers?

[Rachel Feinstein]

I mean, half of my act is just like mocking firemen. So, I mean, it's not like I feel like that. I feel like the reason now.

[Heather McDonald]

Firemen, police.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Yeah, I feel like half of my crowd is now like, first responder families and like firefighter families. And I feel like I give them a lot of. Like, I give. I just mock the guys all the time, but I. I feel like they don't care. They're a lot like comedians, you know, so, yes, a lot of whatever. Like, they're. They're not. Look, I mean, I say this exact line in my special. I say, imagine if your husband was spending the night with 12 dumbest friends for half your marriage. Like, you think it's good? You think they come back, you know, with better ideas? No, my husband goes for like one 24 hour shift and I'll come home and I'll be like, Vinnie says, you know, the earth's not necessarily round or whatever. He made some, you know, he did his research on that. So, yeah, no, I. I'm not here to like, like, spread the news that they're just the wisest bunch and they're. Whatever. What you would expect if a bunch of guys are spending the night with each other, you know what I'm saying? However, that what does work in my marriage is that they're like comedians because they, you know, they go spend the night at this house for half the week. They can't work on holidays all the time. They say unspeakable things to each other because they sit around at a table, you know, and so he doesn't. Every guy that I've been with has thought it was fun that I do this until I'm really doing it and they're really with me. And it's, you know, I'm missing things and I'm missing weddings and I'm missing stuff, you know, and he's the first guy that doesn't give a shit. He's almost like an accidental feminist. And make make sure, you know, that.

[Heather McDonald]

That could be husband. I just want to say that's a great Instagram name if someone hasn't taken it.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Accidental feminist.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Yeah. Because my husband probably thinks feminists are like Nazis, but he. I'm sure he does. He's probably like, oh, I heard that lady's a feminist down the road. Like, he probably thinks they're fucking Nazis. But he almost is because he doesn't care what I do. Like, I'm on my own. And I think it's because he loves his life as a fireman. Like, they all got plenty of issues. Cause of what they see on the job.

[Heather McDonald]

Right.

[Rachel Feinstein]

And I relate very much and have learned so much from a lot of. Mostly women. Some men that come to my shows that are married to. And they explain things to me, even things that are happening in my own home. Like, I'll joke about him being like extreme ocd and these kind of drills he does with me in the mornings. And they're like, that's cuz he does that at the firehouse. I'm like, oh, okay. Like, so, yeah, they explain things to me.

[Heather McDonald]

My dad was the fire chief in Long Beach, Long Island, New York. And he said his earliest memory, his earliest memory was him being with his dad and the friends and they were giving him alcohol and he was like a toddler. And every time he'd fall, they would like laugh and like give him more and then like, bring Bobby over or whatever. And I was like. And my dad was like, telling us about it. My mom's like, that's absolutely horrible. Like, you're like a baby, you know? And he's just like, no, it was fun. They liked it when I like came by and I'm like, wait, what?

[Rachel Feinstein]

Well, it's almost like, okay. Being in the fire department is a lot. Like, I'm sure I'm gonna start getting shit for some of the shit I say. But the firemen don't generally care. But now that he's chief, I should probably watch my.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, he's the fire chief now.

[Rachel Feinstein]

He's a chief.

[Heather McDonald]

That's sexy.

[Rachel Feinstein]

It is kind of. But yeah, he pisses me off that I'm like, oh, that uniform is kind of cute. Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Rachel Feinstein]

And people salute him. And I'm into all that shit. Yeah, I like a uniform. I like all of that kind of stuff.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Rachel Feinstein]

And then when I come by the firehouse, they treat me better than he treats me because like, it's like the cheese fucking wife, you know, Property of the fire department. And so they like make me whatever snacks I want. That's the other problem with having a girl is that when she comes to the fire or the challenge for me is because she talks to every man now. Cause she grew up in a firehouse and I have to teach her men are bad. Like, I can't get it through to her. I'm like, no, don't talk to them all. You should be suspicious. No, she talks to every guy because she thinks that because she goes by the firehouse, they give her anything she wants. You know, she just sits back in her fucking. She sits, like, where they call things in on the radio, and she sits in this little kind of booth, and they play for her. They have, like, Moana two on. She's like, no, I said one, Next, two. Like, she orders them around and they just, like, bring her sweets all day. So she thinks that's men in general, you know, because they do that because her dad's the. Daddy's the chief.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. How would you know?

[Rachel Feinstein]

So then when we go into, like, an Uber or something, she'd be like, hi, can you put this on for me? Put the Disney soundtrack. And she talks to them like they're just gonna give her everything she wants. And that's the opposite. You want your kid to think. I'm like, no, strangers are bad. She's like, not the guys at the firehouse. Yeah. They put on my movies and my playlist for me, actually. So I'm trying to really get. I try to. I'm trying to get some seed of doubt into her that men are not great. She needs to be suspicious of them at this age, you know? Yeah. Like, I was. My dad used to take me to Orioles games, and I saw that men would piss in that circular trough after that. That's all it took. I was like, I don't trust any of you that you're cool with this. Just piss against some circular.

[Heather McDonald]

Disgusting.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Beth. You are all pigs. After that. I didn't even. I wouldn't look at him for a long time after that. I wonder if we did it on purpose. Do you know what I'm talking about? That little circular bath. Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Wait, where is the bath? What do you mean? In the bathroom.

[Rachel Feinstein]

There's, like a trough in some places. And they, like, not just, like, out urinals, but in. He had to take me in the men's bathroom. Cause I guess my mom wasn't there. So it was like a big circular tub. It was a piss tub. And they would all stand around it and piss, like, towards each other in.

[Heather McDonald]

A strip different than the trough. The p. Trough thing?

[Rachel Feinstein]

Yes. Cause it was circular, which I found more foul.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, my God.

[Rachel Feinstein]

And I saw that and I was like, so you guys are cool with this? You're all disgusted. And that did it for me. But I have to do something to sort of teach my daughter.

[Heather McDonald]

I remember my dad would try to, like, Explain. Because he just loved talking and he would like try to explain, like what's going on, like with whatever, some sports team or some management. And my sister and I would be so bored and be like, you know what? Because like we weren't paying attention. And he'd be like, you know what? Some guy is gonna be really turned off by the fact that you're not interested in this. And I was like, okay, guess what?

[Rachel Feinstein]

It wasn't a problem that you weren't interested in sports.

[Heather McDonald]

That's hilarious. Not a problem, like not. Not an issue. Do you imagine if like women were like pissed off that their husband like didn't know who, you know, Dorinda Medley was from Real Housewives of New York. Like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. How can you not know one of the forefathers of Bravo tv? Like, we would be. They would be like, okay, yeah, because.

[Rachel Feinstein]

If you know that, you don't want to be inside us. That's what I think. Yeah, exactly.

[Heather McDonald]

So I'm like, no, guys don't really care.

[Rachel Feinstein]

They don't know. Yeah, they don't care. I completely agree with that. But your dad. Did you go by the firehouse a lot as a kid?

[Heather McDonald]

No, no, it was my grandpa.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Your grandfather.

[Heather McDonald]

Did you. So my dad wasn't. I met.

[Rachel Feinstein]

No.

[Heather McDonald]

So my dad didn't. Wasn't part of it just the grandpa wasn't. The grandpa was like dead before I was born.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Oh, okay.

[Heather McDonald]

And no, but I, I think it's really cool and like I love like the old fashioned photo that they, that you know, which they had. It was so long ago cuz my dad, his past and he had me at 45. So like this is a really long time ago. But I think it's so, I mean, I think it's, you know, obviously so cool and great and I always just like wonder about, you know, like, you know, it's. If you want to find a guy. I think it's a really easy thing to do if you have like a child or something and then you're like, oh, I just want to bring my son over to see the big fire.

[Rachel Feinstein]

I always think about that. Yeah, like it's such an easy way to do it. Also, people take their kids by the. I'm just out there trying to, you know, think about other sort of. Because I did a lot of my life was just spent trying to find a guy. So taking hot tips, going to steakhouses because I heard men hang out at steakhouses, that kind of shit.

[Heather McDonald]

You too?

[Rachel Feinstein]

I was always looking Because I had to look in a really concentrated way because then it was like, work, work, work. Look for a man. Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, wait, finish your story because then I have a.

[Rachel Feinstein]

No, I want to know what you did.

[Heather McDonald]

I don't have. Okay, I, I, I have like mentioned this on the show before, but it's making a comeback because there's a really funny, like Instagram or TikTok or something where they have found. I guess they're real VHS tapes of video dating from like.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Oh, wait, I saw these. They're amazing.

[Heather McDonald]

They're so funny.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Okay. I love these.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh my God. Okay, so I did real estate, right? And I was doing real estate with my parents and I had some money. Okay. And I did two things without money to find a husband.

[Rachel Feinstein]

What are they?

[Heather McDonald]

The first was eleven hundred dollars. This is so long ago. This is like 28 years ago. Eleven hundred dollars to join Sports Club LA, which was the most fabulous, exciting workout, rich person thing in the heart of like, still open. Probably not. It's probably been bought by somebody else. But this guy that I went to college with told me, heather, if you're looking for a rich, like executive type guy that's like in the industry, you have to join Sports Cavalier. So I did. I remember I didn't even know how to write eleven hundred dollars. Like, I'd never written a check that much in my life to join that. And it had valet parking and I had a pool up there and I would go there like at the end of the day and sometimes get dinner and like the, it had a restaurant with like wine.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Did you meet people? Because my was. I go there, but then I get to my.

[Heather McDonald]

All the time.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Really?

[Heather McDonald]

The director.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Oh my God.

[Heather McDonald]

And like, you know, and I would just go and like do my thing and hope that someone didn't come up to me and say I was doing it wrong, you know, because I didn't know what I was doing and, or that they did. Like, I did, I met, I went on a date with like, I went out with the doctor. I did go on some dates. I met, actually I met like a handful of guys that I dated from there, but nobody was good. So then the next thing I did after that was literally it was on Sepulveda, on the other side of Sepulveda, right around, like, let me think, Santa Monica Boulevard in between. Okay, so this is kind of like around, like Westwood, ucla, like on your way to Century City area. For people that don't know, anyway, was a place called Great Expectations.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And that was like 2500 to join.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Oh, wait, what was a gym called? Great Exposure.

[Heather McDonald]

No, this is the dating service. This is where you do the VHS tapes. Oh, and I was 25 when I joined and it was my 25th birthday.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Did you find the tape?

[Heather McDonald]

I don't know where my tape is. No.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Great Expectations.

[Heather McDonald]

I read somebody had.

[Rachel Feinstein]

I want to see your tape. We gotta find it. I bet you we could find it.

[Heather McDonald]

So anyway, I remember my dad, mom took me out to birthday and I remember exactly what I Wore on my 25th birthday. We went to Joffrey's by the Sea because My birthday is June 14th. Joffrey's like right in Malibu. And I said I'm. I joined this thing because I'm like, I don't want to like wake up at 30 and not be married. I want to. I want to have kids and I want to get married and I want to find like a quality person that's like. I knew I wasn't going to find them at the grounding. So that. The improv.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Because none of those guys were good.

[Rachel Feinstein]

No, nothing grossed me out more than a man with like a headshot. Like I'm.

[Heather McDonald]

And the one. So then I was. So then I was gonna try to go for like the executive. Like I really did want to find like an industry Jewish guy that like was like, oh, look at my. My Funny shiksa and like, let's get her a sitcom. That was my initial goal I made. I met a guy at William at a party who was a William Morris agent. And I went up and gave him my VHS tape of like my one woman show. And we like ended up making out in his office. And then he never sent me out on anything. And I was like, can I get my VHS tape back? Like, it was like awful. So and so I was always thinking like that that would work for me. There was this guy named Joel Gallen. He was a big. I think that's his name. He produced like soul is such a.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Smear of a name.

[Heather McDonald]

Anyway, he produced and I'm not going to say anything bad about him. So I'm going to use the name because there's nothing bad about the story about him, just kind of embarrassing. Anyway, he was like producing Jenny McCarthy's like sketch comedy show. And he was doing like a lot of like. I think he does a lot of stand up specials and stuff. And Jennifer Coolidge was my friend at the time. She's so. And she. And I was like always like looking for like a traditional guy. Like, I was like the traditional Catholic girl at, like, at the Groundlings that just, like, wanted to, like, have a normal life, you know? And then somebody just can me a sitcom, you know? Anyway, and so she calls me and she's like, hey, Heather, I was trying to. This guy, I think he'd be a really good match for you. And, you know, so she sets up the date. So I meet him at the dinner, and right off the bat, he was like. I could tell he was disappointed because he was like, now, this is before you can chuck it every. This is why I have to remind young people, this is before you could just look up someone's Instagram, you know, Google, whatever. She just had to say, there's this girl, she's really funny. I think you'd like her. And she's pretty.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Whatever.

[Heather McDonald]

That's what she probably said. So I meet him for dinner, and he does recognize me from probably a showcase or something.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Maybe that's why he was disappointed.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, he was disappointed. I don't know.

[Rachel Feinstein]

He's probably trying to. He was probably doing something in his head, like, she's hot, but she's in the industry. And I'm worried about that.

[Heather McDonald]

Yes. So. So maybe I don't. But right away, he's like, oh, I think I Like, I've met you or I've seen your stuff or something. And I was like, oh. So we sit down and, like, I could tell, like, he's not interested. No, I would have gone on another date with him because I was like, you know, I wasn't someone to, like, just immediately be like, no way. If I thought they were, like, kind of normal. And then. And then I remember, like, we start talking about the industry, and I'm like, giving ideas and whatever I think is funny or good or whatever. And then he goes, well, who are some funny guys, Male writers that, you know, like, who are some funny writers? I need to hire some funny writers. And I'm like, I asked you for.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Oh.

[Heather McDonald]

I'm like, I'm a writer. But instead of saying that, I was like, oh. And then I just start, like, listing off guys that I think are funny and all that. So then I just remember coming back to my apartment in Santa Monica and Jennifer leaving me a message. Like, on my answer, we seen that. She was like, hey, I talked to Joel. And, you know, it was so basically it was like, a letdown. And I called her, and I'm like, your call was like, every, like, let down from an agent. Like, they're gonna go in a different.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Direction, energy, but they just want to Go in a different direction.

[Heather McDonald]

He thinks you're great. He thinks that you're talented. You know, it just. It wasn't a. It wasn't a match. This wasn't your. This wasn't your job to get anything that you could say. But yeah. So then. So I did this video. Yeah. And they asked me things. And now listen, I would. I don't think I was. I was not. Like, I still have things wrong with my face. And so I was not like a fucking perfect, like, Julia Roberts looking person, but I guess just because I was, like, kind of younger.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

It was besieged with people wanting to meet me. I mean, hundreds. I like, I went. And you're supposed to go in. It's like a library. You're supposed to go in and say, oh, hey, I just want to see, like, does anybody. Is anyone interested in me? And then you can, like, look at their photo. And then if you're interested, you can go in this room and they'll give you their tapes. And you just go through their tapes and you're like, okay, I would like to meet them. Or not. There were so many. I was like, I don't even know where to begin. Like, this is exhausting. It was exhausting. So then I go, can you just, like, direct me? Do you know who these people are? I said to the girl, can you just give me like, five people, like, worth dating? So basically I did. And then if I would get these people that would want to go out with me and I could. I could ignore it or I could give them a reason. And so sometimes I would say, now, at this point, there were so many people to choose from. I was like, okay, let me just find someone Catholic or Christian, because I'm not going to, like, convert, whatever. So then that. Let me just say people. But one time there was this person who didn't go to college, and I just was like, educate. I just clicked like, education. And then they could write like a horrible or nice letter to you, like, pleading their case. And then it would get mailed to you. Like, they didn't know where you're. They. The guy didn't know your address. But then the company would, like, mail you.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Yeah. Because the guy would come make a sweat out of your skin. Yeah, yeah. Can't let the guy know your address.

[Heather McDonald]

I remember, like, I opened the letter and it was just like this super meat. Like, like, now I get them every day, you know, being in this business. But this is before, like, Instagram, girls.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Can'T let go, or girls are needy. I Every I. Every time I go on it, like a bumble date, and I wasn't into the guy, I just, like, wouldn't call him again. But the guys. If I didn't or if the guy blew me off, I would get it right away, and that would be it. I would accept. I'm just. I think we're more prepped as women to just accept, like, a stream of rejection.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Rachel Feinstein]

I would just not. I wouldn't even think I would. I would get hurt, but I would never think to contact him. But when I would go out with a guy and I didn't call him again, I get these long fucking furious. Just like, taking down my entire character. And I'm like, I'm sorry, Burt, but you were fucking. You didn't pay for any of my drinks. And you complained about your ex wife Diane the whole time. And it wasn't exactly fucking walk in the park. I'm sorry. Doesn't mean that I'm some sort of heightened cunt, because I don't want to go out with you twice where you swing your legs. And he was swinging his legs in the chair and fucking complaining about Diane. He had little silly, foolish legs. Yes. And he just kept complaining about Diane. He's like, the thing about Diane, he was fucking just really revved up. And then he was like, fear. And it's like, at the end of the day, I'm not gonna look into your eyes and be like, I don't want to go out with you anymore. I'm just gonna be like, that was great. If they say, let's do it again, I'm like, sure. I'm not. I don't feel like you need to do that. When you're out on the date with somebody, if you're in a long relationship, then you owe somebody an explanation. Other than that, just don't call me. That's it. We went on one date. Whatever.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, I do think that's what's great about texting and all that stuff, is that you can just. Because. So then I could get this. I got this letter and it really did, like, kind of. It just turned. I. That was it. I never went back to the place. It was just like this. First of all, it wasn't, like, working out, and it was too much work. The guys weren't good. I remember I went out with a Mormon guy. That was cute. And I didn't really understand what Mormon was. I thought it was like. Like Protestant, like an off suit of off. Another offshoot of Catholicism. You just didn't believe in Mary and like priest could get married. I didn't really understand. And I just remember he said, no, I. I give 10% of everything I make to the church. Automatically that's part of it. So that was for me, I was like, not interested in that. And then there was. But this guy, the guy that wrote the letter, I just remember it was like this, like reading it on this thing. It was like a card that you could do and like send. And it was just like, you know, I find that people that go to college are some of the most meanest people. Like, you know, the grammar and everything. And I was just like, oh my God. Like, this is just too much. This is like, not even fun. It's too much work. This other guy was an anesthesiologist who was like 38 and tall. And I was like, okay. Like, I was like, oh my God, this could be good. Is this too good to be true? Yes, it was. He was a fucking weirdo. Of course. A 38 year old tall guy with dark hair. When I'm like 27, who's an anesthesiologist and lives in Manhattan beach in a nice house that he owns and is not married. Yeah, there is something weird.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Yeah, there usually is. There was when they're that. And I feel like I always knew. Well, I attracted pretty crazy guys, but I also feel like the ones that I got, I'd be like, I would just. I started to lower my expectations. I would have a friend come over and we would do it together. Like when we would go online. We used to call it Family Tinder, but I just like to have a friend to go through the pictures with and go through it. And my friend found this guy and. And she was like, he's not exactly a veterinarian. I'm like, well, what does he do? And she's like, well, I guess he kind of. He works for like. I don't remember the name of the place, but it was called like Paws of Freedom or something. And basically it was like euthanasia for cats. And I was like, wait, so he's a cat assassin? And so I was like, that's weird if you only kill cats. If you're a veterinarian, lovely. But if your job is just. And so my friend. I don't know if you have a friend like this. She was like a master researcher. Like everybody guy I go out with, I mean, I'm not making this up, Heather. I went out with this one guy, she's like. She was like, okay, I talked to his boss. And I'm like, wait, this is. This is my first date with him. How did you find his boss? She's like, he broke up. His last marriage was with a hidic woman. And he just wasn't as religious with her as her. That was the problem. Like, she found his boss. She has three kids, by the way. She's a public defender herself. She's a lawyer. And this is what she's doing within. She's like, I got it. Talk to his boss. Like, I. Like it was direct order. I'm like, I didn't ask you to do this. But she's, I mean, the best friend in the world that she did this for me. But so my friend was like, okay. So she went and she found all of the reviews of his cat assassinations. And so I guess he would just stop by your house to kill your cat for you. They called it like putting down or whatever. But I'm sorry, you're a fudgeing cat assassin if you're a veterinarian, you put him down. If you have a door to door service where somebody could jump, be able to order their cat dying, like Uber.

[Heather McDonald]

Eats or some shit.

[Rachel Feinstein]

And so one of the fucking comments was that they felt like he was very gentle inside, but they worried that it wasn't great because it made her feel a little uncomfortable as she was saying goodbye to Mittens or whatever the fuck her cat's name was. Because she said the guy was on the lawn with the syringe out. And she was like, he shouldn't have had his syringe out as he was crossing your lawn. It's like he had no shit he had. Cause you were just one of many fucking deliveries.

[Heather McDonald]

Like, how quick does it have to be? Like you couldn't have just brought it in like an old medical bag? Like an old fashioned house call medical bag. Like, that is crazy.

[Rachel Feinstein]

I had a needle cocked and holding it casually as he was crossing the line. And my friend almost went out with this guy and I was like, that's insane. You can't. Because he was probably one of three assassins appointments he had that cat assassin. I'm like, no, that's not something that should be done. Done where somebody stops by your place. No, that has to be done after a lot of, you know, thought and prayer. And it has to be done at the doctor's office, cocked and fucking ready on the lawn. And then he like had. And then he had the fucking nerve to knock on the door and be like, let's talk about what your Cat meant to. You don't give a shit. You're here to kill cats. As briskly as possible.

[Heather McDonald]

Now, you obviously talk a lot about your husband and your family and your ex, and it appears that your husband does not care. Has he ever said, I don't like that bit, or, well, you really kind of got that wrong. Or.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Honestly, the only thing that he got really jealous of was that or upset was because I had a joke about date, that I dated this cop before him, this FBI agent, and there's a little bit of rivalry.

[Heather McDonald]

Firemen and cops hate each other. They don't hate each other. But why do they, like, it's. It's so funny. And they like to say the same thing. Like, I like, they're all that.

[Rachel Feinstein]

They're very similar.

[Heather McDonald]

I know. And they like. So they always like to say, like, that. Well, I think it's almost like the same thing that, like, my dad would say back when he was in the military, like, during the war, he would say that the Air Force, they would be like, oh, the Air Force. Steak and ice cream every night. He was a Marine. Like, they think that they have it easy. So I think, like, there's a lot.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Of that in my comment section because I'll be like, first responder. They'll be like, first responder, my ass. We're the one who secured the scenes, and they do this that. I don't even understand what they're talking about. I'm like, whatever. I don't know. Yeah, but there's, like, a lot of arguments about who secures the scene. It all sounds exhausting to me, personally. Oh, my God. It all seems kind of, like, annoying to have to get out of, so.

[Heather McDonald]

Because you talked about dating a cop. That's so funny.

[Rachel Feinstein]

I know. Now I'm talking about again, because I'm such a dick. But, yeah, like, that. Like, he'll, like. He'll get a little bit weird. He'll, like, bump on that a little bit. But, like, the. The most insane things he does, he doesn't care about at all. Like. Like, we were hooking up once, and he lasted, like, you know, it was pretty quick. It was maybe like three, four minutes, tops. And I. He was like. I was like, come on, Pete. And he's like, that was awful, right? He thought it was hilarious. He's like, yeah, I really kind of phoned that one in. He's like, you could put that in your skit, though. He's like, yeah, you can put it in your talent show, though. Like, I'm just Laying there, like, throbbing with loneliness. And he just is like, hey, high five. You know, good sesh or whatever. And he's like, yeah, donation to the old skit box. Yeah, he doesn't care. He doesn't care.

[Heather McDonald]

The old skit box.

[Rachel Feinstein]

I mean, yeah, he didn't care at all. So I don't know. The things he cares about are surprising, but it's very. It's very few and far between that he cares. And I do think that is one of the fun things about him is that you look, he. What he's thinking about most of the time is fire. He preferred it be inside a flame than a woman. He cares about fire. He doesn't care about the nonsense I'm, you know, pedaling on stage.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rachel Feinstein]

In a way, my special was my, like, was me trying to get my husband to make eye contact with me because I made this entire hour almost, like, about his job. This is more sad that I'm realizing it. It's not like a fun loving thing. But, yeah. And I. It's like. Because then all the top brass of the fire department were at the taping. So it was my way of being like, see me, me that. You know what I mean? Like, pay attention. Because, yeah, I don't think he cares on about much. I think.

[Heather McDonald]

I think it's a very interesting life. I would like to interview. I would love to have, like, a roundtable discussion with female comedians who are currently still married to their husband, which there aren't a lot of us. And what the. And have the husbands all talk about it.

[Rachel Feinstein]

That would be fascinating because also, like, I've asked. When I talk about him to other people. People. But I think for some reason he thinks, like, the stage is different, you know, like, he isn't. Like, when I talk to his family or, like, I back up my point. I'm like, yeah, but your brother said, like that. Yeah, the off.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah, right.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Which is fair. But that'll make him angry if I'm, like, using it to anchor an argument.

[Heather McDonald]

Right.

[Rachel Feinstein]

But if I'm just doing my little skits on stage about some nonsense.

[Heather McDonald]

I've complained about my husband to his mother, and she is. They understand she's the greatest mother in law on earth. I try not to do it because as my sons got older, I thought, how am I gonna feel about, like, Drake's wife calling me when I'm 83 and bitching about him as if I fucked up somehow by raising your husband? And then I realized, I'm sorry, I've had the husband Longer than she had him under the roof. So anything he does wrong is actually. It is my fault. I raised him longer than her. She should be like, what did you do to my. I handed over a perfectly nice guy at 33.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

I mean, why did you make him such a dick? Why did you make him such an asshole?

[Rachel Feinstein]

No, I'm dead wrong for doing that when I've done that. But my husband is really not. He doesn't communicate fucking anything fucking ever. And sometimes it makes me crazy. So I have to, like, make some sort of quilt out of what's actually going on because he won't fucking tell me. His father. I've heard his father give him this advice. He's like, you know, what do you say? He's like, do what you want. Apologize later. I'm like, no, that's not good. Come on. What the fuck? So that's my husband. That's our whole marriage. He doesn't. I don't know what's going on. So, like, when I first met his family, you know, I'm thinking he came with me on the road. He came with me to different crazy situations and shows. I'm thinking, they've heard all about me. No, they hadn't heard anything about me. He brought me for Christmas. I brought 40 presents. Because, first of all, like, I'm. I'm kind of obsessed with Catholic guys. I've only dated Catholic guys. I just love all the. The ceremony of it. I love fucking Catholicism. No, I love it on stage. I like cotton. Sorry. Yeah. But I'm so into Catholics. I tried to steal my friend's communion dress when I was a little girl. Is that what's called for communion?

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, my God. Because it was like a little white dress. I pretended it was my wedding day when I wore that white dress.

[Rachel Feinstein]

So beautiful, that dress. Yeah. I was so jealous. So I was going to his house and I was doing Christmas. Jewish girls are fucking jealous of Christmas.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay?

[Rachel Feinstein]

So we go all out. Like, I'm the one in the family. That's way more of a bigger deal for me than my husband with my daughter. So I brought, like, 40 presents. We get there. They all looked furious. And I thought it was because I was bringing the wrong things or. Cause he was bringing Jewish. I didn't know it was because he didn't tell them he was bringing me at all until five minutes before he got to the house. He was, like, bringing a girl. And they're like, jesus Christ, Pete. What the fuck? We have nothing for her. So I didn't understand all this till later. So I was like interviewing her fan. Like, what was it with Chris? Like, what happened that night? And then they explained to me. Pete didn't tell us until five minutes before you got here. So I'm thinking like, he's met like some celebrities, you know, like he's gone to all these different places with me. They know he's dating a comedian. Like, this guy's barely been outside the archdiocese of fucking Brooklyn. Of course they fucking know about me. They didn't know anything, you know, so there were some completely confused and enraged. So that's, that's what it feels like being married to him is like, nobody knows what's going on. Like, because he doesn't tell anybody anything. You know, my mother in law is intense. He had a very intense. And she's a very like, oh, my son. Like, you know, Right. She would have preferred to marry him, you know, it didn't work out for her.

[Heather McDonald]

But I think it's the same thing. Like, it was like, I thought like, this must be so interesting to people for you to say that you're like dating a comedian or whatever.

[Rachel Feinstein]

He didn't get a shit.

[Heather McDonald]

No, it was the same thing. And then I just remember, like years, just not even that long. I've been married 25 years. So like just a couple years ago, my sister in law was like, oh. I remember like him saying, oh, this girl is just so fun. I'm just gonna marry her. And it was just like, just the confidence of just like. Yeah, like, why wouldn't she say yes? Like, I found her. Like, she's just gonna. This is gonna be a good one for me. And I'm like, not, like, just pick her.

[Rachel Feinstein]

But it is sweet, though. It is sweet. There's something very sweet in that. I just have fun with her is what he's saying. But. Yeah, yeah, but I know what you mean. Like, he. Yeah. My husband never was worried that he wasn't gonna be able to get me. He was just like, yeah. He was basically just like, yeah, I guess I'll settle up here. Like, it was like his time to leave the bar. Yeah, that's how he saw it. Yeah. He's like, what do I owe you? Go ahead and take this one. She's kind of a guess. Yeah, same thing. Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay. The other thing, I love that you do in your act, you do very good voices and characters and I like your whole point of view about the 19, like the early 1950s movie and the way women were portrayed. And I think it is so funny. Of just like, you did this one sketch I saw on your Instagram where. And it's so true. Like, you're at a restaurant with this, with a man, and you, like, about to order, and then the guy's like, just tell the story.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Well, I order. I made my husband do this, too, all the time. We were first dating. I'll start my order, and I make him interrupt me. And by the way, that's a good way for me when I was dating, to decide whether I should. Should go forward with a guy, whether a guy would be fine to be with. So I'll go date.

[Heather McDonald]

Is going to go do a bit with you?

[Rachel Feinstein]

Yes.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Because if they're willing to be humiliated publicly, then they're my guy. Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Okay. So what would you do?

[Rachel Feinstein]

They're willing to go along with my horseshit, you know? So I would just go out to dinner with him, and I'd be like, well, I'll have a big fat pot roast with some taters on the side, and then maybe a macaroni and cheese, too. Well, I'm worth it, aren't? And then I would tell Pete to interrupt me and be like, no, no, no. She'll be having the salad. God damn it. Why would you even think you would order for yourself? You know, like. And then the waiter would go away furious at him. But I always thought it was so funny.

[Heather McDonald]

Like, the waiter would think he was such a rude, like, mean.

[Rachel Feinstein]

What a pig. Yeah, but. And also, I'd make him take me out of places if we have to leave anyways. I'm exhausting, by the way, to date, I'm sure. But we'd be, like, out someplace at a mall or whatever. We'd be in a store that we were going to leave anyways. We'd be in coffee, Costco, and I'd be like, can you pick up my arm like this? Like, that's it. We're leaving right now. I'm like, I don't want to go. It's not fair. I want it to stay for another couple minutes. It's not fair. He's like, that's it. We're done. We're leaving right now. You don't get any more warnings. And I'm like, but it's not fair. I'm just a woman, but I deserve to have fun, too. Let me just stay and do a twirl or whatever. And I just helped it pick my arm up like this. It just pulled me out of the place I loved. I love it when he just picks up.

[Heather McDonald]

Somebody would like look to see if you were doing like the hand signal for like trafficking and like call.

[Rachel Feinstein]

I should have been. Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Then the cop comes and it's the guy used to date. If we were doing if this. If you can do this as one of your episodes of your new sitcom, that's what it has to be. Yeah.

[Rachel Feinstein]

I was never like, I don't know. I mean, now I'm surprised he does it as much now that he is a chief. Like in our area where we live, it's like a lot of firefighter family. Like, nothing could matter less where I live than just being a random Jew comic. I'm just some weird whore that takes Ubers at night. And nothing could matter more than being like the fucking FOIA chief. Like I live in a very, you know, very, very firefighter first responder area, you know, like, so how fun it's. And, and his, my family, they're. They're very different. They're just. Yeah. My mother in law's just always cleaning and it's all about just, you know, China life is all about. Her way of looking at the world is like the outside world is this daunting force that's coming to take everything from your family. And my, my mom way of looking at the world is just like, can I adopt every beige person I see? You know, like, it's just never. Everybody can move in and then it'll fix it, you know, is it comfortable.

[Heather McDonald]

When the in laws get together or is it very rare that they ever do?

[Rachel Feinstein]

I think my mom, I joke about this on stage how being her being so liberal, she's racist. But I think my mom is so excited that I have. She's got a Latina in her family, you know, like, it's like my mom loves my mother in law who's Colombian. So my mom's talking to her. She's just doing like an inner kind of jazzy Latin jig of delight. So she loves it, you know. And my family, like my side of the family, they were like giving toasts about like immigration and stuff at the wedding. I'm like, can you guys shot our wedding stop. Yeah, it's a lot ask. Like a lot of comics were there and like Anthony DeVito was like, I remember when your dad gave that speech about immigration and didn't, you know a toast and didn't mention you or Pete. I'm like, yeah, that was a little weird. That's how I grew up. It was just like all just like black men carrying coffins. And like Steve Biko did Not die in vain. I'm like, it's my bot Mittens. Mitzvah. Can you guys settle down for a fucking second? And his family, very much the extreme other way. They're very super conservative, you know? So, yeah, I feel like it's two extremes and. But my family is so excited.

[Heather McDonald]

Make a perfect sitcom.

[Rachel Feinstein]

There are a lot. Yeah, it's a. It is a crazy. It couldn't be more different. Yeah, they couldn't be more opposite. But I've been always very attracted to. I like super. I like just dusty, fucking, you know, traumatized men. I like dudes, you know, like, just some. I don't like any irony. If I can remember what a guy's wearing, I don't want to remember your outfit, then that means I'm not into you. Does that make sense? Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

No, it doesn't.

[Rachel Feinstein]

I don't want. Sorry. I'm really feel, like, high today. I don't know what's wrong with me. I'm here in my fucking blazer and I'm barely making sense. I mean, if a guy has. A guy's outfit should not be a series of, like, sassy risks. I don't want some stylized man. That's what I mean. Just a normal shirt, normal pants. You should. Shouldn't know about clothes. You shouldn't know what they're called. That's fine.

[Heather McDonald]

What about when you do have to go to something is. Will he wear what you say?

[Rachel Feinstein]

Like, yes, he wears whatever I say. That was when I knew that I wanted to marry him. I said, can I throw out some of the things in your closet? He was like, sure, whatever. Like, he didn't care.

[Heather McDonald]

That's good.

[Rachel Feinstein]

He knows what he doesn't know, you know, I mean, sometimes it extends to, like, he's not exactly emotionally. He's a desert. But, like. Like his friends had lost somebody important in his life, and he's like, well, what do I do? I'm like, well, reach out to him. Like, call him. He's like, what do I say? And I'm like, well, just say you're thinking about him and, you know you're here for. But he really doesn't know. And he's just like. Like, he's shaking. He just hands me the phone to do the text. Cause he doesn't know what to say in any of those moments. Like, he's. Yeah, he has no idea. Like, none. Yeah. So he's not the guy that is gonna soothe me if I'm sad. I have to tell my husband. Your hand should be on My lower back right now. Like, I have to put. I have to adjust. Adjust his body language to my situation.

[Heather McDonald]

I have the exact same thing.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Do you? Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. And I kind of. And again, I finally got to a place where I'm like, I'm just gonna. Like, when people say, what. What's the secret to saying. No one ever asked me that, but if I was to say, what's the secret to staying married so long? It's kind of accepting what your partner is and their limitation and what can be changed and what can't. And a big part of what can be changed is your reaction.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Like, you're not gonna get that. You can go running down the street hysterically crying, and he. He might not get in the car and follow you.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Oh, yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

So now you're down the street, and now you've made it a bigger thing. Like, now you've made it a much bigger thing, and you have to walk back. And while you're walking back, you're like. Like, this is the. Like, what am I doing to myself? Like, I don't know. I just think so much of it is just like.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Like, not personalizing what they don't personalize.

[Heather McDonald]

And. And I don't believe that everything don't. The whole. Don't go to bed angry. I disagree.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Sometimes just go to bed. A new day is a beautiful gift from the universe, and that is every day. There'll be a new day, hopefully. And if. And because there might not be, you shouldn't waste a day.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Yeah. Like our therapists that you can't. And they're not really going to change. It's like, I'm not going to change. I'm. I must be infuriating to live with. I'm shedding debit cards. I left my wallet at the hotel today. I had to use my friend's ID to get through the gate. Yeah. Do you shed debit cards, too?

[Heather McDonald]

Shred.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Shedding debit cards. I just leave them everywhere. I shed them. I like shed debit cards.

[Heather McDonald]

What? Because I don't know where my credit card is right now.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Yeah. Like, on the way in here, I was like, what if I took an Uber? I wouldn't have been allowed on the place. I'd like my wallet at home.

[Heather McDonald]

So, yeah, we. I don't know what happened to my credit card. I know that it's in this house somewhere because I ordered something from TikTok and I took it out of my little wallet, and I remember seeing it somewhere, and I don't remember the rest so we share the same credit card. So I'm like, I prayed to Saint Saint Anthony to find it.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And I was really confident. I was really confident because I went to church for the first time in a while. Finally went to the first Catholic church in this neighborhood. So I was like, oh, my God, I'm definitely gonna find it today. I'm gonna do the St. Anthony prayer. Like, I'm gonna find it because I was just like, dreading. So then I. I told Drake that I can't find the card, but I really don't think it's missing to the point where we have to cancel the whole thing because he uses it too. And it's like on you thinks, you know, like, you know, was he upset about it or.

[Rachel Feinstein]

No, well, he.

[Heather McDonald]

Listen, he is not Mr. Organized. I have brought home checks from the road that he has misplaced. And then I've had to call the venue and say, you, like, you know, we know it hasn't been cashed, just reissue it. So, like, no, he is not. So I have to remind him of that. Like, you're not a perfect person. Like, you have gotten in a car accident too, you know, like, it's not just me hitting the curb for fun. Okay. So anyway, he. So it's just like constant like that. So like, so like, where is. So I just finally said. I go, I have some bad news, you know, And I. And then he was like. Thought it was something, you know, really bad. And I go, I just don't know where this card is, you know? And I'm like. And it's. It turned out it's gonna be fine because we're gonna get a business one or something anyway. But no, I don't like.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Yeah, I lose all of them. I don't know where anything is ever. Yeah, I fuck his life up. And his goal in life is not to get my shit fucking up his shit. Like when he wakes up in the morning because there's some sort of key he has that like opens all the subway doors or whatever. I don't know, it's like some special universal fire chief subway key might have lost it.

[Heather McDonald]

How did you lose it?

[Rachel Feinstein]

I think this is our old place. I think we had. Because now we have just like a, A, A code. But I think we, you know, I, I just. I borrowed the keys and I lost the keys with his. And he's like, that has my universal subway key on.

[Heather McDonald]

He's like, that is a pretty bad mistake.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Oh my God. I. His life up so bad. I must be enraging to be with. Let me just make sure it's very clear her that I am very much half the problem. Like when we went on our honeymoon, I don't even realize that I'm being offensive sometimes. Like, I was, I was arguing with him about the like giving away the window seat, you know, on a cross country flight being the ultimate sacrifice. And he's like, that's not the ultimate sacrifice. It's giving your life away. I'm like, no, it's not. It's a window seat on a fucking cross country flight. Like I don't even listen to myself and realize what a twat I am a lot of the times. But no, I lose everything. I lose. I mean, I fuck his shit up. Like, I'm sure. Like our therapist gave us an assignment and they were like, you for one week, think about, you know, give Rachel one assignment of something that could make you happy or feel loved in this marriage. And, and you, you know, Rachel, you give. Ask Pete for one. And I said maybe a compliment.

[Heather McDonald]

Like, you know, yes, I asked for compliments.

[Rachel Feinstein]

He never gives me compliments.

[Heather McDonald]

These are just fine.

[Rachel Feinstein]

He won't give me a single. You know what he said? He says the material of what I'm wearing. He goes, denim. I'm like, no, you can't scream polyester. That's not enough. He says, my materials and my clothing is. That's his compliment. Or if I go, do I look okay? He goes, wanna know?

[Heather McDonald]

You comfortable?

[Rachel Feinstein]

Nobody asked me if I was comfortable. I'm not giving birth. I'm asking. He's like, I don't know. Are you comfy off? Yeah. No, he doesn't. Or if I say anything about my weight or something, I'll be like, well, I don't know. What are your goals? You don't ask the woman if she wants to be less fat. What are your goals? Do you want to be less of a pig than you are right now? I don't know. That's what I hear when he says that to me. What are your.

[Heather McDonald]

See, but you know, like, this is like really comforting because I think when you. Whatever your husband's shortcomings are in your mind because you turn on TV or you see someone being like, oh, like, my sister's husband is very complimentary to her and very like, like if she came out in an outfit, you know, anything, he's just always like, look at your sister. And like, you know, all like, you know. But then she's like so annoying. Like, you know, whatever.

[Rachel Feinstein]

And.

[Heather McDonald]

Or she'll complain that he, you know, had to get a handyman to, like, help bring in a tree, you know, a Christmas tree.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And I'm like, but I'm like, who cares? But she's like, yeah, but, like, we had to bring Peter over to, like, finally put up this, like, chandelier or what? Now she can ask Drake. Now I'm like, you can ask any of them to just do what Michael doesn't want to do.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Because he bought you a Bottega bag, and he says, you're gorgeous. So to me, I think that's better. But to her, she's like, I would like someone that would know how to, like, put in a chandelier. You know? Like, it's like. It's like everybody has their thing.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Yeah. No, my husband got me. Yeah. The Costco pajamas. Or, like, one of those plastic tins full of, like, candy from Costco. I'm like, off you. I told him not to get me stuff like this, but he just only gets me those things. He's not that guy. He's not. The lavishing.

[Heather McDonald]

We. Yeah, we. A few years in, we kind of both just, like, don't give gifts that involve one of us going to a store. Really. Like, I don't do it because in the beginning of him being into golf, I would, like, go and get golf stuff, and he was just like, you know, okay, Travis Matthews was having a 30% off sale. Like, I know how to get the clothes. I had the. So now I'm like, I'm not gonna go try and buy you.

[Rachel Feinstein]

So now you, like, make a meal or do something like that?

[Heather McDonald]

No, but you do.

[Rachel Feinstein]

This is fascinating. No, I need to adopt it so I'm not so sad every time my birthday rolls around.

[Heather McDonald]

Well, and for.

[Rachel Feinstein]

For year.

[Heather McDonald]

My whole life, I've planned my birthday, whatever. I have friends that will say, hey, we're like, like, tonight, I'm going to a girls dinner. I have groups of girls, and we'll do a girls dinner thing for. With my husband. I will say, for my birthday, this is what I'd like to do. I. That's a great way to do a trip. I like, like, a Cabo weekend trip thing. And now I'll say, this, what I want to do. And then he'll be like, well, for. You know, I'm doing this for my birthday, whatever. The actual birthday. We do do, like, cards and do something nice. But yeah, like, we both, like, it's a ways for him to go and try and buy me, like, a handbag.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And it's a waste for me to go buy, you know, some golf shirt that he knows that he could get 50 off.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Yeah, my husband wants everything discounted. Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. Like, my husband's very, like, financial discount. Yeah, the discount.

[Rachel Feinstein]

The chief, the deal he notices every time he's overcharged for something. Like, it could be, like, a nickel on the phone. People could be robbing me blind right now. I have. I probably pay for every hotel I go to, like, three times. I never check anything. Yeah, he, like, meticulously. His goal for me.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Was to put the caps back on everything in the medicine cabinet. They were like, what would make you feel loved by your wife? And it's like. He's like, put the caps back on everything, you know? And I live a capitalist. I'm a capitalist bitch. And I'm sure it's annoying to be with me, but I don't know. He always goes, what would you. Why don't you just put your things back in the same place? I'm like, you assume that I know what my hands are doing. It feels like they go away from my body. They take trips. I don't know what they're up to, you know, But I'm always like, I'm not that. But look, he's also not the guy that's gonna compliment. You know, like, he's not. That's not his deal. And by the way, if I compliment him, he doesn't need it. I could be like, you look so hot. He's like, whatever. He's like, I. I try to do.

[Heather McDonald]

It, thinking that it would result in a compliment back. I'm like, that's a cute new jacket.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And he's just like, all right. Yeah, like, whatever. It's this. This thing where they send me the clothes once a month. Whatever Does.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Yeah, he doesn't need it.

[Heather McDonald]

I'm like, see how I give you a call? Like, I want the compliment. So now I just. I did. Just real. I realized several years ago, like, it's just not. I don't think it's a conscious. I don't do it. I just think some people are gonna do that, and then they're just not. And I also wonder if. Because, like, who can say that their partner, honestly, is getting accolades and love on a daily basis for what they do? Which is, you know, you people saying your thing is funny, going to your show, being excited to see you. And I kind of feel that they're like, well, then why do I have to do it?

[Rachel Feinstein]

That's kind of my husband. Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

I don't know, but I don't think they think.

[Rachel Feinstein]

He doesn't think it through, but that's what he's doing.

[Heather McDonald]

I don't think he. I don't think my husband is sitting back and going, like, I'm not gonna tell her that she looked. That she looks incredible. And that's the. My favorite dress that she ever wears. You know, I'm not gonna say that because she gets it enough from the juicy scoopers. I don't think he thinks it like that.

[Rachel Feinstein]

I just think, yeah, my husband. Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And I think back to the early days and yeah, when you're younger and there's no kids, maybe you're a little more, like, romantic. But it wasn't that different.

[Rachel Feinstein]

It wasn't much. Our first date, I took off my jacket, my husband just goes sons out gonzo. I'm like, that was like my big compliment. Yeah. Usually rhymed. It was so stupid. When he was set up with me, my friend, or this other fireman that set us up. He said, my husband text. He's like, any interest in meeting a semi famous Jewish jokester? The least arousing expression I've ever heard put together.

[Heather McDonald]

What? A semi famous Jewish jokester. Any interest in meeting her?

[Rachel Feinstein]

Yeah. And then my husband wrote. They, they. They screenshotted me this and that, and I saw a picture of him. I thought he was hot, but I was like, I'll meet him. In spite of this response. But Pete wrote back, like, single, ready to mingle. There's always a rhyme. And I was like, oh, God, Christ. But then I was like, I'll meet him. Yeah, he's pretty cute, but that's him. There's just like a rhyme or something like that. One time he wrote me this beautiful card, and it was about growing old together. And it was. Some of them. I was crying when I was reading it, and I said to him, from. The therapist told me to give an assignment. I was like, just write me, like, a beautiful card about what you think about. Usually his cards read like a. Like a seventh grader's yearbook. He always like, he. It's always a lot of numbers. He's like, one kid, one house, five years, we could do anything. I'm like, what the fuck does that do with me or you or our marriage? It's usually just like, one wife, one child. Anything's possible. Have a great summer. Like, it's the dumbest thing you've ever read in your life. So she was like. So she's like. I was like, write a real card about, like, how you feel about me. So he wrote this long thing about growing older. And then there was a picture on it of me and him as or two old people holding hands, like a drawing. And I was like, this is beautiful. And he's like, yeah, well. And then I thought, I'm gonna go ahead and Google these words. And he absolutely stole it from the Internet. Every word. And the drawing on it just fully plagiarized. Yeah. Before that, he gave me roses with a note in it that one of the other firemen put in it that said roses. Fastest way to say I love you, sides. That's how he said I love you to me. By the way, Side didn't even spell. Besides, first time he gave me flowers, first Valentine's Day. And there was a card inside. Fastest way to say I love you, sides. Fucking. And I was like, pete, did you write this? Because it was typed up, you know? And he goes, I think anthony from the firehouse put it in there. So. But I was like, but he hadn't said I love you yet. So this was his way of saying I love you. I had to be like, wait, is this mean? Is this you trying to. He's like, well, I was going to say it tonight at some point. Yeah. Was thinking about it.

[Heather McDonald]

Every Valentine's Day, Mother's Day and birthday, I do get Costco roses.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And I love them. And for a long time, I don't know if it's still the case. It's two dozen a botul. Okay? So 24 roses. And one Valentine's Day, I came home and there was only 12. And I. For, like, a second, because I always was that person's like, I don't want to ever walk around the earth, like, being so confident. Like, not me, you know, whose husband doesn't cheat. Like, you know, so I'd always, like, imagine, like, the worst case scenario. Like, if I came home and his car was there. I'm like, what if I just walked in and it's just like he and a dude were in the living room. Like, I have to just prepare my brain for that so if I see it, I don't, like, lose my mind, whatever. So, you know, because I always think about all those, like, housewives and stuff that would talk about, like, my man. And those are always, like, the worst marriages. Right? So I'm like, I think the fact that I don't, like, oh, over glamorize this, like, is. Is what's keeping us, you know, on the track. So anyway, I was like, oh, my God, like, Where is the other dozen? Like, how is. Like, I'm just not gonna notice. That's what. And I was, like, kind of joking, but kind of not. So I think I, like, did, like, a. Like a. A story or something about it. Like, you guys. I guess this is it. Like, Peter has another family that we've never known about, and where are the other flowers? That. And then someone, like, wrote and was like, no, Heather. On. Like, I just went to the Costco, and on Valentine's Day, they are splitting them up. Like, there's. There are ones where there are probably ones you could still buy 24, but once he saw you could only buy 12. That's plenty.

[Rachel Feinstein]

That's funny. That's plenty would say, too, he had to get whatever's fastest.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Yeah. That's my husband.

[Heather McDonald]

So that was my. Yeah.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Yeah. Usually it's not that deep. Yeah. And it's kind of helped to know that sometimes. Yeah. But I would have thought the same thing, too. I mean, you never know. But, I mean, I feel like. Yeah. With Pete, usually there's not some complicated stuff.

[Heather McDonald]

Wait, your husband's name is Pete, too? I just realized that.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And mine's Peter.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

But it's always weird when people call him Pete, like his new friend. Like, new friends and stuff will be like, what's up with Pete? I always remember. I was like, I've never called him Pete in my entire life. I only call him Peter now.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Sometimes I call him Peter, but usually most people call him Pete, So I call him that. But his mom calls him Peter, and she always. His mother was always encouraging him to go to therapy. And I always think about how she used to go, peter needs to get to know Peter. Peter needs to get to know Peter. And I was grateful. I was like, yeah, he does. Yeah. But he would probably just go to therapy and talk about, like, the flooring in the house or how the floors weren't level or something like that. Yeah. Peter needs to get to know Peter. Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Rachel Feinstein]

But, you know, I love that we.

[Heather McDonald]

Have so much in common.

[Rachel Feinstein]

I know. I think that. I feel like our husbands would probably really hit it off.

[Heather McDonald]

Oh, my God. They would totally hit it off.

[Rachel Feinstein]

My husband loves Costco so much. Like, he's obsessed with it. We honeymoon through Costco. Everything.

[Heather McDonald]

I'm a little bit sad because now Peter is doing Instacart from Costco.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Oh, he is doing Instacart. Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And he's like. And I go, but to me. To me, it's very fun to go.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

I like to Go. And I, you know, I like to go with as many family people as possible that are around because I like to look what they have. And I like to be like, would we want this? Do we want this? I like to look at the furniture. I just. There's something so comforting. It to me. It's one of the happiest places on earth. Like, if I find out that they. My husband and son went to Costco without me, I don't know, it just really bums me out. I don't know why I like it so much. I. I just still do.

[Rachel Feinstein]

It is satisfying to just be able to.

[Heather McDonald]

I just like to see all. There's the new. What they.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Yeah, they have new special.

[Heather McDonald]

Like there's like, furniture, or there's some, like, weird thing.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Or the samples. When they have any sample on my face. No. When they start to describe it to me, like, this is what it is. I'm like, ah, that's enough. It's going right in my dumb fate. No questions asked. Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

Or you're. When it's just like a weird piece of bread, I'm like, come on. With, like a little butter on it. I'm like, that's not an appetizer.

[Rachel Feinstein]

No. I love a sample. I love free samples. Since I was a kid, I've always loved them.

[Heather McDonald]

I remember the day they stopped the samples due to Covid.

[Rachel Feinstein]

That was up. That's the hardest part for me.

[Heather McDonald]

That was honestly so awful. Like, it was it. That was it. It was the hardest part.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Right before the shot stopped.

[Heather McDonald]

The what? What did you say about the blowout.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Samples and not be able to get a blowout for me. I was fucking. I was pregnant. And that was still the hardest part for me. Not be able to get a blowout. Like, having somebody blow my hair out. Like, the truth was coming out about how I really look. I rely on a team of people to paint an active lie on me. I'm like, I have to give birth without a blowout. Fuck this. Yeah. I wanted to, you know, I wanted to look better.

[Heather McDonald]

My mom, every photo that she had after giving birth, she would wear her own nightie. Like, bring her own Chicago nightie. Her own thing. And she would get her hair done.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And like. And then she said I was so late, that, like, she was just. It was such a problem because she kept, like, wrapping it around in toilet paper every night so it could stay. Cause it was like a. Like a. Like it's the bouffant. Like, whatever. And. Cause she was, you know, had to take that one photo. And back then they would just put gas on your face.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

And they somehow take the forceps. I don't know how they got it out if you weren't like actively pushing. And then they would just. They. She said then they would tap you and say it was a boy, it was a girl, take the baby. And then she would wake up and.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Take the photo fully for the birth. Yes. By the way, that sounds fantastic. Just to have somebody knock you right out and just be like a gift to your baby. Oh my God. I didn't know they put you fully out back then.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Wow. Yeah, but that's. Yeah, they were about setting your hair.

[Heather McDonald]

So they were like, that's really bad. Like how many drug, what kind of drugs went into the child's system? And I'm like, yeah, that's what Gen Xers are. I don't know what we are. This was so great. Tell everybody. I know you do a lot of stand up, you're on the road. Where can they get more of you in their life?

[Rachel Feinstein]

You can go to my. Follow me on Instagram, Rachel Feinstein underscore. I post a lot of my dates there or go to my website, rachel-feldinstein.com I'm hurling myself to a lot of different places and when I'm not at home just, just stirring an empty bowl, waiting for my husband to come home and give me meaning again. But that's how it was to be. It used to be you just would set your hair like that was the half your life was setting your hair and just waiting for the same guy to come back home again. I mean, it is good. We can go on stage and talk shit. I don't know. I have no point to what I'm saying. I should be cut off and blocked by now, by the way.

[Heather McDonald]

Wait, I have to ask you. What do you think about like the trad wife movement of like young gen zers that marry and they like make their own bread and they're. Do you follow any of those girls? And like, and like the joy of it and all of that.

[Rachel Feinstein]

I think that they're all snacking on Xanax all day because they all look like they are. And I've always thought about those group wives when they're married, when your husband has like seven different wives, Right? Yeah. And then just like everything's fine while me and Jenny and all the girls get along. Yes, we do. That is a Xanax voice that I think they're chomping on hard meds all day and they need dough and. Yeah, fine.

[Heather McDonald]

There's a lot of. I remember when I did like that wise guys in Salt Lake City there. And you know, it was one of those five show weekends where you just have like the afternoon to yourself. And I was like walking around and there were so many ads for drug addiction places because I do think. Because they don't drink alcohol and stuff.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Yeah.

[Heather McDonald]

A lot of them do get on some other altering things and then become sadly addicted.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Yeah. Because their eyes, they look like they're not in their own bodies. Like they're. And yeah, they have left the building. Yeah, I think a lot of. I mean, look, I tried to do some of those, you know, when I had a toddler, I watched a lot of those videos and I try to do a lot of those different activities with her. But whenever you. I don't buy it when you are. I like the whole idea, like, don't get them much toy rotation, all that kind of shit. But when you have a little kid that age, especially toddler. Mine's five now, she's not really a toddler anymore. But like your house is jacked up. Shit is everywhere.

[Heather McDonald]

Right.

[Rachel Feinstein]

So those like minimalist ladies that are like, I just, just weed dough and then we go look for pretty things in nature. Like I try to do that. Yes. But things just get hurled. There's smears everywhere. There's just a. I already have smears myself. Like, I'm always worried about like leaving debris.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Or just excreting tanning salon lotions and at people's furniture. I don't buy it. When if you have a spotless home, you have a toddler. I don't believe you. I don't care if you're a stay at home mom. Yeah. I don't believe you. Yeah. That you're just kneading dough and then just these neat little activities. No, it's not like that. Yeah, it's a little more jacked up. But I think the dresses are cute. I love dresses and I love those old like country dresses.

[Heather McDonald]

Yeah. I can see the desire of it, but I don't think it can last forever. So get your education, girls. Get your education and make your own money.

[Rachel Feinstein]

That's right. Make your own money. You know what the. Your husband's doing? He comes in the last frame, puts his arm around, is like, how's it going, little lady? Like, yeah, he could be anywhere inside. He could be at a glory hole for the rest of the day. You don't know what the fuck he's up to. Yeah. Get a check from somewhere.

[Heather McDonald]

All right? We're going to go to lunch.

[Rachel Feinstein]

Speaking of glory holes.

[Heather McDonald]

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[Rachel Feinstein]

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[Heather McDonald]

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[Heather McDonald]

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[Heather McDonald]

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[Rachel Feinstein]

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[Heather McDonald]

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[Rachel Feinstein]

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