Hollywood Madness: Britney, Kardashians & Bravo Drama with Spencer Pratt

Summary

Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

Episode: Hollywood Madness: Britney, Kardashians & Bravo Drama with Spencer Pratt

Date: December 25, 2025
Guest: Spencer Pratt

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Episode Overview

Heather McDonald welcomes Spencer Pratt back to Juicy Scoop for a wide-ranging, hilariously unfiltered discussion covering the latest in Hollywood drama, reality TV shakeups, and pop culture absurdities. Together, they tackle everything from the surreal world of staged celebrity paparazzi photos, the ethics of child stardom, and viral internet personalities, to in-depth analysis of current stories involving Britney Spears, the Kardashians, Bravo drama, and much more. Throughout, Spencer brings his signature self-aware, reality TV veteran perspective.

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Key Topics & Discussion Points

1. The Art and Evolution of Paparazzi Photos (03:20–08:28)

• Heather and Spencer reflect on the changing landscape of paparazzi photography.
  • Heather jokes about her own awkward pregnancy photos from years ago, contrasting them with Heidi Montag’s Instagram-perfect images.
  • Spencer shares that set-up paparazzi shots are now rarer and less lucrative (06:48), and divulges their elaborate history of planning staged couple shots (“We used to, with budget back in the day, travel with the paparazzi. Bring the hair and makeup…” – Spencer, 07:50).
  • They discuss how Instagram and "influencer culture" have both commodified and democratized staged vacation glamor.

Notable Quote:

“We just recently did staged photos on our Kauai trip. Back in the day, it would have been easy money for the pap, now it's not. The game's so different.”
– Spencer (06:48)

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2. Deep Dive: Untold – The Manti Te’o Catfishing Doc (08:29–17:41)

• Recap and reactions to the Netflix documentary on Manti Te’o’s infamous catfishing scandal.
  • Heather breaks down the phenomenon and how it upended Manti’s football career.
  • Spencer admits to never having heard the full story before, despite being in the reality TV space (12:11), and expresses awe at the catfisher’s elaborate ruse.
  • The two discuss nuances around public speculation, shame, and empathy—especially as Spencer reflects on the broader media culture of the time (14:50).
  • Both note that the public response to these scandals can have outsized personal consequences for those involved.

Notable Quotes:

“My first thought was, like, my list of things I want to watch ahead of this… but it gets so good. One of my favorite docs ever.”
– Spencer (10:55)

“Thank God they didn’t use my talking head making jokes about Manti, because that stuff sticks. We see how much it affected him. The memes, the jokes—we don’t realize the damage.”
– Heather (15:03)

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3. Nene Leakes, Bravo, and Lawsuit Strategy (22:48–27:15)

• Heather gives an update on Nene Leakes dropping her discrimination lawsuit against Bravo and Andy Cohen—“without prejudice,” so she could bring it back.
  • Spencer speculates that some behind-the-scenes deal (production contract or hush money) may have influenced the decision, based on his own reality TV experiences (24:22).
  • Both note the tricky balance for reality stars: speaking out vs. protecting ongoing/future career opportunities, referencing past industry lawsuits and outcomes.

Notable Quote:

“It’s really hard to prove that kind of case, and then you’re screwing yourself for future work… Still, she's a star. Maybe they gave her what she actually wanted—a new show, or at least a deal.”
– Heather (26:16)

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4. Aubrey O’Day & The Social Media Vacation Fakery (30:12–32:39)

• The hosts discuss Aubrey O’Day being called out for blatantly Photoshopping herself into luxurious vacation destinations.
  • Heather links it to a broader trend of social media fabrications and influencer “flexing.”
  • Spencer jokes about wanting to do the same if he knew how to use Photoshop.

“Now she’s doubling down—like, ‘I’m an artist, my art is Photoshopping myself all over Greece.’”
– Heather (32:16)

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5. Jay Cutler, Kristin Cavallari & The Realities of Reality TV Divorce (33:38–38:54)

• They analyze the post-divorce moves of Jay Cutler and Kristin Cavallari, including their podcast guest appearances and social media presence.
  • Spencer labels Jay “the worst guy ever” after personal interactions and is skeptical of his public persona (36:30).
  • Insight into the complicated, performative nature of public relationships—both in and after reality TV.
  • Exploration of how children, new businesses, or houses may prolong unhappy relationships (“Kids don’t make it work, but they make you try harder, hope longer.” – Heather, 37:01).

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6. Britney Spears: Parenting, Social Media, & The New Strange Era (42:44–52:56)

• A thoughtful, at times concerned conversation about Britney Spears:
  • Discussing the released private audio involving her sons—both defend Britney, critique Kevin Federline's motives in releasing them, and analyze the nuances.
  • Heather and Spencer speculate about Britney’s current marriage (is it legally recognized?) and social media output, noting the mystery around her public appearances and whether she’s truly “free.”
  • They ponder the oddity of public claims (e.g., “I had wine at a restaurant!”) that no bystanders ever seem to corroborate online.

Notable Quotes:

“I just cannot figure out if she knows about OnlyFans—she could make millions in a single day.”
– Spencer (47:57)

“We thought we cracked the case, now I feel like there’s a whole new case. Why do we only see her in old videos? Where’s the marriage license?”
– Heather (50:22)

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7. Child Stars & The Ethics of Fame (56:23–61:18)

• Prompted by the Jeanette McCurdy book and Amanda Bynes’ struggles, Heather and Spencer talk child stardom.
  • Heather recounts her own childhood auditions and the subtle parental pressures.
  • Spencer underscores that their son, Gunner, gets to opt-in/out of any public content, and is paid for the Hills appearances (above-board, in contrast to less ethical stories).

Notable Quotes:

“For some kids, it works out—and for most, it doesn’t. My mom made me feel bad if I didn’t book a job: ‘I wasted my whole day taking you there…’”
– Heather (60:15)

“We made the Hills pay Gunner, set up his bank account, didn’t take a percentage—all above board.”
– Spencer (61:18)

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8. Reality Gossip Lightning Round (67:16–73:09)

• Erika Jayne & Tom Girardi’s asset auction: Is her art collection bought with victim’s money? Are things being hidden?
• Selling Sunset villain shakeup: Christine Quinn out, with Heidi suggested (by Spencer) as a possible new villain—"She could sell expensive trailers in Malibu!" (69:08)
• Brooklyn Beckham and privileged second-generation celebrity dilemmas: His rapid “career changes” from photography to “chef” to TikTok cooking, and the public’s skepticism and ridicule.

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9. Social Media Giveaways & Kardashian Controversies (77:18–83:54)

• Kim Kardashian’s $130,000 Instagram giveaway—scam or just spam?
  • Both hosts scrutinize the sketchy nature of the “giveaway loop” industry and the lack of confirmed winners (79:16).
  • Spencer reveals he was shadow-banned by Instagram for participating in a similar promotion.

Notable Quote:

“She got $5 million for that—so she posts a sweepstakes, no real connection with her audience, and only 470,000 people even like it out of 329 million followers. Doesn’t even dent her brand.”
– Spencer (82:44)

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10. Andrew Tate: Viral Misogynist or “Brilliant” Marketer? (84:05–91:16)

• Exploration of Andrew Tate’s rise as a TikTok phenomenon, anti-women rhetoric, and eventual deplatforming:
  • Heather walks through Tate’s “Hustlers University”—part MLM, part men’s empowerment/school for scandal (85:52).
  • Spencer marvels at the viral marketing strategy that flooded the internet: “It was a marketing tsunami… He could have just made millions and dipped.” (87:21)
  • They touch on the danger of such figures for young male audiences, citing viral posts from concerned teachers.

Notable Quote:

“He came like, if he was an album being launched. Most amazing marketing tsunami I’ve ever seen.”
– Spencer (87:21)

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11. Personal Anecdotes, Hollywood Encounters, and Family Life (61:18–67:13)

• Heather and Spencer sprinkle in personal stories:
  • Bumping into Chris Pratt (are they cousins?), relative etiquette, and the perils of being approached by intoxicated fans.
  • Spencer’s take on sitting down with celebs (“When people approach me, I just say, 'Want a photo or a video? Let's get content, move on.'” – 63:42).

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12. Quickfire Topics

• Kate Gosselin & grown-up reality kids: Dissecting the fallout of “Kate Plus Eight” (73:17)
• Pete Davidson’s Kim Kardashian branding: Spencer jokes about creatively rebranding bad tattoos (75:32)
• Brad Pitt/Angelina Jolie breakup: Referencing the infamous private plane incident (64:55–66:28)
• Apple Martin’s (Gwyneth Paltrow’s daughter) “Apple Martini” joke: Lighthearted wrap-up as episode closes (92:11–92:26)

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Timestamps of Key Segments

• 03:20 – Hawaii trip, paparazzi photo setups, evolution of celebrity glamour
• 08:29 – Manti Te’o doc discussion, catfishing in the public eye
• 22:48 – Nene Leakes lawsuit dropped, Bravo contract speculation
• 30:12 – Aubrey O’Day’s Instagram fakery, influencer Photoshop revelations
• 33:49 – Jay Cutler and Kristin Cavallari breakdown, post-divorce branding
• 42:44 – Britney Spears, Kevin Federline, and the shifting narrative
• 56:23 – Child star trauma, ethics of exploiting children in media
• 67:16 – Girardi auction, Selling Sunset villain casting
• 77:18 – Kardashian Instagram giveaways, influencer marketing fraud
• 84:05 – Andrew Tate's TikTok ban, Hustlers University
• 92:11 – Apple Martin joke, wrap-up and self-promotion

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Memorable Quotes

On the Reality of Fame and Faking It

“I feel like more people come up to me as Juicy Scoopers than anything I've ever done, which is amazing.”
– Spencer (03:28)

“Now she’s doubling down—‘I’m an artist, my art is Photoshopping myself all over Greece.’”
– Heather (32:16)

On Parenting as a Former Child Star

“We made the Hills pay Gunner, set up his bank account, didn’t take a percentage—all above board.”
– Spencer (61:18)

On Cancel Culture and Social Media Virality

“He came like, if he was an album being launched. Most amazing marketing tsunami I’ve ever seen.”
– Spencer (87:21)

On Public Scandals & Redemption

“Thank God they didn’t use my talking head making jokes about Manti—stuff sticks. We see how much it affected him…”
– Heather (15:03)

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Episode Tone and Takeaways

• The episode is fast-paced, irreverent, and highly self-aware, with both hosts balancing biting humor and genuine empathy.
• Spencer’s transparency about the performative side of reality TV and influencer life provides a unique “insider” view.
• Both acknowledge the complexities behind pop culture stories, from private heartbreak and exploitation to the way internet culture shapes (and misshapes) public narratives.

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For longtime Juicy Scoopers and first-time listeners alike, this episode delivers the ultimate pop culture temperature check – equal parts comedy, vulnerability, and media literacy masterclass.

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Guests’ handles:

• Heather: @heathermcdonald
• Spencer: @spencerpratt

Discount code for Spencer’s products: “juicy” at checkout (93:55).

Transcript

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[B]

Oh, I'm so. I woke up actually in real life tingling because I looked at a notification for a crystal sale, and it said they used code Juicy. And it was just, like, a sign because no one knew I was coming on. I was like, this is just such a good. I love it.

[A]

I love it.

[B]

And I saw a scooper in Hawaii.

[A]

Oh, I know you guys were in Hawaii. Tell me about that.

[B]

She was so nice.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I feel like more people actually come up to me as Juicy scoopers than anything we've ever done, which is so entertaining.

[A]

Makes me so happy.

[B]

Me more, because I love taking photos with people.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Can you not excited? I'll work on it, but I don't take medication for adhd.

[A]

Oh, you're the only one. You're the only one.

[B]

Now I got to focus.

[A]

Okay, Focus. You were in Hawaii. You guys looked so cute. And I was going on Heidi's page, and I saw her beautiful pregnancy photos that she did. And I just wanted to say there's a lot that I'm jealous of of people that are younger having babies today. One, that you can put your baby on Instagram, you can exploit them for likes, all that kind of stuff. The other is that I didn't really do this. And then one day, I was at my sister's house, and she was like, you know, my neighbor's a photographer. He's like, an artsy photographer, and he offered to take pregnancy photos of you. And I was like, all right. So, like, no hair and makeup, nothing. I go over to, like, the Palm Desert. Like, you know, he normally. He normally, like, photographed, like, homeless people in Joshua Tree for black and white photos.

[B]

Please tell me we're about to see it. We are. Okay, good. I was like this. Give the room.

[A]

Here you go. What the. Is that? You guys?

[B]

So. Oh, my God.

[A]

Ugly. So awful. I want to describe to the people driving in their car right now. They put me in, like. Like, a robe. Just the stomach sitting. It looks like I'm about to take a. But I'm sitting on an office chair I have.

[B]

And you're maybe pregnant.

[A]

I have, like, just the appointment with some weird glasses. Even though I didn't wear glasses. I just have, like, a greasy bun. Absolutely awful. Absolutely. Now let's go back to Heidi's.

[B]

You should do a main post of that last.

[A]

Oh, my God. So bad. I also just saw this today. Did you see this?

[B]

I didn't. I love it. Okay.

[A]

This is the real bad fashions and Instagram account. I follow. And they said, choose your fighter. Okay. And they showed all these photos of paparazzi. I think set up posed photos of Teresa Giudice, now whatever her new last name is. And her new husband Louis from Real Housewives in New Jersey. And you and Heidi throughout the years. And look how many similar poses there are. Here's one. Why you turn so much. Look at your photo. Look here.

[B]

Oh, my gosh, this budget. I like the big screen, though, so.

[A]

I mean, they seriously have studied you guys. I'm so flattered because you did write the book. You literally wrote a book. How to be famous and how to do these paparazzi in love photos. Here you guys are both standing with the leg kicked up, kissing on the beach. And then here the. The finale dip. And this one, you guys are kind of being funny because you have your masks on.

[B]

Yeah, that's recent, too. So, you know. No, that's really how you feel.

[A]

Are you flattered that people.

[B]

Oh, my God. As a couple, I love being in any post. So this now I got to follow the real bad fashion liking and commenting. I'll guarantee you these are stage photos because we just recently did stage photos on our Kawaii trip. And we were talking to Asia, our good friend paparazzi.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And we're concerned about other paps getting the shot. And he's like, oh, no, those days are over. I'm like, what do you mean? He's like, the game's so different. Like, you can't just. There's no. Just accidental paparazzi anymore. It costs too much to travel. There's very, very. You know, he's a top guy in the business. And he's saying that he'll send in photos of people in Hawaii that he was like, oh, this would have been easy money back in the day. And there's no deals, no money. And he lives there. So there's nobody traveling to that looks like.

[A]

So your photographer lives in.

[B]

Yeah, he was in Hawaii. Guy in.

[A]

He's a Hawaii guy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so you let him know we're going to go.

[B]

Oh, we wouldn't have gone if he wasn't there.

[A]

Okay. All right. So then you know the day he's gonna go. So that day you might put, like, a little product in your hair.

[B]

Oh, no, Heidi, she got a hair. She got her hair blown out the morning before we left to frolics on the beach just to go straight to the pap setup.

[A]

Oh, my God, I love it.

[B]

Well, we used to with budget back in the day we would travel with the paparazzi. Bring the hair and makeup. Like, if we go back to three shots.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That Cabo trip.

[A]

This one where she's on top of.

[B]

That's Bahamas. So definitely this one. Yeah, that's Cabo we had.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You don't just get hair like that in the. In the hotel bathroom. That's. Yeah, that's professional. Yeah. Yeah. So, yes, that is a setup. There are paparazzi and not just risk.

[A]

And they're in Greece, so it's, like, probably really worth it, too. There's so many people in Greece right now that are worth it in that shot. Yeah, you would have flown to Greece just to get him.

[B]

I have the camera.

[A]

I love it. Yeah. Very, very juicy. Okay, now, I texted you over the weekend and told you, please watch this Netflix doc. This is Untold, which is. It's like a little series of short documentaries kind of in the sports world. The Girlfriend who Didn't Exist. And his name. This guy's name is Manti Teal. Manti Teal.

[B]

Don't look to me. I watched it for four hours and still can't see Mantee. I'm just calling him Manti. I feel like everyone just calls him Manti.

[A]

And I remember the story when it came out in 2012, because I was at Chelsea lately, and it was a topic, and we were like. And the guys were very aware of who this guy was because he was the top player at Notre Dame at the time, and he was. They were going for the world champ, not the world. The national championship. And also he was up for the Heisman. And there was this compelling story about how his grandmother, who he adored because he was a total family guy from Hawaii, he was a Mormon, but then, you know, was at Notre Dame, and his girlfriend died the same day. And he still went out and played this incredible game. So that kind of helped get him in the running of the Heisman. Anyway, then it was revealed that the girl never existed. Never existed. And then we want. Now, 12 years later, 10 years later, the real story comes out, which. It's the classic Catfish, but at the time, I guess Catfish wasn't on tv, or he wasn't aware of it, of how Catfish works. But this girl had contacted Manti from Facebook, and they were both from Polynesian descent, and she was really cute, and she goes, oh, I. I go to Stanford. He's like, I'm at Notre Dame. They start talking. They talk on the phone, everything, only to eventually find out that there was no girlfriend. And it was this other Polynesian guy.

[B]

Who was once Ronin.

[A]

Yeah. Who was once a football player himself and had created this character. And as this character, he had pursued other men in an online situation as this cute girl. He knew this girl from, like, his high school, took her image and. And then created Facebook pages and stuff. And then. And then would, like, talk to them on. On the online and on the phone, but never FaceTime all this time. So what was your initial thought of this is a two part, like, four hour thing?

[B]

My first thought was, like, my list of things I want to watch ahead of this, you know, that I don't get to watch.

[A]

So you were annoyed with me.

[B]

I was like, gotta have homework if I like homework.

[A]

So. Yeah, okay.

[B]

But it was an excuse to be like, heidi, I gotta. You're up on Gunner and whole lives. I'm just gonna go lay in bed and watch this. I have work. This is a job. So I got in bed, put the AC on, and then started watching it. I was like this at first. I was like, what am I watching? You know, you have Noah and it gets so good. It's so good. And it's like one of my favorite docs ever. But the whole time, I was so jealous. I was like, how do I have no story this good in my life that I have never masterminded anything on this level? I was so jealous of Ronin. Whatever. Excuse me. Ronin. It was just like, I don't know what I've really tried before I got here to, like, think it through and go in conspiracy mode and. And try to be like somebody back. I didn't. That's a problem with my, like, ego.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Back like 2012. Like, I. This could have happened. I have no. I don't know what happened from like 2002 to 2018.

[A]

You mean in the world? In the world.

[B]

So this was. I never heard this story. I'm like, oh, my gosh, this is so interesting. But I started really thinking, like, even after watching the doc and it kind of ends abruptly, and I just was like, did he know? You know?

[A]

I was like, I totally believe everything he said 10 years later. Which, by the way, I was like, did he get a nose job or just his teeth done? So I investigated. It was just his teeth. And then he no longer plays professional football, so he just thinned out. But he's extremely good looking. He's married to a woman now. And now he was always straight, but he. There was. People thought he was in on it and thought it was his way of creating a fake girlfriend. Because he was hiding the fact that he was gay. And so it was just what I thought was so interesting is like I said, I remember when it came out and I didn't really get it. And I don't think that's just. I kind of literally like saw myself in the Chelsea Lately writers room, like when the story and what we were saying about it and we definitely made it a topic and we definitely made fun of the fact that like this guy lied and said he had a girlfriend and died, you know, And I was thinking as I'm watching it, he did not win the Heisman, thank God.

[B]

So he would have taken it because.

[A]

Had he won the Heisman and the second runner up or whatever that would have been because they definitely, they said he was a really good player. But the people that vote for the Heisman and the runner ups are like sports writers, almost like an Academy Award. So it's not necessarily totally based on like how good of a player you are. So because he had such a compelling story and he was such like a likable guy and he came from this hard working Hawaiian family and he was super into his faith. And then the sad story all added to him becoming that much more like in the media and popular. And so I was really glad he actually didn't win because I think that would have been way worse to wonder, like, didn't Reggie Bush have to give back the Heisman and didn't OJ Also win the Heisman? I'm pretty sure he did, but I'm just saying, like, I just feel like thank God that they didn't, you know, and even if that was the case, he still did nothing wrong. I mean, if you watch the document, watch it, you know, with an open eye. If you think maybe he's not being completely truthful today. I do, but like, you know, it was just one of those things where, you know, people are like, oh, you know how people speculate on it. And they were showing like all the people, all the talking heads talking about making jokes, all the people that made like memes and funny things and he's crying 10 years later about how hurtful these jokes were. And all I could think about was like, thank God they didn't use your talking heads.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Like, they didn't use like one of my talking heads being like, really? Okay, like he's not gay or something. Like, thank God because you do this stuff and then it's like 10 years later, you're like, even sometimes a week later the story gets cleared up and no one bothers to, like, retract what they said or whatever. And then you see how much it affected him. And it affected him, like, getting the best football teams in the draft because he had this, like. He had some major stink on him as anxiety.

[B]

He's done it. But then I started thinking, like, so what they didn't talk about was like, was there sexting?

[A]

Like, you know, like, I didn't even think about that.

[B]

Yeah, that was a question. I was like, is. Is where are the naked photos? Back and forth, you know, are there. So there's just. No, it's just like, you know, Fred, it was so good. I was like. And then the fact that he could do that voice, and he had to do it behind the. On Dr. Phil. He had to go behind the. Yeah, like, he's told Dr. Phil. The person being Shanae. Was it Shanae?

[A]

The girl, Linnae? Yeah.

[B]

So the guy being linnae went on Dr. Phil, but said he couldn't do the voice being watched, so he had to go in the corner. And I was like, this is.

[A]

But then I thought. I thought it sounded just like the girl, you know? And there's a. There's a podcast, and I think there's also a little documentary called, like, Hollywood Conqueen or something. And it was about this guy who was like. I think he was Asian, but he did this elaborate con where he would approach people and he acted like he was this female executive. He had several different kinds of Personas, and he would. But he would go after, like, lower people in Hollywood, like a stuntman, and be like, hey, I would like you to coordinate the stunts on this film that we're doing in Thailand or something. And then that person was, like, just getting on the cusp of getting the business and get all excited and go there and then. But then as the woman executive, sometimes that person would, like, try to have phone sex with this guy. And it was a really elaborate thing, but. But this person was able to do different male voices, different female voices. And I've told the story before, but when I was just out of SC, I met this guy at 12th Street. Do you remember 12th Street Bar and Grill in Manhattan Beach? Was that around in your day? Anyway, it was super fun on Sunday.

[B]

I loved your SC post, though. I was like, that was because I say that all the time to people asking, yeah, usc.

[A]

I did a post about how fun at USC used to be.

[B]

I read the list. I was like, okay, checking off most of them.

[A]

But anyway, I go to this thing, and it's like, all you Know, white, tall, volleyball, surfer types, right? And there's this shorter black guy. And we start talking, and I can tell he's gay. And so, of course, we're, like, hitting it off. He's making me laugh. We're boozing. We become friends. We start talking on the phone, and he starts to tell me that he gets hot guys, numbers, like hot straight guys that live in Manhattan beach, and says, do you want to be in this music video? And it pays and whatever. So then he would get the guy's number, and then he'd wait, like, two weeks, and then he would call after he had a few drinks and have a girl voice and call these guys and be like, oh, my God, how do I have your number? I'm so wasted right now. I've been drinking mimosas all day, and I'm dying because I have a body glove bikini shoot tomorrow. So then the guy was like, like, you know, who am I talking to? And then he would have phone sex with him and over and over and over again. And so then I would see him out and be like, you know, and he'd say, like, I fucked that guy. I fucked that guy. But he meant just on the phone, he. And only one guy did he meet in person.

[B]

So.

[A]

And the one guy goes, I know it's you. Like, he met through, like, a friend, but he was calling him, having phone sex with him all the time. And all of a sudden, the guy's like, I think. And then he, like, goes, hey, if you work that hard for it, go for it. And he leaned back and let him blow him.

[B]

So that was a little. I wasn't ready for that.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

So I try to open all my DMs on all my platforms, whatever. And anytime there's, like, you know, creepier DMs, I always. My one buddy who is all into creepy everything. And I always just be like, you should reach out to my best friend, Mikey P. You know, like, if you want. Like, I'm married, so I don't want any. Oh, you mean, like, you know, any. Any sleazy type dm, Any girls? Yeah, any dm.

[A]

Okay, I.

[B]

That's just not just to end it right there. I just connect him to. And so Mikey, like, just love this. And so he goes, you know, he's talking to one of these, you know, girls that came through this, the DM Passover, and goes and meets at a bar. And he calls me and he's like, what the f. I'm like, what? He's like, it was a Dude. And I loved it so much. But so, yeah, that's a whole.

[A]

Also in watching this.

[B]

And then I literally said, so you guys, it didn't work out between you?

[A]

I mean, I think this happens a lot. I mean, then all the catfishes that came, it was always that, you know, it was a lesbian presenting herself as a man to a straight girl or, you know, you know, all that stuff. It was never. That's what catfish is, is people presenting. And it's such a fun game for the person. Like. And it's. And for this person, eventually, you know, they get in touch with their sexuality and gender and everything. But this time he was this guy that was kind of forced to be in this football family and whatever. And this is how he just loved being this other identity. Even though he really, really fucked with this guy's life and his. You know, he was such a good person. And so it was, like, just so heartbreaking. But I was, like, rooting for if this was like, a scripted movie. The girl that. Whose image he stole. I was like, why don't you guys just get together? Like, you're so cute. Like. And I was hoping to hear from her in the doc, but I did some research, and she was just like, no. Like, it was an awful situation. I felt terrible. I did not want to be famous. I didn't ask for this, and I don't want to clear it up 10 years later. So they. The producers did try to. To have her participate the. The image who he stole, but she didn't want to.

[B]

So how. This one's on sports. Yeah, it's produced one of the names of the producers that does. This is Ben Silverman.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Who was a former NBC chairman for a minute. I interacted with him a few experiences, and I thought, wow, wouldn't it be good if they did a doc on you? You know, like. Yes, I hope they do. On somebody that's untold, like Hollywood executives, because they're such good stories.

[A]

I think that's gonna come.

[B]

These guys have to die.

[A]

It's gonna be like, a solid. No sooner than four or five years from now, will we start really getting those in. Yeah. They have to fall completely. They have to have no power, like a Harvey Weinstein in order for someone to step up and, like, do the doc. Like, otherwise, it's just too. It's just too hard. Yeah. But anyway, it's really juicy, and I. And even though I kind of told you the story, I'm telling you, you'll still really like it.

[B]

I told my mom yeah.

[A]

How it'll be.

[B]

It'll be.

[A]

It was really good. Okay, this is a little update. Are you familiar with the story? So Nene Leakes had filed a lawsuit against Bravo and Andy, or she named Andy. She named her costar Kim Zolciak from Real Houses of Atlanta, saying that, you know, there was discrimination. The N word was used. She was. Other people got spinoffs and she didn't and all this other kind of stuff. Anyway, then she was, like, tweeting, really, like, telling stuff, and I'm like, is she in the middle of negotiation and hoping that they'll, like, fold by being like, I have. She goes, I have taped audio. Wait till I share the audio and everything. Well, just now they said that she's dropped her discrimination lawsuit against Annie Cohen and Bravo and NBC Universal and the production company True Entertainment for now, at least. So she dropped it without prejudice, which means she can bring it back at any time. And I don't really understand this motive. I don't know why that. Why. I guess maybe they. They weren't ready to fold. Maybe somehow she's thinking she will be hired again. I don't. What do you think?

[B]

Maybe they gave her money? Because in my past, when I have. Not gonna say that exact same conglomerate. Yes, but we had a situation, and, you know, you get a production deal, and then all of a sudden, you know, which nobody has to know if you have a production deal. And then all of a sudden you're like, you know, we don't need to go to court for this.

[A]

Oh, you. So you're thinking, maybe they didn't give her money, but they gave her a guaranteed show, which never.

[B]

Like, we had two. Two separate situations where we got shows that never happened. So you get a spin off or you get. You get six episodes. That never happen, but you get paid with two different conglomerates.

[A]

Well, I remember when Kristin Chenoweth told me, like, she was working on some show, some scripted show, and, like, a light fell on her, and she was very, very physically hurt for a long time. And I was like, well, are you suing or what are you doing? And she's like, well, no, I mean, I think they're going to give me a variety show.

[B]

And then she had a variety show.

[A]

No, there's never been no Veronica.

[B]

Oh, she should have. She blew it, I think.

[A]

I wasn't. Listen, I thought it was a mistake that she ever brought the suit. I thought it's a very hard thing to prove. And I just think it's very hard. And then I also Think you're screwing yourself for future work because it's like the Mark Cherry, Nicolette Chariton thing where she went after him and she like really didn't work. That was from Desperate Housewives. She tried to say that she was killed off and it was a big long thing. And the media, I just think it's a really hard thing. I think she was so talented. I think she was such like a, you know, the forefathers of the Housewife franchise. And I think she was talented in script and stuff. But I think it's just hard to prove that like someone really kept you from getting work during two years of COVID and the fact that like Ryan Murphy didn't put you in any more things. So I don't know. But maybe you're right. Maybe they did go, okay, Nene, what is it that you want? I want to work again. Okay, you have a. But I would think her people would be like, no, not just a deal. We want like a guaranteed six episode thing that will air about like Nene's life today.

[B]

I. Oh my God, I would tune. I mean that's. She is a star.

[A]

Juicy. I think that's maybe what happened. Maybe they said, because I know she just really wants to work and maybe they were like, let's just do this. She is talented. I mean it's kind of a win win for both of them. We don't get suited.

[B]

Put her on with Kim. Nene and Kim, like take America.

[A]

Yeah. Well, Kim's never spoken about it. And I'm like, she speaks about everything. So I think her attorneys were like, just don't even, you know, say anything. But nobody else has ever. Maybe she has witnesses that we're gonna speak and be deposed. But like I spoke to, you know, a producer and stuff that said they. That they never heard Kim speak like that. That she's claiming. But who knows? We don't know what everything was happening. But I think you're right. I think, I think we're gonna see.

[B]

I mean, there's no other reason at this point to stop it.

[A]

Yeah. Why would you.

[B]

Because you're already.

[A]

Except that there's hopes to work again.

[B]

Yeah. Like why we can. We all should just get into it.

[A]

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[B]

I want to learn how to do Photoshop. I was like I would love to photoshop myself in every. Okay, so I have so many vacation.

[A]

Aubrey o' Day from what was her group, Kennedy Kane. I don't really think she. I'm sure she has an only fans, but has she like worked or done like sung anything recently?

[B]

No, she's a. If you check the Instagram bio, two time platinum seller.

[A]

Okay. So but I'm just saying, I.

[B]

She's, she was super relevant for being.

[A]

With Donald Trump Jr. Jr. That's right. And because they got together apparently allegedly while she was doing the Apprentice and he was working. He was on the Apprentice as well. And he was married at the time. Now he's divorced. But that was the rumors in stories that she told and where people put two and two together.

[B]

This is another perfect example of what we were just talking about. Her beef with Diddy. I feel like hurt so much of her success as well. This is obviously could be wrong, but I remember her being very outspoken about being anti Diddy who was her label executive and. Right again.

[A]

So she has an Instagram account, you know, and she like everybody else this summer it seems, if you follow big influencers are, you know, on the cliffs of Greece and in the Amalfi coast and all these places and people were like, wait a minute, look at these photos. Like literally she just like plopped herself a beautiful like, like, like in the middle of. It was literally like it's almost like a joke. Almost like you took like a cut out paper of a person and like stuck it on a poster.

[B]

It stood in front of like a background.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

At the mall.

[A]

Yes. It looks so bad. And so, you know, people started to talk about it. She immediately like removed it all and.

[B]

But then she started posting like all these videos from being in Bali at one time.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Like it was current and like, like talking over it and. Yeah, but I love now she, now.

[A]

She'S doubling down and she's being like, I'm an artist and part of my art is taking photos that I did at a Photoshop. Like taking professional photos that I did for like an album cover and plopping it in the backdrop of Greece on a perfectly beautiful day.

[B]

And like I'm a graphic designer.

[A]

I never, Yeah, I never was claiming.

[B]

I wanted to do a TikTok today doing this. But I don't know how to do Photoshop. But I wanted to do a TikTok of like me at all these like rituals, vacations.

[A]

Remember like when they discovered like. I feel like there's another doc coming out about this about how people. Oh, I know what. There's a movie coming out about how a girl wants to be a social influencer so she fakes everything and she fakes herself, like, on a private plane, and she fakes herself in Paris. And while she's faking being in Paris, there's like, a terrorist attack, like, right where she said she was. So then she comes back and now gets all this press as the influencer that survived this, like, terrorist attack. That is such a juicy storyline. Right. I forgot the name. It's coming out. But I will definitely see it. And that will also be juicy scoop homework, and everyone will need to watch it. But, like, yeah, I mean, it's. It's. It's really funny. But, like, people have done that a lot or try to act like it's a private jet or whatever, you know, but hilarious. I like it. Okay, did you see this?

[B]

Oh, I did a TikTok. Oh, I haven't seen this post, but I did a whole TikTok about. Go on about. Because I saw Jay went on.

[A]

This is Jay Cutler we're talking about. The husband of Chris Cavallari's husband. Yeah.

[B]

Major NFL player.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

So he went on the rival podcast, Sophia's Sophia, to call her daddy that Kristen had just gone on, which you had gone on. Yeah, Yeah. I wish I go on anybody's podcast that wants to make me famous for a day.

[A]

So, yes, don't dilute your brand and make me not want to invite you back.

[B]

No, I'm just saying, I just have Daddy.

[A]

I don't blame you. Go on that one.

[B]

I just had this conversation about I never imagined the podcast world being so highly competitive, you know, but, you know, I'm not in it as much as I'd like to be because Justin obviously takes my spot all the time. You know, he's funny and actually a comedian. But, yeah, so, no, of course I went on, you know, call her daddy, But I now say no to a lot because I risk, you know, losing my spot to Justin, who is here just all the time and going on the boat and doing podcasts. But. So, yes, I went on Call her Daddy. Yeah, it was amazing. Ends up she dates. I know. I went to high school with her secret Alex. Alex, secret boyfriend.

[A]

Oh, okay, cool.

[B]

I won't knock him out. But it was. Yeah, I was like, oh, wow, you're trusting me with this secret. Yeah. But, yeah, be quiet, Scissor. So. So, yes, Jay went on the Caller Daddy's Nemesis podcast, and I. This is how sensitive I now know all podcast hosts are. I wanted to do this TikTok, and I actually messaged my TikTok to Alex. Like, am I allowed to post a tick tock where I have your like, former.

[A]

Former co host.

[B]

Yeah. She's like, yeah, whatever. And I was like, I don't know. I was like, I don't know. All of a sudden I'm never on call her daddy because I did that, you know. So she said, yeah. So my tick tock was referencing that I watched all of not. It was very Cavalieri. I called it Uncommon James on my TikTok. Everyone's like, you never watch. So I watched all the episodes. I loved it. Her show on it. Jay plays like, I don't want any of these cameras. But now when you realize he just wanted them only on him. Juicy, you know, if you really look at the city now has his own jewelry line and his own clothing line and doing his own brand and it's just like he couldn't handle Kristen's. It's all my opinion. You know, I don't like Jay. I interacted with him and I was like, this is the worst guy ever. And I've met a lot of horrible people.

[A]

And so you're. Why do you think they even like got together? Do you think they just got to. Got pregnant and then just like we're in this.

[B]

Yeah. I think the story is he was pursuing her heavily through a publicist after her and clout and fame and. And just, you know, and I think, you know, they broke up and it was not happening. I think she said, I'm like, this isn't a scoop. And then got pregnant and then they tried it and she got pregnant twice more times and then, you know, more kids, I guess don't make it work.

[A]

No, I mean, I mean it doesn't. But it does make you go. It makes you oftentimes, you know, go longer, try harder. Hope. Hope, like, oh, well, the new house and the new business and you know what? I remember the little bit that I watched the show. I definitely not a cuddly couple. Like you could definitely see. Like, I thought they were both gorgeous and I thought they both like had fun quips. But like not a lot like a chemistry together. And so. Yeah. Because he kind of comes off. Comes off really dickish. But I mean, maybe I'm sure he's nice to other people.

[B]

Well now he looks so nice in all these interviews and on TikTok I'm like, who? It's fascinating. So.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Thankfully, Kristen loved my TikTok. She actually, you know, this is Scoop. She DM'd me and I fudgeing. Love you, Sensor. So.

[A]

Oh, good.

[B]

So there you go.

[A]

So national football memes Wrote this a true hero. So this is what Jay once said about connecting with his fans. People approach me all the time and ask if I have any regrets about my career. I tell them the same thing every time. I regret not telling more friends to fuck off while I was playing. So I didn't appear approachable enough in retirement to ask me stupid fucking questions like if I have any regrets about my career. My only regret is that you once had a teacher dumb enough to tell you there aren't stupid questions. They're really. There's really fucking stupid questions. You're asking me one right now. I have to say, pretty. Beautifully said. Pretty. Like pretty clever. Pretty smart. But when you think about it, that is pretty rude to say to like a football player or somebody.

[B]

Why? It's a real question. Because I was just asking Heidi this the other night about him because I was trying to really figure out how somebody that was supposed to be this superstar, you know, you know, Tom Brady, he was like hyped up. Like how he failed so much.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And so we started thinking, was it this marriage and they, you know, who knows the behind the scenes drama. Because it's not usual that somebody gets $100 million is such a failure, you know, necessarily. Sports, for my knowledge, in like watching.

[A]

The football, this is like going full circle. Watching that Manti Tao football thing, I really think a lot. Most sports, but especially football, I think is like such where your heart and your head are and it has to be aligned. And like I think if you're not there, it's like you're, you know, so that. That's why Tom Brady, who really seems to be like a really loving father and partner and everything and like that maybe that's why he is. I mean, besides having talent. But like you can't just have the talent. Like you've got to have all those other things. And yeah. Something in his heart and his head aren't totally.

[B]

So I would messed up in his mind. I would ask a really stupid question, I guess because I would be like, you'd be the. Why? Why weren't you better? You know, like, you know, like for real. Like. Yeah, it's. And because if you look at anything related to him, his. The fans for all of his teams hate him the most. So something like the memes are like smoking J. Kelly like he's just smoking a cigarette, like doesn't give a F. Like.

[A]

Yeah. So I mean, maybe someone for someone like him might have been like, God, you know, I had this beautiful wife who's not Only famous, but she's successful in her own right. I have these three perfect kids. We're really rich. People want us to. That were family goals or this that. And I'm miserable. What's wrong with me? I mean, maybe he's like, literally like that. Like, why. Why am I such, like, an. Why am I such, like, a grumpy piece of poo?

[B]

So. Yeah, I don't. It's a good question. I would not be grumpy with his van count. That's what.

[A]

Right.

[B]

You know, it's like, I wouldn't be on that. Sophia's podcast either. That was my point of the Tick tock.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

Like, if I had a hundred million dollars. You're not catching me on Sophia's podcast.

[A]

Well, they had some chemistry, so I didn't know what was going on there.

[B]

She's definitely got a boyfriend.

[A]

Okay. Well, I'm just saying. Okay, so let's see. I just wanted to ask you about. Okay, so this. Speaking of which. So this guy Stephen, that was. That was Kristen's Love on the Laguna Beach. Now they're doing a show about it. So have you listened to it at all? Because you weren't on Laguna Beach.

[B]

I wasn't, no.

[A]

Do you know these players, being that you were just on the Hills.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm definitely gonna listen.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

To make tick tocks and get, you know, clout. And I did one. I did one tick tock, even reference this. And I think it, you know, did a million puzzles. Like, oh, I'm gonna do a whole recap of their recap. Recap. That podcast.

[A]

I like it.

[B]

But, yeah, I love it because I know how much this must hate lc. So it's like my favorite podcast.

[A]

Oh, because you like Kristen, but you still.

[B]

I mean, I don't. But I do enjoy the fact that if you go back and they talk it through.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Like they were in the relationship and, you know, like, I rewatched the show because before they recapped it, Heidi and I podcast recapped that it wasn't as exciting, obviously.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And so I did watch this first season. I was like, this is nuts how Elsie comes in on this relationship as this third, you know, on Laguna Beach. Yeah. On Laguna Beach. So I love that it's being brought back because it's like, oh, Elsie's this innocent, sweet little Elsie. It's like, oh, let's have. So I hope they're talking about. I don't think Kristen's holding her, you know, tongue, like, about this. So I do need to listen.

[A]

But, I mean, I do think it's really fun if you watched it and then, you know, if you're a fan of all the stuff that you're juicy.

[B]

To see, so they're included. Cabo.

[A]

Now, I talk a lot about Britney Spears, but I just want to talk. I haven't talked about it in a little bit. I haven't talked about her with you in a while.

[B]

So this is. This is fresh because Heidi and I were just listening to the audio tapes of her talking to her kids and.

[A]

Right. And so let me just get people, because we. I don't know if I. I talked a little bit. Well, first I taught. Last time I talked about her, I said I didn't like that she posted about saying, like, I'm fine with the boys not coming over anymore. I don't want. I have dogs, and I have a pool, and I have a husband. I don't need to worry whether you're coming or not. And then when you come, you just go in your room. And as a mom of teenage boys, I was like, I just think that's such a mistake. And I don't think you got to give your boys. You got to give your kid. It's not about you as a parent. You got to fucking suck it up. It's like when Alec Baldwin called Ireland Baldwin and called her little pig. She, like, skipped their weekend. Like, shut up. Up. Okay? Your divorced parents, your kid is a teen. And magnify it by Hollywood. Like, just so then right after that is when Kevin Federline released these tapes of where she was talking to the boys, and the boys had taped her talking to them and scolding them on their iPhone. Now, when I first heard it, I was like. Then I listened to it again, and pretty much the consensus was like, we're pro Britani. Like, a lot of moms were like, we get it. The frustration you have and everything. So it definitely, I don't think, made Kevin look good for releasing them. What did you think? You felt differently?

[B]

No. They weren't enough to be like, oh, my gosh. Yeah, I just got a kick out of that. She was one of the arguments. So she was like, you're embarrassing me not wearing shoes into something I'm like, coming from. The girl is famous for, like, not wearing shoes in the public.

[A]

She goes, what? Yeah, you're right. She goes, what is wrong? But I think she was saying because they were in Alaska. Now, I don't know if it was the winter of Alaska or summer of Alaska. She goes, yes, because what is wrong with you, Jaden? You're in an ice cream shop with no shoes on in Alaska. What is wrong with you? And you're right. I totally forgot about the fact that she was barefoot at every gas station bathroom. You're right.

[B]

So that. That's the type of stuff I get a kick out of.

[A]

But oh, my God, I forgot about that.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, I didn't like any of that. That it went. And here's like, my thought process with the idea. I was like, well, I hope not, but the dad is going to start looking not good here in a second.

[A]

Kevin.

[B]

No, Britney's dad. Like, if.

[A]

Oh, Jamie.

[B]

I'm just worried that, like, well, Jamie looks bad now. No, I'm worried he's gonna start looking like he was in.

[A]

Oh, he's gonna look. Start like, good that he protected.

[B]

Like, if it just starts going like, that was kind of like, like, you.

[A]

Know, like, maybe some people will be like, maybe Jamie, the dad did know it was best for Britney.

[B]

That was like, I was my concern, which obviously is not so many things, but you start airing out your teenage sons on social media. This like, whoa.

[A]

Right. Well, I think. I mean, I. I think they both looked bad in that because the kids should always come first.

[B]

My first actual thought, because I have so much unreleased Kevin Fatherland footage that I wanted to go through, and I was like, do I have something of him talking smack about, like, you know, I wanted to counter it and post it.

[A]

Well, I. I did see a video of like, some porn star that was on Howard Stern years ago where she talked about how she slept with Kevin. With Kevin Federline and that they did it on the kids baby blanket. The kids, like, weren't watching, but she was just. And so people were like, really? And Kevin's supposed to be this, like, great parent, or maybe the kid was present, but like they were asleep or something and she snuck over and they like, boned in the playroom. I don't know.

[B]

But like, I was like, do I have these tapes? Where are my tapes?

[A]

So what is. What is he saying? Can't you.

[B]

Well, no, I have. I filmed. So for. When Kevin and Brittany first, like, got together, Brody and I were still living at Casablanca, David Foster's mansion and Malibu retreat.

[A]

Malibu.

[B]

And Brittany was the next door neighbor. So we were hanging out with Kevin Federline every day because he was using. Using David's recording studio to do his rap album. And this. He was so famous. So I just have my camera that I was just filming Prince of album. I Was like I'm just pointing it hoping in my head I'm thinking maybe I get the Kevin Federline Britney show. This is before they even dropped that chaotic.

[A]

Yes, they did have like a 13 episode.

[B]

Yeah. I was thinking before that even happened, I was like, oh, maybe I can get in. So I have so much footage and I But I never. Brittany did come over a couple times but I didn't. I was like didn't pop up the camera yet. But so yeah I started racking my.

[A]

Aren't you the one who told me though during those days that she would like just walking naked. Just walking and look full naked.

[B]

Full badge two people that I definitely believe. It was not like at the time this was so, you know, it was pretty. Like just walk downstairs butt naked knowing people were there.

[A]

Not like, oops, no. Okay.

[B]

And you know I'm not which is I support all that energy. Whatever you want to do is great. I'm not judging anyone but based off of what she posts on IG how much she loves being naked. Yeah it now to me I'm like, they weren't lying, right?

[A]

You know she likes being naked and.

[B]

I I cannot figure out if she does not know onlyfans would she make millions like in a day even with the photo she's posting on Instagram where she like puts a star on her nipple. Like so I'm wondering if she gets so much money from IG because you do get paid on reels. So maybe she thinks like she's making so much money on her reels.

[A]

So like if I got I hope she's making money.

[B]

That's. This is so much money. I'm like, you do this on OnlyFans without going full naked and you have so much money. Like we're like, I mean I'm just.

[A]

Have a photo of her here. It's in what appears to be that same Cheesecake Factory house. And like literally the top could see through. Could not be a 99 cent. You know, like not even a dollar top. But here's my thing. I thought this girl backwards Barbie Woods. I think it is backward backwoods Barbie. That's about. And anyway I you know she does like a lot of deep, deep dives and stuff. And she's not the only one that I've heard this from is that they no one has found the marriage license of between she and Sam. If somebody hasn't correct me, correct me. I'm not saying I'm 100%, you know, CNN News Source. But like so and there are Hollywood Stars that get married, but they don't really get married because of, like, financial situations. So I think that's weird. I also think it's weird that there was one time she went out and she was with this assistant named Vicki, and she was like, finally, I can have a glass of wine. I'm having wine at a restaurant and da, da, da, da. At, like, out in Thousand Oaks or Westlake somewhere. And I'm like, there isn't one person in this restaurant that, like, took a photo, did a TikTok about it, said, I was there, I waited on her. She was great. Not one paparazzi got a photo. Not one person taking a photo and giving it to someone. If she's able to, like, go out and get her nails done and say all the things she wanted, why has no one said, I've seen her out?

[B]

It's weird. But then I just watched a TikTok about, I think Perez posted, and I didn't. It was hard for me to even believe, but he was saying that Taylor Swift has a full life where she goes out and does things and people. And I was like, that's. I don't believe that.

[A]

What do you mean? She goes out to a restaurant and the whole restaurant gets paid off? Not without it. No.

[B]

Like, they, like, no to, like, these. Like, they respect.

[A]

There's no way in this day and age when every single person is doing and that there isn't somebody that's just even doing a positive little TikTok about. How I saw Britney have her first glass of wine out. There isn't one. Like, what is it? And then I'm like, and where is that Vicki girl? Because I one time did something about how Chris and I saw one of her spinning photos, and in the back there appeared to be a dog. Like a little dog. And we're like, okay, come on. You know? Like, really, you're posting a photo of the dog? Anyway, she posted the Vicky girl under my video. It wasn't a dog shit. It was a leaf. I know, because I took the video and I'm like, well, if you're taking the video and you're the assistant, get the fucking leaf out of the way, okay? Like, you're not doing a great job anyway. I don't know where that Vicky girl is now. Like, I just. There's something. So I don't know. Like, I thought we cracked the case, and then she was freed, and now I feel like there's a whole nother case. I really don't know what's going. I really don't know what's going on. But I think it's so bizarre that she's supposedly in this new house, but we're only seeing videos of the old house and like these. And she's still doing all the strange posts and. But she's not. And then what was this Elton John song? Someone's like, here's the Elton John song. But then I never heard it again. Did she do the Elton John song?

[B]

I mean, I heard that. I thought I heard it, but are.

[A]

You hearing it on the radio or anything? Like I listen to normal radio and I'm not hearing it, but maybe I'm missing it. Anyway, I. I wish her all the best. I am not like ripping on her. I'm just like, I just don't understand what's going on here.

[B]

Did you already address the whole Selena Gomez like sub shade where Selena Gomez where like sh. Shirt with like the mental health or something?

[A]

No. What was that?

[B]

And then it ends up she's like started thinking that her mom was like working with Selena Gomez and like, who did?

[A]

Britney?

[B]

Yeah, you didn't catch Britney.

[A]

Wait, just explain from the beginning what you're trying to say.

[B]

Now my brain is three weeks old on it. So it's old scoop, but pretty much in totally convoluted, mixed up way. Selena Gomez was at the wedding and then wore something about like mental health, a shirt. And then like Britney posted something saying that, you know, oh, Selena and my mom, Dada, I'm gonna mess this up too.

[A]

She thought Selena and her mom were like in it together.

[B]

And like the mom was working through Selena to like help with Britney.

[A]

I mean it's just weird.

[B]

But then another thing that Heidi got a kick out of that. She, she like did a post about like, I don't need famous people. Da da da da. Be like, yeah, only people at your wedding were like clout people, right?

[A]

Like Madonna and everybody just clout people at your wedding.

[B]

But then you do a post like, I don't need this industry. All these famous. I'm saying, wait.

[A]

I almost feel like she like woke up like nine days or five a week before the wedding. Was like, I want to get married today, daddy. Like, I feel like it's very much like Charlie and the Chalk Factory with. What was the girl thing? That was Violet. Yeah, with Violet. And like everyone's just like, all right, okay, we get married today, you know? And like, and then she gets married and like, where's the marriage license? And everyone just goes and okay. And then like Sam is like, okay, I'm gonna go to the gym for four hours. You spin and then I come back and we, we watch a movie. Okay. And like, I was like, what? It just seems so bizarre. This message is brought to you by today's sponsor, Walden University. Set A Course for Change. Want to make real change in your life, career and community? At Walden University, we give you the support and flexibility to get the W. With online programs designed for working professionals. You'll gain hands on skills to take on real world challenges and succeed. Your future is waiting, and Walden is here to help you achieve it. Walden University is where working professionals like you get the W, the knowledge, the skills and the confidence to make the changes you want to see in your career and community. With Walden's Tempo learning, you're in control. No set weekly deadlines, no rigid schedules. Just the flexibility to progress toward your degree at your own pace. Available in select programs. Gain practical skills through real world scenarios that prepare you to make a positive impact on others. Learn from Walden's faculty, scholars and practitioners with real world experience to share. 94% of whom hold doctoral degrees. Take the first step. Visit Waldenu. Edu Walden University set A Course for Change Certified to operate by Chevre when the holidays start to feel a bit repetitive, reach for a Sprite Winter Spiced Cranberry and put your twist on tradition. A bold cranberry and winter spice flavor Fusion Sprite Winter Spice Cranberry is a refreshing way to shake things up this sipping season, and only for a limited time. Sprite Obey your thirst. Ford Bluecruise Hands free. Highway driving takes the work out of being behind the wheel, allowing you to relax and reconnect while also staying in control. Enjoy the drive in Bluecruise enabled vehicles like the F150 Explorer and Mustang Mach E. Available feature on equipped vehicles. Terms apply. Does not replace safe driving. See Ford.com BlueCruise for more details. Okay, this was kind of interesting. So you've heard about the Jeanette McCurdy book? Have you heard about it? She was from Sam and Cat, that Nickelodeon show.

[B]

Oh, she's the one that wrote and talked about Ariana Grande. And then like, those photos were wild, I started getting creeped out.

[A]

Oh, about all the Dan Schneider stuff, the producer of it. And how he's obsessed with the foot fetish and so, so disgusting.

[B]

And were parents not watching the show? And I guess parents aren't.

[A]

You know what's interesting? And I don't mean to pat myself on the back, but I will, but I remember when those shows were on because I have older kids. And I remember I was like, I don't like these shows. Why is this. Why are there storylines about a 12 year old that has like a wig on? Like, she had like long blonde hair, fake eyelashes, full makeup, she looked like she was 40. And she's supposed to be like. And they'd be like fighting about how like their 13 year old boyfriend cheated on them and they're gonna catch him cheating. And I'm like, wait, what? Like, who has relationships like this? And everyone just watched the shows because, I mean, that's what it is. You just get fed this stuff and then all of a sudden in your brain you're like, oh, I guess it is normal to do this or whatever. So her book is really, really good. And part of it in it was like her saying, you know, I didn't really want to be a child star. This Jeanette. I didn't want to act as a kid, but my mom wanted to. And so she put her dream on her daughter. And even when she tried to say, mom, I don't really want to do this anymore, she was like, would give so much pressure. She's like, but you love it. You love it. You're so good at it. You have to do it. You love it. What are you talking about? And then she's like, okay, I guess I love it. And so it's kind of interesting to think of like other child stars where they oftentimes they defend their childhood and they go, no, I begged my mother to do this, you know, and you're like, but did you like. I don't know, it's just so. It's like so strange. And so I came across this Amanda Bynes who's suffered a lot of mental issues. And I remember the first time I saw Amanda Bynes, I had this manager and I was doing standup and she put in this VHS tape and shows. You got to see this kid. She just did stand up at the Laugh Factory and like someone wrote her an act and she did stand up at the Laugh Factory and then she was like, discovered and she had all these shows. And in this particular interview I saw on TikTok, they were like, they said after she played she's the man she thought she looked. So she hated so much the way she looked, like as a boy, because they had her pretend to be a boy, which obviously could never work today. Like, you know, it was like a tootsie type of a situation, or White Chicks for that matter, where she's pretending to be the Opposite sex. And. And she. That she like had an identity crisis because of it. And that's kind of where then she. That was sort of like the last thing she did. So crazy. And I'm like, ugh. Anyway, I, I think it's really interesting when I think about the Selena Gomez, the Britney. Well, Demi Lovato now just is talking.

[B]

About a juror and I have a child star. So one of my things as a, you know, child stars, I always try to say, would you like to be in this photo? Do you want to be in this video? And Gunner will say yes or no. Sometimes, no, I don't want to be in it. Or he'll say, yeah, film me, you know. Okay, so we already said if you don't want to be in it.

[A]

I mean, I love that. But like. And I think you're treating it great because I think a lot of parents are having the luxury of exploiting their kids without the, the rules that there are for like if they got a sitcom role or something where they, their money goes, you know, the Coogan Law or whatever it's called, where they can't just take their money. Like they could in the past, but like when I was a child, I was, I had an agent and my. So did my sisters. And my one sister was blonde and blue eyed and had freckles and she booked all the time, my sister Shannon and. And I like never booked. And my mom did make me feel kind of bad about it. I mean, I remember I would just be so tired by the time she put my hair in pigtails and then put me in these overalls and then drove me from Woodland Hills to like Hollywood and Vine. And then I waited in this long line and then I'd come in this room and they'd be like, what's your favorite something? And I'd be like, I don't know. And they'd be like, they get rid of me. And then I'd be like dancing and doing characters at home. And my mom would be like, why can't you do this on an audition? I wasted my whole day taking you there. And I was like, oh my God, you're right. And so, you know, and then also my, I mean, my sister, like, she made a lot of money at commercials and I mean, we did get an addition after that to our house. So I mean, I mean, she's fine.

[B]

And did you like going back part of the house? I mean, like, is it a TV room?

[A]

But I mean, it was like. But I kind of did think about how Like, I did feel like, wow, I really wasted my mom's time by not booking this thing. And I'm like. To look back, and I wasn't even doing it much. Like, at shortly after that, my mom got into real estate because she was like, you guys aren't gonna pay for it. Like, I gotta make some real.

[B]

So we made the Hills pay Gunner. So he had a bank account. So, yeah, all the money. We didn't take a cut. So I'm not, like, a percentage.

[A]

No. But I'm saying, like, I think in your search, it's different than, like, really, where the kid has to, like, learn on the lines. And for some kids, it's like, some kids become Ron Howard, but very few do. Like, you know, and it's like, another one's strong.

[B]

Maybe he regrets it, too, though. Maybe he's like, I was supposed to be something different.

[A]

I doubt that, because then Bryce got to benefit from it, too, anyway. Who's Bryce? Bryce Howard. His daughter.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

Like, I mean, come on.

[B]

Is she on?

[A]

Yeah, she's in the Jurassic park things, bitching that she's not making as much as Chris Pratt.

[B]

That makes that story so much better.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Tell your dad to call somebody. Maybe your dad told him not to pay you too much because he didn't want it to look like nepotism.

[A]

I don't know. Yeah.

[B]

Wow. Thank you for that. So we just saw Chris Pratt at the farmer's market.

[A]

Did you say hi?

[B]

Of course I did.

[A]

He's my cousin in real life.

[B]

As far as anybody ever asked me. Yes. On all interviews for the rest of my life.

[A]

Is there any connection? Do you know?

[B]

I mean, we can't have the same last name and not be connected, so, you know, I don't.

[A]

But you've never really done it.

[B]

I mean, I haven't, like, studied our tree.

[A]

You need to be on what do you know who you really are? What's that show with him? Or what if they figured it out that you guys are like.

[B]

I did say that. When people ask him, are we related? He says, yes, even if he's just making me feel better about it. But he has said that, which is nice to meet. Kristrap fan forever.

[A]

I love it.

[B]

But I made sure because Gunner loves Jurassic Park. Gunner only called him Owen, and he was like, that was amazing. Yeah, it was.

[A]

That's really cute.

[B]

I know. He was so. His wife was so scared that Heidi and I were gonna, like, film them. And, like, she. I know. I could feel that she and his.

[A]

Wife is the Schwarzenegger daughter. What's her name again? Catherine. Yeah.

[B]

And the energy, you know, I have psychic powers and I knew, like, psychic hits, like, please don't ask for a photo. Please don't video, you know, And I was just. I felt it so hard that I made a point to not put them on any of my stories. Which do you feel like? Or a TikTok that would have been just a banger. TikTok Cousins at the farmer's market. Like, oh, it was so hard.

[A]

Do you feel like sometimes when people come up to you, you almost want to just cut to the chase and go, you want to get a photo?

[B]

I start with that.

[A]

Yeah. Right.

[B]

When somebody comes up, I go, do you want to get a photo or a video? Why else are we chatting? Let's get some content. Oh, my God, I love it.

[A]

Let's save everyone's day. Let's move the hell on.

[B]

But then they. Recently we had a nice drunk lady at Don Antonio's sit down for half the meal, and it was like, Gunner finally said, like, is she gonna leave? I was like, gunner, don't be rude. She was very nice and drunk, but it was a long, long chat.

[A]

I once sat down with Jerry Seinfeld and this writer guy, and it still haunts me to this day. No, when I was, like, not famous or anything, when I was just a thirsty bitch hoping that he might want to date me, I did that.

[B]

Jennifer Aniston.

[A]

Like, you really wanted to hear about some young female comic that hadn't made a dollar in the business? No. I mean, but then when it's happened to me, I am like, oh, my God, I know this person is so good hearted. But, like, honestly, can we just.

[B]

I wasn't good hearted. I just sat down drunk with Jennifer Aniston right When she, like, found out that she was being cheated on and was like, with Angelina. And I was like, angelina is horrible. You deserve so much better. Brody's the witness to this.

[A]

And then how do you feel about. Now they're in the news about their breakup, and now we know that from the reports that he actually was pretty volatile and angry. If you want to believe the reports in the plane. Brad Pitt.

[B]

I don't trust Maddox. I'll keep that story going. I don't.

[A]

Maddox seems so the story is that we now know about the infamous plane flight.

[B]

We don't know. The files haven't been released on redacted.

[A]

Well, what I've read of the reports is that they're on the private plane and they started to fight about Something. And he said, you mom is going to ruin this family. They went into the bathroom to fight some more and to argue, and he punched the ceiling, like, three times. And the kids were like, are you okay? Maybe that's when he said, your mom's going to ruin this family. And I think that's when there might have been a confrontation with most likely Maddox between the two of them and where they, like, felt they had to land the plane and everything. And that he had drank heavily that day. And. And she didn't say.

[B]

He.

[A]

I don't think he said she. He hit her, but he said, like, he grabbed her or he pushed her. And so she had. In the reports there were some visible, like, bruises, like, on her back and stuff where, like, maybe she could have been pushed into something. And. And he said. And he also said about one of their kids. And you say, who? That kid looks like a Columbine kid that was in it. And that was like, whoa. That's when she was like, I'm done.

[B]

That was the line that I was like, this isn't a source quote. Like, that's too good of a life.

[A]

Like a weird. Like, too specific of a thing. And that's when she was like, we're done. And then he was probably like, you're gonna. You're gonna break us up. Oh, your mom's gonna ruin this family. Like, because she was just like, it was probably building up over the last few years of just her being like, I'm not real happy. And so. Yeah, so I think. But I think the final thing was that the FBI was not going to pursue it anymore. And I don't know where they are in the just like, long, awful, drawn out divorce. The kids are all going to be 18 by the time they settle this custody battle. So, like, like, how many more years are there even left? But it. Hey.

[B]

So, yes, if I see Angelina, I plan on sitting at the table and being like, you know, Brad's horrible.

[A]

Yeah, you shouldn't have stolen from. From Jen.

[B]

Yeah, you guess. Guess we all saw this coming.

[A]

Yeah, you got what you. Speaking of other horrible couples, Tom Girardi and Erika Jane's house, the auction. TMZ is saying the estate auction has started and there's lots of stuff to sell to buy. Art, very expensive, rare piano, all this other stuff. But I do want to say where in one of the episodes he goes, I got you something for your eyes. She's like, for my eyes? And it's a Chagall, like some really expensive painting. And I just wonder where it is now, because they're saying if anything that might have been clearly purchased with the victim's money, which is basically everything needs to be returned.

[B]

And that's not on the list.

[A]

I don't know. What. Yeah, like, they're not mentioning that. I want to.

[B]

I mean, there has to be. Like we've said before, there has to be the buried suitcase in the back, you know, like. Right.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

Like, maybe it happened so fast. If she wasn't in on it, it. She didn't prepare.

[A]

Who knows?

[B]

There's so many good stories.

[A]

There's so many. Okay. Did you see Christine Quinn? Oh, no longer coming back to Selling Sunset. And according to this article by the Daily Mail, Selling Sunset producers are scrambling to find a new villain after her departure, and they're thinking maybe Chelsea, the. The English girl from London, the pretty black girl, that maybe she would be the villain.

[B]

So yesterday, I reached out to the creator Adam Novillo's representation, and I said, you know, as a good husband, you know, Heidi's about to pass the real estate. She just did the first three parts and just has one little thing left. How great would it be for Heidi to come on as the new villain on Selling Sunset?

[A]

And what happened? What'd they say?

[B]

You know, not all, but after all.

[A]

Your history with him, you really think he wants to hire you again?

[B]

Just, you know, I think it would change show, you know, how bridges that have been burned can be rebuilt, you know, with.

[A]

With dollars.

[B]

It's. It's Hollywood. So, you know, and I'm sure, you know, Christine Quinn would not want to hear this, but the reality is she looks like she's doing very well financially and doesn't need to have a Netflix TV show.

[A]

I think that. I think she's the one who chose.

[B]

Oh, definitely. I watch her story. She doesn't need.

[A]

So, yeah, I think she's fine.

[B]

Yeah. But I'm saying Heidi could benefit greatly from being on a Netflix series. So, yes. I mean, I think it's gonna happen.

[A]

Listen, this will be some. You know, we'll all. We'll all watch it. I felt the sec. The last season was pretty dull to watch, actually. I was pretty, like, bored by it. So I don't know if the. If it's kind of like the crescendo might be down, but I think if Heidi joins, it could go back up. I think it's going down with. I think you need to change it up a little bit and, like, have some. Some different people and stuff.

[B]

Well, she could sell Some smaller houses. Yeah, she could get in, like the trailer park type, you know, she can join.

[A]

She go to the.

[B]

There's really expensive trailers in Malibu.

[A]

Now, listen, I want to talk about this juicy story. Brooklyn Beckham. He has over 70 tattoos dedicated to his young wife.

[B]

Oh, I didn't. This is scoop. I didn't know this.

[A]

And they've been saying how there's been stories about how posh his mom isn't as fond as the dog of the daughter in law, that the daughter in law has the Beckham name, that the daughter in law might be wanting to get in a fashion. Other people say it's not true. I just thought it was kind of interesting because then, you know those tiktoks where someone goes around and they're like, in getting into a gorgeous car, and the guy's like, hey, I just want to know, what do you do for a living? Now, I did not see this, but from what I gathered, somehow he was. Stopped doing that. And he goes, Brooklyn Beckham goes, oh, I'm a chef. And then chefs came out, were like, he's not a chef. Like, what? He's not, you know. And then this other guy.

[B]

Well, he's a YouTube chef.

[A]

Well, this other guy kind of did a joke about. His name's Patrick Cashmore. And he was like, I'm gonna make my ham for my wife. And it was pretty funny. But he kind of said something before he did this bit, and he was like, you know, do we feel sorry for a kid that's like that privileged? Because now everyone's like, you're not a chef.

[B]

You know, he was just a photographer.

[A]

And he said he was a photographer. And it's like all things that anyone can kind of do. Like, it's not like you have to go to school for it or, you know, become a dentist or learn how to be a plastic surgeon or be an architect or even be a developer, you know, like, and really understand how to do it. Like so. But at the same thing, I mean, what are these kids supposed to do? And then they fall in love, and then his whole life is just loving this girl. And tattooing. I mean, I don't know. It's like, it's. Even though he's so, so privileged in some ways, I did kind of feel badly for him that, like, everyone's making fun of his chef thing just cause he. Like, what else is he gonna say? I mean, I guess he could say, you know, nothing. I'm really lucky to be married. You know, born into, like a super, super Two super successful parents.

[B]

I mean, well, she's a billionaire, right?

[A]

And I married a billionaire wife. Like, I mean, I just hope to be, like, a cute guy with tattoos and put some smiles on some faces. I don't know. What are you supposed to say? But, I mean, I think it might.

[B]

The other son is, like, you know, in the MLS and playing professional soccer.

[A]

So that's also harder if the brother's doing it and you're not.

[B]

He should have sang. He looks like Harry Styles or something.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, he's cute, but I love that.

[B]

Yeah. No, I just love the Variety. I think was a Variety or Holly Reporter had him on the COVID and it was like the new Brooklyn Beckham behind his cooking empire. You know, I was like, gosh, like, right. I was cooking on Snapchat and he.

[A]

Was just really cooking.

[B]

Like, no, he has, like, a YouTube channel now, and it's like, oh, that's where I.

[A]

But it is. Yeah, it is simple stuff.

[B]

It's Empire.

[A]

Yeah. I found this to be really interesting. You remember the Goslings? They were the.

[B]

I keep telling Heidi that she's gonna be H plus 8 because she keeps wanting to have more kids. I'm like, what is happening here?

[A]

So there were eight kids in Kate plus eight. They ended up hating each other, getting divorced. There were the two older twin girls who are 21 now, and then there's the six that are, like, 18 now. And two of the six left and lived with the dad, one girl and one boy. And the boy, Colin, actually, you know, the mom was really mean and. Or supposedly was mean and, like, had him live in, like, a group home for a while. And the dad fought to get him out of the group home to live with him. And the kid seems to be doing much better now and lives with one of the sisters. And then. And she's got the four others. And he went out to say that she took both of their money. Colin and Hannah, who live with him, both of their money. That they were, like, 150 from each of them. He said when they were 18, she took it to buy this house that was like, she put 750 down for. And then she went on to defend herself and say, you know, what are you talking about? That I. I spent so much money. You owe me for child support. And I spent so much money on their private school and on their food and their uniforms. And people came forward and they were like, what are you saying? Like, that's not a kid's responsibility to pay for, like, their sixth grade. Education, like, what the hell are you talking about? So anyway, I just thought, like, just. This is just. So this is. Now I want to see this reality show. Like, now I want to see all the kids that. Now the kids are 18. Let's hear their story. Let's hear them, like, talk about it. They should go rewatching the episodes. Maybe that'd probably be too painful.

[B]

Maybe not like Kristen and.

[A]

Yeah, maybe it's too painful when you're just, like, a little kid being, like, having cameras chase you and your parents, like, bitch at each other. Your mom had that horrible hairdo. That's probably too traumatic.

[B]

We dressed. We did. We were them for Halloween. It was a great Halloween costume.

[A]

Oh, God. Remember that? They're just miserable. Let me see what else I want to talk about. Pete Davidson is now stuck with the branding of Kim Kardashian's name for life. Because you can't get rid of the branding.

[B]

You brand over it.

[A]

No, you can. Unless you just want one big swelling thing.

[B]

No, you've. An artist would take that and then make a new brand and include the. Like, if it said Kim or whatever, her initials, and it would make a new art piece.

[A]

I think he'd just leave it. Who cares? It was a pretty exciting time because.

[B]

All the girls he's with now, like, oh, my God.

[A]

My God, I'm this close to Kim Kardashian.

[B]

Also.

[A]

It's like. It's, like, right here, like, on his chest, meshed around with a bunch of things. It's barely legible.

[B]

All these guys with a thousand tattoos that, like, I got your name on. It's like, where?

[A]

Yeah, like, who cares?

[B]

So here's what's so funny. Somebody dead serious. I'm not gonna say who. Alex, this guy, he. He messaged me, and he's like, did Kim beat up Pete? I'm like, what? And he's like, that's what they're talking about on set today. I'm like. I was like, is this, like, I haven't seen this on Tick Tock. I haven't seen him. But, like, that's how wild this world is that people.

[A]

That was a rumor start that she beat him up.

[B]

Maybe it was just on this show.

[A]

There was a lot of video of where she. She. There's two times on the Kardashians where she beat up her sisters. One with the purse, and then one was on Courtney. And then there was another one where she and Courtney and she had, like, a bob and, like, black lather reset, and she was. They were like, really beating the shit out of each other. And you know what? I did think it was weird. I thought it was like, wow, you know, like, that you're so. And I'm not accusing her of doing this to anyone else but her sister. Those two times that we caught on video. Right. But I do think that I remember thinking, my God, like, I've never. I mean. I mean, the last time I, like, put a hand on my sister, we.

[B]

Were like, eight, you know, I know that clip. I watched, like, four times.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I was like, this show is so good.

[A]

Yeah. But kind of where the rumor started.

[B]

But still, I was like, well, speaking.

[A]

Of Kim, this came up, and someone's like, can you please address this Heather? This is Kim with a bunch of designer bags around her, and she writes, who wants to shop like me for $130,000? Yes, you guys, Just like before, one of you can win 130,000 on a preloaded credit card to spend however you like. Buy a new car, travel, shop. It's up to you. Biggest giveaway. And then add. And the comments were like, this one person said, I participated once and was inundated with spam. And now every time I think I've unsubscribed to all of them, they sell their email list again, and I have a whole new batch. It's infuriating. They don't mention they will sell your email to any advertisers.

[B]

I got Shadow banned for doing one of these a couple years ago. Ever since.

[A]

You mean you did it?

[B]

Oh, I did one of these. Like, a company paid.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Paid me to do exact same kind of thing. Giveaway lap. The whole thing looks exactly like this.

[A]

The whole way you enter in the giveaway is that you follow a bunch of companies, and the companies, you can't blame them, pay because they're like, oh, my God, I'm starting a new brand and I need to at least have 50,000 followers. How do I get it? Oh, well, everyone pays whatever, $20,000, and we guarantee you'll get this many followers because these people will follow. And most like, they won't stop following you, you know? So what happened?

[B]

So I did that, got paid, and then within the next day, all my numbers, all my engagement just stopped. Like, goes to zero, where only clearly, I got flagged by the algorithm. And then the company's like, hey, can you change the tags? Those accounts were deleted. So those counts that were even being tagged get, like, deleted.

[A]

You mean the. The actual brands.

[B]

Yeah, that you're supposed to, like, come and so that's how, you know, she got away with this. But this is not, you know, because she's Kim. But this is like an actual controversial thing on Instagram where they're not down with these.

[A]

But do. Do you know if anybody actually wins the $130,000? Because I was reading the comments and they're like, I think it's people they know. And like, where is that person? Like, where's the person?

[B]

I'm the Kim. 130. Yeah.

[A]

Like, if you were the person, you got the 130,000, why wouldn't you be doing a TikTok about it? And you're like, oh, my God, I did this thing. I got. Here's my card. I got 130,000. I know people don't think they're real, but I literally did it. And you know what? If they're going to keep doing it, they should literally hire someone to win. Nobody got it before. Maybe have a fake winner give her. I don't know. I don't think anything should be deceptive. But like. Like, it's weird. Just like the net. Just like the people that have never seen Britney out having a glass of.

[B]

Wine, like, so that's your whole conspiracy. I'm missing this. Like, that still since she's been released, she's not out and about.

[A]

I don't think she's out and about. I don't. I mean, I thought about that wine dinner and I'm like, I just can't believe that no one has been like, I saw her or we did this.

[B]

That's what I've been saying from day one. Why hasn't she gone shopping? Like, rodeo hit up all the spots.

[A]

Why doesn't she enter this thing?

[B]

I just tagged.

[A]

And the winner is. Hi, all. It's me.

[B]

Yeah, it's so strange.

[A]

I'm like, so you did that thing once where you're like, shop for money, shop for money. And then after that, you're like, I won't take those deals anymore.

[B]

Not I've said no to. Which is hard because it's like.

[A]

I mean, I'm honestly kind of.

[B]

She got $5 million for that.

[A]

I think she has to have gotten lot. But I'm actually was sort of surprised because I'm like, you know, and in going back, because I talked about Bethany's criticism the Kardashians, and I was like, then people like, you defend the Kardashians.

[B]

Too much about the makeup thing. That was a little.

[A]

No. But then she went off and was like, you know, when is it enough. How rich do you have to be? And like, she's a bad example for girls and all this other stuff. And I'm like, listen, I just don't think anyone should throw a stone when we all live in glass houses. I mean, like, really, especially you. That created a brand about culture, skinny girl about being skinny and like, you know, and you have shapers that make you skinny and jeans that make you skinny and food. And even she had like a sandwich meat thing that was supposed to make you skinny. Like, I was kind of like, okay. Like, I just kind of was like, just don't be a hypocrite about it. Whatever. You can just like. But I mean, sometimes I am kind of like, I know that sometimes the dollars are so much. But I was. I am kind of like, at a certain point, I would think that you would turn some stuff down. Kim.

[B]

I think the reality is that's gone now. Like, how what's gone? Like, an Instagram executive told me that a post on Instagram now is literally like throwing. Because there's a 2 billion people now when they merge it, throwing a rock in the. Like a pebble in the ocean. So to even be an impact on anyone's timeline, you'd have to post six photos that dated. Like, even. So she just put like, we're seeing it, but did anyone else see it? And that's. If you look at her engagement. What does she have? 200 million?

[A]

Well, let's just wait. Let's just go to it. So this was. No, wait. She has 470 million, right? No, no. So if you're gonna spend the money on it. Wait, where's that photo?

[B]

Out of her? Out of her 200 million-plus followers, 470, 000 people clicked something to make it look like an engagement, which there's people I like, things I don't even look at. How many? Yeah. 329 million people and only 470,000 people. Even 440, 000 people, like, actually pretended like they engaged on it. Like, I. I probably like that and don't even know. So.

[A]

Right.

[B]

She got $4 million for an invisible thing. Like that didn't imprint on anyone. So you and I are looking at it, but like, does it like this. Did that phase her brand? No way. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So that's my. I would say maybe it was more than five. Like, she could have got $10 million for that.

[A]

I mean, I guess the thought of. It's like, look, I don't know if anybody's gonna win, but how Much Am I hurting anybody? If they follow a bunch of brands that are just fashion and beauty related, like, how is it gonna hurt them? The only thing is that these people said, oh, but then you get in this like, email thing. But I don't know if that's true either because all she's saying is that you just have to follow them and, you know, I guess you could unfollow them the next day. But if nobody knows who actually wins, I don't know. I just need to know that someone said they actually won for that much.

[B]

Money, somebody's better say they're winning. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

It's just a weird. I love her and it's a weird amount. Like, it's a weird. What about her coming up?

[B]

Can't say what, but it's a big thing.

[A]

I was like, oh, it's going to be like some doc about it, say.

[B]

They know who to call. Okay, well, good. Yeah. Somehow. Yeah, yeah. Go Kim. Yay.

[A]

Like I said, I. I mean, I.

[B]

I'm gonna like and follow when I get home and give them my email.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. All right. Do you understand about Andrew Tate?

[B]

I do. And so I didn't. So I'm scrolling TikTok to the point where you couldn't scroll TikTok more, you know, where you get the notifications. It's like, you've been on TikTok.

[A]

I gotta get that guy. And I'm like, shut up.

[B]

Mind your business.

[A]

I know. I'm like, God. Like, I know it's only 11:20 and I started at 8:30.

[B]

Believe me, alone, there's so much knowledge here.

[A]

There's so much knowledge.

[B]

Hi. We were really recently with somebody and they were like their marriage was not doing well. And he says it's because my wife's scrolling on Tik Tok. And Heidi looks over me. I'm like, whoa, whoa. It's like just like, totally. Hey, like, relax. Like, it's like that. She's like, I know how you feel. Like, you know, I feel.

[A]

I honestly want to say, if you really want to get to know who your partner is or something in a. In like a fun way, be like, let's watch TikTok together, go to their fall there for you and see what's pops up. Like, if you're a guy and all of a sudden all your girl is seeing is like, girls that are like, I'm so happy I got divorced. I was married to a narcissist. You got to be like, what the hell is going on? Because, like, it's Whatever you're. You watch something of, then that's all that like keeps coming through. Like if you.

[B]

So I hope you're wrong because all I'm seeing right now, and I thought it was like sponsored ads, but all I'm seeing right now are these women that have lost weight because their husband was cheating on them. I'm like, is this because like I've. I. How does Tick tock know I'm trying to lose weight? What is this?

[A]

Right, Exactly. But so yes, okay. Is on all over TikTok and he's been banned now from TikTok, Facebook, Twitter, everything.

[B]

But when we say all over TikTok it was the most coordinated.

[A]

Wait, let me first explain who he is because I feel like we've just started to hear about. He was a kickboxer. Kickboxer, yes.

[B]

And he was on.

[A]

He was on Celebrity Long island or Big Brother. Celebrity Big Brother. And he. I kept seeing him popping up as guests on podcasts and stuff and giving his like kind of what they call this like, like rejuvenation of masculine energy and. Yes. And he started this school like Hustlers University which is you pay like $40 a month and but it's. But also you can make money by recruiting people to also join. So it had that multi level marketing element to it and you're supposed to get great knowledge of how to learn about how to make more money whether it's stocks or crypto. And. And then, and then there's others other part where he talks about like how. How to take control of your. Your romantic relationship with women that many people felt were really anti women, very misogynistic, really quite dangerous. And so now explain how he was banned by everything.

[B]

Yeah. Right now on TikTok. Now if any re uploads. So he actually didn't have an account like an on TikTok. All these were all uploads of his videos which I. The first one I saw this, my initial thought was God, I wish back in the hills day there was social media and I had paid and done this with Spidey content and like flooded, you know, because I mean you'd never see anything like it.

[A]

It.

[B]

He came like if he was an album being launched.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

It was the most amazing marketing just tsunami of content I've ever seen.

[A]

I just saw him everywhere.

[B]

I was like this is. It's like he took over, you know, it was the brilliance behind the actual. So that's what makes me think we're gonna see a documentary coming on Netflix. How he did this well, like my.

[A]

My son was kind of like, you know, what do you think of it? You know, And I was like, well, let me investigate. Like, I didn't know, you know, and there's like. Like this. This is the rise of. This was slightly. This. Anyway, this. I have it on my YouTube, but where it came, it was a TikTok thing I found. The rise of Andrew Tate is ruining my freshman boys. So this teacher wrote, have you heard of this sexist, misogynistic, disgusting excuse of a human being known as Andrew Tate? Well, I promise you, all your middle school and high school boys have. They're addicted to the content. Just this week I had six combos for with families about their son saying shit like, women are inferior to men. Women belong in the kitchen, miss da da da. So they feel like it's that type of thing that got him banned. That people were like, this is like so scary and dangerous. I'm thinking he was. It's like he looked around and was like, you know what no one's doing is emasculating. You know, everyone talks about like, don't emasculate men. Don't emasculate men. He kind of took it and was like, I'm going to emasculate men and I'm gonna do this thing that nobody else is really doing. Cuz there's a million women that are like, girl power. Empower women. There's a million things of that and there really isn't. And even like a Tony Robbins is not for a specific demographic. So he basically found this specific demographic that nobody else was doing this. And I don't even know that he truly feels this way. I think he just knew what would, like, get people to like, you know, react. And now I'm like, what's gonna be his next move now?

[B]

I think he made so much money he's out. Like, he could be out forever. I mean, he made millions.

[A]

If he had 80,000 people painting $40. But they did say there's no proof of how many people did this. But now why would. So then he must have shut down. Why would he? Isn't he in charge of the Hustler University? Like, why is it that they said that he shut it down?

[B]

Lawsuits probably.

[A]

Maybe.

[B]

I didn't know that part. I knew he'd been taken down.

[A]

I mean, my son understood it. He's 19 to be. He's like, no. He has this class where he teaches you how to make money. That's what he was told. It wasn't like, no, he has this class that teaches you. Breaks down how to, like, yeah, get a girl to do the dishes. Like, his view was that. And I'm thinking, like, wait, I thought this guy was just, like, kind of empowering men to, like, whatever, take control of their lives. I didn't know that it was, like, such a negative thing. But you're right. Maybe he made so much money off just doing this for a few months or whatever.

[B]

I mean, I, of course, always put myself in this. I was like, why didn't I think of that? Like, you know, it was so. It was so obvious. He was just saying, just outlandish, you know, I don't know every quote, so I don't need people like, right. Me. Like, he said this, but it's like.

[A]

Exactly stuff that was just awful, uncontroversial stuff. But, like, it was kind of like in the last couple weeks, where you're just, like, seeing it and hearing it, and you're kind of like, what is this? And so now we know.

[B]

He just went on. I watched half of it where he went on the Nelk Boys with the big YouTube guys. And, I mean, he's clearly a genius, you know, like, his dad was the most famous. Like, I don't know, his dad could remember everything, you know, and they. They. And everything he said, they. Fact check. Like, Andrew Tate said he was this top chess guy and they found him winning. So in all his, like, bs, there was so many, like, big, like, whoa. Like, that's true.

[A]

Like, yeah.

[B]

So it. It's. I can't wait for the documentary.

[A]

I mean, I think there is something. And even if it's controversial, where someone kind of sits around and all of a sudden they're like, you know, what no one's doing. And if you're, like, the first one that comes up with that, like, then go, like, all right, you know? But, I mean, hopefully it's not a hate group, but they felt this was almost a hate group against women. So I don't know. I don't know enough about it. So, like, don't.

[B]

That's right. That's exactly.

[A]

I'm fine that he's gone. My son didn't sign up. I literally just asked him about it, and I'm glad that he didn't, but I was just kind of curious, like, what is the deal? You know? And are your friends thinking he's great? And he was like, no, I think no one's going to pay $40 for that.

[B]

So that was my point. I just so impressed that he didn't have an account in my whole. For your page and every page. And. And everything was just to the point where that's what the Nelk boys were saying. Like, can you maintain. Do you think you can, or you just. 15 minutes. But it was such a powerful 50 minutes of content.

[A]

This was the last story. Apple Martin, which, by the way, written out, hashtag Apple Martin. That's Gwyneth Paltrow's daughter. It's like, if you just add an I at the end, her name would be Apple Martini.

[B]

They should have just.

[A]

Anyway, she had a big party at the Hamptons house. She had a big party at the Hamptons house. And who really cares? I just. I had that in there. Let's go back to your life because we got to wrap it up. So you guys are having your second story. This is Heidi's photo shoot about, like.

[B]

You know, let me say this delicately. So I was said to Heidi, I was like, oh, great, you're going to do the shoot. Like, make sure you get all the rights. The phone. She's like, oh, this person.

[A]

You get all the rights to photos.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, just. Okay.

[B]

You know, and she's.

[A]

Make sure it's her Instagram. Yeah, okay.

[B]

You know, that's just my thought. Anytime you go do a shoot or.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I said, have you talked about the. Right. Like, you know, right. Get naked.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Like, who won't? You know? So she's like, no, it's no big deal. Whatever. And then some people started texting her, like, oh, my God, I love the. Your shoes. Like, huh? And the photographer had posted it as two of the videos as reels without even showing Heidi. And so these are reposts of. And I was just. So it's back to, like, you know, when you, like, who owns it or. Yeah, yeah. Getting the views. If you're gonna even get naked and get clout, like, make sure you get all the views.

[A]

Right.

[B]

She's like, sure. He was with you. I'm like, well, you. If you're not clear, it's. If I'm her, I'm posting them too.

[A]

I. I love it. Tell everybody where. How they can use their Juicy discount.

[B]

Go confirm. Just. It's just juicy.

[A]

I think it's just Juicy.

[B]

I think I calm. And to be honest, I didn't know it was still there because we rarely ever do, like, 20% off is, like, usually, like Fourth of July.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

So you're currently, like, a reoccurring for level sale.

[A]

It's awesome. So I love it.

[B]

And just make sure you, you know, follow my tik toks. Your Tik toks. You're getting way more active. I'm very impressed.

[A]

Well, Annie is doing a great job and we're. It's grow.

[B]

I mean, it's growing.

[A]

I love it. All right.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

Bye. I love you, too.

[B]

Come back, See you. Hopefully I'll be on the boat next time.

[A]

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