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Jump Podcast
Hosted by Jump Associates · EN
The Jump Podcast is the conversation for you, our tribe of future-focused business leaders.
Hosts Dev Patnaik and Michelle Loret de Mola explore the most pressing issues in business strategy, culture, and leadership, with insights that help even the most seasoned strategists reframe how to lead and how to plan for What's Next.
From interviews with thought leaders to Headlines from the Future, The Jump Podcast aims to widen your perspective to plan for change before the ground shifts beneath your feet.
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The Real Reason Why Companies Fail
Apr 900:50:48Tap to summarizeIn this episode, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik take on one of business’s oldest questions: Why do great companies actually fail? Is it really arrogance and complacency that bring companies down… or is that just a narrative we’ve been telling ourselves for centuries? From the chaos hitting SaaS companies in the wake of AI to classic examples like Kodak and AOL, Michelle and Dev unpack what’s really going on beneath the surface. They argue that failure isn’t about leaders getting “too big for their britches,” but about something far more human: our tendency to focus on the present, stick with what’s working, and struggle to let go of a winning formula, even when we know the world is changing. This episode is a sharp, practical look at what it takes to actually build the bridge from today to tomorrow, and why so many companies fall short trying. If your strategy feels like a warm bath, it might be time to get out of the tub anyway. #SAAS #strategy #AI #innovation #futurefocus Links Subscribe to receive Dev’s weekly future focused letters: https://www.jumpassociates.com/podcastandnewsletter/ Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jump-associates Start a conversation: inquiries@jumpassociates.com The Jump Podcast The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out how to avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better. Jump Associates Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s more admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.
Transcribe →Focused Challenges: A Conversation with Anousheh Ansari
Mar 501:01:10Tap to summarizeIn this episode of the Jump Podcast, Dev Patnaik sits down with Anousheh Ansari to explore the power of bold challenges and “moonshot” thinking. Anousheh shares the story behind the early days of the XPRIZE Foundation, from the audacious $10M prize that helped kickstart private spaceflight to the dozens of competitions now tackling everything from wildfire detection to clean water and human health. The conversation dives into how well-designed incentives can unlock creativity, attract massive investment, and reshape entire industries. But it also confronts a harder question: if technology can create a world of abundance, why doesn’t everyone benefit? Anousheh reflects on the future she hopes we build, and why leaders must actively shape that future rather than assume it will arrive on its own. And if she gets her way, the future may look a lot like Star Trek - a world of abundance where we don't worry about scarcity... though we're still waiting on the replicators. #Moonshots #Innovation #Leadership #XPRIZE #futurefocus Links Subscribe to receive Dev’s weekly future focused letters: https://www.jumpassociates.com/podcastandnewsletter/ Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jump-associates Start a conversation: inquiries@jumpassociates.com The Jump Podcast The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out how to avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better. Jump Associates Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s more admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.
Transcribe →Leadership: Taking the ICE Test
Feb 500:45:19Tap to summarizeIn this episode of the Jump Podcast, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik dig into what’s unfolding in Minneapolis and why it has become a real time stress test for leadership. As immigration enforcement spills into everyday life and disrupts business, they explore why this moment is not just political but deeply human. Drawing on neuroscience, empathy, and leadership examples, Michelle and Dev examine why some people feel outrage while others feel nothing and what that reveals about our sphere of concern. The conversation challenges leaders to ask a hard question: who do you consider your people and how big is that circle? And if your empathy still is not kicking in, it might be time to put down the potato chips. Links Subscribe to receive Dev’s weekly future focused letters: https://www.jumpassociates.com/podcastandnewsletter/ Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jump-associates Start a conversation: inquiries@jumpassociates.com The Jump Podcast The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out how to avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better. Jump Associates Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s more admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.
Transcribe →Go Big: Starting the Year With Focused Challenges
Jan 900:47:33Tap to summarizeIt’s a new year, unwritten and full of possibility. Before the noise and distractions rush in, take a moment to decide what direction you actually want your company to head. The most disruptive companies in history didn’t lead with 50-page strategy decks; they rallied people around big, focused challenges. Drawing on examples from President John F. Kennedy's race to the moon to companies such as Amazon and Netflix, hosts Dev Patnaik and Michelle Loret de Mola look at the big "moonshot" challenges that secured their place in history, for better or worse. And as they unpack them, they demonstrate the characteristics of a winning challenge. But first, you have to figure out where your moon is.
Transcribe →2025 Headlines from the Future
Dec 1800:43:38Tap to summarizeAI-induced layoffs. Chatbot psychosis. Climate disasters. Gene-editing breakthroughs. Self-driving cars. 2025 felt like a sci-fi movie trailer. In this year-end episode, Dev and Michelle take us beyond the moments and examine the momentum underneath it all—the shifts rewiring markets, geopolitics, and society. Because when robotaxis go from fiction to reality in a matter of months, it’s a signal the future is changing lanes quickly.
Transcribe →AI & Humanity's Extinction: A Conversation with Stuart Russell
Nov 2600:54:59Tap to summarizeA couple episodes back, we sat with an AI optimist. Now we’re heading to the other end of the spectrum. Stuart Russell—UC Berkeley professor, co-author of the field’s definitive AI textbook, and one of the world’s most respected experts—brings a far more concerning view of where AI may take us. He’s been outspoken about the risks ahead: AI systems that exceed human capability, an economy that can’t justify its own valuations, and a future in which nearly all human work could disappear - and robots could eat our ice cream. The Jump Podcast The Jump Podcast is the conversation for you, our tribe of future-focused leaders. Hosts Dev Patnaik and Michelle Loret de Mola explore the most pressing issues in business strategy, culture, and leadership, with insights that help even the most seasoned strategists reframe how to lead and how to plan for What's Next. From interviews with thought leaders to Headlines from the Future, The Jump Podcast aims to widen your perspective to plan for change before the ground shifts beneath your feet. Jump Associates Jump is the strategy firm for future-focused leaders. We help ambitious companies see what’s coming and adapt before they fall behind. For over 25 years, we’ve worked with teams at Google, Nike, Samsung, Target, and Virgin to solve their most pressing growth challenges. In a world mired in yesterday’s data, we look ahead—integrating strategy, culture, and leadership to help organizations grow through change.
Transcribe →The Wisdom Gap: How Modern Leadership Fails Without 4 Essential Capabilities
Nov 1300:54:59Tap to summarizeIn a world overflowing with information, wisdom is surprisingly hard to come by. We dig into the difference between wisdom and knowledge, why knowledge doesn't necessarily precede wisdom, and how leaders can cultivate it (doing, reflecting, coaching). We close from Headlines from the Future, including China’s underwater data center, the global spread of 3D‑printed guns, and Nike’s robotic ankle brace.
Transcribe →AI & The Next Renaissance: A Conversation with Zack Kass
Oct 3100:38:43Tap to summarizeWe sit down with Zack Kass, global AI advisor, former Head of Go-To-Market at OpenAI, and author of The Next Renaissance, for his take on where artificial intelligence is headed and how it will shape our future. Zack’s undeniably optimistic outlook anticipates a golden age where access to “unmetered intelligence” will unlock academic progress and drive economic gains that lift up societies. He draws a sharp distinction between knowledge and intelligence, arguing that while humanity has gathered immense amounts of information, our brains’ processing power is limited. According to Zack, AI changes that, by giving us the cognitive horsepower to make sense of it all and fueling a new wave of scientific and social discovery.
Transcribe →Lululemon: Scaling What Makes You Great
Oct 1600:33:28Tap to summarizeLast week, Lululemon’s founder and former CEO fired shots at the company with a full-page ad in The Wall Street Journal. And the numbers are on his side—the company's stock has plummeted more than 50% in the past year. In this episode, we unpack what the clash reveals about the challenge of scaling without losing your edge—and what future-focused strategists can learn about navigating category maturity, cultural relevance, and corporate nightmares.
Transcribe →The Great Lock In of 2025
Oct 300:45:25Tap to summarizeIn this episode of the Jump Podcast, Dev and Michelle unpack the “Great Lock-In of 2025”, a viral challenge born on TikTok that they reframe for strategy leaders. They challenge executives to treat Q4 as “Q0”, a time to run small experiments, close open loops, and reset leadership habits before the new year. This episode is a call to action for leaders ready to lock in and lead with intention. It’s about turning intention into momentum—and, for some, that shift in mindset may manifest as getting bangs.
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