Addressing Brianna Chickenfry & Josh Richards' Unhinged Tirade + Matt Rife e.l.f. Drama

Summary

Just Trish: Addressing Brianna Chickenfry & Josh Richards' Unhinged Tirade + Matt Rife e.l.f. Drama

Episode Date: August 18, 2025
Hosts: Trisha Paytas, Oscar Gracey
Notable Guests/Co-Hosts: Moses Hacmon, Brooke

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Main Theme & Purpose

This episode of Just Trish takes on a lively (and often hilarious) deep-dive into the latest peaks of viral internet and celebrity drama, with particular focus on:

• The fallout from Brianna Chickenfry and Josh Richards’ pointed (and homophobic) comments about Oscar Gracey on their podcast, BFFs.
• The Matt Rife x e.l.f. Cosmetics campaign controversy.
• Gossip and banter on current pop culture news, including Taylor Swift's album rollout, pop star concert “flops,” TikTokers’ drama, and even the wild happenings at SeaWorld concerts. As always, Trisha and Oscar deliver unapologetically unfiltered perspectives while keeping the conversation sharp, poppy, and full of inside jokes for their loyal fanbase.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Wigs, Cosplay, and Taylor Swift Pop-Culture Rituals

[00:00–16:26]

• The episode opens lighthearted, with the crew play-acting in cosplay, referencing the movie “Weapons,” and joking about TikTok cosplays and pop culture Easter eggs.
• Tangents about Stranger Things, Travis Kelce cosplays, and Taylor Swift’s penchant for hidden “Easter eggs” in her album rollouts.
• The group unpacks “Swifty Zoomies” and elaborate on pop conspiracies about Taylor’s newest album ("Life of a Showgirl") and color schemes, poking fun at fans’ overzealous theories.
  • Trisha Paytas [09:38]: “I have the Swifty Zoomies. I'm swifty pilled right now, actually doing zoomies... I love the conspiracy theories. Some of them are wild.”

2. Taylor Swift Album Announcement & Power Couple Branding

[16:26–24:29]

• Talk about Taylor Swift announcing her new album on boyfriend Travis Kelce’s podcast “New Heights.” Some view this as a branding masterstroke, others as off-brand (“not very chic”) for a pop queen—a debate that Trisha defends as “double the audience, double the views.”
• Trisha [17:30]: “That’s the place where she can go and talk and she knows there's not going to be gotcha questions or clickbait... It’s very safe for her.”
• The group discourses how Swift and Kelce are synergizing brands (“power couple!”) and riff on Travis’s new, “camp” GQ cover styled by La Roach.
  • Moses Hacmon [18:03]: “It was so camp to me. I don't know. Was he gender-bending a man or a woman?... Some have claimed it’s the worst magazine cover ever.”

3. Hot Topics: Matt Rife & e.l.f. Cosmetics Backlash

[58:36–68:17] | [Timestamps 58:36–67:17]

• Trisha introduces the “hot topic” of the Matt Rife x e.l.f. Cosmetics campaign, which triggered mass controversy since Rife has a record of misogynistic and ableist comments.
  • Trisha [59:06]: “Elf’s new ad campaign features Matt Rife—but also Heidi N Closet, a drag queen... obviously it’s receiving backlash because of Matt’s controversial remarks about domestic violence and his constant jokes about women.”
• Oscar and Trisha call out not only Rife, but e.l.f. for platforming a comic who “openly doesn’t want women” as his audience and has never apologized for prior ableist stunts.
  • Oscar [60:07]: “If he's trying to rebrand, you need to apologize. Again, OK, the women are my audience, I need to sell tickets—apologize.”
  • Both express support for supporting Heidi’s bag, but “it’s wild for Elf to even look at Matt for marketing to women.”
• Analysis of rage-bait marketing tactics and critiques of the brand’s vetting process for partnerships.
  • Trisha [63:46]: “When someone is booked for a campaign, it's vetted. One Google search would have come up—Matt Rife domestic... it would have been there!”
• Ultimately, Trisha vows not to repurchase e.l.f. products, critiquing “doubling down” brands: “I love a brow gel, but I’m putting my foot down.” [67:18]

4. Briefs & Banter: Internet and Pop Culture Rabbit Holes

[29:02–54:00, 70:04–86:50]

• Tones shift between high-camp and straight pop nerding-out:
  • Anna Delvey’s botched bunny photoshoot (and animal abandonment drama)—bunnies were rescued, but Delvey called out rescuer “clout” in a classic bit of projection.
    • Trisha [72:49]: “Anna released a statement... she’s vegetarian, she would never hurt animals. [But] Christian, the hair team guy, apparently adopted the rabbits from FB Marketplace and dumped them... which is crazy.”
  • SeaWorld’s “lawless” concert series: stories of guests getting arrested for out-of-control twerking during Trina’s set, debates on drinking at theme parks, and general disbelief at what passes as live entertainment (“what is she getting arrested for at SeaWorld???”).
  • Pop star tour “flops” and the drama of venues—Katy Perry, Kesha, The Basement Yard’s podcast selling out Madison Square Garden, and the media’s glee in promoting negative narratives.
    • Trisha [55:31]: “I think people think Katy Perry is more of a flop than she is... She still has hits—don't underestimate the pop girls!"

5. TikTok Trends, Influencer Engagements, and Niche Internet Culture

[85:56–88:08]

• TikTok algorithm chat: trending sounds ("drinking a beer and flicking my bean"), AI-generated memes, the Sterniolo triplets’ rise, niche TikTokers getting engaged (slushy noobs), and the power of quirky, relatable internet personalities.
  • Oscar [88:08]: “I think that’s the best time of life is an engagement... honestly, if one wants to get married and one doesn’t, I’m like, just get engaged. Then you don’t have to get married, just stay engaged forever!”
• Shout-outs to pop culture moments and engagement announcements that have gone viral online.

6. [FEATURED SEGMENT] Addressing Brianna Chickenfry & Josh Richards' Unhinged Tirade

[145:46–165:18]

• Context: Oscar’s small-channel live stream included a brief (and unserious) critique of BFFs' Adam Sandler interview—which Brianna and Josh saw, and launched into a heated tirade about, including implying Oscar was only critical due to having a crush on Josh.
• Trisha & Oscar’s Reaction:
  • On the BFFs' response: Oscar and Trisha highlight the dangerously casual homophobia (the “maybe he has a crush on Josh” microaggression) and note how careless jokes like that perpetuate real-world queerness-phobia and violence—especially in times of rising anti-LGBTQ+ rhetoric.
    • Oscar [150:48]: “During this tirade against me, Brianna suggested I was shady towards Josh because I have a crush on him... it's a blatant microaggression. This is literally the rhetoric that leads to violence against queer people.”
    • Trisha [151:56]: “That rhetoric—to kids in high school especially—leads to so much queer violence. And at a time when the Supreme Court is about to rule on same-sex marriage.”
  • On the podcast’s entitlement: Trisha reads both for lacking the charisma for interviews of this caliber, noting their interview with Adam Sandler “struggled to hit 30k views,” suggesting influence ≠ skill or impact.
    • Trisha [155:28]: “Those are just the indisputable facts. You got millions of followers on Instagram, but if people aren’t clicking on the video, people wanna look at you, but they don’t wanna hear from you.”
  • On Oscar’s credentials: Oscar visibly pushes back at the “jealous” accusation, noting he’s an Emmy-winning interviewer and not an influencer, and that the live critique was funny, unserious, and in context of prepping for Just Trish.
    • Oscar [157:59]: “I've been producing and hosting interviews for over a decade. I have a job. This is my side fun. So do an iota of research before going off on me.”
  • Resolution: Both vow to disengage with the drama going forward, expressing gratitude for the fan support, and reiterating the importance of calling out microaggressions in otherwise “silly” online wars.
    • Trisha [159:49]: “So that really is the tea. And—guess what—you got your wish: This is literally the last time I will ever, ever, ever say your names or show’s name. Only when people beg me to drag you. Does that not embarrass you the tiniest bit that so many people root against you?”
    • Oscar [164:31]: “In the off-chance she didn’t realize it was homophobic: Now you do. Hopefully it doesn’t happen again.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Taylor Swift Conspiracies
  Trisha [09:38]: "I have the Swifty Zoomies. I'm swifty pilled right now, actually doing zoomies... I love the conspiracy theories. Some of them are wild."
• On the Matt Rife e.l.f. Fiasco
  Trisha [61:13]: "He did the hey girl wink. I'm like, you're not Ryan Gosling. Yes, it was very icky."
  Oscar [62:06]: “This is like Logan Paul being the face of a suicide prevention hotline.”
• On Homophobia from BFFs
  Oscar [150:48]: "Brianna made a casually homophobic remark… That's a blatant microaggression.”
• On Defending Your Resume
  Oscar [157:04]: “And won an Emmy for producing celebrity interviews, period. Been there, done that. So don't compete where you don’t compare."
• On Owning Your Pop Flop
  Trisha [155:28]: "If people aren’t clicking on the video, people want to look at you, but they don’t want to hear from you. That’s just the tea."
• On Pop Star Double Standards
  Oscar [55:56]: "You know, people just love to see a failure. But I love when people can like flip it. They'll be like, look at this flop of a tour. But then people be like, no, look at all these people. Like, people just trying to show like the worst part."

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | |:-------------:|:----------------------------------------------------------| | 00:34–08:10 | Cosplay banter; Taylor Swift album conspiracies | | 16:26–24:29 | Taylor and Travis Kelce: Album announcement / GQ cover | | 58:36–68:17 | Matt Rife x e.l.f. Cosmetics drama & critique | | 70:04–86:50 | SeaWorld drama, TikTok trends, influencer engagements | | 145:46–165:18 | Klaxon: BFFs Brianna & Josh react to Oscar; Just Trish Responds |

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Closing Tone & Takeaways

Just Trish remains as sharp, gossipy, and pointedly unapologetic as always—using humor as a shield and sword but also taking space to call out real-world issues like casual homophobia and corporate accountability in influencer culture. Whether deconstructing internet micro-dramas or waxing philosophical about Taylor Swift’s color palette, Trisha and Oscar’s chemistry keeps the weekly tea both hot and deeply watchable.

Summary: This episode is a must-listen for pop culture obsessives craving both irreverent banter and hard-hitting commentary about the ethics of internet fame, influencer drama, and why it’s always more interesting to choose the side of transparency and accountability.

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For Your Notes/Further Reference

• Trisha and Oscar confirm a break from engaging with BFFs after this (unless “begged” to drag).
• Both hosts emphasize their backgrounds in real media/celebrity coverage—not “just” influencers.
• Continuous throughline: accountability, pop culture joy, and the importance of knowing your lane (“don’t compete where you don’t compare”).
• For fans: check Patreon for bonus content and more behind-the-scenes tea!

Transcript

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, there's very few people I hate, but I also don't think about them that often.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, speaking of hate, Matt Rife.

[Moses Hacmon]

Can I tell you, don't even put it on me because I sometimes I've done spell work that are so powerful I feel like I could get arrested. Can they still arrest witches?

[Trisha Paytas]

I fake a smile so he won't see.

[Moses Hacmon]

That makes me cr. Her name is. Hello and welcome. Today's episode of Just Trish. Should we starting Halloween early? Just call me Ms. Gladys from weapons Rahr. I have never seen the movie, but I imagine she's like fierce, right? Everyone's calling her fierce. She's like, yes, kids, come to me.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's very quirky and spooky.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, more like ominous. Like ominous.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, and very quirky.

[Moses Hacmon]

She talks like an old lady. Oh, kids, come to me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, well, yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

Your parents aren't enough. I'm dying. Look at this little blonde lady. They. Them. I don't know pronouns.

[Trisha Paytas]

You have to cut a lock of my hair.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, need it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, there you go.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, for me? For me. Oh, thank you, little girl. Oh. Oh, I feel the youth coming back. I'm alive. But we need the children. Mark the clock. 2:17. Catch him. Clock. It was that right? What's your character? You want to do a little improv? No, put a little character.

[Brooke]

I don't even know who I am.

[Moses Hacmon]

Get the children.

[Brooke]

Just know he has a mustache.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, you don't know. You don't know any direction. You did get a little direction. Mo's like, are we doing cosplay today? I'm like, I don't know if you really kind of. This is all I got from it.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's the police officer.

[Brooke]

Oh, you aren't the arrest? No, I solved the crime.

[Moses Hacmon]

Not me. That's it. What do we crush it? Yeah. Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

You'll be in the sequel or prequel?

[Moses Hacmon]

Prequel. Oh, they're doing a prequel for her.

[Trisha Paytas]

They're doing a Gladys prequel for weapons.

[Moses Hacmon]

You might need someone younger. Yeah, I'll be like, I still have the Cut. Let me guess how she cut her hand. She was cutting your hair. She's like, give me those hairs.

[Trisha Paytas]

Spoiler alert.

[Moses Hacmon]

Poor Jimmy. Everyone was very sad for Jimmy for the spoiler alert. So spoilers are coming. Ooh, spoilers are coming. Spoiler. Get out now. Spoiler alert. Three, two, one. Spoiler warning.

[Trisha Paytas]

She does her spells. To do her spell, she has to slice her hand and use her blood in water. Oh.

[Moses Hacmon]

So this is an integral part of the cosplay. Okay. I'm glad. I glad I got the bandage.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's a very important part.

[Moses Hacmon]

And what does she tell people when she asks about the bandage? Oh, how about your hand? She's like, oh. Or they don't ask.

[Trisha Paytas]

No one's ever asked, but oh, okay.

[Moses Hacmon]

Love that. And who's your character? You never fully explained?

[Trisha Paytas]

Julia Garner. She's the teacher.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, she looks like a child in the movie. I mean, not a bad way. Fierce being young.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. She is really teeny. She wears a lot of horizontal stripes, which was triggering for me. But I'm like, you know what? To be in the character. I want to do it.

[Moses Hacmon]

You were giving Ben Platt, dear Evan Hansen, the movie, and I love it. Can you give us a little Diet Pepsi?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah, his cover. Okay. When you drive in your car, I'm your baby Losing all my innocence in the backseat.

[Moses Hacmon]

Wow. And you did the Ben Platt version. Good job. I thought you were gonna do like, a little Addison, like pop girly. That was great.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I saw the Ben Platt Diet Pepsi gagged me.

[Moses Hacmon]

You look great. Yeah. You're giving dear Evan hands and I love it. You are giving. You also look like another, like Stranger Things or something. Is there like a cop in Stranger Things? Like that?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, there is. Yes. David Harbour and Stranger Things.

[Moses Hacmon]

The dad from Twilight. Like, you could be like anybody.

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel anyone with a mustache.

[Brooke]

Again, immediately back to the 80s.

[Moses Hacmon]

I love that you went and shaved for this cosplay. That was everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

That's the only thing I can do. That's my cosplay.

[Moses Hacmon]

I love it.

[Brooke]

My facial hair is always my cosplay.

[Moses Hacmon]

I know we did the Travis Kelsey tick tock this morning and he had a beard. And I was like, oh, the day you shave your beard. But we still. We still kind of ate it. Honestly. So sorry to everyone's like, why aren't you dressed as Taylor? And I was like, the Taylor one came out Monday. We had this plan planned for Wednesday, so Amazon does not deliver that quickly. This was already it. So we did Travis and Gladys. I guess what was Our lines. That's a nice color on you.

[Brooke]

Oh, yeah. That's the color of your eyes, baby. Sweetie.

[Moses Hacmon]

Mm.

[Trisha Paytas]

Good job.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's why we go so well.

[Brooke]

That's why we're such a good match.

[Moses Hacmon]

We're gonna do a podcast.

[Brooke]

We are.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was really fun.

[Moses Hacmon]

I thought it was perfect because we are doing a podcast. We love happy ts12.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Good job.

[Moses Hacmon]

I'm very excited. We got. These are cakes.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's everything.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. So we got. I think I got three vanilla for you to take, and then I got one chocolate. Because you like chocolate.

[Trisha Paytas]

I thought you went and got these done.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Moses Hacmon]

I don't know why. When we were texting yesterday, not that it's, like, even that big of a deal, but I was, like, feeling sad all around, and I felt sad for you, and I was like, you know what? Let me get some cakes. I know it's, like, not a big deal, but, like, also, I was just like. I even ordered you something online. It hasn't come in yet, but I'm, like, so sweet. Cheer them up. Even though you think you probably were fine. We were just texting. In my mind. We're, like, crying together because I've been very emotional lately, and I was like, oh, my God. We're crying together over this because I was, like, in the hair salon, I was, like, crying, and then I was like, let me make some cakes. Now. I didn't make these say what they.

[Brooke]

What they say because maybe it's too small for the camera.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay, so we have See youe Next Era, Love. Then we have the Life of a Showgirl, which is Taylor's new album. Yes, Love. I need some more clarification on this. I love it, but I don't know the lore other than she hinted at it in, like, Reputation or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

There is a lot lore. There's a lot of lore.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

A lot of speculation. I think it's a lot of. A lot of people are reaching for sure. But I love it. I love it. Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, the conspiracies are reaching.

[Trisha Paytas]

The conspiracies are all over the place. But I love it. I live for it. Gives us all something to do.

[Moses Hacmon]

Talk about. I love when. That's why I got into it all of a sudden. I'm, like, excited. I mean, everyone's excited. It's giving Labu boo. It's giving. Everyone get excited for this.

[Brooke]

How did it not pick up? I've been given the Mr. Eggs for so long, having this orange poster behind me.

[Moses Hacmon]

What? Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, you were in on it. Oh, you.

[Moses Hacmon]

You've been.

[Trisha Paytas]

He knew. He knew the next color was going to be orange.

[Brooke]

I mean, part of the choice.

[Trisha Paytas]

Orange and green. You clocked it.

[Moses Hacmon]

I'm telling you, we were ahead of our time. Love it.

[Brooke]

Look. Because I saw a video of how people are analyzing each thing she'd done in the last few weeks.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Brooke]

This is a little book when it's orange and it has that thing and there's like, there obviously there'll be some colors in every shot. Like, we saw a little orange over here. So anyway, I've been. For a long time.

[Moses Hacmon]

They've been looking for Easter eggs from back in the eras tour. Like, oh, she wore orange on stage. I was like, wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

At some point, I've worn orange too.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know what I mean?

[Moses Hacmon]

Like, that is. That is wild. I love the name. It's not out yet, right? The podcast is not out.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, it comes out Thursday at 4pm Pacific.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay, so we're not. So at least it's not today. I was thinking, like, if it's today, I like. Do we, like, reconvene and talk about it?

[Trisha Paytas]

I know, but yeah, it comes. It's going to, I think about an hour long, but Thursday at 4pm so who knows what will come out of it?

[Moses Hacmon]

Are you excited? Will you, like, make a meal around this? Like, you're like, okay, let's sit and watch this.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, wait, no, sorry. Wednesday at 4pm I don't know why I said Thursday. Yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. I don't know. I had a brain aneurysm. But yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. Wait, now I'm giddy. I just processed that.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, no. But then ours won't be current. I feel like our hot Topics will be like, oh, they've already talked about all this. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

I know there'll be an album cover and we still have the little lock on, but that's okay.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, the lock is to unlock the album cover. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

I like it. I thought that was the album cover. Does she usually have her face on the album cover? Is she usually on it?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Love it. Yeah. I don't like when bands like My Chemical Romance. I mean, I love it. I get it's like an aesthetic, but, like, I don't like when it's not them on the COVID You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, like a photo of, like, an artistic photo.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, like our. Everyone does Newfound Glory. Sad Boy. Like, they all do it where they just have a little cartoon on there. Nirvana. You know what I Mean, like, they all. But I guess it's like a band thing to do is on. Put your picture on there, maybe.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

I love when there's a picture on there, though. And then we have our ts for Taylor Swift.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yes. Well, yeah. Is that anything more to that one?

[Trisha Paytas]

That's just her name. Yeah. Okay.

[Moses Hacmon]

I do love the teal and orange. It is giving Miami Dolphins love that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Your mind went there.

[Moses Hacmon]

So it's like, mine is like, this Travis getting traded. She's preparing for the new color scheme.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is so funny.

[Moses Hacmon]

Her and Alex Earl just be football wives together down there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Please don't put that.

[Moses Hacmon]

Wait, what?

[Trisha Paytas]

That's the last thing I need. I don't know.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, I think I love that. Okay. All right. I don't know. I don't know. What? Okay. I was getting that tease from that. But I love it. I love it. There's no other color scheme like this. Remember last time? I'm talking about how Freaky Friday and Beetle just have, like, similar color schemes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. A mint and Mint and orange.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, it's mint.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

Are you excited?

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm very excited. Yeah. I have the Swifty Zoomies. I'm swifty pilled right now, actually doing zoomies. My brain just, like, I keep refreshing Twitter, waiting to see, like, what's someone gonna say next? Like, I love it. I love the conspiracy theories. Some of them are wild. Like, there was one that was like, well, on August 12, 2024, she wore a white sweater that had orange and green stripes. And I'm like, okay, well, it's also autumn, so. Yeah. And there's the whole theory that it, like, the Statue of Liberty was originally copper, and then because of the coating on it, ends up becoming a mint. So it's like. It's like the showgirls have been underappreciated as they age and the colors change and all the crazy antics and shenanigans and theories we came up with.

[Moses Hacmon]

So she has a sense of humor.

[Trisha Paytas]

She loves it.

[Moses Hacmon]

She's a new Swiftie. So I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it because you were. I love the narrative that you did, actually, because you were, quote, tweeting, like, shady tweet, like, people trying to shade Taylor. And I was. But you switched the narrative. You said, this is amazing. Like, she is all of us.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, were we doing shady People use.

[Trisha Paytas]

Those videos of her dancing and stuff to be like, oh, my God, she's. How is she a pop star? How is she a performer? But you switched the narrative. You Were like, this actually eats. And so I love that.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, I loved it. I cosplayed, like, the one of her in the rainbow shorts. I love. That was one of my favorite outfits and performances. I love her little dance moves. Like, me too. I literally did a whole eras of Trish tour inspired by it, including. Because I look at her and it's like. Like, maybe people thought I was being shady, but I really wasn't. Where it's like, I feel like that's all of us, if we were a pop star, like, just getting on stage and just having fun.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. I think she's a very. I think the charm is that she's very relatable. Her songs are relatable.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And that's the kind of pop star she's always been. She's not going to be a cat's eye, you know, doing, like, cartwheels and backflips.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. That's what I get with her, too. Because even though, like, obviously she's, like, the most talented songwriter in the world, and I'm gonna write songs like her, and obviously she has a really, really great voice, but she doesn't do, like, Whitney Houston or belting songs because, like, you want to sing along. Like, shake it up, Shake it up. Right. Like, obviously she can, like, sing her heart out, but it's like, that's what everyone can sing along to.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

You know what I mean? Like, we've heard Britney Spears, too. She sings, like, amazing, but she does the cute pop songs because, like, that's what people want to sing to, you know? I love Mariah Care, but can't sing their songs. I'm not going to try to sing.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, there's a lot of really insane vocalists that can do crazy things, but they're. That is a great vocalist doesn't automatically make a successful pop star for a reason. Because it takes more than just, you know, amazing vocals.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, she gets the hook. She gets out. I think it's, like, the perfect pop star, to be honest. I really do think that. I didn't know they were gonna be shady.

[Brooke]

You're not a new Swiftie. You've been for the last two years, 200 episodes. A whole tour.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

Right, Right. That is, period. I did do a whole tour. And her outfit, her bodysuit, which I would have worn on tour had I not been pregnant. That's right, I did. And we did start the episode. My Twitter profile picture has been. Yeah, you're right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

I guess I just didn't really know. And I'm like, I'm still getting into like the songs of it all. I need to like get like more deep cuts but. But Tana is also a Swiftie so I think she can be two of you. I think if you guys give me. I want to get into like I said, the songs that people don't know, you know, because I know all the songs people know and I love them but.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh yeah, you want like the B cuts and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

So maybe I need to get into that. But I am seated. I love the Life of a Showgirl title. I just love. I have no idea. Me too. What do you think it is related to for her?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think she likes the aesthetic. Like she's dabbled in it a lot throughout her career and I think think it's probably a lot from like the era store where she really did have to like go on stage and be like a showgirl, you know. And it's probably going to be a lot of Travis in there too. I would think she got a lot of the sad stuff out. So I think it's going to be love, love. I think it's going to be pop because she's working with Max Martin and Shell Back who did like 1989, like her very poppy stuff.

[Moses Hacmon]

Love that.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I'm excited. I think she know she's done like the chill singer songwriter stuff a lot and I think she's going back to give us pop anthems. And I'm seated. I'm here for it. I'm so excited. I was like it came out of nowhere because everyone was speculating for a long time that something was coming. Then it was quiet and then all of a sudden the Travis the New Heights podcast tease happened and then Taylor's website updated and I was like the only person I can think of was Cutie Cinderella because she's tape hilled like me and I was like Kitty. And then she was live streaming too, but I didn't care. I was like Kitty. Like what do you think of this? What do you think of this?

[Moses Hacmon]

Can she see while she's streaming text messages or not?

[Trisha Paytas]

She repl there but she really was like live to 8,000 people.

[Moses Hacmon]

So 80,000.

[Trisha Paytas]

8,000 people.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, that's a lot.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's a lot of people. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay. Love that she's a swifty. I love that you texted her like that. That's everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's the only swifty I could think of at the time. I was like. Cuz she goes deep as well. Like she goes yeah, very in the weeds.

[Moses Hacmon]

Like who Do I talk about this with.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

I was surprised on Monday you weren't more hyped or was it not out about it?

[Trisha Paytas]

It wasn't. It was just the speculation. It was like all we had was a silhouette of the Travis Kelce and Jason Kelce podcast that everyone assumed was Taylor, but then. And it ended up confirming it was her. And then her website changed and then. Yeah, we had more information.

[Brooke]

I mean, I told you she's going to announce something. It was. I was ready for a new album.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, you were on it.

[Brooke]

What did you say?

[Moses Hacmon]

What did you predict?

[Brooke]

Because I told him, like, isn't she announcing something? Because knowing that she's going to announce a new album. But I was trying to give Oscar the.

[Moses Hacmon]

You knew. Are you just being.

[Brooke]

Yeah, that's. Why would I say she's announcing something?

[Moses Hacmon]

Rewind the tapes. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Marriage, family.

[Moses Hacmon]

Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Stuff like that. Scooter brawn, stuff like that.

[Brooke]

You think she'll announce anything? You think she'll announce anything?

[Moses Hacmon]

I love that for you. Seriously, I do.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, well, yes. And we're all show girls at the end of the day, so you really are a show girl.

[Moses Hacmon]

So I did. I did jump on the trend, too. I was also like, look at me as. Also a showgirl. I loved all the memes of all the different showgirls that were coming. Coming out. I haven't seen. It's on my list, literally this week to watch the last Show Girl. I haven't seen it. Have you watched it?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, people. Darian just watched it last night.

[Moses Hacmon]

I think I saw that on his story today because I was like, wait, I saw it recently. He didn't love it. Everyone's been telling me. And I was like, I don't know why I haven't watched it. It's with Pam. So that's on our.

[Brooke]

You remind me of her in this wig when she was doing her character from her book. She has that wig and the red lipstick.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, and the Naked Gun movie. Thanks. Yeah, that is kind of it. Someone also said I looked like the lady from Edward Scissorhand who makes the ambrosia salad and seduces Edward Scissorhands. And I was like, oh, I kind of see that too, so I'll take it all. I wasn't trying to be too cray cray looking, but I know I was supposed to do lipstick on the teeth. I was like, let me not be because I am older. I don't want to look like I'm losing it. You know what I mean? Like, don't be too accurate. Too spot on. But yes, this is cutting off my circulation, so I will remove it right now. My hand was like, literally. Okay, work.

[Trisha Paytas]

Two method.

[Moses Hacmon]

Two method. I was wrapping it so tight because I couldn't find scissors. So I just kept wrapping and wrapping and I was like, ow. Okay. Anyways, we're here. But that's I think the hottest topic, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. So I'm excited. What do you. People were giving her a hard time for announcing the album on her boyfriend's podcast though, which I thought was interesting.

[Moses Hacmon]

Wait, why?

[Trisha Paytas]

There was a lot of discourse about that.

[Moses Hacmon]

What was the hard time? What? I always think I'm gonna be on the one side of things and then people always like. Because to me, I'm like, oh, that's great for. He's probably like, yes. Like, I would love if someone announced something here. You know what I mean? Are they mad? Because, like, it's.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why a lot of. Not a lot. I would say, like, the majority of people were like, yeah, excited. This makes sense. But there was some that was like, it's not very chic to go on your boyfriend's football podcast and announce your Showgirl album. Like, maybe something a little bit more girly or I guess.

[Moses Hacmon]

But oh, no, give your boyfriend the views. Like, who else could get, you know, like, where else would she go?

[Brooke]

It's like her going to the games. Like she's at the games.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

Promoting him.

[Moses Hacmon]

But even, but less even than that because that's like, okay, I get that like football fans. But people are going to watch Traders because of Taylor Swift because Travis Kelsey mom's on there. They're going to listen Travis Cousins Pocket. Not to say he's not famous on his own, but obviously the girlies and the gays are listening because of Taylor.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

So she's bringing a different audience. Double the audience, double the views, I'm sure. Like, obviously he doesn't care. They make money, whatever.

[Trisha Paytas]

But like, yeah, and I think too, it's like that's the place where she can go and talk and she knows there's not going to be like any gotcha questions or like any kind of clickbait questions or stuff. Like, it's very safe for her to go. And it is interesting. I feel like brand wise, they're kind of merging their brands and like branding themselves as a power couple that let's support each other because at the same time as Taylor, like announcing her album, Travis Kelsey's on the COVID of gq, which kind of gave me Trishan Vibes too, with the way that he was. I was like, I can see Trisha being styled.

[Moses Hacmon]

Wait, what? I just saw a close up of his face. What was he wearing?

[Trisha Paytas]

So camp to me. I don't know.

[Moses Hacmon]

Was he in like a dress? The pastels. What was he in pink?

[Trisha Paytas]

Like it was giving, like you're like, like Zac Efron, like gender bend era. Because it was so wild.

[Moses Hacmon]

Was he gender bending a man or a woman?

[Trisha Paytas]

It was a man, but it was like very camp. It almost gave me like. I didn't know if he was supposed to. Yeah, let me pull up the photo because I haven't seen.

[Moses Hacmon]

I thought I was like, on everything. I didn't see this.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was. Some people have claimed that it is the worst magazine cover ever. Wait, what?

[Moses Hacmon]

No, I saw like, it wasn't what the COVID has faced.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was his face. I love jacket.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, yeah. Oh, no, I loved it. I didn't even know it was him.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Moses Hacmon]

I thought it was giving, like, model, like male model, like Chris Evans. He's very handsome.

[Trisha Paytas]

He is. And then some people are saying he isn't handsome enough.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

He is very attractive, I think because he's like beefier and like hairy. But that's in you guys. Beefy and hairy is in.

[Moses Hacmon]

I know. Sometimes I am like, oh, he's hairy but not him. But yeah, I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

You shouldn't be that way. I hate this for him.

[Moses Hacmon]

Why are people so. It is so funny how, like, girls hate being body shape, but they're like, oh, he has hair. But then meanwhile, someone tells you to shave and you're like, ah, f you. Well, double standards. But he's attractive.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's very attractive. His brother too.

[Moses Hacmon]

His brother's even more girlier.

[Trisha Paytas]

But Jason wore a Speedo a couple of months ago. It was like, all over gay Twitter. Gays love it. I guess it's just girls that are a little skeptical about it.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, we're still not into the hair train. I wish I was on Traders this season with what's the mom?

[Trisha Paytas]

Donna.

[Moses Hacmon]

Donna. Kelsey.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, here's this photo of him in the ocean in a construction vest.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, I love. Wait, is that his hair?

[Trisha Paytas]

That's his chest area.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, T shirt. Because it looks like there's like a thing. Is he wearing a chain?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, he is wearing a chain.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay, that's so crazy. It literally looks like a hairy, like, T shirt. Like, okay, I love why. I love because, like, why is he wearing a construction vest? Jojo Siwa Nachos in the ocean. Like, it is so weird. But I love it.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then here he is in the Everglades in overalls.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, you're right, it's camp. It's like look how mass macho I am. And I'm holding an alligator.

[Trisha Paytas]

Him in a fur outfit.

[Moses Hacmon]

He looks great. Who hates it? Who hates it?

[Trisha Paytas]

A lot of people are saying it's crazy, but I think it's camp. I think it's purposely camp. And then his like lip in the magazine cover with like the fur hood.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, he looks like chanting. That's what he looks like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, you're right, it is.

[Moses Hacmon]

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[Trisha Paytas]

But it gives me, like, it almost gives me like, Zoolander or something.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. You know, because, like, if he was, like, seriously trying to model and like, wearing the Armani suits or something like that, maybe it may be like, cheesy or something he's not comfortable with. But probably he's like, if I do, it's like, silly, but still a hot. Like, he still looks hot doing it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I think he's very attractive. And he was styled by Law Roach for this photo shoot, too, which is fiercer.

[Moses Hacmon]

So no one knows what they're talking about. If La Roach style and, like, he gets it. He knows. He knows what he was doing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, he's wearing, like, expensive brands. He has Dolce and Gabbana. He's wearing. He has a Birkin bag in one photo, too. So love, love.

[Moses Hacmon]

I love it. I'm here for it. I Didn't even see all those photos. And I'm obsessed. I love it.

[Trisha Paytas]

After they got this cover of gq.

[Moses Hacmon]

It looks great. You should do a reenactment of it. You were like, do you ever wear a beard? No. You never have a beard, huh?

[Trisha Paytas]

Not really, no.

[Moses Hacmon]

I hate beards.

[Trisha Paytas]

My face gets itchy when it goes out, too.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's what I always say. Like, he's so sensitive about, like, smells and, like, collars and stuff like that. I was like, how does it not bother you that you have, like, hair? Like, same. I. I hate shaving my legs, but I do shave them every day because I hate hair on them. Like, it just itchy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. My skin gets, like, really red and itchy when it grows out too long.

[Moses Hacmon]

I was a. The same thing. Yeah. Don't. I don't like it. Beards are for ugly people. Except Travis Kelsey and Moses. I was going to say. Yeah, that's it. Everyone else. I hate beards. I used. There was a period in music videos of, like, all the dancers had beards. And I like, was like, you have to shave if you want to do this job. Some of them would. Some of them wouldn't, but it was awful.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is so funny. I don't know. Have I ever been. I don't know if I've ever dated someone with the beard. Maybe once. Maybe once, actually. I think some people definitely can work it.

[Moses Hacmon]

I think anyone can work it, But I think it's for people with bad faces. Like, not cute faces. You know what I mean? Yeah, but work. Do what you want with your body. Actually, I don't care. But, you know, no beard. I love it. I love Travis Kelsey acting. He was in Happy Gilmore too. He was very good. He was like. He was like the serious, mean waiter. And then bad bunny was like the silly, goofy waiter that became, like, the Caddy. But he was so good in it. I was like, I believed him as a cater, as a staff. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Is that a waiter?

[Trisha Paytas]

And you were almost on a show with him.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, I guess we can say it now. Who cares? I haven't heard anything from them in two years. You guys, I was so close to being on are you smarter than a fifth grader? Was it called celebrity Edition, or am I just, like, making that up?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think it was. I think just, are you smarter than a fifth grader? But it was all, like, celebrities.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, it was like the reboot. I guess it was a reboot because the original host wasn't hosting. It was Travis Kelsey hosting It. And I was on hold. This was I. I was not. I was nine months pregnant with Elvis. So I have a feeling for continuity.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because it aired like a year later.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Which I was pregnant a year later, so. But I remember being in the pilot for it where you have to, like, pitch it to the people who bought it.

[Brooke]

And you helped sell the show. You helped.

[Moses Hacmon]

I mean, really. I did. I crushed it, too. I'm always so good in that room with the executives. I don't know who bought it. Was Amazon, I think Amazon, Yeah. MGM was the one who sold it. I've been working with, like, mgm, not working with. That sounds crazy. They've been calling me in to be the game show contestant to pitch to people. And, like, they've sold a lot of shows with me pitching. But then I guess I can't probably that one. I could have been a contestant, like on. Because they didn't win money. This, like celebrities or whatever. Not really celebrity, but I think I can't be a real contestant because I know them.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

So they probably think, like, you can't be on it. But this one would have been perfect because I didn't win any money. I could have probably been on it, but yeah. And I could have been with your ass. Kelsey on a show and probably Taylor Swift was there. She was there, like, just hanging out, just being supportive. And it wasn't a big swifty back then, so I wouldn't played it cool. And we could have been friends. We were born a year apart. 88, 89. You know, like, that would have been. That would have been cool. But next time I. When I was in New York, remember, I went to after the Radio City show. It was like, it was 11 o' clock at night, and my agents were like, we have to go to this place. It's super trendy. And I, like, looked it up and I saw that Taylor Swift was there, like, the night before or something. Like walking in a paparazzi. It's like, perfect. We're gonna go see Taylo then. I was there. Nobody was there. It was like midnight when I got there. Nobody was there. I was like, okay, but I remember calling Moses. I don't know if I want to get a while. I don't know if I should, because I had the Boston show the next day, and I was like, but celebrities are there. And Hailey Bieber was also there. I was like, oh, maybe the night before, maybe not the night before, but, like, prior. It was like a spot that was like, a little bit out of the city. It took like 30 minutes to get there.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I was very your brand to go when no one else is there.

[Moses Hacmon]

But like literally not one soul, not even as famous person. There was like, we closed down the place. Nobody was there. I was like, the food was good. Love my agents. It was worth it. But also it was a truck. I don't know where it was. I couldn't even tell you. I'll figure it out.

[Brooke]

You were the celebrity. Like the next day somebody would say.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, only one celebrity per night can go there. Maybe you're right. That's true. Too much star power. It was good though. I felt very booze to go out with like the agents in New York. Like I did feel like I had. It was like one in the morning. I was like, I think you were already even sleeping here on west coast time when I was done. Because I was like, okay, I'm gonna call you. I don't know. I was braving it. I haven't been outside at night time since like, I don't know last time I've been outside nighttime. Like do you go out at night? I never leave the house at dark time is what I'm saying.

[Trisha Paytas]

The last time was just to see a movie I saw. I went to Weapons last week at 8pm which was pushing it. I know.

[Moses Hacmon]

Scary. And then when you leave a scary movie, are you scared to be in the parking lot?

[Trisha Paytas]

Not for this one because I wasn't. Weapons isn't like full blown horror, but I think if it was like a scream or something, probably that's why I.

[Moses Hacmon]

Don'T like to leave dark. I think just like you can't. When I really can't see in the dark. Cuz I have like bad eyesight. But it's like I don't like not seeing or knowing like isn't bad things happen, you know, like the creatures come out at night. Yeah, right. I suppose more so than the day. Although nowadays those smash and grabs, I guess those were happening during the day.

[Trisha Paytas]

Ooh, you kind of not smash and grab but can't see. It reminded me of the challenge I want to do is the.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh no.

[Trisha Paytas]

When the cooking challenge, when one person's blind, one person's deaf and one person is mute.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh my God. Wait, what? How, how do you do that?

[Trisha Paytas]

One person has a blindfold, One person has like noise canceling headphones. And then one person has tape over their mouth. And then you have to work together to cook a recipe.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, that would be good for us because I feel like we talk too much. Like that's actually so perfect. Moses just can't have the blindfold.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, yeah, he has to be able to see. I guess you can be like, have the noise canceling headphones because you don't.

[Moses Hacmon]

Really need our input at that party.

[Brooke]

I'll probably cook better if I don't need to hear you guys.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's actually. So just be cooking.

[Brooke]

You guys can talk.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. I mean, we should have put the blindfold on you because you have glasses and you can't see.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I'm like, me not laughing is. Will be like an extra challenge, so.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's true.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, so me with the.

[Moses Hacmon]

With the eyes, I love not seeing it. Well, I love to see. I have to be careful. Like, I made up such powerful things lately. I got to be careful. Anything I say, I'm always like, no, I love to see. But yeah, I'll wear a blindfold for God. Isn't that a movie too? Wasn't that a scary movie?

[Trisha Paytas]

Bird box. Yes, bird box.

[Moses Hacmon]

It was giving weapons gives that when you were talking about it. That's what I was like envision a little bit.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Cuz weren't they all just going out in the streets and like getting hit by guards?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, they were getting entranced and losing like autonomy of themselves. So scary.

[Moses Hacmon]

Is weapon still a thing? Do people still like it?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think so. It'll. We'll see how it does second week, but everyone's still talking about it. And now it got this. The sequel or prequel or whatever. So. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

And it's greenlit. The prequel.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's in pre development.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's about Gladys or someone else.

[Trisha Paytas]

Gladys? Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Like, I wonder what that could even be.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess we'll find out.

[Moses Hacmon]

People were comparing her to Ma. They were like, which one would you rather hang with?

[Trisha Paytas]

Who would you be more afraid of?

[Moses Hacmon]

Probably neither because I'm old like them. I'm one of them. Actually. I would love. I do love this day and age of like, older people. Like being in movies. It says about Naked Gun too. Like, I just love that like, old people are becoming the stars of movies. You know what I mean? Like, Gladys is the breakout star. Love a Naked Gun too. They were older, obviously attractive. But who's the other Ma? You know what I mean? Like, obviously Octavia Spencer's amazing, but like, it's cool that there's parts where old people gives me hope.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Because like, screaming is like one of the younger people are usually the murderer.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Everyone's so young.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like Mikey Madison was Scream. Which one not? This is like a. From Four or five years ago. So that's a spoiler.

[Moses Hacmon]

The one with Jenna Ortega.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, like that first one with Jenna Ortega.

[Moses Hacmon]

It was the one where, like, the dad also was the killer. When they're like, three.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, before that.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, okay. I saw the latest one where, yeah, like, Courtney Cox was in it, too, because the old guy. There was a dad that was one of the killers. But then the young ones were also, like, his kids or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, yes. That was, I think, six. I think she was five. Mikey was five.

[Moses Hacmon]

I think Mikey Madison. How old was she when she did it? Must have been young.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, like 20s.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, I thought she was, like, early 20s now. I don't know. I'm so bad with ages. Sometimes I'm good, sometimes I'm not. She just seems like she's been around a while. She was in Once My Time in Hollywood Sick.

[Trisha Paytas]

So she probably. That was like, probably 21. 20. 20, 21.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay. I love her. I've always loved her. I remember seeing her and Once Upon Time in Hollywood, the Quentin Tarantino movie, and I was like.

[Trisha Paytas]

And you knew she was going to be a star.

[Moses Hacmon]

I did. Because she had such a little. She was so big impression.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is there a sequel to Once Upon a Time in Hollywood?

[Moses Hacmon]

Is there a sequel?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think they're filming it.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, yeah. But it's not Quentin and it's for, like, streaming. And it's only about Brad Pitt's character, which I love.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you see your favorite actor? What's his name again? Skyler Gondo, who you love. You're the one that tweets him all the time. He's the one. He's in Superman, Jimmy Olsen. And he's also in oh, Love.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yes. Okay. Right to gemstone. That's Gideon. Is his name Gideon? I think his name is Gideon. And righteousness. I love him. He's like, yes, he's my fave.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, he was officially cast as Ariana Grande's love interest in Meet the. In the Meet the Fockers sequel.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love Focker In Law is what it's currently called.

[Moses Hacmon]

First of all, the names are clever. Hate these kind of movies, but the names are good. I'm not. And I want to say, hey, I used to love back in the day. I did rewatch them and I love it. I also am, like, probably like Ethan Slater's probably like, that could also be me. Because they give similar vibes.

[Trisha Paytas]

They do. And the Ariana stand. They replied to the film updates tweet that announced the casting and an Ari Nader said, why are directors afraid to put her with someone hot? And it had a million views and went viral.

[Moses Hacmon]

No. Who said this? Who said this?

[Trisha Paytas]

Just a fan. Yeah. And Skyler posted that on his Instagram in, like, his photo dump of the announcement, he said, proud to be a Focker. As you can see, initial fan reaction looking very positive.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, that's funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that he's like.

[Moses Hacmon]

He's good looking. I love Ethan Slater. I love him.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't think he's ugly. I don't think he's ugly.

[Moses Hacmon]

I don't think he's ugly. He's so cute. Like, if you watch Righteous Gemstone, I haven't seen Superman, but I'm sure he's cute.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I think he could. I think, because I. I only know him in Superman, and next to David Corn Sweat, it's like, well.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, it's like potato, potato or apples and oranges or something. You know what I mean? Like, it's something completely different. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's like saying, like, Ashley Graham and Taylor Swift. Okay. It's like they're two different hotness, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

And ironically, in Superman, his character is the one that's the ladies man. Hot, gets all the girls swoon after him. They don't care about Clark Kent.

[Moses Hacmon]

They care about Jimmy the reporter.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Gunn said that he is like the. He has that Pete Davidson, like, kind of swag.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, wow, that's crazy. That's more insulting than the We Love James Gambaraza. More insulting than this Pete Davidson's crazy because, like, again, he's like, a unique beauty, but he's not, like, traditionally hot. To me, I think this Skyler is, like, traditionally hot.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Moses Hacmon]

He's just. He is like. He's, like, short, not chiseled, but, like, does everyone have to be 6 foot and, like, Abercrombie model? You know what I mean? Yeah, I think he looks good. That's so funny. People are so. People are mean. But Ariana fans be like that. I suppose they're probably like, who do they want to see her with? I mean, she's been with Jonathan Bailey. He's hot.

[Trisha Paytas]

True. Good point, good point.

[Moses Hacmon]

I feel like she's been with hot people.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. What else has she been in Scream Queen, she was quick in it. What else has she been?

[Moses Hacmon]

I don't know. Actually, maybe nothing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

I love how our first breakout starring role is just wicked. Although she is so talented. So that would happen to her.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, obviously. The Nickelodeon, Victoria, Sam and Cat. Besides that, I Mean. Oh, yeah, she did have a small part in don't look Up. I forgot about that.

[Moses Hacmon]

I haven't seen that.

[Trisha Paytas]

And, yeah, just Wicked.

[Moses Hacmon]

Which she's with Johnny the Bailey, so he's hot.

[Trisha Paytas]

Record is not bad. I don't know. You're right. You're right.

[Moses Hacmon]

Just because she's with Ethan Slater in real life, she's not with Bach in the movie.

[Trisha Paytas]

So freaking.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, right.

[Trisha Paytas]

About that. Okay. Her track record is not bad at all.

[Moses Hacmon]

This guy is obviously was attractive in the Superman one. You said all the ladies wanted him. So, like, he's obviously an attractive person. People are wild. He was kind of nothing in Righteous Dumpster. I guess he had a girlfriend or anything, but he was. He was handsome.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'll never forget. Like, Superman premiere. The only person you tweeted was Skyler. You said, we love Skyler.

[Moses Hacmon]

What?

[Trisha Paytas]

The way you don't even realize what you did have.

[Moses Hacmon]

I did that or was I responding?

[Trisha Paytas]

He, quote, tweeted a video of him at the Superman premiere and he said, we love Skyler.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, that's crazy, because he does not look like a Skyler to me. But okay, we do love him. I'll never forget it now. I have loved him since we started watching Gemstones. I love him. I watched it for Walton Gawkins, stayed for Skyler and ended up playing Danny Masterson, which is very crazy, but I did love it. You should watch it. It's so good. I feel like you would, like, weirdly like it.

[Trisha Paytas]

How many seasons is it?

[Moses Hacmon]

It's four. And we, like, binged it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Moses Hacmon]

But each one is like a new villain. Eric Andre is in season two that Steve Zan's in season three. Season four is Meg Malloy. And but you know who's great in it is Adam Devine. And, oh, I do. Like, he's so funny. He's so good. And I don't know, it's so cute at the end, too. He becomes, like, worship Christian man of the year, and he's like the first out gay guy to get that award. So the Christian church has come around. The other Christian guys were trying to, like, squash and be like, this is a Hummel. He wasn't out yet, so they were trying to, like, out him, and he's like, yeah, fine, this is my partner. Whatever. And then he, like, stormed off like, you won. You won. And everyone, like, voted for him. And I was like, oh, I love it. So I was, like, weirdly emotional at the end.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Okay, you have to watch it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm just so bad with watching shows right now. I don't know what is wrong with me besides adhd. I don't know. Like, it's so hard for me to like, be seated for a program. I don't know what it is.

[Moses Hacmon]

Wait, what do you mean? Like bouncing around your house or what?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, like for me to sit down and start the show. Cuz then I see like it's a full hour and I'm like, oh my God. Like that I'm bad at starting it once I watch it. Like, I started Wednesday and I liked it as I was watching it. Like I was paying attention. But like sitting down and pressing play, that's the hard thing.

[Moses Hacmon]

Interesting.

[Trisha Paytas]

So what are you doing?

[Moses Hacmon]

What are you also you doing or what will you do if you like, I'm gonna sit down and then you like, get distracted and do what?

[Trisha Paytas]

I will play a video game or I will watch a YouTube video and.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, so you're doing like other things.

[Brooke]

The commitment.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Brooke]

It's hard for him to commit to an hour.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Brooke]

You rather do like 10 different things that are shorter.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, I get like that. But Right. Distinctions is like 44 minutes. It's like, it seems short. Those seem short. Those always went back, you know, it's really short. Mike and Molly, they're 18 minutes.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's why I love young Sheldon, because it was so quick.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, yeah, you would love it. It does go really fast. Yeah, I do. Yes, I know what you mean. Sometimes I like to pause and stop to see how much longer is left. I'm like, okay, how much are we in in this? But if you really love the show, you get in it. Yeah. Maybe you won't like, write to gemstones. Honestly. Maybe not. You know what I mean? I always think. I know. And then like, maybe not Wednesday. Wednesday's a little slow. I like it, but it was a little slow.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you finish all four of Wednesday?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, actually, no, we're. I think we're two out of four.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm two out of four. I am gonna finish it. Obviously. It actually, I was kind of worried about how well it was gonna do because it was such a long time. And I just haven't seen a lot of like, Wednesday, tick tocks, weeds, anything really. But it's done. The original Wednesday opened with 52 million viewers and season two opened with 50. So only a 2 million difference.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So not bad.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, but I know what you mean. It's not as hyped as the last one. Like, everyone's doing the dance and everything. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So we'll see with part two.

[Moses Hacmon]

But Moses loves it. You always, you get excited to watch it. Yeah. You're like, oh, I want it. Like, I know he likes his show. If he asked me to pause it when he leaves the room, he's like, pause it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was like, I can't miss a minute.

[Moses Hacmon]

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[Moses Hacmon]

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[Moses Hacmon]

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[Trisha Paytas]

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[Brooke]

Yeah, I mean, they seem to expand on the family. Like her brother, her mother, her dad.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, I do like that part.

[Brooke]

I love the daddy. It's like the family dynamic, and the dad kind of takes care of everyone, watches everyone, you know, but it's kind of gangster, too.

[Moses Hacmon]

Love that description of Gomez. You could be Gomez with that mustache.

[Brooke]

Sure.

[Moses Hacmon]

We could be the Addams Family. No, I don't think I have any of the aesthetic, but.

[Brooke]

But you can be the mother.

[Trisha Paytas]

Haven't you done Morticia as well?

[Brooke]

Yeah, you can be Morticia.

[Trisha Paytas]

You've definitely done Wednesday. I feel like you might have done more.

[Brooke]

Malibu is a good Wednesday.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, Malibu would be such a cute Wednesday. Wednesday.

[Moses Hacmon]

She's done Wednesday. She was the. She was like a little baby when I came out. Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think you were definitely Wednesday as well, because I was gonna ask Jenna Ortega at your Wednesday premiere, you were thoughts on this cosplay.

[Brooke]

I'm glad you did a picture of both of you. You and Malibu in the back where the fountain is, and your dress is Wednesday.

[Trisha Paytas]

You literally went to and got a Happy Meal as Wednesday, and you probably were in character. Like, why am I eating a Happy Meal if I'm not exactly what you're doing.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, I definitely. No, there's no way I was acting as Wednesday.

[Brooke]

Face expressions and everything.

[Moses Hacmon]

What? Today I decided I'd try a Happy Meal because it's dark and cloudy and it makes me so very happy. Hi. Yes. Can I get in?

[Trisha Paytas]

Did a tik tok in front of Wednesday. The show as Wednesday. I can't. I can't.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, this was what year this must have been? This was before the podcast, right?

[Brooke]

Malibu was little.

[Trisha Paytas]

Malibu was. Yeah, Malibu was.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay. I was spiraling. I was in the depths of. Of my own hell because I was in major depression era, so I think I forgot everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

We can't clock you for that.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, yeah. Why do I not remember?

[Trisha Paytas]

I, like, I. That's why when you said that, I'm like, I know. I've seen so many different forms of media as you in this cosplay because it was in this era where you would work the hell out of a cosplay. Like, when you were. You had the outfit, you had the glam and the wig. You were Like, I'm getting my money's worth, mama. When you were doing everything, I wouldn't.

[Moses Hacmon]

Say, did I do my own? I think I'm doing, like, I can kind of tell, but. Oh, wow. Also in front of a Beetlejuice. Okay. Just love it. I think I was doing my own hair and makeup back then because that's when we had no money.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that's very impressive because the wig looks really good.

[Moses Hacmon]

Wow. Yeah, I remember that era.

[Brooke]

I did this all day. We had nothing to do. We're just filming all day.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, here you ask Morticia. You said more Trisha.

[Moses Hacmon]

What? And Maple even looks a little bigger there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God, Wednesday. Oh, my God, that's.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's so weird. Well, I remember none of that.

[Trisha Paytas]

So funny.

[Moses Hacmon]

It was a blackout year for sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

You look so fierce as Morticia.

[Moses Hacmon]

Am I? Are you sure that's what I'm dressed as?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Your caption is more Trisha. More Trisha and Wednesday Barbie.

[Moses Hacmon]

I fear I lose it sometimes. I really do get scared. I'm like, oh, my God, am I actually. Like, that is such a scary thing. Oh, no. I used to have such a good memory. Like, I used have such a good memory. Like, if you ask me to memorize lines, songs, like, whenever I do self tape Queen over here, whenever I do self tapes, they're like, oh, you don't have it memorized? I memorize all of it. Like, I memorize lines so well. I don't understand how I forget my own life. That's scary.

[Brooke]

Well, cuz I think because there was no project. We were just doing it for fun, you know?

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, my God. But the fact that I remember her cosplay, like, I feel like I remember all my cosplays, and I did two that I didn't remember. That's kind of scary. I hate that. But okay, I'm gonna just go with that was postpartum year, so I can't remember.

[Trisha Paytas]

Malibu is still so teeny here.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's true. It took about a year for me to, like, feel like myself. So.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, let me see what. I guess I can see what date this was.

[Moses Hacmon]

I mean, we just did a whole content day. Like you said. I must have been doing TikTok ASMR. But I did Wednesday ASMR.

[Trisha Paytas]

You did Wednesday ASMR? Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

So that one, I must have been in character, which is so crazy because I could never imagine myself doing an impersonation of Wednesday.

[Trisha Paytas]

And this was just a day in March. March 2023.

[Moses Hacmon]

It was in March.

[Trisha Paytas]

She did Morticia it kind of makes sense. The show came out in November, so.

[Moses Hacmon]

We did it in March.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, that's. That talks for you.

[Moses Hacmon]

Right now. That's why I want to do it fast. That is bizarre. Yeah.

[Brooke]

Because I don't know that we watched it when it came.

[Moses Hacmon]

Right. Maybe we watch it a little later.

[Brooke]

And also the way it was spread out, but yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Damn. All right. I'm an Adam Stanley fan. You give Adam Stanley. Does he wear a horizontal shirt? A little bit.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah. Pugsley, right? Yeah, I like Pugsley.

[Moses Hacmon]

He's the brother.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. I like Pugsley.

[Moses Hacmon]

He grew a lot this season. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Those three years did a number.

[Moses Hacmon]

They really needed not to. Three years for eight episodes.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know.

[Moses Hacmon]

I mean, they really need to get that grown now.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I like that he has his little powers and stuff.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's what I was confused that. I'm like, what is his powers? He brings things back to life.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think he just has electricity from. I mean, I've only seen two episodes. I don't know.

[Moses Hacmon]

Same. I only saw the Chapter two. He has electricity. We brought that spider back to life with electricity.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's like, I don't know.

[Brooke]

Maybe it's like a defibrillator, you know, like, he has that spark.

[Moses Hacmon]

I was so confused. I'm like, what's his spot? I always ask. I was like, what's his power? Like, I like it. I like the electricity, but also, like, with the zombie. And so I was just like, I don't really get what his thing is.

[Trisha Paytas]

I just kind of go with that.

[Moses Hacmon]

I go with it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Same thing with Wednesday Shake. My powers are. I'm like, what's her powers? I didn't know they were super psychic. I don't think the original Adams family had superpowers.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know either. I think this. In this iteration, there's different magical creatures. Like, there's.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, right, right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sirens, the werewolves.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Invisible people. I don't know.

[Moses Hacmon]

I like the invisible people.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Love Jenna Ortega. I love her bleached eyebrows, everyone. I always see photos of her being like, why does she bleach her eyebrows? She has the face car to pull off.

[Moses Hacmon]

She looks amazing.

[Trisha Paytas]

So good.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, she's gorgeous. She's like an actual model. I love her. I love the whole cast, actually. I love everybody. Steve Buscemi.

[Trisha Paytas]

Me too. I love the girl who plays Enid from Minecraft as well.

[Moses Hacmon]

Do you know the blonde girl from Wednesday was in Minecraft?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Brooke]

Was she the sister?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I haven't seen Minecraft. So I don't know, but I've seen the trailer. I know she's in it. No. Yeah. She has brown hair in real life, so I think she had brown hair in Minecraft.

[Brooke]

Oh, wow. Like, I would not.

[Moses Hacmon]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

There's only, like, three kids in it. Right.

[Moses Hacmon]

But she was, like, really tall and big. She was like the big sister, and the little boy was, like, a little boy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

But she doesn't look like she's old enough.

[Trisha Paytas]

She transforms.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, my gosh. Is she, like, a main one? That's so crazy. Oh, yeah, it was her.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Moses Hacmon]

Brown hair makes no difference.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. You know, I like her as blonde.

[Moses Hacmon]

When people say about Superman, like, oh, you can't tell who he is with his eyes, but it's, like, kind of true. When you took your glasses off, I remember I was like, wow. I never. That was crazy. Like, you look like a different person. So I. I go with it, too, with someone looks completely different.

[Brooke]

Because also in Minecraft, she doesn't have makeup and the wig and everything. And that's really. Her face changed so much.

[Moses Hacmon]

Different character, too. She's so, like, completely different. She's so bubbly and stuff and.

[Brooke]

Yeah, it's her. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, my God. Good for her. I love her, too. Are these people, like, young? Like, is she, like, a teenager, or she, like, in her 20s?

[Trisha Paytas]

That's a good question. Let me see.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's what I always want to know with these. These people. I'm like, I think she's.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is she British, too? She's 23, so she's not that old. And Jenna's 22.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, they're so young.

[Trisha Paytas]

They are very young. I forget Jenna because Jenna has been around so long, I forget how young she is.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, that is wild. Wait, how old was she when she was playing that, like, teacher movie? How long ago? That was, like, a couple years ago, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. She must have been, again, like, probably, like, 20.

[Moses Hacmon]

Not on her, but it's like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

So weird that they. Yeah, that's good. It's a Glee. They were, like, in their 20s, too.

[Trisha Paytas]

When they were older. Like, some of them were 30s.

[Moses Hacmon]

Like, Puck and stuff.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

I was watching an episode yesterday and.

[Trisha Paytas]

Of Glee.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Love.

[Moses Hacmon]

I love Glee, except for Matthew Morrison, but I was watching the one where Darren Criss. I think Kurt, he talked to, like, another guy, and then Blaine just did a whole, like, number dedicated to how, like, he broke his heart. I was like, this is such a weird concept for. The whole thing was very odd. Is basically calling him a cheater. And I said, this show is weird.

[Trisha Paytas]

Me in high school, though, honestly, Really, I like if the guy I liked. This is so specific. I remember the. I had a crush on a straight guy, Dennis. He was so sweet. He was, like, very, like. He knew I was gay, but he was like my bro at the same time. He was a year older than me, but he was like. We had PE Class together, and he would always, like, hang out with me. And yeah, it was like, we just had a funny, like, friendship or whatever and then. But he was dating, like, the most popular. He was, like, the most popular guy in high school. He was dating at the most popular girl. And I would, like, play. I would go home, and I would, like, watch Taylor Swift music videos. Teardrops on my guitar. And I had my guitar, and I would reenact it. Be like, Drew looks at me I fake a smile so he won't see.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, that makes me cry, actually. What's the next slide?

[Trisha Paytas]

I want to know more.

[Moses Hacmon]

The real me is crying.

[Trisha Paytas]

He won't see that I want and I need him. Everything that we should be I'll bet he's. She's beautiful, that girl he talks about. Oh, and she's got everything that I have to live without.

[Moses Hacmon]

I love it. I think I've heard that song.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that song.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, I love it. It is giving the other popular one she has.

[Trisha Paytas]

You belong with me. Yes. She was very. The other girl in the first two albums, which was my. The other gay. I was, you know.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, that is actually so sad. By. Lily had Taylor. I know there would be, like, song. I can't remember songs, but I would, like, do too, like, my heartbroken songs, whatever, but. So I'm glad I never had crushes on high school boys, because they seem awful.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. High school crushes are the worst in retrospect, but they are, you know, good foundation foundation blocks. Building blocks for, you know, the rest of your.

[Moses Hacmon]

It would just be crazy to have, like, a crush that's, like, so close in proximity. Like, all my crushes were, like, literally, like, Donny Osmond, Michael Jackson. So I couldn't imagine someone, like, in my vicinity that I was, like, obsessed with. That's not scary. I probably would be like, a soccer or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, you've made it sound a little scary. For me. It was exciting because, like, the classes we had together, I'd be like, ooh, I'm excited for p. I'm excited for what? I think we had a math class together. I'm excited for math today. It would give me something to, like, look Forward to.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, I wish I. Yeah, I wish I would have had that, like, butterflies that. I don't think I could because, like I said, even meet and greets. Like, if I'm in a meet and greet life for Donnie, I get butterflies. Like, I honestly feel like I'm gonna throw up, so I couldn't even imagine having that in a school where, like, I wouldn't throw up.

[Trisha Paytas]

That he was very, very nice. Like, he was the popular guy, but he was very, like, just nice to everybody. Yeah, like, a lot of the. And he was, like, the jock, too. He was kind of very thin. Very thin.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's giving Fin and Kurt.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. It really is. That's why I can't clock Glee. Because I'm like, damn.

[Moses Hacmon]

But then started being, like, weirdly homophobic. One season to occur. Remember that one episode? He was also being like. And then the death.

[Trisha Paytas]

He didn't want people to think he was gay or something. I don't remember.

[Moses Hacmon]

I don't know if even that was. It was something maybe. No. I don't know. But then the dad was like, what the. That's your brother or something.

[Brooke]

I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, they were like, step or half.

[Moses Hacmon]

Brother or the parents, like, marry each other, but he was being weirdly homophobic. I don't know. It was very odd, but. Okay. So you related?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I definitely related. I'm sure. I. I was seated for Glee very much. I literally, very. You. I bought, like, every Glee song when it came out on itunes.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, love.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I was very much a Gleek for the first, like, three seasons.

[Moses Hacmon]

Favorite Glee cover.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think it would have been.

[Moses Hacmon]

Morning.

[Trisha Paytas]

I wake up, put a motherface with the Cheerios.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, Mom, Kelly and I have redone that 5,000 times on tick Tock. Every time we were a trio, we're like, say a little pit for you. And then in the morning, I wake up up. We did the choreo and everything costume. Jimmy, find it. I made my mom and sister during quarantine. I made them dress up in costume, like, every single day.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it.

[Moses Hacmon]

We're doing Tick Tocks. I did love that one. We should be Cheerios.

[Trisha Paytas]

I also love I bust the windows Mercedes. Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

And I love the little, like. Yeah, that was.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was fierce as hell.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's so good. Well, you know, my favorite is, of course, Blaine's Teenage Dream.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yes. Of course. His original song Teenage Dream, I did.

[Moses Hacmon]

Not know was Katie. I saw someone today who's having, like, a birthday party for their child, and they're like, yeah, we're gonna have a fun. It's gonna be like, you know, Chapel Roan or Sabrina, but no Katy Perry. I was like, oh, my. Oh, my God. Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Jesus.

[Moses Hacmon]

They were like, not about it. I was like, why not Katy Perry?

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like pop star theme, but, like, rules. No Katy Perry.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, like Taylor, like everything, but no Kitty.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Brooke]

She just sold out Madison Square Garden.

[Moses Hacmon]

Who?

[Trisha Paytas]

Katie.

[Brooke]

Katy Perry, you know.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay. Impressive, but not that impressive because you know why it's only 19, 000 people. I thought it was like 80, 000.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know who sold it out was the. You know, the yard. I think they are the basement. I don't know. The two guys from, like, New York, I think.

[Moses Hacmon]

The basement.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. The two straight guys. Is that the basement?

[Moses Hacmon]

I literally never heard of these people.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. I'm forgetting. I just know because one of them's.

[Moses Hacmon]

Like, are they, like, influencers?

[Trisha Paytas]

They're like podcasters. Yeah. And they sold out. And just to do their podcast.

[Moses Hacmon]

Stop it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

They're at Mask Garden in chairs.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

Just talking to each other.

[Trisha Paytas]

What the hell are they called? I'm freaking. The b. Yes. The basement yard.

[Brooke]

Sounds familiar.

[Moses Hacmon]

Never heard of that.

[Trisha Paytas]

They're like funny Italian guys.

[Moses Hacmon]

They sold out. I mean, that's pretty impressive.

[Trisha Paytas]

Have you ever seen these two guys? The basement yard?

[Moses Hacmon]

Never.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, they.

[Moses Hacmon]

No. I mean, that's amazing. Geez, that is cool. Like, if Jake Shane was at Mass Square Garden. I mean, that's like, cool, because, like, obviously he is very mainstream now, but, like, it's cool. Like, Meghan Trainer sold it out. But like, this Megan Trainer, even Katy Perry. I'm like, it is cool, of course. But to me, I thought she could sell Sophie. You know what I mean? So it's like, maybe she can.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know.

[Moses Hacmon]

But Gaga's doing smaller ones.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

So maybe. But it is. Yeah. When I think Dane Cook did mascara in it.

[Brooke]

Yeah. A lot of comedians do a lot because that's like the holy grail for comedians to sell out. Medicine Square Garden. But I think with Katy Perry, it was because people said she can't do it, and then she did it, and then she posted about it.

[Moses Hacmon]

I swear she's done bigger. She did the Super Bowl.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think people think she's more of a. A flop than she is.

[Moses Hacmon]

Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

She still has hits. Like, even though she's not, like, number one in the chart, she still has a good discography.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's kind of Kesha, too. Kesha's kind of, like, killing it. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Kesha did the forum and honestly, I love Cash's new album. I love Kesha's new album.

[Moses Hacmon]

Form is the same as Madison Square. We looked it up. Yeah, because I was looking at the forums. Yeah, that's like 18, 000.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Don't underestimate the pop girls.

[Moses Hacmon]

You know, people just love to see a failure. But I love when people can like flip it. They'll be like, look at this flop of a tour. But then people be like, no, look at all these people. Like, people just trying to show like the worst part.

[Trisha Paytas]

They'll show like the. The parts of the ticket like they don't sell. Like the side stage or backstage, the obstructed views.

[Moses Hacmon]

Because they did that for MCR too. They're like, look how empty it is. And I'm like, but they're literally behind the screen. Like, they're not gonna sell those tickets. Like, people are so annoying. They love to see a flop.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I know.

[Moses Hacmon]

I think about that too. Well, I guess you just cancel. I was like, what if they don't sell? But I guess they just like cancel if they're flopping.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I remember like, whenever I think it was Demi, it was like when people were like rooting against her and they were like, they would show again the ticket seat charts and whatever, you know, like, look how many empty spots are whatever. And then she did like a Groupon for like, it was like, buy one, get one free or something. But like, who cares? Whatever it takes to sell those tickets.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, that's what we did the Day of the Greek. We're like ten dollar tickets. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

But sell them.

[Moses Hacmon]

I love New York for that reason. Because always sold out in New York. So New York mask or garden? We're coming Trishma's. I literally asked my agents, like, okay, can we trap? Like, what if I don't stop? But then it's like, yeah, that's like embarrassing if you only like. It's not embarrassing, but like, that is also, like, you're delusional to think. But maybe not. Bar basement boys. I don't know. They're. I'll have to look at their stats. Maybe. Maybe it's possible.

[Trisha Paytas]

Pretty popular, but they are. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

What do they talk about? You talk, you know about them?

[Trisha Paytas]

I follow them. Yeah, they talk about their, like a lot of life stories, you know, they just are funny guys. They have good chemistry. They're like, I don't know them that well. I follow them because I think one of them is cute. So I followed him and then I followed the other ones just to be fair, you know. So love that.

[Moses Hacmon]

Are you gonna go see him?

[Trisha Paytas]

No. But, you know, I'll appreciate from afar.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's so. That's so interesting. Okay. I love when. I love when your podcast can be just stories about your life and make it interesting.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. Me too. Kudos if you can.

[Moses Hacmon]

Very few people can actually listen to them because, like, there's so many people that I listen to. I won't like name names. I'm not gonna be a hater this episode, but that just like, tell their life stories. Like, this is so boring, you know, but if you can make it interesting.

[Trisha Paytas]

And they have a good. They have good chemistry, good rapport. So that makes it.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, that makes such a difference, actually. Yeah. Like, if you're talking to the person that gets you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Shout out to basement yards. Basement yard boys.

[Moses Hacmon]

Basement yard boys. I like it. I like it. Their poster looks cool. And they already played Mask. We're garden.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think it's coming up. Let's see. Oh, November 13th.

[Moses Hacmon]

I'm at a stage in my life where I'm happy for people.

[Trisha Paytas]

Me too. For the most part. Yeah. Unless I hate you then or dislike you, and then boo. But tomato, tomato. I'm sorry.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, you can hate some people. With any luck. Some people. I have a difference of opinion, but I respect Moses philosophy. I like your philosophy. I wish I could adhere to that, but I don't know if that's really me. Yeah, there's very few people I hate, but I also don't think about them that often.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, speaking of hate, Matt Rife, this was my mom.

[Moses Hacmon]

Hot Topic sent me this this morning.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, this was all over my tick tock.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, I haven't seen. I literally saw nothing about it. I was like, what is it?

[Trisha Paytas]

I see it for some reason. This is all over my tik tok. Matt Rife is. Was the new spokesperson for an album crazy cosmetics campaign.

[Moses Hacmon]

Ray Crazy. Actually wild. Someone who hates women does not want women as their audience. It's like, let me get this makeup brand deal. I would be embarrassed if I was him. I should be embarrassed about the brand. I'd be like, what? What?

[Trisha Paytas]

Elf's new ad campaign features Matt Rife, but also Heidi in closet, who is a drag queen. She was on RuPaul's Drag Race.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

And obviously it's receiving backlash because of Matt's con controversial remarks about domestic violence and also just his constant jokes about women and their vaginas and the fact that he's cheated on Like a dozen of them.

[Moses Hacmon]

So also the fact that even not joking, not in a stand up routine, he's like, I don't want women as my people. Yeah, as my audience.

[Trisha Paytas]

He pretty much made it very, very clear, like, I don't want women that his. The demographic that he wants to cater to is men. Like, he made that, that decision to change his brand from like being girl friendly to just being for the boys, which make your decision. But then, yeah, don't come trying to market to the girls. Like, what?

[Moses Hacmon]

I. I don't understand any of this. Like, I mean, maybe he's. I don't know. Because if he's trying to rebrand, you need to, like, apologize. Even if you're like trying to cater. Again, okay. The women are my audience. I need to sell these tickets. Again, like, apologize.

[Trisha Paytas]

And don't forget, when he. We like women who wanted to support him asked for an apology, he linked to buying special needs helmets. He said, here is my apology for everyone who I've insulted for my domestic violence jokes. And the link went to buying helmets for special needs people.

[Moses Hacmon]

I think.

[Trisha Paytas]

So he really doesn't care.

[Moses Hacmon]

Unforgivable. Yeah, I think it's unforgivable because he didn't ask for forgiveness. And also, just what. What did ALF respond?

[Trisha Paytas]

Because I haven't responded as of right now.

[Brooke]

But this is trying to sell makeup for men or was the advertising makeup? What was the product for?

[Trisha Paytas]

It's a. The whole thing was like basically like a parody. It was inspired by their super bowl campaign where they did. It was instead of Judge Judy, it was Judge Beauty. So the premise is it's a. Elf had a law offices of Elf and schmarns, which featured rife and hiding closet. So they were like legal attorneys that were against expensive makeup. Like, you don't need expensive makeup. You have Elf.

[Moses Hacmon]

And was he funny in it? Did you watch it? I, like, could not.

[Trisha Paytas]

I watched.

[Moses Hacmon]

You did watch?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Was he funny?

[Trisha Paytas]

No. I mean, not to me. And he did the hey girl wink. I'm like, you're not Ryan Gosling. Like, yes, it was very icky.

[Moses Hacmon]

He gave me, like, I saw it, like, just like the screenshot or something on Elf Cosmetics. I don't know. It was like popped up on Instagram and I was like, absolutely not. And because it was Monday, I mean, this has been a couple days. That's why I'm surprised Elf hasn't responded. Because I saw it right after our hard topics last time. I was like, oh, this would have been hot topics. So it definitely Was out Monday.

[Trisha Paytas]

Damn. And I. Because I've only seen like my tick tock has been a lot of people like stitching it. Like stitching the elf thing and then being like, oh, this is not it. And people throwing away their elf. So yeah, I am surprised. And honestly, I'm gonna join those girls too because I use a lot of elf and I'm.

[Moses Hacmon]

Are you throwing it away?

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm gonna finish it. Because I feel like that's wasteful. I'm not gonna rebuy it. I'm not gonna rebuy it.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. They went from Jennifer Coolidge super bowl to Matt Rife.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like the equivalent in my head.

[Moses Hacmon]

I have so many equivalents in my head.

[Trisha Paytas]

This is like Logan Paul being the face of like a suicide prevention hotline. This is what it gives me.

[Moses Hacmon]

But at least it's like redeeming himself being like, you know, like good. Cause something. This is just like, let's just ignore it. Yeah, no, I know what you mean. It is very. That or it's very.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's so opposite. It's. It's like so counter.

[Moses Hacmon]

I had so many analogies that came to my head when he first said it. Cuz I was like, oh my God, this doesn't make any sense. Like, yeah, it's crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

And also making poor Heidi and Closet be in this campaign with him is like.

[Moses Hacmon]

I wonder she knew.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, I doubt she. I mean honestly. Heidi gets your bag.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, right. Same. A bag's bag. But it is crazy. Like she didn't know and she just showed up and it's Matt R. And.

[Trisha Paytas]

When has Matt R. Ever spoken out to support queer people?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, I might. If I should say I. Like I'm like really trying to think realistically. Like I might. I might say no because like I would be like, I don't know if I want to be like. But like, like you said, I guess it's like money, money. But I don't know, I'd be.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think it depends on like if you are. If you are in a position where you can, you know, like Heidi, I think definitely like working.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Drag artists do not make enough money. So true.

[Moses Hacmon]

And it's a good opportunity. It's all cosmetics.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. It's so wild for Elf to even look. I don't understand. Why do you need him to sell cosmetics to women?

[Moses Hacmon]

That's so weird.

[Brooke]

They probably. It sounds like just a typical corporate. Somebody was, you know, saw a stand up comedy. They're like, we need a comedian who's a hot comedian. Somebody said Matt Drive. And they booked it. Like they have no idea anything besides that.

[Moses Hacmon]

Because look at all we were talking about today. Like all the like Gen Z that runs all social media and stuff like that. You know, like, like commenting on people's posts and like paper Mate and RB coming. Like they know. Like someone there knows.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're right. And also when someone is booked for a campaign, like it's vetted. Like, one Google search would have come up. Matt Rife domestic. You know what I mean?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, yeah, one Google search, it would have been there. Yeah. Because it's also not that long ago. It's like a year ago. So someone had to have known and would have been like, oh, that's fine. The get the basement yard boys.

[Moses Hacmon]

You know, I'm sure there's so many girl gay friendly comedians out there.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, if you want a straight guy, I guess do like the basement or something. Do you even need a straight guy to sell makeup? Like, that's just so weird to me.

[Moses Hacmon]

That is weird. They literally could have put Manny emulators Bretman rock. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

There's so many people.

[Moses Hacmon]

It was very weird.

[Trisha Paytas]

So odd to me.

[Moses Hacmon]

I'm so. I'm actually so confused. I saw that. I was like, that's actually like infuriating. That's actually so crazy. Unless like everyone, like people are trying to rage bait these days.

[Trisha Paytas]

But like, I'm thinking too. I'm like, is everyone just purpose? I'm surprised Matt Rack didn't be like, it's in the jeans. You know what I mean? Like, I have the jeans to wear makeup. Or are your jeans lacking? Well, here's some makeup. Like, it is so weird. Everyone just wants to rage me. I don't know. But Elf is such a big brand that like huge and not suffer. Like, Elf is so big and isn't like down bad. You know what I mean? Like I. American. American Eagle. Like malls are. It's weird because la, like malls are still popping. But like malls across America, like, they.

[Moses Hacmon]

Don'T bring as much.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. So I guess I could see like American Eagle needing something. But Elf.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's what I think too, because it is a good makeup and affordable.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. But damn, I'm gonna have to find something else. Something else. Something else.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's so sad. Well, they'll probably have to make a statement. But like, as we've seen, everyone doubles down with their apologies.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know.

[Brooke]

They fire the person because they're too old for their job.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, the per. Yeah, the person I didn't know. Well, they got Michaela.

[Trisha Paytas]

I Would have loved seen her.

[Moses Hacmon]

She could have been the lawyer.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would have taken a Michaela over.

[Moses Hacmon]

In Matt R. You could have been the lawyer. Sure. I would love to see you. That'd be such a slay, actually, I do like.

[Trisha Paytas]

I do wear the. Like, why don't you have someone who wears the product? You know, it's so true. It's so weird to me. Why would you.

[Moses Hacmon]

That is a good point. Well, Matt R. Does look like he wears a lot of makeup.

[Trisha Paytas]

He does look like. I wish he would own it. Be like, yeah, I do wear.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, he says he doesn't.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't. I think he's.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

That won't even admit to the jaw. So, like, all right, if he would admit to this stuff, it'd be fierce.

[Moses Hacmon]

But instead, he's denial.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, everyone's jealous of him.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, everyone's jealous.

[Moses Hacmon]

That is so funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

I can't.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, the comeback. I don't know about this. Annabelle and this. Just go be with Annabelle.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, just go stick with Annabelle.

[Moses Hacmon]

Go stay in the haunted house.

[Trisha Paytas]

Let's not forget he has a freaking rom com coming out next year. So everyone.

[Moses Hacmon]

Wait, with who?

[Trisha Paytas]

It was Roberts.

[Moses Hacmon]

Crazy. Crazy. Like, it's. Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's actually all these big projects being marketed to women after, like, being so misogynistic and just being, like, blatantly not wanting that demographic. Shaming women's vaginas, disrespecting women, cheating on a dozen. Like, it's so weird.

[Moses Hacmon]

I'm. I'm actually. Yeah, that's actually because it's, like, one thing to, like, cast someone or whatever, and, like, it doesn't go over well. But it's like, this is like, his brand is, like, anti women.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. And then who's gonna be buying tickets to rom com? Yeah, the men who are seeing his comedy shows. I don't think so.

[Moses Hacmon]

Damn. And I do love Emma Roberts.

[Trisha Paytas]

Me too. Oh.

[Moses Hacmon]

Maybe it was all before all this, like, happened. Maybe it was, like, filmed, like, years ago.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was announced a couple months ago.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, no.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know.

[Moses Hacmon]

I hate it. Not supporting it.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I love a rom com, but I'm putting my foot. And I love a, you know, a brow gel. I love a concealer. I love a color corrector. But I'm putting my foot down.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. I feel like this is another one. We just skip. Like, there's so many things that are like, we don't have this other day, too. It's just like, if something's triggering, I just have to, like, skip it. These days. And that's why when I saw the Matt Rife thing, I'm like, gonna even engage in anything. I don't want to know about it because I feel like it just like, it does piss me off. I call the I've had it, ladies, because this is my. I've had it. I've had it with Matt Rife. He's not gonna happen. It's never gonna happen. Like, let's stop making him happen. He'll go along the route I predict of Dane Cook where, like, Dane Cook was, like, really, like, funny and loved and all the, like, girls liked him. But somewhere along the line, I don't know what happened to Dane Cook, but somewhere along the line, he lost it. He's, like, rude to people. Like, people I know personally. He's like, super rude to them. Obviously. Met his wife, 18, but whatever. You know what I mean? It's just like, I predict him going down that route because you're kind of like, what happened? I think that's what we're gonna ask about Matt Rife in 10 years. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think eventually it catches up to you. I mean, especially if, like, if he had his lane and it was just like, I want to be a controversial stand up comedian, that's fine. But if you want to do brand deals, Brand deals and movies, stuff that is, like, literally marketed towards women, there's going to be a lot of people who aren't going to forget. And I'm gonna remind them every time you come out with something.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. I mean, and I think in this case that is acceptable because it's like, everyone's like, well, we should allow people to change and grow. He has no interest in it. He hasn't shown any of it. Because, like, if you are trying to do a rebrand, like we talked about, like, Howard Stern or Jimmy Kimmel, at least they're, like, trying. At least they're trying to, like, you know, make a difference and, like, you know, talk about current things that are affecting everybody. But Matt Rife has done none of that. And, yeah, we hate it. And he has money. He can donate to, like, an organization, like you said, like a DV shelter or something to, like, show that he is. Sorry.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

But he's not.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

And yeah, I hate the. I hate that profiting off of people that you dislike is.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

Crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

Like, and I don't like it. And do girls like it or anyone? I wonder if any of the. I haven't even read the comments. I was just so annoyed. I was like, I'm not gonna read it.

[Brooke]

I just read tons of comments. And people are just disappointed because people like this.

[Moses Hacmon]

It.

[Brooke]

Because it was like, animal cruelty free.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

So that was their go to. And they just. They're just. Everyone is upset. Everyone are just like. They're choosing the route of rage bait instead of.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, they said rage bait. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

So everyone, like you said, it's so weird for like a big. That's like Coca Cola rage baiting or something. It's like, everyone loves you. You don't have to do that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Like, yeah, you're. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're the products already, so.

[Moses Hacmon]

Right. Yeah. Yeah. It sucks. And Alvin's, like, one of the last remaining affordable, like, good ones.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

All the other cheap ones are, like, cheap. That is disappointing. That's actually sad. But, like, yeah, it'll catch up over time.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Things will flop and people will be like.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then another controversial shoot was the Anna Delvey photo shoot with the live bunnies.

[Moses Hacmon]

I did not see this. I had seen. Someone sent it in our group chat. Jimmy, I said, Anna Delvey. I didn't watch. I didn't see it. What was it?

[Trisha Paytas]

I ended up. After he sent it. I kept seeing more and more updates. Dates, actually.

[Moses Hacmon]

So it's not the AI Bunnies.

[Trisha Paytas]

No.

[Moses Hacmon]

On the trampoline. Because it kind of looks like that in the little thumbnail.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is so funny. No, it's not the AI These are real bunnies. So Anna Delvey did a photo shoot in New York with three live bunnies. And the New York Times did an article about it that. Because the three bunnies that she used ended up just being dumped in, like, a park. In the park where she did the photo shoot.

[Moses Hacmon]

They just left them there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, they just left these bunnies in Prospect park in Brooklyn.

[Moses Hacmon]

Did they find the bunnies in the park?

[Trisha Paytas]

So a. Yes, they said. And then someone saw a photo of it and then just like, oh, three bunnies in the park. And then there was someone named Terry Chow. Saw that. They saw the bunnies and like, oh, these look really similar to the photos that she posted with because it was three the same color.

[Moses Hacmon]

They're all in a pack together always.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was like, three of them.

[Moses Hacmon]

But what are the chances they stayed three together?

[Brooke]

It's a good chance because I think.

[Trisha Paytas]

That, yeah, I get sticking.

[Moses Hacmon]

They travel enough family. I've never seen the same three animals together. I would see Bunny solo.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I get maybe if they were, like, born and raised. Like, if they're already bonded, if they're a bonded trio, because it's also really difficult for. To bond rabbits.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

[Trisha Paytas]

So if they're already bonded, then they're probably going to be sticking together. Especially like the safety numbers.

[Moses Hacmon]

Never seen that. And we live in a valley, so we see a lot of bunnies, but.

[Trisha Paytas]

They'Re also not wild. You know, these are pets. So they got. They wanted three rabbits for the shoot. So one of the people that Anna hired in the hair and makeup team, they asked him to if he could find rabbits. So he went, he's like, yes, my friend will lend me three rabbits. So they were pets. They weren't like wild rabbits. They were three pets.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh.

[Trisha Paytas]

And they went and used them for this photo shoot. And then after the photo shoot, they. He just left them in this park.

[Moses Hacmon]

So why would he do that at their pets? If I'm borrowing your fish, I'm not going to just leave them in the ocean.

[Trisha Paytas]

Exactly. So that was the whole thing. So first when people heard about this, they obviously went directly to Anna Delvey because she's the one. The photo shoot also one of the photos she has, she's holding a rabbit upside, like a baby, like upset, like on its back. And that like is really stressful for rabbits as well. So people were clocking that.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, no.

[Trisha Paytas]

And. And Anna had to do how to release a statement because the New York Times was covering this. It was pretty. I was kind of surprised. The New York Times, they really went in on this.

[Moses Hacmon]

But don't mess with bunnies. Tea.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's the new one.

[Moses Hacmon]

Is that they said, no, I'm just. Because it's true. Bunnies are so precious. Yeah. I get mad about coyotes. Well, there's coyotes in this area. They try to get the bunnies sometimes they do a lot.

[Trisha Paytas]

And Anna had to release a statement. She said, as many of you are aware, I recently did a photo shoot with Jasper Solof involving live rabbits. Christian Batty, a member of the hair team I briefly met during a fashion week event last year, responded that he knew someone who could lend us bunnies for a few hours. I later discovered that instead of borrowing animals from a legitimate source like he claimed, he had obtained them via Facebook Marketplace and intended to release them into Prospect Park, a plan of which I had no knowledge. The idea that someone would compromise the well being of innocent animals. For personal networking opportunities and deeply disturbed at Capella University.

[Moses Hacmon]

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[Trisha Paytas]

Plus, career coaches are available to help.

[Moses Hacmon]

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[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. And I think she said that she's like, she is vegetarian and stuff. So she's like, I would never hurt animals because that's like my whole thing. And then she did have a, to her credit, she did have a lot of receipts. Like she had screenshots of like a group text of like her publicist and the team that she was working with for the photo shoot. And in the text messages, Christian seemingly admitted that he dumped the bunnies. He said, I was panicking with the bunnies. That's the reason I dumped them.

[Moses Hacmon]

Wait, what do you mean panicking? What does that mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

So he, he's, he is claiming that he borrowed these three bunnies but the original owner blocked him when he tried to return them. So he panicked and then dumped them in the park. But it, she's like, that's really hard to believe because why would it. If you borrowed them from someone, they would want them back. So what? It seems like seemingly that he went and just bought three rabbits off Facebook Marketplace, didn't intend to keep them and was just like, oh, I'll just set them free.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Which is crazy.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh no.

[Trisha Paytas]

So it was a whole thing he said. When I realized the rabbits were being surrendered to me, I panicked. He is only 19, so it is like he said. At 19, with no experience caring for animals, no pet friendly housing and no knowledge of available resources, I felt overwhelmed and made the worst possible choice. Believing mistakenly that there were existing rabbits in that area, I released them there thinking that was my best option.

[Moses Hacmon]

Even wild rabbits are not safe though. We have them in our area and they are prey.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, true.

[Moses Hacmon]

You know there's a lot of predatory animals. That's actually is so sad. Yeah, that might be the saddest of all the hot topics we covered.

[Trisha Paytas]

There is a happy ending. They were Rescued the.

[Moses Hacmon]

By the Facebook marketplace person or just someone else?

[Trisha Paytas]

Someone else. Some. They were. Each of them were rescued and rehomed. But then Anna was upset because some of the rescuers were doing interviews and she was like, why are you rescuing these rabbits? And then doing press.

[Moses Hacmon]

Anna was upset.

[Trisha Paytas]

She was upset at the rescuers for doing press with their rabbits.

[Moses Hacmon]

Everyone, I guess, needs a little. But did they separate them? There were three individual people. Got them. No, they're all adapted together.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, the three of them are together right now.

[Moses Hacmon]

What are the bunny's names?

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know what the names are, actually. I apologize.

[Moses Hacmon]

Keep them anonymous. Yeah, don't wanna.

[Brooke]

Eddie, Freddy and.

[Moses Hacmon]

Jojo. Got him. There was a. I don't. I wanted to stay on this for a minute, but I did see a picture of Jojo holding, like, a baby. Did you see that?

[Trisha Paytas]

No. And the.

[Moses Hacmon]

The caption was like, oh, met these two people. I have to find this. Oh, my gosh. And she was like, literally holding a kid. And like, they're natural. I don't know if they actually were just joking that they didn't know who they were, but they were acting like they just, like, let her hold it. And they're like, oh, my God, this baby is just taking to them so naturally. Maybe at Disneyland or something. I don't know. I could be way wrong. But it's giving. It's giving bunny vibes. Did you see it? Am I just. Maybe I was hallucinating. Sometimes I do that.

[Brooke]

So is Jojo holding a biggie?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, it was recent. Like, yesterday.

[Trisha Paytas]

I wonder where you put it. Because you unfollowed her on Instagram, right?

[Moses Hacmon]

I mean, she's been blocked on there for a while. I don't know how to unblock. I want to unblock her, but I don't know how. And then she wanted to keep my block Instagram story anyways. The bunnies are. That's devastating.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's so sad.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm glad they're. There's a happy ending, though, and they're all three saved together.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, I'm surprised Anna would want to do it with animals. Like, real, real animals, because she's so against one people doing press for the animals, the people who rescue.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God, you're actually so right.

[Moses Hacmon]

Like, why would you. Because, you know, you know, Pam's not posing with real rabbits.

[Trisha Paytas]

She reposted on her Instagram story, like the original person said, doing some interviews. All buns are happy and safe and headed soon to their foster home. And then she reposted that and said just look at these self righteous clowns soaking up their interviews while all while using rabbits as props and riling up masses to send me more death threats.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's wild. I love Anna W. But that's actually literally gaslighting them. Yeah. Wow. You're using them as props. Literally what you were doing.

[Trisha Paytas]

What a great joy. Please pleased to inform everyone that these rabbits are now allowed to stare at this woman's sustained futon for the rest of their natural lives. She a girl after she reposted the person who adopted or is fostering the the rabbits.

[Moses Hacmon]

That is actually crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, they do have names. My apologies. Moon, Joaquin and Parker.

[Moses Hacmon]

Parker's wild. Moon's cool. It's like Moon Zappa. Then there's like Joaquin Phoenix. Who's Parker? Like what Parker Parker be named after.

[Trisha Paytas]

Parker Posey Peter Parker.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, I love word association. Like what do you think of first when you say Parker? That's it. What is that from on Tick Tock? Oh, what does the caption say? And who posted it?

[Brooke]

When kind souls offer to hold your baby so you can be hands free for a moment and now your baby won't let you take her back. Yeah, the baby is just like chilling on.

[Moses Hacmon]

They made it like, oh, I just gave them my baby for a little bit and now someone so they can.

[Brooke]

Be hands free for a minute.

[Moses Hacmon]

Who posted it?

[Trisha Paytas]

Did JoJo post it or someone else?

[Brooke]

The person that the baby belongs to.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, that's what I saw. Just like a random post. And then comes like, that's Jojo and.

[Brooke]

Chris like the babysitters on the cruise.

[Moses Hacmon]

So they're on the cruise on a cruise? Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

How odd.

[Brooke]

That's funny. But baby is happy that they're having fun.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, no, for sure. She looked very great. Look at her. She's like cuddling her.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh wow. Okay.

[Moses Hacmon]

Chris is next. They must know him.

[Brooke]

I don't know. I. I can see Jojo just being.

[Trisha Paytas]

That I feel like kids would be drawn to Jojo. Don't you think?

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, for sure.

[Brooke]

They look the same. She looks like a baby.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, Jojo.

[Brooke]

Yeah, she has a baby face.

[Trisha Paytas]

What?

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay. I guess it's not a bad thing. Yeah, no, I loved. I. I love that. I guess. Yeah, we did that. I guess. Matt Woo. We're like here. We gave her a few one. There's a picture. We'll see. We can fight in. She was just like laying on Oscar. Yeah, babies just do that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

It was giving that same vibes. That is true. There's something kind of Fun babies. I guess if you know the person to like be like hold our baby. I saw one, it's an old song, current Hot Topic. But someone, someone just gave their dog to Ariana Grande at like a red carpet. Did you ever see that one?

[Trisha Paytas]

No.

[Moses Hacmon]

They like give it to her. She's like holding it. She's like dressed like super fancy. I'm sure her dress is like so expensive. And she's like nice and sweet. Because Ariana like loves animals. But like if someone just threw a dog at me to pose with on the red carpet, the dog obviously didn't care. The dog was like, whatever. But then she's like all she said. Her face is like, what? And then she's like holding it and then like not taking it back. I'm like, what if someone just gave you the dog and. And like left? Cuz that was like if I was carpet wearing like Versace or something, I don't know, I'd be like. I mean, I guess, I guess. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel like you're. You'd panic. I'd be like, okay, me for sure.

[Moses Hacmon]

Cuz I don't know how to hold a dog. As we've seen when Jeff was here.

[Brooke]

Yeah, he's a little bit.

[Moses Hacmon]

I really don't know how to hold dogs because that would be the same as probably Anna with a rabbit. Like I don't. I wouldn't know how to hold them. So I get a little nervous. Even babies. I never knew how to hold babies as I don't like to hold other people babies because I sometimes. Maybe now that I'm a parent I could. But before I was. I did not. You were very good. I don't know how to hold a baby. I'm always just like, how do you hold them?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I do get scared of holding like baby babies.

[Moses Hacmon]

Baby babies. Yeah, me too. Sometimes. Like the neck, the support and people came for me. The first baby. It was. I remember like I didn't know like to support like the neck fully, like how to do it. Like it's. It's scary. It's hard.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

So maybe Anna didn't know about the rabbit. JoJo was great. Maybe she will be a mom soon. I don't know who posted that though. That was so ran out. I'm glad you found it. I literally thought I was going crazy sometimes. I'm like, no one saw this and especially you. You're always online, I thought. And you always have a JoJo Hot Topic.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's true. I guess I'm not on JoJo Talk. Let's keep it that way, hopefully. But I feel like you are.

[Moses Hacmon]

The raspy thing was I was like. I didn't even see that at all.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, that's just in the news.

[Moses Hacmon]

Really?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

ET Covered it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

Wow. Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Raspberry was mainstream news, mama. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's so crazy because you brought up like, this is so niche. This is so random mainstream. All right. Trust. I trust you. You do know. I know. I know nothing.

[Trisha Paytas]

My Tick Tock is in a weird predicament right now. It's a lot of that. That country, I think the AI country song. What have you haven't heard it? Drinking a beer and flicking my bean. You ever heard that song?

[Moses Hacmon]

Sounds like a real country song.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I heard this song. It is like every Tick Tock. I assumed it was just everyone. It's like jetsu Holiday. Drinking the beer and flicking mad.

[Moses Hacmon]

You know this one?

[Brooke]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

What?

[Brooke]

But maybe because I'm always, like, on.

[Trisha Paytas]

Silent, like, oh, you watch Tick tock.

[Brooke]

On silence at night time. Everyone's sleeping.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. I assume.

[Moses Hacmon]

What is it? It's just like a. AI created a country song.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like this. It's like the trend is playing. People play this song for, like, their. Like old. Like their parents or grandma or something, like their memaw. But, like, look, meemaw, this is the number one country song right now. And the lyric, it's like drinking a beer and flicking map.

[Moses Hacmon]

And the lyrics, I thought it was a real country song or something, but I think the trend sounds familiar.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Oh, my God. Now it's gonna.

[Moses Hacmon]

But to me, that sounds like a country song. So, like, what's the gag?

[Trisha Paytas]

The gag is the lyrics are. It's all about. Yes. Thank you. I love that song.

[Moses Hacmon]

Censored. Censor all of it. And so, like, the. What are the grim hands reactions?

[Trisha Paytas]

They're just their guy. They go, oh, my God.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, they know what it means to me. I'd be like, I barely know what that means. So I've been.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well at first. Sometimes it takes them a while because.

[Moses Hacmon]

Like, flicking my bean. I like. That's so kind of like current to me.

[Trisha Paytas]

It takes them a while sometimes. Then it's like corn on the cob and rubbing my crazy.

[Moses Hacmon]

Wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

AI is being used.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's crazy. Did you use the sound?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I haven't. Me, with Ted Nivsen, I really bake it on him to be my first Tick tock. So I pulled it out for him.

[Moses Hacmon]

That one I could actually see because he is kind of like A hangout kind of person. You know what I mean? Like, when people are here, I always assume they want to like leave. Not in. Like they don't want to be here. It's like they have stuff to do. Tad likes to take it. He loves a chat.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, he loves it.

[Moses Hacmon]

And I love that too. There's. But there are some people who are like, I have a hard out at one and I'm like, okay. So I'm trying to get them out by like one. Okay. Which I love. But also, you never know. I never want to be wasteful people's time. But he would be one.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. I feel like he would do that Tick Tock with me. I wonder if he's heard it. I guess if you. I should have done it with you playing that. Although you probably would have just thought it was real. So I had a good reaction when.

[Moses Hacmon]

You played it longer because I think I have heard the beginning of that and I seen that trend.

[Trisha Paytas]

And you just assumed it was like.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, like Morgan Wallen or something. I was like, okay. I mean, I don't know any country. Other country people, but that's what I would have assumed. I can't keep up. But yeah, I guess once it gets more into it, it sounds a little.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's so funny that that's your.

[Moses Hacmon]

Tick Tock right now.

[Trisha Paytas]

Literally, like every other Tick Tock is that song.

[Moses Hacmon]

I actually don't even know what my Tick Tock page is. I'm trying to think what it is.

[Trisha Paytas]

Also the Stern, the Sterniolo triplets who I am a recent fan of.

[Moses Hacmon]

I have no idea who they are either. Who are they? What do they do?

[Trisha Paytas]

I have no idea. I, I, for some reason I keep getting clips of them on my Tick Tock. I know they're friends with Tariyami. Who isn't? Who isn't?

[Moses Hacmon]

I guess, yeah, everybody I know at.

[Trisha Paytas]

Least one of them is gay. I don't know about the other two, but I just saw one. It was a compilation of one of them being like into like stopping their vlog to look at hot guys. And I'm like, work.

[Moses Hacmon]

So yeah, wait, that was in their vlog. So one of them is.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it was a compilation of one of them interrupting. He's like, sorry, I was looking at a hot guy and it was like a combination of it. So love that. Yeah. Shout out Strenue Yellow Triplet. So it's them. Who else do I see? A lot. A lot of vanilla. A lot of vanilla. Maze clips.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

A lot of Caleb clips. Caleb And Drew and Britney. That's pretty much it.

[Moses Hacmon]

We're on, like, very different. I don't even know what TikTok is, honestly.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm trying to think, you know, slushy noobs.

[Moses Hacmon]

What's that? Love the name. What's a slushy noob?

[Trisha Paytas]

One of them got engaged, so that was one of my hot topics. But really it was just like, you know, slushy noobs actually shout out Martin and Mandy. They recreated the Shane and Ryland engagement photo for their engagement photo shoot.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's so good.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Wait, who's Martin and Mandy?

[Trisha Paytas]

Martin is one of one out of two slushy noobs. Mandy is his now fiance.

[Moses Hacmon]

They just got engaged and they did the Shane and Ryan.

[Trisha Paytas]

They did a proper engagement photo shoot, but one of the photos is him on two knees.

[Moses Hacmon]

I love. I think people should propose that way. What do they do?

[Trisha Paytas]

What do they.

[Moses Hacmon]

Podcasts.

[Trisha Paytas]

They game. They. Yeah, they also podcast. Yes, yes, yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

I love it. They're giving me. I don't know who they are, but it gives me, like, Drew. Any of it. Vibes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Similar. Yeah, Very similar vibe.

[Moses Hacmon]

I don't know why. Just like the shade. I'm just trying to think. I'm like, okay. They're kind of. Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

Cute. Good looking.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Cute models. No, they're like. They're cute, but, like, quirky model cute, if that makes sense. You know what I mean?

[Moses Hacmon]

Because, like, you're not like, model Mandy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is like, traditionally beautiful. Like, yeah, the slushy noobs, boys. They're like, quirky.

[Moses Hacmon]

Love the name. What's it from? Slushy. How do you come up with it? You should know the lore.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. I'm not that deep into this. And so slushy noodles lore. But they do spell noobs with a Z at the end, which I think is fun.

[Moses Hacmon]

What does everyone spell noobs that way? Because isn't there, like, you remember those little balls that Shane used to do? Remember those, like, little balls that you would, like, jump and squeeze? Like, if someone swallows them, they can kill you.

[Trisha Paytas]

What is that?

[Moses Hacmon]

It's like they're for kids, but if kids swallow them, they'll expand and they're called noobs. Something with the Z newbies or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, because like, in a noob is like, someone who is like, in online spaces. Like a nerd. Yeah, like new and like, doesn't. Isn't with it.

[Moses Hacmon]

Like a newbie.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, exactly.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay. Noobs.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

They're slushy noobs Yes, I was.

[Trisha Paytas]

I getting glued literally was just, you know, slushy noobs.

[Moses Hacmon]

But no, I don't. But I.

[Trisha Paytas]

Engagement.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay. I love what. I do love when people get engaged. Someone else got engaged, too. I forgot. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that even Popgrave tweeted, slushy wow. From slushy noobs got engaged.

[Moses Hacmon]

I like that. I think that's the best time of life is an engagement. I think, like, honestly, I tell these type of people, if, like, one wants to get married and one doesn't, I'm like, just get engaged. Cause then you don't have to get married. That person's got a ring, they can say, we're engaged. It's kind of just the best time. And then you don't have to fully get married if you don't want to just stay engaged forever. You know, I think that's, like, the best.

[Trisha Paytas]

But don't you think if someone's engaged too long, though, people are like.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, but so, you know. I know what you mean. I definitely just, like, wanted to get married. But, you know, people love a long engagement. Some people. Who was it? Cristiano Ronaldo just got engaged. I was like, who just got engaged?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

After like 15 years. Five kids. Yeah, but it was like a 28 karat ring or something. Yes, it was humongous.

[Trisha Paytas]

So another SeaWorld concert, Trina performed, and there was a woman was arrested. Arrested at SeaWorld at the Trina concert. And now I'm really curious what the hell is going on at Sea World? Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

What do you mean, what's going on? Animal abuse. Not even allegedly. We see them in a giant tank. Not so giant. A small tank for killer whale. Like, you know, like, call it what it is.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's so wild to me that people are going just for these concerts and then a woman getting arrested. Literally, as Trina is performing, a woman is getting arrested.

[Moses Hacmon]

What is she getting arrested for?

[Trisha Paytas]

I couldn't. Wouldn't, like, find out the crime she committed. What? Also what at SeaWorld specifically, SeaWorld is a little bit lawless, it seems. You know, like, again, like you said, these animals are in tanks and stuff. So it's like, what does it take to get arrested at SeaWorld?

[Moses Hacmon]

I feel like a lot of people anywhere but Disney is like, a place for brawls. Because I used to know. I knew someone, too, who would, like, get into fights at Six Flags all the time.

[Trisha Paytas]

And he recorded Six Flags. Make sense to me. Six Flags a little bit.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's giving jetsu Holiday.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

To holiday.

[Moses Hacmon]

But SeaWorld is also.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

I think that's worse than Six Flags. That's giving these.

[Brooke]

Maybe she got arrested for animal abuse.

[Moses Hacmon]

They arrest her, but not anyone else that works there.

[Brooke]

She slapped one of the sea Sl.

[Trisha Paytas]

The se. Is crazy.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's what they call the police on.

[Brooke]

They probably sell alcohol if there's.

[Trisha Paytas]

They do. They have. I think one of their sponsors is Anheuser Bush the beer.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, I love that.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know that I used to go all the time and there was, like, a bush garden section.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, because you loved sea animals. I know. I do, too. I did love it. I did love it, too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And I remember that because there. I remember there was one spot where they had horses and beer randomly. And I remember wanting to see the horses, but everyone was drinking. I'm like, okay, well, I just think.

[Moses Hacmon]

I guess we've had this discussion before, and you guys disagree with me. I don't know about drinking at theme parks. Have we talked about that before?

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know if we.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Disneyland. Because I was like, I don't think you should be able to. Someone. Did someone get drunk? I don't know. Something happened, and I'm like, they shouldn't sell alcohol in theme parks around kids. Was like, my argument or something like that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Epcot or something.

[Moses Hacmon]

Maybe. Maybe that was it. Yeah. You have such a good memory. Oh, my God. You're like the opposite of me. Your memory is so good.

[Trisha Paytas]

This one I'm fuzzy on, but I do remember us talking about Epcot is.

[Moses Hacmon]

I think it might have been JoJo. I was gonna say that everything leads back to JoJo. Yes. And, like, in general, I just always think, like, you know, theme parks are half kids.

[Trisha Paytas]

At least Disneyland. It. Like, they're so, like, strict with security and stuff. So I would feel like, fine there.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And Epcot is. I have. I've never been to, like, Magic Kingdom, like, Florida one or whatever. Is Epcot like.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Yeah. Because there's, like, Animal Kingdom. It's like they're separate parks. Basically. You, like, drive to. So technically. Yeah, I guess that is. Yeah. It's not like you said Magic Kingdom.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And I'm sure they're like, the second. If anyone got not wasted, you know.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

They kick you out.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

But it's so easy to do as we see from, like, San Diego. You know what I mean? Like, it's like. I feel like people just get. And sometimes you don't know, obviously, if you're, like, swinging or something. But, like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

There's a Lot of parents that would normally go to places that sell alcohol, like, that's their thing is to be able to drink. Because they're like, that's so funny. That's what they do to deal with.

[Moses Hacmon]

No judgment. What to deal with is crazy. But maybe they're just enjoying themselves having a drink. Yeah. Specifically SeaWorld. Like you said, it's a concert. You're drinking. But I really want to know, like, a decent exposure, I think in public is like, you. You do something crazy. You flash the artist or something like that. I really. I wonder who else is on the schedule. Did we ever look to see who else is performing?

[Trisha Paytas]

The Ying Yang. Ying Yang Twins, I think. I mean, let me see if they have anyone out. It's the summer concert series, so I'm hoping it's coming to an end.

[Moses Hacmon]

That sounds kind of big, though. Like, summer concert series sounds like pretty epic.

[Trisha Paytas]

Fat Joe and Trina. Genuine.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's names. I mean, they're getting names.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yin Yang Twins. Oh, Soldier Boy and Bow Wow were earlier this summer.

[Moses Hacmon]

Wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love the 90s tour.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, that sounds fun. I would go to that. I would. That one sounds good.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Trina's the last one. One we can rest easy. Trina is the last.

[Moses Hacmon]

SeaWorld ended with a literal bang.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

Wow. Wow. SeaWorld. You sound dubious.

[Brooke]

Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

And I think we need to just halt it. I think they just need to. I don't understand why they can't just lock it up. Like, why can't, like, cops go and just chain a dead. They're evicting people all the time. Why can't they have Victor? Like, I don't understand it. So weird to me. Right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. It's so funny.

[Moses Hacmon]

Like, how is it not illegal? That's what I don't understand. You could just. Can I just house an orca whale here? I don't know. It's so weird to me.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would think you at least need some kind of license or something. But.

[Moses Hacmon]

But why don't they just stop that? Like, why. Who's giving the licenses?

[Trisha Paytas]

T. That is a good point. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

And then do they. I guess before they steal the whales basically out of the ocean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Some. Yeah. Especially when they were starting, they would take the. They would get them from the wild. They ended up having, like, breeding programs. So they weren't doing that at least as far as, like, I was have been alive. Like, when I was going. They were doing. They had a big breeding, like, and successful breeding program where they would, like, almost like IVF kind of tea like they would take the sperm from one whale. So they didn't even have to like mate. They would just inseminate the. The whales.

[Moses Hacmon]

How do you get the sperm?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think they would. If I'm remembering correctly, they would like have them come and then they would like roll on their backs like one of the little tricks. And they would like get it during the shows? No, during the shows. That was one of those.

[Moses Hacmon]

But like they are in the back and they have to do something to the whale.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think they would draw it out with like a needle or something. If I'm remembering correctly, they weren't jerking the whale. I just like I'm dead that you thought that. Well, they would extract it.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, but I mean you, that's how you give sperm.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, my bad. They were extracting the sperm via something, a needle.

[Moses Hacmon]

So why should they extract sperm from men? Why do the men have to do that?

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess cuz the penis on whale, it's like inside and then it like it comes out. But it is inside. Like it's not hanging out.

[Moses Hacmon]

Big one.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean dolphins, when that's how they drown people is their penises wrap around.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, it's giving Pedro Pascal Fantastic four bucket.

[Trisha Paytas]

Very. That.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's maybe that inspiration from that. Maybe I didn't know that about them.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's how they were like there's some dolphins that would drown people via penis.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, there was one oh my God. Video on YouTube.

[Moses Hacmon]

YouTube.com who filmed it and survived.

[Trisha Paytas]

There was one dolphin in Japan that was unknown. I'm not, I swear I'm not even kidding. Because a marine biologist covered this on her YouTube channel.

[Moses Hacmon]

Channel.

[Trisha Paytas]

And there was one.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well locked him away. Why is he out there? That's crazy. They're like, we know this but bring him to SeaWorld. Ah, right. Well, we don't necessarily want him like taking out innocent lives but because the trainers would probably just need a job too. We blame the corporate. The suits.

[Brooke]

Update. Social media mentioned the arrest was connected. Connected to the concert with one post suggesting the woman was detained for out of control twerking.

[Moses Hacmon]

Is that a fake? Is that real?

[Brooke]

No, this is like AI Google.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh the oh so like summary. Yeah, like disorderly conduct. She's just like shaking her butt uncontrollably. Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Allegedly.

[Moses Hacmon]

Allegedly. AI.

[Brooke]

Well we didn't say who either was.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my God.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

There was a, a like a viral AI but video of a whale attacking a trainer. Not a SeaWorld. But another part like yesterday. He knew how to cover it. He knew how to debunk it. He knew.

[Moses Hacmon]

Last story is this. They're going up the air. I wonder why.

[Trisha Paytas]

We have to. We have to clear this up before we head out.

[Moses Hacmon]

What do they say?

[Trisha Paytas]

They researched this viral video of a whale attacking a trainer. And then they.

[Moses Hacmon]

They look at the eye.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. They ended up researching and figured out they found the original videos. It was like composited to make it. They really did some journalism. Whoever the ME is over at E.

[Moses Hacmon]

News, whose platform is to know where's he going? Maybe we should hire him. If you want a job, if you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Were the one who covered this story, let us know. Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, I love a researcher like that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. They found the original videos that were composite. I was like, this is freaking journalism.

[Moses Hacmon]

That is amazing. I know. When people go so deep in that, it's like, wow, you're so good.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Finding the source that AI used to make it.

[Moses Hacmon]

But is it that exciting for E News?

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess it's a slow news week. We have Taylor and killer whales.

[Moses Hacmon]

What do they say about it? That can come in. Up next, we found the video. Like, what is that?

[Trisha Paytas]

It was on their website, but.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, it's digital.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

Why is digital's more popping than TV these days?

[Trisha Paytas]

Tv? Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

Because digital not be that. Yeah. Me just being like, it's not on tv, but who watches? I didn't even know VT still has a show. Do they still have more or E. Sorry, E News.

[Trisha Paytas]

The E News show is going away.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's the one.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Digital. Is the website sticking? So if they'll be there around to cover any more of your milestones.

[Moses Hacmon]

So that's gonna be.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. So the news article. Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

Catch me at 3:30 on the red carpet. Five hours before anyone else arrives.

[Trisha Paytas]

Will be there too. They'll be waiting for you.

[Moses Hacmon]

But do you think they'll be there like with a microphone?

[Trisha Paytas]

Ooh.

[Moses Hacmon]

Because they don't have a show.

[Trisha Paytas]

Damn. That is a good point. Will they still cover red carpets? Maybe I. Because they still post that like digitally. Maybe they will cover stuff just for digital. Like some carpets. That's a good question.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because sometimes for ET we cover carpets and stuff, even if it's just digital. But for the most part it's like the show and then we use whatever.

[Moses Hacmon]

You know, I figure out how to get there. I want to be with my microphone.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not as hard as you would think.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, I know. Just come in with my videographer over there. Moses on the iPhone.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, literally, some people are just like one man ban. A lot of people Are one one man bands actually like or one person bands?

[Moses Hacmon]

I love the little microphones people use too.

[Trisha Paytas]

And they're like, checking if the camera is recording and then they have their microphone. It's like a lot.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay, I love that.

[Trisha Paytas]

So you very well could be there. This is a journalism outfit. Like, it is giving journalism.

[Moses Hacmon]

I kind of feel that way. It's like a little blazer.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. And the bangs. Micro bangs.

[Moses Hacmon]

Wait, why the micro bang?

[Trisha Paytas]

It just gives journalism to me, really. I think it almost gives Courtney Cox and Scream.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay. With her bright.

[Trisha Paytas]

Gail is a journalist. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. She had the bright colors. The micro bangs are in.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sorry. Brooks are in.

[Moses Hacmon]

But everyone does love them. I see a lot of people have a micro bang. My forehead is huge. Like, if we had to go where the line is on my forehead, it'd be like, literally here. I was like, no, let's not. I know Gladys also a big forehead queen, but I was not trying to be too ugly. Once again, we all know when I'm ugly. I have a really bad podcast day.

[Trisha Paytas]

We.

[Moses Hacmon]

We looked at that in our review of our 230 episode on Patreon. I was just like, I think if I'm not looking cute, I am mean. Not trying to be in the mean air anymore. I'm in my sweet sweetheart, sweetheart, Taylor Swift era right here. Swifty. Life of a showgirl. I can't wait for the reveal of the album. I want to cosplay it. I'm so sad it's today. I know we're missing by hours.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Oh, my God. I didn't even process it until the this. The beginning that I'm like, oh, my God.

[Brooke]

Film your Patreon today.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, true.

[Moses Hacmon]

We don't usually go till.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, you're right. It's so. Because I'm. I'm sure it'll be like halfway through, so 4:30. Closer to 4.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, do a little stream.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I have to edit tonight. I'm edit that podcast. I have to cover it for E.T. so.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, oh, oh. So you are gonna do a little event tonight.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, event.

[Moses Hacmon]

Like a little sit down, let's watch it. Dinner.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm gonna like, what. What do you think my job is?

[Moses Hacmon]

You have to like. Because I think, like, you're. Oh, so like, okay. When you have to cover something, you have to watch it fully.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And then edit it. And then, like, you know, I was.

[Moses Hacmon]

Literally like, just find some clips on Tick Tock. You are the clips on Tick Tocks. That's fun. Oh, yeah. So wow. Okay. Well, we have to go then. What time is it? What time do you have to be there?

[Trisha Paytas]

It doesn't start till 4. I have to be home at 4.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh. So we couldn't cover anyways because maybe do a little. You could send Jimmy a little clip. Do a little insert of a B roll if anything big happens, like, hey, guys, breaking news.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, I don't know if anyone cares that, but like, I mean, I think, yes, by tomorrow, like, everyone will just know. I mean, what is there for us?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, we're giving E news. Like, wait 12 hours for us to cover it. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

What is there for us to add to the true?

[Moses Hacmon]

Maybe a lot. Maybe I'll go on Tick tock. Sometimes when I have something urgent to add, I will. I will jump on it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I want you to actually.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay. I was very excited about our Travis and Taylor clip a Tick Tock this morning. I was like, oh, we're so timely on this. We're so honest. You know, we could have been more on it yesterday. We're supposed to it yesterday, but yesterday was a show, and not in a bad way, but just. You know what? Yesterday was a good day. I was alive. Let me not be that person. It was not a show. I just had a drive into town, but it seemed like a long time. I was gone for like 14 hours yesterday, and I was like, oh, for your hair. For my hair. And it is a great job. But also, like, why does it take so long? Yeah, but I love him, so it's fine.

[Trisha Paytas]

You need her lipstick. I think she uses who's Taylor's?

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, that orange one?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

What was it?

[Trisha Paytas]

Some people said it's a rare beauty, and then other people said it is a Pat McGrath. Yes. Okay, thank you. I think that's the other one. I saw flooding because she uses a lot of Pat McGrath.

[Moses Hacmon]

Love it. I'm gonna get it. I have our rare beauty perfumes coming in too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Moses Hacmon]

I'll have a whole treat basket. I wanted it for today.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's so sweet.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, I got something cute online for you, and then I got a little the rare beauty coming.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God, that's so sweet. This is why I don't give.

[Moses Hacmon]

I'm bad giving presents for birthdays or Christmas because if I just see something, I just want to, like, give it, you know? You know, people like, let's save it for Christmas. But it's like Christmas is like, so far, you know? So let me write down. Oh, I don't have my phone.

[Brooke]

I was looking to see if there's any news about Taylor Swift's album. And then the only thing I found is like a page 6 Brianna Chicken Fry eviscerated by Swifties for insisting Taylor Swift's team is behind Life of a short grown leaf.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's our big fish. Our white whale. What did we call it? Big fat fatty dolphin. I don't know. Whatever it is.

[Brooke]

This one.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. Well, her in general.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

I thought I just came across something that was not just came across.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oscar was retweeting it yesterday. He was on that beat.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yep. I was like, let me.

[Brooke]

Sorry, I'm not on gay tweeter.

[Moses Hacmon]

Because of Oscar's retweet. I'm getting grouching for a little bit. Okay. Crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God, that is so funny.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, my gosh. I love when you get a little, like, blushy.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's funny.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's so cute. Can I just tell you real quick? Sorry to like, whatever, but this is a 70 calorie drink. What is Starbucks? It's ice cream tea with a splash of lemon and no water.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's so good too. And it's only 70 calories.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Green tea is always like super low calories. That makes sense.

[Moses Hacmon]

Sense. Is it a lot of caffeine?

[Trisha Paytas]

Not a lot, but there's a little.

[Brooke]

Bit, like, more than regular tea.

[Moses Hacmon]

But because my I tea latte, the small one, was like 170 calories. This is a big drink and you get it for 70 calories.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I love a green tea.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. If you get it without the lemonade, it's actually zero calories.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Even less. I thought Maybe it was 10, but zero. Even zero is amazing.

[Moses Hacmon]

What do you mean it's zero calories?

[Brooke]

Just water.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, but what makes green tea?

[Brooke]

The leaf. The. The. There's no sugar or nothing. Yeah. Just the chemicals from the leaf of the tea.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's so iconic. That's so cool because we always get Starbucks with the glam. I was like, oh, it's like calories I don't need. And then I was like, oh, my God. There's a 70. Zero calorie iced black tea too. Was zero calories.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. See, if you. You use a little mio. If you add a little.

[Moses Hacmon]

What is that? Oh, she loves a mio. She had. She had the just dressing and her TikTok and shows. Here's. Now she's putting little Easter eggs for you because she knows you watched all the way through. Oh, I'm gonna tell Oscar in my next TikTok what this is. I was like, okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Can I tell you, I was texting Jimmy about Lena Talk last night. I was like, did you see Lena's new TikTok? It's like, I can't wait to finish editing Patreon. I'm gonna get caught up. I need a binge. He's like, lena talk is my love island. He's so every day.

[Moses Hacmon]

She had two. She had a couple yesterday cuz she.

[Trisha Paytas]

Said her phone overheated.

[Moses Hacmon]

I always think you're like joking and.

[Trisha Paytas]

Then I'm like, I've seen it for Atlanta Talk. My algorithm. Yes. Okay. It's like the. You're gonna be your inflicting mammy and then let it talk and then show me all the triplets.

[Moses Hacmon]

I love that fur. I need to start reposting because she does get pretty good views. The first one about like 11000 money. I should start reposting for her.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love Elena. She has her haul. She went to McDonald's. She got the. The hello Kitty ninja turtle meal.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, she was on it. Yes. Oh my God. You were on it. It was so fast. She was so excited about it. I know her birthday's this Thursday. And I was like, where do you want to go? And then she's like telling me where she wants to go or something like that. And then I was like, we can even do a tick tock together.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow, that's a big guy for her. Big booking.

[Moses Hacmon]

My mom is actually very sweet. She like when she's here, she made muffins with like Malibu. Like there's so many like tick tockable things that she does when she's here. And she's always very like. I think she thinks she doesn't want to be that person. But I'm like, mom, you can make a tick tock. You know, especially the day with Malbout. She brought her like glasses to wear. Like these cute cake glasses. And she. They sound like my mom talks to Malibu as if she's making a TikTok. Which I guess is just like how she talks.

[Brooke]

But I thought she was filming.

[Moses Hacmon]

Did you think that? Okay, now let's do this.

[Brooke]

And it's like I was outside the kitchen, I was like, where is like she's presenting it the way that you would present it to a camera.

[Moses Hacmon]

Because she's just having fun with her. Because I was like, I think she.

[Brooke]

Was using her phone for the recipe. So.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Cuz she's like, no, I didn't. And I was like, oh, you should have like that's kind of cute because it was Like a whole thing she planned for her or something like that. But yeah, but then I was like, I always have to tell her, like, oh, you should use your TikTok. Cause she tries to be respectful. Queen over here.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Moses Hacmon]

Sweet. Yeah, it's really funny. She really loves it. We love Lana talk. Follow her at Lenapetis. That her name Lenapetis on TikTok?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think so. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

I love that she went back to Paytas. That's my favorite part about my mom is that she. She was married after my dad. Her maiden name is not Paytas, obviously. And she was married, you know, a couple times after and she went back to Paytas and not her maiden name. Like, love that. So we are the Paytas.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's so iconic.

[Moses Hacmon]

And my poor sister, everyone thinks she's Callie Paytas. Everyone's like, oh, Callie Paytas. When she comes in here, it says Cali Paytas. I was like, okay, that's fine.

[Trisha Paytas]

I just refer to her as Cal Gator.

[Moses Hacmon]

And that's how we all do. Yes. I love. I love that you watch. Well, she's gonna put an Easter egg shed for you somewhere.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's everything.

[Moses Hacmon]

So I'm gonna talk to Oscar through my TikTok.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, now I can really be seated. I feel like this is Taylor Swift.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Thanksgiving Taylor.

[Moses Hacmon]

I get a little taken aback if, like, someone I watch mentions me. I'm always like, oh, my God. Like, they mentioned. You know who did? It's just like Inception at this point. So, I mean, I know we're just going back and forth, but Saray. I said, sarai. It's Saray. Oh, yes. And she was like, oh, my God, just watch me. Like, oh, my God, I love you. And it's like, yeah, when. When someone. Because I watch all her, like, truly. I watch all her tick tocks. And I was like, oh, my God. Like, I saw us. And I was like, ah, we're talking on just dress. And I was like, ah. And I said, sarai. I honestly, I knew Crazy Ray Ray should be even Saray, but Saray, I really love you. Just again, like, she's amazing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Now that you mentioned it. Like, when I watch other people and then they reference us, I do get a little like, oh, jump scare. Like, Dennis Penn had us in one of her videos. Oh.

[Moses Hacmon]

And I was like, how come we didn't say that? That's big news.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was a while. It was like when she did. When people thought she was on Survivor, she did like a. Oh, right. Yes, she did a montage of people speculating she was on Survivor and we were in there speculating. She was on Survivor.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

I got stuff. It's like, yeah, okay, Queen.

[Moses Hacmon]

Is this about me? I. I love it. I always gasp when people would mention me. I'm like, no one really does. I guess that's why. Because no one really does. Yeah. You know, whatever part of anyone's routine or anything. Like watching just Trish.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I think some, like Vanilla Maze. I think everyone was just, like, asked her to look at it and she did. She's like, cute. I'm like, love. Great love that you're giving.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Like, I love Vanilla Maze.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love Vanilla Matt.

[Moses Hacmon]

Love. I love her hair. Yeah. Actually, you know who gives it is Elvis. She gives vanilla Mace.

[Trisha Paytas]

Remember when it was like a Hassan stream he mentioned? He. What was it? It was like him reacting to us, reacting to him.

[Moses Hacmon]

It was like, yes, that is crazy. When people react to someone reacting to their react. Don't tell the Fine brothers we're about to get sued. Watch us react to the Fine brothers reaction. Lawsuit on Patreon. Their apology for. I even told Tana about it the other day. I was like, do you remember? She had, like, screamed it. She knew right away. She goes, yes. When they try to trademark and I had to explain the whole apology lore to her. I was like, you need to watch their apology because they were pissed at us. I'm like, excuse me. What? Like, you guys just don't get it. We're trying to help people. Like, okay. By suing them. They were crazy. That was one of the worst apology videos I've ever seen. That's just stupid. But, you know, love them, hope they're well. You think they, like, saved all their money? Because it's like, where do they go?

[Trisha Paytas]

I do wonder that a lot too.

[Moses Hacmon]

They must have just saved money, invested, like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And I feel like a lot of people who leave, like YouTube do like, other production, like, things in the industry, but more like on the back side, like, they either, like, are involved with like a management company or like a production company, something like that. So they. I feel like that's a. It's kind of easy, quote unquote, easy to like, go. Because that's a lot of experience that, like, is valuable. So it is kind of. If you can parlay it into, like, a lot of other industry things, basically. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

I would love to know. There's so many where they now that I want to know. Like you said, they are talented and they're good and, like, what did you do?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, like, I Still follow Alex Ernst from formerly the Vlog Squad. And yeah, he just has a very. He still gets a lot of engagement, like on Twitter and stuff.

[Moses Hacmon]

On TikTok.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. But I think. Is he working real estate? He has, like, a normal job, I think, right.

[Moses Hacmon]

Because he was coming for people being like, yeah, just get a normal job. Like, you know. So he had a bunny. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

And he loved that bunny.

[Moses Hacmon]

He was so sweet with it. It was in the corner of the apartment. I remember.

[Trisha Paytas]

I remember when I interviewed David Dobrik, I asked him, I was like, why are you so mean to that bunny? I think that was one of my.

[Moses Hacmon]

Was David mean to the bunny?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think he prank where he said the bunny was missing or something. It was something like that.

[Moses Hacmon]

Why didn't people come for him for that?

[Trisha Paytas]

Because he was just America's sweetheart at the time.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's wild. He literally was like, I'm gonna take my friend's bunny and make him feel like. Like, that's like kidnapping prank for a child. Like, what do you mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Love that bunny.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's so weird. I'll never forget. I know I always talked about before, but that one YouTuber that asked me, he's like a prankster, and he's like, to, like, do a prank. And it wasn't even, like, on us. It was like, just a random person where, like, they were gonna watch the baby and I was gonna take the baby as if it was, like, kidnapped or something. Like, we're gonna have, like, a babysitter watch it and then, like, take the baby away and act, like, make babysitter things, like, she lost the baby. I was like, that's the craziest thing I've ever heard and the stupidest. And then he, like, hosted the stream. He's the next year.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was like, okay, I forgot about that.

[Moses Hacmon]

That was so weird. And it was my first baby, and we just had her, like, a month and. What do you mean, I'm gonna give you my month old baby. You're not lost, you know, you're not like a TV show where I'm like, oh, that's kind of cool, I guess. But even then, when they give really tiny babies, I'm always like, whose baby is that?

[Trisha Paytas]

Thinking about that for Fantastic Four. Because it's like a lot of scenes with a baby. And they said. Said they. I guess they must have done CGI on some of the facial shots, but they said they used a real baby for all the scenes. And I thought that was wild.

[Moses Hacmon]

That is why it must be just someone working on the production already or something? Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Or do people. Cat. I don't know, like, do babies audition? I have no idea.

[Moses Hacmon]

Someone's like, I need your two month old baby. I'm like, no.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Brooke]

People in the project that wants to have their baby in, you know, they want to do.

[Trisha Paytas]

The baby has to get paid, right?

[Brooke]

Yeah, somebody is getting paid. Usually they have more than one baby. Usually they have, have, oh, a rotation of a few babies.

[Trisha Paytas]

Ashley Vibes.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, the twins. That's it. You gotta put them in the showbiz. For sure. I did see a scene, I think it was on Tick Tock. Fantastic Four. Does the baby. Spoiler alert. Revive.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's cool.

[Moses Hacmon]

I was like, wow, how did that do that?

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. Well, was that the power?

[Moses Hacmon]

Was that the superpower?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Like the baby is like the most powerful being in comics or whatever. It's a whole thing ever. But there was one scene, like in Fantastic Four after that the baby collapsed. And then someone asked the director, like, how to. Did you get the baby to clap? Like, did you have to CGI that? He said, no. Like, he just did that. And we're like, wow. We have the shot. The baby just. I guess the baby's an actor.

[Moses Hacmon]

Elvis definitely can clap. She left on cue.

[Trisha Paytas]

Or oh, wow.

[Moses Hacmon]

You know how you get is like if you're happy and you know it, clap your hand. They do that. And she also loves to applause. So I feel like, yay. She goes like, yay. Like babies, I think inherently know how to clap things.

[Brooke]

Baby do.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, so our baby's also. I guess that baby is not that good.

[Moses Hacmon]

Our baby can also do that actually. So I don't know if every baby can. I just know Elvis loves to clap. She is a copper. I don't know the age difference, but true.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know how old that baby boy is. I mean, the baby came out looking. It was like one of those where, you know, they look big. Yes, yes, yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

As. Yeah, they should. Although sometimes they do look like a freaking like one week old baby. And I'm like, I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

And it's weird because the face was very much cgi. Like some shots were a little wonky wonky with the CGI baby. But yeah, they said it was a real baby the whole time.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, Renesmee.

[Trisha Paytas]

Some. Some people said it was giving Renesmee in some shots. I mean, CGI baby is just like when everything else is real, it is gonna just stand out.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. So with the face with cgi said.

[Trisha Paytas]

Some shots, I guess when they needed a Certain reaction.

[Moses Hacmon]

Interview that baby.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. I have a lot of questions.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, that is my tick tock AI babies. I think I said that before. My whole thing is just like them interviewing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yes, you did mention I still.

[Moses Hacmon]

Send to Moses all the time. They're kind of getting cuter now. Now they're like out of the hospital.

[Trisha Paytas]

Your platform is supposed to be go to hell.

[Moses Hacmon]

But is that okay? I feel like that's fine. No. Okay. They're so cute though. They look like. Like it looks like our baby. Like, it looks like Aquaman looks like those AI babies. I was like, that looks so real. It's actually kind of crazy. I love when they have them talk and stuff. So cute. Okay, you're right. Go to hell AI users. Although. But like you said, you googled something and AI just pops up.

[Trisha Paytas]

I didn't ask for it, just in different types of generative AI.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay, what does that mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Is that the baby's like it just. You put a prompt in this baby interviewing another baby asking this question, and then it creates.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, these were already created.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, someone. Yes. You didn't create it at least, but right.

[Moses Hacmon]

To me, it's like a Louis Vuitton bag. If you're going vegan, it's like, well, someone already made it, so the cow's already dead, you know? Okay, so if I get it like secondhand. I didn't buy it. It's already dead.

[Brooke]

But I think the bigger one is more like all the countries now they're in a race to who are going to have the strongest and best AI and they're using amounts of energy and water. That is insane.

[Moses Hacmon]

Like, that's so crazy. But I guess I don't.

[Brooke]

There's not enough energy for them to get to the level they want to get to.

[Moses Hacmon]

Wait for. What was that? What was that?

[Brooke]

AI they want to create like, let's say like a super computer. You know, like the smartest AI that will give you answers to.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, we don't need to do all that. That. Who's doing this? Who is doing that?

[Brooke]

Everyone. Like, Like China and America are like in a race to have.

[Trisha Paytas]

But who.

[Moses Hacmon]

The department of what? Like, who do we stop?

[Brooke]

Well, here we have a few. We have Sam Altman, like, open an eye. Oh, you know, we have Elon Musk with his AI. Like, there. There's a few.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, no.

[Brooke]

And then in China, it's just the government. They're doing that.

[Moses Hacmon]

No one can stop them.

[Brooke]

And then. And I'm sure other countries too. From Russia.

[Moses Hacmon]

I've never Heard that name. Do you know him?

[Brooke]

Open. Open. AI. He's right. I see the one with doesn't have the company. Open. AI.

[Trisha Paytas]

I see the one with something. He wanted to give his money to all his kids or something.

[Brooke]

It doesn't sound like him didn't want to. No, he's the opposite. Like, they started as a company that was non profit, and then suddenly they became for profit. Oh, so they're not really good.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's how it goes down.

[Trisha Paytas]

You can stop them?

[Moses Hacmon]

I wish. How? Tell me. I don't know how to spell. Do a spell. Maybe you'll like, give me my bandage back. I'm healed.

[Brooke]

Maybe you'll write a prompt that's so insane that it will drive their computer.

[Moses Hacmon]

I tell you, don't even put it on me because I Sometimes I've done spell work that are so powerful I feel like I could get arrested. Can they still arrest witches?

[Trisha Paytas]

Can they really do.

[Moses Hacmon]

Can you get arrested for witchcraft?

[Brooke]

Oh, we're heading that way.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's what I'm saying. I kind of get scared sometimes. Like, maybe I should put my spell book away. I have a little spell book that I made my own spells. And I'm like, maybe. And I'd suffer for bad, of course. But it's like, what if I get like arrested for witchcraft?

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, they would have to prove you guilty of.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, I look at my spell book and see what happened. I. I really do. It works on so many things. And again, all good stuff. But. But now you said that I'm like, if something happens, you know what, AI, they're gonna come for me.

[Brooke]

I want to be the. When they're investigating, like, we suspect it was a spell.

[Moses Hacmon]

You know, sometimes that's the only way to explain something. If AI just stopped, tomorrow people are going to come for me. They'll be like, well, they talked about it on the podcast, like it's no coincidence, you know, should do it in.

[Brooke]

A ASMR format video.

[Moses Hacmon]

So, no, I don't want to give them evidence. Like, if that one day happens, I'm not doing my spell work for that. But I use my spells wisely. It's very, you know, nothing crazy. And I started incorporating Parmesan cheese shredded into my spells because you know how you're supposed to use, like, elements of the earth and stuff, but the Parmesan makes a difference. However, I'd have to take it out at night because we don't want to get the mice. They don't come into the house. But one time I heard a little Critter. But it was not getting the cheese. I think it died in the vent. We smelled it and I was like, ah, we didn't kill it. I don't know. Never mind.

[Brooke]

Either way, I'm the one that had to go to the attic and get it.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sometimes they just naturally, you know, die.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I don't.

[Moses Hacmon]

I don't know.

[Brooke]

There's a lot of wildlife here.

[Moses Hacmon]

There is wildlife. I know. I feel like people forget we live in the mountains. I have to remind people all the time, like, you know, no.

[Brooke]

We were sitting, eating breakfast with her dad and looking out the window and there was a coyote. Like, right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Neighborhood. There's coyotes.

[Moses Hacmon]

No way.

[Brooke]

Just on the street. All over la. Yeah, all over la. The scarecrow in the street.

[Moses Hacmon]

In the middle.

[Trisha Paytas]

In the middle of the day. My mom had to take.

[Moses Hacmon]

Where'd it come from?

[Trisha Paytas]

She. I guess just the hills, I guess, because they. I mean, this is so in the weeds. But, you know, habitat loss and stuff makes them come out more. And that's why they come and, like, prey on people's pets, like cats and.

[Brooke]

Dogs, because they know there's pets. They.

[Moses Hacmon]

That. That part sad, because I like how it is. They're pretty, like, sweet. But that part about the dogs is sad. I know, but it's also like, in their nature. I mean, there are wild animals. They have to. Is that like the food. The circle of, like, the food chain? It's sad.

[Trisha Paytas]

It is sad. It's very, very. Hacks with the coyotes.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, my God, that's so weird you said that because I was just asking you, why did they show the coyotes at the beginning? What was the. What was the full circle moment for that? They never went back to the coyotes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Remember? It was like her moment where, like, her come to moment when she was, like, alone in the house and her dog, she couldn't find one of the dogs. And then she saw on her security camera, I was about to get eaten by a coyote. And then she realized, oh, my God, like, I'm alone in this big house. And then she didn't want to have that life anymore. Anymore.

[Moses Hacmon]

Really? That was the reason of the coyotes?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, it was a big, like, come.

[Moses Hacmon]

To moment because she was, like, dreaming about them at the beginning.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. It was like an omen.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's so funny. That's so random. The way they made it seem was like, way, like more deeper and spiritual than that.

[Trisha Paytas]

But, okay, it was the come to Jesus moment. Like, she. She can't, you know, just look out for herself and Just only want her ambition of being, like, you know, the biggest late night host. Like, she still needs to have, like, love and people in her life that she cares about.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay, why? But why did the coyote remind her of that?

[Trisha Paytas]

Because the coyote, like, she didn't have.

[Brooke]

She was like, alone.

[Trisha Paytas]

The big house.

[Brooke]

Yeah, that's like the threat that's out.

[Trisha Paytas]

There and she had no one to help her.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, I mean, that's a good lesson. Yes, I like it. Not her fault she's alone. Why is it maybe she don't want a man?

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, she ice. No, not just a man. Remember she was mean to all her employees and stuff. She's also like the little gay one to go get the bear urine from, like, somewhere crazy.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

Do you know who that is? The actor that plays from Ugly Betty. Oh, I was thinking from Sweet Life of Zack and Cody.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

Without my flaws, that would be boss.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

I love that. The floss one is so good. He was so good. He played Sharpe in the High School musical Suit Life Inside Cody.

[Trisha Paytas]

I forgot he was like the director for the musical or something.

[Moses Hacmon]

Maybe he was Ryan. No, he definitely did.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, I think he was the Ryan.

[Moses Hacmon]

Why do I want to feel like he was Sharpay?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, no, I think Ashley Tisdale was.

[Moses Hacmon]

No London with Sharpay. And then she couldn't sing, so then Ashley Tisdale had to be.

[Trisha Paytas]

She goes, but everyone says I look like Sharpay.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, yeah. She's like. Everyone says I look just like her. Okay, that was a good show.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that you remember that. But not your Wednesday cosplay.

[Moses Hacmon]

I will not miss a sweet life. You know, what can I say? I actually didn't even really watch the show as a kid. I see a lot of clips. Like, Justin Baldoni was on it. Like, I see a lot of clips on TikTok. Oh, yeah. That he was like, was sharp or what's her name? Maddie.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maddie.

[Moses Hacmon]

He was Maddie's, like, love interest. Actually, both of them liked him. I think. I was watching clips. I watched a lot of clips. My TikTok is also shows that just show me, like, the full episodes in the entire. Yeah, because I never really watched Sweet Life. You're also giving Dylan Sprouse right now.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, Riverdale, maybe that's Cole, but yeah, I'll take. Yeah, sure.

[Moses Hacmon]

God, how confusing is it to be a twin? That's hard.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yellow triplets. Now that has to be hard.

[Moses Hacmon]

Triplets is crazy. They should definitely thank their mother because I can never have triplets. That's insane. Like, what do you Mean, you have to take care of three babies on different schedules. Diapers, feeding.

[Trisha Paytas]

True.

[Moses Hacmon]

You have to have help at that point.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Am I having triplets at night?

[Trisha Paytas]

Gotta interview those triplets. What was it like?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yes. Dirty yellow triplets.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think we could all.

[Moses Hacmon]

They all have to fit on here. That is. I know I wanted Tana Mokoa on. I'm like, can you spit in the chair together?

[Trisha Paytas]

They easily could.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. For sure. For sure. That'd be cute. I would love that. Triplet's probably good too.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think they could too. They're pretty.

[Moses Hacmon]

What did we watch? I think watched the Jake and Johnny one we were reacting to. And I was like, oh my God. They both sat on there. Felt bad. I was like, oh my God. Pretty impressive, honestly. But you more people could fit on this than you think. I think you and I could fit on this together.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's bigger than it looks. I think it's like sprawl bigger than it looks. Yeah. But I think you could like push on all.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Remember when. Oh yeah. When Jeff. It. It was like Jeff in your chair.

[Moses Hacmon]

Me and Tana did fit.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

Jeff was with Tana. And then just like.

[Moses Hacmon]

I want to use your microphone. Just sit my seat.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think you use your microphone.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, Love that. I would love to swap with Jeff again. If he does that, I can't go down with Hollywood. I love. I would love Jeff on. Because I have so many questions to ask him.

[Trisha Paytas]

I gotta get him before he moves to New York. I guess he's already in the Logan Paul wedding. Oh, I don't know.

[Moses Hacmon]

Allegedly.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

In Italy. Everyone's in Italy. Sardinia is the place. Everyone. Not Logan Paul. But she has a hair salon. I was like, I just came back for Sardinia. Yeah. It's like, my God. Boosh. Someone else. What's the other one? There's another like Carpetilla.

[Trisha Paytas]

I have no idea either.

[Moses Hacmon]

I felt so not altered at the salon yesterday. I was like, I did not go anywhere. Like, where are you going on vacation? I was like, my pool. Not even my pool. Where do we go on vacation? We go staycation. Yeah. We go downstairs and order breads. We don't go to bread anymore.

[Brooke]

We like hotels here in California. We like to go up and down the coast.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, that's true. But we haven't even done that in a while. Well, anyways, doesn't matter. We like to save money when our money saving. Yeah. Or not spending money. Era, I guess.

[Trisha Paytas]

Except the Louis Vuitton. But you need. Wow.

[Moses Hacmon]

That was. Yeah, that was mental health.

[Trisha Paytas]

You did.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's true. I don't know if that worked, though.

[Brooke]

I don't think it helped. I think it was part of it.

[Moses Hacmon]

Would love if it cured me and I'd be like, yes. You know, temporarily, when I buy it. It does. But then when I get it, I'm kind of like. Like, I'm not gonna.

[Trisha Paytas]

But maybe. What about those days, like, where you wait for it to arrive? Are you, like, excited?

[Moses Hacmon]

No, I get a little anxious because I think Mo's gonna see the inside of the box. It's worn.

[Brooke]

Sometimes she forgets, and sometimes she forgets, like, you know, buying it is the moment and that's it.

[Moses Hacmon]

You know what it is? Sometimes if we miss the signature, it sends it back and I'll get, like, a little thing like, oh, you got refunded. I was like, oh, I didn't know I bought that. But, like, thank God, you know, because I sometimes do go a little crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is so funny.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's why I think secretly Moses never lets the FedEx guy in.

[Trisha Paytas]

He sees his signature. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

I'm like, we can't keep missing this. I need this package. It happens more often than you think.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Moses Hacmon]

I like the hot dog. The bling. Hot dog.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah. The rip. The bling.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. I was excited for that one. I really did want that. But I guess it wasn't meant to be because it didn't get delivered on time. They just send it back, so got a refund shout out to the companies that just refund automatically when they get it back. They just assume you don't want it. Bold of you to assume. Send it again. That's crazy. I guess they just think, yeah, that's so weird. Wouldn't they know, though, if you didn't open it, that you're not trying to return it? You know, because I never opened the box. It just gets sent back to them.

[Trisha Paytas]

True.

[Moses Hacmon]

So weird. They sent it back to me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe it's just easier for them to just return it and then you buy it again, then try to send it back. Well, usually FedEx. No. Doesn't it give you, like, two, three days? Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Three attempts and we missed it.

[Trisha Paytas]

All three Miss.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yes. It happens a lot.

[Brooke]

No, but there was something odd about that one, though.

[Moses Hacmon]

It happened a couple times.

[Brooke]

Do you remember it was a different driver anyway. Nobody cares about that.

[Moses Hacmon]

They do.

[Brooke]

You remember there was a different driver, it needed the signature, and she just left it on top of the thing. She didn't even.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, hot dog.

[Brooke]

There was something, because I think it just Was not their normal driver for a little period of time. So things were.

[Moses Hacmon]

One of our drivers, like, would not ever think was like, a fan. Was like, congrats on Aquaman.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was like, love that.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe he saw your billboard.

[Moses Hacmon]

I guess he knew my name was Trisha. Yeah. Oh, he said his daughter.

[Brooke]

His daughter is a fan.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, he said that?

[Brooke]

That.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, that's okay. That makes more sense. I thought. I didn't know he said that part. I thought he's just like, congrats. It's like, okay, we love it. I love it. You look like Aquaman too. The. Oh, this is good. Oh, Aquaman. Yes. You're giving that Aquaman.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, just because the blonde.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, with. With this, though. Hold this. You'll be Aquaman. Don't forget these. These actually look like good cakes.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. I'm excited.

[Moses Hacmon]

Me too.

[Trisha Paytas]

I. I forgot for context too. I. I have my little lanyard because Julia Gardner has the lanyard in the. Oh, yeah. So I didn't forget to take my badge off. I.

[Moses Hacmon]

Wait, what is that for your work.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was my work badge. Yeah. I realized I didn't want it to be like an Oppenheimer thing or people thought it just like you are giving.

[Moses Hacmon]

Like, this is your everyday outfit.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. I need to clarify. Everything beside the band aid is for real, but everything else is.

[Moses Hacmon]

I thought the bandaid was part of your costume too. Like, you guys have a band aid. I was like, yeah, just a regular one. And then you're like, I cut myself. I was like, oh, okay. I'm like, are you okay? I like the band aids on the figure. It's giving Seymour from the horse.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it fits the vibe.

[Moses Hacmon]

Spoilers are coming. Spoilers are coming. Get out now. Spoiler alert. Spoiler warning. Life emulating art.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Tea. Very though Method.

[Moses Hacmon]

I'm very method. Me too. I just realized I'm a witch too. I was like, wow, that's crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah. Tea.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's crazy. Any witch work spellwork needs. Needs children. I don't think that needs that. I think she's bullish. I don't think any real Wiccan is like, sacrificing children, you know, because that's just not the code of the Wiccan way. They don't want anything bad, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. See, even Zach Kreger can discuss that when you work on the pre.

[Moses Hacmon]

I would love to discuss it because I think called karma that which is believe in. And we're not trying to get Carmack bad energy because I guess she was sucking the Souls out of these children. Like she also get some bad in the witch world, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Spoilers are coming.

[Moses Hacmon]

Poor Jimmy. I didn't even think about Jimmy having to hear the spoiler. I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Me either.

[Moses Hacmon]

Damn.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then he's like, oh, I was sick. So I'm behind on movies. I'm like, oh, in my defense, Jimmy barely goes to the movies.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, it's only in theaters. You can't stream it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Theaters? Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's crazy. I love movies. It's like my favorite thing actually since we went to the movies last week. I like can't stop thinking about it. The popcorn was so good.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love the movies.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's just a fun vibe. The chairs, the coziness. Like we were taking selfies. Like it's just. Just fun.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's fun. It's a fun time at the movie if you go to a good theater. I guess. Cuz the last time I went was the vibes were little.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh yeah. Are you going back?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I'm going back to the scene of the crime. I don't care if I have to fight another middle aged man.

[Moses Hacmon]

You guys go separate to that one. I don't think people will remember. Honestly.

[Brooke]

Just go like this.

[Trisha Paytas]

True.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh yeah. In disguise. That be so good. I mean, granted we haven't been back to Masters Malibu since I had a. You know what I mean? No, like a year and a half ago. It was two birthdays ago. Yeah, and I. I wasn't your fault.

[Trisha Paytas]

You were the victim there.

[Moses Hacmon]

I know, but I cried and that was weird. Like, why are you crying? You just got a little cream on your arm.

[Brooke]

It was pretty serious.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yes, I know, but I didn't cry and leave. I think I like cried and left. I was like, I need to go.

[Trisha Paytas]

But you didn't yell at anybody.

[Brooke]

No, no, the opposite. She. She was like. She acted like she did something wrong.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

Instead of.

[Moses Hacmon]

That was me yesterday. My little boo boo drowned in my latte. I was apologizing. Did you see it? Did you see it? Oh my God. And I kept apologizing because I was just like, I'm so sorry. I like was making a mess in the salon. They were waiting for me to be finished. They're probably this way. It's taking eight hours. How do people get them to float? Mine all sank right away. I was so sad.

[Brooke]

You have to train them.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, I'm so excited because I literally typed in the boo boo in like the. The. The food delivery app and it came out to the boob latte. I was so excited. I Was like, I'm gonna do this. Gonna be so cute. I couldn't get a picture cuz it, like, fell so quickly. I don't know how people are doing it, but y' all are the real witches, honestly, because how are you floating? Then we looked up some. It looked like they were kind of, like, on, like, they put on top of the cup. So it doesn't, like, sink.

[Brooke]

But what is it made out of? What, the labu. I'm just. Mine was like, jelly.

[Moses Hacmon]

Maybe it was a little heavier than the other ones. The other one's, like, a little more foamy. Maybe mine was like a jelly.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would have assumed it would have floated too, if I were you.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay, thank you. Because I tried it and then I was like, ah. I went down. But luckily there was two, so I had a second one I could try. And then I put that in, and then also. But then it made the cup overflow. And I was so embarrassed that the salon is so beautiful and clean. It's like in Beverly Hills. I was like, I'm so. It's on the white marble stain. I'm like, I'm so sorry. I just. I have to apologize at all times because I'm usually always sorry, even when I'm not Matt Rife. You should be sorry. I just don't understand how people can't apologize. We talked about this before, but I was like, when people, like, literally can't apologize, like, even to, like, save face, like, just. Just apologize.

[Trisha Paytas]

Tell me about it.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Yes. Yes. Go off King.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Moses Hacmon]

Or not. How do you feel sometimes when I sleep on things, are you, like, less annoyed? I mean, I was, like, annoyed, but.

[Trisha Paytas]

Also, like, I'm less annoyed, but I'm still prepared.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay. Love that. As you should be.

[Trisha Paytas]

Should we go to that right now, or do we.

[Moses Hacmon]

Or do we have more or whatever?

[Trisha Paytas]

I have one small one. This was another Jimmy submission as well. I love, you know, the Tick Tocker Sylvanian drama. You know, a calico critter. Those little. Little critters. Like a little bunny and the little cat and stuff.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay. Yes.

[Brooke]

Barnes and Noble. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, yes. Yes. It sounded familiar. I was like, wait, that does sound familiar.

[Trisha Paytas]

Have you seen the. I'm gonna ask Moses this, because I'm assuming he didn't, but the little sketches on Tick Tock, where it's like the little. Yes. Okay. So it's like this Tick Tocker has, like, little skit, and they're like. It's almost like adult soap operas, I guess it's like one Calico Critter will, like, shoot another one or something. And one has its ear missing. Whatever. Anyway, it's called Sylvanian Drama, this Tiktoker account. And it's kind of what, like, it may. It's what made me want to get a Calico Critter. Like, it's been around for a couple years and a really popular TikTok account. But the creators of Calico Critters filed a lawsuit against this Tiktoker. Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, because he's like. Like, well, yes, I would, too. Is he like. He's cutting your ear off.

[Brooke]

They're like.

[Trisha Paytas]

They're just doing little skits.

[Moses Hacmon]

But that's, like rooting the brand. It's, like, for little kids. And, like, these little kids are gonna, like, now watch these Tick Tocks and be scared of it. It's giving Jason Momoa playing a villain when he should just be Aquaman. You know what I mean? It's like, you don't want to be scared of little kids. That's, like, growing against the brand. Love Jason Momoa, but you know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

But I don't think little kids are.

[Brooke]

Necessarily watching the videos. I mean, look at what Oscar did to his Labubu.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, but Labubus are not for kids. Like. Like, Calico Critters are in the kids section of Barnes and Noble.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I don't. This Tick Tocker isn't, like, in the. On the.

[Moses Hacmon]

Mal will find it. She scrolls and she'll find these things. She's not on tick tock, like, YouTube shorts. And I'm always like, what is she watching? And she thinks it's like a little kids thing because she'll see the toys. But there's some crazy things on there, too. But on YouTube kids on top of that. Before you tell me, censor.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, no. I've seen crazy stuff on YouTube. Kids too. Like, crazy thumbnails and stuff. Yeah, but this creator, is he just on Tick Tock? Yes. Are you sure it's not YouTube shorts, reels, but.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, there you go.

[Trisha Paytas]

But not in the kids section. Like, it's marketed towards, like, old, like, teens, young adults.

[Moses Hacmon]

What is marketed towards them?

[Trisha Paytas]

Sylvain, Like Sylvanian drama, the Tick Tock.

[Moses Hacmon]

Like, but the Calico Critters are for the children.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, in general.

[Brooke]

But once you buy something, don't you have the right to do whatever you want to it?

[Moses Hacmon]

Look, it is crazy that there would be suing, like, a thing. The only thing I think of is, like, Teletubbies too. Like, for kids. Right. And I've seen, like, girls, like, sexualized Teletubbies. It's like. Yeah. It's not like the worst thing in the world, but maybe, like, it is for kids. I don't know. I'm kind of. I'm kind of torn on it. Yeah, you guys are very not. You guys are very.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm very pro Sylvanian drama, because I love that.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay, well, you love. A little biased.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Oh, I'm very biased. I love those little. And Jimmy also is on the side of Sylvanian drama and the Internet in general is very much on. So you're on the wrong side of the Internet.

[Moses Hacmon]

I know. I had a feeling. I was trying to. Yeah, I get it, though. Most of the time I'd be like, oh, my God, that's crazy. Like, fine brothers react. You know, I get it. But also, too. Yeah. When it's like a big corporation trying to sue, like, you know, just like a creator. You could just be like, don't do that. Stop doing it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Because for her adult themed skits using the wholesome figurines, that was kind of like the basis of the. The lawsuit they said it caught it was causing irreparable injury to the brand's goodwill and reputation by. By creating and sharing content featuring calico critters without authorization.

[Moses Hacmon]

Is it gruesome? Is it violent, or is it, like, cutesy?

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like. It's like. It's very unserious.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay. Yeah, nothing.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like, super unserious.

[Moses Hacmon]

I think of, like, Reservoir Dog sawing the ear off, putting a bandage in it, talking to the ear. Like, that's how I visualize, like, very.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, it's just so. It's just cutesy, but it's like, oh, where did my husband go? Oh, my husband is gay. It's like, very. That.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay. It's just like critters are being gay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Like, one of them is, like, married, and she finds out her husband is gay and, you know, the dog is with another, you know, male rabbit or something. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's just a tiny little. It's just little skits and it's set to, like, you know, ironic music. Let it be like, to the Gracie Abrams. That's so true. It'll be set to that song, you know, so it's just funny. It's a good time. Anyway, they just. The update on it is they ended up dismissing the lawsuit because this was filed a while ago. So it's been like, they haven't been able to post in Almost a year. Sylvanian Drama.

[Moses Hacmon]

Are they back now?

[Trisha Paytas]

They announced on August 9th that the they are going to be rebranding on August 19th. So they are saying, hey, guys. They finally did a post. Hey, guys. On the 19th of August, I will be changing the name and picture of this account. I'm not sure what to change it to yet, so please let me know if you have any suggestions.

[Moses Hacmon]

Is it not gonna be Calico Critters anymore? Of, like, they're using they.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. We'll see. They're rebranding, but they haven't said what they're doing yet. Some main suggestions were canceled Critters, Desperate Mouse Wives, and not Slovenian Drama.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, my God. Those are great names. I love that. Who came up with that?

[Trisha Paytas]

Just people in the comments.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's so good. People are in. The comments are good. Honestly, like, we should just had the comments name our baby. Honestly, like, there was so many good ones before we came up with our name.

[Brooke]

I was like, lifeboat.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Moses really likes Lifeboat. Or Lake House. You like too.

[Brooke]

Lake House.

[Trisha Paytas]

Lake House is huge.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. So it's like, yeah, maybe if we had another baby, which we're definitely not. But the tubes are out. Although someone's like, tubes can grow back. I was like, oh, my God. I told Mose I had a dream I was pregnant again. He's like, yeah, I heard that. The tubes. Oh, my God.

[Brooke]

I've just seen tik toks of people. Like, we took the tubes up and then they have a picture of ultrasound that.

[Moses Hacmon]

I don't believe it. Doctors let me know. There's just like, no way. That's like. Like, they literally, like, no, it's, like, impossible.

[Brooke]

I mean, the body is pretty miraculous.

[Moses Hacmon]

But if you cut off a penis, it's not going to grow back.

[Brooke]

But this is an internal organ. I feel like there's more chances that something can happen. I don't know. I haven't looked into it yet.

[Moses Hacmon]

What was like, the name Batman for the fourth one? That was it the other day, or did I just make that up?

[Brooke]

You made that up.

[Moses Hacmon]

What did you say? Like, it could be. Because it was like, if you have another baby, like, his name would be.

[Brooke]

We had a name.

[Moses Hacmon]

Superman maybe.

[Brooke]

Oh, I said Superman because it's super.

[Moses Hacmon]

That far off. I was like, that one. Don't make me feel crazy.

[Brooke]

No, it's like Superman or Super Sperm.

[Trisha Paytas]

Super Sperm or the name of a baby.

[Brooke]

Because if the next baby makes it, it has to be like a super.

[Moses Hacmon]

I think it's Super Tubes. I Think my tubes are the one responsible for that super egg. What is that?

[Brooke]

I mean, because even Aquaman, we said it was like a pretty fierce swimmer.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's crazy. That's not why we came up with the name. That is wild. Okay, next up. That's not why we came up with a name. Oh, my God.

[Brooke]

That's literally what he had to do.

[Moses Hacmon]

They're like Superman. Superman, Batman. They're kind of super. Love that name for a baby. It's gonna be super sperm.

[Brooke]

I mean, they're sperm whale.

[Trisha Paytas]

True.

[Moses Hacmon]

Name. I guess.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, that one is. Yeah. Baby sperm is crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I mean, I guess do whatever, but.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, that one is bad. Yeah, that's the naming your child, like penis or something. Like, you can't do that. That's crazy. That's wild. Don't do any of that. Seriously. I don't know if people think I'm being ironic or funny, but, like, actually don't do that. You know, something like, okay, I won't. Wink, wink. What were you watching yesterday? Or someone winged. Okay, I'm not following.

[Trisha Paytas]

Mike and Molly, I'm assuming. Oh, it sounds like something they would do.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, God, people, I can't. No. Oh, my God. It's turning me nuts. He's like, okay, definitely not gonna do that wing.

[Brooke]

I mean, it was Mike and Molly.

[Moses Hacmon]

It was the body cam footage, right? Or was it Naked Gun? Someone was a cop and the person's like, okay, turn on those body cams.

[Brooke]

Like, yeah. Cuz then he kept winking. Cuz the. The chief was serious, but he was like, kept.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay.

[Brooke]

Trying alluding to like, yeah, of course we'll turn on the.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay. Okay. It's like, I don't think Mike and Molly would ever do that. Mike would never. Mike Biggs.

[Brooke]

I mean, he arrested her mom, so.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, yeah. Ch, ch, ch. Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Mike arrested Molly's mom.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Molly was not happy. That mom's feisty, though. Mike had an affair in season five, and he. Not an affair. He. A girl kissed him and she was a chubby blonde officer. I was like, that could have been my role. Because that was like 2014. And I was auditioning heavily in 2014. I could have played her cop. I think she might have been comedian, but could have been me. Wasn't me. I was an extra on Mike and Molly. I almost was. I didn't show up.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's crazy.

[Moses Hacmon]

I know. I think about that often. I think it's because I didn't show up to Two and a Half Men either. And I Got blacklisted from central casting. It was both CBS shows at Warner Brothers, I think.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah. Wait, so you didn't show up for Mike and Molly and Two and a Half Metal?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, and I think it was, like, second time or third time or something. I didn't show up for something, and they're like, you're.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're out.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, I never got to do it. It was like 2014. Luckily, YouTube was, like, taking off, so I was like, thank God. But, yeah, I was never casted again.

[Trisha Paytas]

Look at you now.

[Moses Hacmon]

What am I in on my own podcast? Right, right. I was back on that. We talked about that. I was back on that Warner Brothers lot.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, you mentioned it a few times. Even Trish Crave has reported.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, okay. Trish Grave.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, you've said it, like, three times.

[Moses Hacmon]

Did they report three times? I love Warner Brothers. I think that's my thing. My name's Aquaman Barbie.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, they all are. Wb.

[Moses Hacmon]

I think I like wb. Remember that frog that you to be the logo for?

[Trisha Paytas]

WB Weapons. Wb.

[Moses Hacmon]

Really? We're really wb.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, WB Partners.

[Moses Hacmon]

Love it.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's manifest. They cease and assist.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, no, we love you, wb. We are manifesting all good things.

[Trisha Paytas]

Superman available on digital.

[Moses Hacmon]

Is that Warner Brothers, too? We'll watch it then. For sure. We can watch digital movies. We're pretty good at that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, there you go. Buy it on Friday.

[Moses Hacmon]

I will. $27. Sign me up. Naked Gun was 27. Because I want to watch with my dad. I was like, who should watch this?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that's out already, too.

[Moses Hacmon]

I think it's been out since at least last weekend.

[Trisha Paytas]

Whoa. I didn't know that. Watch it then.

[Moses Hacmon]

You should. I think it's. I don't know if this is funny. Not in theaters, because, you know, theater is magical.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

We come to this place for magic. Nicole. Kimmy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Anyways, shout out Sylvanian Drama. We.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm on your side. I was trying to think, like, I guess that makes sense. But, yeah, you're right. Great. Love you.

[Trisha Paytas]

And good luck on the rebrand.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, we'll be watching.

[Brooke]

So does rebrand mean they're gonna use new. They're gonna find a new set of toys to use for it or.

[Trisha Paytas]

I have no idea, because maybe they.

[Brooke]

Just ended up, like, dismissing the lawsuit and just paying them, like, okay, let's take this money and just don't use it.

[Trisha Paytas]

They said that they, like the details fully. Haven't been announced, but it was like, they agree to just, like, dismiss it, and each side pays for their Own lease, illegal fees. Was.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's a lot, though. That's expensive. No, you're paying for my illegal fees.

[Trisha Paytas]

Especially for a brand versus a one creed.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, those are expensive. It's like, number one reason I don't get into lawsuits. Because that's so expensive. Like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

And. Yeah. Not worth it. Well, sorry. Hopefully he's making money. Everyone go check it out. What is it called again?

[Trisha Paytas]

Sylvanian Drama.

[Moses Hacmon]

I love the name. What's Sylvanian mean?

[Brooke]

Slovenia.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Or Slovenia.

[Brooke]

East Europe.

[Moses Hacmon]

Slovenia. I've never heard that.

[Trisha Paytas]

In other. In America, they're called Calico Critters, but other countries, the toys are called Sylvanian Families.

[Moses Hacmon]

I want to say that was in Dinner for Schmucks. He played with these toys.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know who that is. Dinner for Schmucks.

[Moses Hacmon]

Steve Carell, Paul Bread. You never saw it?

[Trisha Paytas]

No.

[Moses Hacmon]

And actually, the guy from Naked Gun who was also in Lost was in it too. It was awful. He's a great actor. And you really should have watched Lost.

[Trisha Paytas]

And we can talk about your Lost podcast.

[Moses Hacmon]

I should bring that back. Wait, what? Oh, you want to watch the last podcast.

[Trisha Paytas]

I do want to watch the last podcast.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's true. It's only six episodes. You get a recap. You have no idea what's going on, though. Because the way I explain things is.

[Trisha Paytas]

Definitely in those six episodes. You do the whole series?

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, because I think it's six seasons.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think I did each season. Each episode is one season.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Moses Hacmon]

Fierce after season, do a little recap. I'm like, like, let's talk about what happened. And then towards the end, I had no idea what was happening at any of those seasons. So I'm like, I think I just stopped maybe season seven. I didn't even do a recap.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was like, unironically, I'm gonna watch.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's good. It's still up. I think it is. Is it?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

I think Moses is a guest on one of the episodes. He was a guest.

[Brooke]

Saeed.

[Moses Hacmon]

Saeed. Yeah. Oh, that was our Herly. We did a lot that day, too. We did the podcast and went to the beach and did our maternity photos. Booked and busy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, so how would you feel if she deleted her Lost podcast? You're the brook in this situation.

[Brooke]

Well, given that I really brought, you know, helped the podcast grow.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, you did. You did on that one. I brought it to. I should clarify that. Okay, so people didn't think I wasn't. Cuz people like, wow, Trisha showing her bias against tana And I was like, no. And I guess I. I didn't watch the clip, so maybe I should have. Everyone's like, no, it wasn't about what she said. She was just trying to, like, get her channel back or something like that.

[Trisha Paytas]

It sounded like both. It sound like she said both. Tana said both things.

[Moses Hacmon]

She said. She.

[Trisha Paytas]

At first she talked about, like, oh, if I make it my vlogging channel and, like, the ad stuff or whatever. And she said she might pull Emma Chamberlain return to vlogging. And then the other thing was. Other thing she said after that was, I also just don't stand by everything that I've said.

[Moses Hacmon]

Oh, okay. That's half there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

And Tana has Since too, on TikTok. I think she had an apology. That's not like, the way she said it was not how she meant it to come across. Because I just say stuff, you know, after you, like, podcast for so long. And I was just, like, throwing it out there. So she has since retracted as well. I don't know. I literally wasn't. I was trying to, like, see how it was. But I do think I'm. I. Brooke helped build this podcast. You know what I mean by emotional tribute?

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm like, shout out the cancel girl.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, I always do too. I always say that. And like, they did. Our most popular episodes are Tana, Jeff, and Brooke. So there's not a doubt in my mind that that was never a thing for me. But do whatever you want. I don't know. Delete them or don't. I'm not deleting my lust. I delete stuff. What did I delete the other day? Oh, the psychic twins collaboration.

[Trisha Paytas]

Twins. Sometimes you just delete and you're not talking. I am no longer talking.

[Moses Hacmon]

That is crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's my favorite video. And you deleted that.

[Moses Hacmon]

I wonder why I did that, where I literally said nothing. I don't stand by it. I delete a lot. And I still will. I will delete stuff all the time. There's stuff. I'll be like, oh, we should edit this or whatever. Sometimes let's just delete everything. Let's just delete the whole episode. You know, it's just easier. I'm like, I'm just delete it. But I don't want, like, holes in the episode or anything. Sometimes you gotta delete. That's what the delete one's there for.

[Trisha Paytas]

The what?

[Moses Hacmon]

The delete button is there for a reason.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

You know, like, they wouldn't let you delete things if you weren't supposed to delete.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Not cancel. Just anything. Anything we do. But yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Moses Hacmon]

Did we end on a sour note? Yeah. Because otherwise have been so good in life, too. In life. But, yeah, I was like, Like, I support you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Here we go.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah. Okay. Go for it. Yeah. Because it was, like, sad. It was actually sad. And, like. Like, I guess I should, like, preface it by saying that even though you're the one going to golf, because you know me, I'm not articulate with anything, but I. I was very, like, triggered, I guess, and that's why I was like, honestly, I feel like we should say something because it's, like, happening currently and it feels problematic. And maybe I'm like, two of my feels because it's you or whatever, but maybe not. Because then I was reading comments. I was like, maybe not. Maybe I'm not the only one that feels this way. But really, it's about you. So at the end of the day. But I'm here to support. And first, you guys know I would love to, like, go up, but you go off so much better than I do. You do it more articulately. You do it nicely. And get me. I just like this episode. I just blab, and I have no idea what I'm saying. So I'll chime in, Right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

If I can.

[Trisha Paytas]

Something about a shake and go wig just makes me want to shake the table. I guess.

[Moses Hacmon]

Shaking goes crazy. What does that mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like you take it out of the bag, you shake it, and you put it on, and you go, I.

[Moses Hacmon]

Love that you got it. Because I said, do you need a wig? Because I was like, let me know. I have so many wigs. I'm just gonna get one off Amazon. I was like, I love Jeff Bezos.

[Trisha Paytas]

It is kind of accurate to Julia Garner. I think it's a little crazy, but, you know.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, no, it actually looks really, really good. Because sometimes. Yeah, that was the Oompa Loompa one. Looked a little. I mean, I loved it, but, you know. Yeah, this one looks real legit.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that. This is the one that I'm gonna read in.

[Moses Hacmon]

It's like you're going in disguise. That was an Oscar. That was.

[Trisha Paytas]

There is something also very camp about, like, shaking the table and the cosplay, too. I'm like.

[Moses Hacmon]

And I'm serious. Yeah. Which is you, in general is pretty unserious. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. So to the BFS podcast. Let's see. So if you guys don't know, Brianna, Chicken Fry, and Josh, they responded To a clip on their little program from my live stream where I joked about their interview with Adam Sandler and live.

[Moses Hacmon]

Stream on Oscar's, my own personal channel. Yes, but it was fine if you were to say it here too. I'm just clarifying that it was on a channel that you were streaming for three hours.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, it was a three hour stream. It was to like 600 people. And in the stream too, I was having viewers give their ideas for Hot Topics that we would talk about on just. Trish, I love it.

[Moses Hacmon]

Okay. Love, love.

[Trisha Paytas]

But yeah, so in this live stream, it was like almost three hours and I was just. We were talking to viewers and they were giving me ideas of what we could do for Hot Topics. It was kind of like a behind the scenes. I needed a live stream that day and also need a prep for just trash. I was like. I was like two birds, one stone. And in the live stream, someone asked me to react to Brianna's interview with Adam Sandler for Happy Gilmore 2. And I was pretty bamboozled and baffled because from a media standpoint, it was just kind of random. Like, it just baffled me. And listen, I'm not an influencer. I was just live streaming for fun. It was too small crowd. It was my one day off and it's live.

[Moses Hacmon]

And it's live reaction is live. It's like your initial reaction captured.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, it was my initial reaction.

[Moses Hacmon]

You didn't sleep on it. Thought the next morning, like, I need to talk about this.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was just like it was live in the moment. This is the first time I heard about your interview for Abby Gilmore too. It's also like two weeks after the movie came out. So, yeah, it was just a live in the moment reaction. And it was very unserious altogether. You know, I was just having a laugh.

[Moses Hacmon]

I watched you talking about it. I'm not. We hadn't watched the clips last episode. We hadn't. I just had seen clips. I didn't watch like the entirety of it. I still remember watching the entirety of it. In fact, I usually scroll past their clips because it's like they're like weirdly triggering. And as anything that triggers you, you should probably not watch it. And that's why I was like, even after this, I'm like, I'm always just gonna like go right past because it's actually like so triggering sometimes to watch people and I don't get triggered easily, but like, for some reason. And their names are Brianna Lapiglia and Josh Richardson is their names. Because people always think we're like trying to be funny by not knowing their last names. But like, I looked it up, that's the name. And yeah, like, it's weirdly triggering. And I don't know what's. It's always has been Brian, I think, especially towards me. Like, it's always been like, really triggering. I try to be like, on her side and I like, it's like, you know, sometimes it just doesn't mesh. So I'm like, I will always scroll past after this, but this one, I saw this clip and I was just like, we should have talked more about it because it's actually problematic.

[Trisha Paytas]

But yeah. And for some reason my little live stream struck a nerve. Don't truly know why, but yeah. And we weren't even going to talk about it really, because it's like I obviously just kind of bring. For two reasons. You know, I do believe that, like, if you talk about someone. Yes. They obviously have the right to respond. So that's one thing and then two. It's also like if the one clip that I'm seeing get a lot of traction is you're talking about a nobody like me, like, that says a lot more about your program.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, first of all, you are iconic because you are a part of influence.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, I'm not an influence.

[Moses Hacmon]

Well, now you kind of are, but.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, so that says more about that. But then, yes, you're right. I was also just ignoring the clips. I'm like, whatever, go off. But then I did catch wind of one remark that Brianna made and I was like, I don't know if I can let this go either. I really don't know.

[Moses Hacmon]

It was bad. It was pretty bad.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was kind of like, yes, Brianna made a casually homophobic remark too.

[Moses Hacmon]

Casually.

[Trisha Paytas]

Very, very casually. Yes. And during this little tirade against me where she suggested that I am. I was shady towards Josh because I have a crush on him. Energy in between us, what's going on? Maybe I'm all about love, which is a very blatant microaggression. I get there's going to be people who say, that's not that big of a deal. It's just a joke. But also considering the only times I ever hear about Brianna is when she's either being ignorant or cheated on. She has a track record of really putting her foot in her mouth and saying things that are offensive. So it didn't. I shouldn't have been as surprised as I was, but it did kind of take me out for a second. So that I just couldn't overlook when.

[Moses Hacmon]

Josh Was like going in on like being me. Like he was being, he was, you know, like you said, he's responding to something that he thought was like, I guess serious on your end, which like, you know, for the record, you said it wasn't. It was like unserious. But he was being, he was being nasty. You know, he was being not nasty, mad. He was very mad, very angry. It wasn't like a light hearted key to which she's like, yeah, maybe he likes you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Mm. And and also like saying that stuff in general leads to so much violence against queer people. Like literally that to kids in high school, like that whole rhetoric of like, oh, the gay kid is like preying on the stray kid that leads to so much queer violence. And also at a time where it literally the timing of this is crazy. The timing where the Supreme Court is going to be ruling on same sex marriage. Like the whole timing of this, it all put like a really bad taste in my mouth.

[Moses Hacmon]

Mouth.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I feel like that is a big reason why we kind of have to like speak up. And also I don't understand this whole thing too with like, I literally said like, oh, he's not my type. I didn't like his outfit. Really was the gist of it. I didn't like his outfit. It was like random to me. So everyone, rest assured, Josh, Brianna, Josh, not my type. My type is not chopped. My type is not boring. So everyone is good, everyone is safe. And also I feel like we've been like very positive about especially Brianna and Jen. The rare time she comes up, despite everything against her, despite my introduction to her being when she body shamed you.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And despite everything she's like, I never.

[Moses Hacmon]

Ever talk about Trisha. I was like, girl, every time I bring it up, she's just. You always have talk about that. That was a long time ago. And she like apologized and DM to me and then she was so yeah, sorry, go ahead. But yeah, no, that was like the first. No, she's always had very like not nice energy towards us and we tried to like pass because you know, as we always say, like people do change. She is like. Because she was becoming a little more mainstream. And then the stuff with Zach happened and we're like, okay, like, you know, we always try to champion the girl and even in this interview we're like, I even was like, oh, like Brianna maybe should have just done it because she is kind of the, the front facing one of them. So it was just very much like Josh didn't want to be there I feel like it's criticism. Like anyone says with me, oh, Trish me to Moses or this, it's like, you know, it's criticism. People, like, can say stuff about you, whatever. It's not like, like, mean and just like, nasty. We're not like body shaming, either of them. Yeah, Brianna's very, like, big on, like, that's why I thought she changed too. She's very open about her insecurity about her body. So I was like, okay, maybe she sent me to body shame me like four years ago or whatever, you know, so it's like she's always, like, missed the mark when it comes to me. And it's like, maybe she just doesn't see. Maybe they see out of context clips too. But it's like, yeah, it's kind of sad because we've always kind of been. Especially lately I've been championing her. I even commented like, you know, this is like, cool. Like, she did. She took on some show and I was like, oh, this is cool before all this, you know, so it's like, just weird to like. But when people say those on, like, those slighted comments where it's just very, like, under the radar sort of things, it's like it comes from, like a deeper place of like. Yeah, like, there's like a. Whether it's homophobia just like this, like, hatred, or there's like evil, like a meanness in her, you know, it doesn't just come off the cuff. That's not the first thing people say in 2025. It's something people say in, like, the 90s. Like, what, do you got a crush on me? Like, you know, and then, like you said, it becomes an issue.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah. And even when we, when we were talking about the whole thing too, was like, yeah, Briana could probably continue doing these interviews or whatever, so. But it did seem, like, very out of pocket to have that much anger towards something that, again, was very, very unserious. But I mean, since they did tell me to off, I feel like I can be pretty transparent that, like, yeah, I was baffled because I didn't think they had the charisma nor the interview skills to pull this off. And I was apparently right because the video with Adam Sandler was struggling to hit 30k views. Okay, like, let's just be. Let's just be for real. Those are just the indisputable facts. Okay? Like, I don't understand. You can't argue that. And I get you guys have millions of followers on Instagram, but if people aren't clicking on the video, then people want to look at you, but they don't want to hear from you. And that's just.

[Moses Hacmon]

Just.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's just the tea. Okay, that's not a me problem. That's you problem.

[Moses Hacmon]

And articulate, because up is just like, you had nothing. You know what I mean? Like, if they could have, like, articulated something a little better, you know, it would too.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was such a light read that. And then to have all that just anger and, like, vitriol and then again to, like, rely on homophobia and cursing for the basis of your argument is outlandish for something.

[Moses Hacmon]

So it's not like a David Dobrik, like, injured you sort of thing. And it's like, oh, so it's, like, so light. It was just, like, kind of wild. But, yeah, like, I'm telling you, it's like, not that light conversation. We're like, oh, they're, like, angry. There's, like, some hatred behind this for, like, which is, like, crazy. When I see people, like, criticize me, I never think, like, even was, like, Sophia with an F. Like, it really hurt my feelings, but it was never like, when she got my hair fried or whatever. But it wasn't, like, this scary. Like, oh, my God, like, why? Like, for what reason? You know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it was very. Again, from the context of it being from a random live stream, which I do for fun, not because I'm a big streamer or anything, to a small group of people that have, like, 20,000 views. It's not like I have a giant platform in which I was, like, lambasting the two of them and calling them chopped, because I wasn't. I was just gagged at the interview for the right reasons. And also, I thought it was so funny that they perpetuated that. I was just jealous that I didn't get to have that opportunity to interview Adam Sandler when I would expect, if you're gonna find a small clip from my tiny little live stream, that you would at least just do a search on LinkedIn to see that. I've been producing interviews for over a.

[Moses Hacmon]

Decade and hosting Kardashian, Kim Kardashian, and just. You don't even want to go sometimes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Exactly. And won an Emmy for producing celebrity interviews, period. I've been there, done that. So we can't. Don't compete where you don't compare. Okay, you can. Do you have a streaming even so what the hell?

[Moses Hacmon]

Not the streaming. Like me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, for. Yes, for producing celebrity interviews. I've been doing this for literally 12 years. Okay, so to insinuate that I'm jealous of your one opportunity to cover a junket. It wasn't even an exclusive anything. No, I was just gagged because I thought the opportunity could be used better. And I was gagged from the media perspective, the PR perspective of it being a failed activation because, again, it struggles to hit 30,000 views. I don't think you are the reason why Happy Gilmore 2 was. Was a success. It wasn't Chicken Shop Date. It wasn't Hot Ones. It wasn't the Rizzler playing Mario Kart with the cast of Abbott Elementary. It was a Nothing burger, okay?

[Moses Hacmon]

Literally. And that's jealous is crazy. That's giving Matt rife. Like, everyone's jealous of us. Like, that's wild. Like, what do you mean? No, I didn't even know you interviewed on that. I was like, the cast. I was like, I'm sure it was with that. Because I would have seen that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Exactly. I just was baffled because I hadn't seen it anywhere and the opportunity could have been used better places. I am not jealous. And maybe, I guess maybe you should be the ones hanging out on LinkedIn, maybe updating your resumes or something. Because that's the thing about me. Like, I am not an influencer. I do this because it's fun. I am passionate about it. But I am employed, okay? I have a job that I do. This is what I do on the side. So literally, just do an iota of research if you're gonna take one clip and then go off on me. I did research on everyone over there at BFFs.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I did a little LinkedIn search to see what was going on over there. I was like, maybe there's a gay. I didn't see one.

[Moses Hacmon]

So not one insight, not one to be found?

[Trisha Paytas]

No. So that really is the tea. And I know that Brianna specifically was like, damn. I just don't know why they talk about us so much. Well, girl, guess what? You got your wish. Because this is literally the last time I will ever, ever, ever say either of her names or the show's name. I barely comes to mind at all. Only when people beg me to drag you. Aren't you embarrassed that, like, people are begging me to shade you? Does that not embarrass you the tiniest bit that there's so many people rooting against you? Wouldn't that cause a little bit of self reflection, a little bit of introspection, being like, maybe I am doing something wrong, but I don't know.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's what I don't understand either. She's so online and is so aware of, like, how people, you know, perceive. And it's like. And people, like, root for her so many times. Like, so many times the stuff when, like, Grace happened and then the thing with Zach, Bryan and Dave, like, people root for her so many times and then like, messes it up because she's just not. Like, there's no inner work, there's no like, healing. Like, you're just this like, mean girl inside. But you have so many people that are rooting for you and you do get so many amazing opportunities. You're at Red Carpets, you're beautiful. You have all these things and constantly messing it up is like, it's just, it is sad. It's like, it's a sad thing. And like you said, like, why are they always talking about us? It's like the only time we do is when it's like a hot topic. Obviously people were talking about it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Lukewarm topic.

[Moses Hacmon]

Luke war. It was on your stream. We. I just talked about not Loveline because Tana's Adam Sandler. It was like, yeah, people were talking about it. Like, that's what we do. But it's not like. But I, I love it. I'm with you. Because they're not an enemy of the show where it's like, you know, people like. Oh, you say you stopped talking about it. It's like, yeah, people who have, like traumatized us, you know, if it's a David or Colleen or something, they don't traumatize us. It's not something I think about. We're often on Brianna's side. I always think, oh, good for her doing this. Like, I always just look at her and be like, she's doing good stuff. Stuff. I was still following her. Obviously not now after all this because it's like there's some deep rooted, like, hatred. Whether it's like self hatred or whatever. And I know she has insecurities. I know she's very open. She can be very vulnerable. It just really sucks to not like, like you said, so many people are like criticizing or rooting, like, like you said, like, asking to be dragged. I was like, there has to be a reason. It's not jealous. Like, not everyone's jealous. You know what I mean? Like I said, most people in this day and age are rooting for girls in the world, just in general. Girl friendships, you know, you and Grace, girl bosses. You know, you're at barstool with a bunch of men. So people are rooting for you. You know, you're obviously. Your breakup with Zach, Brian, like, people are rooting for you, so it's. It's sad to, like, waste that because you're not doing any work inside.

[Trisha Paytas]

Mm.

[Moses Hacmon]

And Josh, as we know, we know our opinion about him. I don't know if there's hope for you, but, you know, Brianna, there is that. Maybe there is. I don't know. I'm not trying to get invested in it, honestly, because I'm the same way. It's actually. That one actually pissed me off. The way it was said and the way they said it and stuff and how it's. Yeah, it's. It's. There's ways to, like, criticize. There's a way to talk about hot topics and gossip and gag. But I do think, yeah, there's some things that, you know, just cheap and just dumb shots. You know what I mean? Whereas, like, people who have nothing else to say, it's like, you don't go for the low blows on some things.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And if they've, like. If they had a lick of creativity to their reads, if they're actually reading instead of just being, like, mean, there is a big difference as well. Like, you do have to learn to laugh at yourself.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

It is okay to flop. It's okay to fail. Like, and you have to see that the numbers are there. The numbers are the numbers. And it's okay to try new things, but it's not okay to feel, like, entitled to opportunities just because you have a million followers on Instagram and you dated someone famous. You think you have that you're entitled to be going to these junkets and getting these opportunities or not. You still have to work at it, and you still have to be open to criticism. You have to see, oh, this flopped. How can I pivot? How can I make it better? It's normal to do that, but it's not normal to be so entitled and, like, overconfident and narcissistic. That is not a normal thing. And don't come talking about me like you think I'm just a normal influencer, because I'm not. I have something called a resume, okay? And it's been a decade in the making, so check that one out. But maybe I'll see you at the Special Forces Press junket, and we can work it out on the remix. But until then, it's over. It's over.

[Moses Hacmon]

Would you stop her on the red carpet?

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe she'll stop me on the red carpet.

[Brooke]

We'll see.

[Moses Hacmon]

We'll see.

[Trisha Paytas]

We'll see. We can work it out on the remix at Special Forces, maybe. Until then, it's over. If they respond. I don't like you guys. Our viewers who just want me to see it. Don't tag me in it, don't clip it unless they're paying you, because God knows they could use a little support right now. I don't want to see it, nor do I care to see it. I really don't think about that.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, it's not. It's not equal. You know what I mean? As far as, like, a beef back and forth, there's, like, no. There's nothing to gain.

[Trisha Paytas]

Mm.

[Moses Hacmon]

Congratulations, Special Force. I do think that's what I'm saying. She gets these opportunities. It's good. Hence why we're saying you're the one who's deserving to do more of these. So it's like, we do try to give, like, credit. Like, Josh isn't on anything. Maybe he doesn't want to be, maybe doesn't aspire to be. But you're doing stuff. You're on stuff. Like, you could have those opportunities, and it's just you kind of keep messing it up. But anyways, that was. I think that was perfectly said. You are. And it was. It, like, warm my heart to see so many comments. There was, like, literally 400 comments on one that was just very much in the defense of you, which I've never seen anyone like, any, as you say, normal influencer gets so much, like, love and support.

[Trisha Paytas]

And like, yeah, yeah, I was very thankful. That's why, again, I didn't want to say anything really, because the comments kind of spoke for themselves, you know, like, the fact that I only saw this clip because people were clipping and being like, they suck was very reassuring, you know. But again, like, that microaggression really just stuck with me and it, like, I couldn't let that go, considering, especially here, like, our platform is very much queer. So.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah, of course. And in the off chance she didn't realize that, you know, now you do and hopefully like it, you know, and I do think it's important to say that kind of stuff because it's like, it is actually very problematic and maybe. Maybe for some reason she didn't see it that way or something. But now you will clearly know and hopefully not happen again.

[Trisha Paytas]

We'll see. Actually, I won't. So we won't take it.

[Moses Hacmon]

No, I know we scroll past that for the reason I almost to even text you because, like, I do hate that too. We're like, did you see what said, that's about you? But I was so. I was like. But I guess because the comments were so nice, I was like, screenshot the comments. I was like, well, people are.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, no, we're on the same track. Because on Monday, we both like, oh, I didn't see it. Like, whatever. We weren't really gonna talk about. We did a little bit on Patreon, but not really.

[Moses Hacmon]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

But then. Yeah, yesterday too, I saw the remark about the people just being like, oh, but this is, like, underlying homophobia, this thing. And then I was like, wait, what did she say? Yeah, and I just couldn't let that go. Just couldn't let that one go. And I love how camp it is, me going off in this little Julia Garner cosplay jam. Like, work. It makes it even more fun.

[Moses Hacmon]

So good. Yeah, I love it too. You with an Emmy in this? It is. Yes, absolutely.

[Trisha Paytas]

Hello.

[Moses Hacmon]

I know. I never forget. I, I. But I do love to. To remind people of all your accomplishments, because it's impressive. I always. I've always bragged about you, always wanted to work with you. Like, I always think it's like, yeah, what you do is amazing and impressive and truly, no one else is doing that except for people you work with.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, exactly.

[Moses Hacmon]

Coworkers. All right, you guys.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, that's that on that.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's that. Watch weapons.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Well, yes.

[Moses Hacmon]

Or dope.

[Trisha Paytas]

Watch weapons. Superman on digital and Warner Brothers. Yeah.

[Moses Hacmon]

Molly is on Hulu. We will watch on Max. Actually, I don't even think we watch on Hulu. Mike and Molly, and go to our patreon, patreon.com. just Trish, where we do bonus videos every week from us to you. We love you. And what are you doing on your phone over there? You're doing something so fast. You're doing Pokemon, aren't you? Flip your phone.

[Brooke]

No, babe, no.

[Moses Hacmon]

What were you doing?

[Brooke]

We are closing the show.

[Moses Hacmon]

That's crazy. Okay, bye. Three hours.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.