Tara (2:22)

That is funny. I. Thank you. Wow. I make it a big deal just to remind everybody that I've been here 19 years, but I. This is. This is impressive. Okay.

Moses (2:31)

I was telling Oscar, like you did to Vanilla Ice, what, you know, Stranger Things did to Kate Bush.

Tara (2:37)

Okay.

Trisha Paytas (2:38)

The revival.

Tara (2:40)

I feel like, that's what I did to Vanilla Ice. Cuz he was at like Mar a Lago or something. I don't know if we can say that. Can we say that? I don't know.

Moses (2:47)

I guess we don't want to do him, but.

Tara (2:49)

Right? Was it.

Moses (2:50)

No, I think, I think.

Tara (2:52)

No, I think it was. I was like, wow, that's wild. What a way to start. Happy 2026. Oh my God, you guys are in blue. Wow.

Moses (3:00)

Matched everything.

Tara (3:01)

You were texting Oscar last night.

Trisha Paytas (3:03)

Yeah, we were in cahoots.

Tara (3:05)

It was really sauce, actually. I was getting. I actually got like annoyed. And he's just like. He goes, what did you say? Because I was like, who are you texting? And you're like. You said, what did you say?

Moses (3:13)

And I knew it was not texting, I'm just reading something.

Tara (3:16)

And he was like smiling standing up.

Moses (3:18)

He was texting me back. And it made me smile because.

Tara (3:22)

What was it was this.

Moses (3:24)

Oh, okay. So I. I was like, okay, we're gonna do the rap song. And then he was like, wait, you're gonna do the fast reading one?

Tara (3:30)

Oh, you have a performance too?

Moses (3:32)

Yeah.

Tara (3:32)

Okay.

Moses (3:33)

So that made me laugh because I was like, oh, no.

Tara (3:35)

I was like, actually annoyed. And I even went to your Instagram. I was checking dms. I was just like waiting for you to put your phone down. I was like, that's weird. Okay, you're gonna do one. Which one is this from? This is from 2010.

Moses (3:45)

What do you mean? Yeah, this is the. To be or not to be.

Trisha Paytas (3:48)

Oh.

Tara (3:49)

Oh, you're going to do the. Okay. This is a Guinness World Record. Oh, my God.

Moses (3:51)

Yeah, I'm going to break it too. I mean, English is not even.

Tara (3:57)

You do speak better than me, though. All right, let's. Let's hear.

Moses (3:59)

Okay. Whether it's mind to suffer the sleeping of the. Or take ar against the sea Terrible. And opening to die to sleep no more. The best sleep would end the hard day I get the thousand natural shocks that communication the relative that wish to be dysleep to sleep the personalized dream Others the rap where to sleep that what dreams may come. Yeah.

Tara (4:26)

Did I sleep no more? Is that what you said? Did you do it? That was. I did.

Moses (4:31)

I did. As far as everyone concerned, I did.

Tara (4:33)

Wow. Is that your first time reading Shakespeare?

Moses (4:36)

Yes.

Tara (4:37)

That was good.

Moses (4:37)

Let's go ahead and you better. It's not easy.

Tara (4:39)

Yeah, it's not easy. Why they have you do that to break the Guinness World Records is insane. Because no one talks like that anymore. That's from, like, the 1800s. Like, that's.

Moses (4:46)

That's part of it, I guess. It makes it like people can't even understand if you did it right or not.

Tara (4:51)

They slow it down, let me tell you, because I did beat it, but they slow it down. Like, actually, you missed, like, five words. And I was like, well, okay then, like, who can even say all those words? That was pretty impressive.

Moses (4:59)

Well, slow me down. You'll see. I did not miss a word.

Tara (5:01)

Slow it down, Jimmy. To be answering whether it's sublime to suffer the sibling of the rivals now choose friendship or take counsel against the sea trouble and opening lizards.

Trisha Paytas (5:13)

That right? Right.

Tara (5:15)

I heard it. I understood it. Wow. When did you. How did you practice that?

Moses (5:18)

No, you didn't. You just. I looked at the text. I was like, okay, I know these words. They're familiar.

Tara (5:24)

Wow, that's pretty impressive.

Moses (5:26)

But I have in my mind you doing it for so many times, for so long that I kind of. I know how to explain it. Like, I know how to browse through the words you were studying.

Trisha Paytas (5:35)

Yeah.

Tara (5:35)

Okay. Yeah, I thought that was great. Yeah, I practiced it over and over so I could, like, have it memorized. Wait, this was. That was very exciting. Where did you get the number wounds? Party city is closed.

Moses (5:45)

I know it's been crisis here, but it's been crisis.

Tara (5:51)

I know you left early. I was done with glam at, like, 9. I was so early, Jane. I was like, oh, okay, perfect. Like nine. Like, that's so much time. So. And then you left to go do something. So I was like, you know what? I'll go leave too. Cause I was like, I don't know. Arby's has a new peach cobbler. Not sponsored, but I was like, they've been so loyal to me. I'm like, let me go try their new peach cobbler thing. And I. You know, I want to give a little. I haven't, like, made a TikTok. But anyways, whatever. I thought, you know, you think you have all the time in the world when you're early. You're like, oh, I have so much time. I got there. The residual one opens at 9:00am The Simi Valley one opens at 10:00am so I get there at like, 9:40. Like, we're not even open. So I was like, I'll wait till 10.

Trisha Paytas (6:22)

You should have been like, hey, I'm in the commercial, though.

Tara (6:24)

Can you just fire up those mozzarella sticks quickly? I know I should have. They didn't care this time. They did not care. At 9:40 in the morning they were like, no. They're like, our workers are not here. I didn't ask when they're like our workers. I was like, okay, I know. And then you came in right at 10. And I was. Then I was stressing. So then right at 10, I'm at the. I'm back at the drive thru. And I was like, hey, can I get like, yeah, P around? They're like, it's gonna be a few minutes because we're not. We don't even have any of the oilers oiled up and stuff. Oh, no. So it took another like 10 minutes. Then I had to make my TikTok. It was a whole thing. So I. But I guess it was fun because.

Moses (6:52)

We had text rehearsal.

Trisha Paytas (6:53)

Yeah.

Tara (6:54)

Oh, why? Is there more? Is there fireworks? What's happening next?

Moses (6:57)

That's the tech. That was the tech. This is great.

Tara (7:00)

I know. I was like, don't come. Don't come in, like right away. We're gonna get set up for that. I didn't know what this was. Okay, thank you. This is very exciting. Yes. I have been on YouTube 19 and still on YouTube. I remember people being like, what are you gonna do after YouTube is over? But here we are. Honestly, YouTube is like, yes, I have more followers on TikTok. You get more eyes there. Instagram, like, whatever. But like, YouTube is and always has been the best one for monetization. Those other platforms just can't seem to figure it out. Instagram tried for a minute with reels, then they took that away. TikTok, I mean, if you're making money on there, like, shout out to you. But YouTube has been consistent even when I was in my flop era, like, the ASMR channel did well. Like, they're pretty good with the monetization over here.

Moses (7:39)

So I was thinking yesterday about it. Like, the most we watch on our TV is YouTube.

Trisha Paytas (7:44)

Yeah.

Moses (7:44)

Like we watch.

Tara (7:45)

That's all we watch.

Moses (7:46)

That's all we watch on our tv. It's like. So I feel like there is a place, there's a. There's a moment where things will.

Tara (7:52)

For sure. I mean, the Oscars are going to be on there. 20, 29. Is that when it starts?

Trisha Paytas (7:55)

Yeah.

Tara (7:56)

We'll be hosting. Just know who's been here in 19 years. YouTube. Me. I was thinking about this. Not even. Not to be like, whatever, but like, has anyone else been on YouTube for 19 years and consistently posted has like an Ijustine, maybe. She's the only one I can think of. That's the only one. Name one other person because like, a smos. No, they took a break.

Trisha Paytas (8:17)

Oh, you're right.

Tara (8:18)

They sold. They sold out. Oh, yeah. They're like, we're selling it for 5 million and then we're back. Anthony came back for a he, but he had a break in between their Anthony Padilla. But, yeah, they have been. I will give them the credit for sure.

Moses (8:28)

Yeah.

Tara (8:28)

Shane had a year break. I know we're not supposed to mention him in 2026, but here we are. He had about a year break, you know, and there's nothing wrong with taking a break. I was just like. But yeah, me and Justine is there. We've really. We've really held on. I thought about her too. I was like, wow, that's.

Trisha Paytas (8:41)

You know, were giving I Justine in your first YouTube video. Like, really? You all look like sisters. Yeah, I think the bangs. You guys are both tan and blonde.

Tara (8:49)

Well, that was everybody in 27. That was all the girls from Laguna beach and all those, like, Kristen Cavallaris. Like, I think everyone was. Yeah, everyone was looking like that. And yeah, I'm glad to be here, you know. Oh, wow. Wait. This is so crazy. What is this cake from? This is so weird. My whole TikTok is this cake right now.

Moses (9:08)

No way. What?

Tara (9:10)

Do you know this? Why did you get this one? Because that's so random to get for me.

Moses (9:12)

It's a cheesecake inside, and I want to get you a cheesecake.

Tara (9:15)

Oh, my. Wait, that sounds so good.

Moses (9:19)

They asked him to write 19, and I'm like, seriously?

Tara (9:22)

What? What do you mean?

Trisha Paytas (9:24)

It sounds like that's like Malibu. It is giving Malibu.

Moses (9:28)

Oh, my God.

Tara (9:28)

First of all, it looks slay. Okay, clicker for over here. That's crazy. My whole for you page is this Matilda cake everywhere. Like, people like, you can buy the Matilda cake, which I know it's all the machine cake. That looks delicious. I will have some of that too. I've had a peach cobbler Jamoca shake and now a chocolate cheesecake. That's how my 2026 Monday is starting. Yum. Thank you. Wow. This is so.

Moses (9:51)

Wow.

Tara (9:52)

Thank you so much. I should have really had, like, one of my. I have like, five editors. I should have. Somebody edited my montage because everyone's like, it just stops at the end. Very trish. I was like, I know. It could have been. There's more moments. And I'm just. I literally had, like, 30 minutes. When was it that you guys were gone? Oh, you took the kids to the playground one day, the indoor playground. And I stayed with Aquaman. So I had an hour and a half of getting everything done. My TikToks and YouTube.

Trisha Paytas (10:14)

That's impressive.

Tara (10:15)

It was. I've been recording it, and Aquaman wasn't sleeping. He was supposed to be napping. So I was like, all right. But he was, like, sitting next to me but making noise. And then all I could think of is the people being like, oh, my God, that baby's making noise. Pick it up. So I was like, I'll just hold. Wow, it's gorge. Thank you. Okay. Don't feel pressure to eat this at all.

Trisha Paytas (10:30)

I'll save it for Patreon.

Tara (10:31)

Okay. Okay. Okay. Because it's, you know. Thank you. I will have a little piece now.

Moses (10:36)

This is for you to taste. Now we'll eat the rest on Patreon.

Tara (10:39)

Okay. Go over there. Thank you. Wow. What a way to start. Happy 26.

Trisha Paytas (10:50)

Happy 2026. I can't believe I haven't seen you since last year. That is crazy.

Tara (10:54)

We haven't seen each other in a really long time. Because we filmed the last episode on the 19th.

Trisha Paytas (10:57)

Yeah. Like, a little bit early before a break.

Tara (10:59)

That's crazy.

Trisha Paytas (11:00)

Yeah. It feels like it's been a long time, but it also went by really fast.

Tara (11:03)

I don't know how really fast.

Trisha Paytas (11:05)

Yeah.

Tara (11:05)

I almost was gonna be like, are we filming? Because some people are, like, taking longer breaks. Like, Tanner doesn't come back to, like, the 15th from Hawaii. Yeah. I'm like, a lot of people are taking breaks for, like, a long time.

Trisha Paytas (11:14)

Oh, girl. We hit the ground running over here. Yep. I weirdly, was, like, anxious. I was like, do I still got it? And then I was getting, like, my notes ready, and I was like, I actually have so much to say about everything going on in life. Oh, really?

Tara (11:27)

Over Hot Topics today.

Trisha Paytas (11:28)

Yeah. And I feel positive. Like, I feel good. Vibes are great.

Tara (11:32)

Yeah. Moses can't wait either. He's been telling me. So no one likes that new Cat's Eye song. I was like, what? Like, and then he'll tell me the cucumber and our zucchini, and I'm like, okay, but that's not new. That's.

Moses (11:42)

No. My question was. I was confused. I didn't know what was going on because. Is this the zucchini song that was already out?

Trisha Paytas (11:47)

That is the zucchini song.

Moses (11:48)

Or is it the new song that was just released? That's what. I didn't know what was going on.

Trisha Paytas (11:52)

They were performing an unreleased song on tour, and they finally released it as one last gift, they said of 2025.

Tara (12:01)

People did not like it, according to Moses.

Trisha Paytas (12:03)

Yeah, it's been a little split because the people got used to the live version, and in the produced studio version, like, they just made some changes that some of the fans didn't like. There's like, a little baby voice instead of the girls singing a part of it. So people have edited the baby out and called it Internet girl aborted version. Oh, my God.

Tara (12:21)

Oh, my God. That's. That's extreme. Well, you know, that's the problem. You get too famous. What are your thoughts? Do you like the baby version?

Trisha Paytas (12:31)

I don't love the baby voice, but I like everything else, and I did the baby voice. I have no idea who the baby is in question.

Moses (12:35)

It's all. It's always Tony's fault. Who? Tony. He's to blame in everything bad that's happened. There's.

Tara (12:43)

There's a lot too early in 2026.

Moses (12:47)

There's so much I need to get.

Trisha Paytas (12:49)

You guys really offline. I was cramming last night.

Tara (12:52)

You were offline?

Trisha Paytas (12:53)

I was pretty offline, yeah.

Tara (12:54)

Last night you were streaming Last night.

Trisha Paytas (12:56)

I was streaming, and then people were giving me, like, hot Topics, and I didn't know what any of them were, and I was like, y', all, I gotta study up. I gotta study up. And I caught up last night.

Tara (13:04)

You crammed.

Trisha Paytas (13:04)

Yeah.

Tara (13:04)

Why were you not working the critics choice? I DM'd you a minute after you post your story. I'm like, oh, why aren't you working?

Trisha Paytas (13:09)

We don't cover the Critics Choice because of a network thing. It's on E. So, yeah, we're on.

Tara (13:15)

I saw Access there.

Trisha Paytas (13:17)

E and Access are owned by NBC.

Tara (13:19)

Oh, t. Because when I did the Wicked premiere, like, you can't give interviews to anyone else. And I was like, okay. But then he was like, can you get an interview? And they're like, oh, yeah, you can go there. I was like, oh, wow.

Trisha Paytas (13:27)

Yeah.

Tara (13:27)

Oh, I didn't know.

Trisha Paytas (13:28)

Yep. Yep. So it was a different network. So I'll take it. I'll take one last award show to cover. So now our first one is Golden Globes.

Tara (13:35)

When's that?

Trisha Paytas (13:36)

Sunday. This coming Sunday.

Tara (13:37)

So then you're gonna be locked in.

Trisha Paytas (13:38)

Yeah, then I'll be locked in. Clocked in. No streaming. Adderall energy drinks. Yeah. I'm honestly, like, so at peace and optimistic, and I'm gonna. I'm holding on to this feeling and nurturing it. I'm holding it tight to my bosom. It's, you know, suckling on the teeth and I'm just raising this little baby of optimism for as long as I can until at some point it'll crash, I'm sure. But for now, I'm holding onto it and I'm loving the vibes.

Tara (14:02)

It's gonna be a great year. I was writing about you, actually. I finished. I was finishing something. I'm not. I'm not supposed to talk about whatever I'm talking about. It's not talking about it, but the.

Trisha Paytas (14:11)

Things that you've talked about for, like, seven months every. I love when something leaks because then it's like. And Trish Craig tweets it and everyone. People go like, source, question mark. She said it. Yeah.

Tara (14:24)

So real. So real.

Moses (14:26)

Q and A.

Trisha Paytas (14:27)

You in the Q and A will say just about.

Tara (14:29)

I know, I know it's bad. You're right. I did say everything. So if you came to a show at one point, someone. The security in the video was like, you can't record. Like, we're telling people. I'm like, it's fine. Like, I know they're recording. Whatever. Sometimes I do just say anything. But I was writing about you, literally a couple days ago.

Trisha Paytas (14:46)

That's so exciting.

Tara (14:47)

And I was just like, wow. And we know. It was. It was. It was beautiful. It made me cry. I was like, oh, yeah.

Trisha Paytas (14:53)

I'm so excited. I 100% cry whenever that comes out.

Tara (14:56)

Yeah, the secret project. Yeah, it'll be out soon. And you know when you write about someone, then you're just like, oh, yeah, that's so sweet. Yeah, you're in the feels about it. So your break was good?

Trisha Paytas (15:08)

Yeah, really good. I was here. Yeah, I do. I did have one misstep, but that was technically. Technically 2025, so I'm still.

Tara (15:15)

Okay, what was the misstep?

Trisha Paytas (15:17)

I didn't go to Jake Weber's New Year's Eve party. Yeah, but. But the gag is I really tried. I really did make an effort to go. But what happened? Darian was my plush one. First of all, a really intense. Like you. The little invite said, like, you can get two. You can get one or two plus extra people. But then. Then you had to fill out the government names because they. They. Jake Weber said the security will be checking id, so make sure it's the government name.

Tara (15:42)

Wow.

Trisha Paytas (15:43)

And then I can only put one name. So I'm like, okay, easy, Darian. And then I tell Darian, I'm like, look, we're going to go to, like, a Jake Weber's New Year's Eve party. He goes, who's that? And I got to give him the whole lore. Yeah.

Tara (15:53)

The key. Okay.

Trisha Paytas (15:54)

He's like, not clocked into influencers, really, because his tick tock is all, like, architecture and, I don't know, animals, right? Yeah, a little Florida. Yep. And then he's like, well, my friends are coming into his, like, best friends from school who live, like in New York and Texas came in to surprise him. So he couldn't go. He's like, they're coming in to surprise me. I can't go. And I was like, it's okay. Like, I'll ask around. So I asked Harry Daniels. Harry Daniels was with Megan from Cat's Eye. He's like, what? Yeah, yup, yup. I was like, what are you doing for New Year's? He's like, oh, I'm gonna be with Megan. I was like, megan from Cat's Eye? He's like, yeah. I'm like, well, do you want to go to Jake Weber's party? He's like, we're going to wait around, but, like, if we have nothing else to do, like, maybe we'll go check it out. I was like, okay.

Tara (16:34)

Work very la.

Trisha Paytas (16:35)

And then Jimmy was with Dallas and I asked like, two of my other friends and no one could go. So I was like, damn.

Tara (16:40)

So you didn't go solo?

Trisha Paytas (16:41)

No.

Tara (16:43)

You know, you know the gang. You know Tara, I think you know Jake.

Trisha Paytas (16:48)

She has replied to one of my comments. Jake Weber is Oomphie Kenzie. Actually, she is the one that invited me. Shout out. Kenzie. I'm so sorry, girl. I let you know I was really excited to meet her, but damn, the universe was not my favorite. And I've been trying to say yes. That's my resolution, is do more things.

Tara (17:03)

Yes, ma'. Am. Jim Carrey movie tea.

Trisha Paytas (17:05)

Yes. But wasn't that about G. No, that was Bruce Almighty. Never mind. I was in yes.

Moses (17:10)

Man.

Tara (17:12)

I always talk about this. I Highland. It was across the street. The Renaissance Hotel Convention Center. Yeah. So you can see me in one of 2,000 people anyway. But yeah, that was my yes to everything.

Trisha Paytas (17:23)

But that was technically 2025, so I still feel like I'm on the right track.

Tara (17:26)

Was the party lit? I didn't see anything.

Trisha Paytas (17:28)

I feel like it was a little bit low key. But I have seen, you know the photographer Maximilian. Yeah, yeah, we love him.

Tara (17:34)

I have a cloud with Tari. Yummy. Set up next week.

Trisha Paytas (17:36)

So are you gonna be in the car and you want to.

Tara (17:38)

I love those videos. Yeah. She's like following up and I feel like she's gonna have a busy year because I saw a truck in Woodland Hills. It's a tar yummy tour. 2026. Did you see this? No, I didn't see my own eyes. It was on social media. But yeah, it was like black with pink letters. And I was like, see, I haven't.

Trisha Paytas (17:53)

Been going out much because how did I miss that in my own neighborhood?

Tara (17:56)

You haven't gone out to where you were at home? What were you doing?

Trisha Paytas (17:58)

I've been like, pretty much just at home in the gym and that's about it.

Tara (18:02)

So, yeah, I walked in early too. I started doing grapefruit. I'm having cake now, but I started having grapefruit about five days ago. I'm feeling good. I felt so much better this morning. That's why I went to Arby's. I was like, oh, I feel so skinny. I can go eat curly rice. I'm starting my Pilates back this week. We're gonna start walking again this week. Yeah, you gotta, like, lock in sometimes you feel a little better. Do you gonna see any movies?

Trisha Paytas (18:23)

Yeah, I saw Avatar the Housemaid was not good. Avatar. Just long. It was really, really long. I was like. I was feeling it.

Tara (18:33)

Really? You went by yourself or you won't dare? I don't know. I thought he was gone because I saw him. He was like, out doing something. Wasn't he back home?

Trisha Paytas (18:41)

Oh, yeah, he went back home for a few days. Like for Christmas. We saw Avatar, I think when he got. No, right before he left. Then we saw Marty supreme the day he got back. He's like, we need to see Marty Supreme.

Tara (18:51)

Oh, my God. He, like landed and then was like, let's go to a movie.

Trisha Paytas (18:54)

Literally. Yeah, he was like that excited to see Marty supreme shower. Yeah. Yeah, he did. It was like he landed in the morning, then we saw it at night. Okay.

Moses (19:01)

Yeah.

Tara (19:03)

You know, like, I don't love to shower in general. I do because I have to, but, like, I don't love it, but always from a plane. I think I need to shower.

Trisha Paytas (19:10)

Yeah, I'm the same. It's not like I don't love, like, the act. Like, I do it out of necessity every day, obviously, but it's not like I'm looking forward to it.

Tara (19:17)

Some people look forward to a shower.

Trisha Paytas (19:18)

Some people really do.

Tara (19:19)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (19:20)

You know, you get.

Moses (19:21)

I'm the opposite. If I don't get my shower again.

Tara (19:23)

He needs like 30 minutes to shower. He, like, he cannot get ready in five minutes. I get ready in five minutes and I'm always like, you get in there. You're gonna take 35.

Trisha Paytas (19:29)

We are the same. Darian's the same.

Tara (19:31)

Exactly.

Moses (19:31)

Crazy.

Trisha Paytas (19:32)

Yeah.

Tara (19:32)

I was like, let's just. And I couldn't be put together. 25 minutes. We had a baptism and I was like, my walk away and I was like, you know what? Like, I can get together. I put it together in like five minutes. I thought it's pretty decent.

Trisha Paytas (19:41)

Yeah.

Tara (19:41)

Yeah. I think it's possible. You see it?

Trisha Paytas (19:44)

Yeah. On your Instagram. I was heated for your Instagram stories.

Tara (19:46)

Thanks. Yeah, I was eating for yours last night and when I responded, it was said one minute ago. You posted. I was like, I got to mute it because, like, I do see stories so fast. Some people, I knew everybody because I just see them too quickly and I was like, oh, that was like, bad. But whatever.

Trisha Paytas (19:57)

I never even look when I like, I post and I never check like analytics stream. Yeah. Well, even in general, like whenever I post an Instagram story, I'm never checking to see like views or anything. I'm like a post and goes kind of girl. I like, never look back.

Tara (20:09)

That's a good way to be.

Trisha Paytas (20:10)

Yeah. I'm like, I don't care what the discourse is. That's just. It's out there in the universe.

Tara (20:15)

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Trisha Paytas (22:35)

Yeah, I have a lot actually. I'm trying to read. Go out, go do more things, be a little bit more social. Check emails and DMS more because I'm like two, three months behind emails and dms but I'm trying to stay on top of it more because I'd be missing things, right? Even I didn't even know you DM me last night so I'm not Off to a good start.

Tara (22:51)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (22:53)

I want to read 15 to 20 books. That's my goal.

Tara (22:56)

A month.

Trisha Paytas (22:57)

No, the year. Okay. That's pretty reasonable.

Tara (22:59)

Yeah, that's reasonable.

Trisha Paytas (23:00)

Yeah. And that's pretty much it, actually. Maybe they're not as many as I thought, but that's kind of a good amount.

Tara (23:06)

Right? I think Wednesday we should do our vision boards.

Trisha Paytas (23:09)

Yeah, it's a good idea.

Tara (23:10)

I'll pick up some poster board. We have a bunch of glue sticks over there. Why do we have so many glue sticks? We have 20 glue sticks in a package over there.

Moses (23:15)

Because you never. When she orders something, she never orders.

Tara (23:19)

What did I order those for?

Moses (23:21)

When we used to do ASMR, you know, we needed like one dentist tool, suddenly the box come out with 1,000. So yeah, Amazon will do that free.

Tara (23:30)

To you for sure. Yeah. We have so many glue sticks, so we have to get some magazines.

Trisha Paytas (23:34)

Oh, that reminds me. Also, my resolution is over consumpt less as well.

Tara (23:38)

Oh, so under. Yes. I am struggling with this one. I TikTok shop gets me.

Trisha Paytas (23:45)

Oh, I see.

Tara (23:46)

I got that pink Starbucks bear. What's on Starbucks? That was tick tock shop.

Moses (23:50)

But is it Starbucks 1 or just a bear?

Tara (23:53)

You know, just a bear with.

Moses (23:54)

Somebody was at our house and they realized me like, is this the Starbucks bear?

Tara (23:56)

Is that our cows asking about it?

Moses (24:00)

Who asked about someone I know? Yeah.

Tara (24:02)

Okay.

Moses (24:03)

And I was like, oh, I don't know if it's a Starbucks one or not.

Tara (24:06)

Oh, were they gagged by it? I have a second one. I just came, I ordered two. And that's my problem because I didn't know I wanted one. And then the second one showed up and I was like, when did I do this? Luckily just one and not four. Because sometimes those restaurant websites will be like, oh, you want four bowls? You get like four. And then it gives you like I've done that with glasses before. I think those Coca Cola cups, those red ones I ordered, I wanted like four of the Coca Cola ones. And literally from like a restaurant site and like a hundred came and I was like, oh my God, this is a while ago, but I have so many. Where'd those go?

Moses (24:35)

They're under the sink in the oh.

Tara (24:37)

You know where they're area. I like them. They're all good to use. But yeah, that's. That's my biggest one. I need to. Because it's not even about sending money. I just need to like repurpose. Buy things that are secondhand, that kind of thing. That is the goal. But is. Yeah, It's a struggle. It's a struggle. That's my biggest struggle. Even more than, like, food, that is my biggest struggle. For sure.

Trisha Paytas (24:55)

Yeah. I have also. I'm, like, very guilty of, like, a FOMO purchaser. Like, a limited edition, like a collab or whatever. I'm like, oh, well, I have to get this now, because what if I want it in the future? But now I'm like, girl, let it go. Like, I saw the Labu collection at Uniqlo and it was on clearance, which I was like, this is a sign of the times. Like, it was full stock. Like, literally 80 off. And I was like, well, sure, it's only 10 bucks, but I'm like, we'll actually wear it.

Tara (25:21)

Oh, it was like, clothes.

Trisha Paytas (25:22)

Clothes. Yeah.

Tara (25:24)

You love the unique clothes.

Trisha Paytas (25:25)

I do.

Tara (25:25)

Favorite, yeah. Santa Monica is where they have a store. Which store do you go to?

Trisha Paytas (25:29)

Woodland Hill.

Tara (25:30)

There's a Woodland Hills one where? At the mall.

Trisha Paytas (25:32)

Yeah.

Tara (25:33)

Moses. Did you know that? Love Uniqlo. That's his favorite. We used to go for his birthday every year, and it'd be like, at the Santa Monica Promenade. Why don't we go there? There's one closer. That's crazy. There's one in New York that's like, seven stories of Uniqlo. It's so big. It's right across from the skims on Fifth Avenue.

Trisha Paytas (25:47)

Oh, wow. Perfect.

Tara (25:48)

Yeah, it is.

Trisha Paytas (25:49)

I know.

Tara (25:49)

I thought. I was like, wow, that's kind of cool. Next New York trip, go to the Unique Loam. I didn't know that. So you didn't get it? You didn't get the little.

Trisha Paytas (25:55)

No, I stopped myself. I was like, I. I don't need this. So I feel like I'm on the right track with that, too.

Tara (26:01)

Yeah, it's hard. It's just a struggle every day, you know, you just gotta try and figure it out.

Trisha Paytas (26:08)

Yeah, I.

Tara (26:08)

You know, I don't have many resolutions this year. I think I did it pretty good in 2025. I think I practiced love. I think I was very active and ambitious. I would maybe like to run for Congress.

Trisha Paytas (26:21)

Okay.

Tara (26:22)

Yeah, I think so. I think I can do at least a representative, like a House of Representative thing.

Trisha Paytas (26:28)

Okay.

Tara (26:28)

We get two here in California. Or is there multiple? Because we're a bigger state? There's one where you get two. Either a senator or a House of Representatives.

Trisha Paytas (26:35)

I think it's. Yes. How many?

Moses (26:37)

It's pretty big. That's why I think we had Pelosi. And another one, we had two.

Tara (26:42)

So two senators per state. How many representatives.

Trisha Paytas (26:45)

California has 52.

Tara (26:46)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (26:47)

Seats in the House of Representatives.

Tara (26:49)

Okay. That's what I want. I think I want that one.

Trisha Paytas (26:51)

Okay. Yeah. One out of 52. I feel like it's pretty doable, Right.

Tara (26:54)

I wonder. I do have to look into this and I'm being so serious about it because I do have to look into it. Like how you have to wait till someone gives up their seat. Is there a re. Election every year?

Trisha Paytas (27:03)

I think they have to. The, The. What is it called?

Tara (27:09)

The justice system.

Trisha Paytas (27:10)

The one where they have to die. There's that.

Moses (27:13)

That's a Supreme Court.

Tara (27:16)

Oh, my gosh.

Trisha Paytas (27:17)

But I feel like for House of Representatives, there's an election, Right?

Tara (27:21)

Yes. And I think I'm serious. I think I'm going to try and run. I just got to look into it more. I haven't fully looked into it yet. That was my resolution. So I'm starting today. But I. I think it's. I think it's doable. You have to be 25 or something. I think is the age 25.

Trisha Paytas (27:34)

You're right about that.

Tara (27:35)

Yeah. I kind of know about this.

Trisha Paytas (27:37)

A citizen for seven years. Done that. Yeah.

Tara (27:43)

Do you need a college education?

Trisha Paytas (27:44)

It doesn't say that. No.

Tara (27:46)

I don't think you do. Just the life of hard knocks over here.

Moses (27:49)

Yeah. I mean, Schwarzenegger was the governor. I don't know what that is.

Trisha Paytas (27:53)

True.

Moses (27:53)

He went to college.

Tara (27:54)

Who's our governor right now? Gavin Newsom.

Trisha Paytas (27:57)

Yes.

Tara (27:58)

I could write a good friend.

Trisha Paytas (28:00)

Okay. Yeah. Citizen. An inhabitant of the state, which you are as well. You hit all the requirements. There's only three.

Tara (28:06)

When does the next election? Because this is my goal and I think it's my own goal I need to achieve this year. And I'm so serious.

Trisha Paytas (28:14)

2026. November 3rd, 2026.

Tara (28:17)

Okay. So I need to start campaigning.

Moses (28:18)

Yes.

Trisha Paytas (28:19)

Yes.

Tara (28:20)

Okay. I think I can do it because, like, I can fund it myself. Right. You just have to do a little campaign.

Trisha Paytas (28:26)

Yeah.

Moses (28:27)

Because most of the funding is to get out there. It's like social media commercials, you know, to get to people. So we'll shoot our own part. I mean, again, that's why Schwarzenegger.

Tara (28:37)

We have the platform. You're right.

Moses (28:39)

One is I. I don't know if.

Tara (28:42)

You'Re ever supposed to talk about what you're doing for the year. But that's my goal. That's my thing. So I think. I think I'm gonna try. Okay. I'll get on this. And we had the platform to do it.

Trisha Paytas (28:51)

Yeah.

Tara (28:52)

And you get to go to, like, address the state of the union. Like, you get to go to the country and like, be like, we need to make a change. You can bright bills.

Trisha Paytas (29:00)

Yeah.

Tara (29:01)

I think this is what I want to do. Multiple reasons, multiple reasons. So many things I would love to do. I really want to do law that makes it illegal to do adult work if you're not 25.

Trisha Paytas (29:14)

Oh, that actually is a good idea.

Tara (29:15)

You know, I think, like, okay, even alcohol, like, you. You have to be 25 to promote it. Like, obviously you can drink alcohol at 21, but you have to be at least 25 to promote. And I was thinking about that with, like, the of it all. I was just like, there's. There's an influencer who just turned 18.

Trisha Paytas (29:30)

Yeah.

Tara (29:31)

You know about this.

Trisha Paytas (29:31)

Okay. Yeah.

Tara (29:32)

And she. She made what, $3 million in the first day?

Trisha Paytas (29:37)

Yeah, she made Piper Raquel. That's who you're talking about. Yeah. She made 2.9 million after one day.

Tara (29:43)

On of which my first initial thought is, like, so disgusting. Not on her, but like, all these people who are like, oh, this girl. Knowing she's like, just that. That the term I hate so much that freshly 18, like, it's so, so gross on those people. Also, like, I don't like, at 18. Like, everyone makes, like, just decisions that, like, they probably wouldn't make at 25 or 30. And not to say everybody, but I know a lot of. There's a lot of adult film or adult stars that I follow now that like, wish they could, like, scrub everything. I think Lana Rhodes is a big advocate about, like, wishing she didn't put stuff out there. And she's like one of the biggest obvious. And it's just like. Like a lot of people, like, good for them. And in a way, good for them. Yes. That is like a lot of money, but, like, at what cost? And we see so many, like, high side rates of people who've done adult work, like, later on in life, like sex work and stuff like that. So, like, and she's been an influencer for a while, like, when she was like a child too. And so the fact that so many people are like, so quickly to sign up one, it's like a problem with, like, people consuming this work. Like, you all are like, freaks. And then also too for like, her. And I just was like. And it's not just her. I mean, obviously it's a big one that we heard about. Obviously, like, Daniel girl, Is that her name? Bhad Bhabie?

Trisha Paytas (30:56)

Yeah.

Tara (30:56)

Like, same thing happened with her, like, the day she turned 18 and I was just like, like I just think it's like, I don't know how it's like legal and I think. And I saw a lot of the comments say this about being like 18 shouldn't be like teens never be in, in the same sentence as adult. You know what I mean? Like, adult is 18, but it should be, it really should be 20. But especially like making decisions and stuff like that. Like, like 25, if that's the age that you can promote alcohol, like that should be the age you can start doing like sex work and stuff like that. It's just, it made me like so upset. And then I was like. And then just other things that happen in the world, right? You're like, get so upset and you're just like, oh, we can't do anything. And then I was like, well, we could actually. If I like, if you run for Congress.

Trisha Paytas (31:34)

Yeah.

Tara (31:34)

Like, you know, because that's the way you do it. That's how I think there's stupider people in Congress than me. You know what I mean? Yeah, you clocked. You know, I feel like at least I have like the passion for it and like, yeah, I think these old men and old women in there, they're like not caring about this kind of stuff. They're caring about like the bull, you know what I mean? Like starting wars and stuff. It's like, how about we start with the war here in America on ourselves, you know what I mean? We need to fix that. So that's my goal anyways. Not to be a downer right away. But I was just like, it made me so sad and upset and then I'm like, there's nothing we can do about this, but there is something we can do about it. And I love it.

Moses (32:09)

And now kind of downer. It's a sense of hope opened.

Tara (32:12)

Yeah, I think there's a hope. January 1st. California has banned plastic bags everywhere. We love that. So good. We're making progress, you know, and I love, I love to see that.

Moses (32:24)

So would you. Australia banned social media for kids under 16, 15.

Tara (32:30)

What does that mean? They banned it. How do they know you have to.

Moses (32:33)

Register to have social media?

Tara (32:35)

Yeah, they just lie go on their parents account either.

Moses (32:39)

I mean, if they work hard to get around it, you can always get around things.

Tara (32:42)

But people do that now. Like I feel like there's kids, you're supposed to be 13 to be on YouTube and what, there's like 5 year olds on there. You know what I mean? I feel like people require, I mean I don't hate it. It should be more of a parent thing though, right? I don't know. I don't hate it because I think they do try. Even Tick tock tries to be like no one under 13, but then there's like all these kids on there. I don't hate it, but I do love, I do love social media. So I don't know. But yeah, for kids for sure. Especially like our kids. I mean, I would definitely be like maybe 20, they can get on it. If I had a choice in it. I'd probably be that parent that'd be like, no social media under my roof. You know what I mean? Like, if you want, if you want Instagram, you gotta go. I don't know. I want to kick them out either.

Moses (33:21)

North and Kim, they had an account together for a while now, but now she has her own or something like that.

Tara (33:28)

I don't know. It's also like, it's more. I don't really care, obviously. It's like not caring, but it's just like. Yeah, being on social media is one thing, but having access to access, like messages with people sounds a little dubious. That's where kids seem to get in trouble. Yeah. And not because of the kids. Because of weirdos out there that are pretending.

Moses (33:45)

Also happens on video games. And true. Like every forum that you have conversations.

Tara (33:52)

Yeah, Yeah. I don't like that. But that is scary. That is the world we live in.

Trisha Paytas (33:57)

Until you're in the House, Representative.

Tara (33:59)

I can't wait. I. I like feel like I have a shot. Like 52 people. Yeah, I feel like I have a shot.

Trisha Paytas (34:05)

Yeah. Because how many people are probably going to run? I feel like not that many. Like maybe 60. So you have a good shot.

Tara (34:11)

Yes. And the campaigns always target people who are our demographic. 18, 24. The vote or die bring them back. You know what I mean? MTV is gone, but not the voter die. It's alive. I really do think I could do this. I meet a lot of people in that age bracket and California really needs someone like me. Yeah, I think, I think it's just like, it could be good. California could be good. It's like maybe that's your slogan.

Moses (34:36)

It can be good.

Trisha Paytas (34:37)

California can be good.

Tara (34:39)

It could be good.

Moses (34:39)

It could be good.

Tara (34:41)

That's a good one. You're absolutely right. Call Spencer Pratt. I know he'd be down. Like, he could be my co runner if I ever go for governor or something. I don't know. But we're starting small anyways. That's my, that's my resolution. How about you, babe? Got a resolution over there?

Moses (34:53)

Oh, yeah, I got my buttons.

Tara (34:56)

Oh, gosh. I know this is some weird thing that you're gonna say, and I love it. Wait, first of all, I'm just saying. I'm just prefacing all this when people say. This is because, like, I. We're together 247 for the past two weeks. I've never heard you talk about buttons. That's why I was like, oh God, I know it's gonna be something weird. Cause he's so normal in everyday life. So I know it's something weird when he starts talking about something like this and he hides.

Moses (35:20)

Freak, freak.

Trisha Paytas (35:20)

The freak. To get. Freak it.

Tara (35:22)

Yes, that's.

Moses (35:24)

What do you mean you don't have your buttons for 2026?

Tara (35:27)

What is it?

Moses (35:28)

Hey, I just have a button for each day. So you know, like, then you pull them out to keep track of time. Like every day is important. So I want to make sure I have a button for each day.

Tara (35:36)

But do you take it out? How do you know it's. How do you keep track of the importance? Or you just.

Moses (35:39)

Look, I haven't decided fully how I'm gonna go about it, and I also don't want to. Did you see it, think about it, or disclose it? Either.

Tara (35:46)

Oh, okay. Well, you don't have to. Where do you see it?

Moses (35:51)

No, I mean, that's. That's the. This woman on TikTok, she. She did that. And people were so curious in her comments about what you can do with the buttons, how does it work? She's like, I don't really want to answer mentality. Yeah. And I was like, this is the mentality. We're walking into 2026. Like, I don't want to explain it. I don't think I need to figure it out fully, but I'm doing.

Tara (36:14)

She just wanted to show it.

Moses (36:15)

Yeah. She was like, that's how far she got. I have a button for each day and that's what I'm doing.

Tara (36:20)

So she just wanted to share that, but didn't want to go further into detail.

Moses (36:23)

Yeah. And everyone in the comments were pressing and she was just. No, I didn't.

Trisha Paytas (36:27)

I kind of like that.

Moses (36:28)

Like, go away.

Tara (36:29)

I would like that. If she didn't share on social media, why even make it in the first place? Just keep those buttons to yourself.

Moses (36:34)

Like, that's what I mean. Even social media is like, it's up to me how I treat my social media. Okay, my comment section.

Trisha Paytas (36:42)

Yeah.

Moses (36:43)

So, yeah, get your buttons.

Trisha Paytas (36:44)

I Love that.

Tara (36:45)

I think I saw Brittany Broski say that for her resolution too. I think she said, I'm just gonna say no and not explain myself in 2020.

Trisha Paytas (36:51)

Yeah. No is a complete sentence. Sentence.

Tara (36:54)

That is what the common sense. Wow. You're on it.

Trisha Paytas (36:55)

Yep.

Tara (36:56)

You're on that Gen Z top. I like that. I like not having to explain yourself.

Trisha Paytas (37:00)

Yeah. Because I feel like you explain yourself and you kind of talk yourself into problems that weirdly into Hot Topic. But that happened with the Duffer brothers explaining Stranger Things.

Tara (37:10)

Duffer Brothers. Okay.

Trisha Paytas (37:14)

This is kind of my whole break with Stranger Things, so I was. I was in charge of covering it.

Tara (37:18)

Oh, for your other job?

Trisha Paytas (37:20)

Yeah, for my other job. Yep. I was on Stranger Things. Judy.

Moses (37:22)

Which.

Tara (37:23)

How'd you feel about it?

Trisha Paytas (37:24)

I'm not a Stranger Things stand. Like, I'm not that invested. I'm a cat. I'm a Stranger Things. Casual, I suppose. But I thought that finale was, like, kind of rough. Spoiler alert for, yeah, serious finale of Stranger Things. But basically, spoilers are coming.

Tara (37:40)

Spoilers are coming. Get out now. Spoiler alert 2.

Moses (37:46)

1.

Tara (37:46)

Spoiler warning.

Trisha Paytas (37:48)

There was just, like, a ton of plot holes, a lot of things that didn't make sense. And the writing weirdly got so wacky. Like, the. It was very nonsensical, and it was really odd because the show is typically, like, very tight and written, very strong. And there's a whole conspiracy right now that one of the Duffer brothers who created the show, he recently got divorced after season four, and people think his ex wife was the one who was, like, really helping keeping things going in the writer's room. And now that she's gone. That's why this past season was kind of a mess, because it got really bad fan reviews, and there's been so many plot holes. And the Duffer Brothers got asked, they did, like, a press tour after the finale to, like, do a little recap, and everything they said just made the whole situation worse. So they got basically in the finale, how it ends Again, spoiler alert. Jimmy played the song, but in the end, you don't. I feel like you only know Eddie. Like, do you remember anyone else? Okay, here's the. Let me do it. I'm gonna summarize it in, like, the Trishian way. Okay, so Noah Schnapp, he comes out as gay. His character comes out as gay to the whole town. And that Vecna was. Honestly, he was stealing those kids. He was in the kids. But he's also homophobic because he was threatening Noah Schnapp and he's like, girl, if they find out you're gay, gay, they're gonna leave you and you're gonna have no friends. And he was, like, living in fear. So he was, like, using that against him. Yeah. Is messed up. Yeah.

Tara (39:25)

Warfare too, there. Okay, I love that. Was he talking to him? The back in talks?

Trisha Paytas (39:29)

Yes, in his mind. In the mind. They were going back and forth because Will is. Noah Schnapp is, like, connected to Vecna. Like, they keep. They can be in each other's minds, basically.

Tara (39:40)

Do you think they made him gay to, like, save his reputation? Because, like, everyone hates him?

Trisha Paytas (39:43)

Well, he was gay since, like, season one.

Tara (39:46)

The character. The person.

Trisha Paytas (39:47)

The character. And the person as well.

Tara (39:50)

He is. Well, that changes. Doesn't that change some things?

Trisha Paytas (39:53)

Well, he's been gay, but also he was canceled, so. Yeah, it doesn't.

Tara (39:57)

Oh, he's been gay in the show since the beginning.

Trisha Paytas (39:58)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's been, like, hinted at and then. Yeah, and that was the whole other thing too, because people wanted Noah Schnapp to date the main guy, Mike, you know, the main kid. The tall one from Finn Wolfhard.

Tara (40:12)

Yes, yes.

Trisha Paytas (40:13)

So people, buyers, the Violet, the. They were shipping those two. And then the. The writers, like, would tease them, but then they didn't. Didn't make them a thing. So all those hands were really pissed about that.

Tara (40:22)

And then queer baiting, they would say.

Trisha Paytas (40:24)

Yes, exactly. A little queer baiting. And then Vex. Vecna was defeated really, really easily. Like, all of a sudden, within, like 15, it. Will's Noah Schnapps coming out scene was longer than the final battle, like, of them defeating Vecna, which, like, what? Isn't that a little crazy?

Tara (40:42)

Yes. It sounds like maybe they were just tired. Maybe they just gave up. They're just like, it's the end of this.

Trisha Paytas (40:46)

Yeah. And here it is.

Tara (40:47)

But that happens a lot, right? Like, I. I think. I can't think of one now, but, like, there's. There's so many movies you watch where the villains, like, so big and bad and, like, no one can destroy them. And then they like. It's kind of the end of Game of Thrones, right? Where, like, and her brother, they're just, like, got like, pummeled by rocks. I'm like, that's it. Like, that's all it took everything else, you know, so it sounds the same kind of thing, right?

Trisha Paytas (41:07)

They're just kind of like, yeah, so.

Tara (41:09)

How did he die back then? They just blew at him.

Trisha Paytas (41:11)

So 11 millie bobby brown came in and she was telepathically. Like, she got a little bit more powerful. Noah Schnapp got into his mind and broke off one of Vecna's arms as he was about to kill Millie Bobby Brown. And then Millie Bobby Brown used her telekinesis to throw him into the. The tooth of the Mind Flayer. Because they were fighting in the mouth slash stomach of the Mind Flayer, which was just a cave. It was a cave. There was sand. It was kind of odd. It was, like, really weird. There was no Demogorgon, so that everyone was saying, well, where are the Demogorgons and everything else? And then their expl. So they got asked all these questions about all these plot holes. Oh, also, Millie Bobby Brown sacrificed herself at the end to destroy the Upside down because they were, like, impregnating women with, like, blood. Vecna's blood or whatever.

Tara (41:55)

Okay, hand me tales.

Trisha Paytas (41:56)

It is. That's crazy to create, like, superhuman babies. Like, more Elevens.

Tara (42:01)

And then was she the baby of Vna?

Trisha Paytas (42:03)

Like, the blood? Yeah, she has Vecna's blood in her.

Tara (42:06)

Oh, so they're related.

Trisha Paytas (42:07)

Yeah, so, yeah. So she's like, the only way that we could stop this is if I, you know, sacrifice myself and I go down with the Upside Down.

Moses (42:16)

So.

Trisha Paytas (42:16)

But then it was ambiguous where they, like, said, maybe she didn't die after all. Like, maybe she escaped. So they left it up to the viewers to decide if they think Millie Bobby Brown is alive or not. Want, whatever. But they got asked about all those plot holes, and then for the Demogorgons, they said mainly it's just that Vecna was not expecting the sneak attack on his home turf. They're here, they're there somewhere. He doesn't need his little ant army to attack girl. What? That makes literally no sense because the fans were like, oh, well, maybe the big beast, the mind flare, like the Demogorgons got absorbed to make that make his body. Which was a better theory than what they said because it makes no sense, because Vecna was in everyone's mind. So he knew the plan. He couldn't have been surprised.

Tara (42:57)

Maybe they didn't know. Maybe they didn't piece it together.

Trisha Paytas (42:59)

They. I think the writers are, like, didn't think this all the way through. And then that's why the fans are, like, coming up with these questions and they can't give any sort of, like, explanation because they also, all the kids, like, shot soldiers, like, literally assassinated soldiers, because those they were in a shootout with soldiers and killed. So Many. And then even though the army caught them at the end, like, they were let go and able to be free despite. Like, you would think there'd be. That's a war crime, I would think. You can't just kill.

Tara (43:27)

But this is in that upside down world. That's not right.

Trisha Paytas (43:29)

This is in the. In Hawkins.

Tara (43:30)

What kind of soldiers are they have at Hawkins? I don't understand why there's just a military there at the school.

Trisha Paytas (43:36)

Because. Yeah, they're trying to get into the upside down to make those kids, to make those superpowers.

Tara (43:42)

The military is.

Trisha Paytas (43:42)

Yeah.

Moses (43:43)

The government always.

Trisha Paytas (43:44)

It's always.

Moses (43:45)

Yeah. If there's any opportunity to create weapons or superhumans, government always try to get in there. Yeah.

Tara (43:52)

All right.

Trisha Paytas (43:53)

And they got asked, like, why did the military just let everyone go after they killed so many soldiers? And the writers, the Duffer Brothers, said, I suppose there's not much else to do. There's no 11 to chase down anymore. My guess is they sort of just dismantled operations and left the town. And then they got asked about Noah Schnapp because he's connected to Vecna. Like, if Vecna feels pain. Noah Schnapp is supposed to feel pain. So they got asked about that in the final battle and they just said, we aren't showing him. When the Mind Flayer is being attacked, when he's getting decapitated, the Mind Flayer is dead. So it has disconnected from him and Vecna. So everything happened, they say, like, I guess it happened off camera. I'm not sure. And everyone's like, but you created the.

Moses (44:31)

Show, so, like, there's nothing off camera.

Trisha Paytas (44:33)

Yeah. Like, so how would you get. Why are you guessing you wrote it?

Tara (44:37)

Because I just, I. I relate to Duffer Brothers on this one.

Trisha Paytas (44:40)

I knew, I knew if anyone was going to be pro Duffer Brothers, it was going to be.

Tara (44:45)

In my own memoir. I get stuff confused. I'm always like, wait, what? I don't know what happened. Like, you don't know? How are you supposed to know? First of all, it's a made up world. People, like, they don't. They just made. Like everything you said sounded like chemistry or hieroglyphics or something to me. Like some equation, I don't know, photosynthesis. Like, it sounded so crazy what you just said. There's no way anyone can keep that straight. Except if you're like, yeah. If you're like a nerd about the show and you're just like, but wait a minute. The Demogorgons always defend The Voldemort, you know, like, it's always whatever, you know, it's just like, how would they expect anyone to keep straight, you know, Game of Thrones, too? Like, I remember. That's only I can compare it to. Because that's the only kind of, like, show I kind of knew a little bit about. But same thing. Remember, I followed every Game of Thrones episode religiously. And the last. The last season, you're just like those people that were, like, dead all of a sudden, that were like, with the blue eyes. And you're like, what the. No one knows.

Moses (45:34)

Is there a show that's not based on a book that's already written, that had a good finale? Like, there doesn't exist. Because when they never. When they write a show, they just, like, they run after their tail. To finish every season, there's no time to even think about. Because they have to write each season, each episode.

Tara (45:49)

Lost is a great example, too. We loved Lost. But that last season, like, I think.

Moses (45:54)

All of those shows just lower your expectations. You're not gonna get. You're not gonna get a finale that will satisfy you because it doesn't exist. There is no resolution to those type of shows, and that's why they're so long. Could you just keep.

Tara (46:09)

You're right. Can you think of one good, good conclusion? Series finale.

Trisha Paytas (46:14)

One good series maybe that's not based.

Moses (46:16)

On a book that's already written.

Trisha Paytas (46:17)

Not based on a book. Probably like, maybe like a Hannah Montana or something. That was because she, like, retired from being Hannah.

Moses (46:25)

That's an easy. Everyone can retire. But can I get. Retire and then.

Tara (46:28)

Yeah, right.

Trisha Paytas (46:29)

Like that.

Moses (46:30)

Moving to Florida. Goodbye.

Trisha Paytas (46:32)

Yeah, maybe like an Ugly Betty. What happened to her at the end? Oh, no, I forgot.

Tara (46:36)

But it's probably something not good. Probably nothing great. I hated the end of Desperate Housewives. Mike died. They shot him. I'm like, what the hell is this? Like, for no reason. Yeah, they all sucked. Lost, we loved that. Sucked so much. The ending. I was like, okay, they're all dead. What?

Trisha Paytas (46:53)

Like, yeah, it is kind of giving one of those, like, a loss to Game of Thrones. And then Matt Duffer, one half the Duffer brothers, said that he had the flu and he shouldn't have done all those interviews. And he said, cut him some slack was the exact quote.

Tara (47:06)

I love it.

Trisha Paytas (47:07)

Yeah, it is very true. I kind of had a feeling because.

Tara (47:10)

People need to just, like, ch. Like you said, like, also, like, it's not real. Who cares? It's over. Take it for what it is. Like, Enjoy those first four seasons that you love. Why does everything have to be like, what? Like, it's fine. I'm sure it sucks.

Moses (47:23)

They think, oh, we're gonna celebrate the finale. It's gonna be big. It's gonna be huge. And then you end up just.

Tara (47:28)

You always let down, like you said. You're right. There is no perfect ending for a show that you love because you're just pissed that the show ended. You're just like, well, what the hell is this?

Trisha Paytas (47:35)

I guess that's true. Yeah.

Moses (47:37)

So to keep the show going, you create a path that has no ending. You know, so just you have another episode, another season and another. So it's not like it designed to end. So when you decide to end it, it's gonna be horrible because the show didn't lead up to that end. It's not like, I don't know. That'd be interesting to see with Pluribus because it's like, it's not even built in a way of, like, one season.

Trisha Paytas (47:59)

Yeah.

Moses (48:00)

It's built, like, already as a preparation for the next season.

Tara (48:04)

I've never seen that show, but it is the best. Because it's, like, not whatever, but, like, White Lotus is very. It's just like. There's not, like every season is a different season.

Trisha Paytas (48:11)

Yeah. An anthology or something. Yeah.

Tara (48:12)

Is there the shows that are like that? Is that Pluris show like that?

Trisha Paytas (48:15)

It's like American Horror Stories, like an anthology where, like, every season is like a new cast, new theme, new characters.

Tara (48:22)

That seems good, too, because then everyone's happy. You get, like, a resolution. You have to wait for the new season.

Moses (48:26)

It seems like even Bridgeton, like, there's no resolution. You just enjoy being in that place.

Tara (48:33)

Yes. That's a touchy subject, too, because Bridgeton, they keep losing. In theory. Bridgerton family is supposed to be growing as the books do. Right. The family grows. You see everyone all happy. The Duke is there and Kate is there and everyone like. But now we have seen that Bridgerton is getting smaller. The family.

Trisha Paytas (48:50)

Yeah.

Tara (48:50)

Which I, you know, I love Bridgerton. And I cannot wait for the new season. It's this month, right? It's this month.

Trisha Paytas (48:54)

Yeah. It's in, like, two weeks, I think.

Tara (48:56)

So excited. And I love Benedict. I love it. I'm excited. You know Cho Chang? Is that her name from Harry Potter?

Trisha Paytas (49:02)

Yeah.

Tara (49:02)

She is in this as she.

Trisha Paytas (49:04)

The lead.

Tara (49:05)

She's not the lead. She's the mom of the lead, which I looked at for age. She's 30, like, 39. Benedict is, like, 39. I was like, why? Is she the ones? Yeah, I know. She might be the lead. Yeah. But she's the mom. Which is. Which is crazy because I remember her as, like, we were all like, little kids, but, like, little girl. And she's like the mom. I guess the lead is she's 2. That she was 27, so she's 39. So she's 12 years older. I guess she's like the wicked stepmom. The whole Cinderella thing. Yeah, but that's like.

Trisha Paytas (49:31)

I mean, I guess same movie as, like, Robert Pattinson. Like, that was his Goblet of Fire, so.

Tara (49:36)

Yes.

Trisha Paytas (49:37)

That would be like Robert Pattinson being Benedict's dad.

Tara (49:39)

Yes.

Trisha Paytas (49:40)

That's crazy.

Tara (49:40)

Yeah, it's crazy. Especially because Benedict's like, 39.

Trisha Paytas (49:42)

Yeah.

Tara (49:42)

You're like, okay, like, what? But yeah, they're not returning. Who's the one that I love? I love her so much, and I forgot her name. She played Kate in season two.

Trisha Paytas (49:51)

Simone. Ashley.

Tara (49:52)

Simone Ashley. Yeah. She's, like, supposedly not supposed to be coming back back. I think Jonathan Bailey is, but she's not.

Trisha Paytas (49:58)

Yeah, that's what I heard, too.

Tara (49:59)

Which I'm like, no, you can't have. You can't have Anthony come back without Kate because they wrote off the first girl. What's her name?

Trisha Paytas (50:05)

Penelope. I think in real life, Daphne was right.

Tara (50:11)

Yeah, Daphne. Like, they didn't let her come back because the Duke didn't want to come back.

Trisha Paytas (50:15)

Phoebe. Phoebe did never.

Tara (50:17)

Yeah, so she didn't get to come back because her counterpart didn't want to come back. So I don't know what's happening over there. Guess I need to give him a pay raise or something.

Trisha Paytas (50:25)

Something.

Moses (50:25)

Yeah.

Tara (50:26)

So good. I don't know. I'm sad that it's getting like, they get.

Trisha Paytas (50:30)

Like. Once you become a lead, you become. You get more opportunities, maybe. I know that happened to Renee, who was the lead in season one. Yeah. Like, he got movie offers, like, after season one.

Tara (50:43)

I get it. But you, like, I feel like you should go. Go back at least a little bit to the show, too, because that made you popular. And it's still very popular. It's not like the show's dying. It's like, you should. Like, if he came back for this season, people would be so excited because season one, the two leads were amazing. And then you just never saw them again. And you're just like, oh, he has a new movie with Halle Bailey. And I just told Mose I want to see that. When we saw. What do we see? Zootopia. No, we saw. Oh, we saw Wicked again. And they had that preview. They're, like, in Italy.

Trisha Paytas (51:09)

Yeah, I saw the preview for it.

Tara (51:10)

I love movies like that. I love it. And I'm so glad he's back. Back. He was very handsome. I could see. I could see. I guess I could see that. But, like, you should. They should also have a clause where you make them come back.

Trisha Paytas (51:20)

I would think, too. I guess through season one, it kind of makes sense because I. It was. I don't know, maybe they were a little unsure, but now you would think.

Tara (51:27)

Like, you have to stick around. I think you should want to, too. You know, that loyalty of it all.

Trisha Paytas (51:32)

Yeah.

Tara (51:33)

Like me going to Arby's Day. I wasn't sponsored, but I. I give loyalty.

Trisha Paytas (51:38)

I was feeling very Lady Whistledown the other day, actually, because.

Tara (51:41)

Love your transition, honestly.

Trisha Paytas (51:43)

Yeah. And I really was just feeling very Nicola because I was covering. I was the only one in Georgia et on New Year's Day, which is, like, so funny. The concept of me, like, being, you know, the source of news is.

Tara (51:56)

What were you posting on New Year's Day?

Trisha Paytas (51:57)

A lot of Stranger Things because the finale was the night before.

Tara (51:59)

But also, people really were into it.

Trisha Paytas (52:01)

Yeah.

Tara (52:02)

They didn't love it, but they were into it. Yeah. Okay.

Trisha Paytas (52:05)

But I also covered Alex Earl with Tom Brady because that was also on New Year's Eve.

Tara (52:11)

Did you break it? Were you the one who got that video?

Trisha Paytas (52:12)

TMZ was the first, but there was people. There was a girl at the. In St. Barts where they were partying, that was recording them and then posted it to her Instagram story. She tagged TMZ in, like, People magazine, which I thought she was like. I'm like, first of all, girl, big mistake, because you could have sold that. But regardless.

Tara (52:33)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (52:34)

I always think about that. I'm like, damn. Like, if you just get a paparazzi photo, like, Kim Kardashian, like, at the Commons, like, doing nothing, you can just sell it for, like, a thousand dollars at least. Yeah. Anyway, we got that video after, too, so TMZ broke it, but I got it up pretty quick. And that I was giving Lady Whistledown down in the caption.

Tara (52:53)

I was like, what was it?

Trisha Paytas (52:55)

Alex was seen giggling and throwing her, tossing her hair back as she whispered into Tom's ear. She grabbed onto his bulging bicep as he. He wrapped his arm around her waist. Because I. I had nothing really to say. So I was. I was literally just describing the video with, like, beautiful verbiage and just, like, wonderful adjectives. I took the quill. The quill. Yep. The quill in the ink I took to my Instagram caption. I was like, oh, yeah, I was really selling.

Tara (53:22)

Were you into it, or were you, like, into this video? Or were you just like.

Trisha Paytas (53:24)

No, I. I do not like Tom Brady. He gives me bad vibes. That Tom Brady. Yeah. And also, like. Like, the personality. No.

Tara (53:31)

Oh, I don't know. That personality he gives. Ventriloquist.

Trisha Paytas (53:34)

Yeah, he gives. He just gives me weird vibes. He's, like, really, really conservative. And I know he cloned his dog and everything I hear about him, I'm like, he gives me, like, the skeevies a little bit. Like, he. I don't know. He rubs me the wrong way. And everyone on Tick Tock was like, acting as if Alex Earl is, like, you know, so lucky that she was. And I'm like, I think he's lucky.

Tara (53:55)

No.

Trisha Paytas (53:56)

To have Alex Earl.

Tara (53:58)

Yeah. I was thinking, too. I'm. He's giving geriatric. So when I thought, okay, like, my. My thought is like, to me, Alex Earl is, like, the prize and the mvp. Right. She is like, trophy. And also, like, the player. Like, she's like. So she really can get anybody.

Trisha Paytas (54:12)

So too, an actor and really, anyone.

Tara (54:14)

Anyone. Literally a billionaire. Like, whatever. Like. Like Tom Brady. I know he's loved, but ancient.

Trisha Paytas (54:23)

48. She's 25.

Tara (54:25)

Yeah. And I think, like, okay, get those relationships, you know? Right. The younger girl. What? I just. I just. Nope. I don't like it. But I think she can only because I think she can do better. But, hey, if you. If you. Like a girl. My head was thinking, like, oh, she went from, like, she had that NFL player.

Trisha Paytas (54:42)

Yeah.

Tara (54:43)

So maybe Tom Brady's considered, like, the NFL player.

Trisha Paytas (54:45)

He's, like, the top he was at one point.

Tara (54:48)

Right. He has, like, Super Bowls.

Trisha Paytas (54:49)

Yeah.

Tara (54:50)

So maybe she thought, like, I don't know how the. The relationship who ended. What. But maybe she thought, well, this is the best of the best, you know?

Trisha Paytas (54:58)

Yeah. Like, he is a really famous football player.

Tara (55:00)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (55:01)

But I feel like there's got to be better ones out there, right?

Tara (55:04)

Can't name one. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (55:06)

But I'm sure someone can.

Tara (55:07)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (55:07)

Someone who's in that world.

Tara (55:09)

But, you know, I'm glad that, you know, she likes athletes, but I definitely think you can do better, girl.

Trisha Paytas (55:13)

Yeah.

Tara (55:14)

There has to be a superstar. Remember back in the day, there was, like, Johnny Mansfield. Does that sound right? Johnny Mans.

Trisha Paytas (55:23)

What? That sounds like a killer or something.

Moses (55:25)

I've heard the name, but no Johnny Mansfield.

Tara (55:27)

Am I, like, making that up. Manville. Donnie Mansville. He was, like, on the Cleveland Browns, and it was like a huge deal because he was like, 20 and he had, like, a couple. He got like $100 million, but then he, like, like, flopped. Johnny Manziel.

Trisha Paytas (55:41)

Johnny Manziel.

Tara (55:42)

That's his name. Oh, my God. I was like, what? Because I had a jersey and everything. Yeah, he was like the football player. And he, like, flopped. He got paid, like, $100 million, like, at 20 to be in the NFL, and then he, like, now he's, like, nowhere to be found. He, like, flopped out of it.

Trisha Paytas (55:54)

That's kind of iconic.

Tara (55:55)

Yeah. No, no, the best. I. God, you hear about athletes all the time getting, like 30 million dollar contracts. My dad will always tell me, because he's so into sports, he's like, oh, this person got signed for 30 million. I sit in the bench the whole year. And I was like, that's. That's amazing. Like, I want. I need a job like that where they give me 40 million to just sit. Like, that's crazy. Anyways, I think, you know, always happy for her. There's no hate for me towards Alexa. I love her. But definitely, girl, you can get yourself a billionaire or something. I don't know. Get yourself. Not him. A younger football player.

Trisha Paytas (56:24)

Someone, like, hotter. Yeah, yeah.

Moses (56:26)

Probably very rich, though.

Trisha Paytas (56:27)

He's definitely rich, for sure.

Tara (56:29)

She probably is, too. I bet he's not.

Moses (56:31)

No, I'm just saying, if you're saying get a billionaire, like, he's probably in that far.

Tara (56:34)

I don't think he's a billionaire. People, I think, spend money a lot, too, especially athletes. Who was broke. Oh, Mickey Rorick was in the news. I think TMZ reported he started to gofundme for his rent.

Moses (56:45)

What?

Trisha Paytas (56:45)

Okay. Karma's a she should have known better. Yeah, yeah, yeah. See what happens when you mess with JoJo?

Moses (56:52)

Sorry? With Joel.

Trisha Paytas (56:53)

Oh, yeah. Joelle, I. For my apologies.

Tara (56:55)

I was trying to think of the correlation. Oh, right. They were in Big Brother together.

Trisha Paytas (56:58)

Yes, I remember. He was homophobic to Joelle.

Tara (57:02)

Oh, my God. That seems like a fever dream. That seems like so long ago.

Trisha Paytas (57:05)

Wow.

Tara (57:06)

I forgot. Was that last year?

Trisha Paytas (57:07)

Last year.

Tara (57:08)

Well, that's right. Right? Yeah. That song is good. Send it to everybody. That's crazy.

Moses (57:17)

When I saw her post on Tick Tock, I was like, she took your advice, like, with the reprints.

Tara (57:24)

Yeah, I know.

Moses (57:25)

Like a hundred percent. Your advice exactly the way everything was.

Tara (57:30)

Yeah, I love it for her. Joelle, call me, because I have more ideas for you. I love it. I can. I want to see her blossom. I want to see her writing that tell all book. I want her to see her coming to, like, reality of what was what. And I think it's gonna take a minute. I think she'll be like my age. I think she'll be like 37. Because even me writing this secret project that I can't talk about, I was like, you learn so much when you reflect. You're just like, holy. And then you can teach life lessons in there. And I think it'd be amazing because I loved Nia's book.

Trisha Paytas (57:57)

Book.

Tara (57:57)

So I feel like Joelle, her book could be amazing when she like, comes to and talks to the right people and like, really reevaluates that situation. Reassesses. I keep seeing edits of Abby Lee Miller in Stranger Things, but I also see me in Stranger Things.

Trisha Paytas (58:14)

But I haven't seen you.

Tara (58:16)

They get like millions of views. They're what? Okay, I gotta show you one.

Moses (58:19)

They get like whole scenes from the show and they always superimpose her into conversations like they're actual dads.

Tara (58:24)

I got you. It's not long, but like, there's like. Like so many. Like, I can't believe you haven't seen them. It just made me think that's why.

Trisha Paytas (58:30)

You'Re defending the Duffer brothers.

Tara (58:33)

Season six. You know, there could be one. Oh, yeah, they got like. Yeah, they get like a couple million some of these.

Moses (58:39)

I mean, that's. Fans should make their own season finale. It's just the only way to do it.

Tara (58:43)

Wow, there's like so many. I've saved a couple of them.

Trisha Paytas (58:45)

You don't like girls?

Tara (58:47)

I connect with girls. Actually, a lot more than I do with guys. I'm not trying to be a jerk, okay? What the. Dumb little prick. It's called freedom of speech. You get ready. Protection spell. So your hate comments are going to just bounce right off me and go right back to you, cuz there's an aura around me. Anyway, shout out to. What is this relatable trick? Trish, I guess. Oh, yeah, they made a lot relatable. Trish made. Oh, one has 3.4 million. Yeah. But then someone did it with Abby Lee and then they killed the meme. I was like, no, do not put me in that category. But it was kind of everything stranger.

Trisha Paytas (59:30)

Trish and Trishna. Yep.

Tara (59:32)

Watch out. I would love to work with the Duffers. I would love it. What a name. Is that their real name?

Trisha Paytas (59:38)

Their last name is Duffer? Yeah. Matt and Ross Duffer. They're Twins.

Tara (59:42)

That's interesting. They're both talented.

Trisha Paytas (59:44)

Well, the writers. We don't know. Alleged writers.

Tara (59:49)

That is crazy, because I do think about, like. Like, if Moses and I separate, like, would this podcast still be run? Who would run our cameras? Who would do the audio? Like, you know, like, what would happen? That's why we ever get into fights. I'm like, we can't break up. We have a podcast on Monday. Right. How would we do it?

Moses (60:07)

Which never happen.

Tara (60:10)

What, fighting? No, we haven't flopped. We don't fight. You've been.

Moses (60:13)

No, we've never been, like, you know, like, in a crisis mod, like, oh, my God, the podcast is tomorrow and we're not talking or something. That never happens.

Tara (60:20)

Well, sometimes I'm mad at you, but not lately.

Trisha Paytas (60:25)

Hashtag never forgot.

Tara (60:26)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (60:27)

2025.

Tara (60:29)

That was. That was bad. That was bad. But we've been good. You've been good to me, even. So nice.

Moses (60:33)

Even that evening. We. I mean, we always resolve it within an hour.

Tara (60:37)

Yeah. Mostly because Moses is the. Is always a bigger person. He's let me sleep in. I've been sleeping in every day. It's. It was hard this morning about. I've been swimming every day to, like, 9:30am it's been so wonderful. He takes the kids in the other room, and it's so wonderful. And I feel like that's why I've had such a good break. But Alex. Yes. People were really gagged by it, honestly. Not Tom Brady.

Trisha Paytas (61:01)

Yeah.

Tara (61:01)

Leo was there. He was in St. Bart.

Trisha Paytas (61:03)

He has a girlfriend, and also she's 20. Alex is 25, so.

Tara (61:08)

Too old.

Trisha Paytas (61:09)

Yeah. Officially too old, I fear. Although his girlfriend Victoria just turned 25 as well. So maybe Leo is turning over a new leaf or something.

Tara (61:16)

I mean, you have to. Once you're, like, that old and bloated, you need to, like, up your age range. You know what I mean? Like, it's just he. He was at Critics Choice last night. I think he wasn't gonna come because it's like, boat was delayed or something in Saint bars. And you're just like, what's happening in St. Bart's why is all these old.

Trisha Paytas (61:31)

Men with these young billionaires are out there in St. Bart? That's the place to be, I guess. If you have a billion dollars.

Tara (61:36)

I guess. And I'm not even judging these women, honestly, I. If I looked like Alex Earl, I definitely would have been trying to get, like, a rich. Even I didn't look like a nurse. I was trying to get, like, that rich man. You know what? I mean, like, like, yeah. I don't know. Like, good for them. I guess that's what happens when you're pretty. I'll never know that side of the world of pretty girls and rich. Like, I don't know. I don't know if I want to, but maybe not me, not my life. But I guess. I guess I'm trying to think if I was 25 and young and hot, like, maybe, probably, like if you were.

Trisha Paytas (62:03)

The you you were at 25, you would be there. Yeah, yeah. With the quickness, with the absolute.

Tara (62:09)

For like $10. You're right.

Trisha Paytas (62:11)

You're right. Because if you having to think about it when you were talking 25.

Tara (62:16)

No, I get why they do it. I just think Alex Rose is like, above it. Like, above it. And I mean that in like, a nice way. Like, there's girls who are just like, pretty and don't have, like, anything else, not anything else going for them, but their goal is to, like, marriage, whatever. And I think that's great. Like, honestly do that. But I think Alex Earl has just so much going for her. So she can, like, really be picky and have high standards. And I think Tom Brady or the intercopieria are not good enough for her. Honestly.

Trisha Paytas (62:36)

Yeah, honestly. I agree. That was my initial thought when I saw the video. I was like, girl, we can do better. But also, I mean, if this is what you want, want, I guess, go for it. But just, yeah, you could do better. And yeah, everyone on Tick Tock was like, in the comments I saw, they were like, yeah, some people were like, yeah, she kind of looks like Giselle bunch. And so that. I'm like, well, she doesn't look like Giselle. Giselle is Brazilian, right? Like, she's South American.

Tara (62:58)

I guess they're blonde. That is a weird. It was a weird model body.

Trisha Paytas (63:02)

Yeah, just hot.

Tara (63:03)

I guess people love. I was seeing that too, with the whole Zach Bryan discourse. I'm like, she married a Brianna chicken fried doppelganger. And I'm like, like, like, I'm not even saying this in a shady way. Like, the Alex, like, they're all. They're beautiful women, but like, there's. They're like, there's so many beautiful girls that look like that. You know what I mean? Like, it's like, I get it. I told and I Zach Ryan's piece. I do not like him. I'm not trying to defend him. I'm just saying I think it's funny. Like, with the Alex showing, oh, she looks like Giselle. Or this Looks like it's, like, just hot. Yeah, they're just hot, thin and have pretty faces and dark hair, blonde hair. Like, it is interesting how people, like, go to that. It is also interesting how people have a type, though. I do. Like, if you look at any of my people I've dated, like, none of them look like each other. They all look, like, so different, in my opinion. Most of them old and saggy. Besides Moses, of course. Every time I see Moses, like, butt just being tight or thighs being, like, not have jelly on them, I'm like, oh, my gosh. Like. And I've always dated guys in their 40s, even when I was not 18. You know what I mean? Like, I've always been people in their 40s, and they all are jiggly and, like, not. Not hot, saggy, everything, and, you know. Know. So I was like, wow, you look. You keep it up. But most people look like they're melting, you know? So I guess there is a type that I have. I guess that is my type. I was like, oh, they look different, but they're all a little saggy. But you wouldn't say, like, oh, you know what that person looks like that person.

Trisha Paytas (64:19)

You know what I mean? Yeah.

Tara (64:22)

Yeah. That's interesting. When they compare the women also. Yeah. Giselle and, like, Alex, I feel like they're also just.

Trisha Paytas (64:28)

Also.

Tara (64:28)

They're just different humans.

Trisha Paytas (64:29)

Yeah. Different. Different age ranges, different races. Like, they're just.

Tara (64:33)

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Trisha Paytas (64:36)

The other couple news that I was kind of living for was Timothy shouting out Kylie Jenner and his Critics Choice Awards acceptance speech.

Tara (64:44)

Love that.

Trisha Paytas (64:44)

Love. Finally. They've been together three years.

Tara (64:47)

Oh, the way you think. Her, too, is just like my partner. Three years. And he's just like, I couldn't have done this without, like, you're. You're like this amazing, accomplished actor. You're like, I couldn't have done without you. But I think it says a lot about Kylie. Meaning holding it down.

Trisha Paytas (64:57)

You know what? Exactly. I was thinking the same thing. Thank you for our foundation. I love you. I couldn't do this without you. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.

Tara (65:04)

For a man to say that about a woman is crazy. And as accomplished as he is is crazy. And people look down on, like, the.

Trisha Paytas (65:09)

Yeah.

Tara (65:10)

The Kardashians and all of it with, like, housekeepers and all stuff like that. But it's like, if she's holding a foundation down and he's saying that a man. And the accomplishment. All that's like. That, like, says a lot credit. She is the billionaire she's making the money. But yes.

Moses (65:21)

Didn't he talk about how he's going to be like the best actor? Like working to be the best actor? All those things.

Trisha Paytas (65:26)

Yeah.

Moses (65:26)

So he's. It's even more amazing to hear it from him.

Tara (65:30)

Yeah, yeah, of course. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (65:32)

I think he pivoted cuz pre Marty supreme, he was in the. Like, I'm the best at what I do. I'm giving the best performances. And people were saying that was like kind of a bit because his character in Marty supreme is like delusional confidence, like, very egotistical, like thinks he's the best pingpong player in the world. So people were like, oh, he's just like channeling Marty's. Which. Which still is annoying.

Tara (65:55)

What's Marty Supreme? I think we skipped a chapter.

Moses (66:00)

Did you like the movie?

Trisha Paytas (66:01)

That's what I did. I like the movie. I watched Marty Supreme. It's Timothy's. That's what he won on the Craig's Choice.

Tara (66:08)

We've never talked about this.

Trisha Paytas (66:09)

We have. It's about Pink, about the ping pong player. Okay.

Tara (66:13)

Well, you said it so casually. You just like went to the next thing. I was like, what the hell? Did you watch it? Is it streaming?

Trisha Paytas (66:20)

No, it's in theaters right now.

Tara (66:21)

We were on a movie theater kick. We should see.

Trisha Paytas (66:23)

Yeah, I don't know. It was long. It was two and a half hours. It is definitely a film. I see why it is like applauded and why people like it. It just stressed me out because I don't like movies or media where like a white man is making terrible decisions like the whole entire time and not thinking things through all the way. I'm like. And that's really what he is like, his whole. Though this is not a spoiler, like the whole plot is he wants to go to Japan to enter the ping pong tournament and beat the guy who beat him the year before.

Tara (66:58)

So.

Trisha Paytas (66:59)

And he's trying to get there by any means necessary. And he's like conning people in order to get the money to go to Japan because he's poor and he had a job selling shoes, but he quit that job so he can focus on ping pong.

Tara (67:13)

Is it okay to con people if you don't have money?

Trisha Paytas (67:17)

That is the whole question.

Tara (67:18)

Yeah, maybe it's okay.

Trisha Paytas (67:20)

He just. He does some really dastardly, dubious things.

Tara (67:24)

Are we talking about.

Trisha Paytas (67:25)

Are we talking about like a dog abduction? I thought that was kind of.

Tara (67:29)

And what does he do? He holds him for ransom.

Trisha Paytas (67:31)

Yeah. He just steals a dog and then.

Tara (67:33)

He'S like, I'll give you this dog back if you mean money.

Moses (67:35)

Okay, well, funny. Entertaining, or is it, like, stressful?

Trisha Paytas (67:40)

Like, it's.

Tara (67:40)

It's.

Trisha Paytas (67:41)

It's a comedy. It's ish. But it's a dramedy, I would. I would say.

Tara (67:45)

And he won for that.

Trisha Paytas (67:46)

Yeah, he won the. The Critics Choice Award for Best Actor for Marty supreme. So. Yeah, I mean, I could see him going all the way and getting the Oscar.

Tara (67:54)

Wow.

Trisha Paytas (67:55)

Yeah, it was the movie that stressed me out. I didn't like.

Tara (67:59)

Yeah, I guess that would be.

Trisha Paytas (68:01)

But he's. His performance is really good. Like, he is a great actor. I'll give him that for sure.

Tara (68:05)

Okay. You saw it?

Moses (68:07)

No. It's in theaters.

Tara (68:11)

Like you're gonna have a conversation.

Moses (68:13)

No. If I should be excited about watching.

Tara (68:15)

The movie, we should go see it.

Trisha Paytas (68:17)

You might like it.

Tara (68:18)

Yeah.

Moses (68:19)

It sounds less than. What? Like, I thought it'd be funny.

Trisha Paytas (68:21)

That dog that I was just telling you about, the dog's name is Moses. I thought of you.

Tara (68:26)

There's always a dog named Moses. And meet the Fockers. The dog is named Moses, too. Wow. There's always a dog named Moses. I love it. Okay, well, maybe that's worth seeing just for that roof. We love that. We love a. Okay, maybe I'll see it. He grows on me a little bit. I liked it.

Trisha Paytas (68:43)

And the concept of Kylie being there at the Oscars, again, another shout out. I could see it. People don't give Kylie enough credit. I feel like, yes, Timothy's, like, stands. No offense, but I feel like people, because he's, like, French and, like, artistic, that people think that he's so, like, highbrow and, like, just like an actor. Like, he takes the crap. Like, he does. Obviously takes the crap seriously. But he's also kind of like a silly, kind of unserious biggest guy, too. Like, he was rapping when he was in Yale or wherever or nyu. Like, he was a rap. He was doing, like, little random theater shows and stuff. Like, he was. So he's kind of, like, silly, and people kind of forget that. So I don't think he's, like, above Kylie at all. I feel like Kylie is, I think, a little bit more serious than Timothy.

Tara (69:25)

Yeah, I think so, too.

Trisha Paytas (69:26)

She's, like, way more low key.

Tara (69:27)

Yeah. If I had to place him, I'd put her above him.

Trisha Paytas (69:29)

Yeah.

Tara (69:29)

Also, like, people, I love talking about money. I just got the money, you know?

Trisha Paytas (69:32)

Yeah, he did. He released a rap song with. When he did mar. When Marty supreme came Out. He was like, I'm trying to rack 100 milli. My girl's got a billy.

Tara (69:39)

So he knows, he's aware. And she's like beautiful and gorgeous. Like, oh, that's what I'm saying. Like some. Yeah, she has good standard. See, that's, that's what Alex. Rolling. He's like a Timothy Shami type. Obviously, he's taking.

Trisha Paytas (69:48)

Yeah, yeah. That kind of like, it's just a movie star is good sometimes, but yeah. And Timmy is like, this generation's like, movie star, movie star.

Tara (69:56)

I saw George Clooney say there's no more movie stars left. And I was like, he's like, I'm blast. Movie star. I was like, like, did you see that?

Trisha Paytas (70:02)

Where he's like, the movie star is dead.

Tara (70:03)

Yeah. He's like, there's nobody anymore. If you put a name above the marquee, they'll come see just for that name. I'm like, it's why people go see movies. I go see that awful motorcycle one because Austin Butler, you know what I mean? Like, I'll see. But I'm sat for anything he does because I don't even. Except for Dune, but anything else I'm sat for. So I think that is Tom Holland. Like, I think people, Zendaya. Yeah, they just also the one with Rob Patton, like, I know what it was about, but I'm like, I'd go see it because she's in it.

Trisha Paytas (70:26)

I think they're few and far. They're harder to create now, I think. But there's still some main, Like Timothy Shalom. All of his movies perform really, really well in the box. Like even Marty supreme, which is like not based on like a existing franchise, like a books or something else. Like it still made a for just like a small movie about a pink guy playing ping pong. It made a lot of money.

Tara (70:46)

So, yeah, so there's movies.

Trisha Paytas (70:49)

Yeah, they're few and far between. But yeah, I would say Timmy is one awesome girls. I would say, like Zendaya for sure. Jennifer Lawrence. I, I, I still consider her movies make less money, but I still consider her a movie star. But like Emma Stone still is like a movie star, I think.

Tara (71:04)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (71:06)

So yeah, they're just a little bit harder.

Tara (71:07)

I think Austin Butler is too.

Trisha Paytas (71:09)

I think so too. Yeah.

Tara (71:10)

I think we have a lot.

Trisha Paytas (71:11)

I, I think Michael B. Jordan also doesn't get enough credit for being a big movie star.

Tara (71:15)

Sinner is beating out Wicked for cast ensemble now. I want to see it.

Trisha Paytas (71:20)

I think the gag is, I think you would Love.

Tara (71:23)

Wait, really? It's not scary. I don't know what it's about but center.

Trisha Paytas (71:26)

It's a little horry but. But it's mostly it's like a southern period piece vampire. But there is some like romance and like sexy in it besides Michael B. Haley Steinfeld. Michael B. Jordan.

Tara (71:37)

Oh, is this the one that had like drama or. No, I don't think. Oh, is that Spider Man? There was something Haley Seinfeld did, right? Am I getting these mixed up where someone's like he was obsessed with her.

Trisha Paytas (71:46)

Oh, that was. Yeah, that was the animated Spider man movie. Okay. Not this one. Yeah. People liked Michael B. Jordan. Michael B. Jordan and Haley Steinfeld had good chemistry and people like them together. But she is having a baby with Josh Allen, a football player.

Tara (72:01)

Michael B. Jordan. Single?

Trisha Paytas (72:03)

I think so.

Tara (72:04)

Alex Earl. Oh, good call. Oh my gosh. Because I love. You know, he dated Catherine. P.S.

Trisha Paytas (72:12)

Yes. Yeah.

Tara (72:15)

Can you imagine like Dan Michael B. Jordan then going like Austin McBroom. Crazy. That's crazy. That's so insane. I was like, why? He is probably like the catch right now as far as like single and hot and doing. Did he win critics choice last night?

Trisha Paytas (72:28)

No, no. Timmy.

Tara (72:29)

Oh, they're in the same category.

Trisha Paytas (72:30)

Yeah, yeah.

Tara (72:32)

Because it's. It's considered a drama. That movie Sinners Wicked one nothing last night.

Trisha Paytas (72:37)

Nothing. Yeah.

Tara (72:39)

Crazy.

Trisha Paytas (72:39)

It is kind of shock. The from Weapons. Aunt Gladys won. Yeah. Best supporting actress.

Tara (72:45)

Honestly. Okay. I give it, you know, like it's kind of like the Austin Butler with what's his name from the whale. Right. Like you give it to the older one. Like that's usually how it works, you know. What is his name?

Trisha Paytas (73:00)

Tarzan. Why am I forgetting? Oh, George of the Jungle.

Tara (73:02)

Yes, all of it.

Trisha Paytas (73:04)

Whatever. Whichever one he was.

Tara (73:05)

I don't know but it's giving the same thing. Damn.

Trisha Paytas (73:08)

Brandon Fraser.

Tara (73:09)

Isn't Gladys nominated for an Oscar?

Trisha Paytas (73:11)

Yeah, well, Oscar nominations haven't happened yet, but usually critics choice in Golden Globes like kind of set the precedent of the rest of awards season. So it's looking who won over Cynthia, who wasn't best actress.

Tara (73:24)

Oh, you said. Oh no, no.

Moses (73:25)

That was the one TV show she won.

Trisha Paytas (73:29)

It was Jesse Buckley from Hamnet one Best Actress.

Tara (73:34)

Well, congrats to her. But what is Hamnet?

Trisha Paytas (73:36)

That's the movie with Paul Mescal inspired by Hamlet.

Tara (73:40)

Okay.

Trisha Paytas (73:41)

Yeah. I never saw Darian really wanted to see in theaters. We never saw it and he won't let me forget it. He said the second it is out on digital, we have to watch it he's brilliant. Sorry, I just don't. I. I really sat through Marty Supreme. He's given me a few. Like, we saw the Housemaid, the Sydney Sweeney, Amanda cipher movie. Granted that the critics were raving about that. But, yeah, he was really hard on it. His letterboxd review. But everyone else disagreed with him and gave it, like, great reviews. So I. He saw the Housemaid with me, and then his revenge for that was Marty supreme, so.

Tara (74:15)

But you liked it?

Trisha Paytas (74:16)

Marty Supreme.

Tara (74:17)

I mean, it was a hard sit through some of it, but you liked it.

Trisha Paytas (74:20)

I sat through it. I did get up to get nachos at one point. So.

Tara (74:23)

What kind? The Grande or the regular?

Trisha Paytas (74:25)

The gr.

Moses (74:25)

The.

Trisha Paytas (74:26)

Yeah, the chicken Grande.

Tara (74:27)

Those are very good.

Trisha Paytas (74:28)

Yeah.

Tara (74:29)

So maybe we should go see what is the handmade. The Housemaid.

Trisha Paytas (74:32)

The Housemaid. I would think so. Yeah. I think. I mean, I like the book. So I went in, kind of like knowing the twist and stuff. But the reviews have been good. I liked it. Amanda Seyfried is amazing.

Tara (74:44)

I love her. And it's also the guy from that movie.

Trisha Paytas (74:47)

It ends with that.

Tara (74:47)

Yes. I was gonna say, like, yes.

Trisha Paytas (74:49)

Why am I forgetting his name, too?

Tara (74:50)

Atlas.

Trisha Paytas (74:51)

Yes.

Tara (74:53)

What do you want to see? The Housemaid.

Trisha Paytas (74:55)

Brendan Sklinner.

Moses (74:58)

Any movie. I just like going to the movies.

Tara (75:01)

Yeah, I know. We really did try.

Moses (75:03)

She really wanted to, but I was like, I don't. I can't do it to you. Like, it's so long.

Tara (75:07)

No, no. I wanted to, but I think what happened was, is we didn't have anyone for the kids because we thought, oh, maybe when, like, someone's watching the kids. But we had no one for the kids because we thought we had the day. And I was, like, excited because I was on a movie kick. We were going to the movie. Movies, like, almost back to back. We're going. I was excited. Well, the Housemaid is sexy, girls. I heard. I always see the tiktoks of people. Like, I watched the Housemaid with my husband and I'm four months postpartum and they get, like, sad about it because I guess, like, super hot.

Trisha Paytas (75:29)

Well, Brendan Sklinar is also naked in that too, so there's something for everybody, I guess.

Tara (75:35)

It's not the same. Like, if I like Bridgerton, right? You see, like, a hot naked guy, and it's like, look at that. But. But if you see, like, a hot naked girl, it does something to men, I think. More so than it does women, I'm assuming. Right, right.

Moses (75:46)

I think it does more to you.

Tara (75:48)

Well, I'm Different. But I'm just saying in general, I think most. That's not true.

Moses (75:53)

You watch a movie or a TV show, it's just like, oh, my God.

Tara (75:56)

I do get. I get like more blushy. I get more like embarrassed to watch something.

Moses (76:00)

I don't get embarrassed.

Tara (76:02)

But I don't find naked bodies to be a turn on. When people are naked. I'm never like, oh, wow, look at that naked butt. Like, I don't know. It doesn't do.

Trisha Paytas (76:09)

Yeah. I wasn't like, my basement wasn't flooded at Brandon's. He's also just like, too, like. Like, he's almost too Scottish. Perfect. I got like, Scottish.

Tara (76:21)

Is he, like, Irish or something?

Moses (76:23)

Okay.

Trisha Paytas (76:23)

I think he's, like, from Texas. He feels like a southern vibe.

Tara (76:26)

I feel like he has, like a European accent. For sure.

Trisha Paytas (76:29)

Are you serious?

Tara (76:30)

Yeah. So whenever I hear him talking, I was like, oh, you're. I hate that when you, like, find out someone's European, you're just like, what?

Trisha Paytas (76:34)

I guess he's from New Jersey.

Tara (76:37)

Oh, really?

Moses (76:39)

Yes.

Tara (76:39)

Okay.

Trisha Paytas (76:40)

Well, he seems European, but yeah, he's almost too, like. I don't like, like too muscly, like too much almost.

Tara (76:48)

I agree with that. Yes. I don't think, like, no offense to the hard bodies out there. I don't love it. Yeah, Nothing for me.

Trisha Paytas (76:53)

So. Yeah, I didn't. I wasn't like, moved any type of way, really. So I was more like. Amanda Seifert was given, like, the campiest, like, most amazing performance.

Tara (77:02)

Was she giving sex?

Trisha Paytas (77:03)

No, she was giving crazy.

Tara (77:05)

I do love that.

Trisha Paytas (77:06)

Yeah. You would actually probably.

Tara (77:07)

I feel like you watch.

Trisha Paytas (77:08)

You would. Especially as an actress. I think that you need to watch it and see Amanda Seifer. Then, like, I feel like you would. You could channel her too. Like you and her in a movie. I think a drama specifically, I think would be like. And there's a sequel coming, so down. Yeah.

Tara (77:25)

I'm campaigning for that sequel.

Trisha Paytas (77:27)

Stranger Things 6 Stranger Things, even though it doesn't exist.

Tara (77:29)

But MA3 or 2, whatever comes first. Like, I'm. That was Minecraft. Yeah. All of it. I do wanted to see Avatar. I didn't want to see that. This one is it though, huh? Slash Avatar.

Trisha Paytas (77:42)

It depends. I mean, it's making a lot of money. It's going to make 1.5 billion. But James Jimmy Cameron, your friend back from Titanic said that it. It's not confirmed whether there'll be a four and five. He wants to. But it's like a will.

Tara (77:56)

What other elements could they possibly use that's true.

Trisha Paytas (77:59)

They have done firewater. Yeah. They would have to really figure something. Something else out.

Moses (78:04)

Plasma or something. There's always something.

Tara (78:07)

Call her up from drag race season 15. I love following her, everything she does.

Moses (78:14)

It's probably going to be just like what Star wars is, you know, it will just always continue if. If it's not movies, it'll be a TV show and animations and.

Trisha Paytas (78:21)

Yeah, all the rest of it.

Tara (78:22)

Star wars sounds awful. Did you see them?

Trisha Paytas (78:25)

I saw the. I think actually maybe I've seen them all at this point.

Tara (78:30)

Oh, you have?

Trisha Paytas (78:31)

In high school, we had a film class where we had to watch the original three for some reason. So watched those three and then I think before the new, like, reboot movies came out, I was like, maybe I would like Star Wars. And I watched them all again. I didn't like it. Yeah, I like it. The idea at Disneyland, like, with, you know, the little robots running around, the drinks and stuff.

Tara (78:52)

Those little birds on your shoulder. We bought all those. I love those. Yeah, the drinks, the cocoa brew. We love. What is it? The Rise of Resistance. The one where it's like kind of sliding around.

Trisha Paytas (79:01)

Like, that's fun.

Tara (79:02)

Yeah, I. I love that. Like, I love the fandom of it. I wish. Yes.

Trisha Paytas (79:07)

Just can't get into the. Yeah, the lore.

Tara (79:09)

I can't really get into actual movie itself. Not my thing. Are they building a new writing universe? Oh, Fast and Furious is coming up there.

Trisha Paytas (79:16)

Do you see that?

Tara (79:16)

They were testing the cars.

Trisha Paytas (79:18)

Oh, no, I didn't see. They're testing people.

Tara (79:19)

Like, filmed it from. I don't know where else.

Trisha Paytas (79:21)

I mean, it's big.

Tara (79:22)

So where's it at?

Trisha Paytas (79:23)

Universal.

Tara (79:24)

But do you know if it's on the lower lot or.

Trisha Paytas (79:26)

It's on. It's near the. It starts near the entrance and then it goes, like over the escalators and stuff. It's pretty expansive. Yeah.

Tara (79:33)

God, I just don't know how people do roller coasters. That sounds terrifying. Like, I don't know if, like, what if it breaks?

Trisha Paytas (79:38)

I like a roller coaster once I'm on it, but I always feel, like, really anxious going Six Flags, though. I don't know if I can do Billie Eilish for, like, New Year's or something. She rented out. It was her and Quinn Blackwell. Like, they rented out Six Flags together and they're like, yeah.

Tara (79:53)

Oh, my God. Ow.

Trisha Paytas (79:54)

They had it all to themselves at night. It was crazy.

Tara (79:58)

Oh, my God. That's insane.

Trisha Paytas (79:59)

Yeah.

Tara (80:00)

Okay. I love. I would do that too. I wonder how much it costs.

Trisha Paytas (80:03)

I was thinking that too. I was like, damn.

Tara (80:05)

No, I guess that night night's different because even Disneyland, if you get married, you get married at like midnight and it's not as expensive as you think. I think it's like 150000 or something like that. And you get access. I don't think you'd access the whole park, but you do get access to like the quarter you shut down. Like, I think if you do like Pirates of Caribbean in New Orleans, I.

Trisha Paytas (80:20)

Imagine Six Flags has to be a lot cheaper than. Yeah. So yeah, I mean we love still.

Tara (80:25)

That's still flex, but that is wild.

Trisha Paytas (80:27)

Yeah. A lot of influences were with celebrities for new because Quinn was with Billy Billie Eilish and Emma Chamberlain was with Sabrina Carpenter in New York. Yeah.

Tara (80:35)

They've gone mainstream. That's when you know you've got Harry Daniels with Megan.

Trisha Paytas (80:41)

Yeah.

Tara (80:41)

Crazy.

Trisha Paytas (80:42)

Dylan Mulvaney was with Robert Pattinson. Isn't that crazy?

Tara (80:46)

You did. Where was she?

Trisha Paytas (80:48)

She was on. Where was she? It was her birthday party and Robert Pattinson was in the background and she's with Joe Locke. I'm like, the Dolls are really famous these days.

Tara (80:55)

My God, good for them. Honestly, you could have been with Jake Weber.

Trisha Paytas (80:58)

I trust me. I mean with Kenzie.

Tara (81:02)

You want the girls. You're like, yeah, no, I love you.

Trisha Paytas (81:05)

Jake is oomphie. I love Jake. But the girls are everything.

Tara (81:09)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (81:10)

Trust me. I was thinking about it non stop.

Tara (81:13)

I wanted to be at the Jayla residency on New Year's Eve. Even though I don't really like JLo. I do love her residency and she like did her New Year's Eve celebration with her kids on stage. I was of kind. Like, I could see this for me in 2026.

Trisha Paytas (81:22)

Yeah, I could see that too.

Tara (81:23)

I like to envision myself what other people are doing, like Megas residency and New Year's Eve 2026. Cuz I love the idea of celebrating New Year's Eve. I just. We truly have nowhere to go. Like I don't know where I'd go. I'd be like, where are we going to go? I didn't get that invite. But also. No, but also because I'm too old, you know? Am I too old to be here? Yes. At that place I would be. So. I would not. But where'd they all go? Where did everybody go? Just to parties.

Trisha Paytas (81:48)

Like, I guess so.

Tara (81:51)

Yeah. I mean I love. I love staying in on New Year's Eve too. You just feel safe.

Trisha Paytas (81:54)

Yeah, I passed out early, to be honest. I went to bed, like, at 10:00pm.

Tara (81:58)

Oh, you didn't get counted down?

Trisha Paytas (82:00)

No, I was knocked out.

Tara (82:02)

Did you see the New Year's Eve drama with Tara, Tara's World, the halter top? I'm so shook.

Trisha Paytas (82:09)

You saw this because it's like it was cramming last. I, like, did a deep dive into the halter top drama, and I was, like, enraged. I was like, are you. I don't, like, I don't know if it was a rage bait, but if so, I was baited. She baited me good.

Tara (82:21)

That's what I was saying. Like, it has to rage. But I think people say that when they can't believe something. Yes.

Moses (82:26)

But when there's another person involved.

Tara (82:28)

Oh, you know about this too. That is like, to me, I thought this was so niche. This is so great, because I even went to hers and I was thinking, like, oh, what kind of views is she getting on this drama? And it was only, like, maybe like a million or two, which is like, a lot, but, like, not a lot.

Trisha Paytas (82:41)

Yeah.

Tara (82:41)

So I was just kind of like.

Trisha Paytas (82:42)

Think it spawned a lot of, like, videos, like, either stitching it or something. Oh. And that's why kind of bizarre.

Tara (82:50)

I, I, I hope it's rage bait, but I'd have to venture that it's not because, like, her whole brand is, like, girls liking her. So it would be, like, a weird time to. That'd be like, me just trying to rage bait all of a sudden with, like, my own audience. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. It seemed not rage baiting. Yeah, yeah.

Trisha Paytas (83:08)

Yes, it does seem. I don't know. Well, the whole thing, I guess for context, is it was like a desperate plea for her New Year's Eve outfit. There was one specific halter top that Tara wanted, and it was sold out. So she went to her, her followers, who she considers her friends, mind you.

Tara (83:24)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (83:25)

And she said, does anyone have this halter top? And people were offering to sell her the same halter top.

Tara (83:31)

She was annoyed. She's like, she wasn't.

Trisha Paytas (83:33)

Yeah.

Tara (83:33)

Everyone just wants money. I'm like, well, yeah, is that something? A value like, that she wants lot.

Trisha Paytas (83:38)

And they were like, they were selling it for, like, around $2,000 or something.

Tara (83:42)

Oh, that's kind of crazy.

Trisha Paytas (83:43)

It was. Yeah, it's a lot. And then there was one fan who, from the, from the Valley. Sfv. San Fernando Valley.

Tara (83:49)

Okay.

Trisha Paytas (83:50)

That offered to lend it to her for free. Was gonna deliver it via, like, Uber delivery.

Tara (83:54)

Wow.

Trisha Paytas (83:55)

And Tara said she was completely relying on this follower like the outfit needed this alter top. Like you can't have 2026 if this halter top is not on her body. We're not gonna get 2026. Like the world will crumble.

Tara (84:10)

We're loving lemons, by the way, which is like not a fancy brand. It's like maybe a couple hundred dollars where it's kind of like a lazy.

Trisha Paytas (84:18)

What? The love and lemon halter top is not draped on Tara's world.

Tara (84:24)

I need to see what this looks like.

Trisha Paytas (84:26)

I saw the tick tocks. Yeah.

Tara (84:27)

Was it like white?

Trisha Paytas (84:28)

It was white, yeah.

Tara (84:28)

Because for love 11 is always like white with, with like an eyelet. Like I haven't even seen it. But they're always just like a weird like lacy like old like crochet looking thing. And I'm like, okay. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (84:37)

I was like, all this for that is kind of wild. And of course Tara was elated at the offer. But when the time came to receive said halter top, she claimed that the fan and follower just like ghosted her. She was messaging her, not getting a response. And she went to Tick Tock and made a video like putting this girl on blast from not coming through with the halter.

Tara (84:59)

Is that what happened first? So she put it on blast first?

Trisha Paytas (85:01)

Yes.

Tara (85:02)

Oh, so what girl? Girl. Cuz then she's like, everyone needs to let this go. Why is it a big deal? I'm like, girl, you put it up.

Trisha Paytas (85:08)

And then the girl, the girl in question said that she was a nurse in the er. She had to work a double shift without like she went in not knowing. But one of the other nurses like didn't had a call out, so she was stuck working the double shift on a holiday. So she and the. Your ER nurse, like you don't have your phone, so she didn't see it until she comes out. Imagine, imagine it's like you're working on holiday, a double shift in the er. You're pulling out a yule log out of someone's. Someone else is like choking on like a bow or something. Like think of the like weird things that can happen around. Everyone has the flu. Everyone got the flu or neurovirus or whatever.

Tara (85:44)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (85:44)

I can't imagine working a double shift on a holiday, dealing with the wackiest holiday shenanigans when you yourself don't even get to celebrate the holiday. Coming out and seeing Tara's world just putting it on. I would be so upset. I would be livid.

Tara (85:57)

I would show the tech, like show.

Trisha Paytas (85:59)

The Tara's world showed the deal.

Tara (86:01)

Can you See who it was or did she like blurt out?

Trisha Paytas (86:03)

I let me see. I took a screenshot of. I think think the name was retracted but the girl stepped forward because she was in the comments offering said already. So she kind of was a little bit public in that sense. But yeah, I think the. The names were. The name in the DMS was taken out. It was just white. But she. So she. Tara DM'd her when. When she got quote unquote ghosted. Said I was gonna go to the mall today to look for a shirt, but I didn't because you said you would compare through for me sad face. And then she replied. Hi Tara, I saw you went to the mall in your video. I am not a hater, just a nurse that had to work overtime today due to the influx of patients. I am sorry I couldn't get to the top get. Get to the top to you and ghosted you. But I am not allowed on my phone. And the night shift nurse was a no show so I had to stay extra long. And Tara replied, I told you yesterday that was a pre filmed video. I did not go to the mall yesterday. And if you watch that video, I didn't even find anything. Question mark work. If you knew you were going to be working, you could have told me and we could have worked around that. As a girl, that was really messed up. I was completely relying on you and I hope you don't f over any of your friends. Like that girl.

Moses (87:11)

I love that this is why she was saving lives. Yeah, like she was like I was just home.

Trisha Paytas (87:16)

Yeah.

Tara (87:17)

But even so she said that too.

Trisha Paytas (87:19)

She's like, well girl, imagine if that was like one of your family members in the er. Like wouldn't you rather like me save their lives instead of send you this alter tomorrow?

Tara (87:28)

But that's why I don't think it's rage because she's like privately DMing this.

Moses (87:31)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (87:31)

She brought paused to read. She like she posted the receipts and she's about pause to read as like she thought she ate.

Tara (87:37)

Like oh no.

Trisha Paytas (87:38)

It was wild.

Tara (87:39)

Like I. I look at Tara's world the same way I look at like Joelle. I look at them as very much like I see what they're trying. I know they're struggling. And I followed Tara's world. Okay. I do like her because I think she's real. She just talks about, talked about how she can't afford her mortgage anymore because her f isn't doing what so she has like rent a house and sell her house. Like she's pretty real about stuff. So I do like that. And I see where she's coming from. Not on this. This is crazy. But in general, I see her. I see, like, her, like, vibes, whatever. This is crazy. Like, the DM alone is like, the posterior is crazy. Because even the dem alone, you're just like, are you okay? Like, what? Like, if someone said that to me, like, you, I feel like, either okay or just, like, not respond. If you're, like, annoyed, just don't respond. Like, what do you mean? And then, like. But then all that happened. It's like, what? And then she's like, double down, double down. And then she did another tick tock. Doubling down, another TikTok. Tripling down. Okay, one last time because I feel like I'm going crazy. I'm a girl. And I almost did it. Almost got like, I love you. But, like, honestly, like, just read the phone down. Yeah, just stop. Because, like, it is crazy to keep digging yourself in the hole and like, no one getting it. And she's just like, no. Like, I have to explain myself because I'm not a bad person. I like people. And I'm like, okay. Like, no one's saying you're a bad person. You're just like a crazy person in this situation. You know what I mean? Like, stop. Like, and there are so many people I want to say that to. And I think coming from a former person who was just like, a little bit unhinged. Yeah, a little unhinged. That's a great word. Yeah, unhinged. Like, you just have to be like, just stop. Just. And so people I remember would say that to me, especially in 2019, like, just stop. Just stop. Just put the phone down. And it's like, sometimes you just have to. Especially if everybody is saying it to you. If it sounds like everyone's harping down on you for the same thing, like, 9, 99% chance that they're right, that they're like, they know something that you're not seeing and stuff like that. And something to take yourself out of the situation. It was a crazy one. I do think this is, like, influencers in general, which is like, I hate to say that I had to be this old person saying this, but, like, it's so true. Like, the young influencers who do make so much money just being so out of touch, and you're just like, what? Like, there are people literally dying. That person was like, helping them to stay alive.

Trisha Paytas (89:33)

I can't imagine doing the Double Chef saving lives and then coming out and Charles World is like, down your neck, like, trying to get this top out of you.

Tara (89:41)

The DM and then the TikTok. I'd be like, what? Like, I was a hater, a scammer. Like, I think, like, why? Why? She hate.

Trisha Paytas (89:49)

She hated. And she wanted me to go. I was like, why?

Tara (89:52)

But I come in with the guest. Like, people said this to me out of love. And, like, I thought they were haters, too, back in 2019, where they're like, get help. Like, I think that is a valid responses. Because, like, if that's your first thought is, like, this is a hater trying to sabotage me. Like, I think there's, like, a lot of paranoia that can be, like, worked through and maybe rightfully so. Maybe she has paranoid for a reason. Maybe there were haters. She did oughta. She always talked about her salary. She made on, like, 300,000amonth. So maybe there are haters or evil eyes or something. But, like, if that's your first thought with this, then there's, like, paranoia to, like, work through. And, like, I say that out of love. Tara's world. Like, I really do, like, love you, and I love your content. I love your bar sweatshirts. I love you going to air one. Like, I follow her. I'm so. I do follow her. I love her. But this was crazy. And I feel like I'm. I can be the person to sometimes step in and be like, listen, listen, if everybody's hugging you, you're in the wrong, sweetheart. You are in the wrong for this. But that's okay. You know, you can retract, you can take accountability, you can reflect.

Trisha Paytas (90:45)

Yeah.

Tara (90:45)

And you can be more in touch. But influencers have become very out of touch.

Trisha Paytas (90:51)

Yeah. Because it was also, like, the dynamic. I was like, well, it wasn't like, I view my followers as my friends. So that's why it was a betrayal. But then, girl, the comments were like, okay, then, friend, can I borrow, like, one of your tops? And then she was like, no. So I'm like, wait, so it's a one. It's a one with street friends yet now. So you can only borrow our.

Tara (91:11)

The friends is crazy. Like, when he calls, like, would you do that to your friend? Like, that's crazy. First of all, it's not even something that you, like, communicate with all the time. It's just like a random person you.

Trisha Paytas (91:18)

Don'T even know that's could be walking down the street, wouldn't even know her.

Tara (91:23)

Like, but that's your friend. Like, no. Bad, bad. This, like, such a bad Luck. And I like, that's why I went to go look for views. I'm like, maybe she's getting like 38 million views. Maybe this is a big thing where she just wants to keep it going. But it was only like 1 to 2 million views. And I was just like, I don't think we need to keep up the Shroud for a million views. I don't know. So I don't think it was a rage bait. I think it's being just out of touch in general. I mean, I guess I would be too. If you're making $300,000 a month at that age, Maybe I'd be out of touch at a certain point too. But I don't know. That was. That was on my. That was my fyp. It was. It was Alex Earl was a lot of it. It was Tara's World. Also a lot of Chevy Chase.

Trisha Paytas (91:59)

Oh, what did he do?

Tara (92:02)

I know, but I was like, oh, this is a hot topic. But it was a hot topic to me. It was on my ex. It was on my Tick tock. It was everywhere. I felt like I watched it. He had a documentary. Oh, that came out. I don't even know where you watch it, but it's a documentary. He's 82, but basically, you haven't seen any clips of this.

Trisha Paytas (92:16)

Not hard about this.

Tara (92:17)

Oh, my God. He's like, you know, he's like, basically, I don't know. I don't know what the point of the documentary is. He's like, in it. So he's like, trying to be like. Means like everybody that's like interviewing him. The interviewer is like, I'm trying to like. He goes, I know you're trying to figure me out. He goes, but you're never going to. And she's like, why not? She's like, goes, do you want my honest answer? He's like, because you're dumb. You'll never get like. He's just like, so mean. And he's like, I know you're not gonna use that. Because it's like, what? But he's like, so nasty to everyone that's even, like, interviewing him. And thing. I don't know, the whole thing is like, chevy taste is an. Do you ever watch the show Community?

Trisha Paytas (92:41)

Yes.

Tara (92:41)

Watch Moses in here. He loves Community. You liked it.

Trisha Paytas (92:43)

You did at the time when it was out?

Tara (92:45)

Yeah, I loved Community. I thought it was, like, so good. But not one person from Community was in this documentary. You know who was in it? Ryan Reynolds. He's like the one defender of chubby Chase. We, like, love chubby taste. I was like, who loves charity Chase? I know, I'm talking about it, Moses. Like, that's not a hot topic, but it's like, muzzles, buttons. I had to put it out there because no one had. No one was talking about this with me. I really wanted to get into it. I was like, do we watch. What was my thing? I'm like, do we watch the Chevy Chase documentary? Or what was the other option I.

Moses (93:07)

Gave you, Kate at the lake house. Lake house.

Tara (93:11)

It was the Lake House from 2006 with Keanu Reeves or the Jeffy Chase? I. Moses, picked the lake house.

Moses (93:18)

I was like, okay, I'll pick Keanu Reeves over Jeffy Chase Hunting.

Tara (93:22)

I let her watch the full documentary because this whole thing was all over my. My timeline.

Moses (93:25)

But I just felt like it would upset us more. You know what I mean?

Trisha Paytas (93:29)

Like, rage bait.

Moses (93:31)

It would upset me to watch somebody like him being so awful.

Tara (93:34)

Well, I was seeing. That's why I wanted to watch the.

Moses (93:35)

Full day on a break. We, like, it was a nice afternoon.

Tara (93:38)

But I was trying to figure out the angle I was coming from. I was like, well, maybe he's, like, misunderstood. And then all the clips we saw was crazy. But then a vet, Nicole Brown, came out who was on Community, and she was like, the fact that. Cuz, like, only one person from Community was there, and it was like a second AD or something. Someone who was like, there the day he had, like, an outburst, I think he, like, said the N word on set. Nicole Brown. Yeah. And I think it was like, yeah, he tried to defend it, being like, me and Richard Pryor would call each other that word, and I don't know. That's like, what? I should have watched the whole thing. I could have more context, but the one guy would. And then Yvette had to, like, speak out and be like, I don't know who this person is. Like, speaking on my name. Like, I'm not talking about this for a reason. It's beneath me. Whatever. Like, I'm trying to, like, be above it. But, yeah, no, even Joel McHale. Everyone was just like, he was a nightmare.

Moses (94:17)

For years, we've been hearing about how awful he is on set. Like, for years. Like, it's a known thing. That's why I didn't bother watching the documentary, because it would be nothing new. And even that one clip we saw of him talking to the person in the documentary made it so clear how awful he is.

Tara (94:32)

I guess my whole thing is, like, what was the Point. Because if he's, like, 82 and it's like, you're still like. Like, that's how you want to be remembered, is just being, like, an awful person. Because he talked about, like, not being invited to the 50th SNL anniversary. But then there was one. There was a gay cast member from, like, the 80s that had, like, a tiff with Chevy Chase. I think he did some homophobic slur to him or something. Homophobic to him when he was on the set, I forgot what it was. And he was invited to the 50th thing, but Chevy Chase was not. And he was, like, all upset about it. And you're just like, what? Like, I don't know. I guess the whole point is, like, why be an awful person when you're old and about to die? Like, that's what people are gonna remember. And then you know what, when you die, like, Brigitte Bardot and stuff, it's like people just remember for all the awful things that you said in Ended. And it's like, at a certain age, don't you want to be like, yeah, maybe I was wrong. Maybe. Maybe I didn't mess up. Maybe I wasn't. We'll give some life lessons from it all. But because I saw Chapel, Ron was like, brigitte Bordeaux died.

Trisha Paytas (95:19)

Yeah.

Tara (95:19)

Everyone's like, but she's also this. This. And she's like, oh, I know.

Trisha Paytas (95:23)

I didn't know anything about Bridget Bardot either. I just know she's, like, in name dropped in all the songs, too.

Tara (95:27)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (95:28)

Kind of a playboy, Bridget Bardot. Like, Chapel does it. So Olivia Rodrigo names drops. Her too.

Tara (95:34)

Sabrina does all her inspiration for you.

Trisha Paytas (95:36)

Yes.

Tara (95:36)

Yeah, I didn't know that either, because she is. She was beautiful back in the day. And, like, the inspo. But also, that's how I found out.

Trisha Paytas (95:43)

About everyone having to retract their condolences.

Tara (95:45)

I was like, oh, but that's what I'm saying. Like, do you want to live your life where after you're gone, people are gonna be like, well, they were an oh, I don't want to actually. Never mind. Not rest in peace. Like, Exactly. You know, I just don't know. I don't get it.

Trisha Paytas (96:00)

Not rest in peace is crazy.

Tara (96:04)

It was like, you know, that's.

Trisha Paytas (96:06)

Thank God she's gone. Like, it is kind of crazy. Yeah.

Tara (96:08)

He's still alive. He still has time to. Yeah. But I guess most. That's why Dick Van Dyke loves to be, like, 100. Because he's good and wonderful and.

Trisha Paytas (96:15)

Yeah.

Tara (96:15)

I watch live to be 100 people. Like, I'm just kidding. I mean, honestly. Crazy, though. Crazy that it's giving. It's giving, like, out of touch. Influencer 82. You know, it's giving. I'd rather watch Tara's World talk about her alter top than the Chevy Chase. What is it called? I'm Chevy Chase and you're not. Like, what? Never was funny. Someone did say that, too. They're like, this guy had, like, three mediocre movies back in the day. Like, I'm sorry, National Lampoon's Vacation is not a national treasure. You know, it's not Nicolas Cage movie. Like, it's. It's giving. It's giving mid. Everything he's ever done. What was it someone said? The man of the House with Jonathan Taylor Thomas. I was like, yeah, that's like his movie caliber.

Moses (96:51)

We just said the time. There were not that many movies. And, like, a movie star was a big movie star at the time. Chase, any. Any movie star of that time, like, they were bigger than life. It's not like today.

Tara (97:02)

Never liked him. Never liked him. That's why you liked him. I could see you liking him.

Moses (97:06)

And, like, as a kid watching the movies back then, we didn't know anything about them.

Tara (97:11)

What movie was he in? Like, he wasn't even in, like, Ghostbusters. It was Three Amigos or something.

Moses (97:14)

I'm like, I always see him as, like, he's always the same character, like, this kind of goofy guy, and funny things are happening around him. But I never, like, knew anything about him specifically until Community, when Community started, did. That's when I started hearing the rumors of how awful he is and, like.

Tara (97:28)

Why did they cast him?

Moses (97:29)

I think in a way, he probably met, you know, like, younger people. We don't take that as.

Trisha Paytas (97:33)

Yeah.

Moses (97:34)

You know, in the past, people would just take it because he was the star and they were not. But now people are just like, you can't talk this way.

Tara (97:40)

Right?

Moses (97:41)

Like, you can say those things. You can't treat us this way. And, yeah, you should have just stayed away.

Tara (97:47)

You know, the person who was supposed to be Chevy Chase's character in Community was actually Fred. God, what is his name? He was. He was the dad. The grandpa in Modern Family. So, you know, like, the main dad of Modern Family was his dad.

Moses (98:03)

Oh, like the shoe. Like the L from.

Tara (98:08)

No, no, no, no, no. Not at o'. Neill. It was the other grandpa that would come on occasionally. You would know Fred Willard. He was the. He was supposed to be into Chevchase's Rolling Community originally. Yeah. That would have been so much better.

Trisha Paytas (98:19)

Yeah.

Tara (98:19)

Give us Fred Willard back from Best In.

Trisha Paytas (98:22)

He was in Best in Show, right?

Tara (98:23)

Fred Willard, Yes. Yes. I love that. You know that movie that's so old. Like, you don't like old movies. That's so random.

Trisha Paytas (98:29)

I loved it at the time. Like, whenever it came out, I think I owned it on DVD or something.

Tara (98:33)

Wow. Yeah, because shit's Greek woman was in it too. Catherine o'. Hara.

Trisha Paytas (98:36)

Oh, yes.

Tara (98:38)

Love her At Home Alone. Love all of it. My other one that I had to make my TikTok about today was. Was Camilla from the Bop House. Do you know her?

Trisha Paytas (98:48)

Yes.

Tara (98:49)

She quit of. Well, she quit making content. She's still. It's still running, which is, like, fine. But she was, like, making a big thing. Like, I quit. I'm done. She's selling online courses for people to learn how to be an influencer and how to make money on influencing. And it's $6,000. Yes. And she makes it. Look, this is not. This is not hate on Camille. But my whole FYP was this too, because people are like, what the hell look, you want from $6,000 on courses? Like, go for it. You know what I mean? Like, whatever. Like, spend your money. I spent money on stupider things, for sure. But basically she, like, it's like, you have to fill out an application and you have to, like, be picked, and then they'll give you a phone call and be like, hey, you were picked. They're like. And I guess on. Like, I was watching people who, like, filled it out and stuff like that. I guess on the application it asks, like, your income, and then if you, like, don't qualify, it says, like, you ask for your credit. Credit score. Or, like, they do a credit check to see if you can make, like, payment plans for it. $6,000 for a course on how to be an influencer, which I thought was crazy because it's not even an of girl. It's like an influencer. Like, she made all her money. I think she said she made, like 20 million or something on of or retired her parents. And the video is very much shot like. Like, here's my private jet. Here's me on a yacht. Like, it's very much all of that. And I thought it was, like, so interesting. So then I was, like, hearing it more because it's not to be an of, it's just to be an influencer, which I thought was, like, kind of interesting. And, like, the also charged 6,000. And her audience that, like, followed her I guess that are doing. Everyone I saw on TikTok were like, females, like, 18, 24, like. Like looking into this. But it was insane. It was wild, strange.

Trisha Paytas (100:20)

Here, I'll give it to you for free. Be hot or beef, honey. There you go. There's that, like, what I was.

Tara (100:27)

That's what my TikTok was. Let me give you three. As someone who's been here 19 years, going on 20 now that's like, now I can say 20 because the 19 years has passed. I'm like, I'm in your 20 years, you know, so 20 years as not even an influencer, because I was there before the influencer before who was the original supermodel who always said that, like, I'm the original supermodel.

Trisha Paytas (100:43)

Do you remember?

Tara (100:44)

Yes, that's me. That's giving me right now. I am the original content creator. Okay? Before there was a content creator, before there was social media, I was there, okay? So I was like, yeah, I was giving the free advice, too. I like what you said. Hot and funny. Like that or funny or. Yeah, hot word is a good combination.

Trisha Paytas (101:02)

Almost impossible.

Tara (101:02)

But it is almost impossible. And then if you are. People don't like you, like the Haley Bailey, they just, like, try to come for her. But yes, I was saying that too. I think, like, truly, like, free. Free advice here is like, I think you have to be. I think you have to have passion. I think you have to love what you do. Like, if you don't love it, people, like, see right through it, right? Like, I. I think that was like, so many people. Like, this is a bad example. But, like, try, guys. Like, we were watching, like, this is, like, so crazy. But, like, I was watching the Beetlejuice and I was like, oh, you could tell, like, Keith was, like, so into Beetlejuice now. See them, like, trying to, like, sell you memberships and, like, weird just how, like, they don't love it, which, I mean, whatever. They got burnt out. And you could just tell when someone doesn't love something anymore. You know what I mean? And as much as I love to, like, talk, Shane, you can tell he loves those conspiracy videos. He does. And you're like, we'll stick with that category. You know what I mean? But if I try to do, like, a beauty tutorial, which I tried to do back in the day when I tried to do. Here's how to do my makeup, and I didn't know how to do it. Like, I sucked at it and nobody wanted to watch it. I love to eat. I love to. Yeah, people Will watch the that. So I think you have to, like, love what you do. So, like, just love. And I think that's also very niche. So, like, if you love something, like, just like, I don't know what's kind of. You love the freaking tin Fish or whatever. So you do it and people watch it. People are like, wow, you love your. You love your kids and playing with Elvis and then, okay, they love it. So I think you have to have passion. I think you have to have persistence. I think you need to post, like, all the time. I post every day. I was posting every day everywhere. I don't think I ever took, like, a week off. I think I took maybe four days off when I was in the mental hospital because I had to.

Trisha Paytas (102:25)

You didn't work right after you.

Tara (102:26)

Yeah, right away I was like, what's it like to be in a mental hospital? Shirt off. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I love it. Like, that goes back to passion, because I love it. Because even in my Flop Tropica era, which was like, 2023, right before this podcast, no one was watching, but I was in that Rolls Royce, drinking in Starbucks, telling people about Hot Topics, and no one cared. But that's okay. I was still posting. So persistence posts all the time. And then I think luck. I think luck has so much to do with it. I think you look at so many people who become popular. I think, like, Mormon Wives is a good example and, like, not hate, because, like, I literally got so lucky. Like, why the hell do people care about me? I don't know. You just get lucky. I think Mormon wives are a good one. Like, I never watched Mom Talk. Never watched Mormon Wives, but I know all their names. You know, I know Jen Affleck, I know Taylor, I know Whitney. And you're like. And now they're doing, like, they're all, like, on huge shows. The Bachelorette and Chicago on Broadway and dancing with this. I was like, damn. But it's. It's luck. Like, you know, they had some scandal that happened. I don't know, someone was in some swinging scandal, I think. And then they all became famous and everyone loved them and they blew up. So I. I think. I think it's also luck and, like, timing and all that. So those are the keys. I don't know about $6,000 classes. I'm not trying to, like, knock anyone's hustle, but I do think it's a little bit of a red flag. I also think it's like, not if you want to sell a course. I'M down for it. Maybe a couple hundred. Six thousand is crazy, right?

Moses (103:40)

Because there's infinite amount of guys that have been doing this over the years, selling courses for, you know, like, oh, you want to be good at crypto, you want to make money, you want to make. It's always about money. Or you want to be a man, you know, and. And you know what I mean? Like all the Andrew Tates and they have open universities, right? Online universities and schools, and they sell all these guy things to guys. So it's been around for a long time. And people have been paying thousands of dollars, really, for the dream that never comes about. Because if you have it, you don't need the course. If you have what it takes. If you really have what it takes, you don't need a course.

Tara (104:16)

Well, maybe people know how to get into it, though. Maybe that's what they're hoping to find, is like, how do you get started? Is like, just post. That's how you get started.

Moses (104:22)

And then some. Yeah. And for some people, they'll find one or two good advices in there that will help them. But altogether, all I'm saying is, like, men have been doing this for a long time. It just happens that now a woman is doing it.

Tara (104:34)

Oh, so you're. You're in support of it.

Moses (104:36)

I'm just saying what she's doing is not that out of the box. It's not that crazy. It's not. There's always somebody that will pay.

Tara (104:43)

Does it sound scammy or does it sound legit, like you think there is someone could, like, benefit? Have you ever paid for a course?

Moses (104:49)

No, I don't.

Tara (104:50)

Never.

Moses (104:51)

I wouldn't say scammy. I would. No, I wouldn't say scammy. I would say cash grab. There's a difference. Because you think there's an opportunity to make money. She's not scamming. She's given what she's promising as far as service, not the outcome. It doesn't mean you will be an influencer, a successful influencer, but she'll give you the tools and what she learned. Same with the guys that teach you how to make money. You know, they'll give you some tricks and ideas, but the reality is, like you said, they were lucky.

Tara (105:19)

Yeah.

Moses (105:20)

They either bought bitcoin when it was low and they were lucky and made a lot of money. Like, oh, let me teach you how to do it. Or you, you were there when YouTube started and you, your career built with it. But nobody can do what you do. Nobody. It's Just not. Yeah, you can't teach luck. You can't teach that part.

Tara (105:36)

Yeah, Yeah. I feel like.

Moses (105:40)

Yeah, but it just makes sense. I mean, to me, it makes sense that university will have a course in how to be an influencer.

Tara (105:46)

That's what I'm saying. Or like, a series.

Moses (105:48)

Social media.

Tara (105:49)

Yeah. Oh, for sure. That. I think it's like American Idol, too, right? All those people that were so talented. Remember Sanjaya? Sanjaya, yeah. Loved him. Where did he go? You know what I mean? Like, so maybe he wasn't the most talented, but I did love it. But you just think about people that were on that show that were, like, so talented, even one. And you're just. Just like, where do they go? You know, a lot of them went like, Fantasia. And that's what I'm saying. Like, luck, too. Like, obviously, they're all very talented. And, like, Kelly Clarkson, Jeff Hudson, like, they're all talented. But I think there is, like, lucky ones, because Taylor Hicks was great.

Trisha Paytas (106:14)

True.

Tara (106:15)

But he's nowhere to be seen.

Trisha Paytas (106:16)

Yeah. Yeah. It takes a lot. And also, there's, like, a star quality thing. Not everyone's cut out for it, so. Yeah.

Tara (106:25)

And also, like, Yeah, I got another piece of it. Like, networking, I think, with, like. Yeah. I think it's just. It's just hard for. Yeah. I don't know. Six thousand's a lot.

Trisha Paytas (106:35)

It's a lot.

Tara (106:36)

Six thousand a lot.

Trisha Paytas (106:37)

Yeah.

Tara (106:38)

I like her. I like her hustle, but I don't know about this one, but my whole FYP was like, this is insane. But like you said, people pay it. And, like, I guess there's. You talk about, like, placebo a lot, but maybe it's a little placebo where you, like, pay the money and you feel good and you're like, okay, I'm gonna hit the ground running now, so. Because no matter what she tells you, she'll tell you everything I just did, which is, like, network with people. Then because you paid for this money, you're like, okay, now I really got to go out there. That's how I was with a therapist when my therapist, like, just socialize. I was like, period. And I was, like, texting Shane. You know what I mean? So I guess in a way, it's kind of the same way you're, like, paying someone to tell you maybe the obvious.

Trisha Paytas (107:07)

Yeah. I guess the only thing I can think of, too, is, like, maybe you get, like, access to some of, like, the contacts or agencies that she has, like, those connections, which those are harder to get.

Tara (107:19)

Like, yeah, that'd be worth it.

Trisha Paytas (107:20)

Connections into like, you know, every. It's all is like a weird friend group thing. I mean, even like doing this, it's like getting. When everything comes like 10. But like one of Ted Nivisin's friends who also streams is watching this and she like, you know, it is like all very like, weirdly kind of interconnected that way. So having that access is like an advantage for sure. But I think there's ways to go about it where you're not paying that much money.

Tara (107:44)

Yeah, it was like a team 10 thing where she could have like a little house and just take percentages of people's money. I think it's better. Like, agents do this too. Like they don't get paid unless you get paid. Right. So it's like you should. A good rule of thumb, as someone who's been to lots of scammers. Not saying she is, but I've been to a lot of scammers. John Robert Powers, back in the day. Do you remember them?

Trisha Paytas (107:59)

No.

Tara (107:59)

They were in the papers. And you'd go to a mall and you like, audition and get like, signed to a model agency. Yeah. And you get like, you get to pay like 6,000, literally $6,000 to like, do this agency. And they always told me, like, the best rule is like, if you have to pay up front, it's probably not like, super legit for you. But like I said, I spent money on dumb things. So, like, whatever you want to do, but like, even agents and managers, like, they shouldn't. You should never have to pay up front. Because a lot of those adult. Oof. Like assistance management programs, they like, have you pay up front, like a membership fee. Like, it's never a good idea to pay up front. I would never do that. If anything, a percentage. But even then you gotta, like, be careful, so.

Moses (108:41)

And probably the people that sign up for it are people that have the money. Like, it's not. 6000 is not a lot for them.

Tara (108:47)

No, but that's the gag. There's a payment plan. They were saying that. I don't know if you were in here when I was talking about the beginning half of this, but they were talking about, like, how they do a credit check because they want to like, be able to put you on a payment plan if you can afford, because they ask your income. And then if your income doesn't qualify, then they ask to a credit check. So that way you can be on a payment plan that after pay, which is kind of everything. I love an after. Well, I don't know if I love an afterpay, but I guess. Good. If you want to do something. Maybe not this, but maybe if you.

Moses (109:08)

Want to do something, maybe you should first take the course for financials from the other guys. And then when he could afford it.

Trisha Paytas (109:20)

Yeah. And then there's a podcaster.

Tara (109:25)

God, I don't know his name. He's like, on my ex, Like, X is so messy. Because I don't want to follow any of these people.

Trisha Paytas (109:30)

It's like, it's the fy, but, like.

Tara (109:32)

Why they show me this one person who, like, he. His whole podcast is, like, just humiliating people financially. Have you seen this?

Moses (109:38)

Yes. Yeah.

Tara (109:39)

And he's just like. But then he tries to defend. Like, I don't follow this person. I don't know what is. But he just tries to defend himself, like, oh, we're actually, like, helping people. And like, whatever. He, like, does, like, audits for them or something like that. And I'm just like, what is the point of this? Like, I just don't understand these. He gives me the. I don't know what he does, but he gives me the vibe that he'd be writing a class of, like, how to. Like, how to get rich or something. Isn't there a book? I think I bought a book called how to Get Rich. I think back in. I have plenty of books, and I feel like there is one of those, but those kind of things. I'm always like, I don't know. Guys with podcasts, guys with courses. I feel like you bought a course. You're like, laughing. You've never bought a course for anything.

Moses (110:12)

What kind of a course?

Trisha Paytas (110:15)

There was that website that, like, I don't know if they still do, but they would sponsor youtubers all the time, but it was like, it would be like, you can sign up and then you can pick a class. I took an editing class. Like a couple. Maybe like 20.

Tara (110:26)

That makes sense. Like, they're teaching you a skill.

Trisha Paytas (110:28)

Yeah.

Tara (110:28)

It sounds like a class.

Trisha Paytas (110:29)

Yeah.

Moses (110:30)

Technical thing.

Trisha Paytas (110:31)

Yeah. I've done, like, one of those.

Tara (110:32)

Yeah. It doesn't seem too scammy.

Trisha Paytas (110:34)

Yeah.

Tara (110:34)

I think how to be, like, an influencer, how to model or something is like. But like I said, I guess if you get connections, but really rarely that happens. But maybe. Maybe that's what she's doing. I like her. She's making a lot of money. But I think just scamming is a bad word. Maybe just, you know, the men. Just pulling one over on the men, you know, because I know a lot of Ofers do. Is not just her, but, like, where people will be like, come see my kitty cat. And then you, like, open it and it's just like, not.

Trisha Paytas (110:54)

Yeah.

Tara (110:55)

I think people do that all the time. To me, that feels a little scammy. Not her specifically, but I think we talked about Scotty Siren.

Trisha Paytas (111:00)

Yeah. The vlog. Squatters do that.

Tara (111:01)

Yeah. And you're just like. Well, that seems like fraud. Like, if you're like, come see my big hole and it's like a hole in the wall or something, you're just like.

Moses (111:11)

Yeah.

Tara (111:12)

That to me is like, you actually scam somebody.

Trisha Paytas (111:15)

Yeah. And it's a whole. I think, like, it's. I forget how it worked. There was like an article about this. Like, there was like, if you try to get a refund after that, then, like, your whole account gets like. Like you can't subscribe to anyone else on of because, like, it'll file everything, all those charges as fraud.

Tara (111:34)

Yeah. To me, I feel like you could say, like, come. I don't know. There's so many ways to clickbait it without being like, come see my nipples. And then no nipples. And you're just like, watch, like, see.

Trisha Paytas (111:43)

All of me like you've never seen before. I show it all throbbing for you. And then it's like from every. You're just wearing, like, underwear.

Tara (111:53)

Yeah. I feel like maybe that's like a place in hell.

Trisha Paytas (111:56)

You know what I mean?

Tara (111:56)

Because it's like, that's crazy because people, like, I know the people on the sites, like, I don't want to call them, like, perverts or anything that. But they probably have some sort of issues that they're paying for it. Right. You know what I mean? Like, they probably have some addiction or some. I don't know, whatever. No judgment. I've done it. Whatever. But. And yeah, you. I don't know, you don't feel bad taking their money because they're paying for something. Whatever. But when you're not giving what you say.

Trisha Paytas (112:17)

Yeah. Like the false advertising.

Tara (112:19)

Yeah. I think they're happy to pay if you're clothed. I'm sure they will pay for that. Like, maybe.

Trisha Paytas (112:23)

Honest. Yeah, but I. Dude, I know with too. It's a lot of the time, like, they have agencies, like, doing all that for them. But again, I guess it goes into, like, that problem too. Agencies always get a little dicey. Even, like groups like Faze Clan broke up over Christmas break.

Moses (112:38)

They were still around.

Tara (112:39)

That's what my thought was. I was like, what? Who's watching Faze?

Trisha Paytas (112:45)

They're really Popular What?

Tara (112:48)

I never hear anything about them except for this. I was like, what? I know Phase Clan and Faze Banks is the.

Trisha Paytas (112:55)

The runner. Runner. The guy in charge of Phase.

Tara (112:58)

But I think he's out now.

Trisha Paytas (113:00)

Well, he was the last one standing because, yeah, it was him in charge, but all the other phasers, like, phased out. Well, I only knew because Cutie, everyone started. Like, the first one I saw, I think she did as a joke, but she was like, I'm leaving Faze Clan. And I was like, what? You were in Faz. Oh, was she? And then I think by association, because those are all her friends. And then, yeah, all these really popular streamer guys. And I was like, I guess these groups. And it all came down basically from my minimal research, was like, they were allegedly holding out, like, sponsorships or holding too much money. Like, not giving the streamers, like, a fair share kind of Team 10 vibes. Isn't that how it broke apart? So my thesis is maybe these groups are not the best. Yeah. You know, like, I think.

Tara (113:48)

Yeah, I think all the goes. Yeah. Maybe don't join anything that sounds like, what is it? That cult. What is it like. Yeah, I guess a little culty vibes. It's giving.

Moses (113:58)

It is a little pyramid scheme kind of thing, because you have somebody that's really popular, he's the bigger one, and they bring under them more and more and more.

Trisha Paytas (114:05)

Yeah.

Moses (114:06)

Build the platform. Like I said, they hold the funds, they get the sponsorships. They hold it, take percentages.

Tara (114:12)

There's a whole thing with Faze Banks, too, over Christmas that he was hanging out with, like, Charlie D'. Amelio. Yeah, like 20.

Trisha Paytas (114:17)

One of the phasers alleged that he like Charlie D', Amelio, which he Faze Banks denied. One of those phasers claimed that he was befriending her when she was 16 or 17. But faze banks did show, like, receipts that he only started talking to her for in a friendly way after she was 18. And also Charlie said as well, they only talked, not even romantically, just, like, exchanged DMS after she turned 18.

Tara (114:47)

Well, his exact quote was that their relationship is no one's business, which is always a red flag. You could just be like, we're just friends.

Trisha Paytas (114:57)

Yeah, I know.

Tara (114:58)

Zach justice tried to pull that, like, we were just friends. Okay. To be like, our relationship was no one's business. That's giving me. And I get it. Like, 19. Okay. Yes. Again, once again, legal. We get that, but. So you're 30?

Trisha Paytas (115:10)

Yeah. How old is he?

Tara (115:12)

He's 34. Oh, yes. So I was like, I don't know what this is. You know when people try to, like, prove something and then you're kind of just like, maybe just should have said anything, because I get it.

Trisha Paytas (115:22)

Like, we were like, the buttons.

Tara (115:24)

Right, Right. We don't need to show it.

Trisha Paytas (115:26)

We don't need to.

Tara (115:27)

And he was like, show. He's like, look, like. Like, I'm FaceTime autoing her right now. You're just like.

Trisha Paytas (115:32)

And she tweeted like a thumb.

Moses (115:33)

Like a.

Trisha Paytas (115:34)

You know, she replied with some emoji. I was like, oh, okay, cool, Charlie. But not. Yeah.

Tara (115:38)

Now you're like, yeah. So weird to be friends with someone 19 when you're 30, in my opinion. I don't know what I mean. You know what I mean? Like, it's just. It's just weird. It's just odd. It's weird. I don't know. That's what I'm telling you. This, like, teen thing. Another thing I'm gonna do when I get to House of Congress is I'm going to definitely put adult at 20. At least 20. Like, what do you mean, 18? Like, you. Like, 17 to 18 isn't just, like magic. You're not a kid anymore. Like, you're still. You're still a teen. You're still a teen. Being friends of the teen. Maybe not it.

Trisha Paytas (116:06)

Yeah.

Tara (116:07)

At all. I was seeing Nick Vile to all over my FYP because he has that show coming out with Netflix. It's 22 to 59 is the ages of the show, which is insane. 22 to 59. 22 to 59 year old are gonna, like, match up. Like, I'm sorry, love Netflix. But what.

Moses (116:26)

I mean, almost like that show. What was it with the parents and their kids?

Trisha Paytas (116:30)

Cougar House or something.

Tara (116:32)

Oh, yes. Cougar Island. No, I know. Oh, MILF Island. Was it MILF Island? Yeah, Yeah, I think it was. Yeah. The one we watched with the moms and the.

Moses (116:39)

Literally. Yeah.

Tara (116:40)

They were, like, dating and the other.

Trisha Paytas (116:41)

The sons were dating other milk.

Tara (116:43)

Yes, yes.

Trisha Paytas (116:44)

And they're all living in one mansion.

Tara (116:45)

Yes.

Trisha Paytas (116:46)

They did MILF Manor or something.

Tara (116:47)

That sounds right. Yes, yes. MILF Manor, at least. Right? Yeah. Weird, I guess. Honestly, that was weird, too. This is really weird. This is like, what? And just the poster child of age gap relationships should not be. That's all I'm saying. They're just all over my nyp. I will click not interested a thousand times and they still come out because I tell Moses these stories all the time. And, like, I'm not Trying to hate because I'm like, okay, we just, like, I'm just trying to move on and like, not like bother with people I don't really care about. But we. There was another airplane incident with them. Remember I showed the other one.

Trisha Paytas (117:20)

There was another one with the baby.

Tara (117:22)

Again where they were sitting together, this.

Moses (117:24)

Time using the babies as weapons.

Tara (117:26)

Yeah. This one was like, like they need.

Trisha Paytas (117:28)

To be on the no fly list at this point. Like, what?

Tara (117:31)

The way they were talking about the story is they were both in business class this time, I think, and they could. And. And I'm sorry, I don't know her name. Nick, file the wife. Akash. I. I don't want to be that woman that says Nick. Val's wife. What is her name?

Trisha Paytas (117:42)

Let me see. Natalie. Joy.

Tara (117:44)

Natalie. Joy. Natalie was like, oh. I looked over her shoulder and you know, I like, her phone was bright, so I was reading her messages. Then it was like lit up. So I was watching. And she goes, you don't want the people to read your messages. Like, tone down the brightness or something. So she. I was just, I was reading it and all of a sudden I saw her, these people behind me with a baby. Like, their baby won't stop crying or something. And then she goes, she said, their baby won't stop crying. And then she goes. So I told her it's T H E I R or something because she spelled there wrong. Right? And then she's like, what are you reading my messages? And she's like, are you texting about my baby? And then she's like, she like turned around and then she wrote she confronted me or something like that. So she was still reading her text messages. So then Nick, like, so I put the baby as close as I can to have her kick and hit the screen as hard as she could to the lady in front of us. So he like held the baby up in the screen. So the baby's like punching the thing as hard. He's like, I just loved it so much. I was like, here, do it. What is happening with them flying in their baby? So crazy. Like, it's crazy. If anyone rage rate, I hope they're rage rating because it's so insane.

Trisha Paytas (118:40)

Everything that has to be a fake story.

Tara (118:42)

This is the second airplane. But like, also, why would you want to put that out there as like parents? Like, we used our 18 month old to like terrorize someone in front of us.

Trisha Paytas (118:52)

Like, it's to get revenge on someone who was venting about being on a plane. It's not like she took the megaphone from the flight attendant. It was like, attention passengers, there's an annoying baby on this flight in business class. Put your AirPods in and like noise canceling on like, she literally was just venting in a text message. That's what you get for being nosy. Like, that's on you for your nosy hearing. And reading my text messages. I would literally just be texting next just to piss her off, right? I would turn around and show Nick Vile my iPhone screen. I would say, this is what I'm typing. You want to proofread this? What that actually is.

Tara (119:28)

It was crazy.

Trisha Paytas (119:28)

I can't.

Tara (119:29)

Everything I was like finding about at them, they were like, oh, we hosted for Christmas. And you know, my family came down and I was cooking eggs for Natalie and our baby and they're like, oh, what's for breakfast? He's like, what's for breakfast? This is for my wife and baby. And everyone's just like, why you're like hosting these people? Everything I find out about them is totally against my will. I do not, do not want to know about them. I do not watch them. It's like me watching women who are pissed off watching. So it's like maybe it's the rage made of it all, but it's just like not a good look. I'm just like. And then her age cannot be found online. By the way. If you type in Natalie Joy, it's not on there. So they say they met when she was like almost 20, but everyone's saying no, she had just turned 19. Like there's like a debate.

Trisha Paytas (120:05)

That is crazy.

Tara (120:06)

There's an 18 year age gap. So everyone's like, no, she was almost 20 or something. There's no date, right? There's no birthday.

Trisha Paytas (120:12)

Oh my God. Around 25 or 26 is what currently. Yeah, that's crazy around.

Tara (120:22)

But people I could find on the Instagram based on like when they met and stuff like that. And then she says something like, you know, I slid into his DMS and she was. I was like number 17 on his list of like people. He goes, yeah, you got to work your way up the ladder. I'm like, I would actually divorce somebody if they said that about me. Like, it was so wild the stuff I find out about them. Anyways, it was. That was my.

Moses (120:39)

That's insane. What do you mean work your way around?

Tara (120:41)

Yeah, she's like, she. I know. I was like 17 on the list or something. And he goes, yeah, you got to work your way up. Like cuz she.

Moses (120:45)

She 17 girls ahead of her.

Tara (120:47)

Yeah.

Moses (120:48)

In his list.

Tara (120:48)

Yeah.

Moses (120:49)

Yeah.

Tara (120:49)

I was like, I don't get it.

Trisha Paytas (120:51)

No, I'm. He was a villain. He was a reality TV villain. It was all like, yeah, he was vile.

Tara (120:57)

Literally.

Trisha Paytas (120:57)

Yeah.

Tara (120:58)

Everything I found out about them is.

Moses (120:59)

That I'm just like, I'm just worried about the babies. They're raising them to be like. Like these crazy bullies that are going to be.

Tara (121:04)

I mean, hopefully it's rage bait. Hopefully it's not real. Just it's.

Moses (121:08)

I don't know. When you use your babies in your stories, it's kind of.

Tara (121:10)

Yeah.

Moses (121:11)

A whole different level of rage bait.

Tara (121:14)

It is very odd and Netflix. I don't know what's happening over there, but we love you. Not the show. My interracial show didn't get picked up, but age gap does. Like, at least there's no power dynamic between fatties and skinnies. I would say fatties have the upper hand, some taste for hand. Like, you know, it's not like, also that age gap, Charlie. All in the same tax bracket. Like, you know, like, I don't understand because they're always going to be a power imbalance with who makes more money, who's more stable. It's like that. Like, I don't. I'm not watching it. I'm not watching it. If I see clips of it, I'm putting not interested. But freaking tick tock keeps giving me interested. When I say I'm not interested, I'm like you. I don't like to be enraged too much. Between Chevy Chase and Nick Viall, I'm being enraged all the time. But it is.

Moses (121:59)

I mean, it sounds bad when the show starts. It sounds like there's gonna be a ton of content that will.

Tara (122:04)

I know. I just. This is never a good idea. That is weird. That's so weird. And again, having them host. I'm sure there's age gap couples who are, like, more of age to, like, a Catherine Zeta Jones and a Michael Douglas. You know, they're like 50 and 75. Cast them, like, they seem like more equipped to, like, host a show, you know, like, they've only been married like, a year. I was like, oh, I don't know if this is, like, the best example, but anyways, Dane Cook and his wife will be watching. I'm sure.

Trisha Paytas (122:36)

My FYP was all the drag race drama, which.

Tara (122:39)

Oh, I didn't hear.

Trisha Paytas (122:40)

I know it. This is a whole. Both me. Me and Jimmy were very passionate about it. You know Ginger Minch, do you remember her?

Tara (122:49)

Kind of not really?

Trisha Paytas (122:51)

She was on Drag Race 7 and All Star 10 and All Stars 2 and All Stars 5 or 6. She's been on it a lot. A lot.

Tara (123:02)

Okay.

Trisha Paytas (123:04)

But she is. Oh, she was former plus size girl, but Nam, she is skinny now.

Tara (123:09)

She had the GLP one. Well, tries appetite maybe.

Trisha Paytas (123:13)

Allegedly.

Tara (123:14)

Everyone. I mean, come on. I can't wait. If I. If I ever go on a dlpy, I can't wait to go be like, no, guys adjust working out. Like, what are you. Like, what if you were fat and you got skinny? You did a GLP1 period. And there's nothing wrong with that. Damn. People are just so crazy. Okay, she got skinny.

Trisha Paytas (123:32)

Yes. But that, that's unrelated, I suppose, to the drama. I love that. So Ginger Min, she won All Stars 10. And she was. She's been doing press lately. So she was on the Kelly Mansell show, which is another joke Drag Race podcast, and she was talking about her experiences on All Stars 10. And she said that going into All Stars 10, I'd been in the hospital for a long time. I got really sick. I got coveted, which turned into pneumonia, and I really thought I was going to die. So that's what she said. She found out when she got the call. But then a fan on Twitter was said, I love Ginger. But she also said this about getting the call. And in another interview when the show came out, she was like, I was on a cruise with Denali and we were having the best time and we both got the call to come on the show and we were trying to, like, act like we didn't get it. So we were like, they're like, well, which one is it? Were you about to die or were you on a cruise? Now, Ginger went on to clarify, there's, like, different levels of calls that you get. So one call, she was really sick. One call, she was on a cruise. But then she also said that she didn't feel supported by her castmates. Basically, the fans really wanted, like, either, like, George's to win that season or Lydia B. Collins or mistress Isabel Brooks. Yeah, it was this past All Star. Yeah.

Tara (124:46)

Okay.

Trisha Paytas (124:47)

Yeah. So people were really, really rooting for, like, Lydia George's mistress, Isabelle Brooks. But who won?

Tara (124:53)

Oh, Ginger.

Trisha Paytas (124:54)

Ginger. Yeah. So, and people, the fans kind of thought it was set up for Ginger to win because she's been on so many seasons. She was on Broadway. She's been in all.

Tara (125:03)

What was she on Broadway?

Trisha Paytas (125:04)

She did some show on Broadway. She was in a move. She was in all these movies. Movies as well. She was in Hocus Pocus 2. She was in a movie with Jennifer Aniston. Like, she's gotten a lot of mainstream success, so people kind of thought it was unfair for gender. So fans were kind of mad that she got another opportunity, but her fans were mad. Drag Race fans. Yeah. And she said that she felt, like, very unsupported by the other castmates when she was getting, like, a lot of hate online and a lot of backlash from the fans. And she said the only. Only people that, like, really reached out to her were Mistress Isabel Brooks and Lydia B. Collins.

Tara (125:38)

Love them.

Trisha Paytas (125:39)

But then every other girl in that was on the season said, ginger, that's not true. Everyone was like, had receipts of being like, I texted you. I had your back. George's who. She quit Twitter, but George's came back, just decided Diabetty, who was like, I was reaching out to you every day. Like, I was on your side. And George just came back to Twitter and said, you really had her back. And they all had, like, receipts and stuff saying, like, reached out. But we kept reaching out to you, but you would make everything about yourself, and we all just kind of got sick of, like, having to deal with you because everything would be about you making yourself the victim.

Tara (126:12)

Oh, no.

Trisha Paytas (126:13)

And then after this came out, like, there's been all these montages of all, like, these lies that Ginger Minj has been saying over the years. Like, there was one where she did a movie with Jennifer Aniston, and she was doing an interview. This was like, 20, maybe 15, 2014 scene. It was like, yeah, Jennifer Aniston. Like, you would think she's so famous. But she came to me on set and she was like, you're amazing, girl. And she gave me. She gave me my morning coffee. And the interviewer was like, oh, Jennifer Aniston was doing the PA Duties on this movie.

Tara (126:41)

Well, she did so brought seaweed to me in the makeup trailer. She does.

Trisha Paytas (126:50)

But then she was like an all star sound. Like when Cynthia Erivo and Ariana Grande were the guest judges. Like, I remember standing out on the Runway, and all of a sudden, Cynthia Erivo just bursts out in an Alphabet battle cry. And it cuts to the rest of the cast members being like, I don't remember that. I don't think that happened. Like, they're all being like, that wasn't real. So there's all these, like, lies that she's been telling.

Tara (127:12)

Maybe she has mental illness. I mean, not a bad way. Like, I have borderline. Lucas has borderline. It comes with lying a lot of the time. Sometimes you just can't help help it. Sometimes you just. Sometimes also, you think of things. Right. You manifest. You're deluded, and you think it actually happened.

Trisha Paytas (127:27)

That's what I kind of think. There's been. She says it so confidently and so, like, genuinely that I really do think she believes. Lies. It. It kind of reminds me.

Tara (127:36)

Yeah, you, like, envision something. I. Oh, writing this thing. I can't talk about. I really had to, like, okay, let me think. Did that actually happen or was I, like, hoping, you know, like, you have to, like, really think about it? Because that's what sometimes happens when you have a big brain, a big imagination.

Trisha Paytas (127:50)

I do think that is kind of what is happening. Literally, all the girls From All Stars 10 have come out. Bob the Drag Queen has spoken out against Ginger Minj as well. It was. It's been crazy. So that's been. My whole FYP is, like, different clips of Ginger Minj lying. And especially, like, this is one of the situations where, like, even the girls who aren't involved in drama, like the Ruger mistress, Isabel Brooks, of course, like, Messy Queen. Yeah, she. In fact, she was like, I don't know why Ginger's saying. I reached out to her because then she made a YouTube video with Georgia saying, like, with the receipts. I reached out to her one time, and I was like, girl, I hope you're good. Don't let the hate get to you. I reached, and she's like. I texted her once, and she was.

Tara (128:25)

Like, oh, my God, that's so weird.

Trisha Paytas (128:28)

Yeah. So she even lied about.

Tara (128:30)

I just asked you one time.

Trisha Paytas (128:32)

So Ginger even lied about Mistress reaching out to her all the time. It's so weird.

Tara (128:36)

Do we like her? Do you like her?

Trisha Paytas (128:38)

I mean, I thought she was fine. She's very talented. But the lying has been, like, so nuts. But I do think. Yeah, it's one of those things where I do think she believes, and I do. She makes herself the victim a lot. It's like, girl, you won. Like, I mean, who cares what they're saying? Like, we still won. So, yeah, maybe she knows it's true.

Tara (128:55)

That I was, like, set up that.

Trisha Paytas (128:57)

Well, she says she was mad about that, too. She was. Said in another interview, she was like, they think it's a whole conspiracy. Like, no, I was actually. I actually. The producers almost set me up because they made all the challenges that were things in my wheelhouse, but it's like. So you agree. Yeah.

Tara (129:11)

That you were set up. Yeah, no, I think that happened all the time. I told you all the Time, like celebrity rather, too. I think our season, our winner was always gonna be the winner because she was always up for elimination. She never had to pack her bags, but we did.

Trisha Paytas (129:20)

It is. Yeah.

Tara (129:21)

Like, you can. You don't shake. I don't need to pack my bags.

Trisha Paytas (129:23)

I feel like RuPaul kind of gets favorites sometimes, and that's kind of the name of the game.

Tara (129:27)

It is what it is.

Trisha Paytas (129:28)

Yeah.

Tara (129:28)

I mean, it's like if. If she's very popular and she's been on these things. Like, that's what I'm saying. Sometimes, like, longevity just proves it all. It's like if you've just been here five times on All Stars. Okay, we'll give you the win.

Trisha Paytas (129:37)

Yeah. And to my conspiracy, my personal conspiracy is like, she got away with the lies for so long because she was plus size, but now that she's skinny, you don't have the privilege of being.

Tara (129:47)

Messy, you know, like, cancel that GLP1 appointment. I. I do think about that, right? Because it's like, I mean, I need to look okay this year. I do need to lose weight, right. If you see me losing some weight, it's because I. I need to get my implants out. And I. In order to get implants out, I got to be under £200, so I need to lose, like £40. So I do have to lose weight one way or the other, but I don't think I need to be skinny. But. But then who was telling me that they lost too much weight on their GLP1? Not. Nobody was telling me this. I was reading it somewhere. God, who? Oh, Oprah maybe. Well, I saw her saying that she needed to be on JLP once forever because she thought she could do it without it. And then she like. But I think it was Remy Jo Bader who did the weight loss surgery, who said she lost more weight than she wanted to and she, like, couldn't. There was nothing she could do to stop it, which is interesting. But, yeah, I. I do think that's probably true. When people get skinny, they're more like, even jelly roll losing much weight. I thought, like, a lot of people on my ex, again, X has the worst people on there. I'm not defending this, but. But, like, people being like, oh, some people just look better fat. Like, he looks so crazy now. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (130:44)

Especially for him. Cuz he opened up about it being like a big health thing that he was like, he had really bad food addiction. He compared it to, like, his drug, like, drug or alcohol addiction. Like, it was that bad for him. And how he was like, couldn't even sleep in the same bed as Bunny because he didn't fit in the king size bed, which is so sad. So he would have to. They would have to put two queen mattresses together just for him to fit. Like, he couldn't even, like, wipe his butt. Like he was that overweight.

Tara (131:11)

Yeah, Yeah, I can imagine.

Trisha Paytas (131:12)

Like, he had so many, like, physical problems and also just like the mental and dealing with food addiction. And he genuinely, like, there's pro, like, documentation of him, like, over the years, like, working out, like, running. Like, he's been working at it for so long.

Tara (131:27)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (131:27)

And I can't imagine, like, finally getting. I think he's down, like, almost half. He's like 256. But he was like, crazy. Yeah. He lost a crazy amount of weight and he's like, so proud.

Tara (131:35)

And then everyone just like, look better.

Trisha Paytas (131:37)

Yeah.

Tara (131:37)

Like, I know. No, it is, it is so sad. People, People are. No matter what weight you are, very few people who have lost weight, they're like, they look great usually for like, too skinny.

Trisha Paytas (131:48)

And then I keep seeing post, she's like, what is the Hollywood obsession with being skinny? Well, when they're fat, you, you're.

Tara (131:55)

I was getting so much fat. Shamed on Trishma. So I was just like, okay, okay. Not for my people, but just people online. And I was just like, yeah, you're just not happy either way.

Trisha Paytas (132:02)

Yeah.

Tara (132:03)

Or too skinny or. I don't know.

Trisha Paytas (132:06)

Have you. Did you watch the new season of Drag Race?

Tara (132:08)

It started?

Trisha Paytas (132:09)

Yes. It just premiered on Friday. This past Friday.

Tara (132:11)

I don't know where to watch it. Where do you watch it?

Trisha Paytas (132:13)

I watch it on wow. Presents Plus.

Tara (132:15)

It's like its own app.

Trisha Paytas (132:16)

It's its own app. Yeah.

Tara (132:17)

We need to start watching. I love it. We loved it last year. When did it start?

Trisha Paytas (132:20)

It just started this past Friday.

Tara (132:22)

Watch it.

Trisha Paytas (132:22)

It was really good. Yeah.

Moses (132:23)

It's literally every year on a different platform.

Trisha Paytas (132:26)

It's hard to keep up with. Actually see episode one they put on YouTube. Drag Race. Yeah. Yeah.

Tara (132:33)

Filo, I think, is where we were watching it.

Trisha Paytas (132:36)

I. I kind of go through hoops. I. I have wild Presents plus, but then I have the VPN to England because it's. It's not in the US because of the. It's on MTV in the us But MTV shut down. What?

Tara (132:49)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (132:49)

Didn't it just say TRL did like.

Tara (132:51)

No, MTV is down. It's close. Closed. Google it.

Trisha Paytas (132:54)

You know, it's not showing music videos anymore.

Tara (132:56)

I think it's done Everyone said MTV finished on Friday or something.

Trisha Paytas (133:02)

MTV music channels. So, like.

Tara (133:04)

Yeah, so what? What are you watching?

Trisha Paytas (133:06)

So it is, like, the MTV ch. Like, okay, MTV music. MTV, 80s, MTV, 90s club, MTV. MTV live. Those are all the music channels. Those are all gone. But MTV, where, like, team mom or 16 and pregnant or Drag Race.

Tara (133:18)

Okay. Why is everyone being so dramatic about that back then? They're like, oh, my. I didn't know.

Trisha Paytas (133:22)

Like, an era of, like, MTV airing music videos.

Tara (133:25)

But where would you even watch MTV Music?

Trisha Paytas (133:28)

I guess if you have, like, a cable. A crazy cable package is what, again, like, okay. Yeah, it isn't okay.

Tara (133:34)

So you're watching it on mtv. That's still around.

Trisha Paytas (133:37)

So, yeah, it's Drag race is on MTV. I watch it all on wild presents plus. Because if you VPN to England on wild presents plus, you can get the U.S. yeah, because they have deals, like, in the country that it airs.

Tara (133:50)

That's confusing.

Trisha Paytas (133:51)

Yeah. But also, plus has Canada's Drag Race, and I love Canada's Drag Race.

Tara (133:55)

Who won? Did you watch? You were. You were into it this season in Canada.

Trisha Paytas (133:59)

It's still. It's. They're on the Final Five right now.

Tara (134:02)

Oh, they went over Christmas break.

Trisha Paytas (134:05)

Yeah, it's the same. It airs in Canada. The same network that he did Rivalry airs on Crave. So I guess if you have a Canadian show, you'd be on Crave, too, because that seems like the gay channel, I'm assuming.

Moses (134:16)

Yeah.

Tara (134:16)

I'm going.

Trisha Paytas (134:17)

Just from my limited knowledge.

Tara (134:18)

I would move to Canada. I would totally move to Canada because it's like the US but better. You know what I mean? Like, there's, like, free health care and there's.

Trisha Paytas (134:25)

You, like, the food there.

Tara (134:27)

You know what? Yeah, I went to that. It was all over the news. What was that place I went to?

Moses (134:33)

It's like a hibachi place.

Tara (134:34)

It was a hibachi place. I can't remember. Literally, there was, like, like, a thousand news articles. Like, if you type in, because I do my name sometimes in the news section, like, Trish Paycheck News. See what pops up. And, like, everything was like, Trisha Paytas went to Vancouver Hibachi Steakhouse. It was like in Moses. Like, it was everywhere, obviously. Must be like an AI or a bot or something doing all these things. It was like, so many articles. I look crazy. I'm, like, wearing one of their hats. I have no makeup. I look insane. I like, the lighting was horrific. Like, I look like a troll. But, like, it was the best hibachi I had Even better than Benihana.

Trisha Paytas (135:01)

Wow.

Tara (135:02)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (135:02)

And I can't think.

Tara (135:03)

Shout out Vancouver. I cannot think of the name of that state. Kobe. Kobe steak. Which is crazy because that's the name of a steak. But it's called Kobe Steakhouse in Vancouver, so. Oh, Cineplex. Their movie theater popcorn. My TikTok has 2 million views eating Cineplex movie theater popcorn. It is so, so good. It is so. The nacho. Go watch it. Go watch it. The nachos are like 50 nachos on each thing with the double cheese. That's nice and warm. Like the Cineplex movie theater. Food up there was superb. I couldn't stop eating. That's when I gained all the way. I ate like five meals. I went to the Cactus Club and got chicken fingers. That's where Drake has that song about his bellini or whatever is from there. I was going to all the spots. Tim Hortons is great. If you're at the airport. It's like, I love love. I love Vancouver specifically.

Trisha Paytas (135:48)

It does look good.

Tara (135:50)

It's so good. Cineplex. It was right by our hotel. It was so I. I had like five meals that day. Not even exaggerating. It was so delicious. So the food's actually very yummy. The people are very nice. I don't know. I would. I would move there.

Trisha Paytas (136:06)

Yeah, maybe.

Tara (136:07)

Maybe.

Trisha Paytas (136:07)

Yeah. If you get cast and heated rivalry season two, you'll have to be.

Tara (136:10)

Would love.

Trisha Paytas (136:11)

Yeah.

Tara (136:11)

Would you. Would you act in the movie like that or show like that?

Trisha Paytas (136:15)

No, you would not. No.

Tara (136:16)

You wouldn't show your body?

Trisha Paytas (136:17)

No.

Tara (136:18)

Really?

Trisha Paytas (136:19)

Especially if I'm like with those two. With Connor and Hudson. Like. What? No, no.

Tara (136:26)

I think there's something nice to see. Am I using this word, right? Dichotomy.

Trisha Paytas (136:31)

Yeah, sure.

Tara (136:32)

A little dichotomy in the scene. You know what I mean? Like to see. It's very like. And I mean this in like a nice way. Like, I. I love watching it too. It's like a. Like a Nicola Coughlin. Like in Bridgerton. Like, she has. It's nice to see. Right? There's thin bodies in that. In Bridgeton. A lot of thin bodies. And they're beautiful, of course. See naked. But I like that you saw some, like, roundness, some softness. You know what I mean? Because I have that kind of body. And she looked beautiful. She looked great. But, you know, just like a little softness to it. So I think some people would like to see. I don't know what your body looks like. You could be hard under there. You could be Soft. I don't know. But I'm just saying, from what I'm gathering from you is you don't have a hard body like them, so it would be nice to see a little softness next to it if you're soft. I don't know.

Trisha Paytas (137:08)

Yeah.

Tara (137:09)

I'm assuming by context clues, but I think that could be. I think you could see you in that show. You know, one of them was a YouTuber.

Trisha Paytas (137:17)

Yeah. Connor. He had his whole. Yeah, he talked about it recently.

Tara (137:22)

I love that. I love. I. I love seeing a little boy with passion like that. He just looked excited again.

Trisha Paytas (137:28)

Passion.

Tara (137:29)

Look at persistence and luck. I know. Yeah, that's the course. $6,000.

Trisha Paytas (137:35)

You're welcome, Connor.

Tara (137:36)

Yeah, you're welcome. It really does pay off. It's really. Yeah, I like that show. I'd be on it.

Trisha Paytas (137:46)

His username was actor boy222.

Tara (137:48)

Love.

Trisha Paytas (137:49)

That is so.

Tara (137:49)

Love. The angel number. The actor boy.

Trisha Paytas (137:52)

Yes.

Tara (137:53)

Oh, my God, yes.

Trisha Paytas (137:56)

And he said. I am not. He said, this is my first YouTube video, though. My username is actor boy 222. But if you don't know why that is, it's because mostly I am not in the public and that he wants to be an actor. Wow, that is so cute.

Tara (138:10)

I love that.

Trisha Paytas (138:11)

I love that manifestation. That's a good. Yeah, he's a good graduate of the Trisha Paytas class with that.

Tara (138:18)

Maybe he knows. Maybe he knows. How old is he? Is he like.

Trisha Paytas (138:22)

Yeah, he's 25.

Tara (138:23)

Yeah, it's young. That's crazy. 25, like, doesn't seem young. But then when you put it in perspective, like, that was like 12 years ago.

Trisha Paytas (138:31)

I was looking up like, who is 19 and my kind of grace is 19. And I was like, damn. When you posted your first video, she was even born.

Moses (138:37)

Yeah.

Tara (138:38)

Because I posted January of 2007. So, like, yeah, that. No, that is wild.

Trisha Paytas (138:42)

Yeah, people.

Tara (138:43)

My shows will be like 15 or something like that.

Trisha Paytas (138:45)

Crazy.

Tara (138:45)

That's crazy. It's crazy. Me too. Like, a whole generation just grew up, like, with YouTube, like, YouTube was just always there for them. Like, it's just like so wild to me. Social media, even though it's been. Been around obviously 19 years, it just seems like new. Like, I was like, there's childhood and like, everyone has a childhood where they don't know the Internet. But now I. I think even when Demi Lovato was here, she was talking about, like, posting on YouTube, like songs when she was like 13 or something. And I was just like, crazy. That's so wild. That people just had it growing up. I don't know. I guess it's, you know, it opens your mind a little more. I suppose if you have social media, you're more. You see the world for what.

Trisha Paytas (139:21)

Yeah, you do see more perspective. I mean, to look at the positive, it is like. Like, the only reason we know some stuff is problematic, that people were doing, like, jokes and stuff that was mainstream is because, like, you didn't have point of view of different cultures or minorities or whatever. Like, you. The point of view was determined by the media you were consuming, and there were no options. Like, this was just what was presented in front of you. And that was like your worldview. It was very limited.

Tara (139:47)

Yeah. Now you have everybody's perspective.

Trisha Paytas (139:49)

Your world. Your worldview is global for better or worse.

Tara (139:52)

But I think that's good. I think that's, for the most part, overall better.

Trisha Paytas (139:55)

But then your FYP does get a little. You see things that are like, you don't want to see sometimes. But that is the downside.

Tara (140:01)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (140:01)

Yeah.

Tara (140:02)

Try to look at the optimism here. We're hanging to in 2026. I really like the sweater. Where is this from?

Trisha Paytas (140:08)

It was. It's called, like, Alfred Eric or something. I don't know. It was like a. A shop that's, like, on Instagram and Tik Tok a lot. I got a lot of ads for it.

Tara (140:17)

No, the Tik Tok shop will get you.

Trisha Paytas (140:18)

Yeah. But it paid off for me. I do all my pants that I was wearing, like, all those, like, funky cat's eye jeans and stuff. It was all the same haul.

Tara (140:26)

It should get sponsored by them.

Trisha Paytas (140:28)

I know. All the same, me pulling an Alabama barker haul would be kind of. That was crazy. That was probably my favorite haul.

Tara (140:35)

That was crazy. I know. I. She's another one I kind of feel for. Like, I like. It's like I get. I, like, get them. And then I'm also kind of like, but we're missing the mark. You know, I put her with the. The Michaela's, the Joelles, and the. Who was the other person I was gonna mentor? Who was the other one that I was like, oh, I feel was a boy.

Trisha Paytas (140:53)

Dallas.

Tara (140:55)

But someone we just talked about today.

Trisha Paytas (140:58)

A boy.

Tara (140:59)

Say, yeah. And I was like, oh, maybe Tara. Tara's will not. Oh, yeah, I thought there was a boy. Anyways, those people I like, I feel for, but I'm also like, what are we doing?

Trisha Paytas (141:07)

Yeah. Her haul was. Last year it was $80,000 was the net worth of her Christmas haul. This year it Went up to a hall worth 200,000.

Moses (141:17)

I just showed you the recession and the value of the money.

Tara (141:20)

What does that mean?

Moses (141:22)

Like, she probably got the same stuff. It just cost 200,000 now.

Tara (141:25)

Oh, she was getting crazy things like Birkins and. Yeah, she had some Asian provocateur. I was like, that's expensive. I used to buy that.

Moses (141:35)

Well, people didn't care about that as much as it was given to her from her dad.

Tara (141:39)

But what was it? I didn't see it. I know people were like, she got lingerie. Was it actual lingerie?

Trisha Paytas (141:43)

It was actual lingerie, yeah.

Tara (141:44)

What does that mean? Like a bra? Underwear.

Trisha Paytas (141:46)

It was, like, sexy. It had some, like, straps and stuff. But she did clarify that it was, like, on her list, like, specifically, and that Courtney was the one that actually.

Tara (141:56)

Did the shopping head. From Courtney.

Trisha Paytas (141:58)

Yeah.

Tara (142:00)

Crazy. That's crazy.

Trisha Paytas (142:02)

But that's kind of. Kind of. I don't. I thought it was a little much, too. Because I imagine, too, that he wasn't like. I don't know, like, my common sense. When I put things specifically on my, like, list, if my mom asked me what I want, like, I have to literally send the link to what the exact item. Otherwise she's not gonna know. So I imagine she did the same thing. So I didn't think it was, like, weird off the jump.

Tara (142:21)

Do you have a list? Do you send a list?

Trisha Paytas (142:23)

No. She'll ask me, and then I, like, I really waited till the last minute because I couldn't really think of anything. But she. She gave me a light for my stream this year. Yeah, but I just. Yes. And it has to be for her. It has to be like an Amazon something that she has an account, too. She has to make an account. It's over. But, yeah, I imagine Alabama did the same.

Tara (142:40)

Send a little agent provocative link.

Trisha Paytas (142:42)

Like, this is actually an Excel sheet. And it was like, oh, interesting. I imagined. And then that's pretty much it. Yeah. She said that she put it. She had items, like, on her wish list, and she said, you got. You guys think that my dad's like, I'm gonna pick up my daughter lingerie. It was on my Christmas list, and he wanted to make it happen for me, so he let Courtney go and buy it. So, I mean, that's like.

Tara (143:04)

That's so different than, like, this is what my dad got me for Christmas. You know what I mean? It is so different. I think. Yeah, that should have been also, I think in general, I think it's like one day, our girls and Moses, like, here's lawn. I don't. I still don't think a dad should be buying, like, that's a gift from your dad. Because even if it's like a list you want, you know, card, maybe gift card. Gift card is great, but, like, I just. And I feel like I'm a pretty forward parent, but I'd be like, I don't know. That's weird. I don't know. My. I think it's weird.

Trisha Paytas (143:33)

But what if. So if me and Darian have a girl and she wants lingerie like this, she's like, I want this specific thing and her only option is, then what?

Tara (143:42)

Oh, that's a tough one. I don't know, because I think. I think of it the other way too. Right? Like, if I. If my son wanted, like, I guess if you wanted condoms, I guess I'd buy him condoms. I don't know. I'm trying to think. I'm trying to think of, like the equivalent, like. I know what you're saying.

Trisha Paytas (143:55)

I don't know. Yeah, I don't know.

Tara (143:57)

It seems, it seems inappropriate, but maybe not. But even me buying, like, I guess she's 20. Me buying a 20. No, if I had my daughter's 20. Yes. Okay. I'd buy a lingerie if 20 and you're buying a lot. I don't know. I think it's weird. Like a dad buy. I don't know. Maybe not maybe. Tell me if I'm wrong. Maybe that's a hot take.

Trisha Paytas (144:12)

I don't know either.

Tara (144:13)

Dad buying a girl a daughter lingerie is weird. And. Yeah. And she's also 20, so I think she could also go. Go ask for, like, maybe a gift.

Trisha Paytas (144:21)

Card like you said. Yeah, I did play and say probably a gift card, but maybe I have.

Tara (144:24)

A hot take on that one. I don't know. That's a good question.

Trisha Paytas (144:26)

Yeah.

Tara (144:27)

With boys too, because, like, yeah, obviously there's like a lot of single moms and stuff. And I know when they go through, like, puberty, I remember, like, my brother not wanting to, like, ask my mom about stuff. So I don't know out of the.

Trisha Paytas (144:36)

Backlash, though she did say, I'm literally never doing. Going to do another Christmas haul, which I think, I think that is the overall yes, because she was posting a lot. She got Lorraine Schwarz diamond earring. She got a pink Hermes bag from Travis and Courtney. She got new boots that from Courtney. And Courtney went to Kylie to ask, like, what she would wear in her King Kylie era. And Kylie helped pick out the boots. She got a Balenciaga bag from Kendall Jenner, Hermes slides from from Chris Jenner. And yeah, the whole, the whole total. Someone obviously went and and added it all up and it was 200 000.

Tara (145:16)

So yeah, I think it's all just bad idea. Those hauls, like, I think they're especially high tech items like that. I think if you're getting like Bose headphones. Okay, whatever. Like, you know, but like.

Trisha Paytas (145:23)

Or like something that's really like niche and thoughtful.

Tara (145:26)

Yeah, niche, thoughtful Coach bag and Michael Kors watch. Okay. But like when you're showing all these things, like it's also. I've always said this, I think it's just like a safety thing. Like people just know what you have. You're just a target. They're gonna want to rob you. Not that that's like it shouldn't be that way. It's just the way it is. Like you just shouldn't wear like fancy jewelry when you go out anymore. Like that's just how it is. I feel like when people show these things, I think it's just like such a weird like signal. Like look at all this stuff I have, you know, like just too much. Yeah.

Moses (145:51)

It's also so. I mean it's scent compared to like if you watch the Kardashian, you watch the cars they drive, the jets they fly, the homes, the accessories, the Balenciaga, all the stuff they have. To her, it doesn't look like she's even showing that much. You know what I mean? Like to her it's like. Yeah, because they are showing all day, every day, flaunting and what they have and how much money they have. So.

Tara (146:14)

Yeah, but yeah, so it just almost.

Moses (146:16)

Like for her what she's showing is peanuts. She's not showing the, you know, the fancy cars because the cars they drive is not like a normal car. It's like the hyper. It's a million dollar Mercedes. It's not a hundred thousand dollar Mercedes. Or the jet. She has one. Kim has one of the most expensive jets out there. Because I just saw one of those show all the jets and the billionaires and she's up there like crazy. More than, you know, Elon Musk and all those big billionaires. Like her jet crazy is insane.

Tara (146:44)

So people are taking so many private jets, like even influencers. Like I see. I know Karen always takes private jets. Not always, but I saw her because I follow this girl in a Paul and she went on like a yacht birthday for Karen and they went private jet. Amanda Cerny, who I love, she's had twins and they're on a private jet. I was like, you want so much. I'm like, what are they? I mean, I don't know. I think in a cerny might have done like crypto Corona, I guess did. I know. Don't they have so much money? It's crazy. But I think about that too when I. Because, you know, I love to play the lottery. And I've been playing it less because I'm like, I don't know if I need that much money. You know what I mean? Like, sometimes you think like, more money, more problems too. Because then I know the whole like, again, it's like a safety thing. The target people think you have all this money. I don't know. Also, maybe not that good to have that much money.

Trisha Paytas (147:23)

Yeah.

Tara (147:23)

Some people just. If you just had that much money where you're just like getting on private jets and just like wasting fuel and I don't know, like, maybe they're just. You don't need that much. Like first class. We love go on a first class. You know what I mean? But private jazz like all the time is wild. And I don't know. I don't know if I want all that much money. Love money, hustle for money, but maybe don't need that much. Sometimes when I buy the lottery, if I see it too high, I'm like, I don't know if I want that much. Maybe 20 million is cute.

Trisha Paytas (147:48)

Yeah. Because then it just becomes excessive. Like, there's no realistic way you're going to spend all that. So it's like, yeah, I don't.

Tara (147:58)

Yes. I'm. Kayla did another. She got a Christmas haul and she did the 40,000 Van Cleef watch. And I'm like, girl, have we learned nothing? I like, we know, like, you know, like, I just. I don't know. I don't know. I get so, like, I get a little upset that they keep doing these.

Trisha Paytas (148:14)

Yeah, that actually is annoying. Yeah.

Tara (148:16)

You're like, girl, like, everyone's telling you, we don't want to see this. We know. And because you know, there's the comments like letter. Spend money. Of course, spend your money however you want. I always say that. But let's also like, like, just again, like this. The climate of the world we're in where people are just like, literally not eating. Like, it's just like wild. And to be like, this is what I. I don't know. Like, I, I do love a. Even like toys. We don't buy our kids that much stuff. But like, you know, we get them toys, but even then I don't want to. Like, I used to like those, like kids, like, oh, what do we got for Christmas? But then you're like, you know, I don't know. You don't make other people feel bad enough toys for Christmas.

Trisha Paytas (148:47)

I don't know.

Tara (148:48)

It's very, very weird. And people do need to stop those Christmas hauls. They need to stop. I think. I think so too. When I get the House of Congress.

Moses (149:01)

I think I'm gonna ban Christmas.

Tara (149:06)

At least Christmas haul. I will be sure of that. Like, what were you saying? Oh, on of if someone like, asks for a refund, they get banned. That's what's gonna happen if there's a haul? Yes, I think so. If it's over a thousand dollars, we're gonna ban because we do not need people like, feeling bad over this stuff. It's beautiful stuff, but the climate of the world also. Don't make yourself a target. Don't you don't. Like, I just saw someone else buy a pink car. So many people are buying pink cars. I was like, we love a pink car. And it's like, again, the world we live in. And it's so sad. And I hate to say this, it's like you almost like, can't have a pink car anymore because it just signals, girl. It signals by myself. It can signal. Like, they think you have money. Like, it should just. I'm telling you though, the one time I never talk about the one time I got like, robbed is when I bought my Lamborghini, you know, And I like, showed on Instagram. I was like, in a different place completely. But they saw that I had a Lamborghini, so they thought I had, like, a lot of money. I didn't. And yeah, just like, I don't know. Be. Be careful. You know me, I was in a pink car. I'm always like, I need to paint a car pink. But it's literally the most dangerous thing you can. Like, I got every time I had, you know, you know, the attention we get in that thing. Like, it's so. And every time I even think about wanting, like, a car, I just gotta remember that, like, it's so scary. And it's not even like people like fans, it's always like the weirdos because they'll see like, a pink car, they'll see the girl getting in it, whatever. And it's just. It's not smart. So like, those Christmas hauls, take care from me. Better to not show then you also don't Attract like evil eyes. And you. Something the other day about evil eye is like, if you don't show every. If you don't show your good fortune, then evil. You can't attract an evil eye.

Trisha Paytas (150:35)

Oh, that's a good point. Yeah.

Tara (150:36)

It's like just. You just keep it, it. Keep it to yourself.

Trisha Paytas (150:40)

Yeah.

Tara (150:40)

Enjoy that wealth, but maybe to yourself during this time.

Moses (150:43)

Join. Join. We starting a new course. $6,000 to teach you how to do something.

Tara (150:48)

Of course.

Moses (150:48)

How to not do all.

Tara (150:50)

Even when I was. When we were down on our luck with money, when I was in that million dollars of debt, I still was like, no, I could never. I couldn't. Like, I don't know. And you, like, think about stuff like that. You think about that, right? You're like, well, if you have a thousand followers and they each pay 100 bucks, like, you know, okay, yeah, but I don't know. It just. Just, I don't know, spend your money on what you want, I guess. I don't know. Maybe not that, though. That's. That's wild. I should be a financial advisor. I'm getting very good at it. I am. When I watch that guy with the podcast, I'm like, I could do this. He's literally being like, you know, her.

Moses (151:24)

Main advice would be don't buy that purse.

Tara (151:27)

No. You remember when we were like a million dollars in debt and we got advice from someone and then they're like, maybe just like, don't go out to eat as much. I'm like, I don't think that's the problem. I don't think that is why we're a million dollars in debt. But thank you for the advice. And that's the thing. You pay people for advice and they give that advice, like, maybe don't go to Starbucks. Like, that's not how I got here. That is not how I got here.

Trisha Paytas (151:47)

Oh, my God.

Tara (151:48)

But, well. Oh, wow, you guys. Happy 2026. We didn't say that. Happy New Year. I am optimistic about 2026. I'm very optimistic. I'm optimistic it's gonna be such a. All of us, all of us in this room and all of you watching. I feel like it's going to be a great year. And keep your held high time. Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. You want to talk about your.

Moses (152:15)

The only things that. No. The only thing we'll see at Logan's Christmas party.

Tara (152:20)

Okay. Go to patreon.com. just. Okay, bye. It.