Dec 02, 2025

Summary

Podcast Summary: Just Trish — December 2, 2025

Host: Trisha Paytas
Co-host: Oscar Gracey
Special appearances: Moses (Trisha’s husband)
Episode Theme:
This episode marks Oscar Gracey's return to the “Just Trish” podcast after a five-week hiatus. The duo dives into the latest in internet and celebrity drama, Broadway, viral trends, body image discourse, media representation, influencer beauty brands, and more. The conversation is fast-paced, hilarious, filter-free, and full of insider pop culture commentary—classic “Just Trish” vibes.

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Main Topics & Key Discussions

1. Oscar’s Return & Catching Up (02:02–07:25)

• Oscar is back after touring, and both hosts reflect on missing each other during the busiest stretch of their lives.
• They riff on the now-iconic "Just Trish" set, DIY fan recreations, and their viral potential.
• Trisha floats the idea of launching official merch using her legendary thumbnails and social media moments.

Quote:
“I really should just design my own [merch] at this point.” – Trisha (02:26)

2. The Pull of Content & Being ‘In the Mix’ (06:29–07:25)

• Trisha discusses her “peace era,” yet admits she can’t resist hot topics for long.
• Oscar teases that Trisha always has the craziest pop culture stories and is crucial for messy commentary.

Quote:
“I have so many Hot Topics and then it's like, I'm living the Broadway life. Like, I'm above the—no.” – Trisha (06:51)

3. Broadway, Wicked & Fandom (07:31–19:04; 39:39–41:41)

• Both discuss attending “Wicked for Good,” dissecting its critical reception, fan expectations, and the movie vs stage production.
• Trisha highlights the misogyny underlying some criticisms (“the demo was 70% women”) and the mainstream backlash against popular things.
• Oscar shares red carpet stories, including nervousness and praise for Ethan Slater (“he ate as the Tin Man”).

Quotes:
“There’s the misogyny of it all, and the mainstream popularity of it all ... those two things kind of working against it.” – Trisha (14:56)
“Even Moses, who was standing on the balcony, thought I was interviewing Jonathan Bailey.” – Oscar (17:02)

4. Body Image, Celebrity Scrutiny & Boundaries (26:42–34:12)

• Trisha and Oscar analyze the toxic discourse on Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo’s appearances, especially regarding weight and social media’s obsession with women’s bodies.
• They denounce body shaming and manipulation of interviews for clickbait, defending the artists’ right to set boundaries.

Quotes:
“There’s a comfortability that people have commenting on that that I think is really dangerous...for all parties involved.” – Oscar (28:47)
“She has set the boundary. Like, why can you not respect her boundary?” – Trisha (27:28)

5. Influencer Drama & Viral Trends (63:00, 73:12–79:57)

• Analysis of “Escape the Night” on Tubi: influencer casting, comparisons to “The Traitors,” and production tea about payments (or lack thereof).
• Millie Bobby Brown x Tana Mongeau TikTok moment, JoJo Siwa’s surprise role, and fandom reactions.
• Quick roundup: McKenna Grace’s ‘it girl’ energy, Cat’s Eye’s TikTok fame, dancing trends like “Eat Zucchini” (55:00).

Quote:
“I think you should pay. … I mean, you should, right? I don’t know.” – Oscar (68:51)

6. Beauty Industry: Influencer Brands & Authenticity (74:59–79:57)

• The Michaela POV Beauty lip gloss backlash: marketing gone wrong, TikTok receipts, and the impossibility of universal claims about makeup.
• Trisha and Oscar agree influencer beauty brands face harsher scrutiny and discuss the fine line between authenticity and marketing.
• Trisha on her own GLP-1 journey ("Ozempic face" discourse), pushing for honesty about weight loss aids in social media culture.

Quotes:
“It always looks bad if you delete and someone always kept it. … It’s always out there.” – Oscar (77:07)
“I think people should be honest about it. Especially celebrities.” – Trisha (81:26)

7. Social Mediasphere: Cancel Culture, Fandom Backlash, and Virality (26:42–34:12, 71:11–73:08)

• Discussion of how internet culture turns on up-and-coming women (like Ariana, Cynthia, Rachel Sennott), and classic cycles of moralizing dislike.
• The difference in how men and women are judged on appearance.
• How fans will dig for reasons to dislike new “it girls” and the futility of chasing public approval.

Quote:
“I'm on to. I've been around the block too many times. Yeah, I've seen it.” – Trisha (26:45)

8. The Kardashians, Reality Stars, and Family Drama (98:14–101:59)

• Recap of current season: highs (Khloe, Kim), lows (Kourtney).
• Chat about family dynamics, loyalty vs. accountability, and critique of platforms for transphobic or hateful celebrities (ref: Logan Paul).
• The tricky line between supporting friends and drawing boundaries in the public eye.

9. Miscellaneous Hot Topics:

Dancing with the Stars:

• Robert Irwin's predictable win; male celebs’ advantage in ballroom dance; the judges’ double standard.
• Tiktok/Reddit mini-scandal: Whitney’s leaked IG post about Zac Efron allegedly being used for votes.

JoJo Siwa:

• Hospitalized hours before a major performance, but "show-girled" through the pain.
• Trisha lauds her resilience: “That’s the life of a showgirl.”

Other snacks:

• Cat’s Eye and the “Eat Zucchini” trend.
• Stranger Things (Vecna’s new “snatched” waist) and how body conversations even reach monsters.

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Notable Quotes

• On hot topics & virality:
  “My hot topics are like about a little penguin or something, you know what I mean? … I can do hot topics without having to be like messy.” – Trisha (09:26)

• On Broadway acting:
  “At first you feel, like, silly, but then by the end of it, I was like, these are my people. This is what I love doing …” – Oscar (12:45)

• On the cycles of body discourse:
  “You’re kind of damned if you do, damned if you don’t … just do whatever you want, it’s your body.” – Oscar (82:35)

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Memorable Moments & Inside Jokes

• Trisha and Oscar riff about needing their own “Trisha thumbnail” merch store (02:10).
• Debate over the most iconic “Just Trish” set DIYs and fan attention to detail.
• The duo’s confusion over influencer pay for appearing in “Escape the Night.”
• Running gag about seeing (or not seeing) viral shows—“I feel like I watched it, but I've seen all the clips”—and missing key pop culture moments (36:24, 73:43, 97:44).
• Multiple references to how even monsters (Vecna) get “body transformation” commentary online.
• Moses chiming in about food (stuffed zucchini, fried zucchini) and jet-lagged parenting.

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Oscar's return, Merch talk: 02:02–03:00
• “Peace era” vs. messy hot topics: 06:29–07:08
• Wicked for Good reactions/sexism in fandom: 14:56–16:11
• Red Carpet & Ethan Slater praise: 17:02–18:11
• Deep dive: body shaming discourse: 26:42–34:12
• Millie Bobby Brown & Tana Mongeau TikTok: 70:44–71:11
• Michaela makeup line controversy: 74:59–77:14
• Influencer beauty brands authenticity chat: 78:00–79:57
• Dancing with the Stars drama: 85:46–91:55
• JoJo Siwa’s show-must-go-on moment: 93:03–94:28
• Family & loyalty boundaries: 101:28–102:13
• Sign-off and Oscar’s surprise performance tease: 103:41–103:47

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Overall Tone & Style

Authentically messy, pop culture savvy, full of self-aware humor, and a supportive yet unfiltered friendship between Trisha and Oscar. Listeners are treated like part of their group chat, privy to both the chaos and real talk behind viral internet moments and the realities of being public figures on social media.

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For listeners and fans, this is an episode packed with sharp takes, memes in the making, and enough juicy tangents to keep the TL fed until next week.

Transcript

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Moses]

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[Trisha Paytas]

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[Oscar Gracie]

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[Trisha Paytas]

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[Oscar Gracie]

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[Trisha Paytas]

I won the wizard's wish contest. Cat's Eye was in New York this day. Like it was your last show. They came in and I kept DMing them. I was like, go see Beetlejuice.

[Moses]

They're like work before me.

[Trisha Paytas]

I sent so many hot topics and then it was like just, I'm living the Broadway wave. Like I'm above the.

[Oscar Gracie]

I was like, no, no, I need to get in the mix. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yay.

[Oscar Gracie]

Hello and welcome back to the Just Trish podcast. Live from Just Trish Studios with our Just Trish co host, Oscar Gracie is back.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I'm finally back. Worst experience of my life. I know.

[Oscar Gracie]

This is great though.

[Trisha Paytas]

Thank you. Yes. I am really that hot. I was thinking I ordered this from like an Etsy shop, but I'm like, I have so many iconic Trisha thumbnails. I really should make my own line and like pay you a licensing fee. I think just have it.

[Oscar Gracie]

That's how special and important you are. Just have it. You should. That'd be everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

There's so many. I have just in my camera roll and I'm like, I really should just design my own at this point.

[Oscar Gracie]

Every time I see like a reacting video to my videos, like I don't even know what video that is. I'll always see like a thumbnail of mine in there and I'm like, what Video. Is that this one too? I'm like, what is this video?

[Trisha Paytas]

This one has been around. I've seen this one quite a bit on Twitter and stuff. It is pretty iconic. But there's even some tweets that come up of yours. And I'm like, these are really iconic and should be like, on blankets, on pillows, on shirts.

[Oscar Gracie]

Get that zazzle up the red bubble. You should. Everyone else's. There's like thousands of them on TikTok. I bought one and was like, why are you buying? I'm like, no, because I. Like, who would make those? You?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, because I. I have been having Trish Drols. I had them really quick into my little hiatus. I think like after a week I was like, wait, but I have so much to say, like, where? And then I just started, like, reacting to all your videos. I did acting lessons with you. I don't even know if you know. And I never tell you when I wrote it.

[Moses]

I saw that.

[Oscar Gracie]

No, I didn't see any of it.

[Moses]

Like, whenever you do one sided thing, like on your ASMR channel. So he's acting the second side?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. You know, little improv. Little. Yes.

[Oscar Gracie]

And wait, were you doing ASMR too, or just acting?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I was just acting. But I. I would create a character. I forget what the technique is, but, like, I would have a little note card and I would write out who my character is and. And then, you know, take the role of that character and apply to whatever you were saying.

[Oscar Gracie]

No way.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, so I did. You were Joe Goldberg and you put me in a glass box. You were. We were in Euphoria High and you were doing my makeup. You were in Stranger Things.

[Oscar Gracie]

Wait, really? Oh, yeah. Nicole told me I did that. Who was I?

[Trisha Paytas]

You were Eddie Rip, But. Oh, yeah, you were Eddie Munson. And then I realized about 45 seconds into the ASMR that you had never seen that show. Really? Because the things you were saying, I was like, this isn't in Stranger Things.

[Oscar Gracie]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I did struggle with that.

[Oscar Gracie]

We saw one episode. I think we saw the first episode.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. The plot, the references and stuff. I didn't even know that's the one that tripped me up. Everything else I could kind of, you know, I could. Yes. And. And continue on.

[Oscar Gracie]

Did you. Did you continue on with it?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Some I got really into as well, actually, the euphoria and the Joe Goldberg one. I really. I think some of my strongest acting work.

[Oscar Gracie]

And you did original characters. You weren't playing son.

[Trisha Paytas]

Original characters. Accents. Yeah, I was Southern and. Which One, weirdly, the Joe Goldberg one. I was a southern girl who worked at a Barnes and Noble who Joe Goldberg kidnapped.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, that's a good one.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And then I ended up continuing that character in the Euphoria one. Just because I loved her so much, I became really attached.

[Oscar Gracie]

You're cross pollinating like Sam Levinson with the idol in Euphoria. You're like, me too, actually.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. So you know, I'm reheating your acting nachos and devouring. I love it.

[Oscar Gracie]

No, I'm glad I missed it too. I hadn't seen much. I didn't know. You should have told me. I didn't see much of you either. I saw the one podcast where someone had the same walls.

[Trisha Paytas]

What is this? Outside with Andrew tmi.

[Oscar Gracie]

He.

[Trisha Paytas]

He went all out. Cuz he's like a super. He's seen every episode. Like, he's a, like such a big fan. And he's like an influencer too, so it's so funny.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, I've seen him before.

[Trisha Paytas]

He literally like went to, I think homegoods or something. He got everything and then he showed it to me. I was like, how did you do that? Because it actually looked real.

[Oscar Gracie]

Do the back. Like, that's what I wanted to know.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was a blanket that he like, taped to his wall.

[Oscar Gracie]

And then the checker print was a blanket.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Yes.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

And he taped it to his wall to make it look like the Just Trish set. But then when he took it down, it like ripped off his drywall. But I'm like, you should honestly just leave it up at this point. I was like, trish should come over here because he's in New York. So I was like, he should. Trish should come over here and just film.

[Oscar Gracie]

Actually though, actually, how do we get that set for a moment? Cause that's what I was thinking. I was like, well, we should have him do our set next time.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh my God, please.

[Trisha Paytas]

It looked real.

[Oscar Gracie]

It looked so real. The lighting was on point. I will say the squares could have been bigger and it could have been bigger. If you went to just.com and got a blanket there, it would have been just perfect. But it did look so good. It looks so real. The thumbnail. Everything's so real.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. He ate that up. He even had like the Moses core, like pink gnomes and stuff. I was like, wow, you really showed up.

[Oscar Gracie]

And shout out. That was a good one. That was where I got my fix. If you wanted to know how Coleen reacted to Colleen, you can go on there, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I mean, I missed it. There was again, I had like, a week of peace where I was like, you know, I'm just gonna do housekeeping things. I'm going to, like, you know, get things together. I'm going to reply to emails or buy, like, three emails. I'm going to, you know, get new graphics. I'm going to do this. And, girl, after a week, I was like, let me pipe up. I have some things to say. Like, let me get in the mix. Do you.

[Oscar Gracie]

Do you feel that? Like, I did.

[Trisha Paytas]

I honestly didn't think I would, but I did. Because, you know, the cancel girls are like, we just. We can't do this anymore. Like, I just want Pete. I'm like, yeah, well, your peak, your week of like, I sent so many Hot Topics. And then it was like, just, I'm living the Broadway life. Like, I'm above the. No.

[Oscar Gracie]

I was like, no, no, I need to get in the mix. Yes. Because the Hot Topics you sent me were so diabolical and those are your people. And I was like, honestly, no, no, I'm not talking about this hot issue without Oscar. I would love to hear your takes on there. You would have the floor because those are your people.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm dead.

[Oscar Gracie]

That's not a bad race to your people.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Oscar Gracie]

Okay, Sorry. Okay. There's the mucky. I'm proud to share. I forgot to say, I'm at Trishmas. I'm at Trishmas today. So this episode's a little short and I'm a little. Actually, I should not be talking. I should be on vocal rest right now. I've been shouting today and I can't hear myself. But I'm at Long beach tonight, which means I won't be anymore. But we will be at Thousand Oaks on Friday, same day as Cat's Eye. Huh. Is that the Cat's Eye show you're going to? I think it is, yeah. Makeup artist loves Cat's Eye. Cat's Eye is also going to be in San Francisco the same day we are. So Cat's Eye. I can come to your show after my show? I would love to. They're going to be there at like 8:00 o' clock and my show's at like, 7:30.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my gosh. So you could be like, their special guest.

[Oscar Gracie]

I would love if they're still going. They probably are.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, mark save. It's December 12th and 13th in LA for Cat's Eye, so. Yes.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, we're traveling. That's why. Okay. My makeup artist, like, we're traveling. Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

So, yeah, you'll be in Washington when Cat's Eye isn't on.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, no, I'll be. Yeah, I'll be in. I'll be with Cat's Eye, not with Cat's Eye. We'll be in the same city. Well, yes, yes. In San Francisco and then actually in Philadelphia. I'll be in the same city as Frankie Grande the same day he's performing. So exciting. Yes. Me and Frankie kept missing each other. He's supposed to come on the podcast in New York, and partially it was my fault. My scheduling kept getting off, but. But we're both doing shows in Philadelphia, too. So anyways, we're doing Long beach tonight. It's been great. We've had a week of rehearsals, and I was so sick this past week, but I finally woke up this morning, was able to breathe, so that's. That's a good thing. It just sounds like I'm a little hoarse. Hopefully, I'll be able to sing tonight. Anyways, I'm supposed to be on vocal rest, and here I'm doing a podcast. My tour manager's like, can you come at 10? I was like, no. He's like, why? I was like, I'm doing a podcast. He's like, you can't even talk. I could have talked, like, two days ago. I was like, I could not speak. And I was like, yeah, well, I have to do this podcast because it's not ending. This is very important to me. That was the other thing. I think a lot of people were misconstruing my peace era with wanting to end the podcast. It's not that I want to end the podcast. Just, you know, leave, like, the messy bits to you, which you love. Oscar's like, I want to talk about it. And that's what we're here for. Oscar has the intelligence. He has the youth. The youth, you know? Yeah, you're my. I defer to you. I was like, you know what? Great. And I can just be here and back you up and be like, yes. And talk about the cute things. My hot topics were cute. My hot topics are, like, about a little penguin or something. You know what I mean? So not to say I don't love. I also look at things now like, okay, I can do hot topics without having to be, like, messy. I can just be like, here's a lesson I would teach this person. You know what I mean? Like the Brianna chicken fry of it with the Walmart. I was like, you know what? You know what I would tell her if that was me. This is what I would say. So I think that's why I do it. I love this podcast. I love it so much. It's the reason I can literally do everything that I do. So it's never ending. I love it. Oscar's not going anywhere. Were you getting messages like, people were scared?

[Trisha Paytas]

No. Well, I clickbaited it because. Oh, did you see this? That was the first video, my first live stream. I was like, I'm leaving, just Trish. But. Oh, so you got me. Yes. I was my own rumor mill.

[Oscar Gracie]

I saw so many people, like, Oscar can't leave. Like, why is he. I was like, oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, although I did my first, like, 45 seconds was like, I am leaving, just Trish, pregnant pause for three weeks. It was really dramatic.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, my God. So it came for me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

Too. And I was like, yeah, I just make sure that, like, you know, like. Like, why would I. Why? What do you mean? I was like, yeah, of course. Like, I am the source of my.

[Trisha Paytas]

Own rumors, I fear.

[Oscar Gracie]

I love that. I honestly love that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Obviously, I was also thinking too, like, for the audio listeners, I almost want to just start lying and be like, today I'm looking gorgeous. £30, slimmer, have some muscle going on, wearing an extra small Trisha T shirt, looking chiseled. Jawline is like, you know, I really should just start.

[Oscar Gracie]

Your jawline is. I was gonna say that when I did my TikTok of you, you actually looked. You're, like, glowing for real.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, love that. But you look great.

[Oscar Gracie]

Did you see our flowers behind you?

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. Wait, how'd you get those? How did you get those?

[Oscar Gracie]

Well, thank God you tagged me. I saw them shout out casual flowers. Well, to do an insert of them. Yeah, she made fresh roses for today. She brought them up this morning. Oh.

[Trisha Paytas]

I didn't even know she was local. I saw. I got tagged in. It was like, I wasn't expecting to see us.

[Oscar Gracie]

We look just like them, though. It's so crazy. Shout. I think her name is Wheezy and Weezy Sims, maybe is her name definitely casual flowers, but I think it's Wheezy on or Wizzo Butter. Wheezy Butter. She has, like, green hair. She looks cool. I didn't get to see her this morning when she came to Long beach tonight, so I'm gonna see her tonight.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I'm so gab.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. It's so cute, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

It looks like we're really in there. That's insane.

[Oscar Gracie]

Our faces look just like it. Like, it looks like they're expressions.

[Trisha Paytas]

We fit in really well in the world of Wicked. And when I saw Wicked for Good, too, I was thinking that, weirdly, the whole time seeing, like, all the extras who were, like, like, really giving their all in the numbers, I was like, I could eat that up as, like, a little munchkin or something.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, would you be a munchkin?

[Trisha Paytas]

I would have been in the Red City or the munchkin 100% if they were trying to pull me out of that train. And, like, from Munchkin Land, they were like, no, you can't. You're a munchkin. You can't go on the train. I would have given the performance of a lifetime. 100.

[Oscar Gracie]

Really? Yeah. I guess I could have, too. I don't know how I do as a background actor, because I don't give my all. I'm the opposite. I'm very much. And I should. I should. This is why I'm in my acting era, and I need to get better at it. But I'm very. Thank God for Beetlejuice to help me with my acting. I'm someone who would always feel silly, Right. If I'm, like, acting in the background, I'd be like, this is so silly. Like, this is not real. Like, whatever. But that's what acting is, so I need to give more. So when I did Beetlejuice my first night, I very much was just, like, playing a cute character. But by the end of it, everyone's acting in the scene with you. So when something's going on, they're like, did you see that? And at first you feel, like, silly, but then by the end of it, I was like, these are my people. This is what I love doing by myself. And now I get to play with that.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're in the world.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. So maybe I would be a background actor now. I would be a good one. I think I was always very bad. And they'd always, like, push me to the side because I would just giggle. I would look at the actors. I wouldn't, like, give anything.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're looking directly into the camera all the time.

[Oscar Gracie]

They literally always moved me because when I would do like I did, I think. Which set was it? I think it was Two and a Half Men that. They literally kicked me off of it because I kept looking into the first. They put me, like, in the center, right? Like, if Charlie Sheen and John Cry were having a scene, like, I'm in the center, and then they're like, mover, mover. And I kept, like, just being annoying. I just kept being Like. Like rolling my eyes kind of thing. And, like, get her off. Like, I feel like. Like, I never. It never aired out. Well, maybe it aired, but I wasn't in it because I think they were just like. Yeah. I think that was the only one I was fired from. I'm trying to think. There was another one with Courtney Cox called Dirt. Do you remember that one? Yeah. That one, too, I got kicked off of because I was using the bathroom too much. They're like, she pees too much. I was like, okay. I'm literally on the scene for like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, it seems a little problematic. That's what I think too.

[Oscar Gracie]

Like, how do you not know? I have an issue or something? I was fine. I mean, I just peed a lot, I guess. And also, they did tell me I looked too chunky. I was supposed to be one of. I was like a Hugh Hefner girlfriend type. I don't know. I was very stupid. It was like a red carpet scene and they're like, she's too chunky. I was like, okay, so P and chunky. I don't know. How are you? Oh, my God. Wait. This is so weird.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. Literally the longest we've ever been apart. Yes.

[Oscar Gracie]

Five weeks, Six weeks.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. That's diabolical.

[Oscar Gracie]

That's crazy. Because we didn't see each other, like, October.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Because we were pre filming. Yeah. So it's been so long.

[Oscar Gracie]

Over a month.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Absolutely crazy.

[Oscar Gracie]

Crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do I look the same to you?

[Oscar Gracie]

You actually do look so different. No, I tell you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What did you. What's different? Really? You're like, I just relaxed. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, you look great. And then other than that, just been hanging out.

[Oscar Gracie]

I love that. And you saw Wicked for good? You liked it?

[Trisha Paytas]

Loved Wicked for good.

[Oscar Gracie]

I love the review.

[Trisha Paytas]

Are being weird about Wicked in general. The press tour, the movie itself. I'm like, this is too much.

[Oscar Gracie]

Why do you think they're just like, we don't want this to be too big anymore. Like, we need to, like, slam it down.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think it's so many layers to it. The movie itself, I think in general, anything that's too popular, people want to, like, not like the other girls themselves and be like, oh, like, it's not that good. Blah, blah, blah. And also with Wicked, the demographic, and this is like, statistically is the demo was 70 women. So I'm like, you have the misogyny of it all, and you have the mainstream popularity of it all. So those two things kind of working against it for the movie itself, I think Because I really. I'm not like, a theater girl, obviously, so I kind of went in a more of a blank slate, but I really enjoyed it. I thought the music was good. The performances were amazing. It to me. I also have, like, the dumb boy brain. Like, it kind of felt like a superhero movie to me with, like, all that. It was like, action sequence, action sequence. And I love you. I really liked it.

[Oscar Gracie]

It was getting way more action than even, like, the Act 2 of the stage production. Like, actual stage versions. Like, just, like, in general, it's just, like, slower. All the hits are in act one, of course, but, like, act two, the songs are, in my opinion, better. I like the ballads. Like, I love, like, no Good Deed. Like, that was so good.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, I love that.

[Oscar Gracie]

So Jonathan Bailey and as Long as yous're Mine. So good. Even Jimmy. Jimmy Clockett with me. Okay. He literally texted me. He's like, I get the Ethan Slater now. I get it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Can I tell you, I, too, have been. I don't know what. Actually, I do know exactly what it was. This one clip of Ethan Slater as SpongeBob at the Macy's Thanksgiving Parade has been all over Twitter. And there is something about the way that man is moving his hips that I'm like, yes. Yeah. And I'm like, but. And also, maybe it's that ice by SpongeBob SquarePants. SpongeBob, the guy pants. Okay. Song. So, like, the two things are really.

[Moses]

I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Ice Spice made a song for the new SpongeBob movie called SpongeBob Big Eye Pants. Okay. And it's the whole trend. So spongebob has been in the top of my mind. And then seeing Ethan Slater as spongebob moving his hips and, like, gyrating, I was like. And he also just looks good. Like, he looks good. Yeah. Like, his body is, like, you know, muscular and stuff. I'm like. But maybe Trisha was right about this.

[Oscar Gracie]

I've been saying, even Moses, who was standing on top of the balcony while I was doing my interviews, he thought I was interviewing Jonathan Bailey. When I was talking to Ethan Slater, he literally was like, oh, she got it. She got Jonathan Bailey. And I'm like, no, it was Ethan Slater. But kind of the same.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Honestly, he looks really good. So you were right. You were on the right side of her story with that one.

[Oscar Gracie]

Thank you. And he ate as the Tin Man.

[Trisha Paytas]

He was so good. He was really good. Like, that was a crazy performance.

[Oscar Gracie]

That's like, my favorite song. Transformation. All of it. He also gave me the longest Interview on the red carpet.

[Trisha Paytas]

He talked to me for, like, 20 minutes. I was like, damn. He's really. And then he's like, broadway to Broadway. Like, congratulations.

[Oscar Gracie]

I missed that completely nuts.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was like, so you think he knew?

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, wait, did he say congratulations? No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. At the end, you were like. You said, congratulations. You were like, yeah. You were like, congratulations to you. Everything you're doing is amazing. He's like, no. And like, you. Broadway to Broadway. Like, you're doing amazing.

[Oscar Gracie]

We love you. This is my first time. I was so nervous, but I love you. Thank you for talking.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're killing me.

[Oscar Gracie]

Okay. Thank you. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, Broadway to Broadway, you know?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes. Congratulations. No, he didn't. You're doing amazing.

[Trisha Paytas]

To me. Yes. Because you're like, sorry, this is my first one. I've never done this before. And he was like, no. Like, broadway to Broadway. You're doing amazing. Yeah. It's like, he's on Broadway. You're on Broadway. Like, it was theater.

[Oscar Gracie]

We were both. SpongeBob was at the Palace Theater, and Beetlejuice was like, oh, my God, I missed it. Honestly, I disassociated through most of those, but he did get me such a long time that even the producer that was with me was like, wrap it up, Wrap it up. And I just kept going. I was like. I think after. Like, yeah. There was one question I think I nailed really good. He's like, okay, wrap it up now. But I just kept going. I was like, so tell me about. I was talking about his new Broadway play, Marcel. Marcel. Like, I was like, let me just know all of this. And. Yeah, okay. Well, I've been saying Ethan Slater, and he looks amazing. They all look amazing. They all good. It was so much. It was. Wicked is, like, the best movie. Go see it. Not sponsored, but love Wicked. I almost didn't make it. We were supposed to come back to LA during that time. So, like, last minute, I was like, can I come back? And they were like, originally, like, no, we gave the ticket away. And then I, like, found a way in. And I was so excited to get to be there, but it was. It was good. I think I'm gonna be a journalist now.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that era for you. I love seeing what the. I did want you with a bigger mic, but that was my. That was my only.

[Oscar Gracie]

No, yeah, yeah. It was kind of weird. I'm like, I get it, though, because they had someone else, I think, because I said no. And then, like, last minute, I was like, can I come back? And so maybe they were like, okay, yeah, I was squeezed in there. Nobody was happy that I was squeezed in there. So my producer's like, just go in the middle of the carpet. And I was like, okay. So I'm just like standing out there, like, talking to people, which, whatever. Everyone was pretty nice for the most part. I'm sure people were like, no, I was number three in the lineup.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is so crazy because Bailey was.

[Oscar Gracie]

Like going 1, 2 and the show was about to start at like 7:30.

[Moses]

And I was, yeah, we're just late.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

And he kind of was like, looking. But I wasn't ballsy not to be like, come here. Like you. But he was like. You could tell he was pausing. And I was like, but anyways, it was great. It was wonderful. Thank you so much to Morgan and Morgan for sponsoring today's episode of Just Trish. Okay, besties. It's winter, which means the sun is clocking out early and people are acting weird in these dark streets. Like we're all just trying to get a holiday frappuccino. And boom. You slip on a rut floor or someone rear ends you because they're scrolling TikTok while driving. Don't do that. And listen, if something bad does happen, don't you dare think you have to deal with the behemoth insurance companies alone. Morgan and Morgan is literally built for that. They can connect with you 247 because injuries don't wait for business hours. Stay cute, stay aware, and if life gets messy, get the lawyers who will have your back. So if you get hurt at no fault of your own, you can check them out at for the people.com trish or just dial pound law. That's pound L A W. For over 35 years, Morgan and Morgan has been fighting for the people. With over $25 billion recovered and more than 1,000 lawyers nationwide, hiring Morgan and Morgan is like hiring your own army. And guess what? Their fee is free unless they win. If you're injured by someone else's negligence, you deserve to be compensated. For more information, you can check out Morgan and Morgan by going to for the people.com Trish that's f o r the people.com Trish f o r the people.com t r I s h or click the link in the description below. This is a paid advertisement. Thank you so much to Morgan and Morgan for sponsoring today's episode. All right. I don't know what else to even go. Wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know.

[Oscar Gracie]

Well.

[Trisha Paytas]

And also too, with the interviews, like, I didn't even know because I didn't Even tell you that they were going to ask you to do the interviews. Yeah, I don't know what we can talk about. Oh, yeah, I think it's fine. I guess we'll see. But because it's my, the, my old place of work. But yeah, I'm still friends with all those people. And then my friend Stephanie, it was like we on our lunch breaks would like, watch YouTube. Like, we would watch your videos. It's like we would lock ourselves in her editing bay and like, watch YouTube on our lunch break. So she and we always come up with cock and any ideas that are just like so crazy. Like, we were the ones that come up with the idea of interviewing you while mukbanging the cold in and out, like back in the day.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So we would just come up with schemes to hang out with people who we want to, like, meet, you know, so it'd be like, let's just interview whoever we like right now. And so she texted me a couple like a month or two months ago and was like, do you think Trisha would do wicked interviews? Like, can you, can you give me her. Her emails? Like, I was like, yeah, you should ask her. And then I was like, here's her email. Here's your agent's email. And she was like, like, I really want to do. I was like, yeah, you should do it. But we just, we come up with all the time. So I didn't even like, think anything of it because we just come up with crazy ideas that never come around. And then when you texted me, I was like, oh, are you going for just Trish?

[Oscar Gracie]

I was like, I'm going there. And I was like, no, you gave him my information. Oh, yeah, I did. So I was like, thank you, you made this happen. I was so excited. And she was like on the call, there was like a call with so many people and it was like, so overwhelming. I was like, oh, my gosh. They like, don't play around about these things. You know, there's like pre meetings and everything. And yeah, I was so gang when I got the email. And then like, they were so excited and then I couldn't go. And I was like, oh, I had. I have like a really big thing here in la. I'm like, I have to do this thing that's like so big. And then that got like rained out because there was like a rainstorm here in la. And then I was like, I can do it again. And like, thank God. They were like, yes, you can come. But yeah, I did have a little microphone and, like, the person, too, with me was filming on an iPhone. So I was just like, it was kind of random.

[Moses]

You were doing the social media. She was doing the social media part of it.

[Oscar Gracie]

I loved it. I think I could do better next time. I was very nervous, but I think I could do. I think I could do better. But, yeah, I felt I was channeling you. I was like, wow. If I. Honestly, I feel like we would do so good there. Like, you, you know, you're so good with it. I had a really good producer. He was really great. But it was giving me, like, Oscar vibes, too, where I was like, oh. Because he kind of knew, you know, he's like, okay, here comes this person and this and this.

[Trisha Paytas]

And they are stressful, though, because, I mean, especially Wicked. It's so big. Like, it's such an event premiere, and it's the only one in America that was only American premiere. So the pressure was like, that's a big one to just go into.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, and everyone on the lines, Everyone in the lines, all the outlets and stuff like that. They're like, I mean, not. I don't want to be. Maybe I shouldn't. Whatever, because I'm going back. But they were all just like, what? They were just, like, so mad that Cynthia and Ariana weren't doing interviews. Like, what a bust this is. And, like, what are you talking about? We get to have all these. Like, I was so excited. Yes, of course. It's, like, sad, but to me, I was like. I was so excited to see everyone else. And then Jonathan Bailey came and he stopped, and then the people behind me were just like, oh, what? Why did we even wait out here? Like, people were just so mad.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's how it is. Everyone's like, really? There's, like, a jaded. It's just because if you do it for so long, like, you. And you have to, like, it's such, like, long hours, and if you're doing it multiple premieres in one night, then it. You know, you get jaded.

[Oscar Gracie]

Pretty. They were actually very lovely to me because at the end of it, it was like. It was like I won a contest. Like, did you have fun? I'm like, I'm gonna be back. Okay, don't take me like that.

[Trisha Paytas]

I won the Wizard's Wish contest.

[Oscar Gracie]

That's what it was giving. Because I literally am, like, the only one, too. And I get it. Like, you want to be professional. You're not the star of the movie, you know? But, like, I. I had that outfit made thinking we were just attending. And then when the that interview opportunity came up, I was just like, okay, so I already had the dress made but everyone else is like, yeah, like little coats and stuff and like black coats. And so it did look like I was, you know, just a super fan. Happy to be there. But it was fun. It was good. It was, it was a good time. I liked it and I really took in every minute I could with it. But yeah, I would love to go with jesterish.

[Trisha Paytas]

You really should at this point.

[Oscar Gracie]

I like how you do it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think you just apply and a lot of the times you can get.

[Oscar Gracie]

On but we'll be at the end.

[Trisha Paytas]

True.

[Oscar Gracie]

Because there was like no, no, there's like 50 outlets and like, I mean no, no one went to the 50. We'd probably 51, you know, like no one's going to get that far.

[Trisha Paytas]

Especially for the big movies. Like Wicked doesn't need that much promotion. Like let's be honest.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So but like this, like, like when I Love L A premiered like they had obviously had a lot of influences there too. And Rachel Sennett, working girl, a showgirl. Like she went down the whole line. She did every iph.

[Oscar Gracie]

No way. Really?

[Trisha Paytas]

Because I kept seeing so many on my TikTok. Also shout out. This is. I saw Rachel Senate wear this hat.

[Oscar Gracie]

So I got it from I love la. Really? What episode was it?

[Trisha Paytas]

It was the premiere. She had it in the premiere episode in red, red and white. And I got it in both colors.

[Oscar Gracie]

I love it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Cuz I was like, Rachel Sennett, I love your hat.

[Oscar Gracie]

I feel like you've been talking about her for a minute.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love Rachel Sennett.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, love her.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's in Bottoms, which is one of my favorite movies which I think you would enjoy because it's very gay.

[Oscar Gracie]

I need to see it. I never have seen it yet. Who else was in it?

[Trisha Paytas]

It was her and IO Edebury.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, yeah, you did talk about that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Oscar Gracie]

No, I love her too. I remember the idol. I loved her.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh of course.

[Oscar Gracie]

You know, and that. Which was great. And then she did another. What is the other thing we saw her in?

[Trisha Paytas]

She is. She always pops up in shows and stuff and she's done a couple movies.

[Oscar Gracie]

I love her too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, she was in Saturday Night.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh yes, yes. Oh my God. I love her. Yeah. I think she was like Lorne Michael's wife or something in that movie. Like ex wife or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

I just think she is so fun. And I saw there was already on Twitter like people being like, like there's Something off about this girl. I don't know what it is. Yeah, like, everyone wants to find the things, like, hate the new, like, up and comer girl. And I'm like, just let her live.

[Oscar Gracie]

And that's where it starts. Someone just be like, there's something off. It's like.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then they dig. And then the second there's something where you can like moralize disliking her, everyone's gonna jump on it. But I'm on to. I've been around the block too many times. Yeah, I've seen it. I think Ariana and Cynthia are getting it right now too, which is so sad because I think they're like, the sweetest.

[Oscar Gracie]

It's so crazy how people turn.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. I knew it was coming. I knew it was coming. And it's really sad to see. I mean, Ariana in particular has been getting a lot as far as like her body. And I think obviously there's something to say about like, weight and stuff. Whatever. Like, at what point does it get like, I don't know, too thin, blah, blah, blah. But Ariana has like said the boundary herself. Like, she has said several times, like, hey, can you please not. And like, nicer than I would be way nicer. Because some people are diabolical.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And she just like reposted again, I think yesterday. Like she shared like an interview clip where she talked about, like, how it upsets her seeing people comment on her body. So I'm like, she has set the boundary. Like, why can you not, like, respect her boundary? Like, obviously she has seen what people are saying and it like, it hurts her and affects her.

[Oscar Gracie]

You know, I've been kind of doing this in front of the public and kind of been, you know, specimen in a petri dish really, since I was 16 or 17, you know, so I have heard it all. I've heard every version of it, of what's wrong with me. And then you fix it and then it's wrong for different reasons. And then. But that's everything from, you know, even just the simplest thing, your appearance. You know, you're young and you're hearing all kinds of things. It's hard to protect yourself from that noise. And I think it's something that is uncomfortable no matter what scale you're experiencing it on. Even if you go to Thanksgiving dinner and someone's granny says, oh my God, you look skinnier, what happened? Or you look heavier. What happened? It's like, that is something that is uncomfortable and horrible. There's a comfortability that people have Commenting on that, that I think is really dangerous. And I think it's dangerous for all parties involved.

[Trisha Paytas]

And she's like, a very sweet person, has gone through a lot of trauma and still gives people. It's still way too kind with people.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I'm like, just like, leave it alone. And I've seen tick tocks where people are manipulating clips. Like, they'll take out of context clips of them crying or whatever. Like, there was one, I thought, that came up today where it was like, some. They added in the audio, like, so, what is your guys's favorite meal? And then they cut to them crying to make it seem like getting asked about food, like, made them cry. And it's like a clip from, like, an ET interview where that pissed me off. Because the context of the interview, too, was like, like, the reporter is black. And she was saying how, like, seeing Cynthia basically be, like, a black superhero, like, be lady blockbuster, like, yeah, empowered her. And, like, they started crying about it because it was an emotional moment. And then to take that and recontextualize it into them having some kind of problem is so sick and twisted and diabolical. Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

Like, nothing can be done. Right. People can just continue doing that. Just manipulating things. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

It sucks to see. And it's like, just leave this person. Like, they see it, they ask you to stop. And if you keep going, then that you're just kind of a bad person. Person.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. I feel like even like, if they're like, you know, if they're like, someone super healthy and comfortable and confident with their body. Right. Like, I, like, I'm pretty confident with my body, but it's still, like, hurts when people, like, be like. And I don't get those comments as much. I think it's just I'm old or whatever. Just like. But, like, when I used to, it still hurts. Like, you could, like, love your body and it could still hurt. And obviously, if you're not. If you don't love your body, if you're going through something, whoever it is, you know, obviously, like, people say it doesn't help. Like, when people tell you you're fat. Right. I'm just using this for me. Like, it doesn't help me lose weight. It's not like, thank you, like, or pointing out something I didn't know. Oh, my God, I should stop eating. You're absolutely right. Like, it doesn't help. And most of the time, if you have an issue with food, like I do or something, like, it only makes it worse. Like, right now, I'm like, good, right? Whatever. Someone says something, whatever. But I did stress eat over the weekend. I was stress eating. Like, sometimes that stuff just, like, doesn't help. In general. I agree with her, the sentiment of just. And I have to. Have to be so much better at it too, because sometimes you just, like, even if someone looks good, right? Like, if someone's like, damn, you look so good, or something, like, it's just better not to comment on, I think.

[Trisha Paytas]

Especially if they, like, set the boundary themselves, you know? Like, I don't like this. Yeah. So, like, please stop. You know, like, yeah, repeating over and over again. Hey, like, please stop. Like, very gently. It's like, okay, well, like, why continue.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

People are really weird about. Again, wicked in particular. Like, even with Cynthia, Cynthia was getting weird backlash for the way she, like, stepped in to defend Ariana in the Singapore premiere.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, like, what was the backlash?

[Trisha Paytas]

It was really weird.

[Oscar Gracie]

Maybe I'm that friend that's too woke, but I honestly do not find what's funny with all of these different memes and videos villainizing and making fun of Cynthia Rivo. Obviously, you guys know what happened in Singapore with the whole incident with the fan. But these videos that have come out of it, and mostly it's from men who are dressing up as Cynthia and, like, pretending. You know, with everything that's going on, I just. I don't like it. It. I don't like it at all. I feel like there's a lot of underlying tones of racism in it. Misogyny. Like, why is it always men? Why are you making her very masculine? Like, she's just as small as Aria. I mean, it's just. No matter of fact, like, it's just. I don't like it. Like, some of the things. Some of the videos are funny. Like this one behind me, this video was hilarious when they were, like, pretending to be Ariana and Cynthia, because the interviews are like that. But some of the ones that I'm seeing online, it's. It's not right. I know. Like, an amount of likes and comments that are on these videos, I don't understand because it really makes me uncomfortable. And again, maybe I'm sensitive or maybe I'm being too woke about it, but, like, I don't. I don't think so.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was like a mix of things. It was. There was one element of it which was, like, all of a sudden, people were just depicting her as more, like, masculine and big and, like, people were doing, like, caricatures of, like, Ariana looking tiny and her looking big and Like. Like, masculinizing her or whatever. And it's like, all because she's bald. Like, and, like, wanted to defend her friend. Like, that makes her, like. Like, no, like, don't be weird about that.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then the other element, too was like, of course, like, Ariana being, like, the little frail white girl. Like, Cynthia has to go in. It's like, no, she just wanted to defend her friend.

[Oscar Gracie]

That's crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who has, like, gone through a lot of scary incidents in her, like, fame as a child star. So it's like. And if. Again, I'm back. If it was Jonathan Bailey who stepped in to defend Ariana Grande, people would be like, oh, what a guy. He's so brave. He's amazing. Like, we love to see it, but because of Cynthia, people are being weird. I mean, this is just too much.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, my God. You know what? I know, honestly, like, I didn't know at first why they weren't doing interviews. And I guess it came out that, like, Cynthia lost her voice and Ariane, I think, had covered, like, later on or something. So, like, whatever. But I wouldn't have blamed them for just, like, not doing interviews because, like, people are just awful this time around, asking weird questions, being stupid. Like, I. I would be over it, too. Honestly, I'd be like.

[Trisha Paytas]

And everything they do, getting, like, again, like, even the genuine interviews from last year where they had valid reasons to cry, that being, like, used against him. Like, y' all are sick. And the. I don't like the moralizing to dislike someone. Like, I there. People are masking it. Like, oh, we're just concerned for, like, how they. No, you're not. You just dislike them. And, like, you want a reason to, like, dislike them.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, I hate that. I hate when people say that. Like, we're just worried.

[Trisha Paytas]

We're just concerned. No, you're not. Because if you were concerned, you would see that Ariana has asked you to stop, and then that would be that.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. And everyone is aware of their bodies. There's no one that's, like, not aware of what their bodies are. Whether they love it, hate it, they're going through something. Like, everyone is very aware.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

So I always tell people I was like, an adult. I'm like, I understand. I know exactly what I'm doing, what I'm not doing to my body. Like, yeah, there's no. It's no surprise when someone's like, oh, you're fat. Okay, I got that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

So I love.

[Trisha Paytas]

Have you seen that Nikki Blonsky video that's going Around. Oh, God, no. It's just a meme. It's this one clip.

[Oscar Gracie]

Facts was like, we love Mickey Box.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's this one clip of, like, an E. Team interview, ironically, where it was like, everyone's calling me, you're fat. And it's like, well, yeah, I'm publicly.

[Oscar Gracie]

Bullied every single day. I get nasty tweets, oh, you're ugly. You're fat. I'm like, yeah, I am on the heavy side. Tell me something I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. And everyone's been using that, like, post Thanksgiving ever. It's been making the rounds. Like, people are saying, like, if you go into family functions and people sit commenting on your weight or whatever, and people keep using that video. I like, so real. It's so real.

[Oscar Gracie]

Damn. I wish she wasn't problematic because she has some good lines. She has some good lines. And that's true sometimes. Oh, my God, she really ate. That's how I feel. Thanksgiving. Did you have a proper Thanksgiving?

[Trisha Paytas]

Not really. Me and Darian just, like, chilled out and we had dinner. I got food poisoning, actually, from our dinner because we, like, ordered it from somewhere. But honestly, could have been me because I got it the night before. So maybe I just like.

[Oscar Gracie]

You got the food the night before?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, we got on Wednesday because they were like. The restaurant was closed on Thursday. But, yeah, I got food poisoning.

[Oscar Gracie]

Was it rice?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I think. I think the suspect was creamed corn. I think that's. That sounds like. I think so. Yeah. But I don't know. Other than that was pretty chill. I did watch a lot of Stranger Things, though. That was, like, my big task for Thanksgiving.

[Oscar Gracie]

Raffy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Honestly, I should get her thought. I'm not a Stranger Things, Stan. I only started watching it. I started late. It's one of those shows, to me, where, like, you see everyone talking about it. So, like, yeah, I feel like I watched it because. By Osmosis. Because everyone else is talking about it. Like, euphoria for me was, like, kind of the same. Or like, Love Island. Like, these shows where, like, everyone's talking about it and it seems like something I would like, and I think I would like it, but I'm seeing everyone else talk about it, so I feel like I watched it already, so what's the point? But I finally watched it.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, yeah. Like, all's fair. I feel like I've watched. I'm like. I watched it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm like. I feel like I would love it, but I've seen all the clips, and.

[Oscar Gracie]

I'm like, I've Watched it. Yeah, I know what it's about. Yeah. I feel that I could be a.

[Trisha Paytas]

Part of the conversation.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I finally did watch stranger things in 2022 after season four was like, really viral. Maybe it was you that I got trishfluence once you started your cosplays. Yeah, maybe that's all day.

[Oscar Gracie]

I would just see the trends online. Like euphoria too. I never saw season two. I only saw some of season one. I really gotta start watching on season three, though. That's factory.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'll be back.

[Oscar Gracie]

I feel like that'll be good. But season two, I just saw so many clips on TikTok that I was like. I felt like I knew the character. So I was like, okay. I feel like I'll like, same thing was my point is Stranger Things 2, I just saw so many people talk about this Eddie character. So let me watch one and then I watch one episode. I'm like, okay, I get it. I know is. You know I know back and I know all of it. Okay, great. But you just got to really know the virality ones and that's all it matters. This one didn't have any viral moments. I didn't see this one.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, with season five, I think it's more.

[Oscar Gracie]

Spoilers are coming. Spoilers are coming. Spoiler, get out now. Spoiler alert. Three, two, one. Spoiler warning.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because it is the final season, it's more like in plot driven, more intense. There's no like real like key or anything to it. You know, it's all very much like, let's get to solving, like, you know, wrapping all this up. Because it's like the final season supposed to tie the loose ends.

[Oscar Gracie]

Did it?

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, they're doing the A3 drop. So it was the first four episodes for Thanksgiving. The next episodes are on Christmas and then the finale is on New Year's, which I do not like. I do not like a four out of three at a time or whatever. Because, like, you're only getting a part of the story. Then I have to wait a whole month. Wednesday did it too. By the time part two came around, I was like, I forgot everything. I'm not like, either do a week or give it an episode a week or give it to me all at once.

[Oscar Gracie]

Especially for the holidays. I feel like they should just do it all. But they look forward to. I guess.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess.

[Oscar Gracie]

But would I like it? Should we watch it?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I don't think you would like it.

[Oscar Gracie]

I have no interest in it.

[Trisha Paytas]

No.

[Oscar Gracie]

No offense. Unless you want to Cast me on the next season. If there is one.

[Trisha Paytas]

There's this prequel is spin off. You know, we'll circle back.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, maybe.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes. It's. We saw a couple episodes of the fourth and I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

I scary.

[Trisha Paytas]

I, I. So I'm not like a stand, but like I enjoy it because it's like, you know, it's sci fi. It's like some action and stuff. I think if I think too critically about it, I wouldn't like it. But if I just like kind of turn my mind off and like sit enjoy it because it is hard. The, the kids now are supposed to be like, I think 16, 17. And they're like in their, they're like 22.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. They're like having babies.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And they just look so much older and like. Yes. Just people keep bringing up. Well, like in Glee they were like 30 being high school. Yes. But we didn't see them when they were 12, you know.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, that's true.

[Trisha Paytas]

We just saw them grow up and they look so different. And it's only in the show. It's been only four years, but it's been 10 years for like real life.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, yeah. Distracting.

[Trisha Paytas]

So it's kind of distracting.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And they gave Millie Bobby Brown a really weird outfit and I love Millie Bobby Brown and they, everything's like a reference. So they put her in a outfit that Josh Brolin wore in the Goonies because It's like an 80s movie and it's supposed to like, I don't know, be a reference. But it's like a, a, a gray, it's like gray leggings, like the little workout shorts over the leggings. And then she has a gray like long sleeve, like this, like a gray long sleeve of this and then like a crop top over it and then a bandana. So she's not really serving. I'm like, yes, it's the 80s, but we can still serve. And she's supposed to be like the big super. Like put her in a cute outfit.

[Oscar Gracie]

Like for the love of God, what would you like to have seen her in?

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean it could still be like, you know, and ate like a little flannel or jeans or whatever. Like in season three she had these cute little, like she had a little plaid button up. She had a scrunchie on her hair and she had some high waisted jeans and she had some of the suspenders. And I was like, that's a cute 80s look. I like the scrunchie.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

This is just a little diabolical. To me. She's supposed to go on the Upside down and kill Vecna in this outfit.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, she has to do it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I will. See? I don't know.

[Oscar Gracie]

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[Trisha Paytas]

There was like Demogorgons, Mind Flayer and then season four and five. Now Vecna is supposed to be the. The big. The reason why. Almost like the Voldemort. But I do feel like they kind of added him in. Like he was not the original idea, but he became like, we're just gonna.

[Oscar Gracie]

Bring him back again.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

I loved him in Sweeney Todd.

[Trisha Paytas]

Jamie Campbell Bauer.

[Oscar Gracie]

Never see it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I. No, but I saw Mortal Instruments, which was like the. The Twilight. It was in the Twilight era and he was. I think he was Jace in the Mortal Instruments. Loved him in that.

[Oscar Gracie]

Okay, so you are familiar with this.

[Trisha Paytas]

Game in an Almond Twilight? Of course. He said he's in the Volturi.

[Oscar Gracie]

What's that? Well, the way you said that, I was like.

[Trisha Paytas]

So you don't remember the Volturi?

[Oscar Gracie]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you see the Breaking Dawn?

[Oscar Gracie]

I think I've seen all of them.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know the. The group that comes after the Cullens? Like the vampire group with red eyes. Yes. Yeah, he's in there.

[Oscar Gracie]

They were very. Not significant though. Right? Like, they gave nothing.

[Trisha Paytas]

True. The roles were not that, you know.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Epic. But was in there serving face. Dakota Fanning.

[Oscar Gracie]

Was she in his. Dakota Fanning?

[Trisha Paytas]

Dakota Fanny's the one that threw the baby in the fire. Oh, my God.

[Oscar Gracie]

When was this? Did you remember this?

[Trisha Paytas]

What?

[Oscar Gracie]

Baby Renese.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I. Oh, no, it was. It was another vampire baby.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh. And what happened?

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, there was. Remember they were scared of Renesmee getting killed by the Voltur because of the. It was like against the rules of vampirism. And it cut.

[Oscar Gracie]

I was like Legally Blonde. It's like, it's against the rules of feminism. I was like, wait, why does that sound like something. I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then so it cut to her in the past where there was another vampire. Like half human, half vampire baby. And it's like against the code. So she just threw it into the.

[Oscar Gracie]

Fire and does the baby burn if it's a vampire?

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess so. Yeah, the baby died. She just killed that baby. She just dropped it so, like nonchalant into this fire.

[Oscar Gracie]

I was not like, vampires. Like, you can't burn them. Isn't there something that you can't. A witch. You can't burn someone you can't burn.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think a witch. They were burning them at the stake. No. And don't throw water on them either.

[Oscar Gracie]

Definitely not that. Definitely not that. I don't know. Something you can't burn. I thought there is something that does not burn a metal.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Moses]

Anyway, that one is a mix. So that's why.

[Oscar Gracie]

Well, he seems like a good actor.

[Trisha Paytas]

That does bring me to one of my hot topics, though, you know, I mean, again, this is a bad transition from talking about bodies to now Vecna. But look at that revenge. Like, look at.

[Oscar Gracie]

I thought we're not commenting.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. I'm so sorry. To Vecna.

[Oscar Gracie]

Which one is which? Which is the before and after?

[Trisha Paytas]

This one is him. More. Let me turn my brain.

[Oscar Gracie]

Wait, what?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, so this is him season four and now season five. Look at that waist. That waist.

[Oscar Gracie]

You're saying it's a glow up?

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I'm not gonna say if it's good or bad.

[Oscar Gracie]

Well, that's what I'm saying. Everyone's like, wow, Vecna's waist looks so much better. But like. Like, heaven forbid, like, a girl loses a little weight and they're like, nothing to say about anyone. It's like, oh, you know, like, that's glorified. He's like, oh, my God, look at. Look how good he looks. I'm sorry, that was a little. A little too bummy to me, Honestly. I think he looked better. I know what, you're right. I don't care how. Whatever way he feels healthiest. Why did they do that, though? What happened? What was the storyline?

[Trisha Paytas]

It has not been addressed yet as far as why Vecna's waist is suddenly snatched. But I hope. Hope it comes up in conversation. I wish I saw this before they did all the interviews because the interviews were a couple weeks ago. And I wish I had seen this because this would have been my first question for the Duffer brothers and for Jamie Campbell Bower, maybe for Millie Bobby Brown as well.

[Oscar Gracie]

What would you have asked?

[Trisha Paytas]

Why. Why is Vecna's waist snatched in season five? And what happened to it? Like, why is it snatched all of a sudden? Like, I hope that's explored in the.

[Oscar Gracie]

Plot sponsored by ro.

[Trisha Paytas]

I hope there's an explanation. Like, I don't know if the upside Down. I mean, there are. They don't eat pharmacies on the upside down, I think. I don't know.

[Oscar Gracie]

Pharmacies, I think.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right? I think everything. Everything on here is also in the upside down.

[Oscar Gracie]

But okay, there's.

[Moses]

It's just more extreme.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah. So maybe the GLP ones are just, like, a lot stronger.

[Moses]

Maybe their metabolism is different. They're upside down.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Oh, tea. Or maybe waist trainer.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, we do love a waist trainer. Yeah, we do.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, maybe that's like, very much like. Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

Okay. He looks good both ways. He looks good. That's so funny though, that they did that.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. Because, like, that's a pretty big change.

[Oscar Gracie]

You know what? Society is ruining us. That's what it is. It's like, why are they. Why are they putting these small waists everywhere? The corsets, you know, everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

Even Vecna being snatched is a bad sign.

[Oscar Gracie]

Can I tell you not to go back to the wicked premiere? But, you know, we had my dress and one option was to put a corset in it, and they did the corset. Remember? I took a picture because I was like, what the hell? They do my measurements, right? I think out of a corset. I'm like a 39 inch waist or something. Or like 40. I don't know. I might be a 40 inch waist with the corset. I was 32 inch waist. He, like, sucked it so tight, and I was so tiny, so little. And like, well, we can do this. We can build the dress around your thing. And you know what? I opted not to use the corset.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

I was like, one, I want to be able to breathe. And two, I was like, I mean, this is my body. So, like, it's gonna be weird if I'm just. I mean, my boobs went way up. My boobs were.

[Moses]

I looked like.

[Oscar Gracie]

I was like freaking Bridgerton.

[Moses]

It was like a shell here. I was like, you can just put water right there.

[Oscar Gracie]

That might be a little crazy, but also, like, my waist looked insane. Like, I had. My hips are like 52 inches. My bust is like 45 inches. It was gonna be a 32 inch waist. It was so insane how they did that. It was. I mean, it was. It was everything. But it reminds me of that picture. It reminds me of that. And I'm like, why are we. And that's what I thought when I had it on. I'm like, why am I trying to act like I have a 32 inch waist? That's not me. That's not what it is. You know, Vecna too. I don't know why we had to yesify him. Like, why is he now just a little twink, you know? So weird.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, it is very odd also. He's weirdly. I don't want to say child, but he is collecting them kids and it is very odd. And. Well, yeah. And the kids. But.

[Oscar Gracie]

But yet you loved Aunt Gladys. You said Aunt Gladys is the star dress as her. And I was like, I feel like it's giving the same.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're not wrong about that either. It is giving weapons. Nachos.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. I don't know about this home.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And I'm also watching the show welcome to Dairy, which is another show about. It's like based on it. The clown.

[Oscar Gracie]

Hate it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. It's another one where the kids are just.

[Oscar Gracie]

I hate. That's like the worst one for kids. I'm like. You know how I always talk about kids acting and like, whatever. I mean, that one I've seen behind the scenes. It's scary.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Like, it is scary. I mean, me as a kid was so scared of. Of Pennywise.

[Oscar Gracie]

Did you watch? Which one did you watch as a kid? Was the new one out when you were a kid?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I. It was the Tim Curry one. Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

The old one. Yes, that one was scary. But I feel like the new one.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is like, the new ones, even for me, is really scary. Yeah. But I've seen behind the scenes to do it as from. Bill Skarsgard is the current Pennywise. And there's like, behind the scenes of him, like, trying to be normal with the kids. Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

They try to be like, it's fine.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. But then I saw Bill Hader, who plays the adult kid, like, in the second one.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Went up. He's like, so how do they do that in cgi? And then Bill Skarsgard goes into the face and he runs away scared. I was like, well, if he's afraid, then how are the kids?

[Oscar Gracie]

The kids are. Have to have a little trauma, I would think.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

I'm not. Who's. Who's the Pennywise in this show?

[Trisha Paytas]

It's still Bill Scars in the TV show. Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

Usually they like when Clueless got the TV show, like Leech. Yeah. Oh, Donald Faith on State on that one.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's not in a lot. Like, a lot of it, though. So he has like. Like bits and he's like the presence, but he's not in it a whole lot. He was. I think it's episode five. He finally, like, shows up as Pennywise, but.

[Oscar Gracie]

And he eats kids.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, he doesn't. Yeah, it's graphic. They show a lot.

[Oscar Gracie]

Really? Why? Okay, well, I guess. Who did we hear this from? I don't know. Someone said, like, the only movies getting made now are, like, horror films. Like, it's like that action or horror films. Like, no comedies, nothing. Maybe I need to get on the horror bandwagon. I need to stop criticizing it. If all these movies are getting made.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Oscar Gracie]

All right, Blumhouse, I'll accept your offer. Me in your next film.

[Trisha Paytas]

But.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes. I was so close. I was. Oh, my God. Speaking of Blumhouse, Five Nights at Freddy guy was in I love la. What's name?

[Trisha Paytas]

Josh Hutcherson.

[Oscar Gracie]

He looks so different.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. It's wearing a Josh Hutcherson Renaissance right now. And I'm not mad at it. I really am not mad at it. He's still. He's still here for the gays. The dolls.

[Oscar Gracie]

Another anti gay psa. Anti gay. We need an anti.

[Trisha Paytas]

Anti homophobia, anti hom. The pro gay. Yeah, go do an anti gay.

[Oscar Gracie]

We need the pro gay back again. Yeah. What is that called? Like, the Hillary Duff ones? What are those? Anti. What?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, no, hate.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, no hate. I guess maybe something like that. Yeah. Need to do another one of those. What was his. What was his line that.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was like, doesn't that mean more girls for you? Like, something like that. Right? Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

He's like, why do you have a problem with guys? Like, guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I like. Yeah, Josh Hutcherson spilled.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love being in the Josh Hutcherson Renaissance. It's. He's booked and busy.

[Oscar Gracie]

He looks so much older. And I love la.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I mean, he. He's my age, so. Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, he's like my. A little older than me, but.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, no, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, he's my age. I remember I was a Josh Hutcherson stand in this Hunger Games era.

[Oscar Gracie]

So you're like, we're the same age.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And I love seeing him thrive again because, you know, it was tough to see J. Law go and get all the acclaim and awards and stuff when Josh Hutcherson is such a little sweetie. So I love that he's good.

[Oscar Gracie]

He was great in The Isle of LA.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And I'm happy he is back for FNAF2. I want. And I think he's rumored to be in the next Hunger Games movie as well, and I hope he is.

[Oscar Gracie]

What do you think about those little leaks of all the characters or in the trailer? Is that where it was I saw little pictures of the characters and I was like. And everyone was, like, pissed about them. I saw people mad about it.

[Moses]

Oh.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, there are like some set photos, but they did a. It's crazy because filming just wrapped on the Hunger Games Sunrise on the Reaping, and then they post. They already had a trailer. I was like, this is crazy.

[Oscar Gracie]

Wait, when did that come out?

[Trisha Paytas]

The trailer came out last week, I think. Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

What do you think of it?

[Trisha Paytas]

It looks great so far for having just literally just finished filming, like before Thanksgiving and already have a trailer and it already looking good. I'm like, well, yes. Like, this is what we need to see. Yeah. And there's. The book is really good. There's a lot of action in it. The casting is great. Big budget because they got some big names.

[Oscar Gracie]

Who's the big names?

[Trisha Paytas]

Like an Elle Fanning, Jesse Plummet, Glenn Close.

[Oscar Gracie]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Probably J. Law and Josh Hutcherson.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, I see.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. But the kid. The younger actors, like, the tributes are all, like, newer actors. But I. I love McKenna Grace, who is also in Five Nights at Freddy and she was in Young Sheldon and she was in the Colleen Hoover movie. Regretting it.

[Moses]

You.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm a McKenna Grace fan. Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

I love that. Sounds like a rising star.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, I have a. I have an eight girl sense. I have an it girl sense and I get it from her.

[Oscar Gracie]

You got the Jake Shane, you got the Rachel Senate, and now you have her. You are good.

[Trisha Paytas]

Cat's eye. Cat's Eye, I think is my proudest.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, that one was like. You knew them from the beginning.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I felt it. My sense went off immediately when I saw those girls.

[Oscar Gracie]

So I'm trying to DM them, see if they want to link up.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God, please do. I'm sorry. So, yeah, I think my ticket has the meet and greets you. And I'm like, I'm so excited.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

Me showing up in this shirt. I kind of want to. I think that's gonna be my outfit.

[Oscar Gracie]

But you met them so many. You met them already?

[Trisha Paytas]

Just once. And it was like I was depressed and like, disassociating, so I don't really count that.

[Oscar Gracie]

Okay. So you're like, this is my time.

[Trisha Paytas]

Randomly. I have a couple videos. Like, I. When I did that shoot with Cat side, like, we. At first my, like, social video was gonna be like, individual videos with them, but then they were getting ready for the Kids Choice Awards. So like, halfway through, they ran out of time. So I only have a video with Yunche And Lara. And I keep forgetting on my phone. I was like. And it came up in my, like, memories or something. I was like, why do I have this selfie video of Laura in my.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I feel like I should just leak. Like me just posting it one day.

[Oscar Gracie]

What is it of?

[Trisha Paytas]

It's that it was supposed to be a transition of them before and after. So I got the before of two of out of five or two out of six of them. And.

[Oscar Gracie]

Well, that's your reason to go backstage. Like, I need that.

[Trisha Paytas]

I need the best after.

[Oscar Gracie]

Ah, they really have blood. And I'm so big.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know their tours look crazy. I really want us to do the. The eat zucchini trend.

[Oscar Gracie]

What is that one?

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that you're so out of the loop. Cuz I feel so out of it.

[Oscar Gracie]

I'm so. And I don't want to be, but I am.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's the. They have a new song that isn't out yet, but they perform it on their tour. It's called Internet Girl. And they go eat zucchini. Eat zucchini. Do you read me? Like the emoji and then the little dance. They, like, do this and they have like different faces, like different emoji faces. And they have like their dances again, kind of like gnarly. It's like a viral dance that everyone's doing already because it's like, eat zucchini. In my mind, me directing the music video, I think it's called Internet Girl. So I think they need an Internet girl and eat zucchini. It's like a mukbang kind of reference. It's supposed to be like, like, you know, eat a. Basically.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh.

[Trisha Paytas]

But it's like a mukbang reference. So I'm like, Internet girl, mukbang. I think you're gonna be cast in.

[Moses]

The music and you know where it's all starting. What, with the stuffed zucchini.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, I need those zucchinis. Yeah, we did make them on patreon. Patreon.com. moses made some zucchinis on there. We needed some videos. I don't know though. Like, am I actually eating a zucchini? Or maybe just the sound. I haven't seen it everywhere.

[Moses]

Eggplant with zucchini, Right? It's kind of like what eggplant used to be.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And I think zucchini kind of just rhymed a little bit more. They went with zucchini. It's a. They do the dance. So we gotta learn the dance.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, you want to do the dance? Okay, that's what I was asking.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's a dance trend. It'll be a music video at some point. And I'm casting you in the music video despite having no, you know, influence in the Cat's Eye creative team.

[Oscar Gracie]

But no, I feel like you've been manifesting. I didn't see the video you made for the intermission tonight, but Taylor's like, oh, should I. Should I take the White Lotus music out for copyright? I was like, what White Lotus music? So I haven't seen it. So I was like, what did Oscar say?

[Trisha Paytas]

That is my Trishmas wish.

[Oscar Gracie]

I don't even know what it could be. I literally was like, my Trishma wish, like, you know, world peace. And then he's like, should I take the White Lotus? I'm like, whose is that? I was like, okay, I have.

[Trisha Paytas]

Very specific. Yeah, very specific.

[Oscar Gracie]

Was that your only one or did you give other one?

[Trisha Paytas]

Three in total. Yes. One for the world, one for you, one for me.

[Oscar Gracie]

Okay.

[Moses]

Oh, I love that.

[Oscar Gracie]

I can't wait to see it. I know. I got all the videos and I just was like, of course. Last minute me, I was literally doing mine. Like that day when I texted you, I was like, I do my Moses too. He's like, why don't you tell me about this? I'm like, I kind of forgot, but I needed something. So when I changed clothes. So thank you for doing that. I haven't seen it, but you'll see Oscar in our intermission.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

I don't know what it is, but.

[Trisha Paytas]

It'Ll be a surprise to everybody.

[Oscar Gracie]

You see what his Christmas wish is there? Wait, how do we get on that? Oh, the manifesting. Yes. I was like, you are such a. You are visionary. Really? You're really a visionary.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I mean, I just see it, like, it just makes sense to me. I really should start doing it for myself, I think, because I. I. But I do see you. I think I also live vicariously through you. So I'm like, if you're in the Cat's Eye video, I'm kind of in the cat video.

[Oscar Gracie]

You could be the zucchini Internet girl.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you like zucchinis?

[Moses]

This?

[Trisha Paytas]

I do like a fried zucchini, actually. Fried zucchini. I love a fried zucchini.

[Moses]

Yeah. The restaurant he always goes to.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Magiano's. Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

They have fried zucchini.

[Moses]

Yeah, we had it when we went there once.

[Oscar Gracie]

Fried zucchini.

[Moses]

Zucchini and fried too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Fried is.

[Oscar Gracie]

His are huge. His zucchinis are, like, ginormous. He stuffs Them with like.

[Moses]

Yeah, cuz they're stuffed.

[Oscar Gracie]

They're like this big.

[Trisha Paytas]

Girl. Oh my God. You need.

[Oscar Gracie]

Okay, make a stuff. So maybe that should be our patreon. Oh, we did a patreon already?

[Moses]

No, it's just for a tick tock. You can use that sound when you eat them.

[Oscar Gracie]

What's in them?

[Moses]

You know, anything you want. I mean it's. I don't have to put them in, but it's rice and meat. But you can do it vegetarian with rice and vegetables.

[Oscar Gracie]

I wonder if you would like a stuffed zucchini. What kind of. You like meat?

[Moses]

He would like it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I think so.

[Moses]

Stuff I know that he likes.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, he's picky. You're picky too. I'm picky too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you like stuffed zucchini?

[Oscar Gracie]

I don't know. I think you put too much mint in it last time.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, do you like mint? No.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, maybe not.

[Moses]

But it doesn't really. Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

I heard a stomach. Is that yours?

[Moses]

Probably.

[Oscar Gracie]

I know we haven't eaten. Okay. Sorry.

[Moses]

But when we went to New York, you have to go there. The restaurant with the big dishes.

[Oscar Gracie]

Carmines.

[Moses]

Carmines. There's their Fried zucchinis are almost like. Like the string fries. You can't stop eating those. Like that's the best fried zucchinis ever.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

You need to go to New York.

[Oscar Gracie]

This was so good. Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was in New York. This like it was your last show. They came in and I kept DMing them. I was like, go see Beetlejuice.

[Moses]

They're like, we're performing.

[Oscar Gracie]

What do you mean? Love that though. Thank you for being the street team for me. I know. I wanted to stay for the Thanksgiving Day parade because my. The girls love, love K Pop demon hunters. Like they're obsessed with contracts. Like they. I got them. They're their. Those purple crochet hats that Al Roker wore and Hoda on when they announced them. It's like this long braid and it's a purple crochet. I got one for Malibu and Ellis. They know every word.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's so cute.

[Oscar Gracie]

I don't even know every word. They know every word.

[Moses]

Golden and soda pop.

[Oscar Gracie]

They're famous how they love distress. A soda pop. That was the. That was the big one. Yeah, but they love love because she.

[Moses]

Remembered that we dressed up as so. Oh, that's so cute.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's about me.

[Oscar Gracie]

That was crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Except Elvis cried at me when I was wearing my Kpop Demon hunter.

[Oscar Gracie]

That was like.

[Moses]

Like crazy that I don't think it was possible she just woke up from.

[Trisha Paytas]

That I y forever.

[Oscar Gracie]

You know, that week was crazy. That week we did all those Halloween costumes was so insane. Like, how do we do all that? That last week, that was crazy, wild. Like, I was like, you wanted to do the whole month. You're like, let's do the whole month. I was like, that's crazy. We should do more cosplays. But I guess when it strikes, I don't know when the next that's true.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. It has to happen organically.

[Oscar Gracie]

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[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my God. I cannot believe. First of all, did they have a premiere or anything? Because like I. I wanted just choice to be like, you know the correspondence. I thought they had a premiere. Escape the Night, red carpet interviewing everyone would have been.

[Oscar Gracie]

I would have been. I would go.

[Trisha Paytas]

We would have ate that up.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, Joey, if you have one, maybe you can make one up. Yeah, I'm just so conf. Love it. By the way, Congratulations. We love A2B. I've always said that. We love A2B. 2B puts like everything on there, which I love. Like they have the. They have all the. These. What's the one with. What's the guy from Tick Tock Quarterback.

[Trisha Paytas]

He was like, no back.

[Oscar Gracie]

No back.

[Trisha Paytas]

I saw my email. I'm so bad at my emails. But they kept inviting me to the. That premiere movie because I saw it like three weeks late when it already ended.

[Oscar Gracie]

We gotta check.

[Trisha Paytas]

My apologies to 2B.

[Oscar Gracie]

I love to be. They send us free stuff all the time. Free shirts, nothing else free. Well, not all the time. One time. Let me not be crazy. They sponsored me last year for something. Super Bowl. Oh, word. You could watch the super bowl on Tuesday on Tubi last year. I don't know if you can this year. But that was my little thing. And it was Bolognese. They wanted me to eat Bolognese and talk about it. And I was like, like love it to be. You're the best. Home of Escape the Night now. But I'm so confused. Like it's. I saw Joey, try to explain it. Is this a new season? He's like, well, no, it's not a season. It's three episodes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I think originally it was supposed to just be like, one movie. And then, I mean, I could be getting this wrong. But, like, when I. The last I heard back in the day, it was supposed to be like, a movie to kind of wrap things up. And I know that was, like, his intention. He wanted to have, like, one more entry into, like, this universe to kind of wrap up the other season so that way he can go. And if he does, like, another. Another pitch of it, it's more like an anthology with, like, a fresh start. But he wanted to wrap this up for, like, the.

[Oscar Gracie]

He compared it to RuPaul's Drag Race.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. And the traitors.

[Oscar Gracie]

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[Trisha Paytas]

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[Oscar Gracie]

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[Trisha Paytas]

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[Oscar Gracie]

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[Trisha Paytas]

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[Oscar Gracie]

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[Trisha Paytas]

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[Oscar Gracie]

What? What does that mean? Like a RuPaul's Drag Race. Like it's a new competition every.

[Trisha Paytas]

He means he wants it to go on forever. Yeah. And like fresh.

[Oscar Gracie]

Okay, I love that. 20 seasons.

[Trisha Paytas]

And just like fresh cat. Like fresh storylines, fresh contestants. Every Time not, not connected. But it's given. That is because it is, it is like a competition. But it is also semi like script as far as like lore. Like there's lore and there's like a loose script. But I think maybe he wants to transition it into more like competition series, less like lore and storylines.

[Oscar Gracie]

I think the traders got you on that one, Joey. I mean, not to say you started it first. I'm saying maybe you should have, you should have soared. You know what I mean? But I think the traders got the monopoly on that. But. All right, well, I love it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm sure we'll react to it at some point.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. We reacted to the first episodes of a couple. They were, they were good. They were good produced. Jojo Siwa was the big surprise when he was here. I said JoJo because it's already been leaked and he's like, believe it that out.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

I was like, wait.

[Moses]

But okay, but he has, he has an advantage over traders. Like he can get all, you know, the tick tock or social media. They can get people that more people actually watch then, you know, it's just different. Like I think he has some advantage.

[Oscar Gracie]

I think traders could easily get any influencer.

[Moses]

They could, but they don't. That's what I'm saying. They, they either go for like celebrities or now citizens. So they're kind of like missing the people that will actually.

[Oscar Gracie]

Well, look at Dancing with the Stars. It was like their biggest season ever. Because of the social me, I mean, I would assume, right? Like Alex, Earl, Whitney. Love it. Like the Mormon wives, women. Like, I think social media was huge for them. Yeah, you're right.

[Moses]

I saw the, the trailer for it. It was really impressive.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, the trailer looked really good. I actually really do want to see it. I'm excited to see the scene that caused all the commotion. But yeah, because I don't know, I didn't really see that in the trailer that much. But we'll see.

[Oscar Gracie]

Tana had no idea that I was going to. To be. She's like, oh. Because I, I heard from somewhere. I just a source but I don't know if it's confirmed. It's like that they weren't paid to be on it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh. I think because yeah, it wasn't made to be a, a thing.

[Oscar Gracie]

Like okay, but like then once you tell it you have to like pay someone.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's a good question.

[Oscar Gracie]

I'm like, hey, I thought this was like a fan made project.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, crowdfunded, right?

[Moses]

Not if, not if it's not in the contract, if it's. Let's say you do a project and people do it for fun and support you and it just happened to be good enough that somebody picks it up.

[Oscar Gracie]

Then you should pay as good as a good favor. Like, good.

[Moses]

You know, just be like, you're just very generous. Like, most people don't.

[Oscar Gracie]

But it's like my friends are making a show with me for fun, and I'm like, hey, guys, it's just crowdfunded. Whatever. I mean, you have. Yeah, you have to. I would think. I mean, you should, right? I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know either.

[Oscar Gracie]

I think you should.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess it depends. Like, I don't know the logistics of, like, the to be deal. Like, I'm sure they bought it for how much?

[Oscar Gracie]

I mean, give me 100 bucks a day. Give me a per diem. I mean, I guess it was only a one day shoot, but give me, you know, give me a couple hundred for that. For my, you know, injury or whatever, you know, if there was one. Allegedly. I don't know. But, you know, I just think, like, okay, I don't know. I don't want to get you in the weeds. Congratulations. I think it is great that everyone does look great. We love a Manny. Manny Mua is like, growing on me. He did something cool over my New York break, and I can't remember what it was, but I like him. Nikita Dragon. We love to see her back. Jojo, we love.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I guess I didn't know about this, but the fans, I guess, were mad that Jojo was in it. But I think after seeing. From the. From the trailer. But I think after seeing it, then Jojo won him over. But from what I saw when I popped up in, like, my FYP and stuff, people weren't mad that Jojo was in it because she is like a new character.

[Oscar Gracie]

Ow.

[Trisha Paytas]

And, like, hasn't been in it before.

[Moses]

She ended up dating anyone into a cast.

[Oscar Gracie]

Maybe a good couple, actually.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Tina was single.

[Oscar Gracie]

Well, Jojo's pretty young.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, t. Yeah. But Tina's not that old either.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, she's 26, I guess. 26. 21. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

I'm watching for Tana, actually. I love Roach. I love everybody. I love everyone on the show. Right. Is there anyone I don't love? No, that's it. There's only six people. Five people.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I don't think there's anyone, like, controversial or anything in it.

[Oscar Gracie]

Right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Not. I don't think so.

[Oscar Gracie]

I don't think so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Oh. I just realized they're also doing, like, 80s and so is Stranger Things. And I think I like. Yeah, I think I'd like, escape the night's outfits more than the Stranger Things outfits.

[Oscar Gracie]

That's crazy. So, yeah, I have to watch and compare. Yeah, the outfits look good. He looks like Marty McFly.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Yeah, man, he looks great. I guess. Also, this is a random pivot, but I just remembered the Tana Mongeau Millie Bobby Brown crossover, speaking of, was also so wild.

[Oscar Gracie]

I know I didn't talk to her about that. Like, we talked about a little bit on that loveline, but it was so much. They do look like each other.

[Trisha Paytas]

They crazy. I didn't really clock that until seeing them together. I was like, whoa.

[Oscar Gracie]

She said she was, like, so nice that they, like, met at an event and like to do the tick tock. Like, Millie Bob Brown was even like, hey, can we turn on the music so they could, like, hear the TikTok and stuff. Yeah, she was really nice.

[Trisha Paytas]

I really like Millie Bobby Brown.

[Oscar Gracie]

I do too. I feel like she also gets, like, not a hate train, but, like a weird amount of hate for doing nothing, for just existing.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, the last. I don't know if it was changer things. I forget which press tour she was at that people were really on her for, like, she looks so old. Blah, blah, blah. For, like, how she was styled and stuff. And then now she looks like. I feel like people were too harsh on her. But it's one of those things where it's like, people are really harsh, but then you're like, fine. Like, you guys. She took the criticism, I think, and now, like, whoever's styling her now, she looks great and everything. I love her hair. Like, yeah, she looks so good. Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

But I see now everyone complaining that her husband's like, a deadbeat.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

Doesn't do anything. Now he's carrying strollers. So again, I guess they took the criticism and flipped it. They're like, well, I'll start carrying this. Like, guess so. I mean, like, that's what I'm saying. Sometimes I'm like, God, people just let people exist. Like, you don't know the situation. Maybe she's strong, maybe she likes to do it, but she's like, give me this. Like, I can do it quicker.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, it is also tough. Like, you see a glimpse, like, out of context. Like, you're not. You have to, like, remember you're not seeing people's, like, full lives, you know, And I'm guilty of it all the time. Like, you see something and then like, Especially I've clocked this to within myself is really random example, but Alandria with, like, Nick from Love Island, I'm like, I love Alandria, and I love seeing her, like, become a huge star. And then I'm like, like, just be careful. And I have no reason to. I haven't even seen the show. But I'm like, I'm just weirdly protective just because, like, a girl. And I'm like, don't let a straight. Don't, you know, don't let a straight guy come to you in your career. She has nothing to worry about. Nick seems perfectly fine. But no matter what, every time I see Nick, I'm, like, suspicious of him for no reason.

[Oscar Gracie]

Well, I feel like those couples. I don't know anything about this either. I don't. I love her. I think she should be in, like, the next Barbie movie. I love her. I just think she's, like, iconic, and I know nothing about the relationship, but I know what you're saying, because, like, love is blind. You just always hear about the guys being, like, cheating and being, like, the worst people ever, and you're just like, not that couple. And you're just like, so. Everyone's always so pissed. They're like, how could you do that to this person?

[Trisha Paytas]

You know?

[Oscar Gracie]

So I get where you're coming from, because statistically, we don't see couples last very long.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Like Janae and Kenny we just saw a couple months ago, like, they had the big breakup, too, and Kenny was, like, terrible and, like, racist and everything. So I'm just like. Even though Nixon is perfectly nice and everything, and there are some couples on Love island that have, like, lasted. So. But I don't know.

[Oscar Gracie]

You know what happens, too? I feel like sometimes when like. Like, someone becomes such a bigger star, like, there can be resentment, even if you, like, don't mean there to be, like, it could just happen. Right. Like, you're both on the same show. You're both, like, okay, we're gonna, like, be stars together because they both want, you know, whatever they want. But then when one rises and one doesn't, I feel like, I don't know. Again, Nick could be rising. I have no idea. I'm not trying to say them specifically, but in general. In general, I think, like, if one becomes too famous. Who was it? Jessica Simpson? Nicholas.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Oscar Gracie]

That's the best example where she became. She out famed. Him. She, you know, grew him, and. And he, like, couldn't handle it. She was, like, trying to keep it together, and he couldn't handle it. He started being to her and literally just because she gave more famous. And then that was another relationship. And now we all look back, we're like Nick Lachey. Even though the moment we're like, oh, my God, Jessica's so dumb. And like, now we're like, oh, was. He was the problem. And she was trying. She was trying to hold it together. She's like, can we just get, like, help cleaning the house? He's like, I'm not paying someone 20 an hour. You get up, you're lazy. I was like, nick Lachey. I'm like, what are you doing right now? You're doing absolutely nothing. She's doing Dukes of hazard. She had her dessert lip line. She had all this stuff like that. And I like was like, she should.

[Trisha Paytas]

Bring that back too, by the way.

[Oscar Gracie]

So good. Did we talk about this already? I love their dessert line. Oh, you could eat at the edible lip gloss.

[Trisha Paytas]

The cream literally, she ate.

[Oscar Gracie]

I know. Oh, God. They should do that. But with like, like, since we like, like chicken nuggets and like, french fries.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Some savory things.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. Oh, God, it'd be so good, dad. Like a chicken nugget lips.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's your line, Arby's.

[Oscar Gracie]

Let's get it going. I do have. I do have some thoughts for Arby's. I think maybe like, some popcorn chicken or something, you know? Do you remember popcorn chicken?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, of course.

[Oscar Gracie]

Like, I feel like a lot of place used to have popcorn chicken, but, like, I feel like no one has it anymore.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. But yeah, you should come up with a little, like a food themed cosmic. Although I was gonna say you should, but seeing Michaela with all her backlash for her lip kit line, I love that you're so out of the loop. I feel so. Yes. I feel so in the loop. Even though I've been out of the loop. But in comparison, I missed it.

[Oscar Gracie]

I missed you for this reason. I really have been. I'm like, I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, she released. Released a lip combo. It's like her first color cosmetics product. Like, she did. She has POV beauty. She had the skin prep line and then she released a lip package line. I think it retailed for like $44. And it's supposed to be like, you have the one coat of, like, gloss, and then it's like it comes with that. She in her tick tock, she goes, and you can amp it up. She kept saying, amp it up. And then you could layer, layer, layer. And it will never stick. It will never get. Get Pulley or whatever. It won't get stringy. And she was very proud of that.

[Oscar Gracie]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

And she was like, you can put it. The whole thing was amp it up. Like you can put as many layers as possible and it won't stick or it won't have the stringiness.

[Oscar Gracie]

Okay. I love that.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then it came out and then people were not happy with it because for the most part it was like, you know, getting a little chunky around the corners of the mouth.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sticky and stringy.

[Oscar Gracie]

That. Because that is a crazy claim. Because everyone's body is so different.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. And also like that of product in general. Like it's hard to not have that happen, you know, like.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Just because of what it is. Like it's a gloss. Like glosses are just thicker, they are stickier. So even like a big company like Mac, like even theirs is going to be kind of sticky, right?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. That might always get crusty. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's just like how it's. The product is formulated no matter what.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So then when it came out, everyone was really upset and obviously there's layers of like. Like it's Michaela. So it's an influencer line. It's an influencer like Michaela, who? Everyone. Like, you know, it's just like a hot rod for people wanting to comment on things. So I think people were ready to tear apart regardless. But yeah, she was getting. She was getting a lot of backlash cuz people were trying it and it was like, like really sticky and stringy. Some people did like it and some people said, well, if you're putting like a like 10 coats on, then yes, it will get like that. That. But the problem is Michaela was like so adamant and like her like marketing of it. I know sticky and then. And I feel like people are doing too much. But then she deleted the tick tocks where she posted that you can put as much as you want and it would never stick.

[Oscar Gracie]

You never deleted TikTok.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. You gotta maybe stand by the point.

[Oscar Gracie]

It always looks bad if you delete and someone always kept it. So you know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Definitely out there. Yeah. 10 million views. Like, you know, it's outfit.

[Oscar Gracie]

Seen this? Oh my gosh. This is toasted marshmallow sticky. Extremely hydrating. You can do a sheer gorgeous wash of color like this. None of that stringy sticky residue. Or the reason it's called amp it is because you can amp this up and get even more pigment.

[Trisha Paytas]

This is easily one of the prettiest.

[Oscar Gracie]

Shades now you have even more color still none of that stringy sticky residue.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do I feel for, because it's like influencer cosmetics. Like, no matter what, like, people are going to be like, very skeptical of. I mean, look at Road Beauty with, like the peptide. Like, everyone was like, oh, it has these little balls in here or whatever. Like, people were really hard on Hailey Bieber and she's like, not even a real influencer. She's like celebrity. So people are just going to be very judgmental regardless.

[Oscar Gracie]

And then if you guarantee something like that, like, you can do all of this.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I'm like, I don't know.

[Oscar Gracie]

We should try it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know.

[Oscar Gracie]

It didn't make me want to try it. I'm gonna buy it. Give me some of that POV beauty.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I know. It really made me want to try it. I was like, how bad could it be?

[Oscar Gracie]

I feel for her. She's always, always getting into it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. No matter what.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. I was gonna say maybe it's on purpose, but maybe not.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And maybe too, I'm like, giving her the benefit of the doubt of like, because there are so many people in the mix. Right. Like, so maybe hers, like, was like a really great formula, but somewhere in the line, like, who knows? Whoever's, like in charge of actually making it, obviously she's not in the labs.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So maybe there was somewhere.

[Oscar Gracie]

Who was in the labs? Was it Jacqueline Hill? She was in that lab. So was Zoella, I think. Wasn't she in the lab for that? Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And she spent years picking each 24 piece of have merch in her advent calendar herself. She was in there.

[Oscar Gracie]

I love when people do a little B roll of in the lab. I was in the lab for something one time. I was in the lab, I was like, let me go in there. I didn't say I formulated it, but it is a good little. A little behind the scenes.

[Trisha Paytas]

It is funny. But that's what I love when people are real about it, though. Like, whenever Trixie Mattel would go to like the Trixie Cosmetics, like, hq, whatever. Like, obviously she, like, is very business savvy, but she'd be like in the packaging and stuff, she's like, I'm never here. You know, like, she would be like, very self aware of, like, you know. Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

Because I think, I think that's what it is with Michaela. Maybe people think she's like, inauthentic when she. When her whole brand was authenticity.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

That'd be like me one day just being like, I formulated my own lipsticks or something. You know what I mean, like. Or if I lost weight. I always think about this. If I lost weight and be like, I just started eating healthy. I just started working out. Like, what do you mean? No, GLP1s are everywhere. Like, I always think about that. Not to accuse anyone of being jelly ones, but it is crazy. I thought about the other day how everyone's so skinny and no one admits to being on GLP1s except for me.

[Trisha Paytas]

I have another sponsorship. So, you know, I'm really about it. Although I'm not even that skinny. I think maybe that's why I'm skinny. Works for me, is that I'm not, like, you know, insanely gaunt. I'm kind of just like. I think I've lost, like, £20 over a year.

[Oscar Gracie]

You look great.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I feel like that's, like, a normal. I don't know. It's not, like, anything crazy for me. So I think. I think I should be the face of Oz. Epic, really. Because, like, I'm on the, like, a different brand of it, but I'm not, like, gonna. I feel like I'm a, you know, approachable. Yeah. Everyone's like, there are people who are on it and say they're on it, but then they're, like, too gaunt. And I feel like that is, like, de.

[Oscar Gracie]

Influence. The face. That face they get. Yeah, but we're sick. But you don't seem to get sick.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I've never gotten sick from it. I've been on it for a long time and never had any side effects.

[Oscar Gracie]

I love it.

[Trisha Paytas]

So they really should be approached. They need to start approaching people who are, like, more, like, you know, use.

[Oscar Gracie]

It for the right reasons. Yeah. Let me lose a little weight.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

Just, you know, as a tool.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I'm still, you know, eating.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Getting enough protein, working out and stuff. You know, like something crazy.

[Oscar Gracie]

Well, they did. They got you. I can't wait to see this.

[Trisha Paytas]

I worse, like, if. Because I'm always like, I don't know. I think I could. That's why I do have a little bit of, like, empathy for, like, influencers, because it is kind of hard to, like, hawk a product and, like, you know, be authentic about it, but you really good at it.

[Oscar Gracie]

Thanks. I have to. I have to really, like. I really have to, like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Like, I actually use it and have experience with it without it. So I feel I can talk about it, but. But it is still kind of hard.

[Oscar Gracie]

I'm not. I'm all for it. I just think more people should be.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, me too. I think people should be honest about it.

[Oscar Gracie]

Especially like celebrities. More so celebrities. It's just like, you have to. Hey, you have to have like a little. Yeah, I mean, I guess they do get hate. Like, as Jaclyn Hill talked about using JLP ones, then got a case.

[Trisha Paytas]

True. You are kind of screwed either way. And then Lizzo actually wrote like a. A substack article about, like, the OIC phenomenon and how that's, like, affected her too. And like, I thought that was really interesting because she was talking about how, like, OIC body is kind of becoming like the new normal.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then when she, like, she's talked about how she started losing weight in like 2023 and how, like, she was like, depressed and like, her career is basically being about, like, when she was here, she kind of talked about it too. Like, you know, she, like, her weight was overshadowing her music.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then she wanted, like, turn her life around. And instead of, like, coping with, like, stress eating or binge eating, like, she would, you know, cop with, like, working out and therapy and, like, just finding healthier reasons. But then people still being, like, critical of her. So it's like the, you know, Oroboros, like the snake eating its tail.

[Oscar Gracie]

Like, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wave and you're big. People are mean to you that you lose weight. Then people are mean to you. If you gain weight, people are mean to you again.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, that is true. I guess, like, Meghan Trainor too has talked about that. How people were commenting on saying that she didn't look good with her weight loss. You are kind of damned if you do, damned if you don't. But I guess just do whatever you want. I don't know. I mean, it sounds like it's your body.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Just be honest.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, just be honest. But shout out to everyone losing weight.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Everyone gaining weight. Yeah, shout out to everyone.

[Oscar Gracie]

Just our motivational talk. Why are you smiling?

[Moses]

Oh, no. I was just shouting out there. Vecna.

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Oscar Gracie]

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[Trisha Paytas]

You're a child, so actually screw you.

[Moses]

Yeah, you should start today.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh my God. We start body shaming. I guess that's okay to do, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Is it okay to body kidnapping?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And like, yeah, kids, then screw you.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, right.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think we can body John William Gacy.

[Oscar Gracie]

You fat that just start being so mean to people. Yeah, all right, fair enough. I love seeing you smile over there. I was like, oh, you were smiling. So I was like, what were you smiling at?

[Moses]

Just a funny one.

[Oscar Gracie]

Okay. I loved it. I know you had a long night. It was a long night. Our kids did not sleep last night. So that's why I was like, I was a long night.

[Trisha Paytas]

How they jet lag. Like I don't even know how as a kid how you'd process. Like it's a combination.

[Moses]

Cuz they're three hours ahead. So let's say they usually wake up between 6 and 7am now it's like between 4 and 5am and we're all.

[Oscar Gracie]

In the same room. So everyone's just up together. Everyone just like wakes each other up and I'm just like, oh my gosh. I actually was out last night. I think I was like took some medicine. Some like home medicine. I think I was just like knocked out.

[Moses]

But no, but ELVIS, like at 2:00am she's like, she's up. She's like baby shark.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like she's ready to.

[Oscar Gracie]

It was, it was a rough one. We'll make it through go.

[Moses]

It's fine. It's normal.

[Oscar Gracie]

Okay. It was a lot. Yeah, it was a lot last night. We have a big show today with. Big show today. Tomorrow's a big day and Tuesday's a big day. Every day is a big day this week. We're doing Hot Topics Wednesday. Is that on the schedule?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

They got our Patreon videos up. Oh my gosh. Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, there was a little Dancing with the Stars drama I thought was funny.

[Oscar Gracie]

I love dancing stars drama there.

[Trisha Paytas]

So congratulations, Robert Irwin. I feel like everyone kind of knew it was gonna win, right?

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, I think as soon as it was announced, like.

[Trisha Paytas]

And he was announced so early, like he was the big Reveal. I'm like, oh, oh, he's taking it, right? Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

I mean, who could compare? Yeah, nobody.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I mean, everyone was really good. I mean, me not watching the show, but again, seeing via clips.

[Oscar Gracie]

I thought you had to watch the show to edit.

[Trisha Paytas]

I. I would see the cl. Like, I would fast forward and just watch their dance and then do their interviews. Yeah, I was, I don't know, but everyone, from what I could tell, was a really good dancer. And that's what everyone was saying. Right? Like, this was a good season.

[Oscar Gracie]

No, I remember the beginning of the season. I. I was like, who are these people? But then I was like, honestly, like, they all ate. They were so good and like, more relevant than I'll ever be. Whitney gets like 10 million views a tick tock. She gets like so many views. Because I went to go look and I was like, I mean, I've always been a Whitney stand, but I'm just saying there's been like Whitney haters out there. And I went to look, I was like, she does get like 7 million views a tick tock.

[Trisha Paytas]

And the, like, that show is so. The super lives is so big. Like, Jennifer Lawrence loves. Like, everyone watches it.

[Oscar Gracie]

Have you even got into it?

[Trisha Paytas]

I. Again, it's one of those shows where like, like, I feel like I know.

[Oscar Gracie]

You know, I feel like I don't know at all. I feel like I haven't seen clips of it anywhere. Like, I feel like I know nothing about this show.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I know there's stuff with the strippers and then there's, you know, the body cam footage. The gay husband. Yeah. So I feel like I see the headlines. I think it's also from my work. Like we interview them a lot. So I think I, like, I know I kind of keep up with them.

[Oscar Gracie]

When they said Jen Affleck, I literally was like, no idea. Literally thought it was like Ben Affleck's like, cousin or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that was the whole joke. Yeah, they do a Super Bowl, a Dunkin Donuts commercial.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, right, right. But love it.

[Trisha Paytas]

There was some drama recently because Whitney Carson, who. She was Robert Irwin's partner. There was a now deleted, like, Instagram post. And like, in it there was. It was like a carousel kind of thing. And then there was like a screenshot of like text messages. I forget who it was with. I think it was with. Oh, it was with her, Whitney and her husband Carson. They were, um, texting back and forth and Carson, her husband text her. The day Zac Efron was in the, in the ballroom and was like, oh, Zac Efron's here. And Whitney replied in the text, I know they really want votes.

[Oscar Gracie]

When he said that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Whitney Carson said that. Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

Okay. And then period.

[Trisha Paytas]

Which is. I mean, tea.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then. But then people were like, oh, my God, how could she be so.

[Moses]

She.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, people are mad at Whitney.

[Oscar Gracie]

Whitney Carson.

[Trisha Paytas]

Carson is Whitney's husband.

[Oscar Gracie]

What's Whitney's last name?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. Whitney Carson with her. And her husband's name is Carson McAllister. That's kind of confusing.

[Oscar Gracie]

Okay, okay. Because there's Woody Levitt. That was the contestant. This is winning. Carson the pro.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Oscar Gracie]

And her husband's name is Carson McAllister.

[Trisha Paytas]

People reached out for a statement from Carson and Whitney Carson, and they didn't give one. But I feel like maybe he thought it was funny.

[Oscar Gracie]

So it was like a screenshot of a text conversation, but.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right. And then Reddit got it, and it started getting popular on Reddit, but I.

[Oscar Gracie]

Don'T think it's that bad. So he said. Said, Zac Efron's here. They're trying to get votes.

[Trisha Paytas]

And no. And Whitney's like, I know they're trying to get votes. So it wasn't.

[Oscar Gracie]

That sounds shady.

[Moses]

It's not bad because, I mean, as it is, we always talked about, when is he gonna show up.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

And we said, oh, it makes sense. He'll show up to the finale.

[Oscar Gracie]

If anything, that's shady. We should leak our taxes.

[Moses]

But, yeah, I know this.

[Oscar Gracie]

This is like the way we text. Sometimes I think about that, like, what if someone is, like, hacker? It's nothing crazy, but, you know, why can't you be shady with your husband?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

Be like, yeah, like, he needs those votes.

[Trisha Paytas]

And it's so real, too, because it's like, Zach, everyone had no idea where he was. He was like, I love the clips where it was like a it score, 29. And he looked over to his parents. Is that a good score? I'm like, I love it. I think that is so funny. No idea where he is, what the show is like, finally he's not on vacation so he can show up, you know?

[Oscar Gracie]

But you know what? Thank God he finally did, because I do love Dylan. Effort not to be Dylan Efron hater or anything. That. But it's just like. I mean, that is what people I know want to see.

[Trisha Paytas]

And they want to see Dylan Efron's abs. They want to see Zac Efron.

[Oscar Gracie]

I want to see Zac Efron way more than I want to see his abs. I'm like, Let me see that. Okay, I'll tune into that. And like, you know what? I've said this once, and I'll say this again. It's like, the guys, they really get far on this show, right? But they don't. Donny Osmond has said this too. Donnie and Marie, I've seen them both in show. They both been on Dancing with Stars. Donny Osmond won. Marie got second place. Emery made a very good point. The women have to do so much twisting, turning, flip, everything like that. The men, they just hold. And Marie did this joke on stage, and she's right. You just hold. And the one that everyone loved with Dylan and his partner. I forgot her. Her name, but the one where she's, like, fishing down like this with her legs. You remember that one? It's like, she's doing all the work.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, she's really great.

[Oscar Gracie]

She's holding herself. She's doing all of it, like, and not to say that's like, whatever. It's not their fault that, like, men just do less in partnering and ballroom dancing. But the judges should judge.

[Trisha Paytas]

I agree.

[Oscar Gracie]

The difficulty level, like, seeing what Whitney's doing and stuff, and those turns in Alex Earl, based on what, like, the celebrity men have to do, it's. It's way less. And Robert was very good. I mean, he was doing some jumps and flips too, which were amazing. But. But I think they don't judge quite fairly because while Dylan Efron was great, I mean, having all. I think all tens at one point.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I was like, the Flavor Flav.

[Oscar Gracie]

Episode, that was crazy. Why was he a judge?

[Trisha Paytas]

I was wondering that too. I was like, but kudos.

[Oscar Gracie]

No, absolutely. We need Max and Takoski back where he would, like, call the judges, be like, I'm not listening to anything that person's saying. When Abby Lee gave him a score, he's like, I don't care about that woman. I loved it so much. We need that back. But it was. It was so random. Like, me hosting Dancing with the Stars. I'm like, I would give you a seven. Like, what? Like, how are you judging any of this? It's so weird. I'm here for the drama. The text message wasn't that bad.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. I think maybe, like, Whitney is so, like, you know, so to see anything, like, remotely shady. But I'm like, again, I think, come on, like, let's not be like little cupcakes. That is not that bad. And obviously he didn't want the votes. Like, hello?

[Oscar Gracie]

Like, that's what the show is everyone's.

[Trisha Paytas]

Here trying to, you know, get milk there. Like, who was it? The. What's her name? The. Alaria Baldwin with Kris Jenner in the.

[Oscar Gracie]

Like, you know, was that this season?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Oscar Gracie]

I forgot about her. Oh my God. That's so crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Like, come on. That's the point, you know, so like you want to, you know, use what you got.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. That is the whole point.

[Trisha Paytas]

Robert with Bindy every like, you know, like, come on. That's kind of the point.

[Oscar Gracie]

That's a good point too.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think it is different getting Zac Efron because he is like an a list actor.

[Oscar Gracie]

I'd vote for that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

I'd be like, all right, we're voting for the brother. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Can't let Zac Efron down.

[Oscar Gracie]

He has a good one. Well, congrats to Robert.

[Trisha Paytas]

And another dancing. Another dancing. We've speed rounding these hot topics. Another dancing hot topic. Jojo Siwa. Kudos to Jojo Siwalk because she was hospitalized hours before her Black Friday performance at the mall of America. Did you know? Did you see her performance?

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, I love, I love a mall performance.

[Trisha Paytas]

Me too. And shout out all of America because they, they follow me. They DM me a lot. They love us. So shout out. They are.

[Oscar Gracie]

Wait, that's so random.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. They're like, did you message them? They followed me and then they DM me and then now I'm on their press release list.

[Moses]

I saw my followers. I was like, wow, what on their mother of America is following me too.

[Oscar Gracie]

They're following YouTube.

[Trisha Paytas]

They, they're watchers.

[Oscar Gracie]

Wow. Maybe we should do a live show there.

[Trisha Paytas]

America. We'd love to come. Okay. Yeah, I love them all. Especially a big mall.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's amazing.

[Oscar Gracie]

It's the biggest.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So Jojo had a big Black Friday performance there and yeah, she was hospitalized right before it. And this is the life of a showgirl like you again, you and Jojo very similar, but she was having really bad stomach pain, like excruciating stomach pain. And, and originally she was. Didn't know if it was like her period or like a period cramps or something. And then when she finally like she was like incapacitive from this pain the day of her Black Friday performance and when she went to the hospital it found out like she had a, a cyst on her ovaries that was making her bleed.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

And she still performed for her Black Friday and she was. I didn't see. She did a tick tock like explaining her injury. But I saw her performance at mall of America first. And it was. Was like full, like JoJo experience. Like, you know, the hard, like, dance. Like, you know when she kind of stomps and she dances.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So she was giving 150.

[Oscar Gracie]

Damn hard worker. Her and Chris broke up or is that a rumor?

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't think.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oh, I saw someone say that they broke up with. Said he was single, but not official.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not official. Nothing I've seen. I feel like I would have seen. I'm on the JoJo beat for some reason.

[Oscar Gracie]

I need to get back on it. Was she in, like. Did she have like, Christmas themed pants on sequence?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Oscar Gracie]

I did see a performance of that where I thought, oh, she looked pretty good.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, she was really giving. I'm like, when I found out, she was like. And then seeing. Hearing what it is too. It's not like, you know, the de. It's like literally like, you know.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. Oh, my gosh.

[Trisha Paytas]

But yeah, she was. And she did end up being discharged and was, I guess could perform through it, but still, that's.

[Oscar Gracie]

No, that's so hard. Especially when you, like, if you like dehydrated and stuff like that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. So life of showgirl.

[Oscar Gracie]

Shout out Jo Siwa. You're just everywhere. And I love that for you. I would love her to write a book. Did you write a book? She should write more.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

Wonder how that would be. Maybe in like 10 years. I would love to see.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe we need a little bit more. Yeah. Separation from this era before she. She can, you know, I process.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. I need to see more memoirs from dance girls.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Nia's is really good.

[Oscar Gracie]

So good. So good. So many more questions, but confirmed everything I thought. And more and more I was like, what the hell?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, you were. Again, this is a. You end up write about Abby Lee Miller and write about Ethan Slater. So you're on a. You're on a roll so far.

[Oscar Gracie]

Who else am I? Who else did I talk about that? People?

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, I guess. Yeah. I mean, looking back, like, you know, like a David moment and stuff. Like. So, yeah, you kind of ended up being.

[Oscar Gracie]

Thank you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

Sometimes I'm right. Two plot ticks. Wait, what is it? When a clock is broken.

[Moses]

But I.

[Oscar Gracie]

Always forget this one.

[Trisha Paytas]

Now I'm messing it up. A broken clock is right twice a day.

[Moses]

Okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

Clock ticks.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

Why do they say that so many times in Wicked?

[Trisha Paytas]

The first few times, I'm like, this is. Then it kind of became like, oh, are we just trying to make it a thing? It kind of. It started rubbing like it wasn't Good for me. Like, the after. Like, the first three times. First three times, like, that's cute. But then it was, like, a little much. No, same, like, you know, like when Glinda says, like, obsessulated, I think she says it twice. It's cute both times.

[Oscar Gracie]

I love Obsessulated.

[Trisha Paytas]

But if it's, like. If it was used, like, 20 times, then it would be like, yeah, grading a little bit.

[Oscar Gracie]

Trying to make it happen.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

That's my only critique of For Good. Otherwise, I loved all of it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I noticed. But Darian was really distracted by Jonathan Bailey's blue contacts, and that was his big takeaway. He loved Wicked For Good, but his gripe was Jonathan Bailey's contacts. Everything else. He gave a rave review.

[Oscar Gracie]

Damn, that's pretty harsh. Harsh critic there. I mean, he is the winky prince who has blue eyes, so he can't. That's the.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's the character itself. Okay, then that's not his fault.

[Oscar Gracie]

He looked great. Jonathan Bailey. Bailey is so cute.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. He is charming. What a charming man.

[Oscar Gracie]

I know. I wonder if he's like that in real life.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think he is, because then right after the Wicked premiere, he went to the gay club, the gay bar, and was like, which one? I think I forget which one. It was one in New York, and he took a photo with the bartenders.

[Oscar Gracie]

He was taking photos with everyone. That's the only reason I went to go get my selfie is because. Because, like, even though it was publicist, like, we gotta get him in here now. And so I was like, okay, I'm not gonna be the Whatever. But he kept talking to people along the way and taking pictures. So I'm like, okay, I'm gonna try to, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

There was only, like, literally, like, 20 people left on the carpet. So I was like, okay, my shot is now. And my producer was very like, go, go. And I was like, okay. He encouraged me. That's what. If you were on the red carpet, you'd be encouraging too. He'd be like, go get it. I was like, all right. Otherwise, I'd probably be too scared. But I was like, can I go? He's like, yeah, yeah. Love Jonathan Bailey. Maybe he'll come on. Maybe.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

Him and Cynthia are doing a show on the West End, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, are they?

[Oscar Gracie]

I don't know if it's confirmed, but I heard it was like, Sunday in the park with George. Oh, you know that painting?

[Trisha Paytas]

No.

[Oscar Gracie]

You don't have a famous painting.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's about that guy. But you don't know Michaela's lip gloss. So we're. We're both learning.

[Oscar Gracie]

We are educating each other every day. It's as if we're from, like, three different generations. It's like, I'm a Boomer. You're Gen X, Gen Z. What is the new one? Gen Alpha, gen beta.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're a gen beta.1. That's Aquaman.

[Oscar Gracie]

That's Aquaman.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, work.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah. What's above Boomer? Nobody.

[Moses]

They're just not around anymore.

[Oscar Gracie]

They're just dead. That's sad.

[Moses]

People that lived through the depression, not good.

[Oscar Gracie]

Okay. When they were touring the cemetery on the Kardashians, it was right here. Here by the target. Oh, Kylie even says, what are we gonna be buried next to a Costco? I'm like, I know where that Costco is.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was like, oh, I didn't realize it. Right here.

[Oscar Gracie]

Saw the four Seasons in the background.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, work. Are you watching the Kardashians?

[Oscar Gracie]

I am, but I'd say it like that.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's Rob.

[Oscar Gracie]

I mean, it's rough.

[Trisha Paytas]

Chloe is doing her damnedest to carry that show. Chloe are putting in the work. And honestly. Shout out honorary shout out to Kendall Jenner. My apologies. I have been very harsh. But you know what? She has tickled me a few times on the show. And at least she should shows up to work, you know, like, yeah, the other. I mean, poor Kylie. I feel like she just doesn't want to do it. She's been on it for, like, maybe 45 seconds and eight episodes. And Courtney is miserable the whole time.

[Oscar Gracie]

I know. I like. Like, I like Courtney, but this. This is a rough one.

[Trisha Paytas]

Cracks me up. And Jennifer, my sister Jennifer Lawrence clocked it too. She got asked in the lie detector test who her least favorite is, and she said Courtney. Because every time Courtney, like, how has something going on, she has to announce it. Like, if she doesn't want to wear heels anymore.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

She has to sit everyone down to be like, you guys. I've decided I'm not wearing heels or corsets anymore.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And the Chloe and Kim are like.

[Oscar Gracie]

Okay, no, I don't like that part. I'm hoping she's, like, leading into this character of that I'm just being, like, miserable because I do like her. But this season is. Is rough, and she just doesn't want to be there. And it's like, why then why are we here? Kind of thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

But Chris, Chloe and Kim and honorary shadow Kendall are really. They're keeping that show alive.

[Oscar Gracie]

I want to say honorary shout out to, like, they really were using Rob and Caitlyn a lot, too. And they were. They were trying. They're like, well, I guess we'll come back for something. Like, they kept teasing that Caitlyn clip, squeezing that clickbait.

[Moses]

Oh, my God, she's buying the house. But then the immediate sentence after, that's joking.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know.

[Oscar Gracie]

I was like, well, she tried it. Although she was. I don't know what. Anyways, they had her on the show. I was like, not letting my house burn down. Okay, Caitlin. Like, I don't know if anyone's letting that happen.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, but Caitlyn, come on, we gotta. Let's just not give Caitlyn a platform. That's what I'm saying. Come on.

[Oscar Gracie]

And Kendall's like, well, I don't agree, but she is my dad. And I was like, let's not put that on. That was a crazy. Anyways.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that was missing again. Really Random tangent. My one criticism, Montana. We can give up the impulsive. I think. I think Logan Paul is just, like, too far gone. He's so, like, outwardly transphobic and everything else phobic. But I get it. They have so much history and he's been there a lot for, like, sister. Let's just.

[Oscar Gracie]

I think in general, I was thinking about that, too. Is just like, I think. Who's talking about someone like jk. Oh. Because Harry Potter's on Broadway now. So we're talking about people we know that are in the Broadway show of Harry Potter. And it's like, I think when someone just, like, shows you, they're like, they're transphobic and they're not changing, and they're outwardly still, like, being transformed. Experience. Like, you just have to, like, you just have to, like, some people need a paycheck, of course. But it's like, I think there is like, a time where you're just like. Or someone you know really well. If somebody knew really well, just started being like, gay people should die, I'd probably be like, me too. And it's happened. I actually know someone pretty close to not close to me, but someone I've known for a very long time. And someone, like, informed me. They're like, oh, yeah, they're liking this homophobic stuff and everything. And I was just like, oh. I, like, really take a step back. And I was like, yeah, that's like, not. Not okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar Gracie]

I don't know. I think. Think. Yeah. I don't know. Can't speak on that. But yeah, I guess it's like, for me, personally, I probably Would same.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I mean I have family members who like even if like you're really promoting something and then like there's cognitive dissonance to not see how it doesn't affect. Like it doesn't affect you and you think it doesn't affect me just cuz I live in California or something. But I'm still like a gay Latino person. Obviously affect me. I'm like, okay, well then I don't want a relationship with you. So if I'm doing it to my family, I'm sure as hell doing it to Logan.

[Oscar Gracie]

Paul. No, I. I'm actually with you too. Yeah. There's people in my family to like, like family that you're like, are you okay?

[Trisha Paytas]

Like so that we can leave that in 2025. The impulsive podcast appearances. But other I loved her NY Press store and you and her go to the shop. I'm like, this is so cute.

[Oscar Gracie]

No, she's. She's everything. I think she. Yeah, she just like you know, friends with someone and she wants to. She's very loyal. Loyal to a fault. I'm like the opposite. I'll cut people off. I'll cut people off for less. For sure. I like, oh, okay. That.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, absolutely not.

[Oscar Gracie]

But yeah, she. I get it. I guess I was like that with Shane for a while. I was like, I really was riding hard for him. I was like, no, it's not that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Because I think if you know a version of a person, it's like. Yeah, it's hard to take into consideration the other faults.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, he just has a healthy relationship with his cat. Everyone leave it alone. You know what I mean? Like, gotta wrap it up there.

[Trisha Paytas]

At least. We went to 90s minutes without mentioning him. That's pretty good. Okay.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yeah, we just cut the last 60 seconds. We didn't mention him at all. You guys, I love you. Thank you for being here. Thank you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oscar.

[Oscar Gracie]

Oscar is back. Everyone missed you so much.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm so happy to be here. I'm so happy to see you in front of. In good lighting and a pink and white checkered background. This is the best. Great.

[Oscar Gracie]

Wow. Bless you. That was crazy. True. That means it's true because you sneezed. Love that. No, it's true. I miss this lighting. I miss this background. Next time we're going to call Andrew. Yeah, call him.

[Trisha Paytas]

He'll set design.

[Oscar Gracie]

Yes. Actually wonder where he is In New York. Keep that set because we'll be back there soon. We love you guys. Thanks for being here. Mr. Laugh. Miss. You do look chiseled that jawline.

[Trisha Paytas]

Now I know why.

[Oscar Gracie]

The food poisoning and your sponsorship coming up. There we go. Love all of it. Moses, thank you for being here. I hope we stay awake for the show tonight.

[Moses]

Oh, we will. It's just a normal Sunday for us.

[Oscar Gracie]

Are you ready to tap dance? Moses is my surprise performer, but it's not. You'll know by now. But he's a surprise performer tonight, and I'm very excited for it, so. All right, you guys, we'll see you real soon. Love you.