Did Rosanna Pansino Go TOO FAR & Corinna Kopf COPIES Trisha?!

Summary

Summary of "Just Trish" Podcast Episode: Did Rosanna Pansino Go TOO Far & Corinna Kopf COPIES Trisha?!

Release Date: October 29, 2024

In this dynamic episode of "Just Trish," host Trisha Paytas and co-host Oscar Gracey navigate through a blend of personal anecdotes, festive Halloween preparations, and serious discussions about influencer controversies. The conversation seamlessly transitions from light-hearted topics to addressing significant issues within the influencer community.

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1. Opening Banter and Halloween Excitement (00:00 - 05:00)

The episode kicks off with Trisha and Oscar exchanging playful stories, including a humorous incident involving dog biscuits. They set the stage for an engaging Halloween-themed discussion, expressing their excitement for upcoming events and cosplays.

Notable Quote:

• Trisha: "Her name is Trish. She's got the mission. All the gossips. Filthy rich." (00:37)

2. Patreon Promotions and Community Engagement (05:01 - 10:00)

Trisha highlights the perks of their Patreon community, offering listeners exclusive content such as extended podcast episodes and behind-the-scenes access. She introduces their editor, Jimmy, and teases upcoming projects like the Halloween Hunger Games.

Notable Quote:

• Trisha: "Before we get into it, there's a lot happening here today in good ways. I'm happy. I am happy. I feel cute." (03:04)

3. Wicked Cosplays and Modeling Shoots (10:01 - 20:00)

The hosts delve into their Wicked-themed cosplays, discussing the intricate details and the dedication of their costume designer, Michael Philpot. Trisha shares heartfelt appreciation for Michael’s support, highlighting their strong collaborative relationship.

Notable Quote:

• Trisha: "He literally sewed everything himself. He did thousands of costumes for me." (10:06)

4. Red Carpet Interview with Olivia Rodrigo (20:01 - 35:00)

Oscar recounts his experience interviewing Olivia Rodrigo at her Netflix movie premiere. He describes the professionalism of the event and a memorable moment where Olivia acknowledged him, leading to viral moments on social media. Trisha expresses pride and excitement over the positive reception of the interview.

Notable Quote:

• Oscar: "It was like RuPaul's Drag Race Untucked vibes. I can't describe how it changed my life." (35:00)

5. Rosanna Pansino and Mr. Beast Allegations (35:01 - 60:00)

The conversation shifts to a serious tone as Trisha and Oscar discuss allegations against Rosanna Pansino and Mr. Beast (Jimmy Donaldson). They explore Rosanna’s report to the FBI regarding inappropriate behavior within Mr. Beast’s group chats, emphasizing the need for accountability among influencers and the protection of minors.

Notable Quote:

• Trisha: "It's a good thing she did report it to the FBI because it's crazy that that stuff is out there." (74:51)

6. Influencer Ethics and Online Behavior (60:01 - 80:00)

Trisha and Oscar analyze broader issues related to influencer conduct, comparing personalities like James Charles and Logan Paul. They debate the responsibilities of influencers in maintaining ethical standards and the impact of their actions on their audiences, highlighting the double standards often faced by women in the industry.

Notable Quote:

• Trisha: "Why are you writing that? Right? Pee. Poo poo, yes." (88:16)

7. Timothy Chalamet Lookalike Contest (80:01 - 95:00)

The hosts discuss a viral Timothy Chalamet lookalike contest in New York, detailing its popularity and the subsequent police intervention due to overcrowding. They reflect on the nature of cosplay and fan events, sharing humorous and insightful observations about fan engagement.

Notable Quote:

• Oscar: "We love even the street. Like you see the wide view of the street and it's like, you can't miss." (27:13)

8. Other Influencer Discussions and Reflections (95:01 - 110:00)

Trisha and Oscar delve into discussions about other influencers, including James Charles and Logan Paul. They compare different public personas and handling of controversies, expressing empathy for certain influencers while criticizing others' actions and public relations strategies.

Notable Quote:

• Trisha: "People are so double standard of men. It's actually insane. It's actually crazy." (47:28)

9. Final Thoughts and Birthday Celebrations (110:01 - End)

In the concluding segment, Trisha and Oscar reflect on the episode's discussions, emphasizing the importance of supporting accountable influencers and avoiding those who engage in harmful behaviors. They also touch upon personal milestones, including Moses's upcoming birthday and Trisha's plans, reinforcing their commitment to their community.

Notable Quote:

• Trisha: "We are Patreons' golden child, and I love Patreon so much." (07:06)

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Conclusion

This episode of "Just Trish" offers a comprehensive blend of personal storytelling, festive Halloween preparations, and critical examinations of influencer ethics. Trisha and Oscar provide listeners with both entertaining content and thoughtful commentary on pressing issues within the social media landscape, maintaining their signature unfiltered and honest approach.

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Transcript

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I want to know. I want to know about that era. I'm just so curious what he remembers, like, why I actually would be interested.

[Moses Hackman]

To get, like, his perspective on, like, me eating the dog biscuits at his house. You know what I mean? Like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, by choice.

[Moses Hackman]

Yes. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

You wanted to. You like to eat them?

[Moses Hackman]

Well, that's all he had at his house.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, okay. She's not rude to anyone else.

[Moses Hackman]

You know what I mean? This is, like, it's diva behavior in the best way. And divas are an endangered species. So literally. And I am a diva conservationalist. My causes right now are save the whales. Save the divas are like, my two platforms.

[Trisha Paytas]

Her name is Trish. She's got the mission. All the gossips. Filthy rich.

[Moses Hackman]

Yay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Hi, guys. Welcome back to Gestures. I was gonna sing it, and then I got nervous. Huh. Maybe I should try. I was like, wait, I feel insecure all of a sudden. I've been singing all morning, guys. It's gonna be a great episode of Just Trish. Cause I feel so cute today. This is the cutest I've ever felt. Welcome back to the Just Trish podcast. Come on, follow me. You'll be happy to be here. Take it away, Oscar.

[Moses Hackman]

And you're gonna get the tea.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, take it away, Moses.

[Oscar]

I'm taking it and running away.

[Trisha Paytas]

You just sang the song in my TikTok. How do you not know it?

[Oscar]

Cause we just lip sync it, babe. What was it? Bows. Bows and bows.

[Trisha Paytas]

What? You don't remember the big thing that you just did? That whole big line at the end where you're dancing?

[Oscar]

No, it's so focusing on dancing.

[Trisha Paytas]

You don't know the line, the name of the song.

[Oscar]

V and bows.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, wait, if I sing it, then finish it, because we just did it literally, like, 20 minutes ago. Woes are fleeting, bows are glancing when you're dancing away. He literally did the big note and everything. When you see this, tick tock. He just did it 5,000 times. And he was doing the Jonathan Bailey dance with Gwen. You're dancing.

[Oscar]

Exactly. I was into this.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what you were doing. How do you not. What were you singing at that point? You're just opening your mouth. You're just like.

[Oscar]

It's one of those things where you don't retain it. Like, I immediately forget it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Can't relate, but okay. I love my husband. Everyone's like, oh, my gosh, I'm just so mean to Moses. I just was like, I'm just kind of shook because he's like, so Good at memorizing and knowing everything. And I'm like, he did just learn it.

[Oscar]

That's what I'm good at memorizing. I memorize it at the moment. Forget it completely. I'm fresh for the next one.

[Trisha Paytas]

My apologies to every wicked fan out there that we just butchered it. I don't. I. Let's get into it. But let's. Before we get into it, there's a lot happening here today in good ways. I'm happy. I am happy. I feel cute. It's good. Special guest. Possible special guest. Today we might have a special. Oh, I'm waiting for you to announce a special guest. Oscar secured us the guest. Oh, my God. Shout out to our sponsor.

[Oscar]

We have a mystery box.

[Trisha Paytas]

Huh?

[Oscar]

We have a mystery box.

[Trisha Paytas]

We do, yeah. Oh, well, let's say that too. There's so many choices.

[Oscar]

There's a mystery box, the safety box.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's a trick or treat. We don't know. Yeah, we don't know if it's a trick or a treat. But before.

[Moses Hackman]

Oh, wait, no, go on, go on.

[Trisha Paytas]

So there's special surprises all over today. It's very exciting. I don't even know some of them. They might not even happen. As we know, special guests come and go and most of the time they don't come. Yeah, they go. They stay away. Thank you to the sponsor, Ro. We love Rogo. To Ro Trish, to see if you qualify for a free trial. See a glp. Ones are right for you. Go to Rocco. Trish. Very fitting because I think we always have ones on this show. So go see if it's right for you. Rodeco, Slash. And also our patreon. Patreon.com. oh my gosh. Okay, you guys, our bonus video this week. You always get an extended podcast for the five dollar tier. Every week you get a bonus hour long podcast. We do it right after this. It doesn't air anywhere else. If you upgrade to the two bonus videos a week, you'll get to see. This week we interviewed our editor, Jimmy, and people like, okay, my Twitter. I literally send him screenshots of people like, wait, I forgot what they said. Like, Til Jimmy. What's Til?

[Moses Hackman]

That's a good question. What?

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. People are like, oh, this Jimmy's your editor. Like he's kind of like low key, famous, like people. He has like followers and stuff, which I like.

[Moses Hackman]

Oh, today I learned. Okay, T. Okay, today we learned.

[Trisha Paytas]

I thought it was like till Jimmy. I was like his like gamer name or something. I was like, oh. But people like, literally like kind of gagged for Jimmy and I like, didn't know. I even text him. I was like, oh my God. Like, I like what? Like, I didn't know. Like, I knew he game.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah. But I thought it was like my biggest following.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was like, why is he editing for us? That's so. I mean, thank you. But also like, what? That's so crazy. I felt I was going to feel bad. It's kind of like, you know, when Ricky Dillon was editing people's videos, I was like, but you're a talent. You know what I mean? Like, I guess it's good. They're, they're humble. They do both. You know what I mean? So Jimmy, we did it like an hour long mukbang interview. He literally is like the best talker ever. You're also going to see him here Wednesday when we do our big Halloween Hunger Games. So he'll be here as. But if you want to get a sneak peek and also a long interview, it's like there. And it's not like a full interview, but it's like, it's fun. It's a chat. You get to know him. It was great and it had really good feedback. So go check it out for editor Jimmy. And then also, I don't have the headshots yet, but it's going to be the Elphaba Green headshot this month and you're going to get a Glinda Trish emoji sticker. So those are coming or inspired by. I shouldn't say they're Alphabonga. I am a green witch and a good witch.

[Moses Hackman]

You know, wizard of Oz is like in the public. Yeah. So yeah, okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

At least I'm Elphaba and Glinda. You're gonna get that as your duo. And then also if you're in the producer chair, you get the notebook and the pen sent to you in lieu of the handwritten cards. Cause I gotta stock these up for in a couple months. So you're gonna get two items. There's I love you with Moses handwriting and the pen. Very, very cool indeed. And yes, love it. And if you're listening to this, there is a bonus tier. Okay, so now there's like a Trish music tier where you're gonna get I leaked my pink Christmas song. There's a lyric video out there. Go check it out. So in the music tier I'm gonna post every week, I'm doing rehearsals, we're doing auditions for dancers rehearsals. I'm gonna like leak, like pretty Much like the songs that I'm gonna do at the concert. I mean, it's not gonna be the full concert, but you'll see, like, little things that we're doing and rehearsing. You'll get, like, a set list early. And right now you can go listen to my song Pink Christmas on the music tier. We love you, Patreon, and Patreon loves us. Did the thing happen yet or no?

[Oscar]

We could give him a hint. If you're in New York.

[Trisha Paytas]

If you're in New York, you might see something in the sky today for the next month.

[Oscar]

Look around.

[Trisha Paytas]

Look around and see. I mean, it will be iconic, but I don't know.

[Moses Hackman]

Look at the Empire State Building.

[Trisha Paytas]

There I am right there performing. Yes. It has to do with Patreon and has to do with New York. So we're kind of like, I feel like Patreon's favorite child. I feel they really love us. I don't know why.

[Oscar]

Because we love them.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, we do love them. Like, truly. Patriot is priority always for us. Like, I always. We do special days. Like, it's a priority. It's what we spend the most time on. Like, love it, love it, love it. And it's really, really fun. And I love. Everyone's very respectful there. They keep stuff behind the paywall. Tana was just here yesterday, and she goes, do you have a hard time, like, keeping stuff behind me? While I was like, actually, no. Our people, they keep it locked for us. We also don't have as many as them. So she's like, I really think people just, like, haters just, like, subscribe to, like, leaker stuff. I'm like, that is a problem to have for sure.

[Moses Hackman]

Can't relate, but we feel for you.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. I was like, oh, I know. It's great. You guys are great. You guys keep it under lock and key. It's wonderful. So I just wanted to do another tier and give you guys music. Yeah.

[Oscar]

But also, like, it's not only about being behind a paint wall. It's like, people are supporting new endeavors, like, the music and all that. Like, it's really, you know, it's about really helping people stay creative and do the stuff they love.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Yes. Because my goal is to do music videos again, but obviously I don't want to go broke spending $10 million. So I was like, oh, my God. Maybe if I do, like, a music tier, like, get people the songs early and get them the video, like, maybe. I don't know. Go support if you want. You don't have to. But it's, you know, we love. We do love Patreon. No other platform I've ever been on, I've been on YouTube. Love you YouTube so much. Like, if I. If you want me to be your golden child, I will. But, like, they've never, ever given me any spotlight.

[Oscar]

They prevent it from others giving you.

[Trisha Paytas]

The night I was pitched every season. They're like, absolutely not. But we love YouTube, and I do truly love YouTube, so I'm already ready to step up to the plate. If you need a golden child, I'll be there. But we are. I feel like we're Patreons golden child, and I love Patreon so much, and I really have always loved Patreon. I'm not trying to, like, do a whole ad right here. It's really that. But I, like, they did save me when all the, like, ads went away in 2017 in the ad pocalypse of YouTube. Like, I literally was making, like, like, literally zero dollars at one point. Then I think at some point, it's like a couple thousand. Whatever. And I went to Patreon completely, and it, like, saved me. It was just so great. And now we have such an elevated thing. We have Jimmy, Jimmy over there and Oscar, and we're doing videos, and it's just, like, we're just trying to elevate it, make it more the headshot tear. Tano's here. Like, I really love that. Like, I want to do something like that. Like, you should. It's so fun. So I love it. It's a dream come true. It really is. Anyways, okay. That's so fun. Thank you, Patreon. Patreon.com. just. Sorry, everyone.

[Oscar]

Slash. Jess.

[Trisha Paytas]

Slash. Oh, did I not say a patreon.com?/? Just Trish. Oh, okay. Yes. Oh, my gosh. All right, what else? We are supposed to be wicked today.

[Oscar]

What do you mean by that? Are we done?

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, we slayed. Because, honestly, the movie's not even out yet, and we have the. I think we have the very first cosplays of this scene of the Ozdust Ballroom. You are Fiero from the Ozda Spa room. Not Fiero dancing through life. You're Ozda's ballroom. I am also. As does ballroom Glinda. And I mean, this is crazy. Michael Philpot really did it. I've known Michael Philpot for literally 15 years. I've known him so, so long. Like, people who say I can't keep friends or relationship. Me and Michael were like this. I love him truly more than Anything in the whole world. He has nailed all of Moses's Bridgertons, the Fiero last week. Like, he's nailed all of them. This is like insane because obviously you can't buy fabric. Like, I don't even know what he did, like hand painted it or what. I. It's the most insane thing ever. I like Michael, he actually printed it on the fabric. Can I see Michael pop out too? Also, like, this is. I know this is TMI and you hate when I talk about money. But like, also, he was such a real one. So, like, I was doing costumes for like all my music videos. And then obviously you guys know the story. Like, I spent, you know, a million dollars on music videos and like, oh, I have no money. And then whatever. And he was so sweet. He like literally put me up. He let me do like a payment plan for like two years. Like paying these costumes off.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah, it was literally like, Klarna.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, I love a Klarna. Affirm, not sponsored. Love all of. I did. I used to prefer saatchi on karna or after pay. Yeah, I loved it. I was like, wow, this is so great. I think I'm still paying off a purse. It's like $200 a month. I was like, okay, I did love it. I remember banks would come in when we had no money and Moses would be living. He's like, how are you spending 150amonth? I was like, I paid 150 for it. I'm still paying it. Ten years later, you and your sister.

[Oscar]

Talking like, it's basically free.

[Moses Hackman]

What did we talk about?

[Oscar]

Basically free?

[Trisha Paytas]

What were we saying? I remember saying that she bought something.

[Oscar]

And she put it on a payment plan. Like, but you were like, but you can pay for it. You're like, no, this way it's free.

[Trisha Paytas]

My sister does have money that she can pay for it.

[Moses Hackman]

She loves for it.

[Trisha Paytas]

The economics, the girl math. Yeah, girl math and deep. No, it really is. I still love a good payment plan because it is something nice about getting someone that's $5,000 paying like $100 for like. Yes. Over time you're paying like 20,000 for it.

[Moses Hackman]

But in the moment, in the moment.

[Trisha Paytas]

I used to do. What was that loan? Speedy loans. I see. Speedy loan. And I needed like $10,000. And it was so great because they give you that $10,000 cash right away and like, you basically start paying like, you know, you know what? Like $200 a month back. Like, I kid you not, for life. When we bought this house, I was probably paying eight years into this debt, right? I was probably like, maybe. Maybe five. Let me say, like five years into this $10,000 debt. When we were buying this house, like, oh, you still haven't announced any balance with Speedy Loans. And I was like, what? And Net credit, too. I think I. Both, actually. I was, you know, I was taking out all those loans, and I remember they said I still owed $8,000, but I never paid out for five years. I was like, 98% interest rate. I don't even know what that means. Was something, you know, like, it's. That was the most wild. Don't do those. We're sponsored by Net Credit next week. It's good if you need the money. Like, I needed the money. Okay. I guess if you need the money, like, well, you know, I don't know. Yeah, they really do get you good.

[Oscar]

At keeping up with. She's just forgot. I don't think you knew it existed, like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, well, I just knew it was coming out. I just thought, like, it was no big deal, like, it's gonna be paid off or whatever. But yeah, sometimes those. I think even when I just did a credit check now, I think they said there's something like, you have like $800, like, to decorate. I was like, oh, my God, this net credit is like the death of me. For real. It was. It's wild. So. But anyways, thank you, Michael, for that payment plan. He's so nice. He literally does the sewing everything himself. He sews everything. He did thousands of costumes for me and my. And he was just so nice. And I remember I owed, like, it was. And he's not even that. He's. He gives me the homie discount for sure. But I. He was. It wasn't even like that outrageous. I just, like, couldn't afford it. He was like, literally so nice. And even when we started costumes again, and I was like, I can pay you in full up front and stuff like that, he's like, I'm not worried about it. So then when he did send me an invoice, I paid it right away. He's like, oh, my God, that was so fast. Yes, absolutely. So that was actually so nice because I don't know anyone else who would do that, including me. I would never be like, yeah, just pay me when you can. Like, literally the nicest guy ever. We love Michael Philpot. Who are you from? Wicked. I had a photographer and I was like, moses, go see if he has.

[Moses Hackman]

Like, okay, we're going to do a photo. And I was like, okay, I'll wait here. He's like, no, for you. And I was like, for me? Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was texting Moses. I'm like, okay, does he want to do a photo? Does he not? Like, I'm trying to gauge it. I thought you were going to be the witch in green again. I thought that's where you were going last week. You're like, I'm going to do the witch but in green. I was like, okay, okay.

[Moses Hackman]

I was thinking that too. But I was also like, I kind of have to save that because it's my one semi wicked costume and I have a month to go into the movie.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, but so you're gonna just be the witch by yourself and then we're just here in normal clothing.

[Moses Hackman]

You are 100% have more wicked costumes.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think so. I think so.

[Moses Hackman]

Wait, are you serious?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. The part one is only like, three. Three outfits. I can't do that.

[Moses Hackman]

I assumed all of November was wicked.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think I have one left in me, and it's a sweater from, like, her universe. Like, half pink, half green.

[Moses Hackman]

I just assumed all in November was wicked cosplay, so I can try.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'll look. Well, she also doesn't have much pink. This was the inspo look. Shout out. By the way, my dress was by Eddie's online. Love him. He, like, nails it. He's such a dolly girl. And I, like, love him so much. But. And so this was it. And so. Yeah, I really. Yeah, I probably should have specified. I was, like, always in pink. This might be the first time I'm not in pink, but it's fine.

[Moses Hackman]

It's coral. It's in the. In the spectrum.

[Trisha Paytas]

In the pink. Yeah. Wait, what? In the spectrum?

[Moses Hackman]

Pink spectrum.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that. I've never heard that. When it's called the color, the colors are pink.

[Moses Hackman]

The color spectrum. You never heard the color spectrum?

[Trisha Paytas]

No.

[Moses Hackman]

Okay, wait.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar]

You're on the spectrum.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what I'm saying. I always heard it on the other way, but I've never heard colors being on a spectrum. That's cool. Respect.

[Oscar]

They're part of a spectrum.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. I love it. We love a spectrum. So. Yeah, but, I mean, he didn't nail it. I love it. And he's like, you're like the torso.

[Oscar]

Her torso is your colors.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right, right, right.

[Oscar]

He went with, like, the oranges.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I was feeling. I was loving it and actually didn't know it wasn't pink until Oscar said something. I was kinda like, oh, like, I'm kinda. I'm colorblind. I was kinda like, this looks pink. And I was like, maybe not. So I don't know, it kinda reminds me of like those virgin drinks I get. The little sunset.

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah, it's a mango.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it's like a mango. I love it. It's my favorite scene in the whole movie when she wears this. Love. It's when they go to the Ozdes Ballroom. And if you are in New York, they're doing a premiere and they're turning into the Ozdaz Ballroom. I think we're shiz here in la, but in New York, they're gonna be the Ozdez Ballroom. I saw the two. It was Jinkx, Monsoon and who else?

[Moses Hackman]

Monet X Change.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I think they're gonna go to the premiere because they were talking about going to the Ozdez Ballroom, and I'm like, I bet they're gonna go to the New York.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah, they had a little wicked brain deal. I was like, that's fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

With Ariana and Cynthia, I gagged. I mean, that's like dream come true. Love it. Well, we can get into Ariana, Cynthia, about me too, but let's focus. They also acknowledged me, which is maybe why I'm so happy today. But. Okay, wait, who are you from Wicked?

[Moses Hackman]

Well, I just. My boyfriend had these monkey ears left over, so I just took them and I was like, I'm gonna be the gay Apple store monkey.

[Trisha Paytas]

Which I'm like, what, you've never seen.

[Moses Hackman]

The gay Apple store monkey?

[Trisha Paytas]

Which is crazy. No, he's gay.

[Moses Hackman]

No one really knows. It's just this one photo of this kid and it became kind of like a meme. But he was just standing looking at an iPhone and he had like, his leg popped out kind of sassy, and he just looked kind of like gay.

[Trisha Paytas]

A monkey or a boy is a.

[Moses Hackman]

Boy dressed up as a monkey in the Apple Store looking at a man.

[Trisha Paytas]

I see that. Have you seen it?

[Oscar]

No, that's.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's iconic. Okay, yeah, maybe he's just a fierce gay boy.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah, boy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not gay boy. I say that fierce boy. That's what I meant. I'm trying to eliminate the gay part. I mean, it's fine if you're gay as a kid. I just don't want to put that on him in case he's not.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah. And I guess his face is, like, not really visible in it too, so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it's a cute.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah, it's like cutesy, but yeah, it's like one of the gay Twitter things. There's a whole thing right now, the.

[Trisha Paytas]

Gay Halloween you know, love gay Twitter.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Or gay Halloween Twitter exclusively. Who's your favorite? Who's your favorite gay Halloween?

[Moses Hackman]

There's been so many. Which one did I see? I saw someone today who was princess and the popper. She was like the Barbie, like, princess look. But then she was holding a bottle of poppers, and it was like, that's kind of fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

People are so clever. I wish I could be that.

[Moses Hackman]

I saw. I saw both the girl who interrupted Kelly Hyer. Kelly. Hey. Are doing the apple dance. And then the gay who shoved Brittany Burst.

[Oscar]

I see him everywhere.

[Trisha Paytas]

The actual one or the costume?

[Oscar]

The costume is the one.

[Trisha Paytas]

How do they do it? How do they do the costume?

[Moses Hackman]

They just wear a sheer black, like, mesh shirt, like, little short shorts and a backwards hat. It's a really easy costume.

[Trisha Paytas]

But are they, like. Are they, like, shirt. Like, how do they know it's him? Or is it just, like, the vibe?

[Moses Hackman]

I think it's the vibe. Well, they put the side by side.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Moses Hackman]

They say, I hate gay Halloween. What do you mean? You're the guy who shoved Britney Broski doing the apple dance on a Sweat tour la. You know? And then they do the side by side.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's why they found that guy on Grinder. Poor thing. It's like, he probably feels bad. How intense. Why? He's, like, hiding, you know? But it's a great costume. I love it. Oh, my God.

[Moses Hackman]

That's really iconic that your, you know, one moment at the Sweat tour became a costume.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, it kind of is. Like, you're the Halloween costume. I love. I love the. What do you mean? I saw the one. I like the one that's like. What do you mean? Your Princess Diana, the lady and the Beanie Baby.

[Moses Hackman]

Halloween is so fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

Or what do you mean? Your child chapel row in the passenger seat. It was so good. I loved all of them. I didn't really get the meme until I saw, like, a thousand of them and I was like, okay, I get this meme now. It's so I'm not clever enough. I have to just do cosplay because I can't think of something like, what would you. I guess you're just pretty clever. You're the.

[Moses Hackman]

This was a popular one, though. Like, I saw a lot of people do the gay apple store monkey.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was original. I was like, wow.

[Moses Hackman]

Someone even, like, they went to a Halloween party and then there was two gay apple store monkeys. But then they combined their forces. It wasn't a competition. They didn't put the gay monkeys against each other. They united.

[Trisha Paytas]

You can't. You can't compete with Halloween costumes if someone's the same thing as you. Yeah, I love it. There's gonna be a thousand Glinda's out there. So although I'm not leaving my house so I won't see it. I'm competing with myself. So. Yeah, be nice. Behind. Who's the number one costume? Do we know this year? Sabrina.

[Moses Hackman]

Sabrina was the number one celebrity costume according to Google. And I think the number one overall was Beetlejuice.

[Trisha Paytas]

There were a lot of this weekend.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you go to parties?

[Moses Hackman]

No, I'm not really a Halloween partyer. I like crazy. I like the theatrics of it. I like seeing everyone's costumes. I like to dress up for a photo.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hackman]

I do feel maybe a tick tock.

[Trisha Paytas]

But literally this was our first costumes. We put on where most like. I feel like I wish we had somewhere to go. I was like, kind of. Me too. I kind of nailed it. And like when you have a good costume, you want to go somewhere. And I was like, but we have nowhere to go and we just take pictures and tiktoks. I like this. I think it's cute. You look comfy. Huh?

[Oscar]

We had a family custom. Good.

[Trisha Paytas]

We did. We did do a Halloween festival. I love having kids. The Halloween parties are 12 to 4. It's the best. And we were there at 11:58 and I was. We were the first. Like, nobody's there. So we're just like on the carousel by ourselves. It was just. It was just a fabulous time. And then. And then I had to run. I had to cut it short. I was very busy on Saturday. I like. We went to the Halloween festival and we were a league of their own because Moses is the only guy in our family. So we had all the girls, my mom, my sister, Malibu Elvis, me dress up as the Rockford Peaches. Moses had no idea what it was.

[Moses Hackman]

Do you know, you know the Madonna movie?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. The illegal they are on. People knew like everywhere we would go, they'd be like, there's no crying in baseball. And most like, I don't know, don't know this movie. He's like, we should have watched it before. But you looked great. It was fun. Malibu loved her little outfit. And then thank you to the sponsor of today's episode. Ro. Have you been curious about Ozempic but not sure if your insurance covers it. That's where row comes in. Row can help you understand if GLP ones are right for you and your goals. But that's just the beginning. ROWE members have support throughout the process. That means no insurance paperwork and you'll have access to your provider on demand for any questions. Plus, you can sign up online from the comfort of your own home. That means no waiting for an in person doctor's appointment, no commute to the doctor's office, and no waiting rooms. Join the over 250,000 people who have already chosen RO to access GLP1. S. Go to RO Trish to find out if you're covered for free. That's rock. Go to RO Safety for boxed warning and full safety information prescription only. And then I had to jet off to be a model. To be a model in a Petra Collins shoe.

[Moses Hackman]

That's everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it was really fun. I got to do a little mini I'm sorry campaign and, well, I guess I shouldn't say who's in it. It comes out, I think comes out on Halloween. It's very cool. And I can't really say who's in it, but very many iconic influencers, one we talk about a lot. And I was gay because, you know.

[Moses Hackman]

I think he told me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did I tell you? No, I don't think I told you. It's. I just found out Saturday.

[Moses Hackman]

Okay, then. No.

[Trisha Paytas]

There was two that I told. Maybe told you about.

[Moses Hackman]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

That were on the call sheet. And then these two. And. Well, I'm. Let me. There was a surprise and I was like, oh, my gosh, it was so much fun. Petra herself was there with her sister Anna, and it was. It was very cool. And they were very sweet and very humble. Like, if you guys don't know Petra Collins, I'm like, what? She literally, like, shoots for, like, different Vogue. She's like, literally Olivia Rodrigo. Like, she's like Selena Gomez, everybody. And like, literally, like the nicest, most humble, like, just. I was just like. It was the funnest shoe ever. She's just like, in it. And she's like, wedded a little what's my purse? And she's like in the backseat gig. Like, it was so much fun. And I. But I was, like, so nervous. I was doing my best not to be nervous, but I remember she was like, taking pictures and like, Polaroids of everyone. And I was just like. I, like, I couldn't even breathe. I couldn't even. I was just like. And she's like, it's beautiful. It's great. But she was like, I don't know. I didn't tell her I was nervous. Maybe she sees us. I was very nervous because I was Just like, oh, gosh. I just. I was very, very nervous. I was like, this is my shot to be a model. And I just, you know, I was very. I was shook. I was very honored. And, yeah, it was. I had to make it happen. I was. It was. It was really fun. And it was right across from a King Taco in Glendale, which was. Have you ever been to King Tacos? Wait, really? They're so good. I wanted. Actually, you know what? I didn't even stop to get it. What?

[Oscar]

There is a picture.

[Moses Hackman]

Breaking news.

[Oscar]

There is.

[Trisha Paytas]

We on. What, on Twitter?

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Whoa. We are on the Patreon, Bill Gordon, everything. Yay. Wait, what's it say? So it says Patreon. Just Trish. Good thing it's a flash.

[Oscar]

Just Trish. It's. It's beautiful.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my. It's beautiful.

[Oscar]

The Just Trish logo.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. Wow. I really need to, like, fly to New York to go take a picture in front of it or something, you know? It's so cool.

[Oscar]

Yeah, it was just posted this morning. Like, the billboard went up this morning and it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. Someone saw it. Oh, my God. That's so cool. Yeah.

[Oscar]

All the other posts are, you know, people dressing up.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, from. Yeah, those. We should do a review on Patreon of all the Trisha Paytas costumes. There was a lot.

[Oscar]

I hate gay Halloween. What do you mean? You're Trisha Paytas and Moses cosplaying as Sabrina Carpenter and Barry Coachella.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is that one of them? That's really funny. There's like, oh, my God, that's so funny. Oh, my God. I love that they're. I love that when people are, like, cosplaying as the person cosplaying. That is so funny. That's so good. Oh, my God. I love it. Yay. Thank you, Patreon, for putting us on a billboard. And I didn't have to pay for it. Usually every billboard I've ever done, like. No, every billboard except for Beauty creation. Shout out beauty creations too. But every billboard I've ever done, I used to, like, pay. I used to be, like, $10,000. Put my billboard up in the thing. So that's in Times Square. You know, I'm not paying for that. That's wild. So. God, yay. I mean, I love Patreon. I'm not gonna. I just keep saying it. They're just so great and so wonderful and they are amazing. So. Wow. That's so exciting. Okay, well, where were we? That was exciting.

[Moses Hackman]

Your modeling shoot.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my modeling shoe. Yeah, it Was fun. Across from King Taco was great. It was great. And I can't wait for you guys to see it because honestly it was good. And I guess I can tell you off camera who it was. I could just tell you now and bleep it. Leap it. Jimmy Fear. I was so excited and they were like literally so nice. And we got to talk about all the tea behind the scenes. They were very nice and they're just very chill and cool and so calm. And I like was just.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah, I was like that is an all star lineup. That really is.

[Trisha Paytas]

I really felt like this is cool.

[Moses Hackman]

I feel so cool.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it felt really cool and I was very excited. So there's tick tocks. I did feel like I was like the tick tock expert there because they were like what sound should we do? And they used all my sound. So I felt very important in that moment because I was like it's on my phone, right? I was doing them on my phone and then I can save it. It's cool. You can save without a lot of watermark now. And they were doing on my phone. But I was, oh my God. Those. It's happened so many times when me and Moses will post. The finger is so close to post when you do next next and then drafts. But like if you do next next there's. It's like right there by the post. And I was like so scared. Can like drop. Because it's a very specific theme. It's very like. And they're like kept it all hush, hush. And I was like, oh my God. What if I accidentally post? Oh my God. And almost one time almost did. I was like, thank God. Cuz when I also broke nails. So that's like nubby. It was just like wild. So it was. It was a really great shoot. I was super excited. And Anna, you went to the concert with. Yeah. She's wonderful.

[Moses Hackman]

That's how sweet they are. Is literally. I hadn't even met her and she just invited me to go to Olivia Rodrigo with her.

[Trisha Paytas]

So nice.

[Moses Hackman]

The absolute sweetest. And she's so funny and just a real girls girl. They're really the girls girl. They really are.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was actually kind of wild. That's kind of like this is. And they're just like so humble. I don't know. I guess cuz you guys know me. When I see someone do like big things, I think they're not human. I guess I'm just like, oh my God. They're like, you know, a God or something. And I was like, wow, they're actually just like so chill and cool and nice and I. Oh, I was actually. Okay, this is a story I can share. Cuz I don't think it's like. It's not like part of it or whatever. We were in the car doing like a little like video and it's like in a little alley. And so I was just so nervous cuz we're all like talking and a part of it was like improv. I. Okay, so like I was like in an alley and I went to go turn and I got one of those situations where you're just going like back and forth between the wall. So like. Okay, the alley's like this. I turned my car like this and I'm just like going back and forth trying to turn it and I could not turn.

[Moses Hackman]

Oh, like a 50 point turn.

[Trisha Paytas]

Literally. That's called it. The other guy called it that. They were sweet. They were not. Whatever. But I was like, I'm so sorry you guys. I'm just very nervous right now. And I couldn't. I literally was going. And it literally took five, five minutes. And then they did have a videographer outside the car. I'm like, well, you know, I guess you can use that. I was, I was probably so. I really am an. I really am an awkward person. That's what I've learned. But I really tried my best and it was actually really fun and it was a great shoot. So.

[Oscar]

Yeah, we do have somebody live over there.

[Moses Hackman]

Live on the scene at New York.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you call a fan? Who was that?

[Oscar]

Oh, well, Jimmy will insert it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, whoa, where is that? Is it in Times Square?

[Oscar]

Yeah. And it's.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is it a video or picture?

[Oscar]

It's a screen and it's its own.

[Trisha Paytas]

So it changes.

[Oscar]

It's like a corner of a building and it's. And it's like you're on your own billboard in the corner of the building. It's so cool.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my God, that's great. It's so bright and pink. Look how like dull it is.

[Oscar]

We love even the street. Like you see the wide view of the street and it's like, like you can't miss.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's a bright pink. Wow. I wonder if we'll see an influx in people on our Patreon. Like maybe that's why a billboard is there. I think that'd be cool. Oh my God. We all of a sudden get a million people on our Patreon. I think that's very cool. Wow. How amazing. All right. What a great. I really did feel Good vibes. We've been saying this for so long. We feel like, you know, things are going great and good, and we're on a good energy. You're hot topic this week. Oscar had an eventful week. I was so proud. I posted on just. I should have posted on my story, too.

[Moses Hackman]

I was like, oh, my God, we did it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was so happy for you. I don't know. You know me again, when anything is like celebrity or red carpet, I look at people again just like, oh, my God. How are you doing?

[Moses Hackman]

This is the coolest thing ever.

[Trisha Paytas]

And it was so surreal to see you there because, like, I know you did it in the past, but I guess, like, in the current, and then now I'm just like, wow, that's pretty cool.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Was it?

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah. So my. If. If you're on Patreon, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right. We did tell you on the extended.

[Moses Hackman]

Yes. But my interview, my special red carpet interview was Olivia Rodrigo for her guts Netflix movie premiere. And I was so guy, like you said. I've done interviews, like, a while ago, like, 2019, 2018, 2017. I used to do red carpets all the time, but this is my first one, literally, in, like, six years. So I was anxious. I was really nervous, mostly because I wanted. First of all, I found out no one really cared. They're like, oscar, do whatever you want. But I was like, oh, my God. Like, I have to make sure I solay this. Like, I need them to know, like, I can be trusted. Boots on the ground and no one cares.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, they didn't.

[Moses Hackman]

After they did, they were, like, excited for me. But it wasn't like a, you know, make or break, like, oscar, don't mess this up thing. It was just like, do it, do it. Have fun. Like, we trust you kind of vibe, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

That's wild. So you came up with the questions, or they did prepare questions?

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah, I came up with the questions. They prepared some, but they were like, you can kind of do whatever you want. Because I was like, okay, t so.

[Trisha Paytas]

And who's okay? And then they bring a videographer. E.T. brings one.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah, there's like, a crew that's hired. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So you're with a crew?

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah, we have an audio guy and a film videographer, I suppose. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So there's two.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Moses Hackman]

There's a PA There to help me shout out, chad, I was wondering who.

[Trisha Paytas]

Filmed you doing the interview. And I was like, that's so cool. Like, you just ask someone, like, film me.

[Moses Hackman]

But really, that is the vibe. Like, you could Everyone's. We're like, it's really small carpet and it's, like, very tight, you know, so you kind of make friends with people around you. I was really, again, like, awkward person. So I pretty much, like, kept to myself and I was like. And I was just so anxious. I was. Because it's my first one and I love Olivia so much. So it was, like, extra anxious because I was like, I knew I would do a good job with her because I, like, love love her. And I've listened to her literally since before driver's license. Like, I was listening to her, so I knew I was gonna vibe with her, but I was still, like, anxious about it because I just. Just haven't done it in so long.

[Trisha Paytas]

I thought. Well, did the interview come out?

[Moses Hackman]

I think I posted it on Tick tock on ETs. Tick tock.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, the interview?

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I don't know if I saw, but are you. Your. Your hand is in it?

[Moses Hackman]

It's my hand. Just my hand.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, they really shouldn't put you in. I feel like they will always put Denny in. And we love Denny. But, like, you're also a celebrity interviewer.

[Oscar]

That's so weird to get 10 tattoos.

[Trisha Paytas]

People know.

[Moses Hackman]

But yeah, Olivia was really, really nice. And like, all the comments on the Tick Tock too is like, it's all like the just Trish viewers. And when I looked the first time because I didn't know I was go gonna do, I was like, I don't know. And I posted it all, like, literally, like, the top 100 comments. Like, Oscar was so proud. And I, like, literally cried. I was like, this is so sweet.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's so crazy.

[Moses Hackman]

Heartwarming.

[Trisha Paytas]

Can you hear your voice?

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah. They're like. And even, like, in the wild, like, on Twitter, whatever, like, random clips would, like, be posted and people would be like, is this Oscar from just Trish? And I was like, that's so cute.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. Go to the ET Tech and find Oscars. Olivia Rodrigo interview. I think to see it actually was, like, looking, but I think I was looking for your name with Olivia Rodrigo. I'll go and look too. I'll repost it. I'm so excited we got to get it. Like, 10 million views. And I'm like, wow, this was a really good one. Remind me to do that. I'm going to do it. That's so cute. I love that.

[Moses Hackman]

It was really fun. Like, she was so sweet. Honestly, the vibes there were really nice. Like, her publicist is very, like, you know, stern, but, like, Very sweet, low key. Olivia's very chill. The whole vibe there was just like, so nice. Everyone was so, so nice. The Netflix people were really nice. Everyone, like on the crew, like the other crews. Really nice. And it was like a small carpet, so it wasn't as, like, crazy, you know, like, the guest list was like, you know, five people or something. But wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

Crazy. Yeah.

[Moses Hackman]

That was really cool.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. And then. So do you have to flag Olivia down or she just.

[Moses Hackman]

No, yeah, the. Her team, like, because it is her event, so it's easier. It would be harder for like a general, like a Grammys or something, but for like this, like the. Her publicist knew in advance, like, like, ET Is here. Like, they know the whole list and go down the list. And then at, like, even before she came, Republicist was just like, asking, like, you know, we're gonna do like three. That's the stressful part. It's like, okay, you get three questions with her. I'm gonna wrap you on two. I was like, okay, wait, what does.

[Trisha Paytas]

That meaning at three? I'm gonna wrap onto.

[Moses Hackman]

I have two questions. I'm gonna, like, start tapping you to end the interview, then you can squeeze.

[Trisha Paytas]

We didn't do that.

[Moses Hackman]

Yes. So that's. They like, sometimes some publicists are aggressive and will just pull. Olivia's, like, whole team is very, very nice.

[Trisha Paytas]

They pull the girl or they pull you.

[Moses Hackman]

They pull the talent, like, to keep walking.

[Trisha Paytas]

What?

[Moses Hackman]

That's why they'll give you, like a little symbol or they'll just like, tap you. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, how weird.

[Moses Hackman]

And if it's like a stern, they'll be like, okay, thank you. And then they'll just pull them, actually take that back.

[Trisha Paytas]

I kind of love that, actually. Someone getting me out of a conversation that's actually kind of iconic. I love it. I take it back. I was like, don't touch me. But I was like, actually, you know what? Yep. Sorry. Gotta go there. It's them. That's actually so cool. Okay, I like that.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah, it was. Wow. And literally, like. I don't know. I was so rusty about it too, but I did a couple warmups, like. Cause there was a couple other people. Laufey, who's another singer, was there and I interviewed her. And Xochit Gomez, who was in a multiverse of madness, which is like a Marvel movie with the Scarlet Witch. I talked to her and she was on Dancing with the Stars. She's so cute. I love her.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, like a season ago or two. Yeah, like two seasons ago.

[Moses Hackman]

I think she's really cute. Cause I just hadn't done it in a long time, so I felt like I needed to, like, get back in the habit.

[Trisha Paytas]

But did you like it?

[Moses Hackman]

It actually was fun. I could only do it for people I know because, like, Sochi, like, I, like, obviously love her from the movies and on Instagram and Twitter, she's, like, so cute because she styles herself and she goes to, like, every event. She's cute. Like, I had stuff to talk about, but if it was random people that, like, I wasn't prepared for, I would probably flop. But because this one was like, it's my girls. Like, you know, it's like a doll event. Like, I feel like I can slay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my gosh. It's so exciting.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah, it was really, really fierce. I felt like it, like, gave me a good vibe again. It's been a rough couple weeks, and I was like. I think I got emotional because I was, like, asking universe. I'm like, I just need a sign that it's going to be okay. And then everyone at work was like, oscar, you want to do this? And I was like, yeah. Like, everyone at work was so nice, like, let me do it, and so supportive.

[Trisha Paytas]

So they know because you're a super fan.

[Moses Hackman]

My desk is literally, like, all purple.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I didn't realize, like, you were that big of Olivia. Super fan.

[Moses Hackman]

Olivia's like, it's like Taylor. Olivia almost tied, really? Taylor obviously had known, like, Stan longer, but Olivia is, like, my comfort artist.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, and did you feel, not to be parasocial, but, like, a connection where you're like, okay, we could be friends.

[Moses Hackman]

She was really, really sweet. Like, right off the bat, she's like, hey, Oscar. Like, I said. I said my name. I saw. But in my head, I was like.

[Trisha Paytas]

That'S my dream to be. Like, hi.

[Moses Hackman]

But she did. Out of all the getty images to post, and there's like, 500 of her, she posted one where she was walking towards me, and it's my, like, hand on her Instagram story I'm choosing to believe.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who said that? Oh, my. Like, next time, tag me to Kylie. Like, it'd be nice if she would tag me, but. Okay, that's nice response.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Like, that's obviously her best memory from. Yeah, like, she chose that moment for sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

I wouldn't put just, like, a random microphone in there if I didn't love that moment. That's why.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah, she was so, so sweet. I love her so much. But, yeah, I didn't get a photo with her, but that's Okay. I feel like. I feel like I'll see her again at some point. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, for sure.

[Moses Hackman]

I think it was more important for me to, like, do a good job for my work so they know I'm not going to just, like, go and make it all about me. That was also, like, important to me.

[Trisha Paytas]

You should. That was a moment. But that's fine.

[Oscar]

I know, like, in the moment, it's so much better when you don't cross that line in that setting. Because now she has a trust in you, you know, like, he's professional. I can trust him.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's true, I guess. But if I was, like, a super Stan, like, if I was on the wicked red carpet, I would take pictures of every single person. I'm like, yes, yes. Boeing.

[Oscar]

He has a picture with her interviewing her. That's so much more than being just a fan. You're actually there on a professional level.

[Trisha Paytas]

I still would have probably gotten the picture.

[Moses Hackman]

I think I was. I feel like I'll see her again. The carpets are just so stressful because literally, like, I was looking at the whole footage and the whole footage. It felt longer in my head. I kind of blacked out, I think. But, like, I look at the whole footage, I was. It was like one minute and, like, 50 seconds, and I was like, no. Like, is this only part of the footage? And I was like, this was everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, really?

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah. Because literally three questions. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

What were your three questions?

[Moses Hackman]

What does the era mean to you? Just, like, a summary. It was like, what does this era mean to you? Because she got emotional. She just finished her tour and she was crying, so I was like, I saw you got emotional.

[Trisha Paytas]

Live.

[Moses Hackman]

Like, what does this era mean to you?

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's the best thing ever. That's so cute. I love that.

[Moses Hackman]

That's my niece. Yeah. And what else today? Yeah. I was like, okay, so now that the tour's over, like, what are you gonna be up to? Vacationing? Because she says she wants to go on vacation, but I already know she already has to be working on the next album. And that's what everyone wants to know. We want to know what's coming next. So I was like, are you working on OR three? I was really in the know. I think I was like, OR three. Like, what's. Or Olivia Rodrigo. Three. Got it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Got it. You're really giving me.

[Moses Hackman]

What did she say?

[Trisha Paytas]

What are you talking about? What's. Or. I don't know. If someone said, how about TP2? I'd be like, What? I would not. That's what I would think. I think toilet paper.

[Moses Hackman]

No, she was very in the know.

[Trisha Paytas]

She loved it.

[Moses Hackman]

And then. Oh, yeah. I was like, you know, she did her first ever love song is so American. And it was like a bonus track on her last album. And she's in a relationship now. She always has sad songs. She's another sad song girl. That's why I love her, though. It's like all sad songs. Self doubt, insecurity, self loathing. It's very, like, you know, even though she's young, the themes are timeless. That's why I always love her. But she's in a relationship now. He's like. It almost gives, like, Edward Cullen, like, Bella vibes because he's, like, tall, like, kind of, like, chiseled base. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

What's his name?

[Moses Hackman]

Is he Patridge? Yeah, he's a British actor.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Moses Hackman]

But I wanted to be cool about it because I heard the other. No shade at all. But I heard the other outlets practicing their questions, and they were talking about, like, they were going straight for the jugular asking about him. And I was like, I know Olivia. Like, I know her. And she. If you are, like, blunt about it, she's going to be like, ooh, I don't know. And that's the whole question, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, so what was your premise?

[Moses Hackman]

So mine was like, you know, I saw the Guts tour two times, so American is my favorite performance in it. She's like, thank you so much. And I was like, yeah, so. Or three. Like, is it gonna be more love inspired?

[Trisha Paytas]

And she's like, that's a good question.

[Moses Hackman]

You're gonna have to tune in. But she did it with a smile that. I'm pretty sure there's love songs. I think that's the theme. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

She had the PR train. You tune into the next.

[Moses Hackman]

She's so PR trained. That's the problem with her is she's so PR trained.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hackman]

So I knew I had to go in. My manager is so sweet. She's like, you're very disarming. So I think you can go in and just charm her. And I was like, okay. Got it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think so. I think you are that for sure. When I looked at. Back at our old interviews, I was like. I was like, spilling all the tea for no reason.

[Moses Hackman]

I feel like you were kind of easy to get it out. No PR change.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. You just give me, like, one little nudge. I'm like, actually, let me just tell you about this whole thing. Yeah, that's so cool. Oh, My God. Were you, like, at the end of the row or middle?

[Moses Hackman]

It was the beginning each. For some reason, I think they're the oldest show, so they're always, like, first on the carpet. Netflix technically was first because it was their event, but then. Yeah. So it's always nice that I don't have to worry about, like, will I get or will I not?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, you just had it. And then, of course, the infamous, infamous Chapel.

[Moses Hackman]

So this was. Honestly, if I just witnessed this event, it would have been enough. Chapel was on the. The tip sheet, and I was like, this is fierce. Maybe I'll talk to her. Maybe that was kind of the dream, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like a. Yeah.

[Moses Hackman]

Then she walks. She shows up in the carpet.

[Trisha Paytas]

What did you think when you saw her?

[Moses Hackman]

God, I was like, oh, my God. That's. That's my sister, you know? But it's not like, an Olivia guy. For some reason. Chapel, like, I think because we're both queer, that I'm like, yeah, it's like family. Yeah. I'm like, the queer. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, are you? Are you?

[Moses Hackman]

Yes. So, like, I don't know. The vibes are just. I already kind of was feeling the vibes. I'm like. I wasn't, like, g. Like, shaky as I was for Olivia. I was like, that's. You know, that's a sister calmness over you. I was gagged, but calm. I don't know. And then she's walking, and then I'm filming her, like, on my phone as she's, like, posing, whatever. And then she did it. And then she did it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, like, how.

[Moses Hackman]

How long.

[Trisha Paytas]

From her hitting the carpet did she do it?

[Moses Hackman]

It was about it. I started filming as soon as she walked the carpet. And it happened about, like, 50 seconds in.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's like, it happened.

[Moses Hackman]

She pointed and I cackled. As soon as she pointed, I literally cackled. And I love it because you can hear in all the viral clips of Chapel going off on Olivia's premiere, you can hear a cackle in the background. And it's me. And I was smiling ear to ear. I was like, oh, baby, oh, baby, oh, baby.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you know? Did you see the guy that she pointed out? No.

[Moses Hackman]

First of all, it was a woman. The tea.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hackman]

This is exclusive tea. Because there's a lot of false information going around.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hackman]

Yes. So I didn't know at first, though, because I couldn't see who she was pointing at, like, specifically. But I saw the point, and I saw the head cock. And then she. She did, like, a little, like, a smirk for a second, and I lost it. This was. It was like my gay dream. Like, I love it. At first I thought she was just recreating the not me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh.

[Moses Hackman]

But then I noticed it was real. When she started walking over, I was like, oh, we're in for a treat. We're in for a treat where people like, whoa. Everyone was like, oh, my God. How could she. Literally everyone on the press. Yes. Everyone next to me was like, oh, my God. Like, no, no. And I was really. Yes. And I was laughing. I was like, oh, my God. This is amazing. I love. I look.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you cheer? I'd be like, yes, yes.

[Moses Hackman]

I loved it. I turned back to chat. Chad is another gay. So. And he was the PA that was helping me. And I looked over at chat, and we both were. Gay thing. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, right, right.

[Moses Hackman]

Another, like, you know, first, I think the gays understand how it's fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, they always know we get. We don't provide.

[Moses Hackman]

But everyone else was like, oh, my God, how could she do this?

[Trisha Paytas]

And I love it.

[Moses Hackman]

I was trying to hear the whole thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you hear it?

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah. She's like, the Grammys. She. I think the gist of it was she pointed out a photographer, and she's like, you were so rude to me at the Grammys. And the photographer was like, I wasn't even at the Grammys. She's like, no, you were the great. The umg Grammys after party. Yeah. She knew she had the specific reference. And she's like, I deserve an apology. And I don't think the photographer gave.

[Trisha Paytas]

It to her, but the photographer say anything.

[Moses Hackman]

She. I couldn't hear what she was saying in the moment. So, okay, Chapel's there. She's going off. She's like, I deserve an apology. And then the publicist comes. I don't think it was her exact publicist, because I hadn't seen her before, but she comes to kind of, like, pull Chapel back. And that poor publicist look gagged, too.

[Trisha Paytas]

She was like, yeah.

[Moses Hackman]

She didn't really know what to do. So she kind of pulls her back. And then Chapel goes, I'm not posing for you. And she posed for everyone else. I was like, this is. And then it's so good. And then again, in the audio of, like, all the different angles, it's me going, I just love her. Which I didn't even realize until I'm watching back, like, the clips that keep getting posted. And it's me being like, I just love her.

[Trisha Paytas]

Supportive in person with Her. I was so excited for her because I'm like, good for her. Rude people.

[Moses Hackman]

Although I knew in the moment she wasn't gonna do interviews after that, because I'm like, there's no way. You can kind of go, do you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Think she was supposed to?

[Moses Hackman]

No, I don't think so. Because her public, I think maybe she saw me. She did walk past me, and she posed right in front of me, and then she blew me and kissed.

[Trisha Paytas]

No.

[Moses Hackman]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really?

[Moses Hackman]

I'm choosing to. Again, choosing to believe. Is that me? But there was no one else. Really? Yeah. That. I have a video of it, too, where she looks at me, blows me a kiss, and then I kind of freak out and like it, like, lost.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, the camera is hurt. Like, what was your face? She, like, bl. Camera's blowing you a kiss. What was your face?

[Moses Hackman]

Just smiling the whole time.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you, like. Did you give away? Yeah. Did you give away?

[Moses Hackman]

No, because I was just, like, kind of gagged. I was like, wait, what? I was smiling. I don't know. I just smiled at her and was like, hey.

[Trisha Paytas]

I always wait. I wake to every celebrity that I think I'm just like, hi, in case. Like, even when we see Donny Osmond on stage, I'm always like, hi. Like, I always just, like, want to, like, just in case.

[Moses Hackman]

That's true. I should have. I kind of froze in the moment, though, because I wasn't expecting it, but.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would've wanted kiss back. That's so cute. She was.

[Moses Hackman]

And I was trying to, like, vibe. I was like, maybe I can still get an interview if she sees me. But no, that was, like, the dulu.

[Trisha Paytas]

Of it all, you know, that's the dream. Always is. Like, the star will recognize me. And sometimes it happens.

[Moses Hackman]

Sometimes it works. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I think that's a good try. I think people would've waved, maybe, but it was just.

[Moses Hackman]

Just again witnessing that historic moment. I was like, this is fierce. This is so fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

So good.

[Moses Hackman]

And then the photographer literally came. Like, Chapel was still posing for photos. And then the photographer came. The Netflix publicist was, like, kind of standing in front of me, almost, like, maybe like, midway distance between us, so really close. Comes behind me, and then yells at the Netflix publicist to kind of tell on Chapel. She's like, she was so rude to me. She said that I need to apologize to her because I. I yelled at her at the Grammys. I wasn't even at the Grammys. Blah, blah, blah.

[Trisha Paytas]

You had the Grammy after party?

[Moses Hackman]

The UMG Grammys after party.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Yeah.

[Moses Hackman]

And I was like, oh, I was really. My ear was like getting all the.

[Trisha Paytas]

What did she want her to do? Be like, okay, Chap, we can't be here. Like, she's in the thing. Like, what? That's. What a weirdo.

[Moses Hackman]

So. And then I. When I was leaving, all the photographers were like, we were waiting in valet and I was getting the tea. So I. We. I was like talking to them. But they were all kind of giving different, like, records of what happened. Like some. One of the guys. I was talking about the. Like, it was three years ago and she remembered. But then I looked on getting images. I'm like, which happened even be at a Grammy's party three years ago. Like, that's kind of random.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, they kind of just made it up.

[Moses Hackman]

And 2023 was her first Grammys UMG afterparty. So I think she said 2023. Okay, so maybe they missed her three years. Yeah, so I think it was like a year ago. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Well, she doesn't forget.

[Moses Hackman]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

And Daniel Prada said he goes, you guys understand, like, because he's also like, he works. He's like, worked those records. Like, these photographers are like, so rude to these people who are like, giving them pictures that they like, you know, get money for whatever. And it's just like, it's good, like someone calls them out. You know what I mean? Because I've heard it like, sometimes, like when you see like, behind the scenes of red carpet and people just being so rude and, you know, telling them to do stuff and smile and this and that's like, you know, it's good to call. And I don't know what she said, but obviously it was deserving because, like, I feel like we've only seen Chapel do it when people are like, rude to her. She's not rude to anyone else. You know what I mean?

[Moses Hackman]

Willy nilly. This is like, it's diva behavior in the best way. And divas are an endangered species. So literally. And I am a diva conservationist. My causes right now or Save the Whales. Save the Divas are like my two platforms worms. Anyone who is giving Chapel a hard time about this, like, please, we need to preserve and save these divas because this behavior is so iconic, so fierce. Literally witnessing him in person changed my life. I wish I could be like Chapel more often. I do have moments of Chapel where I stand up for myself, but not as fiercely and with such decorum, with such the way she carries herself as she does it. A hair flip after. I'm not posing for you is the fiercest thing I literally. It was drag. It literally was drag. It was such a show. It was like, literally RuPaul's Drag Race Untucked vibes. Like, I can't describe how it changed my life and I'm so thankful to have witnessed it. I'm so, so, so grateful to have witnessed it. And like Daniel was saying, yeah, the photographers are just, like, they're very old school. They've all been doing the job forever and they don't really have the sensitive, you know, like, any vibe at all. They. Not a lot of decorum, granted. Yes, they're trying to do their job. And their job is also a lot, too, because you get there so early, you're driving all around la, you're waiting. Dating depends on getting the shot. But they kind of just yell. They don't. They all know each other. They've been doing it for so long. It's so old school. So they kind of just don't care and have no, like, the quorum about it. And she's challenging this. She's like, no, just, like, be nicer about it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, ask for your shot.

[Moses Hackman]

Like, if you're nice about it, you know, all these artists will pose for you and you'll get the shot. But I can imagine, too, probably 2023 Chapel is not as famous, so it's probably like, move, get out of the way.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right? No, you were rude. I remember that.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's also just needed, like, more people, like, need to stand up for themselves. Been like, it's just such a crazy thing because in the same weekend, it just like, like, with Tom Holland was in D, like, in him. Like, just, like, literally, like, shoving, like, physically pushing someone because they were being rude to Zendaya. It's like everyone, like, applauded that, like, you know, as they should. Like, that was good. Like, stand up for, like, people are just, like, so ruthless. And. And everyone's like, oh, my God, Tom Holland, yes, he saved her. Like, he stood up for Zendaya. Like, we'd love to see that. And then the minute, like, Chapel literally just tell someone, like, you were rude to me. You owe me apologies. Like, oh, my God. Like, oh, she's so rude. She says this, like, she's asking for an apology. She didn't even do anything else. Like, she could have done, like, way more and, like, embarrassed her or whatever. But it's just, like, people are so double standard of men. It's actually insane. It's actually crazy. Like, one is physically shoving someone. Like, he's great. He's a king. And then the other one, she's like, you want me to apology? And like, what a diva. Or diva in the worst. In the bad way. Like, she's like, what? What an awful person. Like, she's so rude. Off this again. Like, it's like, yeah.

[Moses Hackman]

Oh, another. This is getting tired. She's doing it again. Oh, she should. It is so fierce. And this is not even. I'm biased because I like her and biased because I'm gay. But I'm not trying to lobby to get her on this program or anything. I would feel this if I, you know, had no contact with her whatsoever. I think it is so fierce. And it is. She's like, it's camp. It is so camp. And like you said, it's not willy nilly, like, going around bullying people. It's not even like a Blake Lively with, like, congrats on your bump. Like, that is kind of rude.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, she wasn't rude. Like, you want me to apology? You're rude to me. And everyone's like, wow, she's so rude. It's like, no, that person was like, I love that. Because I wish I could be more like that.

[Moses Hackman]

Me too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, calling people. Like, you were actually rude. Like, like, so many people. I would be like, you owe me an apology. Like, what? Like, it drives me nuts. But I. I love that she can do it.

[Moses Hackman]

And people were giving her flack, too, because, oh, it's Olivia's event, and now everyone's talking about this. Olivia does not care. Like, her Chapel friends. Yeah. And Olivia, I asked her about Chapel too, and she was like, honestly, like, Chapel has taught me a lot about, like, creativity and being an artist and, like, taking care of yourself more. So I go to Chapel for advice on that, and I was like, it's he. Olivia's probably like, damn, wish I could be like you a little bit.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, actually, it's like, it's just, like, refreshing to see. I love it. It really is just, like, people being misogynistic in this world. I mean, everyone. We see it so many. Because there's so many, like, female leads out there right now. And yeah, it is kind of crazy, too. A lot of the hate that they get are queer women. You know what I mean? Like, they get so much hate. More so. Because it's like, I don't know what it is. I don't know. It's just, like, people really want to, like, drag someone down. Down. I mean, women in general, like Ariana, a lot of people do get, like, dragged down, but I think that's super fierce. I mean, you saw them on tour together or. No. Oh, I guess she came out as the guest. Yeah, but not the opener.

[Moses Hackman]

No, not as the opener. She came when I saw her Olivia on tour. Chapel came out for, like, a special performance of Hot to Go, which is in the Netflix documentary concert film.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you stay and watch it?

[Moses Hackman]

No, I got a screener for it, but I had to go work, so I just went back to the office to, like, edit everything thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, okay. Yeah, we went at night time.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah. Because I think we finished.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, that's spooky. Not really. You got the people there at night.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah, because everyone. We like, we all finish our shoes at night. Like, you know, everyone else has other events and stuff, and then we come back and wrap them up.

[Trisha Paytas]

So spooky. I don't like that, like, going into, like, a studio and just like. I don't know. It sounds scary. It sounds like Five Nights at Freddy or something like that. Oh, you like Five Nights at Freddy today? That's kind of your.

[Moses Hackman]

Oh, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't think we're in the sequel. I think they're already filming it.

[Moses Hackman]

You're so right. And I really was lobbying. I kind of thought maybe too.

[Trisha Paytas]

We really went hard for it.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

We did the cosplay, right?

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah. Who were you? You the Fazbear?

[Moses Hackman]

I was Freddy Fazbear. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it. Looks like part of the costume. You could also double as a UPS worker.

[Moses Hackman]

I love brown.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I love how crazy of a company to be like, we're going to have a brown as our signature color.

[Moses Hackman]

Honestly, kind of fierce. I like a deep brown.

[Trisha Paytas]

It is nice. It's a nice color. I just want to, like, pick that for, like, my branding. I don't know if the Patreon billboard great and, like, brown, but maybe if.

[Oscar]

You'Re a delivery company, I mean, it works.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, you know, ups, that brown truck, you know, they probably figured it's.

[Oscar]

Gonna save millions in not having to wash their cars every day.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that's true. Because the box are, like, dirty and stuff, so they're probably like, okay, we don't have to get our.

[Oscar]

The trucks look like a big brown box.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I like it. Well, that's very exciting. I was very excited to see you there. I was very happy for you. I was like, oh, my God. It's just. It's really cool because you know me. I love a red carpet it. And next time Oscar's not available, I'd love to go. I'D also love to meet with my peak microphone right next to.

[Moses Hackman]

That'd be so fierce to each other. Yeah. Okay. Trisha would just. I love it. They did the little. They, like, bring them right to you. It's so funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really? Like, this is Trisha from Just Trish. Wow. Your show's named after you. That's wild. Narcissist much? That'd be crazy. That'd be so fun. Okay, well, get me on a red carpet. I would love to go with you to a red carpet and we both do it together.

[Moses Hackman]

I would live.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would want to go first. I think I'd be too nervous watching you because you're actually very good at it. So I need to be in front of you, and then that'd be wild.

[Moses Hackman]

Oh, who knows? Your moment may come.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm ready.

[Moses Hackman]

You got your shout out from Cynthia and Ariana and Bowen. Wow. Trinity.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was. Wow. That was like. That was so cool. Oh, my God. So was it after our last episode?

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah, last Wednesday.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's always after we film something.

[Moses Hackman]

I know. And very short after. Too short. 30 minutes after.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was actually still in the outfit, and I was like, oh, should I, like, do, like, a merch? Yeah, I literally thought about it. Cause you had just left, too. And I was like. I think I first saw it. Trish Crave broke it to me. I think they really did. They were, like, the first on my Twitter, and they're like, ariana reposters. And I was like, why? I got so excited. I went check the story. Ariana posted our Elphaba cosplay, which I was, like, super excited about. And it's actually the Elphaba and Fiero from the production. The stage production. So these are the movie recreations. So maybe we'll get another repost.

[Moses Hackman]

I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

But she did it from the stage production, which was, like, super, super cool. And she was reposting a lot of people in her story, which is great. We love. Oh, no, she. I'm sorry. She reposted from the screening. The early screening.

[Moses Hackman]

Oh, the getty images.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Yes. Cynthia reposted, which was very exciting because our. Since our. My Elphaba was inspired by her glam. She has, like, the freckles and the green lips. So we looked at her for the inspiration photo. So I was very excited to see that Bo and Yang also reposted on his story from the Wicked screening. I was very excited. I don't, like. I don't know. I just was like. I felt like they seen me, you know, What I mean? And I felt very, very cool. And I was like, do I DM them? Do they want to come on the podcast? Like, you know, this is my moment. I really was like, I was kind of like, we had so many, like scream worthy moments in the past, like, week, but I was kind of gagging him in. My God. It was. What was I. Last week I was something. So I was still in the costume when I did it or maybe I took the wig off or something. But I was so excited. It was, it honestly felt surreal. And then I went to go check like many notifications and says, like, Ariana Grande liked your photo. Photo. And I think that was the Alphabet one she liked. And I was just like, oh, my God. So I reposted that too. I was like, oh, my God, she liked the photo. I was so excited. It was so cool. And then obviously, like the biggest thing in the whole world is Cynthia Erivo, who commented the two green hearts. I was like, oh, my God. Like, that's. No, you, like, don't understand. Like, once you see this movie, like, truly, truly, truly, like the star, like the like true star. Quality power. I mean, it's literally like Judy Garland. Like, it's just like literally somebody from like wizard of Oz. It's out. Is like the star so good. So it was just like, I. I couldn't believe it. I'm like so shook. So I will frame that because I think it's the coolest thing. Once the movie comes out, once those Oscar nominations come out, like, I'm gonna be so excited.

[Moses Hackman]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

With your review, I still was very excited. I was really, really happy to see it made my. It literally made my whole life. Like, I did feel like a little kid where you just get like a little recognition from the people you love and you're just like, ah, so cool. Because I've cosplayed my whole life and I mean, very few people recognize or acknowledge, you know, the cosplay. And this is the last thing I thought would get recognized for. Just because there's so many Wicked cosplays out there and there's so much Wicked content. So I just thought it would be the last thing. But Wicked, the musical itself also sent us a DM and said, next time in New York, we'd love you to come to Oz.

[Moses Hackman]

Wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. So I was like, okay. So I really do gotta figure out a New York trip. I know I keep saying this. We gotta figure out a New York trip to see the Billboard, to see Rachel Zach, to see Wicked there's just so much happening there. My agent just moved to New York. Shout out Lydia. And that's like, there's so many things to see and we'll figure out a way someday, somehow. And it was really cool. So, yeah, I got three. Three of the main characters in. In Wicked is cool. Like, I would not expect, like, Michelle Yeoh or Jeff Goldblum, obviously they're like, older. Probably not on social media. Maybe they are. I don't know. But maybe not like that. So I would love. I love Marissa Bode, Shadow Boat. I would love. Obviously Jonathan Bailey would be great. But all of it's very exciting. And yeah, maybe they'll come on the podcast. Open invitation. I am wearing REM Beauty's Wicked collection today. I really am. This one is really great, actually. This is the Total Osmopolitan. And I am wearing it on my lips today. It is really nice and really great. I did a little tutorial getting ready with me. I did not get the PR package like Mikayla. I bought it myself, though. Would have loved a PR package. Cause it just looks cool the way they present it.

[Moses Hackman]

It did look really fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

We know. But I did get all of it because I thought it was going to sell out. And it's really great. The REM Beauty Wicked. And then I got the Glinda Crocs today. These came in. These are the little Glinda Bubble Crocs. We got our Glinda, Stanley, Glenda, Her Universe, and then the doll. So we are all glidified. And then this is the REM Beauty Wicked lip oil. And it's really nice too, as well, so. Got all of it. Love it so much. Yeah, I was. That was. I was so excited. I really did. I. I didn't DM them, but maybe I should. They probably wouldn't see it. I thought maybe this is my moment. Like, this is my moment. Like, I'm going to do it. And then I chickened out a little bit. So me, Bone Yang, Harry Daniels, Dan Boy and Yang.

[Moses Hackman]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Which is so typed it out. There's. And I was like, I guess. He's like, you want to go on what? It was like, you do a podcast. You want to do just a pod swap to Bony. Carry on. I was like, okay, I love you. Did a group chat with them.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah, it's Harry Daniels with Matt Rogers and Bowen.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hackman]

That's why he's like, you want me to DM him? I just saw Bowen the other day. I was. I was like, yeah, why not?

[Trisha Paytas]

We'll go to New York. That's another thing to add to the New York list. Go on Bonyang's podcast, Las Culturistas. Is it LA or las.

[Moses Hackman]

Oh, I think it's la, actually.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. La Cultaristas. Okay. I love it so much. And Matt Rogers, we love you guys. If you want number 335 icons, las culturistas. What is it? Las Culturistas or Las.

[Moses Hackman]

Las Culturistas.

[Trisha Paytas]

Las Culturistas. Well, if you want one of your icons on your podcast, number 335, ready to jump in? I would love. Yeah, that's cool. Harry Daniels also making the rounds everywhere. He's. He's great. I love him. He's so funny. Like, I'm like, sure, why not? Everyone just knows me from, like, Harry Daniels trying to push us. It was kind of cool. It's kind of a slight. We are getting recognized. I was like, that's. It's cool. Like I said, I think it's very cool. I don't leave my house and I also don't expect anything because I really do just love dressing up. But it's cool. Like, I think I've done maybe like a thousand Britney Spears cosplays and have never gotten acknowledged. Of course it's Britney Spears, so I don't care. Or Sabrina. I've done so many Sabrina and never cared. Which is fine. It's fine. I get it. I still will dress up as until they tell me not to. But yeah, stop. We don't like you. But it was cool to see that. I was very, very excited. So cosplays have been fun. Halloween has been good, but it has been exhausting because it's just so much.

[Moses Hackman]

It is a lot.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's full production, photos and tiktoks and costumes and coordination. We have seven people coming on Wednesday and coordinating all. Just making sure everyone gets here. I don't know. I don't know where everyone's gonna sit. We only have four folding chairs. So I think we're gonna do, like, a little audience camera. I think we're gonna. We'll figure it out. It's gonna be really fun, and it'll be good Halloween episode. So I'm telling everyone to bring their favorite Halloween memory and like a hot topic for the day.

[Moses Hackman]

That's a good idea.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know what I mean? So kind of like. So it's a little bit hot topic, a little bit part interview, and then you can see everyone's fabulous costumes and very excited. Yours is pretty simple. Yours is pretty Katniss Braid bodysuit.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah. Again. Who knows if it'll fit? I have yet to fully try it on.

[Trisha Paytas]

You come as a.

[Moses Hackman]

Again, the monkeys that like, come down and attack them.

[Trisha Paytas]

Remember in the movie there's monkeys that attack them? No, do you remember monkeys attacking them?

[Oscar]

I mean, there's wild animals in.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah, the monkeys.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my God. What is this? Wicked. It's like, that's wild.

[Moses Hackman]

I think the monkey almost killed one of them. Or maybe dead.

[Trisha Paytas]

Remember the monkeys like apes or monkeys, like I think big gorillas. Or are they like little monkeys?

[Moses Hackman]

Maybe an ape, like a chimpanzee size. Okay, okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't remember it all.

[Moses Hackman]

And like. And the remember it was like all the different tick tock. It's like the arena's a clock and each. Yeah. One of the ones was like evil monkeys come to attack them. And then Katniss has to shoot them with the arrows and then they. One of them chokes Peeta under in the water.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah.

[Moses Hackman]

And then Finnick, I think, stabs one of the monkeys.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah. T, we've lost our Finick. He's in New York. Maybe he's on bony podcast. Maybe he has a Patreon billboard he's gonna go see. I don't know. He's in New York that day. So I was like, dang, Joey. I love Joey. Yeah, you should come on if he wants. I think it's funny just to like reminisce. I feel like all the questions just be about you in the strawberry era and I get a hide when people come over.

[Moses Hackman]

There are a lot of questions.

[Oscar]

Joey, we invited you to tell us more about Oscar.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I want to know. I want to know about that era. I'm just so curious what he remembers. Like, why I actually would be interested.

[Moses Hackman]

To get like his perspective on like me eating the dog biscuits at his house. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, oh, by toys.

[Moses Hackman]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

You wanted to. You like to eat them.

[Moses Hackman]

Well, that's all he had at his house.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, okay. I was trying to. I remember the story now. I was like trying to remember it. I was like, wait, what happened?

[Moses Hackman]

He forced me, sat me down and Forrest fed me his dog food.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Did he know you. You like the dog food?

[Moses Hackman]

I mean, I didn't love the dog food.

[Oscar]

He literally was getting more for you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you ask him? Were you like, can we get a little crafty in here?

[Moses Hackman]

I should have. I was too scared.

[Trisha Paytas]

I gotta restock that crafty. By the way, it was like stale and I had a bunch of people over Yesterday. So I was like, let me like, throw this away so they don't eat the stale. And there was donuts there. So we're gonna restock. We should throw the ones upstairs away too. Those chips go stale after like a few months.

[Moses Hackman]

Oh, really? The Vickies?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, they got rid of those gummies all together. No one liked those Gumm. I was like, throw. Throw them out. No one was eating them. Those are bad. Those were. Those were horrible. Actually. I won't say the brand name. They sent it to us. And I was like, this is horrible. Well, speaking of brands, is it trick or treat? You think it's a trick or a treat? We're about to pull out. Or maybe both.

[Moses Hackman]

I'm scared.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you know what it is? Guess. Let's do a guess.

[Moses Hackman]

Is it lunch league?

[Trisha Paytas]

Close.

[Moses Hackman]

Prime. The Feastables of $500. It's Feastables of $500.

[Trisha Paytas]

The next day. The next day, this comes in the mail.

[Moses Hackman]

I really think they hear.

[Trisha Paytas]

Ow.

[Oscar]

Literally have ears. Yeah, they show it up.

[Trisha Paytas]

Don't show the address.

[Oscar]

No, it's on the other side.

[Moses Hackman]

Is there 500 in there?

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, let's open it up and find out. I'm so excited. This was crazy. It took all my money not to do a tick tock. I wanted to shout out right away. I was like, I want to show this.

[Oscar]

But I was like, we're too invested in the.

[Trisha Paytas]

I still didn't want to promote it that much. Like, to do a whole tick tock.

[Oscar]

Yeah, because that's what, like, it's.

[Trisha Paytas]

This is crazy. You. Ooh. The teeth. Tell me. Wow. Did you show the logo?

[Oscar]

It's so funny.

[Moses Hackman]

Like how I love that, Rosanna, you.

[Oscar]

Do have to be an 8 year old to be like, oh, my God, there's teeth.

[Trisha Paytas]

First of all, that's cool.

[Moses Hackman]

That's right.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's sick. I wouldn't do that for merch. I love it. Okay.

[Oscar]

Oh, it is going. She open it there. More teeth.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, see, now you love it. You're like, it's fangs.

[Moses Hackman]

Wow.

[Oscar]

You can win a million dollar. It says from that scan.

[Trisha Paytas]

That seems odd. Like you have to buy something to win a million ranges.

[Oscar]

It definitely wouldn't be us or shouldn't be us. If they send it to us, we.

[Trisha Paytas]

Win the million dollars. It's giving David Dobrik puzzle. Like, buy this and you could win.

[Oscar]

It's weird. Like, there's weight to the box.

[Trisha Paytas]

We. I already took the peanut butter out. I was hungry for it. I was like, oh, give me that peanut butter. He's like, don't worry. No one will know. But this one, I really wanted to eat what comes at the bottom. I really wanted to eat this one. The cookies and cookies. I know. I saved it for us to split.

[Oscar]

Cookies and cream cook.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's the new flavor. I know. I wanted to eat it so bad. I'm like, let me save this, because I know we talked about it last time. Oh. Oh, my gosh. Wow.

[Moses Hackman]

Oh, my God. There is money.

[Trisha Paytas]

Look at that. Like, what? Why is he doing this?

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

I love this chocolate.

[Moses Hackman]

Meanwhile.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, what?

[Oscar]

Yes, the great chocolate.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, right? It kind of feels like a little bit, like, of a payoff. Like, don't talk bad about us anymore. Like, what if it's something, like in the.

[Moses Hackman]

Like, whoa.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. What if they had, like, little print, like, we gave you money so you can never talk bad about us again.

[Moses Hackman]

You know, like, opening this PR Box. Terms and conditions possible.

[Oscar]

Like, once you hand somebody money, then.

[Trisha Paytas]

It does feel a little weird.

[Moses Hackman]

Like, they're like.

[Oscar]

They're like brand new dollars.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it's weird. Is it real? They look not real. They sent cash in the mail. That's so weird. Now everyone's gonna look at the box, see if it comes from feasibles, like, start opening them up. Well, no.

[Oscar]

Which one are you more excited about, the money or the cookies?

[Trisha Paytas]

What would you pick?

[Moses Hackman]

Oh, the money, I guess you can buy with this.

[Oscar]

More of these.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's very true. That's very true. Yeah, the ones are exciting. I guess we could, like, divvy it up. Just like a little split for everybody.

[Moses Hackman]

So weird. I love that Rosanna is making them get investigated by the FBI, but here I just trans. We're like. We love the chocolate.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, is he being investigated by the FBI?

[Moses Hackman]

It's, by the way, on topic. I feel like, well, let's try this first chocolate first before we.

[Oscar]

I'll give you the honors.

[Moses Hackman]

Before we call him a criminal, let's eat the chocolate.

[Trisha Paytas]

You have, like, mean girls, like, splitting the crown to everyone else. What? Pieces for everybody. I wanted to eat this. I really did. And then I was like, no. Oscar wanted the cookies and cream. I did eat the peanut butter.

[Moses Hackman]

That's so sweet.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was like, let me wait. I really want to eat it so bad. Oh, there's more, but there's other chocolate, too. Well, split this and then o. This looks good.

[Oscar]

This is interesting. There's, like, a layer of chocolate.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know if they're all this good or if it's the PR. Wh Ones but they are so good. Stick to Feastables or. Yeah. Feles.

[Oscar]

So many names.

[Trisha Paytas]

L was trash. But Febles is really good.

[Oscar]

It's weird, I mean, cuz the first time we tried it, the first iteration of these chocolates were so bad. And then they really improved it. I have a feeling they'll do the same with Lunchly. Like there'll be a second generation L that would be much better.

[Trisha Paytas]

Let's see it. Let's hear it. What's the hot topic?

[Moses Hackman]

Well, for the lunch Le Rosanna said it allegedly is discontinued already.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not. Not available to buy anywhere.

[Moses Hackman]

Well, someone submitted her a photo. I love it. She's like the Mr. Beast like hotline like so wild we.

[Trisha Paytas]

Were talking about with Tana 2 here. After the rebrand of Rosanna Pano for Mr.

[Moses Hackman]

Beast is what it's literally been a whole year of Rosanna on Mr. Beast's neck. Because your interview was Halloween. Yeah. Oh, you're so in the grease cosplay.

[Trisha Paytas]

I remember, I remember. I think like she's gonna want to cut it. She's not problematic or anything that she's gonna want to cut it. And I remember they asked me like oh, Wednesday came out and I was like, oh, I don't, you know, like I don't know. At that time I was with you guys pre filming a bunch. I was always like way ahead. And then I was like, oh, it's gonna come out this date. I didn't know it was gonna to like launch a whole. Love it. I'm so always. I'm always so scared for her though. Cuz she like reporting the threats to F. I'm always like, like I love, love, love her. And I feel like her house is secure. She's secure. But I'm always just like a little worried. Mr. Beast does scare me in the sense that like he does seem like, I don't know, like a villain. You know what I mean? Like a. A super villain that everyone like loves President Snow vibes. No. If you're not on the good list, he's. You know what I mean? So we're trying to stay on that good list. But I also gotta support my girl Rosanna because I like love her and.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So it's okay. So. Yes.

[Moses Hackman]

So someone said, I guess they work at a grocery store. Like they. You know when you have those little like inventory like PDAs.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses Hackman]

They said that lunch leaves like in their back like information for the grocery store. It's like discontinued, won't be restocked. And it's the turkey stackum was the one that you said you couldn't even find the turkey stack. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

It wasn't. I know. There was nowhere to be found. Oh, my God.

[Moses Hackman]

All of a sudden these ones are discontinued. Says they're discontinued. The FDA responded to tmz, said that they're. They receive complaints and they're investigating lunch Lee. So it wasn't looking good. And then cut to impulsive. And like, Logan, Paul and KSI are just like, I like my cheese moldy, bro.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, she.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah, the. Yeah, like, I like my cheese moldy, bro.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yo.

[Moses Hackman]

Like, they're like joking about it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I hate Logan. I kind of love KSI, but I hate Logan. KSI. So sweet. Like, I love that he said I followed Roseanne because I had a crush on her. And he's like. And Logan's like, wait, what? What? By the way, I love Rosanna, man. I actually had like a low key crush on her. Really? Yeah.

[Moses Hackman]

Which do you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not anymore, but yeah, she looks like you or whatever. Like, it was cute. Like, and he also like. And he's like, yeah, but she's dogging your branch like letter, you know, like he was. He seems very chill. Logan's always doing too much and also like just joking about it. I'm just like, yeah, like in the grand scheme of things, like, it may just seem like a joke and it's like lighthearted Rosanna. Oh my gosh, he's coming for them. Whatever. But like at the end of day, it's like moldy cheese people are eating, which can be sick kids. And kids get really sick from it. I know one time we were at a fancy hotel and I had like bad Mac and cheese that made me like, violently sick. It was like it was the kids Mac and cheese off the room service. And then I think it's before Malibu could like eat food. So I was just eating it because, like, she. I don't think she could eat back then. She was just doing milk. But I remember I got violently sick where I was like in the, the bathroom, like throwing up, like just like all night long. And I was just thinking, thinking, like obviously was bad cheese from the kids. Mac and cheese. I'm like, I should tell them because if they're serving this to like, kids, they're going to be even worse with their like little tummies and stuff like that. So the laughing was kind of crazy because, like, it's kind of serious. Maybe you didn't know about it. Maybe Logan's like not hands on with it all, but it's also just like, maybe we don't laugh at people who could like potentially die from your foods.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah, it's so weird. Especially when he comes after anyone who ever says anything about Prime. Like, he is so like fierce with like, anyone who. I think there's like a soccer player who has bottle like looks similar so he's coming down. Anyone who like, criticized he like comes down on so hard, like sends like legal things like cease and desist and stuff if you say anything bad about it. So then now to like make a joke about your product in which you said like, oh, I'm not even trying to be greedy. I'm just trying to make a good alternative, a better alternative.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's like, okay, so dumb.

[Moses Hackman]

Like really, you just care about the money you use. Your child's birth, your first child's birth. If I was Nina Agdal and he put a lunch lead and then a moldy lunch at that next to me when I would literally kick him out of the friggin delivery.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think also because it's him, I feel like if it's like Nina's product and she's gonna do a little like, promotion, fine, like, do it. You know what I mean? But like, any other person that did not just give birth, I'd be absolutely like, no, no way are you using this right now. And she's like in it too. And the baby's like having this promo with and it's just like embarrassing because even, even if it is like for money and it goes to both of them together or whatever. Are they married?

[Moses Hackman]

I don't know if they're married. Let me see.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because even. Because I don't think they are. I think they're just engaged, which is like, fine. I'm just saying, like, she doesn't even get that money promotion probably, if it's not. I guess. Yeah, no, I guess if you're not married, you don't get like any of the money. Maybe you do. I don't know.

[Moses Hackman]

You're right. Just engage, just engage.

[Trisha Paytas]

So it's like, it's not even like it's going towards their communal bank account yet. So I'd be like, give me some of that coin if you're gonna do the promotion of all this in my birth. You know what I mean? It's like, oh, yeah, that, that's. That will always be the biggest dick. I think after that I was kind of like, no. And he's always gonna be remembered for that. You know what I mean? I think that's equally as bad as when he did the little minion hat thing in the forest, you know, whatever happened in there, which was horrible. I think it's kind of like, in the same category. Like, I don't think you're gonna, like, live that down. That's crazy. That's like, especially. You're like, your first kid. I feel like, I don't know, maybe second or third. You're just like, ah, we've done this, whatever. But the first, like, it's like, such a crazy time. I'm like, that. No, that's. That's wild. And what was it? It was lunchtime Prime.

[Moses Hackman]

The. Which one?

[Trisha Paytas]

The birth.

[Moses Hackman]

The birth was lunchly. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wild.

[Moses Hackman]

Wild. Well, it was prime as well, but also lunchly.

[Trisha Paytas]

They should have done just, like, a prime. Like, pink for the girl, whatever. I don't know, something.

[Moses Hackman]

But, like, well, that was the gender reveal. Was the prime bottles.

[Trisha Paytas]

Absolutely. I hope she got some money from it, because honestly, that's like, the biggest dick in the whole world. I'd be like, absolutely not. That's so weird. And, like, I never judge anyone. Especially, like, the person who gives birth whatever they want to do, you know, like, do it, like, if she wants to promote what. But, like, him doing it. Gross.

[Moses Hackman]

It's just weird because he. It's like, purposefully, like, trolling and rage baiting when it's supposed to be a time that you're like, you know, Even if someone, you know, when, like, with you, like, your parenthood kind of just changes you, like, right away, you know, you see your baby and it's like, damn, I want to be the best version of myself possible. So, like, this baby is proud of me. I want this baby to, you know, look at me with stars in their eyes, you know, like, be proud of their dad. And then as, like, just being a menace is insane the day you're born.

[Trisha Paytas]

I remember panicking when people were comparing Malibu to Queen Elizabeth before she was even born. And I was sad for her. I was like, oh, my gosh, she's gonna look back on her birth and see all these memes about her being the queen. I was so devastated that that was gonna be her birth. I was so sad. I was like, guys, please, this is, like, not cool. Like, at the time, I was so sad for her. I was like, this baby just came into the world. Like, let's not compare her to, like, the queen, who a lot of people hate spawn a Satan. You know, whatever people say it was. I was so sad about it. And then to see, like, him do that, I Was like, how they're gonna look back on their birth and be like, this is the lunch lady that, like, was moldy and, like, made so many people Legacy.

[Moses Hackman]

Moldy cheese.

[Trisha Paytas]

No. Awful. Awful.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah. And the fact that it's, like, not even just Rosanna, like, a lot of people are finding this moldy cheese.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right, Right. That's the thing. It's like. It was wild. Everyone's like, oh, my God, her. But then she showed the unedited of, like, opening it, and then everyone else doing it, too. And obviously they pulled it and are being investigated. And it's. It. Honestly, in one of those cases, just don't say anything. Like, why does he have to, like, laugh and, like, joke about it? Because it's like, just don't say anything. Like, like, you made a product, all your other stuff is doing fine. Just, like, be quiet about it.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah. Because I don't think Mr. Beast has said anything either. I wonder if he's, like, a little bit regretting going into business.

[Trisha Paytas]

I. Logan, shut your mouth. Guys. Don't you know anything? Get him some PR training. That I would be. And KSI, too, was so chill. Like, he. He's pretty. Like, you know, whatever. Logan's just so annoying. Like, he's just annoying. Like, when guys do. He reminds me so much of those high school boys I always talk about here at my target who laugh like, that's Logan.

[Moses Hackman]

Even though he's anything serious.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And you're like. But you're also, like, 30 and a dad now. Like, are you. That's. That's the most embarrassing thing. I just feel like, okay, these are high school boys. I still hate them, but, like, okay, hopefully they'll, like, grow up to be, like, normal, but they might just grow up to be, like, Logan Paul. Especially with all the influence of, like, Logan and Mr. Beast. Everyone, like, please don't be this. That's what I was worried with David. I feel like this David generation, like, they grew up to be kind of like, pricks like David. And I'm like, how we have. Like, we're doing this all over again. I'm like, we just need, like, guys that are.

[Moses Hackman]

I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not that. Them. Like, I don't know. Anybody else? Anybody else watch Bridgerton if you're a young boy, you know? I don't know. Find better idols. Like, don't be this, like, Harry Styles, maybe even Harry Daniels. Yeah, that's a better influence. Like, anybody but these boys. Oh, God. Like, honestly, like, I'm just glad we didn't have boys But I kind of wish I had boys so I could influence them to not be like that. To like have some good guys in this world. Do you know what I mean? I don't know. Or we have like Matt from Matt Abby podcast. My God, please don't also be that. You know what I mean? She's so worried about her like boys growing up and I'm like being hated. I'm like, well, but you're. Your husband is rage baiting. He's the leader of why people don't like these men. You know what I mean? So it's like you could be the change by your husband first. Not saying stupid stuff for views. They made me, Matt more mad than anybody. Him, Logan, Paul. Matt. Matt from Matt Naby. And those two are me. Top of my list. Dubious.

[Moses Hackman]

Well, with Mr. Beast now, Rosanna has submitted some inappropriate texts and messages that she like discovered to the FBI.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right. This one was like a little dicey to talk about, right? Like, do you think? I don't know.

[Moses Hackman]

I'm gonna go deep into it. I'm gonna go like skim the surface. If you want the full tea. Check out Rosanna's video where she like really dives into it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know, because it was like a very like weird thing because she like dives into it. I'm like, should we be diving into this?

[Moses Hackman]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know what I mean? Because I think any sort of like reviewing anything, I think it's like instantly report. Don't like go into it deeper or like anything like that. Yeah, it was a little like alarming. I was a little bit alarmed by it. I think that's what I'm saying. It gets. Oh, cuz stuff can get so dark. And I think sometimes you don't even know as someone who's like, doesn't think that way. But once you like come across like dark things, things you're just kind of like, oh my God. Okay. Like people don't know the proper way to handle it. Which is like, just go to authorities and just leave it at that point. And like, don't make a video, don't whatever. Just like I just found something crazy. Like I need to not see this. I just need to like report it. I don't know. I think that's like. So it gets like really dark in that sense.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah, yeah, I agree with you. I mean, I'm glad that she did report it to the FBI because it's crazy that that stuff is out there, I guess. Okay. From there, from Rosanna Dog packs perspective. It's a matter of. Because so many people are like, I'm not going to believe it until there's proof. You know what I mean? And so Jimmy's whole stance was, I didn't know anything that Ava Chris Tyson was up to. And then I think that was, you know, the thesis statement of the video was basically having these receipts that prove that Jimmy was aware, allegedly, of Ava Chris Tyson's, like, behavior.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I think, like, with something so sensitive, I don't think it should be like, a video. Do you know what I mean? I think it's because. Because it's actually so vile. It's almost like something that's like, just report it. Because, like, now you're spreading it more and people are curious and people are looking and they want to know all the details. And it's just like, so, so, like, monstrous. And it's like one of those things I'm like, I don't even think should be a video. It shouldn't be reviewed. You see something, right? Like, it's proven right, you prove it. Now go to the FBI. Like, you can see the things, like, whatever. Go to. I don't know. It just felt like, really, like, dark. Like, because I saw people, like, talking about it and speculating and describing what was it and all this stuff. Like, I'm just like. I just feel like it shouldn't be out there at all, you know, like, just. I don't know. Right? Or am I just like, so.

[Moses Hackman]

No, I don't. I think you make a good point. I mean, two, I think in the video, even though a lot of things were, like, censored and stuff, like, showing on the screen, I was like, this is.

[Trisha Paytas]

But they were. What I didn't see. I didn't see any. I don't want to click on it. They were, like, watching it. Like, I don't think they were just.

[Moses Hackman]

Going through screenshots of the different messages. And again, a lot of dark things involving minors and stuff. So it was all. All like, just grows and stuff that I never even heard of before. Like, different weird, like, criminal fetishes and stuff. Not just like, you know, oh, they're into something that is a little quirky. It's like, literally criminal.

[Trisha Paytas]

So this is from Ava's computer or group chat.

[Moses Hackman]

It was from a tell. There was two things. There was one where it was a telegram. So there was messages like it was a group company. That's also the kicker. It was a Mr. Beast Company telegram. Them and former employees, I guess, submitted these to Rosanna. And then Rosanna confirmed the credibility with like other former employees to prove that they were real, like work group chats, basically. So that's the other thing. It's like a company group chat that these messages, it's like just inappropriate memes and photos.

[Trisha Paytas]

And is it like proof that like, miss, like Jimmy was like on this group chat, he's interacting.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah. So that's. I think that's like again, like the thesis, I believe, is that like they prove right away that Jimmy was in him. Because I think the big message that kind of proved that it was Jimmy was it. It was kind of like a pseudonym, I think is the right word. Like it was a different name. But then there's these messages that prove that it's Jimmy where it's like he talks about his car and then says, oh, like, I can't believe my wiki feed is 4.8. And then it's like Jimmy Donaldson WikiFeet is the link that's. So it proves that there's Jimmy in there, like messaging and stuff.

[Trisha Paytas]

So, so sick.

[Moses Hackman]

It's just. And then there's some messages where he said, like, oh, I bet Ava would love this.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then from this username that's supposed to suppose.

[Moses Hackman]

Supposed to be Jimmy. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So it kind of just proves that he's sending images.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah. That at least aware. I think the message that he sent was like, oh, I bet Ava. I'm using her real name. But like, Ava would love this. And it was like an anime that deals with like underage, like relationships. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's wild. That's. Yeah, that's. Oh, God. It gets into like. Yeah, that's bad. And she did report it. She reported FBI.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So he's under. I didn't actually understand the that part of it. I saw like, he was under investigation, but I didn't know like, for what. So that's. Yeah, that's dark. That's so dark.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah. Especially at like a company, you know, a company group chat.

[Trisha Paytas]

And.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah. And then, so there was that element. And then the second kind of part was about a Discord server for like Mr. Beast and like miners were in there. But then there was a channel in the Discord that was NSFW where it was like weird, like, sexual memes and stuff. And then it was like these 13 year, 13, 14 year olds were like, I don't know if, like this channel should be in this discord because like, some, like some of us are underage and we can see it. And Ava was just like, well, we can't just Delete it. Like, just don't look at it.

[Trisha Paytas]

But then, oh, my God, where's she at now?

[Moses Hackman]

She kind of just disappeared. I don't know. Yeah. It is so dark. And even when all this, like, first started, too, I'm like, damn. Like, I didn't want to believe it, especially because she's trans. And there's so much, like, terrible, like, rhetoric around trans people. It's like, no, like, this is, like, a monster person and a parent, too. Like, oh, I didn't know. Yeah, she has a child.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm, like, always speechless. 1. I, like, have nothing to add in the sense, like, I mean, it's a good thing to talk about, but, like, I don't. I don't know. I don't even know what to add to it.

[Moses Hackman]

I.

[Trisha Paytas]

So, like. Because it just goes so much deeper than. It's like, this whole other thing where it's just, like, not, you know, moldy cheese is relatively light compared to this. You know what I mean? Which is, like, sad to say, because, like, moldy cheese is actually so dangerous. But damn, they should definitely issue. Well, he has issued a. Like, a disavowment with Ava when the allegations first surface.

[Moses Hackman]

When was that? Over the summer, I think. Right? Yeah. Jimmy issued, like, a statement that was basically saying, I was just made aware of these allegations. I didn't know about them before.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, so she's trying to prove, like, he didn't know.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah, that's the whole thing that they're trying to prove right now.

[Trisha Paytas]

People always do that. David did that too, with Dom. Like, I had no idea, but I was just like, you, like, did, you know? Like, it's. It is. It's the worst. I mean, I guess you have to at least try to save yourself. But it, like, does come out. People like. But you still were with Dom after these came out you. After, you know, all the stuff like that. Like, and he did. I mean, he filmed a lot of it. So it's like, what? Like, how did you not know? But, well, darkness always comes to light, you know, like, that bad behavior, which is like. I guess the good thing about social media, when you see, like, the stuff with, like, P. Did, you're just like, a lot of these guys. Like, you're just like, oh. Like, they probably thought it was gonna be hidden forever, like, to get away with this stuff forever, you know, because, like, the P. Diddy stuff came out too, and it's like. It's just, like, wild. The, like, lore that keeps adding to that. Not even Lord, just, like, disgusting Stuff that happened. And I guess they just thought it was going to be like, hidden probably because there was no social media back then or something. So they thought it'd be hidden forever. But this is extra dumb. Like, obviously they're like perverts that are just like. Just like, they're like evil. But it's like, also you're in the age of social media. So, like, what. What do you. What?

[Moses Hackman]

Like, it wasn't that long ago. I think the. It was like 2016, 2018 were like the two eras. And like, Jimmy was already really famous. I think around that time, Rosanna said he was already getting like hundreds of millions of views.

[Trisha Paytas]

So it's so sick. And then it's like, also sick to do it so publicly. Like in with group chat with Faith fans. Like, it's just like a whole other level. Like, what were you thinking? And yeah, anytime that ever happens with people, like, I don't know why, like, people engaging with fans in that way, anything sexual is just like, very odd. But then also, obviously when it becomes like this kind of stuff, why. Why are they like all underage? I get it. You have like, young fans. But it's like, why are you chatting with like, underage fans? Like, that's especially when the, when the 13 year olds are like, hey, we're 13. Like when they're saying it, like, like, how is that. How old is ava?

[Moses Hackman]

She is 28, I believe. Yeah, it was. I don't know. I have no idea how that is going to pan out.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, and like, they know for sure it was him. Like, I just don't because I would be like, oh, he's a piece of. Like, I'm not like, trying to, like, save him, but like, just for sure, he was in those chats for sure.

[Moses Hackman]

I mean, or just.

[Oscar]

Yeah, because even back then when Eva was put on the spot, they showed that he was part of it.

[Trisha Paytas]

And Jimmy.

[Oscar]

Yeah, the Jimmy was there and they showed that, you know, because she had the, you know, CP artwork on her wall featured in Jimmy's videos. They're standing by, they're talking about it. So.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my gosh.

[Oscar]

He was definitely aware of everything that was.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my gosh.

[Oscar]

I think it's like, you know, it's kids that grow into a company, but they still act like kids and they have all the power. So they feel like they're invisible, invincible, and they can do whatever they want.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I feel like this is just something. There's like a universal thing where it was like, never. Okay. You know, because people Say they're age the time. But I feel like throughout time, this has never been okay. Like, you know, the CP stuff. Like, never once has anyone like, this is acceptable. This was the time. Like, that's never been.

[Oscar]

That's why the people that think that it's occasionally find each other.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because they don't think anything's wrong with it.

[Oscar]

No, because they need to be around people that think alike because otherwise they'll be called out. And, you know, because there probably were people be like, this is wrong. I'm leaving. Oh, this is wrong. Don't do it next to me.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, it's crazy because, like, they're friends. But I mean, even if it was like, someone related to me, I'd still be like, I'm never talking to you again. Like, that's so crazy that he would just not only, like, see it, but, like, engage with it. Like, it just. It doesn't make sense. And in that case, we should throw out these feasibles because that's, like, really bad. Actually. Like, when I'm thinking about, I'm like, I didn't know. I guess I didn't know that it was like, proven that he knew about this. So it's kind of like.

[Moses Hackman]

It's like. I guess it's still alleged because he hasn't said anything. Yeah, there hasn't been, like, a response. And like, they only have these messages that like, kind of contextually with, like, you can infer, based on the context of like, what is in the messages, that it is Jimmy. But, you know, it doesn't say, hey, I'm Mr. B. I guess me, Jimmy. Mr. B. An apology from Rosanna. As a response to Rosanna stuff.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, because, you know, not. I mean, I'm not really into. Because it's very, very different. But like, when the colleagues have happened and like, her friend was holding it, like, obviously you could say, like, oh, it was Photoshop, whatever. But then she sent the email being like, sorry. Like, Like, I was, you know, I was. Whatever she said. I forgot the word she used. But she was just like, oh, I'm a coward. Yeah, I was a coward. I should have told you. Like, she just. Basically, she just admitted to it. So then I was wondering if there was something like that where he's just like, yeah, that was some. Something stupid. I shouldn't have done it. But he hasn't said anything that.

[Moses Hackman]

No, I think right now it was just like, based on the context of the messages that kind of proved this username was like, Jimmy. And then also I think Rosanna said that she has reached out to former Mr. Beast employees to prove the validity of it, with which I can't even imagine how many, like, because, I mean, she does do her, like, due diligence, you know, so I'm sure that especially this is. It's so, like you said, dark and, like, explosive that you can't really just do this, like, willy nilly.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I think for her, too, it's like, I worry because it's like anyone who, like, investigates that, like, it has to just like. I mean, it goes into your personal life. Like, you start feeling these things. You start, like, taking it on. Like, you know, even talking about it, you're just like. I'm just like, oh, it's like, so disgusting. And, like, you just feel gross. So it's like, yes, you're doing it for, like, I guess, like, the greater good. Right? Like, you're exposing something that maybe would have been exposed, but also at, like, what cost, you know what I mean? Because, like, it has to eat at her and her soul and like, all stuff like that. I don't know. And I really do love her and it's just like, oh, God. It's just a hard thing to watch. But, I mean, I guess the stuff wouldn't come to light if it wasn't for her, you know, all this, like, stuff. But. Well, at least now I guess if there's like, FBI, they can actually track, like, IPS and stuff, right? They can see if he was in the chat. Can they? I don't know.

[Moses Hackman]

I think so. Because nothing is ever, like, gone forever. I think the Discord server, they said that, like, they scrubbed a lot of it so they didn't like Rosanna and Dog Pack. I. Sorry, I can't say the name without. Former Mr. Beast employee that kind of is teaming up with Ro on all these videos to kind of, you know, inside the.

[Trisha Paytas]

He needs to, like, say something or say a statement or something. Like, I feel like it gets, like, so out of control when you don't. I get not saying stuff, but also, like, say something.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah. I mean, it's been like an avalanche of, like, the show, the multi cheat, now this. I'm like, damn. It'll be interesting to see, like, what he says, what YouTube does. Like, that is YouTube's gold. Maybe Jimmy steps down, you step up as YouTube's golden child.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Be the pink pony. There you go. That. That is so wild. It's giving very. Like, Pewdiepie. When he lost everybody their ads in 2017, the adpocalypse was because he. What was. It was something. Was it something with the Fiverr where he had people.

[Oscar]

Yeah, well, he. He wanted to show that you can make them do anything. So I think it was. He made them write something inappropriate.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then all the ads went away after that. Everyone was like, we can't advertise. Cuz that was PewDiePie. He was like the biggest. He was the Mr. Beast at the time.

[Moses Hackman]

Came under fire for posting videos that YouTube deemed anti Semitic and hate speech. These included references and jokes about hit Indian men holding a sign, see? Dating to all Jews.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah, that was wild. And people kind of just went past it.

[Moses Hackman]

Whoa, that's crazy. Why would he do that?

[Trisha Paytas]

You don't remember that? That was crazy.

[Oscar]

It was not the message that they wrote, but the fact that they're writing it. We don't even know what they're writing and that they were doing.

[Trisha Paytas]

I see, but you also don't know. Like, you also don't know. I mean, that's the thing. It's like, people can assume that, but like, can they? Because that's a wild thing to write.

[Oscar]

Like, yeah, like, why write that? Right? Pee. Pee.

[Trisha Paytas]

Poo poo, yes. Anything else with that? It's actually wild that he wasn't banned off YouTube because. What? What do you mean? You're gonna say to all? You know what I mean? Like, that's actually insane. And they're kind of like, okay, no ads, but that's it. Everyone gets punished.

[Moses Hackman]

And then he came after you.

[Trisha Paytas]

What year was that?

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah, this was 2017.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Literally like a year later, he's trying to cancel me for ghosting Nikocado Avocado. That's what it was. Wait, what? Like, actually, when you read all that stuff, I was kind of like, wait. And that wasn't just like one incident. One. It was like, very calculated. He's the biggest YouTuber at the time, and YouTube does absolutely nothing.

[Oscar]

They're just like, all right, well, they canceled everyone's ads.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, everyone is losing ads, but we'll keep PewDiePie here. That's actually wild. Guys can literally say anything like that. Like, that's actually why. Oh, my God. That's crazy. I don't want to get into it. Like, it actually makes me so upset because I'm just like, I. I don't even want to compare, but I'm just like, that's actually insane.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah, it is crazy too. Because if he's making people on Fiverr, I also don't like the idea of, like, paying, like, people on fiverr who are just trying to, like, make a living. And, like, it's making them, like, dance like a little toy or something and, like, humiliate them for your video. What?

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, even if you said what your thesis was, it was like, oh, you can make them do anything. That's so degrading into itself. It's just like, watch. Like, look at these people, what they do for $5. It's like, yeah. But also the message he's writing. Like, why? Why, like, why are you writing that?

[Moses Hackman]

They don't know. And then that gets out right then that also, like, could ruin their lives.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Like, them people come and, like, find them, and they're out there forever. I wish we had this podcast back then, because now I'm really thinking. I know. I'm like, really? Like, actually, that's way worse than I actually even remember it. And it's. It's kind of giving that same vibe. It's like the David. I mean, at least David, like, took himself off YouTube. So at least he's, like, on Snapchat now. Where all the scum go. But it's like, these people. Yeah, they really do get lifted and kind of PewDiePie, too. He still gets, like, a lot of, like, love. I don't know. People don't care. When it's a guy. It's like, it's a joke. He's. He's funny. He's a comedian. It's like a girl. It's like, oh, my gosh.

[Moses Hackman]

Like, yeah. It's literally like the moldy cheese. Moldy lipsticks from Jaclyn Hill.

[Trisha Paytas]

And Jaclyn Hill was canceled forever for her mold. Her fuzzy lipsticks, fuzzy lips. And now the moldy cheese is like, it's funny. Roseanne is cute. That's why I followed her. Like, it's very weird. It's. I hate. I hate the patriarchy. I hate it. I actually hate it. Oh, my gosh. It's actually wild and, like, living through that. I just remember. And I remember all the ads got taken away because of PewDiePie. Because, like, I think Coca Cola or something was, like, advertising on that video. Pepsi. So it's like this huge thing, and they're supporting it. It's like you get a Pepsi ad and then middle of what he wrote in Pepsi. Love Pepsi. But they kind of had some questionable marketing. They're very much like, I guess they didn't know they were on a PewDiePie video. But we love you, too. But also wild. Wow. Wow.

[Moses Hackman]

Devils among.

[Trisha Paytas]

Actually, I called Mr. Beast being the Devil amongst us. Like last year before Rosanna. Yeah. I was like, david Dobrik vibes for sure. Might be worse now that we're hearing all this.

[Moses Hackman]

Like, actually, yeah. Thinking about it, I'm like, damn.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. We gotta throw them out, guys.

[Moses Hackman]

We might have to.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's wild. I retract what I said.

[Moses Hackman]

They may be good.

[Oscar]

But scan the code though.

[Trisha Paytas]

See if it's. He's really distracting us. He's really. It really is Hunger Game status. Yeah, they're really trying to like wave shiny things at us. Like, here, look at all this bread I'm throwing you. Like, you know what? It's very. Yeah, it's very Hungry games. That's very interesting. Don't distract us, Mr. Beast. Yikes. Yikes. Wow. I hate the Mr. B sec. I don't mind him. We can talk about it. But it's like that I actually like. It's kind of something. It's like. It's like I do with like politics. Like, I scroll past because, like, truly I can't handle it. Like, my body will like.

[Moses Hackman]

No, I start to.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know what I mean? Like, physically react when people are like, if this person's president, this will happen. And then I just start getting like these physical reactions where I like can't think about it because it's like, oh my God, if that happened, then like, what. Where do we go? We move out of the country. Like, what do we do? Like, it's. Then I start like actually like hyper lady. So I don't do it out of like privilege. It's more of just being like, I need.

[Moses Hackman]

Protecting mental health.

[Trisha Paytas]

Protecting mental health. Because I have.

[Oscar]

It's not a good thing to constantly talk about the negative things because we just bring them more into the consciousness and into light and into being. It actually becomes part of our life. When like you said, if Didi got caught, he's in the jail. Let the judges do the work. Let them find the thing. But if we talk about it all the time.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, it's also good, I guess, when like people who have like a first hand story come out more. The more it comes out, the better.

[Oscar]

But not everyone. Like, we don't need to re. Like re. Talk. Re Experience constantly.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, like when the David stuff is happening, I was like, let me just like reiterate my story too, because it just like amplifies the voice for sure. I definitely think that. I think if you've been a victim of Mr. Beast or Ava, like, definitely, like, you should come forward if you feel comfortable because I think it amplifies the. What's happening. But it's. It's. Yeah, it's a lot. It's a lot for me. Like, I have to scroll past it because I'm like. I don't know. It's just, like, it makes me so angry because at the end of the day, like, so much, like, doesn't get done about it, and so much justice doesn't get served. And they do get, like, a slap on the wrist. I mean, in comparison, I guess PewDiePie wasn't, like, harming like. Like children. I mean, it was wild and, like, hateful. But this stuff is, like, a whole other level. And it just, like, makes me sad that, like, sometimes, like, justice doesn't get served or they just get a slap on the wrist or, you know, Ava made all this money with Mr. Beast and now can just, like, retire and, like, doesn't need to be out there and, like. But doesn't get any real repercussions from it. So. I don't know. It's a lot. That's why we have no straight guys. I would say no to Mr. Beast. He's up there, too. I would say no to Mr. Beast if there was. If there was three people. Elon Musk, Mr. Beast. Logan Paul was another one.

[Moses Hackman]

Or Matt from Matt for Matt Nabi.

[Trisha Paytas]

Absolutely not. Stop DMing me. I don't want to come on your podcast. I always get DMs, and I always talk so bad about them. There was a podcast.

[Oscar]

Cast is like, well, they rage bait. They would love to.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. Oh, James Charles said he loved me on Live the other day. A recent one. Did you see it? It's so funny. He's like, I really like Trisha. I know she doesn't like me, and that's totally fine, but I was like, oh, you kind of feel bad. I'm like, I know. I. Like, maybe part of me is like.

[Moses Hackman]

We don't dislike you. We dislike what your actions.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And there's only one time that you said something happened. And the. Yeah, it's hard for me to get past, but I feel for him. I feel for him a little bit. I feel like he. Sometimes I see compilations of, like, James Charles moments that, like, stay in my head forever. And it's like, moments I don't. I've never seen before. And it's just.

[Moses Hackman]

He has a charm. He does. That's. I've always said that it's hard to like. You know, I get why people are on board with him because he has A charm.

[Trisha Paytas]

The charm is a wild word because, like, David Dobrik has a charm where just like, he's so cute.

[Moses Hackman]

David Dover does have a charm, but James is. His charm is so outrageous.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think it's more like you kind of feel bad, but, like, kind of like, me too. You kind of like, oh, Trish. Like, you know, I feel bad for her.

[Moses Hackman]

You have a charm.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think that's a charm. I think that's like a sympathy vote. And not to say James is thriving. Money and, like, I'm not. It's nothing about, like, him. His looks, nothing like that. But there's just so many moments. There's one where he, like, literally is like someone's filming him running through my. Oh, my God, we gotta go. And then he, like, literally falls on his face. And it's like, not on purpose. And it's just like. I guess it's kind of like, oh, like, you know, I kind of feel bad, you know? Or the one where everyone was, like, clowning them when they're singing the. Why don't you say so? Do you remember? They were, like, going back and forth a duet, and then they're like, I got the Gucci shoes. And he's like. It's very like, oh, my God. There's just so many moments. I've seen too many James Charles moments. I get why people like him because he's still persevering. Persevering despite, like, being a little cringe, you know, and I'm a little cringe, you know, but like, in a different way. In a very different way than James Charles. But it kind of made me feel sad when I saw him alive. And I was like, oh, God, he is somebody I would champion and root for all the way. But I just think that, like, one little incident that I'm just like. It's hard for me to, like. I don't know if I can quite get over that. But, yeah, it's more of a personal thing that I can't get over it. You know what I mean? Because it's. It runs deep to me. But anyways, I have a little more empathy for him than James or than Logan and Mr. Beast.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah. Because I think of at least James. I actually don't think James would ever have, like, a moldy product, but if he did, I think that he would. He would definitely apologize and I think he would laugh about it in maybe two years, but in the moment.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. Jaclyn Hill still doesn't laugh about her fuzzy Lipsticks. She does.

[Moses Hackman]

I mean, she really got canceled. She was like kind of at the top, right? I mean, she was up there.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's always when you're at the top. That's why we're still staying humble. Yeah, we maybe get recognized by Ariana Chapel, Cynthia and Olivia, but we're still saying humble. You know what I mean? We don't. We're not. We're not going to the top yet. You know what I mean? We like to stay here.

[Moses Hackman]

Yes, it's comfortable. We'll stay on an island.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I like to be on the island. Not. Tati's also not invited. Those are my five, four.

[Moses Hackman]

Really?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I know we go back and forth with this, but. No, absolutely not. Because she still was blaming James. Like, the 17 year old pursued me. I was like, girl, listen to yourself. And this is in 2024, her saying this. I was like, girl, have you learned nothing, Tati? How can a 17 year old pursue you and you just give in? Like, no. What? That doesn't. That doesn't happen. Like, he's 17. Like 13 year olds always DM me. I never respond. Like, that's weird. Even though. Hi. Hi. Hi. I'm not gonna respond. That's so odd. But much less. You're gonna be. Have a whole friendship with him and like, say you're his mother and then stab him in the back like, she's the worst. But anyways, most his birthday today. Happy birthday.

[Moses Hackman]

Oh, today she did a birthday.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God, I've been so focused on Halloween and your actual birthday when this. His birthday is tomorrow, but we're like, wait. Yeah, but I was so focused on, like, trying to get something, which I think the surprise is rude. I had a big surprise plan for him, but we did a podcast yesterday and he checked my phone during the podcast because he just wants to see, like, if there's something urgent I have to check. So I know he saw. And the. The thing it is is like in the title. And I was like, oh, no.

[Oscar]

But the thing is, I didn't really thought about it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, now you thought about it.

[Oscar]

But then you kept asking me, did you see something? You see something? I was like, think about it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, he checked it.

[Oscar]

I was like, no, but I didn't even check.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, it's fine. It's still not ruined. It'll still be fun. But I was so busy, like, thinking about that and then Halloween and like all this stuff like that. Because then we have another big Halloween episode. So his birthday falls on a Tuesday. We film on Monday, Wednesday. And then this weekend was crazy because we had the Halloween festival, the Petra shoot. And then Sunday, we had Tana Holly. We did the photo shoot, the podcast, and then today. And then we had the Patreon thing. We have to do a Patreon thing after this. And then tomorrow's your birthday days a week. Yeah. Usually we go up to a hotel for his birthday. This one we've been going every year, and we just, like, literally, physically couldn't do it this year. And I was, like, so sad about it, but. Happy birthday.

[Moses Hackman]

Happy birthday.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sad. We should have made this your birthday episode.

[Oscar]

Well, we have. We. I mean, this is more than.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, bab. But you always make birthday so special. Here. I'm so. Oh, my God, I'm such a flop wife. I really am.

[Oscar]

No, but my birthday is tomorrow. My birthday is my. When you guys watch this, we will be celebrating my actual birthday.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm so sad. I'm sorry. I really am. No, I'm such a flop when it comes to, like, birthdays. Moses, like, so thoughtful, so considerate. And I. I have nothing. But I did think of something this year. I was super excited to surprise him because I was like, wow, I planned something. And then I was like, oh, he saw it. But it's cool. There's one more surprise that you don't know about.

[Moses Hackman]

See, there you go.

[Trisha Paytas]

There is little one.

[Oscar]

Like, I'm more excited now.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar]

That I have a glimpse of, like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Knowing what it is.

[Oscar]

Something. Yeah. Like, to me, it's more exciting. I'm looking forward to it.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's something he always talks about doing. And I was like. And I've always been like, maybe. I don't know. Then I was like, okay, this will be, like, the perfect time to do it, so. All right. Also, be a happy birthday. I am sad. I'm sorry. I should start at the top of the show. Jimmy. At the top of the show. Tell them. Skip to an hour and 40 minutes in for the happy birthday. And I made you dress as wicked. It could have been one of your costumes.

[Moses Hackman]

You should yell at him for not knowing the words.

[Oscar]

This is my favorite from all the ones we've did so far.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm so sorry. Oh, my God. Yeah, this looks good. Okay, what's the lyric? Woes are fleeting, bows are glancing as.

[Oscar]

You'Re dancing life away Clothes, we'll give it to you.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's your birthday. Do you know it?

[Moses Hackman]

Dancing through life.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. So close. Babes.

[Oscar]

Last week.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, you have a hot topic. Well, that's a different act, babe. Different act, too. Not in this movie.

[Moses Hackman]

Circle back next year.

[Trisha Paytas]

God, that's crazy. Yeah, It's a whole year away. Jonathan Bailey doesn't repost anything. Wicked. That's so. I mean, he should at least repost your costume. I mean, you're literally him. This is the first Jonathan Bailey as Fiero costume I've seen. Like, I haven't seen anyone else do this costume. So he should. He should repost you.

[Oscar]

So what does he post if he's not?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think the milk pictures.

[Moses Hackman]

Oh, the milk.

[Trisha Paytas]

Him and his Fiero boots with nothing.

[Oscar]

He was like, it's not in my contract. I'm not posting.

[Moses Hackman]

A couple weeks ago, that's true.

[Trisha Paytas]

He was in the news. I got dragged on Twitter for commenting. All I commented was, oh, and it was a hot topic. It was literally like on every pop cray pop basing. It's like, Jonathan Bailey says he's posed in nothing but his Fiero boots. And I just said, oh. And all the comments. If you look on the Twitter, for real, Twitter kind of likes me at the moment. But all the comments, like, you're married. What about Moses? I was like, what? Like, taking his sexuality away. It's like, also, he's like. Like, he's Jonathan Bailey. Like, what? Like, everyone loves him. He's gonna be the people sexiest man alive. I'm predicting November 1st. Like, I just, you know, like, what? That's like saying, like, oh, Brad Pitt. Oh, he's only in his boots. Wow. Drool face emoji. And everyone's like, watch. You have a husband. Like, what?

[Oscar]

Actually see you as an equal equivalent to him. That it can actually happen, that they.

[Trisha Paytas]

Think I'm gonna be at his level. He's gonna want to date me. He's just gonna be like, I'm switching teams for you, Trish. Like, yeah, I don't know that's happening, but that's weird. And everyone, like, universally likes him. Like, it's not like, it's a niche thing. Like, a niche person. Like Brian Jordan Alvarez, where I'm like, I love him so much. Got his phone number, by the way. I'm so scared to text him, though. I just. So I'm like, no, you have to.

[Moses Hackman]

We have to go. Teacher season two.

[Trisha Paytas]

I've been like, I know. I've been like, he texted me and I was like, hey, now it's not the time. It's the weekend. I'm like, okay, now it's Monday. I'm like, oh, he's working. And then I was like, oh, it's Halloween week. Like, I can't. Like, I'm very nervous. It's Halloween.

[Oscar]

She text me on Halloween week.

[Trisha Paytas]

I can't text you on Halloween week. I can't. I just. I was very excited, but. But people really came for me. I was like, everybody, like, loves, by the way, Brian, Jordan Alvarez is also a sexy icon. But I'm just saying, like, in general, everyone talks about Jonathan Bailey being hot. So it's not like I'm this niche person that's, like, contacting him or whatever. I did try to DM him. He left me on. He hasn't read it yet. Left me on scene. But he said that he and this hot topic. I can talk about it. I know we said we're not talking about the Bailey, but he's a hot topic. He said that he went to go for his hero fitting and all they had were boots. So he had to do the fitting and just his boots. And he said he has a picture, but he said no one is going to see it. He should sell it if he wants. Consensually, of course, but I think that would get so much. Oh, my God.

[Moses Hackman]

And I mean, this was an interview he did for, like, the official, like, Wicked. Like, you know, it was on the Wicked account. So it's like, it's called, like, the epk. I don't know what.

[Trisha Paytas]

The Electronic Press Kit.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah. But so I guess it's like, for Universal, like, it's in house, basically, because it was posted to the Wicked account. So it's not like, you know, he was pressured to reveal this information, like, another outlet. So, like, me at the Wicked premiere being like. So.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was like, so can you describe what this picture looks like in detail? No. They're like, we want this. They know. They know how to market the movie. You know what I mean? Because the girls and gays will definitely go see it already, obviously, for Arinthia, Ariana and Cynthia. And it's like. Well, I mean, that's like a little man. Yeah, Yeah. I came and talked. I feel like I saw him. I probably, like, couldn't talk. But do you think it's real or do you think they just make up these stories to make it sound sexy? Like, there's no way. He's like, all right, let me try the boots on. With nothing. I mean, has to wear, like, jeans or something with it.

[Moses Hackman]

I don't know. I think that I could see him doing it. He's a cheeky little fellow, you know, he's very flirtatious.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses Hackman]

So I could see Him. And it's very, like a gay thing to do to be like. Like, especially on Twitter and stuff. I just took the hottest photo of me. My schlong looks amazing. But you'll never see it. They all do that equivalent. Marry that. And then they get, like, all the supplies. Oh, my God. Let me see. Let me see. It's like, I mean, whatever makes you feel hot and confident. Do. And I feel like that's. That's kind of what Jonathan Bailey's up to. Is like, really good in these boots. You're never going to see it.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's the people spread and him and his boots. Just. Honestly, that'd be wild. I have a feeling he's going to get it right.

[Moses Hackman]

I feel like if. I think he would be one of the ones in the running, I honestly could.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's going to be the COVID I have to. I mean, this is his year. Like the Emmys, the tv. TV show, the Bridgerton, Fellow Travelers and Wicked. I mean, I'm sorry, It's like, dominates Pedro Pascal. Yes. Great. And he has a big movie coming up, but it's kind of like one big movie. Like Last of Us was last year. Was it Last of Us? Yeah. Or is that the one. What's the Justin Baldoni one?

[Moses Hackman]

It ends.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, there's so many of those. There's so many. And like, this is us. There's just so many. I hate that. I hate those titles. But. But, like, that was like last year, whatever. And then the Mandalorian was a couple years ago, but this is like all in one year. And it's just kind of like, iconic. I feel like he should get it. And they've never had a gay sexiest man, which is like the most wild thing because. I'm sorry. Like you said, gay men, they do put out the thirst traps no matter how famous they are. Like, Ricky Martin. And I was just like, I love that Ricky Martin is so famous and he's still like, like, with his shirt off. I was just like, they serve. No straight man could do that. I wish they would. Straight men are always like, let me see. You know what? Those treatment are weird. They're like, let me just see your butt. I was like, don't you want to see the full. Like, we want to see the Ricky. The face, the body of Ricky Martin. Like, it looks so good. Like, gay guys just know how to take the selfie. You know what I mean? The straight guys definitely don't ever. It's when straight guys try to pose. It's so. It's cringe when they're like in the mirror and they're just like, straight and they're just. They're so serious. And I was like, the worst photo you could possibly take. Like, it's so awful. But I love gay men thirst traps. I love it so much because they just know how to take it. Like, what? Seeing Ricky Martin's, I was like, yes, absolutely. Like, that was. That was everything. Where did he post on this? Like, Instagram.

[Moses Hackman]

I saw it on his Twitter read. Probably Instagram too. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

He wanted the comments. I love it. It was. Yeah. It's so good. So I think Jonathan Bailey would win. That's my prediction. And fast forward, everyone be like, trisha predicted this. I love when people say that. When it's like a 50, 50 chance it would happen.

[Moses Hackman]

Like, she knew.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah. Someone's like, she predicted brownie chicken. I was like, we all did. We all knew that was coming. But I like, you can still think I'm predicting things. I'm right most of the times. Yeah. I loved it. I love it. Like you said, I love that. That's like the effect official, like, teaser, like, for the Jonathan Bailey, for Fiero. I was like, that's. That was a good one. The men of Wicked pose just in their boots. That's a good, like, charity one. Just everyone, like, I love that that Universal, like, put that out because Wicked, I thought, I think of kind of like wholesome family. Not that that's like, not. But I just think of it as like Disney almost, where it's like. I guess it's not. It's like Universal, which is very different than Disney. But I love Universal Studios. We have to go to the Experience. Yeah, go see.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you go? You went to Horror Night? Oh, you didn't see it, though? No, it wasn't up yet.

[Moses Hackman]

No. And it's like late, so, like Horror nights, like at 8pm so that was the food. The regular stuff is closed. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really? What do they eat there?

[Moses Hackman]

There's in CityWalk, maybe, like the restaurants and stuff, but the in Universal, it's like all this, like, even, like the Minions, like, cafe is closed.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, really?

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah. Oh, so there's food, but only select, like, spots.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like what?

[Moses Hackman]

They have, like, spooky stuff. They have like a little. The Ghostbuster Ghost that, you know, that guy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Which one? The green one or the marshmallow?

[Moses Hackman]

The marshmallow man. Oh, yeah, Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think Ghostbusters Donut. So I know all the characters. Yeah. Like, oh, which one? There's a green one and A white one.

[Moses Hackman]

They have like a s'mores of him. They have Chucky the doll. Like popcorn.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you get any of that?

[Moses Hackman]

I got a churro.

[Trisha Paytas]

Which one? What was it themed?

[Moses Hackman]

Why do you reckon?

[Trisha Paytas]

A spooky one.

[Moses Hackman]

Oh, the lines are so long.

[Trisha Paytas]

Universal, if you could send over some spooky stuff for us for our Halloween episode. God, that sounds so good. Chucky popcorn or a s'mores marshmallow man. Please, please, please.

[Moses Hackman]

A lot of cool looking stuff.

[Trisha Paytas]

I will say we love you, Universal. We do. Honestly, Universal over Disney. I'm just going to say it. I pick it. They have Wicked. They have the spooky. We love you. Oh, my God, please send. God, please send. Chucky popcorn. That's cool. So was it like a little Chucky box or.

[Moses Hackman]

It was like a. Almost like a popcorn bucket of Chucky. Oh my God, I want it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I haven't seen anyone post that. That's so cool.

[Moses Hackman]

I think Tana and McColla got it last night.

[Trisha Paytas]

Last night after the podcast. It was like 9 o'clock and she had to go to Horror Nights and I was like, oh, my God, girl. What? Like, it was crazy. Oh, so they went last night and they got it?

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah. Macoa was posing on Tana's Instagram story. Breaking news, the Chucky popcorn thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, really? I gotta see it. All right. That's so exciting. I knew she was gonna go. Oh, I didn't know she also hates rides. She hates. I was like, yeah, I mean, it's the worst. So she's like, they went early and then she was gonna go after. Oh, my God, that's so wild. I guess I should go. But you know, they were talking about that Mia Goth movie. What is it Maxine? Why did they do Amaze for her? Isn't she Universal? Right?

[Moses Hackman]

I think it's a 24. But they filmed it at Universal because, like at the back lot they were in the psycho house and stuff. Like they were filming the movie. Like in Maxine, the plot is they're filming a movie on the Universal lot. Cause she's like becoming an actress.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I see. It's like the third. They were explaining the lore, but I don't really know the lore of Maxine.

[Moses Hackman]

But I guess, yeah, it's the third in the trilogy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I almost was gonna be Pearl for Halloween because it's kind of an easy costume, but.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, you still can. You have a couple days left just on your own. TikTok that you don't have. I know. We only have One more costume. But you know we're gonna finish strong, so. I love Universal. I wish I could go. I'm scared of all those things I'm scared of.

[Moses Hackman]

It is a lot. Yeah, it is a little scenario. Sensory overload.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love the backlog. It's my favorite thing in the whole world. One day I'll film something there. Maybe it's Lopez.

[Moses Hackman]

You have filmed something there on the back lot.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah, I have. I did my own music video. I did wonder last. Even though I got cut. That's it. But I'll do more. It'd be so fun.

[Moses Hackman]

I have. These are. I have two of stories randomly. Actually. No. We have to get into the Timothee Chalamet lookalike contest first.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was like on the top of my list.

[Moses Hackman]

Two hours in. We have so much to discuss.

[Trisha Paytas]

So much.

[Moses Hackman]

The Timothy Shalom lookalike contest in New York, which was. It was crazy because it was being shut down by the police when Timothy Chalamet showed up. It looked like a lot was going on.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did people. You think people knew Timothy Chalamet would show up?

[Moses Hackman]

I think people had just hoped that. So there was. That's why it was like this fan made event, right. Where these flyers are posted in New York for I think this past month was like Timothee Chalamet lookalike contest cash prize of 50. 50.

[Trisha Paytas]

I thought it was 50, 000.

[Moses Hackman]

It was 55. Zero.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Wow. People came out. I mean, 50 is a lot. But like what?

[Moses Hackman]

I think the gag of it all, like a Timothy Shalomay lookalike contest. Like, you're just curious, right? So many people showed up that the police had to come. And like we're trying to shut it down just because literally like hundreds of people showed up for this contest.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like the lookalike. There were 100 lookalikes.

[Moses Hackman]

No, just hundreds of people came to see the lookalikes. But the girls are trying to find someone who's like, even someone was like, there was a lesbian that was just walking through. And then Team Vogue was like, oh, are you here for like trying to do an interview on the street? Are you here for the Timothy. I mean, lookalike contest? And they were like, I guess I can be. So then they just like walked in and entered. It looked wild. It was crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

There was some that look just like him, though.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah, I guess it's not hard to look like Timothee Chalamet because there's a lot of people that look like a.

[Trisha Paytas]

Lot of have like the face even, like, I Get the curly hair, whatever.

[Moses Hackman]

I'm gonna have that.

[Trisha Paytas]

But some of the faces look just like him.

[Moses Hackman]

I was like, wait, maybe bone structure and stuff.

[Trisha Paytas]

I wonder if that makes him feel good or like less important.

[Moses Hackman]

Tea. I feel like it probably makes him feel good because it's like, damn, look at all these people who want to.

[Trisha Paytas]

Be like, want to be me. But then you see everyone that looks like you're like, oh, man. I thought, yeah, because to me he has like a unique face. But then I saw everyone else, I was like, oh, well, a lot of people have that face, I guess. But I was like, I'm like, he kind of looks odd. You know what I mean? But then I'm like, oh, a lot of people look like that in a cute way. But like, obviously, you know. Yeah, he's not like a.

[Oscar]

She'll be happy that he's the one that made it. Out of all those people that look.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like that, he's like, I'm the talented woman. That is interesting, huh? Who won?

[Moses Hackman]

It was a someone who was dressed as Wonka. It was like Wonka. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's not fair. Like if you wear the costume and stuff, it's like, okay, yes, you could be Timothy Chalamet. But they should just done a natural.

[Moses Hackman]

Looking one, I guess. Yeah, you're right. If they're in the costume, it does give them kind of an advantage.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like when everyone dresses Captain Jack Sparrow, it's like everyone look like Johnny Depp because you look like Captain Jack Sparrow. So that makes it that. But if you were just like your face. Did you see the one? Did you? I saw it must be like Daily Mail or something where they were posting all the clips and people like, they're like cheering and the one they're like, no. There was one person that got like, damn, they were so New Yorkers.

[Moses Hackman]

Brutal. They were brutal.

[Trisha Paytas]

I will not be going to the Timothy Chop make contest when they're in New York.

[Moses Hackman]

Like, no, but yeah, so there is a lot of different costumes. There was a lot of Wonkas. There was a lot of Bob Dylan Linz from his new biopic. A complete unknown that Timmy is doing. Yeah, he surprised the crowd. Do you know. Oh, Club Chalamet? Of course. How could I forget? Club Chalamet. You know Club Chalamet? That is a horse I have to like really do.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is that Club Chris? I only know Club Chris. I don't know.

[Moses Hackman]

It's like a stand account. But she's serious. She runs it like she's her job. Yes. Like she's. She's an older woman too. So she's like, fierce. Like, she's fixed. Serious about it. Takes it very serious. Doesn't like Kylie Jenner. Like, only likes Timmy the actor. Not like, oh, my gosh, the personal drama around him. Like, she takes him very serious.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm not reporting on the drama. I care about him.

[Moses Hackman]

She won't even acknowledge Kylie Jenner. Like, Kylie Jenner does not exist.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like his girlfriend. Right.

[Moses Hackman]

She does not want Timmy to be associated with Kardashians.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I don't know. I feel like that's not drama. If that's like, his girlfriend, like, acknowledge her. That's weird. I think if I have a stand account, they don't acknowledge Moses. They're like, we hate Moses. Who's that? Trish married? Like, that's weird. Like, no, if you're a stand account, support the person there with. That's so weird. Okay.

[Moses Hackman]

Girl may only supports Timmy's acting endeavors, acting projects.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess maybe she should just say, I don't do the personal life. Don't say, like, the drama. That's wild.

[Moses Hackman]

But that's a whole separate thing. But anyway, I don't even know. I just have to talk about Club Charlemagne, I guess.

[Trisha Paytas]

But are you a part of it? You follow?

[Moses Hackman]

I do follow Club Chalamet because I think she's just fierce. And I love, you know, the girl. Yes. She posts photos of herself sometimes, like Comic Con and, like, at premieres and stuff.

[Trisha Paytas]

But she goes to the premieres.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah, she went to, like, the Venice Film festival tour.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah. She takes him very serious.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did she take pictures with him?

[Moses Hackman]

She has a. I think one or two photos.

[Trisha Paytas]

He knows. You think, you know, she runs the account.

[Moses Hackman]

I would hope so. I mean, she's fierce. I mean, if the rest of the world knows that Club Shallow, who Club Charlemagne is, I feel like Timmy has got to know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I like the idea of anonymous Dan accounts, but I was like, the idea of, like, who are they running that? Because some of them are like, there's like a Trisha Paytas lover on TikTok and they always post, like, really old clips, obscure clips. There was like one really obscure thing I saw the other day and I was like, how did they find this clip? Something I talked about, kind of can't remember. But it was like, such an obscure clip. Do you remember how do they find that? I was really, really old. Anyways. They find old clips and I'm just like, wow, that's like really dedication. Just want to know. You're like, who are these People, you know what I mean? Like, is it just someone with a regular job? Is someone with a family? Is it like a young teenager who has nothing to do?

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah, because you do assume. I think that was kind of the gag was I feel like Twitter was trying to make fun of Club Shelley's. Like, oh, like, you're an older woman, you're doing this. But it's actually, she gets the last laugh because she, like, has a good job, she makes money, and then she can afford to go on these trips to the film festivals or like, you know, all the different premieres or whatever because she makes good money and she can take the vacation.

[Trisha Paytas]

She makes money on Twitter?

[Moses Hackman]

No, she. Well, she does make money from Twitter because she is, like, verified or whatever. So I'm sure she does make money. But she has, like a job. I don't know where she works, but she has, like a job.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then she's like a surgeon.

[Moses Hackman]

Honestly. Like, she really. Lee is like, fierce, but she. Oh, that's how it was. She tweeted like, I don't think Timmy's gonna go to this, but maybe he'll, like, look out from a apartment or a hotel and look down at the crowd or something. And then that was. Timmy did show up and everyone's like, damn, Club Chalamet.

[Trisha Paytas]

Was she there? Was.

[Moses Hackman]

I think Club Chalamet is LA based.

[Trisha Paytas]

Or California, if that's your career, like, go do it. You know what I mean?

[Moses Hackman]

I think of Timmy, if she really believed Timmy would go, I think she probably would have been there. But it was chaotic, so maybe it's for the best that. Because she's kind of famous in the Timmy Chalamet, like, fan sphere, so maybe she probably would have got mobbed too. So maybe it's for the best.

[Trisha Paytas]

But even so, if you think someone would be there, you know what I mean? I don't know.

[Moses Hackman]

She really didn't think. And I guess, like, I guess I wouldn't think either because it is like this random. Yeah, that's true.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess that's why it was a shock when he showed everyone he's here. I like that for him.

[Moses Hackman]

Me too. I think that makes him, like, more fun. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

It makes me like it more for sure. I feel like Andrew Garfield want to do that. That.

[Moses Hackman]

I don't know. He is kind of silly, but no.

[Trisha Paytas]

He gives me, like, now. I did love Andrew Garfield, but I do think he's kind of like. He's like a little knockoff Jonathan Bailey. I feel. You know what I Mean, he's just like a wish version, huh? I guess he came first.

[Oscar]

But he made so many movies. Jonathan Bailey just showed up.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I stand on the Bailey. I just think he's like, he's almost there, you know, because like, why wasn't he in Bridgerton? He's like an almost there person, you know Andrew Garfield. I did like him. I don't know. Right. You think?

[Moses Hackman]

I don't know. I have a soft spot for Andrew Garfield. I do. I don't know. I think he's charming.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, definitely. I like him too. I just think he's not as good as the British. And boys, none of them. Luke Newton, Luke Thompson, very different.

[Oscar]

He has a very different.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's British, babe.

[Oscar]

He's British.

[Trisha Paytas]

He looks British.

[Oscar]

Look at the parts he play. None of them are British.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is weird. I wonder why.

[Moses Hackman]

Just play like a dark historical figure usually.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, something. Yeah, that's true.

[Oscar]

Fun fact about lookalikes. You know who else, who else showed up to their own competition? Look like competition. You might know who. Dolly Parton.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh yeah, the drag queens.

[Oscar]

She entered the competition.

[Moses Hackman]

That's fierce.

[Oscar]

And lost.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't think that's real. I think that was a made up story.

[Oscar]

Are you sure? I think she wrote about it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel like I know that story. I feel like it might be made, but if it's real, let us know. Yeah. You know, sometimes they just fabricate stories to be funny too. Not that I'm saying Dolly's liar, but.

[Moses Hackman]

Maybe, maybe I could see it. Like maybe she did answer, but there's.

[Trisha Paytas]

No way she enters. I'm gonna enter this competition. I'm gonna stay in line with everybody and I'm gonna get judged like everyone else. There's like no way that would happen. But I think it was probably like more cutesy. Like they look more like me than I looked like me or something like.

[Moses Hackman]

That kind of did something similar. I forget which one it was. Maybe it was Andrew Garfield where they made him stand outside in like a Spider man outfit and like pretend that he on Hollywood Boulevard. I funny for. What's his. Jimmy Kimmel. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Was it Tom Holland?

[Oscar]

Sounds about Sprite.

[Moses Hackman]

I thought it was Andrew. I could definitely be wrong though. I. I remember it. There was like another person where he was like a. They were like imperson. They were doing like an impersonation even though it was them and they were like fooling people.

[Trisha Paytas]

I like when people do that. I like when people can like be a part of it and something.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah, funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

I. I think Anna Nicole did that a lot, too. She'd have, like. I think on her show, she had a bunch of drag queens that looked like her. And she would like it in there, too. I like it. I like the idea that it got me thinking.

[Moses Hackman]

If you had a Trisha lookalike contest, like, that would be crazy because it would be all different nationalities. Like, it would be great. You could really eat up a Trisha lookalike contest.

[Trisha Paytas]

People have been so good on Halloween. I've been reposting. There's someone. Tick tock to that. There was one. I can't think of her name. I'll see if I can find. I think I saved it. And she was like, in my. I think she might have gotten the exact dress that I got from Fashion Nova. Then those, like, promo shots. And she did the. She had the microphone blinged out. And then check it out. She did the rare beauty. She was so good. I was like. And she had the wig. And I was like, some of these people were really slay. They really do look so good. I'm like, it's, like, so cool. A lot of people do look like me, I guess, too.

[Oscar]

Yeah. It wasn't Drew Garfield.

[Trisha Paytas]

He was just, like, really?

[Oscar]

Just like, playing Spider man on the street.

[Trisha Paytas]

I kind of love him for that. I do love him. But I think Jonathan Bailey would do that too, so. Yeah, I think he would do that, too. I love that for him. That's actually so cool. That's funny. I like when people do that when they don't take themselves so seriously.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah. And to me, Timmy kind of won me back over.

[Trisha Paytas]

Honestly. Same. Yeah. When people can show up to those kind of things, I'm kind of like, okay.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah, I was. True. I mean, it's also funny that he literally was, like, working in New York and walked past, like, a flyer that was like, timothy chalamet lookalike contest, October 27th.

[Trisha Paytas]

And that's why he went.

[Moses Hackman]

I think that's why that photo went viral of him walking past it, so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I didn't see it.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah. It was like, literally a paparazzi. He just happens to walk by the flyer.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is crazy.

[Moses Hackman]

I know. And also, the winner only did get $50. He said he's going to spend it on candy because he was dressed as Wonka. But you do win a big trophy. It was a gigantic trophy. That was like, number one, Timothy Chalamet look like.

[Trisha Paytas]

And who put it on? Who did it?

[Moses Hackman]

Honestly have no idea who put it on. But the next one they're putting on is Jeremy Allen White. Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Now they're just trying to get people to show up because he's there doing Bruce Greens in New Jersey. Like, they'll show up to. But it becomes a lie. Like, it. I like it. I like that people can just do it. Like, I kind of. You know what I've been thinking about lately is, like, really throwing, like, my own Bridgerton ball. Like, just having people come to, like, our house or something. And like, not. Maybe not our house, but I mean, like, it's something in the vicinity.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

We could do Four Seasons again where we got married. We could rent it out and then decorate, like, Bridgerton. Redo our thing. Just have, like, fans come of Bridgerton, I guess. Do they charge tickets? I guess they charge. We don't charge tickets. We can just do it for free or sponsored. Yeah, no, I mean, I know.

[Oscar]

I know how much that place costs.

[Trisha Paytas]

Patreon Bridgerton here for. Who wants to go? That would be fun. Yeah.

[Oscar]

If you do it in a public park, you just, you know, people just gather together.

[Moses Hackman]

They arrested a Timothy Chalamet. Look alike.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's pretty fierce. That's cool. To be arrested as Timothy Chalamet. Why did they arrest him? Why did they arrest one person?

[Moses Hackman]

The they. The NYPD released a statement and it alleged that the organ, the organizer of the Timothee Chalamet lookalike contest, was arrested because he was arguing with them. I think trying to, like, like, say that to let them go on with the event, but I think they're trying to shut it down just because it was too many people. And obviously you have to have, like, you know, permits or whatever. So.

[Trisha Paytas]

Safety hazard.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah. It kind of gave me, like, gays eating garlic bread in the park vibes because, remember, you wanted to have your own. I was like, thank God you didn't do that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe my next tour I can go to New York and just do gazing. Garlic bread in the park.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah. They got a permit.

[Trisha Paytas]

Would show up if I was just like, hey, gays, meet me here. Like, I wonder how many would come. That'd be like, major, actually.

[Oscar]

Police stops them. That's a hate crime.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. That is kind of weird, actually, when.

[Oscar]

Everyone'S here to gather together. Now that is weird, actually.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why can't you gather? I guess safety. I guess it's like a safety thing. That would be so cool, though. It's going to happen. It'll happen one day. Matthew Stevens. Daniel Preta, Oscar Sloan. We can just do our own mini version. Oh, Jimmy.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah. Jonathan Bailey.

[Trisha Paytas]

Garlic bread on the court. He doesn't look like someone who'd eat garlic bread, you know, Interview him.

[Moses Hackman]

You can ask him about the boots. You have two questions.

[Trisha Paytas]

Come with us. And you know about the food. Describe it.

[Moses Hackman]

How to imagine. I would love to see you in that predicament where it's like, hey, you get three questions. I'm gonna wrap you on two with Jonathan Bailey. What are your questions?

[Trisha Paytas]

They wrap me after the first one. How cold was it in that shoot with the boots?

[Moses Hackman]

Okay. Thank you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Why did I see that actually happening? That's why it's so funny. Cause I, like, visualize it. I would. I would get kicked out. I always think about that. I'm like, I would get kicked out if something's, like, so not being appropriate or something will never happen. I'm no Amelia over here. Okay, but you worry. You were given chicken chop date for sure on that purpose one day. Well, there's a Trisha Bayes lookalike contest. Let me know. I'll come to it.

[Moses Hackman]

For sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe not. Actually. Don't do it. I don't know. Probably not. Sounds like a good idea in theory, but also terrifying. Maybe I'll lose like, Dolly. Maybe I'll enter, too.

[Moses Hackman]

Add that to your memoir.

[Trisha Paytas]

I do need another chapter. Let's see if that works out. That's so funny.

[Oscar]

You put the flyers up. We'll take a picture of you passing by the flyers.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's funny. I would do it, actually. That is k. I would do it. I would so do it. That's so funny. Next time we're in New York and print the flyers. I wanted to know the E. News thing, but are you gonna say that for Patreon? I want to see.

[Moses Hackman]

Oh, it's really. I can tell you, but it's quick. It's not that. It sounded probably more exciting.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're on E. News, and I was like.

[Moses Hackman]

I was looking for stories, and it was just like, celebrity. It was how celebrities are relatable, and it was celebrities who dress up as other celebrities. And you and Moses randomly as Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce from last year. Last year were the thumbnail. They were the number, number one celebrities dressed as celebrities.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, really?

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah. On E. News.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that we're a celebrity. Celebrity. That's so cool. That is actually kind of a slay, actually. That's wild. Celebrities, Me and Moses.

[Moses Hackman]

And it was like, see even celebrities just as celebrities.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love. I love that so much. That's kind of. I didn't see it. I really do Google my name as far as, like, News. Because I always go to the news tab just to see if there's, like, an article about me. And I do it, like, once a week, and I didn't see that, so.

[Oscar]

Yeah, it's the first thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Let me see. Oh, my gosh. We did it last year for your birthday.

[Moses Hackman]

That was a good cosplay, too.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was a good one.

[Oscar]

Even famous people enjoy dressing like celebrities. Halloween.

[Trisha Paytas]

Even famous people. Oh, that's okay. I see. Or no, just a picture.

[Oscar]

See? No, I'm trying to see. Because when you. Before you open the article, it's our picture.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I see. Like the little thumbnail. Oh, that's cool. All right, well, that's good enough. At it later.

[Oscar]

They like top stories.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. Oh, my God. Wow. That's the draw for people. They're like, they'll click on it. That's so cool. I know. Every year, because Moses birthday is around Halloween. It's like. And we run. We run out of time to do all the Halloween costumes. I always just, like, put them in something that I like. I'm like, could probably, like, dress nice for your birthday. But, like, last year we did the Travis Kelce on your birthday. This year we did Bridgerton. So I was like, one year you'll get to pick.

[Oscar]

But that's part of the fun of having your birthday on Halloween. I always used to celebrate my birthday at a Halloween party.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Well, now we celebrated dressing up together.

[Oscar]

More fun.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it. Yay. That's so cool. That's exciting, actually.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was like, wow, that's so funny. Who, like, were the other celebrities versus celebrities?

[Moses Hackman]

Let me pull up the list.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar]

Oh, here. So now, because I couldn't click on it now it says, take, for instance, Influence. Influencer Trisha Paytas and her husband was Hackman, who paid tribute to Taylor Swift and Travis kelce for Halloween. 20, 20. 23.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's good.

[Oscar]

And I don't know, they describe it. How we're dressed.

[Trisha Paytas]

Tanner and Brooke homies.

[Oscar]

Where the heart is. Trisha wrote on Instagram.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, but I think that's a Taylor Swift flair, right?

[Moses Hackman]

I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I can't remember.

[Moses Hackman]

Sean White and Nino Dobrev as Axel Rosen. Slash from Guns and Roses. Rosalia as B. Orc York. Alex Earl as Madonna.

[Trisha Paytas]

Random.

[Moses Hackman]

Kendall Jenner as Marilyn Monroe.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. I love that we were above Kendall as Marilyn.

[Moses Hackman]

Megan Fox and Machine Gun Kelly as Pamela Anderson.

[Trisha Paytas]

Celebrities on this list. That's wild. That's. I thought we were competing against, like, Remy and what, Hank and Courtney Gargansen and Travis Barker.

[Moses Hackman]

Wow. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

And we're number one. That's.

[Oscar]

It starts with us.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. We have fan already news, I think. Thank you. We have an Oscar over there. Someone that loves us. Thank you.

[Moses Hackman]

Kardashian as Aaliyah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And that was so good. That's because we do a lot of cool cosplays. I wouldn't say Travis and Taylor's like, our number one.

[Oscar]

So that's kind of something about that one that just. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was niche. Not a lot of people.

[Oscar]

There was one time that the picture came around, and I thought it was the actual picture, and it was us.

[Trisha Paytas]

I got to the exact same brand he was wearing. It was.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah, you really didn't nail it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I did the detail, and it was.

[Moses Hackman]

A fast turnaround again, too. It was a quick one. That's the trick.

[Trisha Paytas]

I learned that early in life. I remember entering coloring.

[Moses Hackman]

So funny. I'm sorry. Continue.

[Oscar]

That was in law school.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, but I actually did. I remember I used to, like, submit, like, coloring, like, contest, like, coloring contests, like, at the pharmacy. Like, you could color, page, whatever. There was always writing contests that I entered. And I remember entering a ghost story. I remember it so specifically. That's a good writer back in the day. But I would always enter these writing contests, and you get like, 500 if you want. It was like a paper, like a.

[Moses Hackman]

Local newspaper more than Timothee Chalamet.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. So, yeah, that was, like, in the 90s. And I would always write them, and I would always get like, I'm, you know, like, whatever. I would. Like, I never really won or whatever, but if I got them in early, the one time, I submitted it within, like, a day, like, I saw the ad in the newspaper, and I submitted it with within a day. And I don't think I won, but I got featured. I got to be print in the newspaper, and I was the only story. Ghost story made the newspaper. And it was just because, like, I got it in the quickest, and I was like, always get it in the quick. Same thing with the coloring sheets. If you get it in fast, you're, like, the first one to hang on the wall. So, like, always do that quick turnaround. I try my best to do as quick as possible with the cosplays, but I think if I was the one sewing them, like, obviously I would. I would sew right away. But people have lives and, like, they, you know, travel and work and all that stuff like that. So I usually. I'm like, instantly, I want it. But. But Eddie and Michael. They usually do get a pretty quick turnaround, but it's all. It always pays off. Well, I love it. Yes. Of. I'm retiring. I'm retired. I made too much money on it.

[Moses Hackman]

Oh, that such a random side note, but since you mentioned him, I forgot Eddie was at the Olivia Rodrigo thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Doing what?

[Moses Hackman]

I think he's friends because there's a writer for Rolling Stone who I am mutuals with. And he was like, oh yeah, Eddie's coming later. But I was leaving so I didn't get to meet him in irl.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's. He literally knows everyone. Even at the Katy Perry shoot, everyone's like, oh my God, you know Eddie. Like Playboy too. Everyone's like, you know Eddie. Like, it's actually kind of wild. I met him with Sugar, Sugar and Spice when they were here. Yeah, that's how I knew him. And I just thought he was very quiet. I just thought I was like her, like her friend or whatever. And yeah, like everyone kind of knows him. That is. That's wild. He's very much that person that like everyone knows he is. He has slay. I'm not gonna lie. Like the photographer who did my play where she was pay shoots film. I love her so much and she's like, oh, I love Eddie. Like, everyone just like loves Eddie. And I was like, he is the best. And he like did all our costumes for this. He was. He was really good. We love you. Love you. Eddie's online so good. He's a big Katie cat. So when I did the video, he was just like, oh, that's. Yeah. Love Katy Perry too.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah. A good transition into. Oh yeah, you said you're retiring.

[Trisha Paytas]

I've retired.

[Moses Hackman]

Oh yeah, you've retired.

[Trisha Paytas]

And Corinna copying me, always trying to get money like me. We both just made too much money. It was just too easy. And now we're leaving Corinna be in the headlines this week. She's always in the net line.

[Moses Hackman]

She's a little messy boots, but she's a little messy. Yeah. Well, she tweeted no more Lincoln bio cryptically on Twitter which made everyone think that she was going to be retiring. But then she. The update that I just saw is that she actually retracted distracted it. She's slowly going to be stepping away.

[Trisha Paytas]

Love it. Not a forward time transition.

[Moses Hackman]

And the. She said that she is building a house right now so she could use the extra $300,000 a month.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is that what she said? Oh my God. Good marketing to be like. It's a. It's like me with my channel deleting all my videos. Go check them out before they're gone. I actually was going to. I still might delete some. But it is, it is interesting how many people went and go look at those videos. I was like, oh, wow. It was. It really wasn't my intention. Rs like. So when I thought, when she said this, I kind of thought that I was like, oh wow. She's like no more Lincoln bio than people go to see. Oh, Lincoln bio. Let me click it before.

[Moses Hackman]

True. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

After 300k a month. But she made 60. I guess she must have made a lot at the beginning because she made 67 million in three years. So that's more than 300,000amonth.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah, she's made 67 million in three years. And I guess her. Her lowest earning month and this was in 2022. Her. Her lowest earning month was 683,000. So maybe she just doesn't post as frequently now.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Moses Hackman]

But yeah, at the height her lowest was 682, 000.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean that's so insane. That's so insane.

[Moses Hackman]

I mean her best earning month, she made 2.3 million in June of 2022.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Moses Hackman]

Oh no. June of 2021.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would think more if she made 67 million. I'm surprised it wouldn't have been more. Unless she. I guess she consistently made that. Yeah, that's pretty. Wow. That's pretty good. I wonder who's the number one. I mean her.

[Moses Hackman]

I'm sure there's someone that's probably.

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel like Lana probably makes a lot, lot of the plug especially with that video she did with that guy, the first guy she ever did like, which was like a couple years ago. It was like a big deal. It was like everywhere. It was after she got married to. And it was that guy. I forgot his name. Jason something. Jason Love. Hear me knowing Jason Love. But I follow her story. I think she probably. She probably is up there. She made a lot of money. I mean Corinna. I mean 67 million since.

[Moses Hackman]

It's insane. Yeah. And then I read an article that kind of like put it into context of like actors or whatever and it was like Jennifer Lawrence made 25 million for no hard feelings. And then Corinne. But I guess that's one movie versus like three years. More like comparable.

[Oscar]

Call her Daddy, you know. She made 60 million. Sold the entire enterprise for 60 million.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right, right. And she just made it over. It's pretty wild. It's pretty crazy. 120 million. So they're Topping now Korean Corinne's.

[Moses Hackman]

But also Corner doesn't have to split it with anyone either, so.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's true. There's not, like, production and crew wild. I mean, maybe she'd have someone help her. I'm sure she has some helper.

[Moses Hackman]

I'm sure. I think a lot of them use, like, the different. Different, like, because someone on Drag Race randomly. I think last year was like, one of the people who responds. Worked for a girls of where, like, responded to the DMs pretending to be her.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, really?

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, probably something like that.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, I think that's a little. Doesn't it sound a little bit scammy because you think you're talking for sure.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah. But it's honestly like, like, you know, the vlog squatters that do. It's like they all do, like, the same thing. You want to see me, like, I look so good in this emoji. Emoji, emoji. I've never showed this much skin before. Emoji, emoji.

[Trisha Paytas]

I didn't know.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah, it's. I think it's a. I mean, I don't know that, like. I don't know that, like, what the process is. Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like a company that does it.

[Moses Hackman]

It must be. Yeah, because it's also. I think they all use, like, the same, like, message format, so it's easy to tell when it's not that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, interesting. I've always done it myself. I felt like it's for that much money, like, and that's why during quarantine, I mean, every day I'm like, typing, doing videos. Like, it's. And it was a lot of work, you know, it's like, it's. It's a lot, but I just think it feels so inauthentic and, like, it's one thing to send out messages, I guess. You know, if it's like something just like you're sending out the messages anyway, it doesn't matter. But if you're, like, chatting with somebody, I think that's like, a little scammy because it's kind of, like, mean. I don't know. They're paying and it's a lot of money. Like, you know, I think what it was like, 20. It's like 20 per message, I think, or something. And then people are chatting with you. So if you're, like, not chatting with them. I don't know. I don't. I think it's, like, a little bit bad morally, a little bit bad because it's like, I don't know. Get at least to shout with them. I mean that's like the very basic you can do. It's like you're on the phone, you're not in person. Like a chat is right?

[Moses Hackman]

I think so, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Doesn't that seem scammy or. No, no, it does.

[Moses Hackman]

I. To me what I see.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know if Cor does. Maybe she is answering every message.

[Moses Hackman]

I literally have no idea.

[Trisha Paytas]

But probably if they're all saying the same thing like it's probably a company running it.

[Moses Hackman]

Cuz I. I have like some like oomphs that have like of. And like they say that they do have like a management that does like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Their message but they're like oh, there's someone that runs this.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah, well that's what they told me. But I think it's pretty normalized cuz like literally everyone's messages are like the same format or something. But I don't know like how it goes with like Dan. Like once you go back and forth with someone. I don't know, I don't have a lot of expertise in the subject but.

[Trisha Paytas]

I had a company for like literally a couple weeks and I was like, I don't like it. Like I just felt like it was just like. I don't know, like it makes it easier, whatever. But I just didn't like it and I felt bad. I was like, I feel bad. These people are like yeah, talking to me. I don't know.

[Moses Hackman]

I think the biggest scam is like that I see people complain about a lot is like, like the vlog squatters. I don't think they actually show anything. But then they say in the messages you get to see all of me.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then it's like not you're underwear. It's like.

[Moses Hackman]

And you buy it and then you're kind of stuck with it. And then because you don't see it before you buy the content.

[Trisha Paytas]

I've been victim to that. When I used to like look at a lot of people of I would always like buy it. Mostly girls I would like buy because they'd be like I'm showing everything or like watch me get it on with this person. And it like wasn't that at all. It was like a picture of like them holding their boobs. It's like that's crazy. That's like an actual lie. It's like one thing to be like oh, this is my sexiest photo yet or whatever.

[Moses Hackman]

But yeah, yeah, say that you're gonna see something and then it's not. It's like weird False advertising. And then if you can't, if you complain, I think you get like. Like you lose all access to that account at all. Like, you know, I can't see. Like, if I. If I complain about one Toddy Smith, like, yeah, I can't like go back. So it's.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, well, that's not morally good. Carmatic in like, energy is not good. Like, I don't know, because that happened to me like that the strip club I remember, like the girl, the manager I'd run it would like promote promise these guys something. They spoke in Spanish. So, like, I didn't. I truly didn't know. But they would, they would kind of tell me. Like, we're gonna tell them this. You go in there and if they touch you, you can like leave. But they were like telling them they could or something. So then you could leave after like 30 seconds, but you get to keep the 600 or whatever. So I think that's like such bad karmatic energy. And I know because during that time I just had so much bad stuff happen to me and I was getting robbed and everything like that. And I was like. But I was kind of doing it too. So I think it's just like not good energy to scam people, especially that way. I know it seems like it's like not a big deal and. Oh my God, like, whatever. They're at least getting, you know, something like someone flirting with them, but it's not you. It's not what they think. And also, yeah, the thing. Don't promise you're going to see something if you're not going to show something, you know?

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do whatever you want on a lot. But also, don't promise. Don't have fake promises like you're going to see me hole, you know, then don't show it. And then it's just like, I don't know. I saw someone do that, like, oh, this is my, like, sexiest hole ever. And it was like, literally they're piercing everything. I was like, that is.

[Moses Hackman]

It's bad.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's fine. I think I honestly, if you think you're going to see all of me and you just see underwater wear, then that's a little bit.

[Moses Hackman]

Cleaning the earpiece I think is almost camp. But if I paid for it, I'd be pissed. You know what I mean? Yeah, like, see my hole? There's his ear piercing. I'd be like, what the hell?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's bad. But then you might think it's funny. I guess you have a Sense of humor.

[Moses Hackman]

It depends how much it was. If it's 30 to laugh, I don't know. You know, I could get that somewhere else.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, Trish.

[Moses Hackman]

And laugh for free.

[Trisha Paytas]

Exactly. Or feature on $5 and you get guaranteed laughs. So many laughs. And it's hour long last. Scotty, Sire Ear hole is only a second of a laugh. So.

[Moses Hackman]

There was one more story and I'm genuinely so interested because my opinion keeps shifting. So, like, I'm interested for your take. I'm interested for, like, the comments people take. I don't know, because I am so, like, torn about it. There was an influence, influencer name, Lily Phillips. She went viral on Tick Tock and also Twitter because she.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I did see this. Hate it. Oh, you love.

[Moses Hackman]

No, I don't love. I literally go back and forth between like, oh, feminism versus, like, maybe exploitation. I don't know. Yeah, she shared her experience where she was being intimate with 101 men in the span of 14 hours.

[Trisha Paytas]

You said it so respectfully. The way she says it in her own words is actually wild. I was like, I think it's also the way she says it too, which is like, yeah, yeah, she was intimate with 100 men in 24 hours.

[Moses Hackman]

Well, yeah, it made. I'm using the, you know, the PC terms and everything, but yeah, she was very, like, unapologetic about it. She showed off. She had these random clips, like, getting ready for it. And then like, in between the men coming in and out of the room, right where she was showing, like, the bed. And one guy brought her a rose. The other one, like, you know, broke the nightstand. The bed is messy. She showed, like, her lip being bitten.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. That was wild because she showed it like, the day after and she, like, this, like, thing on her lip and everyone's like, oh, my God, like, what happened?

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah, so, yeah, I. And like, the, like, bed was. She showed the destroyed. Yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

She showed all the feet of all the men. Like, they're like, kicks, like, just waiting in line.

[Moses Hackman]

And she is pretty unapologetic about it. She said she wants to, like, you know, challenge the societal norms around female sexuality. And she says it wasn't about seeking validation or encouraging others to follow in her footsteps. It was more about her owning her personal choices and embracing her desires without guilt. She said, I'm just a girl and this is my life.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think there's, like, a lot of things wrong with this. There's so many things wrong. But, like, the thing that's not wrong is if you want to say 100 men have sex with a hundred men. Like, nobody. Nobody. I don't think anyone should care about that. Like, that's what you want to do. Like, do it. I've definitely done, like, like eight people one day, you know, just for whatever. You know what I mean? It's definitely do whatever you want to do if that's what you want to do. And, like, she's like, I'm owning it. I don't think there's, like, anything wrong with that. I think there's, like, so many things wrong with this. Like, I think first is you put it on Tick Tock, which is like, you can be 13 years old on Tick Tock. So I think that's, like, so inappropriate to put it out there. And it's like, you can make the argument, oh, well, like, it's like, you know, Twitter is very, like, Twitter, like, they have the 18 plus. They have this or whatever like that there's so you kind of know that's like an adult's, like, place to be. 13 on tick tock is, like, wild because there is so many kids on there. So I think just overall, you don't want a child coming across it. You're not being. You're not able to label it something as 18plus. On TikTok Patreon, you can do 18plus. Twitter will label 18plus. I don't think Instagram, you can. So I think it's like your kids can be scrolling and, like, not gonna have a choice to see it. So I think that's, like, really wrong. And then I think also just. I think more it's the. Because you're like, it's not for anyone else. It's not for validation. It's not for this. But, like, you are showing it to show something. And it's like, I think it's just giving the wrong message of just like, you know, someone bit my lip. And, like, obviously she didn't ask for, like, didn't want that. I think it's just a little bit degrading and it's not the actual act itself. Have sex with a thousand men, I don't care. Like, you know what I mean? I don't think that's degrading. I think putting it out there and the verbiage she used and, you know, the aftermath where her eyes are red and, you know, she's. Was she. I'm so tired. I feel like I got hit by a truck. Like, all of that, it's. It's giving. It's giving a little like, degrading And I again, I think it's. If it's on her of. And that's what people want to see, fine. But it's like, now you're showing it to everybody. Tick tock. Like, you're making a whole thing about it. I think that's. I think that's, like, where my issue comes in. What do you think?

[Moses Hackman]

I don't know. I went back and forth. At first mine, it was kind of one of those ones where, like, every time I saw a quote tweet with a take, I was like, that makes sense. You know what I mean? So, like, the first, I was like, well, that's kind of that it spoke more it's like the 101 men waiting outside than it does about her. And I was like, t. Like, it is gross from the men to be there waiting in line to, like, sleep with someone. I'm like, that's kind of gross. And then.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I don't even think that's gross. Like, that's what you get off on. Like, you just want to be number 100. Go be number 100. You want to hear with her sweat and, you know, all the stuff on her and okay, that's your kink. Do it. Like, I don't even think that's necessarily gross either. I think it's the promotional. I think the promotional. And they didn't show their faces and, like, whatever. And I don't, you know, that that's what they wanted to do that day. If it's all adults consenting to it.

[Moses Hackman]

That's true.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know?

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah. I don't know. I am just like. So at first I was like, like, female empowerment. Right? But then it's like she is putting. That can't be, like, good for your body or, like, emotional mental state either. Like, that's just so much like, intimacy with, like, so many people. And then obviously, like, she said that she was like, like, you know, she was aching and stuff, but she still, like, enjoyed it or whatever. But then, like, her eyes were red and her lip is all bruised.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Nobody wants someone to bite their lip that hard. That.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah, there's no.

[Trisha Paytas]

And it's not. I love it. This is my favorite thing in the world is like, someone did it. Like, I didn't know, like, whatever. And it's like that. I know for me personally, like, the one day I did it, like, I think it was like eight people. I was like, literally, I just wanted to feel something. And I also was just so wanting to almost, like, not saying this is her But I just remember like being like, either know what if I want to end my life, like, this is the way to do it. You know what I mean? Like, if someone's going to come, like this is the way I go out or whatever. Someone comes and like gets me this way or something. Like I really just wanted to feel something. I kind of wanted to feel like, be put out of my misery. Like it was a weird for me personally. Like, if she loves it again, like love it, go do it. But I think, you know, I don't know, it just promotes like a weird message and then girls will like do. Because it is promoting it. You put it out online. If it's just truly for you, you don't need to put it out online or you put it on your of or something like that. But if you're putting it on tick tock for so many people to see and the intention of it going viral, it's not just for you. It is some sort of validation or promotion, you know, one of the two. And then girls do it or whatever. Because it's like, yeah, I want to feel like liberated too. And it's like. And then they do it and then they regret it. She might not regret it, but there might be people who do. I know I regret eight in a day. You know what I mean? Like, I definitely do. And that's me. I'm very open. I'm very like body positivity, sex positivity, like do whatever, sell whatever, have sex with as many people as you want. But I, I just think it's also. Yeah. And maybe the safety, like you said. I think the safety in general is you can do tests, but so many STDs are undetectable. If everyone's consenting and everyone's in agreeance, like, hey, we might like, you know, spread something around. Fine, I guess. But it is also a little bit wrong to promote maybe that.

[Moses Hackman]

So I think obviously she showed like a bag of all the condoms. Yeah. But if her eyes were red from fluids. Fluids, you can still get STIs from that being in your eye, so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Or anything. Mouth or anything like that. Yeah. So I think, like I said, it's wrong for a lot of reasons. It's not because she chose to have sex with 100 men. I think that's like fine. I think it's like, it's kind of like walking it back to like the explanation of it where you're just. It's kind of like the lunch lays where they're very much like, you know, we're doing it to help kids and we don't want to make money. It's like, you know, it's. You obviously wanted the attention.

[Moses Hackman]

That's a good point.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, the vileness of it. And to say it's just for you, it's just like, like.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

No it's not. It's like there's so many other ways you can do it. You can, you can talk about it, you can do whatever. You know what I mean? But it's on a platform. There's kids. It's weird.

[Oscar]

We do have a lunchly update.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, what a transition. Logan, what did he say?

[Oscar]

About to wrap up.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, let's. Let's wrap up.

[Oscar]

Logan finally responded and he said he came with some receipts. So the FDA did not recall Angley like the. It's not on their public list. And he found out that the person that put the sign on the fridge is somebody that works there and just was kind of like a troll hater type thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wild Ralph's.

[Oscar]

And, and, and he said that basically they're just sold out. That's why they're not in the places that they're looking for. And I think his main point is that basically they're. They kind of are working on improving it and that like any other product, some products get damaged, ma'am, while handled. And I think that's what he tries trying to say the reason for the problem. So obviously the product is not strong enough to withstand the transportation of it. So they do need to fix that. But anyway, I think just at least one important thing was the FDA part that was not.

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel like what I've learned from this episode is we were worried about Mr. Beast being like she never got into business Logan Paul. But I'm thinking Logan Paul should probably have never gotten into business with Mr. Beast. I think he might be. Be the like most evil of the two. The lesser evil of the two is Logan.

[Moses Hackman]

That's honestly true.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think so like what he does is cringe for sure. But honestly.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah, talking about it and then like I think I processed it like no shade of Rosanna. But her presentation of like all the like receipts and stuff was a little bit like light hearted. Like she was still like bubbly and sweet talking about it. She's like, I don't know what any of this means. You know what I mean? Like, she's like, what is this like? Because it's all like weird like art and stuff that's like like dragons effing people and stuff. Like Garfield Corn. It's all kind of weird, you know? So she's like the innocent. Like, I don't know what this. So it was kind of like that through that voice, you know? But then talking with you, I was like, actually, wait, this is really dark.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's. It's bad. I was kind of like, I saw a little bit. I just immediately, like, I don't want to know anymore. Like, I think this should not be something I need to know, you know?

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah, it is interesting, like, how the presentation really makes, like a big.

[Trisha Paytas]

The tone of it all.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I didn't even fully process it, honestly, until, like, hearing you talking about it. I was like, actually, wait. Like, yeah, it is really, really serious and maybe shouldn't be present. Not. No shade to horror. Because I think she's trying to just spread awareness about it too. And like, that is the way that is the most captivating, I guess, because it is getting a lot of views, but.

[Trisha Paytas]

Or maybe unaware of the seriousness of it. Like the weight of it, you know?

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah. Because. True. Because she posted the video and then she did the update after where she said she has submitted everything to the FBI. Because I think a lot of people.

[Trisha Paytas]

Were commenting, like, go to the police.

[Moses Hackman]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Because so many times you do see, like, Internet drama and everyone's like, go to the police. And then you have to be like, oh, I actually did. Well, that's good. I mean. Yeah, that's a good. She probably led with that in the video. Like, this has been reported. But let me tell you also, just maybe don't do the video. I do love her, but maybe that one now.

[Moses Hackman]

Yeah, but interesting. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Anyways, you guys, we don't know anything here. We're. We're just giving opinions. Yeah. We're under the radar. Even though we do have a billboard in Times Square.

[Oscar]

We do taste. That's one thing that really happens. We actually taste the food.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Oh, my God. Yeah. Okay. We love the Wicked Movie and the Flying Monkey. Thank you for being here. The game, Flying Monkey, Apple Store Monkey, all of it. We are here for entertainment purposes only. I'm sad to end this one. I really love my costume and the vibes today. So anyways, we'll see you on patreon. Patreon.com. just Trish, you get more of us there. Love you. We gotta find something else to eat because we can't eat these vegetables anymore. We'll figure out there. Love you guys. Bye.