Just Trish Podcast – Episode Summary
"Going to the WICKED 2 Premiere + Chronically Online Girl Explains NEW Eugenia Cooney Pics"
Date: November 4, 2025
Host: Trisha Paytas
Guest Co-Host: Nicole Rafi (aka "Chronically Online Girl")
Frequent Contributor: Moses
Episode Overview
In this episode, Trisha Paytas, joined by viral creator Nicole Rafi, dives into a whirlwind of hot topics—pop culture, internet drama, Broadway, and the experience of living and working online. The discussion is packed with personal stories (the surreal moment of meeting celebrity crushes), critical reflections on “online” culture, and commentary on virality, fandom, and empathy for public figures in difficult spotlights. Together, Trisha and Nicole stay true to their outspoken, self-deprecating, but ultimately celebratory tone.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Broadway Debut, Tours & Busy Lives
- Trisha announces her Broadway debut in Beetlejuice, discusses “Trishmas” touring plans, and shares charitable efforts for Thanksgiving.
- Nicole describes her packed November, balancing content creation, fan events, and work while prepping for major live premieres.
“I feel like this is my calling to be a Broadway star. So I am so honored and lucky to be here.”
— Trisha ([01:04])
2. Meet Nicole ‘Chronically Online Girl’ Rafi
- Nicole’s signature: elaborate “wall” videos connecting pop culture dots, conspiracy-board style.
- Running joke of inserting Trisha into all her pop culture wall series.
- Both reflect on the power, thrill, and pitfalls of personal storytelling and “lying for attention” as kids.
“I was an only child, and I was like, my life isn’t that exciting. And I was like, how do I become more exciting?...It was stupid lies.”
— Nicole ([07:14])
3. Stranger Things Fandom & Premiere
- Nicole shares her obsession with Stranger Things. She’s attending the LA world premiere and describes her fan rituals (rewatch parties with friends, themed costumes).
- Trisha quizzes Nicole about going solo to the premiere and her excitement (with humor about “exposure therapy” on red carpets).
- Touches on the difference between real-life and online connections—how internet popularity translates in person.
“I’m just going to the vibe and cry and be—I'm taking my cousin with me to LA…”
— Nicole ([14:55])
4. Celebrity Encounters: Surreal Moments
- Nicole recounts the story of meeting Joe Keery (“light of my life”) in NYC right after talking about him—while wearing his merch.
- Discussion of fate, oracles, manifesting, and the chills of those “did I just meet my idol by chance?” moments.
“How am I not supposed to slip into psychosis?...Like, how are you not supposed to be like, oh, I’m psychic, I’m an oracle?”
— Nicole ([23:41])
5. Live Streaming, Parasocial Relationships & Internet Safety
- Live streaming’s unique intensity; the difference between edited YouTube content and raw, live access.
- Nicole helped organize Creators for Palestine, describes streamer culture, and the dark side of 24/7 access (stalkers, swatting).
- Both agree that constant exposure breeds obsession and that boundaries are crucial for mental health.
“People being able to know when you’re going to the bathroom, what you’re eating…makes people a bit more—If somebody has an obsessive nature and you give them access 24/7, their obsession...gets stronger.”
— Nicole & Moses ([47:34])
6. Changing Mindsets & Deserving Success
- Both talk honestly about imposter syndrome, self-deprecating humor, and learning to accept success.
- The importance of gratitude, inner work, and supporting happiness/growth in others (vs. online envy or gatekeeping).
“I used to always say that I’m a scammer...But more and more, I’m trying to be like, no, I did work hard for this...Two things can be true at once.”
— Nicole ([35:05])
7. Pop Culture Hot Takes: The Try Guys, Ned Fulmer, & Bad Vibes
- Recap of Try Guys fallout; discussion of group projects vs. solo fame.
- Anecdote: how group energy (and removing negative symbolism from shared spaces) affects creative environments.
- “Women’s intuition” about problematic male creators and the importance of listening to women’s warnings.
“I think when a woman says that a guy is bad news, you listen to them."
— Nicole ([52:33])
8. Fan Communities, Late Fandom, Separating Art/Artist
- Reflects on joining fandoms late and feeling accepted (Stranger Things, MCR, Prince).
- Toxicity in old-guard fandom, but most now welcome “late bloomers.”
- The struggle with loving art made by people who prove problematic—famous example: J.K. Rowling, Prince, Michael Jackson, Woody Allen.
“There’s such few things people have left for joy in life...It’s not the fans’ fault the author decided to be openly transphobic.”
— Nicole ([93:41])
9. Body Shaming, Eugenia Cooney & Online Empathy
- Latest Eugenia Cooney “sighting” at Disney World sparks online debates—concerns over her well-being, legal woes, and media coverage.
- Trisha and Nicole discuss how public concern tips easily into cruelty, and how no answer is simple or satisfactory.
- Both advocate for empathy, privacy, and refusing to participate in body-shaming or invasive speculation.
“I don’t love talking about her because I don’t want to ever add to anything...Big or small. Body shaming doesn’t help.”
— Trisha ([98:28])
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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Trisha on Joining Broadway Crowds:
“When there’s something good...like, here we found out the Wicked premiere was in New York...It was meant to be.” ([13:23]) -
Nicole, On Being a "Fan Girl":
“My friends gifted me this...I was just talking about you, and I just...I don’t get like that with people, really...” ([27:53]) -
On Parasocialness & Streaming:
“I think it’s this parasocialism of people seeing you in real time and feeling like they really are connected and know you.”
— Nicole ([45:47]) -
Weirdest Internet Moments:
“Some guy just set himself on fire in her yard the other day...like...they’re so casual...this is my fourth stalking charge...”
— Nicole, quoting streamer culture ([47:10]) -
On Growth & Jealousy:
“For so long, I sulked and was like, this year sucks...and like, more things become awful. I’m just like, okay, this is what’s good about this year...even today, looking at hot topics, sometimes I’m like, let’s just keep it cute.”
— Trisha ([31:00]) -
Art/Artist Dilemma:
“I used to be very much so that, like, you cannot separate art from an artist. But, to be completely honest, people have such few joys left in life.”
— Nicole ([93:41]) -
Empathy for Eugenia Cooney:
“People have been preying upon Eugenia Cooney’s downfall. I feel like it came from a place of compassion, and now it is just slowly becoming...really, really negativity and hoping...that something really awful happens to her. I just can’t imagine talking about another human being like that...”
— Nicole ([100:23])
Timestamps for Key Segments
- Intro, Broadway & Charity Projects: 00:20 – 03:49
- Nicole Rafi Joins / Pop Culture Wall Videos: 03:49 – 06:11
- Lying for Attention & Being Online: 06:11 – 09:54
- Stranger Things Obsession / Premiere Talk: 11:32 – 16:30
- Red Carpet Nerves & Fan Encounters: 13:40 – 24:00
- Meeting Joe Keery Story: 23:41 – 28:33
- Live Streaming/Parasocial Discussion: 44:42 – 48:42
- Try Guys Fallout & Group Energy: 49:13 – 54:06
- Art vs. Artist & Fandom Acceptance: 91:16 – 94:49
- Eugenia Cooney Disney Sighting & Body Shaming: 96:21 – 105:30
Tone & Style
- Conversational, witty, and deeply online.
- Both Trisha and Nicole balance vulnerable honesty with meme-y humor and media-savvy commentary—a blend of emotional and ironic.
Final Thoughts
This episode is a masterclass in how the chronically “online” experience ripples out into real-world dreams, anxieties, friendships, career opportunities, and personal growth. Leaping from Stranger Things fan hysteria to the ethics of online commentary on vulnerable public figures, Trisha and Nicole keep it grounded in empathy, gratitude, and the bizarre joys of pop culture. If you’ve ever found yourself caring too much about a parasocial relationship, craving positive drama, or asking how to balance fun with responsibility on the Internet—this episode is for you.