Going to the WICKED 2 Premiere + Chronically Online Girl Explains NEW Eugenia Cooney Pics

Summary

Just Trish Podcast – Episode Summary

"Going to the WICKED 2 Premiere + Chronically Online Girl Explains NEW Eugenia Cooney Pics"

Date: November 4, 2025
Host: Trisha Paytas
Guest Co-Host: Nicole Rafi (aka "Chronically Online Girl")
Frequent Contributor: Moses

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Trisha Paytas, joined by viral creator Nicole Rafi, dives into a whirlwind of hot topics—pop culture, internet drama, Broadway, and the experience of living and working online. The discussion is packed with personal stories (the surreal moment of meeting celebrity crushes), critical reflections on “online” culture, and commentary on virality, fandom, and empathy for public figures in difficult spotlights. Together, Trisha and Nicole stay true to their outspoken, self-deprecating, but ultimately celebratory tone.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Broadway Debut, Tours & Busy Lives

• Trisha announces her Broadway debut in Beetlejuice, discusses “Trishmas” touring plans, and shares charitable efforts for Thanksgiving.
• Nicole describes her packed November, balancing content creation, fan events, and work while prepping for major live premieres.

“I feel like this is my calling to be a Broadway star. So I am so honored and lucky to be here.”
— Trisha ([01:04])

2. Meet Nicole ‘Chronically Online Girl’ Rafi

• Nicole’s signature: elaborate “wall” videos connecting pop culture dots, conspiracy-board style.
• Running joke of inserting Trisha into all her pop culture wall series.
• Both reflect on the power, thrill, and pitfalls of personal storytelling and “lying for attention” as kids.

“I was an only child, and I was like, my life isn’t that exciting. And I was like, how do I become more exciting?...It was stupid lies.”
— Nicole ([07:14])

3. Stranger Things Fandom & Premiere

• Nicole shares her obsession with Stranger Things. She’s attending the LA world premiere and describes her fan rituals (rewatch parties with friends, themed costumes).
• Trisha quizzes Nicole about going solo to the premiere and her excitement (with humor about “exposure therapy” on red carpets).
• Touches on the difference between real-life and online connections—how internet popularity translates in person.

“I’m just going to the vibe and cry and be—I'm taking my cousin with me to LA…”
— Nicole ([14:55])

4. Celebrity Encounters: Surreal Moments

• Nicole recounts the story of meeting Joe Keery (“light of my life”) in NYC right after talking about him—while wearing his merch.
• Discussion of fate, oracles, manifesting, and the chills of those “did I just meet my idol by chance?” moments.

“How am I not supposed to slip into psychosis?...Like, how are you not supposed to be like, oh, I’m psychic, I’m an oracle?”
— Nicole ([23:41])

5. Live Streaming, Parasocial Relationships & Internet Safety

• Live streaming’s unique intensity; the difference between edited YouTube content and raw, live access.
• Nicole helped organize Creators for Palestine, describes streamer culture, and the dark side of 24/7 access (stalkers, swatting).
• Both agree that constant exposure breeds obsession and that boundaries are crucial for mental health.

“People being able to know when you’re going to the bathroom, what you’re eating…makes people a bit more—If somebody has an obsessive nature and you give them access 24/7, their obsession...gets stronger.”
— Nicole & Moses ([47:34])

6. Changing Mindsets & Deserving Success

• Both talk honestly about imposter syndrome, self-deprecating humor, and learning to accept success.
• The importance of gratitude, inner work, and supporting happiness/growth in others (vs. online envy or gatekeeping).

“I used to always say that I’m a scammer...But more and more, I’m trying to be like, no, I did work hard for this...Two things can be true at once.”
— Nicole ([35:05])

7. Pop Culture Hot Takes: The Try Guys, Ned Fulmer, & Bad Vibes

• Recap of Try Guys fallout; discussion of group projects vs. solo fame.
• Anecdote: how group energy (and removing negative symbolism from shared spaces) affects creative environments.
• “Women’s intuition” about problematic male creators and the importance of listening to women’s warnings.

“I think when a woman says that a guy is bad news, you listen to them."
— Nicole ([52:33])

8. Fan Communities, Late Fandom, Separating Art/Artist

• Reflects on joining fandoms late and feeling accepted (Stranger Things, MCR, Prince).
• Toxicity in old-guard fandom, but most now welcome “late bloomers.”
• The struggle with loving art made by people who prove problematic—famous example: J.K. Rowling, Prince, Michael Jackson, Woody Allen.

“There’s such few things people have left for joy in life...It’s not the fans’ fault the author decided to be openly transphobic.”
— Nicole ([93:41])

9. Body Shaming, Eugenia Cooney & Online Empathy

• Latest Eugenia Cooney “sighting” at Disney World sparks online debates—concerns over her well-being, legal woes, and media coverage.
• Trisha and Nicole discuss how public concern tips easily into cruelty, and how no answer is simple or satisfactory.
• Both advocate for empathy, privacy, and refusing to participate in body-shaming or invasive speculation.

“I don’t love talking about her because I don’t want to ever add to anything...Big or small. Body shaming doesn’t help.”
— Trisha ([98:28])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Trisha on Joining Broadway Crowds:
  “When there’s something good...like, here we found out the Wicked premiere was in New York...It was meant to be.” ([13:23])

• Nicole, On Being a "Fan Girl":
  “My friends gifted me this...I was just talking about you, and I just...I don’t get like that with people, really...” ([27:53])

• On Parasocialness & Streaming:
  “I think it’s this parasocialism of people seeing you in real time and feeling like they really are connected and know you.”
  — Nicole ([45:47])

• Weirdest Internet Moments:
  “Some guy just set himself on fire in her yard the other day...like...they’re so casual...this is my fourth stalking charge...”
  — Nicole, quoting streamer culture ([47:10])

• On Growth & Jealousy:
  “For so long, I sulked and was like, this year sucks...and like, more things become awful. I’m just like, okay, this is what’s good about this year...even today, looking at hot topics, sometimes I’m like, let’s just keep it cute.”
  — Trisha ([31:00])

• Art/Artist Dilemma:
  “I used to be very much so that, like, you cannot separate art from an artist. But, to be completely honest, people have such few joys left in life.”
  — Nicole ([93:41])

• Empathy for Eugenia Cooney:
  “People have been preying upon Eugenia Cooney’s downfall. I feel like it came from a place of compassion, and now it is just slowly becoming...really, really negativity and hoping...that something really awful happens to her. I just can’t imagine talking about another human being like that...”
  — Nicole ([100:23])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Intro, Broadway & Charity Projects: 00:20 – 03:49
• Nicole Rafi Joins / Pop Culture Wall Videos: 03:49 – 06:11
• Lying for Attention & Being Online: 06:11 – 09:54
• Stranger Things Obsession / Premiere Talk: 11:32 – 16:30
• Red Carpet Nerves & Fan Encounters: 13:40 – 24:00
• Meeting Joe Keery Story: 23:41 – 28:33
• Live Streaming/Parasocial Discussion: 44:42 – 48:42
• Try Guys Fallout & Group Energy: 49:13 – 54:06
• Art vs. Artist & Fandom Acceptance: 91:16 – 94:49
• Eugenia Cooney Disney Sighting & Body Shaming: 96:21 – 105:30

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Tone & Style

• Conversational, witty, and deeply online.
• Both Trisha and Nicole balance vulnerable honesty with meme-y humor and media-savvy commentary—a blend of emotional and ironic.

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Final Thoughts

This episode is a masterclass in how the chronically “online” experience ripples out into real-world dreams, anxieties, friendships, career opportunities, and personal growth. Leaping from Stranger Things fan hysteria to the ethics of online commentary on vulnerable public figures, Trisha and Nicole keep it grounded in empathy, gratitude, and the bizarre joys of pop culture. If you’ve ever found yourself caring too much about a parasocial relationship, craving positive drama, or asking how to balance fun with responsibility on the Internet—this episode is for you.

Transcript

[Trisha Paytas]

What's your take on David Harbour? Hot topic. Right?

[Nicole Rafi]

I wrote that down. I wrote that down. God.

[Trisha Paytas]

What? What? You were talking about him and he was like, behind you.

[Nicole Rafi]

Right? And how am I not supposed to slip into psychosis? Like, when something happens like that? Like, how are you not supposed to be like, oh, I'm psychic. I'm an oracle? Like, no, but you are.

[Trisha Paytas]

I believe in that. It gives me chills. But, yeah, people saw the. The photo of Eugenia. She was looking not so happy at the happiest place on earth. Live from New York, it's just Trish. We have the justice podcast in New York. I am super excited to be here in New York and doing the podcast and giving guys all the updates. We have a very special guest co host today. I'm very excited to introduce you to her. But before we get there, you guys, as of seeing this Tuesday, November 4th, I'll be making my Broadway debut, official Broadway debut, in Beetlejuice the musical. Come see it. If you're in New York, I'll be here until November 23rd. Be at all the shows. I'll be at double the shows on Wednesday, double the shows on Saturday. I'm super excited. I've been in rehearsals all week and I feel actually very confident and weirdly not nervous. And I feel like this is my calling to be a Broadway star. So I am so honored and lucky to be here. So check it out. Get your tickets today for Beetlejuice on Broadway. And once spooky season is over. I know Halloween's over, but once the spooky season's over, Trishma starts. And Trishma's doesn't really start until November 30th. So November 30th, get your tickets. I'll be at Long Beach, Thousand Oaks, San Francisco, California. Then here on the East Coast, I'll be in Philadelphia, Newark, New Jersey, Washington, D.C. and then I'll be making my way up to Canada. I'll be going up to Vancouver. Is that British? I don't know. But we love our Canadians also. Guys, check out patreon patreon.com just trish. We are putting extended podcast episodes every Wednesday, bonus videos every Saturday. You can also get signed headshots and stickers. It's a lot of fun. We just did our Halloween extended episode up there, so. So check it out. Patreon.com Just Trish. And right now I have a special email. Trisha food, the number 4, the letter [e-mail]. i just want to be able to give out some Blessings this November. I've been very thankful for the life I'm living right now. And one thing I've been doing is on emails when people come to me and say they're, you know, need some help in life. Uh, I would love to donate to some families that are in need of anything. If you need some food, if you need some special cupcakes, if you need anything this holiday season, I like to give out donations, so you can go here. Trisha food for [e-mail] and I try to pick about five people via email and think of it as not a burden. Think of it as bringing joy to me. I love doing this. I've been doing this since 2021. Uh, it's been going to my other email that's been getting flooded with New York personal assistant stuff. So we created a separate email to do. I've been seeing the timeline of my timeline, my for you page right now, and it's been a lot of it's been disheartening with things that are going on in our world. And I just want to help the best I can. So go to Trisha Food for [e-mail]. email me if you need any help this holiday season. Share your story with me. It's all private, of course, and love to help out. All right, today's episode. Hot Topics. Here we go. That's where we're at. And we have, of course, always May has been Moses Here, here. And a very special guest co host. We met at my last Broadway show. She is the Chronically Online girl. You're really the female Oscar. You're the Chronically Online Girl.

[Nicole Rafi]

That's the nicest thing anyone's ever. I love Oscar. Oscar is really, like the sweetest person in the world.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's the best. I. We met together with Oscar at the. At the Broadway show here. This is Nicole Rafi, everyone, by the way. And yes, you know, has Chronically Online Girl. I know you. I remember when Oscar first told me, obviously knew who you were online. Didn't know, like, the name with. But I always just know you as the girl with all the wall, the wolf. It's like a crime scene, but pop culture. You're like, this is tied to this. And I've seen it throughout the years. And I was like, oh, yes, but you're an icon. You're so good. I was literally looking the other day and I was like, oh, my God. She really is just like on top of everything. So thanks for being here.

[Nicole Rafi]

Oh, my God, thank you for having. Okay, so like, everyone's gonna be so excited. First of all, like, obviously, everyone will be very excited that I'm on here, because it's like, that's Trisha.

[Trisha Paytas]

But.

[Nicole Rafi]

But, like. But for Chronically Online Girl, it is so full circle. It's, like, crazy because you have been on every single wall, even when you don't belong there. Like, somehow I insert you. Like, somehow I figure out how to put you in there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I appreciate that. I feel like any sort of relevancy is good. You know what I mean? I never watch the ones that I'm in because I get scared. I'm always like, oh, let me just not watch in case it's bad.

[Nicole Rafi]

But it's never bad. It's always like, somehow, like, I've put you in as. For example, when I had, like, the Nicki Minaj and Megan Thee Stallion beat.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yes, yes.

[Nicole Rafi]

I put you in as I Spice. And I'm like, well, yes, this is Ice Spice. And sometimes I don't even, like, address it. I'm doing, like, a Stranger Things series right now. So for season one, I was like, yeah, this is young Winona Ryder, and it's you as Lydia Deets. And, like, I don't.

[Trisha Paytas]

I haven't seen that.

[Nicole Rafi]

Oh, yeah. And, like, people in the comments are like, that's. I really thought that was Trisha. I'm like, yeah, it's crazy. It's Winona, literally.

[Trisha Paytas]

So you're a little trolley, too.

[Nicole Rafi]

100%. Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

I didn't know that.

[Nicole Rafi]

Oh, 100%. I edited for the second. I'm doing, like, season by season of Stranger Things, and my friend Holland edited you and, like, the. With the Bicycles film, like, the Stranger Things cast. Like, we're like, are we going to put, like, Trisha into season two? Like, how are we going to incorporate her somehow? And then my friend was like, look up if she's ever ridden a bike. I'm sure she's ridden a bike before. And then that is literally what pops up. Yes, I will. I will have to find it to, like, this bike.

[Trisha Paytas]

I do that. It's so funny. Like, I'll be like, Trisha Paytas acne if I want to show some of my bad skin beforehand. And, like, you can just Google anything. I'm like, yeah, to pay his living room for being online for 20 years. I guess that's the good Trisha Paytas acne. Yeah.

[Nicole Rafi]

You know what? That makes sense. I. My, like searches are not that extensive. Like, for me, it's like, Nicole Rafi boyfriend is Nicole Rafi A lesbian. Like, those are the most.

[Trisha Paytas]

Have you done that? Like, you know those. Like, who does it Was the parody, you know, where they, like, rip it apart, where they do the. Is.

[Nicole Rafi]

Oh, yeah, I should do that. I should do that. Every single one would be. Is Nicole Rafi gay? Is Nicole Rafi a lesbian?

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, really?

[Nicole Rafi]

How is Nicole Rafi connected to Trisha Paytas? Oh, my God. That's. I'm. I'm telling you, that's what they are now.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's gonna be really mind blowing. We have to put, like, a rumor out there. Like, we're like, sisters or something.

[Nicole Rafi]

I'm down for a rumor. I will always. I love a lie.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, same. I'm the chronically lying girl. That's me. I love a lie, too. Let's talk about that. Why is lying so great?

[Moses]

Chronically Online.

[Trisha Paytas]

Online. Yeah, that's. That was good. That's a good one. Where the crying, the online girls.

[Nicole Rafi]

I mean, every episode, like, every. I'm like, Moses is so good with the puns, but, like, that was really fast.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know, I know. He just thinks of these, like, just off the top. Your talent, babe.

[Nicole Rafi]

I used to be a big liar when I was a kid.

[Trisha Paytas]

Me, too. The kid. Where do you think it stems from?

[Nicole Rafi]

I think I wanted attention. I was like. I was an only child, and I was like, my life isn't that exciting. And I was like, how do I become more exciting? And so that. It was. It was stupid lies. It was, like, dumb, stupid lies. Like, I had a boyfriend when I didn't, and, like, he's, like, at a different school.

[Trisha Paytas]

Jerry Jan Brady. George Glass.

[Nicole Rafi]

O2L.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you remember? O2L? Yes, I. Yes.

[Nicole Rafi]

Do you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Tell me.

[Nicole Rafi]

Sam Potter.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my gosh. I haven't heard that name in so long. Yes. He had the earring, right? Yep, yep.

[Nicole Rafi]

And the beanie.

[Trisha Paytas]

And.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah. I went to, like, seventh grade so confidently, and I, like, printed out fake screenshots like, that I made, like, a messaging app, and I'm like, this is my boyfriend, Sam Potterf. And my friends were like, aren't the text supposed to be switched? Like, isn't he supposed to be on the left side? And you're supposed to be on. I'm like, oh, no.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I know. That's how it's meant to be.

[Nicole Rafi]

Oh, wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

So that's. That's what's crazy. Like, I know, like, the gap. What are you, 25, 26. So the gap of a decade, even between us, is, like, the technology that people have to lie. Like, I'm so glad I didn't because I probably would have, but I'm the same as you. I wrote a book. I use that term loosely. Like a little pamphlet that I self published. And it was the Stripper Diaries. And it was based on my. You know, it. We've.

[Nicole Rafi]

My friend and Jake and I, we read it on the. Like, like as a.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like we. We read stripper diaries.

[Nicole Rafi]

No, we read stripper diaries in private. The poems. I do remember. Yes, we read the poems.

[Trisha Paytas]

1. That's what I thought.

[Nicole Rafi]

I remember we did read stripper diaries in private. And then we were like, this feels exploitative and sad and actually that's not. And we were like, this isn't funny anymore and we can't make jokes about this. So then we chose the poems instead. That's what it was. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

You could actually use it because it is like dark. But at the same time, I did like, I put a little like lies in there. And one of them being that I had like an iPhone in like 2006. 6 or something. I don't know. When they came out, someone's like, that did not come out then. And I was like, okay. So they kind of clocked me on that.

[Nicole Rafi]

I. I got called out once, like one time I got called out for it. And then I never, like, ever since then, it's. I'm like a chronic truth teller.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Nicole Rafi]

To like a fault. Like, I admit too much.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think when it saved me just over. I think when it comes to real people, I've always stated by that, like, if there's someone that else that can verify my stories. I've always taken pride in not lying about someone else. You know what I mean? So if it's the vlog squad, if it's like, I'm like, if it can be verified in any capacity, I don't lie about it.

[Nicole Rafi]

Absolutely.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think it's like, because, like when I was a kid, I did get caught up in lies. Being like, that's actually not so.

[Nicole Rafi]

Because I wasn't skilled. I wasn't skilled in it. Now there's a paper trail and everything. Like, I couldn't lie online even if I wanted to.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Nicole Rafi]

I barely talk about like my personal life that much online, but I couldn't even keep up with a lie because it's like, I don't remember what I said a few weeks ago. To be completely honest, I kind of blocked.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's me with even the truth. People will be like, trisha, you did eat a hot dog 10 years ago. Okay. Right, that.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah, that that when I do remember that people being like, trisha did eat a hot dog. Like, and you're like, I never did one time.

[Trisha Paytas]

And, like, for 7 11, I'm like, I love that you know, so much.

[Nicole Rafi]

I have to.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my gosh. Kind of everything. Okay, so you. When we were gonna come see, I said, you want to come see Beetlejuice? And you're like, well, I had tickets for Wednesday. What happened? Okay.

[Nicole Rafi]

Okay. So my cousin Natalia, she's flying in from England because she's, like, the best, and she's just down for anything. She's my, like, my favorite family member ever. And so she was like, I need to come. I need to come see Trisha. She. Yeah, she's British.

[Trisha Paytas]

And so.

[Nicole Rafi]

And so I was like, I'm so down. Come. And she's like, are you busy in November? And, like, I was like, no, not at all. It's the busiest month of my entire life.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is it really November?

[Nicole Rafi]

It is. It is the busiest month of my entire life. And in a good way. In a good way, like, I'm happy about it. And I was like, we'll find time. We will find the time. Bought the tickets and everything. And then I got. Well, I'm, like, sitting there editing my video, like, furiously. The other night, you invited me on the podcast, which, first of all, that was, like, insane, because to get a text from you and that says, hey, Trish. I'm like, am I alive? Like, I feel like I'm like, am I dead? Like, am I actually, like, in a weird afterlife? Like, I feel like I. How do you not dissociate after that? You know what I mean? So.

[Trisha Paytas]

So nice. Well. Well, duh.

[Nicole Rafi]

And so I get that text, and I'm like, my life is insane. Like, this is crazy. This is so full circle. Whatever time goes on, I'm editing my first Stranger Things video. I'm a very, very big Stranger Things fan. Like, a very, very big. Well, I don't shut up about Joe Keery.

[Trisha Paytas]

When you guys talked about that's what it was. Yeah. And we got it wrong. Sorry.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah, I. I'm sure he'll. He'll be fine. He'll be just fine.

[Trisha Paytas]

Have you met him? Not to sidetrack. Yeah, okay. We'll get into that. Okay, so I. I don't know. Stranger Things. We watched One Season, and I don't get it.

[Nicole Rafi]

I'm like, you did an as it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. I did a ASMR video on Euphoria, too, and I never saw Euphoria. I'm very Much. Have you still not? No. We saw two episodes.

[Nicole Rafi]

I think I'm a big Euphoria.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, are you?

[Nicole Rafi]

That's like, Stranger Things. Euphoria are, like, my top favorite show. So the fact that you're going to be on Euphoria is. Everyone kept sending it to me. I'm like, I can't process right now. Like, this is not. Everyone's like, we don't even want the new season. I'm like, I do. I want the new season. We all want the new season. What are you talking about? Like, it's been so long. I'm like, I will wait a lifetime.

[Trisha Paytas]

For the new season.

[Nicole Rafi]

I don't care.

[Trisha Paytas]

I heard the new seasons. Great.

[Nicole Rafi]

I. I heard so, too. I heard someone's in it. That's crazy. But I was, like, editing my Stranger Things video and my manager calls me up. My manager just calls me up and he's like, would you. When does this come out?

[Trisha Paytas]

Tomorrow. Can you say it?

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah, I can. I'm going to the world premiere of it in la. I've never been to a premiere of anything.

[Trisha Paytas]

Tomorrow?

[Nicole Rafi]

Wednesday.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wednesday. Oh, my God.

[Nicole Rafi]

And it's on Thursday. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I see. So you have to leave Wednesday?

[Nicole Rafi]

Yes, I leave Wednesday morning.

[Trisha Paytas]

So exciting.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Beetlejuice will be here for about three more months, but me for three more weeks, so if you want to.

[Nicole Rafi]

I'm dragging. No, no, no. I'm coming. Oh, I'm coming. I get off the plane on Friday. I'm coming to see.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Do you have tickets? You need me get you?

[Nicole Rafi]

I have tickets.

[Trisha Paytas]

Are you sure? Yes. This is so nice that you're doing this. Also. I should also say this is a huge favor for us that you're doing. People, like, love you. Like, I. I love you. Of course I've seen you. And I'm like, okay, she's great. And then I went to go look, and I was like, okay, she's more popular than just her show. You're doing us a favor for being.

[Nicole Rafi]

Talking about. You are.

[Trisha Paytas]

Shut up.

[Nicole Rafi]

No, no. I, like, this is the craziest week of my life. I'm like Trisha and Stranger Things. And I'm like, I don't.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm not.

[Nicole Rafi]

I'm not.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, it's just aligning. It's all aligning. I feel like when there's something, like, good like that here that we found out the Wicked premiere was in New York too this year. And we're just like. When we got the invite for that, we're just like, oh, my gosh. Yeah, it Was meant to be. And it's on the one day off of Beetlejuice.

[Nicole Rafi]

How do you do? What do you do at a premiere? Well, okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Have you been to one?

[Nicole Rafi]

No, never. And I don't have a plus one. I'm all alone.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, do you get a plus one or you just don't. You're not choosing to bring one?

[Nicole Rafi]

No, I don't get one.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, so you have to go alone?

[Nicole Rafi]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Ooh, okay. Well, I'll tell you. I'll tell you.

[Moses]

It's better for the pictures, really.

[Nicole Rafi]

Oh, tease pictures of me. I'll stand on the red carpet and all the cameras will go down. They're like, that is.

[Trisha Paytas]

Can I tell you, that's my biggest fear, too. And, like, not gonna lie at Wicked. I'm not gonna lie. I only got one gatty image. Yeah. I was like, ooh, okay. But that's fine. You gotta just own it. If nothing else, I do love the flop videos, too, of people posing with no one take. Like, I kind of love that. Honestly, you kind of have to just go with it.

[Nicole Rafi]

That's so true.

[Trisha Paytas]

I like, it's.

[Nicole Rafi]

This is exposure therapy. Like, severe exposure therapy. And so you're gonna do great.

[Trisha Paytas]

Honestly, like, I've only been to one premiere, so I'm not an expert by any means, but I just think when you're such a fan and people know you're a fan, you've done all the videos. Did they. So they reached out to your manager? Were you trying. Anyway, like, really, how do we get into this? Or.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah, I wouldn't shut up about it. I kept. I kept bugging my manager. I'm like, any. Any and every. Like, a room that I was ever in, I would tell people and I'd be like, I'm such a huge Stranger Things fan. If you ever hear anything about it, or, like, if you know anybody to get me in the right rooms, like, I will go.

[Trisha Paytas]

I will do anything.

[Nicole Rafi]

Worked out.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, are you asking questions or you're just going?

[Nicole Rafi]

I think I'm just going. Like, I think I'm just going, like, to just vibe and cry and be. I'm taking my cousin with me to la.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my gosh. Have a great time, right?

[Nicole Rafi]

And I was like, I'm so sorry. I. I, like, I can take you to some of the events, but I can't take you to the premiere. And she goes, it's okay, love. It's okay. I'm gonna go to the pub. And I'm like, that's. You're the best.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's British. Like, she was born there. She became British.

[Nicole Rafi]

She, like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did she just get the accent?

[Nicole Rafi]

Ask someone that you can't just ask. Born in Poland.

[Trisha Paytas]

My.

[Nicole Rafi]

Like, half my family is from Poland, and so she moved to England. I think she's gonna kill me. I don't know, a few years old or something like that, but she's. She's British, so even when she speaks Polish, she has a British accent.

[Trisha Paytas]

Got it. Okay.

[Nicole Rafi]

So when I speak Polish, I have, like, a very American accent. So it's like we're like. We're very similar personality wise. But then that's like my evil British twin.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. I love that. That's kind of everything. She's gonna have a fun week. You're gonna have a fun week. Oh, my gosh, I'm glad you were able to do this before you drive to la.

[Nicole Rafi]

I'm so happy.

[Trisha Paytas]

So fun. That's gonna be. When does it come out? Do we want to do a Stranger Things plug Thanksgiving? Thanks.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

So are you gonna just be sat.

[Nicole Rafi]

Oh, I'm gonna be sad.

[Trisha Paytas]

I.

[Nicole Rafi]

Every Tuesday, I do, like, a rewatch party with all my friends at my apartment. And sometimes. Sometimes we have three people. Sometimes we have, like, 17 people that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Come over every Tuesday.

[Nicole Rafi]

Every Tuesday for, like, the last two months. I made a calendar so that we're, like. So that we're caught up to date.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. How many people are coming to these?

[Nicole Rafi]

Sometimes two, sometimes 17. But. But always someone's there.

[Trisha Paytas]

So that's your number one. Stranger Things. And it's the last season. There's no more seasons.

[Nicole Rafi]

No. Yeah, that's it.

[Trisha Paytas]

What's your take on David Harbour? Hot Topic. Right?

[Nicole Rafi]

I wrote that down. I wrote that down. God.

[Trisha Paytas]

God.

[Nicole Rafi]

That Lily album. Album. Lily Allen album. It's so good.

[Trisha Paytas]

You love it.

[Nicole Rafi]

It's. It's a beautiful, amazing album. I know. She's like, you know, she's in her own controversy as well. Everybody and their mom has been like, please make a chronically online girl. Lily Allen and David Harbour video. And I'm like, do you want me to go to this premiere yesterday?

[Trisha Paytas]

I see. Right, right. Okay. So you're like, no comment. Right.

[Nicole Rafi]

I'm like, but.

[Trisha Paytas]

But you have to do that if you're a fan of something. Sometimes you just have to be like, right. I just want to go, guys. This is my dream. Right?

[Nicole Rafi]

Right. No, but I. I listened to Lily Allen when I was a kid. Like, I was way too young to be listening to her. Like, she had, like. Have you listened to her?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Recently. The recent album.

[Nicole Rafi]

Okay. You should listen to her, like old songs like you and Alfie. And like they're very like raunchy, like you and comfy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Like they're.

[Nicole Rafi]

That's two separate songs. Like, is one song. Coffee is another song.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Oh, Alfie from Game of Thrones. She was married to.

[Nicole Rafi]

That's her brother.

[Trisha Paytas]

No. Okay. Is that what the song's about? Yes, his name's Alfie.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah, that's her brother. Yes, Alfie.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not dating. Okay.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yes, not dating.

[Trisha Paytas]

But.

[Nicole Rafi]

But, yeah. So she like loves using names in her songs. Like she's not afraid of like say, saying that. That is so funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love, I love the little.

[Nicole Rafi]

Oh, her husband, Alfie Alfred. Alf.

[Trisha Paytas]

Alfie Allen.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah. Alfie Allen. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. That is so.

[Nicole Rafi]

It's like, it's like a whole song about him and how he's like, was a degenerate and like smoked a lot of weed and was. Oh, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So it was like an exposing on her brother kind of.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah. Like teasing him and so crazy. And the music video was crazy. And so I watched that as a kid and so I, you know, I am hoping and praying that the newest allegations about David Harbour are obviously not true.

[Trisha Paytas]

From Millie Bobby Brown.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Those are crazy.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yes. I am hoping that that is not true because that is so horrible. I love Millie Bobby Brown. I think she's so cool and like talented.

[Trisha Paytas]

Where did those. How did that come out? Did she do an interview? Because I just briefly saw it this morning.

[Nicole Rafi]

It said that it was at the Daily Mail. But Daily Mail is known to not be the most accurate. But then Twitter, the comment, like the. You know how on Twitter you can add like.

[Moses]

Yeah, community.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah, the community note. Somebody said it was a Lily Allen friend who reported that? The Daily Mail. I'm not sure. I obviously hope it's not true because I don't want like a 50 year old man bullying like a 20 year old. Obviously.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. And she was like so young when she like started to. It's like.

[Nicole Rafi]

Absolutely.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is she your fave from the show?

[Nicole Rafi]

Well, no, it's Joe Kerry.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, okay. Wait, what is it about? I'm. This, this is really like, maybe if I get into it, I'll like hyper fixate too, because I love a hyper fixation. Okay, but what is it about him or his character or can you separate the two?

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sometimes I can. Sometimes I just love like just one.

[Nicole Rafi]

One version.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I don't know. Like I love Colin Bridgerton. I don't know anything about the person, but if I saw the person, I'd be like, oh, my God, it's Colin.

[Nicole Rafi]

No, I. First of all, I love him as a musician. I love him as him as Steve, obviously, but I love him as Joe. It seemed, from what it seems like if something comes out about him, I remember, like when his new album came out, I literally posted on my story. I was like, please don't become weird and date someone like 20 years younger than you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Don't manifest that girl.

[Nicole Rafi]

No, I'm saying, like, I don't. I really don't want that because that would break my heart. I've already had my heart broken by like a singer who has done that. Julian Casablancas from the Strokes already. Like, my heart has already been shattered and torn. And so he just seems like he genuinely is like such a pure hearted person. I don't, I don't know him, but from what everyone has said about him, that he's so kind and I love. He's like an activist and he like, is a great musician and it seems like a nice person and like a feminist.

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Nicole Rafi]

No. You don't see it?

[Trisha Paytas]

I, I don't know. I don't. You know, I don't know. Maybe I need to watch, like, the character more, you know, maybe. Because when I saw, when I watched what episode. What season did we watch? We watched the one with the, the. Yeah, we watched that one.

[Nicole Rafi]

4.

[Trisha Paytas]

The Chrissy Wake up.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yes. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

And yeah, the one that stands out to me is the Chrissy, Wake up guy.

[Nicole Rafi]

Eddie.

[Trisha Paytas]

Eddie.

[Nicole Rafi]

Joseph Quinn. He's beautiful.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Gorge. So I didn't even know there was another male in this cast.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah. Because all eyes were on because. And, and Joseph Quinn comes in later. Like, he's only in season four.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I haven't watched the other season.

[Nicole Rafi]

I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe I need to watch like season one to get it. I remember Jimmy Fallon doing it parody dressed as like, Joe and I think so. So you just like his overall?

[Nicole Rafi]

I, I, that's, yeah. The gentleman of my life. Like, that's.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is he single? Do you care? I. Are you single? I guess we don't know that.

[Nicole Rafi]

I have a long term boyfriend who loves him just as much as I do.

[Moses]

Oh.

[Trisha Paytas]

Can I say I love that though? I think we should normalize. Like, I love when people are in like, great relationships, but also, like, have a celebrity crush. I think that's so normal for girls. Guys, I don't think you can have that. I'm sorry, does your boyfriend have a. No.

[Nicole Rafi]

You know what?

[Trisha Paytas]

That's the funniest part.

[Nicole Rafi]

Part is if you ask him, if you grill him on it, like, do you have a celebrity crush? He's like, I, I can't think of one. I can't think of.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's Moses too. I'm like, you love her. You think she's cute.

[Moses]

He's like, I know she makes them up for me. I know you like. I'm like, no, absolutely not.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm getting better.

[Nicole Rafi]

That really is how it is with me and Adam. Like, he is very much so. Like, he, he obviously trusts me. And like, I talk about a lot of celebrities online and stuff. Like, these are beautiful. People and like. And then he knows when I actually am in their presence. How? Like, I met Joe on the street of New York because I was talking about him. Because what am I not talking about him? I was talking him to a friend. And then my friend goes, oh, no, I fear that is him sitting right there. Like, I am so sorry.

[Trisha Paytas]

What? Wait, what? You were talking about him and he's just like, behind you, right?

[Nicole Rafi]

And how am I not supposed to slip into psychosis? Like, when something happens like that? Like, how are you not supposed to be like, oh, I'm psychic, I'm an oracle? Like, no, but you are.

[Trisha Paytas]

I believe in that. It gives me chills. Can I tell you Shell that happened with me with Draw earlier, People know about this? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But same thing where it's like, what do you mean? Like, he's going to come in and say hi. And they're like, gerard Way. And I was like, why? Like, no, but there is something. I think there is something with us, that we are oracles or something like that. Okay, so you're in New York. Is this New York? And you're at a diner. Where are you?

[Nicole Rafi]

I'm just walking on the street. I was about to go see Weapons. I was about to go see Weapons this year. Yes. This was like a few months ago. I was about to go see Weapons with my friend Katie. And we're walking around on the street, we had time to kill, and she's like, I really want a Diet Coke. And I'm like, let's find you a Diet Coke. Like, let's walk around. We're walking around the streets of New York looking for a Diet Coke. I'm telling her, I'm like, yeah, I just saw Joe in concert a few weeks ago. Like, he was amazing. Like, he's the light of my life. Love him so much. Like, I. And then literally, because his head is.

[Trisha Paytas]

So goddamn big and like the size.

[Nicole Rafi]

The size.

[Trisha Paytas]

I wonder if it has a bigger head. I have a 28 inch circumference. Joe, how much is your head?

[Nicole Rafi]

We want to know what's average for women?

[Trisha Paytas]

I would say probably 22. Anytime I give my. Yeah, like a good six inch. Like a baby's head. No, because whenever I get my wig, they're like, that's a huge head. Are you sure? Really? Yeah. People are gagged. Yeah. And I'm a men's size 8. Like a fitted cap.

[Nicole Rafi]

There's men's sizes for hats?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. If you get the fitted, like, baseball hat, there's like seven and three quarters, seven and a half. I'm the eight, which is, like, probably the biggest hat you can get.

[Nicole Rafi]

Did you always have a big head? I don't think you have a big head. I'm just asking on behalf of your mom. That's.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, right, right. I think. I think she pushed me out, too. No C section here. But he has a big head, which is good to know. I know.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yes, it's big. And it's like. It's like. It's like a Lego head. Like, it's very. But he knows.

[Trisha Paytas]

But he knows. Yeah, he loves it, and it's gorgeous.

[Nicole Rafi]

And it's great, and his hair is big, and so, like, you can spot him from a mile away. And so we're walking on the street and, like, those outdoor patio things, and we're like, I don't know, like, 20, 30ft away. And my friend goes, oh, no. So, like, that is Joe Kerry right there. Like, that. That is unfortunate. That is him. And then she was, like, talking to me. She's like, what do you want to do? What would make you feel safest? As if, like, I'm about to, like, report a crime. Like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, Gen Z is being woke. Like, what can I do to help you in this situation? I love that.

[Nicole Rafi]

And I was, of course, like, profusely sweating because, like, that's just me. And it's also, like, 95 degrees outside in New York. And I was like. I was wearing a Joe shirt. Like, I was.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's.

[Nicole Rafi]

That's how sick it is.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, that's crazy.

[Nicole Rafi]

That's how sick and twisted it is, because I was. I'm such a big fan of him that obviously I would be wearing his merch. But to be talking about him and wearing his merch and to randomly see him, that's in your neighborhood, that makes me sick to my stomach.

[Trisha Paytas]

And just Joe, not Stranger Things. Just.

[Nicole Rafi]

Just Joe. It's. It's like, his music, and it's like an old, like, vintage version of vintage. It's like. It's like, like, from a few years ago.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Yeah.

[Nicole Rafi]

And so we were like, what do we. What do we do? And so I was like, okay, I'm gonna casually try and walk past him. I don't want to interrupt him. He's eating his food with his friends. I'm just gonna, like, show the shirt, and I'm just gonna, like, flash it. And so, like.

[Trisha Paytas]

I walk past, and.

[Nicole Rafi]

Then I turn around, and then I literally, like, I take my shirt and I go and I, like, walk past him. He does not look my way.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, really?

[Nicole Rafi]

It does not look.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I'm confused. So are you on the sidewalk and he's eating on the sidewalk?

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah, like. Like, you know those, like, booths that they, like, build out, like, kind of like on the side of the road.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yesterday at Carmine's, I was like, I've never seen this before. Yes. Okay.

[Nicole Rafi]

So I'm on the sidewalk, and he's, like, sitting there, and I'm like. And try to show him, but he doesn't. He doesn't look at me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, no.

[Nicole Rafi]

His eyes are averted. He's like, you know, he's averting his gaze. And so I was like, oh, no, what do we do now? I'm. I'm really sweating at this point. We're almost late for weapons. And I'm like, I. I don't know. And then he's. He's like. He's done with his food. He's, like, making his way towards the door, and he's, like, having a cigarette, like, with his friends. And I'm like, this is my moment. This is my moment. And instead of, like, being, I don't know, beautiful, graceful, gentle being, like, hello. Hi. Hey. Like, my only reaction was, hi, Joe.

[Trisha Paytas]

And so that's it.

[Nicole Rafi]

Well, I was like, hey. And I, like, just show him my shirt. And then he's like, whoa, vintage.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that's you.

[Nicole Rafi]

And my friend was recording, and I had no idea which. God bless her, because I blacked out. I don't remember any of it. I'm just rephrasing it from, like, what I saw in the video.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Nicole Rafi]

And he was so cool. And I was like. I was just talking about you, and I just. I. And I don't get, like, that with people, really. Like, I'm a lot better after meeting quite a few, like, influencers and celebrities. I'm not as this one. No. Like, I made a complete. There was no chill at all.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, you're like, this is my every. Like, you're wearing a shirt. I think if you're wearing a shirt, someone always go up to them, no matter what, even if you're bothering. I think so. I think the person would be. Oh, I love. Wait, this is everything. Oh, my gosh. I love it.

[Nicole Rafi]

My. My friends gifted me this, and I.

[Trisha Paytas]

Love that it's underneath your jacket. So cool. I know.

[Nicole Rafi]

I know. I was like. But I was like, oh, but I look like a little baby fawn today.

[Trisha Paytas]

I do love this. It's everything. No, but if someone came, like, if someone had a. If someone has A shirt on me, and I'm like, in the airport, I'd be like. Or like, adjusters. I'm like, no, whatever you want. Like, I would literally stop everything for you because that's amazing.

[Moses]

Adam Sandler purse.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Wore it every day. Every day, everywhere. For the purpose of if he's around.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses]

It will give her the opportunity to. Hey. Just like that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, same.

[Moses]

Hey.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, oh.

[Moses]

Look at the person open the conversation.

[Nicole Rafi]

I should be wearing Joe Merch every single day.

[Moses]

That if you make a purse, that's easy because you can carry it all the time.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. There's really easy ones to find your favorite picture. So I think. Because I think when you have the shirt, it's like, yeah, like, they. They know. Okay, so is that your only interaction then? Is that it? Or you just leave? Do you ask for a picture?

[Nicole Rafi]

I did not ask for a picture. I was just like, thank you so much. I didn't know what to say. I was like, great shirt, by the way. Yeah. As if he designed it.

[Trisha Paytas]

And.

[Nicole Rafi]

And then he's like. He was like, looks great. And then I was like, did he talk like that?

[Trisha Paytas]

Asmr. Yeah. He's like, looks great.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, thanks. Bye.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah. And I was like, okay, bye.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. That was a good interaction.

[Nicole Rafi]

And then I had to go sit in weapons, which was not scary at all because the most terrifying thing that ever could have happened to me just happened.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was going to say, how do you even, like, come down for you.

[Nicole Rafi]

I was on a high for weeks.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I called Moses after Gerard Way. I was like, we're ordering masters. We have to celebrate. I need to have a debrief tonight. Like, we need to steak. Like, it was like a whole. Like, I was shaking the whole time. I said, there's just. There's nothing else that could top this. And that's the moment. 2025 is our year. What is your year?

[Nicole Rafi]

You were born 1999.

[Trisha Paytas]

I wonder if it's your year. I'm trying to think, like, do you know your Chinese zodiac? Yeah, I think.

[Nicole Rafi]

The rabbit, I think.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. And Your birthday is September 10, 1999. Okay. Interesting. I'm just trying to figure out, like, if it's like, it must be like, something new or year. Like, would you say that's the highlight of your year? What?

[Nicole Rafi]

Meeting Joe.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Nicole Rafi]

I feel like this year in general is, like, such a high. Like, I feel like they're like, I can't complain about life. I really can. Yeah. Like, I just. I'm so. Every day, I'm just like, so grateful. Like, it has been just really a good year. Like, every opportunity that has presented itself, it's amazing.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I think when you're, like, grateful like that, like, more things come to be grateful for. I feel like for so long, it, like, sulked and been, like, this year sucks and everything's awful, and, like, more things become awful. I'm just like, okay, this is what's good about this year. Like, more good thing. Even like today when we're looking at Hot Topics, we were, like, talking in the car because, you know, there's always some drama, and I'm kind of like, I'm on such a good high right now. I'm like, let's just keep it cute. Like, let's talk about.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not so serious things. You know what I mean? Because sometimes. Yeah, sometimes it's fun to get caught up in the drama, and then sometimes I'm like, well, it's just a good week. Like you said, it's a good vibes for you.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Good vibes here in New York. I love, love, love New York. And I'm like, I just want to keep good vibes coming.

[Nicole Rafi]

How excited are you?

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm.

[Nicole Rafi]

It's like the day before Christmas.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my gosh. Yes. And especially because I know everything now. I'm very, like, confident.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I got to do my put in yesterday with the whole cast. Are you a Broadway girl? Oh, you do? I didn't know that. Okay. So, yeah, like, getting to be with the whole cast and being on stage has been, like, so super cool. And, like, I. I don't know, it just feels really. And the fact I get to do it eight shows a week is, like, fun because I've been immersed in, like, the Netherworld and Beetlejuice world, and so it's very far out of reality. So when I do go on TikTok and I see whatever drama is happening, it's kind of like, that's not my world. I'm in other world right now, you know? And it's. It's such a. It's. It's probably why I've always want to be an actress. It's just because it's, like, freeing. It's to be, like, in a different world and stuff like that.

[Nicole Rafi]

You're also, like, in this is, like, the real world. Like, you know what I mean? Like, in a sense, like, sometimes when bad things happen online, like, Or I'll get, like, negativity online, and it's. It's stupid stuff. It's like, especially on Twitter or. Or Something like that. I think to myself, like, my, like, everyday regular life is so awesome. Like, I cannot even pretend to entertain this for a second.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Nicole Rafi]

Because this isn't real. You know what I mean? I feel like you handle that so well because you have. First of all, it's so cool what you have done on the Internet in general, like, with your growth as, like, a human being in person. And I think a lot of people are very stuck in a way that they wish that everybody were miserable. You know what I mean? Like, it's easier for people to wish that others were miserable, stagnant, stayed the same, never grow, never learned from their wrongdoings, and just, like, stayed the same person that they were at one point in their life or, like, a low point in their life. And to see them, like, grow and evolve and change, they're like, no, like. Like that.

[Trisha Paytas]

That.

[Nicole Rafi]

No, actually, I would rather not. That makes absolutely no sense to me. Why would you rather not somebody be happier and grow and fulfill things that they want to do in life?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Nicole Rafi]

Like, what? Would you rather that person die? Like, do you want that person, too?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think some people. No, no, absolutely.

[Nicole Rafi]

Absolutely.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think you're right. I can answer that. And the flip side of it is, like, when I was miserable, too, like, I hated seeing people, like, get a boyfriend, get married, because you're just like, no. Like, you're also supposed to be miserable. I think half the Internet can be like that. I think there is. There is, like, a great group of people out there, too, that are happy for growth sometimes.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I get a lot of people being like, oh, like, either shows that, okay, I can get out of this darkness, or just people who are already happy. Like, I like to see people happy. Like, I love hearing stories of, like, you getting this. But maybe old Trish, if I was, like, 26 and you're like, I get to go to a Stranger Things premiere, I'd be, like, instantly jealous. And I'd be like, how that evil. I'd be like, oh, my God, that's, like, not fair. Like, you just started. Why are you. You know what? I. But I think when you're. Yeah. Also in a very happy place, you're like, oh, my God, that's so good. And you just realize there's enough for everybody to do everything they want.

[Nicole Rafi]

Oh, my God, there's more than enough for everybody. And I think, like, I just moved to New York literally a year ago. Like, oh, I didn't know. Oh, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

From where?

[Nicole Rafi]

Philly. I went to school in Philly. I'M from, like, Pennsylvania.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Nicole Rafi]

And so I went to school in Philly, lived there for three years, and then my boyfriend lives in New York. And so I was like, all right, time to close the long distance. We've been together for eight years.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow, that's amazing.

[Nicole Rafi]

Thank you. And so we were like, we finally have to close the gap. And I was like, also, like, I can do work things in New York. Like, I'm like, there are so many more opportunities in New York that I'm, like, keeping myself back from because I feel like I don't deserve them.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Nicole Rafi]

And so there's more than enough opportunities for everybody.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Nicole Rafi]

You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

And.

[Nicole Rafi]

And so, like, I love seeing other people thrive. Most of my friends are not on the Internet or, like, doing Internet things. And so I'm happy to see them, like, succeed in their field and be happy in what they're doing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Cheering them on.

[Nicole Rafi]

Exactly.

[Trisha Paytas]

Have you changed it now where you're like, no, I am deserving of all these opportunities.

[Nicole Rafi]

More so.

[Trisha Paytas]

More.

[Nicole Rafi]

More. I used to do this thing, like, where I was like, I would call myself, like, oh, I'm the unemployed friend. Like, I would make fun of myself.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Nicole Rafi]

And be like, oh, what's Nicole doing on, like, a random Tuesday? Like, her random side quest? And then I'm like, why am I being mean to myself and pretending that I'm not working hard for, like, 40 plus hours a week like, other people? Like, why am I pretending? Is it as difficult as some other people's jobs? Maybe not. But, like, am I still working hard? Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Nicole Rafi]

And like, I used to always say that I'm a scammer. Like, I used to always be like, I scammed my way into this. Like, I don't deserve this. I don't deserve. Good things happen to me. Like, I am, like, the number one scam artist. But more and more, I'm trying to be like, no, I did work hard for this. Like, I. I did really work hard. And I. And I know what I do behind the scenes, and I know. And, yeah, two things can be true at once. You can. You can have, you know, a more leisurely life where it's like, the freedom for me to make YouTube videos on my silly little wall while still simultaneously being like, no, I do work hard, and I do deserve to have fun opportunities.

[Trisha Paytas]

And your talent is very good, I think. Even if they just, like, vlog your life. I'm like, okay, yeah, people are watching. That's a talent. But you are actually. You do do so much research. You Put so much work into your videos. You're editing your research like it is. Is really impressive. So, I mean, what you do is, like, another level than just an influencer. But. Yeah, changing the mindset is a big thing, because I'm very much that, too. I'm like, maybe I don't. But then I'm like, well, I don't know. For 20 years, I pretended to be on Broadway. So it's like all that work. I'm like, well, look at what it's doing.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah, but look at what it did.

[Trisha Paytas]

I got a little part on there.

[Nicole Rafi]

My. That's not. It's not little. It's not.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, no. I'm very lucky. Like I said, I'd be a tree, you know, I'd be anything. You know what I mean? But I'm very.

[Nicole Rafi]

I feel that. Yeah, I feel that.

[Trisha Paytas]

You.

[Nicole Rafi]

Did you see, like, Patty Paddington on the West End. I need to be inside of the suit one day.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, oh, you want to be in Paddington? You want to be in the bear?

[Nicole Rafi]

I need to be in the bear.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, that looks so cute. I. Someone's in it. Is that how it works?

[Nicole Rafi]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Nicole Rafi]

So I think there's a little person inside of the suit.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Nicole Rafi]

And then there's a puppeteer off stage. And so it's like two people.

[Moses]

Wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because it looks. It's surreal to see. I obviously see the curtain call, and I'm like, whoa. Like, it looked like a little, like, yes, AI or something.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah, I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. Shout out Paddington, the musical.

[Moses]

Musical.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know.

[Nicole Rafi]

I think I'm a little too tall to be in it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Are you? Have to. I didn't know.

[Nicole Rafi]

I'm five' seven. I'm five' seven.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh.

[Nicole Rafi]

So I think I'm a little too tall for Paddington, but maybe not. They have a Stranger Things play. I want to be the deboggin just for one night. Just like, as, like a make a wish thing for me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is it still happening?

[Nicole Rafi]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

I remember. I remember. I think my director of my show went and did something for Stranger Things because it was, like, earlier this year, it opened. Was it February?

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I remember people going, really good. Oh, you've been seven times.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah. Well, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is it a musical?

[Nicole Rafi]

No, it's a play. Thank God it's not a musical. I can't imagine if the debugging started singing, I'd be like, shot.

[Trisha Paytas]

Stranger Things. That's very much Beetlejuice, the Musical. You're kind of like, does that make sense? And you're like, that does make sense. It does make sense. It does make sense because it's, it's.

[Nicole Rafi]

It'S campy, you know. I love Beetlejuice.

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[Nicole Rafi]

I'm so I've never seen Beetlejuice, like, even when it was on Broadway before, I never got the chance to see it really. So it's my first time seeing it, like, not as a movie. I, I, I thought about coming as Lydia Deetz today because I, like, have bangs again. And I thought about it, but I was like, let me be chill. Let, Let me, Let me be normal.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I love. You're like, is there a theme? I love that you were just going to come in theme. You know me, I would love a theme. I brought two pink dresses from la. So I was like, well, this is one of two that I'm wearing that makes total.

[Nicole Rafi]

If, if anything, I was like, I will totally. Like, if there was a theme, I'd be like, sure, whatever. I'll go into my prop closet and pull something.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love, I love that you're ready for it. That's very.

[Nicole Rafi]

But I was like, let me, Let me be normal for once.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I know. I tried.

[Moses]

I try to make it a Beetlejuice everything.

[Nicole Rafi]

And I would, I would.

[Moses]

I got to wear pink.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. Even. Yes. Yeah. Tomorrow we're doing an interview with our two. Our two leads, Justin, Colette and Isabella. Yeah. And so I was like, oh, I'll wear the Beetlejuice pan. I'm like, I need a little pink something. Because it's just like the podcast. But, yeah, I mean, really excited.

[Nicole Rafi]

You're busy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it's been, it has been busy, but it's been great. We're trying to fit as much as we can into New York, you know, and get the full experience.

[Nicole Rafi]

My mom, she. She, like, knows very few. She knows what I do, obviously, for work, but she doesn't obviously understand it to its fullest degree. You know what I mean? And so, and so she knows some YouTubers. Like, the only ones that she really remembers is, like, Jeff Wittek, because she's like, oh, his last name's Polish. And so she's like.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's like Vitek.

[Nicole Rafi]

And during the pandemic, I, like, showed her his videos, like, his, like, documentaries that he made. She knows Dobrik because he's bad and she's Polish. So, like, all of these are like, she cares about that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Nicole Rafi]

And of course, she's like, oh, Trisha. And so when I told her that, I was like, yeah, she's going on Broadway for three, three weeks, and then she has her own show then afterwards. And my mom's like, she just had a baby. And I, I'm like, yeah, Mom. She goes, is she. She was like, she was pregnant, you Were pregnant when I met you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Nicole Rafi]

But I. But, like, I did not know that that was in. You're insane for doing so much.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I.

[Nicole Rafi]

So cool for that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Thank you. I really do love. Like, I. Like, I'm like, you where I'm just like. I feel like this. This is like a moment that I have, like, 19 years just trying to make. And so, like, getting to do all these opportunities this year, I'm just taking all of them. So, yeah. Pregnant or just, you know, new. New baby. I'm just like, I'm gonna try and take all of it. And luckily, I have, like, Moses and my mom here to help. It's been so great. Yeah. When we met, I was also really, really sick, so I didn't get to fully, like, I was, like, the worst sickness of my entire life. And I was pregnant, so I couldn't take medication, so I was just, like, couldn't talk, trying to make it through. So it was like, a weird timing, but I'm big glad. I'm glad you got to come to it. I'm so glad.

[Nicole Rafi]

When Oscar was like, you want to go backstage? I was like, am I allowed? Hello.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah, he said you stopped and talked to buzz it Ben Platt or something back.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah, we saw Ben Platt backstage. And then I was like, oh, my God. Hello. Like, with his husband.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then.

[Nicole Rafi]

No, you. Well, I was nervous, but then I started hearing your laugh, and I was like, oh, like, this feels. I don't know how to put it. Like, I. I was like, I'm safe.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like. Like, that's the nicest thing. Yeah.

[Nicole Rafi]

I heard your laugh, like, from the outside, and I was like, oh, wait, I'm safe. And you were so kind and so sweet and so normal. And then before I knew it, I was in a car with your dad and you and your makeup artist, and you were squished.

[Trisha Paytas]

Where were you?

[Nicole Rafi]

I was in the very front so that you didn't have to sit in the front so that everybody could see, because everybody was coming up to the car.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Nicole Rafi]

And I think. I don't remember who in the car was like, trisha, don't stop rolling down the window. But you kept saying hi to.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like. Because they were following us. And, you know, New York's so slow. Like, it's not like we're out running them. So I'm like, well, hi. And everyone's like, roll up the window. Yes, it's fine.

[Nicole Rafi]

And we were in Times Square, and. And, yeah, the restaurant was, like, right next to the theater. But we had to circle the block a couple times. And so we're like, in Times Square, and you're like, hi. I. I don't remember who said, like, for your safety, like, you don't have to.

[Trisha Paytas]

Probably my producer, George. Oh, okay. Yeah, I think they hopped in.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And, yeah, I think everyone was. They didn't want me to even do stage door, but I'm like, but that's Broadway.

[Nicole Rafi]

No, they were so adamant about you not doing stage door. They were like, it is not safe. And you're like, no one's gonna hurt me. Yeah. You were like, my fans are the nicest people over there. They're not gonna hurt me.

[Trisha Paytas]

They were just like, we don't have enough security. We didn't know. And I was like, but this is. This is the moment to do it. Oh, I'm glad you were there. Yeah. To me, I remember just being so out of it. I was like, it's so, like, my head. But I. I remember. And Oscar always talks, like, so highly of you when you're, like, in LA and stuff. So anytime you're in la, I want to come. Join us for Hot Topics. Come because, you know, or just to come. It's not. This is very big. It's not even as big. It's like a quarter of this room, but no, like, such a big studio.

[Nicole Rafi]

It looks massive. Like, the studio that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, ours. Ours is, like, in our little, like, movie room. But would you ever do Twitch irl?

[Nicole Rafi]

I don't know. I don't know. I. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Streamer. Not a live girl. No.

[Nicole Rafi]

I mean, sometimes I'll go on Live on Instagram, like, once a year maybe. And I'm like, oh, my God, there's so many of you in here. And, like, I feel like I stumble over my words. I'm. I'm good behind the camera.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like.

[Nicole Rafi]

Like, I'm like. I'm like, I'm good to just. I'm For a planned event. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, interesting. I feel like you would thrive on the live. I saw. Justin Bieber has been a twitcher. He joined Twitch. Have you seen this? What? You haven't seen any of this? No. Yeah, he joined and he was saying, how much negativity is on there? Like, he was not. He's like. I guess they had told him that he was, like, losing his charisma, and he was just like. He's like, do I? Am I losing? Like, he questions that. He's like, you could have 100 nice comments on Twitch. He's like, with that one comment, it's very Lady Gaga. He's like, that one comment sticks out and is like, that's the one you, like, focus on.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I was like. Because we've been talking about Hot Topics a lot, Twitchers and Streamers. Because they're kind of like the IT people now, right? Absolutely. I feel all like we're talking about. Who do we talk about? We should talk about Kai's Net and I show speed. Like, I should speak to that. Like, they get, like, millions of viewers, like, live, and you're just like. Or even, you know, even the girls like, Vanilla Mace and stuff. It's just, like, wild how many people you get. But at the same time, it's like, twitch. Especially girls like the Pokimane and stuff. They get, like, so much hate. Oscar's more into, like, knowing all of this. I'm not really quite sure, but I was like, I want to stream because I thought that'd be, like, so fun, right? To, like, get all those views. But at the same time, I don't know if I could take the negativity.

[Nicole Rafi]

I feel like it's different than when it. Because I think it's this parasocialism of people seeing you in real time and feeling like they really are connected and know you. When I went, I was. My very first time in LA was for the Creators for Palestine Stream. And so that was my first time meeting a bunch of YouTubers and streamers. This was last year.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, not this year with Oscar and Vanilla Mason.

[Nicole Rafi]

No, no, no, no, no, no.

[Trisha Paytas]

That.

[Nicole Rafi]

That was for. I think that was for Creators for Peace. That was for trans. Okay, that this one was for. I was like, one of the founding, like, people who, like, helped with Creators for Palestine. I, like, my job was to try and get, like, people to help join and everything. And so it became so much bigger than we ever expected. And it was amazing.

[Trisha Paytas]

What was it? It was like, fundraising for.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yes, it was fundraising for Gaza and it was for, like, unrwa, pcrf and so, like, for the children. And so we raised $1.6 million, which was awesome. That was like. I never, ever, ever imagined, like, that it would get so big. And, like, we were at the Try Guys studios and, like, they hosted us and everything, and it just became so much bigger than life. But it was so cool. But it was my first time meeting a bunch of YouTubers and streamers. And I remember, like, Hassan Piker was sitting there and, like, talking with all of his, like, like, streaming friends, and he's like, yeah, this girl, like some guy just set himself on fire in. In her yard like the other day, like, like.

[Trisha Paytas]

And.

[Nicole Rafi]

And they're so casual. Not casual in the sense that like. But they're so. And that wasn't their first time.

[Trisha Paytas]

It happens so frequently.

[Nicole Rafi]

So frequently, like this, like, harassment and this type of like. Yeah, this is my fourth, like, stalking charge that I have to. Or my. Whatever.

[Moses]

We signed TwitchCon just now.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah, just I guess because they're. Is it because they're on so much or it's just more. It's way more accessible.

[Nicole Rafi]

I think that's what it is because, like, with YouTube, I'm able to. You know what I mean? Like, I can choose how personal it is. I think someone being able to know when you're going to the bathroom, what you're eating, like what you look like at any hour of the day, I think it makes people a bit more.

[Moses]

If somebody has an obsessive nature and you give them access to 24 7, their obsession really metabolite, like, it gets stronger. They have something, they need that one, and you provide them with that.

[Nicole Rafi]

So YouTube already is like a taste of it. And I think live streaming is just like, like fuel for the fire. And so I think. I don't think I'm cut out for that.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm kind of with you. I like the idea because I do like to see the Kai Senate clips. Like, I like seeing him with like, Mariah Carey. Oh, I want to go do that.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I agree. Or even not getting to edit yourself. I mean, I'm always saying the wrong thing. So I couldn't imagine being live and being like. That's not what I meant. You know what I mean? Because it's like, at least with this I can be like, okay, no, don't. That wasn't the right way to say it. But with live, everything goes to. Which is like, really, really scary. I don't know. I give, I give them props and I get why people like it.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

But yeah, just like watching someone for.

[Nicole Rafi]

Eight hours, I don't know, doxing and like, like, like people getting. What is it called, like, when cops, like, come swat. Swatting. Yeah, swatting, like all of that. Like, that's so I've only had like one like, kind of stalker harassment situation. And after that it completely like, changed my life and like, how I like how I acted online. You know what I mean? I can't imagine that being part of, like, someone's normal. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

You gotta be careful.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Everyone out there has to be careful. When you did the try guys, did you meet them?

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

All of them.

[Nicole Rafi]

Well, not Ned.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, he was already gone. They.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah, he was gone.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was like. I saw. Who was your favorite of all the try guys?

[Nicole Rafi]

Oh, I don't know. Well, it was only Keith and Zach who were there. Eugene was. Eugene couldn't be there. Okay. But it's hard to say. They were both so nice. But Keith is very, very fun. Like, he was, like, doing, like, the Trying food and everything. And, like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, like, were you live? Is that when you were doing it live? I love Keith. I should. I should note, I'm not the first influencer to be casted in Beetlejuice. Keith actually. Remember? That's right. Yes, I. But this is the first. This is an example of, like, jealousy versus, like, excited because. Okay, so, like, good example. Years ago, Grace helped. Got a show on you. She's very. She was on. On the network, and I was, like, so jealous. I was like, that should have been me. I've been here first, like. And so again, just holding myself back when I saw. And obviously she was way more popular and deserved it. Everything that. But then when I saw Keith get Beetlejuice, obviously, again, two totally different fields, I was more excited this time because I was like, ooh, if they're putting influencers in Beetlejuice, maybe they'll start putting influencers in other Broadway shows. So I was, like, really excited about it, not even thinking, like, I could ever, like, get the chance. So I will say, like, shout out Keith for. Because he does a lot of stuff online. He's like a little duo. Have you seen his band where they do Broadway songs and one knows the words and, like, Keith usually does it. So I was shout out Keith for being. I think he was a delivery person in Beetlejuice, but shout out Keith for paving the way for. For influencers. But I love him. But anyways, the Hot topics I was thinking of. We talk a lot about Ned Fulmer because he just.

[Nicole Rafi]

What is he up to? Like, I.

[Trisha Paytas]

Trying things.

[Moses]

He's trying everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's literally.

[Nicole Rafi]

He's literally failing, guys.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's doing everything. Were you. Was it your clip? I saw a clip of someone being like, he does everything. But. Oh, no, it was. It was Spillshout. Spillsh Christie. She was talking about how he will, like, attempt to do things, but he doesn't use the word try ever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, so I'm like, I wonder if he's just, like, banned from trying his. What she had said but try getting off the Internet.

[Nicole Rafi]

Like, try, like, I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what we've been saying to try being faithful.

[Nicole Rafi]

Try. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I think it is a rage made at this point, but. Do you know Bose from Smosh?

[Nicole Rafi]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. She was just on a podcast talking about how she met all the Try guys. What was she doing? She did something where she had to, like, partner up, probably something with Smash or something. And she was saying how loved Keith. She said Keith was the best. Jude was like a cool guy, vibes. And she's like, Ned, though Ned did not give her the time of day. She was like. And it's funny because we were watching this clip in the car and, like, maybe there's not, like, a lot of tea from it. She basically was like, you just as a female, you know when a guy just doesn't want to give you the time of day. Right. And she thought maybe it was like her appearance back in the day. She had acne and her hair was up and she kind of was just a lot different than what she looks like now. And I was telling Moses, I'm like, like, no, I know that feeling. For me, it's like it was for me with, like, Casey Neistat or something. Right. It's like you just know they don't want to talk to you for whatever reason. Mine necessary wasn't looks. I was like, oh, I just know. It was when I was doing, like, the David Dobrik stuff and like, Casey would talk to every single person in the group except for me. And so you get that, like, feeling. So when she was explaining it, I was like, maybe there's not a lot of tea, but I know exactly what she's talking about where you just get the vibe of, like, he just, like, didn't acknowledge her. Just kept. And I like that. So interesting that you can pick up what kind of person.

[Nicole Rafi]

Oh, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, from their energy, especially females.

[Nicole Rafi]

I think when a woman says that a guy is bad news, you listen to them.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right, Right. And she's like, I kind of already knew. I already knew. And she's like, oh, I'll say the tea now because now we know he's awful.

[Nicole Rafi]

Oh, yeah. You know, but when I was at the Try guy studios, like, every photo of him in the office is, like, covered up in some way. Like, like, very ominously, like a flower covering it. Or, like, emotionally.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Nicole Rafi]

The curtain just happens to be over his face. Like, it's.

[Trisha Paytas]

They didn't just take him down.

[Nicole Rafi]

They're like, let's do a new group photos. Like, so many are, like, iconic. Like. Like photos from, I don't know, like, big moments of history. Like, I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

And so I think they gotta take it down. Try Guys.

[Nicole Rafi]

Maybe they have since then. But it did give everyone a good laugh, like, the studio. And we're like, oh, no.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sometimes you have to, like. I had a podcast with someone that, like, no longer friends with, but we had it in our base. We had it. Yeah. I call it a basement. It's our first floor. And we had spent so much time and effort and money that we didn't have into this set. And for so long, I was like, I want to keep these chairs. I want to keep these chairs. But I swear, the minute we got rid of these, like, movie theater chairs that I had, like, loved and bought and, like, couldn't afford, like, the energy shifted, and I was like, this feels new again.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah. You know, so sometimes you just got to get rid of it, unfortunately.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Try Guys. Maybe just put a new group photo up. There's only two of them now left. Right.

[Nicole Rafi]

So I guess there's, like, there. It's a whole trying people, like, trying, trying, trying group.

[Trisha Paytas]

A try group.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah, Try group. I forget what they're called. Next try. Next try. That's what they're really.

[Trisha Paytas]

They rebranded.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yes, They're. They're considered. Next try.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, that makes sense. See, a rebrand was needed, I think.

[Nicole Rafi]

Absolutely.

[Trisha Paytas]

Try Guys is giving Ned Fulmer.

[Nicole Rafi]

Ned is gonna try and, like, take that name back somehow, because he kind of did.

[Trisha Paytas]

He kind of stained it. And that is such a. Sucks for them. I know.

[Nicole Rafi]

I. I do. I do feel. Because what do you do when someone. That's why group projects are like, group like. Like working with a large group of other YouTubers. That scares me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, that's why I started just Trish. Right. It's nobody else.

[Nicole Rafi]

Just me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because you have to. You can only rely.

[Nicole Rafi]

I know. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

I've learned too many times. I try to be in every group. I think every, like, five years, I try to be in a group of people, and I'm like, it always ends in disaster. And maybe I was the problem, hence why I started just rush. Maybe I need to just be solo. Some people thrive in groups. I don't know if I'm one of them.

[Nicole Rafi]

No. Well, you were. You were done dirty. You were. You were.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sometimes I was also depends on where and when and who you ask and all of that. Yeah, sometimes. Sometimes anonymity is there. Did you see it's like, okay, Chris Olsen and his boyfriend. Do you keep up on Tick Tock?

[Nicole Rafi]

Yes, I keep up on Tick Tock.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. I didn't know you're a Tick Tock girly.

[Nicole Rafi]

I'm like, on there, but I'm. You know what? A lot of people are like, I can't be on Tick Tock. It's really bad for my mental health. Like, I have to delete the app off my phone. My for you page is awesome.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, what is yours? Tell us.

[Nicole Rafi]

It's all animals. It's all horses.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're my mom's for you page. She's also on that. She's always giving me, like, animals. Like, yeah, golden retrievers running. I was like, yeah, that's cute.

[Nicole Rafi]

It's like funny cat videos. It's like stupid, like, brain rot type of stuff. Like, it's like old, old people doing funny things.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, I.

[Nicole Rafi]

It's basically like America's Funniest home Videos for me. And I'm like, sitting there cackling, and people are like, Tick Tock has made me really depressed and made me compare myself to others. I'm like, I'm so sorry.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's not me.

[Nicole Rafi]

Let me show you my for you page because it's really good. And I. Yes, but I have seen Chris Olsen and his boyfriend. And then, like, literally, I was like, oh, I wonder who this man is. I could go to the comments. And then apparently, like, the other guy, he already posted his own videos.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's so interesting. I thought that this was interesting because I. I do love Chris Olson. I think he's, like, weird. Gets, like a weird amount of hate for kind of doing nothing. I think. I don't know. But because he's, I think, in New York, I think he's like a theater kid too. He's very much into, like, musicals.

[Nicole Rafi]

They had a photo of him at the Try guys office. Chris Olsen. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

He really is everywhere.

[Nicole Rafi]

He is.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe that's also right. Sometimes people get hate just because they're everywhere.

[Nicole Rafi]

That's how I feel about Bowen Yang. I feel like Bow and Yang is like this ominous presence who's, like, always there somehow in my life.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's. Wait, that would me more. I love bowing.

[Nicole Rafi]

I have nothing, like, I have nothing to say. It's just like, see him never in person online. Like, I've been to concerts and, like. And. And Bowen was there. And like, Like, I. It's like, all. Like, my friend and I, we had this running joke, like, when I lived in Philly. Like, Bowen Yang posters in Philly don't seem like they would have, like, in New York. That makes sense.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Nicole Rafi]

And then Bowen Yang was there and.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, what was the poster of? I don't know.

[Nicole Rafi]

They were promoting something that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Bowen was so funny. I would. I always think of him just being at SNL forever. Like, just being like their Monday thing through Saturday.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yes. So Bowen is somehow always at the seat of the crime.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I love that. And then do you love it or you're like, oh, yeah, I think.

[Nicole Rafi]

I think he's like, one of the funniest people in snl.

[Trisha Paytas]

I agree.

[Nicole Rafi]

I think he's hilarious. But I do forget that that was at one point my ominous figure. That was always my, like, that's Chris Olson.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right, right. The equivalent of that, of him is just being everywhere, which is great. Yeah. So him and his boyfriend. So you said he didn't want to greet couples content, but he has created couples content, but he was trying to keep them anonymous. Okay. Which I was like, interesting, because you said you have your boyfriend, but you don't put him out there like that.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Have you ever shown him?

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So he's not completely private.

[Nicole Rafi]

No, he's not completely private. It's just that he's not. It's. It's nothing more than just. I know how to do social media, and I like social media. But he didn't sign up for that. And he didn't sign up for. I have seven, eight experience, years of experience of hate comments and people criticizing me. I don't want to subject anybody to that that doesn't want to be. And I don't want anyone else's opinions or knowing things about my relationship that they don't have to like. It's nice to have that separation from it. So he's been in them here and there, but he, like. He's like a little engineer nerd. He likes to wind up.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, so completely separate. Did you guys dress up for Halloween?

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So what was the costume? So.

[Nicole Rafi]

We were playing this ahead of time. I was Joyce from Stranger Things.

[Trisha Paytas]

Have you been there for the past 10 years, however long it's been on?

[Nicole Rafi]

It's for the last week, it seems like it. Because that's what I did for. For my last video. And he was David Harper's character.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, no. Bad timing on that one.

[Nicole Rafi]

Bad timing. The costume was already ordered. This was months in advance planned. We had no idea. We just went to one small, like, house party.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Nicole Rafi]

And that was it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. Did you love her in Writer? Because you brought her up like in so many different ways now.

[Nicole Rafi]

I love her. It's crazy that she's technically in three different things on Broadway.

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Trisha Paytas]

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[Moses]

Wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Nicole Rafi]

Heather's Beetlejuice and the Stranger Things. She's an icon. She's beautiful, stunning. Amazing. Icon.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was gonna say Edward Scissorhands. Ever a musical. I feel like they must have done it at some point, some parody of it. But for.

[Nicole Rafi]

For those three to be on Broadway at the same time, that's crazy, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Heather's. Oh, it's back now. Is it on Broadway or off Broadway right now?

[Nicole Rafi]

I think it's on Broadway. Oh, okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because I know it was like, it's been back and forth. Yes. See it. Yeah. No, she is. She is like a dream guest. Like, I love Winon Rider. I forget that she was in Stranger Things because she wasn't in much of the season we watched.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah, not as much, right?

[Moses]

Yeah. I mean, I think you really missed the whole. Because the first season of Stranger Things is what made it. What it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right. With the lights.

[Nicole Rafi]

Just watch my videos. Just watch my recap. I will.

[Trisha Paytas]

Honestly, how many do you have? Well, I'm.

[Nicole Rafi]

I just did season one today. I'm filming season two, and then three and four will happen soon.

[Trisha Paytas]

So you have, like, a mini pot. You should do a Stranger Things podcast. You love it so much.

[Nicole Rafi]

You know, that's not a bad idea.

[Trisha Paytas]

I did a Lost podcast in the last, like, 12 episodes.

[Nicole Rafi]

That's right. I think that might be what we might watch afterwards because we love this, like, whole, like, getting together thing. Like, people coming to my house every Tuesday. Like, it's nice. Like you look forward to it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Nicole Rafi]

Buying snacks and then like, 15 people who have no connection to each other except just watching the show. Like, they're from all different, like, walks of life. It's like, from people from my boyfriend's water polo team, from his work, like my girlfriends, my high school friends. And we're all. All just like, joining together to watch this. So we're thinking about watching Lost next.

[Trisha Paytas]

The Show. Yes. He's never seen it.

[Nicole Rafi]

Well, I've seen, like, a few episodes here and there, but to consecutively watch it as, like, a group. But that's gonna take years.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, we did it in, like, three months. How many.

[Nicole Rafi]

How many episodes is it?

[Moses]

There is. There is a lot. Seven seasons. But you watch it fast. Like, you. You binge it, because it is really good. It gets.

[Trisha Paytas]

We would sit for eight hours a day to watch this show, So I don't know. We also did that, but when I was pregnant with Malibu, I think we sat and watched it for, like, three months straight. Okay. It's really good. Like, it's actually my favorite show.

[Nicole Rafi]

Have you seen Yellow Jackets?

[Trisha Paytas]

Everyone keeps bringing up yellow jackets.

[Moses]

Very different, though, because Yellow Jacket has more of a. Kind of a demonic feeling to it, and Lost does not.

[Trisha Paytas]

She likes demonic, though. She likes Stranger Things.

[Moses]

Doubles more into, like, into maybe mythology than. Yeah, demonic stuff, so.

[Trisha Paytas]

But my sister loves yellow jackets. She just brought up the reason I've been bringing it up, and I'm like, what the hell?

[Moses]

I started watching it immediately. I was like, oh, you would not.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like this cannibalism a little bit.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah, it's kind of.

[Moses]

But it's like, the cannibalism more the scenes of, like, you know, when they summon kind of like.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Entities and things.

[Nicole Rafi]

Kind of like a. Will they, won't they? It's like, are these girls just mentally unwell, or is this actually, like, a secret demonic, like, entity that. That is present? You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

And like it.

[Nicole Rafi]

We still don't have the answer to that. But then last season's coming up, but I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think the more people that tell me about this, I'm like, maybe I should watch it. You didn't think I would like Lost?

[Moses]

And I love Lost, but for a different reason, though. I just thought, you don't know. No, but I know that side of things is, like, when you watch certain scenes, you can imagine them happening in your heart. Like, it's like inviting it in. Wells did not have that last. Did not.

[Trisha Paytas]

I am someone I don't anymore because I stopped watching demonic things, but when I used to. Because I do consider myself a little, like, witchy. So I do believe in, like, different worlds. Even the Stranger Things season we watch how there was, like, this separation. I believe in that completely.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So those things are not good. And specifically with Stranger Things on that one, I was pregnant with Malibu, I remember. And crazy. Because we would, like, watch Home Improvement and have the best dreams. I'D be, like, dreaming and so happy. We watch Stranger Things, the vecna one, and I literally am not kidding. Our whole house became. What was it? Upside down. Like, the whole house was, like, gray, and it was me walking through, and I like, literally, physically sleep walking through the house, and I was, like, possessed for real.

[Nicole Rafi]

Well, it's the scariest season, so maybe don't watch yellow jackets.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is it scarier? It's.

[Nicole Rafi]

It's, like, sick. It's like, it's. It's gross because it. It. There is cannibalism and, like, they. They kind. Yeah. Like, you may have.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not. For me. I'm such a visualizer, and I do really think I'm, like, powerful manifester. So I'm like, yeah, let me not manifest.

[Moses]

Better watch first season of Strangers Things.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Moses]

If you already want to give something a chance, better watch that.

[Nicole Rafi]

Maybe something, like, light, like, euphoria.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was. We tried. That one is too real. Too. That was, like, too real and not to be that girl. But, like, when I met Sam Levinson and when he directed me, I. I was telling him, like, oh, like, it's, like, too real for me those first two episodes, and he was telling me it was, like, loosely based on, like, his, like, life. But then it made more sense because I'm like, okay, if you're writing about something that was, like, trauma traumatic for you, like, I could imagine it be, like, not healing, but sort of, like a way to put it out into art to make sure it feels. So I understood it more. But for me, because I also. There's jokes online about, like, Trisha's living euphoria. Like, that's been her life. And it's like, kind of. You know what I mean? Maybe not again. I haven't seen it, so I don't know, like, the full.

[Nicole Rafi]

Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

But it sounds like something I might have lived.

[Nicole Rafi]

I love Euphoria because I think it's such a beautiful. Like, I love the artistic direction of it. I love obviously, all, like, the actors in it. I love the music. Like, I love the vibe. It reminds me of that time in my life when I got to watch it for the first time, like, with my best friend. Like, I. I just have, like, it has a special place in my heart. And then I was like, let me re. Watch it. Like, let me re. Watch it. I'm like, oh, my God, this is so much sadder and more depressing than I remember.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Nicole Rafi]

And I thought about, like, for the next show for people to come over and watch instead of, you know, Stranger Things. And maybe instead of Lost, I was like, maybe we'll do Euphoria. And I'm like, actually, no one's gonna come. No one's gonna show up because it's dark. It's. It's dark. And also, like, I don't know if people are gonna love being depressed and then seeing boobs the next scene and then, like, laughing and then being sad again. I'm like, maybe let's just watch Lost. Like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, Lost. Lost is very different. Yeah, it's like. It's not necessarily, like, happy feeling one, but it's. It's very different.

[Nicole Rafi]

There's a plane crash, like, first episode in Yellowjackets. So, like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, it's same similar vibes.

[Nicole Rafi]

Oh, and Lost.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, there's a plane crash there. So, like, it's kind of the same thing.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah. Yeah. I need to get back on, like, watching, like, Extreme Makeover Home Edition.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, with Ty Pennington.

[Moses]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's, like, really old. How old were you when I was on.

[Nicole Rafi]

I don't know. I loved hgtv.

[Trisha Paytas]

It must have been reruns. Or was he going for that long? Because I remember when I was a kid, like, eight years old.

[Nicole Rafi]

I. I was watching it. Yeah, I was watching it, like, 8 or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe it's been on that long.

[Nicole Rafi]

It. I. I love type Huntington. I think I had a crush on him when I was a kid.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, who didn't? He was a handyman.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Nicole Rafi]

And, like, the way that he just said, move that bus, I was like, wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're like this. I'm into wow.

[Nicole Rafi]

And so I think I need more positive shows like that in my life.

[Trisha Paytas]

I like positive. Even, like, the Hot Topics. Get positive. Hot Topics. And I loved. Was it. It was Cynthia Rivo and Ariana Grande. Did you see them at the per. They were at some premiere. I don't know where it was. Was it in Africa? Maybe it was Africa. And the girl, I think they invited.

[Moses]

I think they invited influences from Africa. Like.

[Nicole Rafi]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah. It's because the. The. I don't know her name. The. The girl who got her the drinks build on her. Yeah, I think she was. And she was talking about how it all happened and stuff like that. And I was like, I love when things are just. Just sweet and positive like that. Like, the. The drink spilled. Probably an accident. I'm sure no one, like, threw it. But the way Cynthia and Ariana just, like, ran to the girls, you know? Yeah. Cynthia was like, we need. We need napkins. We need. And I'm like, the more I find out about positive things like that, the happier it makes me feel, you know what I mean? Like, the New York marathon just happened here this weekend. Did you run it? No.

[Nicole Rafi]

You think I ran?

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. You were about to be like, yes, I ran it.

[Nicole Rafi]

No, I was supposed to be filming with my friend Jade Lake, and he was like, girl, I can't cross the street.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, I was in Manhattan or, no.

[Nicole Rafi]

No, we live in Brooklyn. But like, he was like, oh, you're okay. Yeah, yeah. And he was like, I don't. I can't cross the street to get to your apartment. And.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, it was that bad?

[Nicole Rafi]

It's that bad. So we had to wait, like, hours for it to pass before we could start filming and stuff.

[Trisha Paytas]

But yesterday. It was yesterday.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah, it was yesterday. Yesterday I wanted to watch it. Stuff like that makes me cry. Like. Like watching people. Like, I don't cry very. It's hard for me to cry because I'm on a lot of Prozac. But the few things that make me cry are, like, musicals, like, parades, marathons, like, oh, interesting.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, right, yeah.

[Nicole Rafi]

That There's a name for it or something like that.

[Trisha Paytas]

The crying because of happiness or what?

[Nicole Rafi]

Crying because of, like, group community.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like.

[Nicole Rafi]

Like, all coming together kind of situation.

[Trisha Paytas]

I wonder what that is. I feel like I might have that too, where you're just. Just like, I cried yesterday after my put in. I'm just. Because everyone was, like, applauding, and I'm like, oh, my God. This is, like. It feels like you're just a part of something, and everyone's just, like, wishing. It's kind of. We're saying earlier, everyone's, like, rooting for everyone. And that's what the marathon was yesterday. We got back to our hotel and, like, literally, like, there was, like, a lady that probably was, like, in her 70s. I had, like, a medal, and we, like, finished, and I was, like, so happy for her. I was like, that's amazing. And, like, little. Like, there's, like, younger people. I don't know. The whole thing was, like, really exciting. I saw Cynthia Rivo, speaking of, ran the marathon in 2016. Wow. And then went and did the Color Purple for two shows on Sunday.

[Nicole Rafi]

Wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

Isn't that great? Like, she is. She's my everything.

[Nicole Rafi]

The guy who plays Fierro right now, he is. He did the marathon yesterday and then did two shows.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, both.

[Nicole Rafi]

Like. Like both the matinee and.

[Trisha Paytas]

And the.

[Nicole Rafi]

And I'm like, what time did he have to finish to get to the matinee. What time does that. What time did the race start?

[Trisha Paytas]

He had to run fast, right?

[Nicole Rafi]

Like, what are you talking about?

[Trisha Paytas]

That is. Well, I guess it kind of ends around, like, the Broadway area. Maybe he just ran by everyone at Beetlejuice from. I put in, was dressed in marathon outfits, and I was like, did everyone just run the marathon? Like, this is our theme for the day. I was like, I love that. That couldn't be in the theme because I was in my costume, but I was like, oh, that's so cool. I get the sense of community, I think, in New York in general. That's why I like New York. Everyone's just very, very sweet. Even the, like. Like, fan interactions on the street, people are very. Just sweet. They're like, hey, Church, kind of like your job. They're like, hey, Trish, love you. Like, everyone's just very sweet. And, like, if I'm with my kids, like, they're very, like, respectful and nice, which is.

[Nicole Rafi]

That's awesome.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it's really great. Even, like, at Bluey, like, love you, Trish. I'm like, okay, Bluey. The Blue Museum. Have you been? No. There's a Bluey Museum? Oh, it's everything. It's really good. It's like a secret door. They.

[Moses]

They built the whole set, like, their house, the rooms, slides and things. Oh, they didn't want to leave.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, they love.

[Moses]

They're just running through the house, sliding on the slides, sleeping on their bed.

[Nicole Rafi]

Stranger things, like, experience.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do they have one? Do they have, like, an immersive.

[Nicole Rafi]

That's what they're doing. Yeah, like, part of the premiere. So that's about to be me. I'm going to be playing, like, in the Upside down.

[Trisha Paytas]

And that's. So, wait, so before you go into the premiere, it is. It's like activations, or it's the day before.

[Nicole Rafi]

I think it's like a. I think it's, like, houses that you go through type of vibe situation. So.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. That's gonna be everything.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah. I can't wait to, like, play in the Upside down. And, like, I don't. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're gonna love it.

[Nicole Rafi]

Like playing Winona Ryder's Kitchen.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. I wonder. She'll be there. You think all the stars are gonna be there at the premiere?

[Nicole Rafi]

I'm sure David Harbour's definitely gonna be there. Of course. Right?

[Trisha Paytas]

No.

[Nicole Rafi]

You think?

[Trisha Paytas]

Are you being sarcastic?

[Nicole Rafi]

I'm being sarcastic. I don't know if he's gonna be.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, can you, like, not invite him?

[Nicole Rafi]

I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because he cheated, I guess. I don't know.

[Nicole Rafi]

I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess if the Millie Bob Brown thing was true. But you don't know because it's Daily Mail. Daily Mail. Sometimes you're right, sometimes you're not.

[Nicole Rafi]

I have a no idea. Yeah, I. I don't know. Like, Jamie Campbell Bauer. Like, him being there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is he in this new one, too? Because he was back now, right?

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, he comes back. Do we know he comes back? Oh, I thought we said a different monster from my understanding.

[Nicole Rafi]

No, it's the same one.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's been all seasons.

[Nicole Rafi]

No, just since four. He's like, always. He's always been there, there. He's been there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Nicole Rafi]

But I like laughing from behind the curtain.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it, too. It's also getting very wicked, just, like, the being behind the curtain. I love it so much. Okay. I'm so confused when it comes to that stuff. So there's. Okay, so he's back because people liked him.

[Nicole Rafi]

He was hot.

[Trisha Paytas]

He was like the hot.

[Nicole Rafi]

Well, I downloaded do you know Quinn, the app?

[Trisha Paytas]

No.

[Nicole Rafi]

Okay, so there's this app called Quinn where they do, like, audio erotica and stuff. Do you know Chris Bryony from, like, the Summer I Turn Pretty?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Yes. From Mean Girls, the musical. Yes.

[Nicole Rafi]

So he did. He did, like, a Quinn audio. And so it's, like, supposed to be, like, spoken, like, smutty, written, like. It's like he's reading, like, a smutty book.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Nicole Rafi]

But it's kind of like Blue's Clues vibes where he's, like, talking to you and he's like, how are you? Oh, yeah. Like, you're sexy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Are you supposed to be answering or you're imagining what you're supposed to do?

[Nicole Rafi]

I guess some people. Yeah.

[Moses]

Pretend to be your boyfriend.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I love.

[Nicole Rafi]

Pretty much.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love those.

[Nicole Rafi]

So I downloaded it so that I could show all my friends on, like, my headphones, like, so that all of us could experience it and we were, like, having fun with it. But Jimmy Campbell Bower has one. But I can't take it. I can't. I can't.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, why?

[Nicole Rafi]

Because that's vecna.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, that's. But you don't think there's, like, sexiness to it? I feel like there's sexiness and, like, monsters. If you're in, like, a.

[Nicole Rafi]

He knows he's sexy. That's the problem.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Yeah. That's why I think of most sexy people.

[Nicole Rafi]

You're like.

[Trisha Paytas]

You don't want to, like, You. Because you know it.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he knows. He knows very much so.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's interesting. I think he is attractive, of course. And being a theater girl, I love him in Sweeney Todd. But, like, I don't know if I would be like, to me, a Jason Momoa is like, that's an obvious sexy. A Jamie. I don't know. I'd be like, maybe for theater girls, like, Ethan Slater.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

To me, they're kind of in the same category. It's like, okay, theater girls get it, but maybe not.

[Nicole Rafi]

What's his name? The guy that plays Art in Challengers.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, Mike Heist.

[Nicole Rafi]

Mike. Yes. He's. He's like one of those, like, the. The theater girlies.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah, yeah. He's. He's. That's why he doesn't say sure. Because of the theater girlies. He's like, actually, y' all scare me a little too much because we obsess. I love him so much.

[Nicole Rafi]

Do you like the theater people that you're.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Nicole Rafi]

Are they, like, the best?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Nicole Rafi]

Or.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Nicole Rafi]

Do they give theater kid vibes?

[Trisha Paytas]

The. At my Beetlejuice?

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah. Yeah. It's not a bad thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's not. Honestly. Yes. And it's very. But that's why it's like, I. I was intimidated before I, like, got in with them, but when I was a kid, I always wanted to be a theater kid, but I wasn't. I wasn't good enough for. To be in a show. Not even a community theater. Our community theater had, like, 60 people audition, and I like. Or 60 people in the town, and I could never get a role anyways. That's a whole different thing. My uncle was the director.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah, your uncle wasn't.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And he was my. Like, my mom says, like, there was no nepotism because definitely never got casted. So for me, I was always intimidated by theater kids because, like, I just wasn't good enough and, like, whatever. But this is. It's a very different world in 2025, which I love, because obviously, now, going into Beetlejuice, they could have been like. Like, you know, the theater kids. Like, we're on Broadway. What? But they're the opposite. They literally are just like, we're so happy you're here. And so. And everybody. Like, everyone's been so great. So it's been. Sorry. There was literally this eyelashes. Oh, my God. Yeah. I think it was, like, in my eyes. I was like, just like. I think it's. I think it's out. Okay. I forgot I had bottom lashes. Sorry.

[Nicole Rafi]

You lost an eyelash. I lost a nail at some point during this.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, you did?

[Nicole Rafi]

I think when I was showing you my shirt, I lost you.

[Trisha Paytas]

You played it off so cool. Me, I'm like the opposite. I was just like, like, sorry. People were just like, what the hell is happening?

[Moses]

But also they think we can the AC cool down. The space of it.

[Nicole Rafi]

I'm just always in a state of sweating. That's nothing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Are you okay?

[Nicole Rafi]

I'm fine.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm usually. Yes.

[Nicole Rafi]

I'm also just. I'm also just always sweat. Like, that's just.

[Trisha Paytas]

We are dressed like. People are gonna be like, what's the weather in New York? I'm dressed like, it's summertime, actually. Yeah, you're just like, it's freezing. You're just like, just normal. Me and Moses have been wearing T shirts this whole time in New York and everyone's like, aren't you guys freezing? We're like, we're sweating everywhere we go. Because New York is just like, he everywhere. Well, yes, I'm absolutely like, in the cars. I had a cashmere little skims thing the other day. We all love a legendary comeback. And Degree Original Cool Rush is back and better than ever. Cool Rush isn't just a scent. It's a movement, a fan favorite that delivers bold, fresh vibes and all day sweat protection. Whether you have a man that spends hours in the gym, heads into the office early, or is just trying to stay fresh on a long day, Cool.

[Nicole Rafi]

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[Trisha Paytas]

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[Moses]

No. Before I came here, I told you, like, in New York, I'm in T shirt all the time because it doesn't matter how cold it is outside, you spend the least amount of time there. But once you go in, it's hot. That.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yes, it is.

[Moses]

And then I'm just like, oh, my God, how am I getting out of this?

[Nicole Rafi]

Taking the subway or anything? Like, you're sweating so bad.

[Moses]

And it's weird because I was walking the streets yesterday just with a T shirt and like his whole day is like, where's your jacket?

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, oh, yeah. People love to say.

[Moses]

I'm like, what?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, you know, early on, I told Moses. Did I tell you or something? I told somebody. I must have told you that. I hate when people ask me, are you? Yeah, you're gonna be cold.

[Moses]

Yeah, it's like people do ask all the time.

[Nicole Rafi]

It's out of love.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like. I know. No, it is. It is out of love. But I always tell people I'm. I'm just fat. I just sweat. Like. And so, like, it's always, like, super awkward. I don't know. I think it's a trigger because I'm always sweaty. But then I realized, like, okay, you said you're always hot. You say you're always hot, so it makes me feel, like, better. I also just thought it was just because I'm, like, you know, no, curvy.

[Nicole Rafi]

I'm a sweaty girl.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it. I love the change with the T shirt.

[Nicole Rafi]

Oh, thank you.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love the. I love the reindeer, but I love this. Do you watch Kardashians?

[Nicole Rafi]

Yes, I do.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that you just. Anything I say, you're like, love it. Know it. Okay.

[Nicole Rafi]

Because I.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, great.

[Nicole Rafi]

I need to turn my brain off sometimes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Nicole Rafi]

Sometimes I need to watch informational stuff. I need to watch video essays. I need to watch documentaries. Sometimes I need to watch the Kardashians and them complain about whatever they're doing in their life. And it makes me feel better, and it makes me feel better, and it makes me feel safe, and it makes me calm before bed, and it doesn't make me scared.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know what? That's a good way to look at it. Because I. We would watch. I'm like, why do I like this? Yeah. You were saying earlier how, like, some people don't like social media because it makes them feel bad. Right. Nara Smith, she did the selfie with her baby, and everyone was like, why? Because of her body. You know, she looked great, obviously. And everyone's like, she's 23. She snaps back. That's how it is.

[Nicole Rafi]

Right?

[Trisha Paytas]

And it's like, yeah. I think if you have any insecurity, which I did for a very long time, it's like, yeah. Then it's kind of bad. Same thing with Kardashian. Sometimes I watch it and it, like, makes you just feel poor and you're just like, damn. I'm like, have no money or whatever. But then I was, like, trying to figure out, like, why do I like it? I think you're right. It's kind of just. You can turn your brain off. Yeah. And just, like, relax. And it's not drama. It's not demonic. It's not. You know what I mean? It's just like.

[Moses]

Like, maybe at times.

[Nicole Rafi]

Sure.

[Moses]

Depends how much balance I gotta have. But. Yeah, but you. I think you watch it almost like It's a combination of a beautiful long commercial of all the things she wants and manifestation.

[Trisha Paytas]

That makes sense. Yeah, that makes sense pretty much.

[Moses]

You look at it like, oh, this car, that jet, this clothing, those glasses.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, we are not over here.

[Moses]

Right. But I'm saying, like, you look at it, you know, like, they customize everything, and it's just like. So I think it's more that. Yes, it's long commercial.

[Trisha Paytas]

Kim has been aligned with our thoughts here on the. On the podcast. We've talked about this a few times. Let's know your thoughts on the moon landing. We do think it's real. You think it's fake.

[Nicole Rafi]

I. So I do believe the moon landing is real.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. I do kind of. Nowadays. That's crazy. I feel like we've all. Okay, I explain.

[Nicole Rafi]

I do feel like a moon landing truther. I do believe the moon landing is real. Do I think it's entertaining to talk about it being fake?

[Moses]

Sure.

[Nicole Rafi]

Like. Like, I will laugh and giggle along, like. But I. I do think that all my. My boyfriend and all of his friends were, like, engineers and, like, scientists and everything would. Would kill me if I was like. That didn't happen.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really? Oh, so interesting.

[Nicole Rafi]

But I mean, why you. You're. You're also on the same. Well, you said Kim. Kim aligns with you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, I do. Well, we kind of talked about it for a minute and I kind of. We, like, talked about a little bit, but then I had felt a little silly because we had. Was it Ted? We were talking Ted Nifisin.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Which is one of Oscar's favorite streamers. Is he a streamer?

[Nicole Rafi]

He's. Oh, you know, I met him at Crazy Repellent. Very nice guy.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's wonderful.

[Nicole Rafi]

So I made him hummus.

[Trisha Paytas]

You what?

[Nicole Rafi]

I made him hummus. Oh, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Homemade chickpea blended.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah, that was like a game. Like, we, like, had to make hummus from no recipe and then just serve.

[Trisha Paytas]

It from no recipe. How did you do it?

[Nicole Rafi]

Chickpeas, tahini, olive oil.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Nicole Rafi]

Garlic.

[Trisha Paytas]

You just knew that off the top of your head.

[Nicole Rafi]

Well, they gave us the ingredients, but, like, like. And then we had to serve it to Hasan, Ted, Nificent, Jarvis Johnson, and it was all women who were making it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, well, that seems on National Women's Day. Odd. Why would they do that? Why did they not switch it and have the guys do it for you?

[Nicole Rafi]

I know.

[Moses]

I'm thinking because they wanted to spare you from the awful.

[Nicole Rafi]

From their awful hummus.

[Trisha Paytas]

You make great hummus, though. You make it better than Me. So it would have been switched. Oh my. How was yours? Yours was good.

[Nicole Rafi]

Oh, it was all right. It was okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

What did they say? Not that it matters what men say.

[Nicole Rafi]

Hassan was on it really bad. I think 10. Ted was nice. Jarvis Jarvis was nicer about it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my God. But that's crazy. Something that's a game to be like this sucks. Like, oh my God, chill. It.

[Nicole Rafi]

It was all like for, for the love of the, of the live stream.

[Trisha Paytas]

But.

[Nicole Rafi]

But Ted.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, Ted was on and I think he's very like, he's very smart or he comes across smart. Maybe he's not. He's one of those people. Maybe he is. But he comes across very intelligent and which I get a little self conscious because like, like academically I'm not, you know, I'm not super. Especially science, math, definitely not. So I remember like questioning it. But then I'm like, let me just let. Not go too far in case he knows more than I do. But seeing Kim Kardashian on this week's. Did you watch this week's episode? Yeah. Where she was talking to Sarah Paulson about it. I was like, but it kind of makes sense, right? Because it's like, why what? You know, the, the wave, the.

[Nicole Rafi]

There's an explanation for it.

[Trisha Paytas]

What's the explanation?

[Nicole Rafi]

I think it has something to do with. From the, from the wind blowing off of. From the, from the aircraft. I think that's what it was.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, you think the aircraft just didn't stop completely. It's just like hovering and it's just like.

[Nicole Rafi]

Trisha, don't put me on the spot.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I don't know.

[Nicole Rafi]

I don't remember.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm trying to talk it out and see because I'm like, no, I'm so that could. That makes sense.

[Moses]

There's a perfect mix of, you know, data and missing data that it puts in. In a perfect place where both can be true.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Like you can argue both to be true.

[Nicole Rafi]

Absolutely.

[Moses]

But the fact that there's enough to argue that it didn't happen is just like you said, it's enough for entertainment. Purp.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, it is.

[Moses]

But you know, I mean there's, there's people even like Elon Musk that makes rockets and he's like more on the side of it's probably didn't happen that way or the way they said that it happened.

[Nicole Rafi]

Interesting.

[Moses]

Well, there's. There's one guy that. That's his whole life mission is to talk about it and he's. He. He basically investigated all of it. He thinks they went out to space and came back.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Moses]

But they never landed. They never landed. So it's somewhere in the middle, which is perfect, you know, to confuse us.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who is that guy that made his life mission to talk about this?

[Moses]

Oh, he's. Well, I'll find the name, but that's crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

His whole thing is literally just like I'm.

[Moses]

His whole thing. He's like the Chronically Girl. But everything. He has every video. He has every video of the moon landing. And he looks at. He shows you how in the window, they had a cutout to make it fake and look like the Earth was far away. There's so many things about it. But again, there was. There were a few missions.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

So it's possible that one of them was not. Because they really wanted to get there fast before the Russians, but then for the Russians. Yeah. Because that was the space race. That was the whole thing about who's gonna get to the moon.

[Trisha Paytas]

Chefs over here.

[Moses]

Exactly.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Nicole Rafi]

Kim said that Chloe should have someone on. She should talk about it on her podcast. You should go on.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would love me and Beneficent.

[Nicole Rafi]

No, that would be the most iconic thing that ever happened. You attended on Khloe Kardashian's couch talking about love. Have you ever ran into any of them?

[Trisha Paytas]

No. And we look very close. We live literally 10 minutes to, like, where they live, live.

[Nicole Rafi]

Knock on her door, be like, I'm ready to talk about it now.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would love. I saw Remy Jo Bader from Tick Tock on there, and I was like, again, another thing where I'm like, I'm glad influencers are getting. I would love. I do love Chloe. She might be my fave. I went to the skim store the other day, the flagship store here on Fifth Avenue, and I'm just like, this is everything. Yes. I love it.

[Moses]

And send Jimmy the picture of what put in a few in the store.

[Trisha Paytas]

This was like.

[Moses]

So she has the most amazing picture in this game store. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's me with, like, their bag. And it looks like. It looks like my body is on the bag.

[Moses]

Like, you could have.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's a whole thing.

[Moses]

They wrote something like that. Oh, you. You will put a picture up. You will see it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm gonna post this. I love it.

[Moses]

And also, this is the time to plug in our Patreon.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I feel like we should have done that at the beginning.

[Moses]

It doesn't matter. I mean, if you're still here, you're more likely to go to our Patreon.

[Trisha Paytas]

Patreon. Dot com.

[Moses]

Because in the. In the last Patreon, we are doing the J Grapple and the pink cardigan guy. This is related to Kim.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Moses]

We're doing the dance and the costumes there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, because they did it.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, we did talk about that.

[Moses]

We talked about it way before everyone knew about.

[Trisha Paytas]

We were ahead of it.

[Moses]

I don't know how I ended up with our Patreon cut, but that's fine.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, Patreon. Yeah. We don't know how it went, but patreon.com just.

[Nicole Rafi]

Trish, north can be our connection here. Like, north getting you. Like, she'll. She's gonna be like, mommy, Trish has to go on Chloe.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would love. I. That's how I meet a lot of people is usually through, like, their daughters. Yeah. Be like, the daughters being like. Like, this girl. Even when I met Gerard Way, he's like, oh, my daughter had mentioned that you, like, dressed as me. I was like, shout out to his daughter, you know? Yeah. I think that is the cool part about getting older. Right. Is just like. Yeah, they're the. It's cool.

[Moses]

Probably gonna be more like, Malibu will ask you one day. I really want to hang out with North.

[Trisha Paytas]

Probably north will be the end. I love Northwest. Is it? That's the other thing I always wonder. I'm like, I do. Like, I do love Northwest. I love her vibe. But it's like, is it weird to.

[Nicole Rafi]

Be a fan of a. Yeah, yeah, I understand.

[Moses]

Or are you just appreciating.

[Trisha Paytas]

When I see content. When I see content of her, but then I'm like, oh, but it's, like, bad to, like, I'm happy that she's.

[Nicole Rafi]

Like, protected through her mom. Like, I like that her. Her tik tok is regulated, like, through her. I'm happy that she doesn't have access to all of that. And obviously, like, her talking more and more about Kanye and the entire situation of, like, her kids are starting to realize what is happening between him and Kim online. Like. Like, that makes me happy that they have those, like, barriers in place that they can't figure it out as easily.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's true. Because I always wonder. I always think, like, with Malibu, when people see her, like, hi, malibu. Obviously, she's three. Northwest is, like, you know, 13 or something. But I always wonder if she's like, is that weird to have just people be like, hi. And you're like, oh, I don't know. You artists don't, like, really care anything else.

[Moses]

That's the reality they live in, and that's why people talk about Nepo babies. They live a different reality from a young age, so they have a different perception of what life is like and what the world is like. Like, as far as Malibu knows, everyone in the world is friends. They all know each other, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

They all talk to each other and take pictures together, and everybody's nice, and that's the world she lives in. And. Yeah, that's fine.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't think there's anything wrong. I just think it's so interesting because I do live for a Northwest content, but I'm like, should I be living for this when I'm. I feel like Northwest in. When she was like, in Lion King. I feel like that. And Beetlejuice, I feel like this is.

[Moses]

Like, my moment, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

And by the way, I supported Northwest all the way through Lion King. I was like, good for her, you know? And that's. That's how I feel in this moment. I feel very. In a good way. In a great way.

[Moses]

Yeah. And I feel like Kim.

[Trisha Paytas]

Great, sweetie. Yeah.

[Nicole Rafi]

That's how I feel. Going to the Stranger Things premiere. I feel like. I don't know. What's another example of someone getting to.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, live all your dreams?

[Nicole Rafi]

I feel like a make a wish kid. This is this month, this week. Like. Like, I'm getting all the. All the things given to me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Well, really enjoy it. I'm really glad that you're here for this, like, that week, because it's such good vibes from you, and I feel, like, your excitement for it. So I feel like it's good synergy aligning. You get to go to your Stranger Things premiere. I get my Beetlejuice debut tomorrow. I feel like it's, like, good alignment. I'm happy. Yeah.

[Moses]

And you're gonna meet there all the people that are you, all the people that like this one project as much as you do.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what's fun.

[Moses]

And network with them. And that. That's really the most interesting and best part is not even the premiere is those people.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was gonna say we're cry over the community again. We're like, wow, that is. That's actually so true. When we did the Wicked premiere, it's very. That where you're just like, oh, everyone here feels the way Cynthia and Ariana feels during the press tour. Like, we're all crying and no one, like, gets it unless you're. You get it.

[Moses]

And watching the movie with that audience where they were laughing and crying and singing, and that never happens again because people are not.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm I'm trying to picture the Stranger Things premiere, though, because it's like, are you. Do you all cry? Do you get emotional over that?

[Nicole Rafi]

I guess if I'm. Unless they're gonna kill someone off. Very first episode, I. I have no idea.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, it.

[Nicole Rafi]

It hasn't hit me yet that I'll be able to see it for the first time in like three years.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like.

[Nicole Rafi]

Like that. That's really.

[Trisha Paytas]

Three years.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah, that's how long it's been.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's right when Ma was born. Wow.

[Moses]

It's kind of like bridgeton for us.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Yeah. Bridgerton takes forever too. Oh, my God. That's gonna. Yeah, that'll be so surreal then to like, see it.

[Nicole Rafi]

How do you feel about Bridgerton? I don't watch Bridgerton, but I do know about people, like, making fun of them for like having their. All.

[Trisha Paytas]

All.

[Nicole Rafi]

All have acrylics and like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, I. You know what? I'm such a nerd in this sense too, where I feel like it was. It's a. It's a choice. Obviously there's no Pitbull back there, but they play like the Pitbull music as it. I think they do. Yeah. They'll have like. You know, that's the whole thing with British. It's a classical version of like the Pitbull song. It's in.

[Nicole Rafi]

Are you serious?

[Moses]

How do you not watch this with your friends?

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Yes.

[Nicole Rafi]

British is all like.

[Moses]

It's.

[Nicole Rafi]

It's all like. They're all like. Aren't they all, like, having sex in their castles?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I mean, kind of with some of my friends.

[Nicole Rafi]

I'm so down to be watching, like, them having sex in their castles. But like, with some of the other people, like, who are there. I'm like, I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know what you mean. No, I. I know what you mean. Like, it's not as crazy, but to me, I was very.

[Moses]

We watched it in different eyes. Like, I don't remember it as that.

[Trisha Paytas]

I remember it really. I remember being so that. But I don't know. You're right. Yeah, maybe not. I don't know. But if you're watching Stranger Things, then. Yeah, but I get really into the experiences. Netflix does a good job with like, the immersive because they do Bridgerton too, when it comes around. They do like Bridgerton balls.

[Nicole Rafi]

But that's so cool.

[Trisha Paytas]

I wonder what's more popular. Stranger Things are Bridgerton like, in ratings wise, probably.

[Moses]

Stranger Things, really? Because the. The market is wider. The amount of people that watch it from different places, different Ages different.

[Trisha Paytas]

I've never met a Stranger Things fan in real life until you, like, people love it, but I never met anyone that's like, I love Stranger Things.

[Nicole Rafi]

I'm so behind. I didn't become a fan until like a few years ago. I feel like you, whenever you become a fan of something, like years and years and years later, and then you make it like your personality and then you like, post a bunch of like, that's I. That I relate to heavily.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Nicole Rafi]

I didn't become a fan until 2022. Like, like. But when I love something, oh, I'm in it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Nicole Rafi]

Like obsessed. Were you a Gerard Way fan when you were in high school? Absolutely not Exactly.

[Trisha Paytas]

Mine was 2021 and everyone's like, what?

[Nicole Rafi]

Yup.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was old enough to be a fan of Black Parade in 2006, but. Exactly.

[Nicole Rafi]

It just. It just didn't happen.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Nicole Rafi]

And that's fine.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And that's fine.

[Nicole Rafi]

Like, I'm. I'm late blooming. I don't care.

[Trisha Paytas]

I agree. I think. And I do love shout out to the fandoms for allowing people to come in because a lot of times people don't like that when it's like, like, I was a lot like that with Elvis. When the movie Elvis came out with Austin Butler. Talk about problematic games. It is the worst. You were saying, like, I don't want Elvis. Elvis for now.

[Nicole Rafi]

It was like, what did Austin do?

[Trisha Paytas]

I know, but when you're saying Joe, you're like, please don't be. Yeah, y. Yeah, that is. I think when the Elvis stuff came, when Priscilla came out the movie with Jacob Elordi, I was like, ah, you know what I mean? Because I've been an Elvis fan. That's been my whole personality for so long. My daughter is clearly Elvis.

[Nicole Rafi]

Sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then all that stuff comes out Elvis. And you're like, yeah, damn, that sucks. You know, he's been dead for like 50 years and people are still canceling him.

[Nicole Rafi]

I was like, I'm like, that way with Prince. I was he a problematic.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know much about.

[Nicole Rafi]

So he was like, strangely homophobic.

[Trisha Paytas]

Interesting.

[Nicole Rafi]

Prince was homophobic. Like, he.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's. That's disappointing.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah. He became like a very, very religious later on in his life, but not in a positive way. And so then he started, like, basically saying that he doesn't stand by anything that he once stood by. And I mean, he was like. So he was like the first. Like. Oh, not first. Probably not. But like, I mean, he was very much so. Like, I'm Not a woman. I'm not a man. I'm something that you'll never understand. Like, he was like, he was our non binary king. Yeah, he was our non binary king.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean?

[Nicole Rafi]

Like, he.

[Trisha Paytas]

And.

[Nicole Rafi]

And so I was really, really into him when he died.

[Trisha Paytas]

Interesting.

[Nicole Rafi]

That was my whole world. Like, I became an even bigger fan after he died.

[Trisha Paytas]

And like. Yeah, it happens a lot with people. That's so interesting.

[Nicole Rafi]

And so whenever you found that out. Yeah. I'm just like, this sucks because he's like, such a big part of my. My teenage years.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Yeah. And then you find out all that stuff. Homophobia is a big one. Although the Elvis stuff too, is bad too. I was gonna say. I don't know. I could forgive homophobia about Elvis stuff too. I mean, once they're dead, maybe they get a pass.

[Nicole Rafi]

Oh, no.

[Moses]

They get to pass away.

[Trisha Paytas]

Huh?

[Moses]

They get to pass away.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Random. I don't know what the ruling is on that. When someone's dead, I guess they're just not real.

[Moses]

I mean, the actions were bad. We need to learn from them, and that's the main thing. And do we just, like.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think you can just let it go probably when someone dies. Huh?

[Moses]

But there's nothing to let go of. It's. If there was something that was a crime or that's bad, that's it. It stays as it is. That's the thing. But if you want to enjoy a song, you can still enjoy a song.

[Trisha Paytas]

Some people say detaching art from artist.

[Nicole Rafi]

I used to be very much so that, like, you cannot separate an art from an artist. But to be completely honest, there's such few things that I like. People have such few joys left in life.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's true.

[Nicole Rafi]

You know what I mean? And so even, like, for example, Harry Potter, like, I was re. I went to Universal in Orlando, and so there were so many, like, adults who were, like, loving, you know, Harry Potter World and everything. I never got into Harry Potter.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Nicole Rafi]

But I'm like, it's not these people, the fans fault that that author decided to openly be, like, a very transphobic person. Like, it's not their fault. That's something that brought them so much joy as children and young adults and something that was like a comfort and like a safety blanket for them that now it's, like, ripped away from them because the creator of it is so, so awful and so it's difficult. I can't blame the fans for still having a special place of that in their heart. You know what I mean, it's another thing if you're like, I love J.K. rowling for, like. And I stand by what she said.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Nicole Rafi]

It's another thing to be like, wow, like, Harry Potter World. Like, gives me, I don't know, like, the warm and fuzzies.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. That's a difficult. It's difficult when, like, someone actively is being awful versus, like, Prince in the 80s, Elvis in the 50s. Not to defend it, but I. It's. It's a little harder.

[Moses]

It's about the energy. It's like, who are you supporting by listening in songs? Let's say if. I don't know, if somebody thinks Michael Jackson is problematic, but you're listening to his songs, are you supporting his kids? Or maybe somebody bought his catalog and it's now going to completely different place, you know, so it's about. And if you really care about it that much, you do that research and find out what are you supporting when their energy is going to. But if it's going to J.K. rowling's right now. Is she doing what she's doing?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Then one. Blame me if you want to cut her off.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah.

[Moses]

So that's. That's what I mean.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, yeah.

[Moses]

If I listen to a Michael Jackson song today, it's probably going to some big network corporation.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Definitely not to him.

[Trisha Paytas]

Or kind of like Woody Allen.

[Moses]

I think we're all like, yeah, when he's around. And.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's like. And I loved Woody Allen films. I like, that was like, my whole personality. And then you're just like. You find that like. Yeah, that one. I think you can't. I think Jerry Seinfeld was like, I separate art from Mars. I don't know if you can on that. I don't know.

[Moses]

Yeah, well, he would say that because.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Yeah, he wants it for himself because.

[Nicole Rafi]

They want him to separate everything that he's done.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, you're right. Didn't put that together, but you're right. Yeah. Well, like you said, I guess use your best judgment. Woody Allen should have been you, not Diane Keaton, but. All right, we have our final. Can I say that? I don't know if I can say that. All right, well, Eugenia Cooney, she's been. She's been found.

[Nicole Rafi]

Oh, yeah. She was at Disney, correct?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, she was at Disney. She was. Someone took a picture of her and her brother and her mom. They were all. Because she was, like, missing for a while. We were talking about her. I always talk about this with, like, sensitivity because, again, I feel like I Try to keep it positive. But yeah, people saw the. The photo of Eugenia. She was looking not so happy at the happiest place on earth. Her brother was next to her. One thing I hate is body shaming. But obviously everyone came. Oh yeah, body shaming. This week it was Cheryl Burke on Dancing with the Stars from Alex Earl's stepmom. Did you see that? Really? She told her to go take more Ozempic because she gave Alex Earl A9. You didn't see that? You watched instant stars? No.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Alex drills on. She got all tens. Cheryl Burke, who was a pro, gave her a nine. Alex Earl's stepmom, who used to be a mistress for someone here in New York, I think. Am I right on that? A New York politician. Oh, something like that. And that was like her claim to fame. Nothing wrong with it, by the way. No judgment. But she, she did a tick tock and was like, this is crazy. Ynine, go take more Ozempic. Then Cheryl Burke came back and was like, hey, you don't know my story. Like, you know, why are we commenting on people's bodies? The Internet was pretty much behind Sheryl Burke. Alex Shell commented on Shell Burke's like, I appreciated your criticism. But now with the Eugenia, her brother and her mom, people are criticizing her brother's weight now. Did you see this? But she saw the photo.

[Nicole Rafi]

People are way too comfortable talking about other people. Yeah. Like you said, other people's bodies online. I feel like where, where's the decorum? Where. Where is the normalcy of how to be a human being and how to be kind? Yeah, people are way too comfortable. I saw that. It ended up on tmz, which I didn't. I never imagined that. I just didn't think that Eugene it like Kungi was tmz.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I think she's pretty mainstream. I agree with you. Because while she is just like a streamer, she doesn't necessarily mainstream stuff. I think she's pretty mainstream.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's untured that everyone I know. Like, I don't love talking about her because I don't want to ever add to any. If there is an issue, like issue going on with her. So I try to always like talk about not body shaming because it doesn't help.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Big or small. On the end of a bigger person. I'm like, like, doesn't help when you call me fat. Like, we know we just want to eat more. So I, I think with her. People ask me about her so much in my real life, which is like, crazy, because I don't talk about her that much. I don't know if it's, like, just the body thing that people ask about, but people are always are like, where's Eugenia? Because people thought she wasn't, like, alive. That was, like, one of the rumors. So I guess it's like, good, she's alive. She's with her.

[Moses]

They were hoping that she's in rehab.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Nicole Rafi]

Well, it's part of a. She's part of a lawsuit, is she not?

[Moses]

There is a lawsuit, but she's not.

[Nicole Rafi]

Directly a part of it.

[Moses]

Yeah, she's not being sued, but there's stuff about her that's been summoned. Like, they just want to know if.

[Nicole Rafi]

It'S, like, the protection of children. Correct.

[Moses]

It's more. They want to know if Tick Tock and other, you know, companies worked with her and promoted her content while she is, you know, kind of like being viewed.

[Trisha Paytas]

So she was trying to, like, hide maybe from that.

[Moses]

But that's one thing. But. But I think when I saw the picture for me for the first time, because we always talk about her and we think about her and her as a fully independent person doing what she wants. This is what she wants to do. And this is the first time that I saw. I just saw, like, two little kids and their mom. And I saw something is going on here that is not healthy for those kids.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, they're not little kids.

[Moses]

I know, but what I saw, I was like, they just looked so helpless. But at the same time, so I don't know, because I've been around people with eating disorders that came from control issues that did not have control. So that was the only control they had over their life. And suddenly I saw, oh, these two kids. I. I can't stop referring to them as kids. These two people have grown up in an environment that caused something, and suddenly I didn't see her as an independent, fully independent person that's doing what she wants. It's the first time I saw her as her. More. Maybe she's a victim of something rather than the perpetrator, like the initiator of something.

[Nicole Rafi]

I mean, I've seen that, like, conversation a lot about her mom for a long time. Long, long time. Especially, like, what was it from, like, Shane's documentary that he did on her about, like, why are there so many locks? Why are there bells on the door? Like, why is her mother, like, the way that it's worried. Just worried about and her mom constantly being like, she's fine. I know what she's doing, like, just like, the comments that are made. And so I think it stems from concern of that. And I think. Yeah, I. I guess I just. Yeah, it is one of those situations where I never know what to. What to. I don't. I, like, I don't have advice or, like, an answer for it. You know what I mean? Like, I. I've just been hoping. People have been preying upon Eugenia Cooney's downfall. I feel like it came from a place of compassion, and now it is just slowly becoming into a place of really, really negativity and hoping, like, really, like, talking about her and waiting for the day that something really awful happens to her. And I'm like, I just can't imagine talking about another human being like that and, like, not hoping that she comes back from whatever it may be.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, as you said at the beginning of the episode, too, I think it's like the change in growth of it all, too. Right? People were like, she needs to get offline and get help. Then she's offline. And then this happens. You know, there's like a leaked photo and now there's speculation. And then now her brother's being brought into it. It's like his weight and his art and like, all the things that he does about her. Like, then it just becomes even more of this, like, circus that she can't escape from. She's trying to be offline. She's not trying to rage bait anymore or body check or whatever people were accusing her of doing. And it just. There's no winning because like you said, there's no winning until, like, yeah, something bad happens. And people be like, we wanted her to be better.

[Nicole Rafi]

We.

[Trisha Paytas]

We see it happen all the time. I love Anna Nicole, and it gives me that same vibe. Different, of course, but like, like, everyone praises her once. Her, oh, well, we should have done more while she was alive. It's like, well, everyone is just, like, rooting for her downfall in every aspect, criticizing her brother, criticizing even the mom. Like, I get where people are coming from because obviously it's like, not about her. It's not about her brother. And they're like, Zane them up even then. That's the person that's in their life right now, so close to them. It's like, it's not helping. No Anything. And it's. It does suck. And that's why I hate. That's. It's hard for me to talk about her too, because it's like, what is. Is the answer?

[Nicole Rafi]

Yes, exactly. And like, it's like, one of those situations. Like, for example, hey, if. If Gypsy Rose, you know, had a YouTube channel, like, when she. I mean, she was, like, kind of in the public, but she wasn't on social media. But, like, you know, she was. But people didn't know what was happening behind the scenes, you know, would there be a chance for. I think people now that they see similar stories or stories that they. They're at least perceiving are similar, they think that this is their way of helping or like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like.

[Nicole Rafi]

Like to intervene and. And they feel like they can in that moment. But I don't know if it's. If anything's beneficial. And, I mean, I know that the people close to her have tried to intervene into her life, and she hasn't been.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Nicole Rafi]

Willing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like Jacqueline Glenn, was it. Yes. Yeah. And, yeah, sometimes you just can't help people that can't, like, help themselves. And I think the Internet successfully took her off, bullied her off the Internet in a way. And now that she's off, she's still getting bullied. And I just don't know. To me, that would be so crazy to me if, like, the Internet got so bad that I was like, I'm getting away from it. Even if it's your whole life and then still having people, like. Like, it's just. I don't know how you deal with it.

[Nicole Rafi]

I don't either. I. And I can't imagine, like, if you do choose to go back online and then it's a photo of you on TMZ and then your entire family is getting pulled into it, like, where is your safe space then? Yeah, I. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not your family, not your mom, not online. It's really. Yeah. It makes me really sad. And she is. She is. She is, like, 30, right? She's, like, 30 years old. So it's like, you know, it's. Obviously, there's a struggle going on there, and it makes me. It makes me really, really sad. And then people just talking about her. But I guess the good news is the silver lining is she's okay. She's like, well, you know, people thought.

[Nicole Rafi]

She was all alive. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So that's good. Disney World's always a good place to go. So I was like, well, at least she's getting something. But she loves. Looks sad and like, okay, it could be just a photo, which could happen to us. Right. Yesterday at Bluey, I'm sitting there on my phone because I'm trying to figure out the Uber situation with the marathon. I could look like I'm, like, not Being with my family, I thought about that because someone came up to me. It's like a dad. And he was, like, literally FaceTiming somebody. And I'm, like, sitting there, my phone like this, and I didn't realize that he's, like, FaceTiming. And it's just, like, me hunched over while, like, my kids are playing the background. Like, I just, like, got up and left. Like, that's a weird thing because I'm like, someone could perceive that as me just, like, not paying. Yeah. Being aware. So I was like, it was a weird thing. So. So I can see how silk. Yeah, that was. That was weird. And usually no one's like that. This was like, again, like an older dad being weird. But I get the same feeling with the Eugenia photo. I was like, she honestly could have just been like, someone's taking a picture of me. I don't want to deal with this right now or something. And fully aware of it. But she had Disney World. I mean, I'm sure she's trying to live her life, and I always wish her the best. Always.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, I think the Internet is so hard on everyone, on a woman. Especially when you see someone struggling. Right. It's like, we already. We already know something's happening in the sense of, like, she's not online. She's going through lawsuits, whatever it is. And it's like, let's just all be kinder and just be appreciative, I guess, that she's out there. Yeah. And living life.

[Nicole Rafi]

I agree.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Well, this has been a great Hot Topics. Thank you so much for being here. Is there anything people should know? You're going to Stranger Things. You're going to Beetlejuice. What else? You said November is your busiest month.

[Nicole Rafi]

Month.

[Trisha Paytas]

What else is coming up for you?

[Nicole Rafi]

Just lots of videos coming out, a lot of Stranger Things content.

[Trisha Paytas]

The whole month.

[Nicole Rafi]

New season.

[Trisha Paytas]

That makes sense because it's.

[Nicole Rafi]

Because it's coming up.

[Trisha Paytas]

Are you getting paid for any of it?

[Nicole Rafi]

I mean, I'm sponsored, but not by just Stranger Things.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, you're not supposed to buy Netflix or Strange Things at all. No, but I don't.

[Nicole Rafi]

I'm open.

[Trisha Paytas]

Tell me about it. Yeah. Because. Okay. When you see people. I've seen them sponsor, like, Netflix and stuff. Sponsors, people. Are you ever, like, where's my sponsorships? You know, like, with Chili's, Me, with Domino's. You're kind of like, like, huh. Okay.

[Nicole Rafi]

It's definitely a thought that's there sometimes, but I'm like, the time will come. Like. Like, I just have to be persistent because, like, I mean, hello. Like. Like my persistency. My persistency. I don't think that's a word. But, like, like, my. My consistency.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Nicole Rafi]

It worked off. Yeah. It paid off that, you know, now I'm going to the premiere, like, baby steps.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And I think if you're genuinely a fan, like, genuinely a fan of something, might as well just keep.

[Nicole Rafi]

Absolutely.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'll keep eating dominoes.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah, exactly.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Nicole Rafi]

Well, first of all. Oh, who is it?

[Moses]

It.

[Nicole Rafi]

Who is it that you're recently.

[Moses]

Arby's.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Nicole Rafi]

Arvies.

[Trisha Paytas]

Love Arby's. All of these. Yeah. They're my everything. I can't wait. Like, no. Arby's has become my number one because of their loyalty back to me.

[Nicole Rafi]

You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

You know when someone shows you some love back. Yes. Like, it's like boyfriends or anything. It's like, oh, when someone likes me, too, I'm like, it's real. Yeah. Now we're like, arby's will always be number one when we go eat, when we post me anything, it's always gonna be Arby's above anything. And I'm sure that's like, you know, when you get that synergy, you're like, yeah. Same thing with Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice. About love. Every musical right now.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, no other shows exist on Broadway to me at the moment.

[Nicole Rafi]

Well, you've been showing so much support towards Beetlejuice forever. Are you able to watch any other show? Probably not while you're here?

[Trisha Paytas]

No. Yeah. Because it's on the exact same time. But that's okay because I get to watch Beetlejuice every night. And in my dressing room, there's, like, a tv. Yeah. So I'm watching it every night. Like, I'm fully immersed in this world where I'm like, I could play every single part if they asked me if they need a swing one day I'll be like, I know the role. I'm ready to jump on. So. Yeah. But I'm so. I'm so happy for you. I'm excited to meet your cousin. She's gonna come, too.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah, she's coming on Friday. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm so excited. Oh, my God. It's gonna be so fun. You're gonna have the best week. I'm gonna have the best week. You're gonna have the best week, Moses. You have a good weekend.

[Moses]

I'm already having it.

[Nicole Rafi]

Are you doing Stage Door?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think so.

[Nicole Rafi]

Come meet you at Stage Door?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Oh, you can come back. I can Figure. Yeah. They told me, like, oh, if you want to bring people backstage that, you know, like, come. So I have to figure it out. But, yeah, I think we're. I did that when I. When I saw the Beetlejuice original cast. I remember two of the cast members put me on the list, and I got to go on. So.

[Nicole Rafi]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So, yeah, hopefully I can figure it out.

[Nicole Rafi]

She would. If that were. She would cry.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Yeah, for sure.

[Nicole Rafi]

I would. I would win cousin of the year award.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my gosh. Absolutely. That's what I was saying. Like, Friday, I could have gotten you because I get, like, two, like, house seats each night, so I was like, oh, if you need a ticket, don't worry about it. Okay. I think you're the. I think you're the only person I know coming Friday, so.

[Nicole Rafi]

Oh, my God. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Great. I'm so excited. Thank you for being here. And thank you. You're just, like, wonderful. And you said you have a podcast in your bathtub, which I, like, didn't know about was the podcast where.

[Nicole Rafi]

Not doing the podcast as much anymore. Like, we're kind of focusing more on my friend Jake and I. We do, like, book reading videos. Okay. Yesterday we filmed for, like, six hours where we read, like, a Colleen Hoover book from pretty much from, like, start to finish. And so that's kind of like we started off with that. I love doing that. It's just not in the bathtub anymore. But, yeah, everything's on my channel. Just Nicole Rafi.

[Trisha Paytas]

Just chronic. It's Nicole Rafi Chronically Online Girl. Is your series or is that your channel name?

[Nicole Rafi]

Just a series? Nicole Rafi. Just my regular channel name.

[Trisha Paytas]

Check out Nicole Rafi everywhere. Love you so much. Thank you guys for being here. And we'll see you. We'll see you Thursday. There'll be a special Beetlejuice guest episode on Thursday. Hot Topics will continue next week. Jimmy will be here in New York, and we also have some New York guests coming next week as well. So we'll see you guys then. Thank you for being here. I love New York. Bye.