Oscar (2:06)

Target. I thought they were poppers, but then when I opened it, they're like, oh, just push the thing. And like, you basically push it. That's better.

Moses Hacmon (2:14)

That's way better. Shadow Target for the balloons, too.

Trisha Paytas (2:17)

Oh, wow.

Moses Hacmon (2:18)

Isn't that crazy? They have these balloons without only Party City and they don't require helium. Moses said it comes with just a straw.

Trisha Paytas (2:23)

And you love that.

Moses Hacmon (2:24)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (2:25)

Okay.

Oscar (2:25)

I'm a bit dizzy, but yeah.

Moses Hacmon (2:28)

Wait, really?

Oscar (2:29)

Oh, yeah. Doing all of this.

Moses Hacmon (2:30)

It was so easy. Like, it's just a try.

Trisha Paytas (2:31)

You just go. I was like, okay, that is a lot of air.

Moses Hacmon (2:33)

That's a lot of air.

Trisha Paytas (2:34)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (2:35)

Maybe you're a little lightheaded. Well, it's our 200th episode in basically two years. We didn't even really get to celebrate our two year, which was July 19th. Or is it July 20th?

Trisha Paytas (2:44)

19Th.

Moses Hacmon (2:45)

We filmed on the 19th.

Trisha Paytas (2:46)

Yeah, we saw the Bar.

Moses Hacmon (2:47)

I saw. We saw the Barbie movie that night. So I think it aired on the July 20th. So, yeah, July 19th was our. Our. Our two year. And we've done 200 episodes in two years, which is pretty good because we do take time off for Christmas, and we started out with only one an episode once a week. So we kind of. We've been. We've been hustling two years. A very long commitment to each other, I don't think. Yeah. You know, before Moses, I don't know if any relationship I had ever lasted more than a year ever, you know, which is crazy. Or even a friendship, for that matter. Like, friendships are usually a year for me.

Trisha Paytas (3:21)

No, you had some that lasted longer. Shane.

Moses Hacmon (3:23)

But that was like a sociopath. Me, not him. He called me a sociopath. Anyways, already starting off on the wrong foot. Try not to mention Shane challenge. But if you want to see our Patreon, we're gonna do Wendy's, which. Oh, we don't mention it.

Trisha Paytas (3:39)

Okay, so you might have seen someone do it, but we're not gonna mention it.

Moses Hacmon (3:43)

Everyone's done it. Oscar's like, damn, they already did it. And I was like, well, definitely everyone's done this one. Eat with Katie has done it. So it's like, yeah. If you guys want to go to our patreon. Patreon.com. just Trish. Today we're doing our Wendy's Wednesday Mukbang, which that was last week, but now everyone's doing it because it technically came out yesterday. And we're gonna react to the greatest moments of just Trish.

Trisha Paytas (4:00)

Over 200 episodes.

Moses Hacmon (4:01)

Over 200 episodes. Like, to do 200 episodes. And, like, how can you remember anything you said? Like, how.

Trisha Paytas (4:07)

I really don't. When I was saving our Just Trish moments, I forgot everything we said. I'm like, damn, we kind of are funny.

Moses Hacmon (4:15)

Shout out to the comments running us know when we're funny, because I was just telling Oscar, he said he saw him on TikTok. But I go to the comments here on YouTube and you guys always do little timestamps of what's funny, and they never say what it is. They're like, oh, my God, what Moses said at 104. Or the way Jimmy edited Oscar at 52 minutes. And I always go to it, and I'm always like, thank you for letting us know what's funny, because this is a long episode, and the fact that people are watching through is amazing and wonderful. And thank you for letting us know we're funny.

Oscar (4:39)

200 times, maybe. Average of three hours. That's like 600 hours of content.

Moses Hacmon (4:46)

Wait, how did you get that math? 300 hours?

Oscar (4:50)

No, more 200 episodes. Each episode, it's in the range between an hour and a half to three hours. Sometimes we pushed over three hours.

Moses Hacmon (4:58)

Right, right, right.

Oscar (4:58)

So it's an average of two hours. That's 400 hours of content plus Patreon.

Trisha Paytas (5:03)

And the three hours Patreon, we usually.

Moses Hacmon (5:06)

Do an hour and a half for the bonus, and we do an hour for the podcast. It's an extra two and a half hours a week. So what's that math?

Oscar (5:12)

Well, so then we're. We're at 800 hours of content.

Moses Hacmon (5:15)

800 hours. There you go. We really are giving it to you. When you said patreon's becoming competitive, I don't know if anyone's giving. What is. That would be quantity we're doing along is what I'm saying. I don't know. We're giving a lot. So go to patreon.com Jess. Trish. It's. It's. It's a key. We have fun over there. It's good. Headshot of the month is your. You have until August 10th to order our Headshot of the Month, which is our Aquaman headshot. If you want to commemorate baby Aquaman in a headshot, here is the picture. It's beautiful. And if you're our producer tier, you get a little sticker with the Chanel shield glasses. There's T shirts coming in the next month or two for our producers. So thank you guys for being amazing@patreon.com just. Trish.

Oscar (6:03)

Yeah, and one of the things people ask, too, once you subscribe, you have 2 years of videos to catch up on. Like, you can binge for the next year on that subscription.

Moses Hacmon (6:12)

That is so true. Actually, I think that's why I think I talked about this before. I think that's why I stopped Patreon years ago when I did it, because I loved it. I did it for, like, two years. I had all this catalog of video, but I was uploading it on Vimeo. And this is back when you could put, like. I wouldn't say like. Like you could put more mature content on Vimeo, but then they, like, took it away that you couldn't put mature content on there. So they deleted all my videos, and all my videos were gone off Vimeo. Hence they were gone off Patreon then. And so I was like, well, damn, I just gotta start over. It because that was, like, a cool thing. It's like, oh, you can get all the backlog that you haven't seen if you become a member. But anyways. Anyways, we pivoted to this, and it's better. But I love Patreon. Patreon's my thing. Was that video you sent me from Patreon or was it from their main.

Trisha Paytas (6:54)

I have no idea.

Moses Hacmon (6:55)

Oh, you just saw it.

Trisha Paytas (6:55)

I have no idea.

Moses Hacmon (6:56)

Oh, I love it. You didn't click.

Trisha Paytas (6:58)

I did not click. It was on someone's Instagram story. I'm like, okay, not there. I think it's. I don't know. Are we allowed to say that?

Moses Hacmon (7:04)

I don't know.

Trisha Paytas (7:05)

I don't know.

Moses Hacmon (7:08)

Delete it. Beep it. I mean, they probably. They were getting a lot of views just trying food. I loved it. I was like, we're gonna do that one day. That's gonna be our pivot. We're just gonna make slime. Which, honestly, I did a video. Okay, again, I'm not trying to bring this up, but, like, truly, my daughter Malibu loves slime. Every morning she asked me, do you love slime, Mommy? Does Abba love slime? Like, she always says, like, who loves slime? And I had a video, I think I was showing you, because I think I was saying, oh, my gosh, Shane used to make these slime videos, and they get so many views. I was in a slime video. I made slime with him, and I didn't. I don't remember that at all. But I showed Malibu, and she was so impressed. She was just like, oh, my God, Mommy made slime. Like, can we make slime together? So we might just turn into a slime?

Trisha Paytas (7:48)

Oh, we should have a slime.

Moses Hacmon (7:49)

Did you like it? Did you like a slime?

Trisha Paytas (7:52)

I don't think I ever watched them, but if Malibu loves them, I feel like she's a tastemaker.

Moses Hacmon (7:56)

So, yeah, she loves the glitter ones. You can make it with glue and glitter.

Trisha Paytas (8:00)

Tease. You should put her on Joey graceffa's channel.

Moses Hacmon (8:02)

I wonder who did it first, Shane or Joey, who copied who? Because that slime was big for him. It was getting, like, 3 million, 4 million views.

Trisha Paytas (8:09)

Yeah, I was doing a lot for Joey, too.

Moses Hacmon (8:11)

I'm doing it. We're doing it. Let's do it for a Patreon. She loves it. We gotta figure out how to do it then. She'll be so obsessed with doing it. So shout out to the slime channel. The ones she watches, too, are like little kids making slime. And she Just. She loves them. She loves that slime. So maybe that's what we'll get into. How are you? How are you feeling?

Trisha Paytas (8:28)

I'm feeling like I was trying to think of a 200 pun, but I really couldn't. 200.

Moses Hacmon (8:38)

Oh, you're feeling 200? That's good.

Oscar (8:40)

200 pounds lighter.

Moses Hacmon (8:42)

200 pounds? What?

Oscar (8:43)

Lighter?

Trisha Paytas (8:44)

Oh, 200.

Oscar (8:46)

That's positive. Did you lose 200 pounds positive with 200?

Moses Hacmon (8:51)

Oh, I see. Well, yes. I would love to be £200. That'd be. That's what we're celebrating. Like, we're £200.

Oscar (8:59)

Let's keep the numbers.

Moses Hacmon (9:00)

That'd be great. I am 237. I'm getting closer to 200 than 300. That's something to celebrate. Just around the corner, we did the grapefruit and eggs. Been doing them every night. Basically. I do them every night except for Thursdays for pasta night and Friday for chicken night. And then other nights, I'm grapefruit and eggs.

Trisha Paytas (9:17)

There you go.

Moses Hacmon (9:17)

But I did have Olive Garden for lunch, so I had the breadsticks.

Trisha Paytas (9:21)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (9:21)

Tortellini. Oh, those shrimp Fritos. The little fried shrimp at Olive Garden. I can't wait to eat today. Wednesdays are my favorite. Or Thursdays, if you're seeing this. Because we get to eat after. So it's like a celebration.

Trisha Paytas (9:32)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (9:33)

It feels like a reward. And we're doing it with Wendy's. Wendy's is our thing. I love it so much. I had something to tell you, and now I forgot.

Trisha Paytas (9:40)

I saw you got a rainbow tooth. Labubu. What the hell?

Moses Hacmon (9:43)

I know. Moses was shook, too.

Trisha Paytas (9:45)

He was like, what the hell is going on around here?

Moses Hacmon (9:47)

I know, I know. I did cheat. I went on sock ups and was like, how do they know that it's going to be rainbow? I'm like, well, they, like, open it, but they do give you the original box and packaging. They keep it all.

Oscar (9:57)

They first saw her with the box and the packaging, so I thought she just opened it. I thought you just opened it. And then the next thing I see, she has the gray one. I'm like, wait, did you just get one out of one? Like, so, like, it was a flex.

Moses Hacmon (10:08)

We should have brought that to celebrate. Yeah, that is a flex. I was, like, wearing to Olive Garden yesterday. I was like, oh, my God. But then I had to hide it because my daughter, Elvis, who's 14 months, tries to play with it. I was like, oh, no, no, no. That's Mommy's $200 Little Boo Boo. So I Had to hide it from her. Cause she, you know, with those buttery breadstick hands, was trying to go for it. I was like, no. I was, like, trying to hide it. So keep those toys away from your kids. That was bougie. I was like, no, I love it. It's, like, my prize possession. It is so cute. Okay, next break, we should go get it because it's literally so cute. It just makes me so happy. Yeah, it's worth it. That one's worth it. I actually had a Labu fail. I know everyone hates a little talk on here. They're like, don't talk about it, but where's that giant one I ordered on accident? We didn't get all the Boo Boos in here because I ordered a giant. Well, most. Like, you had giant. The Boo Boo. And I was like, I didn't order that. Like, there's no way. I thought it was. It was another. Really? Because it was expensive. So I thought it was, like a, you know. Yeah. Rare one. I wanted a pink one for my. I got this, like, little, like, Louis Vuitton bag, and I wanted the pink and the rainbow. But the pink one is, like, ginormous. It came, like, huge. It came, like, a big one, and it was, like, $300, too. So I thought, well, it's just an expensive labubu. But now I don't know what to do with it. It's cute. But everyone who comes in, I was like, oh, my God, that boo boo. So cute. I'm like, yeah, I didn't want it. They're like, oh, I'll take it. I was like, well, I want it, but also, I don't know what I'm gonna do with it. But I love boo boo. I know. My mom's like, ego on posh. I'm like, I just bought it off StockX for 300. So on accident. I thought it was a little big. It's not big, right?

Trisha Paytas (11:34)

No, it's the medium one. Paris Hilton has that one.

Moses Hacmon (11:37)

What is it? Where do you put something like this? Oh, I love that. That's taking over the woke queen of Tick tocks. Okay, tell me.

Oscar (11:44)

She got a keychain.

Moses Hacmon (11:47)

I know. Well, it was supposed to be, like, a little.

Trisha Paytas (11:49)

I do have the keychain version of that.

Moses Hacmon (11:51)

That's what I wanted. Was it bougie?

Trisha Paytas (11:53)

It was.

Moses Hacmon (11:55)

This was maybe, like, 200. I don't remember. I don't know where to go with this. It's kind of scary.

Trisha Paytas (12:01)

No, she's cute. Paris Hilton has that. So. Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (12:03)

Where'd she put it.

Trisha Paytas (12:04)

She posted it on Tick Tock.

Moses Hacmon (12:05)

But just for fun.

Trisha Paytas (12:07)

She. Her kids were playing with it.

Oscar (12:09)

So Jimmy's next birthday. Just wait.

Moses Hacmon (12:13)

Jimmy's next birthday. That's not until next year.

Oscar (12:16)

That's fine.

Moses Hacmon (12:17)

I mean, the kids will probably like it. I mean, Jimmy, if you want it. I don't know, whoever wants it, Jimmy's fine.

Trisha Paytas (12:21)

Okay, everybody. Like, Jesus Christ.

Moses Hacmon (12:23)

Thank you. Yes. We need to clarify. Poor Jimmy. He would love him and his fine.

Trisha Paytas (12:28)

Like, he's okay, everybody. My dog.

Moses Hacmon (12:31)

Well, I guess he did have a few stolen, but he's made up for.

Trisha Paytas (12:34)

It with his good luck. Okay.

Moses Hacmon (12:36)

Yeah, that's true. Well, there is the labo boo. Yes. Oh, man. That. Yeah, the Boo Boos are fun. I'm not gonna lie. They are. They're kind of exciting. Yeah. Are you over them or you still like them?

Trisha Paytas (12:47)

I'm medium. I'm. I mean, I still like the ones I have, but I am kind of like I'm moving on.

Moses Hacmon (12:52)

To what?

Trisha Paytas (12:54)

I'm on the quest for a new hyper fixation. It's open. The slot is open. Who knows what will fill the void, But I'm sure it's coming.

Moses Hacmon (13:00)

I love it. I love a new hyper fixation.

Trisha Paytas (13:02)

Gives me something to live for. Come on.

Moses Hacmon (13:04)

Exactly. I need a person to hyper fixate on next because I haven't had one in a while.

Trisha Paytas (13:08)

I think mine people wise is definitely cat's eye. That's like the. You know, they're always just top of mind for me. Still the usual suspect. Still Technivizen Gen X pen. Oh, okay.

Moses Hacmon (13:19)

Well, technician was gone for a minute. You were kind of over him.

Trisha Paytas (13:21)

True, I think, because I, like, got him. But then I haven't seen him in a little bit, so now I'm like, oh, miss him. So he's back. He's in the top of my mind again. Usual suspects.

Moses Hacmon (13:31)

Yeah, but you're not looking for anyone new at the moment.

Trisha Paytas (13:33)

People wise, no. Hobby wise. Material wise. Consumption wise, Yes.

Moses Hacmon (13:38)

I don't need any more material consumption obsessions. Like, I do spend too much money. In general. I've been so much better. But again, like, I spent $500 on Tula Boo Boos in the past two weeks and I was like, why am I even doing this? But the rainbow is worth it, I'm gonna say. It's just so cute. It's so adorable.

Trisha Paytas (13:53)

And it's a little gay. Come on.

Moses Hacmon (13:55)

Oh, it's very gay. I know someone. I told you people on TikTok were mad. We haven't talked about Gays enough. So we need to think of something.

Trisha Paytas (14:00)

Gay it up.

Moses Hacmon (14:01)

I don't know. What can we do?

Trisha Paytas (14:03)

How can we be gayer? I don't know. I don't know either. I feel like we always represent.

Oscar (14:07)

Yeah, More pink.

Moses Hacmon (14:10)

Is pink gay? I don't know if that's one of.

Trisha Paytas (14:12)

My hot topics was bulges today. So I guess that could be bulge.

Moses Hacmon (14:17)

Should we start it right off the bat? I don't know if YouTube's censoring.

Trisha Paytas (14:20)

I think bulges are. Bulges are safe to discuss.

Moses Hacmon (14:23)

Who's.

Trisha Paytas (14:24)

I was gonna talk about Tom Holland's bulge because everyone's going crazy for it.

Moses Hacmon (14:28)

But Spider man outfit for the new.

Trisha Paytas (14:29)

Spider man outfit in the Tom Holland bulge.

Oscar (14:31)

But because I saw a wedgie. I didn't see a bulk.

Trisha Paytas (14:33)

He was. He did have a wedgie as well. Yes. Two separate things at the same time. Combination, if you will.

Moses Hacmon (14:39)

But how do you have a wedgie? Tight in the butt and tight in the front.

Trisha Paytas (14:43)

Okay. My thing is, maybe gay people would be mad, but everybody. These actors are not free balling in their very expensive, like, superhero outfits. I feel like everyone should just know that. Right.

Moses Hacmon (14:55)

Okay, but then how do you get the wedgie? Oh, because of the underwear. But you're. You're saying they're expecting it to just flop.

Trisha Paytas (15:00)

People are, like, zooming in on, like, oh, my God, look at that. But they did it to, like, David Cornstone, Superman, and even, like, Henry Cavill's Superman doing it as Tom Holland. And I'm like, they're not free balling in there. Like, it's just. I thought everyone would kind of know.

Moses Hacmon (15:14)

The bulge or the imprint, but I think both. Because a baller that only comes from underwear and stuffing it. It has a bulge naturally.

Trisha Paytas (15:22)

Yeah. Because, I mean, oh, my God, The. The. The pain hanging over and then the balls in there, too. So it becomes a bulge. Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (15:30)

I feel like that's, like, just an imprint. I feel like that's not a bulge.

Trisha Paytas (15:34)

Well, the print is when you can also see the head visibly. And in some materials, it's more visible than others. But, I mean, people get excited over it.

Moses Hacmon (15:44)

But why? And it's almost like that for me with boobs, too. I'm not just coming for the gays. I'm coming for the straights, too. What is it about? Like, you need to see the head and the tip. I think that's. I don't want to see that.

Trisha Paytas (15:56)

I know.

Moses Hacmon (15:57)

I don't know what turns you on about. Turn somebody on about it, maybe not you getting the head of a horny gay man on Twitter.

Trisha Paytas (16:04)

I think maybe it's exciting because you see what they're packing, I guess. But looks can be deceiving because, you know, there's growers, there's showers, or, you know, it could be, I don't know.

Moses Hacmon (16:16)

But even when you get into it and take it a lot of things full throttle nude, I mean, I don't know. That doesn't excite me. Do you know what I mean? Like, boobs do. I'm not like, oh my God, like, you know, I don't know.

Trisha Paytas (16:27)

You're not what, motorboat?

Moses Hacmon (16:30)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (16:30)

I don't know.

Moses Hacmon (16:30)

Is that what they do? I don't know. But guy does that to me. I'm like, oh, what are you, 12? Like, what? Not that I know what a 12 year old would do, but I'm just saying, like it feels like something a 12 year old would get excited about.

Trisha Paytas (16:40)

Oh, like a pre. Like a, you know. Puberty.

Moses Hacmon (16:43)

Yes.

Trisha Paytas (16:43)

I've never seen boobs or something, but.

Moses Hacmon (16:45)

They'Re really just some.

Trisha Paytas (16:46)

I don't know, I think it's just the excitement of seeing how big someone is, I guess. I would love to do a study. Maybe we should do a psychological study for like. Wow. Yeah. A deep dive. We sent out a survey.

Moses Hacmon (17:00)

How many people said, ask Steve Harvey to ask that? This is so. Yeah, I don't get it, but okay. I look like a nice face.

Trisha Paytas (17:07)

Some kind face card is a face card card. I think like a nice butt is impressive.

Moses Hacmon (17:12)

You grab it, it's squishy. It feels good. But I'm sorry, just looking at the outline of something is not going to be like exciting to me.

Trisha Paytas (17:19)

No, I don't really get like that excited over just a flopping flaccid peen myself, but I don't want to rain on anyone's parade.

Moses Hacmon (17:28)

Is it bad to call someone flaccid?

Trisha Paytas (17:30)

No, because everyone's. Yeah, that's what I thought. Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (17:33)

Because in death becomes hurt. Spoiler alert. It's 30 years old, but he pushes her down the stairs because she calls him flaccid shake. Flaccid. Flaccid, placid. And then he pushes her down.

Trisha Paytas (17:40)

I guess maybe if he has like ere dysfunction and he can only be flaccid and it's probably triggering. So trigger warning to anyone with erectile design.

Moses Hacmon (17:49)

I mean, there's medication.

Trisha Paytas (17:50)

There is.

Moses Hacmon (17:51)

We should get sponsored by ED medication. There's two forms of ed. That's crazy because they call it that. Wow, that's Crazy.

Trisha Paytas (18:02)

Yeah. And then I saw another tweet that was like, I, I mean it could be factual, I don't know. But they allege, they alleged that they knew someone who worked on VFX on the last Spider man movie. And they were. And the tweet was like, my friend had to CGI Tom Holland's bulge smaller in the last Spider man movie. I'm like, do you believe it? I don't, I mean again, I don't think he's freeballing, but maybe the cup or something was a large and distracting. I don't know.

Moses Hacmon (18:30)

Because yeah, you do too much.

Trisha Paytas (18:33)

Yeah. And I didn't, when I was, I was trying to research, I was like, Tom Holland bulge cgi.

Moses Hacmon (18:38)

Oh my God, that's your Google search.

Trisha Paytas (18:39)

And oh, okay. I researched there. I found two things via my research. Okay. First one, Austin Butler and his new movie. I think you mentioned it a couple weeks ago. Like that new movie that just had a trailer. In the first trailer, he had a bulge. In the second trailer, they CGI'd the bulge out.

Moses Hacmon (18:55)

Moses mentioned this, not the bulge.

Oscar (18:57)

No, don't do.

Trisha Paytas (18:57)

He just mentioned the movie.

Moses Hacmon (19:00)

Don't remember that.

Trisha Paytas (19:01)

Hot Topic just mentioned the movie.

Moses Hacmon (19:03)

Got it. Oh, so he had one and they CGI'd out in this first trailer.

Trisha Paytas (19:06)

Yeah, there was a bull. Second trailer, they.

Moses Hacmon (19:07)

What movie is it?

Trisha Paytas (19:08)

I forget what it was called. It's like a biopic or he. I know. He's shirtless in it.

Moses Hacmon (19:13)

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Trisha Paytas (20:34)

You've seen. Oh, you didn't see Dune? He's ripped in Dune.

Moses Hacmon (20:37)

Really?

Trisha Paytas (20:38)

It's called Caught Stealing with the one with Zoe Kravitz as well.

Moses Hacmon (20:43)

Yeah, T love it.

Trisha Paytas (20:45)

But I think his big shirtless debut was Dune Part two because he got really like beefed up for it anyway.

Moses Hacmon (20:51)

Okay, you liked it or no.

Trisha Paytas (20:52)

Doom Part 2.

Moses Hacmon (20:53)

His body.

Trisha Paytas (20:55)

He was bald in it and.

Moses Hacmon (20:58)

Oh, that's your Halloween costume. He said he wanted to be bald.

Trisha Paytas (21:01)

I was thinking more like Lex Luthor.

Moses Hacmon (21:03)

But is he bald? No, be Dune dude.

Trisha Paytas (21:09)

No, it came out in 2024.

Moses Hacmon (21:11)

That's last year. You have to do one from this year.

Trisha Paytas (21:14)

Yeah, I gotta be hot.

Moses Hacmon (21:15)

Oh my God.

Trisha Paytas (21:15)

You gotta be on it.

Moses Hacmon (21:16)

Well, you're gonna be hot. Be him.

Trisha Paytas (21:18)

No, I mean hot topically.

Moses Hacmon (21:20)

Oh, not me. I'm death becomes 40 years.

Trisha Paytas (21:24)

Your hot topics are things from 10 years ago. So.

Moses Hacmon (21:26)

Yeah, we just had to get more girls last night. Oh, I have so much to say about that.

Trisha Paytas (21:31)

But I was just thinking yesterday I was like, when is she gonna watch something that's like on right now?

Moses Hacmon (21:36)

I know. I was like, what's this? Because we finished all the murders. And I was like, oh, it's gilmore girls. Melissa McCarthy's in it. Like, we should watch it. And he's like, it's after Mike and Molly. I'm like, no, it's like 2000. It's good though. All right. You seen it?

Trisha Paytas (21:48)

My mom and I used to watch it when it was on the. Whatever. It was on Channel 5. I think I forgot what they called.

Moses Hacmon (21:54)

Oh, like cable. Like, was it cable?

Trisha Paytas (21:59)

I don't know, Channel 5.

Moses Hacmon (22:00)

I don't know, like ABC or something. I don't know.

Trisha Paytas (22:02)

It was like the same channel that like Reba was on and stuff.

Moses Hacmon (22:05)

Oh, what was that? There was like, cw, but not cw.

Trisha Paytas (22:08)

It was pre cw. The one right before CW Family. I think it was like, w. Maybe it was wb.

Moses Hacmon (22:12)

I remember wb.

Trisha Paytas (22:13)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (22:14)

Yeah, that makes sense because they did shoot at the Warner Brothers.

Trisha Paytas (22:16)

Yes.

Moses Hacmon (22:17)

Where's Stars Hollow? Is it a real town?

Trisha Paytas (22:19)

No, it's not. They still have it set up on the lot. You can go see it.

Moses Hacmon (22:23)

Yeah, I've been at Warner Brothers recently. I haven't seen it where they do.

Trisha Paytas (22:26)

I think it's on the Warner Brothers lot. They still like Pete. They. Especially in fall. Because Gilmore Girls is a very fall show, so they always have, like, something. Gilmore Girls.

Moses Hacmon (22:34)

Should we go on the Warner Brothers tour? I've never done it. Yes. Have you done it?

Trisha Paytas (22:38)

No.

Moses Hacmon (22:39)

Okay. That could be fun.

Trisha Paytas (22:40)

Yeah, that could be fun.

Moses Hacmon (22:41)

Then I could get out of the house because it's for work. I'll be like Moses. I gotta go. It's work. That'd be so fun. Maybe the kids can. Maybe Mama come. I don't know how old you have to be to be on that tour. I feel like it's three. She's almost three.

Trisha Paytas (22:51)

I think it's kid friendly. I mean, they just take you on a little, like, you know, cram thing or whatever. Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (22:57)

Do we get a VIP?

Trisha Paytas (22:58)

Probably.

Moses Hacmon (22:59)

Really? @ Warner Brothers?

Trisha Paytas (23:00)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (23:01)

Such a small lot. I think they did some Aquaman there. Oh, yeah, probably. Yeah. I was like, I love that so much. I should have Warner Brothers this year. Back to the Bulge.

Trisha Paytas (23:10)

Oh, yes, yes, yes.

Moses Hacmon (23:11)

The research. Austin Butler balls out bulge down.

Trisha Paytas (23:14)

So Austin Butler was CGI down. And then I was again in my research. You know the show the Boys? It's like a satire of superheroes. Like Marvel and dc. No, ironically, the character's called the Deep. And it's like a. It's by Chase Crawford from, you know.

Moses Hacmon (23:31)

Chase Crawford? Yeah, of course. He's like Chad Michael Murray too, right? They're like the same.

Trisha Paytas (23:34)

I guess they.

Moses Hacmon (23:36)

Same.

Trisha Paytas (23:36)

Look, well, he was in Gossip Girl. I guess Winter Hill is around the same time.

Moses Hacmon (23:41)

Oh, no.

Trisha Paytas (23:41)

Nate Archibald and Gossip Girl.

Moses Hacmon (23:44)

Okay, maybe. I have no idea. Maybe I'm just telling you.

Trisha Paytas (23:47)

Okay. Anyway, he. For. Okay, so it. The boys is like a spoof or satire of superhero shows. Like an adult X. Like, rated R, kind of.

Moses Hacmon (23:58)

Where's it air?

Trisha Paytas (23:59)

On Amazon Prime.

Moses Hacmon (24:01)

It's new.

Trisha Paytas (24:02)

It's. It's on its final season, so.

Moses Hacmon (24:04)

No, I love something on a final season.

Trisha Paytas (24:07)

But he forgot because it's, like, very much like R rated. So first, I don't know why they thought It'd be funny for his scenes because he also is in the superhero suit, like always. He had a prosthetic penis in his costume. So he always had bulge and print. And then.

Moses Hacmon (24:27)

Why.

Trisha Paytas (24:28)

And then Amazon was like, no, you guys. Once they shot it all, like, with him having a prosthetic, so he always had a print the whole season. And then when they showed it to Amazon, they were like, no, you guys have to, like, CGI this out. So again, in the boys, they also had a CGI bulge out.

Moses Hacmon (24:43)

That seems. That also seems a little problematic because what if that was just his natural look?

Trisha Paytas (24:48)

Then I guess they would have made him wear a cup or something. I don't know. Or see, just. Again, CGI'd out. But it's also weird because the show is very, like, raunchy. And, like, there's one scene where one of the heroes, or not even the hero, one of the superpowered people is just that he has a really long sausage. I think it's called Long Sausage. I think that's his name.

Moses Hacmon (25:10)

Is it Stars in it. I've never heard of this.

Trisha Paytas (25:12)

Chase Crawford.

Moses Hacmon (25:13)

Oh, Chase.

Trisha Paytas (25:15)

Who else is it? Who?

Moses Hacmon (25:16)

Chase Crawford play the deep.

Trisha Paytas (25:17)

Like the Aquaman character. There's like an evil Superman kind of character.

Moses Hacmon (25:23)

But they can't get sued because it's like they have different costumes and stuff.

Trisha Paytas (25:26)

Different costumes, different names.

Moses Hacmon (25:27)

But it's implied that he's Aquaman or what.

Trisha Paytas (25:31)

The powers are the same, so I see it. So, yeah, yeah.

Moses Hacmon (25:35)

Seems a little problematic, maybe.

Trisha Paytas (25:37)

It's so satirical and it's like a. They have like a. I don't know. It's a commentary on, like, politics and everything. So. Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (25:45)

So, okay. Aren't they.

Trisha Paytas (25:49)

Yeah, it's like, yeah, superhero. Then the superheroes want to take over the White House and stuff. Okay, yeah, yeah.

Moses Hacmon (25:55)

The good superheroes or the evil one?

Trisha Paytas (25:57)

You said it's all about. There's you describing the Eve. The superheroes are all evil. And then there's a group that is trying to, like, take down the evil superheroes, basically.

Moses Hacmon (26:07)

Who's that group? What are they called?

Trisha Paytas (26:09)

I forget the Boys.

Moses Hacmon (26:13)

But they're not superheroes.

Trisha Paytas (26:14)

They. Some of them have powers. Like, two of them have powers, but the rest are just regular people.

Moses Hacmon (26:18)

It's very confusing, my superhero era. But that sounds very.

Trisha Paytas (26:21)

That one, I don't think is for you because it's very graphic. Very. A lot of sex, a lot of big schlongs.

Moses Hacmon (26:27)

I think it sounds like. I wouldn't be opposed to it.

Trisha Paytas (26:30)

Well, it's like. It's Just long.

Moses Hacmon (26:34)

Yeah, I'm not a longy.

Trisha Paytas (26:35)

And I think they wrap around. I think that's how they, like, kill someone, is like they wrap it around. There's one scene where like a little, like Ant man character goes into someone's, like, butthole and then gets big and kills them that way.

Moses Hacmon (26:46)

So anyway, sounds like a show we're watching. Let's get on that.

Trisha Paytas (26:50)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (26:51)

You love it though. You watch it.

Trisha Paytas (26:53)

Yeah, I love the boys. Okay. Yeah. But, yeah, all that to say bulges do get CGI'd out.

Moses Hacmon (26:59)

Yeah, as they should. I take it back because it's like, yeah, if you can cut. But then it goes like, why should we cover our natural born body? Obviously it's a prosthetic, but, like, if you just see an imprint somewhere, why should that be censored? I think that's same thing with nipples. I see that with anything part of it.

Oscar (27:13)

They make women wear bras, pasties.

Moses Hacmon (27:15)

I'm wearing pasties all the time because it's such a little nip. It's like you're blocked forever. And it's like if something natural in your body, I guess if it's like a prosthetic and it's not natural, but like, if, you know, if guys just want to go free ball and they should, especially in a Spider man outfit. Because, like, why wear underwear?

Trisha Paytas (27:30)

I think maybe in a Fame, like a kid movie. I don't know if, you know, Prince should just be there.

Moses Hacmon (27:36)

But then kids, right? I would think I would find a boy. I think, where's his. Where's his thing? Like mine, you know, I was a.

Trisha Paytas (27:42)

Little boy watching superhero movies. I never once thought, really? Yeah. I never once thought, where Superman's.

Moses Hacmon (27:47)

Oh, I always thought that I would see like, like Pamela Anderson and her Baywatch swimsuit. Right? She had the littlest, like, there's no fupa like mine. And I was like, where's her vagina? My mom said, what are you talking about? Like, what, What? You're six. Like, what do you mean, where's your vagina? I was like, I don't see it. Because mine was so thick. And I was just like, you know. Cause I had the fupa. And I was like, so I just thought every girl had like a fat. A fat, fat thing right there, but they don't. Some people just have the insert and it's just like bones, which I love, but I didn't know. And you're just like, as. As a kid, you're confused. And I'm like, what's wrong with mine? And then obviously when you get older and you seeing girls naked in, like, videos and stuff, you're just like, wait, now everyone has, like a hairy patch? You know?

Trisha Paytas (28:28)

Okay.

Moses Hacmon (28:28)

Yeah. I don't know. I would just think I'd want to see personally, but okay.

Oscar (28:33)

People are just like Ken and Barbie. They're just.

Moses Hacmon (28:35)

That's what I'm saying. You don't want people to think that he sees Spider man and he's like, oh, spider. Yeah, maybe. Maybe not as a little boy, but he's a teenager. Teen. I don't know. Whatever. I. Look, it's a personal choice, I suppose, but let's more blame gay Twitter, I guess, for his trying to zoom in and look at the bulge. Maybe also keep respectful of people. Don't zoom in. And a wedgie at the other day. Who doesn't have them? I have wedgies all the time.

Trisha Paytas (28:57)

I know. Especially in that outfit. And, like, you're on the harnesses and you're swinging all around like you're gonna have.

Moses Hacmon (29:02)

Yeah, he has a harness on.

Trisha Paytas (29:03)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (29:04)

People were mad. They loved it.

Trisha Paytas (29:05)

No, they loved it.

Moses Hacmon (29:06)

They love the wedgie, too.

Trisha Paytas (29:07)

Yeah. I think everyone's just living for.

Moses Hacmon (29:08)

People think weddies are hot.

Trisha Paytas (29:11)

I think it depends on who is the wedgie.

Oscar (29:14)

Just don't expect a superhero to have a wedgie.

Moses Hacmon (29:17)

I think it's kind of. Again, I guess you'd probably like, oh, I wish I could be that wedgie. Oh, right. Is that what people are thinking when it's hot?

Trisha Paytas (29:23)

I don't know.

Moses Hacmon (29:25)

I would. I'm trying to get in the head of these people who like it.

Trisha Paytas (29:27)

I think. I guess we really should do the survey and find out. Yeah. I love that you started, like, against right, and then you ended up 180.

Moses Hacmon (29:35)

Why am I trying to shame something? I don't get the turn on. It's like. It's like feet. When people like, I love feet. I'm like, okay, but what is it that excites you? I guess you can't really explain it. It's probably like love. You can't really explain. Explain why you love something you just.

Trisha Paytas (29:47)

So I guess the. There was one who has like those photos of David. Corn sweat. When he's, like, on the beach and then he has a big bulge. I was like, okay, I guess it's. He's just huge. And then same with. Who's that guy? He's in the leftovers. What is.

Moses Hacmon (30:06)

He's in left. What's leftovers?

Trisha Paytas (30:07)

It's. It was an old HBO show. Oh, my God. What Is his name. What's his. His last name is Ham.

Moses Hacmon (30:12)

Oh, John Ham.

Trisha Paytas (30:13)

John Ham.

Moses Hacmon (30:13)

Love John Ham, I think. I don't know what he's from, but we like him. I think he was on SNL or something. I think it was John Ham. Sounds so familiar. Fifty Shades of Gray.

Trisha Paytas (30:24)

No. Oh, wait, no. Oh, I think Justin Thoreau. Actually, it's just in Thoreau.

Moses Hacmon (30:28)

Oh, Canada. Prime Minister.

Trisha Paytas (30:30)

That's.

Moses Hacmon (30:30)

Did he date.

Trisha Paytas (30:32)

That's Justin Trudeau.

Moses Hacmon (30:33)

What did you say? Who's that? What's the difference?

Trisha Paytas (30:38)

He used to take Jennifer Aniston. He was on the leftovers. Anyway, there's one. Everyone always uses him as a print example because he. There was a scene where he was filming in gray sweatpants, and it was just big. And also, I think I was also thinking Jon Hamm, and I. I don't remember the photo vividly, but I know people call him the Hamiconda because he also had a big bulge. Anyway, there's something wrong with people.

Moses Hacmon (31:00)

I feel bad for these guys, and I never thought I'd say that. I never thought I'd feel bad for men.

Trisha Paytas (31:03)

I think men are okay having nicknames about their big penises.

Moses Hacmon (31:07)

I don't know. It's just a little objectifying.

Trisha Paytas (31:11)

That could be a second survey.

Moses Hacmon (31:12)

Yeah, I think so.

Trisha Paytas (31:13)

You have a big penis. Do you feel sad if people say, hey, big peen. What do you.

Moses Hacmon (31:17)

Yeah, you know what? They might. I would make fun of when I was literally in middle school. Middle school, okay. They called me huge, and I hated that. Seriously. I would, like, cry about it. And I think that's probably the same for men. That's like, wait, I kind of feel bad for them.

Oscar (31:36)

I see those Hollywood stars crying at home. I see those Hollywood stars at home alone crying.

Moses Hacmon (31:41)

Maybe I've had D list. People tell me. They're like, I just want to let you know I'm so big. And then I'd see. I'd be, no, you're not. So I think people want it until they have it. And then the people who actually have it are like, this is actually a curse. It hurts. Who was it? Meghan Trainor talks about her husband. Like, they can't have sex because it hurts. Chick. We can't have sex because it physically hurts me. I think she talks about it on podcast.

Trisha Paytas (32:03)

But does he feel bad about it, or does she feel bad that he. Oh, okay.

Moses Hacmon (32:08)

He's like, damn, we can't. She's like, physically, I can't.

Trisha Paytas (32:11)

Oh, okay. Who knew little Junie was packing like that?

Moses Hacmon (32:16)

Everyone. Because Mega Trainer has a podcast. She didn't tell me personally. Maybe. Maybe we could, I guess, do a follow up. Because I remember she's like, I had to go to a doctor. Because I was like, I don't know what to do. Sounds crazy. It sounds good. Until it happened. That happens. And I was like, I don't know.

Trisha Paytas (32:34)

Yeah, Yeah. I never would want to deal with anything. I mean, yeah, there was one time in my era where, like, someone took it out. It was too. I walked away. I was like, okay.

Moses Hacmon (32:43)

No, that's what I'm saying. I think. No. And I think bulges are okay, but I don't think they should be objectified.

Trisha Paytas (32:49)

Okay.

Moses Hacmon (32:50)

I think we should.

Trisha Paytas (32:51)

So you. You want to see a bulge, but you don't want it?

Moses Hacmon (32:54)

I don't want to see.

Oscar (32:55)

My. My eyes are up here.

Moses Hacmon (32:57)

Who said that?

Oscar (32:58)

No, if the person has a bulge. But then, yes.

Moses Hacmon (33:01)

No, I definitely don't want to see a bulge. I think they're disgusting. However, they're natural. So if you want to show it, you should be able to. I'm just making my argument that's like. Like, okay, they should be allowed to show it. Shouldn't be like, oh, my God, censor it. I just don't want to see that. You know what I mean? But, like, you should be allowed to because it's natural. You know what I mean? But I think it's like, yeah, a little objectifying. Poor Tom Holland. Probably, like, Jesus, guys. I think that. I think some people do as. You know, like, there's. There's like, certain people I follow like, that go on tour, you know, bands and stuff like that, and the fans will be weird and, like, zoom in and be like, look at the bold. And I feel like maybe some artists don't want that. Maybe Jon Hamm loves it. Maybe like you said, his name is John Hamm. He's right. Like, look at this big ham, you know? But, like, there's some, like, musicians who are, like, very. Just take their music seriously, and they don't want to be like, oh, look at his penis through that.

Trisha Paytas (33:42)

Okay, that makes sense. I wonder what. Jonathan Bailey, he was another one that he keeps going viral for his bulge. Which again, maybe is. I don't know.

Moses Hacmon (33:51)

Well, look, you put me in a harness, I'm gonna have a bulge. Like, anyone's gonna have a bulge and a harness. Like, that's like, literally strapping them in. I do have a big bulge now that we're talking about it. Give me some tight pants because it looks crazy. It looks Like I'm packing for sure. Although I am wearing a diaper sometimes. So that could be that. I don't know. I guess we should ask these actors individually what they feel about being objectified.

Trisha Paytas (34:13)

I really think we should do this like a study. How I think you just make a poll or a Google form and then I guess we can just post it.

Moses Hacmon (34:23)

Seemed also a little sus. Why is Trisha asking her fans for.

Trisha Paytas (34:27)

Bulge input but we're not asking for photographic evidence. We're just asking to put your responses in there.

Moses Hacmon (34:33)

I'll do a poll on just so.

Trisha Paytas (34:35)

We can have the information.

Oscar (34:37)

Do a tier list.

Moses Hacmon (34:41)

That's our Patreon episode that I'd be down for for sure.

Trisha Paytas (34:44)

Scientific because I guess we don't know, like, do people want to have their bulges talked about? Do you. If you have a. If you're hung like a horse, do you want that to be disguised?

Moses Hacmon (34:55)

Probably not.

Trisha Paytas (34:55)

I don't know.

Moses Hacmon (34:56)

Okay, we'll ask. We were watching. What did we watch about a bulge yesterday? We were watching bulges.

Oscar (35:01)

No, there was murders in the building.

Moses Hacmon (35:03)

Oh yeah.

Oscar (35:04)

They were wearing like tight clothes. Spandex for CGI thing. You know when you have the spandex with the dots on it and Putnam. What's his name?

Moses Hacmon (35:14)

Putnam. Yeah.

Oscar (35:15)

What's his actual march? Or like he packed it like it's funny.

Moses Hacmon (35:18)

I don't think he did that. Was that part. Was that because they never addressed it.

Oscar (35:22)

They did because then Steve Martin went to him and took the sticker off of it. It's like, you're not.

Moses Hacmon (35:26)

What?

Oscar (35:27)

Yeah, and he pulled the sticker like the ball that goes on top of it and pulls it out.

Moses Hacmon (35:31)

The first thing he said is like, oh, he's stuffed. And I was like, no, I don't know. I didn't know that.

Oscar (35:35)

You know, like he was stuffed so much. It's kind of like the, you know, the old fashioned knights in tights, you know, anyway, knights and tights, when they stuff it so much that it's funny.

Moses Hacmon (35:47)

Okay, that was funny. You noticed? I don't know. I didn't notice that at all. But I was like, okay.

Oscar (35:51)

Because it was so much.

Moses Hacmon (35:54)

Why did he do that? I think it's a bit or for.

Oscar (35:56)

Yeah, I think so. I think that. I think the whole thing is about this character because his fiance was on a shoot with a movie star that's known for a big one.

Moses Hacmon (36:05)

What?

Oscar (36:06)

Yeah, I watch shows with her and she doesn't know.

Moses Hacmon (36:10)

That's the plot. Meryl Streep is on a Movie set with a guy with a big penis.

Oscar (36:14)

That's why you made the whole Instagram. Fake Instagram is to figure out who this person is.

Trisha Paytas (36:19)

I remember that. Yeah.

Oscar (36:20)

Because there was a guy with a hand. His name was something about being big.

Trisha Paytas (36:25)

Yes, it's true. It's true.

Moses Hacmon (36:27)

I don't remember that at all.

Trisha Paytas (36:28)

I didn't even finish the season and I know that.

Moses Hacmon (36:30)

Oh, I guess that's why he pecked it at the end. It was like the last episode. All right. Damn you pay attention.

Oscar (36:37)

To your question. That was where we saw it yesterday.

Moses Hacmon (36:40)

Oh, okay. Okay.

Trisha Paytas (36:42)

Well, let us know in the comments below your thoughts.

Moses Hacmon (36:45)

Let us know.

Trisha Paytas (36:46)

Tweet us.

Moses Hacmon (36:48)

Tweet us. We're never checking our app mentions, but you can tweet us anyways. Poor Tom Holland. Zendaya's like, that's my bulge. I love the Hot Topics. It's starting off hot. Martin shorts. Bulge. And Tom Holland's side by side. No, we can't do side by side. Blur anything to me.

Trisha Paytas (37:06)

Are you gonna see the new Spider Man? You kind of got into the last Spider man movie.

Moses Hacmon (37:10)

I did the one with the three of them.

Trisha Paytas (37:11)

Yes.

Moses Hacmon (37:12)

Yeah. I'll see you. I like it. I think I like Spider Man. I think. I don't love that he's a little boy, kind of.

Trisha Paytas (37:22)

He was 10 years ago when the first one came out, but.

Moses Hacmon (37:24)

So does he get older in the movies?

Trisha Paytas (37:26)

I mean. Yeah, because now it's like, it's supposed to be him out of school. Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (37:33)

Don't they just restart it once? Like, because it wasn't Tobey Maguire in high school, and then Andrew Garfield was in high school. Tom Holland was in high school.

Trisha Paytas (37:38)

Yeah. He's getting a second trilogy. So now he's an adult. Yes.

Moses Hacmon (37:43)

I don't know if that's fair. If we're just, like, always starting fresh, like with Jurassic park every three. I think we should start with a new Spider Man.

Trisha Paytas (37:49)

Well, it's the Marvel Universe, you know, But.

Moses Hacmon (37:54)

Yeah, yeah, but if his trilogy's up.

Trisha Paytas (37:57)

But he's still, you know, this. I don't know. It's because it's. The other times it was like, there was a flop. Like, the third movie for Toby Maguire was a flop, so they gave it time and then they rebooted. The second movie for Andrew Garfield was a flop, so they gave it time and then they rebooted.

Moses Hacmon (38:12)

Oh, he only got two films.

Trisha Paytas (38:13)

Films, yeah. Andrew got two because the second one didn't do well.

Moses Hacmon (38:16)

Ah, how awful. Just, like, because your movie doesn't do well, they're like not you anymore.

Trisha Paytas (38:21)

That's this show biz, baby.

Moses Hacmon (38:22)

It's crazy.

Trisha Paytas (38:23)

So if you just, if you flop, it's over.

Moses Hacmon (38:25)

Yeah, that is a lot of pressure. Oh my God, that's crazy.

Trisha Paytas (38:31)

Tom Holland still.

Moses Hacmon (38:33)

Okay, so he's been killing it. So like, well, let's just give him 10 more movies.

Trisha Paytas (38:36)

Yeah, we'll free you.

Moses Hacmon (38:39)

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Trisha Paytas (41:17)

You know who is a different Spider man is Nicolas Cage. He isn't a new Nicolas Cage. Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (41:23)

Ew.

Trisha Paytas (41:24)

What is ew?

Moses Hacmon (41:25)

What? He's Spider man at 70. Like what do you mean?

Trisha Paytas (41:28)

I think on Amazon there's a new. The new Spider man show and he is.

Moses Hacmon (41:31)

He's Spider Man.

Trisha Paytas (41:32)

Spider Noir. This is so like in the weeds.

Moses Hacmon (41:34)

But is that the.

Trisha Paytas (41:35)

It's a very. A variation.

Moses Hacmon (41:37)

Is he in the all black Spider man outfit?

Trisha Paytas (41:39)

Yeah, black and white. Not the one you're thinking of, but similar.

Moses Hacmon (41:42)

How do you know what I'm thinking of?

Trisha Paytas (41:44)

Because I know the black and white one you're thinking of, but it's not what that one. Like Toby Maguire on that one.

Moses Hacmon (41:50)

What's that? What's it called? Evil Spider Man.

Trisha Paytas (41:52)

Symbiote. Spiderman.

Moses Hacmon (41:54)

Where's the Venom? I thought there was Venom Spiderman there.

Trisha Paytas (41:56)

What? Not that was a symbiote. That was Toby Maguire did that in the Spider Man 3. His name is Venom and not Toby McGuire. Jesus Christ. There was a Venom in Spider Man 3. In Tobey Maguire did get taken over by the Symbiote that's why he was Dark Spider Man. Anyway, then there was the Venom movies that just happened. Not to be confused with everything else.

Moses Hacmon (42:21)

You have to call him Dark Spider Man.

Trisha Paytas (42:23)

It's Symbiote Spider Man. But yeah.

Moses Hacmon (42:25)

Okay, do we cut whatever needs to be cut on that one? Because I don't know what I can say. Got it. Okay. You're very smart explaining, like, knowing all this actually. Like, how do you know? Do you research?

Trisha Paytas (42:34)

I just like superhero stuff, so.

Moses Hacmon (42:37)

Yeah, but they probably don't explain it in the movie. So after the movies, are you Googling?

Trisha Paytas (42:41)

I read the comics mostly. Not mostly. Mostly X Men, but I've dabbled in the other stuff. Like, I've dabbled in Fantastic Classic 4, Avengers, Spider Man. I did have a Spider man phase after the game came out. I do play the game, so that definitely helps.

Moses Hacmon (42:57)

That's how you're getting all this knowledge. And so you're not, like, Googling. You're not, like, on Reddit, looking at theories.

Trisha Paytas (43:01)

Sometimes I like to see movie breakdowns afterwards too, but.

Moses Hacmon (43:04)

Okay, so you do. Because that's what I do. I like, watch something, but then I go on, like, message boards and see, like, what everyone's.

Trisha Paytas (43:09)

I do a little bit of that too. Yeah. Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (43:11)

Because, like, they open up a whole new world.

Trisha Paytas (43:15)

Yeah. And with comics, there's so much history and, like, different writers make up different lore.

Moses Hacmon (43:20)

So most of them are just sometimes fan theories and not real.

Trisha Paytas (43:26)

I mean, Symbiote Spider man was pretty.

Moses Hacmon (43:30)

Like. I know, like symbiote. I was like, what is it? Yeah. Okay. Got it, Got it. I love it. I love people just come up with things, too. Like, some people are so smart when they watch something like, oh, I think this is this. And they're related to this person.

Trisha Paytas (43:42)

I know some people really come up with. With great theories, and I feel like a lot of the times I wonder if that was ever even, like, intended in the show. You know what I mean?

Moses Hacmon (43:51)

I think sometimes it's like, not. And they just made up a really good connection.

Trisha Paytas (43:54)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (43:55)

Because that's how it is right now with mcr. They do every weekend. And he started out looking like a vampire, like 20 years old. But they're thinking he's, like, slowly decaying as the tour goes on because he keeps, like, his makeup keeps getting, like, you know, like, cuts in it or, like, it's, like, getting more caked. And they're, like, thinking by the end of the tour, he's gonna be, like a skeleton version of himself. And I was like, wait, that's. That's such a good theory, because he's on the Black Parade tour, and the Black Parade is dead. And he's like, there's. He's slowly dying on each show. But if he's not, then that's just awkward because people are like, look, he's slowly decaying. And it's like, well, if he's just meant to be that way, then I don't know. But it's like, yeah.

Trisha Paytas (44:23)

Oh, wait, tell me. I already sent it to you. But the woman who broke her spine attempting the Nicki Minaj high school style.

Moses Hacmon (44:30)

Challenge, that's when I didn't read correctly. When he sent to me, I was like, ah, that's so funny. We'll do it. And then I didn't read it where I was like, oh, my God. Yeah. Because I thought you were just like, oh, look at what this girl did. I think because she just had a baby or something.

Trisha Paytas (44:39)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (44:39)

So I thought that's why you were saying it to me. It's like, all right, fine.

Trisha Paytas (44:42)

I thought it was so ominous because she did just have a baby. And then, yeah, she. She fractured her spine after trying it. And I was like, oh, my God, that was almost Trisha.

Moses Hacmon (44:49)

Yeah, no, I. I. Because I thought you said to me for that. And so I was like, oh, yeah, we'll do it next time. Like, I just thought, let's just do it. And then I saw more people talking about that story and how she's like. She's, like, not great, right? She's like, she is.

Trisha Paytas (44:59)

Okay. Yes.

Moses Hacmon (45:00)

I thought she was, like, like, parallel paralyzed.

Trisha Paytas (45:02)

Well, she did an interview saying that her and her baby are okay. She had a small fracture after doing the challenge.

Moses Hacmon (45:07)

Oh. Because I saw someone tweet. They're like. You know when people get disabled, like, later in life, I thought she was, like, paralyzed. Later.

Trisha Paytas (45:12)

It made it. The headlines made it sound worse than it was.

Moses Hacmon (45:16)

So she's okay.

Trisha Paytas (45:17)

Holy.

Moses Hacmon (45:18)

Well, in general, this is probably a good site. Not the story, but just, like, people don't do this because it just looks dangerous.

Trisha Paytas (45:24)

Like, it does look dangerous. Yeah, it looks fierce. If you can do it like lana Jeray from RuPaul's Drag Race did it.

Moses Hacmon (45:29)

Oh, so good.

Trisha Paytas (45:30)

And I think Lexi Love did it, like, at an airport, balancing on, like, a suitcase or something. It looks fear. So if you are agile and, you know.

Moses Hacmon (45:37)

Well, if you're, like, a properly trained queen. Yes.

Trisha Paytas (45:40)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (45:42)

Like, if you're doing a death drop, fine. But if you can't do that, then, like, don't do this trend. Like, it just looks scary.

Trisha Paytas (45:48)

She was on. She was balancing on a saucepan in a canister of baby formula stacked on top of a kitchen counter. And when she lost her balance, which is kind of on a kitchen counter. Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (46:00)

Oh, I didn't even know. I think the picture I saw that she was just on a coffee table. Oh, my God. How far did she fall? Oh. Oh, my God. That sounds so painful. Oh, my God. Just the idea. Because so many things can go wrong because you're on the heel, so your heel could. Your ankle could give out. Obviously falling off the counter sounds crazy like that.

Trisha Paytas (46:15)

It's also so odd because, like, the video that people are copying, the one that are. People were inspired by the, like the Nikki video, she also just is on the ground and she's. She's balancing on both her feet. Like, I don't know where it became, like, it became one foot on a stiletto and then it became balancing on one foot on something crazy.

Moses Hacmon (46:33)

So Nikki's on two.

Trisha Paytas (46:34)

Nikki's on two. Yeah. She has like, both her feet are on the ground, so I don't know where.

Moses Hacmon (46:38)

I just have both of your feet on the ground, but at least you.

Trisha Paytas (46:42)

Don'T have the balance.

Moses Hacmon (46:43)

That's true, I guess.

Trisha Paytas (46:43)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (46:44)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (46:44)

You have something supporting you.

Moses Hacmon (46:46)

Yeah. Those tick tock trends are never. They should, like, do a little caution. This could hurt you. People just doing random things.

Trisha Paytas (46:52)

It was so after she fell, she had a compression flexion fracture to her spine. So, yeah, the headline is that she completely broke her spine. It was like, it was still bad. It's still a small fracture. But she said that both her and her newborn baby are okay and she is recovering after she went to the.

Moses Hacmon (47:10)

Hospital, how many weeks Was she postpartum? 8.

Trisha Paytas (47:14)

I don't. My notes don't have it.

Moses Hacmon (47:16)

I don't know either way, that is wild. But, you know, after you have a baby, you're just like, let me get back to normal. Let me just do this. Oh, my gosh. Never. I know my limits. She's tiny. You know, sometimes you just think like, you know, tiny people can do this because they're like, they have more the less to balance. But have we seen any bigger people do it?

Trisha Paytas (47:36)

I saw a compilation of bigger people failing it.

Moses Hacmon (47:39)

Oh, fails are funny. I always think I'm just gonna do it because even if it's a fail, it's funny. But until you get hurt. Until someone's hurt. Oh, my gosh. Did she have hers Vale? Did she post it?

Trisha Paytas (47:50)

Yeah. She posted still up. Yeah. And then she did, like, another. She did a follow up with, like, people commenting, and I believe it's. It's in a different language too. I don't want to say because I don't read it, but yeah, someone. She did an interview with the sun and stated that she's. Okay.

Moses Hacmon (48:06)

Okay.

Trisha Paytas (48:06)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (48:06)

Well, okay, that's good.

Trisha Paytas (48:07)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (48:08)

Careful doing this.

Trisha Paytas (48:09)

It didn't even get that many views for, like, how.

Moses Hacmon (48:11)

Really?

Trisha Paytas (48:11)

Yeah. I'm like, damn. At least give her some more views.

Moses Hacmon (48:14)

20 million, 100 million views. Not a trend I'll be doing. But you said you wanted to try it. Don't try it. I would say try it, but don't.

Trisha Paytas (48:21)

Darian did it barefoot, but he also just did on the ground. I'm like, no, you gotta bounce on something.

Moses Hacmon (48:27)

Yeah, that's what I said.

Trisha Paytas (48:30)

And he's like, well, I don't know if I. I just like, well, get me a heel and I'll do it. And I said, well, Trisha said that she'll give you one of hers.

Moses Hacmon (48:36)

Oh, yeah. What size is he?

Trisha Paytas (48:38)

He has a small but wide foot.

Moses Hacmon (48:39)

I feel like probably, yeah, my foot is so wide.

Trisha Paytas (48:43)

He has a small but wide foot.

Moses Hacmon (48:44)

Grab a heel in the glam room and give it to him. I have some big ones in there. Yeah, I would love to see him do it because he is strong.

Trisha Paytas (48:51)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (48:51)

Were you guys just, like, hanging out?

Trisha Paytas (48:53)

Well, I was telling. He was, I think, oh, Nicki Minaj did it yesterday. And he was. And he's a Barb, so he's like, look, Nikki did it. And then I was like, oh, yeah. Trisha said that you could probably do it. But I said, he, I don't think you could because you're kind of clumsy. And then he was trying to, like, you know, prove me wrong.

Moses Hacmon (49:08)

And were you just. Where were you set it up? Are you on the couch? Are you on the bed?

Trisha Paytas (49:10)

Couch? Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (49:11)

And he's like, okay, let me on the floor and do this right now.

Trisha Paytas (49:14)

That's literally how it went.

Moses Hacmon (49:15)

I can't even picture. I guess I can't picture anyone in a relationship because it's always funny to me. I'm like, I wonder what they just, like, do, like, any. Anybody. Like, what do you just do at night? What do you talk about? What are you doing? Like, usually.

Trisha Paytas (49:27)

We. We eat dinner together. We watch something while we eat. And then when we're on the couch, we'll watch something. Or sometimes he'll read while I play game. Like a video game.

Moses Hacmon (49:37)

Wow.

Trisha Paytas (49:38)

And then usually in bed he stays up later than me, so I'll like read and fall asleep while he watches something. You read before bed right now? Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (49:47)

What are you reading?

Trisha Paytas (49:48)

It's kind of morbid right now.

Moses Hacmon (49:50)

What is it?

Trisha Paytas (49:51)

It's a book on. It's like a murder book.

Moses Hacmon (49:53)

Real. Like you're crying real?

Trisha Paytas (49:55)

Yeah. On the Idaho four case. Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (49:58)

A book already about it?

Trisha Paytas (49:59)

Yeah. Well, it's been.

Moses Hacmon (50:00)

Who wrote it?

Trisha Paytas (50:01)

Three years. James Patterson worked with like another writer and then. And the victim's family. So the victim's families were involved in it.

Moses Hacmon (50:08)

So James, is he fiction though?

Trisha Paytas (50:10)

He does fiction, but he also like produces a lot of stuff in crime.

Moses Hacmon (50:15)

Oh my God.

Trisha Paytas (50:16)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (50:17)

You know.

Oscar (50:18)

When did it come out? Cuz the trial just.

Trisha Paytas (50:20)

It came out right before they timed it when they thought the trial was going to happen. So like Amazon released a special and the book was supposed to come out and then it was before the Brian Coburg had the plea deal and then so yeah, then the plea deal came in. So the ending doesn't really match up with. With what is currently going on.

Moses Hacmon (50:38)

Were they predicting what was going to happen or what?

Trisha Paytas (50:39)

No, it just had. They had sources and the fan, like some of the victims families that haven't done like other interviews, like they actually shared their story and worked with like the author to kind of fill in the timeline and the blanks and stuff.

Moses Hacmon (50:54)

That's so scary.

Trisha Paytas (50:55)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (50:55)

Oh, okay. Anyway, so yeah. Ever I watch a scary TV show before bed, I get nightmares. I would not want to read something scary.

Trisha Paytas (51:05)

Maybe your mom would enjoy it though.

Moses Hacmon (51:06)

At night before you go to sleep. No, thank you. Oh my gosh. Well, read a happy book. What's a happy one that's coming out?

Trisha Paytas (51:16)

Yours.

Moses Hacmon (51:18)

Mine is good. I read part of mine to Moses and I cried at myself. I was like, wow, I'm so good at writing. So it is a good one coming next year.

Trisha Paytas (51:26)

Really? Next year already?

Moses Hacmon (51:27)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (51:28)

Whoa.

Moses Hacmon (51:28)

Wearing out this since like last August.

Trisha Paytas (51:30)

It's been a long time. Wow.

Moses Hacmon (51:32)

It's good, it's moving, it's emotional. Inspiring. Alaska Craves podcast. I haven't seen this in a while. I think he just did Club Crave.

Trisha Paytas (51:39)

I think he just did one.

Moses Hacmon (51:41)

I haven't seen him in a while.

Trisha Paytas (51:43)

I think he just did one.

Moses Hacmon (51:44)

Go watch it.

Trisha Paytas (51:45)

Shout out.

Moses Hacmon (51:45)

Shout out. Oscar Crave and Trish Crave and Drag Crave. I love Drag Crave. They just posted new pictures of Jinx Monster Day and she looked so pretty.

Trisha Paytas (51:52)

And I was like, I love a Crave.

Moses Hacmon (51:53)

I love a Crave. Too. They're really on it. They find everything.

Trisha Paytas (51:57)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (51:58)

Everyone.

Trisha Paytas (51:58)

Yeah. And I love. I think it looks impressive that we have craves too. Like, people get so, like, oh, wow. Yeah, yeah.

Moses Hacmon (52:05)

There's a pop Cream and a Trish Crave. And an Oscar crave. I love it so much.

Trisha Paytas (52:08)

They get good engagement too. Like, better than us.

Moses Hacmon (52:11)

No, I even. I find out stuff, I'm like, wow. Hey, Trish Crave. Trish has reportedly done this, and I was like, wow. Knowing everything, there is someone that always. There's not a crave. There is someone on TikTok that always has insight about me before I do. And he's like, is this true? I'm like, I don't know. I always, like, reach out to my agents. Like, is this true? He's like, I heard this. I was like, damn. I hope. I hope you're right. We love it. Oh, my God. You know that guy from Only Murders? God, I don't know his name. He was in Chippendales. Yeah, he's ripped. You probably know. I don't know his name. He's in a new Broadway show. Not a new Broadway show. He's in a Broadway show with Jinx Monsoon right now called oh, Mary. Oh, he plays Lincoln and Jinx plays Mary Todd Lincoln. And we were watching Only Murders and I was like, God, that guy's everywhere now. He's on Broadway with her.

Oscar (52:57)

Yeah. He had all the Christmas sweaters.

Moses Hacmon (52:59)

Why was he wearing Christmas sweaters every scene?

Oscar (53:01)

That was the thing. I think he was like. It was kind of a YouTuber that was doing Christmas.

Moses Hacmon (53:05)

He was a YouTuber.

Oscar (53:06)

He was doing, like, Christmas content year round.

Moses Hacmon (53:08)

I love that actor. I wish I knew his name.

Trisha Paytas (53:10)

I'm trying to find it.

Moses Hacmon (53:11)

He was in Chippendales. He was the lead in Chippendales in the TV show.

Trisha Paytas (53:14)

Yeah.

Oscar (53:14)

That was really good.

Moses Hacmon (53:15)

He was so good in that one. God, he's been in a lot of stuff and I like. But he's on Broadway. And I'm like, I'm gonna go see it. I think it's a limited time. All of them in there. I think the guy from Ugly Betty's in it too.

Trisha Paytas (53:26)

Oh, it's Kamal Nunjani.

Moses Hacmon (53:28)

Yes. Love him.

Trisha Paytas (53:28)

Oh, word.

Moses Hacmon (53:30)

Yeah, he's on Broadway right now with Jinx. Jinx finished Pirates and then went six days later right into oh, Mary. And I was like, worked. Living my dream life. How does it feel to live my dream?

Trisha Paytas (53:38)

I would love a Trisha Jinx crossover. Jinx just did Z way and was so funny.

Moses Hacmon (53:43)

The Best. Yeah, I did actually, my tavern video last night. I used a JK drawing. Was it pun? Is that a pun? Yeah. I used it in my TikTok and no one got it. I was like, okay, Jinx. By Z way. I was like, yeah. Love it. I love. She's so funny. I just think, like, the interview was great. She was great. She's naturally funny. I'm gonna be naturally just, like, funny about everything and not offensive. You know, it is hard. We watch some stuff from, like, Mike and Molly. I'm like, God, it is kind of hard to be funny sometimes without being offensive. You know, a little. Not racism, obviously, but, like, you know, or transism or transphobic.

Trisha Paytas (54:18)

But.

Moses Hacmon (54:21)

What'S it? Homophobic. You don't have to be all that. But, you know, sometimes it's funny to be a little offensive.

Trisha Paytas (54:26)

Yeah. Even like, I've been. My tick tock is also. It's a lot of us and a lot of Caleb, so. And like, so many Caleb clips that even he is, like, he gets away with so much, but.

Moses Hacmon (54:38)

Right.

Trisha Paytas (54:38)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (54:39)

Because he's funny.

Trisha Paytas (54:40)

Yeah. Yeah. And when. Even when he was on Zway, like, he was making jokes about why white people in slavery and stuff, but, like, he just gets away on Z way.

Moses Hacmon (54:47)

And start making those jokes. I don't think.

Trisha Paytas (54:48)

Okay, that's literally because I was like, I would love a Trisha Zway crossover. I could not. You could not go on Zway. I feel like Zwe could be here because it would. It wouldn't be like, the character, you know, But I love.

Moses Hacmon (54:59)

Zwe met her at the SNL party. Like, love her show. They asked me to be on it this year. They followed up a couple times. I would just. I'm so scared. Yeah, I would.

Trisha Paytas (55:07)

You would not know what to do.

Moses Hacmon (55:08)

I wouldn't know what to do. So I wouldn't be funny.

Trisha Paytas (55:10)

You'd be just nervous.

Moses Hacmon (55:11)

I would be nervous. I would be so nervous. Sweating. I know people go on there. They handle it really well. Me can never.

Trisha Paytas (55:19)

Even. Never know what to say. You would need almost someone in your ear.

Moses Hacmon (55:23)

Yeah. Because like you said, there are jokes. Like, Kayla probably makes really funny jokes. And it's like, you can be funny.

Trisha Paytas (55:28)

Yes.

Moses Hacmon (55:28)

I'm just not funny. But especially with that. Like, there's just no. Like, I wouldn't even know how. I wouldn't want to. So I don't need to, like, make any jokes about that in general. My trolling days were never about that.

Trisha Paytas (55:40)

That.

Moses Hacmon (55:40)

Because that's weird to me. But kudos to people who can who can do it?

Trisha Paytas (55:45)

Yeah. I love a Z Way interview. Like, Renee Rap and Z Way were so funny as well too. Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (55:50)

But it's not on Showtime anymore. Is it just on?

Trisha Paytas (55:51)

I think it's just on her channel. That's why I watch it. Yeah, but she's producing on her own work.

Moses Hacmon (55:56)

Absolutely. Because, like, you know, actually, TV in general is just not where it's at anywhere. Right. Everyone's getting canceled. Colbert, all this stuff like that. And I'm just like, I don't think TV's where it's at. Who else was getting canceled? Oh, Howard's turn got canceled this morning.

Oscar (56:06)

What?

Moses Hacmon (56:07)

Yep. They canceled him. Serious. After 20 years or something? His hundred million dollar contract as probably.

Oscar (56:12)

Was more than 20. Probably more than 20 years.

Moses Hacmon (56:15)

Serious. No, seriously, been around probably 20 years. I mean, him on the radio, right? 40, maybe years. He was with NBC and stuff like that.

Oscar (56:23)

Wow.

Moses Hacmon (56:26)

Yeah. He's interesting because I saw it was like Howard Stern, obviously, he was so problematic, but he's changed a lot. Like, he's pretty. Is woke a good word to use? I don't know. Do people like the word woke? He's woke. Okay.

Trisha Paytas (56:37)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (56:38)

Is that insulting or is that good?

Trisha Paytas (56:39)

I think people like better. Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (56:41)

To be woke.

Trisha Paytas (56:42)

Yeah. It depends who you asked, I guess.

Moses Hacmon (56:45)

Because he's woke now, he's kind of like, you know, and he was not always that. So everyone's like, good. I'm glad he got canceled because he was like, you know, we're so awful to women. Can you make up for it if you've done like 20 years of damage and all of a sudden in the past 20 years, you're woke?

Trisha Paytas (56:56)

I think so. I mean, some people, A lot of people disagree, but I. I'm always about, like, if you exclude people who want to change, then, like, you can't progress as a society. That's how I feel. You know what I mean? There's just like, if you permanently exclude and leave people out who, like, fundamentally now agree with something, you know, then you're just gonna keep dwindling the numbers down to like, we'll never be able to progress as a society because you keep excluding people who then will just go completely opposite to where they can be, you know, welcomes, you know, hence the, like, the grifter pipeline. So people who just, like, promote beliefs they don't believe in just because it's profitable.

Moses Hacmon (57:38)

Oh, I never heard that.

Trisha Paytas (57:39)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (57:40)

Who's a grifter?

Trisha Paytas (57:41)

I mean, I don't want a name.

Moses Hacmon (57:45)

That person's a grifter. What does that mean?

Trisha Paytas (57:47)

It's like.

Moses Hacmon (57:47)

It's not like you're asking for money.

Trisha Paytas (57:49)

It's. Yeah, I mean, it's you going like a lot of people, for example, I'll put a general. They will go to like, Kick or something because it's like. Like they got excluded from, like, Twitch or whatever because they've offended someone or like, offended a group of people, if you will. But then Kick is a little lawless. You can kind of say whatever.

Moses Hacmon (58:06)

But then do they go woke on Kick or they go crazy? Oh, they go extreme. They're like, well, doubling down now.

Trisha Paytas (58:12)

Yes.

Moses Hacmon (58:13)

Oh, got it.

Oscar (58:13)

Like, yeah. So it is this form of trolling for money.

Trisha Paytas (58:16)

Yeah.

Oscar (58:17)

Or rage baiting for money.

Moses Hacmon (58:18)

Okay, I know. I just. I. I'm with you. But then I feel like there are like, Howard's time. Like, I don't know. You never really apologize to any of these women.

Trisha Paytas (58:26)

I think you do have to. Like, it's like the accountability, like, you know, acknowledging stuff for sure. But like, that process and it depends on like, the groups that were offended and stuff too. Like, I can't say. I can't speak for women who are offended. Be like, yeah, like, you should forgive them. You know what I mean?

Moses Hacmon (58:43)

Right.

Trisha Paytas (58:44)

I just like, in general, I.

Oscar (58:46)

Me personally, you know, also, I don't think he necessarily. I don't know how to explain. Changed. He's more. Just chose a political stance.

Moses Hacmon (58:55)

Right. Kind of like, we talked about that too with like, Jimmy Kimmel. I was like, his man show was so, like, misogynistic. And I was like, I love how he's just like, not that now, but also. Did he ever talk about why he did that? Do you mean, like, you could just say, like, it's a different time. But his was like, pretty gross.

Trisha Paytas (59:08)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (59:09)

Like the juggies and stuff like that. I was kind of like, I don't know.

Trisha Paytas (59:13)

Or even you see with like, old interviews with like. I mean, you mentioned the Lindsay Lohan one where, you know, they were just like so aggressive about her in rehab. And then I saw there was like interviews with like, Miley Cyrus where they were talking about, like, her being a virgin and stuff, you know, so.

Moses Hacmon (59:27)

Yeah, that's weird.

Oscar (59:29)

He's not real. He just chose a party. He's like, okay, I support Democratic Party. And that's all he did. I don't think he really. Oh necessarily like. Or respects women differently or respect. You know what I mean? I don't think necessarily. It's just my.

Moses Hacmon (59:43)

It's also just old and like, I always say about old people, I think they're just, like, don't really know sometimes what life is about.

Trisha Paytas (59:50)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (59:50)

You know?

Trisha Paytas (59:51)

Yeah. But you. I was thinking of you. And similar to your point about, like, traditional media and stuff, because Jeanette McCurdy, her show, her memoir, got picked up for a series or is in production to get picked up for a series from Apple TV based off I'm Glad My Mom Died. But it was reported that her and the showrunner just had a disagreement over creative differences and he exited the project.

Moses Hacmon (60:19)

And he's famous, right? I recognize his name.

Trisha Paytas (60:21)

Yes. Jason Reitman. I guess I don't know him personally, but he's a pretty critically acclaimed, like, director.

Moses Hacmon (60:27)

Yes.

Trisha Paytas (60:28)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (60:29)

And Rush Hour or something.

Trisha Paytas (60:31)

Oh, that kind of makes sense. And Jennifer Aniston is also attached to star in this too, but. And they. I think Apple is reportedly giving them, like, two weeks to replace them with another high profile.

Moses Hacmon (60:42)

Two weeks?

Trisha Paytas (60:43)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (60:43)

Geez.

Trisha Paytas (60:44)

Another, like. Because Jennifer Aniston's, like, availability is small.

Moses Hacmon (60:47)

Oh, I see. I see.

Trisha Paytas (60:48)

And they want, like, the name of, like, a good director and showrunner to be attached to it, but they apparently reportedly the creative differences were over. Like, he wanted it to be more comedic, and Jeanette wanted it to be more like. Like, serious.

Moses Hacmon (61:02)

Oh, that's a big creative difference.

Trisha Paytas (61:06)

The book, I mean, there are, like, comedic aspects to it, but it is a very traumatic book, and it's her story. Like, how can you tell the girl that, like, wrote it, you know?

Moses Hacmon (61:17)

Oh, no. If I memor get turned into a TV show, there's no way I'm gonna hire a straight man to direct it.

Trisha Paytas (61:21)

I feel like you're right.

Moses Hacmon (61:23)

What? What do you mean? You think you get this? You don't get it. Because like you said, even if there's funny aspects, straight men will take it the wrong way completely. You know what I mean? They'll just, like, they will miss the mark of what's funny about it. They just. Yeah, yeah. I think you read that book and thought it was like, this is comedy, Mike and Molly style with, like, a laugh track.

Trisha Paytas (61:37)

I know. I can't imagine that. I guess because her mom is so, like, extreme in the book. I mean, in her. That was her real life, you know, her mom is, like, very extreme and almost feels like a caricature of, like, a stage mom who doesn't know how to, like, you know?

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Trisha Paytas (63:24)

So that's the only thing I can think of that maybe you're trying to lean into that. But obviously that's like real trauma for Jeanette and I feel like it's her story.

Moses Hacmon (63:30)

Yeah, yeah.

Trisha Paytas (63:31)

Her book was like such a huge, like, bestseller. It was like the bestseller for weeks. And it resonated with so many people. Like, you gotta like, listen to her, you know.

Moses Hacmon (63:40)

So when did this all happen?

Trisha Paytas (63:41)

This. I mean, it was just over the past few days this reporting came out.

Moses Hacmon (63:45)

So do you think they'll find somebody?

Trisha Paytas (63:47)

I think the. I think the fact that Jennifer Aniston, the fact that Janette McC's book was so successful and it's also like Apple TV that they probably will because the source material was so popular.

Moses Hacmon (64:04)

Yeah, Greta Gerwig, get in it.

Trisha Paytas (64:06)

Oh, she's doing Narnia right now. But I would love.

Moses Hacmon (64:12)

No one needs another Narnia right now. Like the Crot Knuckles Narnia. That one. Isn't that so old?

Trisha Paytas (64:19)

They're rebooting it for Netflix.

Moses Hacmon (64:22)

Okay. Did you ever see. There was a movie that parodied Chronicles of Narnia and Jennifer Coolidge was like the White Witch. Is there a white witch?

Trisha Paytas (64:31)

Yeah, it is the White.

Moses Hacmon (64:32)

Okay. I know. I haven't really seen it, so I'm just kind of like, I don't really know, but. And it was. It was. Oh, my God. It was like a scary. It was like those scary movies, but it wasn't a scary movie. But it was like.

Trisha Paytas (64:43)

I know those type of. Like, the vampires suck. The Twilight one. Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (64:47)

Did they just make a bunch of parody movies?

Trisha Paytas (64:48)

Yeah, that was, like, the Thing in the early 2000s, so.

Moses Hacmon (64:52)

And that's all I know of Chronicles and Narnia. And they just go through a closet and they go to Narnia.

Trisha Paytas (64:55)

Yeah. I only saw the first one. That sounds about right. Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (64:58)

You don't like them?

Trisha Paytas (64:59)

It didn't, like, stick with me that much. Yeah. And I think I try to read the books, too, like, as a kid. I don't think I ever really got into it.

Moses Hacmon (65:07)

Yeah. I think they were trying to, like, write off of, like, Harry Potter, like, fantasy and make it happen.

Trisha Paytas (65:11)

Yeah. I think. I mean, maybe Greta Gerwig would turn it. Will turn it out. But you're right. I can see her doing a little this. Oh, yeah. And Margot Robbie's one of the producers on this as well, and they're like BFFs. Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (65:22)

Maybe Margo should have direct it. What's she doing?

Trisha Paytas (65:25)

I think she's producing. She's doing a lot. She's doing that Wuthering Heights. Or was it Wuthering that? Yeah, Wuthering Heights with Jacob Elordi producing the Samus. But might as well just also.

Moses Hacmon (65:35)

But if you're just producing, you could do it from your phone. Right.

Trisha Paytas (65:37)

Honestly. Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (65:38)

I wonder how, you know, like, she could direct. That'd be so good.

Trisha Paytas (65:42)

Yeah. I hope I. I have faith that they'll turn it out. Like, another big name will step up.

Moses Hacmon (65:47)

I would love to direct it.

Trisha Paytas (65:48)

Throw your name in the hat.

Moses Hacmon (65:49)

Why not?

Trisha Paytas (65:50)

Yeah, you get. I feel like you would get her. I get her.

Moses Hacmon (65:53)

And it's like, I don't even know anything about Janema Hardy. I just read her book, and I was, like, obsessed with her and her story and the way she told it. And I was just like, this was my favorite book. Anytime we talk about my book, I'm like, I want Janema Cardi. Even though, like, obviously our lives are very different, but, like, the way it was written, like, her tone and you could hear her, like, I just, like, loved all of it. The realness of it. Like you said, there was, like, little comedy aspects of it. Like, I get it. And that's why I think I'd Be a great person to direct this, because I'm not, like, a super fan, but I super love her and her writing.

Trisha Paytas (66:19)

And her book and you've directed yourself plenty of times.

Moses Hacmon (66:22)

That is so true. I do tend to take over when I direct. Just call me Blake Lively. She should direct it. She's down to direct.

Oscar (66:31)

And I demand. I demand to see the dailies.

Moses Hacmon (66:33)

What does that mean? I don't know what that means.

Trisha Paytas (66:36)

That's some. It ends with us lore.

Moses Hacmon (66:39)

Okay. Lament the dailies.

Trisha Paytas (66:42)

Read the dailies.

Moses Hacmon (66:43)

Read the dailies. Like the paper. Okay. I don't know where we're going with.

Oscar (66:49)

It, but that's how the drama started.

Moses Hacmon (66:53)

We'll co direct together, you and Blake. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (66:57)

Okay.

Moses Hacmon (66:57)

Right. We're okay with her now?

Trisha Paytas (66:59)

I don't know.

Moses Hacmon (67:00)

I think we were over it all together.

Trisha Paytas (67:02)

I feel like you and Jeanette would work well, though. Why not?

Moses Hacmon (67:04)

Absolutely.

Trisha Paytas (67:05)

And Jennifer Aniston, you already worked with her once.

Moses Hacmon (67:08)

She was so nice. I always talk about the story. I love that, you know. Oh, my God. And the guy that wrote that movie was in that one we watched with Danny McBride. He's bound and down. He was in season four. He was like, the main bad guy. And I. I always want to tell Moses, but I don't want to, like, annoy him. But I was like, oh, that's the guy who wrote Wonderlust. He was directing me in that scene. Ken Marino is his name. Don't know where he's at now, but he was a big part of season four of Eastbound and Down.

Trisha Paytas (67:29)

Are you easy to direct on these sets?

Moses Hacmon (67:31)

Absolutely. Tell me. Actually, I love telling, like, I will say, tell me exactly what you want me to do.

Trisha Paytas (67:35)

Oh, wow.

Moses Hacmon (67:35)

Yeah. I do not make any creative. I can make creative choices, but. But I love. I get along with directors really well.

Trisha Paytas (67:41)

Oh, wow. Yeah. I mean, you and Andy have worked together.

Moses Hacmon (67:43)

For me and Andy, I worked with a very big director this year who we just. We clicked right away.

Trisha Paytas (67:48)

I think his creative minds just get you. Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (67:51)

He was, like, perfect. Wonderful. And I was like, great. So I. I'm really good to work with. Yes. And. Yeah. Andrew Valentine. Yes. I. Yeah, I let a director have. I guess I got a big set. Like, if it's like a big director. Yeah. I'm not gonna give my input on my own sets. I do give them.

Trisha Paytas (68:06)

Oh, t. Okay. Okay. Queen who knows her place. Love to see it.

Moses Hacmon (68:11)

Exactly. If Justin Baldoni is telling me, just, okay, whatever. You know, you seem to have more experience in this than me. You know, also, when you pay for the stuff. You can say however you want. And then the director is just like, whatever you want, you're paying for this. But if someone else is paying for the shoot in the production, then I try to be respectful.

Trisha Paytas (68:28)

But can you give good direction?

Moses Hacmon (68:31)

Oh, yeah. I've directed Moses, remember I directed.

Trisha Paytas (68:35)

I'm a trickster.

Moses Hacmon (68:38)

In the McGriddle. The Bridgerton. Because my director had never seen Bridgerton, which I was like, what? He got married in France. I'm like, what do you mean you haven't seen Bridgerton? Like, he's that person. But yes, he didn't know the story of Bridgerton, so he thought, like, the Queen was supposed to be happy to see me when I was Penelope going to the circle. He's like, oh, the Queen's excited to see her and Moses is excited. I'm like, no. At first he's pissed. He's like, what are you doing? Because I'm about to expose that I am Lady Whistledown. So I'm like, he should be more pissed and so should the Queen. So I had to go give direction. That was my Blake Lively moment. Because he was telling him to smile. I'm like, no, actually don't. You're pissed. So, yeah, you know, it was like.

Oscar (69:09)

You'Re pissed, but you're also excited to see me. Yeah, I do.

Moses Hacmon (69:15)

I do give very good details about how to do it. So, yeah, I think I'm. I think I'm both. When I do Tiktoks with Malibu, I give directions sometimes, although she is a natural. But sometimes I'll give a little. A little direction. But I hope. I hope it goes off. I hope it happens.

Trisha Paytas (69:29)

I know, me too. I'm not. I'm never usually seated for an Apple TV program, but for you, just talking about Chief of War, which is awesome.

Moses Hacmon (69:37)

Oh yeah, love that one. Is that Apple tv?

Oscar (69:39)

They've been. I mean, they've been good.

Moses Hacmon (69:42)

What do you watch on Apple tv?

Oscar (69:44)

Well, we had Severance, we had the studio and Chief of War. Those are. And Severance is probably one of the best shows of this year.

Moses Hacmon (69:51)

It's the most. Not. I mean, nominated. Right.

Trisha Paytas (69:53)

Who, which one?

Moses Hacmon (69:54)

Severance. Or am I just being.

Trisha Paytas (69:55)

Yeah, I think so, actually.

Moses Hacmon (69:56)

Oh, you didn't watch it?

Trisha Paytas (69:57)

I. I don't watch. Darian loves an Apple TV program. He love Studio. He keeps. He's seen the studio with like 3 different. He's seen it like 3 times. Cuz he keeps converting people. But I'm like 10 toes down. Like I Studio.

Moses Hacmon (70:08)

Have you tried? I really did try. I tried four episodes. I was like, nope, nope, nope, nope.

Trisha Paytas (70:11)

Out of. Just, like, me being stubborn. I'm not watching. Giving into the studio.

Moses Hacmon (70:16)

But it's not. It's just not good. I did. Because you liked it. Back when I was listening to David's podcast, he said the studio. Oh, my God. He's like, I should have written this. This is the show. I. I'm glad everyone really likes this show. And I watched. I was like, not my thing at all. I really. You know what? I love Seth Rogen as a person. I just don't know if I like his movies. We tried to watch Pineapple Express, and I mean, that might be the worst movie I've ever seen my entire tea.

Trisha Paytas (70:36)

I think Seth Rogen produces the boys, and I do like the boys. No way.

Moses Hacmon (70:41)

But not meant for me. It's like a David Dobrik vlog. Not the target audience is me for Seth Rogen. But he seems nice.

Oscar (70:46)

No, Seth Rogen needed to be stoned and 20 years ago.

Trisha Paytas (70:50)

Oh, but you love him. You love the studio.

Oscar (70:52)

Yeah, the studio was good.

Moses Hacmon (70:53)

I don't.

Oscar (70:54)

Yeah. But I. Pineapple Express. Many of the things he does is more like on the stone.

Moses Hacmon (70:59)

I think the studio might be that too, though. Stoned in 20 years ago. Because I don't really.

Oscar (71:02)

Because they talk so much. Like, it's fast paced, lots of dialogue.

Moses Hacmon (71:05)

You don't think stoners can catch up to it? They don't. They do not. First of all, I did understand what you just said now, and that is the opposite of what I got. I thought it was so slow that one episode was them just, like, walking around a house talking for the full hour, and there was no cuts, no anything. And I was like, this is awful.

Oscar (71:22)

Because that whole show was about doing a show in one. One shot.

Moses Hacmon (71:28)

One shot. There was no cuts.

Oscar (71:29)

So this movie was one shot, and the show was one shot about the movie. So I think they were awful. It was really good.

Moses Hacmon (71:35)

I tapped out. It was horrible. I think they thought they were doing something. Wow. Watches have no cuts.

Trisha Paytas (71:40)

And I was like, right.

Oscar (71:41)

And it is, in a way, hard, and.

Moses Hacmon (71:43)

But no one gets that unless you, like, are in the industry. Like, no one understands. Like, wow, one take.

Oscar (71:49)

Yeah. And maybe they got a bit too much into their own, you know, in their own world.

Moses Hacmon (71:53)

No one cares about stuff like that. I think they did that in Boogie Nights before the studio. Boogie Nights was, like, the longest one take. It was like 12 minutes for the intro. And I was like, wow, it's such a big deal. But I'm like, is it. I mean, if you're like a film nerd, okay. But I don't think anybody really.

Oscar (72:05)

Yeah, but the studio is about the studio for people that like the business in the studio. It's kind of like hacks from a different point of view. Like different different.

Moses Hacmon (72:13)

Nothing like hack.

Oscar (72:14)

Like, it's like a different.

Moses Hacmon (72:17)

So sorry.

Oscar (72:17)

To the creators, the opposite. Right. It's like the yin and yang. But it's the same but opposite. Because like, over there, it's like a woman and her world here, it's like those guys in their world.

Moses Hacmon (72:26)

That's crazy. There's comedy and hacks. There's openness, diversity, queerness, hot people, old people. There's none of that in the studio. There's none of that happening except for old people. That's like, Martin Scorsese was in it and they were like, oh, it's a barn. Scorsese. The biggest came. It's like an only murder. It's like, wow, we got Ron Howard. He's our biggest celebrity. That's what they said was like the joke. I was like, is he the biggest? I mean, I love him. Would love to be in a movie with him. But I don't know if that's the biggest and same Martin Scorsese. I'm like, Martin Scorsese. He's also on Tik Tok with his granddaughter. Like, I don't know.

Trisha Paytas (72:56)

This is Jenna Ortega. I'll be.

Moses Hacmon (72:58)

Guess what I'm saying. Let me see Jenna Ortega in there. Let me see Jonathan Bailey. He would. No, he'd be in hats, probably, but not. Let's see. Jake Shane in the studio. No, let's see Dylan Efron. That's what I want to see. Who was at the Los Altaristas Awards last night? Did you watch?

Trisha Paytas (73:16)

I seen the clip. What a. I'm still. It's almost too personal. Like, I can't actually watch the whole program because I'm like, we should have been there.

Moses Hacmon (73:24)

I think we just nominated. Presented something.

Trisha Paytas (73:27)

Presented at least. Why not?

Moses Hacmon (73:28)

I love a presenting award. For sure. Yeah. They were the it people there last night, though, was Meg Stalter and Dylan Efron. Renee Rap.

Trisha Paytas (73:37)

Yeah, everyone.

Moses Hacmon (73:38)

Gabby Robbie.

Trisha Paytas (73:40)

Yes.

Moses Hacmon (73:41)

Yeah, it was Benny.

Trisha Paytas (73:43)

Oh, yeah.

Moses Hacmon (73:44)

Huh. Damn.

Trisha Paytas (73:45)

Jamie Lee Curtis.

Moses Hacmon (73:48)

What was she even doing? I know, the red carpet. But did she present?

Trisha Paytas (73:51)

I know. I didn't see any clips of her.

Oscar (73:53)

Saw her in the audience.

Moses Hacmon (73:54)

That's it.

Trisha Paytas (73:54)

Maybe she lost.

Oscar (73:55)

Everyone from SNL was there.

Moses Hacmon (73:59)

Lisa Rinna was modeling looks that were famous that year. The yellow jacket from the substance. Andy Samberg, like, one. Which I was like, okay.

Trisha Paytas (74:06)

He won the Creatine Award. Creatine Award for best straight male, I believe.

Moses Hacmon (74:11)

Which I'm like, again, love Andy Sandberg, but he just hasn't been in anything in a while now. But I guess they did say it's from, like, 20 years ago, some of these awards.

Trisha Paytas (74:18)

Yeah. I mean, it was so one of the categories was like, Lisa. It was like all Lisa Simpson. Lisa arena as the Eminem.

Moses Hacmon (74:26)

Lisa Blackpink.

Trisha Paytas (74:27)

Yeah. So I don't think it was no Lisa.

Moses Hacmon (74:29)

Even one. It was. You remember?

Trisha Paytas (74:31)

It was like a. Yeah, Lisa one. You're right.

Moses Hacmon (74:34)

It's like a real person.

Trisha Paytas (74:35)

Yeah. What an interesting show.

Oscar (74:38)

I mean, it's one big private joke. The show, I think.

Trisha Paytas (74:40)

Yes.

Oscar (74:41)

A lot between all of them. Like, they all get it.

Trisha Paytas (74:44)

Yeah. And I think they said it was only. It was written strict only by gays and lesbian. I think mostly lesbians.

Moses Hacmon (74:50)

Right, right, right.

Trisha Paytas (74:51)

Yeah. So.

Moses Hacmon (74:52)

Oh, right. Renee Rap did say she's like, if you know Shego from Kim Possible.

Trisha Paytas (74:57)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (74:57)

You might be lesbian.

Trisha Paytas (74:58)

So hopefully next year. We got to start campaigning. We got to start campaigning early on. We need to send for your consideration. Like, flyers. I was going to say. Yeah, we get one, like, right by snl. So Bowen has to see it. Yeah, Bowen sees it every day.

Moses Hacmon (75:12)

I wonder if he's going to back. We haven't heard. I just feel he's gonna go do bigger things. That's how I feel.

Trisha Paytas (75:17)

I feel like I know he really is breaking out, but I want him.

Moses Hacmon (75:20)

Stay in SNL so I can maybe come back. I always have hope. Every week they'll ask me. Maybe they'll ask me back. Without him, there's no hope. I don't sadly get nominated for, like, a little SNL cameo.

Trisha Paytas (75:28)

What the hell? Where do they film Las Culturistas? Like, we really need to get a little bulb. Like a little billboard right outside. So, like, they look out the window and they're like, oh, Trisha.

Moses Hacmon (75:40)

Yeah, we love them. Them.

Trisha Paytas (75:41)

Yeah. We got to just start, like, really targeting our.

Moses Hacmon (75:44)

Get on it. How do we figure this out? We need to hire pr.

Trisha Paytas (75:46)

I'll get on it. Yeah. I have my PR degree. Do you agree? My focus, it's journalism, but my focus was pr. I thought I was going to be a publicist, but I need too much social anxiety to be a publicist.

Moses Hacmon (75:58)

Why are you publicizing this? Get on that. If you have a degree. I'm like, we're thinking about hiring someone here's. Oscar. Like that's my major. I was like, okay, okay, well we'll pay you get us some publicity.

Trisha Paytas (76:10)

Way too much social anxiety to be an actual publicist though. Because they really are. And they got to be able to like just go up to someone, not, not know them, but act like you do know them and just be able to go and do what?

Moses Hacmon (76:22)

What is that?

Trisha Paytas (76:23)

Just, you gotta just schmooze. You gotta, you're just constantly.

Moses Hacmon (76:25)

You don't know them. You have to pretend you know them.

Trisha Paytas (76:27)

Yeah, you gotta feel like you know, you're just an old friend that like, oh, they looking out for each other, you know, like, yeah, I'll help you. But then like, like it's a whole thing. The relationships, the, the studio tease. You know, it's like could have been in that.

Moses Hacmon (76:38)

Maybe you should watch that. Maybe you would love it. Actually you seem to love all of this, so that makes sense.

Oscar (76:44)

Well, the main thing is that they know you're not going to be pregnant next year, so.

Trisha Paytas (76:48)

True.

Moses Hacmon (76:48)

Right? That's why I made 5000 videos now. Cuz I really do think everyone thinks.

Trisha Paytas (76:52)

I'm just going to keep that mess.

Oscar (76:54)

But like this event was so close to the birth. So you know, people take that into consideration in general. So I think, think for next year everyone knows you're available.

Trisha Paytas (77:03)

Yeah, you should get a publicist to send out the news that your tubes are out.

Moses Hacmon (77:09)

You are the publicist. You have connections to all the outlets. You have a degree. Like I don't understand why you're not the publicist. That's crazy. I just found this out today. All right. Did you know that. Wait, did you know he had a public.

Trisha Paytas (77:23)

I. It's journal.

Oscar (77:26)

I always thought the journalism.

Trisha Paytas (77:27)

Yeah, yeah, it's like, I mean my school had like a generic journalism and then you had a focus. So we're like, you just focus like on some classes. So I took like four different PR classes but then I went to broadcast. So I don't know.

Moses Hacmon (77:43)

Did you make the right decision?

Trisha Paytas (77:46)

Yeah, I really couldn't be a publicist because you also have to like talk to people non stop every day. You're constantly emailing things out like that. No, but then you also are getting rejected all the time. Especially like you don't like rejection.

Moses Hacmon (77:56)

I feel like you don't care. I thought you didn't care about. I hate rejection.

Trisha Paytas (77:59)

But I have to be in the right mood. I don't know, it depends. It depends on if I'm sensitive that day or not. If I'm sensitive And I'm getting reject. Like, if I'm walking, say I'm rep. I feel like now everyone would talk to you, but say, like, in your can, like, in your canceled era, I'm your publicist. And we're at the freaking, you know, American Music Awards. And I'm like, hey, do you want to talk to Trisha Paytas? And they're like, well, and I'm going down the line, and I.

Moses Hacmon (78:22)

That feels real. I don't want to do this red car anymore. Get me off of it.

Trisha Paytas (78:26)

Okay, say I'm representing. Who's someone in the. In the. In the sphere. Oh, well, everyone will talk to Tana, so she's not even a good example either.

Moses Hacmon (78:37)

Who's canceling? No one's, really.

Trisha Paytas (78:40)

Okay. I say, Colleen's my client. Okay. And I'm walking her down. And everyone's passing. I'm like, damn, I'm like, a failure, you know? So.

Oscar (78:47)

Well, there's no one to say no to a client in the first place.

Moses Hacmon (78:53)

They're in a cancellation. I see. So you wouldn't want to.

Trisha Paytas (78:57)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (78:58)

Rejection for them, even if it's not you.

Trisha Paytas (78:59)

Yeah. It just. It would feel personal, you know?

Moses Hacmon (79:01)

I feel that.

Trisha Paytas (79:02)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (79:03)

That's why I don't ask people to come on. Because if they say no, I'm like, they hate me. Even if they cancel, if anything, I'm just like, no, they don't want to do it. So I'm definitely in my no guest era at the moment because I'm like, I don't. I don't want to be rejected.

Trisha Paytas (79:13)

Yeah, no, it makes sense because you're also, like, very anxious and sensitive, too, so it's a bad storm of emotions.

Moses Hacmon (79:20)

Yeah. Especially now. And also depressing. Right? Depress. Depression.

Trisha Paytas (79:23)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (79:24)

Depressive.

Trisha Paytas (79:25)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (79:26)

Depression right now.

Trisha Paytas (79:27)

Yeah. That's just normal. Yes, yes, yes.

Moses Hacmon (79:30)

Maybe not. How do you know the difference? How do you know if you're depressed or if it's just the hormones?

Oscar (79:35)

Well, when it happens right after birth.

Moses Hacmon (79:37)

Yeah, but how long after. How. How long do you have to be depressed after you gave birth?

Trisha Paytas (79:41)

I think you see, you're the one. That Instagram story, that little chart, and it sounded like you had, like, a year or two.

Moses Hacmon (79:46)

Right. I can't do that for myself. Like, just everyone knows I have two.

Oscar (79:49)

Years, and it's accumulative from three pregnancies.

Moses Hacmon (79:53)

Oh, my God. Six years in three years for pregnancy that I didn't get to recover.

Oscar (79:58)

But I've seen so many people talk about how long, like, it takes a couple of years to get back to yourself. Like, who before?

Moses Hacmon (80:05)

Oh, my God, that's scary.

Trisha Paytas (80:07)

But you're doing a good job.

Moses Hacmon (80:09)

Thanks.

Trisha Paytas (80:09)

Yeah, trying.

Moses Hacmon (80:11)

We had some fun, Some fun moments yesterday.

Trisha Paytas (80:14)

Yeah. And you got that labo right there. Come on. A reason to smile.

Moses Hacmon (80:19)

That is true. You know what? Something buying stuff does make you feel better.

Trisha Paytas (80:23)

Yeah. I love tree here and there. Why not a little boo Boo tree? Yeah. Or a Louis Vuitton treat.

Moses Hacmon (80:29)

I've got a couple of Louis Vuitton treats.

Oscar (80:31)

There's been a lot of stuff coming to the house. The designers are visiting us a lot.

Moses Hacmon (80:38)

I gotta start working again. I was like, that's why today I was like, anyone want to see Trishmas this year? Like, what are we doing? Just spending all the money. Yeah. Do you think I could do the four? Anyways, that's a whole other thing. I want to do the Forum.

Trisha Paytas (80:51)

Yeah, why not?

Moses Hacmon (80:52)

Yeah. Publicist. Get on that. Call them up. See how I do. Do you know people cancel their tours? Like, let's say I booked the Forum and only a thousand people out of 18, 000 tickets were sold.

Trisha Paytas (81:05)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (81:05)

You just say like, oh, I want to be with family. I'm canceling the show.

Trisha Paytas (81:08)

Yeah. I feel like it's happened a few times.

Moses Hacmon (81:10)

That happens to like Daylo. Remember when she cancels your to be close to family, it's like she just noticed tickets.

Trisha Paytas (81:15)

Yeah, I know.

Moses Hacmon (81:16)

Why don't they just be like, oh, I saw someone tick tock about this and it was so smart. Why don't they just say like, hey, it's not selling if you guys don't buy tickets, I gotta cancel it. And then people start buying tickets.

Trisha Paytas (81:25)

That's a good idea.

Moses Hacmon (81:26)

Like, that's what I would say.

Trisha Paytas (81:26)

I think just be trans. Yeah. If you're transparent, why not? Not like sometimes people feel too proud. Well, like, you know, JLo is such a long illustrious career. Probably is like embarrassing. Maybe she shouldn't be embarrassed. She's still JLo at the end of the day.

Moses Hacmon (81:40)

I'm lowering those tickets $20 coupons. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (81:44)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (81:44)

Our Greek was like that. I think we were only like 80% sold out. And I think like the day of it was like $10, $20 tickets. And I was reposting that. Yeah. Come for 20 bucks, you know, in those seats. So, okay, maybe Sophie. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (82:00)

Why not?

Moses Hacmon (82:00)

70,000 people. Yeah, I mean, 70,000 people watch this show.

Trisha Paytas (82:05)

True. But I guess it's all over the world.

Moses Hacmon (82:11)

It is crazy when you think about how many people watch this. But then it's like, like, yeah, it doesn't like translate. Like if I do, like if I do an event, like 500000 people aren't showing up.

Trisha Paytas (82:19)

I think it's. It's. Yeah, it's just so. Just dispersed. It's not like you're all. 500000 people are located in the Los Angeles area.

Oscar (82:28)

And also they watch it like you know people while they work, while they study. But to go out to a place and the time and resource to go to a show is a completely different thing. But I mean you just came back from us all to our 40, 40 cities. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (82:47)

For some perspective. Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (82:48)

Yeah. Oh, CCA sent an email like, oh, you want to get lunch? Talk about another tour? And I was like. After I just said no, I was like, wow, they want. Yeah, let's not risk it. Because like, yeah, you do one solar tour and then you go again. It's like no one comes.

Trisha Paytas (82:58)

It's like, yeah, you got to make them miss you a little bit.

Moses Hacmon (83:00)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (83:00)

And you gotta have some availability for all this. You had to pass while you were on tour, so.

Moses Hacmon (83:04)

Well, none of that. That coming.

Trisha Paytas (83:05)

You.

Moses Hacmon (83:06)

What do you mean?

Trisha Paytas (83:06)

You don't even.

Moses Hacmon (83:07)

I get an Emmy's invite or Lost Culterista's invite.

Trisha Paytas (83:10)

Well, you were pregnant for Lost Culturista, so that one's off the table. We'll see. We still got Tony's got war season just around the corner, so you gotta. You gotta chill. Yeah. We have just a few months to go until it's. You had to pass on so much stuff because the tour actually.

Moses Hacmon (83:23)

But that's the law of like attraction or whatever. Like it's like people only want you when you're busy.

Trisha Paytas (83:28)

Okay, then just start lying. Okay, so you're booked and busy.

Moses Hacmon (83:32)

Booked and busy. I'm going on.

Trisha Paytas (83:34)

We'll green screen you in different areas. I was like, I'm sorry. I'm on the set of a show in Prague today.

Moses Hacmon (83:39)

Yes, I. Cuz that's so true. Anytime I was gone, I swear it's like, do you want to do this TV show and do you want to go to this award show? I was like, what the hell? I'm. I'm. For the past 18 years of my life I've been available. And I was like, that is.

Oscar (83:50)

Yeah, but it's better to be the star of your show selling out the stadium than to be a guest on somebody else's show.

Moses Hacmon (83:55)

I'm not selling out stadiums, first of.

Oscar (83:57)

All, whatever size theaters, theater, whatever it is.

Moses Hacmon (84:01)

Stadiums wild. But I love it. Maybe that was a four accordion slip. Maybe I will be selling out stadiums and you didn't even know it Manifesting.

Oscar (84:07)

I think so.

Moses Hacmon (84:08)

Okay, that was me being nice to you. People think, I mean, I love you. I just can't hear you or see you. I do love you and I do think you're funny. I think you're funny. But his jokes on the podcast are very different than his jokes.

Trisha Paytas (84:22)

There's one last. I think it was. Was it last week, and I think Jimmy got it to be safe, but it was so funny. Did he. Did he keep it in the one where you left like the. The Irish clan. And we were like, oh, those. That. That white people clan. What?

Oscar (84:39)

Jimmy, I'm giving you a note now. Do not cut me, Jimmy.

Trisha Paytas (84:42)

Yeah, Jimmy is. He should also be a publicist. He's really good. I can tell him.

Moses Hacmon (84:46)

He can always censor me.

Trisha Paytas (84:47)

Especially with everything.

Moses Hacmon (84:48)

Jimmy can censor me always. Guess not. Moses. You can't censor though. He's like, don't cut me, please censor anything funny.

Trisha Paytas (84:55)

It was so funny that the white people clan you're talking about. It cracks me up like a Caitlin.

Moses Hacmon (85:03)

Get away with things. The things he says like. All right, you can take it.

Oscar (85:06)

That was correct English. It's just. You can use the word tribe or clan. It's a word.

Moses Hacmon (85:11)

Not have to cut out another 20 minutes of the show.

Trisha Paytas (85:16)

Oh, my God, that is too funny.

Moses Hacmon (85:18)

Oh, God. Did you bring that CVS bag in? Or is that us?

Trisha Paytas (85:21)

Oh, that's.

Oscar (85:22)

It's our cards.

Trisha Paytas (85:23)

Yeah, that's from Jimmy.

Moses Hacmon (85:24)

Oh, where's the popmart bag, Jimmy? That's so bougie. Cvs. Here's cvs. Thanks, Jimmy.

Trisha Paytas (85:32)

Did you see. Speaking of babies, no more for you. But the world's oldest baby was just born. Did you see that?

Moses Hacmon (85:42)

31.

Trisha Paytas (85:43)

Yeah. An embryo that was frozen in 1994 named Thaddeus as well, which I thought. Interesting name.

Moses Hacmon (85:51)

The embryo, the baby.

Trisha Paytas (85:53)

The babiest name name.

Moses Hacmon (85:55)

Oh, Thaddeus. Okay, I like it.

Trisha Paytas (85:56)

Yeah. Okay, so an old school name for an old soul.

Moses Hacmon (85:59)

Love that.

Trisha Paytas (85:59)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (86:00)

Okay, so I don't understand. How old are the parents? The parents froze the embryo in 1984.

Trisha Paytas (86:04)

Yeah, the. Actually let me. I have their names in here somewhere. They're now. Okay, so Linda Archer. It was her embryo that she froze in 1994 and she is now 62.

Moses Hacmon (86:16)

Whoa.

Trisha Paytas (86:17)

Yeah. She originally had four embryos created through IVF. IVF with her then husband. One of those embryos became a daughter who's now 30. So she had that child back when she was doing ivf and then the other three were frozen and have stayed frozen for more than three decades. And then after she got divorced and she realized she wasn't gonna have any more children herself, she explored embryo adoption is what they're calling it, which is an offshoot of IVF for the donor and recipient make a mutual decision as to who receives the embryos. And she worked with a Chris like a Christian. A faith based fertility. Fertility clinic that's on the. That's on a mission to reduce embryo stockpiles, which is. I never have even thought about that. So it's kind of interesting. Like just frozen embryos that aren't being used like from that are just like sitting there.

Moses Hacmon (87:17)

Why? What's it taking up?

Trisha Paytas (87:19)

I think just like you putting those to good use, I guess like embryos that are just never. If someone's like the, the person who owns the. Or who don't had those embryos, like they have to meet, make the mutual decision. Like Linda agreed that this particular couple would use her embryos that have been frozen for 30 years.

Moses Hacmon (87:41)

Oh, she is not the parent then. She's not. Not no 62 year old mom.

Trisha Paytas (87:45)

It's her embryos, but she is not the mom, if that makes sense.

Moses Hacmon (87:48)

Oh, so did she sell it or just give it.

Trisha Paytas (87:49)

It was through adoption is what they're calling embryo adoption. Which is interesting. I've never heard of this before, so.

Moses Hacmon (87:55)

That'S kind of weird to think about though. An embryo that's 31 years old.

Trisha Paytas (87:58)

I know. And then everyone was like damn. I think I would, I would rather. I love being a 90s kid. I loved being born in the 90s. There's no other generate like decade for me. Like I loved being a 90s kid. It was perfect. I love Beanie Babies. I love the cart 90s cartoons, love the early 2000s. I love not having social media for like my childhood, you know.

Moses Hacmon (88:18)

That is true. Okay, so It's a technically 90s baby, but do you think this baby is fine?

Trisha Paytas (88:25)

So far so good.

Moses Hacmon (88:26)

Really.

Trisha Paytas (88:27)

It is interesting.

Moses Hacmon (88:28)

That is so weird. I guess it's your definition of when's a baby a baby? Because like, I mean this was a. This has been a person, this has been a baby for 31 years.

Trisha Paytas (88:37)

Yeah, I guess so.

Moses Hacmon (88:37)

Right.

Trisha Paytas (88:38)

It is insane.

Moses Hacmon (88:39)

Like yeah, if they, if you believe in like a soul with you know, being in the baby from that stage.

Trisha Paytas (88:46)

Like and interesting too. Cuz it is like the couple is a Christian couple and they went through this through a faith based like a Christian Fertility Clinic. So they do obviously believe in that.

Moses Hacmon (88:57)

That's like when life starts.

Trisha Paytas (88:58)

Yeah. So it is very interesting. So maybe that's why they went with Thaddus. They were like, let's give them an old school name.

Moses Hacmon (89:05)

94 name.

Trisha Paytas (89:06)

I don't know any thus 90s name name.

Moses Hacmon (89:08)

Is it?

Trisha Paytas (89:08)

I don't know.

Moses Hacmon (89:09)

Okay. I don't know. I love it. Yeah. Life is life. But also. Okay. Yeah. I mean it's just an old baby, I guess.

Trisha Paytas (89:18)

Just an old baby.

Moses Hacmon (89:19)

That's crazy. That is so. That's freak. It kind of freaks me out a little bit thinking about like this, this, this person that was around since 1984.

Trisha Paytas (89:27)

Especially because like one of like that she froze. I mean she had four through for four embryos to do IVF. But then she used one and that, that, that person is now 30. So they're the same age. Technically.

Oscar (89:42)

I know someone that they had identical twins frozen and then they had one and 10 years later they had the second.

Trisha Paytas (89:50)

Wow.

Oscar (89:50)

So they're 10 years apart but they're identical.

Moses Hacmon (89:52)

You know that person and those twins are fine.

Oscar (89:56)

Yeah. I mean there's no issue with really.

Moses Hacmon (89:58)

I don't know. I'm just saying like. I mean I. I love, I love it. I think that's so cool. But I just am like, like I don't know. I mean if you're a baby for.

Oscar (90:05)

30 years, well, you're like the beginning of it some the major. There's no organ. Like I don't think there's any issue.

Moses Hacmon (90:13)

But you're a soul.

Trisha Paytas (90:14)

I guess you're technically, you're just.

Oscar (90:15)

That's because it's a faith B based. That's what they believe. They believe that.

Moses Hacmon (90:20)

But what did you believe that?

Oscar (90:22)

I believe everything is so that's what I'm saying.

Moses Hacmon (90:24)

You're like the number one consciousness person over there.

Oscar (90:27)

Right. So like. So for them they don't want to see anything go to waste.

Moses Hacmon (90:30)

Right. But you think everything has a conscious. So it's like this person's been conscious for 30 years.

Oscar (90:35)

Well, no, he was frozen in time. So I mean I think it is for water the worst thing to be is frozen. So it is something that is not ideal situation for anyone. You don't want to be frozen in time for that long because water wants to be the opposite. Our bodies are warm. That's what water wants to be in a warm space.

Moses Hacmon (90:55)

Now he's warm.

Trisha Paytas (90:56)

Yeah.

Oscar (90:56)

So they're doing a good thing by releasing it.

Moses Hacmon (90:59)

Right?

Oscar (91:00)

Releasing that, you know from.

Moses Hacmon (91:03)

Why is the worst Thing for water to be frozen because it can't flow. Really?

Oscar (91:07)

No, you're just. You're frozen in time.

Moses Hacmon (91:09)

Like, God, are you, like, triggered by our ice cubes?

Oscar (91:12)

Because I love ice cubes.

Moses Hacmon (91:13)

And they were all gone one day. We had. We had, like, literally 60 ice cubes. And I use them every day, and one day, they're all cleared out of our tray. And I was like, where did those go?

Oscar (91:23)

Out to the Go Garden.

Moses Hacmon (91:24)

And I was so mad. Like, my water only tastes good. And there would be like, three. He's like, there's three you can use. I'm like, where'd all our ice cubes go?

Oscar (91:30)

To the garden. And I throw them.

Moses Hacmon (91:33)

What did you. Why did you do that?

Oscar (91:37)

No, what I did over there, the ice, you know, after a while, it clumps into one big ice.

Moses Hacmon (91:41)

I chunk it up, though.

Oscar (91:42)

I go, no. Oh, my God. So I throw away that big chunk. And then you get fresh ice.

Moses Hacmon (91:47)

There was never fresh ice in there.

Oscar (91:49)

Now there is, but because she came right after. It takes a minute for that.

Moses Hacmon (91:53)

I was so, so annoying.

Trisha Paytas (91:56)

That is so funny.

Moses Hacmon (91:57)

Free the water. Every time I open up, tick tock. I see Mr. Beast wearing a Team Water shirt. Have you seen that?

Trisha Paytas (92:01)

Oh, because he was raising money. Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (92:04)

I love the shirt.

Oscar (92:04)

It's a new project they're doing. Him and Mark.

Moses Hacmon (92:08)

Mark Zuckerberg?

Oscar (92:09)

No. Oh, and is it mark? It's another YouTuber.

Moses Hacmon (92:13)

I do not know Mark.

Oscar (92:14)

But yeah, they're doing. They're trying to provide water to, like, 2 million people.

Moses Hacmon (92:17)

I mean, that's good.

Trisha Paytas (92:18)

Yeah. He's raising money for it.

Moses Hacmon (92:19)

Why don't you do that? Why don't you go join the them?

Oscar (92:21)

Maybe I will if I'm invited.

Trisha Paytas (92:23)

Team Water DM Feastables. Say you want to get. Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (92:26)

Tell them I support that. Like, I. Look, that's what I'm saying. Like, I think if you're, like, sometimes evil and you're sometimes good, like, we should cheer on, celebrate that. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Oscar (92:36)

We'll send him our eyes.

Moses Hacmon (92:38)

Where is it? Did you see? Keep it.

Oscar (92:41)

I put it in the planter outside.

Moses Hacmon (92:44)

Okay.

Trisha Paytas (92:46)

Well, Mr. Beast is also planning a real life Hunger Games with a million dollar prize.

Moses Hacmon (92:52)

What does that mean?

Oscar (92:55)

There is something behind it.

Moses Hacmon (92:56)

I know he is not. You're gonna have people kill, Die? Like, no.

Trisha Paytas (93:02)

He was on Good Morning America, I believe, and he said that his. What? The video he's playing right now is a real life Hunger Games. Like, Putting the Con, he said, minus the part where contestants have to kill Each other for.

Moses Hacmon (93:16)

Well, that's not the Hunger Games Games. That's not what it is.

Trisha Paytas (93:19)

He said, I've been sitting on this idea where it'd be fun to grab potentially 26 random people, put them on an island and not use real weapons. Maybe like a laser tag or something. Then the last remaining one wins a million dollars to recreate the Hunger Games in real life.

Moses Hacmon (93:34)

I thought that's what he's doing. Recreating her games in real life.

Trisha Paytas (93:37)

That's what he wants to do. Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (93:38)

What's the laser tag? Where'd that come?

Trisha Paytas (93:39)

Instead of like weapons, it'll be like water. Like laser gun. Instead of like, like a gun.

Moses Hacmon (93:46)

Which sounds lame, right?

Trisha Paytas (93:49)

Oh, the Today Show. Not Good Morning America, but pretty much. Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (93:52)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (93:53)

I'm just getting like, no factual corrections.

Moses Hacmon (93:55)

Yeah. I was like, what all. Whatever.

Trisha Paytas (93:58)

I. There is something. At first I was like, oh, that'd be like a fun thing to do. But then I'm like, there is something very odd about someone who sees these dystopian shows like Squid Games and like Hunger Games. And then it's like, oh, I want to do that. Like a show where rich people want to exploit poor people who are down on their luck and desperate for money.

Moses Hacmon (94:20)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (94:20)

And oppressed and being like, I want to do that.

Moses Hacmon (94:23)

Yeah. I don't like about Mr. Beast and stuff. It's like, just don't, don't humiliate people. Just give them the money. Like you can literally, if you're finding these people who are worthy and deserving of these opportunities, just give them the money and.

Trisha Paytas (94:33)

Yeah, right.

Moses Hacmon (94:35)

Almost.

Trisha Paytas (94:36)

Maybe if he did it like it was creators and the winner won for like a charity, like maybe then it wouldn't feel so weird. Like Beast Games feels weird because. Because it is like Squid Game and it's real people who need money.

Moses Hacmon (94:48)

Yeah. They're like literally gonna like, it's like, yeah, their life. I need this money to survive. And if they don't get it.

Trisha Paytas (94:55)

So it feels like really it makes. When I. When we watched it for Patreon Plus. But it just made me sad because I felt like these people were getting like exploit and like they were very devastated when they got eliminated of course because they like were. They had that shot of winning life changing amount of money. But if it's creators and it's charity, then it feels like, like maybe a little less like puppeteering or something.

Moses Hacmon (95:16)

I don't know. Not like real people.

Trisha Paytas (95:18)

Yeah. With the hide and seek one, when he did that, was that for charity?

Moses Hacmon (95:23)

Was the Squid Game.

Trisha Paytas (95:24)

The hide and seek.

Moses Hacmon (95:25)

Oh. With like row and stuff and like.

Trisha Paytas (95:26)

Logan and it must have been.

Moses Hacmon (95:28)

I'm sure they wouldn't have played for the money. Or maybe they just did it for fun.

Trisha Paytas (95:31)

Probably for charity, I would hope. Yeah. So maybe if he did. Yeah, if he did. Creators. And then the winner donated.

Moses Hacmon (95:37)

Where is this announced on today.

Trisha Paytas (95:39)

The Today show.

Moses Hacmon (95:42)

You did say that. Not gma. He was on there for himself.

Trisha Paytas (95:46)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (95:47)

Jimmy.

Trisha Paytas (95:47)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (95:48)

He doesn't seem like somebody who's out there doing publicity.

Trisha Paytas (95:50)

Weirdly. I know. I. He did.

Oscar (95:55)

He's been doing it since the problems they had. He's been trying to.

Trisha Paytas (95:58)

Yeah.

Oscar (95:59)

Do PR work.

Moses Hacmon (96:00)

He's just like not a good face of. You know what I mean? Like, it's like David too. There's just something a little off putting. It's like they should have someone else be the face of their brand. Brand.

Trisha Paytas (96:07)

Yeah. I think it's a. Maybe an ego thing at this point.

Oscar (96:09)

Like also he himself is the face of something that's something else. There's companies behind what he's doing.

Trisha Paytas (96:16)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (96:17)

Oh, really?

Oscar (96:17)

Like the money is coming from other places too.

Trisha Paytas (96:20)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (96:23)

I don't know. I don't like. I think that's lame. Me too. Right.

Trisha Paytas (96:26)

I guess we'll see how he ends up doing it.

Moses Hacmon (96:29)

And how many people is it? Like 12.

Trisha Paytas (96:31)

He said 26.

Moses Hacmon (96:32)

Oh.

Trisha Paytas (96:33)

So like literally. Yeah, I got it.

Moses Hacmon (96:34)

Got. I got it.

Oscar (96:35)

So it's just a glorified laser tag game basically.

Trisha Paytas (96:37)

Yeah. Like on an island having people fake kill each other.

Oscar (96:41)

At least do paintball or something.

Trisha Paytas (96:43)

That's what I was thinking too. Paintball is probably like visual and then hurts. Are you gonna like literally have it where they have to like find food and stuff like for it? Like there's that Survivor element too. I feel like that's where he's kind of going with it. But again, I think it very much depends on how he goes about it because. Yeah. Best Beast Games. It did really, really well. I really did not think people would be seated for Beast Games, but it actually did really well on the. For Amazon. But I still. To me it was just icky and like exploitative. So I guess we'll see how he does this Again.

Moses Hacmon (97:17)

It's a whole different genre of people that like. Like he has a big fan base. It's like one of those things that you can't stop. So.

Trisha Paytas (97:22)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (97:23)

That's why I saw the team water.

Trisha Paytas (97:24)

Remember when I was volunteering you? He was like, I'm. Any creator should want to work on a video.

Moses Hacmon (97:28)

Yeah. Is this it.

Trisha Paytas (97:30)

I don't think it's this because he was asking for a lot of people.

Moses Hacmon (97:33)

You did that. Mention me and I said I would do it. Yeah, do it. I volunteer to.

Trisha Paytas (97:36)

You back.

Moses Hacmon (97:37)

I was like, we'll go on. We'll be like, the last call.

Trisha Paytas (97:40)

Teresa, I would love for journalism. For journalism. I would love to collab. Yeah. I want to be, like, in the weeds and see, he gets, like, really liked people. Like Jaden Animations is beloved and, like, you know, Pokimane Valkyrie.

Moses Hacmon (97:55)

He gets, like, really, you know, cool girls.

Trisha Paytas (97:57)

Yeah, he gets all the cool people.

Moses Hacmon (97:58)

So we're ready. We're ready. Yeah, we'll do it. That'd be fun. I would do it, probably.

Trisha Paytas (98:03)

Yeah. And Moses loves Feastables, so come on.

Moses Hacmon (98:05)

Oh, my God. Imagine Moses in a Mr. Beast video.

Trisha Paytas (98:08)

He's in the next, like, Feastables PR.

Moses Hacmon (98:10)

Package wearing Team Water shirts. I love it. I'm here for it. Look, if you can do some good things, not the exploitation of people who need.

Trisha Paytas (98:19)

Yeah. The charity, the, you know, the random acts of humanitarian.

Moses Hacmon (98:25)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (98:26)

Humanitarianism.

Moses Hacmon (98:27)

Always good you're trying. Because I feel like that's where, like, David doesn't really redeem himself, is like, he doesn't do anything philanthropic to, like, counter his evilness.

Trisha Paytas (98:34)

You're right.

Moses Hacmon (98:35)

You know.

Trisha Paytas (98:35)

Yeah. Because even when he gives away a car and stuff, it's not.

Moses Hacmon (98:37)

It's like, to his friend.

Trisha Paytas (98:38)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (98:38)

It's like to Heath, who is also.

Trisha Paytas (98:41)

Yeah. Giving a rich person.

Moses Hacmon (98:43)

Yeah. I got, like, something from Mr. Beeson. Like, these are all rich people that are your friends. So I think he needs. Yeah, yeah. Gotta balance it.

Trisha Paytas (98:53)

Shout out Jimmy Donaldson.

Moses Hacmon (98:57)

That's another Jimmy. We know. We know. Two jimmies Now. Why do people not go by the name Jimmy and not Jim or James?

Trisha Paytas (99:04)

What did Darian think? Oh, Darian thought, like, Jimmy. Our Jimmy Wetzel. His name was short for Jimothy first. I don't know where Darian came out with Jimothy. I actually kind of like Jim.

Moses Hacmon (99:16)

I love Jim. That's better than, like, a James. James Charles.

Trisha Paytas (99:21)

Charles Dickinson. Yeah. But not. He's not a Jimmy, at least.

Moses Hacmon (99:25)

Right. But Jim, Remember, like. Oh, Jim's. Oh, you weren't here for that episode. But I was like, no one likes you, Jim.

Trisha Paytas (99:29)

Yeah. Even Cali were.

Moses Hacmon (99:30)

Yeah. Going on anyone? Jim, James, Jimmy.

Trisha Paytas (99:35)

James Charles Dickinson is quite a name.

Moses Hacmon (99:38)

That is. That's his real name.

Trisha Paytas (99:39)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (99:41)

That is weird. I mean, cute.

Trisha Paytas (99:43)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (99:43)

His middle name is Charles.

Trisha Paytas (99:44)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (99:45)

Yeah. That's kind of cute, I guess. Like Charles Dickinson.

Trisha Paytas (99:47)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (99:47)

What is an author, isn't it?

Trisha Paytas (99:50)

Or Emily Dickinson.

Moses Hacmon (99:51)

Oh, right. Who's that?

Trisha Paytas (99:52)

Which one is she?

Moses Hacmon (99:53)

What does she do? Emily Dickinson. She's like a sad one, right?

Trisha Paytas (99:56)

Yes.

Moses Hacmon (99:56)

Like Sylvia Plath.

Trisha Paytas (99:58)

I don't think she's that sad, but yeah.

Moses Hacmon (100:01)

I love our author talk.

Trisha Paytas (100:03)

Just as no author now that you're an author, like we should be talking about book.

Moses Hacmon (100:08)

Self published author.

Trisha Paytas (100:09)

That's so true. On Patreon we.

Moses Hacmon (100:14)

I do love a book. I used to love books and when I had time to read, I loved reading books. But haven't had that time in a while.

Trisha Paytas (100:19)

Yeah, go figure.

Moses Hacmon (100:21)

Yeah. I love Barnes and Noble though. Like I love going to Barnes Noble and picking up like a physical copy of a book. It's so fun.

Trisha Paytas (100:25)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (100:25)

I used to buy so many books just based on the COVID have a good cover. That's what I've learned.

Trisha Paytas (100:29)

Judge a book, buy its cover sometimes.

Moses Hacmon (100:31)

Absolutely. Because sometimes I just buy books. I don't even know if it has a good cover. I'll be like, this looks interesting or a good name or something.

Trisha Paytas (100:37)

Yeah. So do you have your cover picked out? We're doing it soon, in like a month.

Moses Hacmon (100:43)

Even though it doesn't come out for like a year. Like you do it all like so far in advance.

Trisha Paytas (100:46)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (100:47)

And then by the publishing time it takes another six months. Like it just like we'll be done this year but everything takes like nine months.

Trisha Paytas (100:52)

Wow.

Moses Hacmon (100:52)

Yeah, I'm excited. It's good. I can't wait to tell more details about it and how it all came about because it's actually so good and I'm really excited about it. But yeah, it's a good one.

Trisha Paytas (100:59)

I hope it becomes a bestseller.

Moses Hacmon (101:01)

I think so. I think because every YouTuber has become a bestseller. I think it's very easy. As I said, not easy. I don't want to jinx it. Like I don't get it.

Trisha Paytas (101:08)

How can you be much?

Moses Hacmon (101:09)

I know, but I think it's like you do like three signings and it's like cuz it's. It's not, you know.

Trisha Paytas (101:14)

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Moses Hacmon (101:15)

Cuz I remember, I remember thinking that I was like seeing every YouTuber get New York Times with seller. I'm like, wow, that's impressive.

Trisha Paytas (101:20)

But yeah, then you really can't tour before the book comes out. Cuz you have to, you got to build that demand.

Moses Hacmon (101:25)

O good call.

Trisha Paytas (101:26)

Good. Yeah. Cuz if they just saw you like a month ago, they're like, well, I don't need to, you know, go to.

Moses Hacmon (101:30)

The signing that is so true.

Trisha Paytas (101:32)

Yeah. You got to build the demand.

Moses Hacmon (101:33)

Little immersive book tour. Maybe. Maybe I'll do an album with the book. Oh, I'll sing the book.

Trisha Paytas (101:38)

Oh, like audible tease. Okay.

Moses Hacmon (101:43)

Oh, yeah. Maybe I'll just read it.

Trisha Paytas (101:44)

Yeah. I do love like Jeanette McCurdy did her audiobook and I loved her.

Moses Hacmon (101:48)

Oh, I love her audiobook. I know. I, I listened to Britney's audiobook. You know, Britney didn't do the audio as. Damn. If Britney was saying like speaking. Who did it again? Michelle Williams.

Trisha Paytas (101:57)

Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes.

Moses Hacmon (101:58)

The one that was Meredith Heath Ledger.

Trisha Paytas (102:00)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (102:00)

There's two Michelle Williams out there.

Trisha Paytas (102:01)

There's Destiny's Child and.

Moses Hacmon (102:03)

Yeah, that's very confusing.

Trisha Paytas (102:05)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (102:05)

You know, because you did like clarify especially.

Trisha Paytas (102:07)

True. And if Michelle Williams from Destiny's Child ever did acting, would she be able to. You could for sag. Would she be able to use her name?

Moses Hacmon (102:14)

Oh, that's a good question. Because she's in death becomes her right now. And people are very confused. She says all the time people think it's like the other Michelle Williams. Oh, yes. Because obviously Michelle Williams is famous. But they're like, which one is in this show? Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (102:26)

Oh, how interesting. Because sad. You can only. Yeah, yeah. It has to be like a unique.

Moses Hacmon (102:31)

Yeah, usually people just like change their names if there's already one in there. Let's ask sag. Another survey.

Trisha Paytas (102:37)

A bullet survey and a SAG survey are going to be going on today.

Moses Hacmon (102:40)

A range of topics from the beginning. My whole tick tock is. This is the trendingest topic on tick tock right now is the girl who fell in love with her therapist.

Oscar (102:49)

Have you seen Kendra?

Trisha Paytas (102:50)

Oh, I have Kendra.

Moses Hacmon (102:51)

Yeah. Oh, we all know this. Okay. This kind of breaking, I feel like it just happened overnight. Right. Because I just saw it this morning.

Trisha Paytas (102:57)

The one that like over zooms or whatever. Right, right.

Oscar (102:59)

And then. But she had one meeting in person.

Moses Hacmon (103:01)

She did in person. Because then he was like drawing the boundary of like no hugs and stuff like that. I watched it all this morning because we had time. I was. Every time. We're always mixed. If I'm like running late, it's one of us.

Trisha Paytas (103:13)

Yes.

Moses Hacmon (103:13)

And then today, when you're ready, I was like ready like an hour before. And I was like, oh my God, I really have. All this time. We did a caviar in his video. I was like, well, I'll watch this 50 part series. I was like, okay. So it was like, it was like this long series that Kendra did. And at first I was like, kind of like on her side. I was like, oh, my God, it's so crazy. But then the more I realized it, I was like, oh, my gosh. I feel like our system is like, failing people with mental health problems. Because she had said to her therapist that, you know, her insurance won't cover, like, mental health, which is like, because he's a psychiatrist, right? Not a psychologist. Was that right?

Trisha Paytas (103:46)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (103:47)

And so she's like, oh, it doesn't cover it anymore, like her insurance. So she like, like stop seeing him or something like that. But I was like, this girl all, obviously we're not diagnosing her, but there seems to be something a little wrong, if nothing else.

Trisha Paytas (103:57)

A little?

Moses Hacmon (103:58)

Well, first of all, she has adhd, so she admits to having this where she needs the help or whatever, which is like, fine. But there seems to be something a little more like maybe a little like delusional or something. You know, the guy, the therapist, her psychiatrist. Do we know? I don't know. There's a big difference. She has both. Right? That was the thing that got me. So she thought her therapist was manipulating her to be. Or psychiatrist, I guess, was manipulating her to be in love with her. Then she has a therapist who's like a woman who she also thought was in love with her. And I was thinking, like, maybe this lady's a little, like, delusional. Obviously this person's a little, like, unwell. Like she's like, doxing him on live. She, like, said his name and stuff like that. And yeah, just like all this really sad stuff. And I was just thinking, like, it is crazy that all insurances doesn't cover mental health. Like, the fact that her insurance, like, won't cover her. This is the person they need to cover. You know what I mean? And now she's on tick tock telling this whole. You look really good with that without glasses. I'm like, distracted. Wow. I don't know if I've ever seen you without glasses.

Trisha Paytas (104:48)

I know. I can't. I never came off really, so that's crazy.

Moses Hacmon (104:52)

You look so good. Look at Oscar. Wow, look at that face. That's crazy. Oh, my God. It makes me emotional. Okay, sorry.

Trisha Paytas (104:57)

I feel like my. My face is so, like, my head is big, so I like having glasses to, like, you know.

Moses Hacmon (105:01)

No, you look good. Oh, my God. You like. You look like. I think I told you this before. You look Johnny Glucky from Big Bang Theory. Oh, my God. It's crazy. And he wears glasses, but you without glasses, I see it more. You look so good. Anyways. But I do. I was gonna do a PSA that. I do think that we should be covering people with mental health problems because this. This girl is. She's going off on Tick Tock and she's definitely spiraling. And she says she's not crashing out, which is a pretty big sign that you're crashing out. Because when people would tell me, and I speak this from experience, a lot of people are speculating. There was a TikTok creator called Lily Lilia, Lilla Bao, I think is her name. She's done a really good, like, deep dive into this. And I was watching her and, you know, she had speculated maybe it's like borderline, but now it's like schizophrenia because the person she doxed specializes in schizophrenia. Anyways, there's like, a lot of things that could be wrong, but the fact is there is something wrong and she can't be covered. And now she's on Tick tock, going off and reaching out.

Oscar (105:52)

I warned a while ago about the Chat GPT psychosis.

Moses Hacmon (105:56)

That part.

Oscar (105:57)

That part, like, I've been trying to warn people. Like, it's real. It's not a joke. It's real.

Moses Hacmon (106:02)

No. And she's so real about it. And she's like. Like she's showing herself. Talk to it. His name's Henry. Her. She named her Chat GPT and she's speculating. I think her psychiatrist was like, Pakistani. So she's speculating that her Chat GPT is Pakistani because he's not agreeing with her.

Oscar (106:17)

Like, and she's. By the way, she's a coach. She coaches other people and she also recommends to them to get a judge Chat GPT as a form of therapy.

Moses Hacmon (106:28)

Wait, what is a life coach?

Oscar (106:30)

Life coach is somebody that they want to go to school but still wants to be. Yeah, Life coach is like. Like, almost like a chiropractor.

Moses Hacmon (106:37)

No, wait, what?

Oscar (106:39)

But mentally.

Moses Hacmon (106:40)

Wait, but life coaches.

Oscar (106:41)

Anyone can be life coach. You can be tomorrow a life coach. There's no certificate. There's nothing.

Moses Hacmon (106:48)

Because someone came out that was like one of her.

Oscar (106:50)

Right.

Moses Hacmon (106:51)

I don't guess not patients. I guess one of her clients like life coaching. And I was like, right.

Oscar (106:56)

For sobriety and stuff. And I don't.

Moses Hacmon (106:58)

Look, I think you can do anything with mental health, but clearly this girl is not treated well. She. Guess she was, but then she was love. And I've been there too, where you just think, like, everyone's in love with you and you're just like, I don't. I don't know. I Don't think every psychiatrist.

Oscar (107:11)

Well, I remember somebody I know that's schizophrenic and they have those episodes where they think people like, they'll just be in a space and some. No, but like you see a person that has no connection to them, them and they'll tell you, like, he keeps looking at me. He loves, like, he wants me, he loves me. Like, yeah, yeah, they have that. So she has that seems allegedly like has some kind of that. Because some people. The problem was that this is. Was a one source story. So you only know the story from her side. Yeah, but there was one moment that she showed an email from her therapist and then you saw the way she interpret that email was very different from the way it was written written. So then you start to see, okay, there is a filter here that she's actually reading into things differently from the way they're being said. So something of that nature is happening here.

Moses Hacmon (107:59)

Yeah.

Oscar (108:00)

And then I don't know.

Moses Hacmon (108:01)

And he can't obviously defend himself if he's a psychiatrist because this is. Everyone says like, and it is true. A lot of people were like saying like, you know, she's wearing the glasses he liked. Which then someone's like, well, he also wears tortoiseshell glasses. So they're like, maybe she was just saying because he wears, wears it. So she's wearing tortoiseshell glasses in these videos. So she's almost like signaling for him to like reach out to her. Which I've been there too as a mentally unwell person. When you're not well and you're not getting help, like you do like you do extreme things like that. Like where you try and think like, maybe they'll see this and fall in love with me. Maybe they'll see this and reach out to me. But if he is a psychiatrist, I'm assuming he's not going to go on tick tock or reach out to her because she's like sense. Because she's like on live too. She's been on Live Lives and she like, since this all happened, she's like, you know, he hasn't reached out and it's like, well, why would he? You know what I mean? But our system's no mental health days at work. Oh, you get mental health days?

Trisha Paytas (108:53)

No. Oh, yes.

Moses Hacmon (108:56)

You don't get him in your other job. That is kind of wild to me because like if you anywhere if I need a mental, like if you're just like, I'm not mentally well to come in, like that should be a Very valid reason to not come in for the safety of you and others. Others.

Oscar (109:09)

But it should be combined with support, not just, okay, take the day off. Okay, take the day off. Go see someone here. Somebody we will pay for you to see.

Moses Hacmon (109:17)

But also sometimes maybe you just need a day off, you know what I mean? Sometimes, like I don't need to talk to someone. You know, sometimes having a rough day.

Oscar (109:24)

In her case, she has all the days off. She's just off.

Moses Hacmon (109:27)

I don't know, she might still be life coaching out there. We don't know what her job is entailing, but that is wild. Could you imagine me being a life coach at like my mentally unwell days? Like just coaching other people how to live life well? And again, like I think you can if you are also seeking help. That's why she goes to all these therapists and psychiatrists. Maybe she's getting like information, trying to give it to other people.

Trisha Paytas (109:46)

Yeah, poor thing.

Moses Hacmon (109:48)

I mean, because like, yeah, I mean you're seeing somebody because you know you need help and then you think they're in love with you or.

Oscar (109:54)

A lot of life coaches come from a troublesome past, you know, because they overcame something.

Moses Hacmon (110:00)

Yes.

Oscar (110:01)

They want to give those tools to other people. So that's, that's normal. That happens a lot. But in this case, you know, she might even have good advice. But in her personal relationship to the therapist or other people, there is a big, big problem.

Moses Hacmon (110:17)

She definitely needs help. I, I, and I know I've only had like one therapist I liked and.

Oscar (110:21)

Yeah, and chat GPT is designed to agree with you and amplify whatever you want. So it's kind of like, you know, when you talk spirituality, like, you know, ask the universe, it will provide. It will. Like, so you're in this echo chamber that the universe is echoing whatever you want and it just leads you into psychosis.

Moses Hacmon (110:43)

I, I do want to say I think Henry disagreed with her and I think that's why she got mad. She was pissed. She's like, I think you're this person. Because she was mad. Like, so if he's supposed to always agree, this one definitely was like girl, no.

Oscar (110:53)

And there was, I saw one that there was a moment cuz she went, I think she went to Reddit trying to find more victims, more people that this therapist has done this to. And from the response, suddenly she realized, I can't believe this, I'm the victim. And suddenly I find out that I'm the perpetrator and I'm the, and she's like, no, I'm the victim in this.

Moses Hacmon (111:12)

And this is a crash out.

Trisha Paytas (111:14)

I think gives me Joe Goldberg vibes. Oh, the way that, like.

Oscar (111:20)

Yeah, because she's kind of, like, intelligent about it. Yeah, very.

Trisha Paytas (111:23)

Oh, but just perceiving everything where just, like, so different, you know what I mean? Like, not the killing, obviously, but just that the interpersonal relationships.

Moses Hacmon (111:33)

Although the girls would fall in love with him. Right.

Trisha Paytas (111:37)

I guess. But it was also like he was projecting. Like, even when they were like, stay away from me, he was like, no.

Moses Hacmon (111:43)

But I have to, like, yeah, I think he's doing. He's like, I can't give you. I can't give you hugs anymore. And she goes, he's saying. Saying that because he's a smart and he doesn't want anyone to know about us. And I was like, oh, girl.

Oscar (111:52)

She could have met somebody that was as problematic as she is and it would have happened. And you know what I mean? Like, there could have been somebody that would play along.

Moses Hacmon (112:00)

Right.

Oscar (112:01)

But it will be.

Moses Hacmon (112:03)

Tick Tock is just messy for this reason. I just feel so sad because people are, like, mentally on what got. I mean, we had YouTube for me, but, God, if I had a TikTok, I'd be making 5,000 TikToks. They've got me crying.

Trisha Paytas (112:15)

So with Tick Tock, like, anyone, like, it can have, like, anyone can just, like, blow up. You know what I mean? Like, and then it's so. And then, especially if you don't. Aren't used to attention and like, then all of a sudden you're just like a regular person who is having that, like, mental, like, spiral, and then you're just instantly getting that gratification and you've never had it before, too. Like, that is so dangerous.

Moses Hacmon (112:38)

So dangerous. The virality of how fast it is and how many people see it.

Trisha Paytas (112:42)

And even for people that, like, are used to, like, having a platform, like Gabbie Hannah, when she was like. Because she really was doing it on Tick Tock for a while, and it was like the instant gratification, like, and you felt it too, on YouTube. It was that, like, reinforcing, like, almost encouraging to continue spiraling.

Moses Hacmon (112:59)

Yes. Because you're getting the attention, so you're like, let me just keep.

Trisha Paytas (113:01)

People are, like, joking with it. Like, you know, people are, like, leaving jokes in the comments and stuff. And then it just, like, keeps it. It fuels it. So.

Oscar (113:11)

And there were a few people that at the beginning agreed with her and thought she was the victim. So, you know, it fueled her further.

Trisha Paytas (113:18)

Yeah.

Oscar (113:18)

And anyone that Criticizes her. She blocks. So she creates a space where there are a few people that support her delusion.

Moses Hacmon (113:25)

Then it's like a. It's like a wildfire. Because then it's like she. She docs the person on like a live. But now every Tik Tok is like his picture everywhere. So it's just like his picture, his name is this. It's like. And everyone's like, this was wrong of her to do. And they're like, well, everyone's now just like spreading this information. It was scary. I was like, glued to it. And that's the problem. I was like, glued to a jam, like, watching all these tick tocks and I'm like, looking at all her lives and I was just like, oh, my gosh. But then I'm like, wow. No one's like, really helping this person.

Trisha Paytas (113:51)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (113:52)

You know. Yeah. In you. The therapist had fallen love with the girl. Right, Right. John Stamos with G.W.

Trisha Paytas (114:02)

Beck. Right.

Moses Hacmon (114:03)

Yeah. So, I mean, maybe she watched it. That's what I'm saying. If you're like, it's, you know, she's had like borderline, which I have, or whatever. It's like you watch these shows and you could see how it, like, happens and you can misinterpret stuff, especially when you're unwell. Oh, my God. I really thought everyone was in love with me for a period of time. So I feel for her. Anyways, insurance people get tough mental health coverage.

Trisha Paytas (114:23)

Yeah. I mean, even like, I'm really in. I been watching a lot of like, news, like true crime news videos. But there was just a case in Montana where like, this. I think it was a veteran, like a military veteran, but he was denied. He like, he went. He did like one appointment and they said, like, they referred him and like, said that he needed this other kind of like, mental health treatment. He got denied twice. And even though he, like. They said he would be like a danger to himself or other people, and then he like, went to like, a local bar and like, shot. Yes.

Moses Hacmon (114:59)

Oh, my God.

Trisha Paytas (115:00)

Yeah. And then he went on the. Like, he's just. They. He went into the wilderness and now they're like, trying to like, find him.

Moses Hacmon (115:05)

Actively currently this happening.

Trisha Paytas (115:07)

Yeah, like, it was just this week that this happened. But it just sucks seeing like the system feeling people and like, seeing that something could have been not to like, obviously it doesn't excuse what he did, but it just sucks that it could have been prevented if, you know, he.

Moses Hacmon (115:19)

Did get a lot of shooters in particular, because a lot of people will be like, no, it's not mental health. It's gun laws. But it's also like, it goes hand in hand. Like, I think, like, these people don't get the help they need and they ask for help and they don't get it. And that's scary that he, like, asked for and they're like, no, actually getting died.

Trisha Paytas (115:35)

But yeah, it's like, I don't even know how you fix that. Like, the system is just.

Moses Hacmon (115:40)

No, but you can't. That's why it's like, so depressing to even, like, watch the news, because it's like, you just can't because no one's doing anything about it other than giving free health coverage to everybody, including.

Trisha Paytas (115:49)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (115:50)

And psychiatry. Like, especially, like, therapists and psychiatrists. And. Yeah. With this case, I don't know, I'd be like, oh, you should only have, like, your same gender. But then she's like, accusing her female therapist too, since it's doc.

Trisha Paytas (115:59)

Like, you know how, like, I mean, so old news. But, like, remember when, like, sssniperwolf doxed Jackson?

Moses Hacmon (116:05)

Yes.

Trisha Paytas (116:06)

And, like, YouTube, he demonetized her or, like, you know, made her take it down or whatever. Yeah. I'm surprised. Tik Tok, like, once you dock, someone doesn't do something.

Moses Hacmon (116:16)

I don't know if she was live on Tik Tok or Can you go live on Reddit or.

Trisha Paytas (116:19)

No, I don't know.

Moses Hacmon (116:21)

Someone seemed like it was.

Trisha Paytas (116:22)

Oh, I don't know. I don't.

Oscar (116:24)

Maybe somebody has to complain. So first he needs to take action. And I. I'm sure an account like her could be banned for that. Probably should, but he needs to take action. And a lot of people said he needs a lawyer right now and he needs to take action and go to the police because this is, well, probably all happening.

Moses Hacmon (116:40)

This all happened in 24 hours because it's probably only so quickly. You can.

Trisha Paytas (116:43)

Scary how quick it is.

Moses Hacmon (116:44)

Like, how my whole thing this morning was that, like, I didn't know about this last night and I was just like, what is happening?

Trisha Paytas (116:49)

I only heard about it in passing, too. I didn't know it became such a big.

Moses Hacmon (116:52)

How in passing, you were just, like, walking down the hallway at work.

Trisha Paytas (116:54)

I was just scrolling through Twitter. Oh, yeah.

Moses Hacmon (116:58)

On social media, I bet you read, like, at Chicken Caffeine. You overheard it or something. And I was like, wow, that's crazy. You were on your phone.

Trisha Paytas (117:06)

Yes.

Moses Hacmon (117:07)

Yeah, well, I mean, that's how I hear about everything. I just scroll in passing and scrolling. Yeah, I Do scroll. I miss the TikTok days where they're like, stop scrolling. You've been on here too long. Because I would like take that to heart and be like, I guess you.

Trisha Paytas (117:19)

Couldn'T start making those.

Moses Hacmon (117:21)

I should say stop scrolling. You've been. Yeah, they knew that it was during quarantine. I remember they did that a lot. Like people would be be like, go to sleep. And I was like, all right. Tea. That was my one hot topic.

Trisha Paytas (117:34)

It was hot at least. Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (117:36)

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Trisha Paytas (118:51)

Eat any fish?

Moses Hacmon (118:52)

Have you tried it?

Trisha Paytas (118:53)

Fried products? No.

Moses Hacmon (118:54)

Try it. It.

Trisha Paytas (118:55)

Do you think I would like it?

Moses Hacmon (118:56)

No, I hated it. It was so fishy. Cuz he puts it on a little toast with cream cheese.

Trisha Paytas (119:00)

Oh, so did I deceive you?

Moses Hacmon (119:02)

Yeah. I was like, okay, I'll just taste the cream cheese. I can't even taste it. And it also doesn't smell fishy. So I was like, all right, let me try. Cuz I never tried caviar.

Oscar (119:08)

This was the least fishy one I've had.

Trisha Paytas (119:11)

Lord.

Oscar (119:11)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (119:14)

Try caviar fish.

Oscar (119:16)

It was good. From Costco.

Trisha Paytas (119:18)

Ironically, I was like one of the oldest old. It was Right after Elvis. Because you had started writing your Trish like Trish like Fish Tavern series after Elvis.

Moses Hacmon (119:29)

Oh.

Trisha Paytas (119:29)

And I watched that clip and you said that the Trish. No, it wasn't bad. You said Trish like fish. The Tavern made was gonna be half fish. And I thought that was interesting. Hence. Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (119:44)

Yep. Raised by dolphins.

Trisha Paytas (119:47)

Yeah. Somehow after this pregnancy, you replaced that with Daniel Radcliffe, though. So I don't know where I have.

Moses Hacmon (119:53)

To work him into my series. I've been workshopping it upstairs, so I think tonight I'll do a little Harry Potter tie in. Or just Daniel Radcliffe in general.

Trisha Paytas (120:00)

Yeah, just maybe just Daniel. Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (120:02)

Yeah. I'm trying to think of the. The universe, but you had a little.

Trisha Paytas (120:07)

I think you said, what's his name? Oh, my. Why am I forgetting his name? Wicked.

Moses Hacmon (120:12)

Jonathan Bailey.

Trisha Paytas (120:13)

No, other one. Ariana. Of this man.

Moses Hacmon (120:15)

Oh, Ethan.

Trisha Paytas (120:15)

Yeah, I think you said him and it. I guess you could replace Ethan Slater with Daniel Radcliffe.

Moses Hacmon (120:20)

I think so. Probably more relevant.

Trisha Paytas (120:21)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (120:22)

Are they broken up?

Trisha Paytas (120:23)

I don't know. We never see them anywhere anything about them in a while.

Oscar (120:28)

But we will probably because I just saw pictures from the new movie.

Moses Hacmon (120:31)

You saw Ethan Slater from the new movie?

Oscar (120:33)

No, pictures of Ariana Grande.

Moses Hacmon (120:35)

The one we saw. The one I went, yeah.

Trisha Paytas (120:37)

New trailer today and.

Moses Hacmon (120:38)

Oh, is it out?

Trisha Paytas (120:39)

They. It's all the same footage, but. But yeah, new trailer and the new posters.

Moses Hacmon (120:44)

Did you see any else besides Glinda.

Trisha Paytas (120:45)

And Elphaba, poster wise? No.

Moses Hacmon (120:48)

I thought we were getting all the character reveals and we haven't seen any Tin Man, Scarecrow.

Trisha Paytas (120:52)

They're probably gonna save that for. I would think, right? Because even in the trailer they don't like. They haven't shown.

Moses Hacmon (120:58)

Oh, damn, I can't wait to see it. When's it come out? November.

Trisha Paytas (121:02)

November? Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (121:03)

That's not too far. We're getting into fall.

Trisha Paytas (121:05)

I know. It is actually crazy.

Moses Hacmon (121:08)

Are you a pumpkin person? I like, feel.

Trisha Paytas (121:09)

Forget. I love pumpkin pie. Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (121:12)

Okay. What about like a pumpkin donut? Pumpkin spice.

Trisha Paytas (121:14)

Yes.

Moses Hacmon (121:15)

But you don't like coffee, so you're not like a pumpkin spice latte.

Trisha Paytas (121:18)

I do like a pumpkin spice latte, even though I don't like coffee.

Moses Hacmon (121:21)

That's so interesting.

Trisha Paytas (121:21)

Yeah, well, it doesn't really taste like coffee. It just tastes like sweet kind of a latte. It's so sweet, though.

Moses Hacmon (121:26)

There's espresso in it.

Oscar (121:28)

Yeah, but it's not strong.

Moses Hacmon (121:29)

Yeah, okay, I see what you mean. Yeah. It's not just like a cup of coffee.

Trisha Paytas (121:32)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (121:32)

Yeah. Both Dunkin and Starbucks has their Menu. Menu. And it looks so good. It's like pumpkin everything. I don't know why, why do we get excited around this shabby year to get pumpkin as if we don't like. Because it's not that good. I like pumpkin, but it's like not that good.

Trisha Paytas (121:44)

But I guess it just feels festive.

Moses Hacmon (121:46)

Feels cozy.

Trisha Paytas (121:47)

Yeah.

Oscar (121:48)

Fall vibes. And towards Christmas I'm excited for fall vibes.

Trisha Paytas (121:53)

Even though I don't like summer, I'm kind of sad that summer's ending.

Moses Hacmon (121:56)

Yeah. This is the first year I agree with you. I was. I can't go in the pool because of my may freaking C section for maybe another week or two. But it's been so depressing not being in the pool. I'm like oh I love summer and like cooking out like.

Trisha Paytas (122:06)

Yeah. I feel like I haven't done anything super summer yet.

Moses Hacmon (122:09)

Really?

Trisha Paytas (122:10)

I mean beach.

Moses Hacmon (122:11)

No. You're not a beach person.

Trisha Paytas (122:12)

No, I just, I'm not a sand person. But I haven't even done like I haven't like usually I go to Hawaii and I do the beach but. Yeah. Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (122:18)

I think maybe that's why you don't feel it. But also sometimes summer is just a vibe because we don't necessarily do anything too summer. We do the pool and we do cookouts. But also kind of just the vibe of being an air conditioning is you know I guess to you want were freezing and I was like I love it. I took a little blanket and I was like oh I love being cold and you know it's like yeah summer sometimes it's just the vibe.

Trisha Paytas (122:35)

Yeah, true.

Moses Hacmon (122:36)

And the ice. Yeah. The iced teas and the movies. Boiling crab movie. Oh I want to know the movie so bad. I door dashed AMC after we talked about it. I did have that popcorn was so good. I threw it out after like two bites cuz I was like I don't want to get sick but it was so good.

Trisha Paytas (122:48)

I missed the. Oh I got in a fight at the AMC yesterday. It was a whole debacle.

Moses Hacmon (122:51)

You went on a Tuesday.

Trisha Paytas (122:53)

Yeah. Which big mistake because it's half price Tuesday. So I like feel. I feel like people who aren't like you know, the typical crowd.

Moses Hacmon (122:59)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (123:00)

This man was just so rude.

Moses Hacmon (123:01)

What happened? He.

Trisha Paytas (123:04)

We were in line to get a nice cola, you know. Yeah. Just in line and he. It was a British man. A middle aged British man to set the scene so already like you know he's gonna be kind of annoying Simon.

Moses Hacmon (123:16)

Cowell type t. Literally. Pierce Morgan maybe. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (123:19)

Pierce Morgan down Chris Morgan boots.

Moses Hacmon (123:21)

Yes. No.

Trisha Paytas (123:22)

And we were. The line was pretty slow, whatever. But me and Darren was just talking and then he goes. He was like three people behind, too. He's like, just in an act. I'm not going to do the accent because I'm bad at British accents. But the accent made it worse. Like, made it way more condescending. He was like, just so you know, if you would get off your phones, you would see that they were. That they've been calling you and now they're calling from the other line because you didn't see. And it was in the concession line. He said, yes. And it was. And also, like, there's three people. Like, it was. I guess he was pointing to the one all the way in the corner, so I wouldn't have been able to hear him anyway. Or I've seen them being like, so whatever. And I was like. And I was like, okay. And then he like. And then he stepped back and he started talking. Whoever he was with, he's like, oh, these? He's like, yeah, if these kids wouldn't just look up from there. Like, he was going on and on. Sir, you need to relax. I literally, Yes. I was like, it is not that. I was five. I got in trouble with Darian because he. He's like. He was mad. I made a scene at the AMC where we go like four times a week.

Moses Hacmon (124:18)

Yeah, I get that. I get that.

Trisha Paytas (124:19)

But there's been too many middle aged men. And the last time we went, a middle aged man was yelling at one of the employees and I had to tell him to relax too. But it didn't become the whole thing. This one was targeted on me. So I was really going on. And he was. I was like, sir, you need to relax. I'm like, it is not that serious. Like, we are right here. We're waiting for the. The freaking popcorn, whatever.

Moses Hacmon (124:37)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (124:37)

And then he's like. I was like, what do you say? And then he came out. Then he stepped up to me. He's like, you gotta get off your phone. Go look over whatever. And then he was like, I'm done speaking to you. And I was like, okay, well, I'm not done speaking to you. It is not that serious. I was like, why are you sitting here trying to manage the line? And then Darian went. And I was still going off. And then he was telling the guy behind me, he's like, okay, now you go to that one. I was like, what are you doing? You don't. You're not an employee here. And then the gag is we walked into the same movie. Movie Fantastic Four and 3D and IMAX. And we were early. It was still the previews. There was no even big rush to go in to see the movie. And then the guy is. I went to go to the bathroom before the movie started. And he was standing in the corner on his phone and I. He saw me then look back at his phone. And I was staring at his eyes the whole time. And his little man purse was in the way. And I shoved his man percent. I was heated. I was heated.

Moses Hacmon (125:27)

You shove the birds is crazy.

Trisha Paytas (125:29)

I was here. Don't we come to this place for magic, all of us, because we need that. So don't come here, try to ruin my magic. Like, are you.

Moses Hacmon (125:37)

I think I'd be scared to confront someone because it's like you're all confined in the same spot. I don't want him to, like, do anything crazy.

Trisha Paytas (125:43)

I think because he was like just a scrawny, middle aged, like, white man, British man. I was like, I mean, look at the news.

Moses Hacmon (125:48)

Sometimes it is those people, you know what I mean?

Trisha Paytas (125:51)

Just his vibe. Like, I knew it was giving just like guarantees. And I'm like, I think I'm crazy crazier than him. So.

Moses Hacmon (125:56)

Oh, yeah, okay, we'll go to the movies with you.

Trisha Paytas (126:00)

I love. I'm so kind at the amc. Like, I love. I love the vibes. I'm so nice to the employees. The ticket people, they know me. They're like, what are you saying today? Like, I. The vibes are so good. So when you ruin the vibe at the amc, like, we're gonna let him ruin your vibe. I wanna. Darian was saying the same. And I knew he would agree with Darian.

Moses Hacmon (126:17)

But I'm like, the fact that this.

Trisha Paytas (126:19)

Man thinks he could just come up to someone and talk, I'm like, like, no, I can't let him go through the rest of his life thinking he can just talk to people like this and no one's gonna say anything.

Moses Hacmon (126:25)

But again, he's old. So the rest of his life is not that long.

Trisha Paytas (126:28)

It's long enough. Like, he's like, not old. It was giving. I hope.

Moses Hacmon (126:34)

Jesus. Oh, my God. Because it's like, I get it, I get it. I love it. Like, stand up for you. But I mean, it's just a concession line.

Trisha Paytas (126:44)

That's why I was.

Moses Hacmon (126:45)

He was talking to someone else. I'm like, whatever.

Trisha Paytas (126:48)

And I feel like the lady he was with was probably. Because she was also probably the Darien where she was like, probably Embarrassed that he was doing all that because she was sitting there, like, awkwardly. Really quiet, too. But I was like, no, sir. No. I think the British really sent me over the edge.

Oscar (127:00)

Imagine this person at the airport.

Trisha Paytas (127:02)

Oh, my God.

Oscar (127:03)

I don't even want to think he's that nervous for headlines.

Moses Hacmon (127:07)

Like, a certain trigger. It's like, maybe the. The food is like, his trigger. Like, the concessions. Like, you know, you're not. You're not.

Oscar (127:11)

You know, he's always there as a judge, judgment about the phones. You know, he's standing there with his wife. He has nothing to look at. Nothing interesting. He's like, oh, well, he had his.

Moses Hacmon (127:18)

Phone in the back.

Trisha Paytas (127:18)

Yeah. He was standing in the freaking theater on his phone. Ironically. I'm like, what?

Moses Hacmon (127:22)

It was theater or bathroom?

Trisha Paytas (127:24)

He was in the. Like, around the corner in the theater. Like, you know, like, as you go down the aisle before. Yeah, he was standing there on his phone. No, I was on my way to the bathroom, and I passed him in the little dark hallway on his phone in the theater.

Moses Hacmon (127:34)

Is crazy.

Trisha Paytas (127:35)

Yeah. After all that, I was like, he really pissed me off. And I'm so, so. I'm so nice. But, like, this. I. I can't snap. And Darian was, like, very upset with me. I did get in trouble. Everyone. I did get in trouble.

Moses Hacmon (127:45)

But, yeah, I agree with him on that.

Trisha Paytas (127:47)

You would? Yeah. I was thinking. I was like, what would Trisha think? Because I was like, I wasn't gonna tell the story because I knew what side you were gonna be on.

Moses Hacmon (127:53)

I would walk away from me a big person. Like, that's so embarrassing. But I'm not embarrassing.

Trisha Paytas (127:58)

But, yeah, I was not afraid to make a scene. And there was girls in the line, like, in the non, like, AMC A list line or whatever. And they were like, young girls. I'm like, they could be list listeners. But I'm like, good. I don't even care if they tell other friends that. Oscar from Just Trash.

Moses Hacmon (128:13)

Which I don't love. The. What is that called? The Separation at amc, there's a line vip. And then there's a lot, like, not. Oh, yeah, A list. And then there's the non. A list.

Trisha Paytas (128:23)

I'm like, that was. That's why he was mad. Because they. Because I didn't hear. I guess, allegedly, according to him, because, again, there's, like, two people that are specifically for the line we were in, and then there's one person that. That takes the other one line. Anyway, so he was mad that, like, the. The. The non A list line got pulled before he did.

Moses Hacmon (128:42)

Oh, well, there's an added layer to the story. I might be pissed, too. I'm like, we are in A list, and you should have been going, no.

Trisha Paytas (128:48)

But we have the two. A list gets the two cashiers, and then there's one person all the way at the end that gets the normal line. That's always how it is.

Moses Hacmon (128:54)

No, no, Because I also do the AMC normal line, and they always take A list no matter what. I'm like 100%, 90, 89% positive.

Trisha Paytas (129:02)

Well, I go to the AMC more than you.

Moses Hacmon (129:04)

Well, I'm a normie, and I know we get passed all the time by the A listers, and it drives me nuts. I was like, how are you gonna take out? Because I would love if there's just an A list line, like First Class. It's like First Class on United. There's the first class and then there's the normies. Okay. And. Well, it's amc we go to here in Thousand Oaks. Like, they're. They will always take a VIP or a Lister before us.

Trisha Paytas (129:23)

At ours, there is more. There's more cashiers for the A list. A list line. And then if the a. If those two cashiers don't have A Listers, then they'll take more from the normal line, the regular line. But there's. There's always a ratio. It's like there. If there's three cashiers open, two are A list. One is for regular people.

Moses Hacmon (129:42)

We're gonna go. My mom is an A lister.

Trisha Paytas (129:44)

But you gotta go to Japan. You can't go here. Maybe it's a different system.

Moses Hacmon (129:47)

I do love Topanga. I'll go with my mom. She's an A lister. I'll have her in the A list.

Trisha Paytas (129:51)

A lot of surveys are being done.

Moses Hacmon (129:53)

Investigation, but sometimes I'm just like, they recognize me and they take me. So then I feel like, okay, you.

Trisha Paytas (129:59)

Have to pull a Tyra. You're going to have to pull a Tyra Tyra show and go in disguise, Put on a bat suit or be unhoused.

Moses Hacmon (130:07)

Pick one with a blanket over my head or something.

Trisha Paytas (130:10)

Got to pull a tire.

Moses Hacmon (130:11)

Okay. Done and done. Do it when we want to see Naked Gun. That's the only movie. We keep always wanting to see movies that we never do.

Trisha Paytas (130:17)

But I know. I'm sure that we can many this year.

Oscar (130:20)

You have.

Moses Hacmon (130:21)

What did you say?

Oscar (130:22)

We've seen so many movies that we're definitely going to see.

Moses Hacmon (130:27)

Oh, we saw Snow White.

Trisha Paytas (130:31)

Justice League.

Moses Hacmon (130:32)

Oh, yes, Minecraft.

Trisha Paytas (130:34)

Yeah, okay.

Moses Hacmon (130:35)

Yeah, that one. We Did.

Trisha Paytas (130:36)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (130:36)

Oh, I love a Minecraft.

Trisha Paytas (130:37)

Yeah?

Moses Hacmon (130:38)

Yeah. Did you watch it yet?

Trisha Paytas (130:39)

No. I should though. Got raving reviews from YouTube.

Moses Hacmon (130:43)

Yeah, I went to the Sawski store online and bought all them in Sawski.

Trisha Paytas (130:47)

I love your minimalist Sarah, which is Labubus and Swarovski Minecraft and more purses.

Moses Hacmon (130:52)

I know, you're right. It's depression. Okay.

Trisha Paytas (130:57)

I am all about a mental health treat. I won't stop you.

Moses Hacmon (131:00)

Thank you. Love the support. And I support you in your theater endeavors.

Trisha Paytas (131:05)

Theater endeavors is wild.

Moses Hacmon (131:07)

Cause people in the comments like, Trisha never supports Oscar. Like she supports him. So I support you. Not physically. I wouldn't physically be there. I'd be like, I'm leaving. But from a far.

Trisha Paytas (131:16)

I support go off king, you know.

Moses Hacmon (131:18)

Yeah. In general, tell our listeners just, you know, not worth it. Cuz you never know. You get some crazies. You assess the situation and think it was crazy, but you just never know.

Trisha Paytas (131:27)

Yeah, I did assess and I normally like I'm never. You just catch me on the wrong day. It was a bad week though, cuz I. I didn't get much sleep. I had work early the day before. We didn't have water at our apartment for like 12 hours. So it was just an accumulation. And it builds like I have a high tolerance. Tolerance. But it builds and builds and builds. And this British man, what happened to like the American Revolutionary War didn't happen for nothing. Okay. You know what I mean? Who was that guy? Paul Revere.

Moses Hacmon (131:53)

What happened? I don't even know the British were coming.

Trisha Paytas (131:56)

The Americans. I don't know. Whatever.

Moses Hacmon (131:58)

Oh yeah, yeah.

Trisha Paytas (131:59)

Okay. So in God's country. That's not gonna. That man. That British man can't talk to me like that.

Moses Hacmon (132:05)

Okay, guys, all the British. British tour over here. Damn. This man was just old. Probably got to come some messed with the wrong one.

Trisha Paytas (132:16)

No, not. No, no slap.

Moses Hacmon (132:17)

What time was this? Was it the middle of the day or nighttime?

Trisha Paytas (132:19)

It was freaking 4pm this attitude. I know, but I was so the.

Moses Hacmon (132:24)

Old people are out.

Trisha Paytas (132:25)

I know it's the half price Tuesday, but like that attitude at 4pm is crazy work.

Moses Hacmon (132:29)

Definitely old people.

Trisha Paytas (132:30)

I was like, this is nuts. This is unacceptable. Unacceptable, comfortable.

Moses Hacmon (132:34)

Well, maybe just go at like 7 o'. Clock. Stick to the normal hours.

Trisha Paytas (132:38)

Not gonna go on a Tuesday ever again. Just in case.

Moses Hacmon (132:41)

Did you go because it was half off?

Trisha Paytas (132:42)

No, it was just coincidence.

Moses Hacmon (132:44)

Yeah, Hate that sometimes. Yeah. We went on like a toddler Tuesday before I had kids and I was like, oh man, it was just like kids running down the hallway. I was like, I did not know this was part of it. Hope he's doing well.

Trisha Paytas (132:55)

Apologies to the AMC employees. If I. The cashier was looking. I was like, that man is crazy. He was looking at me like I was a crazy one. I was like, like, well, you said you were.

Moses Hacmon (133:02)

You said you were crazier than him.

Trisha Paytas (133:04)

Yeah, but he's the instigator. Like, I would have been sweet as freaking pumpkin pie if he would. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I was in such a good mood. I was, like, jealous of the AMC employee shirts. That's what I was looking up. Ironically, they had an AMC, like, Fantastic Four shirt. Oh, on your phone.

Moses Hacmon (133:19)

You were looking it up.

Trisha Paytas (133:19)

I looked on ebay because I'm like, wow, I like that shirt. And that's. That's the only time I pulled out my phone in line, too, because I was. Anyway, whatever.

Moses Hacmon (133:25)

I do that whenever I watch a show. I'm like, oh, that. That purse is cute. And I like, Google it.

Trisha Paytas (133:28)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (133:29)

The trench coats that Maybelle wears and once. Once murders in the building there. This one. I loved it. What was the one? Oh, it's a brown crocodile one. And I was like, well, it's not. I mean, that's probably expensive. He's like, no, it's not gonna be expensive because she lives in this apartment that she can't afford. You know, the rent and $8,000 Tom Ford jacket.

Trisha Paytas (133:46)

Why would you think it'd be, like, authentic to her characters?

Moses Hacmon (133:50)

That's what I said.

Trisha Paytas (133:52)

He thought you.

Moses Hacmon (133:52)

You thought that. Yes.

Oscar (133:54)

Yeah. I was analyzing the character. I'm like, well, she would not be.

Trisha Paytas (133:56)

Wearing that because Selena Gomez.

Moses Hacmon (134:00)

Yeah, that's like, every jacket she wears.

Trisha Paytas (134:01)

Selena Gomez at an Emmy winning show.

Moses Hacmon (134:04)

Everything is Burberry, Prada, Tom Ford. Because I thought. I thought maybe, too, but I was like, well, they're not gonna put her in a fake brown crocodile jacket. But it was sass. I was like, that is weird. She's, like, squatting in this apartment she can't afford that has, like, this $10,000. That's crazy. 10,000 is crazy. Okay, $1,000,000. Cool. Maybe she splurges. Put it on her credit card. But yeah.

Trisha Paytas (134:24)

That is so funny.

Moses Hacmon (134:25)

Always a little. I was excited too. That couldn't splurge for that. They also didn't make it in my size, so I was like, no, we have a hot Hot Topic title. Is that the title Fighting at the amc? I like, it's riveting. I click on it.

Trisha Paytas (134:40)

I have a couple random quickies. Okay. You know Nikki Reid from Twilight.

Moses Hacmon (134:45)

Yes. I know her from the Alec Baldwin movie where he was her stepdad and he was having an affair with her. Movie was that Minnie's first time and has Jeff Goldblum in it. And Jeff Goldblum is weirdly attracted to her and she's under. Well, she's like supposed to be 16 in the movie and her mom is the one from the Matrix. Who's the woman in the Matrix?

Trisha Paytas (135:06)

Moses likes the Matrix?

Moses Hacmon (135:07)

No, Carrie Moss. That sounds right. I don't know. Anyways, it's a good movie. Hypomatic.

Trisha Paytas (135:14)

But I know her as Rosalie from Twilight. You saw 13. Did you see.

Moses Hacmon (135:20)

No, but I kind of know what.

Trisha Paytas (135:21)

It is that when she has the piercing in her. I know the. The COVID is kind of iconic. It sounds like something you would have liked back. Like in your Wild Girl era.

Moses Hacmon (135:30)

Yes. Because who else is in. It's Nikki Reed. Another famous girl, right?

Trisha Paytas (135:32)

Yes. And she. Nikki reads like the bad influence on the other girl. And they're like teenagers and the other.

Moses Hacmon (135:36)

Girl write it because it's something like they were both really.

Trisha Paytas (135:39)

Yeah, yeah, whatever. That's not even the point. Anyway, maybe she'll inspire you. She said on a podcast that she wears the same clothes every day. She's worn the same clothes for the last. Every day for the last 15 years.

Moses Hacmon (135:52)

I don't know because even just by washing it that much, it'd be like little strings.

Trisha Paytas (135:56)

She said I've got vin vintage pants on and they've got a bunch of holes. And if I were to turn around and show you my butt pockets, you would see that my mom helps me patch the back of them because I would wear the same pants. I'm wearing the same shoes right now that I've worn for 15 years. I just got them resold. Like fix the sole on the shoe. I resole them every three years because I wear the same shoes every day. She said that she wants to. She tries to keep things for an entire lifetime before she purchase any purchase, anything at all. She said, I think about where it's made, how it's made and how long I'm going to wear it.

Moses Hacmon (136:28)

Did you research this? Did you look at pop. Paparazzi photos of her?

Trisha Paytas (136:31)

Well, ironically, I like went to Getty Images and she does has an events where she wears different things. Maybe she's just talking about normal life and not like red carpets.

Moses Hacmon (136:39)

Okay. I mean I have shorts I guess from 20 years ago. That's what we're talking about. But.

Trisha Paytas (136:42)

But she wears the same pants every Day and the same. And the same shoes every day. That's what she says.

Moses Hacmon (136:49)

According to Nikki on what podcast.

Trisha Paytas (136:52)

Which podcast was. Oh, the The Art of being well with Dr. Will Cole Hole.

Moses Hacmon (136:57)

Never heard of it.

Trisha Paytas (136:58)

I don't know if I trust it. Well, in this podcast I always. I'm like, I don't know.

Moses Hacmon (137:02)

Wait, why?

Trisha Paytas (137:03)

Because they say stuff like this that doesn't really make sense.

Moses Hacmon (137:05)

Right, right, right, right. What else is like a wellness. It's like Jay Shetty's like a wellness podcast.

Trisha Paytas (137:09)

Oh, I guess so.

Moses Hacmon (137:10)

Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if I trust. I like Jay Chetty, but don't buy it. I feel like sometimes people. It's like Tyra. It's like me. Sometimes you just say stuff to be out of pocket. I think it's just like a shock value. But it's like, not true.

Trisha Paytas (137:23)

She says she doesn't consider herself a Hollywood actress anymore. She said, it's been so long. I really am a nature gal and an animal gal. I would much rather be barefoot walking through soil than in high heels anywhere.

Moses Hacmon (137:34)

Oh, I love that. I'm not like other girls. I like sports.

Trisha Paytas (137:38)

You and your. Your composting vegetation era.

Moses Hacmon (137:42)

I'm gonna get back to that. Oh, yeah. Cuz Pamela Anderson is another one who likes to be in the garden. And I'm like, one day I'm gonna be in that era where I'm just like, like in the garden.

Trisha Paytas (137:49)

I didn't love your gardening era.

Moses Hacmon (137:51)

I would love it too. Too dirty. Too much dirt.

Trisha Paytas (137:54)

You were so good at it though, from the video.

Moses Hacmon (137:58)

Yeah, that was fake. I love it.

Trisha Paytas (138:02)

I could. You were just like, in the beginning, Liz. She did a garden tour, everybody. For context. And no, not a lot of people saw it. It is a sleeper hit.

Moses Hacmon (138:09)

And really, how many views? Like 30,000.

Trisha Paytas (138:11)

Yeah, like 30,000.

Moses Hacmon (138:13)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (138:14)

Was in your ironically Twilight cosplay. And you opened up in the garden with a watering can and you were just like flinging that water. I'm like, I know that thing is empty. I know that.

Moses Hacmon (138:24)

Was there no water in the can?

Trisha Paytas (138:25)

No. You were like flinging it around so willy nilly, you did end up filling it up and watering the garden.

Moses Hacmon (138:30)

I was like, I would have put at least some water to make it.

Trisha Paytas (138:32)

Look realistic at the end.

Moses Hacmon (138:33)

Was it the green? Was it the turquoise one?

Trisha Paytas (138:35)

Yeah, the big one.

Moses Hacmon (138:36)

I love that one.

Trisha Paytas (138:37)

And then he went around trying all the little vegetables.

Moses Hacmon (138:41)

With bugs on them. Yes, there was a bug. There's always bugs on them.

Trisha Paytas (138:45)

There's always. Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (138:46)

Do we still have those Vegetables or now the animals get them.

Oscar (138:48)

Which one of them?

Moses Hacmon (138:49)

The garden.

Oscar (138:50)

We have some tomatoes right now.

Moses Hacmon (138:52)

We should go out right now and see what's out there, because we haven't been in the garden in so long. Like, what's out there?

Oscar (138:57)

You think it's tomatoes?

Moses Hacmon (138:59)

Tomato. We can make tomato sauce.

Oscar (139:00)

Yeah. The little ones are so sweet.

Trisha Paytas (139:02)

Yeah. You ate them. You kept calling them tomatoes, though.

Moses Hacmon (139:05)

British era. I love a tomato triggered. Right. You're set off by it. We should go out there, try and garden again.

Oscar (139:18)

I'm slowly going back to it.

Trisha Paytas (139:21)

You should try wearing your Fashion Nova every day for 15 years.

Oscar (139:26)

I don't think it will last.

Moses Hacmon (139:28)

Okay, everybody, I know we're not sponsored by Fashion Nova anymore, but nobody makes anything else in my size. If someone thinks sustainable was in my size, I would wear it, but they don't make it that way. So fast fashion. It is for the fatties. That's it.

Trisha Paytas (139:44)

Oh, my God. I wish.

Moses Hacmon (139:45)

I wish I could wear sustainable. I wish I could wear 15 clothes. 15 year clothing.

Oscar (139:49)

I mean, if you take the S out of fast fashion.

Moses Hacmon (139:54)

God. Diabolic. My God. Wow. What? That's the new. That's a good.

Trisha Paytas (140:06)

Oh, that could be a clothing line. That's a good.

Moses Hacmon (140:09)

That could be your clothing line.

Trisha Paytas (140:10)

That could be a clothing line. Like baby fat fat fashion.

Moses Hacmon (140:12)

But it's just fat fat fashion. I love it.

Trisha Paytas (140:15)

No, it's not just fat. It's fat fashion.

Moses Hacmon (140:16)

Just fat is good, though. Like just Trish. Oh, sh. Just fat.

Trisha Paytas (140:20)

Cuz after your Sydney Sweeney Jean ad that you did here, everyone was like, if she did. If she did her own jeans, everyone was like, I. I would buy jeans if Trisha did it. So maybe you try to do it yourself, period. You always.

Oscar (140:31)

You always wanted to do the 2000.

Moses Hacmon (140:33)

I know. That was always my thing. Okay. When I bring back sad boy, I'll bring back some jeans. The just fat line.

Trisha Paytas (140:38)

Yeah. I love it.

Moses Hacmon (140:42)

Okay. It's hard to. Trademark copyrights are so. Or trademarks are so hard. Takes you so long because it's like there's different categories and then you have to see if anyone has something similar to it.

Trisha Paytas (140:52)

Oh, yeah. Very Jaclyn Hill tease. We'll just say. I'm gonna Google it just in case.

Moses Hacmon (140:56)

Just fat. Well, maybe we should put it out there if we're gonna use it.

Trisha Paytas (140:59)

Maybe we can just say that we're gonna use. I get like. Because if, you know, like, legally, if it's associated with someone already, they can't give that trademark away. So it's a so it's associated officially.

Moses Hacmon (141:10)

What's Today's date on 8? August 6, 2025. We have coined just fat to be the just Trish spin off.

Trisha Paytas (141:17)

And I googled it and nothing is coming up.

Moses Hacmon (141:19)

I mean that is a horrible name.

Trisha Paytas (141:21)

No, I think it's amazing.

Moses Hacmon (141:23)

Do you want to buy something from Just Fat? I like it. Just wear it on your shirt like fat fat.

Trisha Paytas (141:30)

There is a YouTube video that comes up that says you're not ugly, just fat.

Moses Hacmon (141:34)

Is it me?

Trisha Paytas (141:35)

No, it's like a life coach or something.

Moses Hacmon (141:37)

Okay, life coaching. Start life coaching.

Trisha Paytas (141:39)

You're not ugly, you just pass. Okay.

Moses Hacmon (141:41)

I've seen people say like you're not ugly, you're just poor or something. Cuz you know you can get like a facial and stuff but you're just fat as crazy. It's like well two things can be true, but okay, just fat.

Trisha Paytas (141:52)

And then my other quickie was did you see Brandy Glanville? I you did Celebrity Big Brother with her. I am a little worried. She talked about how she put Nair on her face to give herself like an at home chemical peel because she believes she has a parasite living in her face and that it, it helps treat that parasite. It's really crazy. And then she just like the burns on her face look so bad.

Moses Hacmon (142:16)

I know, I saw it.

Trisha Paytas (142:17)

I was worried for her.

Moses Hacmon (142:18)

What did she say? Has she said anything like sense? Is she like because did Nara say something like don't blame us? Like what the hell?

Trisha Paytas (142:24)

Well she said she released her own statement saying like you guys don't blame Nair. Like I am using this incorrectly. I know I'm using this incorrectly. Yeah. So.

Moses Hacmon (142:32)

Well how is she using incorrectly for the parasite?

Trisha Paytas (142:34)

Yeah, like she, she was trying, she wasn't trying to like get rid of hair within there. She literally was just trying to give herself like an at home like chemical peel because she believes it's like helps treat the parasite.

Moses Hacmon (142:47)

But she doesn't know for sure there's a parasite.

Trisha Paytas (142:48)

She doesn't know for sure that there's a parasite living in her. It's very, it's an odd thing. Like she believes that when she was on one of this Bravo show they went on a the Real Housewives ultimate girls trip trip. She believes that they let had this food left out for so long as she ate it and that that gave her like a parasite that is in her face. Cuz she's dealt with like she feels like these nodules in her face and she thinks that she feels it like moving around in her face and she'll have, like, her parts of her face swell up and then sag. But she's seen a lot of doctors, and they said. No, she. She gets that. She has seen a lot of doctors. She even went on with Dr. Dubrow, who's on botched.

Moses Hacmon (143:36)

Yes.

Trisha Paytas (143:36)

She even, like, went with him, who did, like, biopsies, and. But they start the treatments, but then they never say, like, what the results of the biopsies or anything is. So it's odd because she keeps meeting with different specialists, but then nothing ends up. So she hasn't been, like, diagnosed, particularly with anything.

Moses Hacmon (143:55)

So she's trying to get something that no one can find.

Trisha Paytas (143:57)

Exactly. Yeah. Because she's been. She said she spent $70,000 seeking these different treatments for, like, the past, like, two years.

Moses Hacmon (144:05)

Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh.

Trisha Paytas (144:06)

And she says that she's, like, run out of money to even, like, keep pursuing different treatments, hence the Nair at home.

Moses Hacmon (144:13)

Oh, my gosh. That's so scary on lots of levels. Obviously. She's burning her face once again, like a mental health sort of thing. Like, you know, I, I. Because didn't she try to sue Andy Cohen?

Trisha Paytas (144:25)

She was trying to sue Bravo. Over all this. Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (144:28)

For the parasite or for sexual harassment or something.

Trisha Paytas (144:30)

She was getting. She got fired from that show over claims of sexual harassment from another one of the housewives. It was a whole, like, debacle.

Moses Hacmon (144:40)

And. But did she. Am I getting this wrong? Did she not sue Annie Cohen for sexual harassment?

Trisha Paytas (144:44)

I think she was also trying to sue him as well. Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (144:46)

I mean, there's a lot happening. I don't know. I don't know on this one, because maybe that triggered her to maybe get a little. You know.

Trisha Paytas (144:54)

I know. It's so. Because it is weird. Like, Dr. Dubrow did do, like, interview with TMZ after he took on Brandy as a client and said, like, there are things that it can be, like, some kind of, like, bacterial thing or bacterial infections that are hard to treat. And then he did do the biopsies, but then, like, nothing was ever said after the biopsy.

Moses Hacmon (145:13)

Cheese. Right.

Trisha Paytas (145:14)

And now she is seeking treatment with another specialist currently. So it is hard. Like, it. I don't doubt her that there probably is something, like, medically in her face.

Moses Hacmon (145:23)

That'S like, of course, if you can see it.

Trisha Paytas (145:25)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (145:26)

But if no one can find it or diagnose it, and you're just so hard, treating yourself is, like, so scary. Especially, like, things that can burn your skin.

Trisha Paytas (145:32)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (145:33)

Why did she post it? Or where did she post it?

Trisha Paytas (145:35)

She did A tick tock. Yeah, it was kind of like a. It was giving like life hack vibes. And then that's why she did the follow up. Like, I'm using this wrong. Don't. Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (145:45)

Oh. So she's like, here's what I'm doing, but don't do it, basically.

Trisha Paytas (145:48)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (145:49)

Oh, no. Yeah. I just hope she's, you know. Well, that is like a fear is like getting older and like her kids are older and she doesn't have anyone with her. And it's like, I hope she's just like. Okay. Because, you know, that's a little. It's a little out of pocket to do that, right?

Trisha Paytas (146:07)

Yeah. And then it just looks so pain.

Moses Hacmon (146:09)

Like painful.

Trisha Paytas (146:10)

And like the burn was just like. It was such a bad reaction on her skin too.

Moses Hacmon (146:15)

Yeah. Those chemical peels can go wrong, especially if you're not trained to do that.

Trisha Paytas (146:20)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (146:21)

Well, hopefully it heals or does what she wants.

Trisha Paytas (146:23)

I know. You know, wishing her well because I mean, it just looks.

Moses Hacmon (146:27)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (146:27)

So painful.

Moses Hacmon (146:28)

I saw that too. I was like, oh, yeah, that's so scary. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (146:30)

Oh, and this for clarity too. The ca. The lawsuit that she was trying to file against Andy Cohen was dropped. Like the lawyers that were working with her dropped it because I guess there just wasn't enough there to do a case. Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (146:45)

So I'm saying I feel like she's maybe gone. Yeah. She maybe had a little spiral from something maybe like, you know.

Trisha Paytas (146:52)

Yeah. If. Even if like, she is having, like the. That and like, face, like when you have that kind of untreatable sickness too, like that can definitely, you know, send you to go. Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (147:05)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (147:06)

Especially if you feel like it's. She thinks it's in her opinion. Thinks there's something alive in her face that's like living in there.

Moses Hacmon (147:12)

Yeah. That's really, really sad.

Trisha Paytas (147:13)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (147:14)

She was always really sweet. I really liked her. But yeah. The stuff from the past, like five or six years. I don't know.

Trisha Paytas (147:19)

I know. I hope she ends up being able to treat it, though, because it is scary. Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (147:25)

So worse than when no one can help you either. If there's like, you go to all these doctors and no one knows what it is.

Trisha Paytas (147:28)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (147:29)

Then you're really like, what the hell? Be safe out there. If you have a parasite in your face.

Trisha Paytas (147:35)

And then we can end on the influencer relationship news.

Moses Hacmon (147:40)

What is this one?

Trisha Paytas (147:40)

Oh, I mean, nothing crazy. Bretman Rock and his boyfriend.

Moses Hacmon (147:44)

Oh, this is like a segment.

Trisha Paytas (147:45)

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Moses Hacmon (147:47)

I don't know. You're building up to something what influencers are together? Bretman Rock is single again.

Trisha Paytas (147:53)

Yes. Bretman Rock and Justice Fester broke up, and they were together for a year. I don't know.

Moses Hacmon (148:00)

I felt.

Trisha Paytas (148:01)

I mean, Bretman said, like, he was so chill about his. Like, we're friends.

Moses Hacmon (148:03)

Like, he was so calming on myself.

Trisha Paytas (148:05)

Yes. And that it was mutual, but I was kind of sad. I don't know. I like them together, even though I just, like, am a passive. Like, I see him on Instagram and, like, they just, like, look very cute together. So no.

Moses Hacmon (148:15)

Breakups are devastating. And then. Yes. Which is like, Bretman and his guy. Because they are, like, like you said, they're equally matched in terms of hotness.

Trisha Paytas (148:21)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (148:22)

They seem sweet. And you're like, you know, you share. You share the relationship online, and you're like, oh, you root for them so much. I get so parasocial. Like, I. I don't recommend sharing your relationship online because I get parasocial. I get really, like, set and then really nosy. One of my favorite influencers just announced her breakup, and her name's Sarai. Her name was Crazy Ray. Ray. I used to watch her. Oh, my God. Yeah, the, like, pizza ranch and cherry Coke. Like, yeah. Her and Jalen just broke up, and they've been together, like, longer than me and Moses, like, seven and eight years. They had a baby together. They actually had two babies together. They lost one of their babies, their first pregnancy, and then they had another son. And it's so cute, and they've been so cute. They create family content together. And she's like, guys, just so you know, me and Jalen are all together, and I was like, respect the privacy. But also, girl, what? Like, you guys were perfect. Seven years together, like, created content together, and no explanation. So then, of course, everyone speculates. So then I go down the hole, like, well, it must have been. You just think the worst.

Trisha Paytas (149:19)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (149:19)

Because you're like, what do you mean? You have a baby together. Like, what do you mean? And relatively young, too. So. I know. I always want to know. Especially because they didn't do a mutual statement. Like, well, did Bretman do it mutual with his or. No, he.

Trisha Paytas (149:31)

A joint did it on his own, but said that it was, like, a mutual. A mutual thing. He said it was a mutual breakup. It was amicable. There was one thing I want to get. There's one thing I want to get out of the way. We are still friends. We still have a love for each other, which.

Moses Hacmon (149:45)

The generic.

Trisha Paytas (149:47)

Yeah. And it's always sucked because, like, I don't know, it just doesn't. And it's so like, it's so parasocial because you want to know what you're saying.

Moses Hacmon (149:55)

You can't just show us your perfect life for seven years and not give us some sort of closure. You know, he said if we're really.

Trisha Paytas (150:03)

Meant for each other, then we'll find each other again.

Moses Hacmon (150:04)

Again. A. I know.

Trisha Paytas (150:07)

So sweet. I know. And their story was also. I mean this is what Palmer like their, their, their story was kind of cute cuz they had like met like year like I think six years prior. Like before they got together they like had like a little meet cute like at a club and he talked about this on like on Quinn Blackwell's show channel how they first met like at a club and he like Bretman put like lip gloss on and then justice was like well now how you're making me insecure, Making me feel like my lips are dry. So then Bretman like kissed him to get like the lip gloss on him.

Moses Hacmon (150:43)

When they met that six years ago. Oh my God.

Trisha Paytas (150:45)

And then he. They had like mutuals or whatever and then Bretman was going to pursue him but then he found out justice was kind of talking to someone so he like let it go brew like that because girls like us, I feel like back then. You know what I mean?

Moses Hacmon (151:01)

No, you're not married. What? Like. Yeah, like no, people say that when they. Oh, he had a boyfriend. So I let them go. I was like wow.

Trisha Paytas (151:08)

Respectful. So much. Yeah, so much so like I think Bretman is just, he, you know, he says like yes, I am the baddie, like the baddest. And he really is because he can be like I can go find someone else, whatever, like no big deal. And then anyway like so I was like six and then five years later. Yeah, cuz they've been together a year. So five years later he had just stumbled upon justice on like the TikTok. On TikTok and then followed him and then saw that justice had been trying to like get with him for like years and he just saw it when he followed. Yeah. So it's a cute lore.

Moses Hacmon (151:38)

So what happened?

Trisha Paytas (151:42)

Well, Bremen did say he is requesting privacy and said to not point the finger at anybody.

Moses Hacmon (151:47)

No, you can't.

Trisha Paytas (151:49)

You're denying his request.

Moses Hacmon (151:51)

Request privacy. I know. I watched Gigi's divorce video too and she said the same thing. She was, I was always like, no, you don't get privacy. And she's. Now I finally understand what they mean. No, I reject it. No, I just think it's like, so. And I guess that's, like, the problem. And look, I'm, like, guilty of it, right? Because obviously I put every relationship online, but, like, we have to. I mean, if we. If we break up, I. Oh, I owe a whole podcast episode to it. You know what I mean? It's just like, several. Several. Probably Moses here, too, because one, he'll probably be still living here, but also, you know what I mean? It's just like. No, no, no. I know. Well, a year, I guess it's not too bad when you think about. It's like, okay, you just lost.

Oscar (152:35)

True.

Trisha Paytas (152:36)

It is. Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (152:37)

But, like, again, like a Gigi or nas. They're together 10 years. You're like, what the hell happened, everybody?

Trisha Paytas (152:41)

Yeah, I guess that is kind of a normal. Like, yeah, you.

Moses Hacmon (152:44)

You know, if you want someone or not.

Trisha Paytas (152:46)

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Moses Hacmon (152:47)

But 10 years and a marriage and a baby. And also, you're just like, yeah.

Trisha Paytas (152:50)

Although there are some people being very uncouth and being like, oh, now Bretman's trade is free. So, like, I want to go. I'm like, you guys, relax.

Moses Hacmon (152:57)

What is free trade?

Trisha Paytas (152:58)

Because just, you know.

Moses Hacmon (153:00)

Oh, the train.

Trisha Paytas (153:01)

Okay, so now.

Moses Hacmon (153:03)

Wait, what?

Trisha Paytas (153:04)

That's what everyone's saying. I guess I've been a little anti. I love gay Twitter, but sometimes gay Twitter's a little uncouth.

Moses Hacmon (153:10)

So I love my gays, too. You gotta get ready for the trade. As I got it.

Trisha Paytas (153:15)

Yeah, got it, got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Moses Hacmon (153:16)

Cause you don't get ready for the trade anymore.

Trisha Paytas (153:18)

No, I don't think I. I don't know if I ever really got ready for the trade. Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (153:23)

Some people put, like, their wigs on for the trade.

Trisha Paytas (153:24)

I never got ready for the trade. Yeah, No, I don't think so.

Moses Hacmon (153:27)

Just as is. Come as you are.

Trisha Paytas (153:31)

But I'm like, you know, have some. Have a little class, you guys. You know, he just happens.

Moses Hacmon (153:36)

The Internet has no class. As we see. No, they do that as soon as someone's single. Oh, she's single now. Time to get on it. I was like, what?

Trisha Paytas (153:44)

Like, yeah, let them heal. Let him heal. But, yeah, I mean, Bretman is ultimate catch, though, so can get anybody, but we'll see.

Moses Hacmon (153:54)

Maybe they'll be on each other.

Trisha Paytas (153:54)

Who knows?

Moses Hacmon (153:55)

Yeah, yeah, he should have dangerous. I'm not Harry Jowsey.

Trisha Paytas (153:57)

Oh, my God.

Moses Hacmon (153:59)

Would be so good.

Trisha Paytas (154:00)

So right about that, right?

Moses Hacmon (154:03)

I would watch it, like, on his island and just like, oh, my God.

Trisha Paytas (154:08)

We need to pitch that.

Moses Hacmon (154:09)

Get on it. Call Alex Cooper on. Well, network just fat but we have only fats on it. I love it. There's no more fat people left, though. That's just me. Okay, that is crazy. What a dying breed. We are the fats. Even Molly or Molly McCarthy on only murders was like. I was like, all right. Damn, your whole career is that. And then it's just. Yeah. Okay. Well, so far, no fat jokes on Gilmore Girls about Suki.

Trisha Paytas (154:46)

Oh, yeah, I don't think so.

Moses Hacmon (154:48)

She's a baker or, like, a chef or something.

Trisha Paytas (154:51)

But I haven't.

Moses Hacmon (154:52)

We've only watched two episodes, so, I.

Trisha Paytas (154:53)

Mean, I haven't seen it literally since it was on the air, but I don't remember any of that.

Moses Hacmon (154:58)

How old are you? Has been two.

Trisha Paytas (154:59)

I was really young. Why you didn't start?

Moses Hacmon (155:03)

I think 2000. I looked it up because, like, when was it?

Trisha Paytas (155:06)

I know me. My mom will watch it.

Moses Hacmon (155:08)

How old were you? How. When were you born? 94.

Trisha Paytas (155:10)

92.

Moses Hacmon (155:10)

Oh, she would have been, like, eight.

Trisha Paytas (155:12)

Yeah.

Moses Hacmon (155:12)

Okay, that makes sense.

Trisha Paytas (155:13)

2000 to 2007. Yeah. Maybe I wasn't watching season one, but I definitely was watching at some point.

Moses Hacmon (155:18)

It's not a long time. I would love a reboot. I want to be on it so bad, especially if it shoots at Warner Brothers. Yeah, I love a Warner Brothers.

Trisha Paytas (155:23)

That's a fun long a lot.

Moses Hacmon (155:24)

I wonder if they have the Star House.

Trisha Paytas (155:27)

They definitely have the. Isn't there, like, a little gazebo? Yes, that's where everyone. They always have events there.

Moses Hacmon (155:35)

Really?

Trisha Paytas (155:35)

They have, like, Gilmore Girls events there in the fall.

Moses Hacmon (155:38)

What? Yeah, that's my new fall activity. All right, well, Gilmore, the second half.

Trisha Paytas (155:45)

Of that quickly was just the Tara Yummy and Jake Weber update. Jake had to issue a statement because everyone was speculating so, so hard. There was a photo from Tarami's birthday party that I definitely was at as well. And I love spreading the lies that I'm just at these things. There's a photo from Tarami's birthday party. It was Jake, Kenzie, Jake's current girlfriend, and Tara. But in the photo, Tara and Jake are looking at or into each other's eyes, and then Kenzie's in the middle.

Moses Hacmon (156:14)

That was a crazy photo. Like, matches at the secular. I know. Like, almost 40. That photo was kind of crazy. Who posted that? Because that person should be the diabolical one being pointed out.

Trisha Paytas (156:27)

I forgot who posted it, I think. Was it Tara's photo dump or Jake's?

Moses Hacmon (156:30)

Oh, one of them posted it, I think.

Trisha Paytas (156:33)

No.

Moses Hacmon (156:36)

No, that's crazy. I thought, like, a friend posted it or something.

Trisha Paytas (156:41)

Can't find the original poster. I found that someone reposted it on, on Tick Tock.

Moses Hacmon (156:45)

Someone probably deleted it, right? That's crazy.

Trisha Paytas (156:51)

Why did I not think it was that crazy?

Moses Hacmon (156:53)

You didn't think it was that crazy?

Trisha Paytas (156:54)

I didn't think it was that. I think just knowing like Tara and Jake and Kenzie's honest vibe, honestly, that like, I'm like, that's just, that's just them. I don't know.

Moses Hacmon (157:02)

No, that's crazy because I just think I always put myself into it. Like if that's me and Moses and like him and another girl is connecting and smiling like that, I'd be like, like, I, I, I, I, I couldn't, I couldn't. Let me see if it's on hers. Did you go to their Instagram?

Trisha Paytas (157:18)

Yeah, I'm on, I'm on Tara's right now. She has so many photos in her dump. Maybe. Oh, I feel like it must have been the cobra snake and like, because that cobra snake was the photographer for the party. You know the cobra snake?

Moses Hacmon (157:29)

Oh, no.

Trisha Paytas (157:29)

Oh, he's like a. Since I was in high school, he's like that old. No offense, but when I was, he was like the Valley, like, cool kid, like photographer.

Moses Hacmon (157:37)

Oh. Like the people who do like club.

Trisha Paytas (157:39)

Photos and stuff like that. But once I was in high school, he was like the. So it's very odd. Oh my God.

Moses Hacmon (157:43)

That is weird. He's vintage now.

Trisha Paytas (157:45)

It must have been him that posted it because he was the photographer.

Moses Hacmon (157:48)

The photographers. It's like when Gabbie Hanna's like, supposed alleged wedding photos were leaked. It was the photographer who did it. The photographer is their sus. Damn. Gotta get that approval first.

Trisha Paytas (157:58)

Check my theory maybe. Allegedly. It sounds correct though. Correct. Yes. The cobra snake posted.

Moses Hacmon (158:06)

No.

Trisha Paytas (158:07)

Why did he just post it? Like, I think just all the photos he took probably. I mean, maybe he does. Cobra snake doesn't know the lore. You know, I can't really blame him for that. That's kind of. He had to be kind of in the weeds, I suppose.

Moses Hacmon (158:18)

Maybe. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. What did Jake say?

Trisha Paytas (158:23)

He, he had to post like a tick. I think it was a tick tock story where it's like, I'm gonna just paraphrase, but it was like you only see 1% of. Of my whole entire life. So why are you coming to these conclusions or whatever? Because everyone was kind of like, oh, this like very much your sentiment of this is crazy. Like Kenzie, get up. Or people were then some people being mean to Kenzie like, why Kenzie one day is gonna wake up and see that she shouldn't have been treated like this. Blah, blah, blah.

Moses Hacmon (158:47)

Right, right, right.

Trisha Paytas (158:49)

I used to have that mentality, but now I think I just like, that's just so tar. I don't know. It's just so them that I, I'm like, to me it's kind of almost normalized and I'm like, oh, this, this works for them. I don't know. And you only you. To Jake's point, you do only see the stuff that they choose to like put out there. So again, this could be like a big.

Moses Hacmon (159:07)

They didn't choose to put out there. Someone else did. They got caught.

Trisha Paytas (159:12)

They're like, you gagged me with that. You gagged me with that.

Moses Hacmon (159:17)

I think it's actually more empowering if they post and like, we're besties.

Trisha Paytas (159:20)

Ken's supposed to.

Moses Hacmon (159:22)

Right. Love the trio is here, you know, But I do love them both. I love whatever works. Like if they do want to be besties. But that, that picture was diabolical. And that picture alone to me.

Trisha Paytas (159:39)

And also the photo is so tough because it like, it could be such like a, just like one literally a second maybe like for Tara was talking to him for a second and the cobra snake took that photo, you know, but.

Moses Hacmon (159:49)

But it was, it wasn't a, A mid talk. It was a like just gazing me.

Trisha Paytas (159:56)

Saying, so hard to be the defense attorney here.

Moses Hacmon (159:59)

I don't want to be because that is annoying when people are like, oh, he, if Moses. Oh, he despised everything. She's disgusting. Like, it is annoying. But look, if it's not true, you know it's not true, then you don't have to be defensive about it. You know what I mean? Because I do. See once in a while they'll be like, Moses is going to leave Trisha. He's discussed about it, whatever. And obviously when he knows something's not true, you don't have to be like, defensive. I used to get defensive because at the beginning relationship I wasn't sure. I was like, yeah, oh my God, maybe he does hate me. But I think if it's not, if there's not a little bit of truth there, you know what I mean? Like, I don't know if you should acknowledge it at all because they always say they don't care. They're not bothered. And I love Jake, but my advice to you is if you're not bothered to not feed into the trolls, as they say. Yeah, but I mean just, you know, just a mom over here, you know.

Trisha Paytas (160:40)

But to me, yeah, I guess. Like what clearly they're fine with like Kenzie especially is fine with it because she still is hanging out. Like she's still friends with Tara, she hangs out with, you know, they all go to parties together. They. Kenzie's always at a taremi party so that she has to be fine with it. And also it's like there's some things I don't understand. Like there's gays that are in open relationships that have been like, are married and been open relationship for like a really long time and that like works for them.

Moses Hacmon (161:06)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (161:06)

But like even if I don't fully understand, I'm like, oh, you're married. But also I'm like, but you do you. You know what I mean?

Moses Hacmon (161:12)

But I think they're in an open relationship.

Trisha Paytas (161:13)

I don't, I'm not, I'm just like, I just. There's some like, you know, relationships I don't necessarily understand myself, but I'm like, I'm not gonna yuck your yum. You know, I'm not gonna yuck your Atari yummy.

Moses Hacmon (161:24)

Oh, I love that. Yuck your tar yum. Yeah. I don't know, I think even if the girlfriend's totally fine with it, I do think on the boyfriend's end there should be like a respectful boundary of just like do you have to go to every one of your ex girlfriend's parties? I know you're besties, but maybe just the night of us, you know, I don't know.

Trisha Paytas (161:41)

But I think that's Jake's point though is that they probably do have a lot of those nights. But they're not just, you know, posting.

Moses Hacmon (161:46)

You have to go to like every event that your ex girlfriend.

Trisha Paytas (161:48)

But the, the tar yummy birthday party, like that's true.

Moses Hacmon (161:52)

I don't know why I'm being a hater. You're right. Do whatever. Honestly, my insecure never handle it. Moses gazing someone over me, I'd be like, oh, wow.

Trisha Paytas (162:01)

I couldn't handle it either. I'm not saying I would, you know, be strong enough to do that, but I. I applaud Kenzie for being the kind of girl that I could never be. You know, she's a better woman than I.

Moses Hacmon (162:09)

Damn.

Trisha Paytas (162:10)

And I also, I love Kenzie and Tara, so. I mean, Jake too, obviously, but you know, I love a girly. And Kenzie and Tara, just so cool.

Moses Hacmon (162:18)

I love all three of them too. I met Kenzie in person. I like her too.

Trisha Paytas (162:22)

So like the most. She's also just I mean, they're both like the prettiest girls ever. So I'm like. And they did that one Tick Tock together. So the Charlie XCX song. And I'm like, I just love my queens. But I get why people would like. I get the reaction. But I guess it's also just their brand to be cool girls.

Moses Hacmon (162:40)

And it's obviously getting to them if Jake's making a statement or if they're always to defend themselves. So here's an idea. Let's just be a little separate, you know what I mean? Like, give a little break. You and Jake and John, Jake and Johnny took a little break. Just give a little break.

Trisha Paytas (162:51)

But then he also was like, you guys, there was another thing he posted where it was like we said that he was basically implying like, you know, we said that we were going to be friends and now you're mad that we're the only couple that are actually doing what we said and like, are staying friends or whatever.

Moses Hacmon (163:03)

But again, there's friends that you can just be from, you know, once in a while. And there's friends that are always together, buying each other cars and gazing at each other and referencing each other and ever, you know, like, you know what I mean? Like, it's like, yeah, friends is cute. You say hi once in a while, you know, But I mean, look at.

Trisha Paytas (163:19)

Daniel Peretta and Joey Graceffa.

Moses Hacmon (163:20)

They're still, you know, you know, again, cute, respectful. They're not like cuddling up and stuff like that. You know what I mean? Joey has like.

Trisha Paytas (163:26)

Well, they did that one TikTok together that you thought that was one.

Moses Hacmon (163:29)

And I think you want TikTok cute buying a car for your ex girlfriend. Diabolical. But anyways, what do I know? I love Jake and Johnny and Tara. Tara and Kansas. Tara. Tara. And I love Tara. Sorry. There is a Tara in my life that hates being called Tara. And I get. I really do. And I know Tara hates being called Tara. So I. That's. That's hard. Yeah. Anyways, I don't know. Kenzie's the real mvp. Honestly, like you said, she's strong. I was like, girl, you could take anything you. If you're. If you're that secure, you could take on anything in that relationship. So like, that's good for you. Because I'm so insecure where I could literally.

Trisha Paytas (164:03)

And who knows, maybe Tara could very well could have like a secret boyfriend. And that boyfriend is also very strong. Right? Like, she could very well be. But she always has guys. Like, she has so many guy Friends that, like, she's always with Rob from Love Island.

Moses Hacmon (164:17)

Maybe that's her secret boyfriend.

Trisha Paytas (164:18)

Exactly.

Moses Hacmon (164:19)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (164:20)

But I guess we just never. So again, kudos to whoever. If she's with someone, then, you know.

Moses Hacmon (164:26)

It'S like we just made that up. It's a very.

Trisha Paytas (164:29)

I love me being a defense attorney. Like, she very well could have her own secret boyfriend.

Moses Hacmon (164:33)

I do. Because I know it is annoying to, like, have everyone a speculating relationship, but then day you put it out there, just like I put. I put out Aquaman. Okay. That's his name. He's getting criticism. That's what it is. You just gotta go with it, I guess.

Trisha Paytas (164:46)

Oh, my God.

Moses Hacmon (164:47)

Yeah. Well, come back on the podcast. Honestly.

Trisha Paytas (164:51)

T and Kenzie.

Moses Hacmon (164:52)

Let's love Kenzie. Come on.

Trisha Paytas (164:54)

Oh, my God. They can set the record straight.

Moses Hacmon (164:57)

Yes. She would talk. Nothing about it. They're like, the least drama of anybody. Damn. But we like to dream.

Trisha Paytas (165:05)

Yeah. I would love the invite to the next Tariyami party.

Moses Hacmon (165:08)

Where'd you go?

Trisha Paytas (165:10)

Yes. Because think of it. That's why I'm not gonna get the invite.

Moses Hacmon (165:13)

I know, I know. Like, oh, look at this picture.

Oscar (165:15)

I'd rather go and recreate it with Darien.

Trisha Paytas (165:18)

Me, Darian.

Oscar (165:20)

You and Tara. Look at each other.

Trisha Paytas (165:22)

Oh, me, Tara, Darian.

Moses Hacmon (165:23)

Oh, that's a good one.

Trisha Paytas (165:24)

That's a good idea.

Moses Hacmon (165:25)

Who and me most recreate? I don't want to think about it. It makes me insecure even thinking about it. Don't even say it. I don't want that. Feels weird. Nobody. Because we just love each other and don't look at anyone else.

Trisha Paytas (165:41)

Except that one. Will Pierce.

Moses Hacmon (165:44)

Who's that?

Trisha Paytas (165:45)

Wasn't that his name? That guy from Too Much that you just said was your crush at the moment?

Moses Hacmon (165:48)

Oh, is that his name?

Trisha Paytas (165:49)

I don't know. Will something. Well, Sharp. Will Sharp.

Moses Hacmon (165:52)

That doesn't sound right either, is it? Okay, love him. Yeah, we'll recreate with that. I don't know. I have no fixations on anyone. I love Moses.

Oscar (166:04)

I love you, too.

Moses Hacmon (166:05)

Okay. Who do you love?

Trisha Paytas (166:08)

Darian.

Moses Hacmon (166:08)

Okay.

Trisha Paytas (166:09)

I was gonna say Ted Nivison. That would have gone.

Moses Hacmon (166:10)

That's crazy. We just talked about this whole thing and that's. You said it quick. At least me, I'm like. Who do I like? I don't know. Say Wilshire. I don't even know if that's his name. No idea. All right, well, let us know who you love in the comments below and we will see you in the next one. No hate anyone involved. We didn't even, like, recap our favorite.

Trisha Paytas (166:33)

Moments, but maybe 220.

Moses Hacmon (166:36)

Yeah. I was gonna ask everyone their fave, but you know what? Here we are, 200. Going strong. Love the pink today. Love the tat boy today. And I dressed up, too, in a little bandage dress for everybody. So we'll see you guys soon. Next week, actually. So love you. Go to the Patreon if you miss us so much. We're gonna do a little Wendy's by Wednesday reaction. Bye. Maybe Muzzle get his baby burger.

Oscar (167:00)

Not.