Jan 08, 2026

Summary

Just Trish Podcast — January 8, 2026 Episode Summary

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Episode Overview

Theme:
Trisha Paytas and co-host Oscar Gracey ring in the new year with their signature blend of unfiltered pop culture commentary, internet drama recaps, and personal anecdotes. This episode dives into viral comebacks, the controversy around canceled (and uncanceled) celebrities, plans for potential political runs, inside industry tea, internet memes, true crime YouTube drama, and more. As always, the vibe is irreverent, playful, occasionally chaotic, and brutally honest.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. New Year Vibes & Oscar’s Big Flex

[00:41–02:34]

• Playful banter about the confusion over the new year, with Trish joking about Oscar wearing pink and his post-holiday glow.
• Oscar shares an industry “flex” — working on a behind-the-scenes Wicked clip featuring Ariana Grande, transforming footage for social media verticals.
  • Notable: The scene included Ariana doing her own stunts and loving the physical comedy element.

Quote:

“She had a little devious look in her eye. Like, I could tell she really loved, like, getting all physical. …She’s really good.”
— Oscar Gracey (04:00)

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2. Creative Projects, Improv & the ‘Fluffer Sisters’

[04:12–06:14]

• Oscar and a friend, Jimmy, are developing a physical comedy script for Trisha, riffing on the “Duffer Brothers” as the “Fluffer Sisters.”
• Plans to bring improv coach Meg Salter on the podcast to teach them, with Trisha reflecting on the challenges of improv and her desire to learn.
• Jokes about running for Congress and finding funny angles for sketch ideas as content for Patreon.

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3. Cancelled Influencers & Pop Culture Comebacks

[06:20–09:57]

• Discussion of Shane Dawson’s upcoming feature film "Canceled" and critique of its title.
• Colleen Ballinger (Miranda Sings) posts on TikTok for the first time in three years; the group debates the cultural appetite for canceled creators’ comebacks.
• Trisha’s advice: Some personas (like Miranda Sings) should stay retired, but she doesn’t wish suffering on the real people behind them.

Quote:

“Miranda Sings, however, the character probably needs to just— I mean, she can try. Ned Fulmer tried… But I think we can all agree on that.”
— Trisha Paytas (08:44)

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4. Trisha’s Congress Run: Internet Reactions & Campaign Brainstorms

[10:19–16:46]

• Trisha talks about her viral tease regarding a Congressional run, the unintended virality of her TikTok, and receiving campaign help offers and negative attention.
• Oscar and the crew brainstorm satirical “campaign activations” (photo shoots at the “DL Trade Center,” replacing the California flag’s bear with a large gay man, etc.).
• Lighthearted jokes about convincing California residents to move back for Trisha’s campaign and playful discussion of campaign branding and slogans.

Quote:

“I was getting negativity. I was like, no, I don’t— Like it was not trolling, but, you know.”
— Trisha (10:29)

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5. Trends & Celebrity Collaborations: MrBeast’s Starbucks Drink & More

[18:28–21:46]

• MrBeast teams up with Starbucks for a viral beverage (Cannonball Challenge), which crosses over with “Survivor” in ad campaigns.
• The group debates whether the corporate crossover makes sense for MrBeast’s audience, with Trisha noting the odd color palette.
• Sidebar: James Charles “pinky drink” legacy and TikTok memes discussed.

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6. Vision Boards & Manifesting

[27:21–28:15]

• The crew celebrates vision boarding as a hot self-improvement trend (and makes plans for a Patreon vision board sesh).
• Discussion over Scotch tape vs. glue stick and Target’s low stock suggests vision boarding’s viral popularity.

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7. “Mom Drama” Op-Ed: Ashley Tisdale vs. Hilary Duff’s Circle

[29:48–34:52]

• Recap and commentary on Ashley Tisdale’s viral essay about being excluded by Hollywood “mom groups.”
• Tisdale’s team clarified it wasn't about Meghan Trainor, Hilary Duff, or Mandy Moore.
• Hilary Duff’s husband Matthew Koma posts a meme mocking Tisdale, leading to debate over husbands wading into “girl drama.”
• Reflections on Duff’s long career and unproblematic public persona.

Quote:

“When a man comments about anything womanhood, I’m like, okay, you don’t know what she was going through postpartum, why she left the mom group…”
— Trisha (34:01)

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8. Mini-Segment: Hilary Duff Music Stan Chat

[36:38–41:41]

• Oscar’s nostalgia for Duff’s albums, concert tickets now up to $550, and their mutual love for “Wake Up” and “Our Lips Are Sealed.”
• Trisha recalls Duff’s feuds and career highlights with affection.

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9. Bretman Rock vs. Vanessa Hudgens (and Celebrity “Disappointing Encounters”)

[44:14–47:15]

• Bretman Rock recounts an awkward Coachella run-in with Vanessa Hudgens, leading to jokes about “Coachella Queen” behavior and star delusions.
• Commentary on the perils of podcast prompts about “worst celebrity encounters” and why they often spiral into drama.

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10. "Nepo Babies", Red Carpets & Industry Pipeline

[82:25–93:25]

• Playful but pointed discussion of celebrity “nepo babies” and how networking, not talent, is the hardest part of getting a break.
• The group praises “I Love LA” breakout star True Whitaker (Forest Whitaker’s daughter) for owning her advantage; Oscar and Trish share stories of hustling for fame absent a famous parent.
• The consensus: Acknowledge the privilege and just own it.

Quote:

“Just own it. Don’t be like, ‘I had to work harder.’ No, you didn’t… getting an in, especially in the entertainment industry, that’s the hardest part.”
— Trisha (83:30)

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11. Oscars Behind the Scenes, Award Show Food, and Industry Anecdotes

[94:21–98:14]

• They discuss the lackluster food at the Critics Choice Awards and quirky event venues, with Oscar sharing about star-studded “empty” hangar locations.
• Behind-the-scenes tidbits about artists sneaking out or only walking red carpets, and how rare candid celebrity moments in green rooms have become content in themselves.

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12. Meme-ification & Trish as Meme Queen

[128:10–130:42]

• Oscar shares how Trisha's old photos have evolved into universal meme formats, much to both their amusement.
• Reflections on viral “Hurley from Lost” cosplay photo now being repurposed for feet memes on Twitter.

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13. YouTube True Crime Drama: Is There an Ethical Limit?

[131:05–144:16]

• Discussion of UK YouTuber Eleanor Neal’s “Outlore Live” True Crime tour and the backlash over commodifying real tragedies as entertainment.
• The group debates true crime as a genre, merch like “True Crime Is My Therapy,” and oversharing versus journalistic responsibility.
• Trisha: It’s fine to cover true crime, but exploitative branding ("Unforgettable nights!") is distasteful.

Quote:

“Merch is not something we should do anyway... ‘True Crime is my therapy’ is a crazy thing… like, so traumatic!”
— Trisha (134:46)

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14. Final Thoughts: Industry, Podcasts, & Live Events

[142:35–144:52]

• Debates about attending and producing live podcast shows and the “community” value vs. the actual content.
• Both express skepticism toward live true crime events but recognize the fandom's dedication.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On comeback culture:
  “People like, you know, I don’t want any humans to suffer. Miranda Sings, however, the character probably needs to just—” (08:44)

• On men wading into internet feuds:
  “When a man comments about anything womanhood, I’m like, okay, you don’t know what she was going through postpartum...” (34:01)

• On “Nepo Baby” advantages:
  “Getting an in, especially in the entertainment industry, that’s the hardest part.” (83:30)

• On viral trends:
  “Vision boards are like the new trendy thing everyone’s doing...” (27:24)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Oscar’s Wicked Flex & Ariana Grande Story: 02:34–04:06
• Improv, The “Fluffer Sisters” & Patreon Content: 04:12–06:14
• Shane Dawson’s “Canceled” & Influencer Comebacks: 06:20–09:57
• Miranda Sings’ TikTok Return Debate: 07:46–09:57
• Trisha’s Congress Viral Moment & Campaign Jokes: 10:19–16:46
• MrBeast x Starbucks & Corporate Virality: 18:28–21:46
• Ashley Tisdale Op-Ed & “Mom Group” Feud: 29:48–34:52
• Hilary Duff Music Standom: 36:38–41:47
• Bretman Rock vs. Vanessa Hudgens: 44:14–47:15
• Nepo Babies & Hollywood Myths: 82:25–93:25
• Critics Choice/Award Show Food: 94:21–98:14
• Meme Queen Trisha: 128:10–130:42
• True Crime YouTube Tour Drama: 131:05–144:16

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Episode Tone & Language

The episode is fast-paced and packed with sharp pop culture critique, internet humor, and zany digressions. Trisha’s delivery is buoyant, sarcastic, and often meta-aware (“me just getting in everyone’s business, I guess that is the nature of the podcast”), while Oscar balances with industry context and meme references.

Their language is candid, contemporary, and full of references that would appeal to longtime fans and internet-savvy listeners alike.

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Closing

Listeners looking for the latest in internet drama, celebrity commentary, and behind-the-scenes tea will find this a signature Just Trish episode—chaotic, meme-able, and packed with pop culture sleuthing. Skip the ad reads and intros; the main event is Trish and Oscar’s unique ability to find humor and insight in every corner of the social media zeitgeist.

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For deeper dives, see above timestamps to jump to topics like true crime controversy, meme queen moments, or Trisha’s political campaign chaos.

Transcript

[A]

She goes, I have so much to comment on on the Internet. Why did the cancel have to end? I was on the phone with Brooke for an hour. I'm like, girl, just bring it back. Then you guys ended it like people wanted it. No one was calling for it to be canceled. So, guys, so much is happening.

[B]

Said that you didn't want to talk about people anymore.

[A]

Hello, welcome to the Just Trish podcast. Ah, Happy New Year again. Happy New Year. I don't think we started a happy New Year last time. Happy New Year.

[C]

Happy new year. Happy 19 years.

[A]

Right? It was confusing. Everyone's like, it's not 2019, it's 2020. Thank God it's not 2019. Triggering, actually sending me back there. 2026. It's a new Oscar. You're wearing pink. I don't think I've ever seen you wear pink. Here.

[B]

Why are you tickling me so bad already?

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Oh, my gosh. Cracking me up.

[A]

You look great.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Oh, thank you.

[A]

What did you do different? Did you shave?

[B]

I did shave, yep.

[A]

Tan?

[B]

No. A little bronzer. Really? I do feel like one of those, like, toxic masculinity influencers, though. Cuz it was like, wake up. 4:30, work, five gym, 6:30, training, seven, eight clock into work. And then my second job. So I do feel very. Yeah. Face and ice.

[A]

You should do that for Tik Tok.

[B]

You use Tik Toks for a living.

[C]

That's why. That's why.

[A]

No, but what do you mean? Like, if that's what you did, like, if you were, if you were a TikTok editor, I'd be like, your Tik Toks would be so fire. You know what I mean? And you are. Your TikToks are fire. But, like, you're to be that is too. Why don't you do that?

[B]

I just, I, I, I'm trying to think of a more poetic way to say it, but the only thing I can think of is I blow my creative wad on.

[A]

I'm like, top dollar for that wad.

[B]

But I blow my creative wad on everything else. So when it comes to my own self. Yeah, I have no, I have no wads left.

[A]

You had a big flex day. I don't know you can even talk about. But you had a flex. And I was like, what you said was right. But I was like, there's no way. And I was like.

[C]

And I was like, but that's the only option.

[A]

No, I got the other option I mentioned. That's what's crazy. You had a big celebrity. Yeah.

[B]

8:00Am I signed on. They were like, ariana wants to, like, post this wicked clip. And I was like. And they're asking if we could edit it. I was like, well, yes, Anything for Ariana. Let me clear my schedule.

[A]

Did she post yet?

[B]

I don't think she posted it yet, actually. She probably didn't. I just haven't seen, but.

[A]

Oh, my God, she gave me an edited cred. No, we're not crazy. Because some people do, like, obviously you don't have to.

[B]

Obviously all the credits. Yeah.

[A]

Like, they're like, edit. Oh, my gosh. Are you gonna repost and be like, edited by me?

[B]

I should.

[A]

I love when people do that. They're like, oh, edited by me. Because that means they're proud of it.

[B]

It was pretty easy. I mean, it was like a. It's a wicked, like, featurette, like a behind the scenes clip. And I just. Someone else actually edited the clip itself. And I just took the clip and made it into vertical. So I didn't really do that much.

[A]

That's hard, though. That's hard to do. I don't know how to do it. Yeah. What was the clip?

[B]

It was her behind the scenes of the duel. The witch's duel scene. Yeah, Between Glinda and Elphaba after. Spoiler alert. That house falls on Nessarose.

[A]

Well, spoiler. That's 100 years old because wizard of Oz has been around for a minute. Interesting. Was there anything that we didn't see in the movie that was in that clip?

[B]

It was just the behind the scenes and Ariana talking about how much she loved doing that scene. And she really went for it. Like, they showed, like, the bloopers and stuff, and she was, like, running full force into Cynthia tackling her.

[A]

And there was all them. No stunts. No.

[B]

Yeah, it was all them. And, like, when Ariana was talking about it, she had a little devious look in her eye. Like, I could tell she really loved, like, getting all physical. I think she loves physical comedy, so. And she's really good.

[A]

It's hard to do, too, because, like, they call it physical comedy for reason. Like, it's physical. Like, I would imagine it would be difficult in a dress and heels.

[B]

Jimmy and I are developing a physical comedy script for you. We decided. Yeah. Wait, you write well now. We are. We are. We're going by. We're outing ourselves. Our pseudonym is going to be the Fluffer Sisters, as opposed to the Duffer Brothers.

[A]

Yes, but you can still use it. We'll just. If, you know. You know, if you saw the first 10 minutes of this, you know. Wait, that's. Are you for real? Do you guys write? Are you.

[B]

I think we can. Between the two of us. Why not?

[A]

Those captions are great. On Patreon.

[B]

Thank you. And our text messages, we kind of come up. We text each other little skits and stuff all the time. Mostly. Yeah. We come up with scenarios that think would be funny. Yeah. Wow. Mostly, like, wouldn't be funny if Trisha did this. And then we, like, just keep going back and forth, so we're like, we might as well do it.

[A]

We should do that for Patreon, where I act out your guys's. That's everything that's so. I had no idea this was happening. Wait, that's actually so sweet.

[B]

Yeah, we come up with all these scenarios. So, like, for the. When you're running for congress, like, all of a sudden, we'll be like, what if this happened? And then we'll be like, yes, almost.

[C]

But this is your improv. Yes. Oh, yes. You'll just be standing with a green screen. And you guys, I do read your text messages.

[A]

You know what? Actually, two things on that. One, y', all, I was. I'm scared the congress thing went to the wrong side of the Internet. I need to. I need to just wait a minute. Okay, that was. That's. Loved it. And then got scared. And then two, I found someone who's gonna teach us improv of seven years. She's taken improv classes. Meg Salter is. Could teach us. Yeah. She came to Trishmas. We've been mutuals on social media. And I was like, oh, my God. Loved your Timothee Chalamet and Kylie, because she looked like Kylie Jenner. How do you look?

[B]

Literally, she looked so good.

[A]

Yeah, she was amazing. And then I was like, I don't know how you improv, because they were improving on the red carpet. I was like, I don't know how you guys do that. And then she's like, oh, thanks. Like, she was actually feel more comfortable in character than even, like, just being myself. One, I was like, oh, my God. And then we were talking about improv. Like, I wish I could improv. And she goes, oh, my God, you could. She goes, why did it take, like, seven years of improv? Like, girl, can you teach us? I was like, yes. So if she comes on the podcast, she'll, like, teach us, because I really want to learn to improv. And so this script is improv or it's, like, scripted or part? Both.

[B]

Probably a little bit of both. Yeah, we're. It's in development right now. Pre development, I guess.

[A]

Feature or short?

[B]

I think we're gonna go feature. Why not a feature film? Yeah, if Shane Dawson can do it, I can do it.

[A]

That is so true. Did you see that? He made a movie.

[B]

Yeah, he's editing it now.

[A]

I love and support. I'm in the 26. Like, love and support. Like, from afar. Like, don't need to be your friend, but, like, love and support. I think the name's awful because, like, canceled. Isn't that, like. Doesn't that. Don't you think of Tana?

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

The podcast.

[B]

I think we could have moved on in. In the name.

[A]

Yeah. I think it's, like, not a. What would you call it? Not knowing any context other than it's called canceled. Well, we know a little context, right? It' an influencer that's canceled.

[B]

It was an actress.

[C]

Actress. Like. Like, she was going to the Oscars or nominated and get canceled like, a minute before the whole thing was happening.

[A]

Oh, it's giving.

[C]

But then she somehow came across somebody else that was in the same boat kind of thing.

[A]

Okay. It's giving. Amelia Perez and also Ned Fullmer, Colin Ballinger, like, you know, the crossover. Like, they're in the same boat. They're about to be in the Oscars, and then they. So it's kind of giving all of that. Maybe they're all three in it. Could you imagine? Maybe it's their comeback. Yeah, yeah, that'd be. How do you know all that information? I just knew a little bit. How did you know the.

[C]

Because I remember back then, like, we brought it up once.

[A]

Oh, did we?

[C]

Maybe in person.

[A]

But I will say I did not seek this information out. Moses did send me a text of this, you know, you rarely do.

[C]

No, I. Sometimes it just comes up on my social media. So it came up and I saw it.

[B]

That's how I knew.

[A]

No, I was happy. Look, I'm happy. I'm happy for everyone. 21 6, I think everyone are sure, though.

[C]

Everyone.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, I just saw a TikTok that Miranda sings posted for the first time in three years.

[A]

No. Oh, my God. What is happening? Why is it always at the beginning of the year when, like, David come back last year? Like, what? Like, okay, Colleen, you know how I feel.

[C]

Miranda.

[A]

That's what I'm saying. Miranda needs to stay. Like, I think that person can just go. Colleen's a human. Okay, you know, whatever. But not my bag. But Miranda, like, the most problematic. I mean, but, like. And knowingly so. And didn't she even say like, yeah, Miranda was, you know, that was. It was a long time ago. Yeah, right. Yeah, that was a long time ago. It was meant for adults. What'd she come back with?

[C]

Nothing. A typical. She was just like making noises. Her. Yeah. I mean, I saw somebody talk about it. I was like, no way. And then I went to look and there was a post.

[A]

There's no way in 2026 she's doing.

[C]

But you don't really see much. You just hear noises and see like.

[A]

Half of a. Oh, she's like teasing a comeback.

[C]

Yeah. Oh, but all the comments were like, no, we did not forget.

[A]

I mean, look again, I. People like, you know, I don't want any humans to suffer. Miranda sings, however, the character probably needs to just.

[C]

I mean, she can try. You know, Ned Fulmer tried.

[A]

That's crazy. To sings. Okay, well, I think in this case we can't separate the art. I think she should want to separate the art from the artist. Right? Don't you, don't you think she wants separation from that? Probably be like, oh, let's not. Okay. My other advice to my ex colleagues, Shane cancel needs to change and the Miranda sings needs to be done. I think we can all agree on that. I think that's. That's so wild. Okay, well, here we are starting off. That's crazy. Okay. How do you feel about it? You're a SAT for it. You're like, I loved it.

[B]

About the Tick tock.

[A]

Did you see it?

[B]

I just looked it up right now.

[A]

It's like a little tease. Is it like, oh, who's coming back?

[B]

It's like Miranda's forehead and it's really short. It has a million views already, but I mean, it's four days ago.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

My God, there's room for everyone. Let's just say that you're right.

[A]

You're right, you're right.

[C]

Read the comments and you Then you, like, read the room.

[A]

I really can't. I can't wrap my brain around that triggering kind of.

[C]

But maybe there's enough people that are canceled that there's enough people that will watch Shane's movie.

[A]

She should really cascoline in it. Well, okay. I don't know where to go from that.

[B]

Good luck, everybody.

[A]

Good luck.

[B]

Good luck, creative endeavors.

[A]

Yeah, you're right. Like, why try something new when you can just go back to the problematic past? I just start trolling again. I just start rage baiting people. I felt with the congress thing, I thought people thought I was rage. Baby, let Me. Let me dial it back. All of a sudden I was getting negativity. I was like, no, I don't. Like it was not trolling, but, you know.

[C]

No, but it's in Plum. Plumin.

[A]

Pluberis. Pluberis.

[C]

No, when. When people start the campaign, they always start with, you know, they're just seeking out information. That's all it is.

[A]

Yeah, Yeah, I definitely was seeking out. Still am. Shout out Oscar Crave, who gave me an alternative. Because if you don't even do representatives, there is ways to submit bills. He showed me a little thing. He, like, runs campaigns in Nashville.

[B]

I believe it. Yeah, yeah, he can run also run a campaign like the Navy.

[A]

He's running your Oscar. I loved it. He's giving me all these, like, backup options. So. Still want to make a difference. Trying to figure out a way to do it without people just coming for me. I'm like, oh, my gosh. Just trying to.

[B]

I did hear you. You did not. You don't even qualify to run for Congress because if you are related to nobility, you are disqualified from running and did give birth to Queen Elizabeth. So people are using that against you.

[A]

Is that real? Is that real?

[B]

I saw one tweet, but is that a real law? It is a law. Yeah. Like, if you're related to like, oh, no, like Prince Harry or something, I don't think you could run for Congress or run for government.

[A]

Oh, my God. But if it's a reincarnate, it's not like it's not like that version.

[C]

Well, they'll have to prove it once and for all. They'll have to prove it to you.

[A]

I insisted on putting that in my that you can't talk about project. That I can't talk about. I ended up putting it in there because I've said this before, but I'm going to reiterate it. And actually I googled it to make sure because this thing that I can't talk about, I have to fact check everything. I'm like, really just trying to make sure, like, my mind is correct. And I remember someone told us this when it happened. But, like, I researched it again and if you type in the time that like Trisha Paytas, most googled search and it still comes up to this day on the thing and it says when it was rumored that she gave birth to Queen Elizabeth. It's my highest Google spike ever. Of all the controversies, of all the beasts, of all the people I've collabed with, that is it. I insist. It had to be in this project. That I can't talk about. And I made it in because I, you know, the Lord has to be.

[C]

True because it's a global consciousness phenomenon.

[A]

You know, I believe it more so awful at the time. I believe it more so now. So that one. I believe everything else. I don't know. That's so funny. I know. That's the thing. People, like, find ways to be like, actually, no, you can't. You can't do it. But yeah, I know. I was getting like letters from like local congress people and I was just like, you know, let me just live in peace. People, like, we're saying our city, and then, you know, which is like, fine, I guess, to qualify. They're like, oh, she lives here, this whatever. And I'm like. Then I got a little scared, kind of like, oh, I forgot how. Like, anyways, it's TBD on that. But I love, love the excitement, you know, sometimes, you know what? I really just set it on here. And then I was thinking about it afterwards, like, let me do a little tick tock. And then that. I'm like, oh, my. All my TikToks flop. Except for that one. And then I was like, oh, no. And then I get a little scared, actually, when something goes viral. I'm like, I woke up this morning to literally like a Google alert. I don't have like my name on Google alerts. And it was like a Google or like Trisha Paytas. I was like.

[C]

And of course, that night the congressman passed away.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[C]

To make room for your seat. Yeah, immediately.

[B]

That is crazy.

[A]

I know that.

[C]

I mean, I see TikToks of people that are moving back to California because of you. Like, I think California will ask you to run.

[A]

Okay, I'm scared.

[C]

People are moving. They're like, if she's. I'm coming back to California.

[A]

Oh, my gosh. We'll see. It did kind of like just blow up. People are texting me and just like, do you need help to do this? I'm like, let me. Let me think for a minute. Let me.

[B]

I had two campaign activation ideas already. Also, I realized I really want a clipboard because I see myself with a clipboard. Like running around, like, even a little headpiece or something.

[A]

Well, especially if you're gonna get signatures. We need that.

[B]

Yeah, exactly.

[C]

You'll be what Bowen Yang was for Glinda.

[B]

Yes, very. That.

[A]

Did he campaign for her?

[C]

He literally runs behind her with a clipboard and hopes her all day too.

[A]

Okay, that's Fanny with Glinda, not Bo. And Yang, his character?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, Fanny, I thought you meant Bow and Yang campaigning.

[C]

I remember the character.

[A]

Okay, well, we can't say Bo and Yang for Kalinda. They exist in different worlds.

[C]

Well, I understand.

[A]

I got it. Got it right the way you said Will Schnapp for Stranger Things.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

My first activation is a photo shoot at the World Trade center, but not the one World Trade Center. Oh, DL Trade Center. So it's just a whole bunch of, like, honky gay guys who are DL, who could be straight, passing.

[A]

Where's the DL Trade Center?

[B]

We're just gonna make it up. Like, we're gonna have, you know, drip. Don't come make a little world. Yeah, World Trade Center. Like, sign on a building.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And then just have all DL trade behind you.

[A]

Oh, okay. So, like.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Yes. And then my second one was instead of, you know, the California flag has the bear, the animal on it. But then I was thinking we could recreate that with you in front of the California flag, but it's a large gay man instead of, you know, the actual bear.

[A]

Okay. We kind of.

[B]

Those are my two activations so far.

[A]

I love that you thought of this.

[B]

Yeah. But Creative juice. I was ideating yesterday, for sure.

[A]

Oh, my gosh. Okay, now you're inspiring me again. I know, Moses. Like, how about bumper stickers? I was like, oh, my God. Okay, let's just.

[B]

First of all, you know, he loves a bumper.

[A]

He does.

[C]

I love stickers. But I think you have the best slogan. Like, it's already caught up. I see people in the comments, you know, already saying it. California, it could be good. And it's happening. So, I mean, I. That's for my mind. It starts with slogans, right? And then I don't know. And you also have a lot of experience from Floptropica, so.

[A]

Oh, you know about Floptropica now?

[C]

You already have.

[A]

How'd you know about that?

[C]

What do you mean?

[A]

I feel like you didn't always know.

[C]

About Floptropica, so it's just a matter of, you know, using that experience.

[A]

Okay, well, let's. We'll put a pin for now, but we don't have much time. I'll decide in the next few weeks because we have until, like, February 9th, I guess, to just start getting those votes, but. Or at least signatures, you guys. I don't know. Already chaotic. Already Already chaotic. I mean, Miranda Sings is back, and that is just, like. It's so chaotic. I'm okay.

[C]

Why she's gonna run against you. What if you find out that. That's your opponent?

[A]

I don't know if that's a thing. Well, is that why you're wearing pink? To be the campaign manager?

[B]

Oh, well, yes. Or.

[A]

Why did you wear pink? I never see you in pink.

[B]

You know, this was. Yeah. Well, this was on sale at my local Uniqlo. And, yeah, I have this one shirt in, like, eight colors, and they were on sale, so that's why I stocked up. And I'm like, let me just get every single one.

[A]

I love that. I do, too. You find something that, like, works for you.

[B]

Exactly.

[C]

Stripes makes it so political.

[A]

Well, stars and stripes. You see, there's stars on his jeans.

[C]

That's why I was like, you're an American flag right now.

[A]

Yeah, well, it's rainbow and pink. But Trish. The Trish flag.

[B]

I was trying to think of a way to put your name into American, but I think maybe that's the one word that I can't.

[A]

That can't.

[B]

No, Trish can.

[A]

No, Trish. I can maybe. No, I don't know if it works. I really like it. Well, they say dress for the job you want today. I'm in full skims. I am in full skims. I actually did a little shoot right before this for another thing I'm announcing soon. Not the other. Not the other thing. Although I have to show you that that one's done. But this is. That's why I was dressed up and I had nothing to wear for the actual thing. Cause it was in a black dress. And then I was like, what do I wear? And then I was like, oh, I just had a skims. Little skims robe. So that's why I'm dressed for. What are you dressed for over there? What's the job you want? What is that saying?

[C]

I'm the water. I'm an ocean.

[A]

Okay, period. Another one of our topics. We do want to clean the ocean so you can be in charge of the aquatic part of our state.

[C]

I'd be happy to.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Clean water.

[A]

Yeah. You Mr. Beast. Oh, Mr. Beast is Starbucks. Drink is real. Did we talk about this? I thought it was fake. Did you see anything about.

[B]

No, I just saw nothing about this.

[A]

He's a drink with Starbucks. Thank you so much to SeatGeek for sponsoring today's episode of Just Trish. SeatGeek is back as a sponsor in 2026. New year means new code. That's right, Trish. 2026 will give you 10% off your SeatGeek purchase. It is great, because the summer is coming. Summer, spring, Coachella festivals, My Chemical Romance, Ariana Grande. Maybe you missed out on those tickets. Maybe you missed out on those good tickets. How do I get those front row tickets? Well, seatgeek has you covered. Get the best price, get the best deals, best affordability, whatever you're searching for, SeatGeek has you covered with great customer service as well. With over 35 million downloads, SeatGeek is the number one rated ticketing app. There are more than 70,000 events listed on SeatGeek, including concert, sports festivals, and more. It's officially the new year, and so many artists have already released tickets for their 2026 tours. Like Lady Gaga, Cardi B, Zara Larson, Chris Stapleton, Morgan Wallen, Alex Warren, Debbie Lovato, the Backstreet Boys at the Sphere. Absolutely. And more. So grab your tickets now. SeatGeek has your back. Each chick is rated on a scale of 1 to 10. So you know you're getting a good deal. So look for the green dots. Green means good, red means bad. And it's great because you can search by how many tickets you're getting. 1, 2, 3, 4. You can search by date. Pro tip. If you go the day of the show and look on SeatGeek, sometimes you'll get the best deals. I'm telling you, sometimes those last minute. If you're. If you're debating now, if you really want to get those tickets right now, but if you're debating, look at the day of and you get some really, really good deals. Every ticket is backed by SeatGeeks buyer guarantee. The new year means new artists are on tour. To make it even better, you can use code TRISH2026 for 10 off your SeatGeek tickets. That's 10% off tickets with promo code TRISH2026. Make sure you click the link in the description and download the app and have the code automatically added to your account so you can use it later. Thank you so much to SeatGeek for sponsoring today's episode. Everyone's saying allegedly rumor just to be funny. It's Panera Lemonade 2.0. Like, everyone's like, this is not a good idea, but it's real. Like, even star. Like, that's crazy to see the Mr. Beast, like, blue panther logo on the start. Like with Starbucks.

[B]

Like, what?

[A]

It feels unreal. It feels.

[B]

And they're sponsoring Beast game season two. Wow, that's wild. The Cannonball drink, I mean, already kind.

[A]

Of sound a little scary. You can try it. What is it? Is it refresher pink?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

It's gonna feel like a Cannonball. Like if you shot out of a.

[B]

The beverage was inspired by and created on the set of season two and will be featured on the Cannonball challenge in the Beast Games X Survivor crossover episode, which debuts on January.

[A]

Survivor. Like cvs.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Mike White's on it. That'd be crazy.

[B]

Wait, I think this is the All Star season.

[A]

Like actually that'd be crazy because he's. Yeah.

[B]

Wait, that's crazy.

[A]

What a crossover. Okay. You know, I'm not knocking it because I kind of like, I'm kind of happy. I would love that integration. Like just like a Arby's thing thrown into the middle of the podcast, which I guess is what we do. But like, I like that. I like that there's like a challenge centered around his Starbucks drink.

[B]

Okay. So it says it's a refresher beverage and they'll sprinkle or cannonball. These press releases are too.

[A]

I do love it.

[B]

The dried fruit. Fruit pieces on top. And then give the cup a swirl to create a fun ombre. Purple hue.

[A]

Oh, that's fun. I like it.

[C]

But it's so weird. Like, it just shows you how weird corporate is when they think about stuff like that.

[A]

Corporate's weird because Mr.

[C]

Beast is not. The people that buy Starbucks, like the people that follow him.

[B]

They're just a refresher. Yeah.

[C]

Maybe buy lunchly or prime, but they're not buying Starbucks.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You're not going to convince them to go to Starbucks and get this drink with a Flurry swirl. Whatever.

[A]

Boys are like, I want that blurry drink.

[B]

Yeah. And isn't his color like blue? So why would he go like purple and pink?

[A]

Does it make blue?

[B]

No, it just gives it like. It looks kind of like more like a Glinda drink or something.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Giving James Charles is fuming his pinky drink.

[B]

I didn't want to say it, so I'm glad that you did. The pinky drinkity of it all. Yeah, he's right.

[A]

Cuz he. He was.

[B]

He was with dried fruit. Hello. Damn. He is so mad because I actually. Yeah, that would be funny.

[A]

I know. He wasn't horrible. I thought about recreating. You love recreating things too. As the. The Tick Tock. Have you ever seen a Tick tock? It's from 2020, but it's all over my FYP. Do you know which one I'm talking about where he's like. He's singing with another guy.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And he's like, my Gucci shoes.

[B]

Yes. Out like in this backyard.

[A]

Right?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And like the brothers are behind him doing a dance. And I was like, that'd be so fun to recruit with you because it's so weird. And he, like, you know, he's like, trying to think, like, d. Like, he's trying to, like, improv, but, like, it's clearly a track that they're singing to. And I was like, it's. And I want to recreate it so bad, but he's the worst. I think I know the other one.

[B]

The other one you did. You sang popular isn't named Anthony?

[A]

I think.

[B]

I think so. Yeah.

[A]

I can see your voice. I love him, but it, like, took me a minute and I was like, oh, my gosh. This is. Do you know which one I'm talking about with the. I think it was like the Lopez brothers.

[C]

I have an image of it.

[A]

It's on my for you page. That's all I see. You like me. I like your Gucci shoes. Like, that's all I see. And I'm just like.

[C]

The one that comes up on mine is him running in the mall and falling down for some reason.

[A]

Oh, I was just talking about our favorite James Charles moments. Oscar, your favorite.

[C]

But why is another fyp.

[A]

Why is it. Oh, oh, the Disney World one. The Disneyland.

[B]

I did love that one. Nicole Rafi recreated that. She was that for Halloween.

[A]

I think that's such a good one.

[B]

Or maybe she just cosplay randomly.

[A]

I kind of forgot.

[B]

But she, like, she went to Disney World or wherever it was, and then she literally recreated it. And then she had. In her TikTok, she had someone filming her doing the Tik Tok and then someone filming the person that was filming her.

[A]

So it was like the full thing. That's so smart, though, because that's what made it so good. You see it happening like that. She have the shoes in the shorts. Yeah, she's good. I love when people can do a cosplay and it's niche, but, like, everyone knows it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, ma'. Am. It's a good one.

[B]

That was James Charles moment Segment is crazy.

[A]

I know, I know. He's. He's the worst. And I haven't blocked, but damn. It comes up. My whole FYP right before I fall asleep is just that James Charles and it's like, nice to. Nice to know ya. Let's do it again. It's like, I'm not gonna. I can do the whole thing. And I thought, oh, you and me could do it. Cause it's like them going back and forth. And then the next Christmas we could do that duet. Cause I really think. Okay, announcement. Now I'm going to do a next Christmas. I really want to go hard. I want the Addison Rae headset. Like, I want to be able to dance. I need a riser like Addison's just inspiring it all. I need a riser like her. Then I really want to do our duets like we did. Misbehaving. Nailed it. I need to really focus on you and me. And I thought maybe we do. I like, that could be ours. And I really. Me and Malboo already have our little number worked out, so I think me and my sister are going to do Ashley and Jessica. So I'm really, like, thinking about our duets on stage for real. And that one keeps talking in my head. Anthony and. And James Charles from 2020. But we can do it and. And just make it good. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Reclaim it.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

Reclaim. Right. They didn't write those songs. And then you and Jimmy can be our little dancers. And then Jimmy and I will do a duet too, because, you know, we'll. We'll think of another one.

[B]

Some Lady Gaga.

[A]

Yeah, like a little Gaga mashup. Because everyone does love a Gaga song. They always require request songs. I don't know. So I'm gonna just find a bunch of niche ones and do a little mashup.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

People will go crazy. Because I do love. I do love Gaga. I need to get into that era. So I'm really thinking about it, you guys, because that one. Tick tock. I said I wasn't giving enough. I'm gonna give 20 songs. Dancing, high risers, headlit headset. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go full out on Twitter. So that's what I'm doing. Did you hear what Arma said to me? Day? She's taking my pictures and she's like. I was like, yeah, like maybe I maybe go on a GLP1, you know, next month. And she goes, I never think of you as, like your size, like, big or small shoes. You have such good proportions. Every time I like, photograph you, like, it just. It's so easy to, like, shape you. And so I was like, wow, I.

[B]

Feel like Moses tells you that all the time.

[A]

Well, I gotta hear from someone else. Moses just. We love, but, you know, you can't hear from your husband. You gotta hear from somebody else.

[C]

And the boobs and the butt. You have a perfect body.

[A]

It was so sweet. Well, I'm doing Pilates today. We'll get the Panda Express for lunch early, and then I'll go do the Pilates. Last time we got the panda. You remember we did the physical fitness. Then we did panda at like 4. My Pilates was at 4:30. And that whole class, I was like, I can't. She's like, contract. I'm like, I can't. There's so much food in me.

[B]

Oh my God.

[A]

And I'll get a little one. There's a big plate and a bigger plate. I think I'll just get the big plate.

[B]

Yeah. Work. We did get the bigger plate last time.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

That bigger plate. It is hard to choose between the honey walnut shrimp, the Beijing or the orange chicken. It is like, I want all three of those. But I wonder if you get the bigger plate, is it smaller portions of the entree?

[B]

Yeah, it's still the regular sized portion. You just get a third.

[A]

I just like. Because the bigger plate is in the cart right now. But maybe I'll go down after this thing. I don't know. I didn't get veggie spring rolls and I didn't, you know, sometimes I get a side of fried rice. Did not do that either. So. Well, we'll order that right after because you guys. Patreon. Patreon.com just. Trish. We are a vision boarding team. I'm so excited about this.

[B]

Me too.

[A]

I feel like it's so real. Vision boards.

[B]

Yeah. Darian Rent. Not even like, because we were doing it. He made one on his phone last night.

[A]

Oh, oh, vision board. I have a huge vision board on my phone. I have like a dream board. 2026. And you know, I think I share. I have one that I share with you and then I have one that I have on myself and has everything. Those are so real. I. I write down what I want to like, just letters. So I think they're so real however you do it. But vision boards are like the new trendy thing everyone's doing. So I think if you. I got. Moses said, get Scotch tape. I have glue stick. What do you think? Glue stick or Scotch tape?

[B]

I like glue sticks.

[A]

That's what I think too. He's like, no, I think you're need Scotch tape. And I was like, well, we have both options. And the only poster board they had was the. The trifold, like the presentation. So we're gonna. Yeah, that's all they had. But I guess the vision boards are popular because I went to Target and cvs. CVS had none whatsoever. They had like a floppy one and then the Target only had the trifold.

[C]

And I was like, I love that one because then you can Open it on the table and show it.

[A]

Yeah, it's giving. It's giving science fair for sure. So we're into that. I'm very excited. So to patreon.com just trish put a word out to WB tour. And I was over at Universal yesterday and I saw the little VIP tour tram go by and then I went into this little, like, office and I was just like, hey, how do I get like a VIP tram? And like, do you want it right now? And I was like, it was like 6 o' clock at night because they were going at night through like the back, which was a little spooky. I had it on my story. Check it out on Tick Tock. The Jaws thing at night is all like lit up and the lightning that like comes like, it's like, looks like it's like. It was so scary and then the fire happening, it looked. It looked terrifying. So they, they offered me it right then and there. Like, if you want to go, you can just jump on this next tram that's coming. And I was like, no, that's okay. But I do want it. So I got that out. We got the track meet in place. Not in place yet, but in motion. So very excited. So go to patreon. Patreon.com just. Trish, I got it in pretty quick. Before the 30 minutes. That's pretty good.

[B]

Not before Shane Dawson mentioned, but.

[A]

No, I know. Well, you know, sometimes things are just on top of that, especially because I've been doing a project that's been like, going down memory lane. I. He has been in like the forefront a little bit and I'm just like, okay, he'll go back in the backalobe.

[B]

In the what?

[A]

In the back lobe.

[B]

Oh, okay. Yeah.

[A]

Is there. I'm assuming there's a. There's a back one probably. I totally missed yesterday that I totally just like checked off my phone after. I was getting a little anxious seeing all the virality of everything. So I just. I just checked out my phone. And then like last night when I posted our chicken finger mukbang, I'm like, what's happening in the world? Did anything happen between Monday and Wednesday? Nothing really. Right. Hence why I'm rambling.

[B]

There has been a development in the Ashley Tisdale Op Ed. Yeah, that was kind of fierce invested in this. Yeah, me too. Because since that cut, OP Ed, which we now know stands for opposite editorial.

[A]

I love OP Ed. It's also never been kissed. They talk about op ed a lot and I'm like, oh, what's That I know.

[B]

I feel like we've lost the art of an op ed.

[A]

Like, I want to do one.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, but do you have to do it on something salacious like that?

[B]

I don't know. I feel like you can kind of do it on any topic, really. It's just like your own opinions on something, I think.

[A]

And who asked?

[B]

Like, did she just reach out and be like, hey, I want to write this up?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I feel like that's such a random and specific thing to like reach out to Ashley Tisdale's team and be like, hey, can we cover like mom groups?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It was very.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So many people were weighing in, I thought Christy Carlson Romano, right?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Hillary Duff's husband weighing him.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So Ashley Tisdale team weighing.

[B]

Yes. So before everyone else weighed in, Ashley Tisdale's rep issued a statement to TMZ about the toxic mom group drama and said that the 40 year old penned the essay in the hopes of putting the focus on the issues that some mom circles face. Pulling from her own experience of being shut out of her friend group in a way that made her feel like she was right back in high school and wanted to clarify that it was not about Meghan Trainor, Hilary Duff and Mandy Moore and that she is not maga, which is very specific, a registered Democrat. They made, they made that clear, which is so specific. But then later that night, Hillary does husband Matthew Coma posted to his Instagram story with his head photoshopped on the Ashley Tisdale like the cut editorial.

[A]

He.

[B]

Wrote on the a quote on the COVID When you're the most self obsessed tone deaf person on earth, other moms tend to shift focus to their actual toddlers. So I got very specific.

[A]

Husbands are always so dubious. There was someone else who was like talking too much on behalf of his wife. Was it like Ryan Reynolds or something? Some people just talk too much and it's just like, just don't like, you know what I mean? Like, do you think he ran it by Hillary? Because I would be mortified. Like one thing I do love about you, Moses, through everything, there's been so many ups down beasts with me publicly. Moses has never gone like publicly to like bash someone I'm beefing with because that's just like embarrassing. Like, what do you mean? Like, also Hillary Duff's not beefing with her. Like it's a one sided Ashley Tisdale beef against whoever these mom groups are. So he kind of just like outed him.

[C]

It's literally in the name mom group. Like, what?

[A]

Yeah. Why are you com, like, like, nobody.

[C]

Go to the husband group. Go talk to them.

[A]

Right, right.

[C]

They do have that. Like, they have nothing to do with this. You're not in a group. You're not talking to the moms.

[A]

No, it's just that I don't, like. Yeah, I hate that when, like, guys get involved, especially in, like. I hate to call it, like, girl drama, but it is, like, it literally girls between girls, and it's like, why are you inside? Like, I don't know. Like, it's. I hate it. And also, like, like, maybe I just can't imagine running by Hillary and check. Yeah, that's a good idea. Go do that. Because she's so not drama at all. Like, she doesn't address anything, which is, like, probably for the best because I was. I was very much on whoever the mom. She was talking about groups because I was like, this is kind of a weird, like, thing to, like, put out there, you know? But it clearly was right about. I mean, how many mom groups was she a part of?

[B]

That's the thing. Because it was like that her rep issued that statement. Then it's like, okay, so then there's two mom groups she was kicked out of because.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

In one year. So. Which doesn't really make sense. And, like, she had also unfollowed, like, Meghan Trainor, Hilary Duff and Mandy Moore on Instagram. So, like, everyone was like, this is so specific. I think I gotta live that Matthew coma went and did it, though. I think it's funny. I mean, me personally, like, I think it's hilarious just because it's so, like, messy and at the end of the day, like, who cares, really? It's just like, it's the kind of mess that I live for. You know what I mean? It's like, more low stakes. Yeah. No one's doing anything illegal or, you know, no victims involved. It's just like. It's like Real Housewives kind of drama.

[A]

Yeah, I'm with you. I guess. Just like, when a man comments about anything womanhood, I'm like, okay, you don't know what she was going through postpartum, why she left the mom group. You know what I mean? Because, like, again, I was mostly on the other mom's side because the Ashley Tisdale. But I was like, I don't know. This whole thing kind of sounds like, whatever. But then like, a man coming here, like, no, you don't. So then back on Ash Tisdale side, I was like, you know what? She's postpartum. She's going through she, like, I. Then I was like, back on her.

[B]

But the fire stuff is crazy to be, like, bragging about your house or, like, talking about, like, you're at literally, like, the same week that your friend and your mom group lost her home.

[A]

Right, Right.

[B]

And, like, everyone in LA is going through it to talk about your renovations.

[A]

Yeah. No, I'm with you. I'm very much that, too. I'm very much like Ashley does. I don't believe that.

[B]

But did he need to do that in order to win people? Everyone was already, like, on Hillary's side anyway, so, like, did he. He needs to do that? No, but me personally, as someone who loves mess, was like, this is fun. So I sure.

[A]

I'm sure people who are like, team Hillary and that probably, like, yeah. You know what I mean? But anytime, like, a husband tries to get in the middle of, like, the. I'm on, like, the. The Mormon wives things, too, and all their husbands are always, like, embarrassing like that, always trying to get in the middle of, like, drama. I'm like, can you just not. You are men. Like, I know not to be, like, misogynistic or patriarchal or whatever, but it's like, at the end of the day, there are some things that men do that just give the ick that women won't. And I feel like one of them is getting involved in girl drama. It's like, that's. I don't like. It gives me the ick. But he's cute, I think. Almost cute. And I love Hillary. I mean, like, I know it sounds crazy that I'm not, because I just said, oh, why would you do that? But, like, team Hillary all the way. Like, I just love her no matter what she does. And she seems nice. She just seems nice. But maybe that's the worst thing to say, too. It's very Scotty with David Dobrik. Like, he's just nice. Like, I don't know, maybe she's not. She.

[B]

I feel like. No, because she have such a long career, especially in, like, the early 2000s when, like, there was no avoiding, like, all your business was kind of out there, like, in the early 2000s, I think. And to have literally the only thing that you've had your whole career is, like, feeding with Lindsay Lohan over a boy. Which, like, when you're, like, 17. Yeah. Which every teen star dealt with. Yeah. And that has happened with every other Disney star.

[A]

So she did feud with. What was the woman? Warren Beatty's ex wife. Do you remember her? Faye Dunaway. You don't remember she was like 50 and she was like. And I guess she said something like Hillary King.

[B]

Oh, yes. About playing her in a biopic or something, right?

[A]

Yeah, something like that. And then Hillary's like, well, she's old or something like that. Or like I don't know what she has. I was like, damn, she kind of ate. I like her slays. When she does slay, she slays hard. Yeah, I agree. Like her reputation like over the years has always been nice. Yeah, everyone says that. Everyone says like, oh, she's like the nicest person.

[B]

Yeah. I've never heard one bad thing about her. Even when I like my favorite, my only Hillary Duff stories, me going up to her telling how much I loved her album. I was like, it's getting me through a hard time. And she embraced me and she made me feel so good.

[A]

Metamorphosis.

[B]

It was. Oh my gosh. No, it was. Oh God, what am I. I didn't.

[A]

Know there was two Hillary Duff albums.

[B]

No, there's a lot of Hillary.

[A]

Oh my God.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Fake Stan over here. I just. I only know why not getting what it's called.

[B]

Called. It is. Oh, breathe in, breathe out. Of course, that was in 2015.

[A]

That's the one that got you through something.

[B]

Yeah. Cuz it was all about like getting through a breakup or whatever. And I don't know why I was depressed at this time, but I. Maybe I got through a situationship or something cuz I. 2015. 27.

[A]

No, no, I was 27.

[B]

I was 23.

[A]

Okay, that makes more sense.

[B]

I have no idea why I was depressed at this time, actually. I'm like, who was I thinking about? I have no idea. Yeah, but I was depressed, I guess. And yeah, I love that album. But I have a memory to every single Hillary Duff album now that I'm looking at it. Santa Claus Lane, her Christmas album in 2002. I remember going to Tower Records. My grandma and grandpa bought me that album, the most wanted album, which was like her best her like greatest hits.

[A]

I remember Most Wanted.

[B]

I do know.

[A]

And that was great. Yeah.

[B]

I remember going to Target and Target put it on the shelves like a week early. And I was like, mom, this isn't supposed to be out yet, but let's try to buy it for you.

[A]

Of course, of course. Hello.

[B]

Yeah, I remember Metamorphosis having that on my Walkman. Hillary Dove self titled. I remember also having that in my walkman. But that was when the. She had that movie Jericho and it was. Oh no, she had that movie Raise your Voice. And one of the songs from the soundtrack was in that fly.

[A]

Oh, that's a good one.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I love. Raise your voice.

[B]

I kind of love Hilary Duff. I really do.

[A]

You're giving Hillary Duff in your shirt today. And when she goes to Italy with Paolo.

[B]

Did you see Jacob Elordi in an interview? He's talking about, like, his celeb, like, his celebrity crushes or whatever. And I feel like, okay, he was very vague. He was like, hillary Duff in that one movie when she's in Italy and she's throwing a coin in a fountain. Like, he was listening the whole plot of the movie but not saying Lizzie McGuire.

[A]

And I'm like, what did he take?

[B]

No, I think he was trying to play it cool. I was like, jacob Elordi, you know Lizzie McGuire. Like, you don't know everything about. It's that movie where she's in Italy with a boy and she eats spaghetti. And then she's also a pop star. She's throwing a coin in a fountain. She's on the vest. But, you know, Liz McGuire, if you're listening every.

[A]

He knows. He wanted to be Paulo for sure.

[B]

Yeah, he was kind of giving that.

[A]

Oh, my gosh. I didn't see that. When did he say that?

[B]

It was in W magazine. It came out, like, a day or two ago.

[A]

I love him championing her. That's so great.

[B]

He also said Ashley, Mary Kate and Ashley, specifically in the movie New York Minute Knit were also.

[A]

Oh, well, that was their. Yeah, that's when they were, like, a little more mature. I do love their outfits. Those were classic outfits.

[B]

And their hair.

[A]

I think spaghetti. He has good taste. Yeah. I love Hillary. Are you gonna go see her in Vegas? She's gonna be there.

[B]

I wanted her, like, smaller shows. Like, she has one in la. It sold out.

[A]

So where.

[B]

God. It was a smaller theater. It was when she released her new single, oh, January 29th at the Wiltern. Oh, my God. And it was like another, like, Battlefield tickets. And now. Yeah. The lowest resale is 550 bucks. Well, that is wild.

[A]

You can use code trish 2026, and you get $5 off at se.

[B]

There you go. Yeah.

[A]

Good deal.

[B]

It's called the Small Rooms, Big Nerves concert. So she's, like, specifically playing, like, smaller theaters.

[A]

Where's her Vegas one at? I see she's there for, like, a weekend, right?

[B]

I wonder if it's the same one Ashley Simpson did. Yeah, the Venetian. I think that's where Ashley Simpson was as well.

[A]

I love the Venetian. I think it's connected to the Sphere.

[B]

I couldn't tell you. I haven't been to Vegas since 2020.

[A]

You're not a Vegas person.

[B]

I love that Vegas girl. There's I, I the aspects that you probably like about Vegas, which means, like, the food and the food and challenge. Entertainment. Yeah.

[A]

That's all I care about. I don't do anything else. I literally go up. Like, I was making a list of who I want to see. I'm like, I want to see J. Lo. I want to see Donny Osmond. I want to see Backstreet Boys at the Sphere. Now I want to see Hilary Dove. I make food of lickless. The golden steer has the best lobster tails. Benihana. Holly Madison just went there. It's inside the west gate. She gets the best Benihana. You'll to. So I made a list to go there. Like, I'm trying to find more, like, kids stuff. So we have, like, a full reason to go. Because I want to do stuff with the kids during the day, but I'm like, I need to find better kids stuff, cuz stuff we went to was, like, not that great last time. So if you're in Vegas. So I'm trying to go. Yeah, maybe February, March. I would love to do more shows there. So I don't know. I love Vegas. I think you need to give it another try. Maybe for h. Duff. Yeah, maybe. Well, I would love to see it, because I feel like I'll see it on Tik Tok and like, I'll have fun while I'll be good.

[B]

Damn, I wish I. Yeah. Because I genuinely love all her music. There's not one album I I dislike. Even when. Oh, my God. The. When she had that. Oh, there's a stranger in my room and she had that little, like, brunette bob. It was like, so it was a severe bob.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I love Hilarina wig. Oh, love Hilary.

[A]

That's why I love the wake up one so much. And I just like, wake up the way she, like, bobs her head with it, too.

[B]

People talking, talk about. And then her knees are kind of.

[A]

Like, bent in telling lies. Well, that. I love that. Oh, no, that's the wrong one. That's Lips are sealed. Okay.

[B]

With Haley.

[A]

Wait, is that what you were starting to say?

[B]

No, no.

[A]

Oh, doesn't it start the same, though? I know what you mean, because I always wake up people talking.

[B]

They talk about me. They know my name. They think they know everything, but they.

[A]

Don'T know anything about me.

[B]

Give me a dance floor. Give me a DJ Give me a record. Forget what they say. I guess you're right. Do you hear them? They talk about us telling lies yeah, I see.

[C]

That's gonna be a Trishma Hillary Duff song.

[A]

Because Hillary and Haley, the. Our lips are sealed People talking They.

[B]

Talk about me they know my name they think they know but that sounds.

[A]

Like the other one. People talk.

[B]

Do you hear them? They talk about us telling lies well, that's no surprise.

[A]

It sounds so close. Okay. You're so good with it. Yeah. We could recreate Material Girls. Haley. That was great. Where'd she go? I loved her.

[B]

I heard she was feuding with Hillary because they haven't been photographed together in, like, over six years. Yeah. And Haley Duff back to Ashton Tisdale. Haley Duff liked one of Ashley Tisdale's recent Instagram posts.

[A]

Okay, so we don't like her. Yeah, sorry. Right, right. Oh, no, I loved Haley Duff. I loved her in, like, Legally Blonde Search for All Woods. Yeah, she's a good one. All right. Well, that's. That's sad about that. Well, thanks for the updates on Ashley Tisdale. And, you know, like, you said, whatever. I guess a husband trying to stick up for his wife is cute in theory.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I hate it. Moses ever was like, hey, back off, Colleen. I'd be like, okay, stop. I can do this myself, you know? I don't know. Like, you laugh because it'd be weird, right? You just sent messages to Shane. Like, we don't. Like, it's so weird. Like, oh, stop. I guess it's against me that it can pat. What? I do not even have the past. But in past, when other people's, like, partners speaks on, like, the feud I have with that person, I'm just like, well, I'm not talking. I'm not. I don't care about you, about this person.

[C]

No. But our relationship is the opposite. I usually calm the opposite. I'm like, you don't need to respond. You don't need, like, yes, yes.

[A]

You always tell me that, which is. It helps. It's good advice for everybody. Just, you don't need to respond about everything.

[B]

Well, another Disney star that is feuding with Bretman Rock, of all people. I literally just found this, like, on my way here. But Bretman Rock talked about his dislike of Vanessa Hudgens, which kind of gagged me. I'm like, baby V, I didn't know.

[A]

Also, yeah, it's giving Quentin Tarantino just randomly hating people, and it's, like, not the brand. When we see, like, he's not really doing anything but like Bretman, you're so loved. Everyone loved. When you're so loved and unpromatic. You really. Who said it? Oh, Bone Yang said it, and Tina Fey said about him. He's like, when you're, like, so popular and, like, you can't have an opinion anymore. And I think that might be the case with, like, an Alex Earl, a Bretman rock. Like, you are so loved. Like, you are not controversial. Like, just say nothing.

[B]

This question will always get you in trouble on a podcast we got. You got to add it to your band list, which is, like, the most disappointing celebrity encounter. Because that's what got Tana in trouble with Victoria Justice.

[A]

You're right. What a crazy question to ask. That is just like baiting. So what? Somebody do we hate? Okay. Oh, no. A podcast is y. Who did this? Who baited him?

[B]

He was on Sweet or Savory with Alyssa and A.J. raphael.

[A]

Okay. Love the names.

[B]

And he. At first he got asked about his, like, least favorite celebrity encounter or most disappointing celebrity encounter, and he gave the initials, like, vh. So he was trying to be a little vague at first. Again, very Tana, censoring the name in that one podcast. But then putting I just talked about Victoria justice in her blog.

[A]

It's like, okay.

[B]

But Bretman said that he came across Vanessa during a Coachella pre pandemic, and they were both guests of a vegan gummy vitamin brand. Oh, it all comes down to Sugar Bear Hair, as always. Damn. 2019 sugar bear hair.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Was a mess.

[A]

They were the culprit everywhere.

[B]

She said that Bretman said that he saw the brand's chief executive officer and he was trying to get his attention, and he was, like, waving at him. But he was the brand's chief executive officer, was CEO, was talking to Vanessa Hudgens, and Vanessa thought that Bretman was trying to get her attention, and she, like, hid herself to avoid, like, seeing Bretman or getting recognized by Bretman.

[A]

Oh, but he wasn't trying to get her.

[B]

No, he was trying to talk to the CEO of Sugar Bear Hair.

[A]

Well, that's okay. That's more embarrassing on her part.

[B]

But yeah, yeah. He said, first of all, I'm not saying hi to you. I was always Team Sharpay. Let's just get that out of the way. Second of all, you're not even Mexican. And third of all, I am not a fan.

[A]

Okay. Damn.

[B]

And then Bretman even questioned the public, handing her the Coachella Queen title. I just don't give a F. I still don't give a F. And he pointed out that both of them were there for the same reason, getting the same kind of passes, and reiterated that he was not a fan of hers. Girl, you're not above me. I'm not under you. I'm Filipino. You can't even like your own people.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

Bretman added, oh, okay. Wow.

[A]

Well, you know, I don't know. I don't know if I can comment on that, but I love Bretman. So go off then, you know, I get it. Yeah, I get it. Heck yeah.

[B]

That is really embarrassing when you think that you're the one that, like, someone's getting recognized. Maya Hawke similarly said this. Like she was out with her dad and a fan came up and Ethan Hawke was like, no, no, I'm not taking any photos right now. And he goes, I don't know who you are. I wanted a photo with Robin from Stranger Things.

[A]

My hawk said that story.

[B]

Yeah, that's a crazy story.

[A]

And Malcolm said that to me. Like, I knew once they were like, who are you? I mean, that's a good story. It's a cute story. But that is so funny. That happened too, with. Who was it? God, who was it? How? At an airport. Oh, my God. Why is it. No, it was some kind of a list. It was just recent. It was two Make a Wish kids. Did you hear about this?

[B]

No.

[A]

And the person was like, trying to find his, like, make a wish, like, son on the trip or whatever. And the person's like, you got your picture. You happy? Like you got it. Like, you have to look this up. It's a big.

[B]

Was it Hilary Swank?

[A]

Hillary Swank.

[B]

That is crazy.

[A]

And she had like retract it and apologize because the dad's like, I literally was just trying to find my two terminally ill children. Like, I wasn't trying to like, take a picture of you.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

I guess he's like taking a picture of them at the airport or something. And then she like, got. Got it. Got the picture you wanted. Like.

[B]

Wow. Okay. So the Jada Boffis was taking her sons, Mason, who's 7 and Jack, 4, on a make a Wish trip to Disneyland.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And she claimed that Hillary Swank snapped at her when she mistakenly thought that she was taking photos. Oh. Of the actress's two year old sons. Two year old twins claim. I was walking next to Hillary Swank and I did a double take on her because it's Hillary Swank and I'm a fan of her movies and stuff. And I was trying to find my son during his Make a Wish Trip. And she turned around and snapped. Yeah, you're right. You got what you needed. Get. Got. Get what you came for. Enjoy that picture.

[A]

Crazy.

[B]

Oh, my God. She's. Ma', am, I wasn't trying to take a photo of you. I was trying to find my two terminally ill boys at baggage claim.

[A]

But, like, did he take a picture? That's what I was, like, confused.

[B]

She said that she doesn't. That she didn't take a photo. Like, she didn't even get her phone out until after.

[A]

Oh, so they just, like, got their phone out, like, happy.

[B]

Oh, okay, now. Sorry, I just got to that part of the article. So she took her phone out to call her husband to try to see if he had her kids, and she was trying to call him. That happens to me with JLo. I took out at American Idol. I took out my phone to, like, fix my. Like, look at myself, to fix my hair. And Jayla was backstage. She goes, no, no. No photos.

[A]

And I was like, oh, my God, that's so embarrassing. That's so embarrassing. Even if I know someone clear as day is taking a photo, and no way. Because it's just. All of. It's weird. I'll, like, look at the camera and be like, what the. But that made me a sub. Like you said. Maybe someone is just taking a selfie. Maybe they're just looking themselves. So no matter what, that's, like, so embarrassing.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What do you mean? I know George Clooney has done that in restaurants, too, where he's like, you know, he has someone to say, not take like, I took a picture of us. Like, what do you mean? Like, you're weird. Celebrities are just, like, weird. It's so odd. Like, why would you. Because I think Hillary Swank then apologized. I think she, like, like, did say something like, oh, sorry. Because that's crazy.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Because people do do that, but you just have to acknowledge that you have no control over it. You just have to let them be.

[A]

Yeah, but this guy wasn't even doing it. Like, it would be one thing if someone was being shady, sneaky with the kids, but another thing to be like.

[C]

But that's when it happens. Like, the one time you do comment, they're not taking a picture.

[A]

No, I know.

[C]

I'm sure it happened to her nine other times where people were taking pictures.

[A]

Yeah. No, I mean, that would be awful. Someone did that, but nothing you can do. Yeah. So crazy. I guess that. Guess that happens a lot. These people think they're. Well, Vanessa Hutchins, though, she catches Strays. I always think of that clip of Nikki Blonsky went. Sorry, V, you remember? You don't know this clip.

[B]

Oh, wait. But she kisses like Efron.

[A]

When he asks Vanessa, do you think him and Vanessa are going to go the distance? No. And now the audience gets like, sorry, V, not happening. You don't remember this? She's like, I love you, girl. But I know Zach. I love him real well. You never seen this clip? It's so good and it's so funny. Do you think that he and Vanessa.

[B]

Will go the distance and get married? Not yet. Just eventually.

[A]

No. Okay. Sorry. Sorry, V. Love you, girl. But it ain't happening. Chick is not happening. Love you, V. She was right.

[B]

She was.

[A]

She was.

[C]

She was manifesting their relationship.

[A]

And that was like three years after Hairspray was shot. Everyone's like, okay, girl, but I always think about that click side. Maybe Vanessa Hutchins. She didn't live down the street. Not anymore. They both have moved. But she used to live down the street from David Dobrik. On the same street.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

She's an end of the cul de sac. Yeah.

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

She probably thought people were coming to her house when they were going to his. Oh, because he used to have. He's still living in a cul de sac. He doesn't live there anymore, so I'm not like doxy anything. He's living called tech and, like. And Zayn lived close to. And again, they don't, like, live there, but, like, people would just, like, wait outside David's house and stuff, so. And hers was maybe like three or four down. And she's there either now. But I wonder if she probably thought, like, all these people are here to see me. They're just waiting at the cul de sac, like, for me to pull out or something like that.

[B]

I'm sure that she's giving.

[A]

Yeah, giving those vibes. Do you ever see the clip too? Since we're talking about them? Vanessa Hutchins and Ashley Tisdale going through the Drive Thru app.

[B]

I do love that clip.

[A]

We should recreate that. Hire some paparazzi. I have five photographers. I have Beth, Dan, Irma, Isaiah Moses. Could be one of the paparazzi. And we'll just go through and be like, hi, can we get the paparazzi, like, ordering for them? She's like, we need a. We need a chicken nugget. I'm like, girl, how many pieces? Like, what do you mean? They act like they've never ordered fast food in their life. They're like, can we get a chicken nugget? Like, what?

[B]

I would love to recreate that.

[A]

And they're just, like, giggling. They look like maybe they were, like, on something. They're like, like, laug their off and the paparazzi are there. That's probably a cool time to be them, though. Like 2008. They're probably, like, the coolest girls. Yeah. In their, like, zip up hoodies, extensions, and ugg boots, they look pretty cool. Is Vanessa Hutchins Filipino? Is she? Oh, she is. Is she?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Oh, I didn't know.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

She's at least half, maybe a quarter, but.

[A]

Oh, okay, I see. So Bretman maybe is like, maybe like.

[B]

Yeah, this is also like a. The podcast he was on was also, like, their two Filipino influencers, also for context. So I think that's why he brought up Filipino.

[A]

Oh. And she doesn't maybe claim it or.

[B]

Like, do stuff for the film, but I think that's why it was like, we're both Filipino. Like, you know, I feel like, like it all comes back to Cat's Eye. But, like, Sophia from Cat's Eyes, Filipino. And she, like, is very big about the representation.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because not a lot of Filipino stars make it big in America.

[A]

Okay. That makes so much more sense then. Okay. I thought it was just like, random. Like, I hate when I was a Hudgins, but it's like, oh, okay. Right? And okay. Oh, I had no idea.

[B]

Her mom is from the Philippines.

[A]

Okay. Yeah. It seems like that would be something.

[B]

You want to uplift other Filipino.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Stars.

[A]

I would think Bretman's probably. You know why I'm on Bretman side on that one. I don't know. I like Vanessa Hutchins, but she does kind of seem probably in 2019, too. That's like, is she dating Austin Butler?

[B]

Oh, is he Coachella?

[A]

She's Coachella Queen. She probably has some type of.

[B]

Yeah, she was dating Austin Butler.

[A]

Yeah. She's probably just like, I'm Coachella Queen.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Bother me. That's why I want to go to Coachella. Like, I really go like that. That sounds like. I don't think you could literally pay me to go unless I was, like, performing, of course. But I wouldn't even that I'm like, oh, I don't know. That's gonna be a lot. But you cannot pay me to just go and attend. I don't care if I'm sided with my hair.

[B]

Couldn't get no.

[A]

Is that. That's what the gag is. Right? But Dramageddon, it Was all about this, like, Coachella. I was like, okay. Like, so weird.

[C]

The next time we'll go is when we take our kids there.

[A]

We're taking our kids to Coachella.

[C]

That's what I'm saying. The only way we go in there is, like, they're going there.

[A]

I don't think they want us to go. If they're gonna go to coachella at, like, 18, I don't think they're gonna.

[C]

Be like, depends what age J.R. but we'll be.

[A]

Could you imagine? Like, I'll come too. Maybe. Maybe they'll want to hang out with us. I do love kids.

[C]

I'm saying, like, the age of people, they are like, half our age. So it's like, that's for us.

[A]

Yeah, but I don't think people go with their kids. Maybe. Maybe they do.

[B]

I think they do.

[A]

Really? Adults go with their adult kids.

[B]

I've seen adults go with, like, young kids before. Like, yeah, okay.

[A]

That seems.

[C]

I've been with, like, celebrities that took their kids there, so it doesn't seem.

[A]

Like a kid friendly place to me. With, like, drugs and heat and desert.

[C]

That's why the parents are there. But at the same time, the parents are celebrities, so they have the artist pass.

[A]

The parents are there to do the drugs.

[C]

Why are they there?

[A]

You're like, that's why they're there.

[C]

It's away from the problems, the access. What if you're there, your kids are not going to do.

[A]

But you're saying they're there because they're the vip so they're getting their kids in.

[B]

Yeah, I think that's what, like, the benefits of going with a celebrity. Yeah.

[A]

And were the kids enjoying it?

[C]

Yeah, because they got backstage, they got to meet all the artists. They got the. To see all the shows they wanted.

[A]

You know, I don't know how I feel about that. Like, would we, like, okay, right. Like, I know people do it all the time, but there's something kind of like, oh, maybe. I don't know. I guess that's fine. Like, to just be like, oh, like, I don't know. It doesn't matter. Not my problem. Do whatever you want. Me just trying to get in everyone's business. I guess that is the nature of the podcast. I love Tiana's TikTok. She goes, I have so much to comment on on the Internet. Why did you cancel? After I was on the PH with Brooke for an hour, I'm like, girl, just bring it back. Then you. We. You guys ended it. Like, people wanted it. No one Was calling for it to be canceled. Has so much to talk about.

[B]

Said that you didn't want to talk about people anymore. Like, literally, y' all were two were the ones.

[A]

You know what? And I feel around that I feel her. There's so many times, like, I'm ready. I just want to be in my own little bubble. My own. But, you know, it is kind of fun every time I. It was hard over break to like, not comment on so many things. Like, I would, like, like, I, like, I just want to comment. Like, that's why I made the tick tock last time before we started. I'm gonna have to comment on this Camilla subscription thing because this is like, it's so hard not to. When everyone has an opinion, you just, like, want to give yours too. You just want to be like, me too, actually.

[B]

Oh, my gosh. It's so fun.

[A]

Did she ever do a follow up, any of that controversy? Is she still doing the classes? Someone said that they got a call and I don't know. I wonder if she's still going with it. Probably got a lot of publicity becoming her.

[B]

Let me see. I don't have to see if there was an update.

[C]

I said something about her getting sued maybe.

[B]

Oh, I don't know.

[A]

Her getting sued. I said something about Haley Bailey getting sued for what her ex is. Okay, hopefully this is real and I'll go hoops craze thing, but I think it was real. It was on Twitter. It said that her ex that she talked about the two Coke cans about is suing her for that.

[B]

For saying his schlong is too big.

[A]

For, like, the humiliation or something. Like, he can't, like, I thought for real on X. I don't know if this is a real thing, but that's crazy.

[B]

Let me see.

[A]

Haley Kale or something is her name.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Who reported a Page Six.

[B]

Page Six. Ex NFL pro Matt Khalil. Oh, gotta pop up. Sue's ex wife Haley, for saying his penis size ended their marriage. What?

[A]

Isn't that crazy?

[B]

In a lawsuit filed Tuesday and obtained by tmz, he claimed Bailey's degrading and deeply personal comments subjected him to unwanted attention and evasive commentary from the public. I do believe that because he got that one offer from, like, I'm sure he got several offers, but I know there was one adult website that, like, made a press release about, like, how much they would offer him to show his schlong.

[A]

Yeah. And that's what I was going back to your, like, last year is like, I feel like Most people are like, yeah, that's cool. Like, oh, I got a big thing. But I think, like, Pete Davidson has said, like, some people are probably like, I don't want that out there. Like, why did you say that about me? Which is. I get it. Like, I get it. I think, like, yeah, we all, like, think about it and be like, oh, my God, that's like, it's funny. Or it's, like, hot. Like, people. Oh, my God, that's like, a compliment. But, yeah, we're not, like, super private people. So I'm like, oh, it's like, whatever. But I suppose if you're trying to be private or if you're conservative, maybe. I don't know.

[B]

Like, and I think so. The Internet, for the most part, has not a lot of decorum these days. Like, no, the Internet does not know how to act. Like, they hear someone's got a big schlong. Everyone's commenting. Show us that thing, you know? Yeah, they know Connor story has a big butt. All the questions you get asked, how you get that big butt. What's your glute routine? Like, let's do that.

[A]

But, you know, so not do that in 2020.

[B]

Let's have some glasses, have some decorum. As Tati Westbrook timelessly said, you know, time and place. Yeah.

[C]

People have, like, families and.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Suddenly your cousin and nephew and.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, everyone in your family. That's true. Your privates.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, my God. I wonder if he's doing it for, like, damages. Like, is it monetary or just, like, a retraction? Like, what is he see.

[B]

Oh, yeah. He did say in the lawsuit that his family was also being affected because they were also. His family is also getting messages. He is asking for. Oh, yeah, suing for damages, exceeding over $75,000.

[A]

What's that mean, exceeding over, like, over 75,000. Is he asking for or.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

Isn't he rich, too? Because I think, like, that was the whole thing, right? He was, like, a rich football player.

[B]

Yeah, he plays for the Vikings.

[A]

I'm sure he had to, like, pay her something. I mean, I don't know. I assume, like, alimony or something crazy. That's crazy. But I guess. Yeah, I guess makes sense because it's so personal. I think if it was like, anything else, like, he cheated. He was this. I think. Okay. It's just. You're just telling your story.

[B]

But yeah.

[A]

Yeah, it's probably like, exposing, like, nudes or something.

[B]

Like, that's kind of like, oh, yeah, I wonder. I mean, I feel like they'd probably settle. Like, I feel like they wouldn't want to go to court over it, but.

[A]

No, that just gets messy. And it's. The whole thing's expensive. It's gonna cost more for that. Maybe he paid her, like, some alimony so he knows she has the money to, like, pay him well. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Let them be cake.

[A]

That was crazy. And then she has like a. Here's my $20,000 part. Yeah, that's why we talked about last episode, too. It's better to just not show what you got. Keep it private. Then there's no oho on you, you know?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Evil. Oh, how do you say it in Spanish? There is oho azul. I think evil eye is blue.

[C]

Oh, that's blue eyes.

[A]

What's the evil eye? There's something with an egg that you put underneath your bed.

[B]

Oh, I do remember you telling me.

[A]

That it takes away the bad, but. Oh, is like evil eyes.

[B]

Yeah. I don't know.

[A]

I'm getting two things mixed up.

[C]

Probably because they do usually have the hand with the eye and it's blue.

[A]

Yeah, it's a little hamsa, but in. In Hispanic culture, it's like something else. Something. Oh, I don't know.

[B]

You know, I think it's.

[A]

Oh, you said it, Elmo. Oh, have you been saying it? Sorry.

[B]

I think el mal de ojo, I think.

[A]

Oh, okay. You probably know that sounds right.

[B]

Yeah, I think. Because I think that's evil. And then I. Yeah, yeah, that's.

[A]

That's a long. No evil eye here.

[B]

Latino.

[A]

I love that. Did you see the new Becky G documentary on Netflix called Rebecca? It's so good. I, like, love her so much.

[B]

I do love Becky. She's also very sweet.

[A]

Like, have you met her?

[B]

Yeah, she came. She's come into our work a few times. She's always very nice. Yeah.

[A]

To do interviews.

[B]

And she's very, like, just nice to everyone.

[A]

That's what I've heard.

[B]

Yeah. Everyone around.

[A]

Yeah. She has, like, a crazy, like, story, like, with her dad and stuff, and she kind of had to, like, like, take over because her dad had, like, like an addiction. And then she had, like, helped, like, take over for the family. She just seemed, like, super sweet and hard working. Better than the Chevy Chase documentary, that's for sure. What's happening over there?

[C]

Oh, I was looking up the Spanish.

[A]

Oh, you were smiling.

[C]

No, because I just don't know how to read it exactly. But it is El Maldi and then oj. Oh, how do you. I was wondering.

[A]

That's blue eyes.

[C]

Because they have always, you know, the.

[A]

Yeah, that's the evil eye. They have an emoji of that. I like to put that up every now and then. I think the emoji really wards off an evil eye. Should always put it on there, actually. Just a little.

[C]

I mean. Yeah, emojis are symbolism. I mean, it is symbolism.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Can do stuff.

[B]

There's been these memes, like, from Drag Race, because the. In the work room, the queens, there was one queen that had, like an evil eye print shirt, but also an evil eye print. Like an evil eye, like, pendant, like, necklace. And there's all these memes like, damn, how many evil spirits you warding off?

[A]

Like, hey, but that's me. I have evil eyes everywhere around the house. I have bracelets, evil eyes. I. You just never know. Better safe than sorry. I like her. What's her name? Who's wearing it? That's where it's at.

[B]

Oh, my God. I forget which one was wearing.

[A]

We had started watching it. That was on our list.

[B]

Yeah, it's really good.

[A]

We'd never have things to watch it. We didn't watch that because we've been watching Big Bang Theory still. I'm like, okay, move on from that. I love that. Yeah, we need to. We need to get on. Yeah. You know, it's good. Some people, they say not to tattoo an evil eye on you, though, because it's supposed to break, like, when the spirits are gone. So if you have it always on you, it's just always.

[B]

You're always going to be fighting them. Spirits.

[A]

Yeah, I believe in it. Do you believe in spirits? I never talk to you about that.

[B]

Do I believe in spirits? Yeah, I think so.

[A]

Like good spirits, bad spirits.

[B]

Yeah, all that, I think.

[A]

Ghost. Ghosts.

[B]

Yeah, why not?

[A]

You ever see one?

[B]

No, but, like, when people do those little haunted, you know, like, investigations. I. I believe what, like when Demi was saying to a ghost, I believed it.

[A]

Yeah. That it was actually there. Yeah, I believe it too. I feel like more people are in tune with it than others. Maybe there's a ghost in this room.

[C]

No.

[A]

So surgery.

[C]

I would know.

[A]

How would you know?

[C]

Because I'm pretty sensitive to that. Really?

[B]

They come to him in dreams, right?

[C]

What?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

If there was. If anything. If anything died in our house, I would know about it.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Nothing, Right.

[A]

We did hear that ghost one time in our Laura Kenny house.

[C]

That was.

[A]

Yeah. Really bad after we had moved out. That was crazy.

[C]

We both heard that was like classic, you know, like the hair, you know, I mean, up on your back.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Feeling.

[A]

It was like a girl, like, screaming, like, literally, like bloody murder, like, in my. In our old bedroom.

[C]

And we both came from upstairs. We don't know where from, but upstairs.

[A]

Oh, I ran right out of that house. I was like. Because I had heard it, and then I didn't think anything. And then it happened, like, maybe a couple minutes later, and I'm like.

[C]

And I went outside to see if it's from the neighbors or something I coined somehow through. And.

[B]

Oh, scary.

[A]

I ran because we had the inspector inspection coming that day because we were already out for, like, a couple months when that happened. But I like it. It was 2pm in the afternoon. I was like, I'm sitting outside.

[C]

Whoever was doing work at the house did something bad.

[A]

Energy.

[C]

No, they did something like they use the space or something.

[A]

I hate that. I hate it so much. Oh, my gosh. Because it's also scary. It's just like, what do you do? How do you help a ghost? It's like, you can't run for congress to help a ghost. You know what I mean? What do you do to help people move over?

[C]

There's people that. That's their job. They can do it.

[A]

Oh, to help people cross over. Remember that guy? What was the guy who had Crossing Over? John something. Remember? Do you remember him from Oprah?

[B]

No.

[A]

His show was called Crossing over, and he was, like, real, I think. John Oliver. No, John. John Crossing. And he was on, like, Oprah and stuff, and he would help people cross over. I don't think they have people like that anymore. Because then there's people who just, like, make stuff up or something. There was one on, like, a really old show called, like, the Jenny Jones show, and it was like a medium. What was his name? Did you find out?

[B]

John Edward.

[A]

John Edward. Do you remember him?

[B]

No.

[A]

Oh, really? He was so big. Oh, my God. I, like, loved him in the early 2000s. But there was one on, like, the Jenny Jones show or something, and there was like, a medium. And she was supposed to be talking to people, like, people from, like, the dead. And she's like, yeah, your mom's here. And then she goes, is there anything she wants to say to me? And she goes, the person you thought you was, your dad wasn't like, that was it.

[C]

And then he was like, okay.

[A]

And then I was like, this. And then the TikTok, like, captures, like, this lady was, like, always, like, saying wild stuff and just whatever. But, like, you believe in someone talking to your mom or something, and that's what she said. You're like, what the. So, you know, love it if it's real, But I don't know.

[C]

There's some people are real. There's real. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. I think some people.

[C]

There's people that. They get verified of how real they are through certain tests and things.

[A]

Can I say that? Like, what if you don't want to be contacted when you're dead? But I'm like, don't. Don't reach out to me.

[C]

They. Well, going back to the telepathy tapes, there are people that, you know, the parents really want to talk to. Kids that passed away. Uhhuh. And then when they put it out there, the. The medium, the person was actually getting contacted by the kids. Like, they were talking to the person ahead of time, so. Yeah. So. So it wasn't like they were. Yeah. Bothering the kids.

[A]

No, no. I'm thinking family, for sure. Like, why wouldn't she want to hear from you from the other side of the. It's more. I'm guess I'm thinking in celebrity terms. What if there's, like, a fan or something that wants to contact me at all hours of the night, and I'm like, let me rest in peace, please. Like, stop. Stop contacting me. You know what I mean? So. Because people do that with, like, you know, Kurt Cobain, like, let's contact him. And I'm like, how about he doesn't want to talk to you? Like, what? That's so weird. Like, family. Yes. Okay. I can see that. Because obviously, like, the movie Ghost, they come to Whoopi Goldberg. Yeah. I don't know. Also, sometimes I'm just. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I guess I haven't been through, like, grief, so I don't know how it is. I'd be kind of scared, but I guess it's kind of nice to know someone's okay. Maybe you just want to know someone's okay.

[C]

Yes. Especially those parents. They really wanted to.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Have one more connection with their kids.

[A]

Weapon. John Edward. Is he still around? He's just done by. Exhausting to do that for everybody, too. It's probably a lot mentally.

[B]

Oh, no, I don't see anything. Since eight years ago is the last, like, thing I've seen.

[A]

He's done.

[C]

We need a medium to contact him, you know?

[A]

Right. That's. Where'd he go?

[B]

Oh, he. In 2023, he did an interview. Sharing, Energetic parenting.

[A]

Energetic parenting.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, he just switched to Ms. Rachel. All of a sudden. He's like, I'm gonna be blippy.

[B]

Now, he often applies his intuition to the art of raising kids.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Their job is to prepare them for the world that they're going to encounter. It's looking down the line or probability of what they may encounter and then putting in their energetic backpack what they might need in that moment as a resource.

[A]

Okay, that sounds a little kooky, but see where the kid is going. You'll need this. Okay.

[B]

Speaking of psychics. Speaking of psychics. That's so Raven.

[A]

Ooh, love. I do love Raven.

[B]

I was scrolling through. I'm like, how do I have a transition?

[A]

That's a good one.

[B]

Her wife, Miranda. Mayday. I hope I'm pronouncing her last name right. Setting the record straight after she said that she's richer than Raven Simone.

[A]

Oh, I didn't know she said that.

[B]

Yeah. So she said it a few months ago on their podcast.

[A]

She said, I'm richer than Raven.

[B]

Yeah, because she said that she kept getting, like, all the people commenting like, you're only married to Raven for her money. That makes sense. And she said that she is good on the money front. Like, she actually is richer than Raven is because her family invented the mud flaps on trucks.

[A]

Oh, that's kind of cool. I do love that it's giving Roby Michelle invented Post its because it's so.

[B]

Specific and it is one of those. Those things that you never think about being invented.

[A]

She like, yeah, that makes sense. Gretchen Wieners with toaster strudel. Yeah. Yeah. That someone had to invent it.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Okay. You probably would be pretty rich.

[B]

Yeah. She said that she has been very fortunate to grow up in a family that had money and she has never wanted or needed anything in her life. But she did say, yes, I know that's privilege. But then she got so much hate for saying that, which really proves, like, you're damned if you do, damn if you don't.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You're getting hit either way. Because then people were like, well, it's different because Raven has been working since she was a baby and she made that money herself. It's not her family's money, it's her money.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And then so she had to go ahead and clarify again on her podcast that, yes, she knows that Raven has been working her whole life and that her money is her own and that the situation is different. She said, Raven, of course, is wealthier than I am on her own because Raven was a millionaire and she's been working for 40 years. Of course there's a difference there. She said, I just Shared that information to give more context to why meeting Raven had nothing to do with what she has in the bank.

[A]

Yeah, I kind of get that. That. I guess, like, I always do believe, like, defending yourself is just, like, exhausting. I do it, but I get it if, like, everyone's like, you're a gold digger. Like, I come from money.

[B]

Yeah. And they've been together so long because they got married in 2020, I believe, and they were dating for three years before that, so. Oh, no, they were dating for Five years before 10 years. Yeah.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Even, like, after 10 years, it's like, do you need to defend it anymore? I was like, you know, I feel like at the beginning of any relationship, you, like, try to defend it so hard. Like, no, this. And then after a while, just like, anything people say, I'm like, okay.

[C]

Like, you can't have a conversation with somebody that hates you.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Because you saw when she said that, they shifted the conversation, like, oh, no. So now you're privileged. Okay, now we're gonna hate you soon because you're privileged.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. It's like, you can never win. I kind of like them as a couple. I think they're good, minus the choline thing. I think they have. They have a pretty good. They probably also. My take is, like, they didn't know.

[B]

Yeah. The full context of everything. Yeah.

[A]

I think a lot of people get that. They go on and they're like, jack and Hill went on a podcast. Was it the Lawton or something? And they had, like, no idea about Lipstick Gate? And they were just like, oh, that's crazy that people were mad at you. But, like, they're like, why were people mad? Like, you know, they just didn't, like, get the full. I'm like, you just. You don't have the full scope. Like, you don't know. Oh, my gosh. That was like. Did you watch Gwyneth Paltrow on Amy Poehler?

[B]

The clips, at least?

[A]

Yeah, I would have watched that podcast.

[B]

Because I see this on YouTube.

[A]

Oh, it is. I need to start watching it because I. I always want to watch podcasts or listen to podcasts, and I am not listening to views 2026. That is not in my thing, so I want to listen to that one. But I saw, like, Gwyneth Belcher. What? And her question was like, you know, speaking of cold, like, how was working on Cold Mountain? Did you see that clip? And then she's like, oh, I wasn't in that. And then she goes, oh, like, do you think someone wrote that question for her and, like, just did not research it?

[B]

Well, yeah, for sure.

[A]

Do you think that person got fired?

[B]

No, that happens all the time with, like, producers.

[A]

Crazy.

[B]

But that's a.

[A]

That's kind of like a big mess up, though. You know what I mean? It's not like they got something like a little wrong. That was just like, not even her. That was.

[B]

Well, we had a similar one. Your first interview with Tana, when you were like, what was it like when you got canceled for making fun of British people's penises. And Tana said, I never said that. Right. She did. I wasn't here to give the receipts, but.

[A]

Oh, okay. Yeah.

[B]

But then you quickly went, oh, I don't know why this is in here. Oscar wrote this.

[A]

Did we edit it out? We kept it in. Did you edit that one? Well, you should edit it out. No, it is the worst. No, but it's the word. Not like. No, that one. Yeah, because even that's like on such a smaller scale. But it is like. And ever since, if I don't know something for sure and it's not your fault, obviously, but I just like. And you were accurate. But in my head, I should have, like, researched and like, done it for sure. That's why I always like to do what you do the most part. Even the hills. I remember when Heidi was here, there was a ton of health questions and I was like, I'm not gonna do a repeat just in case if they.

[B]

Ask a follow up and you don't know.

[A]

Yeah, like, when was that? Yeah, someone else too. I said something like, they cried and like, I don't think I cried. And I was like, oh, okay. That was also on these notes. So. Yeah, it's crazy. That one was crazy. That one's like a big one, though. That one's like such a different person. They handled it well. But I was like, that's embarrassing.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And such a big podcast too.

[B]

It happens all. I mean, it is a little bit different cuz, like, I mean, it's happened for us on carpets and stuff, but in carpets you don't have the names of everyone who's going to be there. So sometimes. Oh, my God. There's this one clip that I love. I need Jimmy to put it in because I know Jimmy will know exactly what I'm talking about. You know, Ivy woke Ivy walk.

[A]

No, I love the name of drag queen.

[B]

No, she's. She's a girl. She was in a Nora. She was in that one show about the Teacher. The gay teacher. She was in that? Yes. And she's kind of like a tick tock celebrity, but she's been in a couple, like, movies and shows and stuff. But there's. She was at the premiere of Fear street on Netflix and she was like, doing press and it was like an outlet, like, towards the end, you know, so it was like a small outlet. And I was like, so what was it like to be a part of this movie? And she panics. Like, you see it in her face and her publicist, like, behind her, like, comes back to and to kind of like be like, oh, my God. I. I wasn't in the movie.

[A]

So first of all, I have to ask you, what was the process of making this movie? Like, oh, my God, I wasn't in it. You aren't? No, I'm not in the movie. You're on the list. Yeah, I wasn't. I want to say to all the viewers at home, I wasn't in the movie. I would have liked to be. You know what? But I wasn't in the movie. You're technically in the movie now because you're being interviewed and you're on the list. Should I lie and pretend that I was in the movie? No, it's okay. I just want an excuse to talk to you. To be honest, I had such a fun time with the whole cast and the crew. Oh, I would love that question. I would just say, like, it was great experience. It was a little cold up there in Vancouver. She should have played it off as she was.

[B]

You could just see how panicked she was.

[A]

Young.

[B]

She's pretty young. Yeah. Let me see how old she is.

[A]

I guess, like, that case, like you, I mean, you gotta just expect people don't know who you are. And why are you doing press if you're not in the movie? I'd be confused too. I'd be like, wait, why are you here?

[B]

I think it's one of those things where like, they. Because at the time, Gosh, she's only 21.

[A]

Oh, that's sad.

[B]

Beer Streak came out. So it's 2021. So she was a teenager. And maybe I imagine it was like, you know, they always have influencers at these premieres. I feel like, because she was on Tick Tock at that time, I don't know she started anything yet. So I feel like it's one of those things where, you know, tick tockers on the carpet.

[A]

And if you don't know, because I.

[B]

Love the sheer, like, fear in her, I just.

[A]

I wouldn't Want to do. I wouldn't do press at a carpet that I wasn't in something because that, for that reason, I'd be like, oh, no. Like, because what do you ask someone if they're not in the movie? Like, seriously, like, what are you. What are you supposed to ask?

[B]

Didn't you do press at the Wicked for good premiere? I thought I saw you on that big E Live show, jumbotron.

[A]

Oh, did I?

[B]

Did I? Oh, yeah.

[A]

Oh, yeah. We just talked about that. Why was I there? What did they even ask me? That is a good question. Oh, you know what it was. Okay, I know what it was and why I said it because they said and they told me before and on air. They were like, last time we showed you on the red carpet, and everyone was very mad that we didn't interview. So I think they just did it because people were spamming them last time to interview me. And so they did a sympathy interview. But that was a good interview.

[B]

You're right.

[A]

I don't know what I was doing. But I saw Bob the Drag Queen up there and I was like, me next. I said yes, because I was like, yeah, that's so. Because I remember when that all happened. But Loki yet is kind of embarrassing because you're like, what are you. What are you doing?

[B]

That cracks me up.

[A]

That's so funny.

[B]

Well, I do like your technique, though, of just making something up. I think that's fine.

[A]

I think for sure. You always gotta do that. Just pretend you're in it. That'd be so fun, actually. Okay. I'm starting press events.

[B]

It kind of reminds me of Mia Goth, you know Mia Goth?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Maxine Pearl.

[A]

Yes, yes.

[B]

She did an interview also with W Magazine, and she talked about. I literally have just seen, like, pull quotes on Twitter from this interview, and it cracks me up. I kind of think she's a key and I'm kind of, like, in love with her now. She talked about lying in order to get jobs. And the way she says it is, like, so us coded. She said, I will lie about pretty much anything if it means I'm going to get a job that I want. If you need me to horseback ride, speak Chinese, and tap dance, funnily enough, those are my lifelong passions of mine. I love that mentality.

[A]

I like casting. You said that these have all your skills. And I would check every single box. Like, ninja, good with swords. Cooking, stripping, like, everything good with sauce cream. I was. I put every single thing on there. And then like, yeah, they get casted for stuff. I told You. I did that movie with a rock and I said that I was like a pole dancer, which I thought was. Oh, this one, she looked like a stripper or something like that. But no, they wanted me to like climb that pole. I think it was called Faster, I think was the movie. So I like get to set and they're like, okay, you're gonna like be up on the pole while he runs through. And I like try to like lift myself up, but I couldn't. And they're like, what the. They were like so pissed. I was like, I can like dance on it. And like, no, get her out of here. I did end up being in the back. Back somewhere, but I was not on the main stage. Yeah. Don't lie about it. Oh, I can do it. But yeah, sometimes they need you. I could learn. I guess you could learn Chinese might be hard. Like off the cuff. Like just like quickly, that is. I do love her. I don't like, I've never seen her movies, but I like her vibe.

[B]

Me too. I. I mean, I saw the X trilogy. That might have been the only thing I've seen her.

[A]

It's called the X trilogy.

[B]

Why is it. Because it's X. Pearl and Maxine with three X's and Max Diamond. Oh.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah. She's like a super villain. Super.

[B]

Not super villain, just a girl who is a murderer. But yeah.

[A]

Oh, like monster.

[B]

Yeah, sure.

[A]

Glamorous.

[B]

Well, yeah, I guess Maxine is more glamor. It's more like small town girl. Vibes is X. And then Pearl, she's also like a small town girl. And then. And Maxine, she moves to LA and then she's more glam. Okay. Yeah. She's a Hollywood it girl or aspiring actress. Aspiring starlet. Yeah.

[A]

Do you know the it girl from I Love LA is Forrest Ricker's daughter?

[B]

Yes. True Whitaker.

[A]

I had no idea.

[B]

Yeah. God. She was at the Jake Weber party, I think.

[A]

Oh my God.

[B]

I know. I really met Ms. South. Like hardcore.

[A]

How does he know everybody like that?

[B]

God only knows. But it can't. I just figured it makes sense.

[A]

Oh, I do love her. I know. Because we just finished that. We're like a little late. We just finished that one. And like, was. I like, I really like her.

[B]

And then we're like, oh, yeah.

[A]

Is that her first acting role or she's just been.

[B]

I think so. And she. It, like in all her interviews, like, she comes up a lot in my TikTok and she is just like so funny. Like, yeah, just like she's so open and honest about like the Nepal baby of it all. And she, like, does not care. And she's like, has the best personality.

[A]

I love that. Everyone wants that. That's what everyone wants is just to be like, just own it. Because Kate Winslet just did something to where she talked about her sons being like, she's. I don't like the term Nepo baby. They don't have a leg up. It's like, what do you mean? Their mom is Kate Winslet. Of course they do. I like, why is that a bad thing? Like, you know, that's what we're talking about earlier about the Coachella. Like, having kids meet people backstage. But I guess I would do. I first was like, I don't like that. But then I was like, if Malibu had the chance to meet the K Pop demon hunter girls. Oh, hell yeah. Anything I could do to get her to meet them. Because they, like, love so, like. Yeah. Why wouldn't you use that? Why wouldn't you? And also, yeah, they have a leg up. Whatever. Just say that. They're like.

[B]

They're never acknowledge it.

[A]

Yeah, like, I do love that. But true. Whitaker feels so different than Forest Whitaker. So when I found that out, I.

[B]

Was like, I know, because the way she is. So she gives off just like unserious.

[A]

And he gets off so serious. That's why I was like, oh, my gosh, that's so crazy when I find out something like that too. Laura Harvey is Steve Harvey's daughter.

[B]

Oh, well, yes. You knew that. Well, yes.

[A]

To me, again, that's so like, so different. Like, what do you mean? Like, those. When I think of it, girls, I think of them and I'm just like, like. And. Yeah, but I don't think. Yeah, again, I don't think the Nepo baby is like a bad thing. People just want you to own.

[B]

Just own. Yeah.

[A]

And definitely don't deny. Don't be like, I had to work harder. No, you didn't. Maybe you got an in. Cuz getting an in, especially in the entertainment industry, that's the hardest part.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Having connection.

[B]

Yeah. The networking and cuz a lot of people come and they don't know, like, where to start. And that's why they start, like, background and like, extra work. Because that literally is like the only way you could end up on a set that's like, accessible, you know, and.

[A]

Then hoping you get discovered there being someone. I've been doing it literally for like 20. Okay. Literally 19 years. But yeah, it's like you never had literally up until 2024 was the first time I ever had any meeting with an agent because of this podcast. But I literally was doing everything I could to be famous. And you just. It's just hard. It's just hard. And yeah, if my parents were Shane Dawson and Rylan Nadler could have gotten to influencing a little sooner, but.

[C]

Same thing. Like if your dad is a lawyer and he has a firm and you go, of course you're going to get a job and you're going to work in a farm. You know, it's like.

[A]

And you probably can make partner quicker than anyone else.

[C]

You will be partner because you dad owns.

[A]

Your name's on there.

[C]

They want you to own the business. But I don't know. I mean, I don't. All the kids that I know, they are as if not more talented than their parents because of all the influence they had all their life.

[A]

Life.

[C]

So I think, you know, it's not like it's not deserving. They have. They grew up in that environment. They know more than we do. They. So I don't know. I don't feel bad about anyone being a Nepo baby. That's not a thing. It's more of a jealousy thing, unfortunately.

[A]

Right. But I think people just don't like that. People don't acknowledge it. Like, they. Like Kate winds up being like, there's no leg up. I think people are just more.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

They don't care.

[C]

It's like they. And they two. The kids, they want to feel like they did something on their own. So it's a. Yeah, it's a. In that sense, they never. Yeah. You just have to acknowledge it.

[A]

You just have to acknowledge it. I'd use it to my advantage.

[C]

Some do. Yeah, some do.

[A]

Who is it? Jack Quaid's a big one right now. That's everywhere.

[B]

Yeah. I love Jack Wade.

[A]

I love him, too. Did you know his dad was in that bow or. He was.

[B]

Yeah, he. God, he did something last year where he was promoting something. He did like a little ad that was like, all about, like being a Nepo baby and like people making. Yeah.

[A]

Oh, I love that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Guess like if it's Randy Quaid or Dennis Quaid, like, which one is he?

[B]

What was the first Quaid you said?

[A]

Randy Quaid from National Lampoon's Vacation Chevy Cheese.

[B]

I don't even know that. So I would have just thought, you sound good. Sorry to that, man.

[A]

But their brothers, I think Dennis quite agreed. And Rainy Quaid's like, kind of look crazy looking. I think he's passed Away. But like, yeah, yeah, rip, you know, but. But you know, maybe think that as the Nepo baby. Like, which one is it? Is it Randy Quater? Who's the other one? Lewis Paulman is another one. He's the one with Jake Shane and Kaia Gerber. Did you see those pictures of them on the beach? It was Lewis Pullman, Kaia Gerber, Jake Shane.

[B]

Who's his parents?

[A]

Bill Palman from Independence Day. Casper, I don't know the dad. And Casper the hot dad.

[B]

I don't know him.

[A]

Oh, my gosh. Do you know Lewis Coleman?

[B]

I do. He's in a Marvel movie.

[A]

Oh, so that's a perfect example then like the Maya Hawked. Ethan Hawke being like, sorry, I don't know your dad. Literally, a lot of people would be like, okay, but that's kind of cool that you don't. That's actually more of a slay and true Whitaker too. Like, I loved la and I just like watched. I loved I love la. And I just. And I looked her up and I was like, like, is that Forest Whitaker's daughter? That's like crazy. I actually didn't know him from anything really either. I mean, like, know the name.

[B]

The name. Same. Yeah, me too. Another I Love LA star, Odessa Aeon, who I love, I'm kind of obsessed with right now between I Love LA and Marty supreme, which. What an iconic year all of a sudden you're having, right? So like, you blow up and get the two, like huge projects at once.

[A]

Yeah, that is crazy. Me this spring.

[B]

True.

[A]

Just kidding there, you know, but kind.

[B]

But she went. She's been going viral because people have been debating about her red carpet looks, like if her hair is real or if it's a wig. And is this the hair she has.

[A]

In I Love la, the curly.

[B]

Yes. And people have been showing like her photos, like throughout the years. Like when she was younger, it wasn't her hair wasn't like as volume voluminous and it was like a lighter color. So people have been comparing her younger versus now. And she got asked about this at the Critics Choice Awards, which kind of iconic, I guess. But like, is your hair a wig? These people like, what?

[A]

The people interviewing are just diabolical. Just ask the questions. Have you been to the cottage? That's it. Like, it's wild. It's wild. These questions, I probably would have told.

[B]

Denny Directo, hey, ask that girl. She's got a wig on right now.

[A]

What publication asked this?

[C]

Fine.

[B]

So not even one of the silly ones.

[A]

They're trying to Get. They're trying to get up there with people. They don't need to Deadline. You're legit. You don't need to get up there with some crazy question. But okay.

[B]

Oh, my God. And she said so she said the gag is the LA premiere was a. Of Marty supreme was a wig. And then the New York premiere, it took me five hours to do my hair, and everyone thinks it's a wig. And let me show you the foot. I mean, both of them look the same. So I'll show you really quick.

[A]

Her hair is giving what I think Elvis's hair will look like when she grows up. Because Elvis hair is so curly.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. Kind of love.

[A]

Yeah. And it has. It's growing out. It's giving that same, like, curl. And I was like, oh, it's hard to take. I have to figure out how to take care of curls because I never took care of mine. Mine were always, like, frizzy and stuff. I need to, like, learn how to take care of curls.

[B]

I guess I can kind of notice the difference. I'm also really bad at not, like, if someone told me, like, when you have wigs on, you never clock it. So I'm not good with clock. I never would have clocked it. I'm not even kidding.

[A]

You thought, this is why you gotta bleached and toned overnight. Like, that's wild. I didn't know.

[B]

Okay, so this is her at the New York premiere. This is her real hair.

[A]

Okay. Gorgeous.

[B]

And then this is her wig.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

At the LA premiere.

[A]

That's crazy. Her real hair looks better than the wig. Yeah. Like, I'm with you. I know wigs. It looks. They both look like they could. They both look like they could be wig. And they both look like they could be hers.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

To me, they look the same.

[B]

Me too. They look the same.

[A]

Like one's just styled a little flatter than the other. But I never.

[B]

I don't know. I never would have looked at her and thought she was wearing a wig either. But I'm very, very bad at clocking.

[A]

I think I like, the hair is just, like, so different, which makes her stand out. Right. Everyone, like, loves her hair and stuff like that. So I think people are just like. Like the Sabrina even Sabrina was getting.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Which I think she confirmed.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Was wigs. But yeah. I think people just think everything's a wig also. But also, like, why. Why do you care? You know what I mean? Like, extensions also like that. It's like, it's in my head, you know, it's on my head. It's real, you know, what do you want me take this off for you? But then she admitted. I love that. She's just like. Yeah.

[B]

She did get into a little bit of controversy after that, though, because then she said that she, like, does her own hair and that she's trying to save money. She's like, a wig like that. A wig that would look like that, I think would cost like 20 to 30 thousand dollars. I can't afford that. But then people like, well, your parents are like, rich, actually.

[A]

Okay, so her. Okay. Who are. Okay, first of all, you can get a wig like that from what wigs? I'm gonna get a wig like that from what wigs? Fifteen hundred dollars. That's what you can get. Which is still expensive. Definitely not 20,000. What are you, Kim Zolciak? Second of all, who are her parents? Because I did look this up.

[B]

She is the daughter of Emmy winner Pamela Adlon and Phoenix Felix Adlon. And her mom is best known for voicing Bobby Hill and King of the Hill. And she also voiced Ashley Spinelli in Recess and starred and wrote and produced Louie and Better Things alongside Louis C K. And then her dad is a producer, I think. Oh, no. German director.

[A]

Okay. Yeah, I guess the voice acting work. I remember that recession. They had like four Ashley's on that show. Right. It's an interesting one. I guess you're still Nepo because you have connections, like agents and managers. But it's like if you're not. If they're not like, known. Are they like, as Nepo? Y. Because I heard me just being so gossipy. I heard from Moses, actually, that she dated Jaden Smith.

[B]

Yes, she did.

[A]

Jade. Okay, So I feel like that's more Nepo Y. Right? Jaden Smith with Will Smith. You know him as opposed to her? Or is it just if you have rich parents? You want to know the voice of Bobby Hill from King of the Hill?

[C]

No, but more who does her parents know?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. So like the connection of the agents and stuff.

[C]

Yeah, Such agents, people that do projects. They have a friend, a daughter. She's a director. He's another friend. Director is making a movie considering her and.

[A]

Oh, how old is she? Is she young?

[B]

She's 25.

[A]

Wow. How old is Jaden Smith?

[C]

Probably the same, cuz I think they were together in high school.

[A]

Yeah, I always think of him as like a child. So crazy.

[B]

They dated from 2017 to 2018. He is 27.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

So they went to prom together.

[A]

Oh, my God. Do they have a prom photo of them, maybe. Actually, I love seeing pictures of people. Who was it? Kobe, I guess Kobe went maybe with his wife. Someone like, Brandy went with someone famous. Someone there's, like, old, like, high school prom pictures. Like, oh, my God. Oh, Topanga and Lance went together to prom. I love seeing that one. Like, celebrities went together at one point.

[B]

No prom photos, just paparazzi photos. Kind of iconic, though.

[A]

She looked the. Had the same hair.

[B]

No, she had straight, like, light brown hair.

[A]

Oh, interesting.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Maybe she took some biotin.

[B]

I mean, she still had good hair. It just, like, wasn't curly.

[A]

Maybe she straightened it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, that could be.

[B]

Yeah. Because I think, especially in high school.

[A]

Like, people just straighten their hair.

[B]

Yeah. I feel like curly hair was always, like, people made fun of, but now it's, like, the cool thing.

[A]

Yeah. No, curls are definitely in right now. Watching all the curl tutorials should embrace my curly hair. It's hard to take care of. Mine's not, like, curly curly. They're not the pretty, like, ringlets. Mine's just, like, all over the place. What's your natural hair texture?

[B]

It's. I have a cowlick. I know that. It kind of just gets where, like, it grows in different directions. Yeah. And it gets kind of, like, wavy, I guess, or like, it gets, like, coarse and wavy.

[A]

How do you get a colic?

[B]

Yeah, you're just born with it.

[A]

Never heard of that before. Because it's, like, in the front, in the back.

[B]

Like, alpha in the front. I guess it's. But like, a cow licked your head.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Yeah. You know, the saliva.

[A]

I didn't hear that.

[B]

I hope that's actually a thing, because I was told that as a kid by, like, a barber at Supercuts. I'm hoping that's a real thing. Me thinking it's a whole thing my whole life.

[A]

Do you still go to Supercuts?

[B]

I used to go to my. Okay. It is a thing. My. I went to my barber from Supercuts. Like, she went and worked, like, at a different place, but I used to go to her until, like, a year ago. Now I go to Darian's place. But, yeah, Cat shout out Kathy from Supercuts, who went out and did her own thing.

[A]

I love that. I love Supercuts. My dad goes there all the time. Oh, the girls Supercuts know you. I was like, okay. Yeah. We're like, oh, this person knows. You always get to see hair go by a different person there, too. I was like, you don't go to the same person. He's like, no, Whoever's ready. I was like, I love that. Sounds good. I wish they had that for women. Just a super cut. I would love a super cut. My hair takes 12 hours to do my hair. Not 12 out, maybe eight hours, no long.

[B]

That's. Yeah. When I went to Kathy, it would take like 15 minutes. And then I would go to Darian, made me go to his barber shop and it takes like a full hour. And so I don't know how you do it. Cuz that one hour I'm like dying. I'm so bored. I'm like, get me out of here.

[A]

I bring my earphones, I bring everything. And I still am like tired. They have a sugar fish nearby and I still am like. So I order food there. I just like hate eating in public. But I'm like, I'm so hungry. Hungry. It's eight hours. Like I need to eat. Like. Yeah. I don't know why.

[C]

Yeah. On the eight hour shift you deserve at least half hour break for lunch.

[A]

Thanks, my little sugar fish. Which is our fave.

[B]

Where you would hate to go then is the Critics Choice awards because I forgot to bring this up on last episode, but the dinner plate that they give is wild.

[A]

Well also did you see like it's in like a hangar like for planes.

[B]

The barker hanger in Santa Monica, which is so weird.

[A]

It's not so weird, but like that's where we did Guinness World Records. Like the unleashed thing where I did my hamlets a little we. And it's just so awful. Like it's just like not comfortable. There's like no green rooms. Like where are all the celebrities? Like there's no, there's nothing. It's just like.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. I. The Kids Choice awards were there last year when I did the Harry Styles interview for Dunkirk. That movie, you know, Dunkirk?

[A]

No.

[B]

Okay. It was there as well. So they do jump. It's there. They do events. I don't know.

[A]

What do I know then?

[B]

Yeah, I have no idea. Like what the point. It's kind of just big and empty, right?

[A]

Yeah. And like, because the top of it just looks bad. It looks like you're in a greenhouse or something like that.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Okay. Well that's what the critics choice was.

[B]

Weird. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I saw the plates and it literally is. Yeah, just a cheese and grape plate.

[A]

Why would they put that for people? Like, you know what I mean? Like why?

[B]

I saw comments that were like, well, everyone's on because they don't want to waste the money. Which is kind of funny. But they also been doing this like pre oic mania too. So it literally is just like a little snack plate.

[A]

I guess if you get hungry, you're lightheaded and you just.

[B]

Yeah. IO Bri. I think two years ago she posted on her Instagram story, shout out the snacks. And it was like her holding up a slice of cheese.

[A]

Who else did that too?

[B]

Oprah. Remember Oprah?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

It's like it was like Oprah and Fantasia, the Color Purple.

[A]

Purple, yeah. And they're like, what?

[B]

Where's the food? Yeah.

[A]

Why would they do that? Does anything serve dinner? Does any of the word shows serve dinners?

[B]

I know the Oscars does.

[A]

No.

[B]

It might be something. Yeah. Or after at the governor's thing. But there's a whole thing about them picking the menu for like the. For that thing. I think the Golden Globes does as well a dinner because they have tables and there's food at the tables. But maybe no one.

[A]

No one wants to eat like a.

[B]

Chicken dinner like the Met Gala. They eat inside as well.

[A]

What do they eat?

[B]

They have a different chef depending on the theme.

[A]

That one I would be like, no one's gonna eat. Only because like, everything's so uncomfortable. Like, how are you? How can you.

[B]

Yeah, I guess it depends. Megan the stallion. I remember she vlogged. She likes. You're not supposed to like record, but she snuck her phone in and like vlogged the food last year and it did look good and she was eating it.

[A]

Okay. So it was like real food.

[B]

Yeah. Because it was like they got this special chef because it was like dandyism and like black excellence. I think. So they had like a black chef do, like. I think it was like from Louisiana, the food. So it was like very specific. Yeah.

[A]

Why can't you record? That's so silly. Because it's like such a big event.

[B]

Yeah. So that way you don't have to, you know, be afraid that you're gonna get filmed. I guess. Cuz it's so many like playlist people. Yeah.

[A]

Do you think they all go in there and eat or you think any just like leave after that carpet?

[B]

Some people, I think like Kim has left one year left or just doing the carpet.

[A]

I would just want to do the carpet and go. Because I'd be uncomfortable anyways. I'd be like, I don't wanna.

[B]

But I guess inside is where like you meet everyone. Like, because it's all like, everyone's just hanging out. Like you go to the bathroom and you know, Kylie and Timothy are smoking in the bathroom. Yeah. There's like all Those photos, like, Bella Hadid and, like, all the celebrities smoking cigarettes in the bathroom. Like, that's where all the cool girls go.

[A]

Sounds not like my cup of tea. I wouldn't want to do that. What am I going to go do to stand next to them? Like, I don't smoke.

[B]

I'll be like, okay, you and Meg. Yeah, you and Meg Salter. Like, ooh. In the girls bathroom.

[A]

Oh, for sure. I would go with her. Yeah. She should go, actually, this year, because it is such. It's such a good theme this year, too. I think the invites already out, and I don't think I got one. But it's a good theme. It's the cosplay year.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I love it. Maya Hawk, she goes in with Herman and Kill Bill. Like, that'd be so good, right? All the Nepo babies dress. Yeah. Was that not what you're supposed to do? I feel like that's. That's where it's at. That's what it should be. Oh, man, that'd be a great one. That'd be a great one to go to.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

What is the mat in May.

[B]

May. It's the first Monday of May.

[A]

Oh, and the Grammys are the first of February. Wow. The first of everything is happening. That's where it is. I think I'm gonna be at the Grammys.

[B]

Oh, wow. I think so.

[A]

Yeah. With an. With an outlet. Not the same outlet either.

[B]

I think a different. Oh, big news.

[A]

Yeah. I'm very excited.

[B]

Oh, wow.

[A]

Figure out what outfit to wear because it's February 1st.

[B]

That's. Yeah. Shockingly soon. Yeah.

[A]

I have nothing to wear.

[B]

Are you gonna cosplay? Oh, you should cosplay the JLo Versace dress.

[A]

Ooh, how do I get my boobs up? They're so saggy. I wish I had them already taken out. That's a great one. Someone predicted on there. I don't know if it was Coco Moko or Spill Sash, but someone's prediction was that Jayla was going to wear the Versace dress again this year.

[B]

She wore it not that long ago. Did she? Yeah, she did like, a Versace fashion show and wore it again like a couple years. Maybe like five years ago now.

[A]

Where the exact. How do I get the exact one?

[B]

There was someone on Drag Race who got.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

Replica made or like, it was. It was maybe one of the. It was like a real Versace dress up. I think it was. I think it was Carrie Colby.

[A]

Well, her body would.

[B]

Yeah. Body tea. So.

[A]

Yeah, she can wear it for sure. But the original, like, it probably was.

[B]

It was like, a big thing. Yeah. She got the real. She got Jennifer Lopez's actual Versace dress for Drag Race.

[A]

I wonder how she got that stylist or something.

[C]

Pulled it.

[A]

Yeah, Pull that stuff all the time. Like, you know, like, who was it? Blake Lively wore, like, Britney's Versace dress. Like, people always get the.

[B]

People love an archival moment these days.

[A]

Oh, is that what it is? So, like, okay, so the person wears it and they put it in. They give it back.

[B]

Yeah. Then it goes in the archives of, like, whatever the designer is. I think Law Roach really brought the archival moment back because for, like, for Zendaya's, his press tours, like, he would go and get, like, an archival piece. So now everyone's doing archival. That's the whole argument with the fashion girls right now. Me and everyone's business.

[A]

But what is it? What's happening there?

[B]

They're like, people are getting upset now that everyone's doing archival. So no one is making a big deal about, like, new designs because everyone's trying to, you know, reference something and someone.

[A]

Oh, people are over it.

[B]

Yeah, like, like you said, Blake Lively with the Britney dress. I think Tate McCray wore a Britney dress.

[A]

I'm fine with the references. Reference, like, people, like, okay, get something extraordinary for new, and then we'll all, like, want to copy that. You know what I mean? Like, if you give something amazing, but I don't know who I would fit. Like, who. Because you'd have the same measurements, I would assume, as the person Altar, but not bigger.

[B]

Probably a little bit. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. All right.

[A]

Jlo, Versace. I'll be at the Grammys. Gotta figure out how to get my boobs up. Somebody knows probably somehow to tape them up there. I don't mind it maybe, but me interviewing people, I think that'd be everything. A little distracting, but I couldn't imagine that's one thing that smaller chest girls get away with is, like, having that low cut. My boobs were out there. It's gonna look a little. That's why I want them out. It's gonna look a little.

[B]

Yeah, we do get guidelines in TV about, like, how much cleavage and then they were like, we had to do like, a whole seminar and it was like, unfortunately, it's just harder for the big. The bigger breasted girls.

[A]

They didn't say that.

[B]

They admitted to it because, like, it would be two people wearing, like, a similar cut dress and be like, this one is okay, but this one is not okay to show on tv.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Were they. Were they large girls or were they just large implants?

[B]

Large breasted? I guess it was like some.

[A]

Were they skinny girls or were they big girls?

[B]

Skinnyish, I guess. Yeah.

[A]

Interesting.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Well, I'm getting mine out hopefully soon. Once I lose this weight, it's just a whole struggle. I'm just about Panda Express because that sounds so good. Happy Chinese New Year. Almost soon. Horse. Where's my horses at? Nay. I knew a little nay. Action. Were you a horse? What do we decide? You were a dog.

[B]

I'm a monkey.

[A]

Monkey.

[B]

Yeah. You have the monkey.

[A]

I think it's coming up soon. What year were you born?

[B]

92.

[A]

2004. 2016. 2028 is monkey.

[B]

Oh. Two more years coming up.

[A]

It's a year. Our dragon and snake years were very lucky. So I'm sad it won't be coming around for another 12 years. But congratulations to all the horses out there. I think this is your year.

[B]

There was some news from one of your favorite podcasts. Do you want to guess which one pile? Not that one, but similar.

[A]

Pretty basic unfiltered views.

[B]

Zach Shepherd's armchair expert.

[A]

I thought after we finished filming and I was like, I hate this person. I mean, I don't like this person. Sorry. I really don't like it. I think number one enemy celebrity mainstream is Dax Shepard. Everything he says is just like, I don't like it.

[B]

Well, if you want the girls to go to the Frozen 3 premiere, you gotta retract that.

[A]

He's in Frozen 3.

[B]

Well, Kristen Bella.

[A]

Oh, but I have a feeling she doesn't even like it. Like, yeah, like, I don't like him either, actually. I'll invite you on. No one likes it even.

[B]

Yeah, that killed me. Cher was on the podcast and.

[A]

Which. What? That is so crazy.

[B]

Yes. Well, we later found out she just is, like, loves Kristen Bell because they did burlesque together. Yeah.

[A]

Which one was she?

[C]

She.

[B]

There was like a group photo of them together. I didn't even clock, like, Kristen Bell.

[A]

I know Julian Huff was in it. And Christina comings, like, I did not know 2010.

[B]

I guess that was pre. That was around Veronica Mars. Ish. I guess so.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

So she has a soft spot for Kristen Bell, but I guess the bit in their friendship is that she thinks that she can do better than Dax. Share things that Kristen Bell can do better than.

[A]

Is it a bitch?

[B]

I think it's pretty serious.

[A]

It looks. It seems pretty real.

[B]

And he asked her, who would be your dream partner for her? And. And he Said because I know you think that she could do better. And her response was, the truth is, I trust her. So you must have something. I don't see that part.

[A]

That part. Like, you said it.

[B]

Share.

[A]

All of us are thinking that, like, this person has nothing going for him. And Kristen Bell is like, a star and wonderful. Like, I don't get it. And the way she defends him, the way they have these weird. He's like, isn't it easy? He wanted to, like, murder her or something.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And she's like, that's cute. Let me share this little antidote.

[B]

That's how they celebrated their anniversary last year.

[A]

Yeah. Like, to the guy who says he always wants dimmer to me, love you.

[B]

Like what he did say, I'll tell you the one thing that you should like about me. I'm not threatened by her shining. Love it. The shinier she gets, the better.

[A]

Yeah. Because you get people like, Share on your podcast how you wouldn't have got her any other way. Like what? Of course that's why you love it. But also, he says that. But, like, it's giving. Not it's giving. No, it's like, I'll look. I'll use her for my armchair podcast that nobody else would come on. Ali is no other cool female. Maybe get, like, Joe Rogan on there. But, like, I don't think, like, you know, anyone else is coming on that podcast. Mattel sitting down on armchair podcast. You know, I'm just like, that's what I thought. Share. I was like, what? And then second question about, like, okay, and then now your explanation makes sense. But I love that she was real about it. She's like, I'm just gonna tell you because I think she says what we're all thinking because it's like, what is. What is the appeal here?

[B]

That is too funny.

[A]

Yes. Who is the most diabolical podcast that should be the category instead of our Golden Globe should definitely go to Amy Poehler.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Our Razzie should go to or, like, the Trishies.

[B]

I guess we can have, like, a diabolical podcast throughout the Trishies.

[A]

Hush. Who is it? Is it David Dobrik with Views? Zack Shepard with Armchair? Nick Vile. Vile Files?

[B]

Like, the competition is stiff this year. Damn, that is a tight rating.

[A]

I really don't know.

[B]

I might have to give it to definitely.

[A]

He has the absolute worst things. It has no redeeming qualities. As opposed to, like, Dax. Okay. You have Kristen Bell and you're kind of famous. Okay. I mean, David has no. His. David's redeeming quality is that he's like, no one talks about it. So we love that via files gets clipped way too much for my liking. And that's all around the worst. So you're right. Most diabolical biophiles.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Can't wait for the age gap relationship show. Sure, sure. We're gonna get lots of great true love romances out of that. Like, I can't wait for it. So crazy.

[B]

Well, good news is also, shout out to Denny director who got this tea that Kristen Stewart wants to direct a new Twilight or Twilight reboot.

[A]

I heard this yesterday too.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, my gosh, that'd be amazing.

[B]

I. No. And usually I'm like, oh, do we need another reboot? But they're rebooting Harry Potter. Like, yeah, we can definitely, definitely do a Twilight reboot. And I think people underestimate. I mean, even Kristen Stewart said it. She said that. I love what Katherine Hardwick did. I love what Chris Weitz did. I love what all the other directors did with the movies. They were so themselves and weird and kind of like squirrely and just so present in that time when they didn't really know what they were yet, like, before they blew up. And I completely agree because I think it could be more like, like almost like Wuthering Heights. Like the new one with Jacob and Margot Robbie. Like, it could be a little bit more grand and artistic.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, artistic.

[B]

Yeah. Because I feel like they just didn't. They did kind of like more of a formula with Twilight. Like, I think the first one was a little bit riskier with, like, the direction it went in. But the other ones became more like Blockbuster.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

But I think you can have a more like, artistic approach.

[A]

Really good. Really good bit of advice there. Because the first one is, like, moody too. It's giving, like, you know, moody. And that's the blue.

[B]

Yes. I love the first movie.

[A]

The second ones do get complicated and convoluted and I'm like, don't know what's happening with people with the red eyes.

[B]

Yeah, it gets more like formula. The blockbuster.

[A]

Would it be the orig, like original people or she's just going to direct.

[B]

I think it would be. She would want to direct a new cast. So it'd probably be like a reboot. Yeah. And they're all like, oh, what's a reboot mean?

[A]

Like, it's the same movie but different people.

[B]

Yeah. Like, Harry Potter is getting a reboot with, like, you know, those. The show.

[A]

So they're just like retelling the same story.

[B]

Yeah. So Harry Potter is going to be seven or eight seasons of a show instead of a movie. But it'll bas. It'll be the same thing.

[A]

Oh, that be cool if they did like a series like that and just added more.

[B]

Yeah. And my brain really got spinning because I was like, they could do that too because like Hunger Games is doing prequels. And I'm actually surprised Stephanie Meyer never did Twilight prequels. Besides like the Second Life short Second life of Bri Tanner. Who cared about that? Not.

[A]

No idea what that is.

[B]

But you have the. All the Cullens and I loved Rosalie's. Do you remember like Rosalie's like backstory.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Yes. Nikki Reed. Yes. When they all like, she. It was like on her wedding day and she got turned and then the guy that she was gonna marry, like basically go let her get like. And that was like her revenge. She turned and then she killed everyone that like.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Left her to die. Yeah. And that's so much lore right there. And that would be such a compelling.

[A]

That's true. Like backstory person could get their own like episode or a season or movie.

[B]

Like Alice being able to tell the future. Like, you could have such good backstory there for like a prequel. I'm surprised I never did that.

[A]

Who am I playing?

[B]

You could be Rosalie.

[A]

Yeah, I think so.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

She. She had. She. That was the one that held Renesmee. The. The robotic Ro.

[B]

Yes. Cuz she really wanted the baby. That was. She was mad that Bella was going to be a vampire because she's like, you don't know what you're miss. Like being able to, you know, know, be a mother and grow old with your baby. Like, that's all I ever wanted. So why would you want to turn.

[A]

Why did she want to turn?

[B]

To be with Edward.

[A]

She should have listened to Rosalie. Is that her name?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Rosalie's advice. Which one are you being.

[B]

I guess it could be Jace because he was the one that always made like the weird. He was the one that was like a soldier, I think. And then he's. Weird faces.

[A]

Alice. Yes.

[B]

He's.

[A]

Yes. Who's Jasper? The dad. Dad, that's Carl Carlisle.

[B]

Carlisle. Yeah.

[A]

Is there a Jasper? Am I just making up?

[B]

I think Jasper is. Is he the jock maybe? Or is Jasper the one that's with.

[A]

I'm so.

[B]

Me too. I. I'm so bad with the guys. I only know. Okay. Jasper is the weird one that's with Alice.

[A]

Okay. Who's Jace?

[B]

Who is the jock one? I know. Kellen Lutz played Him.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Emmett. No, Jason.

[A]

Okay. That'd be you.

[B]

Yeah. No, no, I would be Jasper. Yeah.

[A]

Moses is Carlisle because people said he looked like Carlisle when we dressed him.

[B]

At best when you did Twilight.

[A]

Yeah, he looks like Carlisle. Yeah, that'd be cute. Well, I guess I could play the mom then. If you're Carlisle, I guess it could be.

[B]

Oh, yeah, that makes sense.

[A]

That makes more sense.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Be realistic here. Let me not try to be. Okay, that one's good. Who's Edward and Jacob and Bella.

[B]

That is tough. I mean, we would need a proper, like, Native American to be Jacob because I don't know if Taylor Lautner was. So we want to, you know, like.

[A]

Modern warrior on Tick Tock.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah, that's good.

[A]

But he's a little old maybe. Maybe not.

[B]

Maybe now he's. I haven't seen him in a while.

[A]

Yeah, a little younger one.

[B]

So, yeah, we need a proper Native American. Maybe Haley Bailey for. For Bella.

[A]

That's crazy. Maybe true Whitaker. She'd be a good ballot her as Bella.

[B]

Oh, my God, that's amazing. And Rachel Senate could be Anna Kendrick's character. You know, Anna Kendrick was the friend.

[A]

Oh, my God. So Rachel Senna could be the perfecting done on that.

[B]

You're welcome, Kristen Stewart. Wow. We're eating this up.

[A]

Edward, though, we gotta think outside because, you know, the initial one would be like a Jacob Elordi, but we gotta think like outside the box. Like, not someone who looks like Robert Pattinson, like, but, like, who gives vampire.

[B]

Oh, Jake Web Weber, I think Jake Weber.

[A]

Jake Weber leads the Twilight series. I don't hate it. I can see it.

[B]

Weber. I think it could be Edward Cullen. He kind of gives that. He kind of gives vampire now.

[A]

He does. He does. And he does like to transform into like, a new aesthetic. So that could be his blonde for.

[B]

A little bit too.

[A]

So he's in his pale era. Okay, that's them. That's the cast.

[B]

As our le. I love that.

[A]

Who else? Is there anyone else in the cast that we need? Maybe Dakota fan and come back as like a. As a reprise?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That could be fun. Oh, my gosh. I'm excited for this.

[B]

Oh, my God. And Jamie Campbell Bower can come back too, I guess.

[A]

Was he in it?

[B]

He was in the Volturi.

[A]

He makes. He makes a lot of sense.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I really like him.

[B]

He could be maybe the main Volturi now. He can get yet.

[A]

Do you think we get him on the podcast?

[B]

He seems like a pretty silly guy, so maybe.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, I think you got to go through his girlfriend. I think that's the secret. I imagine maybe the his girlfriend would be.

[A]

I don't know. He was a straight.

[B]

Yeah. Well he's at least with a girl right now, right?

[A]

Oh right. We don't know.

[B]

Yeah, okay.

[A]

He did do musical theater, so I guess that's a exception.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The no straights Here roll. Besides 10 episode, your favorite. Okay, I'll reach out.

[B]

Yeah, I think that's the takeout. Hey girls, you may want to come. You can come too.

[A]

Yeah, we have extra seats. Always. If there is a girlfriend, come sit front row center. I do love it. That is the way to go. Honestly. You can be on it too. Is she famous? Come on too. Or not. It doesn't matter. You just come on. Anyways. We should interview more just like people.

[B]

Yes, I agree.

[A]

You know, just like someone at Starbucks. Maybe not Starbucks.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

How's that Mr. Beast drink coming? You know, ask that. Who could we interview? But yeah, people. People that's just around.

[B]

Yeah. Who have interesting lives.

[A]

People always ask for the Burger King 2 for Sick Guy and I'm like, I don't know if he still works there.

[B]

Oh, oh my God. I forgot about that. That would be iconic.

[A]

He was great. I went through so many drive thru. If you go through my old drive throughs, I went through Burger King so many times. That guy was always there and he's always excited to see me and he.

[B]

Was like if someone else was taking the order, he'd run over. Yeah.

[A]

Always take the mic.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

What?

[A]

Yeah, like he's like, hi, I guess we can see your car.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

Cuz I always wondered. I was like, I mean like just my voice. But then they can see the pink. The pink G wagon. As we said earlier, never to get a pink car because people just can recognize you a mile away.

[B]

But that's so funny.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. I would like him. Maybe I'll go back. It's the Burger King on La Brea. Maybe I'll go back there. Can you go to Hollywood?

[B]

Rarely. Ever? Only if I need to.

[A]

But there's a new diner. I'm begging Moses to get up with me at 6:45 in the morning to go to. It's called Max and Helen's. Have you heard of it? It's like the it diner. Like Kim Kardashian went there. I know. Alexis Oakley got up at like 6 in the morning to go. Like it's always like a three hour wait. It's in Larchmont Village. It's Phil Rosenthal from Somebody feed Phil. It's his restaurant. It's like the it spot right now. I'm trying to get Moses to go with me at 6:45am I don't know you have anything that excited about it though.

[C]

No, I will. I said I will go. I used to go every morning there when I lived in Koreatown to get my coffee.

[A]

Oh, to Larmont Village. This is new. It opens at 8.

[B]

Oh, so you get there at 6:45. Oh, you leave here.

[A]

I traffic. You have to get there. If you don't get there right when it opens, it's like a three hour like line. And his daughter Lily is always there. He. You haven't heard of this? This is like so viral on TikTok. Do you like breakfast food?

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

They have like really good looking. Like the waffles look crispy, the pancakes look crispy. Like everything just looks. It's like, it just looks really good. I don't know. Everyone's like raving about a Kim Kardashian went there. I'm like, okay, this must be the place to go.

[B]

I wonder how you have like a diner get that viral. You know what I mean? Like how I know.

[A]

I. I don't know.

[C]

The owner is famous to begin with.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

A Nepo owner.

[A]

But also like agree with you. But like, I don't know if Phil's like that famous. Not.

[C]

But it's a food critic. Like his whole. When you, when food is your brand.

[A]

But all these young people, like, no, my mom loves Phil. Like, I'm not saying Phil's like, nobody has like seven seasons of Somebody Feeds. Phil. My mom loves Somebody feeds. Felt like every time I'm over there, she comes here.

[C]

When you launch, when you launch a brand, you reach out to some celebrities. Oh, so they attract the younger influencers and celebrities.

[A]

And especially his daughter Lily. She's like always there because her husband's like the chef and she always is like greeting people. So maybe that's how it's going viral.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I want to add to the virality. I wonder if it's good though. Like, I wonder because like Lily has her own hot chocolate. I'm like, is it really good? It's making me want to go. It's all I've been thinking about. I found out about it like three days ago and that's all I've been thinking about. But you can't go at like, yeah, if you go in the middle of the day, like, you're just going to be waiting three hours. No reservations either.

[C]

Famous chefs, they're like DJs. They have a following. Like, so celebrities just go. Follow them where they go.

[A]

Well, the chef is not famous, I don't think. I think it's Lily's husband.

[C]

I'm saying in general, like, that's where like, like, cuz there. There were restaurants like you. There's no sign on the wall, like, nothing outside. And everyone knows to go there. That's where that chef is.

[A]

Like in last holiday when she went to the. Do you ever see that? One of Kifa, my favorite. And Gerard Badu plays the chef. And she was, oh, chef. And they like, everyone's like, so excited to see him. And like, he doesn't care about the rich people. He only cares about her because she actually eats his food. And he's like, oh, my God. Someone who eats my food with no, like, substitutions or something like that. And he gets like, substitutions.

[B]

Wow. Maybe that happened to you there.

[A]

But unfortunately I'm substitution kind of girl. I like.

[B]

Wait, are you really?

[A]

Oh, I'm always like, take everything off.

[B]

Oh, I see.

[A]

Like we go to Four Seasons. There's like a truffle wagyu burger. I'm like, can I have everything off of it? No truffle, no sauce, no truffle. Yeah. I'm like, I don't want that.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Pasta. I don't like a truffle burger.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Especially those big. The big brown pieces. I like. I don't mind a truffle flavor. Like a truffle fry.

[C]

This is real truffle. Oh, usually it's truffle oil.

[A]

Yeah, that I like like that big brown stuff on there.

[B]

I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

I don't want that. So I was like. And something to put on there and just like, knock it off. Like, no, I don't want that on there.

[B]

I'm kind of with you on there then.

[A]

Yeah, I. Only chefs would appreciate that.

[B]

Get that off. Yeah, actually I am kind of like that. Then went in my head immediately. I'm like, okay, no butter. Instead of butter. Use the like. That's what I imagine. But I see what you take everything off. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Plain.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's why I like having kids now. I order five kids meals for them. They're gonna be splitting all of this. And I just truly. Sometimes that's all I eat. They're like, anything for you. I was like, no, I'm so skinny today. And I just eat a little bit of pasta, a little bit of burger. It's the best it's the best to have kids because otherwise they don't let you eat off the kids, which is very weird. But anyways, Max and Helen's Diner and it's also very far from us Launch Mart villages.

[B]

Yeah, it's.

[A]

But if you're already over there, then you can go to, like the Lobster Roll place. There's Lobster Roll place. Place inside of a gas station. You can get. That's really bougie. And you don't eat seafood, huh? I think. Have you ever tried it? You're allergic. You just don't eat it?

[B]

No, Yeah, I just don't eat it.

[A]

You never into a boiling crab.

[B]

I smell it when I go to cvs, but my CVS is next door to it.

[A]

Which one? The one Hills one. Is there a CVS near there? Oh, we're there all the time. They have no ice cream place. Have handles over there?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, that cvs. I've been to that CVS by Bristol Farms more. So you can smell it all the way over there?

[B]

Yeah, well, I have to. I drive past it or actually in the pet food place I go me doxing myself with. The pet food place I go to is literally right now.

[A]

There's only one bunny crab in the area. Is that still there? Because there was like a fire there like a year ago.

[B]

Fresh pet express still kicking. Yep.

[A]

It's a good spot. I always see a lot of influencers there.

[B]

I've never seen an influencer there. I think about that a lot. Like, I never have seen anyone famous at the. The Calabasas Commons or in that little.

[A]

Shopping center, Galvas Commons. We always see people famous because we're always. That's where I saw like, Tara. Yummy. When I was waiting for Sugar Fish. We saw some other people at Sugar Fish that I like, didn't know what they looked like. Influencers.

[B]

I never see anybody.

[A]

You don't go to the right places?

[B]

I think I go to the right places about the wrong times, I guess. I do go. I do do everything at as early as possible, I guess. Influencers are probably sleeping.

[A]

That's true. Usually we do too. But if we're like coming home from something or something that it's usually. Yeah, I like to do everything as early as possible.

[B]

And like, as soon as something opens, I'm there.

[A]

Us and Amy Poehler and Gwyneth Paltrow, we love an early. Yeah, like I get dinner at six. I'm like, I get dinner at five. Going to Matt's.

[B]

Like four, I think.

[A]

Oh, nobody's there. It is the absolute best time to go. Yeah, that's where it's got to be. Even sugar fish, we learned not to go between noon and 2. But if you go right at like 2, everyone's clearing out. That's time to get in there. So place, it's. It's the way to go. Yeah, I love an early dinner. Then you can. You'll feel like going to bed if you're eating like 8pm cuz it's starting to get. It's going to get light again. And I'm like, you know when it's like light till 8:30 that means you start cooking at like 7:30. And I'm like no, we don't eat till like 9 o'. Clock. And I'm like, I love when it gets dark a little early because then we start cooking a little earlier. Yeah, it just feels more cozy. More cozy vibes.

[B]

Oh, speaking of cozy.

[A]

Elm Shit.

[B]

Shout out to the 10 Hour Fireplace video on YouTube because yes, with one upload it has made over a million dollars.

[A]

Seems like it should be more.

[B]

Honestly I was kind of thinking that too because it's been nine years.

[A]

How many views?

[B]

They have over 150 million views and 111,000 subscribers.

[A]

I love that. I do put it on. Do you ever put it on? I put that on sometimes.

[C]

I've definitely put it on.

[A]

Yeah, we put on fireplace all the time. That fireplace one.

[B]

I don't know if I gaff about a fireplace like that.

[A]

Really Just at the ambiance in your bedroom or living room.

[B]

I never really think about fireplaces like that. I have seen like this one meme of like a little kid like in. In school or something in class like during reading period where he put the fireplace video on his iPad and he was reading his book, which I thought was sweet and I like that aesthetic. But I personally don't gaff about the fireplace. But I respect.

[A]

What if like someone comes over to your house, do you have the TV on or you have it off?

[B]

I guess just off.

[A]

You put it on for a little ambiance. That way it doesn't feel like creepy. Why it's so quiet. I look, I love like by myself. I love everything off. No music, no anything.

[B]

But I don't even know the last time I had someone like over.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Your mom.

[B]

But I have a really small apartment so I feel like I'd just be annoyed if anyone was over.

[A]

You never have your mom over?

[B]

No.

[A]

Your brothers?

[B]

I had my brother come over once. I would do what looked at his. My nephew wanted to look at my fish, and that was it.

[A]

Oh, we should bring Malibu over. She loves. Yeah.

[B]

There's also a fish store.

[A]

How many fish do you have?

[B]

I have two. We have two fish. We. At the time, I had more, so it was more to look at. It was kind of giving, you know, aquarium. Knockoff aquarium. Yeah.

[A]

I do love that, Like, Map would love it. Like, his aquarium. Let's go look. Like, my sister's dogs. Do she, like. It's a petting zoo. The dogs, you know, like, she. She loves.

[B]

Yeah, but other than that, like, I don't really have.

[A]

I just have the TV off. You should put fish up on the TV or, like, some ocean or something.

[B]

Well, I have the real deal, so why do I need the.

[A]

To add extra. Your fish. What about when you leave? Doesn't your fish, like, want something to watch, like, company?

[B]

They have the cats to watch them, I guess, and the cats watch the fish.

[A]

That sounds more threatening. Cat, like, watching you just wanting to eat you. Because, like, there is one that. Well, I don't know if they like it anymore. They used to like it. Elvis was like, I think it's on Disney Plus. It's like a Nemo thing where it's like, you're watching the fish tank, and, like, the fish will, like, run into the screen as if it's a thing. It's really cute.

[C]

They, like, loved watching, like, a screensaver.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

But it's Nemo.

[A]

Put that on for your fish. That way I don't feel like they're alone. Because, like, when my sister, like, leaves the house with the dogs, they'll put on, like, cocoa.

[C]

I don't know if he wants to encourage them to try and break away and run away.

[A]

No, but it's more cute. It's like, oh, look, they're like us. You know, the little fish just swimming around my.

[B]

I was gonna say. I feel like you missed out. Like, I feel like you have tried every single YouTube trend, though. So I am kind of confused. You haven't done, like, a fireplace. Like, just you at your fireplace, just sitting there and, like, walking away.

[A]

Oh, oh. Like, just sitting at the. Because I want to do it. Let me. Let me figure this out. Am I just sitting?

[B]

Not, like, all day, but, like, you come in, like, I. This is how I imagine it. Like, you. It's you filming your own fireplace for 10 hours. And, like, periodically. Yeah, you would walk in on the frame and, like, you know, check the logs or something and then walk away. But I. I'm surprised that someone who has literally done every single YouTube trend over the span of 19 years has never done the. A fireplace kind of thing.

[A]

We might just have to do that.

[B]

ASMR is kind of the similar vibe.

[C]

Like say we. We did like have that concept where when she started doing the asmr, I was thinking about like stitching them back to back.

[A]

Like. Yeah.

[C]

Create really long ones or to create like compilations of them, but you just didn't have the time.

[A]

It was more like.

[C]

I started editing them, but it was just like. Not.

[A]

Yeah. To just kind of go on like a loop of the same thing over and over and.

[C]

And kind of compilation. So I would take like four or five different ASMRs, chop them up, mix them up together just to see what it.

[A]

Because we kind of tried to do that. The problem was. Yeah. Because we had Malibu at the time. Like, like I remember like in bed. I wanted to just like sleep in bed and like, it's like sleeping with someone. Like, I try to do that, but it only lasts like 30 minutes. But then Mo's idea was like loop it. But then like no.

[C]

But then tik toks of you in bed. People clip that because you have one when you're in bed.

[A]

Oh yeah. I think I tried it one time. Oh really?

[C]

Yeah. I keep saying clips. Somebody was just like, like my real talent or when I need to go.

[A]

It was literally my idea was to just be like cozy and just like keep, you know, and like flipping a pillow. Like I was just trying to make like a cozy bed. I think you set it up too. The camera was supposed to be like. It was supposed to be like you're in bed with me. It was a little too far. Yeah. It's kind of just like me like laying in bed. But I will attempt it. But do I have to film for 10 hours the fireplace? I guess you could do a ring. It's just gonna be a lot cuz my kids are gonna be running through it. Would it be cozy or would it be more chaotic?

[B]

I. It's kind of real. It's giving realness. It's giving real living room fireplace.

[A]

And it made POV is the fireplace or POV is like you're watching the fireplace and I'm coming in to like change.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So you're just watching the fireplace.

[B]

It's kind of just reheating these fireplace nachos.

[A]

Okay. We have a cute fire pit outside. What? Gosh. What's it say?

[C]

Do you have any special, special talents, unusual skills? Me.

[A]

Find stuff. Oh my gosh. That Is the cool thing about putting out content for so long is people find stuff and make it new again.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Especially there's some art. I mean, they just generate so much.

[A]

I like that color. Was that pink or is that white or cream?

[C]

I think it's that sunset light I had.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

To make it cozy. We really had production on that before the podcast. We had. We had that asmr. We tried the ASMR podcast, which was your idea, and that didn't work out either. But that's okay. Not all ideas work out.

[C]

We always get comments on the ASMR podcast.

[A]

They liked it.

[C]

People are, like, bringing us back.

[A]

We should do one episode of that for Patreon. Just asmr I would love.

[B]

I still think I'm really bad at it, but I like trying to. I think it's fine. Yeah.

[C]

Because so many people watch podcasts and stuff like that to fall asleep. So an ASMR podcast just makes sense.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

To have.

[A]

Okay. For one of our Patreons, we can do a ASMR podcast.

[B]

I saw this meme of you. The other you reminded me when you.

[A]

You make content.

[B]

This tweet is. Guy on Grindr asked me to model for his art project, but it was just a ploy to take Polaroids of my feet. It's this photo of you.

[A]

What does that have to do with me? First of all, love. Love that one of me. Oh, my gosh. Can you send to me? I would have post the tweet on my Instagram. That's. I had nothing post. This year. I'll post that. People love that. Really love that one. Why is it? Tell me. Explain it to me as someone who gets memes.

[B]

This cosplay.

[A]

Yeah. Well, just, like, why people like this one? Because, like, they. They don't get it. It's Hurley from Lost. Why are they using it as a feet and Grinder? Like, I don't get it.

[B]

I think it's just like the. For this particular tweet, I think it's the act of, like, just being. No, it's like, such a mood. It's like Guy on Grindr asked me to, like, to model for the art project. Okay. So you go in with high expectations. High expectations. And then you go. And you realize it was just a ploy. That's. Take a. Pull the wedge of your feet. So then your expectations are like. And then you're sitting there like, you know, you got all dressed up, and you got.

[A]

That's me dressed up for the feet.

[B]

Well, you're cosplaying. So this is you, like, dressed up and you got ready and you went over.

[A]

Oh, I see.

[B]

And then you just got danced. Yeah.

[A]

Like, well, what about all this effort?

[B]

I just.

[A]

Okay. I hope that's how it's interpreted. I love that people love it. No one cared about it when we did it in 2022. Those were our maternity photos, and nobody cared.

[B]

It tickles me.

[A]

You know what? Good. Maybe my last podcast can make a comeback too. I would really love that. I think that would be.

[B]

Oh, and someone texted me one the other day too.

[A]

Oh, my gosh. Is it Jimmy?

[B]

It was my friend Nick. My friend Nick who, like, isn't even really online like that, but he.

[A]

Does he know you know me, or was it just, like, a random. Okay, like, who is this person?

[B]

Every day in every way, I'm getting better and better, and it's just this random photo of you, which I kind of love.

[A]

Did he make it or he just saw it?

[B]

I think he just saw her.

[A]

I mean, I do love. I love. I do look good there. That's a great one.

[B]

I really need to get on my merch collection because I'm like, this would be an amazing T shirt.

[A]

Do it. You're. Honestly, I. I love it. Like I said, when you just don't have to make content anymore, and it just becomes fresh content for people. Love it.

[B]

Make that merch when I become a millionaire off of you.

[A]

Do it. I would love. I want nothing but your success. You know what I mean? I would. And I would support it. I'd wear it. It. I wore a random tik tok shop merch of myself. I was like, why are you wearing like that? I was like, I don't know. Like, I support you doing it. You should do it. Try it.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

If you made a million dollars, that'd be crazy. Lord knows I lose money every time I do merge. I make $0. I'm just, like, putting it all out there. I love that shirt, though. That'd be cute. Next time I see you T shirt.

[B]

I need to send you that tweet before. Oh, my God.

[A]

That was. Oh, wow. Wow. What else? Anything fun?

[B]

It kind of, I guess the big, like, escondalo that I had, which isn't even. I don't know. I haven't really seen it that much, but I saw some tick tocks about it. It was like a drama over true crime YouTubers, which I think is always interesting.

[A]

This is good. This is, like, something I know nothing about, and I have stick in the game, so I'M like, let's hear it.

[B]

Yeah. And I have like, I used to watch more true crime YouTubers a few years ago, but then now if I like watch videos about crimes or anything like that, I watch like journalists now, which I. Because I think they. It still can just be as dicey, I guess as like a YouTuber. But I feel like at least the, the journalist channels, like they still go follow the same processes as like a traditional news versus like youtubers. I feel like some depending on the youtuber obviously if you. But like they don't have as many people that are like accountable for the content if they get facts wrong or anything like that versus like, yeah, if you're an actual like outlet or journalist, you. There's so many processes and you're well aware of like what can happen if you get something wrong, if you say the wrong name, if you show someone on screen and say they're guilty of something that they're not. Like, there's just more at stake. So that's my personal thing.

[A]

But yeah, and true crime has content too. It sounds like, oh, this is a little like if this feels a little sponsored by. And then it goes right. It's like, and then he mutilated and yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

And obviously not all true. True crime channels are the same, but in particular this YouTuber Eleanor Neal, she was getting dragged because she was going. She announced her True Crime tour. So she's. I used to watch her a while ago. She's one. She's really, really popular. She has almost 3 million subscribers. Her videos always get like near either a million or plus views. And she is from the UK and she, when she started, people always appreciated her approach to true crime because her thing was she would always mention that she's trying to like be respectful about, you know, the victims in the cases and stuff. So when she announced the tour, Outlaw Live is what it's called.

[A]

What is it? Outlaw.

[B]

Outlaw.

[A]

What does that mean?

[B]

That's her podcast now. Before it was just Eleanor Neil, like her channel, but then she branded it it out Lore.

[A]

What is the pun? What's Outlaw like? Outlaw.

[B]

I think it's a pun on that. But lore. What's her name? I think Lore, like, you know, the lore of the crime. So instead of Outlaw out lore also.

[A]

It needs to have a new name. It's hard.

[B]

When she announced her tour on Instagram and she captioned it. I'm so excited to see and talk true crime in person. It's been, it's been such a long time coming and don't worry. These locations are a little too far for you. On the link, you can sign up to hear when I'll be in your city. And we're going to analyze criminal cases, look through evidence, debate suspects.

[A]

Oh, gosh.

[B]

It's what we do best around here. It's going to be fun moments. It's going to be full of fun moments and being unforgettable nights.

[A]

So fun moments is a while.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Let's talk.

[B]

And it kind of reminds me of the Alicia Marie, like, Girls Night out tour. You know what I mean? Or girls not into it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Sounds like a horrible idea.

[B]

Yeah. What it is versus the marketing was like a big, like, it's too. It's too much.

[A]

And yay.

[B]

Pretty much everyone kind of clocked how like, distasteful it was because there was a whole bunch of tick tocks, like calling it out and saying, your content has changed so much. It's really distasteful. You no longer care about the victims and you haven't for a while. This is very out of touch. And she, she faced a lot of backlash. She ended up revising it. So now the proceeds from the ticket sales will go to a charity. And she said she was going to figure out, like, which charities she was doing. That's what she said.

[A]

Or proceeds. So proceeds could be anything from like.

[B]

1% to T. Like how much and all that. We don't.

[A]

She says all proceeds is different, but some. A lot of people say proceeds will be like some proceeds. $1 a ticket will go to.

[B]

Let me see if she specified how because that verbiage is like, pretty important.

[A]

Because I would, I would venture most people tour to make money. So I'm assuming she's not gonna just do this for fun and then donate to everyone.

[B]

She posts it in a story. Now it's gone about, like, how much about the proceeds. So I guess we'll see.

[A]

Also, just being like, come speculate about this person's murder is crazy.

[B]

I know.

[A]

Isn't that like the Rule 101 is like, to not just speculate about things?

[B]

And yeah, I feel like people started to get a little lost in the sauce because there was another girl. I watch. I forgot her name. I don't want to say her name anyway to like, I don't want to bring hate or anything to her. But like, for me, the moment where I was like, oh, like this kind of makes me uncomfy is her merch was true. Crime is my therapy. And like, under her, you know, you have like the Merch wheel, like, under your YouTube video, whatever. So, like, advertising that right under, like the grizzly murder video.

[A]

I'm like that.

[B]

It just seemed like.

[A]

So I think merch is not something we should do anyway.

[B]

My therapy is a crazy thing.

[A]

Yeah. Is my happy place.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, what?

[B]

Like, so traumatic.

[A]

You watch it. I really don't get the true crime. But, like, okay, I get. There's a whole fandom. Okay. There's like, one thing to watch it. Curiosity, I suppose, or, like, knowledge or something. Okay. But another thing to be like, this is my therapy. Like, just going through other people's like. And just multiple. Because I'm sure it has to be taxing on you. Like, just going through like. Like all of those. Like, because every. Everyone I see that pops up on Tick Tock with like, the little microphone stuff like that. They're like, this is so gruesome. Like, trigger warning. I'm like, how are you researching all this? You know? Like, it's a lot. So if it's your therapy, I think you might need help. You know, like, if this is what's making you calm down and not be crazy. Like, this is like, to me, it's like, I think you have to be a sane and sound mind person to watch true crime, which is not me, which is why I don't watch it. But I think you have to be of stable mind to watch it. Otherwise you're like, go a little nuts.

[B]

Yeah. Because there is also, like, studies have shown there's a correlation between people who consume the content versus, like, paranoia level. So, like, some people who, like, watch it a lot. Not everyone, just some people like, their paranoia spikes, like, a lot like that. Yeah, that would be me.

[A]

I see one story and I'm like, scared for the rest of my life. I do not, like, want to watch anything. I think the last one I heard was like, the real life Slender Man. And I was like, no, no, I don't want to know. I don't even know if that was a real thing. I decided I'm so. Because I will. I would be that person. Like, even when I scroll and I see one, I like, go to the comments. I was like, not me. Watching this at 3:00am I'm like, oh, nubs, girl. Like, it's just all of it sounds terrifying.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

And like, but a tour is great. Has anyone ever done this? Because, like, I know, like, like a true crime.

[B]

Yeah. The. The girl who did the. Who had that shirt also did, like, a true crime tour. And there's also, like, conventions but the conventions are a little bit different. There's like, true or Crime con is what it's called. But from my understanding, it's a little bit different because it's like, people or, like, either survivors of, like, gruesome crimes or, like, family members or whatever, like, victims or people related to them will speak. And like, usually they have something they're promoting, like if they wrote, like, a book or something about it. So, yeah, that is at least like, a little bit more power, from my understanding, is in the actual victims, you know, so it's a little bit different.

[A]

But it does feel like you should have some credentials to report on true crime, whether it's being a relation to the family or, like you said, some journalism, some degree in this.

[B]

Yeah, because it's just like, there's so much that goes into it and there's. With like, journalism, law. Like, you can't. Like, if you're talking about someone, this is like, I'll just do random, like, hypothetical scenario. But if I'm talking about, like, someone committing murder, whatever, and I show, like, generic photos of people to show, like, oh, it's people in the crowd. But if one person stands out, that person and that person sees it, that person can soon be like, you are putting my face while you're talking about a gruesome murder. So now people are going to associate my face as the murderer.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So there's so much that goes into it. Like, I will say, like a. Like, even like a Stephanie sue level. Like, she has gotten to a place where she has, like, a lot of people. Like, she has producers and people on her team that, like, she works with. And obviously she's credentialed to cover, like, big cases and stuff. So she's kind of like. And she's like, one of the top podcasters in the world. So she's kind of on the level where she has, like, a big team that, like, can help but.

[A]

And I like that she evolved into, like, just like, podcasting about it can. Because. Not that it's a bad way to tell she got famous, but there's, you know, I've seen some where people like, she was like a mukbanger that did it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So she'd be like, eating Korean fried cheese and talking about it. It's like, I guess it's fine. I guess it's like, way of got content. I know someone else, like, does makeup and talk about it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, in, like, theory, I guess it's like, nothing wrong with it. There is just something a little like, Crazy, right?

[B]

But even she like clocked that. Like she's like, oh she did? Yeah, because people were giving her that criticism and she's like, she doesn't do it anymore. She's like, you guys are right. Like this can is like an insensitive. So now like she took the mukbanging aspect out of like the, the true crime coverage. So yeah, it's just like a hard genre in general. I feel like I get why it's covered and that's also like some people will cover cases and they could like some families want more coverage, which is good, but some families can get re traumatized by bring this being brought up. I think there was with Eleanor in particular, there was like a case where she got some details wrong and like the victim's like sister was trying to contact her to say like you are getting this right. I don't even know where you got this from. And it was just like not even trying to like sue or anything. It's like, I want to know what your source was because like I want to go to wherever, whoever's giving you this information because it's just like wildly inaccurate about like my sister and her murder. So it's such a tough, tough thing to cover and you kind of do need to have like a good team. It's hard to cover it independently because lawsuit like with all the evidence and stuff, there's just so much in there and there's so many details and stuff. I think another problem people have too is like. And I noticed this too when I would like watch these videos is that. And this is about no one in particular but in general it'd be like she. When they would talk about like the victim, whatever, she was an amazing person. She would have loved, loved to have spent time with it. Like they were just applying all this like anecdotal like information that like only the person themselves wouldn't know, you know?

[A]

Yeah, yeah. So they're just like adding to this narrative that you weren't in.

[B]

Yeah. And kind of like they would just be talking as if they know the person and like putting them in these scenarios. I don't know, they're just talking about them like a fictional character versus like.

[A]

Yeah, well I think that's like most. A lot of, a lot of them that I've seen just on Tick tock, just like random ones. The ones that hold like little micro microphones and stuff like that. Like there's so many of those people, they'll put them like on a lip gloss or whatever and yeah. The way they do tell about it is like, as if it's not real.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, and I'm just like, this is. This is like really, I don't know. Definitely tour saying, come, have fun.

[B]

Yeah. Unforgettable night. It's like, damn. Because people were saying too, like, she could do. And like anyone doing this stuff in general, if it was like hypothetical, like almost like a murder mystery dinner vibe. Like, you know, there's like. Or like the games. You know those murder mystery games where it's like fictional Mary, that, you know.

[A]

You and Jen and Joey Graceffa, we go on tour.

[B]

Like, I see everything.

[A]

Joey, get that going. All the among us people from 2017. That was good. I liked it. I enjoyed it. Go to Patreon and see it. I enjoy that one.

[B]

Oh, my God, that's funny. But yeah, she did like a hypothetical or like a fictional thing where, like, you know, she can have the audience help, you know, go through the evidence and solve the crime. That's like one thing instead of like real.

[A]

That makes sense. Either do that or just go like the opposite and just do your podcast live. Just go through the facts of a story or something.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What I've gathered from people who like podcast live is they just want to see people do a podcast and. Which I can't. I can't really fathom, but I suppose that's what people like sometimes.

[B]

Yeah. I think it's almost like, you know, for example, this is weird connection, but like Stranger Things, a finale. Like, they put that in theaters and I think you could obviously watch it at home, but it was a sense of like, community.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Watching it. So I think it's kind of similar for podcasts, like, the sense of community. Watching it live.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. There's a. There's a mall and I think it's in Koreatown and they show K Pop Demon Hunters, like for an audience to go watch, which I think is so cool. And actually, you know what? We did sit into an audience of Somebody feeds Phil with Phil Rosenthal's podcast. We sat and it was a three hour long.

[B]

The guy with the restaurant.

[A]

Yeah, because he did it at Donny Osmond show.

[B]

Oh, I remember that.

[A]

Him and the Rolling Stone guy that, like hosted with them. Phil didn't talk much. Much to our disappointment. Donnie talked a lot and then the other guy talked a lot. But yeah, I guess, you know, I wasn't that into it, but I guess people are like, would you sit through a podcast? You like podcasts? Would you sit and watch someone? I guess people Do. I guess I shouldn't like to say this by a hot take, but I.

[C]

Think the convenience of a podcast is that I can listen to it on my phone while I cook and do things like that.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I'm not a fan of anyone in particular that I actually want to go and sit in an audience and watch them do the same thing with.

[A]

Somebody feeds Phil. Theirs was like, they were eating cake. I don't know if they eat on their. I think that's what they do. They eat on their podcast or something. And they were eating cake and, like, none of the audience got it. So we were just watching them eat cake. And, you know, my addiction to food. I just wanted that cake so bad. I was like, well, can we have some? We were just, like, sitting there. I guess it could be cool if you have, like, some sort of interaction. But yeah, there is a really popular true crime podcast that, like, was on tour and they were playing the same venues. I was like. They were doing, like, Chicago theater, and I was like. It was like, two people. I can't remember what I was. I guess, like, only murders in the building. They're kind of like a podcast. Yeah, like that. Well, is she continuing the tour?

[B]

Yeah, the gag isn't sold out, so.

[A]

Yeah, honestly, kudos to her mama. Like, is she playing at the Improv? Like, where is she playing? Like, where's the true crime get hosted? Hollywood Cemetery. Like, where are we having this?

[B]

Let me see her venues. It's all in the uk.

[A]

Oh, is she British?

[B]

Yeah. Leicester Square Theater, the Academy two in Manchester, and the Wardrobe in Leeds. I wonder how many people.

[A]

People. I mean, theaters sound pretty big.

[B]

Okay. It's a little bit smaller. 400 seats.

[A]

It's pretty good.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Not easy to do. Congrats. That is. That's a pretty big deal. It is crazy. Like, yeah, just the amount of people at tour and, like, the amount of.

[B]

People that come out and, like, genres of tours.

[A]

Yeah, that's super niche. I wonder what's the nichest one out there. Like, what's a tour? That's like. So, like, in Vegas, they have, like, penis puppetry of the penis. Oh, have you ever seen that?

[B]

When I went to Tana's wedding, ironically, I stayed at the Trump Hotel, but it was right across from the puppetry of the penis, also ironically.

[A]

No, I only heard about it through Shane. I think he went one time and was talking about how they transform into, like, animals.

[B]

I. That's what there's. The billboard was literally, like, right across from the hotel, and it looked like, you just. It was like origami with a penis. And that didn't really.

[A]

And I've been there for, like, 15 years.

[B]

It must sell tickets, I guess, right?

[A]

So wild. Like, that's what I'm saying. Like, these shows out there, it's just like, so crazy. Like, you can literally do anything. Nutritionist life, you know, like, and it is wild that people come. But you know what? Like you said, at the end of the day, as long as everyone's having fun, there's, like, camaraderie there. Why not?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Hell, yeah. Well, kudos to Outlaw. Is that her name?

[B]

Yeah. Eleanor Neal from Outlaw. Yes. Just maybe tread carefully because, you know, true crime is tough, especially in the uk.

[A]

I feel like they don't mess around about that stuff because UK is like, you know.

[B]

Yeah. Defamation laws are also stricter in the uk. Oh, interesting.

[A]

Really?

[B]

It's easier to sue for defamation in the UK instead of the US Good to know.

[A]

Be careful. Just kidding. We love you. You sound like you're doing good. You sound like you're killing it. Right? It does. I don't know. Well, you guys, thank you for being here. We're True Crime podcast. We try. We tried that one time.

[B]

We did cover true crime once or twice. I think it's stressful, though.

[A]

Yeah. I can maybe do, like, fake crime. Okay, that sounds crazy.

[C]

What?

[A]

Oh, we're going to, like, do, like, a fake.

[C]

Yeah, it's more of, like, you make makeup stuff.

[A]

Okay. Period. Thank you guys for watching. We love you. Be well. I can't wait for Monday, but have a great weekend.

[B]

What's Monday?

[C]

I don't know.

[A]

It sounds like it's really fun.

[C]

The next episode.

[A]

Yeah, well, we're filming the next one. I think it's gonna be a great weekend. What's the award show this weekend?

[B]

Golden Globes.

[A]

Love that one.

[C]

So much to talk about.

[A]

We're gonna be tuned in. We're gonna be sat. Are you working?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Check out Oscar's TikTok. Guess which one it is. I love when people are like, this is Oscar's TikTok.

[B]

That is a fun game.

[A]

Yeah. Oscar. Even the one that I it on a different network. Like, Oscar did this. We love knowing Oscar's home editing this. It's, like, wonderful. We love you guys. Thanks for being here. Check us [e-mail] justrush for bonus episodes and bonus videos every single week. Love you so much. And we'll see you in the next one. Bye.