Trisha (1:41)

Yes. Luxury over here for a day.

Guest Host (1:46)

I actually don't take Friday off. I actually have a big day on Friday. I have a big long work day. We have at 3am so try being an influencer for a day. No, I love being an influencer. I do. There is nothing better. I went to the pink wall yesterday and I felt very.

Trisha (2:01)

Yeah, I was scrolling. I was like, oh my God, is that tar Yummy. I was like, oh, no, it's Trisha.

Guest Host (2:06)

Very close to the same. Obviously we should do our Patreon, like at LA Influencer Day.

Trisha (2:11)

Wow, I would love that actually.

Guest Host (2:13)

Like, what are the spots you think of? Because, like, I was getting my hair done and I was like. I was. I was right by the pink wall. I was right by Community Goods. I was by everything. Like, what do you think of? What do you think of both of those things?

Trisha (2:21)

Definitely think of like Melrose Trading Posts. I feel like back in the day the girls were always at the trading post buying an overprice, like, necklace or something, you know.

Guest Host (2:29)

Oh, like a chunky statement piece. Yeah, that, that's right there too. They're all on Melbourne.

Trisha (2:33)

Yeah. So I feel like all of that.

Guest Host (2:35)

Got to hide your phone though. I saw a tick tock of someone getting robbed at the Vivian Westwood, broad daylight. Yeah, you saw that one?

Moses (2:42)

Yeah. Two guys with guns.

Trisha (2:43)

What?

Guest Host (2:44)

Yes.

Trisha (2:44)

If you can't go to the Vivienne Westwood, where can you go?

Guest Host (2:47)

I know, period. He even said he had the. He had like fake Louis Vuitton on and fake Dory and that's what they took. And like weirdly enough, they like kept his car and kept his key. Or like they left his car, left his keys, left his phone. They just took all the stuff he was wearing, I guess, and told him to fly.

Moses (3:00)

Well, they didn't see the phone and he kind of threw the keys. Yeah. He was lucky that those two things were.

Guest Host (3:05)

Yeah. I won't tell you where I put my phone, but I definitely, I definitely put it somewhere you can't get it.

Trisha (3:10)

That's one secret.

Moses (3:11)

She calls me every day.

Guest Host (3:12)

You'll never know. No, cuz it's, it is crazy. And my hair salon is right by there. It's literally right by there. And I was just like. And he's like, yeah, the people from the hair salon looked across the way and saw it happening. And I was like, oh my God, that's so crazy.

Trisha (3:22)

Oh my God.

Guest Host (3:23)

Yeah. But I guess they came over to his defense afterwards. But I thought that you saw that too. I thought that was very, I guess wasn't that niche. I don't know. He was like, he looked cool. He had a cool blonde hair and thing. But he did say there was a lesson to be had from that story because he did say that he was like on his phone, like going through his car, like distracted. So he had like the car open for a while. He was on the phone with his dad. He's like looking for stuff. So he's like, just don't be distracted.

Moses (3:45)

It sounds a normal. That's what I'm saying. It's kind of crazy that you can't be just normal distracted. No, of course on Melrose.

Guest Host (3:52)

Well, you can't wear anything. You can't wear jewelry, I mean anymore. You can't do anything. Which yeah, it's, it's sad. But you have to be. I see that with moms too. Like in Target, like they're always like looking when they put their kittens. Like it's sad that you have to be that way, but you kind of have to be that way. Which also. We have no sponsor today. But I just went to In N Out and.

Moses (4:10)

What?

Guest Host (4:10)

Well, this is. Okay, well, I ordered the. I ordered a Flying Dutchman. Have you seen these?

Trisha (4:15)

Yes.

Guest Host (4:15)

Have you had one?

Trisha (4:16)

No, that's. Is that the one with the onion?

Guest Host (4:18)

Well, I thought so. Flying Dutchman. And they just gave me cheese and burger without the butt. It was basically a cheeseburger. No bun is what they gave me.

Trisha (4:26)

With lettuce or.

Guest Host (4:27)

No, no.

Moses (4:30)

How do you eat it?

Guest Host (4:31)

I just picked up the cheese of the meat. What? And it came on, like, the Flying Dutchman paper. I guess maybe I'm supposed to ask for the grilled onions because I really wanted the grilled onions. Because I love.

Moses (4:40)

That's what it meant.

Trisha (4:41)

Yeah, me too.

Guest Host (4:42)

Well, that's why when they went. And I was like, hey, can I get the Flying Dutchman? They're like, yeah, of course. Like, they seem to know what it was. I guess I should have ordered it maybe more specific, because I even got, like, the sauce over it. But it was like. It was good. I just wish I would have had the grilled onion. So I didn't really get. I didn't get what I wanted. But that's okay. I still. I still got a burger with a bun and cheese fries. So it was fine. But. Yeah, it was a whole thing. But what was interesting is they have I instead of an average. Today, we have a good cause. This was from our In N Out placemat. It's called the Slave to Nothing Foundation. And it's. It's helping, stopping and preventing and protecting survivors of human trafficking online, which I thought was interesting. Yeah, my whole for you page is like, people at Target, which I am, like, so vigilant. I mean, we rarely go out, me and Malibu, by ourselves, but it doesn't matter. It takes like, half a second. You know, when people come up to us in the parking lot, I'm always like, no, I'm like, very. Like, I just always think someone's trying to distract me. But anyways, it can happen online, which I think is interesting. This is talking about people who go play video games. But anyways, there's a QR code. We donated $5,000 on behalf of Just Trish Podcast. You guys want to donate? It's a. You know, you're always looking for things to do.

Trisha (5:46)

This one.

Guest Host (5:46)

This one seems like it goes pretty directly, so talk to your kids. Click with caution. This. The Slave to Nothing foundation partners with those on the front lines, working to expose these threats, protect survivors, and attend human trafficking, which is a Pretty serious thing. I mean it's pretty real, I guess, is what it is. Cause you always hear about it and you're like, no, it's not like. But it's pretty prevalent and it kind of just happens every day to everyday people. So anyways, if you want to donate to that, that's our, that's our ad read today. That's not an ad read. We didn't get sponsored but would love. We'll talk about this more. I love it. Any sort of things I like to donate to. So if you guys have any causes, let us know. We love. It's like spring. I feel like spring. Springtime is the time that you just like clean out your closet and donate to organizations, you know.

Trisha (6:22)

Sure, yeah.

Guest Host (6:23)

To anyone we have, we're here for it. So thank you in n out for that. They're like, do you wanna round up for ending child trafficking? I was like, yeah, I do. That's a cool cause. And they had the pins and they had the placemats and I thought that was really cool. Shout out. In N out. I know they get some heat sometimes because.

Trisha (6:38)

Do they?

Guest Host (6:38)

Well, you know what? People don't like that they have a Bible verse. But I don't think that. Oh, it's still there. John 3:16 is there.

Trisha (6:44)

Well, you know, they were one of the first, like are major fast food places to really pay their employees pretty well. So I think that it balances out. Right.

Guest Host (6:52)

Yeah, they're putting it more nonchalant, not to offend anyone. So I think John 3:16 is an okay one too. I think it's just like for God, so love the world. Is that the one that you present his only son? I don't think it's like, don't be gay or anything. You know what I mean? I think it's.

Trisha (7:04)

What is it?

Guest Host (7:05)

Which 1 is it John 3:16 or.

Trisha (7:08)

Is it like you eat a burger? What if it's like very specific, don't.

Guest Host (7:11)

Eat animals or eat the animals.

Trisha (7:13)

Oh, you were so right. Okay. Bible queen. For God so loved the world that he gave his only son that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. I mean, that's fine, right? It's pretty general.

Guest Host (7:24)

That's the general one. And I mean, I guess oddly specific, like you have to believe in the son of God.

Trisha (7:30)

That's true. That's true.

Guest Host (7:31)

But I guess, you know, I don't get offended by atheists. I don't know, you know. You know, I believe in everything. I started a little Trishcraft book Like a little witchcraft. But Trishcraft, love that little book of spells. And I feel like I'm gonna share it. Cause I put all my favorite spells in there. And I was like, I'm gonna put that in there. And then I was like, is that blasphemous? But I'm like, honestly, all these deities, they're kind of the same, you know what I mean, Minus Scientology. We don't know Ron L. Hubbard, what he's doing. But church craft, we just kind of take from nature and God and Prophet Muhammad and all of them, you know.

Trisha (8:00)

Wow. Okay. It worked.

Guest Host (8:01)

So it's a religion for everyone. Church or Trish, as I said. Anyways, how are you? We got off to a late start. Well, me too. I was off getting my. Because I went to go leave at like 10:05. Cause you weren't here yet. And I was like, I'm gonna just go. He's like, it's not open yet. I'm like, 10:30. But 10:25 is when I can order. And I'll get my order at 10:30. I'll be back on time. So I feel like we're pretty much timing, right? And then we had the construction. But how are you? You're good?

Trisha (8:22)

Good. Yeah. It's a busy week, but I'm getting through it.

Guest Host (8:25)

Is it because of the award show or.

Trisha (8:27)

Yeah, it's just award season. There's a lot of events this month, I guess until, like, March. I'm gonna kind of be going through it, but I'm still holding on to not wanting to die. I'm like, oh.

Guest Host (8:38)

What?

Trisha (8:39)

Very like, I love you, Jesus. Yeah, it's kind of. I'm kind of just trying to harness that energy. Anytime I get stressed, I'm like, it's gonna be okay. It's gonna be.

Guest Host (8:46)

Yeah.

Trisha (8:47)

Okay. Is it really that serious? No, no, no.

Guest Host (8:49)

I think you're gonna get a house this year. Manifesting. Do we talk about the boards?

Trisha (8:53)

We talked about manifestation.

Guest Host (8:54)

Yeah.

Trisha (8:55)

I have been saving money since I was. I realized, like, your whole life. Yeah. Because my first job was what, 20. 2015. So it's been now officially 10 years working. I'm like, girl, it's time to really lock in.

Guest Host (9:08)

Yeah. No, you're gonna do it. You're gonna.

Trisha (9:10)

Although, you know what makes me nervous.

Guest Host (9:12)

Is the market crashing.

Trisha (9:14)

Well.

Moses (9:15)

Well, yeah, but maybe it's a good time to buy anyway.

Guest Host (9:19)

I don't know. I just always hear that.

Trisha (9:21)

I know. I was saying. I was like, it's time to buy. I'm like, well, okay. What is kind of a hot topic, I guess. But I saw TikTok of Nikki Demar. I don't know how recent the clip is because, you know, people be clipping things.

Guest Host (9:34)

Yeah.

Trisha (9:35)

It was her talking about. She was like, I haven't been able to go on a shopping spree in so long because I now am paying my mortgage.

Guest Host (9:43)

So I'm paying my mortgage, but I don't have really wiggle room anywhere else in my life. You know, I get. There's literally no money going towards me anymore. I can't tell you the last time I had a shopping spree that wasn't a sponsored video. A lot of the things I wear are sent for free in exchange for a post or it's a sponsorship. I miss shopping sprees. Putting a lot of money also into my, like, independent artist career. Like, I'm a music artist and, like, music is so expensive. Do you have to say, I am really lucky to have. I do have a company that's backing all my music. I have a distribution deal where I have X amount of money behind six masters and a prod living without even having to worry about budgeting, which is like the biggest blessing now that I have to budget. But, like, it turned 19 and I had a business manager. I never have paid a bill in my life. I've never had to do that.

Trisha (10:39)

Now I have to, like, really, any money I get, like, it goes to be paying my mortgage. And I haven't had a shopping spree in forever. I really miss shopping sprees.

Guest Host (10:46)

Yes.

Trisha (10:47)

And the only time I can do a shopping spree is if it's sponsored for a video. People were really dogging on her, which I do. I get. And also, like, I normally I'd be that person to be like, girl, let's be realistic. But I do have room in my heart where I'm like, she grew up on YouTube. So much money because she was, you know, that group that got so many brand deals because they were like the lifestyle girl.

Guest Host (11:10)

Yeah.

Trisha (11:10)

It was a smaller pool to choose from, like pre TikTok. So you're just like, accustomed to living one sort of way. And then all of a sudden it's like, oh, can't live like that anymore. It is, it's, you know, it's an adjustment for you.

Guest Host (11:24)

You have a little empathy for it.

Trisha (11:25)

Yeah. I think it was like, girl, this isn't really the. I think it's something that you text, like your other, like, creator friends. I don't think it's something you put, yes, that's the thing. Yeah. Because.

Guest Host (11:34)

Yes, this. This is an old clip. Because she no longer has the house. She sold the house because she. And I believe in that same clip she calls herself. She's. She's house poor, I think is what she says. Meaning. Yeah, she's like, you know, I'm. Which is like, kind of like what we were when I was we. I say because we got married, but I was. Well, happily will always say we. What did you say? We. The other day you said we. Oh, God, there was something else.

Moses (11:59)

Literally yesterday you said something. It was something about, like, you're getting dragged or being criticized. It's about something. And I was like, well, it's weak because.

Guest Host (12:07)

Yeah, but there was something else. Like, not as serious or something, like eating or something. You're like, well, this is what we do. And I was like, God, it was something else. And I was like, okay, it's not we. It's just me. But I love that you put it. Put me in there. You always. You always have. No, as soon as. Yeah. I mean, I was on. I was on a sinking ship. But Moses. Moses jumped on there with me. He's like, well, we are in this. But regardless. Yes. Yeah. Nobody wants to hear it. You know what I mean? Like, hot take, like, you know what I mean? Not to be. Whatever. But I was there, too, girl. Like, I was there too. And it's like, but you have a mortgage. And most people, A lot of people don't even have mortgages. They'll never have a mortgage in their life. So they don't. They do not want to hear it. Especially when you spend all the money and show all the things and you can just get a sponsorship and. But it's literally like, time and place, and time and place has not been anything since 2015. You know what I mean? Like, nobody wants to see it. I see this all the time with, like, luxury halls with us. Even when we were going through it, I was never like, hey, guys, broke need money. You know what you do? You just gotta. You gotta just post all those links and hustle as you can.

Trisha (12:58)

Yeah.

Guest Host (12:59)

Keep working because no one wants to hear it. You know what I mean? In fact, it's the opposite. Not only do people not want to hear it, they're gonna put that evil eye on you and be excited. They're gonna rejoice in your brokenness. They'll be like, exactly. I guess you're talking about that Rolls Royce, Trish, you know? And it's like, yeah, period. You know? So. Yeah, I had seen that clip. I love Nikki and Gabby. I think Gabby does, like an antique store store or something in Pittsburgh now. Yeah. And I think. I think Nikki's just, like, renting here in la and she's like, so happy to be rid of the house. And like, honestly, that's T2. It is great to have a house, but it takes money and time and someone who can be on it. Because again, without Moses, I'm. I'm moving. I'm going to a condo. I'm going to a place, maybe a hotel. They seem to do everything for you there. I don't know a cheaper one. I'm not gonna be at the Langham, but, you know, I don't think I could manage a house by itself. It's a lot.

Trisha (13:47)

Yeah. And I think also it speaks to, like, living within your means. I think, like, influencers in general, we kind of see, want to, like, keep up with the appearances. So they kind of go really extravagant because they have so much money at that time. But, like, you have to think long term. Like, how realistic can I keep this going? So, yeah, I think a lot of people also just, like, got too big of a house or you know what I mean? Like, just spending too much.

Guest Host (14:13)

Well, that. That happened with. Not to bring her up again because we left ours, bro. She doesn't like a do I love you too. And Tana does too. I saw her react to be like, tana loves you. I love you. I really do love you.

Trisha (14:24)

But the tough love of it all.

Guest Host (14:25)

Tough love of it all. It's also just like, been there. Listen to this. You know what I mean? Because it's like, like we always say is like, if a thousand people are coming down on you, it's like, you might want to listen to it. And if you don't, then you're just being stammered. But she was also talking about how she could no longer afford her mortgage that was out of her price range. And, you know, it's just the nature of it. And.

Moses (14:44)

But also it is true that a. There's no financial education. Like, nobody gets educated about it.

Guest Host (14:51)

Yeah.

Moses (14:51)

And when you do go to buy a house, everyone around you encourages you to borrow the most money, buy the biggest house, get the biggest mortgages, not the right terms. So a lot of those people just didn't have anyone on their side that could advise them. Even for us, you know, there was an option of a bigger house, but I was like, no, because, like, the taxes you're going to pay every year on the house are higher. The amount of money for the rent. And you have to count for what if there's a two, three years. That economy is not doing well.

Guest Host (15:22)

Yeah.

Moses (15:22)

And you have that money saved aside so you can pay your mortgage so you don't lose the house. Like, there's nothing worse than losing a house. So for those people that did have to sell their house, it's horrible. Like, it is. It is horrible.

Guest Host (15:35)

I mean, probably dying is worse.

Moses (15:36)

No, I mean for like a living. I'm just saying. I'm just saying, like, when you do.

Guest Host (15:40)

Worse things there.

Moses (15:46)

There's probably a thousand things that are worse. I'm saying for the people that worked hard to get their home and get their home and they're situated, then to lose that, it feels like you lost everything you worked for, like in the last 10 years. Right. Like you work towards that. So I do feel bad for them for losing their home.

Guest Host (16:03)

Yeah. Thank God we didn't. Yeah. That house I really did want. Yeah. I was. I was in the Tara situation where I was doing the of it all and making like so much money. But like. And yeah, we saw that house that we love. We still walk past it, the house. And I was like, oh. Like, yeah, we're like, oh, we could afford this. But I didn't take any concerns. I like, didn't know about property taxes. That's crazy. Property taxes are so crazy. That one I didn't know about. Just like the upkeep. Like, you know, we're doing the. We've been doing construction here for like literally like three months, which is gonna be so expensive. And it's not anything even fun. It's leaks. It's leaks into the house. Their final leak. So we had to redo the entire floors. And it's like. It's just a lot. But you know what? Be careful. Yeah. Like, don't go beyond your means. Yeah, that's a good one.

Trisha (16:45)

We like that financial podcast that we don't know anything about. Bizarre clip of ones.

Guest Host (16:48)

Well, I know I said it and then someone said he's like, problematic and. Yeah. That he has like some. I don't know. I don't know. Allegations. I have no idea what. Yeah. I think it's called financial audit.

Trisha (17:00)

Oh, I don't know. I guess never talk about a straight man podcast. There's gonna be something. Something in there. I don't know what you're saying. It sound a financial bro situation.

Guest Host (17:08)

Oh.

Trisha (17:08)

Just from like contextually. But I could be wrong.

Guest Host (17:11)

He's always without shoes. I see too. I get all my information from X and I always see he's out with shoes. I don't actually. I know nothing about him. Sorry if the allegations are not true. I don't know. Someone just told me. Oh, he has allegations. Like, okay, sorry. I don't know.

Trisha (17:20)

It's. Sorry if you walk with shoes. Apologize because you had it.

Guest Host (17:24)

Well, you know what? I guess sometimes I kick off my shoes. I hate a barefoot podcast, but sometimes it is comfortable to do.

Trisha (17:28)

Yeah. And some. You usually would do that back in the day for the extended episodes on Patreon.

Guest Host (17:33)

My shoes were too. But weirdly, yeah, I don't love to wear shoes, but I feel weird having.

Trisha (17:39)

My feet, you know, usually barefoot out and about. Is Shawn Mendes. There was, like, recent paparazzi photos of him, like, on a hike in L. A. And he was just barefoot. And I was like, wow, I like that.

Guest Host (17:49)

I feel like that keeps you grounded in Wiccan or in trishcraft. You love to be one with the earth, so you let your feet be barefoot so you're grounded into the soil.

Trisha (17:56)

Okay, word.

Guest Host (17:57)

Yeah, it's really great. I do love that. I love being. I'm barefoot all the other times. Like in our house. Like, I'm always a barefoot person. You wear shoes in the house late. Not shoes, but you wear house shoes.

Moses (18:08)

It was winter. Yes.

Guest Host (18:10)

Oh, really?

Moses (18:10)

It's called.

Guest Host (18:12)

Your mom wears house shoes too. She never liked that I was barefoot. She's like, you're gonna hurt your back. And I was like, maybe. Maybe she's on to something. My back does not feel good. But I say, you're gonna hurt your back. And I was like, okay, I like that. Shawn Mendes. I like him. I think he's. I think he's cool. You never hear anything about him, though.

Trisha (18:28)

Yeah, he's been pretty low key lately. He has a new girlfriend. Although I sent you this, too. I'd be sending you things lately for you to read at your leisure, but there's one viral video of Camila Cabello and Shawn Mendes. I think it was like 2020 ish or 2021, when they were, like, walking in their neighborhood, like in pajamas. Yes. And I was like, how have you and Moses not recreated that yet? I feel like you should at some point.

Guest Host (18:50)

That's us on our daily walks when we go, that's how slow I walk. And it's usually. Was he holding a cup? Because Moses always has a cup of tea with him. So I want to say he was holding a cup. And everyone's like, that's so weird. Well, who brings a cup out on A walk. And I was like, well, actually Moses does. And it was like a proper. I believe this is the same photo, a ceramic mug. And everyone was kind of shook that he had one, but maybe not. Maybe they were just walking outside.

Trisha (19:10)

That is a different one. I guess they were doing that a lot.

Guest Host (19:13)

They were just going on.

Trisha (19:14)

Yeah, like, with. There is one of them holding ceramic mugs. And then the one that is like a meme now is like, Let me see. No mug, but it's like this one, but similar vibe. Like, they're still watching us.

Guest Host (19:26)

Yeah.

Moses (19:28)

No dogs.

Guest Host (19:28)

No. They're in, like, pajamas. Or are they. Or is it just her?

Trisha (19:32)

They're both kind of wearing just like, I guess, technically pajamas.

Guest Host (19:36)

He has basketball shorts on. What's he have?

Trisha (19:37)

He has basketball shirts on and a white tank top. And she has a little, like, bow. She has, like, a free people look to her, I think. I don't know. A little bohemian, but.

Guest Host (19:46)

Okay, we're gonna recreate it. That's us. We've been going on walks.

Trisha (19:48)

This is giving very. You and Moses, for sure. You the you go girl shirt. Like, that's so.

Guest Host (19:55)

That is so awesome. We got paparazzi one time, and that kind of looks like us. It was at the Jamba Juice in 2020, I think.

Trisha (20:01)

I guess paparazzi were just like, damn, what are we gonna take a photo of today?

Guest Host (20:06)

We were in La Cienega, I think, and I look horrible. I look so bad. I'm like. And I'm short and, like, stout like that. Not like that, but, like, just in general. And then Moses is with his tall, long hair. Well, there's not a lot of paparazzi in our area, but I guess Malibu takes good photos. I guess I could have her take one, because I'm trying to think logistically how we take that photo.

Trisha (20:28)

I mean, you could just have, like, a tripod far away and then just walk.

Guest Host (20:31)

It's hard to get that movement with.

Trisha (20:33)

Oh, that's true.

Guest Host (20:34)

You know?

Trisha (20:35)

Yeah.

Guest Host (20:35)

Even at that pink wall yesterday, I thought, oh, there's gonna be influencers take pictures of me. Like, somebody there would want to take a picture, you know, like, would. Would take a picture if I asked, but there's not one person. There is.

Trisha (20:44)

The. The pink wall was kind of over for a while.

Guest Host (20:46)

You know what I noticed? And I think Nikki actually posted. I think it was Nikki. I think Alexis Oakley. Everyone was posting their 2016 pictures, and they were all in front of a pink wall, and they were all posting that. Oh, no, it was. It was Kristen McAtee that's who it was. Krista McAtee posted in front of a pink wall yesterday from 2016. And who was it? Who? I just had somebody, but someone else.

Trisha (21:04)

Alexis Oakley.

Guest Host (21:04)

Alexis Oakley. Yeah. And because that's like a trend now is like posting photos from 2016. Yeah. Did you do it?

Trisha (21:09)

No.

Guest Host (21:10)

What was that era for you? God.

Trisha (21:12)

I was thinking about that too. I was working. I was working at Access Hollywood. I was bigger and yeah, I was still big. I didn't start losing weight till end of 2017.

Guest Host (21:25)

Okay. Oh, we met then. We must have met.

Moses (21:28)

Yeah.

Guest Host (21:28)

In 2017.

Trisha (21:29)

Yeah. But yeah, I was just working.

Guest Host (21:33)

Nothing memorable about 2016. No pictures to post.

Trisha (21:38)

I mean, I'm sure I do. My problem is I archived everything where I was ugly, so I guess I could go and see.

Guest Host (21:43)

You should pull them out the archives. Let's see them. Because first of all, you're probably not ugly. You know, I feel like people think that I look back at old photos when I thought I was ugly or fat. I'm just like, damn, I was kind of. That's kind of everything.

Trisha (21:56)

Well, yeah, you were really hard on yourself, though, but that you probably were too. No, I was factually obese, like, scientifically so.

Guest Host (22:02)

But doesn't mean you're ugly.

Trisha (22:03)

That's true.

Guest Host (22:04)

You know, so I feel just because. And sometimes you don't think that. Although I have been seeing a thing lately on Twitter called fat blindness. Have you seen this?

Trisha (22:12)

No.

Guest Host (22:12)

They say, like, you don't know how fat you are until you lose weight and look back at photos.

Trisha (22:16)

Diagnosed me with that right this second. Yeah, I mean, like, I guess I had caught. Like I would go to the doctor and see how much I would weigh, but I didn't really. It wasn't clicking or like my idea license. Like my driver's license had like the weight. My weight on it. It was like I was 18. It was like 280. And like in my head, I never really, like, was like, oh, that's really heavy. You know, for some of my height.

Guest Host (22:40)

So you seem that heavy. I'm 250 and I'm like, well, I think I'm like 600 pound. Life. And I'm like, not that, you know.

Trisha (22:46)

You body checking, like 600 pound. Life is crazy.

Guest Host (22:50)

I'm not a bad. No, I like life. I mean, it's fine. But like, they can't. They don't move. You know what I mean? And I feel like if you don't move, then it's a problem. I think if you're just like, Big. But you're, like, living life.

Trisha (23:02)

Yeah.

Guest Host (23:03)

I think there's no issue with that. Someone. And maybe I retweeted. I can't remember. Someone tweeted, like, I think it was Dorinda or someone from Housewives. And I was like, how I feel knowing Trisha Paytas is not on GLP1s. And it's like, thank you, thank you, thank you. And I was like, it was really cute. Yeah. And people are kind of gagged by it. People are always like, how come you're not on them? Like, I don't know. Should I be?

Trisha (23:23)

It is. I think it's just, like, literally the minority. Like, you look. Especially now that it's, like, award season, you see so many people, like, out and about. Everyone is just like, it really is teeny. And it's. Now it's just a surprise. You. It really is like being the Katniss Everdeen if you. If you resist. Because it's literally like, I looked on. I just, like, opened Amazon to, like, order, like, cat food or something. And, like, the first thing was, like, four different GLP ones that they can prescribe you. And now I'm like, damn, all you got to do is open Amazon. You can get a GLP1. That's crazy.

Guest Host (23:53)

Yeah. My Botox plays text. Not me specifically, but just, like, a promotional thing. Yeah, promotional thing. And they're like, you can get a slim shot. You can get terzepatide. And I was like, damn. Just that. A Botox place. And then I. I did text back just to inquire, and I was just like, oh, like, how. How do you. And then you just have to, like, go over the phone with, like, one of their doctors and then.

Trisha (24:09)

So crazy.

Guest Host (24:10)

Get it.

Trisha (24:11)

Yeah.

Guest Host (24:12)

People are always. Are always shocked. I don't know.

Trisha (24:15)

Maybe.

Guest Host (24:16)

I don't know. I go back and forth with it, but I didn't even tell you. Like, yesterday, too, I was at the hair salon, and I was telling you, I think I want to go on, you know, a GLP one just to lose a little bit. 20. And, like, it's always mixed. It's always like. You know, most people in real life are like, no. Like, no, you are. You. Like, this makes you you. And I can't imagine you being skinny. But then the people online are always like, how come you're not on a joke, Obiwan? I was like, I don't know. I feel like you have to. I feel like it's one of those things where you have to do.

Trisha (24:40)

I do think people have in General now, just such an extreme idea because we are presented with so many extreme cases of it. But I think for the girls like us, who are just regular girls with, like, who love food and stuff.

Guest Host (24:52)

£20. Yeah.

Trisha (24:53)

We're not gonna be, like, you know, teeny, tiny, bobbleheaded ever. I don't think so.

Guest Host (24:57)

No, I don't think so either. And I just. I don't know. I, like, I get tempted to be like, what does it feel like? Because everyone's just like, some people, like, it's amazing. You're never hungry. But then part of me too is like, get so much Jordan food. You know, I said Moses, like, food things all the time. Like, oh, can we make this chicken pasta? Can we do this? So, like, would I be, like, not excited for life if I'm not eating? I don't know. I don't know, but we'll see. I don't think so, but who knows? I go back and forth. It's just. It is everywhere. It is so everywhere. And people everywhere, no matter where. Like I said, my Botox place, anywhere I go, nail salon. They're like, oh, next door there's an urgent care that does weight loss shots. And people always, always tell me, I saw that tweet today that had like 200,000, like, likes. And I was like, damn, I don't know. I'm torn. I don't know. Like you said maybe just to, like, get a little belly off after being pregnant for so long, I just feel like, oh, I cannot get it off. But, yeah, we'll see. We. Yeah, we'll see.

Trisha (25:50)

I guess. Actually, I have. Weirdly and ironically, I have some financial topics.

Guest Host (25:56)

Okay, Financial.

Trisha (25:57)

Automatically. Yeah, I'm gonna read those nachos. Minus the alleged allegations. Yeah. Which we now know nothing about. Which there may or may not not exist.

Guest Host (26:05)

Just tell me. And they didn't even tell me. What? I'm not laughing. If they're serious, they're serious. I don't know.

Trisha (26:09)

But just us knowing nothing.

Guest Host (26:11)

Yeah, but I love that he has that podcast where he just, like, yell at people for all they spend money.

Trisha (26:15)

Mr. Beast, maybe you should do one. Mr. Beast. Because Mr. B says he has negative money in his bank account.

Guest Host (26:19)

And did people come for him? Like, they did Net Nikki, Honestly, T, they shot.

Trisha (26:23)

That's why I'm like, we were just had a conversation about Mr. Beast on Patreon where we're trying to like, maybe, is he that annoying? Is he that bad? Now I'm back to being a Mr. Beast Hater again. Because this Kind of rubbed me the wrong way. He said that he was speaking to the Wall Street Journal, and he said that he is cash poor despite having the net worth of a billionaire. He said no one ever believes anything I say because they're like, you're a billionaire. I'm like, that's net worth actually have negative money right now. I'm borrowing money. That's how little money I have. Technically, everyone watching this video has more money than me in their bank account. If you subtract the equity value of my company, which doesn't buy me McDonald's in the morning. Don't try to relate to us, okay? Like, me. So wrong.

Guest Host (27:07)

That's crazy to be like, everyone has more money than me right now. Like, I have no cash.

Trisha (27:11)

You have that Saudi Arabia money. So what the hell are you trying to.

Guest Host (27:14)

Oh, I hate it.

Moses (27:15)

And also, what he's hiding is that basically because any of them. Elon Musk of them, yes. They always say, don't use your own money, just borrow it. So they borrow money. Even Donald Trump. That's how I met his fortune. Like, you'll borrow money, you buy real estate, you do projects, you owe that money, it's not yours. And then later on, you sell it out, you cash out, whatever. But that's a rich man's game to borrow money. Most people cannot go to the bank and borrow money. That's. The bank won't give them a dollar.

Guest Host (27:42)

Also, he's a compound. It's like, literally, you're giving cars everyone.

Trisha (27:45)

You have a theme park in Saudi Arabia. You have a show where you're giving away $15 million. You are the number one YouTube channel in literally the world.

Guest Host (27:53)

And we know what we make on this channel.

Trisha (27:54)

It's not number one. So we know what.

Guest Host (27:57)

Yeah.

Trisha (27:58)

Like, it's actually really annoying. And it kind of reminds me of, like, Mark Zuckerberg. Like, he. His. The salary that he pays himself is $1 a year. But you think Mark Zuckerberg really is making one? No. Like, obviously he gets his money from.

Guest Host (28:11)

Other places that are like that. I just think we're dumb. Like, we're stupid.

Trisha (28:14)

I know.

Guest Host (28:15)

And what was the point? Was he, like, on a podcast. Where did it. Where was it?

Trisha (28:18)

It was doing an interview with the Wall Street Journal promoting Beast Game season two.

Moses (28:23)

He's talking a lot in general. Yeah, I see him a lot.

Trisha (28:26)

He did a press tour.

Guest Host (28:27)

Really?

Trisha (28:28)

Yeah.

Guest Host (28:28)

How come he didn't stop?

Trisha (28:29)

That's a great question.

Guest Host (28:30)

I would have him on here. I have. I think I would go a little more hard hitting with Mr. Yeah. Yeah.

Trisha (28:34)

You gotta give him the tough questions because he, he kind of talks like, obviously it technically probably does like we said, have like negative money in there, but there is money in other places that you have access to. So I, I just hate.

Moses (28:50)

He was, he was specific. He said cash poor.

Trisha (28:52)

Yeah.

Moses (28:52)

That means he could be owning tons of real estate, of course. But you use that to borrow money against it to buy other things.

Guest Host (29:00)

So it just negative. Like you think he overdrafted? He's like 35 fee. Like, what does negative mean? How negative can you get?

Trisha (29:08)

That's t. Yeah. That's a question we gotta ask.

Guest Host (29:10)

You can only go.

Trisha (29:10)

So show us your bank account.

Guest Host (29:12)

Yes. As someone who overdrafted many times, I think you can only do like five overdrafts before they're like stop you. And you have to do them quickly. Like you can't do them over a course of time. Like you to do them before the bank realizes you have no money in there. So you can put another. You know what I would do? Don't do this. But like, I would like overdraft because I had to pay it back no matter what. It's not like you're stealing, but like if you saw that you like overdrafted by $7, you could put like another 20 in there. So it gets 13. So you can overdraft again. But then they would just charge you those fees on top of fees. But you have to do it quickly. So I don't think you can like do that negative over the course of a month. Unless it's a rich person thing that I don't know that you can keep overdrafting without the money in there.

Moses (29:44)

Because no, that's not what he's doing. He's like, let's say he has his compound. He goes to the bank, he's like, I have all this real estate. Can I borrow $15 million against it? And then he takes that 50 and he go and does beast games somewhere. You know what I mean? So he keeps building on his money, and now he has another compound.

Guest Host (30:02)

How does he have negative is what I'm asking.

Moses (30:04)

Because he owes. He owes that money. But if he is. But now if he sells both of them, suddenly he has a hundred million dollars in his hand.

Guest Host (30:12)

He's in debt. But not negative cash. You can't be negative cash.

Moses (30:15)

He's negative cash because he doesn't have the cash. But he has things that worth a lot of money.

Guest Host (30:18)

Well, that's everybody then everybody's negative cash. Then like we we have. We owe money on this house for another 25 years. Like, I mean, everyone's negative cash. So that's weird.

Moses (30:27)

That's. That's what he meant. He owes more than he has, which only he can do. We cannot do that.

Trisha (30:33)

Yeah. It's like so manipulative to me to be like. Yeah. And again, if this, again, if this was like a Michaela, imagine Michaela like making a tick tock saying this. The girls would drag her off Tick tock. Like she literally would be dragged by the whole world off of tick tock. Like D platform.

Guest Host (30:53)

Yeah.

Trisha (30:54)

Yes, literally. But somehow you can say that and like gets no clap back. It's so crazy.

Guest Host (31:01)

That's why I want to know what the Mr. Beast, like average fan looks like. Is it just little boy? Maybe it's just young boys.

Trisha (31:05)

It's just young boys. I do.

Guest Host (31:06)

So they're just like, like I don't even care anything he's talking about.

Trisha (31:08)

Yeah. And maybe just believing it, but obviously there's no way that's true. And it's just like you're. At some point you got to just own it. Like listen, the Paul brothers, at least they own that they are insanely, excessively, sickeningly rich. You know, so rich, I think from the, obviously from originally like social media, but now definitely with sports, whatever really. So boxing, whatever the hell they do.

Guest Host (31:36)

Really, like how much are they getting paid?

Trisha (31:38)

A lot. I mean even that the Mike Tyson fight, I think Jake made like, what? Like 20 million off of that from that one fight.

Guest Host (31:45)

Because they really do act like I'm not act like. But they look like they have like a billion dollars. Like they're just on jets and fancy things, I think.

Moses (31:50)

I mean prime was a huge company. Like they do. But Logan Paul, he talked recently about his YouTube channel and the amount of money they did just from selling merch at the time and all that.

Guest Host (32:01)

Really.

Moses (32:02)

They used to make a lot of money just from YouTube views selling merch. Because think about like their audience in the month. Yeah, they made a lot of money.

Guest Host (32:10)

They were like good boy market is not bad. Like Mr. Beast and stuff. I guess these like young boys are kind of there. They always want the, the 18, 24 year old girls. But I guess the, the boys plus.

Trisha (32:19)

The crypto stuff too, which they really leaned into. And they were like one of the like some of the first like big influencers I think to really like promote crypto. And the alleged, alleged. According to Rosanna Pintino rug pools that she uncovered. Remember, Remember that stuff when she Was like really going in on her channel, like.

Moses (32:40)

Yeah.

Trisha (32:41)

When she was going against. Yeah. When? During the lunch. Leave it all.

Guest Host (32:44)

Oh yeah. She really did.

Trisha (32:45)

Yeah.

Guest Host (32:46)

Admire someone like that to go up against these people's money dogs.

Trisha (32:50)

Yeah.

Guest Host (32:50)

Because one thing about people's money, which is annoying, especially these men in the world is like they always just win. It's like the David with the Jeff. Yeah, David and Goliath. Wait, I guess Jeff would be the David in that situation. David's the Goliath. Okay. Well, it doesn't really close. Yeah. But same, the same sort of thing. It's just like how do you compete with someone who can just drag it out for the rest of their lives?

Trisha (33:09)

Yeah. And Jake Paul posted a video. The Paul family ranch is this new channel that he's working on. It's a $40 million ranch and he wants to create a private members club and he is working on building a private landing strip for like private planes and also a racetrack on this 40 million dollar.

Guest Host (33:30)

I did hear this. Was I listening to Logan Paul? Like I do not listen to their podcast. I must have just saw a clip of it or something.

Trisha (33:36)

Yeah, he just also bought a private jet. This ranch is in Georgia.

Guest Host (33:42)

Yeah.

Trisha (33:42)

Jake also bought a 16 million dollar mansion in Puerto Rico.

Guest Host (33:46)

60.

Trisha (33:47)

16, 16.

Guest Host (33:48)

So that's like, that's what I'm saying is so crazy because that's like, like that's his boxing fight. So he must be making more money. Just other places.

Trisha (33:54)

Yeah, I mean between the boxing stuff, crypto, YouTube, tick tock, selling his likeness to AI, like that's crazy.

Guest Host (34:03)

What would you, would you ever do that?

Trisha (34:05)

No.

Guest Host (34:07)

Like, God, could I do it for like, what do we say, like 100 million or something? Maybe.

Trisha (34:12)

But then you could probably like never. I don't know, like it'd be hard for like to get acting jobs because then they could just buy your AI and then not have to pay you to act.

Guest Host (34:21)

Yeah, that's a good, that's a good thing because it's like in me and my head, like that's 100 million. Who cares about acting? But I do love it. So. Yeah, that would suck.

Trisha (34:26)

And then plus your voice singing, like you would never, you know, make any money off of singing because they could just have your voice make any song and then do their own AI music videos. Like you just lose, you're such a creative person. So you would just lose ownership over your.

Moses (34:40)

Justin Bieber sold his catalog for.

Trisha (34:43)

Was it 300, 200 million?

Guest Host (34:44)

I think.

Moses (34:45)

Yeah, 200 million is what I remember right. So it's like. And even death, I'm sure he regrets. So it's like, here, you're selling your entire beam.

Guest Host (34:53)

Yeah.

Moses (34:53)

400.

Guest Host (34:55)

Yeah. Yeah, you're right. But that is crazy to be, like, if someone presented you $100 million, like, to say no to that is wild. But I know what you mean. Like, yes, you lose your spark. Like what you love to do. Yeah. Yep.

Trisha (35:08)

Speaking of Jake Paul, he did allegedly get clocks on Tik Tok for wearing a lace front beard, which I thought was like. The comments on this tick tock were like, normally this would make sense, but because it's Jake Paul, it's funny to laugh at him.

Guest Host (35:24)

Wait, but. Oh, because they were. They thought it was weird. They didn't like that.

Trisha (35:27)

No, because it's basically, in a way, gender affirming care to have, like a lace front beard and.

Moses (35:34)

Because he had surgery. Yeah, because his jaw got messed up in the last fight. I mean, he really broke. Shattered his whole jaw.

Guest Host (35:41)

Oh, my God. I didn't see.

Moses (35:43)

And yeah, so just when you have a surgery, you have to shave all the hair.

Trisha (35:46)

Yeah. And he just did an interview and he has like the full, like, he looks completely fine and he has his big, like, beard. But yeah, if you have surgery, obviously they have to shame that. And this Tik tocker, Cody, his username is I'm Cody Jacob. And he said that one of his friends who does hair for, like, inner in entertainment for shows and stuff texted him and said, one of my girls just installed a lace front beard on Jake Paul. He's effed up from that jaw surgery, but he doesn't want the public to know he's paying out of that for glam, which again, is just. It wouldn't be funny, but because it's Jake Paul who is, like, kind of a menace and transphobic in diabolical. Yeah. Yes.

Guest Host (36:31)

I thought that was just Logan. Okay. Yeah. Because I have a little sympathy for Jake. I'm like, oh, I feel like he's got, like, bullied as, like, a kid from his brother and dad. But then I was like, I guess if he's transphobic.

Trisha (36:40)

Yeah.

Guest Host (36:40)

What? Okay.

Trisha (36:42)

So, yeah, this is the concept. So when it's you, you have no problem with gender affirming care. But when it's, you know. Yeah. So that's why.

Guest Host (36:49)

What did he say about.

Trisha (36:51)

He hasn't talked about, like, he did an interview post getting his jaw broken.

Guest Host (36:56)

Yeah.

Trisha (36:57)

And he talked about, like, the surgery, but he didn't say, like, he's not admitting to, like, wearing a lace Front beard.

Guest Host (37:05)

Yeah, you're right.

Trisha (37:05)

So he's kind of getting clocked for it.

Guest Host (37:07)

Okay, well, like, you're right. I mean, look, I'm not for any like that, like. Yeah, I know what you mean. Like, if you're transphobic, you suck.

Trisha (37:14)

Yeah. And then.

Guest Host (37:14)

But I kind of. I guess.

Trisha (37:16)

And it's like just the double standard. Like, whenever there's like, I forget which city of housewives, but some of the. Like recently at BravoCon, like, some of the housewives, there were some that are, like, transphobic. And then I think it was in Salt Lake City, the housewives are. There's a. Yeah, there's some that, like, in Orange county, there's some conservative ones and I. There's another one of the other franchises where there's some, like, conservative ones.

Guest Host (37:38)

Like, on tv, they're transphobic or just like, people speculate.

Trisha (37:41)

I think politically they are. They're not like. Yeah, but.

Guest Host (37:45)

And they're not like, on TV being like.

Trisha (37:47)

But like, on social media they are, if that makes sense. Yeah. And one of them, I think it was Meredith Marks, I want to say, was like, these girls, like, they're going. They're getting their. Their lips filled, their Botox, like, they're getting pickled. And all of a sudden now you're for a pro. You're pro gender affirming care. But then you want to be transphobic. Like, it's like you're also, you know, benefiting. Yeah.

Guest Host (38:08)

Yeah. So it's like I was a Jacob Elordi or someone recently said, like, we should bring back, like, shaming. And I feel like that's the case. I feel like people are way too comfortable just saying whatever they want on social media and just like, in life in general. Because, like, like, just people commenting on anything like that is just so weird. Like, just another person. Like, why do you care?

Trisha (38:24)

Yeah.

Guest Host (38:25)

Especially like these Orange county hoes that just. Just like, just be rich and just like off from everyone else. Like, that's so. Yeah, I hate people like that. They are the worst. You're right.

Trisha (38:35)

I think in selling Sunsets, like, Chrishell recently had to quit the show because, like, some of the other. There was another girl who was, like, very homophobic and transphobic and stuff. And Chris, she was a partner and it was like a whole thing where, like, she was like, I just can't do this anymore because I can't be on a show with someone. So it's weird. Like, yeah, normally Hollywood is very, like, you know, liberal, you know, now it's kind of like people are just more comfortable being.

Guest Host (39:02)

That's so scary. I hate that. That, like, I feel like. No, absolutely, you should be. Because who was it? Oh, Ashley Tisdale, when people were like, like, you should definitely speculate. It should be like, you know, it's like a modern day, like, witch hunt. But, like, who's the transphobic ones? You know what I mean? Because there should be some, like, repercussions.

Trisha (39:17)

Yeah, let's bring that back.

Guest Host (39:18)

Yeah, yeah. Because it's like, it's a. It's just a person. It's just like another person that, like, literally isn't bothering you, which I never understand any of that. And like you said, when they can benefit from the same, like the front, the. The beard, you know, the superficial beard and stuff like that artificial beard. It's like, that makes you feel better.

Trisha (39:35)

Yeah.

Guest Host (39:35)

Why can't other people.

Trisha (39:36)

Yeah, yeah. You worded that perfectly. Like, if you can do something that makes you feel like more yourself.

Guest Host (39:41)

Yeah.

Trisha (39:42)

And present a certain way, then why is it a problem when other people are trying to do that? That's the tea. That is.

Guest Host (39:48)

The tea gave herself early. So she's off selling.

Trisha (39:50)

Yeah, I. I don't watch these shows anymore, so I'm all. I'm filtering it through, like, obviously the headlines and stuff, but I remember, like, she was going off on, like, an Instagram story. She was like, exposing this, this, and this. And she was like, I just. I don't want to be on a show with someone like this. Like, it's not a good environment.

Guest Host (40:06)

These girls. Like, why are these girls. What are the girls hating for? Like, that's so weird. Like, what's the reason? Is that from. Is that Portia? What is the reason? I understand. Who said that? Who said. What's the reason?

Moses (40:19)

Who said that?

Guest Host (40:20)

No, what? Someone says, what is the reason?

Trisha (40:22)

Yeah. Oh, that's Cardi B. Oh, okay. That was when she was on.

Moses (40:29)

God.

Trisha (40:30)

What show was she on for when Podak Yellow came out? Like Love and hip hop or one of those.

Guest Host (40:34)

Oh, was she on there?

Trisha (40:35)

Yeah, she was on. That's when she did, like, remember. Do you remember the meme? I don't know if you remember it, but it was like, oh, never gets cold.

Guest Host (40:41)

No, but it was.

Trisha (40:42)

Oh, yeah, it was like winter and she was wearing a skimpy outfit and she was like, oh, never gets cold.

Guest Host (40:46)

She was. I didn't know she was on Love and.

Trisha (40:48)

Yeah, she was on, like, before Bodak Yellow or even, like, during that era is. She was on a reality show. So she had, like, kind of A following. And then.

Guest Host (40:55)

Yeah, I did wonder where she came from.

Trisha (40:59)

That was. God, I think that was 2016 or 2017.

Guest Host (41:03)

Isn't Nicki Minaj transphobic? Because I know Nicki Bucardi.

Trisha (41:06)

Yeah.

Guest Host (41:06)

And it's like, like, what the hell happened? What is happening? Something. You know when they have those, like, little, like, smoke things that go through the air? Maybe they're putting, like, the chemtrails. Yeah, maybe. Because what is happening?

Trisha (41:19)

Yeah, Like, I don't understand.

Guest Host (41:22)

Especially Nikki, who literally was like, for the dolls, for the gays. Like, what?

Trisha (41:27)

I know Cardi was on the. On Drag Race, the premiere episode, and I thought it was sweet. She had her stylist and her makeup artist, or. No, her wig stylist and her makeup artist. She, like, featured them in the show because they transition. And she was like, I owe everything to the dolls. I love the dolls. And I thought that was really sweet.

Guest Host (41:50)

Yeah. Especially, like, now it's, like, crazy that, like. Like, we're regressing. You know what I mean? Like, that's so weird. Especially the girls out there. Like, all these girls in, like, entertainment and, like, what is happening?

Trisha (42:01)

Like, especially when you think about, like, when it. Because I see everyone be doing, like, you know, clock the T, and everyone's doing this. Like, yes. Lay the house death drop this. That. That's all from ballroom culture, which is all like, black, trans, queer culture. So you can't be trans. If you're going to be transphobic, then don't use any of the words that originate. Like, I. If you're gonna say I'm spilling the tea and you're a transphobic, like, girl, you don't get that privilege. So, yeah, change. Stick to your own. Yeah. Stick to your own boring, hetero words.

Moses (42:30)

Then go to Starbucks.

Trisha (42:32)

Yeah, sure. I don't know.

Guest Host (42:38)

Starbucks and Target, allegedly. Just go shop there. That is weird. I hate this. I hate it so much. Yeah. I feel like those people should not be given platforms.

Trisha (42:48)

Yeah. But you know what? It'll come back around at some point. But we will remember. We're not gonna forget.

Guest Host (42:53)

Nope. Never.

Trisha (42:54)

It's going to be like 2020 all over again. When everyone was like, just, God, do you remember this? TikTok keeps going around of, like, cringy influencer moments. And it was. I think it was one of the Lopez brothers, I want to say, being like, black lives matter. Like, just kind of reading these, like, talking points of, like, black lives matter. And it was, like, so awkward and cringy. But, like, honestly, bring that back. Like, you know, I Agree.

Guest Host (43:18)

Well, yeah, some of it was cringy, but. But I guess it's better to be cringe than, like, say it. Yeah. To be the opposite. To just be like. What was the opposite back then was everyone says, like, all Eyes Matter. Okay. You know what I mean? Like, then people, like, lose the plot of it. Although I guess that's just. Every era of social media, there's always people just saying stupid like that. And it's just. But it really needs to stop somehow. And I don't know who it is to stop it, but us. Jacob Elordi. Oh, my gosh. Okay. I feel I have an idea for a Patreon.

Trisha (43:52)

We.

Guest Host (43:54)

We should do a book club. Love. Right now I'm reading Wuthering Heights, and I really feel like you should start reading it.

Trisha (44:00)

Okay.

Guest Host (44:00)

Word. Because I wanted to know what it's about because, like, I've been so excited for the trailer and I'm doing the cosplays and I'm like, oh, I love this, but I'm like, let me, like, read the book. And it's, like, really good. And I feel like you should read it too, and then we can talk about it.

Trisha (44:09)

I would be down. I think back in the day, I have, like, a memory of.

Guest Host (44:14)

Did you read.

Trisha (44:15)

I remember I bought it at a Barnes and Noble once because I think there was another adaptation back in the day. And it was, like, starring this girl who was in a show that I liked. God, was it. Let me see. What's her name is? Kaya Scott. Yes. Okay. 2011, this actress, Kaya Scottalario, was in this, like, really Tumblr famous show called Skins and, like, a famous show, but it was, like, big on Tumblr. And I remember, like, when she was starring Wuthering Heights, I was like, I. I was instantly obsessed because I loved Kaya Scott Delorio. And then I bought the book, but I don't think I read it. All that to say I'm down to long story short. Yes.

Guest Host (44:53)

Before the movie comes out. Wait, was it. So was it a TV show she was in or what was it?

Trisha (44:56)

I think it was a movie. Like, it was another adaptation of it. Yeah. In 2011.

Guest Host (45:01)

Oh, my gosh. Okay. Yeah, we need to read the book together. I feel like it's so much funner to talk about it when, like, someone reads it too. Like, I can't just sit here and give you, like, oh, my gosh, this is so good. Like, I need you to, like, read it.

Trisha (45:11)

Yeah, I'm down for that.

Guest Host (45:13)

When. When.

Trisha (45:14)

When I'll pause Twilight and then I'll. Oh, are you doing that Wuthering Height?

Guest Host (45:18)

Are you doing Twilight?

Trisha (45:18)

Yeah, well technically I was going to start the Housemaid too but I can also pause that because I think that movie is going to come out in like two years. So I have some time on that. Wuthering Heights. Is that a tighter deadline?

Guest Host (45:28)

I know I want to read it all before I'm almost like halfway through it already. Yeah. It wasn't my hair appointment yesterday so my hair takes like six hours so I'm like. And then I listened to some of it too on the way home so there's a little bit of audiobook there too.

Trisha (45:41)

And I forgot I'm competing with the nearly world record breaking speed reader so I really gotta.

Guest Host (45:46)

Yeah. And honestly speed reading, I'd probably break the record speed talking that turns.

Trisha (45:50)

Oh yeah.

Guest Host (45:51)

My, my tongue kind of go hand in hand. They do. But I'm a quicker reader because you can just go so quick when you're reading as opposed to like my mouth can't keep up with this pace that I'm reading at. So that's where it's a little different I guess.

Trisha (46:03)

How would you be able to prove that you're the fastest reader?

Guest Host (46:07)

They have to read your mind. I guess they have to like track your brain waves maybe. I don't know. I'm a pretty fast reader. Are you a fast reader?

Trisha (46:14)

Relatively, yeah. Not anywhere near like a record breaking but like when I'm locked in to a book I can read pretty fast.

Moses (46:20)

Yeah.

Guest Host (46:21)

I feel like book books go quickly. I think it was like Britney's that I read in like a day.

Trisha (46:25)

Yeah.

Moses (46:25)

Because you read a lot of articles you true you read more than the usual person.

Guest Host (46:29)

Oh yeah. You love an article.

Trisha (46:30)

I do love an article.

Guest Host (46:31)

I love an article. When they don't have Papa Bads. I know we have to get to the pop ads. I don't love them or they like it to pay.

Trisha (46:36)

And the cookies of it all too. Except cookies. Reject the cookies. All cookies.

Guest Host (46:40)

I always accept cookies. And I'm like just stop asking me every website.

Trisha (46:44)

No, it's sick.

Guest Host (46:45)

So weird. I was like I am over the cookies. Why do they do that?

Trisha (46:49)

I don't know. I think it's. Is it some law that they have to say like make you accept or decline or whatever? I do and I'm sure there is some reason. I guess it can probably retain more of your information or whatever. This is probably problematic of me but I'm just like everything I feel like is just out There already like girl, what else? I. Somewhere out there my, my information is on the black market. Anyone could access it. I'm like, there really is not much like you know there. So. Anything else? Sure.

Moses (47:16)

At this point, I think in California they just passed a new law that you can request and they force those companies to delete your information.

Trisha (47:24)

California can be good.

Guest Host (47:26)

See, they're already starting.

Trisha (47:28)

They're already on it.

Guest Host (47:28)

Okay, that's good. When did that happen?

Moses (47:32)

I just saw it like yesterday. So anything, anything that's not already public, anything that you didn't put out, the public yourself, they have to delete.

Guest Host (47:42)

Who's they?

Moses (47:43)

The companies that are storing all your information. Like all those spam calls or the spam emails, like all the stuff you get.

Guest Host (47:50)

That's good. We do get a lot of spam calls. So I'm Florida, I would be governor is proposing a syntax. Yes, I saw this because I saw Sophie Raines reply.

Trisha (48:00)

Yeah.

Guest Host (48:01)

Never in my whole life did I think that I would wake up and see a Florida politician trying to start beef with me for clout. So he's proposing a syntax on BOPS where we would have to pay 50 to the state on top of the 37 I already paid to the government. It and I would be more than happy to pay that if multi billion dollar corporations were also being properly taxed. But surprise, they're not. I never usually get into politics, but there are clearly better ways to raise funds from actual corrupt businesses in our country. I think that people also fail to realize that there are so many creators on this platform that do this job because they're struggling. So to tax them like that when they're literally doing it just to support their families is sad. I would much rather continue donating directly to people in need because we all really know where our tax dollars go. Proposing a 50% syntax on of models that they have to pay 50% of their income to the state on top of I guess what is the 37% that's already of the Florida state tax. And so Vrain made a response and she was like, I'd be happy to donate an extra 50% or pay an extra 50% tax but like the bigger corporations don't have to, it's just the of models. And I don't know who this person is and I don't want to be like don't support. But this sounds a little dubious, you know what I mean? Like why his, his I guess logic behind it is like they want to educate smart girls. He said like her to not Go into that field which is like, okay, do that, but not with. And as Sophie Rain pointed out, it's like people go into that work because they're struggling. So why are you taxing these independent workers as opposed to. Yeah, like a big. What's a big corporation in Florida?

Moses (49:45)

I mean, do they have. Do they have casinos in Florida? Do they have what casinos? Gambling?

Guest Host (49:53)

I don't know. No, I don't think. I don't think so. I think gambling is like, only legal.

Moses (49:58)

And do they say alcohol, sell alcohol? There's so many sinful things that are. That corporation let. Like a corporation that sells alcohol.

Guest Host (50:09)

Yeah. I think he's just trying to attack sex workers.

Trisha (50:11)

Yeah. Someone was like, he must have spent a ton of money on a laugh and regretted it. And I was like, damn. Like, let me. Yeah, because, yeah, it's coming from a Republican candidate who's running for Florida governor. And the. His statement was. It is called a syntax because it is a sin number one. But the purpose of the sin tax and economics is to decent advice and deter a behavior of online degeneracy. And yes, as Florida governor, I don't want young women who could otherwise be mothers, raising families, rearing children. I don't want them to be selling their bodies to sick men online. First of all, clock this tea. Do you know how many, like, gay for pay men in Florida are making bank?

Guest Host (50:53)

Yes.

Trisha (50:53)

Like, literally. I feel like if you really looked at the numbers there, there is probably more straight men pandering, flashing their holes and this, that to get gay people's money than grow. So, so focusing on like, women is so like, girl, let's be serious. And I know that you were on there spending a dime. It could go either way. James Fishback, allegedly, in my opinion, I think you were spending a dime on there. Like, let's see the, the, like, let me see the receipt.

Guest Host (51:22)

Yeah, like, why the anger? Like, that's your platform. That's what you're gonna like, run on. Like. And I'm, I'm telling you, the people of Florida, God bless them, but I don't think they care about this. You know what I mean? They're living with the crocodiles. They're living with.

Trisha (51:38)

You know, they're just rising sea levels.

Guest Host (51:40)

Is it okay with disaster down there? I don't think they care about this. You know what I mean? Like, I think, I think Europe, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know anything about Florida. I don't know their politics, but I feel like this is not the move for them.

Trisha (51:54)

Yeah. Also just like to specifically, like he specifically targeted her. So he specifically targets Sophie.

Guest Host (52:00)

Right.

Trisha (52:01)

I don't know much about her, but it's just weird to like target one woman specifically just to like. I don't know. Like I said, there's probably way more men than girl creators on of from Florida and she's like the biggest.

Guest Host (52:13)

She's like, she's like such a big one. So I guess he's just probably trying to get his name out there as politicians like to do right now. So I don't know. She had a way more articulate response than him and she was like. She was also like, like I'm down but just also tax these like bigger corporations which you're not going to do. And they're just attacking like you said, mostly the women. Yeah, obviously he's. And why what he said because they want them to be wives and have kids.

Trisha (52:34)

Yeah. And she said why are you taxing the creator? Why not the subscriber? By that logic that this makes no sense. Florida is of central. You are just going to drive them out of the state and then what? Yeah, so he said, she said Fishback is going to go after a group of people who work very hard for their money just because he himself is against it. I feel like it is also a constitutional violation which is. Yeah.

Moses (52:57)

Which is kind of also if you want people to get married and have kids, give them benefits to do that instead of.

Guest Host (53:03)

Yeah.

Moses (53:03)

I mean if you're gonna stop somebody from doing that kind of work, they're just going to do it illegally somewhere else and they're you hurting them in that way.

Guest Host (53:11)

Or go legally to Nevada.

Moses (53:14)

Yeah. Like if you want to support that fund that give them more money to have kids, give them more money to stay home moms like help them.

Guest Host (53:22)

That's another reason why I hate Florida. Whoever this guy is. Fish Tank is his name. No. Thank you.

Trisha (53:29)

This is our wokest episode ever. That's the title Wokest episode ever.

Moses (53:35)

And again it's taxes and finances.

Guest Host (53:38)

To me it's like not even woke. It's just like human decency. Just like let humans do whatever the they want and stop being such an on a prick about it all. Like it's just so crazy because I don't, I don't consider myself like too woke. I kind of can see both sides everything but it's like as far as like people hating on trans people or gender affirming care or like this guy with of models who are already paying 37 it's like, what is wrong in your life? Like, why are you so obsessed with other people? Like, it's so. It's so weird. Hate all of it. I guess it's a lot of politics though. Even like abortions and stuff. It's like, yeah, men fight so hard to be like, no abortion. I'm like, how's this affecting you? And if it is affecting you, like, wrap up your ding dong. I don't know what I mean. I saw something. This is the woke part. But I like, didn't mind it where they were saying that men should all have vasectomies and then when they can pass. Because I think it's like women who have to pass like a mental health test or something like that to get on birth control. And they're like, yeah, they're like, you should just give vasectomies to every male. And then they have to pass a test to reverse it to start having kids. You know what I mean? So, like, why is it the women? And I was like, yeah, that's pretty woke. But at the same time I was like, kind of there for it because it's like, why is it always on the women? Women want to be on birth control, but then you have to take a test to get on it to make sure that you're like, okay to be on it. It's like, it's a weird, weird world we're living in. It's all to distract us from, like, we talk about aliens coming through the ocean and stuff. Like, I feel like that's all happening and we're just like worried about all this stuff and it's like, okay, but what about, what about the aliens that are coming or that are here?

Trisha (55:09)

Exactly. Yeah.

Guest Host (55:10)

And they distract.

Trisha (55:11)

Yup.

Guest Host (55:11)

They love to do a bait and switch. You know, everything's a distraction. This flying Dutchman's artist distraction, that's all my tick tock is. And I was just like, I feel like there's more important things going on in the world. And that's all I'm hearing about. Because I'll hear stuff and then I'll be like, oh, damn, that's. I mean, I get my information from the in and out flyers. I was like, what's happening? There's trafficking online. Like, I thought it was just at Target. It's crazy. Thank God for those. But I'm just saying, like, they really do try to distract us with this tick tock.

Trisha (55:39)

You know what I mean?

Guest Host (55:41)

Because there's some. There's some serious happening.

Trisha (55:44)

Exactly.

Guest Host (55:44)

I'm trying to Be more aware. But all I see is Flying Dutchman with those little peppers. You eat those? What are they? They're not jalapenos. They're not habanero. They're pretty good, though. I did.

Trisha (55:56)

Huh?

Moses (55:57)

They're just little pickled peppers.

Guest Host (55:59)

Pickled peppers? I don't know about that. I don't. They're pickle. They don't taste pickly. They taste, like, kind of sweet to me today.

Trisha (56:07)

Are they the banana peppers?

Moses (56:09)

Yeah.

Guest Host (56:10)

You did say the banana peppers before. I don't know if that's what it is. Maybe I just say, can I have some peppers? It was a fun experience. I really wish you guys could all been there with me and my drive here trying to get Moses to come, but he wanted to do 10 fish.

Moses (56:21)

So I was kind of like, okay, no, not that. I just had to finish everything up. So when you come back, we start right away, right?

Guest Host (56:28)

You nailed that one. California news. Two restraining orders have been filed. Well, the first restraining order was Brittany Furlan and Ronnie Ratke. Remember this conversation? Did you see this one? She. She filed a restraining order beginning of January.

Trisha (56:48)

Oh, she filed one on him.

Guest Host (56:52)

Yes. And then I believe he filed one back. He did file one back on her. So they're both awaiting their trial dates to see if they'll.

Trisha (57:00)

Well, at that point, you both want to be away from each other, right? So, like, can't you just be like, okay, yeah, I agree.

Guest Host (57:09)

Right. Staying up, double restraining order.

Moses (57:12)

So does that mean both of them just have to stay home? They can't leave the house?

Guest Host (57:15)

I don't know how it works. I guess, like, it'd be more of a gag order, I would think. Because I think what happened was early in January of this year, Brittany was still commenting about this being like, no, that was Ronnie.

Moses (57:27)

So.

Guest Host (57:28)

And then he's like, stop. So I guess he had the restraining order. But, like, yeah, I guess that's just physical. Like, can you still comment if you have a restraining order against someone? I don't know. Not. I'm laughing because it's, like, not uncomfortable, but, like, I don't know how that works. And then. So anyways, and I guess he. He followed one back. Ronnie Racky's girlfriend jumped in the mix and showed a DM that Brittany sent and be like, just wait until the truth comes out. You're gonna be shook by this. So we're all, I want to know more. I need to know more.

Moses (57:57)

Nobody cares, but at the same time, they make us.

Guest Host (57:59)

Nobody cares. Except for me. I'm really invested in this. Well, and TikTok. The side of TikTok. Mom's very invested in this. She like tripled down and be like, it's Rani. The number was saved. That was him talking to me. So she's like adamant it was him. She's asking to be left alone.

Moses (58:13)

But now what is her point? Is it her ego that's hurt from the idea that she was catfish and she wanted to prove I was not catfish. I was talking to him. I suppose the whole Internet reality is he doesn't want anything to do with you, you don't want anything to do with him.

Guest Host (58:27)

Right.

Moses (58:28)

But you're not letting this go.

Guest Host (58:30)

Yeah.

Moses (58:30)

And their spouses are involved. Cuz it's also. Tommy is like in the mix too.

Guest Host (58:34)

Well, I don't know. Is he?

Moses (58:36)

Yeah. Cuz when I saw Ronnie's tik tok and he said that he's also like interfering and. And making claims. I don't know.

Guest Host (58:44)

Well, we don't know if it's really Tommy. When Tommy used to comment on my stuff and call me.

Moses (58:47)

So Ronnie's been catfished by fake.

Guest Host (58:50)

No, I think my theory. This is very. Theory conspiracy. Allegedly. All of it is like, maybe she's on his socials, like messaging. Because I think that's. I was getting some. Back in the day, I was getting some hate from Tommy Lee and I was like, what is a 60 year old doing calling me Spamal Anderson? And I was like, oh, this might be her. Because she was also commenting simultaneously. Maybe it's him. That'd be crazy. If Tommy's just like commenting on my stuff, being like, spamla.

Moses (59:11)

So bring up. The only person that can fix this is Pamela. She needs to come.

Guest Host (59:14)

No, she needs to stay far away from this. We love her and treasure her, but I don't know, I. A double restraining order. Sounds like Oscar said, I think it's best to just leave each other alone.

Trisha (59:25)

Yeah. Because. Okay, so she says that after all the Snapchat, alleged catfish, whatever, that Ronnie started spreading a false narrative that she was getting catfished. Okay. And then he began annoying, harassing, and mocking her on social media and tried to humiliate her in a music video with a hideous body double. She says she wanted nothing more than to be left alone, but says Ronnie started leaving cruel comments on her Instagram from a burner account. She says she told the person behind the account she knew it was Ronnie, and the person responded, miss you madly and included a photo of her from their old Snapchat convo, which she says reinforced her Conviction that it was Ronnie all along and not a catfish. Okay. Britney said she tried to ignore all of Ronnie's mocking content until last week when someone made a video about how she was allegedly catfished. She said Ronnie posted three videos on IG berating her, calling her a liar, and intending for his fans to attack me. Yeah. I think let's just leave each other alone. Like, what? It's a lot. Yeah.

Guest Host (60:25)

I mean, crazy. I'm, like, invested. I'm like, what if she comes out and it's like, yeah, she gets those. Because then Ronnie's girlfriend's like, we're gonna get those ips. And everyone's like, oh, we are seated for this, because what if it is? Wouldn't that be the gag I think.

Moses (60:38)

They will find there? It seems like. Because that person seems like a little bit of a. This online stalker behavior.

Trisha (60:44)

Who?

Guest Host (60:44)

Which one?

Moses (60:45)

The person that originally catfished her to come back at her comments again and fuel the fire.

Guest Host (60:50)

But you don't think it's Ronnie? You think it's, like, someone else?

Moses (60:52)

Yeah, I don't think it's Ronnie.

Guest Host (60:54)

I don't think so either, but would be gagged. And now I need to know. I need to know this conclusion, because she wrote a message to his girlfriend and be like, just wait. Just wait till you see what the truth is. We know the truth. It's about to come out. It's about to shake you is what she said. So I don't know. Maybe.

Moses (61:09)

Yeah. But there's no evidence. So, like, once it goes to court to get a subpoena, you get IP addresses, and then you really find the reality.

Guest Host (61:17)

I want to know who it is.

Moses (61:18)

And there is an instigator. There's somebody behind this that is not them.

Guest Host (61:22)

Well, because. No, but it could be, like, not to be. Whatever. But it's like. It's like that movie Lisa Rinna did on Lifetime, like, last year. It was like her daughter was getting bullied and, like, telling her to, like, off herself, basically unlive herself. And the daughter, like, was, like, looking in the closet. She was hearing dings, and she's, like, looked at her mom's phone, and it's her mom texting the daughter.

Trisha (61:40)

Yeah, that's based on the Netflix did a documentary last year. It's based on a true.

Guest Host (61:44)

Oh, my gosh. What if it's, like. What if it's Britney catfishing herself? You know, allegedly.

Trisha (61:52)

Yeah. Speculatively, yes. Like, was someone closer? Like, an inside job?

Guest Host (61:58)

Can I tell you? Right, yeah, it usually is. But when we have Found out, like, anonymous accounts or like, you know, whatever, and you find out who it is. It does shake you. You're kind of like. Sometimes you think it's just like a random, like, hater in Ohio, like, in the basement, basement dwelling. But then you, like, find out and you're just like, that's weird. That's odd. Why are you doing this? Like someone who's just like, normal. Well, not normal, but normal presenting, you know, like, it's just. It's so I'm seated. I'm sad. I think it's both of them, though, because it's like, you know, if you have someone kind of obsessed like this, like Ronnie, Britney to Ronnie, maybe just Ronnie needs to chill and just do it legally and not have his girlfriend post the conversations and get involved. And, you know.

Moses (62:44)

But what doesn't make sense is that, why is Britney not doing that? She's the one that needs to get a detective, find out who is the person that's been.

Guest Host (62:53)

Well, I think she has this.

Moses (62:57)

It doesn't sound like it. She just talked about a phone number. And anyone now can pretend to be your number. Yeah, they can call you from a number that looks like the person.

Guest Host (63:05)

So people are like. All the comments are just like, wasn't this last year? That's the thing with the new year. Every time. You're like, new Year, new me. But people really do bring last year. You would think there's a weird invisible reset that happens in January 2026, where it's like, yes, it's just the next month. But you do kind of want to leave 2020. You know the past.

Trisha (63:23)

Yes.

Guest Host (63:23)

No matter how awesome it was. Mine was awesome, but you don't need to, like, I don't know. So it's kind of a weird thing to bring over. But I'm seated. I mean, her and Tommy are still together, so that's good. He has a girlfriend. I think that's good. I guess he did do a music video. I will say to Britney's credit on this one. Like, he did do a music video. I think he was using, like, a puppet.

Trisha (63:43)

A puppet was Tommy Lee, in a quote, hideous, unquote. Body double was representative Brittany.

Guest Host (63:48)

Crazy. Because it was a human. Right. It was a person. So.

Trisha (63:50)

But like, with prosthetics and stuff and.

Guest Host (63:54)

Right, right.

Trisha (63:54)

So, I mean, maybe to look like overly plastic surgery.

Guest Host (63:58)

That's why I'm kind of like, okay. I do. I do feel like maybe she might be a little paranoid, but if it turns out to really be him, maybe. I mean, who Makes a music video about someone who, like, was weird like that. You know what I mean? If that was weird and that really happened and she's like, I don't think I'd provoke the.

Trisha (64:14)

The.

Guest Host (64:14)

The crazy anymore. The unhinged, I suppose. Not crazy. So I don't know. I was. I wasn't. I was invested. But hopefully everyone's okay. Grant. The restraining orders. Abide by them.

Trisha (64:29)

Yes.

Guest Host (64:29)

Maybe a gag order should be put into play where you can't talk.

Trisha (64:32)

I guess restraining orders include harassment.

Moses (64:35)

Sometimes it includes that you can't contact that person. You're not allowed to contact them, but they might still be able to make content.

Guest Host (64:43)

You just all need to stop that, too.

Moses (64:45)

Yeah.

Trisha (64:46)

At the end of the day, they both want to be left alone. So just.

Guest Host (64:49)

Or do they?

Trisha (64:50)

That's true. Well, with the restraining order, you're so like, you. If you both want to be left alone, you don't want to be harassed or talked to or talked about.

Guest Host (64:58)

Right.

Trisha (64:58)

Why not Just agree and don't read.

Moses (65:01)

Those comments and don't engage.

Guest Host (65:03)

Don't make a music video about the person that you think you're sucking. You kind of just pokes it a little more. You know what we didn't talk about last time? I would. I feel like you would have seen this, because this is still all over my Twitter. It was kind of sad. It's like, kind of whatever. I know. Like, Nick Vile, Natalie Joy. Did you see them interviewing the Southern Charm? You haven't seen this?

Trisha (65:23)

No, I am. Nick Vile is far from my.

Guest Host (65:26)

It's all over Twitter now.

Trisha (65:29)

Yeah, I never saw this one was, like, big.

Guest Host (65:32)

They were interviewing one of the guys from Southern Charm, which I think is like a dating show, I think. I don't know. Anyways, they basically, like, interviewing him, and they were asking him a question, and then she. Natalie just totally, like, changes the conversation. I was like, so his sister passed away when he was, like, a child or something, and she. It was while they were hiking, and she basically was just like, so what's up with the cliff? Like, like, she fell off a cliff, basically. Were you there? Like. Like, it was. So you haven't seen this clip? It is vile. It's like. It really is so wild. And he even said. He goes, oh, this is like. And you can tell he's like. His leg is, like, shaking. Like, it's like. It's like he's keeping composure, but he's just like, of course. Nick makes it about himself. Nick is like. She asks him a question, and then Nick just Jumps in and it's just like, well, because she's asked something like, how does that like, change your life? And Nick's like, well, I think those moments are what shapes us. I'm like, like, these people, you have to watch the clip. It's so insane. It's like all over my thing. I was like, I think some podcasts just need no guests. I think some people just need to not have guests and just talk about themselves. You know, just talk about their own self absorbed lives on planes. Terrorizing people. Like, I think that's what they need because this, this one was crazy. And now people are calling for an apology to, like, apologize to him. Because they're like asking him like, gruesome details. Like if someone, some. Someone passed away, right? You don't be like, like, well, how. How did it happen? How did it affect you? Were you there? Did you see this cliff? Like, yeah. You see it? Were you there when she fell?

Trisha (67:01)

Yeah.

Guest Host (67:02)

You were? Yeah.

Trisha (67:03)

Where? What was this cliff?

Guest Host (67:06)

Where?

Trisha (67:06)

Like, that is crazy.

Guest Host (67:08)

Crazy. Like so, so insane. So insensitive. And they would not stop. Like, the question is going. And then like making it about yourself. Like, Like, I feel like I can be like, self absorbed and stuff. Like when you make something like that, like, about yourself, especially when they're like right there and you're like, damn, I can't even imagine, like, I'm a dad. Like, I'm a new dad. I couldn't imagine that's my kid. Like, never had to be through something like that. It's like, what the. Like, it's so.

Moses (67:34)

He's talking about his hardship watching TV while this person saw siblings.

Guest Host (67:38)

He's like, I can't even watch stuff about kids hurting themselves. Well, what do you mean? This person just like lived it and saw it and traumatic. At seven, like, it's. And then obviously, like him shaking. It was. I have to just believe they're the ultimate rage baiters. Like, above Matt and Abby. Like, I have to believe that, which is like, so crazy because I really do feel like once people have like, kids, they do, like, change. They don't want to be those rage baiters anymore. But it's just like my sympathy and my empathy for them just goes so down because I'm just like, what is. Okay? It's like the age gap. Okay. And then we don't know her age and everything. But then it's like having guests come on and like, it was so wild. It was so wild. It's all over. It was all over my for you page and I was just like, how is this, how is this going? Not only is it going, I think it's sold for like $30 million of iophiles podcast. Brighton. I text you that it was like acquired or something for that much. And I'm just like the worst podcast, the worst interviewers, like kind of the worst people from what we see. Maybe they're rage baiting, maybe they're worse presenting. But like, I mean, I don't think.

Moses (68:34)

I think this is them trying to be like, like journalists. Like, let's, let's get, you know, something very emotional and let's get something very.

Guest Host (68:42)

Deep going on the wrong, wrong, wrong.

Moses (68:44)

But I'm like, but you don't ask about the cliff. You know, it's like asking somebody, so.

Guest Host (68:48)

What, what's up with the cliff?

Moses (68:50)

I mean, it's because you didn't ask him, like, was it your fault? Did you? Yeah, like you, could you stop it? Could you do something? No.

Guest Host (68:55)

There is like detail about it. I don't know if it was from that interview or somewhere else, but there is like detail. And it's like so crazy to ask anybody that, like without them just talking about it. Most people don't want to talk about in detail what happened.

Trisha (69:05)

Yeah, I, that's my theory too though. I think that like, I, like, I, I don't know. In this case it's like rage baiting. I, My theory is because, like, it's extreme to related to like the brook with like the Tana getting the Shutterstock book clip. But I think ideologically similar where whoever is producing it and like prepping them, like kind of how we do it on a sinister scale, like goes into it like, okay, this is going to be the title. So like make sure this is the talking point because this will get pickup or whatever. So they're kind of going for. So they're being prepped about this stuff by whoever's producing it, in my opinion. And then they go into it knowing, because it was such a harsh transition from Natalie to go from what they were talking about to like, so your sister. So I think that she knew she had to get to that talking point because that was going to be included in like the press release, whatever, because they, they have a publicist that sends out, you know, sound bites and quotes from the show to get pick up by different websites and magazines. So in my opinion, I feel like that was just one of the things that they knew they wanted a bite about to do a press release for, but just shows that they aren't good interviewers because they can't read the room or can't empathize. And also, like, time and place, really. The ultimate quote. Yeah, so that's my theory. I think they're just. I think they just are crappy interviewers and not incentive. They're being proud. They are. They're inset. Like, not rage beating but. Or not trying to rage bait, but baiting rage. Because they are bad, if that makes sense. Yeah.

Guest Host (70:40)

They just lack social skills. Yeah, right. Maybe that's it. Because, like, how can you.

Trisha (70:47)

I don't know.

Guest Host (70:47)

Like, to me, that's like such. I don't know. I just feel like anybody like you, anybody. Like, if someone. If something happened and someone's like, this passed away, my first inclination isn't like, how did it happen? Like, you know, I guess, like, you maybe would think that. I don't know. I suppose, but, like, I'm not like, just like, in someone's face.

Trisha (71:03)

I don't know much about them. From the pattern of things I've seen is that, like, everything in their head, the whole world kind of revolves around them. Because every story they tell, it's like everyone else should be bending to, like, what works best for them. So I. I think that's why Nick was like, yeah, like, I'm a new dad and because that's the only way he can, like, process anything is through himself. Like, I just think he's very, like, conceited in my opinion. Narcissistic in my opinion. Diabolical and sinister, in my opinion. So that's why.

Guest Host (71:34)

Yeah. I don't know if they're gonna. Not journalists. Right. They have no degree in journalism.

Trisha (71:39)

I don't think so. No.

Guest Host (71:41)

Right. Well, maybe they should just leave it at their age gap. Relationship show. I think that's. It just made me, like, upset. Like, God, it just makes me so upset for, like, the world we live in. Like, what are people just. I don't know. Maybe I need to stop watching clips of them when they pop up on my thing. Oh, what?

Trisha (72:02)

TMZ says she dropped out of school at 15 to become a model. So Natalie. So. Because I was like, oh, maybe she does have a journalism degree.

Moses (72:10)

But.

Guest Host (72:11)

Okay, well, you know, I wanted to drop out of school too. I'm not gonna judge on that.

Trisha (72:15)

It's more so. Yeah. Like, the journalism of it all. Like, that's what I'm saying.

Guest Host (72:19)

But also him meeting her at around 19, 20, around. You know what I mean? Like. Okay. Like, that has a lot to do. Okay, well.

Trisha (72:30)

Very weird.

Guest Host (72:30)

Yeah. I. I sympathize. With her a little bit, Nick. I just, you know, what are you doing? But leave it at that, I guess. That's. That's wild. You know who was really good at interview of holding space for this kind of conversation or like, a serious conversation was ET who was the one that was doing the Golden Globe interview?

Trisha (72:54)

There was a couple. It was a guy, Kevin Frazier Ball.

Guest Host (72:58)

Oh, yes.

Moses (72:58)

Yes.

Guest Host (73:00)

Yeah, yeah. He did so good. Like, I, you know, like, obviously a lot of the celebrities at the Golden Globes, like, wanted to talk about, like, social issues that are happening in our world. And that's like. Which is, like, great. But, like, I always think with, like, interviewers, like, sometimes, like, look, I'm not an interview. I did one carpet. But, like, I would imagine it would be hard, like, if you're like, are you having fun in there tonight? And they're like, yeah, it's fun, but also. And then they go into, like, a serious, you know, Mark Ruffalo did that. And, like, was his name Kevin?

Trisha (73:26)

Yes.

Guest Host (73:27)

Kevin was so good. He was like. He did follow up questions. Like, he probably wasn't prepared in his head for that. And he did those follow up questions. That was amazing. I was like, that was really, really good. Me, I do have to be better with that when someone tells me, like, sensitive stuff, like, you know, I need to be better sometimes. When I did do a red carpet interview and someone gave us a really, like, sentimental, like, answer, and I just kept going. And then my producer's like, oh, that would have been a good one to end on. You know, it was. I was like, okay. You know, so I'm just saying have a little. I can kind of see where Dally Joy is, but I want to be more like a Kevin.

Trisha (73:58)

Yeah. Yeah. And I think, again, it kind of shows the difference because he's been doing interviews for, God, maybe, like, 20 years. Like, maybe 20 or more.

Guest Host (74:08)

Really.

Trisha (74:08)

He's been like. He started. He's a host now. He does entertainment news, but he started in sports, and he's covered, like, serious news, like, real world news. And he does entertainment now, but he's been covering it for so long, so it kind of just shows, like, someone who's really been. Yeah. Who's put in the work and, like, really, like, studied it, basically. Yeah.

Guest Host (74:30)

I think. And has someone who did not go to college either. I do think it does. Maybe where that journalism degree may come in handy when it comes to more, like, elevated interviews to do for. Because, like, even though, like, gold Golden Globes is just that, like, it does get like political where I do feel like someone who maybe has like a degree in how to navigate a conversation may be better equipped than someone like me or Natalie Joy, you know what I mean? Because it does show also sensitivity to it too. You know what I mean?

Trisha (74:57)

And obviously there are like moment like, I think an influencer did great at the Golden Globes. Was Mary Beth from.

Guest Host (75:04)

She an influencer?

Trisha (75:05)

Comedian influencer. She has her podcast with Benny Benito. Well, she's on overcompensating and she's also on overcompensation.

Guest Host (75:13)

I didn't know she was.

Trisha (75:13)

Yeah, she. I get. I see my FYP is a lot of their clips actually. They're so funny.

Guest Host (75:18)

No, I love. I love her. I thought they were like co stars. I didn't know.

Trisha (75:20)

Yeah, she does like comedy. She does tick tock. She has her podcast and also acts obviously in the overcome.

Guest Host (75:26)

She's. But amazing. No, she was amazing. Like I thought. I just thought she was actress, so that made sense. Yeah, she'd be so good.

Trisha (75:30)

So I think she did like such a great job. Obviously, like. Like the point of those interviews was to be like, you know, funny, a little trolley, but in like the cute way, you know, like very.

Guest Host (75:40)

I saw someone make the comparison. Like Joan Rivers. Yeah, like very that. Which Joan Rivers could be like a little mean, but like weird to get away with it.

Trisha (75:46)

Yeah.

Guest Host (75:47)

Which I think like. Ah. But even that takes so much tact. And she has it. Yeah, Marybeth is her name. She definitely has it. But it's so hard. Like there are some people who are just charming and just can get away with saying anything and then there's just like the majority of people can't. You know what I mean? But I feel like she can because also it's like the way you say it, the intention behind it.

Trisha (76:02)

Yeah.

Guest Host (76:03)

Who you are as a person, your past, all that stuff like that, like attributes to.

Trisha (76:06)

Because if you read like one of her questions was like, there's a lot of women who had incredible performances here tonight. Who's one woman here who annoys you? And like that question on paper, like, would be like so offensive. But the way that she did it was very like comedic and charming and disarming.

Guest Host (76:22)

It was a great year for women film. Are there any actresses nominated tonight that you think are kind of annoying? Ooh, wow, that's rough. No, I can't. I honestly, I wish there was one that just came straight to my mind that I could go for, but I just don't have one. You don't, do you? I do, but it's not about me tonight. Yeah, that would be crazy. Like, who's the tonight? Like, that's like, oh, my God. Okay. Troll. But yeah, I think it. That definitely takes.

Trisha (76:44)

Well, she's like.

Guest Host (76:45)

You said comedian.

Trisha (76:46)

Yeah. So that also helps.

Guest Host (76:47)

Yeah.

Trisha (76:48)

But then, yeah, for like, there's also. I don't know. Again, it comes to like, time and place, I think, in general. Yeah, it shows. And also with Golden Globes, there's like the list of people that you have to be prepared to talk to. It's like 50 plus celebrities. It's so much work. There was one like, et tick tock, where like, Kevin was interviewing IO a. Debris and was like, oh, you just came back from Africa. She's like, yeah, I was just in Nigeria. And then the comments were like, oh, my God, how could he say Nigeria? Don't just say Africa, like, because Africa's. I'm like, he probably didn't remember the exact country she went to or.

Guest Host (77:24)

You don't want to get it wrong.

Trisha (77:24)

Just in case.

Guest Host (77:26)

Yeah.

Trisha (77:27)

Like, if you didn't know which country in Europe someone went to, but you know they went on like a Euro trip, you'd probably just say you just came back from Europe. Yeah, it was so, like.

Guest Host (77:35)

Like one of like you said 50 is crazy.

Trisha (77:38)

Like over 50, for sure. It's like. And it's such a long day. Like, literally. I mean, just me went from like 1 to 11. But, like, if you're on the carpet, that's like 10am to like midnight, basically. And like, people just get so want to be so mad at interviews. Some. Some of them, yes. It's deserved, but damn, Sometimes, like, you got to let some stuff go like, ye.

Guest Host (77:59)

Like that kind of. I know. I remember when we did go back away, but they. We had. They gave us. Remember, he prepped me with like, six main people. But, like, they really drill. I don't know how it is for, like, reporters that drew all the time, but, like, I had to, like, memorize it. He had to go over the same questions over and over. So he's like, all right, I'm coming to you now. I'm John. I'm too. And so I just had to, like, have it over and over. And they, like, prep you with a lot of the questions because obviously they're like, access, and they want to, like, you know, whatever, have, like, good questions. But it is. It is. It's a lot of pressure. It's a lot of. And then. Yeah, you're not gonna get everyone right. Like, oh, my Gosh. Like, and he. Get out. He got it right. Song. He said, it's a country that wasn't like, real people have to hate. Like you said, interviews especially. I think it's just. It's too high pressure.

Trisha (78:38)

Yeah. And it's weird. The.

Moses (78:40)

The.

Trisha (78:41)

I don't know if it's just because of Tick tock. Because also it reminds me of, like, Danny Directo interviewing McKenna Grace about, like, the fan edits. And everyone was so mad at him.

Guest Host (78:48)

Yeah.

Trisha (78:48)

Like, influencers shouldn't be doing carp. And it's someone who's been working for, like, 20 years.

Guest Host (78:52)

That's, like, their job. They're not an influencer. Yeah.

Trisha (78:54)

People want to get so mad at interviewers these days. And I do get it, because there are some interviewers that are just, like, insensitive. Like, I think Variety. There's like, the one person at Variety who does, like, all the interviews, Mark Malkin. And he interviewed, like, one of the Heated Rivalry guys with an actress from Abbott elementary because they promote. They did the Screen Actors Guild slash Actor Awards. They presented it. So she. He asked Janelle James, what did you. What do you think about, like, you're with Connor from Heated Rivalry right now, and you've probably seen him, like, completely naked or whatever. She's like, Connor now. When you think about those scenes and.

Guest Host (79:30)

Heated rivalry, I'm thinking about his excellent.

Trisha (79:34)

Russian accent that he does. I'm thinking about his characterization.

Guest Host (79:37)

I'm thinking that he is adorable and.

Trisha (79:39)

He looks like a leading man. And I'm excited to see where he goes next. I just think he's a great actor who did a great Russian accent on the show. And it was like, see, like, that's an inappropriate thing where I get why people were upset. Obviously.

Guest Host (79:51)

Yeah.

Trisha (79:51)

But not everything you have to be is rage bait. Not everything. Gotta get mad.

Guest Host (79:55)

And then it's like when you get mad at everyone, like, for every little thing, the ones that do matter like that, like, get lost in the sauce. Like, we just want to be mad about everything. So then it's like, the ones that are important get lost.

Trisha (80:05)

Yeah.

Guest Host (80:06)

Theater rivalry ones are crazy. People are a little too.

Trisha (80:09)

Yeah. There's not a lot of decorum. All because they're naked and they're just sex and people. I mean, that happens a lot with. With any, like, sexy thing I get. I feel like 50 shades of gray went through that a lot too. Like, obviously, yes, sex is a part of the show or the movie or whatever, but there's a lot more to it. You know, it's not just in the sex, is in it to like propel the story. It's not the story, you know, like there's.

Guest Host (80:34)

Yeah, I guess with the heat arrival, there's so much that people just feel freely to talk about it.

Trisha (80:38)

And they're men too.

Guest Host (80:39)

They don't really talk about that in like Bridgerton. Like they never are like focused on the sex. Even though it's a heavy sex show.

Trisha (80:44)

Yeah. Or at least because I feel like with Bridgerton too, especially in the beginning, it got a lot like that's first season where it was kind of shocking to see just like a lot of sex. But then I think the conversation for that came more about like, oh, the intimacy court. How do you do it? Blah, blah, blah.

Guest Host (80:59)

Right. And it's like one thing, I guess if like the stars talk about it because I think Nicola and Luke were very much like, we broke all the furniture and it's like, okay, if it comes from the stars, it's different. Like if the heat arrival people were like, we just couldn't stop humping each other. That is like, okay, they want to talk about it. But like interviewers being like that is like annoying. Especially when you're like presenting like nominees. You're like, I don't know, I don't really need to be reminded that we're just horny toes out here.

Trisha (81:23)

Yeah. So again, it's just like a time and place pick and choose. Also, like, I kept thinking about Denny director and the viral McKenna Grace thing because then McKenna Grace, like, yeah, now studios want me to like do fan edits for like my movies or whatever. I'm like, see, like, like obviously that was such a non fact. Like that wasn't like an offensive thing at all. Like it was cutesy because now like she's getting jobs because of how viral that was. Like, yeah, it annoys me to know. And people like just ask him about acting in the movie or whatever. Girl, if we just asked how was it working in five Nights at Freddy too, no one would care. You gotta do a little creativity. It's like you interviewing Megan the doll and asking about fnaf. Like we had to have that viral moment, you know, get some traction, you know.

Guest Host (82:05)

True.

Trisha (82:05)

As long as it's like tactful and not like degradings. It's a balance, but it can be done.

Guest Host (82:11)

Yeah, I, I got some questions edited out from Megan. They're like, no, I can't ask that one. Something about a Tesla robot. And they were like, no, not that one was great.

Trisha (82:18)

It's too personal.

Guest Host (82:19)

Yeah, like, no, too controversial. I was like, okay, Megan the Robot. That was a good one. We need to get another one of those. It's fnaf out.

Trisha (82:27)

It's out on like digital now.

Guest Host (82:28)

Oh, yeah, the second one.

Trisha (82:30)

Uhuh.

Guest Host (82:31)

I don't know.

Trisha (82:32)

Yup. You okay? Yeah. Give it. Give it a little watch. I enjoyed it for what it was. Let's say that.

Guest Host (82:38)

Yeah, I feel like that's. That's the vibe of that movie. Yeah, we want to see what's the. What's the next one coming out we wanted to see in theaters? Oh, Wuthering Heights.

Trisha (82:48)

That doesn't come out to what, Valentine's Day, I guess. Yeah.

Guest Host (82:52)

Okay. Dang. I really want to go to a movie. I really want to see like a movie in theater.

Trisha (82:56)

But Avatar, Marty Supreme.

Guest Host (83:03)

No, no, I mean, love, but no, I don't think so. When's the next award show? Tonight or Sunday?

Trisha (83:12)

When is the next. Next one. The next event. Super bowl is next and then Grand. It's really soon. It is.

Moses (83:22)

It was March or something.

Guest Host (83:24)

March?

Moses (83:25)

No, I think just my.

Trisha (83:27)

Oh, wait, no, I got it mixed up. So Next is Grammys February 1st, then the Super Bowl's February 8th next week. Oh, and then the actor awards are March 1st, and then the Oscars are March 15th. So four events.

Guest Host (83:39)

Well, March 26th is I heart Awards.

Trisha (83:43)

I should add that to the calendar. I don't know why that's not on here.

Guest Host (83:45)

That needs to be covered. Yes, I will be nominated for favorite Broadway debut. And vote for me.

Moses (83:54)

Have you voted today?

Guest Host (83:55)

Have you voted?

Moses (83:56)

Yes, I did.

Guest Host (83:57)

Moses votes every day. He posts every day for me. He's really campaigning. If I got up there and won and I forgot to thank Moses, it'd be the worst day. I tell him that all the time too. I'm like, I'm really in my head planning a speech. And I can't forget to thank you because people forget to thank their spouses all the time. But not only are you my spouse, you're also my campaign manager.

Trisha (84:13)

So I need you to have the little oh my God, I'm shaking for me. And then you pull it out for sure.

Guest Host (84:17)

I have a speech. Yeah.

Trisha (84:19)

You know what you should really do actually, would be high camp. Dare I say maybe even two Camp would be like the. The Noah Centine acceptance speech. Have you seen that?

Guest Host (84:29)

What is that?

Trisha (84:29)

It was from a while ago. It was from the MTV Movie Awards. But again, it's. I see it in the montages of like, awkward moments or whatever.

Guest Host (84:35)

Oh, what did he say?

Trisha (84:36)

Oh, My God. Let me. I need the exact quote because it is kind of iconic.

Guest Host (84:39)

Okay, let me see. I never seen this. I guess I'm funny.

Trisha (84:43)

Oh, I didn't know that.

Guest Host (84:46)

Oh, no.

Moses (84:47)

Thank you.

Trisha (84:48)

This never gets easier. Anyone watching at home, it's always so like nerve wracking.

Guest Host (84:52)

You're like, oh my God, people and I gotta talk and I gotta say things. Cole killed it. What?

Trisha (85:01)

Silent. Thank you, Netflix.

Guest Host (85:02)

Thank you, Matt Cacklin. Thank you, Robin Marshall. Thank you, Ace Awesomeness. Thank you, Laura Murano, Cammy, Odysseus, Cash Cross, everyone. You guys killed it and I couldn't.

Trisha (85:16)

Done it without you. I just.

Guest Host (85:20)

I just want to say thank you everyone at home. You are the reason I'm on this stage.

Trisha (85:24)

You are the reason I get this is so you passionate about.

Guest Host (85:29)

You are the reason I have a.

Trisha (85:31)

Platform that I can help hopefully make.

Guest Host (85:33)

The world a bit of a better place.

Trisha (85:37)

And before I go, I just want to say it matters not. Not what you've done, but what you do with what you've done for others.

Guest Host (85:45)

Thank you. I love it.

Trisha (85:46)

That is so.

Guest Host (85:48)

Every time I get one minor accomplishment. Thank you, guys. Because of you, I love the editing.

Moses (85:54)

Yeah.

Trisha (85:54)

It's not what you've done, but what you do with what you've done that matters. Honestly, when you think about it. Yeah.

Guest Host (86:02)

Hey, Shakespeare. That was good. Woozy. What's he from? Why was he winning? He's giving like Noah Becker or something. Is he like a tick tocker?

Trisha (86:13)

No, he was in.

Guest Host (86:17)

You don't even know.

Trisha (86:18)

No, I do, but I was trying to see what he won for. He was from to all the Boys I Loved before, which was the. You know, the Summer I Turn Pretty. You remember that show? The one I just. Okay. It's another book series from the same author. So it was like a trilogy of Netflix movies.

Guest Host (86:35)

That author's killing it. She must be making money.

Trisha (86:37)

I know, because everything that she wrote is now something. But this in particular was for a movie called the Perfect Date, which I'm assuming was also on Netflix. I don't think I saw that one, but yeah, that one wasn't a book. What was the award show People's Choice Awards on?

Guest Host (86:51)

What is that supposed to be? That little. What is it like a baton? What is that? That's true.

Trisha (86:55)

What it. Yeah. What the hell is that trophy supposed to be? That's a good question.

Guest Host (87:00)

It's like a pepper grinder.

Trisha (87:01)

Yeah. That is the oddest Shape Award. It's like. It's just like a theory. No, kind of is giving Dildo A little bit.

Guest Host (87:11)

Yeah. Maybe that's what it is.

Trisha (87:12)

Maybe.

Guest Host (87:13)

Sponsored by Adam and Eve. Was that fan voted, too? Yeah, that's gonna be me. When I. It's because of you guys at home, I realize I am not anywhere close to the talent of anyone else in this category, but I have a lot of fans that vote a lot. Maybe it's my husband voting every day.

Trisha (87:28)

It would suck if yours is given, like, in the pre telecast, like, on the carpet. You know how they'd be doing that?

Guest Host (87:32)

Well, it's definitely not in the category with, like, Ariana Grande right behind me.

Moses (87:42)

If you win, I think they'll bump it up. Okay.

Guest Host (87:45)

My number one fan over here who's just like, you saved Broadway actually, with your debut.

Trisha (87:50)

You.

Guest Host (87:51)

No, definitely. It's definitely one that they'll give you on the red carpet.

Moses (87:54)

Like, here you go.

Guest Host (87:54)

But I'll take it. I will take it. Before, after, preemptive, whenever. I love that. I love him. No, centenario. I want to be. Did I tell you? I didn't even tell you because we booked. We booked the WB tour, and I. I just sent an email to, like, the general email that's on the website. I don't know anybody. I had no connections, but I sent a general email because for our Patreons out there, our patrons, we've been talking about going on the WB tour for so long, which I'm super excited about. I'm even getting more excited because someone told me there's, like, essential perk in there. Even though I don't like friends, I still like the idea that you can get coffee. Essential perk they have. Is it Luke's from Gilmore Girls? They have, like a Luke's thing. There's, like, real interactive things you can get. So I got a private tour, which I'm gonna say, and anyone can do this. I just emailed. I was like, hey, can I get a private tour? And then I said, I'm with the Dust Trish podcast. And I also recently filmed Euphoria on youn Lot. And they wrote.

Trisha (88:46)

They threw everything out.

Guest Host (88:48)

They got back and they said, we'll give you the employee discount. So I got a really good deal on this tour because I was like.

Moses (88:56)

Wow, we got a coupon.

Guest Host (88:59)

That was great.

Trisha (89:00)

Yes. Once shot in an episode of Modern Family. One was on the Ellen DeGeneres show, which does film on the WB lot.

Guest Host (89:08)

Right. I actually was. I filmed Conan on the WB lot. Oh, my God, you're right. I actually filmed so much. I have Aquaman, Elvis and Barbie Are my kids. I was in Beetlejuice on Broadway, which is wb.

Trisha (89:21)

Yeah. You basically are a WB employee at this point.

Guest Host (89:23)

I should have put all that in there. Should've been like Beetlejuice. But it worked. I got a discount, and I'm so excited. So we have a VIP tour coming up in a couple weeks. Did you get the memo in the group chat?

Moses (89:34)

I saw that.

Guest Host (89:35)

I haven't even told him yet. I'm just like, I asked you first. Cause I know your work schedule. I guess I should have asked Jimmy. I told Jimmy and he said, okay, great. But I probably should ask him. Him. Me. Just thinking he's always just home. That's what people think about me too. I feel like when you, like, work for yourself, people just assume you're just always available, but should probably ask because you're not always available. In fact, I get very busy.

Trisha (89:54)

Well, Wednesdays are his just Trish days, so.

Guest Host (89:57)

Okay. But. So I figured I was gonna. I thought maybe go there and then do the podcast. We should. The podcast first, then go there, then we get off. It's like double, double duty. I'm very excited. I don't know what it entails. Like, do we get a little trolley? Do we get a little golf cart?

Trisha (90:08)

I know, I've never done it.

Guest Host (90:10)

Me neither. I'm very. I'm very excited. Yeah, I can't wait for that. I. I love it. And if it does, if I'll go as well. Maybe we'll do a little Universal. I wonder if Universal give me a discount. I've been shooting there, too.

Trisha (90:19)

I was also a former employee. I don't know former accounts.

Guest Host (90:23)

But yeah, for sure. And you were, like, there all the time. I was there, like, one day I was like. That definitely counts. For sure. Yeah. Did you ever see, like, this is so not Hot Topic, but the, like, old. It's not even that old. It's like 2012. Did you go on the tour? Lot, like, studio tour back then. I forgot about all these, like, it unlocked memories. But like, when King Kong before it burned down, when it was like the giant gorilla. Do you remember that?

Trisha (90:47)

I think so.

Guest Host (90:48)

It was like. Because now it's just the screen. But it used to be like an actual, like, animatronic. And you would go through. Do you remember it? And like, shuck the tram.

Trisha (90:58)

Yes. Yes, that.

Guest Host (91:00)

And do you remember the parting of the sea?

Trisha (91:01)

Yes, I do remember that.

Guest Host (91:03)

They don't do that anymore.

Trisha (91:04)

They don't even do the partying of the sea.

Guest Host (91:05)

No. And I remember they'd be like, oh, they part that sea and you'd go down and the water would go up. Yeah, they don't do that. They don't do the bridge. Remember the bridge?

Trisha (91:13)

Yes. Where it shook.

Guest Host (91:14)

Yes, yes. I was like, what do they do anymore on that tour?

Trisha (91:17)

I don't know. Do they still have the Fast and Furious? That was kind of newish, I guess, but when they had the party or something in there, that's the worst.

Guest Host (91:25)

And you see all the extras being like, yeah, all right, guys, ready to race? I don't like that one either. I love Universal, but I think that Trim tour needs go back to the basics. They saw the Jaws. That's cool. They do have a Fast and Furious ride that they're testing. Have you seen it tested there? Like circling around the. Oh, we talked about this.

Trisha (91:44)

Yeah.

Guest Host (91:44)

Anyways, I'm a fan of Universal too, but we're doing Warner Brothers, I guess.

Trisha (91:49)

Another theme park is in the news. Disneyland is in some. Oh, no, they messed up because. Do you. Have you seen the viral Evil Queen? That's kind of like all over Tick Tock.

Guest Host (91:58)

Yes, yes.

Trisha (91:59)

She confirms that she was. Was let go after eight years working at the park. Isn't that crazy?

Guest Host (92:05)

Wait, why did they get the rid of the character or just her?

Trisha (92:07)

I think her. So she went viral back in 2019 because of a she. An encounter with a guest that they posted on social media. And then ever since then, people will go to Disneyland, like, look for her and like, post their interactions with her. But in October 2025, there was rumors that she no longer worked at the park work. And then recently she just confirmed that she was let go after eight years. She. Her name is Sabrina Von B. She posted a video on Tick Tock revealing that she was the actress behind the Evil Queen. And she spoke to people about no longer working for Disney. And she said that she had like a more comical spin on the character because she wanted to make people smile while also being a villain. And she said that. Get the exact quote with Disney. It's a bit scary because they want to protect the magic. And in the comments, people were trying to get my identity. I never came out publicly and said like, this is me or anything until they ultimately, ultimately let me go. That's when I spoke out publicly on it. So basically I. They let her go because essentially she was too good, basically. Right. She's too good. Too iconic.

Guest Host (93:23)

Oh, I guess. Was she posting as her herself?

Trisha (93:27)

No, it was just other people, like she was going viral, but it's because other people were posting her, like, she's just so good that people were posting her and everyone was eating it up.

Guest Host (93:36)

What was the official. Did they give an official reason?

Trisha (93:39)

She's giving the official reason by basically saying that, like, they didn't like that. The. How popular that she was getting online because they said it was taking away from the magic.

Guest Host (93:50)

But you think that could be, like, wrong for determination? Like, that's not my fault. I'm not. I'm not posting it like other people think, Right?

Trisha (93:55)

Yeah.

Guest Host (93:55)

Like, don't you want me to. To be good?

Trisha (93:57)

Yeah. Because basically she's just like her portrayal, I guess, of the Evil Queen. Because obviously it's. I get the politics of Disneyland, like, care, like actors or what that are, you know, portraying characters. Like, they are supposed to be just the character, like, the representation of the character.

Guest Host (94:13)

Yeah.

Trisha (94:13)

So I guess people were, like, looking specifically for that actress to be the Evil Queen, so she just became like, the Evil Queen, like, the most popular actor behind it. So they got rid of her, which is like, what.

Guest Host (94:26)

How did you do that? Wrongful termination. You can't get fired for that. That.

Trisha (94:33)

I wonder if it's almost like an more of a. Because obviously, I don't know, like, the contracts and stuff, but is it considered more of, like, an acting job or something where it's like, obviously, like, if you're an actor, it's easier to get fired for, like, oh, we don't want to have this character anymore or something, you know? I don't know if that's true.

Guest Host (94:49)

That's true. I had heard too, from one of the character actors that, like, like, if you get too big for the costume, they let you go. Like, they don't let you size up. Basically, like, you have to fit the costume. That's what I had heard.

Trisha (94:58)

That's crazy.

Guest Host (94:58)

Yeah. And you have to keep, like, certain nails. And so I guess Disney is strict. I used to work at Disney Soda Fountain, which is like, not Disney, but it's like, okay, Nick, bio.

Trisha (95:08)

I relate to you, girl, because I worked at the Disney Soda Fountain.

Guest Host (95:12)

Well, I'm just saying they were strict. If you had, like. I think it was like, if you could have, like, blue nail polish or something and like, they would write you up, you would get like a. So I wonder if they would, like, give her. But she did nothing wrong. I guess that's like, the whole thing. But I guess my point is, like, they're kind of like, they are strict, I suppose. But, like, then you should have a no filming policy so people can't film the Interactions with the characters. But that is wild.

Trisha (95:34)

Yeah.

Guest Host (95:34)

That is crazy.

Trisha (95:35)

Why is it her fault that she's, like, eating the roll up? Like.

Guest Host (95:38)

Yeah. And the same could be said about the Gaston and the Peter Pan down in Disney World.

Trisha (95:42)

Yeah.

Guest Host (95:43)

I see them all the time and people search for them. So why are they not getting it?

Trisha (95:48)

The Peter Pan. There was a Peter Pan, like, back in the Tumblr days where everyone was obsessed with this one Peter Pan. Like, he was like, the heartthrob of Disney.

Guest Host (95:55)

I think he's still there.

Trisha (95:56)

Really?

Guest Host (95:57)

Clips. I see. I all the time see people loving him and he, like, skips away from people and stuff. I like him. Yeah. But, like, definitely draws attention. Definitely. You know, there's also a guest on too, that people love and women sexually harass him. And he.

Trisha (96:12)

I remember that too. Yeah.

Guest Host (96:13)

And he's like. Like, stop. Like, they were trying. They were, like, touching his body and stuff, which is crazy. Like, we always talk about, like, the patriarchy and the misogyny of it all. But, like, it does go the other way too, where I feel like when men get, like, sexually harassed, it's, like, looked at, even, like, heated rivalry, boys, all of it. It's very much like. Yeah, you wouldn't be asking that. It's kind of what, like, Jason Isaacs thought he was giving when he's talking about White Lotus and his penis. Like, he was. He was on the right track until he said something. What was he talking about? Someone else that never gets asked questions about their body. Do you remember? He's like, well, she doesn't get asked since I washy. She does. I forgot what it was. But he was on the right track, but just wrong messaging. So I feel like you never talk about that enough, but sounds slam. Sounds like not fair. She. So she was talking on Twitter or Tick Tock.

Trisha (96:56)

She started posting on Tick Tock in October, which made people think that she was let go. But she opened up about it for the first time in this People magazine interview.

Guest Host (97:06)

Did she say I was the evil Queen?

Trisha (97:08)

Yes.

Guest Host (97:08)

Because I also heard this is, like, all conspiracy too, on Disney. Tick Tock. But I also heard you're, like, legally not allowed to say you're that character you're supposed to say you're friends with.

Trisha (97:16)

Oh, interesting.

Guest Host (97:17)

But I don't know. That could be just made up. Someone's like, you have to say. Because I watched, like, people who used to be Tinkerbell. I mean, like, I was once friends with Ariel. I was once friends with Tinkerbell. But it's like they were playing the character.

Trisha (97:26)

Oh, I see.

Guest Host (97:28)

So maybe that's their loophole to be like. Actually you're not allowed to say that you were the Evil Queen. I don't know. I have no idea.

Trisha (97:33)

I hope she gets more work because obviously she's a good actress. I think even Pedro Pascal like commented and like saying how much he loves her because she literally was so. I mean, six years. Six, seven years of going viral. Six, seven. I know as soon as I said it.

Guest Host (97:48)

The fingers on the pulse with Pedro Pascal. He knows what's up. Yeah.

Trisha (97:52)

It's very online.

Guest Host (97:53)

You know what they should do for the sequel or they should remake Snow White again.

Trisha (97:57)

And then she would actually actually eat it up if they ever actually.

Guest Host (98:00)

Or replace CGI over just rep Gadot's performance.

Trisha (98:05)

That kind of tea. Actually, like imagine if they went back and re edited the movie but just put her in.

Guest Host (98:09)

I think that's so easy to do.

Trisha (98:11)

Wow.

Guest Host (98:11)

She probably eat so hard.

Trisha (98:13)

Uhhuh. That's a good idea actually.

Guest Host (98:16)

That's where it's at.

Trisha (98:17)

Yeah.

Guest Host (98:19)

Did we talk about the tangle casting? We did.

Trisha (98:21)

I think we. Not the confirmation we the speculative or the. The people. Actors and actresses who are reading for it. But I don't think we ever talked about it once it became official.

Guest Host (98:32)

I think I like Milo Manheim. I watched him singing. Did you ever watch Journey to Bethlehem?

Moses (98:35)

No.

Guest Host (98:36)

It's kind of good. He kind of ate.

Trisha (98:39)

Do you remember?

Guest Host (98:39)

I was obsessed with that. You remember?

Moses (98:41)

Yep.

Guest Host (98:41)

I loved Journey to Bethlehem when it came out. I did not realize that was him for some reason. I thought they were. Everyone that was living in Bethlehem was performing that, like I did not know that they were here in America. He was so good. I think he played like Joseph or something. He really ate the role.

Trisha (98:55)

I've only seen him in the Sabrina Carpenter video. I know Garrett Watts has been campaigning from Milo Manham to be Flynn Rider for like months.

Guest Host (99:05)

Really?

Trisha (99:05)

It would show up in my Twitter. Like he was really going hard for Milo to be cast. Yeah. And Garrett has the in at Disney because he has like work. I mean he got to stay overnight at the Haunted Mansion, which. Who gets to do that? Garrett Wall? Lots. He has the friends. Rachel Zegler. He went to the Disney lot to do events with Rachel during Snow White. So I think Garrett is in. Yeah. He made that casting.

Guest Host (99:28)

Maybe he was the one that got Shane in trouble for lifting up that brick. Maybe he's like go. He said he's like, here, look at this. And like we listened to Garrett Watts.

Trisha (99:44)

I love that conspiracy theory. I'm gonna run with it. Yeah, that makes sense.

Guest Host (99:48)

Yeah.

Trisha (99:49)

He has some pull. He does.

Guest Host (99:51)

I mean, I love the casting. I'm so sad. Joelle Siwa is not my. She's my Rapunzel. I really loved her acting tape, and I'm really. I'm really sad about it, but I have a faith or premonition. Just delusion is me and Joelle will be on Traitors together.

Trisha (100:10)

Oh, can work.

Guest Host (100:12)

Cause I feel like they always need to have someone. There's two ice skaters on, you know, there's always has to be, like a pairing from your same field. I feel like me and Joelle could be on there together.

Trisha (100:21)

Yeah.

Guest Host (100:22)

Could work well together. What's her song? I'm a traitor. What is that one she did?

Trisha (100:29)

That was her cover of Olivia Rodrigo.

Moses (100:31)

A traitor.

Guest Host (100:31)

How's it go?

Trisha (100:32)

You're still. You're still a traitor. You're still a traitor. And that's when her face got all red. Was holding that note.

Guest Host (100:44)

I want to do that. You should do that. That was good. You should just clip it. That's pretty good. You're still a traitor. You're still a traitor There.

Trisha (101:07)

Yes. Come on.

Guest Host (101:09)

We're so. Even when I did the snowflake. What? Every snowflake's different. It's supposed to be mcr. Everyone's like, this sounds like Jojo. And I was like, okay, I'll take it. Honestly, we are both in our. Oh, she's out of her bad girl era.

Trisha (101:22)

Yeah, she's in her. I don't know if she's clarified what era she's in. Married.

Guest Host (101:26)

Someone said they were secretly married. What? Yeah. You didn't see a tick tock. I swear I saw that TikTok. Someone's like, they're married.

Moses (101:32)

Would she do anything in secret?

Guest Host (101:33)

It maybe the new Joel might. The rebranding Joel might.

Trisha (101:38)

She posted her 15 minute get ready with me. Look where now she has a pink bow. She's kind of giving a little coet vibe. She's got. I mean, she still has, like her half. Half up, half down, but the pink bow. I. I don't know. I don't know what era she's really in right now. Oh, Lord.

Guest Host (101:57)

What she did.

Trisha (101:58)

AI. I asked Chat GPT first.

Guest Host (102:03)

What?

Trisha (102:03)

I asked Chat gbt. Isn't it Chat GPT?

Moses (102:07)

Yeah.

Guest Host (102:07)

What'd she say?

Trisha (102:08)

Chat gbt.

Guest Host (102:09)

That's very. Me too. Honestly, I don't know.

Trisha (102:12)

GBT to turn us into a family. Her and Christopher. Oh, and now. Oh, my God. I posted her kids oh, you know.

Guest Host (102:21)

I can't hate on that trend. I probably would have done that you 100.

Trisha (102:23)

Yeah, I hear it probably would have.

Moses (102:26)

Than like, what would they look like? You know, I think that's what they do.

Guest Host (102:30)

Oh right. We can like. No, those babies were scary. When you put you and your partners and you're like, oh yeah, these are kind of cute. I've seen this trend before. I like that.

Trisha (102:39)

I mean not the AI but I like the concept. I suppose I have no idea it is but people are doing there also is this trend where it's like they ask like a chatgpt put an image of a man wrapped around like. I know gays have been doing it and I think guys have been doing it with.

Moses (102:56)

With.

Trisha (102:56)

For girls or whatever. Like AI ing a partner for them.

Guest Host (102:59)

Oh yeah.

Trisha (103:00)

And then they'd be like, Twitter, do your thing as like, what? What do you want me to do about it? Like, find you a person who looks like this AI.

Guest Host (103:06)

It's like a fake person.

Trisha (103:07)

Yes. And it makes it like look like they're in a relationship. Like, yeah, it's so odd. I'm like, maybe just stick to hinge. I don't know. Like, what do you mean?

Guest Host (103:15)

Like that idea though, it's almost like going to a psychic and being like, can you like sketch out my like my future lover? And then like finding a person.

Trisha (103:22)

But it's just going to put like a model esque looking person.

Guest Host (103:25)

Oh, it's always a good looking person.

Trisha (103:26)

It's always like a realistic. Sometimes people are like, make it a white person. Which is like, oh, like, oh my God. Like, yeah. And also. But then they post the prompt and then they post. So I'm like, okay, now you're just outing or something.

Guest Host (103:38)

Everyone's just so comfortable these days. Say anything and you're like, this is all public. What is happening? Bring back public shaming. I suppose it works. I mean it works for me. You know what I mean? Like I true.

Trisha (103:51)

You are a success story.

Guest Host (103:54)

I that's why I believe it so wholeheartedly. That's why I'm just like, you know, sometimes you just need to call people because sometimes you're unaware. Sometimes you don't know. Sometimes you think you're, you know, but then when you just, it just, you know, happens over and over, you're like, oh, maybe. Maybe I'm the problem.

Moses (104:08)

Maybe I'm the monster.

Trisha (104:09)

Oh, who's been here? I love that.

Guest Host (104:11)

Went to the gabbienna of it all. Did my phone charge at all or no? Did you just realize you have to charge it.

Moses (104:16)

No, I just finished charging.

Guest Host (104:18)

Oh, okay. I love that orange phone. That could find it anywhere. I lose it all the time. Well, do we have a big story or. No, we don't need one, but I.

Trisha (104:28)

Was gonna make you the big story.

Guest Host (104:29)

No. What am I.

Trisha (104:31)

What did I do? Okay, I'll save you for the end.

Guest Host (104:33)

Oh, no. Okay, that's crazy.

Trisha (104:36)

I have two little ones.

Moses (104:37)

Oh.

Trisha (104:37)

Update on the Haley Bieber situation. She has now allegedly sent a cease and desist to the content creator who posted the original video that she reposted or who she allegedly reposted even though Haley denies reposting it. I don't know how else to word. Oh, okay, so the original Tick Tock was like, the one that alleged that he, Justin, was like, abusive, emotionally abusive towards Haley. And that creator said that Haley reposted it. And then other users also said that Haley reposted it. Haley denied her posting it, but that Julie, who. Who was the original Tick Tockers, still insists that Haley reposted it. Anyway, Haley sent her a cease and desist to stop talking about her, but then she went and posted the cease and desist email, which is funny, but it's very.

Guest Host (105:25)

Ronnie Brittany. It's very much like, don't talk about me. But also, here's the restraining order filed, like that is. Okay, Well, I guess she wants to show people she means business. Look, I feel like cease and desists sadly do nothing. So I think posting that people just kind of like, laugh at you because it does nothing until you actually, actually sue someone. Didn't it work? Who was it? Cardi B. Sued somebody for a blogger for, like, filming her going into a medical.

Trisha (105:46)

Oh, that was. She did film. She did sue a blogger. That was a separate lawsuit.

Guest Host (105:51)

What's the blogger one?

Trisha (105:53)

Gosh, that was last year, I think. Cardi sue gossip blogger Tasha K. For defamation. Oh, it was a while ago. Winning a large judgment in 2022 for false claims about drug use, STDs and prostitution. And then, oh, in 2025, Tasha K. Filed for bankruptcy as a result of the.

Guest Host (106:13)

Oh, right.

Trisha (106:14)

Yeah, yeah.

Guest Host (106:17)

Yeah. I feel like that's more like of a reason to sue, I guess.

Moses (106:19)

But she did. She did say that she claimed that Justin is an addict and that's why they have a toxic relationship and that's why he's not good for her. So she made a lot of assumptions presenting them as fact.

Trisha (106:33)

True.

Moses (106:34)

She's. She didn't do the allegedly game. So. Yeah, that's kind of where that's where it's coming from.

Guest Host (106:40)

Yeah, I suppose. Yeah. If someone's like, this person's an addict. Like, if they said about me, especially when you have, like, a child, because then you can also, like, all that comes into play. So, yeah, I guess I would do.

Trisha (106:49)

And there's also, like, a phenomenon of, like, people asserting themselves as experts in things because they went to college at, you know, for psychology or something. And then they say, I actually went to college for psychology. So I know that Justin for sure has this, this and this. And it's like, okay, well, you.

Guest Host (107:10)

Oh, she said that.

Trisha (107:10)

No, this is another case because there was another tick tock of someone, or I think it was Instagram and Sza commented on it and was like, I think it's important that if you don't have, like, the knowledge in this and you're not an expert and you have not treated them to assert this stuff. Stuff. And then that creator responded, actually, I have my BA and I went to grad school in psychology, whatever. And then Scissors responded, okay, that's great. But you also have not treated them. So, yeah, assert this. This as fact is, like, actually harmful.

Guest Host (107:39)

Yeah.

Trisha (107:39)

Which is true. Yeah.

Guest Host (107:41)

I feel like whenever a doctor is here, too, is like, well, like, I haven't treated this person. Like, you. You have to, like, say that. Yeah, it makes a difference. I was wondering that in general, just how people can just like, get away with. I was like, saying anything as fact. It's not as crazy anymore because I guess this happens, like, where people are suing for that. But, like, there is, like, crazy titles sometimes you're just like, but that's not even true. There's not even, like, anything close to it. It's like, so, yeah, it's just pure clickbait.

Trisha (108:01)

It's so. It's weird. People just assert themselves, like, because they have some little bit of background. Like, yeah, I went to school for journalism. But, like, I would never assert myself as, like, the ultimate journalist who can tell, like, someone on cnn, like, how to do their job or something, you.

Guest Host (108:17)

Know, like, serious issues. I feel like you could, like, you're a journalist, so you could be like, yeah, we're on chicken fry. Interviewing Adam Sandler was like, yeah, I.

Trisha (108:24)

Have, like, the basic, like, fundamental, obviously, like, experience and knowledge. But yeah, people keep asserting themselves. Like, as in any field, they'd be like, I actually was a major in English, so I know that this person is a terrible writer. Like this book or whatever, it's like, okay, but like, that not the end all be I went to film school, so I know that this is a terrible show. It's like, well, it's all kind of subjective, so. Yeah, it's really odd.

Guest Host (108:50)

I love to do that too, sometimes.

Trisha (108:51)

What do you do it for? I was a bit. I was an actor on Euphoria, so I actually know what is for sure.

Guest Host (108:58)

When the trailer came out, I was like, I know that scene. I was there, but I can't say which scene it was. You know what I mean? Like, I want to. Oh, my God, I want to do it so bad. Especially because it was, like, so viral, and I was just like, Trishka, you literally posted Trisha Paytas does not appear in the new trailer for your 4. I was like, okay.

Trisha (109:13)

That was my first thought. Like, that's what I wanted to know right away as well.

Guest Host (109:17)

That's crazy. Anyone to expect me to see me in there was crazy. I mean, I would have loved. I would have loved a little glimpse, but I feel, like, fear. The main character.

Trisha (109:23)

How did you feel about the trailer when you watched it?

Guest Host (109:26)

I. I'm excited. I. You know what? I'm gonna watch Euphoria this year. I'm very excited. And not just for me. Honestly, not just for me, because it's like Drag Race, right? So I started watching Drag Race, and I knew someone was gonna impersonate me, but, like, this season, I really like it, and I don't think anyone's impersonating me, so I think that's gonna be with Euphoria. I think I'm gonna really like it.

Moses (109:42)

It.

Guest Host (109:43)

And, yeah, I liked it to you. Are you excited?

Trisha (109:46)

I am excited. I think either way, it's gonna be, like, a moment that everyone talks about, and that's fun. Like, again, like, heated rivalry. I like when there's, like, something that gets everyone talking, you know, Even if I like he. The rivalry I fell behind on, but I still felt, like, invested and involved because I knew what was going on because I absorbed it.

Guest Host (110:04)

Right.

Trisha (110:04)

So that's fun. I don't know. I enjoy it. I enjoy the discourse. I do.

Guest Host (110:08)

Yeah. People get excited because they're like, oh, this is, you know, Nate and Cassie's wedding. And then, yeah, you have, like, Maddie, like, you just see all stuff. I really like. I like Rue's storyline the best. I think I would. I like hers.

Trisha (110:19)

I wonder why you like Rue's storyline the most.

Guest Host (110:21)

I actually auditioned to be the woman that says, where's my money, Ru? That was my audition, and I didn't get that role. But they gave me a different One, like, we don't see you as this character, but maybe this character. What storyline do you guys think I am in?

Trisha (110:34)

Let me know. Let us know in the comments below. Yeah, I know someone's gonna take that trailer and, like, the Stranger Things and edit you into it. Yeah.

Guest Host (110:41)

I do have a couple of Euphoria cosplays that are already out there. I've been Cassie and Maddie on ASMR, on TikTok. You were Nate Jacobs on one of my TikToks. I've definitely. I definitely cosplayed enough Euphoria to have that out there. No idea what any of it was, but I did, and I'm a character there, so I'm very excited.

Trisha (111:01)

I cannot wait. Will you cosplay yourself when your episode comes out?

Guest Host (111:05)

Maybe if there's a premiere, if I'm invited to it, I can. I could wear my costume.

Trisha (111:10)

Ooh. If the premiere is the same day as iHeart Awards, which one would you choose?

Guest Host (111:17)

You know what? In case I Heart is listening, I heart I'll be there. I don't know if Tom Felton's gonna be there, but I'll be there. You know, I don't know if anyone else could be there. Cause they're all, like, New York performers that are probably performing all the time. True.

Trisha (111:29)

Yeah.

Guest Host (111:30)

I'll be the one that's like. Like, I'm here. I can accept the award. Yeah. I don't know. That's enough one. That's a tough one. Hopefully they're not on the same day. That would be. That'd be a struggle for sure. But I'm excited. When's the premiere? April, I think, is what it said. It's coming up. Damn, everything's coming up so quick. Coachella, like, everything's coming up so fast.

Trisha (111:50)

April 12th is the. When it airs. So the. Yeah. The premiere would realistically be end of March.

Guest Host (111:56)

March. Oh, no.

Trisha (111:57)

Beginning of April. Yeah.

Guest Host (111:59)

I guess we'll cross that bridge when we get there. Two outfits ready as in case watch. I get invited to neither one because, like you said, the Broadway category, in theory, could just be a category and not even, like, presented. So, like, we just want fan votes. We don't really care, so. And then maybe Euphoria probably has. I mean, everyone's in Euphoria this season, so they probably have too big of an invite for the red carpet.

Trisha (112:21)

Was it a category last year, or did they invent this category for you?

Guest Host (112:24)

No, at first I thought they invented it for me, but then I saw, like, so many people. I'm like, well, I guess a lot of. I thought so. I was like, wow. Did they really just make this category?

Trisha (112:31)

Oh, no, it did exist last year.

Guest Host (112:32)

Okay, who won?

Trisha (112:33)

You're going to die. Rachel Zar won last year.

Guest Host (112:36)

Wow. I need to be in that same category. Yes.

Trisha (112:41)

Rachel Zegler would be stepping down and crowning you as kind of.

Guest Host (112:46)

She presents. You know how, like, the Oscars have the past winner come out. Was she there? Did she accept? Or was she just. She probably busy. She probably like, I'm not. That's crazy.

Trisha (112:57)

Oh, my God. That's so funny.

Guest Host (113:00)

Wow.

Trisha (113:01)

The category last year was Deranged. Okay, what was it? Okay, Rachel Zegler was a winner, but her. Her competition was Adam Lambert, Ariana Maddox, Barbie Ferreira, Charli d', Amelio, Grant Gustin, Kit Connor, Lola Tong, Nicole Scherzinger, Robert Downey Jr. Sebastian Yeltra, and Shailene Woodland.

Moses (113:25)

You like it this year? This year is perfect.

Guest Host (113:27)

Could you imagine me nominated next to Robert Downey Jr. Lola. Like, what? Like, that's. Oh, my God. Damn.

Trisha (113:36)

Oh, my God.

Guest Host (113:37)

Wow. And Rachel. Zachary, man. Okay.

Trisha (113:40)

Thank God. Thank God. Yeah. You're in this year.

Guest Host (113:43)

I mean, there's still Neo. You know what I mean? There's still Tom Felt Helton.

Trisha (113:48)

It would have been really tough, though. It was last year.

Guest Host (113:51)

Last year's crazy. I don't think there would have been. Well, I'm glad there was a category.

Trisha (113:54)

Oh, my God. That is.

Guest Host (113:54)

Was she there? Did you see pictures?

Trisha (113:56)

She was not there, but she did have a video message.

Guest Host (113:59)

Yeah. I mean, although Robert Down Jr. Probably wasn't there for that award. You know what I mean?

Trisha (114:02)

But I didn't even want to do a video message.

Guest Host (114:04)

Yeah. Like, who's gonna send us a video?

Trisha (114:07)

That is so funny.

Guest Host (114:09)

Wow. What a cool category. Well, you know.

Trisha (114:12)

Do you want to hear her acceptance?

Guest Host (114:14)

Yeah.

Trisha (114:14)

Okay, let me see.

Guest Host (114:15)

What an honor. Thank you so much to everybody who voted. Being Juliet on Broadway, Making my Broadway debut was a childhood dream come true. I have to thank my lovely co star, Kate Connor, who is also nominated in this category. And also, it's such a huge accomplishment to make your Broadway debut. So to everyone else in this category, I share it with you. And thanks to Sam Gold, Sonya Tai, Jack Antonoff, and Greg Noble for everything just during that process. I'm deeply humbled. This is truly such a dream.

Trisha (114:47)

Thank you. Thank you.

Guest Host (114:48)

Thank you. Thanks. I heart. Okay.

Trisha (114:51)

Yeah, you gotta reheat those nachos.

Guest Host (114:54)

I'm ready. Okay, I will. I'll say. I would say that. And to everyone Else in my category. Like, that's a good one. That is good because you know it's a big deal to make your Broadway debut. Cheryl Porter, because she always talks about like, this is like her first music nomination ever. And she is, I believe she's like around my age or maybe a little old. Like, we're middle aged women. So I'd be like to you, we're still doing it, girl. And like Tom Felton. Love you. Although support trans rights.

Trisha (115:19)

Okay, what's your message to Neo?

Guest Host (115:21)

Oh, Neo, how can I even compete with you? Like, you're a Grammy award winner, I think, or at least nominee. Okay, like, what are you even doing here? You know, Ashley Graham, holding down for plus size. Roxies everywhere. To love that so much, much. Although not plus I, you know. And who else? Who else am I? I'm nominated with. There's other people and I'm like blinking. Oh, well, all the other people. Someone in Wicked. How are you gonna compete with someone from Wicked? You won. You won the whole thing. You're in Wicked. You know. You know, and the votes defense. Oh, yeah.

Trisha (115:59)

What about Moses?

Moses (116:01)

You forgot me.

Guest Host (116:03)

My Moses. My number one fan, my social campaign manager. Thank you for the link in all your bios and to my fans for voting. I love you so much and thank you to iHeart.

Trisha (116:17)

I hope they just clip that and put it on and air it.

Guest Host (116:20)

I love it. My speech is done. Thanks for helping me with it. That's a good one. Oh, my gosh. Oh, I'm excited. Me thinking I always in my head, I'm thinking like, okay, how would I. What is my speech? But then it's like, it really is. It's a very small part. I don't know if I should be in this category, but I guess I did technically make my Broadway debut. But it's small. But we love. There's no small parts. That's my speech. No small parts. Just small actors.

Trisha (116:43)

And I'm the teeniest I've ever been.

Guest Host (116:46)

And my GLP1 is working. I'm excited to just go.

Trisha (116:53)

Killing me.

Guest Host (116:53)

It's honestly an honor to be nominated. I love to be on the carpet. Be like, I'm a nominee. That's crazy. That's a crazy category though. That's wild. Cause I think like, Keanu Reeves made his like, Broadway debut last year. Like, what the.

Trisha (117:04)

Everyone was booked over there.

Guest Host (117:07)

Broadway's where it's at.

Trisha (117:08)

Side note, I really need Rachel Zegler. This is a message to you. Rachel Zegler. Why is she not dating Tom Blythe? Like, she's recently single. Tom Blythe. He's in the People We Meet on Vacation. It's like the number one movie on Netflix right now.

Guest Host (117:21)

Is he.

Trisha (117:21)

Yeah, he's like the main guy in it. And I watched it and damn. And then I saw a video where, like, Netflix had Rachel send a message, like a special question to Tom Blythe. And she's like, hey, bubba, it's me, Rachel. And I was like, like, why are we not dating? Why are we not dating? They're so cute. It's almost giving the movie. Because in the movie, he's like, it's about him and this girl, this who's friends with, and, like, they have such great chemistry, but they're just friends for so long, and then timing's not right. They're kind of giving me that.

Guest Host (117:49)

I'm like, but later on in life, maybe let's get them together.

Trisha (117:52)

They're so cute.

Guest Host (117:53)

Well, we don't know me. She's dating. She's also very close friends with my fave. Who I'm rooting for them today is the Mike Feist. I also. They're all. She's also. Yeah, I feel like they're very cute together. So I'm also kind of hoping there because Tom Blake doesn't sing, does he? I don't know, but my guy sings. And like, theater kids, like, they're just like the king and queen of theater kids.

Trisha (118:08)

And I feel like is such a cutie, though. His like, I was watching that movie and I'm like, damn, you got to put some brown contacts in those eyes because his eyes are so blue and he has, like, dark hair. So really, you just be seeing blue eyes. You love it big. It was almost distracting because they're so big and so blue. I was like, how big?

Guest Host (118:26)

Pools.

Trisha (118:26)

But he's. He's very good in the movie, and he seems like a very sweet guy. And I love Rachel, and they have such good chemistry. They were at the Academy museum gala a couple months ago, and there's like a video of them, like, interacting on the carpet before they took photos. And I'm like, damn, you two are so cute.

Guest Host (118:44)

Cute couple. She really could be get anyone. Honestly, I. Not Tom Blythe hater. But I don't know. He doesn't. Although I haven't started reading that book. I didn't know that was a movie because when I bought. When I bought Wuthering Heights, it said, do you also want this book? And I was just like, wow. And the COVID was cool. Had like, neon Letters. And I was like, yeah, I'll get this one too.

Trisha (119:02)

Yeah, it just came out this past weekend on Netflix. It's like, yeah, I'll read the book first. And it's. Yeah, very popular. It was kind of got lost in the shuffle a little bit because I feel like with Golden Globes and like, I don't know, everything else, there's so much going on.

Guest Host (119:15)

Anything.

Trisha (119:16)

But I really enjoyed it. Although Darian did give it a two stars on Litter Box. I was like, I.

Guest Host (119:21)

That's crazy.

Trisha (119:22)

Yeah, I was really. I had to keep pausing because he kept. He's really bad at covering when he doesn't like something. And he's not like a rom com kind of boy. He's like a Marty Supreme Hamnet kind of boy.

Guest Host (119:31)

Okay.

Trisha (119:32)

So he. He would like, I'd like the meet cute or like, you know, the quirky rom com moments.

Guest Host (119:37)

Yeah.

Trisha (119:39)

And I had to pause it every time I said. And I was like, please do not sigh during this. You did? Yes. I was like, no, you gotta take this serious.

Guest Host (119:46)

Wow.

Trisha (119:46)

And as soon as those credits came, he opened letterbox, gave it two stars. And I said, two stars? You got to at least give it a three.

Guest Host (119:52)

Oh, why did he say two stars? He just didn't like it.

Trisha (119:53)

He just does not like a romcom like he does. He thinks it's too, like, quirky. Too, like, convenient plot wise. I'm like, well, this is.

Guest Host (120:01)

Yeah, that's what it is.

Trisha (120:01)

Magic of life.

Guest Host (120:02)

It's simple viewing. That's what we need to see. I know. I like to pause too. If he's on his phone, I'd be like, pause. I'm like, you need to.

Trisha (120:07)

You need to lock in. Watch. Yes.

Guest Host (120:08)

You're going to miss the best part. Or he'll like, go get a snack and I'll pause. He's like, no, don't pause. I'm like, yes, pause. Like you're going to miss. Especially Traders. There'll be like two minutes left. And I'm like, but this is the part. Yeah, they're. They're about to eliminate people. Yeah, that's. Well, I'm gonna watch it now. You convinced me.

Trisha (120:22)

It was really cute.

Guest Host (120:24)

I don't think much about him, but I do like Hunger Games. I like him in Hunger Games. That's the only thing I saw him in. So same.

Trisha (120:28)

And I guess it was the blonde wig because I didn't really think much of him in as coriolaneous. No, but him in here and his natural hair. I was like, wow, I'm Seeing the vision.

Guest Host (120:40)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The brunettes. Yeah, yeah. Okay, I'll watch it. I'll watch it. Okay. Should we do the final one?

Trisha (120:50)

That was my final one, mama.

Guest Host (120:51)

Oh, I thought I was in it.

Trisha (120:53)

Euphoria.

Guest Host (120:54)

Oh, oh, I didn't know. Oh, sorry I spoiled the final one. What were you gonna say about it? That's it.

Trisha (121:00)

Just thought. Yeah, I just wanted to get your thoughts. Yes.

Guest Host (121:05)

Insert me in there. Like there I am eventually.

Trisha (121:07)

Yup, yup. Although someone did comment on my YouTube video this morning. My like last live stream saying that the Ovon talked about you, but I don't know what he said. I guess we'll see.

Guest Host (121:18)

I don't know if I want to know.

Trisha (121:19)

I know.

Guest Host (121:19)

Same time a man talks about me, I just. I instantly. I scrolled past something about it and I was like, I don't want to know.

Moses (121:25)

They were basically covering your.

Trisha (121:28)

Sorry, my bad.

Moses (121:29)

They're basically covering your political run.

Guest Host (121:31)

Oh, gosh. When it gets. That's what I'm saying. When it gets to the wrong side of the Internet. I don't want to know.

Trisha (121:38)

That is funny. The Ovon and Trevor Wallace.

Guest Host (121:40)

Oh, no. I mean, I don't know. Sounds not like a fans of mine.

Trisha (121:45)

I don't know.

Guest Host (121:45)

Sounds like people who are not like me.

Moses (121:48)

They were nice. I mean they were nice in their delivery. They just covered it.

Guest Host (121:51)

Like any news I get triggered instantly. The first thing I think of is like guys being like she's fat or something. Or even Joe Rogan when I was brought up briefly. He's like, ew, keep it. I was like, oh, okay. Damn. It was like a female comedian talking about me too. And he's like, oh my God.

Trisha (122:07)

Should hear it. Office.

Moses (122:09)

Did you see that?

Trisha (122:10)

Do you know her kids names?

Guest Host (122:12)

I don't know why you would.

Trisha (122:14)

I don't know why I do, but her kids names are something. Can you pull that up somewhere?

Guest Host (122:18)

That's what I'm saying. Instantly, like, what are we talking about? Me running for congress for my kids names.

Trisha (122:21)

Aquaman, who should be in the new Jason Momoa movie.

Moses (122:24)

Wow.

Guest Host (122:25)

Malibu Barbie.

Trisha (122:26)

Malibu Barbie, yeah. Is this real? She's running for president. She's running for office, I believe for congress.

Guest Host (122:33)

Oh my God. Oh my God.

Moses (122:35)

They're watching your tv.

Guest Host (122:36)

Oh my God, oh my God.

Moses (122:37)

They're like, wait, she. Is he doing a mukbang?

Guest Host (122:39)

Is she eating by the time. Is she doing a mukbang while running for office?

Trisha (122:43)

That is crazy.

Guest Host (122:45)

That's a good way to keep attention though. Why the Biden eating goddamn overnight Oats. Mac and cheese. Not overriding oats. That was spiral craft box, sir. Left over for my kids at lunch that morning in a Tupperware.

Moses (122:58)

Now they're going to talk about Biden for a while.

Trisha (123:00)

That was. Oh.

Moses (123:03)

They'Ll come. Come back to it after.

Guest Host (123:04)

But they don't care about my congressional. Why don't you tell me about this? I mean, this is kind of.

Moses (123:10)

Because to me it's kind of obvious that he would know about you.

Guest Host (123:13)

Are they being mean?

Moses (123:14)

No, no, they were not mean at all. Like, to them it was just like reading a news article. They were just covering.

Guest Host (123:21)

But like, what news article are they reading on that?

Moses (123:23)

Like that. Because it was covered in pretty much most big news outlets.

Guest Host (123:29)

I like to start the new year just fresh. Not trolling. I just want people to like, like see me as just not wanting attention. I'm just trying to just blend in, you know?

Trisha (123:38)

Oh, okay. You as a mime. You as a mime at the dominoes. Trying to blend in. Okay.

Moses (123:45)

You should have done that to run the Congress as a mime.

Trisha (123:49)

I'm just trying to. That's. That's a good headline. Trisha Paytas. Just trying to blend in.

Guest Host (123:52)

I am.

Moses (123:55)

Beyond words.

Guest Host (123:57)

Well, okay, you guys.

Trisha (123:59)

I don't know. Isn't Tana friends with Trevor Wallace? I think I remember. Oh, Jimmy texted me once. Oh, Jimmy texted me once while he was editing, I think. Not Loveline. He's like, is Trevor Wallace problematic? Like, should I cut this out? And I was like. And I googled. And I was like, I don't think so. But he sounds like it's a name that you would think would have done something at some point. Yeah, he just.

Guest Host (124:19)

Male white comedian with a podcast.

Trisha (124:22)

Yes. And it's like the first and last name being like Trevor and Wallace could be someone's first name.

Guest Host (124:28)

Yes.

Trisha (124:29)

It just sounds like a recipe for disaster. But I guess so far so good question, Mark.

Guest Host (124:33)

I don't know all of that. Yeah. Like Theobald. I don't know if he's problematic. He seems like he could be.

Trisha (124:38)

Yeah.

Guest Host (124:38)

People like him. But then be like, no, not him.

Trisha (124:40)

And I'm like, okay, yeah.

Guest Host (124:41)

But I don't know. I'm not in the weeds of it, you know, I don't know if I want to know.

Trisha (124:46)

D. Yeah.

Guest Host (124:48)

But I think Trevor Wallace did go on a date with both Brooke and Tan.

Trisha (124:51)

That's fine.

Guest Host (124:53)

And I think Tana was dressed as a play by Bunny when she went to his house. That's what I know. I don't know I know nothing. I know nothing about them. When guys comment on anything about me, I immediately shrivel up, dry up, stitch my vagina up. I don't want anything near it. Like it does. That makes me not want to be around men. But I'm glad they're. I don't know, I guess they're super nice. I don't know what the hell happened with that. They're for me. They're not. Don't give me a Just kidding. Not my demographic. I think they're Nashville. I think they're good for him, good for me. Why doesn't think it's a viral that I like want to go viral. Like, what? Why don't people say like, oh, Trisha Paytas won the lottery, you know, in life.

Moses (125:36)

Well, if you win, it will go viral.

Guest Host (125:39)

Could you imagine if I won the billion dollars? People were like, I'd help everybody. I'd be helping everybody in the world. Starting with the trafficking. Actually, I think the trafficking is the first thing. Trafficking, children, horses, I, I like that. But the Florida governor doesn't care about it.

Trisha (125:57)

Maybe that should be the platform.

Guest Host (125:59)

Yeah, that's a better platform than going after Sophie Rain making money on of. Oh, that gave me a sinking feeling. When guys are talking about me, I'm like, oh, I don't want to, I don't want to know. They also don't get it. They don't get the vision anyways. Well, you guys also. I saw another one. Someone thought I was pregnant. I was like, I'm not because like Robert Kennedy's about to die or something.

Trisha (126:23)

Who said that?

Guest Host (126:24)

I don't know. I always did on my tick tock. It's like, oh, Trisha. And then I'm like, what? And then someone was like, yeah, I saw it. And like they're a psychic and they had a vision.

Trisha (126:33)

My trainer even knew my trainer, who I don't even know how he's not. Doesn't seem very online. But he randomly brought up Ozzy Osbourne today and he was like, oh, doesn't the girl you work with, didn't she give birth to Ozzy Osborne?

Guest Host (126:44)

That's crazy. That's so crazy because this day we had before you got here, we had a full day. We did a six month photo shoot with Aquaman and our photographer was like, did Jason Momoa ever comment on his name? I was like, no. And they're like, why not? I was like, well, Ozzy died the same day and he was close friends with him. We just talked about it this morning too. We did Aquaman's photo shoot this morning. We did a fitting for Weathering Heights Costumes. Went to In N Out and signed the headshots. Did the stickers. Oh, I had. Oh, it's in my purse. Oh, there it is. I have a sticker for you. The sticker for next month. I feel like you would really like. So I was like, I gotta save one of these for.

Trisha (127:21)

I'm excited.

Guest Host (127:22)

Yeah, I feel like you would.

Moses (127:24)

Yeah, he was both of you in that same situation.

Guest Host (127:26)

Here's the.

Trisha (127:29)

My favorite video. Oh my gosh. I love, love, love this.

Moses (127:35)

It's so funny.

Guest Host (127:36)

I've had that for so long. And then I saw you commented that underneath my mime and I was like, wait, I have these stickers.

Trisha (127:41)

I love this video more than anything.

Guest Host (127:43)

Yeah, that's the next one. Sticker no longer talking.

Trisha (127:46)

I love it. I. I love more. So the fact that you somehow thought it was offensive and took it off your channel, that also I love. Yeah. You privated or something? I had to find it. Someone had to re upload it.

Guest Host (127:56)

I should go look. I'll put it back up for you. But did you know when you republic something, it like goes to the front like, as if it's a new video. Like it'll be in the subscriptions again.

Trisha (128:04)

I need you to go through and just start doing everything. I wonder if I deleted it, but pick and choose.

Guest Host (128:10)

But. Well, I know the ones. There's ones that are just deleted because I like, look and I'm like, wow, there's some that are just no longer existed. But yeah, the ones I privated. I guess I thought maybe you'll go back one day. I don't know. So that's it for next month. Well, guys, I'm still talking because I have a podcast that's my next podcast. I'm still talking going, okay, maybe we talk about on Patreon. You're still going to follow through with your weekend plans?

Trisha (128:35)

Oh, yes. As of now, yes.

Guest Host (128:37)

When is it?

Trisha (128:38)

Saturday.

Guest Host (128:39)

I'm going to follow up with you. You give a little push.

Trisha (128:42)

Be like, you better be there.

Moses (128:44)

I did save it.

Guest Host (128:46)

You saved what?

Moses (128:51)

I do have the video.

Guest Host (128:54)

What is that?

Moses (128:55)

It's your video. I'm no longer talking. But it's just people put TikTok this sound with it.

Guest Host (129:01)

Oh my God. Scary. Wow, look at that. Tiny forearms. Oh my God. It's skinny, those wrists.

Moses (129:12)

Just in case that we can't use this.

Guest Host (129:13)

You know, people call my arms ham hock arms and that. Look how skinny they are. Haters. Wow. Pre lips pre boobs.

Trisha (129:22)

Aw.

Guest Host (129:24)

Beautiful. Beautiful. All right, that's it. For real. We love you guys. Have a great weekend. Thursdays are our favorite days. And we will see you in the next one. Bye.