Just Trish Ep 236

Summary

Just Trish Ep 236 – December 16, 2025

Podcast: Just Trish
Host: Trisha Paytas
Co-host: Oscar Gracey
Guest/Contributor: Moses (Trisha’s husband)

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Episode Overview

This vibrant episode of Just Trish is a whirlwind late-night catch-up just before the holiday break. Trisha, joined by her husband Moses and co-host Oscar, delivers her signature hot takes on viral headlines, internet drama, and celebrity gossip. The crew covers everything from canceled cruises and viral TikToks, to postpartum controversies, meet-and-greet mishaps, and LGBTQ+ representation on TV. With their typically unfiltered humor and realness, they also reflect on body image, family dynamics, and the ever-evolving spectacle of pop culture.

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Key Segments & Discussion Highlights

1. Holiday Updates & "Trishmas" Tour Life

• [00:42–04:48] Trisha returns from her Trishmas live show tour, sharing travel chaos and gratitude to fans.

  • Notable Quote:
    • “[Trishmas] has been so great and so wonderful and so many of you have showed up to so many shows... I love Canada. I love Canada.” (03:12–03:28)

• [04:51–06:13] Preparation for a big secret project, balancing work and family, and excitement for upcoming break.

• [06:13–07:09] Spotify “Optimist Award” and Domino’s sponsorship story.

  • “Thank you. Trisha Paytas, the Eternal Opinion Optimist award... It’s nice to be acknowledged” (06:52)

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2. Hot Topics: Jay Shetty "Postpartum & Cheating" Controversy

• [09:26–14:42] The hosts break down viral clips of Jay Shetty discussing how some men cheat postpartum due to feeling “unloved” or “forgotten” after childbirth.

  • Jay Shetty Clip [10:55]:
    • “Most men feel after their partner gives birth that they feel unloved, they feel like a second priority, and they feel unthought about. And that's also why... more men are likely to cheat at that time.”
  • Trisha’s Response:
    • “Men cheat because they're no longer a priority. Like, once the baby's born, they're not the priority, and they lack attention... But also, sometimes a man is still a man, where their takes are—it’s just a weird thing to even acknowledge.” (11:21, 13:40)

• Discussion on how postpartum affects both parents differently, double standards, and the societal expectations of couples after childbirth.

• Moses:

  • Urges men to “not be ready that your partner is going to go through a lot. You don’t need to seek attention at that point, you need to give the attention, you need to care, you need to be present.” (16:24–16:52)

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3. Celebrity Splits & Reality TV: "Love Is Blind" Divorce & Gendered Parenting Roles

• [18:00–22:02] The discussion shifts to the divorce of Alexa and Brennan from Love is Blind, details about the end of their relationship, and further discussion about the challenges of parenting in the public eye.

• Trisha points out that divorced mothers often bear the brunt of parenting post-breakup:

  • “Then the dads could just go be part time dads… the moms seem to also take on most of the work.” (22:02)

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4. Waymo Self-Driving Car Drama & Meet-and-Greet Stories

• [23:18–25:33] Oscar and Trisha discuss viral/internet stories, including comedian Esther Povitsky’s Waymo (self-driving car) accident and a story about someone discovering a man in the trunk of a Waymo.

• Reflections on always checking the back seat, childhood safety talks, and inspiration from Sunday School anecdotes. (25:01–25:33)

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5. Cat’s Eye Concert Recap (Oscar’s big moment!)

• [26:04–39:12] Oscar recounts going to two nights of the viral Cat’s Eye girl group concerts, his photo-op experiences, and fan interactions.
  • Oscar: “I wore my Trisha shirt and walked in and the girls are so sweet... it was such a hit.” (29:47–30:06)
  • Meet-and-greet logistics: “It’s literally a photo op. They’re on little stools… 12 people in one photo. It’s a little diabolical.” (28:28)
  • Pop culture crossover: Oscar wears “I’m canceled again” tee to photo op, the group clocking returning fans, and strategizing group photo placement.
  • Memorable quote: “I want to see the picture. I'm at peace with the FaceTune—I'm going to look gorgeous. If you're right behind her, I'm going to crop it. It’s my Instagram.” (34:27–34:56)

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6. The Cancelation of the Trish Cruise & JoJo Siwa’s Cruise Announcement

• [43:42–51:26] The much-discussed “Trish Cruise” is likely canceled, replaced by a JoJo Siwa-hosted event with Royal Caribbean.
  • Trisha: “Not me being in competition with a 22-year-old, but because I think me and JoJo are relatively similar, I was just like, nooo.” (45:15)
• Breakdown of VIP cruise pricing and activities, family-friendly marketing, and speculation about cruise law (poop cruise tangent).

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7. White Lotus Casting Rumors & Trisha’s Acting News

• [51:48–54:13] Trisha and Oscar speculate on White Lotus season four casting, mention Helena Bonham Carter rumors, and Trisha teases her own roles:
  • “I am in my acting era and I have a big scene tomorrow... I had a lot of improv in my seat. You know me with improv—I'm not good at improv, but I had to do a lot of it.” (71:11–71:18)

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8. Heated Rivalry, Representation & Gay Twitter Drama

• [56:07–65:52] Recap of the Heated Rivalry queer TV show controversy—Jordan Firstman gets heat for critiquing its depiction of gay intimacy.
• Discussion of “frauding” and visibility of LGBTQ+ relationships in media.
  • Oscar: “At the end of the day, any show that's successful that's centered around queerness is like, oh, win at the end of the day, you know?” (65:33)

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9. Current Pop Culture: Euphoria, Timothée Chalamet, & the “Best Performance” Debate

• [67:38–77:40] Euphoria Season 3 teaser reactions, Jacob Elordi’s “is it good??” nerves, and Trisha’s on-set improv stories.
• [74:09–76:17] Debate on Timothée Chalamet’s “athlete” mentality about acting, self-hyping, and whether art can be ‘the best’ or is always subjective.
  • Oscar on Chalamet: "He said, this is probably my best performance, you know, and it’s been seven or eight years that I feel like I’ve been handing in really, really committed, top-of-the-line performances… I don’t want people to take it for granted.”

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10. Body Image, GLP-1s, and Representation

• [106:00–116:28] Deep dive on the Kamora Lee Simmons family reality show—problematic “you look healthy” comments, eating disorder triggers, generational body image patterns, and the line between supportive and damaging family remarks.
  • Key Moment: The group denounces body commentary culture: “Just that—don’t comment on people’s [bodies].” (113:20–113:22)
  • *Oscar recounts the scarcity of body-positive mainstream media, but spotlights Taylor Swift’s tour documentary for featuring a plus-size backup dancer.
  • Trisha: “As someone who never got auditions ever, like it was just, like, never a thing… I love now that they’re doing this... In fact, we’re probably the majority of people who eat pizza.” (115:53–116:22)
• Conversation on GLP-1 drugs, weight loss, and the intrusive commentary people face about body size and dieting. (117:41–124:50)
  • Notable Quote:
    • “We just need to not comment on anyone’s bodies… You can think it, share it with your spouse… I never once told him, ‘oh my God, she’s so skinny’...” (118:53, 119:23)

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11. Generational Shifts, Pop Culture, & Fandoms

• [96:38–100:41] Talk about concert-going habits of Gen Z, nostalgia for pop shows as a kid, and the unique energy fans bring to modern meet and greets—Trisha’s story of a young fan dressed as Uncle Baby Billy.

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12. Wrap-Up & Reflections

• [122:25–125:45] Episode winds down with discussion of body image, supportive parenting, and the challenges of being public figures during “skinny’s back” era.
• Sign-off:
  • “Well, you guys, it’s the holidays. Enjoy your life. Life is too short to be on GLP-1s. Although it could be short if you’re not on GLP-1s. So whatever works for you. Talk to your doctor, not us. You guys will see you in the next one.” (125:09–125:45)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On body image commentary:
  • “Just that—don’t comment on people’s [bodies].” – Trisha (113:20)
• On pop culture cycles:
  • “The pendulum is crazy… Everyone is just skinny now. It’s okay. We’re still here.” – Oscar (116:37, 122:04)
• On queer TV drama:
  • “At the end of the day, love more queerness. Like, I feel like we’re in an age where… LGBT representation in scripted shows is kind of getting smaller. So… any show that’s successful, that’s like, centered around queerness, is like, oh, win at the end of the day, you know?” – Oscar (65:33)
• On supportive partners in parenthood:
  • “If you’re cheating on your wife right after she just gave life to your child… that is crazy.” – Trisha (17:18)
• On Jay Shetty’s viral clip:
  • “Men cheat because they’re no longer a priority. Like, once the baby’s born, they’re not the priority and they lack attention… But also, sometimes a man is still a man: their takes are—it's just a weird thing to even acknowledge.” – Trisha (11:21, 13:40)
• On authenticity in performance:
  • “He said, ‘this is probably my best performance … so people don’t take it for granted’.” – Oscar on Timothée Chalamet (75:38)

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Episode Flow & Tone

The episode is typical Just Trish: casual, honest, freewheeling, and filled with hot takes, laughter, minor tangent spirals, and personal anecdotes. The late-night taping adds a punchy, slightly loopy energy. The conversation swings between celebrity culture, social issues, and their own lives—with a strong undercurrent of championing authenticity and calling out toxic or outdated norms.

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Useful Timestamps for Key Topics

• Jay Shetty Cheating Postpartum Controversy: [09:34–14:42]
• Love Is Blind Divorce Discussion: [18:00–22:02]
• Oscar’s Cat’s Eye Concert Recap: [26:04–39:12]
• Trish Cruise Cancellation / JoJo Siwa Cruise: [43:42–51:26]
• Heated Rivalry & Queer TV Representation: [56:07–65:52]
• Euphoria & Timothée Chalamet 'Athlete Actor' Debate: [67:38–77:40]
• Kamora Lee Simmons Show / Body Image & Family Dynamics: [106:00–116:28]
• Body Positivity in Pop Music / GLP-1 Tangent: [117:41-124:50]
• Wrap Up (Late-night Sleepover Vibes): [122:31–125:45]

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This episode delivers everything fans expect from Just Trish: the latest drama, unapologetic opinions, offbeat humor, a dose of pop culture nostalgia, and heartfelt talk about what it means to exist—loudly and authentically—on the internet.

Transcript

[A]

Our Trish cruise might not be happening.

[B]

Why?

[A]

I feel like, you know, everyone asked me about it because did we talk about it on the podcast or did I tell you? I was telling everybody. I was telling glam. I was telling dancers. I was telling everyone, guys, we're doing a cruise next year. Like, she's like, hi, this is Alexa.

[C]

How dare you.

[A]

Mom, stop it. Her name is Trish. She's got the niche and all it Hot Topic queen and says what everybody thinks. She's just Trish.

[C]

Yay.

[A]

Hello, welcome to the late night edition of Just Trish. Maybe morning when you see it. I wonder if you can tell the difference in the vibes versus we usually film like 9am versus now it's about 6pm which is like so late. The travel day I had. Hi, welcome to Just Trish. That was a horrible intro. I'm sorry. Welcome to Just Trish. Hope your week is going strong. Last week before Christmas break, I think that's like Happy New Year.

[B]

Bible loves this song too.

[A]

Anyway, it's a great song. I should do a cover of that song. I want to wish you a merry Christmas I want to wish you a merry Christmas I want to wish you a merry Christmas Bottom of my heart and Hanukkah and Kwanzaa. And if you're an atheist, enjoy that day off, whatever it is you celebrate. Boxing Day. Oh, it's a good one. Okay, that's the intro we want to see. Hi guys. Happy week. No, honestly, we have this Hot Topics. We have one of Oscar's favorite guests coming this week. And then we'll have one more Hot Topics for next week before we take our little Christmas break. It has been non stop and go, go, go. Oscar will be joining us soon. Today has been. We were supposed to be starting at 3:30. I'm not trying to bore you too much with the details because it's fine we're here. But the travel day should have taken me like six hours to get home. Took like literally 12 hours. I kept having to push. Was a crazy thing. And then we're also on the six to eight time crunch. So we're like, okay, we'll just start. You know Oscar, he knows those Hot Topics. He'll come in, it'll be fresh and fun and thank God for Hot Topic or. And Oscar. Thank God for Hot Topics and Oscar because I once again was on tour this weekend with the Trishmas live show and it was wonderful and great, but I don't have much time to scroll on Tick Tock. So I have a Few hot topics. Moses and I send hot topics. We said not hot topics. We send tick tocks to each other. I'm like, ooh, could be a hot topic sometimes. Mine was. Well, you'll know what mine is in a second. But thank you guys so much for coming out to church Miss this year. It has been so great and so wonderful and so many of you have showed up to so many shows. A lot of the same people come back. So thank you. I have one more show. Last show is in Vancouver. One night only. Vancouver, Canada. I need to find my passport. It's next Monday, December 22nd. Come see us. I'm super excited. I have never been to Vancouver. I love Canada. I love Canada. We were just talking about like, literally, I feel like Canada is the move. If I was going to move anymore, I think I'd move to Canada. People are really nice. I think you guys all have some free health care, right? Don't think they can't have like babies for free up there.

[B]

I think, yeah, babies for everyone.

[A]

Love that. That as they should. We're talking about babies. I'm like, why? How. Why is it so expensive to have a baby? Like, we're like, you're adding to the population. Like, why. Why is it costing us money? Like, so shout out Canada for doing health care right. Having a prime minister that's dating Katy Perry. And those poutine fries, which I've never tried, but they look good. The gravy. We love you guys. So come to Trishmas. I think that's actually almost sold out. It's. If it's not sold out, it's like 98 sold out. So check it out. But thank you so much. And we also have new T shirts. Heavily meditated are our new shirts. It is a crop baby towel and I've been. This shirt has been three years in the making. So it's taken so long to get here. But it's here. As is our just Trish pajama pants. They're almost sold out. Actually a lot of sizes are sold out. We also have cups for the holiday season. If you order today, you will still get it in time for Christmas. But you'd have to order it like today as in like today. And yeah, so there's that. Thank you all for coming to Trishmas. Yeah. I came back from Philadelphia today and wow. Yeah. That was crazy. It was good. I mean, you know what everything like on good timing. I was like, maybe like the snow. I think there was like no visibility and then they had to like defrost the Runway for every plane. So honestly, just happy we made it back.

[B]

No, it's amazing you can fly in those conditions.

[A]

Yeah. Honestly. Yeah. I didn't know if we make it back and then we're shooting this on a Sunday night. Normally shoot Monday, because tomorrow I am filming my very big secret project. It's my second day filming this very big project. So I'm really excited for that. And I have to be up at 4 in the morning. Should be like 3:30 in the morning. And Moses's Bolognese is, is, is ready to go. Ready to go. So there's a lot. And my, my dad's upstairs, so, like, there's a certain amount of time anyways, but we're here. I'm excited. I'm excited. I love doing this. I do love doing this. I think that's why I was like, so, like, bummed is because I was like, okay, I don't want to miss. I don't know. I'm very like, I don't want to miss an episode, you know, never. Especially. Cause we are taking a break. Moses said the other day, he's like, I kind of think we don't need to go on a Christmas break for the podcast. I'm like, I think maybe yes. You were like, no, it's easy. It's just a couple. And I agree with you. But I mean, we need a little break. We do just go.

[B]

I just think about our audience. But luckily we have Patreon, so, you know, go there. Patreon.com it's like 5 bucks, 10 bucks. But you have probably a thousand videos. So you can binge over the holiday and just watch. And they're timeless. All your reaction, like, there's videos there.

[A]

Patreon.com/trish Extended podcast and the bonus videos.

[B]

That'S where the gold is.

[A]

The bonus videos is where it's at. So.

[B]

So on the break, don't worry, you can see us as much as you want.

[A]

I feel like you wanted to keep the podcast going. You like doing the podcast.

[B]

I would. For me, it's like, you know me. I'm like, consistency is number one for people.

[A]

Because it's like, this is our like, little social hour that we get with each other. Well, like we.

[B]

Like I said, she walks in the door, I'm like, no, keep it for the podcast. No, I'm joking.

[A]

Sometimes. What's your Hot Topics? You're like, oh, I'm going to let you.

[B]

We do that with guest. Guests come in and you guys start talking. I'm like, no, wait a minute.

[A]

Yeah, we do have a little. A little key set.

[B]

That's what we say. Keep it for the podcast. Congratulations on your award over there.

[A]

Thank you. We got our Spotify, which I think they just kind of gave out the same award to.

[B]

It's an award. It's heavy.

[A]

Thank you. Trisha paid us the Eternal Opinion Optimist. Optimist award. Thank you, Spotify. If we were on your Spotify, wrapped. Thank you guys so much. It's nice to be acknowledged. We didn't even see the bling. Dominoes.

[B]

Oh, we'll bring them in.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, I'll keep talking, you guys. The holidays are here. Christmas is just around the corner. How are you doing, Jimmy, our editor now. How are you guys doing? Jimmy, I do want to know how you're doing. I wasn't just going past that. We never really got to, like. I mean, we elaborated, but yes, I got to star in a Domino's commercial. It was three. Really? Three sponsored posts. Just back to. Back to back. Your girl got sponsored. Look at these blinged pizza boxes they made us. Ooh, look at those pizzas. So the lava cakes are still happening? Not sponsored on the podcast, but we're trying to get another brand deal. So many people are like, trish, pizza. When? And it's like, I know, right? You know? Thank you. Seriously, even they were like, this was great. Thank you for the response. Like, you guys all really showed up. Because who gets excited when someone's sponsored? Like, most time people are like, ah, enough with this sponsored post. But y' all were like, yes. Finally, Trisha got that Domino's bag. I mean, it's authentic. I don't think there's a more authentic collaboration. I got the lava cakes this weekend. You can still get free lava cakes. Happy B Day is the code when you put $10 or more on Domino's. This podcast is not sponsored, but it was sponsored last week, and it was the highlight of my life. I got to say happy birthday to them. It was funny because they put out, like, a compil. A bunch of influencers saying happy Birthday before mine. And everyone's like, where's Trish? And then they posted it actually right away because people were wondering where I was. So, again, thank you, you guys. You know, I'm just. This is. This is the dream. This is. I think this might be my peak. 20, 25. I don't know. I think there's a lot of peaks, but maybe. Maybe Domino's is the peak. So thank you. We love those Lava cakes. We've been eating them all weekend. Moses sending me pictures of the kids eating them because they sent us home with, like, a ton of lava cakes.

[B]

And I know, because I was going to order cakes last night, and it was too late. I was like, oh, you know what? I have some lava cakes in the freezer. Just pop them in.

[A]

Yeah, they were. They're wonderful. Yeah. They gave us, like, this whole tray of lava cakes, and they are delicious. So get yours today. But we're home. I love traveling. I love being home, too.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, we should go on a cruise or something.

[A]

Well, there it is. Should we just go with that? Or should we. Or should we see if Oscar will be here to talk about the cruise? Should we. Should I talk about the Jay Shetty one first? Because I feel like that's the more. Yeah, I feel like, you know, Oscar loves a JoJo hot topic. I mean, we only have two hot topics between me and Moses. It's JoJo or Jay Shetty.

[B]

There's more. There's more.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah. But Jay Shetty is one that you just sent me, and I saw that. I was like, that's a hot topic. I want to talk about it.

[A]

Yeah. I don't even know if it's, like, that hot of a topic, but for some reason, I don't even know if it's like. I think it might have been, like, in November he talked about it or.

[B]

Because it reminds me of the guy that you don't like so much from a podcast, and he made a song and something about the birth, and he was all, oh, man, Abby. Yes.

[A]

Oh, right. It's kind of the same.

[B]

It's the same type.

[A]

Well, no, I don't think so. I think it's still a different. Because it was. It's like, two very different things. Okay. Because they're basically both talking about postpartum for men now. I do believe this is, like, a real thing for men. I'm not, like, one to be like, obviously, like, hormones aren't changing, but, like, a lot changes. So I think even though I do not like Matt Nabi, like, I don't like their rage bait of it all. And they're going through it like they went through a tough time recently. What they put out in the past, like, you know, I was the rage bait of it all. Was. But I. I get a bag. Men can go through postpartum. I believe it. Not like a hormonal thing, but I believe that they can probably suffer from some sort of.

[B]

Let's say what Jay's Shetty.

[A]

So Jay Shetty was on his podcast. Was. I think it's his wife that he was talking to.

[B]

Oh, I didn't know that.

[A]

Okay, I would assume. I don't know. But he was talking about how men go through postpartum and that's why they cheat. He's basically, like, paraphrasing here.

[C]

Most men feel after their partner gives birth that they feel unloved. They feel like a second priority, and they feel unthought about. And that's also why the trends show that more men are likely to cheat at that time.

[A]

No way.

[C]

When? Either when their wife are pregnant or when their wife gives birth. Because, again, I'm not condoning this. I'm just talking about the statistics. Because that's when they feel neglected.

[A]

Men cheat because they're no longer a priority. Like, once the baby's born, they're not the priority, and they lack attention. They're like, what about me?

[B]

And.

[A]

And if they don't get it, that's why they go out and cheat. Now, he does say he doesn't condone it. He's like, these are just stating facts. But I'm also like, why are we putting this out there? Like, why are we even. Because it's like, is it facts? What's the percentage? And also, like. Or are they just awful humans?

[B]

We hear about a lot of cases like that, so it happens a lot. But the framing of it is weird to me. It's like, the framing of it is like, men don't get attention. They go seek it elsewhere. Instead of saying, men are not okay, let's say if you want to be super, like, men are not prepared for what's coming. And then they get like. There's so many ways to say it that are not excusing it or not. I don't know. The framing of it is weird because I don't care. Okay. There could be a hundred million reasons for your wife not to give you attention or sexual attention.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

For many different reasons, which are all valid. And you have to learn how to work with it with them together. And before you go cheat, like, cheating is the. Basically, when you say, I'm done, I'm going to cheat. I'm going to, you know, cheat on my children. I just had a baby. I'm going to cheat on my wife. I'm going to break everything around me. I'm going to destroy the family that we're bringing together. That's what's happening in reality.

[A]

Right. And my first thought was just like, well, what about. What about the women also not getting attention? You know what I mean? Like, they're also not. You don't get your hair done. You don't get your nails done. Your. Your husband probably isn't like, you know, like, you're not getting the attention either, and you have to take care of a baby, and you probably have to feed the baby, and you just birthed the baby, and your hormones are all changing, and you just went through all these like. Like, so, yes, men probably are not getting as much of attention, but neither is the woman, neither is the mother that just gave birth to the baby. Like, no one's getting attention. The baby is getting all the attention. So it was like, a weird argument, I guess. And it's like, men can go physically. Women can't even go out and cheat. Not that you ever feel like it, as, you know, if you give birth. Like, very few women are, like, horny right away after they give birth, you know, so it's like. And on top of that, you're bleeding so physically, like, it just. There's wounds. There's wounds. You. You just can't physically have sex because it's dangerous. So.

[B]

And time, like, you have no time to see a friend.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, okay, it was a clip. It wasn't edited. But maybe there was, like, a bigger context to what they're talking about, because his wife is there. And I will say, I think it's his wife. I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure it is, because he was talking, and she goes. She was just like. You know, he said, men are no longer a priority. And then she's like, as they shouldn't be, like, she's. She was quick to come with it. So the lady he was interviewing, or it was with, I think it was his wife who said in the caption. She was like, yeah, why would they be. She was, like, very quick to, like, defend it against him. I like Jay Shetty. I'm trying to get on that podcast. I like him. But also, sometimes a man is still a man, where their takes are. It's just, like, a weird thing to even acknowledge because it's like, especially Jay Shetty, right? Former monk, enlightened, which I love. Which we love. But it's also like, I don't know. I wasn't here for it. And I was like, you know what? And I comment on all those. I was like, oh, could never be. Can I be my man? You know what I mean? At least as far as, like, giving the birth part. You know what I mean, I never want to say could never be my man in certain things. But first, for the baby deliveries, we've.

[B]

Done it three times.

[A]

Yeah, you stayed up. We have it because so many people I talked to to will be like, oh, my husband went home or my husband fell asleep. Like if it was late at night or something. Like, oh, they fell asleep or they, you know, never once did you. Which was, you know, I, I acknowledge that you are. You're very superior when it comes to parenthood, I think, than most parents because you just know and you're just on it. I don't know how you have the energy.

[B]

I don't know either. But even this weekend, in general, I'm just high energy. Like, in general, it's not.

[A]

Yeah, just with the kids, when you're 10 years older than me, I was like, geez. I'm like, the energy you have is insane. I think that's what people think. We're the same age even in our real life. They're always like when I'm like, oh, yeah, Moses birthday. Like when I tell my age, like, it's crazy. You definitely feel younger than me.

[B]

But it's funny because we talked. We did a whole episode for Not Loveline Patreon and we talked in depth about our relationship. Yeah, so we did talk a lot about that. So it's like, oh, it was for.

[A]

The Not Loveline Patreon, just to be clear.

[B]

Yeah, it's interesting, like, to. I don't know, like, one thing we kind of learned from that is like, men need to be prepared for what's coming because it's like the woman goes through nine months of body changing, hormonal changes, like so much and uncomfort and pain and stress and also worry, you know, for the day of the birth. And the day of the birth is such a. I mean, the pain alone, the worry, it's like. And I remember the first time going in, like, not knowing what's going to happen, how it's going to happen. And sure enough, we ended up with like emergency C section. It's like so, so much going on. And then your body crashes into like, you know, hormonal change. There's. And your life changes completely because now you have a baby that's there 24 7. That's it. That will never change. And some people get stressed about it and postpartum and all that. So learning for the men. Yeah, for the men to not be ready that your partner is going to go through a lot. You don't need to seek attention at that point, you need to give the attention, you need to care, you need to be present. You need to be able to do a lot more than you used to, no matter what you used to do before. Even if it was zero.

[A]

Yeah. Even, like, scientifically, the man will be better equipped to handle the changes as opposed to a woman who's, like, scientifically, like, changing and can't control it. Like, it was scary. I would say both my first and my third pregnant delivery, I had, like, really bad postpartum. And, like, I didn't even know. Even with Aquaman, like, some, like, just, like, out of nowhere would just have these really awful moments. And I'm just like. And you're like, you can. You, like, hang on. You almost can kind of undersea, like, understand it and see it happening. And you're just like, I can't. Like, I can't control this. Like, it's like, it's. It's very surreal. But, yeah, I mean, if you. Like you said, if you're. If you're cheating on your wife right after she just gave life to your child, like, she is the reason your child is there. Like, and probably, like I said, like, half the time they're feeding your child. Like, a lot of times, like, when women breastfeed, probably half the population or more breastfeeds, like, they're feeding your child, like, with that body that you're like, I'm just gonna go cheat. Because a lot of people said that we're no longer attracted to their wives either. And after they've given birth, and I'm like, I mean, your body changes, but if you're like a man that leaves your wife because her body changed is crazy. That.

[B]

And that was the other thing we talked about, was the foundation for marriage. Can't be just around. Yeah, there's a few things. Some people get together because they like the same vices, like the. Oh, I love to drink, you love to drink. We're having fun together or smoking or whatever, anything else. So. And. And the other side of it, too, is, like, attraction. If you don't know that one day your partner is going to change in age and those kind of things. It just all. To me, it all sounds childish, but I am older, too, so. Yeah, but it is a very childish perspective of what relationships are or what your wife's.

[A]

I think it's like, older men, too. I think it's men in their 30s and their 40s that are doing this, too. I mean, it's like, I looked up. I did look up like divorce rates in like their 40s and it's like, like yeah, three to four years after having a baby is like the highest for yeah, that's always is like. Thank you so much to Mint Mobile for sponsoring's episode of Just Trish. You know you don't have to let big wireless and your overpriced phone bill suck the joy out of the holidays this year. Because right now all of Mint Mobile's Unlimited plans are 50% off. You can get 3, 6 or 12 months of unlimited premium wireless for 15 bucks a month. It's their best deal of the year and makes it real easy for you to give your expensive wireless bill the Scrooge treatment. Mint Mobile's best deal of the year is happening right now. All Mint plans come with a high speed data and unlimited talk and text on the nation's largest 5G network. You can bring your current phone and number over to Mint. No contracts and no knocks. Nonsense. This is a great option if you're planning to switch over. Not as a super affordable compared to other providers. You can also bring your phone number over which is super important because a lot of times when you're logging in and you forget your password, you have need codes. It's usually sent to the phone number that you signed up with. And a lot of times if you don't have access that number, you're just out of luck. So make sure you hold on to that number. And if you're looking to switch Mint Mobile, you can keep that phone number and get great rates. Also a great gift this holiday season. Turn your expensive wireless present into a huge wireless savings feature by switching to Mint Shop. Mint unlimited [e-mail] Trish that's mintmobile.com T R I S H Limited time offer up front of 45 for three months, $90 for six months or 180 for 12 months. Plan required 15 month equivalent taxes and fees extra initial plan term Only greater than 35 gigabytes. May slow when network is busy. Capable device required. Availability, speed and coverage varies. See mintmobile.com for details. Thank you so much to Mint Mobile for sponsoring today's episode or my favorite couple that I don't know if this is a hot topic or not, but like I loved this couple so much. I never we watched Love is Blind like here and there. We don't watch all the seasons but there was like a season like maybe four, maybe three seasons ago. There was a couple named Alexa and Brennan and I like love them. I like follow them. They just had Like a baby, like a year ago. And they got divorced. And I was like, they were such a good couple but I will say I was a fan of them. But I was watching clips that resurfaced on Tick Tock of like the reunion and they were giving so much to Cole. Was that his name? Remember like judging specifically Brennan not trying to like you know, make a monster of the man, but Brennan was this like dude that's like not cool. Like you're not a man and stuff like that. But now that more divorce, the details of their divorce is coming out. It's not. You know, most people when they check divorce, what do they check? It's like irreconcilable differences. This was like, well no, I don't know what it was but it was something that wasn't that. I can't think of what it was. I have to like Jimmy, maybe you can insert it something where it's like never getting back together basically. And you're just like, that's so weird. And she had said like he was, he was basically misusing funds was like this whole like it got like. So then you're kind of giving side eyes sometimes you're just like, that's why I never want to be like too above anything because you just never know when things can flip. A year like you just had gave birth a year and they were so like loving. They have like this beautiful little girl that they share. It's like it just like it makes me sad for sure. But just like I guess that's why they stay together three to four years before the divorce. It's like because it's hard to like. But then if your guy's cheating on you while you just had a baby, I don't know. What do you do? Not saying that with Alexa and Brenna, but yeah.

[B]

And imagine you're in postpartum and you have to deal with that at the.

[A]

Same time and then you're like alone. Because here's the other thing. I will always say this. When parents get divorced, like the moms usually get full custody and they probably want the full custody but it's like then the dads could just go be part time dads. They just get them on the weekends and they had to have their week and then go see my baby on the weekend. Maybe it's not ideal for anybody but it is like the mom seemed to also take on most of the work because then all of a sudden the dad's up and gone cuz he cheated and you're just like, now I have. Now I have work and the baby and it's just like, I guess they. I saw a quote today that's like, don't worry about having babies late or marrying late or something. It's just like, worry about marrying the right one or having babies with the right one. And I think, I think that is the most important thing. But you just never know. At the end of the day, you really don't know. I mean, you could have like the perfect relationship and it could. It could switch. But yeah, the men cheating and blaming postpartum does not fly with me. I don't think that's an excuse. You can have postpartum for sure. I don't think it. One of those, you know, reflections is cheating. I never heard of a woman postpartum be like, I really need to go cheat. It's always like, how am I going to stay alive, basically. But anyways, Alexa, Brandon, I'm very sad about that also. You shouldn't be judging other couples. But love is blind. It's a show at the end of the day.

[B]

I know somehow it relates to blind. You remember we talked about the Waymo cars? The cars that drive themselves?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Did you see Esther? Esther.

[A]

Oh, what were you going to say? Esther. You know Esther from Trash Tuesday?

[B]

Yeah. What happened to her?

[A]

Her rainbow got in an accident. While she was in it.

[C]

No.

[A]

And she was filming it. And there's like a person that comes up and is like, hi, we're trying to fix your Waymo. Basically, the camera got smashed because they were on a little street. And she takes. She says she takes Waymos all the time. And she doesn't know why they went up this little street. They went up the little street and, like, a truck was trying to go past it and, like, smashed the camera in the back, basically.

[B]

So now it's missing a sensor.

[A]

Yeah. So they got her another Waymo. They're like, we're calling another Waymo T right now. But she's like, what happens to that Waymo? But it's really interesting. So she has to, like, sit in the car and be like, talking to, like, basically a customer service person being.

[B]

Like, well, whenever you text Waymo on your phone, it's. It corrects it to Wayne.

[A]

O way.

[B]

No way. No. Anyway, so somebody was. Somebody called a Waymo for their daughter. And as she was getting into the car, she noticed there's a man in the trunk of the car. It's like a hatchback. So you can reach from the back of the car to the back seat. And she's looking there and there's a man there. And they're like, what are you doing there? They're like, oh, I don't know. They put me here. Couldn't get out. I'm star. Like, something weird.

[A]

Oh, here in the U.S. yeah.

[B]

They're only here. Yeah. Probably San Francisco.

[A]

Oh, why San Francisco?

[B]

Because I think that's where they started. Or San Jose, but that's where they started. Now they're. Now they're going to start here soon. But there was a man in the trunk.

[A]

And then what? What they say? What was the.

[B]

Well, luckily they saw him before she got into the car.

[A]

Oh, hell no. Yeah, I guess I could be the same for Uber is always check the backseat. Can I tell you, even in my car, I always check the backseat. When I used to go to church on Sundays, like, what was it called? Like, catechism. It was like, basically Sunday school. But I guess when you're, like, older, they always have, like, speakers come and like. Like, I just remember someone being like, someone in the backseat. Someone was in the backseat and they like of her car while she was pumping gas and it got in the backseat somehow. So now I always, always am, like, checking the back seat. You should always do that anyways, I guess. But I guess that makes sense. In a waymo, I guess. How do they know you got out? Hello.

[B]

We waited. We saved.

[A]

We saved a hot topic for you. Oh, wow. Okay. You look good. You look great. Thank you. So sorry for all the chaos today. Oh, my God. Just 5,000 things happening. How are you?

[B]

You look great.

[A]

How are you doing? Sorry, I know it's, like, late. Is it late? Do you feel late? I feel like it's late.

[B]

Well, he's been going out every night. It's just another night out for him.

[C]

My voice is so gone as well. I was trying to be on vocal. I know. I was on vocal rest today, except it sounds good.

[A]

Are you okay, though?

[C]

Yeah, yeah. I just was screaming a lot. But I was on vocal rest, but Darian was rage baiting me a lot, so my vocal rest was, like, not successful.

[A]

I kind of love this. Wait, who do you sound like? Oh, God. You sound okay. It's gonna come to me.

[C]

I'm scared.

[A]

Oh, you sound. Well, luckily it's a short one. We have 90 minutes, so you have a short one today. It sounds good. Do you feel okay?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Just the voice.

[C]

What were you screaming?

[A]

You went two nights in a row.

[C]

I went two nights in a row to Cat's Eye, which was the time of my life. I'm. This is the first time.

[A]

So different.

[C]

This is the first time.

[B]

Try to sing some Jojo Siwa songs.

[C]

Oh, wait. Oh, my God, I can't eat that.

[A]

You sound like someone.

[C]

Let us know in the comments.

[A]

Tony, I'm done. No, you sound like someone.

[C]

I'm so dead.

[A]

God, that is so crazy. Who you sound like, I don't know.

[C]

But yes, I went to Cat's Eye two nights in a row the first night. Whereas the tickets that you got me.

[A]

For my birthday, shout out SeatGeek, our sponsor today.

[C]

That was. Yeah. And it was crazy because it felt like so long ago. Like, when you. Like when you gave me those tickets, I was like, december is so far. And then it came, like, kind of out of nowhere.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But, yeah, I went on Friday to the LA show, and then the day that you gave me the tickets, they added the second date, and I was able to get tickets to that date. And then you gave me the tickets, like, later in the afternoon. And I was like, well, I guess I'm going twice.

[A]

Oh, because you didn't know.

[C]

Yes, because I got the tickets for the second night before you hashtag gifted me tickets. Yeah.

[A]

Okay. That you just loved it so much.

[C]

I'm going to go back. Which, honestly, yeah, everyone is that.

[A]

We had the Holly Hollywood Millennium.

[C]

Yep. That was night two.

[A]

And that's.

[C]

Everyone was there.

[A]

Ezra was there. I saw Ezra there. I saw everyone there.

[C]

I was like, okay, yeah, the girls and gays and these were kind of the best ever. The best ever. Night one, we had seats, thanks to you. And then night two was, like, standing. So night two was a little bit rough. And it was like I realized I'm just. Yeah. It's like a massive room and everyone's just standing.

[A]

Oh.

[C]

And I saw, like, tick tocks, like, from the night before, people camping out, like, to get in for. And I was, like, really nervous because it was so intense, but I was like, you know what? Like, let me just go and be free and have fun. And I'm so glad I did. Night one, I wore my Trisha shirt. And then we had the photo op after.

[A]

Oh, wait, what?

[C]

Yeah, so there's like, they do photo op. It's a little diabolical, though, because, like, it's not like a meet and greet. It's literally a photo op. They're on little stools, and then you walk in, they wave at you as you walk in, and then they take the photo and then yell at the. Yell. Not the girls. Their team, like, yells at you to leave.

[A]

It's a love and shove. I think it's AJ from the back. Your boy said.

[C]

And it's 12. It's just 12 people. Like, it doesn't matter who you came with. Like, it's 12 people in one photo. In one photo. Yes. It's a little diabolical because when I read it, I was like, a group up to 12 people is, like, what I thought. But it's like 12 people. You're in there with, like, strangers.

[B]

It's like Benihana.

[C]

Yes, it is. Like, Benny, Hana, good luck. So true.

[A]

Oh, no, you didn't post the picture.

[C]

They send it to us like, a week later. So I don't even have them yet. Yeah.

[A]

Oh, I want to see.

[C]

I'm so curious. So night one, we did the photo op. Because both my tickets had the photo op and Manal was sick, so she, like, barely got better enough to perform. But she didn't do the photo op. But still I wore my Trisha shirt and I walked in and, like, the girls are so sweet. Like, they wave and they say hi and just like, like compliment you. And then Sophia pointed out my shirt. Immediately she had the shirt. And then Lara looks over and was like, I need that shirt. And I was like, it was such a hit.

[A]

Did they recognize you?

[B]

Okay, so did you take the shirt off and give it to her?

[C]

Honestly, I thought about it. I thought about it. You might too. I was like, people did that to.

[A]

Me at being green. Like, take the shirt.

[C]

I obviously was like, should I just throw them in a shirt? And then. So it was kind of a gag. And I was like, wait, it would be gaggy if I show up again tomorrow in another Trisha shirt. And that's what I did. You did?

[A]

I didn't see the second one.

[C]

Well, the second one is like a baby girl tee, so it's tighter. So I like, went with my cat's eye tee. And then after the show, I switched quick change into my Trisha shirt for the photo op. And it was such a hit again because I think it was so gaggy that they're like. Because Sophia saw me first again. She went, oh. And then she looked at me. She's like, wait, you're back. And then I see that Lara again. And then Manal was at the photo op for night two, and this is when I kind of blacked out. I was like, right behind her is, like, where they yelled at me to stand. And then she turns around, she goes, I like your shirt. And then she looks at my face. She goes, oh, my gosh. Hey. And I was like, yes.

[A]

Oh, my God. Okay. We love Best night ever. I love the Nah Nation hat. I can't find it. I went to go look for it, and I was like, where do they sell it?

[C]

Like, I couldn't buy it.

[A]

No.

[C]

Because it's a custom. I have no idea.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

But I was like, we'll do a swap. Like, we'll give you a tee if you give us.

[A]

I'll send all the tees. We don't know where we got it from, but we'll find it on some red bubble. Wherever it was from.

[C]

Yeah. Because night two was the I'm canceled again. The one I wore to Trishma's.

[A]

Yeah, that one was great.

[C]

And I feel like the girls can relate to that because everyone's always on their necks these days.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

But I was like, once she, like, clocked me, I was like. I was, like, so gagged. Also, I got separated from Darian in that photo because he's short. So I put him. It was a mess.

[A]

They said short people in front.

[C]

Yes, it was a mess. And also there was two, like, really hot gays and that luckily they're on the complete other end.

[A]

Oh, okay. So you can crop them.

[C]

Yes. And also, I'm like. I'm right. I'm at the end right behind the na. So I can, like, crop it. So it's just.

[B]

So you're.

[A]

Oh, so you're. I thought you guys were in front of them.

[C]

They're, like, on bar stool. Like, stools. And then we're standing two rows of people behind them.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

It is a crazy photo. And it feels like the airport kind of, because, like, there's so many people yell at you. Like, line up, line up. Come on, Come in. Hurry up. Faster. And then no, 12 people. And it was, like, so crazy. And you have to put, like, all your stuff on a table and then go in. Then they're yelling at you. Take out your bag phones here. Like, they. It literally feels like tsa.

[A]

And then.

[C]

And then you put. And then they're, like, yelling at you to run in, get the photo. The girls are so sweet and, like, trying to get as much time, but, like, everyone's, like, yelling at you.

[A]

Oh, I had to, like, let go. So many people at my meet and greets that. Because people would, like, scream at them. Like, there was. It was only one show, and I was like, that lady needs to go. Because sometimes what they do is, like, I don't know for cat's eye, but, like, with mine, they have, like, local hire sometimes to help the line. And there was this one lady I was like, I don't know if you were there or not. They were, like, screaming at the people, like, move, get out. Move. Like, after, like, literally a second, like, they were hijacked. No, move it. I'm like, oh, my. And I literally had to tell the lady, like, you need to chill, because that was crazy. So I think. Yeah, that is annoying when they have, like, a bad.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, how many people do you know?

[C]

It's a lot, so I understand why. Yeah, because it was like, I think 300, so.

[A]

Oh, they met everybody that came to the show.

[C]

No, it's like the VI. The VIP package. It was like, 300 people. Yeah, it was a lot.

[B]

They do 12 at a time, so 10 times. It's 120 people.

[A]

Okay. Yeah. Well, the way they have it. I get it, too. I get it, too. Like, obviously, like, you'll be talking to.

[B]

Everyone, but you'll meet, like, 75 people, and you give each one a lot of time.

[A]

Do we know?

[B]

So in their case, it would be like, a thousand people.

[C]

Like, plus, they have, like, the meet and greet from, like, people from, like, the label or whatever, you know, like, the first night, Robin Thicke was in front of me and.

[A]

Wait, what? In a mean greet.

[C]

He sat right in front of me on night one. And then they had, like. I could tell they had the, like, friends and family, like, meet and greet right before that. Northwest and Kim Kardashian were there. So they had a meet and greet before our meeting.

[A]

Yeah, usually I meet friends and family.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Do you. Did you. Did you say anything like, oh, I was Entertainment Tonight with you guys?

[C]

No, because it's so, like.

[A]

So, like, not even a minute.

[C]

Not even a minute. And, like, after Manal, like, clocked me, then we have to pose right away. I don't know where I was looking. I don't know what pose I was doing.

[A]

I can't wait to see this.

[C]

Like, I. Full disclosure, that photo is going to be so retouched and so facetuned, and I literally want no one to be like, we want to see the real you. No. Like, that is going to be. No, it is going to have, like, a completely different. Like, I'm going to take my face from a different photo.

[A]

Face swap.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Because I am so concerned about all 12 people, honestly.

[A]

Tea.

[B]

So it's all I was gonna say.

[A]

One of those people have an untouched photo of you, and it'll be out there.

[C]

Anyone can access the, like, they send a link to the photos.

[A]

Oh.

[C]

And I think it's just like on their website.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Literally anyone can get it and, like, clock me. The gag is I don't even care because all I care about is the one I'm posting where it's like me standing behind Manal and I'm gonna look gorgeous. If you're right behind her, I'm gonna crop it. I'm gonna look gorgeous. I'm gonna look like a completely different person. And I'm like, at peace me with. With that.

[A]

Okay, so was there an upgrade? Like, can you pay a little more to get like, individual.

[C]

No, there was only like GA or like vip. And even when I bought my ticket, because the. For the vi. The ones that you bought, I didn't even know it had like, follow up and everything. But I think just like any seat, kind of like Trishmash, I guess like any seat in, like, the certain sections is like vip.

[A]

Got it. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. Do you know how much it was?

[C]

Not that it was like 200 so.

[A]

Or like 15. I found out I share a lot of fans with Addison and I found out I did. Like, everyone's like, I right here, like two months ago. Brian. Shout out. Brian Dakota. Seen her 27 times. Yeah. He's like, but she brought me up on stage. I'm like, for 27 times, my God, you can come on tour with me and see on the bus. Her meet and greets are $1,000, but you get a sound bath with her.

[C]

Kind of worth it, I guess, right?

[A]

But it's kind of the gag is there was a one sweet girl who. She's come to a couple of my shows. I won't say her name just for privacy. Brian doesn't care. But like, she. She's come to a come my meet and greets and she did the Addison. And she goes, yep. And I said, so what is it? She's like, yeah, for 10 minutes you just sit in silence with Addison.

[C]

I'm like, oh, do you get like a photo with her?

[A]

Yeah, I guess afterwards you do get a photo, but that's not a lot of talking time. Just for like 10 minutes.

[C]

I'm like, in the same room.

[A]

I mean, it's kind of gaggy, but at the same time, a thousand Me next to her being like, here's a but anyways. Yeah. Yeah. I guess that's better than nothing because I think my Chemical Romance doesn't even do like a group photo, but yeah. Your photos are crazy, though.

[C]

I know it Was like a little diabolical because literally I saw the email said 12 people per photo and I was like, okay, well, it's just me and Darian, so we're good. And then I was talking and a lot of the girls knew, like, everyone kind of knows how it goes. So I was like asking them. I was like, so it's like 12 people per group and like, no, it's like you just get in a group. So then after that I was trying to like, look around. I'm like, okay, who do I want to like have in my photo?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Because I also didn't want like little kids because I would have felt weird because there's a lot of like their spectrum was like 10 year olds to like 40 year old or 50 year olds.

[A]

Oh, that is so awesome.

[C]

Yeah, it's a broad spectrum.

[A]

So it's like 10 year old girls and photos.

[C]

So I'm like, let me just find people who I look like I'd be in a group with, you know?

[A]

Oh, so you can stand next to the people you want to be with.

[C]

Yeah, they line you up and then like it literally just like they 1 through 12, like they almost like a ride at like Disneyland or something. Like, okay, go on. They cut you off each. Each group of 12. That's wild.

[A]

Guess we could all just gone as a group. Like if you Jimmy our memo. Our boyfriends. Yeah, that would have been.

[C]

We could add a just Trish group. Yep.

[A]

I like doing those. You have to wait in line.

[C]

Yeah, you wait in line.

[A]

Damn, you really were.

[C]

Yeah. And the Q and A. Like there's a Q and A. And again, very Trish miscoded. There's a Q and A and sound check, like before the show that starts like at 6. They go on at 8:30.

[A]

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[C]

So it's just like. It's a long night. Like, it was six hours of Cat's Eye, which was a blessing.

[A]

You loved it?

[C]

I love them so much. Like, I love the performances, and they're all very sweet, and, like, they were crying both nights because they were just, like, so thankful. It was so sweet.

[A]

Yeah, because they're so fresh. Because my makeup artist, Ari, is, like, a huge fan. Her and her daughter actually went the night of Man San Francisco show. Like, she did my makeup before, and we had shows at the same time, and she literally was like, okay, we're gonna go off to Cat's Eye. I was like, okay, I'm in the makeup state. So I was like, yeah, but they, like, love, love, love Cat's Eye. But they were saying something like, they don't even have, like, enough songs to do.

[C]

Like, they really props to them because literally any song they have ever gone in a booth and recorded a line for, it was yes, every Monster High theme song. It's in the Satellite, the Milkshake Dance. It's in the set list. Like, I lit anything they've ever done, it's in the set list.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

So they gave it their all, and they added, like, dance breaks and stuff to like, make it longer as well.

[A]

Yeah. I heard the dancing wasn't phenomenal. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. And they are just, like, in their label is, like, kind of brilliant because, like, you would think for, like, a smaller show because they're playing, like, smaller theaters, like, 3, 000 people or whatever, which is insane. They're so popular, but they're set. Like, the pieces and the graphics and the package, everything was, like, so beautiful and, like, high, like, budget. Like, I felt like a arena tour, you know?

[A]

Yeah. I've seen, like, the the stuff behind them, like the lights and stuff like that.

[C]

Their creative team is like so brilliant and I love their outfits and I just. I love them so much. I love them so much.

[A]

Christmas and Cat's eye. We're giving one screen.

[C]

The fact that the girls live for you was like so funny.

[A]

Maybe just Manal.

[C]

No, because Sophia like, oh yeah. Sophia and Laura were really living for the her, I think mana because I. She responded to my dm so I think she just recognizes me. The guy, the boy with the glasses who is the sidekick. So I'm like, no.

[A]

First of all, she was the 12 to DM me. We love them. We've loved them since the beginning. I know. They. They really are everything. I know I. I given up even dming because it's kind of like Addison too. It's like once you're like a certain level of fame curse.

[C]

We're like, we really. We're on them early but then just blow up too fast because literally like the. During their sound check, they're like, okay, you guys, one second. We have to do a photo shoot with Vogue really quick. And then like during the sound check, Vogue comes out on stage and like does a photo shoot. They're gonna be at the freaking Met gala. Like they're just. They've blown up too fast. I think. So like the Grammy nomination. They're like, They've blown up so much.

[A]

This Grammys are so tight. Cuz they're best new artist.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Who's winning, Addison? Cat's eye or Alex Warren?

[C]

I. I'm thinking it's gonna be Olivia Dean.

[A]

Oh, I don't even know her.

[C]

She. She has that song Man I need. I feel like you haven't heard it. It's kind of a tick tock song. But she's very like, oh, don't be the man. Yes. She kind of has that like okay vibe. I feel like she's kind of like timeless. And I feel like Grammys usually go for like that kind of artist. But Cat's Eyes has been doing a lot of Grammys event. Like they did the Grammys concert at like the Grammy museum and stuff. So did Addison. So the girls are putting in the work for that Grammy.

[A]

I'm definitely for a Cat's Eye Addison. I have a feeling. I feel like Alex Warren because that ordinary song they'd be putting. But they like do it. We told you if we have a baby shark playlist, it's Alex Warren first. Like literally this summer. Yes. Every time we had a different playlist, it was Always him. And not to say whatever. I thought we had a similar face. Fan base. I like did it at Alex Warren shout out and everyone's just like. But then asking way. So then I asked Nas, my photographer. I love her so much. And she was like, I don't think you guys have the same fame, but it's am. I mean, Alex Horn, she's like, no, I think it's like 40 year old Mormon moms. And I was like, no, I did not know that. I thought it was like hype house that is in. Right. You know, I was very. I was very mistaken about that.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

But I hope. I hope it's a Cat's eye or Addison or Olivia Dean. I like that song. I like know that song.

[C]

So yeah, I think, I mean it. The race is kind of crazy for best new artists this year. Honestly. Grammys in general. I have literally no clue how anything's gonna go, but.

[A]

Well, I'm on that red carpet. I'll get Cat's Eye interview. I'll be like, oh, Manon, right here. It's coming soon, right?

[C]

Yeah, February.

[A]

It'll be here before my date is cleared. I cleared out all the awards and dates. Yes.

[C]

Because I have another mix up.

[A]

I was supposed to be at the Grammys last year. I was like, ah. And so this year I'm going to make sure I get there.

[C]

We need it to happen. We need it to happen.

[A]

Figure it out the way. Well, I'm glad you're here. Is this a. Is this a cat's eye shirt?

[C]

Oh yeah, this is a cat's eye jersey.

[A]

You look great in the pants. Like I had a little new person.

[C]

Yeah, I know. I bought like big pants. Cuz the Cat's eye.

[A]

I love them. They're really. You should do an outfit of the day because you came with these like huge flare. It look good. You look like. Is that what they wear? Cuz Ari's daughter wear pants like this too. Okay.

[C]

Yeah, I was like. I was truly. They're influencers. I was truly. I love that cuz like they do make you look so teensy. Like they're like tight around the waist and then the flare. Very Y2K.

[A]

Yeah, you can bring those back. Well, from one crazy meet and greet to another, our Trish cruise might not be happening. I feel like, you know, everyone asked me about it because. Did we talk about it on the podcast or did I tell you? I was telling everybody. I was telling glam. I was telling dancers, I was telling everyone. Guys, we're doing a Cruise now, next year.

[B]

Like, and then it kind of just chat every time. Every video in our chat, they're like, when is the cruise?

[A]

Yeah, I. We waited to talk to you about this. This is me was like the hot topic. And I just can't wait because I don't know, we have. Okay, we don't have that. So I was just like, oh, okay. So every and everyone, like, Jeremy, everyone's like, oh my God, when is the cruise? We're so excited. And I was like, I don't know. It's like one of those things you like, don't hear from. I'm like, maybe they're putting it together because you remember they gave us a full itinerary. Like, we had events. Event scheduled. We had like Bolognese night on the cruise. We had a Benihana night on the cruise. Like, we had like so specific Trish things. There was gonna be like a just Trish podcast live on the cruise. Like, there was just gonna be so many things happening. Performances every night. I was so excited and I was like, oh, it's kind of weird to fizzle them. Like, well, maybe.

[B]

Maybe show him or.

[A]

No. Well, he. Well, no, I think he knows. He was bringing up the notes, right?

[C]

No.

[A]

You have no notes about the cruise? No, about a cruise.

[C]

I heard inklings of a JoJo.

[A]

JoJo Siwa has a crowd.

[B]

There's a whole thing.

[C]

They swapped you for Jojo.

[A]

Okay. Yes. I'm not trying to be Moses over here being like Kim Kardashian copies me. But look, I know they probably did have like this. I mean, there's probably ways to just insert people because I think like Burt Kreischer has cruises. Like, I think there is ways to just like insert anyone into a cruise. But because not me being in Competition with a 22 year old. Be like, oh my God, me and Jojo. But because I think me and JoJo are relatively similar kind of. I was just like, no, because it was like, I thought maybe I just like wasn't cool enough or whatever like that. Now, I'm not saying JoJo is very cool. I'm not saying she's not deserving of it, but it really did. Even the itinerary. Maybe it's more for kids. I don't know who's.

[B]

I think the target market is different.

[A]

They're like, you can make bows with Jojo. And I was like, like, yeah. I was like, okay. And she does performances and stuff. So she is doing a full on cruise, Royal Caribbean next year. I was like, I don't think my cruise is happening anymore. I don't think the Trish cruise is happening. It was so done. Like, not done, but it was just like they had a full plan. And I was like, so. And I feel like our audience are cruisers, right? Because I'm. I'm a millennial. Do you know what I mean?

[C]

I think our audience loves cruising.

[A]

I love cruises, for sure. It could be a combination of all the cruise people, you know, the gay cruisers, the. The millennial cruisers. Like, I don't know, water people who love water. It would have been solit. I was so excited for our cruise. But JoJo Siwa is going on a cruise, which is, you know, kudos to her. I just was like, so can't there.

[C]

Be more than one cruise?

[A]

No.

[C]

Oh, they said.

[A]

They said only one cruise. One pop star a year on that cruise. And I also was just like. Cause you remember her VIP was like, 900, and it was like, oh, my.

[C]

God, eat pizza with her.

[A]

Eat pizza and, like, set up. Remember? I was like, help me set up. Yeah, check my drums for me. Like, I, like, help us load.

[C]

I forgot.

[A]

But I don't think it ever happened because I wanted. I was like, what happened to that?

[C]

I don't think it ever happened. She canceled that tour, I think.

[A]

Did she?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So maybe not hoping for it, but if she does cancel, maybe I could come in last minute. Maybe I'm the replacement in case she can't. You never know. Yeah. You never know what happens. I wish I. Well, honestly, no, it's a flex. I was gagged. Right. I saw everybody with the news. I was kind of like, all right, good for her. Honestly, I love it. I love a JoJo. Maybe we'll go on it.

[B]

Not me.

[A]

Okay. You would.

[C]

I mean, not, like, I wouldn't pay for it.

[A]

I have someone come with me. I would go on it if I had the, like, the time. I mean, our kids are probably too young, but I would go on it. I love how they're also, like, using her old JoJo image, like, the bows and stuff like that, to market this. So they must be targeting getting, like, oh, yeah, kids or something, and their parents.

[B]

Right? So then they have to get their parents to come on board, too. That's.

[A]

Yeah, that. That would make sense. Cruises are not cheap. Cruises were fun. I went on, like, one cruise. No, I went on two cruises, and they're fun. I wonder where it's going. Do we know?

[B]

They didn't say maybe in the text.

[A]

That's crazy. You just, like, book a cruise and you don't know where you're going?

[B]

I'm sure they tell you where you're going. Oh, so they said the cruise fair starts from eleven hundred dollars per person.

[A]

Okay, not bad.

[B]

But it starts there, so that's probably the basic. And then it doesn't say.

[A]

It usually includes food and stuff though too.

[B]

Right?

[A]

That's not a bad cost.

[B]

Food and drinks and stuff.

[A]

I'm happy for JoJo.

[B]

But yeah, it doesn't say where it's going.

[A]

First cast member.

[C]

CocoCay island is where it goes.

[A]

Cococay island, where is that?

[B]

It's where Jojo Siwa was born.

[C]

Oh, wait, I guess like Bora Bora.

[A]

Oh, okay. Where's it departing from? Bora Bora so far? Like it's eight hour flight.

[C]

Oh, I have no idea.

[B]

So are they going out from the East Coast? You mean like from Florida?

[C]

Get a taste of Bora Bora. So they're. I guess they're having Bora Bora themed stuff.

[A]

Oh, I love that. That's kind of everything.

[C]

It's the Bahamas.

[A]

Oh, wait, what? Why don't they just call it a Bahamas cruise? That's also desirable. That's so weird. Like, the Bahamas is cute. It's lit. Why are they calling it a Taste of Bora Bora? That's so odd. Okay, maybe Chris Hughes will be there. Like, I don't know, it kind of sounds like fun. And even if it's not fun, like, even if it's like a disaster, like, that's kind of fun too, right?

[C]

Oh my God, like the Netflix, like poop Cruise one.

[A]

That's crazy. Did we ever talk about that? You're like the second person who told me about this poop cruise.

[C]

I started the documentary, but it made me a little sick.

[A]

So to know. Yeah, it's giving that from what I've heard about it. Or like Fire Cruise. No. Yeah. Not JoJo. But I'm just saying, like when things go wrong, I guess if people get hurt, it's like not funny. But like, if it's just a little bit kind of like the Oompa Loompa thing. If it's just kind of fun.

[C]

Oh yeah.

[A]

If it's just.

[C]

I feel like cruises are kind of hard to mess up because at least the boat has like. Yeah, stuff.

[A]

But what about the poo cruise? What happened? There just.

[C]

It was like a plumbing. Actually there was a fire in like one little one room and then it caused like the power to go out and then the plumbing. Something happened to the plumbing that they.

[A]

Couldn'T use, probably didn't work and did poo overflow.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

That's so crazy. In people's rooms. Yeah, that's crazy.

[C]

What do you mean? The restroom.

[A]

But like, did they get sued to oblivion? Like, what do you mean? There was.

[C]

I didn't finish the documentary, so I don't know what happened to.

[B]

It's like cruise is like a flight, you know, the most. They'll give you credit for something else.

[C]

Actually, I do know too, because there was a case on. There's a true crime case on a cruise recently. Like the laws around suing in a cruise, like, because when. When cruising was becoming a thing, like the government made it basically harder to sue them. There's like all these laws and stuff where it's hard to sue out, like on the open water or whatever.

[A]

Yeah, like international waters. I've heard that too. There's like no like, like law, basically. There's no, like, no one to call. Like, who do you call? You're in the middle of the ocean, like.

[C]

Yeah. And there's lawyers specifically to represent, like, clients who want to sue cruises because it is so hard to get money from them for, like, even something like a wrongful death. Even, like, it's so hard to get money.

[A]

So don't go on a cruise.

[C]

Unless it's the church cruise.

[A]

Unless it's the tr. Yeah, I know. Maybe it's for the better. We didn't have. But I was so excited. It felt so real. I wish I could show you guys the itinerary. It was like Trish themed. Everything was so fun. I could not. I couldn't wait. Well, maybe this will be a success. Honestly, I hope JoJo's a success. That way they will pick me next. I don't mind being second fiddle after Jojo for sure. She can try it out, test it out, be great, you know?

[C]

Yeah, well, yeah.

[A]

They've already casted him for a white lotus. Did you see that?

[C]

I heard that people were circling roles, but there hasn't been a. I mean.

[A]

I think Helen born Carter is like, like confirmed without being confirmed. Because that was on, you know, it's real. If it's like Pop Crave, I think Pop Tings doesn't know as much, but I think Pop Crane seems to know because I saw that a lot and wouldn't that be a gag?

[C]

Yeah, that makes sense.

[A]

Crazy. Who else did the other ones?

[C]

Gosh. From the Grinch.

[A]

Jim. Harry.

[C]

God, the girl. Let me get her name.

[A]

Taylor Momson.

[C]

Not Taylor Momson.

[A]

Oh, oh. Christy Bransky is That real? Do people just make it up? Cuz now people are just like, Charlie xcx. Like they're just like saying. I mean, maybe Charlie XCX trades.

[C]

Like it's all like been like so and so is circling or like in talks. But like it could go in talks. Can go like a lot of.

[A]

I thought that's pretty legit if it's in talks.

[C]

No, it could like fall apart, like contractually, like scheduling or something. So we'll see.

[A]

All right. I love her. I was really like, oh, yeah. There's like no greater person for the show.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I like Christian Baranski too, though. Both. They're both queens.

[C]

I'm not losing hope though, because from what I've seen in your acting experience, you kind of get added. You know, they announce everything and then you get thrown in there.

[A]

So that's true. Maybe like a lot of euphoria.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yes, yes, very.

[C]

Like the second wave of casting. I guess so.

[A]

Yeah, that's right. It was the last wave.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yes, I know. We're doing that. I was explaining before you got here. We're doing this tonight because tomorrow I have to be on set at 4:00am yeah. Crazy. I guess because the days are getting shorter, so they need the daylight, I guess. Yeah. I was like. But I am in my acting era and I have a big scene tomorrow. I'm very big scene. So I need to like prepare for it tonight. But I was preparing for it on the plane too. But I'm down to still be in it. But I don't know, Carter. I was like, well, I mean, there's really no competing or joining. I can't act next to that. That'd be crazy.

[C]

You can't. You're amongst legends these days.

[A]

That's true. Yeah, actually, that's true. Right, okay, you're right. But she actually wouldn't take me to me, there's very few people who would. And I feel like she would intimidate me and I think only her. I wouldn't think of anyone else that I would be intimidated by, but just her. I love her. Like, I feel like I haven't talked about my obsession with her for a long time. But like Clockett, I've done her in Fight Club, I've done her in Sweeney Todd. Like, I love her.

[C]

She's iconic.

[A]

Yeah. Like, I really do. I had like a whole era about her, but I never really got the same praise because I was. What is it called? Internally misogynistic for a long period of minutes. I feel that where I like, really want to be here. But I was like not gonna acknowledge it.

[C]

Cause I'm like, no, it's a woman.

[A]

But like. And when I watched me Todd, I was like, johnny Depp, he's amazing. Alan Rickman, he's great. Even the guy who plays Vecna, so great. But like, I would never acknowledge Helen Bonkar, who was the real star. What's his name? Jamie Campbell, he's great in that. But Helen Bonkar was a star because she plays Mrs. Lovett and she's the best. But I was just. I was just such a hater. I was like, like, no, but she's great anyways. Well, I don't know who I'm more jealous of, Helen Bonkart or JoJo getting the cruise. I don't know. Thank you so much to SeatGeek for sponsoring today's episode of Just Trish. Okay, over the weekend, Oscar just saw Cat's Eye not once, but twice. I'm looking forward to seeing My Chemical Romance when they continue their Black Parade tour. Hey, guess what? I'm currently on tour. Trish Miss in Vancouver, come see me. Maybe you didn't get those front row tickets, but SeatGeek just might have your back. With over 35 million downloads, SeatGeek is the number one rated ticketing app. There are more than 70,000 events listed on SeatGeek, including concert, sports, festivals and more. It is the the perfect holiday gift if you ask me. What is better than the gift of entertainment and experience, if you will. You can also get tickets to the Backstreet Boys, Cardi B, Zara Larson, Chris Stapleton, Riley Green, the Jingle Ball, Rod Wave and more. Seeking has your back. Each ticket is rated on a scale of 1 to 10. So you know you're getting a good deal. So look for the green dots because green means good and red means bad. Plus every ticket is backed by their buyer guarantee. They have great customer support. I know this from experience. You can also search by price or bestie in the house or best deal. Sometimes those last minute day of deals, that's where they're at. With the holiday season just around the corner. Give the gift of tickets this year and use code TRISH2025 or 10% off your SeatGeek tickets. That's 10% off tickets with promo code TRISH2025. TRISH2025. Make sure you click the link in the description to download the app and have the code automatically added to your account so you can use it later. Thank you so much to SeatGeek for sponsoring today's.

[C]

Episode related. I guess I am obsessed with the fact that like the week Jordan Firstman is here, like the day later he gets canceled.

[A]

I was texting him today. Well, he was texting me. I panicked so much. I panicked so much when I first saw it because, okay, that day, December 11th, which was our anniversary, was the day the Jordan episode came out. He's also on Kelly Clarkson that day.

[C]

I was like, oh my God, doing so much press. So much.

[A]

I know. Then the Vulture article came out that day. So all the things happened that day. And then I saw all the heat for heated rivalry and I was just like, oh my gosh. And I was like, was that that on our podcast is like, gosh, when people come on our podcast, it's always like making news for like the wrong reason. Well, anyways, I didn't think about it. I was like, you know what? No, it can I have been ours. Like I feel if anything we were talking about how I was like, you should have more sex on your show because he did rivalry to bumped them down. I love LA because I changed the title. Well, then he texted me today on this flight that I was like on a 12 hour delay. It was like so insane. He texted me. He's like, oh my gosh. Like, are you able to like edit anything out of the podcast? And I was like, but I'm like, oh. I'm like, I don't. I don't think it was on our podcast. And he's like, are you sure? And I was like. Then I saw an article. I was like, he said in Vulture.

[C]

I think it was the Vulture. Yeah.

[A]

And I was like. And he's like, okay, okay. He goes, I just don't want people to go there. And whatever. I'm like, no. And I actually not to be because I'm his friend, but I was like. I actually remember talking to him last week about it and how he. He liked it. So I do think obviously, whatever. But it just happens, Rachel. Santa gets heat to us. Like people just get heat once they start getting like fame. You know what I mean? But I thought it was ours. I was like, oh my gosh. And then I was like, no, no, no. And if anything, Jimmy, you always. You always know to like we're always overly PC over here and woke. We try not to. No gay on gay. Yeah. And then I felt bad because I was like, oh no. And we are friends and we are shooting a project together. And I was like, oh no. And I was like, well, of course you can edit anything out that you want. But I was like. Then I like, rewatched and I was like, oh, we didn't see anything bad about it. So I was like, we're good. At least not on RSLs. Oh, like there's other things happening in the world. Why would it. Did you have note on it?

[C]

Well, all the girls are talking about it.

[A]

Wait, really? I was like, it's not a big deal. I don't.

[C]

I haven't anyone. Jordan, I'm sorry. It's a huge deal.

[A]

I was like, I'm only on gay Twitter. Moses hasn't heard about Moses. Have you heard about it? Did you hear about it?

[B]

I did. Oh, no.

[A]

Moses. Well, you're also on gay Twitter. We're all on gay Twitter.

[B]

That's how we did it there.

[C]

No, on TikTok for me. It was all over my TikTok. Sorry.

[A]

Really? I swear I did it. It's gonna be over.

[C]

It will be.

[A]

It's gonna be over. Do you have anything?

[B]

No. I was trying to understand what they were talking about. I couldn't understand.

[A]

You don't know. We don't know. Heated rivalry. You're not in that loop. You want to watch it together? We can watch it.

[B]

Is it the one that's a lot.

[C]

Of sex scenes or sex swallowing? Frauding. It's everything the girls are trying to. I saw a tick tock where a girl was like, I just saw frauding on heated rivalry. And I'm so sad that I can never do that.

[A]

Frauding is connecting. Oh, my God.

[C]

That is. It's scientific.

[A]

Via.

[C]

Yeah, like rubbing it. Yeah.

[A]

You love it.

[C]

I don't love. I don't think I have an experience.

[A]

With it, but girls are like, I want to do that. I don't want to do that.

[C]

I saw a girl was like, really was like crying. She's like, I'm crying because I can never do that.

[A]

You could, I guess if you inverted your clitoris, you know, there could be a little bit of that. Okay. I don't. I don't want to shame people with. Honestly, they showed that.

[C]

I think it's eluded.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah, I didn't. I'm not caught up. I'm not caught up.

[A]

I caught up. But I'm trying to think, like, did someone be like, oh, I love that. Give it to me. Like, what? That's okay. I love it. Look, it's natural.

[B]

Honestly.

[A]

It's probably more natural than being snipped. Honestly, I didn't know that.

[C]

Yeah, it's.

[A]

It's pretty. You haven't finished It. I'm surprised.

[C]

No, I feel like it's a time and place for heated rivalry. I think, you know. Yeah, you got to be in the mood for it. But honestly, like, because I think Jordan's argument to you, I. I am pro heated rivalry. Obviously, I understand that perspective, though, because it does. I think I've been me projecting here. Obviously, I've been in situations where, like, I am resentful because, like, like, damn, here I am gay as hell. And then here's these really hot people who, like, may or may not be gay, and they're getting all the gay love and attention for being, like, gay in their show. But I'm like, I've been doing that for years, and no one cares as much because they're so hot.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And, like, talented and sweet. So I understand being, like, a little jealous or, like, you know, of course, a little bit resentful because I've been there before. But I think at the end of the day, at least, his representation, it's the number one show on Max. So it's like, I think it's overall a good thing for the gay community to have, like, a show that depicts, like, gay relationships and romance be, like, so mainstream.

[A]

Because his argument or not argument, his take was that's not how gays have sex.

[C]

Yeah. That is just, like, not realistic, basically. But.

[A]

But kind of to what you said, like, it's written by a woman, so maybe it's not super accurate. I don't know.

[C]

Everyone's, like, experience is different. And I think especially, like, that type of male, like, in the gay community is so, like, praise. Like that archetype, like, muscular, like, the body that. But straight passing the characters. I mean.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, so that, like, that archetype is so it's like, if it's a food pyramid, it's like the top of the gay food pyramid. So I understand you can be, like, a little bit resentful, because when I was younger, I was so resentful of that type because I'm like, I'll never be that. Like, I felt like almost like I didn't fit in the gay community because I'll never be that type. You know, Now I kind of just don't care.

[A]

But, yeah, that's the blessing with getting older, because I was like that, too when I was younger. I mean, I always bring this up with, like, the Tana when she was coming up, and she was, like, 18 and fresh and young and skinny, and all the guys thought she was so cool. And I was like, but we're the same. I'm just fat and nobody likes me. I'm obnoxious. But she's like sexy and hot and cool and stuff like that because she's like like the young hot thing. So I get it. I get that too. And then also when you're so close because they both have shows on HBO Max as all things so. Yeah, yeah.

[C]

And both like depicting very different types of like the queer experience. Yeah, I think so. Like I understood his point. I think he just worded it very aggressive because he probably just being like, I like you know when you're just in a room And I think he knows the per. He knew the person who was interviewing him as well. They have a friendship.

[A]

So I feel like Jimmy's like, here's what I edited. I sent Jordan Liz. I'm like, well, just so you know, we edited this. He's like, love this list. Like it was just because. Yeah, you feel well. And that's what the problem too with coming to this podcast because so many people do just feel comfortable.

[C]

Yeah. And we always get that edit now.

[A]

Being like actually edit that because we will just be saying whatever.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And then one of the guys clap backed.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

That's why it made news.

[C]

Two of the guys clapped back. Yeah. No, it was Francois I think. And then Hudson. Were the two that clap back. Yeah.

[A]

What did they say? I didn't see it. I. I don't like to click on stuff when it is my friends because.

[C]

I'm like, oh, like terrible. Like Francois was like, let me get the exact quote actually. So I don't want it.

[A]

He might be on when the next.

[C]

White Lotus Francois, he said because just shared did an Instagram post covering it and Francois commented on it saying, is there only way to have authentic gay sex on tv? Should the sex that closeted hockey players have look like the sex that Cini La gays have have? And then that's the thing that I.

[B]

Saw and I couldn't understand if they were talking about people are looking like that or not looking like that in the show.

[C]

I think he means like should it be like the. Because Jordan in English teacher and in like I love la. It's like the L. It's very. It's just very gay. Like it's like party party. Like messy party hooked up.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. So like I think that argument was like, oh, so is that the authentic experience? But really it's like everyone. Every gay person experience is going to be very different. So. And then Hudson reposted that his Instagram story and said he added Francois comma in there, but then wrote, go watch I love la. Jordan and the cast are great. So, like, kind of being like, seconding the comment, but then also being like, but love Jordan. So it was like a. Oh, a little peacemaker. Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Because when he was here, he was talking about how we need to stop gay on gay hate. And I was like, I agree. Like, you know what I mean? Like, we should all just be happy gay sexes on tv, period.

[C]

I think he, in the article too, was like. Because they said. I think he thought they were straight and we don't know their sexualities to clarify, but I think he assumed they were straight. And then the. And the author or the person who was interviewing him was like, well, we don't know the sexualities. So corrected him there too. But I think he was saying Jordan said that statement thinking that they were straight.

[A]

Yeah. Which could make sense.

[B]

So.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Because I do. I think I can see the difference. Even with, like, straight girls, when they have, like, sex with other straight girls and like, adult films and stuff like that, it looks very different than, like, lesbian or bisexual or, like, queer girls having sex. Like, it looks very, like, convincing, but you can just tell, like, you can always tell there's a little more. So I don't know. I. They look convincing to me, but I don't know. But I don't know if two hard bodies have sex like that. Do two hard gay bodies have sex like that?

[C]

I want to know.

[A]

Yeah, Yeah. I was like, I feel like the hard body gays I know don't always go for that. They like, of a lot little pudge, you know?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I've known a lot of hard body gays that don't go farther. Hard body gays. It's like two rocks banging, you know what I mean? I don't know. The fantasy is nice, I suppose, but.

[C]

At the end of the day, love more queerness. Like, I feel like we're in an age where, like, LGBT representation in, like, scripted shows is kind of getting smaller and smaller. So I feel like at the end of the day, any show that's successful that's like, centered around queerness is like, oh, win at the end of the day, you know?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I think that's just the way you gotta look at it, you know?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. HBO Max is very on. On that queer level. Because White Lotus was on HBO Max.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

They had queer sex or no. Yeah.

[C]

The brothers.

[A]

Oh, I'm thinking the one with the butt with Lucas Gage eating the butt. That was also White Lotus, Right? Yeah.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

So they're. They've been on the. The brothers ones was a little crazy. That was a little diabolical. But that one.

[C]

Well, now heated rivalry just became actually. So Jordan actually kind of helped. He did rivalry because they wanted it out. It became number one after the drama with Jordan.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

So at the end of the day.

[A]

He was working for that inside job with hbo. Max. He's like, actually.

[C]

Synergy.

[A]

Yeah. Sometimes you have to have drama. I know. Now Moses wife wants to watch it. You're probably curious to know. No, babe, you might. You might like it. There's a story to it. It's not just sex.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Though. No, it's not that. Like, you watched Fellow Travelers. Yeah.

[A]

I think you would have liked that one, too. I just watched it myself because I felt.

[B]

Well, I guess maybe it's your fault, the way you presented it to me.

[A]

Which one?

[B]

Fell Travelers? Because then he presented this one as like that. It was like my horny show that.

[A]

I was like, oh, I better watch this alone, because I would feel awkward watching it with you. I don't know. I like just watching a sexy man have sex. I like man on man sex. I like watching it. I do enjoy it. There is something. Something more erotic to me about it. I don't know.

[B]

If you like men, then, yeah, there's more men.

[A]

Maybe that internalized misogyny was like me back in the day, where I was just like. Because even back in the day. I don't know what you call it. Kink or whatever. I liked man on man in person, too. So maybe. Maybe that was. You're right. Maybe I was like, I don't want to see any women because my jealousy. I only want to see men. I don't know. We channelize that. Next time Dr. Drew's here.

[C]

Psychiatrist.

[A]

We'll do that.

[C]

Well, another HBO. Another HBO show, Euphoria. The first teaser came out finally. I really went frame by frame. I'm like, maybe Trisha's in here somewhere. I was like, maybe just like. It'll just be like her hair, like a silhouette. I really was trying to find you in it.

[A]

You know what? I have, like, my. Yeah, I think my agent was there, cuz how else. Oh, no. Maybe. No, maybe it wasn't me. Oh, thank you. Was. I think. I won't say who on the crew, but someone snapped photos of me doing this scene. So I have it with, like, the Euphoria clapboard in front of my face, but you can't tell, like, who I'm with. I Almost wanted to leak that too, to be like, look, Christian Payton. I know. And I was like, let me not. Let me not be that person. I know. I. I unfortunately did not make the teaser. I was kind of hoping to.

[B]

Like.

[A]

Just a little, like, flip of the hair or something like that. Oh, man. I. I did not. Are you excited for it? Does it look good to you?

[C]

I'm very excited for it. I think either way, like, everyone's gonna be seated for it, like, no matter what. It's gonna be like such a moment in pop culture and I'm so excited.

[A]

I'm excited too. I don't know what episode I'm on, but I'm excited. I think I'm gonna watch it. I think I'm gonna watch it.

[C]

Yeah. I mean, you have to.

[A]

Well, I mean, the whole series is a dedication, but yeah, I mean, eight episodes.

[C]

I feel like you can make it more.

[A]

Is it only 8?

[C]

I'm assuming, because I feel like every, like, streaming show is eight episodes.

[A]

Didn't they spend like 200 days filming this? They spent the whole year filming it. Oh, my gosh. They really do take their time. Even though what I'm doing right now too is like one episode is taking like three days.

[C]

Yeah, I mean, it's. I mean, White Lotus is like eight episodes and they're shorter, but that takes like almost. Yeah. Six to eight months.

[A]

So that is wild.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I wonder why. Because they move relatively quickly now that I've been on both of these. Like, not both. Not White Lotus. That's crazy. But Euphoria and my other. This other thing I'm doing, they move quickly.

[C]

I know. I don't know why either. I guess pre production production, but post production is like so much after.

[A]

But what I've learned too is the post production is happening, like while they're filming.

[C]

Oh, really?

[A]

Like they're sending it to editors? Yeah. Because I was like, oh, that's so fast.

[C]

Yeah, I have no idea.

[A]

Maybe they just like to make people wait. I don't know. British is coming back soon. Coming back. I'm so. They've been doing press junkets for it. I really was hoping we'd get in there as a press junket, but I guess we didn't make it.

[C]

London, though. I would fly.

[A]

I would fly. Oh, my God. I'm so excited for this one too. I love bridging is my all time fave.

[C]

Well, for Euphoria, Jacob Elordi did actors on Actors with Gwyneth Paltrow, and she asked him about Nate Jacobs. If he's going to be nicer this season, and he said he thought. He thinks that he will come across better in the season. But he did sound like he's nervous for this season for some reason. He's already, like, whether the show works or not, I don't know. There's a chance that what we've done, what I've done is not good. I'm not sure.

[A]

Oh, wow. What a. What a way to promote it.

[C]

I'm like, well, now you're making me nervous.

[A]

I. I can echo that sentiment on my behalf, too, which I. I said it before.

[C]

Everyone's also shooting separately. Like, so you don't know how all these storylines are gonna, like, fit it together. Like, I don't think Jacob Lauria knows how, like, the Rue storyline is gonna go, because from what we've seen or heard so far, it's very much like Cassie and Nate's story is, like, together. So I don't think a lot of them have, like, I don't know. The different storylines don't, like, cross from what we know so far. So I think we'll see how it all, yeah, comes. Comes together.

[A]

I had a lot of improv in my seat. I'll say that. I had a lot of improv. You know me with improv. I'm not good at improv, but I had to do a lot of it. I was like, oh, my gosh. The pressure was really.

[C]

I wonder if Jacob Elordi was improving too.

[A]

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I wish I could just say a little more. I wish they would let me drop a little nugget. I mean. I mean, it's not like, you know, a little something would be nice. I did love that. I love that interview. I reposted a quote, my favorite quote. And I always say this. Jacob Elordi was about talking to Go on the Paltrow, and she said, you know, my daughter loves you. My son's gonna be so excited. And he's like, it's always, my mom loves you, my sister loves you, I love you, and period. Why is that? Everybody I meet is always, always, you know, oh, can you say hi to my friend? Oh, my sister loves you. I need a picture for. I'm so with him. Like, how come no one ever is like, oh, I love you. I'm a fan of you. No one ever says that.

[C]

I feel like I am. See, I'm the person that goes, like, I love you so much, but I Feel like maybe it's a way to be cooler where it's like, I'm cool, but like this other girl I know loves you, but, like, not be like, come across so aggressive. I feel like maybe that's what it is.

[A]

That's the opposite, though. It makes me not want to take a picture. Like, well, okay, one. Be like, I don't know who you are, but my friend likes you. Okay, well then why are you talking to me like, you know, I don't like it at all. I don't like that at all. And he was so real for saying that. He was like, you know what? You're right. I love you. I'm like, no, you didn't say that. You said your daughter. I guess. I guess I've done that before. I think I've probably done that with like, caretop or something where I make my mom. But I was like, no, but I love you. That's why you're here. Like, I don't know. Like, why would you go up to someone you don't love? You know, take a picture from afar, I guess. I don't know. I love these actors on actor series, though. I do. I like Gwyneth Paltrow, too.

[C]

Well, yeah. Shout out. Apple. Apple.

[A]

Apple and Chris Martin. Yeah, they made her.

[C]

The concept of Apple Martin, like buying a digital, like, not even seeing your one woman show in Broadway, but buying like the digital package, you know, and.

[A]

Like watching it, like, that's everything.

[C]

And I'm just like, I need to know. She showed, like, her mom a clip and was like, look, mom, I don't think she did.

[A]

I have a feeling the answer is no. But maybe you never know.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Well, I'm excited. I'm sat for euphoria. Lots of projects coming. 2026. I'm excited for early 2026.

[C]

I know, like, spring is going to be, like, kind of crazy.

[A]

Yeah. Watch me. On all the press tours is, well.

[C]

Gwyneth Paltrow's Marty supreme co star, Timothy the Chalamet. I don't know how I feel about him these days. What?

[A]

This life, doing anything.

[B]

It's all gonna come down to whether this movie is good or not.

[C]

I think the movie is gonna be really, really good. Critics so far. I really like it.

[A]

Marty Supreme. What is this Marty?

[C]

It's about a guy who plays ping.

[B]

Pong because he's hyping it so much. Like, it better be good. Like, it better be.

[A]

Who's hyping it? Timmy. Timmy.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

Is it real story?

[C]

I actually don't know, I have not.

[B]

Heard of it as being real.

[C]

All I know is I do like that. Oh, no, it's a movie character. So fictional.

[A]

It's like challengers.

[C]

I think it's about, like, a guy who plays ping pong, who. Okay. It's inspired by a real person, but it's not. Not based on a real person, if that makes sense. Yeah, it's based on the real life or inspired by the real life. Legendary American table tennis champion Marty Reisman, who was a charismatic hustler and an innovator in the sport.

[A]

Okay, do we know him?

[C]

I don't know him. You know, no, I don't know much about ping pong.

[A]

I do love, I love when they make movies about random people. Gives me hope for one day that people just make a movie about me. Like, literally just like, who is this person you just made a random movie about? But I like it. I like that idea.

[C]

Well, he already got a little bit of heat last year at the SAG Awards when he won because he talked about in his speech about being, like, very open, that, like, he does acting because he wants to be the best at it. Like, he wants to win. So we kind of have that, like, athlete approach to acting, which, like, some people are kind of torn on. And then for Marty supreme, he's also been very that because he did it in an interview promoting Marty supreme, and he was, like, very assertive about, like, his performance. He said, this is probably my best performance, you know, and it's been seven or eight years that I feel like I've been handing in really, really committed, top of the line performances. And it's important to say it out loud because the discipline and the work ethic I'm bringing to these things, I don't want people to take it for granted. This is really some top level.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

So, wow.

[A]

Okay. Hyping yourself. I love it.

[C]

Yeah, that's what we need.

[A]

We need more of that. Less Jacob Elordi. Be like, I don't know what, Me too. I gotta be like, no, we're giving top level Emmy nominations.

[C]

I don't know. At first last year I was like, oh, it's cool. Like, he's very, like, he wants to be really, really good. He has the athlete approach, but it's also like a little grind. Like, he also said in this interview where it's like, yeah, I, I, I wore contacts to make my vision worse for a year so I could, like, play this character, character authentically. And I'm like, okay, that's a little crazy.

[A]

Like, I don't think you need to.

[C]

Be affecting your eyesight for the rest of your life for this movie. I think you could still do a good performance without.

[A]

Yeah, that's a little crazy.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But also a method, like dedicate. Maybe he just like really wants to Oscar and you have really, like, destroy yourself.

[C]

He. I mean, he's very transparent about really wanting the Oscar. And it can go either way. I do think, like the athlete, because people are like, either defending the athlete mentality or being against it. I do think that I was thinking about it because, like, I kind of waffle, but I'm like, like that for sports. It's like very clear cut. Like it's two teams playing one game. One team wins. So, like, someone is inevitably the best because they win. Acting and like, is an art and movies are like an art. So it's very subjective. So it's hard to be like, you are the number one best actor in the whole world. No one can compete with Timothy Chalamet because it is so subjective. It's hard to say, like, who is the best, you know?

[A]

Right. Do you go like, based on movie by movie? Like, what if he's like, like, like so good in this movie? You know, I got some people are. Who was it that won best? They won an Oscar and a Razzie the same year.

[C]

Was it like, oh, my God, was it Halle Berry?

[A]

But what are her worst one? Maybe either had Berry, like Sandra Bullock or something like that. Like one of those. It was something. And I remember being like, how can you both win Both the worst and best.

[C]

Sandra Bullock. Yep. The Blind side and All About Steve.

[A]

All About Steve was the worst one.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So that's what. Yeah, So I guess that is like. Yeah. You really just have to go by based on the movie. Some people can, like, be amazing in one movie and then terrible on the other.

[C]

Yeah. Or some actors just are like, really, really talented, but, like, will sign on to a project and then the script changes or it's just a good paycheck. So.

[A]

Right. Like Leonardo DiCaprio's number one, right?

[C]

No, he has one. It took him like, he. It took him like 40 years into his career or something to win. But he was like, nominated for a long, long time before he finally liked.

[A]

Do you know what he won for it? You don't have to look it up if you don't.

[C]

It was, I think, the Revenant. Yeah, the Revenant. He fought a bear. I never saw it, but I know he fought a bear.

[A]

I have an animal not the big.

[C]

Gay man, but clarify.

[A]

Took me a minute. I remember watching the Revenant on repeat for, like, 48 hours straight.

[C]

What?

[A]

With Aaron Carter. What? He watched it and he would, like, pretend to be a bear. I don't know. I guess that's okay to say. It was cute.

[C]

You liked it?

[A]

No.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

There was no talking in it.

[C]

Oh, there's no talking.

[A]

He loved it. He was, like, acting out the Revenant. Loved it. Wow. Yeah.

[C]

I never had any interest in seeing it.

[A]

Well, one at Oscar.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I like Jimmy's job. And maybe he's also saying this. This kind of reminds me of when me and Moses started dating, too. I think when people see him and Kylie and, like, matching neon orange outfits, maybe they don't take him out seriously. Right. So he has to be like, look, I'm a serious actor. It was very much when Mike Moses and I started dating. I feel like people you, like, worked for didn't think you were, like, working as hard, being serious enough about your work because you were like, I was posting you in, like, a pink Rolls Royce, and they're like, wow, Moses is just. I see he's lost the plot with this girl. So maybe he has to remind people, like, yes, I'm with Kylie Jenner and we're matching. But also, I'm a very serious actor. That, like, scratched my eyeballs out to this role. You know, that's my thought. Right. Because you had to fight pretty hard and be like. Like, hey, just because you see me acting in Tick Tocks doesn't mean I'm not taking my job seriously.

[B]

Because it's easier when you. When people don't see you, then they don't know what you're doing else. Yeah, they only know you for that. So he's like, oh, he's the great actor. That's it. There's nothing else.

[A]

Yeah, that's probably why, like, I mean, I don't know if he's private, like, Leonardo DiCaprio. People in general just keep their relationships private because they want to be like. Because you do, I think, like, better. Whereas you do, like, see him as, like, oh, this couple of Kylie Jenner, and you kind of see them as, like, this, like. Like. Yeah, more like a superficial entity. Especially Kardashians. They're just known for, you know, celebrity.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Like couples and drama.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So, I mean, I like that he's proud of her. I'm glad that they're, like, you know, out and about. Was it you who sent me that they're both gonna get an Oscar this year.

[C]

I don't. Kylie's in a movie. I said, let's see how it turns out. I never said Kylie's gonna win an Oscar.

[A]

Oh, she's in a movie.

[C]

She's in the Charlie XCX movie.

[A]

Right. Well, maybe she will best guess.

[C]

Maybe.

[A]

Like, I like that she's in her acting era too. She must be good. You probably could have, like lessons together if you're like acting. I mean, they were low key for a minute. Right now they're.

[C]

Yeah. They've been together so long, like what, three or two? Three years.

[A]

Feels like it's time.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

It really came out guns blazing with those outfits.

[C]

I know.

[A]

I love a matching moment, but it was giving you righteous gemstones in the all pink suit. It was giving like, wow, you really. You really went for it.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And I love it.

[C]

Yeah. I like that they're really committing to the orange.

[A]

Orange is the new pink. So nobody ever.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

No. But I. I honestly didn't know or care about Timothy Jamie too much before Kylie, honestly. So it helped me know him. I saw. What's the one? I saw the chocolate one.

[C]

Wonka.

[A]

Wonka.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

That's pretty good.

[C]

Yeah, I like Wonka.

[A]

There's chocolate and there's chocolate.

[C]

Yeah. He ate with that. That Literally.

[A]

Literally. Yeah. I like him. That's all I seen him in. But I'll go see him in this because of Kylie.

[C]

Yeah. And I like the aesthetic of it. I. I do have to say I like the, like, the popcorn bucket is like a big orange ping pong ball. And I think that's kind of fun.

[A]

That's weird. It's just a big ball. It's just a big ball.

[B]

Yeah. People around him has been wearing them on their head. Like their head is like this orange pink ball.

[A]

You know what? I would love for him to come on the podcast. I feel like he would. Good. He seems to be doing press. Didn't do like a Britney Broski one.

[C]

That was this so for money supreme. He's not doing as much press, at least in America. Specifically. Like, they're really amping up the elusiveness.

[A]

Yeah. I never even heard of it, so. Yeah, that's how elusive it is.

[C]

There's like a. They're flying a blimp around LA and they're having influencers come on the blimp.

[A]

But that sounds dangerous.

[C]

I am kind of afraid of a blimp, I think.

[A]

I didn't know you could get it.

[C]

And it's kind of kids choice. Where's Nachos because it is just a big orange blimp.

[A]

Oh, that is so weird. Get JoJo Siwa up there.

[C]

No, they didn't. They stopped, like, inviting her because she. When she came out, actually. Right. Remember?

[A]

Oh, really?

[C]

Because she was like, always, like, the kids choice was like, get. Like she was the guest of honor. And then after she came out as lesbian, like that year, they. They didn't invite her. And then she was, like, very outspoken about that.

[A]

Well, they're regressing then because they used to have Rosie o' Donnell hosted every single year.

[C]

Yeah. What the hell is going on?

[A]

And she was openly lesbian. Right. Well, isn't that Cruise like a Zootopia cruise? Isn't that like Nickelodeon? Or is that Disney?

[C]

Disney.

[A]

Oh, I guess Disney got her. Oh, she switched. She jumped over. She's like, now we're doing Zootopia. I do like Zootopia. I watched a little bit of that. That's pretty good. I would love to be a voice in that.

[C]

Yeah, randomly. Rachel Senate did background vocals for the Shakira song in Zootopia too. And that is like, such a random fact that has really stayed with me after I. I read that. Because what is Rachel Sennott doing on the zoo? Ooh. Song. I don't know.

[A]

That's good.

[C]

Thanks. I kind of sound like Shakira. Yeah.

[A]

Let's hear it.

[C]

Gonna turn this floor into a zoo.

[A]

Is that where she's AI? What? No. Moses. Wasn't that the one you told me she was AI?

[B]

No, I didn't. I just said she looked like she's 20.

[A]

That was not. It wasn't really her. It was animated, Right?

[C]

She's a gazelle.

[A]

No, no, not.

[B]

But when she's. She's actually singing in the song.

[A]

There's a music video to it.

[C]

Oh, I haven't seen it. I've just seen the gazelle singing it in the movie.

[A]

Okay, can you look it up and tell me if it's AI? Because Moses said she looks like she's 20, but I'm like, no, that's AI or something. Or like a cartoon version of her.

[B]

More like cgi. Like, she looks very.

[A]

But I don't think it's supposed to be her for real. I think it's supposed to be an animated version of her, right?

[B]

No, I think it's her. She just.

[C]

Oh, I think it's her. Yeah, I. I agree. I think she's just very filtered.

[A]

That's crazy. No, that's like.

[B]

I mean, she looks like a child.

[A]

That's so wild. Cuz. She looks brave, but, like, also, she's in her 50s.

[C]

Yeah. I think she's just like a cartoon. Well, did you see the Kardashians? That scene of Chloe where they just, like, aied her in it? It's so weird. No, she. It's like a scene of a clip from the Kardashians. Are you caught up on the show or have you seen, like, a couple episodes?

[A]

We've seen a couple episodes. Last one was the Paris one.

[C]

Okay. Yeah. You. Then it was an episode. You see, it's when Courtney goes on Chloe in Wonderland.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah, I saw that one.

[C]

So I guess I wasn't really paying attention, but the clips are on. Tick tock. Like, it's when Chloe is FaceTiming Courtney. I mean, Kim. When Kim's in New York for the Met Gala, and Courtney, Chloe's face, like, weirdly becomes very, like, AI. And then some people like, oh, maybe it's just the filter. But her, she has, like, her cross necklace and the necklace warps too. Like, so it's not just like a beauty filter that, like, kind of comes off a little bit. Like, because even then, like, all this other stuff is, like, warping.

[A]

You think that'd be such an easy scene to film. Like, you just literally do it on your phone. So what did they say? What did she.

[C]

She.

[A]

Did she address it?

[C]

No, they haven't. Hulu hasn't addressed it, and Chloe hasn't addressed it either. But it's so weird.

[A]

What was the conversation? I kind of forgot.

[C]

It was just like, Courtney and Chloe were on the couch filming Chloe in Wonderland, and they're like, let's catch up with. Actually, the producer told Kim to FaceTime Courtney and Chloe because she was in New York getting fitted for the Met Gala.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And then Chloe's like, why are you facetiming? Why are you calling Kim? She's like, well, a producer told me to come and say hi to you.

[A]

So I had nothing to know. Did it not?

[C]

It was so random.

[A]

It didn't, like, advance the plot in any way.

[C]

I mean, is there a plot to really advance?

[A]

I don't know. The Paris One had me captivated. I was like, wow, Kim is really.

[C]

Putting in the work with the storyline.

[A]

Oh, I was glued. I was like, what do you mean? They were grandpas. Like, I was so. I didn't know any of it. I was very, like, you know, glued to it, for sure.

[C]

Let me just, like, yeah, let me play it for you so you can at least see it. Because it is crazy.

[B]

Because when I saw it like her mouth changed. She looked like her sister.

[A]

I don't know why she filters her face. She's like literally the most prettiest.

[C]

See how it gets like. Like her teeth also get so weird and then her necklace warps.

[A]

Why did they do that?

[C]

I don't know. So I don't know if it's just. I don't know. Cuz obviously they do put a beauty filter.

[A]

But like that looks like maybe just too heavy. Maybe heavy to like it warped or something.

[C]

Cuz how could you just AI? I have no idea. And what would be the point? I don't know.

[A]

Maybe she's just like. Because she does her. Her Instagrams are like notably like facetuned so much.

[C]

Yeah. And she is so pretty.

[A]

Like she's so pretty. I don't understand it because there was one. I mean a while ago, she used to do it so bad where she'd be like, literally her face was unrecognizable. And then you would see the show and you're like, oh, she's like so pretty. So it's like, why? I don't know why. I don't know why people do it.

[C]

I know. Maybe just some kind of dysphoria, I'm assuming.

[A]

Yeah, but wouldn't you rather to me, I love putting like ugly pics out there because wouldn't you rather exceed people's expectations in real life? People always like, wow, you look so pretty in real life. Because I usually look busted. You know what I mean?

[C]

I'm the opposite. I love looking the hardest possible.

[A]

You are face tuning the cat eye pictures and then.

[C]

But I at least add a little texture. Like I go back and I'm like, this looks a little unrealistic. Like let me add some like skin texture and like, you know, but sharpen some things.

[A]

Face tuned in real life skin.

[C]

I'm not super. Like, I'm only photogenic from very specific angles and I don't know how to take a photo, so. And also like proportionally, like the outfits I'm wearing can look weird depending on who's taking it. Jimmy and Darian and Dallas were taking a photo of me at the Trishma show.

[A]

I never saw these and I want to see them. I'm behind the scenes.

[C]

They're a little diabolical. I'm not going to wait. Why you standing on her street lamp? Like, the angles were crazy. I was looking at too many places. It was crazy. So like in a situation like that.

[A]

I thought you looked great. I have like three Seconds behind the scenes of everyone. Like, someone's lighting you, two people are filming you. I thought you were doing like a music video or something. And I was like, so. And when I found those photos, okay, you have to post the photos. Because I was like, so gagged by it. I was like, what is.

[C]

I'll post them, but it'll be me from a completely. It'll be like me in Hawaii or something where I look really good. And then like, because in Facetune you can also like, like, take your. It lets you take your face from one photo and put it in another photo.

[A]

And it's such a serve.

[C]

So I would do that, to be honest. And I, I, I'm like very tanned where it's like, I don't care. Like, I'm, I'm for the fantasy. It's my Instagram. I want to have that fantasy.

[A]

It's so wild. I just, I love to just look. I mean, look, if someone takes my photo and they facetune. Okay, yes. I don't mind that, but I will never face tune photo because I'm also just lazy. I never have. I don't think I've ever faced tuned. I don't think I know how to facetune.

[C]

No, you don't. That one, the Donny Osmond one. You had me.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You have outsourced. Yeah, I'll send.

[A]

Okay. Donny Osmond. I think my Gerard way, when I looked at. I was like, okay, give me a little smooth somewhere for sure. But. But in general, in general, I like. What's the point? Amazing. I'm beautiful as is. So those meet and greet. The cat's eye meet and greet is so funny because I was trying to figure out earlier what it reminded me of. And my TikTok has been. We can censor the name or we don't have to censor it. Colleen's meet and greets. Have you ever seen hers?

[C]

Past or present?

[A]

I would assume the past, but she's like, she's on stage and the people are in front of her. So that's why when you were saying cat's eye. So she'll be on stage like this and they're below. Yeah. One by one they go just like, stand by the stage and she's like on, like up here on the stage.

[C]

Oh, weird.

[A]

I wonder why they do that.

[C]

It kind of reminds me of like, I guess maybe like the book signing where, like, they're buying the desk. It kind of gives that, I guess.

[A]

Yeah. But she's like, not signing a book. She's just taking pictures. Like, she literally could just. Then there's steps right by them. She just walked. And there was multiple shows, so there was one where she had, like, a mass. So I said someone said she was sick. But, like, no, it was, like, every show.

[C]

Weird.

[A]

Maybe some people don't want to touch other people. Maybe they have, like, a phobia. I don't know.

[C]

I get it. I get it.

[A]

Not me.

[B]

For.

[C]

I mean, Manon was, like, so scared of getting sick that she wouldn't even go see, like, wicked. Like, she wouldn't go to a movie theater because she was that scared of getting sick. So. And they do meet so many people. So maybe that's why. I guess it's case by case.

[A]

Knock on wood. I've actually never gotten sick from a meet and greet, but I do Papa's.

[C]

Yeah. I can't.

[A]

Every two hours.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Who was it? Oh, Ben Verde. He had a. Who did the meet and greet? God, he had me recreating. Maybe it was Cardi B. I know Jimmy I recreated Cardi B with. But there was one where I was, like, doing a wheelbarrow. I love when people are like, can we do this photo? I love it. Me and Jimmy's was the best.

[C]

I loved it.

[A]

So you got.

[C]

Yeah, there was, like, one take. Like, nailed it, actually.

[A]

That's the one. Everyone should do that. Doesn't want to touch people because you're literally just like this. Then you're far away. You have to be, like, a weirdo about it. You sent me meet and greet photos of Jason Momoa.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I never seen. Is this new? Because I'd never seen him do that before.

[C]

I don't. It was so random, like, complex. Randomly covered Jason Momoa's mean greets where, like, it's like the husband's, like, standing awkwardly on the side as, like, their partners are like, yeah.

[A]

And he's, like, kicking them. And I was like, where did this come from?

[C]

I don't know where this trend originated, but it did give me. I guess your mom was the one that did the Jason Momoa photos with you, right?

[A]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[C]

I would love.

[B]

I would take it. Picture with him.

[C]

Oh, you would want one.

[B]

His last show, Maui, was a good show.

[A]

You want to do a meet and greet? What? How would you pose? I'm so curious.

[B]

Wait, I'm assuming he's, like, fighting me and.

[C]

Oh.

[A]

Oh, you want to do a fighting pose? I love that he's down. You know what I will say about Jason Mo and Donnie Yasmin is they are down to do a pose. If you tell them like. Like, can you hold me this way? Like, both of them will do it. We're just like. They're very good with sweet and greets. And like you said, not everyone has to be like that. But when you do meet people who are just down. That's why I am down for pretty much any pose. I mean, anything they want me to do, I will. Unless I don't know what the sign is. Sometimes it's like a, like, fraternity or something. I'm like, oh, I don't know. They're always doing like, something weird finger thing. Yeah, this one I'll do. Because that's like, a little heart, but yeah. Yeah. And some of them I'm like, I don't know. Or the flicking off the camera. I always think that's a little weird, too. I'm always like, no, but most of the time, it will. I'll hold your feet if I can. I don't know. I'll do. I'll do pretty much anything. But I do like that. I like that. You want to do a meet and.

[C]

Greet with him the next Comic Con? Yeah. You guys should go.

[A]

I would love.

[B]

Wait a minute. We'll bring Aquaman. Aquaman, too.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Aquaman needs to meet his namesake. I should. He's a nice guy. Some celebrities don't seem so nice. Who was telling me there was a rude celebrity that other day? I can't think. But most of them seem nice. Cat's Eye as nice. We love.

[C]

Yeah. The ultimate sweeties.

[A]

I didn't know they were so young. I know. My God. 18.

[C]

Yun is 18. I think Manal's 23, and she's the oldest.

[A]

Crazy.

[C]

Yeah. And they call her Grandma.

[A]

I'm like, oh, that's crazy. But I get it. That's so wild.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

I love this voice on you. I really like this.

[C]

I know. I kind of like it too.

[A]

It's cool.

[C]

I was. I. I want to do it. I need next. Maybe Wednesday, when we have more time. I need to do a tik tok with you. Of, like, you reacting to my vocals at Cat's Eye because I really thought I was eating. It's one of those where it's like, oh, that's how I sound.

[A]

Do you have one now? I want to react to it right now. I'll be singing. I didn't hear. I want to hear you.

[C]

What? Where?

[A]

Were you recording yourself?

[C]

No, I was recording them, but my.

[A]

Oh, my gosh.

[C]

This is why I lost.

[A]

Were you singing the whole time, especially.

[C]

Night one, Night two, I was already raspy, so I was like, I. But gnarly came on and I have to do it for gnarly. It's. The zucchini song is where I really lost my mind.

[A]

We gotta do that one. Did you make stuff peppers? You make stuff zucchinis. And you could do a tick tock sound to it. What is that voice?

[C]

I think they're much just a bit louder and so I know I blend better.

[A]

No, you heard. You. You took it down a little bit. That beginning. I would have called security if I heard that. I'm like, that person is not okay. But then you. You mesh with them. You started blending with them. I was like, because that's not even your voice. I've heard you sing it. Zucchini. I've heard you do it so many times. I was like, what?

[C]

Also I didn't know. Like, like it was a surprise. I didn't know that. Like, I knew the song was in there, but I didn't know when. So all of a sudden it goes black and then Manon goes. Haven't you heard? In the Internet girl? And then it goes black again. And I. That's when I was like, like, I lost.

[A]

You were like, this is it.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

So I think you sounded good once you got into the rhythm. Yes. I kind of love that though.

[C]

Did you post it on my Instagram story? But I want. I want to do one of those tick tocks where it's like, like pov. You hear yourself in a concert video. Cuz there I was waiting with the 11 year olds after the show in the stands for like the meet and greet. And I'm like. And the girl's like, you know, you have time to work on your social media post. And I was like, okay.

[A]

Who said that?

[C]

The girl who was corralling us.

[A]

I love that. Oh my God. Me tell Robert that from our meet and gre. But I can tell them they work on social media.

[C]

So I'm like, work. So I'm going through my footage and I was like, oh, let me do Internet girl. And then I press like unmute. And I was like, who is that?

[A]

That's. You sound good though. You sound good. And you know what? You sound like you're having a good time. As you should. What is the rule of thumb with concerts? You can. You should sing to the songs, right? You should sing along.

[C]

Yeah, I. For me, I guess like aerostore for me is like a good example. Like the bangers.

[A]

Sing along.

[C]

Yes. And then, like, when it's a slower song, I, like, will be quiet. I'll be like, I can't even sing all too well right now. But I would be, like, quieter to myself more.

[A]

Because, like, Broadway shows, if you sing, you're, like, out. Like, don't sing. What do you mean? I paid all this money to hear this person sing, not you.

[C]

Tati Westbrook once said, time and place. Because also the girls are like, we want to hear you sing it. And then so I was like, you ask, you shall receive.

[A]

Okay. I say that sometimes, like, sing along with me. I like when people sing along. Because then it's like, okay. You, like, are feeling it.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Remember that one artist who, like, shushed people singing? They started singing? Yeah. I was like, what are you. Oh, yeah. Like, no, not you. I was like, that's so weird. Don't you want people?

[C]

That was a little crazy.

[A]

That was crazy.

[C]

But, yeah, it was little.

[A]

What is she doing these days?

[C]

She just did another tour. She really? Yeah.

[A]

Where at?

[C]

She did all across North America. She was in LA two months ago. I think she released an album over the summer called Virgin.

[A]

Is she playing, like, arenas or arenas?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

All these people playing arenas. I think Meghan Trainer's doing an arena tour.

[C]

Like, yeah.

[A]

First of all, I get how many people. How you have all these fans behind. How, like, are people just going to like. They are. You know what I found about Gen Z is they go to a show. Like, people go to, like, three concerts a week.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Ashton, I'm looking at you. Ashton, who I love, goes to so many of my shows, but then he'll also be, like, front row at every other show. Like, he'll be like, at Lady Gaga. Addison. I'm like, how are these kids just going to every show?

[C]

I think I used to go to concerts a lot of the time when I was younger, too. But, yeah, now it's like, I really have to pick and choose. Like, Adela was in LA in October and I really, really wanted to see her. And I got invited, like, but it was like an hour before, like, oh, you want to come? And I'm far from, like, la, so I was like, there's. And then, like, I mentally prepared for, like, months. I can't be, like, last minute.

[A]

I'm very much the same. That was me with mcr. Do you want to come tonight? I was like, I had to, like, prepare and get a sitter and, like, everything. Yeah. Like, I have to prepare.

[C]

Yeah. I think it's just. We're just Old.

[A]

Even a year in advance isn't enough. MCR is here next October. I'm like, can I make it? Can I go? How old will the kids be? What's my cycle look like? Will I have the stamina? Can I be up late? What's my weight gonna be? What's the moon? That's a big one. We can't go on Mercury retrograde, that's for sure. Like, there is a lot to take into consideration, especially, like, a Hollywood bowl that's so big. I'm like, yeah, how do we get in and out?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Ben Platt's at the Ahmanson. We got invited. We should go to there. But that also seems hard to get in and out of.

[B]

It's fine. I mean, if we're together, it's fine.

[A]

You are like my security. We went to Amundsen, didn't we?

[B]

Sounds familiar.

[A]

Gosh, what show did we see? Ah. What? Oh, oh, remember I got coveted after. I think everyone gave me Covid. There it was.

[B]

Oh, the Hades.

[A]

That was like, our date, I think, before we had kids. Oh, I was pregnant with Malibu. I think it was like, 2021, 20, 22.

[B]

Probably. That's why you were sick. You always sick at the beginning?

[A]

No, I think I got it from people there. Remember? Everyone was hugging me.

[B]

Right. But usually you don't get it. Usually you're right.

[C]

Images weaker.

[A]

Yes, I think that's probably the case. Yeah. Because I meet people now and, like, again, knock on what? I haven't gotten sick, but.

[B]

Well, you were ready for the season. That's the thing. Everyone that tours, they get sick, but they get sick once, and then they're immune.

[A]

For that season, I was weirdly sick that, like, week right after I got back from Broadway, right before tour, I. I lost my voice, too. Like, Thanksgiving had no voice. I don't even know how it happened, but I made it through. I don't know if you could do a singing tour because you lost your voice after two nights. Nights.

[C]

Yeah, but that was the level I was going after.

[A]

Yeah, you were going full 60.

[C]

Actually, no. Like, 75 minute set.

[A]

That was your third Cat's Eye performance because your first was at the Trishmas Live.

[C]

I'm really the Cat's Eye street team at this point. Like, and also the cross. The cross promotion. Like, the synergy of my clients.

[A]

I do love that.

[C]

Both shows I'm promoting and I so many just trip Irish viewers at Cats. Big cross. Yeah, big cross coverage.

[A]

Did people come up to you?

[C]

Yeah, it was so nice.

[A]

Did they Come up to you in the mean greet line kind of throughout.

[C]

Because it was easier to talk to people in like when I the second night because it's all standing versus like night one. I was like just in my seat and it was just me and Robin Thicke hanging out. So do you talk to him?

[B]

No, no.

[C]

At first I was like Robin Thick. But his son was like very sweet and having like the best time and like was doing all the dances and like waving. It was so cute. I'm like, I love seeing like just like the kids be so excited and like having the as I remember like being a teenager and going to my concert, especially a pop girl concert and like the pure joy of being honest.

[A]

Crying. When I was like 13, I remember like seeing Donny Osmond at the New York New York and I just like would sob. I was seeing like Donny Osmond and like Tom Jones and I remember being like crying in my eyes out. I was like, I can't believe it. It's so cool. There is a magic to concerts when you're younger. And I do like seeing celebrities just be like parents with their kids.

[C]

Yeah, it was really cute.

[A]

It's cute. I don't like love a Robin Thicke, but I love that he did that. You know what I mean?

[C]

His son was like so. He just looked so sweet and was so happy.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Gave me like young Oscar tease and.

[A]

I was like, oh, really? Oh, I love that.

[C]

It was really cute.

[A]

I love when I see girls that are like me at my shows too, too. Like young me is and I'm just like, oh, they'll be like 15 and they'll be wearing like like a My Chemical Romance hoodie, like a scene wig. And I'm like, oh my God. We had a 13 year old dress up as Uncle Baby Billy from Righteous Gemstones. Did you see this? It was so cute. So I saw a sign that was like, can you and Moses come to our wedding in Brooklyn? And they were this cute little lesbian couple. They had our eras of trist shirt on and they had a little rainbow underneath wedding. And I was like, oh my God, I love it. And then their daughter was next to them and she was 13. And I was like, oh my God, what do you dress like? She had gold. So I didn't know if it was like Holiday Barbie if it was Elvis. It was like a gold suit suit. And she was Uncle Baby Billy and she I know every word to misbehaven. And I was like, oh my gosh. So then I was like, you want to Come up here. So I had her. You know, usually they come right at the stage, but she, she hopped up on the stage. She like jumped up on the stage. I'm bored and my tour manager is like this huge Australian guy. I was just like, I was like, it's fine because it was, you know, cute little girl and she knew every word. We did acapella but it was very, it was giving very church vibes because like what 13 year old is like cosplaying righteous gemstones is like, I would have done that at 13. I of was kind cosplaying like. Like I said like Donny Osmond, Donny and Marie or something. So it was, it was cute. Did you see it? Did you see the clip?

[B]

Not yet. Mal's doing it at three years old, so.

[A]

That's true. I know I was. Yeah, she could come out and sing with me on stage. It was, it was, it was cute that people liked that so much. I, I really enjoyed it. Have you watched the new Fallout? Speaking of Walton Goggins?

[C]

It's not out until next week.

[A]

Oh, I've been thinking to press everywhere for it.

[C]

The press start event comes out next week.

[A]

Yeah, I'm really sad. He's like, okay, off to LA next. I was like, come on the podcast. I reached out to Trisha again, although I think I told her we're done for the year. But I think he's probably done with that. I want to watch it. I think I would like it. It's a video game.

[C]

He said, yeah, it's based on a video game. I've never played it or know that much about it, but I still enjoyed the show.

[A]

I like the way he looks in it. Yeah, he's such a good actor. He should come back to White Lotus.

[C]

Yeah, why not?

[A]

All the dead ones should.

[C]

Oh, I forgot he died.

[A]

Oh, spoiler alert. He should. Jennifer Coolidge and Murray Bartlett. Those are my like 3 faves from each season too. I guess they always kill off the faves.

[C]

So you know what show is back that I did not know is Kimora Lee Simmons, the Life and the Fabulane.

[A]

Oh, I did see a clip of this. What was this? Yes. I love her. I've always loved her. Oh, no, no.

[C]

I mean it's been a. It's been a little problematic, I feel. Oh, really?

[A]

Wait, I saw a clip but I thought it was cute. Maybe not.

[C]

Which one did you see?

[A]

I don't know. I can't remember now. I remember seeing something like, oh, she's.

[C]

Here, she's back so it was with her two daughters.

[A]

Were they sitting at a booth?

[C]

Okay, so I also saw that clip. It was. Was it one of the daughters and her son?

[A]

Maybe. Okay, and what was that clip?

[C]

That one was, like, her daughter. I think it was Aoki. Like, she was gone for six months, like, traveling and working, and she came back and her family was mad at her that she was gone for so long.

[A]

Oh, okay. Maybe that. Yeah.

[C]

And they're kind of giving her our time. But there was another one that's, like a little. It was a little different. Triggering. Let me get things out. I just lost it.

[A]

Kamora is older than me, right?

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

She's, like, quite a bit, like, in her 50s, maybe.

[C]

Let me see.

[A]

She looks great. I just was like, she's been around for a long time, so she is exactly 50. Okay. She looks amazing.

[C]

Yeah, she does look great.

[A]

I love her. She was married to Russell Smith.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Not anymore, though.

[C]

No. And I guess there's a whole bunch of drama there, but.

[B]

Oh.

[C]

Which I.

[A]

Not on the show.

[C]

Not on the show, I guess, because I just saw today, he, like, commented on an Instagram post of, like, a People magazine interview where she talked about, like, how she doesn't have a relationship with him anymore. And he was like, but there's two sides to every story. You said if I. You, like, took my stocks, and you said if I sued you, then you wouldn't let the girls ever see me again or something like that.

[A]

Oh, my gosh. What stops stocks?

[C]

I have no idea. He's like, you stole my stocks after the divorce. Something, something.

[A]

How do you steal them?

[C]

Girl, I. I couldn't even explain the stock market to you.

[A]

Like, yeah, do you know how to buy a stock?

[C]

I don't know anything about stock. And honestly, like, I talked. There was, like, when I was, like, dating, I had a date with, like, one finance guy. Like, finance gate.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

I mean, he was just very into finance, I think maybe unemployed at the time, but like, into finance, and was, like, talking about, like, investments and this. Like, I don't care.

[A]

Like, I. I hate that. I know.

[C]

I don't care.

[A]

As soon as anyone brings up investments to me, I'm like, no, give me some money. No, no.

[C]

To get by. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

I was like, I'll just, like, buy a house. No, no, no. You need to get the stocks, and you need to get your money interest.

[C]

Make this account. Put your money here.

[A]

I'm like, no, no, no.

[C]

But there was a. A scene from the Kamora. It's called Kamora. Back in the fab lane. Oh, kind of a good name. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And it was a scene featuring her daughters. And it. One of her daughters, aoki, is. She's 23, and she got offended when her sister ming, who's older, 25, said that she looks healthy. Yeah. Her. Because Ming told Aoki, you look good, you look healthy. And Aoki says, f you, you look healthy. And Ming is like, you look good. But she says it kind of like. Like she gives, like, up and down and smirks.

[A]

Healthy is like the trigger, right?

[C]

Like, they.

[A]

You want to look. If you have an eating disorder, they want to look sick.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And that's exactly what Aoki says. She said healthy means fat in this house, and you're kind of an a hole for that.

[A]

Oh, no.

[C]

And Ming says, that's not what I meant. You look healthy. You look very healthy.

[A]

As you keep saying yes.

[C]

And they keep going on and on. And Aoki just insists that, like, you meant healthy in a weird way. And Kimora says, oh, no. Aoki says she meant girthy. She meant she could last the winner. And then her mom, Kimora, says, okay, well, you are not. You cannot last a winter. Which is also, like, a weird thing to say.

[A]

Well, I guess she was trying to say yes. Like, like, okay, yeah. And our family, too. Like, skinny was, like, the ultimate compliment. So if you were like, wow, you couldn't even last a winter, I'd be like, what? Thank you. You know, like back in the day. But, oh, no.

[C]

The gag is Aoki has been open about having an ed.

[A]

Oh, no.

[C]

And, like, she's also, like, documented this on Instagram, like, over the past year because she's a model and she was told during Paris Fashion Week that she wasn't skinny enough.

[A]

So, like, oh, I hate it.

[C]

It's awesome.

[A]

Yeah, like, just triggering your film family. Oh, I know.

[C]

Like, the sake of the show, too. So, like, that contextually adds, like, so much.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So I. Every. Every clip I've seen has been people being like. I think they're trying to have, like, a Kardashian esque sibling dynamic where, you know, they, like, are mean. Yeah, yeah. They love each other, but they're mean. And they're supposed to be, like, relatable. But I think there's, like, layers to it where it almost. There's like a little tinge of, like, oh, that's not, you know, I think.

[A]

That'S a lot of tinge because I feel like I haven't watched the Kardashians for long. Like, maybe back in the day when they were, like, hitting each other with their purses and stuff, maybe they were more mean, but I feel like the body shaming of it all is like. Or just trickery. That kind of stuff is just like, not it anymore, you know, like, certain things just, like, die at a certain point. Right. Like, you know, like, just need to not ever talk about that stuff. And I feel like bodies is where we're at, where it's just like, don't me. I mean, me too. I gotta, like, watch it. When you, like, try and compliment. Even when you. I'm like, wow, you look skinny. Like, I just need to stop because, like, that's so crazy to say, like. Like, I don't know. Because it also trigger people if you say you look skinny. It's like, what, did I look fat before? Or this. There's so much lore to it. But if it's your own kid, for the sake of television. Yeah, that's kind of also. It's just like. I don't know, just my. Our biggest rule is to not even just, like, mention. But as soon as someone says skinny anything. Oh, look at the. Nothing, nothing. Don't say tummy. Don't say skinny. Don't say, like. Just don't mention body. Like, it should just be a. Like a vessel that doesn't even have, like, anything to do with anything, you know?

[C]

Yeah. I think especially, like, like, knowing. Knowing someone out of Ed and struggle, like.

[A]

Yeah. Struggle with that and saying something is crazy. And, you know, and you know, everyone knows. Even if you never struggled with it, everyone knows that that's what that means to people that struggle with it. Even people who don't struggle with it, they would take it as some type of way. And then she says it. And then you still say it again.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You look healthy.

[C]

You look healthy.

[A]

Like, stop saying that. Oh, my God. That would, like, freak.

[B]

They were trying to be Kardashian.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

After that, they sat with the mom, right?

[C]

Yes. In the interview. Yep.

[B]

And the mom was. And the way the mom was talking, I was like, okay. They are all.

[A]

What did she say on it?

[C]

That's when, like, the. You could last the winner. Like, they said she was.

[B]

That was like, no, you wouldn't even last.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, so the mom was playing into it a lot.

[C]

I know. It makes me sad because I also, like, like, I mean, they're so like Ming and Naoki. I remember when they were teeny tiny. Like, I remember the Cribs episode when they were so little.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And they're so gorgeous now. And, like, you don't need all. Like, I feel like it's almost trying too hard, and I feel like you don't need that. Like, no. They're so cute and funny on their own when so, like, on Instagram. They're so sweet.

[A]

So no, we need to. I know, because who else was like, that? Was it. Was it Gigi Hadid her mom that was like, yes. And it's so crazy. Or calling her athletic being like, well, you. You're gonna get too muscular if you do volleyball or something like that. Like, we need to bring back, like, just supportive moms. Chris does a pretty good job of it. You know who did such a good job? This is so dating myself. And I don't know if you remember this or do you remember pretty wild.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

With Alexis. Oh, God. She was the one that got the bling ring.

[C]

The bling ring, yes.

[A]

Yes. That mom was so supportive. I mean, maybe looking back, maybe prominent, but I remember she was so supportive of the girls. Like, when the girl was going to court and then that, like, like, remember the, like, reporter. It was like she. She was not wearing Louboutins.

[C]

Two inch kitten heels. Yeah.

[A]

Two inch kitten heels from Pee Pee.

[C]

Yes. Every time you interrupt, I have to re record it. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

I'm always. She's like, hi, this is Alexa. How dare you, Mom. Stop it. My mom and I redid that scene because it was just so. It's so iconic. It was so good. And I wish we had more that energy. Mother relationships like that. Oh, my God, if I ever do it, maybe we should do a reality show. People always ask us do reality shows. I'm like, I don't know. It's all drama. But I would like to see just nice and encouraging mom, you know, like, that's the ultimate role play. ASMR is to be, like, sweet. Yes. To be like, you love family dynamics.

[C]

Yes. Yes.

[A]

That's what we want. I think that's what we want to hear. It's just like, oh, like, would you like. Because even I think about this too, because I was doing the meet and greets this weekend. A lot of people are like, oh, you know, I'm, like, gonna be all on for Christmas or this and that. I'm like, sometimes it's better. Like, I remember being like, when I was really little and seeing, like, extended family and stuff and going to Christmases. Maybe we talked about this. I can't remember. But, like, you know, they would, like, you would get turkey and they would literally give you two slices of turkey. Like, just like a dollop of mashed potatoes. And, like. Like, that's it. And then I'd go back for, like, seconds, and they'd be like, oh, someone's hungry, and stuff like that. And I'm just like, what do you mean? You gave me a dollop of mashed potatoes. So I remember I used to put, like. Like a mountain of mashed potatoes. And people. And they always comment on that, like, oh, that's a lot of mashed potatoes. Did you be eating that much mashed potatoes? And it's just like, you. Aunt Sally. Like, what do you mean? I'm hungry. I'm a growing kid. Like, it's the most insane thing. And then seeing it happen with, like, the hadid or now with, like, this. It's like, that's so sad. And Kimora, like, I know she was a model, but she was like, she's a little curvy.

[C]

Big fat, Like, Right?

[A]

Yeah. So what? I guess you can't even call anyone curvy anymore because people take that as an insult too. I don't know. But she. It's crazy when people. How old are they?

[C]

They're 20, 23 and 25.

[A]

And they're models.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

What's good? People are calling them out. What? Where does it air? I didn't even see what. E. Still around.

[C]

I thought that E. News collapsed, but E. The network. You were interviewed on E. The network at Wicked.

[A]

Really?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You're interviewing Access Hollywood. I thought, no, no.

[C]

When you interviewed on the platform where it was like, what would you do if you had the Wizard Wish period that aired on E?

[A]

That was he. Yeah. All right. Kudos, E. For still being on. That guy was nice. I didn't know. E Is crazy. What other shows do they have?

[C]

They have that Christian Cavalier.

[A]

Oh, my God. That's where we're gonna live. We're gonna go on here. Let us know. Every time they're like, you wanna do a rash? I'm like, where would he be? It sounds like E. That sounds like the place. Who are these people? Pretty wild. Zani. E used to be the spot for sure.

[C]

Next door.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Anna Nicole. Now it's Hulu. It's like the Secret Lives Kardashians. Probably something else.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Didn't Sylvester Shalom's daughter have a show? I feel like he had three daughters and they all had a show. I'm like, I don't know. Couldn't know. Well, you know. Be kind.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Just that. Don't comment on people's.

[C]

There was One show that had a little bit of body positivity, which was. It's so weird. Like, I know. It's like, also, I feel like gay roles are in mainstream media harder. Body positivity, Mainstream media, so much harder.

[A]

It's so real.

[C]

But in the Taylor Swift docu series that just premiered on Disney plus, like, one of the episodes was mostly about the dancers and one of her dancers, Cam, who's like, who's bigger? And it was not. It spotlighted him a lot. And he was like. Like, I was told, like, he loves to dance. He was dancing his whole life. He was told that he'll never be a backup dancer because he's too big and that he should just teach dance classes. And he talked about, like, getting even in casting calls. Like, he wouldn't even be able to get in the. In the room to audition because he's too big. And he's like, no matter. Like, and that's just how his size. Like, he's just bigger. And Taylor at least was like, I wanted, like, specifically I said in the casting, like, I want it to. I don't care about, like, the look. I don't care if they draw more attention or whatever. Like, I want it to be just, like, people who anyone can look at and be like, oh, I can see myself.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And I was like, I got, like, emotional hearing him talk about it as, like, a. Like, a bigger gay man, like, who never thought he would get the opportunity. And I was like, so sweet. It was nice to see a little body positivity and in mainstream media for once.

[A]

No, it's so true. I feel like on all my music videos, that's, like, the one thing is like, like, yeah, just nothing specific, but just that everyone can be, like, represented. Like, my career Art for Cedric teaches a class with a bunch of dancers that are in wheelchairs. And, like, they're so good. Oh, my God, they're so good. So in close every door. We had one of his students in there, and I just make, like. And you just want to make sure everyone just feels seen. It's very, like, wicked and stuff like that, too. It's like, you know, you just feel like, oh, that could be me. And, like, same thing with me with being bigger. I remember seeing Sunset Boulevard on Broadway and the. I love when it's just, like, a character that's just bigger, and it's not about being bigger. They had this amazing girl named Melissa Victor. Played Audrey in Little Shop of Horrors on Off Broadway. And I was just like, oh, it's so Nice. Because that role's always, like, a skinny girl, and it's just like. Yeah. It's just nice to see. And especially, like a backup dancer or something. It's like, it's not about them being big. It's not like they're making fun of them or anything. It's like they're just existing and they're.

[C]

Doing the same choreography as everyone. And they eat it. Yes. They're performing at the same level. That also was like. Like, I think if I saw that when I was younger and, like, I just never thought I would, like, be able to do anything like that physically because I was just big, I would be like, that would have changed my whole.

[A]

Like, you would have been a backup dancer.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You would have been on theirs.

[C]

Yeah, I'd be with. Cat's Eye.

[A]

You'd be with. Yeah. It's never too late. It's never. No, it's so true, though. And I do love that that's happening because that was the same with me, too. I never got auditions ever. Like, it was just, like, never a thing. So I love not now that they're doing this Domino's Pizza plus size representation. We love it. Cause we eat pizza, too. In fact, we're probably the majority of the people who eat pizza. And I love to see is a good movement. We love this movement.

[C]

And I mean, it's a dwindling movement.

[A]

It's a dwindling movement. I know. I know.

[C]

It is crazy.

[A]

Yeah. Just, you know, gosh, everyone. I know. Everyone's being talked. Everyone now is, like, getting the. She's too skinny. Like, everyone's getting that. Which is, like, so crazy because I.

[C]

Was like, well, the pendulum is crazy.

[A]

It's crazy. Everyone's like, oh, she looks sexy, too. But they. But I guess, like, people do, like, hearing that. I guess that they look sick.

[C]

Yeah. It's almost like staying bigger now. It's like you're like the Katniss Everdeen. It's like.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. You're so.

[C]

Yeah. Staying. I'm still fat. Everybody. Me too.

[A]

Right here. That is me and. It's okay. It's okay. Oh, my gosh. It's just. It's just wild to see everyone just getting so skinny.

[C]

It really.

[A]

I guess it's good. My favorite guy from Mike and Molly just did an interview, Billy Gardell. And he was like, I had to take it because he said he was like, 400 actually. Jelly roll, too, I think. I don't know if he talked about JLP ones, but Jelly Roll lost, like, 200 pounds.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

He lost so much weight too. And he was saying that he was like, physically just like uncomfortable, that he tmi, I guess, gonna get aroused. I was like, okay, that's crazy. But yeah, he lost a bunch of weight. I don't know if he did GLP ones.

[C]

He showed a lot of his workouts too, though. Like.

[A]

Like, I guess you do it in. In tandem. Yeah. Sometimes I don't know of him, but I think Billy Gardell did say he used JLP ones and he said he needed it during COVID because he got like, really, really sick and he had to like, lose the weight. Yeah, he's like, he lost a lot of weight. It's just wild. It's crazy.

[C]

Yeah. It can just be a little, I think when, like we said before, I think as. When it gets too extreme, you know.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I guess nuts.

[A]

But yeah, do it for your health. Lose weight responsibly.

[C]

Yeah. And it is so hard to navigate now because, like, I mean, Kelly Osborne, like, everyone has been talking about her a lot. She's like, I'm grieving my dead dad. And I was like, you know what, T?

[A]

Yeah, for sure.

[C]

But she. Yeah, you don't know.

[A]

You don't know what he was going through. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

It's just drastic. I think it's just like shocking. It's like not common. Like, If I lost 100, 100 pounds, I think I would, you know, people would ask about it. I'd be like, wow, what happened? I don't know what I would look like. I honestly, like, like people have been saying this is quite a lot. Like some people are like, probably like, are just meant to be like a larger body, a larger. I think that's me. Cuz I have a big head and like, I think I'm meant to have like a larger face, a larger body.

[C]

I see myself suit, like when I was really. When I lost a bunch of weight and I look back, I'm like, it is a little shocking. And that was just revenge.

[B]

And.

[A]

Yeah. You weren't doing GLP ones back then.

[C]

I wasn't around.

[A]

Crazy.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Maybe it was.

[C]

Yeah, for like diabetics, but like, not for weight loss purposes.

[A]

Right?

[C]

Yeah, everybody's.

[A]

Everybody's doing it, I guess.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. We just need to not comment on anyone's bodies. You can think it, share it with your spouse. I don't think we need to, like, say it out loud like, ooh. But you know what's so funny? As much as we gossip and we love to gossip, we never are like, oh, that person got fat. Like, that person got, like. I've never once told him. I was like, oh, my God, she's so skinny. I don't know. I guess I think about. Maybe you think about it when you see it. I never really think to, like, relay this information after a week weekend to be like, wow, did you see Kelly Osborne being so skinny? I don't know. I guess I see it. When I see it, I'm like, oh, yeah, she's tiny.

[C]

But, yeah.

[A]

Yeah, I guess Kelly Osborne, too. Like, I know her growing up as, like, she was. It's so funny because in my head, I thought she was so fat. Like, not fat, but she was, like, the fat girl. And, like, you watch, like, the Shut up video or even Papa don't preach at the VMAs, she's kind of, like, not fat at all. Like, she's just, like, curvy. She's, like, 15 or 16, and she's just got some, like, curves to her.

[C]

We had a crazy skewed sense of weight. I mean, crazy. That's why I get the conversations around it because, like, we grew up in a time where it's like, everyone was so thin that. And that, like, anyone who had a little bit of, like, weight to him was, like, fat and ugly and obese or whatever.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So, like, it messed us up mentally. So the thought of going back to, like, that era of, like, body image is, like. Is scary. So I get the sensitivity in white people. People get so up in arms.

[A]

That's, like, the main reason. Like, I talk about it, too, because it's just, like. It's just. Maybe you shouldn't comment on people's bodies, but also, I guess. Yeah. Like, what's healthy? You know what I mean? Like, it's just. It's just not, like, real.

[C]

It's so, like, it is hard because.

[A]

GLP ones, essentially, as I heard, is like, people as. They just suppress your appetite. You just don't eat. So some people do pass out and get sick because they're just not eating. They got to force myself to eat, which is also kind of scary. Like, you shouldn't, like, be in that category. So. Yes, I think that is actually very valid blood because, yeah, we grew up with, like, Bridget Jones considered fat. I watched that movie, and I'm like, she's so. She's like, size eight. Like, that's crazy. So.

[C]

Or even, like, Anna Nicole. I think about a lot, too. Bridget from Girls Next Door.

[A]

Oh, my God, they went to Arby's. And the mom's like, oh, I thought you were on a diet. I was like, she's literally. What do you mean? She's like, in a two piece. Yeah. Jessica Simpson.

[C]

I'll never get over that.

[A]

Like, 2009 mom jeans. That's why Eminem cast me. They're like, we need a extra large obese person to play Jessica Simpson. And it's me at 175. Like, just. I'm like, what are you? At 21 years old. Just, like, crazy. And I was casted as the fat, disgusting, obese Jessica Simpson at 20 years old and £100. And I looked so lit in that video. I'm so tiny.

[C]

Crazy.

[A]

Like, maybe now. Okay, but, like, then I was so little. I was like, oh, my God.

[C]

That was even, like, watching when we reacted to, like, your old music videos. Like, even when you were doing, like, fat chicks.

[B]

Like.

[A]

Yeah, I know, I know. But, like, in my head, I was. And we talk about, like, time. Even as a kid, I'm just like, no, in my head that I was, like, huge because. Because of that. And that's what people think now. People are gonna be like, well, I'm so fat because I'm not this. So they just are taking these JLP ones to get even skinnier. And everyone's just, like, trying to be as skinny as possible. And, like, just if you're someone who's not doing that and not being as skinny as possible, it's okay. I know it sucks. We're here. They should play that sound when people lose too much weight.

[C]

Image in the sky.

[A]

Just keep a tally of everyone. We've all the fallen tributes. Yes. Because it really is. Everyone is just. Is just skinny now. It's okay. We're still here. I'm still here in the moment, but.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Do we have a final one or was that it? We can wrap it up. That's okay. I love it. Moses. Any final. It's bedtime.

[C]

It is late for us.

[A]

It's so late. That's what I was saying. When? Before you came here. I was like, it feels like it should be like a late night talk show.

[C]

It feels like a sleepover.

[A]

It does. It's because it was, like, dark. Oh, my gosh. And I was like. I had. I glammed it, like, literally 20 minutes.

[C]

Because I was like, oh, my God. It's like, bedtime.

[A]

What'd you have for dinner? You're like, dinner went late. I was like, what did you have?

[C]

Just my. It's my dad's birthday, so we had Peruvian Food.

[A]

Oh, I didn't know that. Oh my God. You could have done. That's why I said if it's with your schedule, you could have literally told me to F off. Because I was like, I kept changing it cuz my flight was so delayed. It was so. Oh my. I didn't even like, stop to eat anything. I literally came straight home and I was just like, oh my gosh. I kept getting late. But we could have. Probably could have handled it. Maybe not. We had no Hot Topics. I was like stuck on the tarmac for three hours and was like, maybe look at Hot Topics. I was like, oh, Oscar will be there. And then it got later. Oh, I didn't know. Okay, well, I'm so sorry. I know Moses, like, he had bolognese sauce left over from last night. Do you want me to make some spaghetti when you get home? I'm like, I would love that, but I have literally 45 minutes to say hi to my kids. Kids, shower, wash my hair, glam, and like, do the add reads before you get here. And kind of. Yeah, yeah, and did it. But I am excited to get some spaghetti. Who are you texting? Are you texting? Boil some water. Are you? No. Yeah. Are you kidding?

[B]

No.

[A]

Oh, I love that. I love when it's like, get that water boiling. That's why I married you. Yes. Oh my gosh. From glp. Literally. It's so funny too. People are like, you would love GLP ones. Like, people will ask me that sometimes the things. And I know they're being like, nice because they've lost so much weight, but I'm also kind of like, that's a little triggering.

[B]

I'm like, I think that people that smoke, they want more people to be doing the same, you know?

[A]

That's such a weird analogy.

[B]

Okay, maybe it's not because, I mean.

[A]

So many people are like, oh my God. Like, you would love. You would love Manjaro. And I was like, okay.

[C]

Like, why would you ever go up to anyone and been like, yeah, like a plug? Like, yeah, you should have some of them. I'm like, I guess if you want.

[A]

At least four or five people and they like lost a bunch of weight. They're excited. She show me. And I was like, super excited for them. And I'm like, no, I think you would like it. Like, you won't get sick. Like, it's meant for people like us.

[C]

People like us. That's kind of crazy. I. I like, I only talk about it if someone like, asks me about my experience. And I'D be like, yeah, like I haven't had crazy results, but like.

[A]

No, you have had crazy results, but not.

[C]

I mean, now I'm scared to see.

[A]

I know I have. I was gonna say you have healthy results, but maybe that's about the. You are. You look good. You look good. Oh, my God.

[C]

I'm literally being so. You think I could last the winter?

[A]

You could last a couple winters. I could last a whole apocalypse. You know, that'd be feasting off me forever. I could last so long. But anyway, just, like, nothing added to anything you want to add, babe? To anything we talked about?

[B]

No, we're talking about losing, not adding.

[A]

Okay, well, you guys, it's the holidays. Enjoy. Enjoy your life. Life is too short to be on GLP1s. Although it could be short if you're not on GLP1. So whatever works for you. Talk to your doctor, not us. You guys will see you in the next one. Oscar's dream guest is coming this week to join us on a hot topic. We'll do, like, little hot topics with him. It's like, less interviewing. Yeah, Moses's dream guest will be here next week. Me?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I'm the dream guest. And we'll see you guys real soon.

[B]

Bye.