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I gotta love a brick comment because if you're she's in every TikTok. It could happen.
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She see it all. I actually don't know. Well, speaking of Fatty's Drake, did you see his latest selfie? The Sydney Sweeney? Baskin Robbins ice cream? I kind of want to try.
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Whoa. We are Baskin Robbins number one fans.
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Wait, is that from her bats too?
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Her name is Trish. She's got the dish and all. Yay. Hello. Are you out there? Cuz. We don't know. We don't know if you're watching. But hey, if you're just playing this and you're not even in the room, you're an MVP too. Can you imagine? Someone just starts this and like, we're leaving. We're done. I love it. Background noise. That's what you do.
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Tv. Yeah.
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Yeah. You know what happened? The. The. The channel. You know how you have the old episodes of the podcast? So the episode where you're saying the podcast is over, it's done, for some reason, was recommended by YouTube last week for everyone.
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What? What?
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Yeah. And people are like, we thought it was a just Trish episode.
B
Wait, what? What? What podcast? Did I say it was over and done?
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Like podcast, like the first. Oh, yeah.
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What do you mean? It just like was playing and it's like, we're done.
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It was just like. You know when you open your homepage on YouTube and it was just recommended to a bunch of people? People.
B
Oh my God. We're like, it's over. Yeah. That was crazy. That would literally be like us getting fired from this podcast in our own house. I don't know. That's what happened. It was so weird. Like, you can't continue the podcast. It's like, what do you mean I can't? I guess I could have on my own. I don't know. That was weird. Anyways, they told me I was fired, but we're not going anywhere because we're literally in our basement. Not a basement, but we're above level. How are you? Oscar's back. Yay. We missed you.
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What an intro. I missed you.
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Love everything about you, Jay. Love the sad boy. Oh, yeah.
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I definitely got this.
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Did you time travel?
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I definitely got this back in 2021.
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Wow. You know, great job on the year. Well, if you missed the 2021, you can go to Poshmark today and get the vintage throwback poshmark. Trish P88. My mom's still hauling. Chucking. She's chucking the sad boy merch. She asked Moses every single day to go to his building and get more merch and was like, there's thousands of items we need to sell first. But. Okay. But there's sad boy up there all the time. Mose has so much sad boy. We're just a sad boy dealership over here.
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Yeah.
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Just random. You're just like, I need. I need this.
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For some reason, I'm really. It's like the sad boy era is hitting. I feel like it's hitting in general. I think if you did a capsule collection, like, randomly did a new drop of sad boy merch, I think it would sell like hotcakes. I think it's a vibe right now. This is very in. Yeah. You were just ahead of your time as. As always.
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Oh, thank you. Can I say I loved it so much. I was so into it. I had a logo created. Like, I don't even have, like, logos created for myself. I was so into it. I did have a whole new collection ready to go for Valentine's Day 2022, but we ran out of money.
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Well, maybe 2026.
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Yeah. Okay. I love that. Maybe we will. We'll come up with, like, a really bougie designer, like, who's, like, a really hot designer right now.
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Mew Mew.
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Sad Boy by Mew Mew. That'd be everything. Actually. I feel like Blunt's Yaga is more the speed. They do, like, random clouds with, like.
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Britney Spears right now in Italy.
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Yes. I'm sure they would love to do a Sad Way collab. Skims. Skims by Sad way. You look great.
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That'd be kind of fierce, actually.
B
Skims is where it's at. How are you? How's everything? We missed you. When you're gone, it feels like you're. I just had to remind people, like, you'll be back. People are like, no. Where's Oscar?
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Yeah, it's just a mental health day, you know, it was a traumatic feeling a few days, but we're still kicking, you know?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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The night we filmed the podcast, you were posting a Trisha meme, and I was like, okay. He's doing okay.
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Oh, yes, yes, yes.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. That really was how I felt. July is gonna be my month. And then it was a Montage of you breakdown in the celebrity big brother house. And that. That is how I felt. So I was like, I've gone through the trenches. Insert you in the trenches in the subway video. That was also how I was feeling. But July's your month.
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It's your birthday month.
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It is my birthday month.
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This is so cute.
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However, comma, I feel like I've said this is my month at the start of every month. And everything has fallen apart. So the bar is really low.
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You gotta just keep saying it, though. You just gotta keep saying it every month. This is your month. Like, you have to, because it's a fresh start. And like, if you just had. You have to keep being like, this is it. This is the month.
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Yeah. Well, yes, I think it's the month.
B
I think July is like cancer season. We love cancers. We love, you know, water and summer and true.
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you're having a cancer, Tana.
B
Triple cancer. She told me yesterday. Oh, she's a triple cancer.
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That makes a lot of sense.
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That's why she loves the water. She said she's like, I love Hawaii because I'm a triple cancer.
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So I. I'm. Yeah. I mean, again, the bar is really low. As long as it just. Things are okay, you know? I mean.
B
Yeah. And that's. That's really it. Right? Don't you just want sometimes the day to go by with nothing happening?
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Honestly, T, Yeah. And for context, too, because I'm still kind of in the depressive era, but coming out of it.
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Yeah.
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Out of just sheer having to do it. But it was like, literally. I don't think I even told you because it was Darian gotten in a car accident. Then the next day was my grandpa's, like, funeral. It was like a three day thing, my grandma's funeral. And then the day after the funeral, my mom had her surgery for cancer treatment. And so it's been a traumatic five days.
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God.
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Yeah.
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Is he okay?
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He is okay. Everything was okay, but it was just like there was a lot going on already. So it was very overwhelming. Yeah.
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Oh, I didn't know. I knew some of it. I didn't know the extent of all of it. Oh, my God.
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Yeah, but she got it. Laugh, you'll cry.
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That's crazy. Laughing's crazy. But maybe silver lining. They say have things happen in three, that's three bad things.
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You're so right.
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Everyone's on the recovery.
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Yeah. Well, except my grandpa Rip. But he's in a better place.
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He's in a better place. He doesn't have to suffer anymore.
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I feel like that's on TikTok. They always say what not to say to people grieving, and I feel like they don't want to hear that.
C
Why?
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I don't know. That's like a rule people say. It's like, I don't want to hear that. I want them here with me. Maybe he is in a better place. Maybe he's not. But I want them here with me. Well, I know. I don't know. I don't know.
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Much better.
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HR where is it? You just said my sister should be HR I was like, absolutely not. The last person that should be H.R.
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I mean, who else? It's between Callie or let it. I guess maybe Mukbang.
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I don't think.
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Yeah, I'm gonna say Jimmy.
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Jimmy would be a good HR I have Jimmy a tote too. Don't. Did I have a tote down here?
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It's right here.
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Yeah, but do I have the one that I had my little bag, or. No, it's not down here.
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You didn't bring it.
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Okay, well, we have one for Jimmy. We have totes things. Well, you're in. Great. You look great.
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Thanks.
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Sometimes, you know, like a depressive error kind of like people kind of like, thrive physically.
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Honestly, Tea like, not like skinny, not.
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Weight or anything like that. You know what I mean? That's what I'm saying. Well, you do look skinny, but I don't want to be like, oh, you are not eating because you're depressed. You look great. It's not that. It's more the glow that maybe comes from sometimes when you do less to yourself. Like not washing your face as much. My glow more.
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Oh, yeah. Because of the oils.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. I randomly in both. I'm a combination. I've like, I'm dry and oily at the same time. I know. Exactly. It's like, damn, pick a struggle. But randomly I got a. A PR package from CeraVe, so I kind of just use whatever's in front of me. So right now he's in front of me. Yeah. Not Spawn, not hashtag partnered, but, you know, gifted.
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Gifted. Yes. We love a hashtag gifted. That kind of everything. Okay.
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You also glowing.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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Thank you. I don't know why. Honestly, I've been resting so much. Like, I literally, like, just like, lay on my sides when I'm not like, filming podcasts. I've done. This whole week is podcast because we're doing not Loveline too. So this whole week has been podcasting. And then when I'm not. I'm just, like, laying, and then on the weekends, I'm in the pool, and I feel like, man, there's a lot to be said about doing some nothings. You know what I mean? Some days it's just nice to, like, literally, like, even Sunday, we didn't even watch, like, Tiktoks. I was just, like, watching movies. We watched Minecraft. You missed this big girl movie.
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Oh, don't worry. I was seated for the Cali special.
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Oh, did you watch?
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Yes, of course.
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That's crazy to me. That's so funny. I don't know. I'd be, like, so sick of me or sick of this. You know, not even sick of it, but you, like, live it, so it's like, oh, I don't need to, like, watch it while I'm not there.
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No. I think I've also been out of the loop with things, so I was like, oh, let me catch up. Let me see what the girls are talking about. Granted, it was a lot of Minecraft, Squid Game, Game of Thrones.
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It's very different when you're not here. And I'm always thinking, like, that's a very different episode. I'm like, well, for the Cali fans, we have water droplets. We have some Cali fans that are into it. It's very. Yeah, people did miss your takes on. We had some. We had some takes that were not it. Sometimes you're really kind of directing. I don't know. I don't know what's happening. Both me and my sister never know what's happening in Hot Topics. Then we're like, I think this, maybe this. And then we're like, you missed the entire mark. Yeah.
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Which one was it? The brook one. Because that was kind of crazy. It was like, everyone wants me to talk about it, but I don't know anything.
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I was like, I didn't. Well. Cause, look, I had to just address it off the top of the back. I wouldn't have known I was doing that loveline for 10 hours yesterday. Mo's like, oh, we're getting a lot of hate. And I was like, what did we do? Like, what did we say? I thought we were being like, careful, whatever. And that was the wrong thing. I. Yes. I need to research more. When Oscar's not here, I have no research. I see something, I don't know what it's about. Okay. Yeah, it was. Yeah. I don't know. I need. I thought the whole thing was about the girl with the bangs, and she's like, I hate the bangs. You can't talk to me like that. And so I was like, oh, that's crazy. There's more. I mean, obviously people who are friends with people underage, I think is weird. I didn't know all that. I don't know the extent of it.
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People are calling it layers.
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Yeah.
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There's also.
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Do I. How do I research? Do I deep, like, what do I do this? I don't. You know, I don't know. I'm sorry. Oscar, do you want to add anything without being crazy?
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Oh, I think it's. I'm so fascinated by it. Obviously it's hard to, like, be objective because, like, I know Brooke, but from just like the outside, I'm so fascinated by it because it's so layered. The. I wouldn't. I don't even know if it's like. I don't think it's a hate train really, but the criticism, because it's like, it's like a pyramid. Like a food pyramid, but a hate pyramid almost. It's like you have the layer of people who just, like, dislike you because of, like, for whatever reason, the way you look, the way you talk, mannerisms, whatever. Okay, so you have that layer and then with, like, the racist tweets, and you give, like, the people in the layer below, you give them a reason to, like, moralize their, like, hate for you, which is, like, always intense. Then you also have the people who were, like, neutral or liked you but then are now dislike you because they see you differently based off the tweets, which makes sense, obviously. And then the stuff with her now fiance, Miles, like, I remember when they went public, it was like all this stuff came out about, like, his friendship. Friendship with a model, Isabella. I think he was late 20s, she was like 16, 17. There was allegations that they had a relationship, but Brooke had said, I think on TikTok, that she had spoken to Isabella and she was very confused. And Isabella said they never were in a relationship. So there is that, I guess. But. But, but very least there's still like, photographic evidence of them, like, like hugging each other or in bed together. And there's like Instagram comments and stuff that are still up, which at least shows that, like, maybe they weren't in a relationship, but the friendship at least with someone in their late twenties with like a six, a high schooler, a sixteen year old, that at the very least is weird. And I think Brooke just got very defensive back then and also today.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Because, like, to refute everything, like, yeah, maybe the relationship was in there. But you gotta at least admit that friendship was weird. Especially like without everything we know now about like age gap dynamics and like the power dynamics and stuff. You can't refute the photos and the Instagram comments. So you have to at least like.
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On up to that part or not say anything. But I wasn't. I wasn't.
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Yeah.
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Which is period.
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Yeah. Yeah. Very.
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You know, because she wasn't a part of. Look, I didn't know all this either. Like, I like knew about kind of that and I was like, I don't know what glass you wanted. The whole Zach justice thing, that was like, that tormented me. Dark. It was around this time I was thinking, yes, I was like, so I didn't know. And also I was like, I don't know this person. I didn't know all of it.
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Yeah, it is. There's also, I'm. I feel like this is just like the spark nose because I don't really know everything either. This is like the bridge that I've learned. And then also it's weird. And I also have a hot topic kind of related to this, this Raina, like this, the power dynamic and how like age gaps were like very normalized early to like 2000 and tens as we. It wasn't that long ago. But it's weird how normal it was because like, I guess the thing with Brook's fiance, Miles was he had a friend that was dating Sophia Richie and the. The girl. Why am I forgetting her name? I'm so sorry, I'm forgetting her name. But she was friends with Sophia, so they're like in this like influencer celebrity friend group. But Sophia. And again, I'm not going to make a victim out of Sophia Grange, but she obviously the most high profile relationship. She was barely 18 when she was dating Scott Disick and that was a 15 year age gap. She was 17 when she dated a soccer player who was 12 years older than her.
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Right.
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And then I think she was 16, 17 when she dated Miles's friend. And there's a four year age difference, so he would have been like early 20s and she would have been a teenager. So. And no, no one raised a red flag. I mean, Kylie Jenner was at 17 being very public about dating Tyga and no one said anything. It's just weird how normalized it was. I'm not excusing it, obviously. I'm just saying that like he. Maybe Miles didn't think anything weird of it because it was so normalized around that group.
B
But even in retrospect, like Hillary duff was what, 16 when she was dating like Joel Madden and like it was very, like very out there. They're dating people.
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Very common knowledge.
B
Yeah. Lindsay with Wilmer was like 17.
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Yeah, you're right. Even Demi Lovato.
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Yeah.
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With Wilmar Valderrama as well.
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Everyone knew. It was like really nothing.
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Miley Cyrus had a boy. God, I forgot his name. His name is Justin something. He was in the Love Story music video. But he was a model and she was 17. He was like mid-20s. Yeah. And everyone, they were very public paparazzi together. Like there's articles about like Miley Cyrus or Demi, like all these girls dating, like men that are a lot older, but it never processed as something that was wrong.
B
Right.
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It's like, I just feel like now people are just more aware of it. It doesn't excuse it. But you gotta, you gotta acknowledge that the time. Yes.
B
Because my favorite. Everyone loves to come for me. My favorite Elvis Presley, of course too, was obviously like, like, met Priscilla when she was like 14 and was like bringing over to Greece. I mean, again, it's the 50s and yes, of course that's like gross. But it's like the 50s people were doing, I guess like you said, as early as early 2010. And yeah. Context is important. Obviously, like growing from that and like learn now. People. People are aware now, which is good. Yeah, that's gross. But you know, and you kind of.
A
But to the people who are calling out like miles and stuff. I understand. Because like, you still gotta acknowledge like, oh, was weird, you know?
B
Yeah.
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You kind of have to. You can't just say, oh, it was absolutely nothing. Because it is. There's still like. Like I said, the photos and comments and everything that still show a relation, like a friendship at the very least.
B
Yeah.
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Of friendship that was weird and shouldn't have really been a thing, you know, so. But it's also. It's so complicated because you don't want to like, turn, you know, girls like Sophia. Yeah. And you know, into like victims when they don't identify as that. So it is hard to like, have that nuance discussion.
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So I think the defense is where it is. So I just want to make sure no one knows I was. I wasn't offending anyone. I'm just like, yeah, it's weird. I don't know. Like, it's weird and that's it. And I don't. And I always said it. I was like. I think just like her in the comments of every tick tock is. I know that'll log off sometimes. And look, this is me. This was. I see it a lot. Oh my God, me just in the comments all the time. It's like sometimes it's better not. The defense is sus sometimes. You know what I mean?
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That makes it.
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That makes it more sus than it needs to be. I don't know. I don't know.
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I get it.
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I did it awful. You did great. Great job explaining.
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I mean, yeah, I, again, that was kind of like the spark notes of bridge, like summery. But yeah, I do agree the comments and I, I get it to an extent, because it does. If you catch me on the wrong day and you're just leaving me a comment, I'm gonna like, I do. You respond. I usually just delete it. But if you catch me on the wrong day, I will go, I will find your. I will go through Instagram, I will see every tweet, every Reddit post. I will go, I will find your LinkedIn. If you're private, I'll hire a private investigator. Scrape your IP and guess. Like, if you catch me on the wrong day, I can be crazy.
B
Oh my God, is that expensive? I want to do that. I've always wanted to do an IP.
A
Search of a joke, but I was kind of fierce, right?
B
So we looked into it one time and it was like, you know, it's like expensive. I mean, I did, yeah, a couple times. Private investigators. Not to go on a tangent here, but private investors are a little. Are they like legal?
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Honestly, no idea. But I love, I love the visual of like, you know, you have a, like the private investigator office and you go knocking and they have.
B
I don't know if they have those.
A
I saw a show that. And she was a private investigator. Was she?
B
Actually, yeah. I don't know. Ours just came to our house. He was very casual.
A
Oh, work.
B
Yeah.
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I would love to be a private investigator. Mostly because I'm nosy.
B
You would be so good because you like zoom in. You're like, what is the tabs they were looking at? Yeah, yeah, it's. I don't know.
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I don't know.
B
Everyone wanted me to talk about it, so I was like, okay, we'll talk about it. You're not clocking anyone's hairdos though.
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Oh, oh, yeah, yeah. With the, the tick tock contrast. Yeah, yeah. I think there's also a fine line, like if you especially. It's the, the pretty curse, I guess in this case instead of pretty privilege, like if you are like a very attractive person. I think it's. It Goes below the bell. Even though, again, it sucks that everyone's commenting on you. The second you go below the belt, then you lose everyone and you lose your argument. So, like, commenting on her baby bangs and her eyebrows, I feel like there were parts of it because it is annoying that when people, like, infantilize her, like, yes, there is criticism there that is valid, but I think saying all because she has bpd, that she can't, like, you know, have a consensual, like, engagement or that she is being, like, manipulated. She's still an adult, so. And it's also just an engagement. Like, she's not getting. It's not like she got a shotgun wedding.
B
Yeah, yeah. Are.
A
And am I wrong? Are there not, like, five shows where everyone wants them to get engaged after, like, 30 days together? Love is Blind, Love Island. Like, all these shows, everyone wants them to get engaged. So she's been in a relationship for a year. An engagement is not the most shocking thing in the world to me.
B
Yeah.
A
So infantilizing her and be like, oh, my God, like, I can't believe it's so fast. That is annoying. I get her on that. But you lose the argument when it. When you have to, like, make your point by going below the belt. But again, I was going back and forth because the Ashlyn, the Tick Tocker, I guess it was more in tune than I thought it was. But actually the Tick Tocker was like, Brooke, like, listen, if you're a public figure, then you have to deal with people, like, commenting on you. Which, yes, is true. But then if you're a public facing Tick Tocker, who. Who has admitted that your goal is to make money by, like, talking about, you know, controversial or, like, hot topics, then you also set yourself up to be just.
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I loved it. She probably loved the bang back and forth. Probably because it went, like four or five times back and forth. And then she's like, I love you, Brooke. Actually, you're so hot and like, my baby. So, yeah, maybe if that's, like, her job, she probably love. It wasn't just like, a regular person who usually gets, like, zero views. It's like, someone who does it.
A
Yeah.
B
So maybe because, I mean, back in the day, I kind of thrived off of it when people would, like, go back and forth like, she didn't seem bothered by it. The. What's her name?
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Ashlyn, I think.
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A
I thought the bangs were a sled. The eyebrows were a sled.
B
I told Jimmy to edit like you could if we. I don't know. I always think of being mean or something. If we're being too mean, edit it down. I don't know. Because who knows what the hell we say by the end of the third hour, Second hour. And he's like. And I said, we talked about Brooke. And he's like, oh, about the bang situation. That was like his first thing. I was like, no, we're talking about the fiance. But then there's something with BB which I didn't even know about that I don't even know.
A
Oh, I really don't know about that.
B
Her best friend overseas because she couldn't book a boat.
A
Oh, that I have not heard about literally at all.
B
There was a whole drama with that.
A
I heard about the Brianna chicken fry thing when it was on her and Josh Richards, right?
B
Oh, Josh.
A
Richard talking about the end of canceled and then Brianna was Just first of.
B
All, oh, no, I just get scared talking about Brianna.
A
Oh. Oh. I thought it was. I was more so Josh. I think it's so funny because he's like, yeah, cancel this ending. I don't really. And then Brianna's like, they hate each other. And Josh goes. I mean, I don't know. Like, they just said it was anything. It's like, I don't really watch. I don't really watch. I just. You know, I see a clip when it's in front of me here and there. I. I can't even fully go in on him. Because you didn't know anything about Brook stuff and you're talking about it, but I thought it was. So I never go in as much as I would like. It's just so funny.
B
We're getting hate on it. I'm like, what? Like, obviously, I know nothing.
A
It's just so funny to be just an average looking, skinny white guy, you know, just to have, like, to not have a clue and just, you know, go on a camera and just talk about things you don't know about. And he's over here.
B
Yeah. He's like, when Dave left, it's like, when. If you leave, you know, it's like, I don't know how to explain a story. I don't know the setup. You know what I mean? So I feel like they're just kind of lost. They're like, wait, what do we do here? Josh is just used to showing up and just kind of like, chiming in now and again. And now he's like, what do you do?
A
I feel like someone there has to be a producer because they have, like, a sheet of paper. So I'm assuming they. Like, before they sit down, they're like, here you go. Here's the stories of the day.
B
I tell you so many podcasts. Do a lot of podcasts. I did. I did a couple. I haven't done one in a while, but, like. Like last year, there was someone who had such a detailed, like, list about me, and I was like, oh, my God. Like, they know so much. And then I realized the host knew nothing about me, but they had, like, an Oscar behind the scenes that typed out a whole full list for them. And I was like, that's everything. That's so smart. I was like, baby, yeah, so you're right. They must have someone.
A
Yeah. And then Brianna is just so fun. I think maybe a little projection there, because she was like, they hate each other. Everything I see, they hate each other.
B
And it was like, oh, she's trying to relate it back to certain Grace.
A
It was giving a little bit of. Because she's like, that's what happened Plan Bri. She said we got all these hate comments and then I just wasn't fun anymore. So it was giving a little plan Brie.
B
That is so funny. I love the tight. I love the throwback. What is that called? Look, I make a lot of things about myself, but it's like what is that called when you make everything about yourself?
A
I don't know what the word.
B
Is it like not narcissist, but is it like. I don't know. I really.
C
Yeah, it is. I mean, self centered. Narcissistic.
B
Me too then, girl. But it is funny. Like something happens and you're like, also me. You know, like, I think it was very. From what I could tell the fault, it seemed very different because her and Grace had a pretty big falling out. Whereas Brooke and Tana are pretty adamant that they are mutually wanting this break.
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
B
As opposed to Grace was like radio silent. Bri was going on tangents about.
A
She was learning things from Bree's Instagram story. Right.
B
It seemed a lot more back and forth.
A
Yeah.
B
As far as I know, they haven't said anything about each other. But she also is. Are they friends, her and Brooke? Maybe she knows more insight. I don't know.
A
No. Well, then there wasn't. Well, Brooke commented on that clip and she was like, oh, people having different opinions equals hating each other. Noted. Which is kind of sassy. Yeah. I mean there's kind of warranted them that you.
B
I kind of love a Brooke comment because if you're. She's in every TikTok. It could happen. She sees.
A
Oh, I actually don't know.
B
I love it. I love. I mean, I get it. We're like all like, brooke, take a break. But at the same time, I love that she's just like has the energy.
A
Yeah.
B
Literally in the weeds.
A
She is in the weeds.
C
There was one person I saw on Tick Tock that was like summering the whole issue and he was like, the main issue is just she takes herself too seriously.
A
Brooke or Brianna? Brooke. Oh, yeah.
C
Because if you don't, you just let things be. Because not that everything matters when you don't take it like it's just taking this too seriously.
B
That might be a little bit of like. Yeah. The. The borderline when people call it out. Because it is. You do think the whole world is like attacking you. You know, it feels like that.
A
Yeah.
B
But like you were saying, like you didn't know about the BB thing. You know, like, sometimes there was something that was bothering me. Like a couple weeks ago where I felt like the whole weight of the world was on my, like, chest. And then, like, yesterday, Tana and Devin were just like, oh, I didn't even know, like, any of that was going on. But, you know, you just feel like everything is just, like. Just about you and, like, caved in and just got like, defend yourself. When in reality, people, I don't know, let people think what they want to think and just also just take a little break.
C
You're not going to change their mind in the comments.
B
You know, comments is definitely the last place to change someone's.
C
The comments. You're just fighting an invisible force that is not wanting to hear your logic. They don't want to hear you. They don't want to hear what you have to say. And you just.
B
It gives so much.
A
Yeah, yeah.
C
And. And they'll do more because now they know you'll be in the comments.
A
Yeah. And those screenshots, they do live forever.
B
Oh, she loves a delete.
A
She loves the lead, too. And I've also been like, that's why I stopped tweeting, because I used to love, like, a little Stan Twitter back and forth. Like, I would go back, I would read, I would go back and forth. But, wow, it just is never ending. Like, once you especially because it's written, you know, so it's like, people will just write back and it'll. You'll just go and, like, in a freaking circle. It's like the snake. What is it? Ouroboros. The snake eating its tail or whatever.
B
Yeah. Wait, what is it called? Ouroboros. What did you say?
A
You know, the snake eating its own tail. So it just.
B
Yeah, but what did you say? Boris.
A
Ora Boris, I think that's what it's called.
B
I've never heard of that.
A
Something like that.
B
Ora Boris. I love that. No, it's true. It's like when I used to feud with, like, Gabbie Hanna back in the day, we'd just be going back and forth on Twitter and videos. It literally consumes days a week, weeks of your life, which is actually insane. And if you do have borderline, which, like, me and Brooke do, oh, my God, it just, like, it, like, eats every second of your life. You're just thinking about it constantly. I'd be up at, like, midnight making a video about Gabbie Hanna. If she responded.
A
It really would. Yeah, not just one. It'd be like, Four.
B
Four.
A
I loved waking up.
B
Just so angry. There's still so many. Like we were never friends, like, just. And it just like it literally drains you. So granted, she may not be at that level, but I feel her. Like I feel the wanting to defend everything, but it does feel so much better when you don't.
A
Yeah, I feel like all you can do is just do your best. And to her credit, I feel like she is like really just trying to put her best foot forward, like as much as she can. Like I saw she did. Did like this one podcast where like she just. She did like address all the racist tweets and stuff and she like unpacked that. And obviously again, it's one of those things where like not everyone's gonna forgive her and that makes sense, but all you can do is just address it and not like hide from it.
B
Yeah.
A
And again, to her credit, it's very lucrative to be like a grifter and go full the other end. Like the top streamers on Twitch, like I would say at least 50 of the top streamers on Twitch are transphobic. Racist. Look at the really people making millions on kick. They're all racist. Transphobic.
B
Really?
A
So wait, what do you mean?
B
That's what I mean.
A
Like, I think that look at the world. Like the. The non racist is kind of like the minority, to be honest. It's like a really sad reality. So it is really lucrative to go the other end.
B
She's been like a Fox News girly.
A
Yeah. I think if she didn't actually like, I think she still had those beliefs, she could easily make the switch and just do her own and go kick and stream and just be a hot big boobed girl. That is does believe those things.
B
Yeah. Yeah.
A
But I think she, from everything I know about her, I think she isn't. So that's why she really is trying to learn, unlearn, etc. So. And I see her try to, you know, do her best for. For like even with the ice rays and stuff. Like I. She was so like affected by it. Just even I think on Close Friends she was posting like what can we do? So you know, because she was so sad about it and then she was posting on her story and then she donated all the proceeds to canceled from the. The big episode to support immigrants. So I see her really trying to put her best foot forward, but just more of that less of in the comments defending. Yeah, you kind of just have to do the best you can and let the people talk. And I think if you do more of that you do a good job, then that's. At the end of the day, that's all that matters. Right? As long as you know that you're doing your best. Question mark. Yeah. That's how you can kind of.
B
You should be your pr. You should be those crisis PR people. You're so good at it. See, this is what we miss. This is what everyone missed. They're like, this was.
A
Who knows? Maybe the comments will eat me up.
C
I don't know.
B
But you're so good at, like, putting things out there.
A
I don't know.
B
But yeah, I'll bet that was good. And seeing all the sides and being educated. This is what college education would do. College educated versus not honest bachelors. But that's good. What's the one lower than a bachelor is. There's one you go for two years.
C
Oh, what is education?
B
Associates or something. Oh, yeah. Because when I went to community college, you could get your associate's degree.
A
I think even that's pretty good, to be honest. Yeah.
B
I'm saying. So when you're saying just a bachelor, I'm like, well, there's also the associates you could have just gotten, but you went the extra two years.
A
Well, I guess my boyfriend has gone an extra three years, so I guess maybe inferior. No, because, I mean, it's so diff. Architecture is very different. I'm like, I don't really care how that house is built, to be honest. So, yeah, that's fine.
C
You can do one thing, but you can't do anything else.
B
We know. We know someone that has their masters. And I'm like, I don't know if she does bleep this Jimmy, but I'll tell. Say she said she swears she has two master's degree. And I was like, like, she's so dumb. I'm sorry, by the way.
C
No, no, we can.
B
We can know. Not cut this part, because that's. The whole thing is, like, this person swears they have a master's, two master's degree, and they're just like an awful person. And also just not smart. And like, this is a bad person. So I'm just like, whatever. No one knows who this person is. It's fine. We don't need to cut it. Obviously. Like, bleep my mouth. Bleep my mouth. But it's like, you know, it just should be put out there. Look, I just said I was like, advocate for college degrees. We love college. Obviously, Oscar versus me. Way more articulate.
A
A degree does not automatically make you. Yeah, yeah.
B
Also now That I know this person. Maybe she's lying.
C
That's what I'm thinking.
B
We should ask next time we see this person.
A
But I also don't know where my diploma is though, to be honest. But.
B
Oh, so.
C
So I could be like, I went to college. I can tell there's a lot of people in college that made it through, but they really didn't learn anything. Like they just. You can easily just, you know, surf by.
B
This person doesn't even know basic. Like literally anything.
C
Like that's common. Many people with education know nothing.
B
There's so many examples. Okay, this person's not watching anyways. But it's just like, so they're so awful. Sorry. Triggered me of the master's part because I remember just like, yeah, hearing they have two masters. Go get your master's degree. Honestly, it's actually a big achievement. Most people are not dumb that do it obviously smart. Probably get paid very well.
A
Here's hoping any architecture firms in the general LA area. We have a recent graduate looking for.
B
That's so exciting. He probably does. Is that a thing? That's a thing, right? Why people to college, they get paid more.
A
I think so, yeah. Yeah. I knew someone who got their masters in social media. Oh. It seemed kind of fake to me. But I guess you can get paid more.
B
Wow.
A
Because you have your masters. I guess. But yeah, that does sound a little.
B
A little bs. You go to a company like, I got my master's social media. You're just giving them viral ideas and.
A
Then this, like sites. Trisha, Paytas, like videos.
B
Yeah, like in.
A
In this video. Tati Westbrook, Dumb as hell. We see here thesis. A dramatic editing thesis would actually kind of eat.
C
I mean, people are doing them on Trisha. I mean, I think if you were counting because I think like by hours. Right? Like if you. If you spend 10 years on a subject, like you have a PhD in social media.
B
That is true.
C
Yeah.
B
That is true. Because like, yeah, these people who just like, use like trending sounds, they might be like, I have a bachelor's in this. Lily Reinhardt just used my sound and I was very excited.
A
Oh, fierce. I love Lily Reinhardt.
B
Yeah, the Hawa. Okay. Right. Is that the one you sent me the. Huh.
A
I love that queen.
B
I love her too. What's she from?
A
She's from Riverdale, but she is like, she's the one that spoke out against like Kim Kardashian, like, keep trying to make herself skinnier at the Met gala. And she was like, honestly, this might get me banned. From the Met gala. But this is kind of crazy. Like, why are we normalizing making ourself unbelievably thin to walk red carpet, like, and normalizing these, like, beauty standards. So she's fierce. She walks the walk, talks the talk. Yeah.
B
She in the one with Zack Efron as the killer. He's like Ted Bundy or Jeffrey Dahmer or one of those people.
A
Let me see. She was in Hustlers.
B
Oh, which one?
A
The blonde one. Blonde, young one, I think she was. Who was it?
B
It. Okay, I know her. I have seen her. I seen her. Obviously, tik tok everything like that. I just don't know what she said.
A
Yeah, her main. Her claim to fame was Riverdale. I think that was like, her.
B
She was married to Cole Sprouse.
A
She dated him. Not married, but he's.
B
He's married now.
A
Dylan Sprouse is married.
B
Where are they at? I want to interview them.
A
Dylan Sprouse? Yeah, I think he's in New York. Actually. Kind of live for Dylan Sprouse and Barbara now. Palvin. Palvin Sprouse or just Sprouse? Yeah.
B
Oh, her. His wife.
A
Yeah, she took his name. She's a Victoria's Secret model from. I think she's from Hungary.
B
Good for. Okay. Nem to dumb. From one Hungarian to another. I am also Hungarian. I think my dad says he's 100, but I don't think I am, so I don't know. What a flex. Damn. Do you ever wonder how they, like, get those girls? Not to say, like, Dylan's not attractive, but, like, you had a Victoria's Secret model.
A
God, they're so cute together. Like, I've edited a million of their interviews because they. They both just are, like, really nerdy. Like, they both love, like, anime and stuff. And, like, they're self. I'm not like, labeling them as nerds. They have, like, self professed, you know.
B
People love me these days. It's trendy.
A
They're like, every time we interview them, like, what's your ideal date? It's like, we just want to be at the couch, like, eating chips and watching anime. And they do very. You guys could it. Actually, they do cosplay. Like. Like, couples cosplays together all the time.
B
Like, anime cosplays.
A
Anime cosplay.
B
I need to watch. I need to follow them. I just don't follow.
A
They're really cute together. I really like them.
B
Anime accounts happening today when this episode is actually.
A
Oh, you're right.
B
A.J. from the Backstreet Boy is gonna Be there.
A
Oh, fierce.
B
I know. I'm so sad.
A
I kind of wanted to go because I don't think I'm doing Comic Con this year. And I feel like the next best is like Anime Expo, but I hear horror stories every time.
B
Wait, why?
A
I think last year it's just like, kind of unorganized. So people. There's like, like just thousands of people trying to get into the Expo. And it's like I'm trying to. What's the politically correct. Some are smelly. I don't know how else to phrase it, but some people.
B
Not bad. A smelly is not bad.
A
But then it's like, hot. It's like 100 degrees downtown. You're tra. You can't even get into the things.
B
You sensitive to smells.
A
Yeah.
B
Oh, you are Bo.
A
I'm very. I was at. At the gym the other day. I was like, in a trifecta of like three smelly men. And I like, how.
B
How are you in a trifecta?
A
Because I was on, like the elliptical, and there was one on the Stairmaster, one on the elliptical to my left, and then one on the bike in front of me, and I was like. I was. It was only elliptical left, so I was kind of stuck there.
B
How do you know it's not you?
C
Oh, you know. You know it's not yours.
B
How do you know usually.
C
Because we usually are not bothered by our own.
A
Yeah.
B
Okay, so you're smell other people. How do you know it was three of them?
A
Yeah, it was one of the three. So kind of guilty by associations. Apologies to the others.
B
And you don't call someone out?
A
No, I'm way too, like. Yeah, I just, like, kind of walk away and inconvenience myself, I guess. I don't know.
C
But do they have any rules in the gym? Like, do people.
A
No, There should be like an anti smelly rule, I guess.
B
You can't tell someone they smell. Kind of rude. Yeah, some people just smell more too. I feel like I sweat more. I feel like I'm just a sweater, which I feel like if I went to the gym, I'd probably smell naturally because I just sweat. Sweat so much. I'd probably like.
A
But you got that good deodorant from CVS. Yeah.
B
$10 at CVS for that. It's so the tariffs.
A
Damn. Wasn't it cheap? Didn't used to be cheap. Or not.
B
Yeah. Dry idea was like $2. Specifically. CVS is like $12 and it's only sold out. People love dry day. What do you use?
A
I My own is dove, but most of the time I use Darian's and his is degree.
B
Oh yeah, that's a very popular men's one. Yeah, we share the dry idea. Did you start you dry dry idea because of me? Me?
C
Yeah.
B
It's good, right? It like never. It literally doesn't smell like I. I'm a sweater and stuff and I feel like it never. It like lasts all day. If I go like one more day, if I just do my spray the next day, like it seems to last. And if I don't use it then I'm like. Like I do start smelling myself. So it's like. Cuz sometimes you forget, right? Like I just for. Oh, I forgot to put deodorant. And then you like smell it right away. And I was like, damn, that stuff really does work.
C
Because I used to switch once every year because they didn't really. I didn't feel like they worked. Worked well enough. And once you get me on that one, that was just the best one.
B
Now I'm a hoarder. I get like 10 of them when I go to the store because sometimes they're sold out. So I like hoard these dryers.
C
Also I don't like smells like if the in this deodorant doesn't have.
B
Yeah, it's a little unscented.
A
Oh yeah.
B
It's gel. It's great. I love it so much. We share, but when we go on vacation we bring two because we love it so much. We use so much of it.
A
Well, I think you sell it so hard that that's why it's sold out. Hashtag not partnered.
B
But I want to be partnered by dry idea.
A
That would be great. Not even hashtag gifted.
B
Oh, would love hashtag gifted. I think hashtag gifted. Jurgen send me stuff. Yeah, I love a hashtag gifted for sure. Olipop. Hashtag what does hashtag spons. And it's good. I love it. Oh my God. I really do buy it at the store. Not to be like that person, but I really do. It's so good.
A
And some people thought the Megan interview was spons or hashtag partner, but really it was just hashtag journalism. Honestly, journalism.
B
I wasn't even do it. Hashtag Oscar. Jimmy was like, gotta do it. I was like, okay. And it is everywhere.
A
Yeah. I really, honestly, I was like, damn, this movie's gonna do so well and everyone's gonna come knocking on your door the next chicken shop date.
B
Yes.
A
But then it bombed at the box office. But I don't think that's your fault.
B
No, I think mine helped.
A
Maybe it would have been worse.
B
Yeah. Everyone is, like, so cute, so invested now. Like, five nights at Freddy Beef. I keep seeing those edits everywhere.
C
We planted the seat for that. I think when that happens, it's gonna break the box.
B
I could interview Freddie Fazbear. Maybe you'll be.
A
If they do a crossover, maybe you'll be casted in it instead of Matpat.
B
It's you, Matt, that's too busy these days. Yeah. He did eat in Escape the Night.
A
Though, as we've seen. Yeah, that's a good one.
B
Are we reacting today to another escape tonight? Are we?
A
We should. Or maybe, I don't know, do people over it? I don't know.
B
I don't know. Did you read the comments?
A
No, I just posted and left.
B
You said bye. Well, I'm so curious because we did talk about not love on Ashes. I told Hannah we watched that one episode, and now I want to watch back at it too, because I was.
A
Like, I do want to see Tanner escape the night.
B
I do.
A
Yeah, maybe we should.
B
We need to get a new screener of the new one. I need to see that first episode.
A
Where is the new Escape the Night? It's been a long time, but we.
B
Were saying that we watched season three, episode one because Oscar said that's the best season. So we watched the first episode of that one, and even those scare actors for that show, or the actors that were hired, like, they were pretty rough with the contestants. I would also be scared. I get it's like, acting and you, like, signed up for it, but damn, they'd be throwing some people into, like, the trailers, the clowns, like, literally holding that. I might be a little scared if someone's grabbing me.
A
Yeah. Yeah. And I'm very curious. I mean, maybe one day Sofia Nygaard will write a book. She's too classy and above drama. She's never spoken out about her experience, but the fact she. She never promoted it, I'm like, something happened.
B
It is dubious because it's scary. And I get it. It's like actors, but it's not really fully scripted. So it's kind of like this weird reality show where people can, like, grab and touch you and scare you, but also, like. Like, didn't really consent to it.
A
Yeah, well, I guess. I mean, maybe it's in the contract. I have no idea.
B
That's the thing. It's like, you consent so much, but also it's like, what if someone's, like, grabbing you someplace and like, well, I don't want that.
A
Yes.
B
You know. Yeah, it was a little arm pull or something.
C
Well, the comments, they do want you to react to more.
A
Oh, work.
C
They say at least. At least to the first two episodes of each season. Some said the last season was the best one.
A
Okay. They definitely want more.
B
Great. Because I do what season one is, Shane, and I want to see that episode. And then season two, Tana comes in and I think she's also in season four. We watched season three. Watching the first episode I think is enough.
A
Yeah.
B
Although I always do want to know who sent home. It was a cliffhanger.
A
There's this one, I forget his name. This one straight man who reacts to like movies he. Or shows he doesn't watch the show, but he watches like the first episode and the last episode and that's kind of teeny. Maybe we should read his nachos. Yeah.
B
Have you seen Desperate Housewives?
A
No.
B
That'd be a good one to react to. I love Desperate Housewives. My favorite. When you hear Lululemon, you probably think of Align yoga pants. Weightlessly soft, like you're wearing next to nothing. That's why you see them in class, at the grocery store and in the park. But did you know about skirts with built in liner shorts so you can still jump for the Frisbee and tanks and bodysuits with Align's iconic stretch, you.
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C
Like last of the last at the end because there's like two different worlds.
B
Everyone either like most people hated the Lost ending. I like loved it. But everyone's like, that was like the worst finale ever. So it would be interesting to see. And then people love the first episode of Lost. Like it's like. Cause it's J.J. abrams. So it's like this like big plane crash. Like it looked like A movie. And then the last episode people really hated and I loved. Oh my God, that's. I need to bring the Lost podcast back, I think. Cause I really enjoyed that one.
C
I was talking about do a deeper, deeper dive into.
B
Yes. Cause I didn't do every episode. I was just doing like a few episodes at a time. But I need to really go deep dive into it again. That's our Patreon for the next year. Just watching Lost. Cause it's what, six episodes? And it gets weird. They time travel, they go into the 70s, they go underground.
A
I mean it's very Escape the Night tease.
B
Which came first? Which came first? Escape the Night. Yeah. I think Joey maybe took some like Clue. I think he ripped off a lot of things which again, I rip off everything. But inspired. Inspired. Okay. Yes. I don't know. It's pretty much Clue. His. His show. Or is it Among Us? Is that another one?
A
I think Escape the Night was before among us.
B
Traders too. Traders kind of taking some.
A
Yeah. Well there is the Mafia and that is kind of similar to all these things. So the concept is not original. Yeah.
B
Who started the concept?
A
I think maybe the game Mafia might be the oldest right before. Cuz I remember that game like back when I was in like middle school we would play it.
B
I don't remember it at all.
A
It was like one of the. There was like. I mean, I think there's an actual game game, but like the playground game was like. It's a group of you. One or two of you are like secretly the killer. And then you have to figure out who like you would tap someone to kill them.
B
And they let you play that at school?
A
Yeah. That's at all.
B
Where like. Are you like the first to be off?
A
I'm sure I was at some point. Honestly. Yeah. Then you're kind of stuck there just sitting there watching everyone play. That kind of sucks.
B
Yeah. I don't like those group activities at all. Not my thing. But we should play Minecraft. I mean not to go back to the movie, the game we should play. Because that would be fun.
A
Yeah. I've never played Minecraft. I think it's fun. Yeah. Like us. So.
B
Yeah. Kelly said there's like a way we can like all play. Like even if I'm on her computer and you're with Jimmy, like we can all play together.
A
Oh, work.
B
Because like, I mean we could do it here, but we don't even have anything set up.
A
Yeah.
B
Someone who knows more. I don't know who knows more about Minecraft. I thought maybe Jimmy knows more.
A
Yeah. Toss up between the two. I feel like they're both pretty good with that stuff. Yeah, I don't know.
B
I don't either.
A
Shows that you probably have never seen Pretty Little Liars. Have you ever seen it?
B
No. You said there was weird things with teachers on this.
A
Yes.
B
Okay.
A
I've keep. I meant to bring this up both episodes last week, but I forgot because they did a little reunion interview. The cast of Pretty Little Liars. And they talked about the now infamous, I guess plot line where one of the teenage characters was in a relationship with her teacher, her English teacher. It was the ship Ezriel. So Ezra and Arya.
B
So people were shipping this couple. They loved it.
A
It was big. Hashtag Ezra. That's what I'm saying again. Yeah, yeah. The time, early 2000 and tens. I was in high school watching this, living for the fantasy of her dating her English teacher because he was hot.
B
You know, Can I say millennial relation to this is like Never Been Kissed, the movie with Drew Barrymore and Michael Vartan. Michael Vartan was like her English teacher and she was supposed to be like a 16 year old high school student and they like fall in love and they're like on a Ferris wheel and check. You're just saying that because you're my teacher. He's like, I shouldn't say that because I'm your teacher. And they're of like bunch a about to kiss and everyone's like rooting for them to be a couple. And I'm like, well, she's literally a high school student and you're her teacher.
A
Yeah.
B
So it is in that same thing. Yeah. People were like loving that romance.
A
Yeah. This was so like normalized. I. No one really thought anything of it really until I think the people like the teens watching it grew up and were like, actually that's pretty weird, you know?
B
Yes. Yeah.
A
Mr. Shoe Vibes even worse, I guess because it was like, I mean, this is the pilot episode. How it happens is she sneaks in, she's like 16, she sneaks into a bar and then she like hooks up with this guy. She lies to the guy and says that she's in college. Whatever.
B
Yeah.
A
And then, then they. She goes to class the next day. It's like the first day of school. And then it's the guy that she hooked up with, like her teacher. And then. But then obviously at that moment he finds out, oh, he lied and is my student. But then it was like, like, I don't think this was the intent. When the show Started, but like seasons later, it turns out that he.
B
Knew.
A
That she was 16 and like he wanted to like go after like this friend group and that he kind of groomed her. So they made him evil at one.
B
Point, but people still liked him.
A
But then they retconned that and ended up getting married at the end.
B
Ew. So they continued dating. He's like, is my student. But also.
A
Yes, they continue dating. And then they were end game. Like they ended up getting married and people loved it. People. Hashtag Ezriel. It was the great crazy.
B
Oh, I hate it so much.
A
But yeah, so they did a new. They got together to do another interview with the Hollywood Reporter. Who the cast of pll. So it was. Yeah.
B
Is Ezriel in there?
A
Yes. Lucy Hale was Arya. I'm forgetting Ezra's name. I have it in here somewhere.
B
Yeah. I want to know who played him.
A
Oh, Ian Harding. Ian Harding. Ian Harding, yes. He was Ezra Troy and Belisario was also in it. Ashley Benson and Shane Mitchell, of course.
B
Okay. And Sasha Mitchell, the one who does bass travel.
A
Yes. Yes.
B
Was she new or is that someone else?
A
She was in season one of you. She was Peach.
B
Okay.
A
And Sasha Tiercy, she was in Dancing with the Stars as a pro or just. She was a celeb on Dancing with the Stars. But she was also in this interview. But yeah. So they got asked about, like, how they feel about this like plot line now and how many years later. I think it was like the 10 year. 10 years since it ended. Let me see. Let me fact check though. I was in high school when it.
B
Started, so yeah, I missed this era for sure.
A
2010. It came out.
B
This is the era I missed Twilight, Justin Bieber, like I'm definitely out of this.
A
And it ended in. Damn. It ended in 2017. It went on for a long time.
B
That's a long time.
A
So like. Oh, so 15 years. Yeah. Is when they did for this interview.
B
They're in the 30s now.
A
Yeah. When they also like Lucy Hale. I mean she just always looked really young because she is 36 now. She was 19 at the time. And Ian Harding is 38 now. So really there's only a two year age difference in the actors.
B
Okay. That's very. It is Mr. Shu and like Liam, Michelle, like they were like close in age.
A
Yeah. So they're close in age in real life. But like, obviously they're playing like student teachers relationship. Lucy Hale said it was a different time. Would that storyline exist if I were. If it were being made now? I'm not sure, but probably not. At the time I was cast as aria, I was 19 years old and I wasn't really thinking about the bigger themes of it all. I was just stoked to be cast in a TV show. Of course, it hits differently at my age now, and I think about the bigger message in anything I play. I don't have regrets, though. I stand by their love story forever. That forbidden love story drew a lot of people in, and Ian Harding feels similarly. He said, what we try to demonstrate over and over was that there was a meaningful connection between the two. Hopefully that was enough to justify the deeply problematic relationship. That was certainly not great at the time. Especially as society has progressed, we realized how widely inappropriate it was.
B
I mean, I don't know. Again, I don't know if defense is the best mechanism. Like, you know, defense is not the best defense here. I feel like. You know what I mean? I feel like you can say stuff like, who is it? The director of Slumdog Millionaire was like, I don't think I'd be the one directing at this.
A
Yeah.
B
You know, and he's like, as I shouldn't be. Because it's like, not my culture. You know what I mean? Yeah. So I think there's like, some power in being, like, just saying that was gross. Wouldn't be made a day. It's like Glee. I don't think anyone's defending the Glee storylines because they're so racist on that show. And like, yes, it was like a different time, but I think, like, defending it now being like, I stand by it. Do you? Because that's saying it's okay now.
A
Yeah. And it's weird because he is, like, kind of on the fence. He's like. He does say it's like, purposely taboo. He said we're playing into the fantasy. I certainly had the teacher fantasy thing when I was in high school. But at the same time, just because you depict something on TV doesn't mean you condone the behavior.
B
Because of these shows. Oh, my God. It's because of these shows. When people, like, talk about me being like, in love with my teacher and stuff, it was because of this weird media back then. Like Taxi driver, like a 13 year old falling in love with a 50 year old Harvey Keitel. Like, it's those Kate Fear, Juliette Lewis being 13 falling in love with like, the inmate Robert De Niro who's like 30, like sucking on his thumb. Like, it's because of the media. So, like, your show is contributing to a whole new generation. Not to be like, Upset about this but like thinking that this is cutesy. Like it's the. Of course it was the fantasy because he's like I had it too. Because yeah we're taught that the graduate doesn't. Hoffman in 1965 is like the guy falling in love with his. Like a high schooler falling in love with his female teacher.
A
You know I think too it depends like cuz obviously I think there's some like movies and stuff where they show like age dynamics. But that's like the point and is to call it out. But so it's not like any age gap in media equals bad but for Pretty Little Liars it was a show that was literally marketed, made, produced for teens. It was on ABC Family.
B
Yeah.
A
So like the whole. Obviously that's going to hit a demographic that is very impressionable.
B
Like.
A
Like you said for me too. Like.
B
Yeah.
A
So I was in high school when it came out and they. We had a hot math teacher and he was straight obviously but. And married or engaged and. But I had such a crush on him and I was like. I was like o my pll Fantasy. You know what I mean? Like that was my whole like thing in my head.
B
You're like such a normal person. Like look, people think of mine's trauma but you're like a normal person. Good parents, you know, easily impression.
A
Like impressionable I guess. But I was like ooh, that's fantasy. Yeah. And then the gag is because he was like. I think he was like a baseball coach or he was one of the sports coaches too. And he was like the cool. Like he was must have been like maybe late 20s, early 30s. So like not too old I guess. But he was like the cool one that everyone kind of had a crush on. Everyone kind of knew and he. The guys were. It was like broing with the. The guys, you know, one of those. And then the guy gets it came out like maybe like eight years later. Like one of the girl one year younger than me came forward and said that she had a relationship with him and. And she like he was. I think he was just engaged at the time but then they ended up being married and had. She was pregnant.
B
The student?
A
No, his wife. Yeah. So he was pregnant while. Or his wife was pregnant while he was having an affair with. She was a year younger. So like a 16, 17 year old that. But she didn't come forward like obvious and obviously it took her time to process her trauma. I'm not saying, you know, shame on her for waiting but like the fact that.
B
No, because like when you do come forward, don't people don't believe you at that age?
A
Yeah.
B
You can come forward at 33 years old and people don't believe you. Like it's so crazy. And like I love, I don't love it. No, but when like you're sharing the story, right? And it's like people will be like, trisha, liars just. She over exaggerates, whatever. And like this is coming from like a different person, different state, whole thing. And it does happen. I feel like when I talk about this stuff, people like, that's so crazy. It happened with like three different teachers. Yeah, right. I was like, multiple teachers, multiple students. Like, this happens. It still happens. Someone was like just arrested the other like, oh, some woman was arrested for having sex with her 50. Like it happens so much. And like back then we didn't have social media like the news like picking up on every story. And also like you said, a lot of people don't say things. My neighbor was like our, my science teacher and he, his current wife when we were living there when I was like 10, was like his student when she was like 14. Like it's so, it's so crazy how people think this is like not real. Like how it's like that sounds. No teachers are like that. And like again, not to like bash teachers. I know there's a whole group of people like teach. A lot of teachers are fine. Of course most teachers are great. But I mean three out of I don't know how many teachers, I had 30 teachers being inappropriate. I was like, that's just me. And there's like other students. It's like, that's a pretty high thing. It's a real thing anyways. It's like, it's something to just be aware of. Not to be like obviously scared of every teacher, but it makes me like so annoyed. And then we're like, yeah, and. But I, I do blame not to be that mom, because I remember I did a debate in high school and I was defending the stance that violent movies have impact on real life violence. I was like, that's crazy. Like that's the stupidest thing I ever heard. So I was like defending like Quentin Tarantino movies, all stuff like that. But the older I get, I was like, like, I think they do impact real life violence. Even tax driver. I talked about it earlier. Obviously she's like a prostitute in love with like a 50 year old, like a 13 year old. But the real life girl who played the prostitute, Jody Foster, it inspired her stalker. I Don't know, I guess someone who was so in love with that, with her or that character, he ended up shooting Ronald Reagan, I think, to like impress her. Like it was this whole thing and it was because of the movie Tax Driver, because in the movie Tax Driver, I believe it's Robert De Niro shoots one of the politicians. So this person became obsessed with this movie and Jodie Foster and he ended up like shooting Ronald Reagan. I believe it was Ronald Reagan to like impress her because he wanted to get like Jodie Foster's attention. So all that to say is that movie obviously was a very problematic movie. That was my favorite movie as a kid, which is like so weird. But it inspired it. Like. Yeah, it like not only inspired someone to be real life violent, but also inspired 13 year old me to be like, maybe I should be a prostitute and find like a 50 year old pimp to like fall in love with. You know what I mean? Because you see it, you imitate things, right? You imitate things. Malibu imitates her little games, the little girls on the games and stuff like that. So it's like going back to the Pretty Little Liars tie in. It's like if there's no consequences to the actions. Right? Like if it's like romanticizing and everyone's so obsessed with this duo. Yeah. Like, of course that fantasy of like falling in love with your teacher like gets in your head because you're like, well, that worked out for them. They were like sweet and cute and it was innocent.
A
Yeah. I think like you said, there's no consequences and there's no. It's not like it was trying to bring attention to this, the inappropriate power dynamic. Because some art like does like the. There's some art that tackles it like in a way where it's, you know, highlighting why, like the pitfalls of it or whatever. Like, I guess maybe like one that's debated a lot is call me by your name. Like obviously we just see the Timmy army hammer scenes. It could be like romanticized but like the whole point of it is that, you know, this has failed because of the difference in like age and lives and everything. So like some art, it, you know, does a good job with it. PLL was just like, I mean it was. The whole point of it was like everyone wanting to root for this couple.
B
You know, I need to watch it now. I need to see. I don't know why I need to watch it, to see how it is because it is so wild that it was. Yes, 15 years of a long time ago, but only 15 years ago, because I was just like, I feel like. But I guess not. When you think about Glee, that was probably around the same time, too. They had, like, weird story lines where Mr. Shue was, like, talking to Rachel Berry about, like, he's like, young girl, get out of my mind. My love for you is way out of line. I'm like, this is a weird thing to sing to your student.
A
Yeah.
C
Also, a lot of those projects are not even art. They're actually made by perverts to. To satisfy their own. Like, a lot of art is made in that. In that line. So it's like movies, TV shows. Don't forget about Nickelodeon. You know, like, everything they did. Like, people will write and make a whole show just to satisfy their own, you know, desire to have. And we don't know where all the footage goes and what happens with all the footage. And now you see it with reality show. There's, like, cameras in bathrooms and showers and everything. Like, there is an underbelly. There is another side to the industry that we don't even know. Aware of or see. And a lot of that footage of those people, a lot of the things they do is out of sight while a whole movie is made or a show.
B
Let's say the Jenna Ortega one. I'm like, I need to see it. Maybe. Maybe there is a consequence to his action. But the gender. Take one was college, even though she was in college. I guess it's like, a little better. But you're always just like, but why did that movie need to be made? You know, just like, because she was really young and whoever the actor was was, like, really old. And it's just, like, off putting.
A
Yeah. And out of the cast. Only person that spoke critically of it was TRO and Belisario.
B
Love them.
A
Ironically, she played, like, the smart girl, Spencer.
B
Okay, so she's real life smart. I'm the smart one in real life too.
A
But she said that there's something interesting about the fact that they wanted to go into the storyline, and there are a few writers in the room that were interested in playing that out and looking at it as, like, a grooming relationship and following it to that end. But because of the popularity of them as a couple, it was. They didn't go down that path. And when they were finally at a point where they were like, oh, cool, we're finally gonna see the result of this, that it was a little bit of a grooming situation and an inappropriateness to this relationship, it turned out to be a red herring. So there was a point where, like, Ezra was gonna be like, the bad guy, like the villain. But then they pivoted to make him like, like randomly good again. Like, he got redeemed. So he had no, like you said, no consequences. And I think too, like, Troyan is a. A mom, so maybe that has something to do with like, how she looks at it too. Yeah, yeah.
B
Like hindsight, you're just like, oh, like, yeah, with videos. Like, oh, should I made that video?
A
Yeah.
B
Weird.
A
But it is interesting to see that at one point they were gonna be like, they were gonna call it out and like, point out.
B
Yeah. Why did they switch that?
A
Just cuz the audience loved them together, I guess. But your audience is teenagers, so you got to tell.
B
Yeah, I think they should have definitely made like, a villain for sure.
A
But it's so weird. It was like, literally my favorite show. The first, like, few seasons are like my fave.
B
What's like the overall. They killed somebody.
A
The overall plot of the show.
B
Yeah.
A
Is a group of friends. One of them goes missing, slash dies. But then at the funeral, a year later, after she disappears, they found her body. And then the group of friends starts getting these, like, texts from like, a stalker that's threatening to, like, expose their secrets, but it's secrets that only the girl who died knew. So they're like, how could she possibly know?
B
Did you actually die? That girl.
A
That girl. It's Crash. That was crazy. She's alive, she's dead. She has a twin, and Spencer has a twin. And then it's like this. The teacher is evil, but then he's actually good. The show is crazy. The show loses the plot. Like. Yeah. Because they just wanted to keep it going. It's a whole group of people.
B
Oh, it's that not just one.
A
No. I mean, at first it was like Ashley Benson's friend Mona, and then it's Allison, then it's Allison's back, and then it's the final. A was Troy and Bellisario's Irish twin that we had no idea existed until the final episode.
B
I hate that. Like, just throw on a random character.
A
Make up a random character. After. After seven years, I was pissed.
B
I hate that. I hate that. Yeah. Yeah.
A
And she had a cockney accent. I was like, oh, my God. It was crazy.
B
That's such lazy writing. I hate that so much.
A
It was bad.
B
Who is this person?
A
It was bad. It was very bad.
B
Hate it.
A
And the fan theories of who it could be were better. So the show was really a mess. The first two seasons did Kind of eat. Despite the problematic relationship, they were good. But after that, the plot was lost for sure.
B
I have no interest in watching it.
A
But the gag is they said they're all game to do a 15 year, like, reunion movie. Maybe that's why they're talking so nice about it.
B
We want this to come back. I don't think we need to see it. I don't know. Not trying to be a hater. And look, I understand the writing of it because, like, the actor who plays the teacher says, like, we all had that fantasy. But why did we have that fantasy? Why are we still writing about it? I think we need to, like, stop, because.
A
Yeah, and when they rebooted Pretty Little Liars. This is so random, but they rebooted it on Max for, like, two seasons, and one of the girls was pregnant. And then they were like. I think Maya, you know, Maya Mitchell, she's like, no, she's. You know, that gif. Of, like, the little girl who, like, has. There's, like, a mannequin next to her or, like, an evil doll or something.
B
An evil dog.
A
Anyway, but she's the.
B
She's the girl.
A
She was the actress that, like, was playing the pregnant girl, and, like, she was gonna give her baby up for adoption, and they were gonna write, like, the. That Arya and Ezra, like, adopted the baby. And she was like, no, like, I don't want. So she put her foot down. She's like, no, Ezra cannot adopt even her fictional baby.
B
She's like, I don't want that to happen.
A
Yeah. She didn't want to, like, endorse that, like, inappropriate relationship.
B
Yeah.
A
But she's, like, obviously a lot younger. So the new Jen is with it for sure.
B
The new gen is so with it. They're so much smarter, so much more aware. We love to see it. That is, like, a good thing about, like. Like, older generations, like, dying. You know what I mean? Like, because we excuse old people, we'll be an old people one day. You know? Excuse old people. Right. It's like Paula Dean saying that one's like, well, she's old. She's from the South. It's like, in a way, it's good when they. I guess that is the reason why people maybe die off. It's like natural evolution. How do we make the world better? It's like, because, you know, I know when we're gonna be 80, we'll probably be saying something that's not appropriate.
A
Yeah.
B
You know, because we don't know. We don't keep up with it. But, like, like, we'll be diagnosed because.
A
Maybe fat will be a bad word by the time we're in.
B
Oh my. I'm gonna get canceled so much. Like, can you. Your mom said fat so many times. You know, I would love for it to be a bad word. I would love for people to be like chastised for it. That'd be amazing. That's. My stance is like, that needs to be banned, but you know. Yeah, I guess that's why it is. You know, just older generations, they're just. They don't learn, they don't evolve, you know, that's why I like this new age of like writers and producers and people in power. They know what's up, they know what to like, market and put towards. And that's me. I love them so much.
A
Well, speaking of fatties, Drake, did you see his latest selfie?
B
He's fat. What happened?
A
Did you see his shirtless selfie?
B
Moses told me that the first thing this morning. Drake's abs are on my high topics. I'm like, what are you talking about?
A
I'm glad they're on your hot topics, cuz they were the top of mind. Literally the number one.
B
What? Let me see them.
A
I even zoomed in so you can. Cuz it was kind of far away, but I zoomed in. Let me turn my brightness all the way up because you're really good.
B
Okay, okay.
A
I know your eyes are bad, but they are.
B
I see them though.
A
Well, he's been clocked for a long time for like having fake like plastic surgery abs. Allegedly. There's no proof of that, but it's just been claimed a lot lot, so. And these abs look weird. They almost look too defined for someone who's really.
B
I thought they look like literally. I'm not just being funny. Like, Jason Rule is always shirtless, doing his morning routine. It looks like his, like, I'm like, oh. It just looks like they worked out together.
A
I think his abs are so defined. But then like, there's no like lateral, like, because usually when you're that like ripped, you have to work out other parts of your body, you know, so he has no, like, there's not a lot of like bicep, tricep muscle. There's no like shoulder, like lateral muscles.
B
Maybe he's just doing sit ups, but.
A
He has like the, the under boob kind of for like the chest. So it looks very much like sculpted.
C
Even Kendrick Lamar sang about it.
A
Yes, even Kendrick, Megan, the Stallion.
C
Everyone sang about his song. He was like, tell everyone where you bought Your abs from.
B
How do they know he bought them?
C
You know how it is. There's always rumors in the industry. People know.
B
And he just posted this selfie. Or it's an old one.
A
This is a new selfie. Yeah, from this weekend.
B
And what did he say? Not for fake.
A
Well, he didn't. It was like a photo dump. So it was just in there. Sneaky in there. But all the comments were calling it out. Cuz the rumors go all the way back to 2016, when Joe Button tweeted that.
B
Who's Joe Button?
A
I guess a media personality. I don't know him, but change that name.
B
Sounds like Joe Biden. It does sounds like a snl.
C
I thought it was more the movie of, like, the Mysterious case of Benjamin Button.
A
Benjamin Button.
B
Joe Button.
A
He claimed that he. That Drake privately saw Dr. Miami. He tweeted that Drake got his stomach sculpted because he saw Dr. Miami and didn't tell y' all. Hip hop is weird now. And then Pusha T also said something similar. And a Drake diss track. He said, there's a lyric called that said surgical summer with it. Snips, snip, snip. Which it was. That was in a Drake diss track. Another dish. Drake.
C
Wow.
A
Drake has a lot of diss tracks. DJ Carnage also dropped a line that was like, you got fake AB surgery in Colombia. You ain't fooling anybody.
B
O. Columbia is the place to go to get that surgery. They'll, like, suck all the fat out of you.
A
And then Kendrick Lamar in the song Euphoria said, let your core audience stomach that, then tell them where you got your abs from. And on another song, meet the Grams, he said, you lied about your surgery. And then Megan the stallion on Hiss said, all these rap little. All these little rap bleep so fraud. These bleep hate on bbls and be walking around with the same scars because Drake has, like, was really shady about other women's plastic surgery.
B
Who was he shady about? Okay, so it's kind of warranted then, I guess. This hate, it feels like an unwarranted hate train. But maybe he's also talking about. About people's bodies.
A
No, Drake kind of sucks, so.
B
Oh, really?
A
Yeah.
B
You love Degrassi, don't you? Like, love that show?
A
I loved Degrassi. Yeah. I don't know how well it ate. Oh, at least they were doing problematic things. But pointing out that it's not good. Like, that's how I learned don't give too many blow because you will get gonorrhea.
B
Oh, that was a very common theme. She's too young for him, too. It was about syphilis. You gave too many at syphilis?
A
Yeah, because my favorite character was. She learned about blow, and she was sucking anywhere she could, and then she got gonorrhea. And I was like, damn, you got to be careful.
B
Same girl from Degrassi that was in the movie about syphilis?
A
Miriam McDonald's.
B
Is she blonde?
A
Yes.
B
Look up. She's too. She's too young. And then type that girl's name in. This was my favorite movie growing up. Like, it was literally this girl giving so many blow the high schoolers. And she kept being syphilis. I'm not telling anyone. That's gross. Like, it was so weird.
A
You're right. It is Miriam McDonald. Why is she getting all. She got typecasted as the blower, and.
B
Then she had, like, a sexy little sister, and she was, like, teaching her how to be sexy. And she's like, we got to. She goes. She goes, how many guys have you been with? Her name was dawn. And she's too young, and she's like. She's like, just give a rough number. She's like, I'm counting Sheik. 17. I was like, oh, my God, 17 blowjobs as a freshman is crazy.
A
Oh, my God.
B
But she got syphilis and gonorrhea, I guess.
A
And see, at least there were consequences.
B
Poor girls.
A
I know. She really got Ted.
B
She didn't look like anything to me. Maybe that was. The whole point is, like, she looks.
A
Just like in Degrassi. She was the good girl. Like, really? Again? Again, Nerdy, academic. And then she hit puberty, and then she got hot.
B
And then she.
A
Yeah, then her friend was like the really hot, like, bomb, like, sex siren bombshell. And then she was like, I want some of those nachos. And she just started to suck in any way.
B
She does kind of this one, too. She had a hot bombshell friend that was sucking everybody. That's crazy. Wow. Okay, maybe she wonder she's still friends with Drake.
A
She. I think a couple years ago in a Drake music video, he reunited that. Reunited the Degrassi cast. But that was a few years ago, and I feel like Drake has gotten less cool since then. Like, post Kendrick Lamar, right? I feel like everyone was, like, so.
B
Cool at one point. Remember you used to call me on yourself?
A
Yeah.
B
People love Drake.
A
People wanted to fly with him to basketball games. Like Corinna.
B
Oh, right. He flew out the girls, right? And it was kind of a flax, like, oh, Drake.
A
Yeah. Now it's like, ew. Drake flew out.
B
Really?
A
I think so he flying out anybody? So I'm like, really?
B
You think he's. That's.
A
How old is he probably. How old is Drake now? He must be.
B
Doesn't claim him. When I went to Toronto, I was like, we love Drake. And then was like, no, they love Justin Bieber.
A
He's 38.
B
He's older than me. That's old.
A
Too old to be up to these antics.
B
Well, I'm not for A plus surgery abs if it makes you feel better.
A
But yeah, but then don't be shaming the girls. Cuz then he was right.
B
He was.
A
Did the Megan the stallion diss track where she. Where he like made fun of. Of her, lying about her like, work that she got done or whatever. So I'm like, but look at you.
B
Yeah. Guys coming for girls is looks always gonna be ick. Like, I think it's like, whatever. We have the patriarchy. That's not fair. We can have a little sexism where it's like okay for girls to like come for the guys, but I don't know about the guys coming for the girls looks. You know what I mean?
A
Especially with those abs. It looks like a freaking. It looks like a silicone like muscle suit.
B
You don't like them? I like the abs. I think they look good.
A
It just doesn't look natural. It literally looks like they put like a little muscle suit on him.
B
Right. Like a little superhero. Maybe he's trying to get a super. I like the apps. I like that photo. It covers his face. Like, I think the body is tea, you know what I mean?
A
And he was really zoomed out and it was like a mirror selfie with like the. I think it was a bar.
C
Yeah, it was all alcohol. Alcohol, everyone. We're like, what are you, a teenager?
A
Like, people really coming for him.
B
Who was like the influencer equivalent to Drake. Like, is there an influencer? I guess like Michaela gets a lot of hate for like her POV skincare creation.
C
I thought immediately about Jake Paul with his fake body.
A
He's giving that.
C
Something about his body. Just felt like this fake bodysuit. I was like, is he trolling everyone? And like he does troll people. Like, that's the first thing came to my mind.
B
Oh, you look. Yeah. Why. Why did you bring this up first thing this morning? It was just like your favorite.
C
I just wanted to gauge what your like if it's something anyone cares about, like Drake or.
B
You shouldn't ask me these things. Because honestly, I never care. But people do care about your hot topics. Like, you're the ones you bring up to me. I'm like, I have no idea what you're talking about. But then people will do edits and be like, moses knows. He's so online. So I feel like you should never run it by me because I don't actually know what the people want.
C
I was more in shock because I didn't think guys get. First of all, how do you get abs ab etching? Like, how do they even do that?
B
Little silicone muscles you put in there. Probably it suck it.
C
So weird. And then also, like, when you like, muscles is like something that has a function. So like, if you look strong, let's say, you know, something happens as an accident. People see him like, hey, Drake, you're strong. You have abs. Can you come and lift this thing out of this kid? And he's like, ah, sorry, I can't do it because it's all fake. You know, like, if a girl has fake boobs or fake butt, it's not. It's just more of the same or so. But. But muscle, because you'll see guys that add, you know, like stuff on their.
A
Biceps and plants is really big right now.
B
Oh, yeah, those are big.
C
And to me, it's like, it's. It's worse because it's not even. You know, if a girl has a big butt, it's a big butt. But if you have a. If a guy has big muscles, it's fake advertising. You're not strong.
B
Someone could be like, help me move this mirror.
C
Yeah, you're not actually strong. Yeah, it's. I don't know, It's. To me, it's strange. And that's why. Anyway, that's why I was like, brought it up. Because I was like, what is even fake ass?
B
I love that you care about it. I thought that was good. I like it because, you know, me and my Hot topics are always bad. I'm always like, if I had to my own. I don't know what's happening. Speaking of muscles, did you ever call those two hunks, two college hunks that move things?
C
Not yesterday, no.
B
People told me that that was like a recommended one to do. We're trying to get this big year out.
A
Oh, yes. On your Instagram story.
B
Yeah. People had recommended the two.
C
Yeah. But we're filming every day this week, so it's tonight.
B
Oh, tomorrow we come. I need to get this mirror out. We have this heavy mirror.
A
90 pounds.
C
Can you lift 90 pounds back right now.
A
Don't ask Drake.
C
It's probably more like. It's probably more like 2 to 300 pounds.
B
What? Oh, I need to put that in.
C
I didn't know £90 is like a little person. Like, it's not.
B
Are you saying I'm a big person? Cuz I'm 200, 300 pounds. I'm in the middle.
C
So anyway, anyway, we're not. Anyway, yeah, wouldn't have them come in doing that while we're filming.
B
Well, tomorrow we're only filming for two hours, so we're filming right now. I'm gonna call. I'm just gonna call them. I'm gonna call people if I get it out here. That's all I need. Okay. Anyway, sorry. Well, I like it. I think it looks good. I'm not for.
A
You love a botch, though. You love a botch moment. So I don't know if you're the right.
B
It's botched.
A
It's botched, honey. It is like Superman.
B
The plates, the like, you know, one, two, man, where's the plate, Abs?
A
Yeah, exactly. Botched. Thank you for.
B
I love it. I think y' all are hating on it. Look, and maybe rightfully so. If he's a p, he's awful. Like, okay, yes, let's hate on it. But I don't think it looks.
A
There's just something so cringy about trying to flex that you're like, are ripped. But then it's like, especially when you're Drake who's like kind of like alpha guy vibes, you know, it's like, I get it.
B
It's a little ick.
A
Yeah, it's very egg. In more plastic surgery news, Khloe Kardashian admitted her cosmetic work, which was very giving. It was giving Kylie Jenner giving her the details of her breast implants on Tick Tock a couple weeks ago.
B
What did she say?
A
Chloe commented, granted, this one was shaming her. She commented on an Instagram post that it was like a before and after, like showing her change in physical appearance over the years. And it compared a recent photo of Chloe at the Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez wedding to pictures of her many years ago. And it sparked a lot of discourse in the comment section with people, like, speculating on what work she got done because they think that she looks unrecognizable. But then Chloe hopped into the comments section of the video to share the cosmetic work that she had done. She said, I take this as a great compliment. First off, I think these photos are about 15 years apart. But here's a list of things that I have done. I've been very open in the past about what I have done. So here we go. She tagged doctors and clinics that she visited and with the details on her procedures. She said she got a nose job. She got laser hair for the hairline and everywhere else, Botox and Sculptra, where a tumor was removed in her chamber cheek, soft wave laser for skin tightening, collagen, baby threads underneath her chin and neck, salmon sperm facials and more. And she says, and she hasn't done fillers over the past few years, but she has done it before. And she has also lost 80 pounds. She said in 2025, there are many other things we can do before surgery, but when it's time, and if I choose to, I know some great doctors before. And then she added a little winky emoji.
B
H. Not to add to it, but I do feel like it's got to.
A
Be a little more. Right. A little more.
B
A little more invasive than just a salmon sperm facial. You know what I mean? Like, obviously, like, she lost weight and works out and looks great, but as we've seen with like Nikado or anyone, you know, there's always like a little nip tuck, suck back, whole phase. You know what I mean? Like, you know, they look good. Good. I think it's like we always say this when we watch the Kardashians. It's like you see Kim and then her high school friends come have dinner with her, and you just see them be like, look their age.
A
Yeah.
B
And you're like, oh, my God. Yeah. You see Kim looking like a 20 year old.
A
Yeah.
B
And then them looking like they're 45 year old cells. And you're like, okay. There's obviously you're not just that gifted.
A
She got a BBL or something too, because her.
B
Chloe.
A
Yeah. No, because proportionally it's not.
B
I know. I mean, that's what I'm saying. It's like, you must be like, and I love the Kardashians. I'm never getting a sponsorship with them, but I love them so much. But, like, you would have to be like God's chosen one to only lose weight in your stomach and face, but gain it in the butt, you know, because like, you look at her butt too, from like the original seasons, and it's like, I don't. There's just like no amount of squat because you just can't, like, choose where, like, the fat goes to. You're like, I'm gonna Eat. But it's all gonna go to my. And, like, I get the squatting, but there's just, like, a different shape I know from having a bbl. Like, just the minor one that I had is like, you know, just a little bit of fat added to your hips, taken out of your back. Like, it changes your shape. So it just hurt. The shape has changed. It is. It's frustrating, too, when they try to be real, because it's like, that's so appreciative. Right? Like, it's like, oh, my God, Kylie told us what she got done. Great. But then when you, like, leave out so much, it's. It is frustrating. And obviously, no one owes anything, anyone, but this is another one. Maybe just stay silent on it. Here it is. Here's the rundown.
A
Yeah, it all happens in Instagram comment. Just don't.
B
Just don't. No, and it's so. It's. It's. It's frustrating, that part. Especially, like, the surgeries of it all. It's like, obviously you're getting stuff done. It's not just a nose job. It's just not, like, weight loss. Like.
A
Yeah.
B
You know who is really adamant about not having surgery, and she looks like a completely different person. Cheryl Burke from Dancing Stars.
A
Yeah, she looks. She did a whole interview saying that she didn't get anything done.
B
Nothing. Like, that's crazy. That's crazy. Surgically, no, but the face is different. And, like. I know. I know. It's, like, annoying because everyone's like, why are we talking about the way I look in this? And, like. Because you, like, look different and you're adamantly denying it. I think if you were just like, I'm not talking about my look. Someone talks about it. Maybe Jane Fond or someone is like, I don't talk about any of the work I've had done. Like, just about talking. Just don't talk about it. Just make that, like, a boundary. Don't be like, well, I've had nothing and people need to stop talking about it. It's like.
A
Well, I think a lot of people. Like, there's like, cognitive dissonance where a lot of people think, oh, well, I didn't go under the knife, so I didn't get work done. But then, like, you kind of leave out. You can do a lot with filler mama. Botox, even. Like, I've gotten Botox in my jaw to make it, like, more because it tightens up the muscle here. So, like, literally, even with just bottles. Botox, which, like, is so. I mean, around these Parts you can't go toss a stone without hitting some little talks, you know, so. But people. It's like so unserious, I guess with Botox that people don't consider it work, but it still is a little something.
B
It still work, I think. Love Paris, but I feel like she said recently she's never had Botox. And I'm like, you have no wrinkle. You're for in your 40s. She's like, My mom just told me to stay out of sun. And I was like, I get that, but you have to have a wrinkle at 40.
A
You can't just be a retinol if.
B
You'Re forehead does not move like you've had. And there's like, like you said, every single person's had Botox. Like, everyone gets Botox. Moses, can I see your forehead? Can you push it up? Look, wrinkles. Never have Botox because it's just normal. Like that's like a normal thing, you know? And mine too. If you look back at my videos when I was like 25 and I would like push up like wrinkles. So it's so crazy me when someone's in their 40s and they'll be, I've never had Botox, but then also never had a wrinkle. It's just, it's literally not possible. That's not science. And I just think it's like, it's just, it's. It is so frustrating. I'm just like, either just don't talk about it, but don't say, like, I've never had it. It's so, it's so disingenuous.
C
I've never had it.
B
Well, we see. Which is fine. I love, and I do love when people go, no Botox. Even women, when they do. No, but like, it looks great.
C
Like, you see, I like the lines that form on the face over the years.
B
Guys are luckier. They do look a little better with some lines in their face. And it's so stupid because it's like women do too, but it's like when you don't have it and then you're just like, oh my God, that woman looks old or whatever because they don't have the work done.
A
But then it's also like, it's so funny because people are like that, like, oh, like, why do these women need anything? Blah, blah, blah. But then you have like Lindsay Lohanner and Hathaway. Like, they step out, it's like, oh my God, they look so good. Like, see, this is what happens when you age gracefully and, like.
B
No, I think.
A
And you think Anne Hathaway just looks like mia Thermopolis, like, 20 years later, by the grace of God, likes better.
B
Than she did at 20. It's, like, crazy. Yeah.
A
So it's. I keep seeing this one, like, Instagram reel or something, and I sound like 80 years old, but I see this one real where it's like, they. People shaming, like, Millie Bobby Brown, like, for looking older or whatever. She looks so old. But then they, like, criticize someone for, like, looking too young because they got too much work done. It's like, damn, you're damned either way.
B
I think I don't follow Love Island Tanner telling me that there's one girl who, like, she feels like they set up on the show. She's, like, 21. And how, like, a botched face, basically, she has, like, too much filler and everyone's being mean to her for it. And she, like, feels like she's never been on the show because obviously people are just making fun of her face. And that's so true because she's, like, 21, and everyone's like, oh, what did she do to her face? She, like, messed it up. But then, like, you said Millie Bob Brown, like, oh, she looks cool.
A
Yeah, It's. You're damned if you do, damned if you don't. It's so weird because I always see people be like, oh, she looks. Looks so good. This is, like the natural look. Like, people applaud these, like, people's faces for, like, aging gracefully, but it's like, they ain't Asian. Like, you know, they got a little. A little help.
B
A little help.
A
Nice.
B
Someone with a PhD, facials, chemical peels. Like, you know, Pamela Anderson, the one that people applaud a lot, which I love her, too. Her skin, flawless. But obviously that's peels, that stuff, you know, to reverse age spots. To reverse. Pamela was tanning all the time. You know what I mean? So it's like, yeah, it's beautiful, of course. But also just know that, like, a lot of money goes into that. You know what I mean? I was thinking about after my pregnancy, I'm like, I want to get all these chemical peels. I have so many sunspots, so many, like, blood vessels popped, all these things like that. And it's like, yeah, if you get it, like, scraped off, chemical peeled, then you're gonna, like, look like younger skin. But it costs money. It's burns, it's painful. It's all that stuff like that. So I'm for it. Like, I see Christiana with her face left. I'm like, okay, I'm ready to get a facelift at 40. And I'm sure. I mean, I'm not sure. I don't know. But the Kardashians obviously had some face work done. When you see them next to their friends, not all their friends just aged horribly and they aged perfectly. You know what I mean? Like, it's like. And people pointed out when they look at like Courtney or Kim when they were in their 20s, very tan, you know, not as much work done. I mean, it's just like they look older in comparison because they just, you know, makeup can only do so much and that's no shade. I'm beginning. I said this last time too. I'll be getting a facelift in my 40s. Was gonna look like he's with a 20 year old one. You know, my face is gonna be so young. And, you know, that's. I don't know, that's. That's life. That's why we all got lip injections. Because Kylie, you know, we were all like, we're all on the trends. Bbls we all get because of the, like, you know, we're going with the trends.
A
Yeah. Speak Random aside, but Manny mua. Love him. He tweeted like, sometimes I forget I have a little shelf back there. And he tweeted like a little photo of his butt. I was like, but how can you forget about the bbl?
B
Like, did he admit it?
A
Jaclyn Hill said. I mean, Jaclyn Hill on the, on the podcast.
B
Podcast. Full coverage.
A
Full coverage. Yes. Oh, my God, I almost got it mixed up with basically unfiltered, but.
B
Oh, love that shout out.
A
But Jacqueline said that he got a Manny got a BB house. I'm like, how can you forget if you got a bb? Like, wouldn't you remember?
B
That's so funny. That is so funny. Like, oh, how could I forget it?
A
Nothing like you forgetting.
B
Like, well, maybe he has what I have. Maybe someone in the comments like, I think Trish has early onset dementia. I'm like, maybe. Why are you pointing it out?
A
Today is National I forgot day. So happy national.
B
Yeah, perfect. We can use that for everything. Because I forgot everything.
C
National Just Trace Day.
B
That is more accurate. That is so funny. That's like, oh, I forgot I had big boobs. Like, what do you mean I have?
C
Probably because probably if you do it artificially, you didn't grow up with it. So you kind of.
B
Oh, yeah, he caught a glimpse in the mirror.
C
I Forget it's back there because I'm.
B
Trying to think Escape the Night we watched. Maybe he. It was before bbl. Pre bbl. I don't remember a little shelf back there. I guess I'm not really looking at the butt. Yeah, he did get on that show. He was good. He was committing. Shout out to everyone on Escape the Night season three. They really commit excited. Oh, that's what I was talking to him about. I was like, I could never be on the show. I could. I. I would love to be an actress, but I could never take myself seriously. I'd be like, laughing. She goes, that was my prompt. You should end up laughing. And they, like, hated me for it. Like, stop doing that. Because she's just like, I could not take anything seriously. I could not take any of it serious. And they were taking it seriously, which is like, honestly, again, that's kudos in, like, a really good way. But Joey just being like, the town, it disappeared. Where'd it go? And everyone's like, oh, my gosh, you think they're gonna kill us? Like, it's just so.
C
Sounds like those improv classes.
B
It's. Oh, it's so improv classes. Which is like my biggest cringe in the whole world when I did one improv class. And people just like being so. It gives me the ick. And it's nothing against them. I love people who do improv. But it's those.
C
A few of the comments on the Patreon. They're like, what? You could have never done it if you were. If you actually were there, you would hate.
B
Was giving that. And it's giving like amateur improv. Look, I'm not an improv, so I kudo to that. But it was giving like Michael Scott in the office. Like, all of them just trying for a little bit of cute camera time. They're like, it's so cold. Where's Joey? Why would he prink us here? Like, it was just so weird. And then when the clowns. The clowns are out there, you think they're gonna kill us. Like, it's just so.
A
They're kind of eating.
B
Oh, my God. I know. A whole escape the night asMr. I know. I know every line. Like, that's the mom. That's your mom. We gotta get out. I don't know.
C
They were now even more confused about it than I was before.
B
Oh, my God. And it's. It's bad, but it's production. And like, I was saying honestly, like, I know this sounds like passive aggressive or bad But I'm not meaning it this way. Like, it's actually so impressive that Joey got this show right, because it's really. I think me and Joy are very similar in this way. We both have, like, passions for cosplaying. We want to be actors in movies, but we just lack the talent for it. And I love that he created a show where he gets to be the star no matter what. He's like, I'm the star because I created this. I love that. That's like Danny McBride and all the ones we watch. Like, he's not really good. He's always the same character. I mean, he is funny, but always the same character. But he writes these shows so he can be, like, the star. I think that's what I just gotta do. I think I just gotta write my own things. Benny from overcompensating again, they're good, but just write your own vehicle. I think that's what I need to do. I just need to write my own stuff where I can be the star in it. Because Joey, not good. But also five seasons of a show. And I was like, that's impressive. That's talent. And I think that's what people. We similar. I go on a tour, I can't sing, but here I am selling out Radio City Music hall singing, you know, And I love. I love people like that. So he had production, he had budget, he had a crew. I'm here for billboards. Billboards. That's the real test when you have all those billboards everywhere.
A
Publicist.
B
He had a publicist. Damn. I don't even have one.
A
I think YouTube gave him one or something. Like YouTube had one for the show.
B
Did he ever go on, like, the Tonight show or anything like that to promote? Promoted?
A
I don't know. He just came on Entertainment Tonight, Nexus, Hollywood, where I was employed.
B
But I was gonna say anyone you were a fan of was on there. I was on there 10 times. I thought it was so cool too. Look at all my ET Interviews. It's just Oscar just being like, let's interview Trish. Yeah, I love it. I still. We're still doing ET up until, like, what, two years ago when the strike was happening, Denny directed Come to Our House. I didn't know how big Denny Director was back then when he came to our house.
A
I didn't know we had a legend. Yeah. Star.
B
Legend. He was interviewing Megan too, I think.
A
Oh, yeah, the doll. Megan the doll. Yeah.
B
Yeah. I was like, wow. Me and Danny, director interviewing the same people. Star of Hacks. Yes. He Was. I didn't know he was such an icon. Yeah, I remember he showed up and I was like, you're not Oscar. I thought Oscar was gonna be here. You didn't even show up to that one.
A
You're like, no, I had Covid that one. Yeah.
B
That's why he was great. That was cute. That interview is so funny. Malibu was so little. She's like in her crib. Did we stage that? We probably staged Malboo and her crib. Did we put her in there? We probably did. She's never in our crib.
C
There was one little shot. Yeah, like one. Because we were just hanging out in the room and then, right.
B
We're like, here's Malibu. And she was over it. She was like less than a year or two. I think at that time when we did the interview probably.
C
Yeah.
B
And then we went to celebrate the ET interview at Outback Steakhouse. We all went to Outback. Those sharp drinks, it was. It was an occasion.
A
Celebrate. Yeah.
B
I had nothing going on at the time, so I was excited. They didn't either, apparently. I guess it was the strike.
C
No, we're doing like the shark drinks were. Was a trend back then.
B
Yeah, we got the shark drinks that out back.
A
Oh my God.
B
We were like, damn. We just had a great day. Being interviewed by ET this is the.
C
First time having the. For me, the onion blue. What is called bloom.
A
Blooming onion.
C
Yeah.
B
That's actually really good. I love an Outback. The people who did promoting my shows were Outback back and Jimmy, when he came to the Greek, he's like, I thought it was like. Cuz I gave him like backstage passes or like to come backstage afterwards. And he's like, I thought it was for like the Outback Steakhouse. I was like, no, that's the name of the promoters. It was like Outback. Cuz he didn't know. He's like, I just saw like red stickers that were Outback. Would have loved if he tried to do Outback Steakhouse. I would love if they promoted my next tour. Blooming Onions are good. I don't know if we can postmate one. I was like, we could probably postmate one, but maybe it's too far. It's Oxnard's the closest one.
A
That is kind of fun.
B
Are you an onion person?
A
I do. Like a bloomin Onion.
B
Like a fried onion. Where was it? Was the Fantastic Four coming out with a meal or. No, I tagged. I didn't tag you. I said something. Me and Oscar. You try this.
A
They have like milk Fantastic Four milk.
B
Oh, the blue milk.
A
They have Fantastic Four Little Caesar's Pizza out now. It might be out now. Yeah. And there's a couple other fantastic 4.
B
Things I want to try. All of them.
A
Yeah, we should.
B
Blue milk sounds not good, though.
A
Also, why'd they have to put Vanessa Kirby on the. Why'd they put the mother on the milk jug?
B
Really? Really. I didn't see it.
A
I was like, what?
B
Because she has utters. We do when we're. She's the pregnant one.
A
She's pregnant real life. And in the movie. Yeah.
B
Oh. So she's lactating, so they put her on the milk. I guess that makes more sense.
A
What do you want to Pedro Pascal? I've. Drink that Pedro Pascal milk.
B
Drink your milk.
A
Yeah. From Jonathan Bailey.
B
That's right. How could you forget? I know. Gosh. Oh, my God, it is.
A
I forgot day. Yeah.
B
You're so tea. You're so right about that. I. Yeah. Jonathan Bailey. Can't forget him, though. He's been looking good.
A
Oh, speaking of Pedro Pascal, he was at the press night of Rachel Zegler's Evita in the West End.
B
Yeah, it was last night. I'm so sad. I couldn't go.
A
Were you invited?
B
I actually was. I did.
A
That would have been so fierce.
B
There was just no way I could have gone. Honestly, I would have love.
A
In your condition? I love.
B
Your condition's crazy. I love it literally in my condition, about to literally go into labor. I've like this whole time, like, oh, I would if I was like not pregnant 100%.
A
Would have gone, like, would have found a way fears. Cuz Pedro Pascal was there was Sarah Paulson.
B
It was like a big.
A
It was big. Yeah. Dan and Phil were there, you know, Dan and Phil, the YouTubers.
B
Why were they there? Well, I got invited, so I don't.
A
Know, maybe Garrett Watts too. You know, Rachel loves there. I don't know if he was there, but I'm sure he got the invite. Rachel loves Garrett Watts.
B
Oh, wait, they're friends.
A
But it's so funny because there's the like a Pedro Pascal, like, updates account on Twitter was like Pedro Pascal at press night for Evita. And then Dan and Phil are blocking the shot and then the Dan and Phil fans found it and the Pedro Pascal stand is like, I have no idea who these people are. And they're like, Dan and Phil. Dan and Phil are there still.
B
Dan and Phil stands.
A
They're hard on Twitter. Yeah. So shout out.
B
What do they do? Are they still making content?
A
I honestly don't know. I think so, though.
B
They both came out.
A
Love that, right? I think so. Yeah.
B
I love Pet. Yeah. You were saying they were friends, that they, like, defend each other.
A
And so Rachel Zegler did an interview where she talked about, like, having his support there. And she's like, Petro, she calls him Daddy. She's like Pedro Pascal Daddy. He's like a dad to me, like a genuine dad. She said that when she saw him in the crowd, he. He gave a standing ovation after every single number and was in tears of every time she sang, which is the sweetest thing in the world because he's.
B
Like, so big and such, like, a phenomenon and the support.
A
And she said the fact that he has, like, championed her means so much and, like, she's so grateful to him. And I'm like, I didn't. Because we talked about them before. I didn't know if they, like, were just, like, oomphies or.
B
Right. But never met in real life. Yeah.
A
Which is so sweet.
B
They should play father daughter in a movie. They look like they could be.
A
You're right.
B
Chemistry.
A
That would be really good, actually.
B
Knowing how they'll cast him as lovers or something like that. The teacher. Something weird would happen. I don't know.
A
I think Pedro would maybe put his foot down. Maybe. I don't know.
B
But Pedro, singer.
A
I don't think he's ever. I haven't heard him sing. No. I mean, maybe, but I haven't heard him sing.
B
He'll be in Phantom of the Opera. There was, like, rumors Rachel Zegler was going to be casting With Love. Andrew Lloyd Webber was there. I was like, damn, everybody was there. Actually, my producer of my Broadway show, George was there. Actually, George produced part of. He was. He's one of the producers.
A
Wow.
B
Yeah.
A
I guess they're in talks that they might bring it to New York, which.
B
Would be fierce with CNN 100. Oh, my God. I love Rachel. If you've never been around her, but she is my number one. My number one forever. She seems so sweet, so sweet. Also, just, like, so talented.
A
See? Okay, this is gonna sound crazy tying Rachel Zegler into Brooke Schofield, but see what happens when you just, like, you know, you do the work, you kind of get. Give up trying to win people over, like on Twitter.
B
Yeah, yeah.
A
You give up trying to, like, you know, go back and forth and defend yourself. And you just. You know what? Like, you just. You hunker down. You do the good work. You focus on yourself. Thousands of people outside trying to just hear her sing for A minute.
B
You know, she has also crazy talented, but I feel like, like, Nicole, surgeons. There's a good example of, like, maybe a little problematic and stuff. She does, but because she's so talented, kind of like Leah. Michelle too.
A
Oh, you're right. You're right. Yeah.
B
Very problematic. But people also like, well, damn, she's a good singer. You know what I mean? So I think sometimes when. Yeah.
A
At least Rachel was on the right side of history. Jess for sure.
B
Yeah. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I feel like. Right. People had an unwarranted hatred.
A
Yeah, yeah.
B
That comparison was crazy.
A
I know.
B
Like, comparing me and Rachel or something.
A
Well, you know, in theory, just, you know, when you focus on the work and you just, you know, you try your best, you stand up for what you believe in, you know, but also.
B
Just be, like, really talented and, you.
A
Know, just have an incredible, incredible voice.
B
Influencers have a hard time. We don't have that to fall back on. People champion me because they, like, like me. And then it's like, yeah, if I, like, screw up, I'm like, oh, you know, you lose all of it because you're like, well, actually, you're right.
A
Damn. You are right about that.
B
Yeah. So Rachel has been talent forever. Although, yeah, she was. When she was doing eight nights on Broadway for Romeo and Juliet, like, the fact that she did my show, I am always still, like, that's crazy. Her, like, one. It wasn't even her day off. She was. Was, like, coming before the matinee on a Sunday to rehearse. I was like, you are amazing, and she looks so beautiful. I was just like, you're so dressed up and beautiful, and she's like, for you. I was like, just love her. She's, like, laying in my lap. I was like, oh, my God, I will never forget that day. She's amazing. Kind of good. I was, like, not fully in it. Like, a little out of my head. Because if I think if I was, like, fully in it, I would be way more nervous.
A
Yeah. Random scheme I just came up with. I think if you make Rachel's Zegler the godmother to your baby, will she come on the podcast? I mean, I feel like she would regardless, but I would love for her.
B
To be my God.
A
Leverage the God. The godparent thing a little bit.
B
Well, it was a girl. I would name her Rachel Zegler. I would love Rachel be my godmother to my baby. She is. Yes. I'd give her my baby. Here, take the baby. Like, you know, she's Just so beautiful in every way. She's literally an angel. I love. I love her. I don't tolerate any Rachel Zegler hate because she really does, like you said. You're right. Like Nicole Sergeant earlier, Michelle, they're like. They weird. They have some weird takes. You know what I mean? Yeah, she really doesn't. I mean, she's a little outspoken, but, like, you know, nothing crazy.
A
Yeah. Again, like I was saying, the earlier, the transphobic racist. It's just that they're very. They are a very vocal majority, really, at this point. So they do. They kind of.
B
You know that one friend who somehow knows everything about money? Yeah. Now imagine they live in your phone. Say hey to Experian, your big financial friend. It's the app that helps you check your FICO score, find ways to save, and basically feel like a financial genius. And guess what? It's totally free. So go on, download the Experian app. Trust me, having a BFF like this is a total game changer.
A
Out. I don't know. They're just louder than, you know, Rachel, but.
B
Yeah, yeah, right, right. Not outspoken in a bad way because Peter Pascal's out.
A
Exactly.
B
Celebrated for it.
A
Yeah.
B
I love that she's still herself, too.
A
She's still.
B
She's still herself, you know?
A
Yeah. And the world, like, the world's coming around. And really, you know who was there actually that really pissed me off was Piers Morgan. And I know Pierce Morgan for sure has said some things about Rachel Zegler. I mean, I'm 90, sure, not 100, but I feel like he. Don't you think? I feel like he must be. That says something about Snow White or something at some point.
B
Sure. Yeah.
A
At press night with Pedro Pascal and Dan British.
B
They're like, let's just invite this British person here. Oh, I hate that. Didn't he. Didn't Jake Paul Walker for appears Morgan interview recently, did he? Yeah, I think. Right, babe, you know about this stuff. Didn't he interview Jake and he was, like, kind of mocking or criticizing that Jake doesn't fight real boxers. And Jake just, like, went off the podcast. Went off of it.
C
I didn't see that one, but I was looking for the one with.
B
I said no to Piers Morgan. They asked me if I want to be interviewed.
C
Okay.
A
T. Yes. Okay. He Pierce Morgan severely hamils Rachel Zegler over disastrous Snow White Disney fiasco. Oh, he should have been blacklisted. You know when you have, like, a do not enter list for your. It should have been Piers Morgan.
B
That is actually so crazy that he Would even show up.
A
Yeah.
B
Because if I, like, really came for somebody, like, who did, have I come for? What? What?
A
I saw his Instagram.
B
Wow.
A
That was from Piers Morgan. That was unbelievable. Best night of theater I've ever had. Watching one of the greatest performances I've ever seen. Congrats, Rachel Zegler. You were sensational.
B
Rachel Zachary does not like you. I don't know.
A
Is a better woman than me because I'd be like, you, Pierce Morgan.
B
Yeah.
A
Oh, my God.
B
Would do that all day long. She would be like, well, I mean, she cancel now, too, but, you know, she was shaking. What if Trump came to your show? Well, I would. I want to perform, is what she said. You know what I mean? Same Piers Morgan. Like, he hasn't even said anything about me, but I remember when they asked me to do his show, I was.
A
Like, hit a bat. Yeah, yeah, good. Everything feeling. Yeah.
B
Ew. I hate that he was there again.
A
She's a classier woman than me because, you know, she just lets the talents and the hard work speak for itself, you know?
B
But the fact that he was there, Moses was excited. He told me a couple days ago. I was like, did you see Rachel Zackler get a standing ovation? The one where she was like, cry? I was like, I love that you were so in it. I thought it was happening. I did see the one you were talking about where it was, like, really emotional, where she was like, yeah, because.
C
I mean, I think there's real life.
B
Life.
C
There's life online, but there's real life. You met her. She was nice to you. So for me, she's always gonna be someone that. That's how I know her. Somebody that was nice to you and that, you know, like you said, coming to do your show and all that.
B
And she wasn't just genuine above and beyond. Like, she was, like, above and beyond, like, so sweet. So sweet to everybody in the room. Like, there's a lot of people that are nice, but she was just, like, every single person. Chick introduced herself to the ensemble and this and that and, like, literally the nicest person in the whole world. Still to this day, like, she's, like, doing a Vita. And I think I just DM'd her, like, I don't know, something like, this is amazing. And she. Oh, my God, I love you. She was, like, so sweet. She responded instantly. So, like, we were talking about. We usually, like, leave people on red click anxiety. Like, if Rachel's actually respond in five minutes, so can I. I'm like, let me not leave her on Red. And I was just like, love you. And she is amazing. And, yeah, you sell in her reactions, like, to the standing ovation and just her being so emotional because she does get, like, hate online. And so. So, you know, it's so different. That's why I, like Dwayne on Twitter, call me brown chicken fry over here, comparing it to my own self. But when you, like, see people show up for you and just be so, like, appreciative of your, like, whatever you're performing out there, and it's just like, oh, man, the world doesn't hate me. Like, there's so much love for me. And you feel it in person. Like, it is such a cool feeling. And, you know, she obviously knows she's talented. She obviously gets casted in, like, everything. She's, like, such a super superstar. But I feel like even those people, you know, they have their insecurities because they're probably like, she was getting hate for. She was getting hate for singing outside. Yeah. They're like, wow. If I was put on, I bought a ticket. I was like, that's the whole Jamie Lloyd thing. I said, tom Francis Onset Boulevard does it. It's like the whole thing they do now. She didn't create that idea, but it worked. And she's wonderful, and everyone loves her. And everyone's seen the show because they showed actually her pov. I don't know. Someone in the balcony was showing all the people that line up every night, it's just like. Like, a crowd of people in London to see her sing. It's.
A
She said, like, tech rehearsal, it was like 40 people. And then the next day, it was like 4, 000, which is crazy.
B
That's wild. Only Rachel Zegler can do that. Because, like I said, they do it in Sunset Boulevard, too, in New York, but some people line up, but it's not like a. They did put some barricades up there now, but it's not 4, 000 people.
A
Yeah.
B
Looking to see Rachel. I don't know why Pierce Martin was there. That's wild. That is a wild, wild. Like, you said, they should Google a quick Google search, put the names in.
A
I know. Literally, the first thing I saw, Piers Morgan hammers Rachel Zegler over Snow White.
B
Disaster. Crazy. Yeah.
A
The second thing was him giving her flowers. Damn. I mean, at least he came around. At least.
B
Is there an apology in between there?
A
I know you should have been like, sorry I was so hard on you for Snow White, which you had no creative control over, and you were just the actress, literally.
B
Whatever Actress casted in a movie.
A
Oh, okay. This. This. This is goes back to what we're talking about with the Fantastic Four milk. But the Sydney Sweeney Baskin Robbins ice cream I kind of want to try.
B
Oh, we are Baskin Robbins number one fans.
C
Wait, that's from her bat too.
B
Okay. A little too excited about that. You gonna get that? I was like, oh, okay.
C
No, I'm just. Is it the same line you were so excited about?
B
The bathwater?
A
No relation to Dr. Squatch for. I'm sorry for the guy. But yay for the girls who don't.
B
Want to, you know, I'll drink her bath water. I would do it.
A
She has teamed up with Baskin Robbins for this sweet on Sydney menu.
B
Menu.
A
Yeah, she has. There's two items. A pair of sweet treats. Sydney's signature scoop rainbow sherbet and a chocolate dipped waffle cone with rainbow sprinkles topped with gummy bears.
B
Oh my God.
A
Signature fish is a beverage made with rainbow sherbet with starry lemon lime soda, also topped with gummy bears.
B
Is it out now? I need to get this.
A
It's a. Oh yeah. Starting yesterday, July 1st.
B
I wonder if it's on Postmates.
A
I want to try this limited edition menu item.
B
First of all, who's her, like marketing person? I. I need that.
A
I literally had to go to her Instagram and look at the recent brand deals. Cuz I. Oh my God. I am actually. I'm like gag. At this point. I'm like, at first it was very much, much work girl. Like, because she's talked about how like the residuals from like streaming shows isn't much. So I'm like, get your. Get your coin. And then. But I'm like, has she said no to a brand deal?
B
She's like, that's taking all the money. Bathrooms are probably a big one. I wonder how much she gets paid for it.
A
I need to know her rate. I. I need to know her rate. She is giving Mr. Miyashi in the way. She's collecting these brand deals.
B
No, I was like, damn, I'm looking right now. Sorry, I have to see this.
A
Like, how excited you were.
B
That sounds delicious. We love basket ramens. We. We literally order them like every single night.
A
Her recent brain deals though, I went and wrote them down. The ones I saw at least. Or Dr. Squatch. Hey, dude. Which is really random. I don't even know what that is.
B
Hey, dude.
A
I guess they're shoot like they're boat shoes marketed towards. Okay.
B
Yeah, yeah.
A
Armani Beauty. Laneige Kerastase Mew Mew. Samsung by the. You know, the drinks and Ford. So she really just get everything a.
B
Truck out with them.
A
Well, her thing in the Euphoria days was she had like a secret Instagram account or Tick Tock account where she was working on her car because her hobby was working on cars.
B
Like in real life.
A
In real life, yeah. So she ended up getting her. That one makes sense. Some of these seemed a little crazy. I'm like, does Sydney Sweeney really eat Baskin Robbins like that? And she like a size. Then she says she's like a size three or something. She's like, I'm the biggest I've ever been a size.
B
You know what? She does no wrong in my opinion either.
A
She's like, I do live for the diva.
B
I live for her too.
A
You know, I live. I'm very biased when it comes to Sydney Sweeney. I'm very upfront about that. I love all her. I love all the movies. I love the one where she was the nun. I love the one where she was with Glenn Powell. I love them all.
B
She was a nun. The scary nun.
A
Yeah, the scary nun.
B
No, no, not about that. I'm ordering this. I need this with a quickness.
A
With the quickness.
B
No. Oh, my God. I can't believe it was on there. Usually, like a delivery service, they don't have it on.
A
It's close by work.
B
Oh, man, I'm so excited. I'm getting it right now. She influences me the same way Mr. Amy Ashton influences me for the demos.
A
She is the influencer actress for sure.
B
That's like the equivalent. It's like the Miss Remy Ashton and Sydney Sweeney. Yeah, that's for influencer. She's amazing. I love that. I love all the brand deals. I want to buy everything.
A
I.
B
What's next?
A
What's your next one? I am so curious. Like, what is next? I want to know so badly if she's ever been like, not this maybe. I guess if the rate's just not there, I guess everything kind of makes sense to me. Except for, I guess Baskin Robbins. I just don't see her eating ice cream like that. Hey, dude. Also really random. Bye. You think she drinks By? I don't know what's by? It's B A I. It's like waters or like fruity drinks.
B
No, no idea.
A
Energy water vibes to me.
B
Okay. Okay.
A
Everything else kind of makes sense. Like Dr. Dr. Squatch was kind of random. The beauty stuff makes sense. Mew Mew makes sense. Samsung. I mean, they got Pokimane they got Sydney Sweeney. That makes sense.
B
Mew. Mew makes sense for her. She looks so good.
A
Yeah, she is. She does give me a vibes. But work, Sydney. Get. Get your back actually work.
B
Yeah. She's hustling because there's no other.
A
Can you think of an, like an actor that's doing that many things? Yeah, not really. Right. No, no. Especially because she's. It's not like she just does like an Instagram ad. Like, she's the face. Like she's the face of, you know, all these things. So it's so funny.
B
That's the opposite. What was I the other day? I was looking at, like, Joyco and like, Kate Hudson is their person. That's so random. Like, just a K. Ava Longoria does, like, random hair stuff. It's like very random people. You never see spokespeople anymore like you used to. Brittany used to do a lot. She did like, got milk and Skechers and she was like candies. Like, she was everywhere. She was doing so much.
A
And even cover girl, like, Zendaya was a cover girl at one point. Remember Ellen was the COVID girl.
B
Really?
A
Yes. Ellen was like the COVID girl.
B
And Charles.
A
Damn. My favorite lore is that, like, I think Zendaya did the collab with James Charles for CoverGirl. And then she. I feel like she sensed it. Yeah.
B
I.
A
In that collab, it didn't look like she was feeling. Yeah.
B
Big cover girl because she has, like, Louis Vuitton too.
A
This was pre. Her, I think maybe even pre Dancing with the Stars. I want to say really early now. I don't think CoverGirl can get her. I don't know if anyone besides Louis can get her.
B
But yeah, Louis Vuitton's a big one. She looks great. She's telling me all the Louis bags. That's for sure. I love her. She does no wrong either. Yeah.
A
But. Yeah, that just really tickled me. I'm glad that. But I guess we're trying it. I'm excited.
B
I'm excited.
A
I'm excited. Yeah. The gummy bears kind of throw me off.
B
Gummy bears. I love gummy bears. I do.
A
But I've never had gummy bears as a topping for, like, ice cream.
B
You just.
C
When they get cold, they're not as soft.
A
They're hard, right? Yeah.
B
Oh, but I like them cold. Who? You just eat them by themselves, like, out of the bag.
A
I never eat gummy bears like that, but I guess I've only had them, like, when they're softer and gummier.
B
I love a Gummy bear. Gummy bears are my favorite.
A
I like the aesthetic of a gummy bear, but just the way they look. Yeah. And like, the colors. That's cute.
B
You like the way they taste?
A
I do. I just never. Like, if I had to go for a candy, I wouldn't go.
B
Not your preference?
A
Yeah. Yeah. I wouldn't go for a gummy bear like that.
B
But I love ice cream. We're, like, on this, like, weird ice cream. I need to stop after giving birth.
A
Like, can I tell you again? No one cares, but it's something. The hottest topic for me is I really wanted the ninja ice cream maker for my birthday, but I didn't know you had to, like, actually, like, make it question mark.
B
Like, what do you mean?
A
You have to, like, prepare it and freeze it, like, a day in advance.
B
Oh, I hate that.
A
Yeah, I. I thought. I thought it was, like, McDonald's or something where you just put stuff in there, then it turns it into ice cream magically, I guess.
B
Oh, yeah, I guess. I don't know how it works either. What do you put in?
A
You have to, like, actually make the recipe and prepare it.
B
Like, milk and what's in, like, vanilla.
A
Ice cream was, like, you had to do, like, whipping cream and milk and cottage. Like, it was all. Or cream cheese and all this stuff. I'm like, oh, that's not fun. Like, thank God, because I asked Darian to get it for me for my birthday, and then he, like, watched a YouTube video. Like, he's like, you want to do all this? And I was like, no, no.
B
That has that much work to. It is so annoying.
A
I really thought you just, like, put something cold in there and then just turn it into soft serve.
B
So they do have stuff like that where I think fruit in there or something.
C
Yeah. There's machines that the thing itself is, like, frozen, and you pour stuff on it, and then it became, like, a frozen layer, and then you scrape, scrape it off.
A
Oh, you got to scrape it.
B
Yeah. That's, like, annoying, too, because you get, like, a little bit of ice cream. You got, like, a scrape of ice cream.
A
I really want it like the McDonald's machine where you just press it down in it.
B
That does sound good, too.
A
Yeah.
B
McDonald's has the adult Happy Meals right now.
A
Again, they're bad.
B
Yeah. They have, like, little baby, like, Happy Meals as the toy. Oh, yeah. It is kind of cute. I don't really get it, but it's. It's cute.
A
It's kind of precious.
B
I love it. McDonald's needs to come Back out with better toys.
A
Yeah. I feel like the last big one was the squishmallow.
B
Yeah, those were always sold out.
A
Yeah.
B
And restock more. It's like, you know, I just hate when they. They like sell out the first day. It's like, you know, they're going to be popular. They need to get better toys for sure.
A
Imagine if they did a Labubu collab. That would be.
B
Yeah, that would be insane. Well, they'd be sold out and they'd probably not get enough laboos for everybody. So annoying.
A
Katy Perry was crying on stage in Australia, thanking fans for being there for her. A And this really gave me some perspective cuz I'm like, damn. I thought I had a tough couple weeks, but I saw a tweet too that was like, if you think you're having a bad day, Katy Perry is probably having a worse one. And it is tea because she was crying over that. In the same, like, performance. She almost fell out of. You know, there's like in the ball that. The metal ball that she's in. She almost fell out of that too. And I was like, damn, can she catch a break?
B
People were saying they need to get rid of these, like, big stuff.
A
Yes.
B
Obviously. We talked about the Beyonce car thing and the extended Patreon and like, Katie too. It's like, like, I don't know if people are really caring that much to see these artists, like, flying above them. Do you know what I mean?
A
I live for it, though. Regal flew around on the moon. I was like, this is everything to me.
B
Wait. Okay, I see uncorrected.
A
I want your to be flying on a disco ball next door.
B
Does that add. I love Donny Osmond. I don't need to see him flying overhead.
A
See how it's good though, because, like, for big. For big theaters and stuff, like, you're. If you're playing the Forum, it's good because then you. You fly around and then people all the way in the back or like, high up get to like, see you closer so they get like that moment of being closer to you.
B
Okay.
A
So I think if you play the form, you have to fly around on a disco ball.
B
That's what you said that literally yesterday on that level. We talked about playing the form. I'm like, my next venue is the Forum.
A
I. I feel that, like, I genuinely like. That makes sense.
B
Disco ball. One of my Miley Cyrus on a wrecking ball.
A
What else do you want to fly on? Like a chicken tent? Oh, we can fly on a chicken nugget.
B
It's not gonna look like a chicken nugget. It's not gonna look like a chicken nugget. I don't know. What? I can fly. I guess Trisha missed a Christmas tree. Like, my hot girl Christmas. I could just fly around on that. We're losing our disco ball. Branding. People know it as that. Why are they not that dumb?
C
We. It changes. It's seasonal.
B
Seasonal? I thought that was our go to for everything.
A
Oh, my God.
B
Yeah. No Katy Perry having a bad week. I would say maybe yours might be a little more difficult. Your. You have your mom, your boyfriend.
A
At least Katy Perry got to go to the zoo with Daisy. So that seemed like a fun time.
B
Yeah, she was. We were talking about that last Hot Topics, too, how I was saying, Elena Bloom needs not look so happy. And people were calling it out, too. She was holding Daisy, and they're all like, why is Orlando Bloom not there? He's smiling and she's, like, holding it. And it's like, people did call it out for the. That a lot of people also were saying, like, he just doesn't work, so she works off and he doesn't work. So she probably was over it, too.
A
Yeah.
B
She looked like she was having fun. Was she in Australia?
A
Yeah.
B
She had her daughter with her, which is good because touring is hard if you don't have your family with you, so it is crazy. She hasn't said anything about Orlando on stage, though. She's just emotional.
A
No. Yeah. She just cried and thanked the kitty cats for being there for her.
B
What does that mean when you break up like, that? Someone moves out. Out.
A
Oh, damn. Yeah, I mean, I guess they must have, like, multiple properties or whatever. So do you talk about it with each other or the problem?
B
Yeah. Are you like, okay, we're done?
A
I think you have to. You got me. You got to be organized. But okay, I'm gonna go to here, and you go. Especially because they're not married, so there's no, like, legal thing to fit. Like, they really have to talk about it and figure out what's what. Right.
B
How do you know you're done? Done? I would just assume we're not. Like, I need a break.
A
I'm like, okay, I think that's a you thing. I think we're going to still be together.
B
Like, if you're like, I don't want to be with you right now. I'm like, all right, well, I'll come back on tour and we'll be. We'll be fine. Like, I don't Know, like, how do you know it's over?
A
Good point. I don't know.
C
I mean, you see Orlando with some other girl dating and going to Jeff.
B
Maybe Katie is going to date someone else first.
A
Just because it's over doesn't mean it's really over. And if it's really over, maybe we can think it over again. Again? No, over you. I love her again. That's a Katy Perry song, actually, ironically.
B
She really has a song for everything.
A
She really does. Yeah.
B
What was the space one she had a song for? You said there was a space one.
A
Extraterrestrial.
B
Yeah. She really does have a song for everything. I feel for Katie. I feel like she also gets a lot of layered hate, and she does.
A
You're right. It is very, very much the layered hate.
B
Maybe she's the celebrity equivalent to Brooke. You know what I mean?
A
Yeah. Like, he has some missteps. But I think heart are ultimately in the right place. Just making bad calls every now and.
B
Then, you know, and just like, one right after the other. It's like the stack above it. Yeah, I think sometimes. Yeah.
A
Gorgeous girls, right? Yes. While Kitty is crying on stage, though, did you see Orlando's Instagram stories where he was just, quote, like, doing Buddhist quotes? I was like, oh, my God. It was giving, like, White Lotus Buddhism because he just.
B
Buddhism.
A
He kept quoting. Let me see what he quoted.
B
He quoting Buddha or Gandhi?
A
No, he did a. He quoted Buddha.
B
Okay.
A
Each day is a new beginning. What we do today is what matters most. And then he quoted another Japanese Buddhist leader that said, the important thing is to take the first step bravely. Overcoming one small fear gives you the courage to take on the next day.
B
Gives me the ick when guys tweet stuff like this. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know if Buddha's for you. You know, it sounds like you're just using it.
A
Yeah. Why are you qu. Buddha at the Bezos wedding?
B
Yeah.
A
What would Buddha say about that?
B
Yeah, he would not be there. He would not be at that Bezos wedding. Yeah. That's actually so tea. I don't like it. Gives me an egg. Also. No. Orlando Bloom gives me the egg with everything he does. So I think nothing he could do is right. But also, don't be posting stories during that time. Especially that. Like, just don't post. Just. Honestly, he's been disappeared. You know what I mean? Like, no one thinks about him. So now he's just trying to, like, get in on this clout that people are talking about him for the first time since 2003. Pirates of the Caribbean is what we know him for. And I don't like him and love Katy Perry. I don't know about her actions. I don't know about anything she supports. But as a person, as a one on one real time person, she was very sweet. So I. I really think she got.
A
Cursed by that nun. I think she wasn't. She like, she bought a house, like one of the houses from the nun.
C
They have like a controversial.
A
Yes.
B
Really?
C
They were buying probably properties and like there was two different. One case there was somebody elderly and they kind of like, you know, snatched the property under his hands while he was not really coherent.
B
Oh, I do remember that.
C
And then with the nuns was something similar.
B
The nuns were not having it.
C
And I'm like, no real estate is that important.
B
I don't know.
A
An estate used to be owned by the convent. Oh, wow.
B
And they just took it from them.
A
And the nun that was involved in the lawsuit collapsed and died. Died in court. I think God was really. Yeah. There's some bad vibes there. For sure.
B
You need to go get exorcism or Olympia. One of the two. Yeah, yeah, do that. Maybe that helps. There are demons amongst us.
A
Yeah. Sydney Sweeney was the demonic nun.
B
That's what I thought you were talking about first. I was like, wait, we were just talking about a nun demonic.
A
I believe she was possessed. Yes. From the trailer.
B
They need to link up.
A
Yes. T see it. Yeah. And I know you guys talked about it too last on Tuesday, but like, yeah, Sydney Sweeney not with Orlando Bloom. So I think Katy Perry needs to get photographed with Sydney Sweeney next to really stick it to her.
B
Oh, yeah, yeah. That would actually be everything to do it. She's kind of everywhere. She's kind of pictured everywhere with everybody.
C
It really is like the influencer of actresses.
A
She is really.
B
Actually she's getting those brand deals. Yeah. She's also a Ms. Remy Ashton. Getting. Influencing. That's the equivalent. That's what we said. Influencing me right away I had to buy Baskin Robbins. I was like, we're getting that right now. I do love her. She is a Queen.
A
And Leonardo DiCaprio at the Bezos wedding with him trying to like hide his face under a hat for all the.
B
Paparazzi photos that I was like, what?
A
And then that's hiding too.
B
Like, that's so weird. Like, what?
C
Because he has a lot to hide.
B
That's true. He's all like, climate change.
A
Well, that's the guy. The next day he posted on his instagram turn the comments off photos about of Chile's ecosystem and how we have to like, protect the environment and save the ecosystem. I'm like, why don't you tell your friend Jeff Bezos to save the ecosystem? Why are you telling me? Who can barely afford a lab like you? You go do that now also.
B
Right.
A
Piss me off.
B
Did you take a Southwest flight to Jeff Bezos wedding? That's what we want to know. You know what I mean? Like, I don't think anything. You never see him on a commercial flight.
A
Et.
B
And yeah, like, why are you preaching to people turning out the comments? He's fake. Isn't that crazy? Like, growing up was like realizing how awful these people are. Brad Pit too. He's just on Dax Shepard show and it's kind of like, God, I really idolized Brad Pit. And I'm like, damn, you are really awful.
A
Yeah. And it's like, oh, my God, with, with Leonardo, like. Because I'm sure though, does he have stance? I don't know. I know he has done some good stuff for the environment, but at the end of the day, like, like, if you are going to be, you know, key king with someone who could literally save the world and then you're just gonna, like, have a good time at his wedding on the freaking. On the phone party, then don't come talk to me about it. I don't think he was at the phone party, but I like to, you know, let me pretend he was there.
B
I know. I think these again, the older generation eventually just. I won't say they're dying off time, but they're gonna fade off.
A
Yeah.
B
And falling off. Yeah, falling off is a good them. And we're seeing that more so now.
A
Yeah. And also, it's not like if you're going to go, then go. Sydney Sweeney wasn't hiding behind a freaking umbrella.
B
Exactly. Neither were the Kardashians.
A
Put up your hat. You know what I mean? Just, you know, if you're going to the paparazzi, you knew what this was going to be. You knew there's going to be paparazzi there. Loser.
B
Yeah. I love your sexiness today.
A
Yes.
C
Did you see Rosie O.
A
Yes. Oh, she went, no, no.
C
I'll tell you what she said.
B
Okay. I love Rosie.
C
She made a whole post about it. She's like, the Bezos wedding, she said it turned my stomach seeing all these billionaires gathering in the gross excess of it all. The show of it is Oprah friends with Jeff Bezos. Really? How is that possible? He treats his employing employees with disdain. By any metric. He is not a nice man. And I'm not going to read the part she talks about his wife because I don't think. Think that's appropriate. I don't know what she. And then what'd she say?
B
She's coming for her bangs. She's like, those bangs.
A
Fake fembot wife. I'll say it.
B
That's not bad. Okay, I don't know, but I'm, like, quoting someone. It's not like you're saying it. I just want to know what she said. You made it sound worse by not saying it. I was like, what did she say?
C
No, but why comfort her looks? I don't know. It just. It's. That's not the issue with this wedding. Her looks. She's just a person.
B
Don't blame her. Playing the patriarchy. That's what women do to each other. They, like, go against.
C
But we. All we talk about is women getting plastic surgery, and it's fine. And this is her choices, and I wouldn't come for her for that. Anyway. Then she says that because she does, like his ex wife because she is a big philanthropist.
B
Who's his ex wife?
A
Mackenzie Scott.
B
Oh.
C
And she's like, why did she leave her? He's like, he sold his soul is what it looks like from here. The devil is smiling at all of his conquests. Anyway, she. She came for Oprah, specifically with this post.
B
Oh, Rosie versus Oprah. That's crazy.
A
I feel. I mean, kudos, mama. Kudos. Because, yeah, I think she. Yeah, Especially, like, if you're gonna be, like, gonna preach about, you know, being philanthropic and, you know, all this and you're gonna do that, like, that's the biggest slap in the face. And at the end of the day, it's just because all these rich people, the stuff that goes on with the rest of the world doesn't affect them because they got bunkers if there's a nuclear war, so it doesn't really matter.
B
Do they?
A
Yeah. What's his name?
C
Oh, yeah. All of them.
A
Yeah.
C
Oprah has, you know, we saw recently Facebook.
A
Yeah.
B
We were just talking about this on 11 yesterday, too. She knows, like, Tana says, like, people in Maui know all about Oprah's, like, dark side.
A
Yes, they do. Not like Oprah.
C
But what's odd to me, though, is that this wedding, compared to the lavish lifestyle of these people is actually not that serious. Like, if you actually saw, like, all these people have yachts, you know, like JF and those. Those yachts that worth half a Billion dollar. They have all. I mean, the amount of access and things that they do on their daily life exceeds this wedding. And nobody even see that world because it's not. We can't see it. It's all private and hidden and the way those billionaires live. So it's really odd to me that it's like. I'm like, if you really look into everything they do in their lives, it's much worse than this wedding.
B
That's like, not a good thing because it's like we're just seeing a glimpse and everyone's pissed. So if they saw the whole thing.
C
That's what I'm saying to me, I'm surprised. I'm like, you should look deeper because it's much worse than you think.
B
Gee, it's another. Oh, my God. It's like the theme of the show today. It's like another. Like, just don't leave a comment about it. You know what I mean? Like, if you don't put it in our face, nobody's gonna know. You could do your rich people things in quiet, but, like, just commenting on every little, like, tik tok about it.
A
Having it all be ugly as hell too. I was with C. That dress. Ugly wedding invitations. Ugly. The foam party.
B
Okay.
A
Oh, disgusting.
C
But what did you expect on Amazon?
A
I don't know. There's some. Where's that shirt from? Not Amazon today, huh?
B
It looks like an Amazon shirt.
A
Good Amazon shirts.
B
You love an Amazon.
A
You have good Amazon shirts.
C
But that's the thing. I only found one shirt that works. And that is nice. And that's it. That's where it ends.
A
Amazon has some good stuff.
B
Yeah. You buy anything off Amazon?
A
Why did I get. I got. No one cares. I bought something to store my computer monitor in the garage. But okay. Amazon has some good stuff on occasion. I think, to quote Countess Luanne from Real Housewives, money can't buy you class.
B
Yes.
A
Because they have a lot of money. You can't buy taste. The taste is true. Bethany Frankel this hit or miss with me, but she kind of hit. She was like, this is the ugliest Ever seen these wedding invitations. She's like, I need to have a third wedding just to make up for how terrible this wedding was.
B
So funny.
A
It was fierce. It was fierce. It was so bad, though. I couldn't. The stationery looks so cheap. I can't believe he has that much money. And it all looked like, go to Etsy and get someone to make something better.
B
So weird. Yeah, I guess they just, you know, like, you said threw it together.
A
Maybe I don't think they threw it together. I think they just are tasteless and are trashy.
B
I love that you're coming for everybody today.
A
I'm really fired up today.
B
Who's worse? Drake's abs? This wedding or there was someone else. You really were like did not like.
A
We were just talking about me having to check my nose to see who. Orlando Bloom.
B
Well, you didn't even think you came for him. Maybe you didn't. I think you called him a loser. Loser.
A
Oh, Leonardo DiCaprio.
B
Oh, yeah, yeah, Leonardo Caprio.
A
Jeff Bezos is the worst out of all them for sure. Because at least Drake, I mean, it only affects his ugly botched abs. It doesn't affect the rest of the world. So yeah, he's like Dr.
B
Evil over there.
A
T. I don't know.
B
Jeff Bezos don't come to me. I feel like people with money could like throw me in jail or something.
A
So don't Entertain purposes only, etc. Etc. Still buying on Amazon. I, I, I'm, I'm sure I paid for that wedding with buying the boo boo clothes off.
B
Oh, you did Amazon. Okay.
A
Yeah, so I probably paid for those ugly invitations.
B
So someone was telling me they try to only do one box of Amazon. I forgot who was telling me. They're like they try to put everything in a cart.
A
That is really good. I patient to do that. So I'm very hypocritical in that sense.
B
The environment, I'm sure.
A
Yeah. And Jeff Bezos could also help the environment. If he, you know, got his together.
B
Somewhere close Amazon, then what would we do?
A
Or at least let his employees not have to pee in a water bottle.
B
Was that confirmed?
A
I'm pretty sure that was confirmed.
B
Okay, so T, number one, start there.
A
Well, the one silver lining I have in this life is that there's a theory that Sabrina Carpenter and Olivia Rodrigo will collab or reunite. And that is, I'm choosing to believe it.
B
Their issue was over a boy, right? They were.
A
Yes, by Joshua Bassett. But Sabrina attended did Olivia Rodrigo's show at Glastonbury and in Sabri and Olivia Rodrigo's tour, like before she comes on, she plays like music videos and she plays espresso.
B
Okay. So she's like olive branch. Yeah.
A
And they had a moment at the Grammys where like Olivia came up to where Sabrina was sitting and they like had. It was really quick. I think it was just a camera pan over the audience. But like they were talking and then they hugged.
B
So I feel like I Like, feel.
A
I feel like there's hope.
B
I don't see gummy bears.
C
I. I see that.
B
Oh, where are the gummy bears?
C
Sunken in there.
A
Oh, it's like a boba.
C
They're drowning in the ocean.
B
Is it. Is it liquidy? All right. This doesn't look okay.
A
I'm dead.
B
Sorry. Sorry.
A
What is a hot summer day? Maybe it melted.
B
Oh, is it hot outside today?
A
Not that hot, but okay.
B
Like hot summer day. What's the flavor? Do we know?
A
Strawberry rainbow sherbet.
B
This is rainbow sherbet?
A
Yeah.
B
What is that? That's so little. I thought we were getting big waffle cones. It's supposed to come in a chocolate diplomatic.
A
They probably put it in a cup, I'm assuming.
B
But the cups are called waffle cones.
A
Maybe to go. They don't give you the full experience. Yeah, the waffle cone is a part of the Sydney menu.
B
It was like a 13 item.
C
This. This was $13.
B
First of all, that's rainbow shrimp or some gummy bears. That's what I order all the time. What they really? Oh, you got a lot of gummy bears. That's everything. Wait, what? You hate gummy bears.
A
Yeah. We should swap.
B
This literally is what I order. That's so funny. That's just like a rainbow shepherd with gummy bears. What else was promised? I thought we had so many things. The dip comb. Oh my.
A
The dip comb is a big part of it is that it's sprinkles or something.
B
Wasn't there more? More?
A
Let me go back to my notes. Yeah.
C
I mean, the list was so fun.
B
Yeah.
A
Rainbow sherbert in a chocolate dipped waffle cone with rainbow sprinkles topped with gummy bears. Oh, no rainbow.
B
No Rainbow sprinkles.
A
Tear.
B
Yeah. And this past Robbins I like. This is our lit Baskin Robbins. But I don't know what's happening.
A
I'm dead.
B
Oh, it smells good though. I mean, I love a rainbow sherbet, so I'm not gonna lie. But it is just rainbow sherbert. Let's try this drink.
A
Maybe that was Sydney's homage to Pride month was the rainbow sherbert. Even though Pride month is over.
B
Never on forever. Okay, okay.
A
This kind of slaps though. Sydney signature fizz. Rainbow sherbet with starry lemon lime soda topped with gummy bear minis. Starry soda, Starry lemon lemon lime soda. So lemon lime rainbow sherbert.
B
Basically, it's like tastes like rainbow sherbet. This is literally. I don't even know why I'm Trying this. This is what I get every night. It's like rainbow sherbet.
A
I'm dead.
B
It really doesn't. Without the chocolate dipped cone. It's like not giving.
A
I know. Cuy looks so cute holding her chocolate dip cone.
B
This is weird because they never come like this either. Like, that was like a little. Why you supposed to eat this?
C
Well, I think because of the gummy bears. I guess they put it with a cap.
A
What is it gonna taste that different?
B
My bears are hard.
C
I don't do. They're gonna be hard.
A
You love them frozen. I thought. Oh, you said I love them cold.
B
No, rewind the tapes.
C
Yeah, because when they get cold, they're not as soft.
A
They're hard, right?
C
Yeah.
B
Oh, but I like them cold. Who just eat them by themselves. Like out of the bag. Oh, but I like him cold. Oh, but I like him cold. Oh, but I like him cold. Okay, sorry. Just two more minutes. One more minute.
A
Oh, yeah, the gummy is kind of. It's rough. I'm sorry. Sydney.
B
No. Love it. Honestly. No, let me support.
A
Actually maybe with the cone. I think if you got the cone, it would really add to the experience.
B
Yeah. Okay. I love it.
A
I kind of love the. I mean, it literally is just rainbow sherbert. So how can you go wrong?
B
Right? But I feel like they should put her little face on it or something.
A
They should put her little face on it.
B
You know, like I want to see some Cindy Sweeney. Yeah. Packaging.
A
Yeah.
C
Probably have one little poster at the shop and that's it.
B
I would love to see it. I would love to see that. All right. Well, I mean, I love it. What do you think about the drink? You're not a Rainbow shepherd person. Do you like it?
C
I don't know. I didn't get one.
B
Babe, it's literally down there.
C
Oh, no, the. The ice cream.
B
Oh, there was only two. I ordered three. Oh, you want some? Mine?
C
No.
B
What about your drink?
C
Drink is okay. It's like.
B
It's rainbow.
C
Oh, it's mostly strawberry, I guess.
B
Oscar just read. It was the starry lime soda with the rainbow Sher ice cream.
A
It has a little.
C
It's okay. It's refreshing, it's nice. It's nothing. I mean, the thing is like that ice. The ice cream, you can order it and ask for gummy bear. Like nothing.
A
I know.
C
Like nothing was really tailored like you said.
B
I think maybe in person. The presentation. I'm not hating on it. Look, okay, I'll support it forever. I'll order this every single night. I Love rainbow. It's what I get. Actually. Malibu calls Baskin Robin's rainbow ice cream. Like she gets chocolate ice cream, but she calls the place Rainbow ice cream. Cuz that's what I always get. So every night she asks, can we order rainbow ice cream even though she wants chocolate?
C
That's how she was introduced to it. So that's.
B
Yeah.
A
That's so cute.
B
We used to eat the rainbow ice cream together. She loved the rainbow. But then she started getting into chocolate.
C
And one day we got a bag with just a. Because we were there. We got a bag with a cone and it was sitting on the counter. And she walks by, suddenly she sees the bag and she was like, rainbow ice cream. She was just like. She recognized the logo.
B
She's the number one Baskin Robbins fan.
A
Maybe she'll get her own Malibu menu.
B
That a Malibu Barbie ice cream. Like a sunset. It would be this. It's like, ooh, the Rainbow shepherd sunset.
A
Wouldn't she want it to be chocolate though?
B
Though? Oh, she should do chocolate and rainbow sherbert. Because she does love a rainbow sherbet. But she loves chocolate too. She do a mix of it half and half. Yeah, that would actually be probably everything.
A
The next slub collab.
B
Oh my God. That one I would let her have. We've been offered like little like diaper commercials and stuff, but I'm like, oh, she's too young. Baskin Robins Club. I would do for sure. I love it. I love Baskin Robbins. Yeah. We went to one, just us two the other day. It felt bad. I was like, we should get something for Malibu. And we got her like. But she never ate it.
A
Huh.
B
We got her a little coffee phone.
C
We just didn't get the chance to.
B
So good.
C
So there is one breaking news that I don't know if Breaking news. Do you know that Mel Owens is no longer the Golden Bachelor?
B
No.
A
No.
C
Yeah. You need to react to this.
B
Is that real? It's not real.
C
I'm seeing this.
B
They haven't already been filming? They had a film already.
C
This is on the Bachelor Mellowings is out of the Golden Bachelor due to recent neg publicity surrounding his June 4 podcast appearance. Expect an announcement soon.
B
ET loves to cover Golden Bachelor. They had so many like. That's why I heard the sound clip was from ET did they say anything? Is it in your newsfeed? In your chat?
A
Oh, there's. There is a report that he has been fired from Golden Bachelor. So not confirmed yet. But there is a report from Reality Steve, who's a blogger, but usually gets stuff pretty right with Bachelor Nation.
B
That's actually insane. The power of the people then. Because that's actually so insane. I mean, what a dumbass. You're on the Golden Bachelor. Like no one over six. You're our dumb. He should be fired. But they probably put. I mean, I thought they would already done production. Like it's July. They usually film in the summer.
C
Maybe they were heading towards again. It's like, you know, podcasts, like just let people talk for a couple of hours and they'll.
A
Oh. Sun says they can confirm that the news is not true and he will indeed continue.
B
Okay.
A
But the decision was not unanimous as a production insider claimed that some staffers at the network felt Mel's remarks set up misogynistic and Asia's tone.
B
Yeah, he said no wigs, no fake hips. I'm like, I hate this guy.
A
I don't know. I mean, the sun gets stuff wrong a lot too, so it really could go either way.
B
I would be surprised. I just feel like they probably already put so much like. Yeah, just the. The setup that maybe like the controversy people will tune in for it. I don't know. Because I don't think they casted women 45 to 60. I think the producer told him, like, it's the Golden Bachelor, not the Silver Bachelor. Like you're women over 60. But how often to watch. Who would want to watch that show knowing he's disgusted by over 60?
A
The charm is gone.
B
My mom's fired up. Every morning she comes into the glam room and she's just like, I hate Mel Owen.
A
She's the source.
B
She's like, who does he think he is? They're like, he still has wrinkly skin. 45 year olds don't want that wrinkly sc. Oh, you're. You ate. It's true. All right, well, damn. I thought that. Well, you never know. I guess we'll. It could be.
A
Yeah, we'll follow the story.
B
Go to Patreon to find the developments happening there. Oh.
A
Oh, my God. I have some. Really? I have some tiny quick ones before I guess wind on JoJo as we usually do. Caitlyn Olson from Hack Max. She plays DJ Vance, Deborah's daughter.
B
Oh, okay.
A
So she talked about how her kids are not happy with their dad, Rob McElhenny because they. He changed his name to Rob. Rob Mack, legally.
B
I'm so confused about all this. What's happening? What?
A
Okay. Caitlyn Olson from Hacks.
B
Okay, got it.
A
Yes, she is partnered with it's always in sunny. It's always Sunny in Philadelphia star Rob McElhen.
B
He's an actor.
A
He's an actor and producer. So he legally changed his name to Rob Mack Mac. He said people. Yeah, he says people have keep pronouncing his name wrong. So he decided to legally change it. But they were like, well, the kids are teenagers, like 13 and 12. And like, well, we don't want to have that as a last name. And also Caitlyn Olsen is legally Caitlyn McElhenny. So that she like, was talking about this in an interview and everyone's like, wait, that's actually messed up. Leave a them. And then. Well, the guy name change. Well, the bigger thing too is they had decided that they were never going to show their kids on camera. Like that was their agreement.
B
Yeah.
A
And then he goes and makes this documentary and then it puts their faces in this documentary. And she. He.
B
And he had never showed him before.
A
No. And they had. They had an agreement that they wouldn't show the kids faces.
B
I think that's more of an issue than the name change.
A
Yes.
B
Leaving him over is crazy because also like, okay. It sounds literally the same. Like, okay, whatever. Showing the kids. Yeah, that's. That would be annoying, especially when you have the agreement.
A
And it was like it wasn't consented to. And then he went on, how's he.
C
Able to show it together or divorced?
A
They're together.
C
So how nobody knew he was showing their faces, like.
B
Yeah. Did she not tell her?
A
I guess she did. She didn't know. And it was a big point of. She said she's still pissed about it. Oh, they're 14 and 13. Axel and Leo are the kids ages.
B
And don't you have to both sign off to like have your kids be shown on tv?
A
I guess it was. I don't know if it was a documentary or something.
C
Maybe he used some footage he had, like videos he had already.
B
That. That is wild. Maybe he's going through something. He's doing a name change. He's showing his kids faces. Maybe he's going through like a manic episode or something.
A
How old is he?
B
Probably 50, I would guess. I don't know him, but I would just assume 48.
A
You're.
B
I know this behavior. It's a midlife crisis right there.
A
She said Rob went rogue and put them in a effing documentary. I'm still unhappy about them that. But he says the kids love it and they just have different perspectives because she doesn't like. For her. She didn't want to be put on camera. Like, in retrospect, didn't like being put on camera before puberty when her face changed and stuff. But Rob said that he has a different perspective. Millions of people across the world say, we love to watch them. And she. They were doing an interview together, like, it was a joint, like, kind of like actors on actors kind of thing. And she said, I don't care about them. I care about my kids. Kids. And she said, we're still fighting about it. So it's like a weird, like, almost like relationship podcast vibes where, like, you know, they're fighting.
B
Yeah, it's like a weird publicity stunt that no one is talking about except for you. I haven't heard this anywhere.
A
Me, I saw it all over. It was a whole debate on Twitter about it.
B
And what are they saying? I guess I don't really even, like, understand or care. I guess I'm just like, I.
A
Everyone was like, girl, why would you be with him if he's, like, disrespecting you like that? Basically, like, if it's like a parent thing, like, the whole family's like, no, please don't change your name. And then you go and change. Especially because the whole family has your name.
B
Oh, really? So I just feel like there's just so much disrespect out there that I'm like, this is like, kind of the least of it. You know what I mean?
A
With that perspective. Yeah.
B
The showing the kids thing. But she's obviously okay with it. If they're together and they're doing this interview together, they're obviously looking for something. I think because that happened recently with influencers. I don't think you know these people. Maybe you do, you know, some around the.
A
They used to be a girl group.
B
Girl group. They're like sisters. Like seven sisters in a girl group. One of them went rogue because she got married at, like, 18. That was Danny Cimorelli. And she married this guy. You always. I show you him on Tick Tock, but you won't know. Yeah, I forget his name. He's a little heavier. Remember, he's like, heavier. She's like. They got married at 18, then they, like, separated and whatever. He makes music.
C
Yeah. And he just revealed her pregnancy.
B
Oh, okay. Oh, my. You are so online. Because I thought this was so niche. I was like, oh, my God. No. But, yeah, that was the whole thing.
A
Yeah, she.
B
It was kind of the same thing where, like, they. She. She wanted to, like, hide. She hasn't talked about the pregnancy, and he Kind of just revealed it to sell some merch. He's I need to sell merch except I'm gonna be a dad. And she's like in the back, like, no, she's like telling him not to.
A
Say, oh my God.
B
And did he say it was a girl too? I think he like, did the gender reveal and the girl's just in the back. Danny Summerli just like, no, she's just like covering her thing and people are like, well, she's pissed. Like, he should have done that. I'm like, well, obviously she's okay. She's like back there with whatever. Also, people thought they were broken up and he like, she's like way out of his league. And not just in the sense of not even his looks, because I think he's. He's handsome, you know, whatever. It's just more like his attitude, the way he was like, I don't know, just whatever. So the fact that they're having this baby and like the guy announced it and announced the gender, like people like, she's pissed about it. So I think there is something. Obviously not showing the kids when you're not supposed to show the kids. Like, that would be annoying. But if she's sitting there doing interview with them, she's fine. Same thing with Danny Cimorelli in the back. I'm like, well, she obviously looked fine. She was kind of like giggling like saying, no, whatever.
A
But.
B
But I mean, I would be pissed. I'd be pissed if like you went up and they said it without me. But vice versa. I wouldn't want to say it without you either. Like, there's been so many times on stage, you know, especially on stage, I want to say everything. Let me just tell you guys right now. But I was like, I just know how like sad it would be because, like parents want to do things together, especially first time parents. They're young, the Summerli girls, like really young. Actually, all the Summerli girls had babies though. Really young. They all have like five babies.
C
It just seemed the relationship really revolves around him and he's pretty selfish.
B
So that's. That's it. Okay. That's where I was trying to go. Like, it's. Yeah, he's his name. I used to kind of like him because I like his songs and stuff like that too. Like, your parents hate me like that.
C
Yeah. Because their whole relationship was about her defying everything and supporting him and helping him. And then he went and cheated on her.
B
That's what it was, allegedly. Yeah, it was. She was a part of Summer rally. No one liked this guy. Her parents hated him. The sisters, like, no. She's like, I love him. She supports him. Right. She's working the job to support him financially. And then once he gets a little success, he, like, left her. And all the songs were still about her. I guess. They're apparently back together. But, you know, I guess that's good. I love that. You know that. That was so funny. Like, I was like. It was like, one tick tock I saw about it. I love it. I love you. Remember that?
C
Because I also. I was trying to verify the bachelor thing, so I didn't hear. I just heard the end of your sentence, and I was like, I know what it's about.
B
That was good. I like that because I love that. Yeah. And with these people, I mean, obviously, they're fine if they're doing the interview together.
A
I guess so. Yeah. Although, I mean, sometimes you never know, people look okay, but deep down, I mean.
C
Sounds like part of an episode of It's Sunny in Philadelphia.
B
Is that what they're from? I never watched it. Did you?
A
No. Right.
B
Saying no idea. No idea what the show is. Don't know who that guy is for.
A
He sounded like someone you would know in this era of you liking random, like.
B
Right. Maybe Never heard of him actually, even it's always Sunny. I don't know. I know, like, Danny DeVito's on the show. That's, like, all I know. I don't know anything about it. It sounds. It just sounds like a bad show to me.
C
It's very different. It's more like Kirby enthusiasm plus that kind of humor, you know?
B
Is it kind of like Cheers, too? It gives me, like, Cheers vibes, I think, in location.
C
Like, there's a lot of bars and, like, words, film.
B
Okay, okay.
C
But not so much the comedy. It's, like, much more unhinged.
B
I think if you do a sitcom in, like, a bar, it already is failing. How I met your mother I think is, like, in a bar.
A
It just. The sound of it gave me, like, it's always sunny. Gave me righteous gemstones or vice principal vibes.
B
Oh, my God. Don't even compare.
A
My head. They're all the same.
B
What?
A
That's not even.
B
No, no. Well, I get what you're saying, but no.
A
Like a man comedy to me, I'm sure. I'm sure there are women who like it's always sunny, but that's just.
B
It's always sunny gives me, like, bad ensemble. Like, you say, like, curb your enthusiasm. Just like a bad ensemble. That I don't relate to at all. Not bad acting. Just like, I don't like Seinfeld. It's like an ensemble I can't relate to.
A
I guess in my head, I feel like. Because Jeff Wittick likes righteous gemstones, so I feel like Jeff Wood probably also likes. It's because he talked to you about it. I think he was trying to get you to watch it or something back.
B
Because now I can have a whole dissertation.
C
You're gonna be best buddies now.
A
You guys have your own podcast.
B
I would love to do a deep dive. Vice Principal. East bound and down. I'm in this.
A
He was literally telling you about all these shows when last time. He was. Yeah.
B
Walton Goggins and any Bright are on vacation right now in the. Where in the Greek Islands or something.
A
That's how. Because you were talking about White Lotus and how much you love Walton Goggins. Then he was explaining the Danny McBride Walton Goggins lore.
B
What?
A
Yes.
B
We need to have him back asap. I want to have him back. I would love. Because I was like, I need to get. I would love to have him as a guest, but it's like, oh, do I do pod swap in Hollywood?
A
No, you can't.
B
I can't. I can't do that.
C
The baby suddenly showing up, and she's like, oh, my God, Jeff has to.
B
Take me to the hospital right now.
A
That literally happened last year, remember? Because it was one of the last ones before birth with Jeff or right after birth, actually. I guess we're gonna do it right before and, like, the baby might come and then.
B
Yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. I really want to have him back now, though, because I do love these shows. We're watching the other. The last Danny McBride series, which is the first one, and it's, like, kind of bad, but I am addicted to watching it. I really love him. I don't know. I think I was telling. Well, if you saw the last episode. I think I'm turning into boy mom with Minecraft and all these, like. I think I'm getting really into, like, boy stuff now. Really Channeling my wife.
A
Witta can be the Godfather.
B
No, no. Although I got. I really do feel bad, man, that I just never quits his. Poor thing. I mean, God, his eye is just always in something.
A
I thought it was getting better.
B
No, he just had surgery. He had a surgeon on.
A
Oh, yeah, yeah. But that was supposed to be, like, his last big surgery that. Because it's like this new technology.
B
But he, like. Not to get all sad, but he, like, Talked about this on lots of podcasts. Like, he, like, relapsed. He's no longer sober.
A
Oh, I didn't know that.
B
Yeah, he was on maybe his own, but he was on another podcast. Podcast where he was talking about it. Some boy bro podcast that. I don't know. Maybe. Maybe I should talk Jeff more. He's. He's mentoring my boy mom era. Maybe.
A
Yeah, he's a good.
B
He's. He would like those shows, though. I know sometimes I watch these shows because they are kind of weird. I'm like, why do I like this? Maybe I need to. Not. Because it is talk about problematic. I mean, they are a little problematic, but sometimes boys, especially this kind of boy. Anyways, it's a whole thing. But that kind of guy, that kind of character. I hate that person in real life. Life. But for some reason, I'm really into the show and I'm just like, hate the way he treats women on the show. But here I am watching him.
C
That's what it is. We're attracted to what we hate.
B
Oh, my God, Here we go back to this. This in this case. Yeah. Especially this new one. I'm like, I don't really like this misogyny, but also here I am just, like, watching it. Sasha Baron Cohen's in it. No, we haven't seen him yet.
C
We still will.
B
He's getting canceled. Sasha Baron Cohen, huh?
C
Always.
B
Oh, Happy Cancels forever.
A
T. Oh, the canceled reboot. Canceled forever. She should trademark that. That's actually really good.
B
Who's the canceled?
A
I don't know who the reboot is with. I'm not gonna even dare go down that route.
B
But when, like, new poster.
A
Whenever. Because she said it might cancel. Might come back. So whenever it comes back, it has to be canceled forever.
C
Yeah. For that name alone, you need to do something.
A
Yeah, that's okay.
B
Canceled.
C
Canceled forever. Yeah, the tour, something.
A
You know, the comeback has to be canceled.
B
Brooke and Tasha Baron Cohen. Be a good podcast. I like it. I think.
A
Him asking her to put a finger up is better.
B
Oh, my God, that would be. Yeah, I forgot that.
A
That is canceled forever.
B
No. Borat was never funny.
A
I'm dead.
B
He's another in that age group. He's in the age group like Leo and stuff. It's like kind of their aging out of the Hollywood coolness because it. People thought he was cool at one point.
A
That's true. Yeah.
B
And people loved Borat.
A
Guys, the green.
B
Oh, like a Mankini.
A
Yeah, Mankini thing.
B
Everyone would quote it. It was so annoying. I Think he jumped the shark when he was in a David Dobrik vlog as Borat.
A
How come I don't remember that at all?
B
You remember it?
C
Yeah, yeah.
B
For the sequel. They were like. It was giving Megan marketing. He was just like, showing up everywhere Borat and like, he was in David's Tesla and it just was really bad and really cringy.
A
You know what I've been thinking about so much lately with everything being awry is the starting the year with David Dobrik's YouTube comeback. And we said that open Pandora's box.
B
Yeah.
A
You said you were gonna sit on the box and close it, but I don't think you sat hard enough.
B
Well, I mean, you're too skinny. Almost 300 pounds. Let me sit on that box and close it. You are so right. It was giving 2020, where it's like just the fires and the disaster and just everything happening, happening. I forgot about the David.
A
I was thinking about it. That's how the year started. It was crazy.
B
So peaceful when he was just like, not making content again, like, just keeping to yourself. We love that. Just like, you know, don't be seen.
A
Out of sight, out of mind.
B
Yeah. It's like, it was very peaceful. And then now it's like. Like granny. He does nothing, but still it's like. But then Jeff talking about it, I'm just like, oh, it just reminds you. That's like, God, he really is awful.
A
Mm.
B
Gotta cleanse it from the David Dobrik talk.
A
Well, I finally saw that interview you're talking about with Jojosiwa taking back Eddie, Freddie and Teddy.
B
Oh, okay. It was real. I'm like, did I make this up?
A
That was real. She got asked on the Capital on Capitol Buzz again. You can't keep a microphone away from JoJo in the UK. She will hop on any mic. I love it.
B
I love it. Again, so, so camp.
A
She got asked if those are still the baby names, and for some reason she just decided to do this interview in a British accent. So she was answering this in a British accent.
B
Love that.
A
Absolutely not. So I was a bad girl. I did some bad things. And that includes naming children. And the name that she chose now is Silver. Silver Siwa, which honestly kind of eats.
B
I kind of like Silver superhero. So she's not. She's. She's not going to name her kids that damn way. Your kids names is crazy. Especially once you were so adamant for.
A
Tattooed or allegedly tattooed. I don't know if the tattoos are real, but. And even had the sperm donor Lined up, that is. She had the whole plan, which is crazy.
B
Yeah.
A
Very crazy.
B
She loves to change your mind. JoJo's a girl who changes her mind.
A
Honestly. Tea, we love that. Yeah. And then I guess she had to cancel her U.S. tour. Yeah.
B
I was kind of excited for.
A
Just reminds me of, like. And this feels so long ago when people were mad about her ticket prices for the vip, remember? And it was like, you have a pizza party with her.
B
Did that happen? Or was that.
A
It was gonna be. And it got canceled. Yeah. Or postponed. I guess that's just.
B
Why did it get canceled?
A
No one knows for sure. There's speculation because she left her record label after her ep.
B
Okay.
A
And then I guess her. She has a bigger audience in the UK than she does in the US So.
B
Oh, she's moving there.
A
Like, maybe it's because of Chris Hughes. Some people were blaming Chris Hughes altogether. Like, she's abandoning her U.S. roots. Dam with lost. Meghan Markle from the U.S. i think.
B
We got her back.
A
We got her back.
B
Yeah. I love a Meghan Markle, too. They should go on tour together. How are you able. You were able to check. Speaking of private investigation, you were able to check, like, tickets. Like, how people. How many tickets?
A
I mean, it's just on Ticket Master. Wasn't that.
B
I can never figure it out.
A
You have to click the seating chart.
B
I don't know how to do that. Like, I wanted to do it, and it doesn't work. Like, My Chemical Romance is playing like a stadium, and I can't click to see how many little dots are there there. So can you do that with JoJo? Can you see how many dots?
A
Now you can't, because she canceled it. Well, let me see, let me see.
B
This is your private investigator here.
A
Because she was playing. Oh, it was the Belasco, so it was standing room, but.
B
Oh, so you don't you just buy, like, general admission?
A
Yeah.
B
Like, not whatever, but in general is like. Like, if tickets aren't selling, maybe you cancel a tour.
A
Like, JLO did that. That she canceled her tour. I mean, so there's that. That could be a thing, too.
B
I mean, no shame in it because, like, you know me, my tour was, like, sold 50 tickets the first time.
A
But she also had a Pride performance that she canceled in Chicago.
B
So she's just going through something in the uk Maybe.
A
I think so. Maybe some sort of rebrand is imminent or something.
B
Yeah, I get that.
A
Respect. Yeah. There was a theory, like, people were like, is she canceling Pride because she's with a man? Now, which is a little biphobic, I think. Or queer phobic. I don't even know.
B
Right, right. It's like, well, she clearly, you know.
A
I think she was still would eat up a pride performance. I feel like you can't keep her out of pride.
B
No, for sure. I mean, that's her whole brand. She loves the rainbows, the glitter.
A
She probably would probably love this beverage.
B
For sure. The gummy bears.
A
It is so Jojo. Yeah.
B
I would do a Jojo Siwa drink all day long. Whatever she comes out with, I would be there for. I would love a Jojo Siwa collab anywhere. I love her, you know. Yeah, she's probably just like in love, you know, she's probably like, I can't tour right now. I got a boyfriend. You guys.
A
Honestly, Tea, I think that that face, I was gonna say it does give off like early 20s.
B
Me would definitely cancel a tour to be with a boy. I'd be like, I'm sorry, I'm down today. I can't go. I would have for sure.
A
In every podcast too, she gets asked about Chris and was like, me and Christopher, we weren't even looking for love when we met. And we just all just kind of happ. I was like, but okay, you were.
B
You were in a relationship.
A
It's one of those things again, if she didn't bring it up all the time, you know, you just. You can't keep talking about how you met him.
B
Yes.
A
It's on tv.
B
You know, when you don't talk about. You forget. Like, it's like Lauren Sanchez and Jeff Bezos. Like, I was like, oh, they're kind of cute. And I was like, oh, but they were both married when they met, but they don't bring it up. So you kind of forget about it. Yeah, that was kind of cute.
A
You got to keep. You got to stop bringing up how you guys met and fell in love. Fell out of. Fell in love out of nowhere. Neither of us were looking for anything. Well, I would hope you weren't looking.
B
You're in a relationship. That be weird if you were looking for something. Neither one of us were looking for something. When you're talking about being married to the love of your life, like what?
A
Planning kids with your partner and everything.
B
Oh, that is a wild. Wild didn't make you work. Say, like when she was coming out of the house, he's like, you're not going to be lesbian anymore.
A
I know. And I hate that somehow he was correct. Cuz everyone was like, so boo Mickey Rourke. And he does suck. Yeah. Cuz even.
B
Yeah, yeah.
A
Even beyond that, he was still making really weird, like, comments about her.
B
At the very least that. But she was so adamant, like, no, I'm not.
A
I'm going to be my partner. Yeah, yeah, she was.
B
She was adamant.
A
She's all about growth, I guess. You know, even just realizing that those names were a little crazy is another, like, element of growth.
B
Yeah, she was really dedicated to it. Like my Elvis and my Malibu. They've been with me since, like, I was 14 years old. So I really was like, that's carrying through to the end. I thought hers might. I like the names.
A
All of them together, though, at the same, like, having triplets that are Freddy, Eddie and Teddy.
B
I thought Freddie was like the firstborn girl and then there was twins. Eddie and Teddy.
A
You are right.
B
Or was it Trip?
A
She. She said they would seem like triplets.
B
But she's getting pregnant back to back.
A
Yeah. I don't know if she was. I think it was just eggs and.
B
Oh, got it, got it. Just her eggs were. Named them.
A
Yeah.
B
Love that. Love naming the eggs.
C
Our mug cam today was Freddy.
A
Oh, that was Pedro Pascal.
B
I thought it was you. I was like, what is that? Where do we get that? That's so random.
C
Well, it's yours.
B
From where?
C
What do you mean?
B
Where would I have gotten it from London? No. Maybe.
A
Probably your Queen era, when you were obsessed with that movie, right?
B
Oh, I was obsessed with Rami Malek as Freddie Mercury. I don't know if I was ever obsessed with Freddie Mercury. I mean, he probably was wonderful because Robbie Malek did a good job portraying him. I don't know much about him, though.
A
But not from the movie, do I?
B
Huh?
A
From the movie. What do you know about him?
B
Oh, that's all I know. I can't go a deep cut about Freddie Mercury. I like him, though. I mean, he. He came out with that he had AIDS before he died. Is that what it was?
A
I have no idea. Yeah. Did that happen in the movie?
B
No. Oh, but the movie was like, wrong. They said they're like, he came out as AIDS before the farm. Farmade thing. And then I guess they said that didn't happen. He came out before his death.
A
I don't know.
B
It was like a whole. But I don't know, he seemed pretty. Seemed brave. I don't know. He seems like an activist or someone good for the gay community. Like, I, you know, he's handsome. Lots of teeth. Good songs, great songs, you know. Handsome. Yes. I loved it. I don't know Any other Freddy commentary out there?
C
Big hot topic today.
B
Freddie Mercury's death. Poor Freddie. And then JoJo cosplaying. Freddie was giving me cosplaying Gerard Ray vibes. Who I stopped. Like, when you pick a legend and you cosplay as them, so many people are like, no, that's like the leg is. That's like, the new generation knows that as, like, JoJo Siwa as Freddie Mercury. But I was like, my shows. Do. People come dressed as me dressed as Driveway. And they could not name, like, a My Chemical Romance on my own. No. I'm, like, ruining their image. Okay. We love to hijack people's fame and style. Jonah had a cosplay for every Freddie Mercury look. I was like. She was really. I remember the New Year's Eve. I knew her. I was dating someone, and they were like, they invited us. JoJo invited us to go see a Freddie Mercury impersonator here in Agoura Hills, actually. And I was like, no, we're, like, dating. We'll spend New Year's Eve together. He's like, actually, I'm gonna go with JoJo to this.
A
What?
B
They took a party bus there. It was Abby Lee, JoJo, this random person that I was. Yeah, it was very odd. And I was alone by myself on New Year's Eve. I was like, why weren't you guys together? And I was like, I don't know. You want to go to JoJo? So you want to go see a friend?
A
Did she make it a video or something?
B
It sounds like, I think, literally just for fun.
A
Oh. Because it sounds so outlandish that I'm like, oh, I guess it's a good video title.
B
She just really wanted to see a Freddie Mercury and pretend she's a real fan. Yeah. And I just. I was like, that was weird. Not on her part, on everybody else's, but anyways, okay, that's it. Would you go see Freddie Mercury impersonator with JoJo Siwa on new Year's Eve?
C
No, I really like Freddie Mercury. I used to listen to him as a kid.
B
So you give me Freddie Mercury vibe. You give me a lot of people vibes, but I think you give me Freddie Mercury vibes.
C
I could. With a white tank top. And.
B
Yeah, I think you would look good with, like, a mustache. I saw Adrian Brody the other day on, like, a scooter in New York City carrying a pink bag, and I almost was like, this gives me Moses vibes. But I feel like I say that about everybody with you, but I do think you look like a Lot of people. Freddie Mercury is a good one. Do a side by side. Jimmy, can you sing a little bit? And then we'll end it, I promise. Are we hearing is Radio Gaga.
C
Radio Goo.
B
Radio Goo. Is that what he says?
A
You are the queen.
B
He's like, that's. That's a random. I mean it's not random. I don't know that song.
C
Radio. Radio Goo.
B
Really?
C
Radio what? Sn.
B
That's good. Why do I feel like Gabbie Hannah's cats were named Radio and Gaga?
A
I think you're right about that.
B
Everyone really liked Freddie Mercury when that movie came out, I feel.
A
Because we reacted to a Gabbie Hanna video and I think. And that sounds familiar.
B
Yeah, I'm deep in the alarm. Okay, you guys. Oh my God, we have to go. We have Patreon to do. Damn, we got late. Finally was getting in the groove of it. Okay, here we are, guys. We are.
A
And here we go.
B
Weeks away from Oscar's birthday.
A
Oh yeah.
B
Weeks away from another baby born in July's birthday. And the Just Trish tote. Jimmy, that's coming your way. What is on there? Stickers of me. What is that? What's the top one?
A
The Lena one, right?
B
Looks like me on top.
C
Packed by Kelly. There's a picture of you above that. The thank you picture. And yeah, we have cups and mugs and hats.
B
Just at the end of the show.
C
At three hours later if you stay this late.
B
I love it. No, they must love these cuz Jimmy like was like, oh, can I have a. I was like, absolutely. Like I never give anything away. Cuz I'm like. I don't know if he. Sometimes it's like people just don't want that in their house. You know what I mean? But the fact that he wanted one, I was like, wow, that guess. Have whatever you want. Get it all today. Get the Cinny Sweeney ice cream. Mine's melting. I'm so hungry. Okay, we gotta order food and that's it. All right, Love you guys. Thanks for watching the Hot Topics. Weren't too bad today, right? We were too. We were nice about everything.
A
I don't know if I was that nice, but I. Yeah, you were.
B
You. Yeah, that's fine.
A
I'm mentally unwell, so whatever. Yeah, yeah, Tati. Dumb as hell. All of that, part two.
B
Here we go. Okay, we better do something feisty on Patreon today for this. Feisty. I love it. I'm in my healing ear, but I love a feistiness. I like a feisty. When it's not mean. We're happy to have you back. We'll see you guys in the next one. Bye.
Just Trish Podcast Episode Summary – July 3, 2025
Hosts:
The episode opens with a lighthearted discussion about a YouTube recommendation mishap. Trisha shares that an older episode, where she humorously declared the podcast over, was erroneously recommended to new viewers, leading fans to believe the show had ended.
Insight: The hosts emphasize their resilience and commitment to continue the podcast despite misleading suggestions online.
Trisha and Oscar delve into the "Sad Boy" merchandise they've developed, discussing the potential for a capsule collection and reminiscing about past designs.
Insight: The conversation highlights their entrepreneurial spirit and anticipation of the current trend's longevity.
Trisha opens up about recent personal hardships, including a car accident involving a friend, the loss of her grandfather, her grandmother’s funeral, and her mother's surgery for cancer.
Insight: This segment underscores the importance of mental health and the impact of personal loss on the hosts.
Trisha and Oscar engage in a deep discussion about age-gap relationships portrayed in media, using "Pretty Little Liars" as a primary example. They explore societal perceptions, normalization of such dynamics in earlier decades, and the ongoing discourse around consent and power imbalances.
Insight: The hosts critically analyze how media has historically depicted relationships with significant age differences and the evolving understanding of consent and ethics in such portrayals.
The discussion shifts to handling public criticism and online hate, particularly focusing on how Trisha responds to negative comments and the psychological toll it can take.
Insight: They share strategies for managing online negativity, emphasizing the futility of engaging with hostile comments and the importance of self-care.
Trisha and Oscar debate the transparency of celebrities regarding cosmetic procedures. They discuss instances like Khloe Kardashian’s openness about her surgeries and the mixed public reactions.
Insight: The conversation touches on societal standards of beauty, the pressures on public figures to maintain appearances, and the varying degrees of openness about cosmetic enhancements.
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to Sydney Sweeney's limited-edition collaboration with Baskin Robbins, where she launches unique ice cream flavors.
Insight: The hosts express excitement over the collaboration, highlighting Sweeney’s influence in blending entertainment with consumer products.
They discuss the broader impact of celebrity actions on public perception, referencing events like Jeff Bezos's wedding and the ensuing media frenzy.
Insight: This segment reflects on how high-profile events and behaviors shape public opinions and the challenges of maintaining a positive image.
Trisha and Oscar analyze various interpersonal conflicts among celebrities, including marriage dynamics, public disputes, and the complexities of maintaining personal relationships in the public eye.
Insight: The hosts explore how personal disputes and life changes among celebrities often become fodder for public discussion and media portrayal.
As the episode wraps up, the hosts briefly mention upcoming content, including birthdays, new merchandise, and continued discussions on hot topics.
Insight: The conclusion sets the stage for future episodes, maintaining engagement with their audience.
Notable Quotes:
Conclusion: This episode of "Just Trish" delves into a variety of topics ranging from personal hardships and mental health to the scrutiny of age-gap relationships in media and celebrity cosmetic surgeries. The hosts balance serious discussions with lighthearted segments, such as product collaborations, while sharing personal anecdotes and engaging in candid conversations about navigating public perception and online criticism.
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