Reacting to David Dobrik's Comeback Vlog & LEAKED Documentary Clip

Summary

Podcast Summary: Just Trish Episode: Reacting to David Dobrik's Comeback Vlog & LEAKED Documentary Clip
Release Date: January 9, 2025

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1. Casual Chat and LA Wildfires

Timestamp: 00:00 - 03:06

Trisha Paytas opens the episode with a relaxed conversation, revealing the chaotic morning in Los Angeles due to unprecedented wildfires. She shares personal experiences of evacuation and highlights the community's resilience.

Notable Quote:
Trisha Paytas (00:48):
"Crazy times here in LA. Fires are happening. We are safe. People around us evacuating, but we are safe."

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2. Golden Globes Drama: Demi Moore and Kylie Jenner

Timestamp: 06:07 - 08:58

The hosts delve into the viral incident at the Golden Globes where Demi Moore appeared to snub Kylie Jenner. Trisha defends Demi, emphasizing her genuine demeanor, while Oscar Gracey analyzes the public's reaction and media portrayal.

Notable Quote:
Oscar Gracey (06:00):
"The Internet kind of ran with that theory that Demi snubbed Kylie, but Tallulah Willis posted an Instagram story to shut that down."

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3. Fake News on Twitter: Ariana Grande and Benny Blanco

Timestamp: 09:02 - 14:00

Trisha recounts how she was misled by fake Twitter accounts claiming interactions between Ariana Grande and Benny Blanco. The conversation sheds light on the prevalence of parody accounts and the importance of verifying sources.

Notable Quote:
Trisha Paytas (09:02):
"It sounded like pop crazy and pop bass. It sounds like pop crave and pop face. It sounds like drop pop."

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4. Dating App Experiences

Timestamp: 17:03 - 19:35

The hosts share their personal anecdotes about navigating the world of dating apps. Trisha expresses frustration over unfulfilling dates, while Oscar discusses the challenges of finding meaningful connections in a saturated digital space.

Notable Quote:
Oscar Gracey (19:00):
"They were all just weird. Everybody I've ever went out with was just, like, so odd."

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5. Plastic Surgery and Body Transformations

Timestamp: 82:32 - 90:03

A significant portion of the discussion focuses on plastic surgery trends and the psychological implications of body transformations. Trisha expresses her fears about surgeries, while Oscar shares insights on the motivations behind such decisions.

Notable Quote:
Trisha Paytas (85:24):
"I mean, you really do put your life at risk and like I guess you do that any day."

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6. Relationships and Celebrity Gossip

Timestamp: 93:00 - 107:00

The conversation shifts to the dynamics of celebrity relationships, highlighting age differences and public perceptions. Trisha critiques the relationship between Ryan Reynolds and Blake Lively, while Oscar discusses the complexities of maintaining privacy in high-profile unions.

Notable Quote:
Trisha Paytas (95:24):
"He gives me the ick everywhere I see him."

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7. David Dobrik's Comeback Vlog & Leaked Documentary Clip

Timestamp: 110:36 - 143:24

The centerpiece of the episode revolves around David Dobrik's return to YouTube amidst ongoing controversies. Trisha and Oscar express deep concerns over Dobrik's accountability and the ethical implications of his content. They dissect the leaked documentary clips, emphasizing the lack of remorse and responsibility Dobrik displays regarding past incidents.

Notable Quote:
Trisha Paytas (143:09):
"I just feel like money can go such a long way because people love to donate when things go awry."

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8. Final Thoughts: Accountability and Moving Forward

Timestamp: 143:25 - 149:06

In conclusion, the hosts advocate for genuine accountability and positive actions over superficial transformations. They express hope for meaningful change in influencers' behaviors and emphasize the importance of supporting victims over chasing fame.

Notable Quote:
Oscar Gracey (148:14):
"I hope he's just gonna be better and set a better example."

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Summary:

In this episode of Just Trish, Trisha Paytas and co-host Oscar Gracey navigate through a blend of serious and light-hearted topics. From the immediate concerns of LA's wildfires to the intricate web of celebrity interactions and controversies, the hosts provide their unfiltered takes. A significant focus is placed on David Dobrik's contentious comeback, where they critically analyze his actions and the broader implications for influencer accountability. Throughout the conversation, they interweave personal anecdotes, expert opinions, and cultural critiques, offering listeners a comprehensive and engaging overview of the current pop culture landscape.

Transcript

[Trisha Paytas]

Hello, everyone. Welcome back to the podcast. It's very casual Thursdays here. Super casual Thursday. Don't adjust your screens. You might think. Is that Pamela Anderson? No.

[Oscar]

No makeup.

[Trisha Paytas]

With the Golden Globes. Yes. No, just me and my own glam team, which is me. Which is literally nothing. I fell asleep. Went back to sleep this morning and then put on some concealer. Today's episode is sponsored by Kickoff and Golden Nugget online Casino. We love you guys. Ad reads soon to follow. Crazy times here in la. Fires are happening. We are. We are safe. People around us evacuating, but we are safe. And, yeah, it's a crazy morning. Didn't know if Oscar was gonna make it. We live close to each other. So I did text him, you don't have to come. I was like, maybe stay home. It's fine.

[Oscar]

I think our areas are not as affected. But you lived here a long time. I lived here literally my whole life, and it's, like, never seen a wildfire.

[Trisha Paytas]

This bad just spreading everywhere.

[Oscar]

I think this is the biggest, like, metropolitan fire in LA history. And just, like, seeing the amount of people like this place and stuff, it's very heartbreaking. So even if, you know, we laugh and giggle today, like, our hearts are still with everyone that's been affected by.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my gosh, it's the wildfires.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

But you know what? People are, like, coming out. Did you see Steve Gutenberg was out in the streets helping people? And I'm like, that's, like, so cool at this time when people just, like, try to help out other people. A lot of people were looking for trailers to help animals move out and stuff. So it's nice that people come together when it's, like, times of crisis.

[Oscar]

Yeah. I think a lot of the times we can get very cynical about, you know, people looking out for themselves. But I think when push comes to shove, I think a lot of people do, you know, they look out for their neighbors. Some people didn't get emergency alerts, so they were going to their houses like, hey, we need to evacuate. So that is at least one good thing you see, you know, people helping each other.

[Trisha Paytas]

So it's really. Yeah, people do that around our area, too. Like, we evacuated one time a couple of years ago, and, like, our neighbors all came by to tell us because we were, like, new and didn't know, like, we didn't know, like, what it was in our area. So it is. Yeah, it is nice, like you said, when people can all come together. Devastating to watch. I don't. You know, I normally don't watch the news, but it's just literally everywhere. And then seeing it, you're just kind of like so shook.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Obviously every natural disaster, it's like your hearts can go out but you don't. When you don't witness it firsthand. Like the hurricanes in like North Carolina and stuff last year, like you see it but it's hard to comprehend because you don't know that area personally. But then obviously knowing LA personally, knowing that all these areas that are affected really adds a whole different element to, you know, the natural disaster too, when you have that like personal connection.

[Trisha Paytas]

So same people you know too. Like Heidi and Spencer's house.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Spencer's house burned down, which was so heartbreaking. It's been hard because I've been watching all the YouTube live streams of like the news and stuff and people are like, oh, that area. There's all rich people, they're going to be fine. But I guess, yes, that area is like kind of an affluent area. But there are normal people, like a lot of retired people, a lot of elderly homes, assisted living homes of unhoused people.

[Darian]

So there's trailer parks in that burn department buildings.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's no Topanga Canyon. Yeah. Is definitely a lot of like you said, older people. Just houses that have been there for so long. Well, we're here today, so we are.

[Oscar]

Here today and we are going to be doing our best to laugh and giggle and have a good time. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Disasters have.

[Oscar]

How do I transition? That's not a good one.

[Darian]

From one disaster to another.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. I was like, that's a bad transition. Just ask her.

[Darian]

I'm so sorry for the news. What's the next topic?

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't have a next topic.

[Oscar]

I know. I'm so unorganized today too. Just because it was like keeping up with everything that was going on and wanting to like monitor the fires and stuff and see what areas were safe. Oh my God. It took up like my. All my time.

[Trisha Paytas]

Same. I feel like that's all I was thinking about too.

[Oscar]

I was like, yeah. And, and like the wind was so.

[Darian]

Crazy I thought the windows are going to blow into our room.

[Oscar]

Literally.

[Darian]

Like the, the winds are just insane. And that's part of what people don't understand what's happening here. It's like you always have like little fires here and there and they set them down. But that one little fire with a hundred miles wind. Yeah, it just, in a second it becomes uncontrollable and it's.

[Oscar]

I woke up at 2 and couldn't go back to sleep. Because, like, it just sounded like my. My windows were already thin in my apartment, but it sounded like they were going to like, literally blow in. I was like, and you can't do anything?

[Trisha Paytas]

What do you even do?

[Oscar]

You're just like, I' strap down.

[Trisha Paytas]

Hopefully you don't get, like, blown away. It's like, so scary.

[Oscar]

The poor skinny people out there could freaking fly away. It was scary.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was not worried.

[Oscar]

I know we're hunkered, but Darian, you know, he's little. I'm like, I really think you should stay inside. I'm like, stay indoors.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Cuz damn.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is kind of true, actually. I didn't think about the little, like, just small people in general that weigh less because they were saying, like, small animals should be kept inside. But I was like, yeah, what about the people who weigh the size of a small animal? They should also stay inside, honestly.

[Oscar]

Cause the winds were like hurricane level winds. So it is very foreboding, though, that the day of, like, the fire, all these big natural disasters, and then with David Dobrik, which I'm sure we'll get to later, but I'm like, damn, it just. It was dark yesterday. It was dark.

[Darian]

Someone opens the gates of hell yesterday.

[Trisha Paytas]

Ooh. Yeah.

[Oscar]

It was just very overwhelmingly dark.

[Trisha Paytas]

It really was like, yeah. The David vlog felt very ominous to me when Mr. Beast appeared at the end. I was like, this feels like the beginning of something not good. But. Yeah, we'll get to that. We'll get to that later. We didn't even know our last Hot Topics that he. We didn't know till after Hot Topics filmed, when we went to our Patreon, that he was doing, like a comeback video. That's when we found it out, right?

[Oscar]

Yeah, that's when he started teasing on TikTok, his big comeback video. And yeah, we saw that, like, right after we finished filming the main episode. And it was like, okay, here we go.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And that was. That was. I had declared him enemy number one before I even saw that. And then I saw the vlog and I was like, oh, my gosh. But I guess, yeah, anyways, we'll get there.

[Oscar]

Yes. Should we transition to a little bit of, I guess, some tea? This was like another viral moment that I saw again, a hard transition out of that opener.

[Trisha Paytas]

But we tried to transition 20 times. I was like, oscar, go. Because I just was like, this is not a transition time for me.

[Oscar]

Well, there was a viral moment again from the Golden Globes, but this kind of went viral post Golden Globes with Demi Moore. There's a video of her going to Timothee Chalamet and Elle Fanning's table at the Golden Globes. And like, Kylie Jenner was like, really excited to see her and, like was trying to congratulate her, but people were saying like, Demi snubbed her. I like Kylie. I'm not like a Kylie hater despite everything, but even though I was kind of like, I don't know, I felt kind of bad for him. Like, people are really rooting for everyone to hate her.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, there is. Gosh. I. Oh, I know. It kind of makes me. It does make me sad because it's like she kind of wasn't bothering anyone. She didn't make it about her.

[Oscar]

You're just sitting there.

[Trisha Paytas]

She was literally just sitting there. I didn't see her get excited about. All I saw was like Debbie talking to the person next to and then going around, talk to Timothy. So I didn't see the part where she like got excited. So was she just like, hi. And then she was like, walk past?

[Oscar]

Yeah. She was like, congratulations. Like, she like had a big smash, said, congratulations. Kylie dressed up as Demi for Halloween this past year. Well, I think she just recreated like one of the photos.

[Trisha Paytas]

The striptease one.

[Oscar]

Yeah, yeah. So I think she probably is a fan, I'm assuming.

[Trisha Paytas]

So she walked past her. So she's like, congratulations. And she didn't even acknowledge her. She just walked past. I didn't see that part.

[Oscar]

You could see physically that she was excited. Like, very enthused to talk to Elle Fanning and talk to other people at the table. But for Kylie, I think she kind of just like walked back pass and no acknowledgement, not much acknowledgement.

[Trisha Paytas]

No touch on the arm, like, not really.

[Oscar]

Like you can see her, like look towards her for a second. So maybe she just. Oh, thank you so much. Like, who knows really? But yeah, the Internet kind of ran with that theory that Demi snubbed Kylie, but Tallulah Willis posted an Instagram story to shut that down. She said hi at everyone, but really the press, which, honestly I think it was mostly TikTok, but whatever, which is.

[Trisha Paytas]

Kind of the press nowadays nipping this.

[Oscar]

Straight in the bud. We spent New Year with Elle, so connecting with her after a win was a very organic thing to do. This angel, meaning Demi, was in total shock and delight and moving throughout a warm room of well wishers. There was not a snub of any sort. Had she seen kj, Kylie wanting to congratulate her, she would have Fully given her the time and space. Literally. Just give it all a break and let a gal enjoy her accomplishments.

[Trisha Paytas]

I can see that. I can see her being busy and just being, like, overwhelming. Yeah, for sure.

[Oscar]

Same thing with, like, the interviewers who, like, have those awkward Golden Globes moments. It is just so overwhelming. It's so, like over stimulation. So it's just easy to flub.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, no, for sure. You just want everything. You're so excited. And then. Yeah. If you, like, see someone you really know, I would go to the person I really know and be like, I won. Or whatever she said to her. But then she did go back around. Yeah, I don't think so. I don't think so either. I think, like you said, people just like to make Kylie seem like an outsider at these events or something. I don't know.

[Oscar]

I think all the celebrities know because they're literally just in a ballroom and they're surrounded by like, you know, press and other people who are just excited to see them. So they kind of know they're going to be recorded 24 7. So I just don't think there'll be like any purposeful shade because I feel like everyone's kind of on their best behavior because they don't want that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, like this. And they are looking. I got duped.

[Oscar]

You did?

[Trisha Paytas]

I did get duped. Why are there so many fake news accounts on Twitter? I thought it was like a pop crave or pop face.

[Oscar]

I need to pull up your thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because they were like, oh. Ariana Grande told Selena Gomez, like, something about, like, bloody Benny Blanco being like the ugliest person ever.

[Oscar]

Something you quote, tweete, drop pop, which is drop pop.

[Trisha Paytas]

It sounds like pop crazy and pop bass.

[Oscar]

It was a parody account and it said Ariana Grande, on accusations of trying to steal Benny Blanco, quote, the only way I touched that man is with a taser. She stated. And you said. Did she really say that? Where.

[Darian]

Exactly? You're exposing. You're exposing.

[Trisha Paytas]

The fake news sounded so real to me. What is like, is that something like kind of cutesy that she would say, like, you know how she's kind of like sarcastic and funny or whatever?

[Oscar]

She is kind of in her stand up comedian era.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I was like, she kind of just takes it, whatever. And I was like, where is this? Why do I find it anywhere? And then everyone's just like, I need to stop. I should probably delete that code tweet. I literally just like, I just thought I would know. I know. Pooh Crave now is not real. But I'm like this one. And then I should have looked at their account because they do have like other dubious. Even though we're using that word wrong. Someone said dubious is not.

[Oscar]

I'm kind of sticking with it though, because I think it's fun.

[Trisha Paytas]

Dubious sounds like devilish dubious, but they had a bunch of other dubious tweets, so. All right, thank you to the sponsor. Today's Episode Kickoff Kickoff is the number one credit building app in the App Store. We love Kickoff so much. We talk a lot about credit here and how good credit is so important. You may think, why don't you have any credit? I never been in debt, but I'm telling you you need some credit and to start building your credit Day Download Kickoff Advantages to having good credit or credit at all is showing that you can make payments on time. It's showing that you can get a loan and be a good responder to payments. It can get you higher, better rates. It can get you lower interest rates. You're not paying money on top of money, so you're not just owing more. For me personally, I wanted to rebuild my credit so I can refinance a lot of things. I was getting a lot of my loans, cars, houses with higher interest rates, and when I was able to rebuild my credit, I was able to get better offers. So I'm not owing so much money on top of money, especially cars. If you have good credit, you can get way better deals with cars. Otherwise you're going to be just paying double of what that car is. Whether you're young and just starting out, Kickoff is a good way to build up your credit. Or if you're someone who has damaged credit, Kickoff is a way to get that back in line with small payments. Kickoff Basic is their most popular plan at just $5 a month. Kickoff Premium is an even more powerful, feature packed plan. At $20 a month. Kickoff gives you a credit line just for credit building and reports it to the three major credit bureaus. Kickoff helps you quickly improve the key factors and determine your credit. Factor 1 your new account immediately diversifies your credit mix. Factor 2 each on time Monthly Kickoff payment builds payment history Fact because your monthly payments are so small, your credit utilization, the amount of credit you're actually using, gets healthier faster. So after all the holiday spending, the start of the new year can feel like a hangover for your credit. But you can get things back on track for 2025 and start building your credit today. With Kickoff, their plan starts at just $5 a month and there's no credit check, no hidden fees and no interest. If your credit is under 600, you could jump like 28 points in your first month. Kickoff is a smart legit credit hack with no catch, no credit check, no hidden fees and no interest. It's simple. You make on time payments. Credit bureaus see good behavior and a credit grows fast. Start building credit immediately for only a dollar for your first month with Autopay. You never have to worry about missing a payment so you can build your credit in your sleep. This is so important. I really do think my credit was shot because I just forgot to make payments. I just want to remember, send that check in, call the phone. You don't want to be on hold. Autopay takes it out for you. Everything I have now is on autopay and my credit has never been better. Kickoff is the number one credit building app out there. It has over 100,000 positive reviews on the App Store and 98% are five star stars. Shake up that credit hangover and look forward to brighter credit with kickoff. Get your first month for just a [e-mail] Trish today. That's 80% off kickoff without the C. Get K I k o f f.com Trish must sign up via getkickoff.com Trish to activate offer. Offer applies to new customers first month only, subject to approval. Offer subject to change terms and conditions may apply. Points are based on Equifax Vantage Score 3.0 changes for kickoff users starting under 600 who made the first on time payment between January 21 and March 2024. Payment and credit activity outside Kickoff can have an impact on your cred. Results may vary. Shake off the credit hangover. Get your first month for just a dollar at getkickoff.com/trisha day. Thanks to Kickoff for sponsoring us. I don't know. I know. I thought that was, you know, I think, I don't know, I think she like, she could say it and get away with it. You know what I mean? Because people accuse her of like, because she talked about the Ethan Slater like look alike contest. Someone asked her about it and she was cutesy about it. So I was like, oh, maybe she's being cutesy about the Benny Blanca.

[Oscar]

Yeah, she's been having jokes lately. I kind of like her little like bit era. She always, she has a bit at all these little shows. So I guess there is a world. But she also is just so kind. So I don't know, she'll never be like this ugly guy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I feel like. Didn't we talk about this? I feel like Benny Blanco needs to be left alone, too.

[Oscar]

Yeah, we did last night. It's so true. Maybe. God, it is crazy. I am going up to bat for a straight man. It's. I don't 20, 25 off to a wild start, but I'm like, damn, he just existed. Be a little nicer to Benny Blanco. I'm like, jesus.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. He literally is just there, and people are just, like, just there.

[Oscar]

Like, didn't even, you know, walk the carpet with Celine. I just sat next to her, took.

[Trisha Paytas]

A picture of her while she was posing and was like, this is my award of the evening and best awarded it. I was like, he's just so sweet. And people are just so.

[Darian]

Have you ever seen his toes?

[Trisha Paytas]

No.

[Oscar]

Oh, I know. He paints his toes.

[Darian]

He has, like, a whole art gallery on his toes. Like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, like. Like art on there.

[Darian]

Like, manicured, like, polish, like.

[Oscar]

Yeah, he loves toes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, but is it, like, art. Is, like, art pieces on there?

[Oscar]

Like, artistic?

[Darian]

Yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's not just, like.

[Darian]

No, no. Actual things?

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Darian]

Sculptures on his toes.

[Oscar]

Like, you know, used to get those, like, charms and stuff on him, too.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's wild.

[Darian]

Wild stuff, too. So it's like, wait, that's so cool. He does have a lot of, like, background. He's out there, he's quirky, doing a lot of stuff. So I think it's easy for people to take that and put it together into making him look a certain way.

[Trisha Paytas]

Literally do that about anybody. Be like, this is everything wrong with this person.

[Darian]

But he's out there just being very.

[Oscar]

Outgoing, you know, he's very eccentric, for sure. But here's the thing. I would love to throw out there if he was a hot man who was eccentric. Like a classically hot guy, like, someone everyone loves now. Like Andrew Garfield. There's so many thirst tweets for Andrew Garfield at the Golden Globes. But if it was Andrew Garfield being quirky and eccentric, I think people be like, he's so hot. I love Andrew Garfield. So quirky. But because Benny isn't, like, traditionally, like, hot, I guess people are, like, a lot harder on him.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, he's definitely not traditionally hot, but.

[Oscar]

He'S trying to be sweet about it.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I think that's why people need to be nicer. You know what I mean? It's like, people get so mean to people. Kylie Jenner's gorgeous, so people like to take jabs and, like, whatever, because she's, like, a pretty girl. And like, okay, let's like, bring her down a notch. But he's like, he's already brought down a couple notches. You know what I mean? Don't bring him down more. I don't know. It's just, I think that's kind of.

[Oscar]

Especially in this era, like, he just got engaged. Like, maybe we just be sweet to him for a little bit, you know, like when he does something dastardly, then. Sure. But he really is just living like, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Being sweet, just existing.

[Trisha Paytas]

And by the way, Andrew Garfield, I do know someone who went on a riot date with him and he has some problematic stuff about him.

[Oscar]

Really?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. So I feel like people are a little too much like, oh, my God, Andrew Garfield. It's like, we don't know anything about this man.

[Oscar]

You know, he's very secretive and he's.

[Trisha Paytas]

Still on Ryan and he's always on Ryan. And I think he was on Ryan when he was dating the witch. You know what I mean? I think he's been on Ryan for a very long time, which is like, fine. But also, is it when you think about celebrities on Raya, like John Mayer, who's been on there forever, and you're just kind of like, hmm, why are you on Riot? You know what I mean? In general, people on dating apps. I was on dating apps and I know the people that are on dating apps and it's just like, I remember I would join at 18, like Tinder and I'd go back on at like 28, and you'd see the same people and you're just like, what's wrong with you? Me too. I was on there. But you're also just like, what is wrong with us? Why are we still on these apps, Everybody?

[Oscar]

I did see a tweet that was like, again, I love Andrew Garfield. I'm just, you know, pointing out both sides, I guess. But I did see a tweet that was like, you know, he's 41 years old. He also had like one long term relationship. That was Emma Stone. So someone was like, what is wrong with him? If. If he like, he's on the apps, he's obviously trying to date, but he hasn't had like a long term relationship since Joan.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Is he like a little playboy or.

[Darian]

I think that you're nothing to apps to date anymore.

[Trisha Paytas]

This is just to especially Raya, because people I know, I actually know only one person met him off Raya. And it is very. That it's very like hookup vibes. But I guess that's what it is? I don't know. I don't. I wonder if there is a dating app. There should be one, Holly. Like, just love. Like, looking just for love.

[Darian]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

A little hookup, I guess there's like, Christian Mingle or something. But I'm sure they get down. I'm sure they get freaky on Christian Mingle.

[Oscar]

Hinge was supposed to be the one that was like, you. I think the advertising campaign was, like, you join it to, like, delete it at some point. Like, it was marketed as, like, the more serious one. Although I don't know how, like, true that is. You know what I mean? I don't think I did Hinge. I mean, I did the gambit.

[Trisha Paytas]

What's the gambit?

[Oscar]

I did all of them. Like, did all of them.

[Darian]

Yeah. That puts you on all of them.

[Oscar]

Honestly. Yeah. It was a lot to manage. Like, you almost need, like, a dating app manager because it is, like, you know, got to open one the other. It's, like, a lot to look at and stuff.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I think you should do that because they, like, compile all the best ticket sales and dating.

[Oscar]

All the best, like, matches. Yeah. Honestly, Tea.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. To keep dating app.

[Oscar]

That is, like, kind of a good idea. It's, like, so many apps that you have to, like, you stay on top of, so you kind of sh.

[Trisha Paytas]

I never met anyone good off the app. Did you.

[Oscar]

Did you meet.

[Trisha Paytas]

No. You didn't meet your boyfriend off the apps?

[Oscar]

No, I didn't meet my boyfriend off the apps.

[Trisha Paytas]

I haven't met anyone good off the apps.

[Oscar]

I've dated off the apps, but nothing long term. I've gone on dates, but that's it.

[Trisha Paytas]

They were all just weird. Everybody I've ever went out with was just, like, weird. There wasn't, like, one, like, kind of normal person on there. And I was on there, too, so I'm not like, whatever. But I was just like, dang. All of them were just, like, so odd. A lot of ghosting. One guy showed up with, like, an American Express gift card. One guy didn't leave my house. Like, it was very much that.

[Oscar]

It was just Megan Express gift card.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And it was kind of a celebrity, too. And he's like, here's. He showed up with a $50American Express gift card and, like, put it on my nightstand.

[Oscar]

I was like, okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

So weird. Transactional without it being cash, I guess. I don't know. It was very odd. And I was like. And that was actually, I think, the very last person I dated slash hooked up with before me. And Moses started dating and I was like, this is weird. I'm just getting off these apps.

[Oscar]

I never got a gift card. I would have gladly taken one.

[Trisha Paytas]

From where?

[Oscar]

Panda Express? Like Jamba Juice? Pretty much anywhere.

[Trisha Paytas]

Java Juice is a good one.

[Oscar]

Very easy. As you know, my favorite movie. But she remember she was getting gift cards like Red Lobster. Yeah, I do love a Red Lobster.

[Trisha Paytas]

Although I think they're closing everywhere. That's what I heard. Maybe someone saved them. But, oh, well, everyone needs to leave Kylie alone. I get it though. I And Benny Blanco. I mean, people. Cause. Well, as long as it's not on me. I do understand when people get, like, a lot of hate and stuff and it makes me, like, sad. But I'm like, as long as I'm not the one getting there. Because there is a time where people just, like, relentlessly, like, pick on you for stuff that you're not even doing. Like, if you're doing something problematic, okay. But if you're just, like, existing and people want to, like, pick at you, it's like, yeah.

[Oscar]

And I get there are problematic qualities. She, Kylie. I'm not saying. I'm not saying she's like, you know, the ultimate, you know, great role model, whatever. She, obviously I get, like, how she perpetuated, like, kind of an unattainable beauty standard. I get all that stuff. But right now she really is just kind of low key.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like.

[Oscar]

Yeah, she's not really trying to sell a lip kit or anything right now.

[Trisha Paytas]

So that's kind of like Michaela too. Do you know you follow her at all to Tick Tock Michaela? Yeah, she is getting, like, so much hate right now. And she's. Jesus. Like, this one is a little crazy. Look again, I don't mind. Mikayla.

[Oscar]

Sweet girls today. We're so sweet.

[Trisha Paytas]

But, like, the Michaela is kind of wild. And I kind of just didn't even realize how much hate she got until she keeps making so much videos about these hate. And I was like, damn, okay, she gets a lot of hate now she's getting hate for talking about being sad because she's like, oh, I've been going through something really difficult and she's like, really sad. So not every video is like, she gives like 17 million, 18 million videos views on these videos. So now every video she talks about how sad she is, how she went through the worst year of her life. She's like, crying. She's like, I cry myself to sleep every night and it's just been awful. You guys don't even know. And you Know you all say, because I have money, it doesn't buy happiness. I get by his comfort, but it doesn't mean happiness. Like, so she's like alluding to stuff but not telling anybody exactly what it is. So everyone is pissed because they think she's like milking it for views that she's like, now she's just saying it because like every video then she had one in bed and people are like clocking her because she set up the tripod, but she's like eating McDonald's and crumbles like, you guys, I'm just eating my feelings today and whatever. And then people are speculating, like, the bed's not made next to her. So her and Cody are having problems like, speculating. And everyone's like, well, she sees the speculation. Why doesn't she just say what it is? But then she said, I've been following up on text. Then she was doing get ready with Me and she's like, guys, I literally can't tell you what's happening right now, but once I can, you know, I will. So then I was like, oh my God, even me. I'm like, oh my gosh, like, what is it? Like, what can't you tell us? You know, she did her very first I'm not well video was directed towards Richlock. She like, was like, yeah, you, Richlock. So I was like, what did Rich Lux do? Because let's face it, Rich Lux gets a very niche small community that follows Rich. Like. So I was like, wait, Michaela, who gets 18 million views on a tick tock, is had the worst year ever. And the only thing she like, said specifically was like, yeah, I'm talking to you, Rich Lux, you piece of what? Yeah, she was like, pissed, but I was just like, I don't ever see him pop up. I don't even know. Like, I had no idea she was talking about. So I'm like, is this all about Rich luck? So that's what I'm saying. The speculation, so weird. I'm like, what did he do? And girl, if it's about richlogs, like, like, stop crying. Like, it's really not that big of a deal. You know what I mean? Like, Rich Lux is, I don't know, he's fine. I think he's a character. I think he's a character. So when I'm saying, like, oh, no one really cares. I don't think anyone cares about like the character he plays, which is like a drama king, right? Is that what his character is?

[Oscar]

So I don't know, there is a campiness to him where it's not like I would think, like, oh, the ultimate in journalistic integrity. I'm like, you know, he's just kind of gabbing, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I think the last video he dubbed me was like, Trisha Payne as Barkin's fake or something.

[Oscar]

You know, like, whatever he says campness.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what I was thinking. Like, what could he have possibly said? Because I don't think he likes, like, fat shames people or like, makes fun of people's looks. Like, not to say that's like the worst hate you can get online. But I was just like, that's so. So then I'm like, so I'm right there with everybody. I was like, oh, my God, what is it? Because Michaela's like, I'm just crying. Like, literally her last was, I'm trying myself to sleeper. And you do, like, feel for the person. You kind of do want to know what's going on. If they're like, sharing all that stuff and shows you guys. I'm a content creator. Like, of course I have to set the tripod up when I'm eating, like, whatever. Which I get her. That's that very argument when I did the Soul Boom, when Rain Wilson was like, wow, you set up a tripod to film your breakdowns? Like, well, can't hold it. It's kind of uncomfortable, you know, like, that's such a weird, like, thing to say. Because you said it takes 10 seconds to have a tripod. It doesn't take that long. But people's arguments are weird. But I on that is like, I think Michaela, I don't know, but I gotta read her comments. Her comments seem nice. So I was like, is she just focused on the one person Rich, like, said hates her, or does she get that much hate comments? Because to me, I'm like, she just puts on makeup. Like, what are people hating on?

[Oscar]

Yeah, I know. I. For me, like, obviously I've been going through family stuff and I've always had the internal conflict of, like, do I talk about it or do I just, like, pretend nothing's going wrong? And so I like to just like, Like, I don't know. I'm trying to, like, find the balance. So I get people kind of being upset when, you know, someone is making it their whole, like, brand and then can't really disclose, like, what's going on. Because I think people, like, want to empathize but feel like they can't if they don't know exactly what's going on. Yeah, I get trying to find that balance and I get being sensitive. I'm very, very sensitive too, towards, like, comments like that. Like, I always will, like, pick the one and then that will stay with me more than like the nice ones. But she's so big. I feel like she almost needs to be like a Pokimane that like has someone who literally just goes through comments for her and then Pokimane doesn't see them. Yeah, I feel like that's kind of the tea because there is so much love out there for her. For sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's all I see when I went to her comments, like, everyone's just being really nice.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Just hire someone who's just only showing you sweet things.

[Trisha Paytas]

Exactly. That's what Moses does on here. But you know what, you don't monitor my tick tock comments, do you? No, I never get bad ones on there. I never do. I'm always like, knock on wood. But people are like, so nice. And I was like, but maybe I really did put on like rose colored glasses. But I don't see it because I was like, wow. I never get like mean comments or anything like that. So I don't know, maybe someone monitors. Can someone monitor my comments about me approving it?

[Oscar]

I don't think so.

[Darian]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

I thought there was like moderators that can do that.

[Darian]

I think it's just a different generation of fans that you got.

[Trisha Paytas]

They're nicer.

[Darian]

Tick tock.

[Trisha Paytas]

So nice right now. I just want that. I'm gonna put that onto the universe. In the midst of all the fires and David Dobrik's return, I just want positive vibes of good comments because it's been so nice. I was like, wow, it's actually so n. Like not read like, you're fat, you're ugly.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Be with your kids. Everyone's just like, yay. Yeah, I don't know. And on here we don't get too many, like, you'll tell me, like, if there's any bad comments and like, not really, no.

[Darian]

But I think in general we see on social media that even small, even small creators, they get a lot of hate.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Darian]

I think there's just a new way of consuming content now and there's people that just consume hate content and hate watching and that's all they do, you know, so where before they wouldn't be even interested in that creator, now they're just interested in that creator because they hate them and they want to hate them and they want to go on all the different forums and Find gossip.

[Trisha Paytas]

And the best piece of advice for Mikayla too is like, stop giving the attention. Because I think people love when they like rile people up. You know what I mean? And yes, maybe she, if she is doing a reviews is great. She's getting 18 million views. So she'll keep doing it, I guess, if you want. But when you like give people attention, they like know that they rile you up, you know what I mean? And it's like, it just gives them more ammo to be like, okay, let's keep attacking. Yeah, you know what I mean? As opposed to like, if you just like ignore it and keep it moving.

[Oscar]

It literally will be every creator. I think that goes for that too. Like I was watching like Smokey Glow the other day and she's like, obviously I don't know anyone less problematic, you know, like, she's just very like very wholesome, very like, I don't know, tries to be very emotionally sound and give like really good criticism and stuff. But even she was like, I get a lot of hate comments. I'm not feeling it today. Like people body shaming people get mad that I say I went to college. I was like, what? Like, that's even like smokey clothes getting it. So then it really is just something that affects every creator. And like it's sad but you kind of just. It kind of comes with a job, I guess, learning how to, you know, deal and navigate.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, maybe I'm just like old and people are like, oh, we'll just give her a passion. She's old. She has a mom bond. There's nothing to be jealous of anymore. Let's just let her. But you know what I mean too. Like, I think it does come like respect your elders at a certain. It's like Wendy Williams. Like everyone kind of liked her and like gave her a pass. Cause like, well, she's old.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, it's like, well, that's where I'm headed to. No one's like in competition with me. No one's like, oh, Trisha's going on a tarte trip. Although I did get invited down to this tart trip that's coming up.

[Oscar]

Oh shoot, that's a bang dm.

[Trisha Paytas]

I got one through my agent. I got one through my own email. I was getting all the hit ups for the tarte trip.

[Oscar]

That's wild.

[Trisha Paytas]

Which is wild because I feel like all we do is talk shit about the tarte shape tape. Could you imagine I'm on there?

[Oscar]

I'm like, love shape tape. No creases under my eyes.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm sorry, I really just don't get those trips. And now that I can say that I've been actually invited on one, I just don't really get them. So it's like you go on a free trip, like, with a private jet, which is like, so out of, like, touch nowadays. Like, you like. I wouldn't even want to be on a private jet because that's, like, scary.

[Oscar]

Yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

It doesn't feel right for a multitude of reasons. Obviously it's economic state, but also just like the. What is it? The fuel, the carbon footprint of it all. And I started washing my underwear now. I used to throw underwear after each time and now I want wash my underwear. So I reuse it.

[Oscar]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because everyone's like, wow, your carbon footprint. Also the person who told me that does fly on private jets a lot, and I was like, also, you're on a private jet all the time. But. But I was like, and. But also you get a free trip, but then you have to, like, then you are there and they give you all the products. You're like doing commercials for them the whole time and you're with other creators and influencers. This sounds like a nightmare just to be with, like a creator. Influencers 247 on an island, just constantly creating content. I love content. I love meeting people. But like, like, that would be awful, wouldn't it?

[Oscar]

It does seem draining because, like, you're all kind of doing like the same video kind of. You know what I mean? And it's like, to me, not that worth it. Especially because everyone that goes on them is like, pretty rich. So, like, you can't just do it yourself, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

So it's like, that's understood. Because you remember even a while ago, like, I guess it's like the camaraderie of it all or whatever. Because I remember Jeffree star went on one like, in like 2019, and I was like, okay, you're literally so rich. Like, just do this vacation on your own. Like, it's so. It's so up. But people always go on and they get so excited to be invited. I don't think it's like a bad thing. I just, like, don't understand it. Like, I just think that's like the most overstimulating. You're doing like this big commercial for them and, like, they're making money, but you're not because you're just there on the free trip promoting tarte. I don't know.

[Oscar]

It's like, it does seem like a Cool trip. Like, you know, they have when they post. No, really? No. I think I would, again, just be, like, very overstimulated and, like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Oscar]

I'm also, like, not that social. So that's like. Like, social.

[Trisha Paytas]

Last year, you were going out with everybody, all the it girls. You're with Misha, you're with Annabie Collins. Like, you're with everybody. I was just like, all right, social butterfly.

[Oscar]

You're like, twice a month.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, you were always. You were going to, like, a DJ set. You're going, like, everywhere.

[Oscar]

That's true. I did. Do I. I did a little bit of stuff, but that was, like, again, maybe at maximum, like, once a week, you know, but that. This is like a whole week every day.

[Trisha Paytas]

A whole week, every day.

[Darian]

Claustrophobic.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Darian]

Here you choose one event with one person.

[Oscar]

You really want to prepare for it.

[Darian]

But over there, it's like you're kind of stuck with these people, and you don't know how it's gonna go.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess people just like. Yeah, I guess. Yeah, I guess there's two types of people. People who just want to be around. Yeah. Like, people just wanna be around everybody. And then people just wanna.

[Darian]

Also, if you're an influencer and you have no ideas for content or something, like, they're just giving you, like, oh, this is easy. I just have to be.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I don't know. I just feel like it's like. I don't know, because everyone's, like, rich on those trips. And all the comments, like, on the last heart trip, I think they were. Bor Bora is like, why don't you, like, fly out? And, like, it doesn't make sense, like, financially, when people are like, why don't you fly out? Like, fans or customers who buy the products that obviously they don't have that, like, influence in the pool. And obviously they're doing it for the commercial aspect. But it is, like, sad because it's like, so many people, like, want to have that vacation, can't afford it, and these influencers, like, can. So it's just kind of like a weird. Because I think in 2025, we talked about the Alabama record Christmas haul on our Patreon. It's like, I don't know if people, like, want to see, like, people buying Prada bags and stuff like that or, like, what car you drive or what house you live in, because it's just like, I don't know, kind of just gives you, like a. It makes you either feel bad, it gives you, like, an ick feeling, then you start thinking, like, what about everyone else in the world? Like, I don't know. It's just like a weird. A weird thing, but. Cause it used to be so cool. Remember? Everyone would love to, like, show off their, like, wealth.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, purses. And I did it too, and I was just like, what we were talking about how, like, I would say I'd be broke after each one. I was never having any money.

[Oscar]

You got it more relatable because you spent all your money on.

[Trisha Paytas]

I spent all my money. Went broke at least four times as an adult.

[Oscar]

Lived in the apartment.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, but. But I thought I had to do because I. Everyone would show off their stuff. So I was like, oh, my gosh, I want to get, like, all these purses and everything and show them off too. And then they become worthless, which is why I did my Birkin video. Because I was just like, at the end of the day, like, all these are kind of, like, worthless. You know what I mean? Like, they're. I don't know. You just, like, waste money if you have, like, all the money in the world. I guess.

[Oscar]

But, like, I think before maybe it was. Maybe it felt attainable, but right now, it's like, damn, people are working so hard just to, like, meet ends. Meet. And then also, I think, too, there's so much more knowledge about how much, like, influencers make for, like, brand deals and stuff. So I think that knowledge too, like, oh, you get $20,000 for one post. So it's. And I'm sitting here, I have to make that in months, you know, so.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is actually so true. Did you see was Dave Portnoy disclosed Grace O'Malley's salary?

[Oscar]

Oh, no.

[Trisha Paytas]

He. First off, sounds like the boss from hell. You guys know I kind of like, Like, I like, somewhat liked David Port Dave Porter. Like, I don't know, something about him was, like, a little charming during BFFs, but, like, honestly, I don't know how she does it. Doesn't sue him as, like, the, like. See, he's the CEO of Barstool still or.

[Darian]

No, I think he got back in.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's like, okay, so Barstool's like, his company. He's the. He's obviously like, the boss. He knows that. But He Basically, Grace O'Malley went on the Avon and said her salary, like, wasn't great or something.

[Oscar]

She said.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's like. And, you know, she said in comparison to Bree, she wasn't, like, getting as much. Whatever. And so Dave obviously took, like, such offense. He's like. But he's like, constantly on her. I was just like, okay. So he, like, took such offense. So he decided to, like, disclose how much he paid her. He's like, her starting salary was 175,000, but didn't disclose Breeze, which is, like, crazy. It's like, you're gonna talk about Graces, but that was. Her starting was 175. Then he said she got, like, 70% of brand deals that they got for her socials. And then he said, how much she made last year with that? Like, another 75. He's like, in total, she made $250,000 last year. So basically disclose every. Every single thing she made.

[D]

All right, real quick, just want to clear this up. Grace O'Malley was on Theo Vaughn's podcast talking about her salary and how much she got paid at Barstool. Now, the podcast, the clips that I'm getting peppered with, maybe a little bit out of order or not. Not totally making sense, but the end of it. I. I think Grace kind of made it seem like she's like, I had an interesting contract at Barstool. I wasn't getting paid nearly as much as, like, my friend there.

[Oscar]

I didn't make anything when I was there. Half your pocket podcast, but you had a country. You got paid something annually.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. So I. I got. I had a salary.

[Oscar]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

And that was. That was kind of it.

[Darian]

Was it a good salary?

[Oscar]

It was decent, but my buddy was.

[Trisha Paytas]

Making a little bit more. A lot of bit more. A whole ton more.

[Oscar]

Okay.

[D]

I didn't get paid anything on the tour. Bar still took it all.

[Oscar]

Podcast touring, that is so easy.

[Trisha Paytas]

I.

[Oscar]

It feels like stealing. What? But I never made any money off of it.

[Darian]

Really?

[Trisha Paytas]

Bar still took it all?

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Off your tour? Yeah. No way. Yeah.

[D]

Again, could have been cut up, misconstrued a little bit. It does bother me when people make it seem like they're not getting paid fairly. And I think we treated, as I've said from the beginning, Grace, great. So, again, I'm just going to say exactly what she got paid instead of talking like hypotheticals and, you know, not exactly putting numbers down. I'll just say what her contract was. She was finishing up her third year at Barstool. Her base salary, 175 grand a year. On top of that, that she got 70% of anything that we were able to sell on our personal socials. So if we have, like, ads, it's like, hey, Grace, do this on your Instagram. She gets 70% of that. So she got another 75, 000 in 2024. That way. Total salary for last year, quarter million $250,000 to Grace. I think that's pretty fair, pretty good. I know she's like, my friend made a lot more than I did. She's referring to Bri. I mean, Bri was a much bigger personality, way more followers, bigger everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

So, of course, there was one half of the people being like, wow, Grace is so out of touch, because on the Ovon's podcast, like, it wasn't a great salary. Then there was the people who's like, she lives in New York. That isn't a great salary. And then the other. The other half of people were like, well, we need to know Breeze in comparison. Because it's like, well, what? Like, how are you gonna just say she makes this much and call her, like, ungrateful or whatever and not to disclose Breeze? So that was, like, a really interesting thing because I was like, that's a wild thing to just like. Because I think. Did Logan Paul do that too? With Georgie? He, like, put out exactly what he paid him. I'm like, there has to be the same amount. Was it.

[Darian]

Yeah, it was around 3,50,000.

[Trisha Paytas]

So it's so crazy to just put that out there. Like, that's like. That seems like it shouldn't be legal to, like, disclose how much you're paying your employee. Because she didn't want. She didn't obviously ask for it. Not everyone knows this thing. It's out there. It was. Was. Because it does make her seem out of touch, obviously, like, with people, like, who don't make $250,000 a year. But, you know, a lot of people had her side. A lot of people didn't. But even when she left, I remember Dave did a whole podcast just, like, attacking Grace and why she made posts about Brianna and stuff like that, and was just, like, defending Brie, but didn't have Grace on there to, like, you know, combat what he was saying. So it's just, like, so odd, this whole thing with her, because people, especially with Dave, it's like, you're someone's boss. Like, how are you gonna, like, attack them and, like, pick on them? It was just such a weird thing. So the half. The Internet's like, wow, Grace is so ungrateful. So out of touch. And then the other half, like, well, what was Breeze?

[Darian]

You know, you have to learn when to just let it go. Like, just let her. Okay. She said she didn't get paid much. So what? You know, next time, next person you hire, whatever, like, you give Them more, you give them less. Like, it's not a big deal. She didn't say you were an awful boss. She didn't say, like, she was actually pretty nice about it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, she did say she was grateful.

[Darian]

Just let it go, okay? So she doesn't feel. That's her feeling.

[Trisha Paytas]

He was so pissed. He was just like, yeah, because she finally got to talk on the Theo Vaughn podcast. She didn't get to talk on BFFs because they didn't invite her on. So this was, like, her first time getting to talk about it. And, yeah, like you said, I mean, that's how she feels. That's how she feels or whatever, but.

[Darian]

Not a big deal. It's not for you. Because he's like, know your place. Like, if you've considered yourself the boss, the CEO, all that, it's beneath you. You don't need to be in every dollar of every person making it public and defending yourself.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like, yeah, it was weird because also, it's like, again, not giving fair treatment to both of them. Like, you're only disclosing Graces, but not Breeze. Like, that's crazy. Tells how much she got paid. You know what I mean? Like, it's just. I don't know. It was a little ick. But Grace did say she was, like, grateful. What's the other thing? Oh, the other one was that she didn't get paid for the tour that she went on with Bri.

[Oscar]

Really?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. So she said she didn't get any of the money, which. This was the one thing, because I was thinking. I thought, like, when he said the money, I was like, that's pretty good. I mean, he said she came to Barstool with no followers. So in my opinion, I thought that was a pretty good salary. But the not getting paid to go on tour was crazy. And he. Dave's defense was like, well, it was Breeze Tour, which is wild because it's like, if it was Breeze to her, then Brie should have gone on her own. You know what I mean? But the fact that Grace was. I don't know how many stops. I should look this up. I don't know how many stops. I don't know the capacity, but she didn't get anything. And then Dave's defense was, well, we use that money to pay your guys's salary. Which I'm like, that's not true. Because you're getting ad reads, you're getting all this stuff like that. Like, it was just.

[Oscar]

The tour was two weeks in six cities.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, okay.

[Oscar]

Sure. But short.

[Trisha Paytas]

But still.

[Oscar]

Still. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's not. It's not easy.

[Oscar]

It's not like she was a special guest. Like, she was at every.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Was she doing the meet and greets with her? Like, are they photos together? Like, that seems. It seems odd.

[Oscar]

Grace is on the posters. The tour is called that's My Best Friend Tour. So, like, wait, what? Like, all the promotion is them together?

[Trisha Paytas]

Really?

[Oscar]

Yeah. It's not like, you know, Brie is, like, the headliner. Like, all the marketing for the tour is their friendship. Oh, that's it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Immediately when she said that, even before I knew all that, I was like, that's actually kind of odd. Like, that's so weird. Like, obviously, anyone that I bring on tour, dancers, anyone, they're all getting paid to some capacity, even if they're, like, not on the poster. But the fact that she's, like, marketed as, like, with her Nicole, basically, that's wild. I kind of feel for her. I. Yeah. And then, like, Dave, he, like, he has his fan base, so, like, there's like, a hate train going towards Grace being like, she's gonna burn out. She's so ungrateful. Like, all this stuff like that. So it's just, like, so. Oh, God, that'd be so fun. I hate when people with, like, more power. So it's like Dave and Bri and then they, like, attacking Grace for, like, finally. Good for her for going on the ova. I don't know. Theophan's big, but then I was kind of like. I guess he's, like, a little problematic, but girlies love to go on the ovon.

[Oscar]

Don't they have a big girl audience? I think even in the podcast, didn't he have, like, a little girly shirt or something? It was like a pro girl shirt. I don't know. Maybe it's, you know, somewhere in the middle, I suppose, but.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Yeah, people really love the ova. I don't actually know anything about him. He just seemed a little. He's, like, funny. When I see him, he seems funny.

[Oscar]

I just remember him from, like, the mtv. He was, like, on the Road Rules Challenge or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

How. How did he get on there?

[Oscar]

It was way back in the day. Like, I remember. I remember him from watching the show when I was younger.

[Trisha Paytas]

So you have to be on another show to get on there. Like, real.

[Oscar]

I think it was on Road Rules. I want to say, what's Road Rules? Remember that show on mtv? Oh, really? It was, like, at the same time as Real World, but it wasn't as popular. But it was like same idea. They take like group of strangers, they put them like on an RV and then they would road trip and do challenges.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why he was on that?

[Oscar]

I think so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Damn. Oh, I want to see that.

[Oscar]

I think. But I used to watch them all when I was little.

[Trisha Paytas]

I never watched even Real World. I don't know. That's so weird cuz Real World seemed like way older than us. Like I feel like it wasn't on.

[Oscar]

When I was like it started like so long. I think it was like maybe the one of the first reality shows definitely.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like in the 90s. But even like the last ones with like Trishell and stuff. I feel like I was like I was a kid so you must have been like three.

[Oscar]

I was really on 13 or something. Yeah. Cuz I think my cousin like my one girl cousin is like around your age and I remember we would watch them together. So I remember watching when I was like way too young to be watching it. Years old. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess my sister probably would have been too at like like eight watching Real World. I didn't know that. Well, good for him. He's like. He's like Joe Rogan because Joe Rogan's like Fear Factor and then podcast.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So weird that they started on there. I wonder if they just want to be famous and they were just trying to find like an avenue.

[Oscar]

I feel like they probably didn't know. They just started there and then opportunities came after that, I'm sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

So you got to do. That's why I did so much tv. Because I was like someone has to.

[Oscar]

Discover me, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's so.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Oscar]

I saw one clip from the interview where Grace got asked about her relationship with Brianna now. And she seemed very, like, democratic about it. She was like, we're going through a rough patch, but I still love her and I think we'll be able to make up at some point.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

So I didn't know there was so much drama out of it because I'm like, oh, it sounded like she was just very, very safe. PR answer.

[Trisha Paytas]

She seems like that in general, but for some reason they get so pissed when she ever talks about anything. And it's. It's like you guys talk. They did like, three episodes talking about Grace and all this, like, crazy. Like, oh, my God, can't believe she posted the story. Like, so much shit. And like, she goes on and she's. She's really nice. She's always really nice because she ends up. The thing about Barstool, she goes, I know. Like, you know Brianna, like, it was her podcast and she sucked her neck out for me and she could get her a job at Barstool. Like, she really. So she, like, gives credit. So I don't really know why they get so pissed.

[Oscar]

They literally did make her seem to be, like, the devil. Because even, like, when Brianna was damning people, like, you don't know what she did. Like, she. He's an evil, nasty woman. I'm like, did you say that? I'm paraphrasing, but. But it was like, you don't know what she did. Like, she, like, did all of us wrong.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that is weird. That's weird.

[Oscar]

No one's seen her be that bad. So it does seem very much like dog piling on her. Like, we've seen no evidence at all of this behavior. So it's like, how can we really get a hate train going when, like, yeah, we haven't seen her act this way. Way so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, she doesn't want a new podcast coming on the network. Disgraceful. She said she got a better deal, so she's getting more than 250,000 thanks to Dave. Now we know that unwell and, you know, good for.

[Oscar]

I've always wondered. Again, I don't go here, so I have no idea why, but, like, how is BFF's every episode sponsored by Raising Canes?

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know either. I just went to Raising Keynes yesterday. I haven't even posted that tick tock yet. So you don't even know. But I was thinking that while I was eating that, because I was like, that doesn't seem like they're saying same brand. You know what I mean? Raising Canes is very, like, privately owned, right? Like, we did. We. It's like, because we did. We didn't do a sponsorship. Well, I got to work at Raising Canes one day just for funsies, and it's like a privately owned, pretty wholesome, like, family thing. So I was like, that is weird. I guess Dave just knows people. He just has those connections.

[Oscar]

I'm like, it's not like they're the number one podcast on YouTube or anything. So I'm like, wait, how is every episode sponsored by Raising Canes? I would love just to have, like, a chicken tender here. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Every episode. I went yesterday and was like, why don't you bring back Raising Canes? And I was like, you don't like it when it's, like, not fresh. He's like, I would have had raisin.

[Oscar]

Doing that a lot lately, though.

[Trisha Paytas]

First of all, doing it a lot.

[Oscar]

He.

[Trisha Paytas]

This morning, too, I had a grilled cheese, which he never likes my grilled cheese.

[Darian]

And I was like, it's not about what I like. It's about the situation.

[Oscar]

I've been hearing this.

[Darian]

Zero time to eat. I'll eat anything. I don't care.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's so not true. So I made a grilled cheese this morning with all three of my cheeses and, like, really buttery, like, white toast.

[Darian]

That'S, like, floppy telling me about how amazing this grilled cheese was so good. Like, where's mine?

[Trisha Paytas]

You never. I mean, I remember last time grilled cheese was, like, three years ago, and it was, like, falling apart. And you're like, you didn't eat any of it. So I was like, well, I'm not gonna make you grilled cheese anymore because you don't like it.

[Darian]

And he's like, it was a different situation. He's like, if there's no making a video.

[Trisha Paytas]

But then Raising Canes yesterday, I come home and we both were out for the morning because my mom was here in the morning. And then you were out for like four hours. I was out for like two and a half hours. And I was like, oh, my God, my raising canes was so good. And you're like, well, I would have eaten some. And I was like, you don't like raising canes when it's not fresh. And you're like, well, there's no food around. I'm like, you were out for four hours today. How did you.

[Darian]

He's like, I ran out to get SD cards for you got interview cards.

[Trisha Paytas]

Then you went to Ross. Then you were like, all these places. And I was just like, right.

[Darian]

I was doing the things on the list.

[Trisha Paytas]

But you get food, right? Like if you're hungry.

[Darian]

I didn't have like, it takes between half hour.

[Trisha Paytas]

You said you liked McDonald's the other night. You said you wanted a McDonald's when I post me to fries, like, oh, I would have had a cheeseburger. Go get a cheeseburger.

[Oscar]

And then the burrito, the grilled chicken burrito the other day.

[Darian]

The point of the matter is just ask me. Do you want.

[Trisha Paytas]

You never do, you know. Only this week. Have you been wanting everything?

[Darian]

Yes. By the way, I just found this on my desk here.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah, that's. That's for the Patreons. I forgot to say that at the beginning of this episode, it was kind of a weird. I. I need to promote it more for our producer tier. You guys get the Pink Christmas album, the single.

[Oscar]

Wow, that's beautiful.

[Trisha Paytas]

It is cool. I found this, like, site that makes CDs and I was like, oh, I should make a Pink Christmas. And it's fierce, right? And the CD on side. So if you're part of the producers, you're halfway through this. Patreon.com just. Trish, it is cool. I know I mentioned felt weird to talk about at the beginning with the fire. So there it is.

[Darian]

It's a collectible item.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's a collectible. It's your last day to sign up to get it because they ship out January 15th, so. Oh, no. You have two more days. January 9th. January 10th. All right. Patreon.com Trish God, now I feel bad to make you a grilled cheese. I only see, you know, the only bad comment I've ever saw. I saw one bad comment on here. And it's like, oh, my God, Trish is so mean to Moses. I was like, I made that mean.

[Oscar]

I know you're not mean.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't think so. I was just like, they.

[Darian]

They don't understand something you're you're always trying to protect me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, okay.

[Darian]

She really cares that I don't say something that I'll regret or some people will hate me for. So that's why. That's why usually if I say something, she'll either kind of cut me off, curve me down, like. Like. Like, you know, bring it down, like, move on. So it's not. It's not being rude. It's just being caring because she really doesn't want people to get upset about something I say.

[Trisha Paytas]

Even in real life, in our.

[Darian]

And I'm very blind, I'll say stuff that I just like, you know, that's French people. That's how they are, you know, so. So she's more sensitive than me. So she's so.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm just very aware. Like, the first. Our first two weeks of dating, I had to tell you, you're. You're too blunt. He's like, I'm just honest. I'm like, no, you're being rude. Because it would be like, okay, whatever. Nothing crazy, but just stuff. And I was just like, you can't say that to some. We can't say that to, like, a girl. You can't say that to people. So I will say I'm pretty good. Sometimes you educate me a lot. But I feel like sometimes I can educate you where you don't see, like, a problem with something, and then I try to. To explain it to you, and then.

[Darian]

You'Re like, okay, I understand definitely anything that comes from, like, a female perspective or a queer perspective or, you know, there's a lot of things that I just have no idea.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. So sometimes I, like, explain.

[Darian]

And also living in the public eye, like, you lived in the public eye. You know what it's like, and, you know, where things happen and I have no idea. So even just being out in public, I'm very much like, do what you want, whenever you want, wherever you want. And she's the opposite. She's like. Like, everyone is watching.

[Oscar]

Yeah. You're so used to being perceived.

[Darian]

Thing you do. Even if you ask to move a table in a restaurant, you take back a dish or you don't tip enough, whatever you do. Everyone is looking, everyone is watching. Everyone's recording. Everyone's gonna post it. And I'm the opposite. Nobody looks at me. Nobody cares. So they do. So we always. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Good at taking it. Like, listening to it too. Not much, but there's, like, certain things. I'll be like, okay, that's not.

[Oscar]

Oh, that's not.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then he'll understand again. But you help me. Me a lot too. So I'm just saying it's a balance.

[Darian]

We're a good team. We're balancing each other well.

[Trisha Paytas]

But this, the food thing is just. I'm right on this one. And I just have to be like.

[Oscar]

No, you just have to offer, though. And then he'll decline. But then I hate when people decline.

[Trisha Paytas]

I hate when people decline.

[Darian]

Yeah, because like, we're in some days, work days, we just. We're really in a crunch sometimes. Like, we do so many things from the moment we wake up until we start filming and we don't get a chance to eat.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Darian]

So it's more me. I'm like, you know what? I would actually have a bite of that because there's nothing else. I just didn't have time.

[Trisha Paytas]

Raising canes. I'll bring back. Raising canes was good, but we have a conspiracy theory of all the food right now. I don't know if you've noticed. It's real.

[Darian]

It's not even a conspiracy.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's real. It is real. Did you take out a lot?

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, so we will. We don't take out a lot, but what we do is like Cheesecake Factory. You do this place called Tsum Tsum. And then yesterday at Raising Cane's, all the portions, the boxes and the portions are getting smaller.

[Oscar]

Oh, no.

[Trisha Paytas]

I went and got the three piece combo at Raising Canes. And it's on my tick tock too. The box looks like a child's box. Like, it's so small. There was maybe like, I don't know, 12 fries in it. The bread was way smaller and the chicken was way smaller. Like, I was like starving after eating it. And usually I don't even finish the box. And I was so hungry. Cheesecake Factory, too. Like your salmon dish, the fettuccine Alfredo, Everything looks like lunch portions. And we order at night. And I'm like, why is everything.

[Darian]

The boxes to begin with are a little smaller.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Darian]

Or divided. And then the portions are much smaller. I mean, there was one dish that I got that, like, I finished it. There was not enough food in the dish.

[Trisha Paytas]

We ordered like two dinners each because they're so tiny now. And I was like, wait, how is it so small? It's so weird. But I guess the conspiracy is. Is what people can't. Like, they're just like trying to charge.

[Darian]

More inflation and probably. I mean, definitely in fast food, the minimum wage was raised.

[Oscar]

Oh, true. Yeah.

[Darian]

So they're trying to cut. They're trying like, okay, we pay them more. We take from you.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's crazy. Cuz that food is like not expensive to make. And they're like, yeah, fast food is.

[Darian]

Not cheap anymore at all.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's actually so insane. And groceries too. I went to the grocery store yesterday and I got like two dinners. I got our fried rice for yesterday and then I got our Bolognese recipes for tonight. And even that was like 100 bucks. I was like, what the heck? Like, everything is so expensive now. And is it just. Cuz why? Because. Why? Because the.

[Darian]

The value of the dollar is lower. Gets lower and lower and oh my gosh.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. I get, I get why people are annoyed with like influencers when they talk about money coming. Cause it's just like everything is so expensive. Like it's so crazy how people, especially.

[Darian]

If you're in Los Angeles, New York, the places that it's just expensive to live, rent everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my God. It's crazy. But they need to bring back those big portions at Cheesecake Factory. Cause that's why we ate there and now they're the little tiny portions. Now I get two dinners. I get fettuccine Alfredo and Chicken Littles because I'm just like, there's just not enough food. I guess they're trying to portion control us. This episode is brought to you by Shopify. Upgrade your business with Shopify, home of the number one checkout on the planet. Shop pay boosts conversions up to 50%, meaning fewer carts going abandoned and more sales going Cha Ching. So if you're into growing your business, get a commerce platform that's ready to sell wherever your customers are. Visit shopify.com to upgrade your selling today. For those of us who are not DLP ones, they're like, I guess honestly, maybe I should take it as like, this is enough. But not yesterday. I went to Raising Cane's. I went to Oxnard, which I love. Have you been to Oxnard?

[Oscar]

Yeah, not in a long time, but.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really, I love Oxnard. They had a Raising Cane's off one exit, the next exit up. I got Krispy Kremes and the Pop Tart collaboration, which was so good. You like Pop Tart?

[Oscar]

Pop Tarts. I haven't had those in forever too. Really? Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love a Pop Tart. They had a really good Pop Tart donut collection. And then I went up another exit and they had an Arby's and I had the mozzarella sticks and it was just really good. So I ended up having three lunches in total and it Was.

[Oscar]

Oh, so then I guess it was good.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. I spent $80 on my three fast food. It was. And the Arby's didn't have a drive through. I had a walk in, which was so embarrassing. It's so embarrassing to walk into an Arby's and be like, I'm here for mozzarella sticks. But no one really judges, especially up in Oxnard. Everyone there, too, is all just getting there.

[Oscar]

Everyone's for the same thing, right? Like a low speed for mozzarella stick. That's, like, the only thing on the menu. And the curly fry.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess the curly fry is good.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I just had fries at Raising Cane, so I just got the mozzarella sticks. But, yeah, it was. Those are my people, though. Everyone there was very nice. The one person was like, I. I'm not kidding when I say this. This one girl, this one woman who's sitting there waiting for her food was like, I love your rendition of Shoulda Woulda Coulda, which is like a song I put out in, like, 2018, and it's like a cover song of, like, someone else that's, like, not even that popular. I was like, that's so random. But I was like, thank you. And it was so nice at the Arby's. It was great. And I was wearing my Selena Quintanilla shirt and someone said that Yolanda is up for parole, and it pissed me off yesterday. Is that true? Do you know anything about this?

[Oscar]

I saw an article about that, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why is no one talking about this? For her own sake, she should stay in prison for sure. She is not gonna make it out here. That's crazy. How do you get to be off of parole when you literally take someone's life?

[Oscar]

She's seeking parole and she said she has a bounty on her head.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, exactly. Like, stay in, because what's a bounty?

[Darian]

Like, there's a certain amount of money that.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what I'm saying. For her own benefit, she should stay in prison.

[Darian]

If she's safe in prison, she's safe out here.

[Oscar]

You know, she's saying that she's being targeted by inmates who want justice for Selena, according to reports.

[Darian]

Suddenly, now.

[Oscar]

I know. 30 years later.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, I don't. I don't know. I. She's. She's the worst. I. She should not be out. I was so pissed. Someone told me that at Arby's actually got everyone there. They know all the tea.

[Darian]

Arby's newsletter.

[Oscar]

Yeah, you gotta go there before Hot Topics.

[Darian]

Live from Arby's.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was so pissed. I was like, oh, my God. I should actually. It was actually someone working at Arby's. Maybe they come on Hot Topics. I would like to know. But yeah, I was like, damn, it put me in such a bad mood. I was like, wow. I just understand how they get. Oh, God, it makes me mad. Anyways. More, dude. It's just a bad Newsweek, I guess. Just sadness everywhere happening.

[Oscar]

Yeah, there is a lot of bad news.

[Trisha Paytas]

Good. Nothing good. David telling how much grace makes in the midst of the fires and everything. I was like, really? That's like, not what we need to know, really.

[Oscar]

The only sweet thing has been like the Zendaya Tom Holland getting engaged. That's been like the silver lining to this week.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's cute. That's wholesome. Yeah, she looks happy. She's showing her ring off everywhere.

[Oscar]

Yeah, she did like an event, like a Q and A event event. And like, there's all these videos from like the audience where like whenever someone else is talking, she's just like staring at her ring and it's so cute. I was like, you can tell she's so excited. And I just.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love such a pretty ring too. It's like so different.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Everyone else's. I love it.

[Oscar]

They're so cute.

[Trisha Paytas]

I wonder if they're gonna have like a big wedding or small wedding.

[Oscar]

I know they're so private that, like, I imagine it'll probably be like very small. But it'll be 20, 26. Will be interesting because they have two movies back to back, so they'll have to do press together.

[Trisha Paytas]

So maybe they'll be married as a couple by then. What movies? Spider Man.

[Oscar]

And they have an Oppenheimer, a Christopher Nolan movie.

[Trisha Paytas]

The sequel.

[Oscar]

You know the book the Odyssey.

[Trisha Paytas]

No. Well, it sounds familiar. It's about a boat.

[Oscar]

I think it's like a Greek. I think it's about Greek mythology. I never had to read it. It's something that, like in schools. My school never made me read it. But it's like one of those. Yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is it about Greek gods?

[Oscar]

I think. Yeah, I think so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like Odysseus?

[Oscar]

I kind of think so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I really liked Odysseus.

[Oscar]

That sounds like one that's in there. Yeah.

[Darian]

He just said ECS at the end of anything.

[Trisha Paytas]

I just know.

[Oscar]

God, we had a.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like an era of school of learning about Greek mythology.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I remember thinking, like, is this real or why are we learning about this? You know what I mean?

[Oscar]

I like learning about it. I remember it was sixth grade when I learned about Greek mythology. Yeah. Because I like the divas of it all. My favorite was Artemis because I like, you know, animals. And she was like the goddess of, like, animals and hunters or whatever. And she. She like, all the photos of her, she like. Or the art of her, she like, looked fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is she like half horse?

[Oscar]

No, she was just like, pretty blonde.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, really? Artemis. Oh, that's cute.

[Oscar]

And I like that Thena, obviously, because she was like, slay diva the house.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, what did she do?

[Oscar]

She's a goddess of war. So, you know, she was like strong, like Wonder Woman kind of vibes, I guess. Like strong, fierce girl.

[Trisha Paytas]

What did she do, though?

[Oscar]

Be strong and fierce, I guess. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did she start a war? End of war?

[Oscar]

I actually have no idea now that I think about it. But I remember, like, the art of her. She had like a shield and a sword. It was like, fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

What's the one? Pandora's box.

[Oscar]

That's a drag queen.

[Trisha Paytas]

What is it that. What did it come from? It has to come from Greek.

[Oscar]

Are you sure? But it's like, don't open Pandora's box.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. What do. What happened?

[Darian]

If you opened it, you unleash kind of like what happened now, you know, like with David's vlog, he opened Pandora box and all hell came loose. But.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Darian]

Odyssey is an epic poem that tells the story of Odysseus, a Greek hero who struggles to return after the Trojan War. Oh, so it's based on a poem about.

[Trisha Paytas]

So Greek mythology is just mythology. It's not real.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So why are we learning about them?

[Oscar]

That's a good question.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's so weird history.

[Darian]

Because people believe there's realness to it as far as when you study the human nature and.

[Trisha Paytas]

But they're not. Like, Hercules is not a real person.

[Darian]

Not in our realm of life. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So is it before the world existed or is it like before Christ or what?

[Darian]

It's not so much timeline, it's more outside of our time. And Pandora box is a gift from Zeus to Pandora, the first woman. And the box contained all the world's evils.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then who opened it? Adam.

[Oscar]

Someone dastardly.

[Darian]

It sounds like she probably.

[Oscar]

Oh, she was curious. I can't really blame her. I'd be a little curious in mythology.

[Darian]

I mean, it is misogynistic, but in mythology, a lot of evils are attached to the woman.

[Oscar]

Well, she was set up.

[Darian]

Like Eve.

[Trisha Paytas]

She was set up.

[Darian]

But that's the thing. Same with Adam. He kind of set up Eve because.

[Trisha Paytas]

She was Hungry for that apple.

[Oscar]

Yeah. I'm going to defend all those. They're going to be my new clients. Like Rachel Zler, Pandora, the divas.

[Darian]

Adam, where you got the. He snitched on her. He's like, she gave it to me. Instead of being a man first, Eve took the apple from the snake, and then she gave it to Adam, and then Adam ate it. And when God asked him, what do you do, too? He's like, oh, she did it. You know, instead of being a man and be like, yeah, well, you ate it.

[Oscar]

Take accountability.

[Trisha Paytas]

Take accountability. That's the theme of today's episode.

[Oscar]

That is a theme.

[Trisha Paytas]

Take accountability. Interesting. Why do you know? Yeah, I like it. Did you ever see Percy Jackson?

[Oscar]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Moses watching the other day by himself. When I came home, I was like.

[Oscar]

Oh, the new one or the. Oh, okay. I haven't seen the new one. I remember seeing the first, like, movie.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is it a cartoon, the first one or real life?

[Oscar]

It's real life. Logan Lerman. And I'm sure you don't know him. No.

[Trisha Paytas]

What was he.

[Oscar]

He's cute. Yeah. At the time he was younger, but now he's, like, in his 30s. But they were. He was, like, the first white boy of the month. You know, that was, like, the thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

On Twitter, like in the 90s?

[Oscar]

No, like, a couple years ago.

[Darian]

Like, on Twitter.

[Oscar]

You know, on Twitter, there's, like, the white boy of the month. No, everyone gets behind a white boy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, he was the first ever.

[Oscar]

He was, like, the original white boy of the month. Yeah. But he's actually been dean because he's, like, the first. And he's, like, very unproblematic and he's aging well. He's just mind his business. He's kind of the white boy of the century now.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's been deemed.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Over anybody? Like Tom Holland, anybody?

[Oscar]

Yeah, the only one that comes close is Dylan O'Brien. You know him?

[Trisha Paytas]

No. Sounds familiar.

[Oscar]

I'm trying to think if he's been in something that you would know.

[Trisha Paytas]

What, What? What, do you know him from?

[Oscar]

Teen Wolf on mtv Runner. He was in that SNL movie, Saturday Night.

[Trisha Paytas]

I did watch that. Who? Yes.

[Oscar]

He was the one that had short shorts on. Wanted to see it. Chevy Chase, maybe. He had short shorts and, I think big sunglasses or, like, tinted glasses.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was excited for it. I watched it by myself and I was like, that's kind of boring. I ended it, like, there's just not much happening. It just was like, all in real time. Like, right before the first show, I was like, there should have been, like, more. It was cool. Cause I was there on Studio 8H.

[Oscar]

You were part of it now, who played you?

[Trisha Paytas]

Definitely the next one. I'll be there. I would tell Moses, too. Cause he'd pop in. He was, like, cooking, and he'd pop in, like, babe, I was there. I was by the wardrobe. I watched it after that, too, because I was like, let me watch this. It was a little bit of a flop, but no one talked about it. Like, I didn't even know it was out. I think. I think I asked Bowen. I was like, did that movie ever come out? And he's like, yeah, it's been out. I was like, never. No one ever talked about it or clipped it or anything. So I guess no one cared.

[Oscar]

Yeah, it didn't make a lot of noise. No award show, but. No, no.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, maybe the Oscars. Those nominations are. Not yet, no.

[Oscar]

But I think at this point, it's kind of. Everyone kind of knows.

[Trisha Paytas]

Surprises. The men of the award show season have been flopping. Like, I don't remember any of the men that won any of the awards. Mostly tea, you know? Yeah, like you were telling me, like, Colin Farrell or something. For the Penguin.

[Oscar]

Penguin. Yeah. I don't even remember, honestly.

[Trisha Paytas]

Blader and Brody, because.

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah. For the Brutalist.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I was like, ew, I don't like him. And then I was like, he had a phase. And I was like, oh, yeah.

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I do like him, actually.

[Darian]

I actually remember her faces.

[Trisha Paytas]

You do remember? I sent him a dm, but I don't think it's his real Instagram. There was no blue check mark. Oh, I just sent a fake one. What if he responded? I would love if a fake Adam Brody. Adrian Brody.

[Oscar]

Adrian Brody.

[Trisha Paytas]

You mentioned Adam Brody.

[Oscar]

I like Adam Brody.

[Trisha Paytas]

Which one is he from?

[Oscar]

He's from the OC he's in that Netflix show Nobody Wants this with Kristen Bell. It was really popular last year.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's a good title.

[Oscar]

I actually did have a Adam Brody hot topic that I'm interested. I do love him. I love Leighton Meester Moore, his wife. But I do. I like them together because they're cute. Yeah. And he's like, the most popular millennial boy character from, like, a show. And she's the most popular millennial girl.

[Trisha Paytas]

Character, I would argue, but I can't.

[Oscar]

Think of anyone more iconic than Blair Walter.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think Kelly Kapowski from say by the Bell is the millennial girl.

[Oscar]

I feel like she's a little older.

[Trisha Paytas]

They're mille. Yeah. I think you're the end of the millennial. I think they're like the millennial.

[Oscar]

Really?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Okay. The 2000. She's the early. The most iconic early 2000.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. I can't. I don't know them, so I don't know, but maybe. Let me think about it.

[Oscar]

I will die on this. So, like, Blair Waldorf is just like a foundation block for any girly and gay. Like, that's just how it is.

[Trisha Paytas]

You should Google like the most iconic 2000s TV characters and see that she's on Lizzie McGuire.

[Oscar]

Serena Vander Woodson. Yeah. Blair Waldorf, Marissa Cooper, Laura Cooper from the OC Raven from. That's where Raven.

[Trisha Paytas]

Raven and Lizzie for sure.

[Oscar]

So everyone loves Adam Brody and Leighton Meester and they've been married for over 10 years and they got asked like, what is the secret to their marriage? And I'm interested to get your guys take on this because they said the secret is having separate bathrooms.

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel like someone else has said this before. I feel like this is.

[Oscar]

I feel like it's probably a common thing. Right? Do you agree with it?

[Trisha Paytas]

Separate bathroom.

[Oscar]

They said they have one that's secret or separate toilets, for sure. And then there's one that's like closer to like the epicenter where like the kids are and stuff. And then there's one that. That's more private.

[Trisha Paytas]

They have kids?

[Oscar]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

How many kids they have?

[Oscar]

I think they have three.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. They've been so low key. Like, I didn't know they were a couple.

[Oscar]

Yeah, yeah, they are super, super low key. Super private. They're not really on social media either.

[Trisha Paytas]

So that's probably the secret to their marriage.

[Oscar]

Honestly, no social media, no Dancing with the Stars and different toilets.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. That is so true, actually. That is so real. Definitely no Dancing with the Stars for couples. I saw Taylor Lautner and his wife Taylor Lautner being like, we should go dancing with the stars. Like, don't, don't. There's not enough gay people on there. Because it's like, no, I'd only go with Ezra, who's so down to come on. But he's on tour right now, so he'll come in April. But I would say it is hard to say because we have had separate bathrooms since we've started dating. And. Yeah, I guess if you had to share. Yeah, especially like when we're at hotels. Oh, my God, it's just the worst. It's the absolute worst. You have to do, like the courtesy flush. You have to do the sprays. You have to do all that stuff. Like that. So I guess, yeah. I like being in there when we're, like, washing our faces and brushing our teeth together. But toy toilets, for sure. I know Meghan Trainer likes to sit next to her husband when they go to the bathroom. They have toilets that they can, like, hold hands on. Oh, and they go to the bathroom together. No, that's crazy. I don't know if I could, like, sit next. I liked. You know what? I truly. As much as I hate, like, poop, I actually don't mind, like, if it's Moses. Like, I'd like to be up there. Like, I want to come up and, like, hang out there. You know what I mean? Like, I think that's, like, fun. But I. I don't know. I guess, like, in general, it's better to have separate. Separate ones. Moses. Bathroom upstairs doesn't have a door, so I always just want to, like, go. Every time I, like, come up there to, like. One time I came up there to give you something, and you're like, I'm in the bathroom. I'm like, it's fine. Like, I know what you look like. I don't mind it.

[Darian]

Something about sitting on the toilet. That's very vulnerable.

[Trisha Paytas]

Vulnerable.

[Darian]

I want you to see me in my best, not sitting on the toilet.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why is that not your best? That's natural.

[Darian]

It's a. It's a feeling. It's not real. You know what I mean? Like. Like, you love me. You're think. There's nothing about it. I love you. I think seeing you on the toilet, there's nothing about it. But I feel.

[Trisha Paytas]

I do hate feeling.

[Darian]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, I use. We have to get one of our bathrooms fixed. So I'm using the toilet in the girls's room, and so I go in there. So sometimes he'll come in the morning and he'll, like, change like Elvis. Or I'm like, get out. Because I'm like, the bathroom's right there. I don't like it, but I turn all the, like, fans on and stuff, you know, I turn everything on TikTok. Like, I don't like to hear any pee or anything. Do you guys have separate bathrooms?

[Oscar]

No. We have one bathroom. It's small. One bathroom, one closet for two gay boys is. It's a lot. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Oscar]

How is it?

[Trisha Paytas]

But do you feel it or not really?

[Oscar]

Oh, no, I feel it. Yeah. Especially I'm pretty. Like, I think I just. I have a lot going on, so I'm very on, like, a strict, like, time schedule. So I'm like, strictly Business. Like, if I have to take a shower, I'm like, okay, I'm in. I'm not there to chill out. Like, I'm there to get stuff done and get out.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Darian is in there for vibes. Like, he has music playing. He has the music. He's in there for a long time. If he has to pluck his eyebrows, it's like another 20 minutes. If he has to shave, it's like another 45 minutes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is he shaving in the shower?

[Oscar]

He shaves before. Like, it's a whole process for him. He has a big, like a long skincare routine.

[Darian]

You want to say before you think.

[Trisha Paytas]

This double in the sink, though. I'm always like, oh, I have a lot.

[Oscar]

Yeah. And then he has a lot of products. We have a small, like, you know, counter. Like, it's pretty much just the same sink and I'm like, very ocd. So when I get in there and there's like, the floor is wet because it's like so steamy because he's in there for so long.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, you going after him?

[Oscar]

If I have to use the bathroom after him? Yeah. Like, I have socks on and my socks get wet because he just always gets everything wet. There's products everywhere. I'm like, oh, my God, the vibes are crazy. After he's in the shower, usually I like, will get my stuff. Like if we have to shower at the same time at night, like, I will get in there first, first brush my teeth, retainer in, I go to sleep.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then you never share a shower moment.

[Oscar]

No, no, no. The vibe, it's just very different vibes. Because he's also, I don't know how, like, technically, I guess between the two of us, he's a more like normal, well adjusted one. But at night, like, he'll play like Kim Petras, Nicki Minaj in the shower and it's like 10pm and then he's like, I can't sleep. And I'm like, well, you're listening to like club bangers at 10pm before bed.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're in bed sleep.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Yes. And I'm playing like a little video, trying to go to sleep and it's like.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is wild. You guys are very opposite. Yes. I don't know, it would probably drive me nuts. I'm not gonna lie. If you're like blasting like Nicki Minaj At 10pm in the shower, I'll be like, oh, my God, let's go to bed. It's wild.

[Darian]

If you guys manage to do this, then you can do anything. You know, in the future you'll have two bathrooms and it'll be so happy.

[Oscar]

That'll be a beautiful time. I'm so excited.

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel like that's gonna happen soon. You're gonna like move, move in the near year.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I'm very much looking forward to that. Even the closet stuff, it really isn't too bad. But it's like it's a small closet. We only have one closet in the apartment. It's small. Our first apartment we had a walk in closet which was so nice.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh yeah.

[Oscar]

But this one's a small one and it's like just like a sliding door. Yeah. And everything's like mixed in. He wears a lot of my stuff, so I guess for him it's fine. But for me it's like there's a lot going on in there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I would say we also, we have two separate closets, but I take over Moses closet and my stuff is all in there. He's like, you, I don't have any room for my stuff because you're stuff is in here. I'm like, I don't have room.

[Darian]

I was threaten her. I'm like, okay, I'm going to get all your stuff out of my closet.

[Trisha Paytas]

His closet is, I mean it's a good size closet, but my closet is cute. Moses built me a custom closet. It's cute. But the problem is is there's not enough clothing. You have more clothing racks in your closet than I do.

[Darian]

Of course. Cuz yours is a display like the luxury store, you know, the jewelry, the birthday for me.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I move over to.

[Darian]

That's why we have a whole other room that just racks posh babe.

[Trisha Paytas]

Every day I gave my mom, mom, I don't know, 30 bags of clothes. I'm like trying to get rid of them so much. My goal for this year is to be minimalistic with clothing, obviously the stuff for the podcast. But everything else I'm like. Because in my day to day life, I wear black leggings and a sweatshirt every day in my life. You know what I mean? I don't really like wear that many clothes, so I don't know why I have so many. I never have anything to wear.

[Darian]

Part of it. Yeah, that's what I mean. Like at least if you had stuff to choose from.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I have nothing to choose from. That's why I wore this hoodie today. I was like, I'm gonna just wear just Trish merch only. That's all I have.

[Darian]

Did you mention Adam Brody Earlier?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's what we're talking about.

[Darian]

His house burned.

[Oscar]

Why?

[Darian]

I was just checking updates. Moon Shadows burned?

[Trisha Paytas]

No. What?

[Darian]

Yeah, like everything to the ground. All those homes on the coastline. No, where we do. We did the photo shoot on the beach.

[Trisha Paytas]

No. What? How did it get over here?

[Darian]

That's what I'm saying. Last night when we went to sleep, I was like glued to it because I knew like the, the, the devastation. But you couldn't see it cuz it was so dark. Now you can actually start seeing cuz.

[Trisha Paytas]

All your friends are in Malibu. Moses. Like a ton of people were in Malibu.

[Darian]

Yeah, I think, I think they might be impacted because last night it didn't reach them. But we couldn't see.

[Oscar]

Yeah, cuz it was blowing the opposite way at first. But the winds were just every direction overnight. So I think it spread like north too. Towards Malibu.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my God, that is so. Wow, that's so scary. We're just at Moon Shadows. Wow, that's crazy. Even on Sunset. Sunset Boulevard. Did you see that by the. Yes, that was going over there. Which is like crazy because Hollywood is so inland.

[Darian]

Like last night I saw an image of it burning and I saw just a little sign. I was like it looks like the sign of the real in but I'm not sure. Like yeah, the whole corner might, might be gone.

[Oscar]

Yeah, the real end I saw was completely.

[Darian]

Oh yeah, you did see it.

[Oscar]

I saw a video this morning.

[Darian]

It's one of our favorite spots.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my God, that's like our favorite, favorite spot. We like never even talk about it because I don't want people to like go there. But I'm like oh my God, that's like date.

[Darian]

No, that's cuz I worked a lot in Malibu so like I would take a lunch date, we would meet.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh yeah, I went like every week during the Panda. Oh my God. That's actually so sad. Oh my God, that's crazy.

[Darian]

And these businesses have been there forever.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that's so sad. Oh my God, that's like so sad. Because it's like even like people are like oh, they have money or insurance or whatever. It's like still sad. Like that's your.

[Darian]

But there's no. That's the other thing. There's no insurance. Cuz just four months ago, up to a month ago, insurance companies have been canceling people people's policies. So a lot of people were trying to figure out their policies while this is happening. So there's a lot of people that have no fire insurance and lost their Homes, we always, like, fight to keep our insurance because they always try to take it away.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. It's so scary and it's wild. Our family's gone through that too. Like, they couldn't find, like, people to insure their houses. Like, it's so crazy sad. Oh, my God, that's so sad.

[Oscar]

It's very sad. Oh, well, I guess. Yeah. One disaster to the next. Austin Butler and Kyo Gerber breaking up.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. My mom texted me this yesterday. I was like, okay, like, what do I even say to that? That's so funny. She, like, texted me that, like, a news story. I was like, this is very odd. Like, what?

[Oscar]

It was kind of shocking to me. I mean, this was why. I think this is before the fires really took off too. I saw the time. I was like, oh, my God. It's kind of big, but. And then other big stuff obviously happened. But is it big?

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel like she's so young. Like, I was like, well, of course.

[Oscar]

I guess three years together, it's a long time. And they're like, so. They're very cute together. Very private.

[Trisha Paytas]

Austin Butler gives me Andrew Garfield vibes. In the sense, I think he's gonna be 41 and single.

[Oscar]

You think?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, because in the sense of, like, they're just. They're probably just playboys. And, like, I don't really like, but.

[Oscar]

He'S been in long term. Like, we're with Vanessa for a long time. 3 years with Kaia Gerber.

[Trisha Paytas]

But this was before he became Elvis and Dune and all these, like, American Psycho. He's having his moment. I feel like when people have their moment is when they're like, okay, time to play the field. We see that with, like, Jeremy Allen White, Ethan Slater, Barry Keoghan. Because I feel like once they became famous and all these girls thought they were hot, they're like, bye. Because they were all like, long terms. And then they were like, time to play the field. Which, like, it's fine. Maybe you should. Because maybe you shouldn't be in a relationship. You're gonna cheat. But if you're in the relationship already.

[Oscar]

Maybe then, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

But he's probably like. And Kya is like. I mean, she's like the ultimate, like, trophy. Because not only is she, like, beautiful, but she's also talented.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Comes from money and all this stuff like that. So it's kind of like a win. But he probably, you know, some guys are just never like, Zac Efron gives me those vibes too, where I feel like he just. Cause every Person I've talked to to, like, has a dating Zac Efron story, like, every gorgeous girl. So I think he just likes to date everybody. And I think there's nothing wrong with that as I guess as long as you're single.

[Oscar]

I mean, I wouldn't know, but maybe when you have too many options, like, it's like, well, how do I know? Because, like, how will I know for sure? Because there's so many fish in the.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sea, like, and they all want you.

[Oscar]

And they all want you. Yeah. They're all chomping at the bit.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm not even. Zach offroaded for a long time I waited because I was like, wait, but what if something better comes along? What if, like, Brad Pitt come, like, you know, so I can't even imagine me at the level where you could actually have anybody you wanted. And yeah, it's just especially Ryan.

[Oscar]

Right. Because I think it's obviously you set your location, but I don't think there's like a. A mileage. You can set it to be small, but you can also. I think a lot of the times it's like a big.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Area international. Like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

So when you have the whole world at your fingertips, like, every girl in the world, like, damn, I don't still.

[Trisha Paytas]

Want to give our angel Garfields on Raya because, yes, every girl at his fingertips without Raya. You know what I mean? I just feel like riot is in a sense already. Raya just feels icky to me because everyone's on there because they're famous and it's like, oh, that's gross already. Like, yeah, another famous person today. I don't know. It's a little ick to me. But yeah, I think Zac Efron, Andrew Garfield, and Austin Butler is going to be in that category too. And George Clooney was like that till he was 50.

[Darian]

Celebrities that are married to their career, like, their priority is themselves and the career and the legacy and what they do more than. So they see a relationship as a barrier or something that interferes with their career.

[Trisha Paytas]

For me, yeah, like the Vanessa Hutchins. He was with her 10 years, and then all of a sudden you do Elvis. And I can buy. Everyone's so mad at not everyone, but, like, people with Hugh Jackman. I can't believe he's dating, like, so soon, but it's been like a year since the divorce. But I think he was married, like 30 years, so it does feel a little like jaunting all of a sudden to see him with someone new. You're like, damn, you're with that wife for, like, 30 years.

[Oscar]

I mean, I feel like there's been rumors that they've been dating for a long time, so obviously they went public. But behind the scenes, I'm sure they've been together for. Yeah, at least since I heard last summer.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Well, they did the Music man in, like, 2022 on Broadway, so that's where they met, too. So I'm assuming. Yeah, it probably started there. But then to see them out, it is. It is like, oh, God. It is kind of sad, though. I feel like when you're like, the wife and you have to see it, it's kind of like, whatever. It's like, oh, man, it has to hurt a little bit. Especially because you can't really get them back. You know what I mean?

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. People have to move on. But what if the one person doesn't want to move on? Like, what if mo's like, okay, I want a divorce. I want to date some foster. But it's like, I don't want that. Do I have to sign? Like, you know what I mean? Like, do you have to divorce?

[Oscar]

So I don't think you can hold them hostage, really.

[Trisha Paytas]

What if you don't want it? I don't want this divorce. I always thought about that. I was like, what if someone doesn't want out?

[Oscar]

I think at some point they could probably, like, sue or something. Right. For you to sign, I think. Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

And sue someone for not divorcing.

[Oscar]

Well, it's like if you're getting broken up with, like, and you just say no work sometimes.

[Trisha Paytas]

But no, but I would say no. I would 100% say no. I was like, that's what.

[Darian]

Now it's like the. It's like, opposite of a proposal. Do you want to get divorced? Like, no, no, no.

[Oscar]

Will you divorce things?

[Trisha Paytas]

But also that. That's what I think about, too. Okay, okay. We get divorced, but then it's like, okay, we have to leave the house. No, you have to leave the house. Like, who. What if. Can you kick someone out of the house? You can't.

[Oscar]

I think it is common to go to court over. Right. Over assets and stuff.

[Trisha Paytas]

So do you just stay in the same house until you go to court?

[Darian]

Aren't there movies about that where they, like, stuck together the same?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think the breakup with Jennifer Aniston.

[Oscar]

Daniel Prada, Joey Graceffa, living together. Post breakfast up.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, did they?

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Which is crazy because, like, one of them could have afforded to move out. So why did they stay together? They Both love that house.

[Oscar]

I think it was also in the pandemic, so maybe that has something to do with it. But, yeah, they're living together a while.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's why I like this house. I thought about that. I was like, well, if we ever break up, I'm like, you could stay down here. We don't have to see each other. Yeah, that would be your place. Because that is wild to think about. Because I wouldn't want to leave. I wouldn't want to leave the house.

[Oscar]

Another random couple news, though, was there was a rumor that at a Golden Globes after party already, Kate Beckinsale and Matt Rye for making out.

[Trisha Paytas]

And weren't they already a couple?

[Oscar]

Yeah, which I didn't know because Kate Beckinsale released a statement saying that she was not making out with Matt Rye for the Golden Globes, which is so. Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's definitely not true.

[Oscar]

She said, and that we are just friendly exes. And I was like, wait, you dated? And I guess 2018.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess I kind of remember that when the Matt Rife thing was big, everyone was talking about how he dated Kate back in town.

[Oscar]

That is crazy to me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, he. And he's really not to be whatever. But he really did something to his face. Like, he looks crazy. Like, right? What happened to him? Maybe he had something with his jaw, like Zac Efron. Maybe he broke it or something. But something looks crazy.

[Oscar]

Wait, I need to see. I haven't, like, seen him scary.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was like, what? That's so.

[Oscar]

Look. Oh, you're right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, kind of scary. I don't know what happened. He was, like, kind of cute when he was doing those little, like, roasts or whatever. But. But that was kind of scary.

[Oscar]

He almost looks like a claymation phase or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's exactly it. I wonder what he did. Probably some work. Some guys can get addicted to plastic surgery, too.

[Oscar]

I know he looks different.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm so sick of people being like, no, I. I'm just. I just age. I just mature. It's like, no. Well, you definitely did something.

[Oscar]

Yeah. On getting images, you could sort by newest and oldest. And, like, his oldest one, like, that's not the same crazy. Because I remember when, like, he was going through it and then, like, remember that plastic surgeon made a TikTok and he was like, I never got anything done.

[Trisha Paytas]

And it's like, yeah, that is wild.

[Oscar]

Yeah. I mean, he was cute. Like, he. But obviously he did something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. More than just his teeth because his.

[Oscar]

Cheeks are a lot bigger now.

[Trisha Paytas]

There's a big phenomenon with Men is getting like their faces redone, like restructured. I think John, I always say his name wrong. John Mulaney. He. I think he got his chin, his jaw done. Done. I think it's a whole thing people.

[Oscar]

Are doing and everyone goes to Turkey to get it done. I guess. I guess it's a lot cheaper.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you recover over there then too? It's a long trip.

[Darian]

Do the hair plugs there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really?

[Darian]

In Turkey I saw a tick tock of somebody who was just sitting in a cafe and all the men in the cafe had like really the bandages and like everyone were there for hair.

[Trisha Paytas]

And someone recorded it. Okay Turg people.

[Darian]

Didn't Mike go there?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh yeah, Mike Maylock went there. This looks good. I think.

[Oscar]

I guess, I guess it must be a lot cheaper if it's cheaper to go all the way over there. Stay like stay there and get it done there. Stay there. Recover versus right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Just doing it here. Maybe that's why people go over there.

[Oscar]

I guess.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think Columbia too. I think they can take out way more fat and it's like way less money. So it's like is cheaper just to do like a coach economy and then stay.

[Oscar]

I have a friend whose mom goes to the craziest places to get plastic surgery done. Yeah, she always has crazy stories every time she goes.

[Trisha Paytas]

How many times does she go?

[Oscar]

She goes very frequently. Yeah, she's kind of a diva. She's single. Well, she got. She's like divorced single and she is just. And her kids are grown and stuff so she travels. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Let's just do some surgeries. Surgery scared me. I. I'm not like anti plus surgery and I like would love the idea. Like I definitely need to get my boobs done. It's been overtime. But I just. I'm scared. I'm so scared of surgeries.

[Oscar]

Like I know and it's crazy cuz you were so nonchalant about it before. But.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, no, I think cuz I like didn't care if I lived or died.

[Oscar]

Before so I was like whatever.

[Trisha Paytas]

But now it's like, I mean you really do put your life at risk and like I guess you do that any day. Like going behind a wheel but you have to like drive. But like surgeries are just. And then the complications after. I mean it's such a whole. I don't know. People do them so easily and then you hear such horror stories. And again I probably get plastered at some point because I need to get my boobs done and stuff. But it is such a scary thing. People Just do it. So, like, chins and even, like, gorgeous people, they get their stuff done all the time. I was like, I. I'm very, like, my natural era in the sense that I do like, people who, like, are more natural these days. But again, if you like plast surgery, it's for you. But some people just look so different. There was a girl, 90, fiance, I think her name's like, she was on a million Millionaire Matchmaker, like, I don't know, 15 years ago. And she looks so unrecognizable. And I was like, wait, why did she get so much work done? Because she's, like, pretty on the show, but she was, like, so gorgeous. When you're. I guess when you're older, you just, like, age and you think you need it again. Yeah, I would like a facelift one day, but that also scares me. Everything kind of scares me. Like, I like the idea because people, like, Christian looks so good. And I was like, okay, she's definitely had facelifts.

[Oscar]

But I'm not afraid of plastic surgery. I'm more afraid of, like, the recovery. Because I guess when you're like, you're asleep, I'm like, I'd be asleep, so I wouldn't know. But then you wake up after, you have to, like, deal with it. Then I'm like, that's what scares me.

[Trisha Paytas]

And it does give you, like, anxiety because, like, especially when you wake up with, like, boobs, it's just like this, like, it feels like cement in your chest and you're just like. Like, it's just like, what did I do? What's in there? And it is foreign objects in your body. And it's just, like, so much drains and just. Yeah, it's the complications afterwards that are scary.

[Oscar]

Yeah. I was like, I'd want, like, a nose job or something, but I would be afraid.

[Trisha Paytas]

What would you get?

[Oscar]

I'd want it more, like, I feel like it's more bulbous here, and I would want it to be, like, more.

[Trisha Paytas]

Narrow, but you get it pointy. Like Michael Jackson.

[Oscar]

Super pointy. Just, like, a little.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because, like, I feel like, nose jobs. You can. And, like, again, I love. I want to know job too. That's the scariest to me because they, like, literally break your nose.

[Oscar]

I think this is just. Mine wouldn't be. It's like cartilage so they wouldn't have to break. I don't know how they do it. But now the good thing is, like, people are really good at doing it subtle because even, like, celebrities and stuff too, they get, like, the lifts and stuff now are so, like, delicate, where it makes a difference, but it. You can't really tell, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Like a Lindsay Lohan. Now, like, obviously she got, like, some corrective stuff done, but she looks, like, natural, and it's so. It's, like, subtle enough, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Would you actually get something done?

[Oscar]

I would want to, but again, I'm too afraid of, like, the recovery, especially no stuff. Because I hate when you have a stuffy nose and you can't breathe. So I'm like, the thought of having that for, like, weeks, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Or like, what if you didn't like it? You know what I mean? What if you're like, oh, my old one. Because I do that even when she, like, lip filler. I'm like, mine doesn't go down. I try to dissolve it. And it's like sometimes I look at my lips before, I'm like, I wish it was just, like, a little less. You know what I mean? And it's like, I kind of do ruin your face a little bit. And boobs, too. You have to keep those up forever. And you're just like, damn.

[Oscar]

But I remember asking you back in, like, 2019, at some point, I do like the body lift, you know? Like, I think Josh Peck did it like, Shane did it. Wait, what's the body like when you just lose weight?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, and they. What do they do?

[Oscar]

They just tighten the body. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Snatch it.

[Oscar]

Yeah. And, like, Shane had just gotten it done, and I was like. You were like, oh, you're so skinny now. I was like, I know I don't like a body lift, but I'm scared. And you were like, no, she just did it. You'll definitely be fine.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God, that's wild.

[Oscar]

I'm shame today. It was so easy. Definitely be fine.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is it called? I didn't know it was called the body lift. I know. I think he talks about. I think he talks about, like, having.

[Oscar]

A YouTube video on it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah. And then I'm like, I love the idea. We need to lose the weight first, right?

[Oscar]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you have extra skin? Me? I'm like, I want that done without. Even before I get my boobs done, I have to, like, take that robot because I'm just like, I need to. You have to lose weight first. But did you. Did you have extra skin?

[Oscar]

Yes, because I've been literally overweight since I was a kid, so then I was so scared, skinny, and then now not as much, but if I lost weight again, like, I would still Need a, like a body lift at some.

[Trisha Paytas]

Point, you know, I always wanted that. Even like with nicocado, like where does the skin go?

[Oscar]

It's just there because you couldn't tell.

[Trisha Paytas]

You wouldn't be able to tell that you have like loose skin.

[Oscar]

I don't think so. Like, if I was shirtless probably it's not terrible now because I'm like more built I guess. But when I was super skinny it was.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think that is the sad thing too. Like when people lose weight and then all of a sudden you have to get those surgeries and you're like these flowers on your body.

[Oscar]

That's why I never felt skinny. Even though like I was technically skinny. Like. Yeah, I didn't. It's not like I had like a six pack or anything because I didn't.

[Trisha Paytas]

Even think about that. Cuz like Finita is really open about her weight loss surgery. She had the gastric and like. Yeah, I didn't even think about that. She said she was like £300 and now she's like so thin. She's like maybe, probably like 120. It's like, where does all the skin go?

[Oscar]

Yeah, a lot of the time you have to do the body lift or whatever.

[Trisha Paytas]

I didn't think about that part.

[Oscar]

Yeah, that's the downside of.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

I mean it depends to too like some people if you lose it slow enough. But also I literally was just overweight since I was like maybe like six or something. Right. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's like me with like pregnancy. Like I know every time like I was like pregnant, I never had stretch marks. And everyone's like, how do you have not stretch marks? I'm like, I think my body just gone up and down so much.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Because when you're growing too and developing and you're that big already.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. It's just mine always just stretched. I think my skin was always stretchy because surprisingly I don't have like stretch marks all anywhere on my body. Which is like I guess good. But it's also just because like my body's just up and down as much. As a kid I was just up and down. I'd like starve myself and then I'd eat and then it's like up and down and Nothing wrong with stretch marks. So I kind of, I always like, especially on like pregnant bodies. I thought they looked cool, you know, they look kind of like kind of a little bit Greek mythology. Like. Yeah, tigress.

[Oscar]

I liked it very Moses. It reminded me of waves of like the ocean.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah. It is pretty, like iridescent. I don't mind them. I think I maybe have a couple on my hips maybe. I don't know, me wanting stretch. It is kind of cute, I think. But maybe if I had them, maybe I'd feel different about it. I don't know. I like. It's like my scars on my boobs or anywhere. I'm like, that's kind of cute. My C section scar. I'm like, I have a lot of scars on me. So.

[Oscar]

Scott. And you're beautiful.

[Trisha Paytas]

What is that? You always sing that song.

[Oscar]

The. It's a song by Alessia Cara. You never heard that song? No.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're scarred and you're beautiful.

[Oscar]

Scar and you're beautiful.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is it a drag queen Alicia car?

[Oscar]

No, it's a girl.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. I love it. I'm just a girl. It's good. I love that song. What? What, what is she singing about people.

[Oscar]

That like, what, like self harm and stuff. But like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think it kind of was symbolic of all the other. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Botch. Plastic surgery. You're scar. You're beautiful.

[Oscar]

Beautiful. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

You were like crazy skinny though. That was like a different level. That was like.

[Oscar]

It really is weird. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And you just didn't do anything. You just ate less. That's it. You didn't do anything else crazy?

[Oscar]

Nothing crazy. I mean, ate less. Less. I worked out more. But also I just started Adderall and that like really helped your appetite. Kicks your metabolism.

[Trisha Paytas]

Crazy.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Interesting.

[Oscar]

Yeah. So that was a big part of it too. And also just I was just on a revenge tour, you know, Like, I.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really want to, like, here's my Jacob Elordi. Yeah, I love that.

[Oscar]

But it's something though, cuz like, you know, memories now on Instagram, like, it'll show you hate those. Me too. Every time I look at it, I'm like, whoa, this is crazy. It's all cringe. I'm someone who thinks I'm cringe like a day. Like anything I do. Like, oh let alone a year, two years, three years. I'm like, damn.

[Trisha Paytas]

But no, I didn't see a clip of this podcast. I mean, why don't you say that?

[Oscar]

So cringey. But I remember, like, I just look teeny tiny. I remember being able to buy kids clothes at Target. Is not that wild.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't think I've ever had that flex. Do you ever show Darian? Because I would show Moses like how skinny I was then. Like, I always show him how skinny I was.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Because when we started talking, it was. I was skinny.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, he knows. Yeah, I was.

[Oscar]

He's similar. He likes me, like, a little thicker. Yeah. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm determined. Moses trying to keep me thick. He like anything. I'm on a diet. And he'll be like, let's have pasta. Let's have this.

[Darian]

I'm trying to keep you healthy and away from the drugs.

[Oscar]

But the drugs.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, well, they're prescription.

[Oscar]

Trying to keep you away.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, When I met you, too. I know. I always say that. When I met him, because we have a photo of us, like, our first photo together, and I was, like, 180. I was so. I was. Was a lot skinnier back then. It's so crazy. You really don't see it. I never noticed it, though. It's so crazy because, like, you look back at old photos and you don't see it until you look back at old photos.

[Oscar]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

And you're like.

[Oscar]

At the time, you. It's not like you felt it. I'm the same. I never felt it. But looking back, I was like, wait, what?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Why didn't I just, like, no chin.

[Trisha Paytas]

I had such a skinny chin. I was like, wow, I really catfished you. Sorry. I really just was like, oops. But it's okay. I. But I had really bad skin back then. I had really ugly hair. My hair was, like, literally an inch when I met. I'm. It, like, stuck really straight. Yeah. It was, like, fried. And I remember it was during quarantine, so I couldn't get my hair done. I couldn't get any, like, skin facials. I couldn't get my nails done. So I just looked.

[Darian]

No, but it's up. You look better and better since we met.

[Trisha Paytas]

Thanks, babe. Chubby.

[Oscar]

Taste everything.

[Darian]

We had a glow. Glow up.

[Trisha Paytas]

Thank you. Thank you. Sometimes when I'm, like, feeling really fat in the mirror, like, before taking a shower, I was just show. I'm like, look how fat I look or I'll jiggle. Like my. Yeah, I used to dig on my butt and I just jiggle. Everything's like, what are you doing? I'm, like, jiggling my back, my butt and my thighs for you. Just everything. Sometimes you just gotta embrace the fat. Sometimes you're just like, here's all the fat and watch it jiggle. And I do. Do you ever do that in the mirror? I was in the mirror the other day. I was like, just jiggling all my fat. He's like, what are you doing? I'm like, I don't know. Just Seeing all my body shake. I just heard there was a lot of jiggling. Just fat everywhere. Even my back, which I never had back fat. I was like, damn, there's a lot of fat. It's fine. I really don't mind. And just embracing it at this point. But. But do you ever do that? Just stare at yourself in the mirror and be like, damn. No, really. Or the fupa. Have you ever had a. Well, that's personal. You don't have to say it. But I have a really wide set one. And it gets fatter. Like, how does it get fatter? I don't understand that. It's so fat.

[Darian]

That's pregnancy.

[Trisha Paytas]

I wonder if you can lipo a fupa.

[Oscar]

I'm sure you can. I feel like you can do anything.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. Anyways, it's pretty. There's a lot of fat happening. If there was an apocalypse, though, I guess I would survive. Pretty long tongue, you know, because, like, you could eat yourself.

[Oscar]

Does your body eat your own? Like, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think it has a lot to eat off of because people who are like really skinny or something, it's like, they probably not have much. Oh, they probably try to eat me. Do you think that was real cannibalism.

[Darian]

Still happening someplace?

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you remember the Donner Party? Did you ever learn about that in school? And they would, like. They end up eating each other. And I'm like, is that real?

[Oscar]

Was that the Organ Trail something thing? And by the end of the snowy. Was it snowy?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And so then they had to eat each other.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I do remember that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, did that really happen? Or they just made that up?

[Oscar]

I feel like it probably did. I could believe it.

[Trisha Paytas]

There's never a movie about that.

[Oscar]

I'm sure there was. There's that show, Yellow Jackets. I haven't.

[Trisha Paytas]

About the Oregon Trail.

[Oscar]

I think it's inspired by, remember like a soccer team crash in, like the Andes or something a long time ago? I think the crash in the. I could be making this up fully, but I think I'm right. Ish. Ish, right, Ish. I think they crashed in the Andes. And again, because they were like stranded there for a long time that no one got discovered. So some of them ate, though. Maybe the ones that died already or something. I don't know. So I think it's inspired by that.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's a real story, a real news.

[Oscar]

The soccer team. Yeah. And the Andes. But then the yellow jackets is like. And it's like a girl version of that. But similar.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's a TV show on now.

[Oscar]

I think it's on Showtime or something. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't think I want to watch. Watch it. I don't know. Lord of the Flies was like that.

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah, I forgot about Lord of the Flies.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you like that book as a kid?

[Oscar]

I think I liked it as a kid. I remember reading in the high school. In high school. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is the flies circled around. They put like someone's head on a stake and the fly circled around it. There's a lot of boys being dubious on an island.

[Oscar]

Yeah. It was all boys, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was like, that's why I don't. Why were they all on the island?

[Oscar]

I wonder how they even got two.

[Trisha Paytas]

Everything is always like a plane crashing on island Lost. Like it's always Gilligan's Island. Like it's always something which Lost really did just rip off Gilligan's island. To be honest. I was watching that. I was like, this is definitely a rip.

[Oscar]

But Lost was a plane, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Was a boat. But same same thing.

[Darian]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love Gilligan's Island. I wish I had to bring that back. That was such a good show for the 60s. When you think about that, I was like, that's so creative. Who, like, thought of that idea? And it's so easy. They all wear the same outfits every episode. That's true.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're on an island.

[Oscar]

I think they filmed that at my wedding. Work weirdly on the set.

[Trisha Paytas]

Studio City.

[Oscar]

Because the street, like, when I go into the lot, the street that, like, I'm on is Gilligan's aisle Drive.

[Trisha Paytas]

Stop it.

[Oscar]

Yeah. So I want to say they built.

[Trisha Paytas]

The island on the studio side.

[Oscar]

I feel like maybe they filmed it in there. Right. Because why else would it be called Gilligan Dial Drive.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's so cool. Bob Denver loved him. You should ask. That's so cool. I want to come. I'm manifesting a job on a lot this year. My own show. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. Maybe I'll work on Lopez vs Lopez for an episode. They're at Universal. Love that show. Jaime Camille was just on there. Rogelio de la Vega from playing Jane the Virgin. He was just on again.

[Oscar]

Oh, I guess he did remind me of. I saw on Spill Sessions. Instagram. But because you speaking of Jane the Virgin that I guess Justin Baldoni's team released like these voice memos.

[Trisha Paytas]

Heard him listen to him.

[Oscar]

I listened to the one that Spillshash posted.

[Trisha Paytas]

The basement one.

[Oscar]

Yeah. But it was basically he Was saying how Blake didn't want him at the premiere of It Ends With Us, so he had to be, like, in the basement, and he was still happy celebrating with his family. But I'm like, does that prove anything? Like, if she knows, if you did something to her, then why would she want you at the premiere?

[Trisha Paytas]

The whole thing was weird. I didn't think that too. I was like. Because I saw that around Tick Tock everywhere, and I was kind of like, wait, what does this mean? Because this one girl I found, Tick Tock, I don't know her name, but she's always like, this is crazy. The voice memos have just been really. So I like listening to the thing. And I was like, I don't really understand the. What is this about? Like, is him like. He's like, yeah. We were made to go in the basement. All the family and friends that I, like, loved were all just there. And we just had to laugh because we're like, what is happening? Or something. And I was like, yeah. First of all, why. Why did you go to the basement? Why do they send you there? Why are you okay with it? Like, there must be a reason you're in the basement. Like, the whole thing was so weird. I. I didn't really get it either. I didn't really get that either.

[Oscar]

I literally was sent to the basement with my whole. All my friends and family for over an hour. I wasn't allowed to be seen. She didn't want me anywhere near her or the rest of the cast. We start laughing because of the ridiculousness of this whole thing. And I realized, like, on a night that was supposed. Supposed to be so materialistically joyful, I was in the basement with the people that I love the most, and we were all joyful and laughing because none of that matters. We're in this business because we're artists and we believe in what we do. Everyone was acting as if it, like, exposed so much, but I'm like, it really just.

[Trisha Paytas]

What?

[Oscar]

Yeah, I guess maybe her being mean, but I'm like, well, again, I could be swayed either way, but I'm like, this thing in particular, I'm like, well, she. If you did something to where everyone, the cast, the crew don't like you because of your behavior or something, then. And they didn't want you there, but you still insisted on being there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, right. They said, like, do not even come to the open mirror.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Which. That is such a tough one. Like, if, you know, like, no one wants you there, that is wild to show up. However, it's like, your movie, your passion project, like, something that you really wanted to do.

[Oscar]

And I think it would have been weirder if he wasn't there. Right? Because I remember even for, like, us at et, like, we did the premiere, not even, really, like, Tick Tock, a lot of there was a conspiracy on Tick Tock about them having a feud or whatever. But it didn't hit the mainstream until after the premiere because then I remember we retroactively had, like, this interview with, like, Justin Baldoni. It was like, what do you think about working with Blake on the next. On the sequel? Like, will you direct again? And he was like, I think Blake Lively will direct the next one, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

And we didn't think anything of it until the rumors. And then I remember I retroactively was like, wait, I need to post this on Tick Tock. You know, so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Interesting. Yeah. The whole premiere actually gives me that, because I did not follow that closely. Like, then we, like, talked about it or whatever. But it is very weird to see, like, Ryan Reynolds and Blake Lively and, like, Hugh Jackman weirdly, like, all on the red carpet, like, taking pictures with everybody, with Colleen Hoover. And then, like, now you see, like, Dustin Baldoni, like, taking pictures of no one. I mean, it is a weird thing. And then she talks about how, like, Ryan rewrote the whole scene and he's all over this project and, like, you know, her wins are my. Like, just, like, very, very odd, like, the whole thing, like, retrospect. But I think more than, like, Lively getting a hate train. I think Ryan Reynolds deserves more of a hate train right now because he is giving me the ick everywhere I see him. Not just the red carpet, but now. Did you see him yet last night, presenting, like, a ward for Wicked?

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And he. First of all, I was like. I was like, why is he sending Wicked? Like, he has no connection to it. He's not, like, a musical person. Like, it was just such a weird thing. And then him being, like, ultra feminist, now all of a sudden be like, you know, like, this movie. You know, women don't get, like, a fair voice in Hollywood. Like, it was just being. He was just being a lot, and he was just giving me the ick in so many ways, trying to be relatable by calling Jonathan Bailey hot. I was like, you're not in this world. The Writers Guild can suck it because you've made it into a lollipop guild.

[Oscar]

East and West.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Wicked is a musical, and I feel that they've been very open about that. Music. It's a language. It's a language written by few but felt by many. Wicked is indeed wicked. It dares to center two powerful women. It examines a nuanced, complex relationship which has resonated with people for over two decades on stage. I don't like Ryan Reynolds, but I think if you said that even last year, I was like, I don't like him.

[Oscar]

I think, yeah, he does a lot of bits, and I think. Think the humor. His sense of humor is very, like, 2019. I think it's very old.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like, literally, like, Vince Vaughn or something. I'm like, what is this?

[Oscar]

He used to be very, like, likable. I think the. It just is very one note now. We've seen it so many times, and he plays the same character a lot, and all his characters are, like versions of him. So it's just kind of, like, run dry. And I. I just wish they adapted. And Blake was like. That's why Blake was also kind of unlike Blair before all the Justin Baldoni stuff, because she also adopted his, like, bits. Like, everything was bits, like innuendos, jokes. That's why I fear for Sabrina Carpenter, because her innuendos and her bits are cute now, but I think if she. She can't do it for too long, because then everyone will be sick of it. Everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's like, how old are they? 45. Ryan Reynolds.

[Oscar]

They're not that. Well, I think he's.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think he's 45, and I bet she's 39.

[Oscar]

Let me see.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's my guess. Ryan Reynolds, definitely. I'm.

[Oscar]

Damn.

[Trisha Paytas]

What is he.

[Oscar]

You're too good at this. He's 48. Blake is 30.

[Trisha Paytas]

See, I thought I was gonna even age him up, but I'm like, you were so shook by it. I was like, I knew it.

[Oscar]

You are too good.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Okay, so that's a big age difference. But even when they were doing, like, that's what I'm saying. This lawsuit brings up so many old clips, and it's like, not whatever, but it's like, even in the Comic Con panel when they're doing Green Lantern together, which I don't remember that shit. I was like, I don't even know what this is. But, like, I remember a lot of people, like, being, like, Blake Lively, like, seducing Ryan Reynolds, whatever. But, like, it was more like him being flirty, and he was the one that was married. And I was like, he deserves more of this hate train because he's talking about, like, oh, my God, she's Like super woman. And she like makes brownies overnight. And like, did you even sleep? How are you on set at 6am like all this like, weird stuff and how wonderful she was and how excited he was. Like, I don't know. He gives me more. And he was married at the time. I was like, I think Ryan Reynolds is more ick. And their age difference is crazy too. But I mean, obviously now it's like older or whatever. But how long have they been together?

[Oscar]

Let me see.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because they have like four kids. So they've been having. So I think one of their kids are like 10. They had to be gather at least 10 years, I bet.

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah. Since Green Lantern. So 20. 2011. And they. They got married in 2012.

[Trisha Paytas]

2011. How long ago was that? I'm so bad at math.

[Oscar]

14 years ago.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. I mean, again, I'm not like making their age difference a big thing, but it's just like, I mean, it's a long time to marry in Hollywood. Since remarried, right?

[Oscar]

Yeah. To Colin Jo from Saturday Night Live.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Oscar]

You didn't know that?

[Trisha Paytas]

Is that real? Yes.

[Oscar]

They have a baby.

[Trisha Paytas]

I thought it was like Colin Farrell or someone. She was married to Colin Joe's. Did we talk about this? How do I not know this? Wait, that your friend called crazy? Oh, yeah. I don't. He was nice on when I was very nice to me. That's crazy. Good for him. That's wild. Oh, I did see something. They're like, oh, they must be having money problems because she's like co hosting Good Morning America 4.

[Oscar]

She has Marvel money. Like, she's good. And Jurassic park money.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that's true.

[Oscar]

Even better.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, why do you always assume that they're like, well, they must have money.

[Oscar]

I didn't think it was random. She's. Because she is such a big movie star. Like, why is she co hosting the Today show? Bush? I like Scarlett Johansson a lot. I think she's sweet.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's crazy. I guess I knew that. I guess I'm just like, can't wrap my head around being married. That's crazy. I guess that's honestly an upgrade. I don't really like Holland Jones that much. Like his humor, but it's an upgrade from Ryan Reynolds humor. That's for sure. Good for her.

[Oscar]

The problem is they just are too sticky. Like, they just do everything is about their bits. Like, Lake adopted his sense of humor a lot too. So, like whenever they do promo tours for the movies, like they do like innuendos and the con. Like, I don't Know, they go back and forth and everything is self deprecating, sarcastic. And I think we. Yeah, they just haven't evolved their humor enough.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, but if that's our sense of humor, the ones, the interviews are horrible. Like, she is like the worst person I give interviews. Like the bump one always triggers me. There was another one I saw and she was so rude to like the interview. I was like, that's crazy. And I get it's like maybe a sense of humor thing, but it's actually like so wild. Like just the stuff she says to people. I'm like cringy. Yeah, I guess it's better they just don't do any interviews right now. Ryan Reynolds was at that wicked thing and I was like, why, why are you.

[Oscar]

He's like, it was on that he, he was presenting.

[Trisha Paytas]

What was he presenting?

[Oscar]

The National Board of Review Annual Awards Gala.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's wild. That sounds fake.

[Oscar]

I know it does. I remember seeing it like on the like agenda for yesterday and I was like, what the hell is this? It's weird because his humor does make him very, very successful. But I think just kind of mellow it out. Like, you know, everyone wants to see people adapt and stuff. Like everyone gets tired of seeing the one note over and over again.

[Trisha Paytas]

Especially at 48 is like wild because like I said, Sabrina Carpenter at 48, I guess it'd be kind of camp because she's. It's like Cher or something. It could be kind of camp, but. But Ryan Reynolds now, Absolutely.

[Oscar]

I feel like even Sabrina Carpenter in a year, she's still doing the like, ah, let me shake my espresso. You know what I mean, people? Cuz it's just how unfortunately this cycle is. Like, everyone likes it at first, but then after a while people get sick of it, you know, like if you were still doing the kitchen floor thing this whole time for like five years, people have been like, yeah, wrap it up, girl.

[Trisha Paytas]

She did do it for like 10 years. I think it was a decade. And people were like, okay, we're done with it, Michaela. You still have five more years left to cry on your.

[Oscar]

And then we gotta do something else. Something else. Change it up.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, my favorite crying video of hers though, really was her eating McDonald's on a McDonald's embossed tray. So it looks like a brand deal or something like that. Because McDonald's sent her a tray with like this like ingrained McDonald's and she's like eating her McDonald's on there. I was like, that's kind of Thing. She made me want McDonald's. She influenced me, that's for sure. McDonald's making a comeback in 2025. That's my prediction.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. I'm just like, again, I'm not team Justin. Trust me. I watched playing the Jane the Virgin. I'm just like, he's giving me the egg. But like it does. It is like context. He said that he was like wanting to know like how much he's gonna lift because he has like a bad back or something like that. So is that like making fun of her weight?

[Oscar]

But then that was just one circumstance. Again, this is what is alleged in the. In the Blake documents that he tried to set her up with a doctor for a strep throat, but instead of it being a doctor, it was a weight loss doctor.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is wild.

[Oscar]

Okay, that's wild. So she thought she was going a doctor for her throat was coming in and then it's someone to make her lose weight.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, that's like again, if. I mean, I like believer. But that's so wild.

[Oscar]

Like who would do that?

[Trisha Paytas]

That's like. And that's in whatever. But I've never heard that. And I but believe it. Which that makes me feel bad for her cuz that's like actually wild. Cuz she just like gave birth or something before it.

[Oscar]

Postpartum.

[Trisha Paytas]

Justin Baldon does give me the egg. Now all this when I do see him, like especially some. Some of this like over feminist, like getting an award for being like pro women. Yeah, that's ick. That's weird. But I guess like you said, I guess I'd rather someone be like a fake feminist than like being mean towards women. But then you always find out this happens. These telling her to go to weight loss Dr. Cody Go is like being dubious. And then it's like, oh, okay, so you're just being.

[Oscar]

That's why this moment in time and again, I was pro just in last year, but then nothing like fully canceled out. The. Yes, in my opinion, the stuff that Blake showed.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what I think too. I was like, yeah, she's like annoying. She's a bad interviewer, sucks. But like the stuff that she's accusing him of is crazy. Like showing her corn and saying she needs to lose weight and sending her to a weight loss doctor and like, you know all this like crazy, like, oh, you should climax to like just like crazy. That is like wild. That's what I'm saying. The sexual harassments that should be more focused on than like anything else. Because being like. Like, I don't know, everything else just seems like, not as important in my opinion of it, but, like, it seems.

[Oscar]

Like a show or movie or something because it's so extreme. And you would think, like, a big budget movie in 2024. Like, how did this even happen? Like, wait, what?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I guess I didn't get nominated for anything. No money. But like, it seems like a movie that would get nominated for stuff, doesn't it? Like, because it's about a serious topic.

[Oscar]

I think if it was done in a serious, like, I think of the source material was more serious. But it's like, you know, it was a very, like, unserious book to begin with, I think. Like, yeah, I mean, I hate to say, but it was like, know the quote unquote. Chick lit is what people call it, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Chiclet.

[Oscar]

Yeah, like girl literature.

[Trisha Paytas]

I've never heard that.

[Oscar]

It's like the genre that. The romance section at Barnes and Noble or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, nothing about the movie was sexy or hot. I just had Rebecca Black on here. We were talking about movies that like horny films. She was saying Baby Girl was a horny film. She like, you should watch. I'm like, sold anything that's like a horny film. I'm.

[Oscar]

It is really.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm watching it. I was so excited. I was like, absolutely watching this. But this one, like, in theory, it sounded like it should be a horny film. Nothing about it was a horny film. Everything about it actually gave me the ick. Even before all this, like. And not just her clothing or her fashion. It was like, him too. Like, nothing about it was, like, sexy to me. And I don't know why, because obviously they're both, like, attractive people. But the whole movie was just not hot and not sexy and there was nothing horny.

[Oscar]

Also weird. Again, that's why the source material does get criticized, because. And again, I know it was inspired by, like, Colleen Hoover's mom, but the idea of a sexiness to a story of, like, devious survival is also just kind of odd to start with. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, such heavy scenes for a movie about that. It's like, that should not be, like, the focus of this movie. It's. It was very. But none of it was hot. None of it. When I was watching it, I was like, this is all bad. Even the first half. I was like, okay, this is. I don't know. None of it was cute. None of it was funny.

[Oscar]

The whole thing is still, like. It's hard for me to wrap my head Around. Because even like, again, the claims from both sides, they all are just. It's all so outlandish.

[Trisha Paytas]

What if this is all just publicity for the sequel and they're both in it?

[Oscar]

That'd be crazy. But also it's like, honestly, at this point, point, I don't know, I feel like anything could happen.

[Darian]

That's the only movie they'll ever do in their lives. Cuz after that, nobody would want anything.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what's interesting.

[Oscar]

Blake has a simple favor too coming out this year.

[Trisha Paytas]

What's a simple favor? Is it big?

[Oscar]

It was not huge. It was like moderately big.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, it already came out.

[Oscar]

See the first one. This is a sequel that's coming out.

[Trisha Paytas]

A simple favor too. Yeah, that's what it's called. Yeah, I can at least change it up.

[Darian]

Just another favor.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's a bad title.

[Oscar]

Accomplice.

[Trisha Paytas]

Was it good?

[Oscar]

I remember watching it. I liked it. It wasn't a huge movie, but it was kind of like a mystery. It was her, Blake Lively and Anna Kendrick. And I want to say like 20. Around 2016, 2017 or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, a while ago.

[Oscar]

Yeah, it was a while ago. I don't know. You probably wouldn't remember, but there was an era where she was wearing a lot of suits. And it's because her character wore a lot of suits in the movie.

[Trisha Paytas]

She loves. She loves a fashion choice for her characters. I mean, she's. Maybe she thinks she's like a fashionista or something.

[Oscar]

She does. She famously. She, like, doesn't have a style stylist. And like, even for like the Met Gala and stuff. So it's always like, oh, Blake Lilig. What is she gonna wear to the Met Gala? Because she styles herself.

[Trisha Paytas]

We know. I mean, it's just like nobody online. There's not one person who thinks her style is good. And it's fine, have your ugly style if you like it, but it's just like to flex. Like, I don't have a stylist. It's like, okay.

[Oscar]

I don't know. Like you were like, what? No, I don't even remember for me personally, but in her, like, prime, when she was like a girl, like when her and Ryan Reynolds were a couple, like, everyone loved her style. Like people. Like at the Met Gala. Yeah, people would always compliment her style. Style. And like, everything really shifted with it ends with us.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really?

[Oscar]

Yeah. Because she was very much liked for a really long time.

[Trisha Paytas]

I just have like, no recollection of anything about her, like, at all. Like, and not even in a shady Way, like, I couldn't tell you. Like, movies. She's been in styles like red carpets, Med Gallup. Like, nothing.

[Oscar]

She was always just it girl, which is so odd because she hasn't really been in a hit, like, besides Gossip Girl. Like, she's been not. Not in a lot of big things. I mean, she dated, like, she was just so famous, almost like socialite, I guess she was just very pretty. And she dated, like, Leonardo DiCaprio. And she d. A lot of, like, famous people. Maybe she.

[Trisha Paytas]

But maybe because she was with Ryan Reynolds, it became. She became more famous.

[Oscar]

Yeah, it's definitely more like. Also, he became more famous.

[Trisha Paytas]

They.

[Oscar]

As a couple. Really, they just became super famous together. And they have, like, you know, they're pretty and sarcastic and, like.

[Trisha Paytas]

And now everyone hates him for that reason.

[Oscar]

Exactly. How sad all that works.

[Trisha Paytas]

It does happen. The pendulum swinging. That is. That is what. You know what? This is kind of a different note. But, like, speaking of things that no one remembers coming out, I was telling Moses, I was like, oh, it's so weird that, like, Travis Kelce, like, are you smarter? The celebrity, like, never came out. He's. Did you see it?

[Oscar]

Where did I remember when it was on? When it aired a long time ago.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, no one talked about it. It's never been on any clipped thing on TikTok.

[Oscar]

It came out around the same time he was on that Ryan Murphy show, the Grotesque.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't. I haven't seen one person talk about this. I had to look it up, and I was like, wait, there's like, so many clips of it online. And I was like, that. Where did it air?

[Oscar]

I forget. Maybe it was on prime or something. It was on a streamer.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's crazy. Nobody talked because everyone talks about Travis Kelsey. Whatever he does. Everyone's like, it's Travis Kelsey.

[Oscar]

But that is true. The only thing I remember, I never watched it. The headline I remember coming from it was, I think a Real housewife was on it. And then did an interview and just said that Taylor Swift was with him on set a lot. And then I remember I sent it to you. I was like, damn, if you were on it, you would have been with Taylor.

[Trisha Paytas]

But then I was like, that's all I heard about it. Yeah, okay.

[Oscar]

But it was on. I remember seeing a trailer. That's all I've seen.

[Trisha Paytas]

But, yeah, I was so sad when I saw that it came out. And then was like, as I haven't seen any clips of it. And he's like, well, they should have put you on it. Would have been clipped everywhere. I was like, thanks Moses. Always coming through for me because I was, I was on hold to be on that show and I was super excited. And then I was like, oh, it didn't come out. Thank God. And I was like, oh, it did come out, but no one talked about it. Anyways, still love all those people over there. But I was just, I was so shocked because everyone talks about Travis Kelsey and I was like, I wonder if they'll get engaged this year.

[Oscar]

Honestly, I feel like it's the year of engagement.

[Trisha Paytas]

So maybe Timothy Taylor.

[Oscar]

Travis Tom Dea. Yeah, so that's cute.

[Trisha Paytas]

I could see it. Arian Dasker.

[Oscar]

What?

[Darian]

Combining names.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Who's Dosker?

[Darian]

So that's.

[Trisha Paytas]

Think about it.

[Oscar]

Oscar.

[Trisha Paytas]

You don't know. Okay, well you'll have to wait and see what the comments say. Oh, did you not get it right away either? You just want to know.

[Darian]

I was stuck in the aria.

[Oscar]

I got that one. Ariana. Ethan.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my God. I'm not saying, I'm not saying it.

[Oscar]

Wait, who is Doscar?

[Darian]

Us.

[Oscar]

Oh, dare you to me. I was thinking a celebrity. I was like, who else has another Oscar?

[Darian]

Maybe it's going to be all over Oscar Crave.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's true. Oscar Crave will be so excited when you go to the whales and propose. That's how I see your proposal. Like here's the whales.

[Darian]

Whale comes and shoots.

[Oscar]

Yeah, everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

Are you going to go see the whales again this year?

[Oscar]

Maybe so you know the, the whales that I saw in Monterey came down to Orange county last week and I'm like damn, I really wish I went to go see them.

[Trisha Paytas]

But how do they move all the way down there?

[Oscar]

They just be swimming.

[Darian]

They're on tour.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, everybody is. Honestly. Let's be real, like everybody.

[Oscar]

It is still crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Friend is crazy. And then for David like what was like what she's the best friend. Like what a six day tour. I wonder what they did. I always just wonder what people do. I guess Grace is a stand up but like do brie do stand up with her.

[Oscar]

Good question.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm always so curious. I told you this year you should go boots on the ground like every show and see it is a good idea.

[Oscar]

My gym is like little mall I guess, sort of like outdoor mall. And Remy Cruz was promoting, not her there personally but there was a big like poster for her. She has like a. Yeah, the sweet fin. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my God. I was like wow.

[Oscar]

No, I don't like fish, so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh yeah, you probably like it.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I wouldn't like it. But I was like, oh, Remy. Oh, I would love to just be in a random restaurant like that.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's crazy. In the Valley.

[Oscar]

Yeah. I remember. I feel like Emma Chamberlain had one at some point, too. A little sweet fin thing. But what would we have? I guess banging buns. You did have. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

It wasn't real. Like, I mean, that was like, oh, my God. She had a collab. Because I saw, like, people reviewing it. Something that was like, oh, yeah, like Johnny Gilbert. That was crazy. That was so cool. I think. I think Jake Weber bought one of my Just Trish blankets. My sister said she was. Where does he live? And I was like. And I told her, she's like, I think you found one of your blankets. I was like, that's so nice. Like, you could have literally just asked, I swear.

[Oscar]

Because Selena Gomez on her, like, Instagram, she was like, with Benny Blanco and she had a pink and white checkered blanket. And I was like, is that just Trish Blank? Should I look at it?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Oscar]

I couldn't tell O.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's tough.

[Oscar]

It's tough. The only thing that threw me off is it has almost like a white trim at the top.

[Trisha Paytas]

The white trim, it looks like. Like smaller, a little bit. The squares look a little smaller. I mean, but that's. Yeah, yeah.

[Oscar]

You think? I feel like maybe Benny Blanco has tuned in at some point. Oh, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

He presented us to him.

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah, you're right.

[Trisha Paytas]

He didn't say no. He's like, what would I talk about? That's what. That's why Harry Daniel said, yeah, you're right. I think at the Wicked premiere, he had to sang to Benny Blanco about the art.

[Darian]

Tony's toenails.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Actually, we do have a lot of discussion.

[Trisha Paytas]

For sure. Benny Blanco would. It's just like, so funny that Harry Daniels pitches, and I think he really does because Bowen confirmed. He's like, yeah, he did. He did. He did pitch. So thank you. I'm sure it's, like, weird, but thank you for that. I love the name out there. I love getting the brand out there. He'd be fun.

[Oscar]

Oh, my God. Yeah. And maybe he'll produce one of your gay ancestors anthems.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I should play some for him. They're really, really good. I can't wait for it to come out. I think I'm gonna do the whole gay album. I think that's where it's gonna go.

[Oscar]

You kind of have to. Yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, four hits. I mean, that's like an ep. So I don't know what to be called gay ep.

[Oscar]

I don't know. His gay EP is cover fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's cute. I like it. All right. The COVID will just be my Birkin bag.

[Oscar]

That is actually very, very fierce. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

All right, done. Coming soon, soon in June to Pride 2025. Oh, wow.

[Oscar]

I. Is it time to transition to the demons?

[Trisha Paytas]

It's the demon hour.

[Oscar]

Open Pandora's Box. Callback.

[Trisha Paytas]

The gates of hell has been unleashed. And I was shook yesterday. I mean, Moses can tell you. I was like, I was. I was shook. I was a little anxious. I was a little shaken. I was like, this doesn't feel. Feel fun. Like, it was so nice. I think we literally just talked about this on the podcast, where it's like, he's not in our face.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think it might have even been Monday's episode where I was like, he's enemy number one. But, like, he's not in my face. So you know what I mean? It's, like, it lessens it a little bit. But now that he's, like, back in people's faces, just laughing and just, you know, driving cars into pools again, it's, like, so infuriating. And I had to tweet. That's how mad I was. I had to tweet. I never do. I'm always like, I'll just save her Hot topics. I don't care that much. But I cared so much, much. I had a tweet, and there was only one that was like, well, Trish, you know, we. You know, we. We were here for you to change. You know, let's see if he's changed. I'm like, people can change, yes. But, like, to have, like, zero accountability for, like, the stuff that he's done and still currently doing in this, like, lawsuit. Like, you literally, like, almost killed somebody and then blamed him for that. Like, it's, like, so crazy. It's like I get people changing and growing and whatever, but, like, he hasn't. And he has no apologies and no anything. It's just like, like. And Jeff. Jeff responded too. But anyways, David, go ahead and set up. David Dobrik's back. He made a vlog. We were all waiting. When is the vlogs coming back, David? 14 minutes and 20 seconds.

[Oscar]

David Dobrik's big YouTube comeback. And of course, I'm surprised more people aren't really clocking this. It is the oldest trick in the book when you've gone through something, like, to have a physical transformation, because a physical transformation is a way to trick people into thinking that you are a different person. Person. And yes, like a physical transformation, like getting muscle like that, it does take a lot of work. It takes a lot of resilience, but that doesn't automatically signify an emotional mental growth or change. And it's ironic that Cody KO is doing the physical transformation at the same time because again, it's just like, literally, that's how his comeback is happening. It's on The Cody Trains YouTube channel and it's documenting his fitness journey. So it's very, very, very similar to David's big comeback.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like when you go to prison and, like, the whole world has ostracized you, so you're like, well, let me just lift some weights. You know what I mean? Let me just get ripped while I'm here.

[Oscar]

Yeah. And it's funny because I remember we did talk about last year. I forget where he was out of the country and he was paparazzi somewhere. And I was like, oh, he does look. He's starting to look better.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

And then I did, like, a little teaser after the last, last Zela fitness transformation that Ilia did where he, like, I think maybe it was Zayn or something, where he was, like, eating a burger and drinking, like, a Pepsi. And then he saw Zayn's abs and he. It was like a teaser where he dropped it and signifying he was going to go on this physical transformation. So I guess I kind. I knew and forgot that this was going to happen.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

But it all just, again, kind of depressed me, to be honest. I'm not going to lie. And I am someone. And I think the comments. The comment section was like, very much blazing him.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know.

[Oscar]

And it felt very much like, damn, like we're gonna be the minority here. And I am someone. And I. I am someone who. I loved David. I did. I loved him. He's my number one celebrity crush. Loved all his videos. I had the merch. I was like the vlog squad interviewer. I would interview. I would just go to their house and interview for nothing. I don't even know what it was. I was like, what's coming up on the vlogs? Like, let us, like, looking back. I was like, what was I doing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Coming up in the vlogs?

[Oscar]

I was all of. I was covering every single year and opening. Yes, there is not a vlog squad I would turn down. I was there seated, talking to them about anything and everything. I loved them. I loved them all so much. But then the big shift was the Business Insider article where the girl in the vlog was allegedly essayed, I have to say, allegedly by Dirty Dom. And it was a bit that was filmed in the vlog. Posted in the vlog.

[Trisha Paytas]

In the documentary with Casey Neistat too. This girl.

[Oscar]

Yeah, she's involved in. But for. That's like the first time I really had a shift. Cuz even when you were going through it, like I remember I was interviewing you after you were excommunicated from the vlog squad. I knew that they were being terrible to you. And even then I like se. I like had that separation where I still loved you, but I also still love David.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yep, yep, totally.

[Oscar]

But then seeing like, I don't know, seeing just like a girl who. Whose life was changed, right? Like she. There was a trust there, there was a power dynamic there. Like obviously she was a fan who was excited to be in a David's vlog and that came at the expense of getting essayed. Like she couldn't consent to Dom.

[Trisha Paytas]

David filmed it, David filmed it.

[Oscar]

And it was posted and it was like a funny bit. And then.

[Trisha Paytas]

And no, like remorse slash, like payout. Not even monetary. Like something to like redeem her, to help her through the trauma. Just like a reach out, you know what I mean? Like something.

[Oscar]

Yeah. And yes, the apology videos came after, but obviously the first one was not handled well. It was on the. This views channel or whatever. And then he had to post the other one and. But the only reason he posted the second one is cuz Dirty Dom tried to throw David under the bus.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Oscar]

And so he was like, no, like I'm going to throw Dirty Dom under the bus. None of it really came out of like a, A place of goodwill, you know what I mean? It was. He apologized because he had to.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

And also their allegations about Dirty D. I didn't even realize this until I was like looking back to see, see, but there was allegations against Dirty Dom. Like a girl literally posted on YouTube like sat down, did a sit down video talking about how she was like accosted by Dirty Dom. Like they're at a party and he like was on top of her.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh yeah.

[Oscar]

And this was like two years.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like VidCon girl.

[Oscar]

I think so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. There was one, I remember.

[Oscar]

Yeah, she was like at a party and like he was like allegedly like on top of her. Like wouldn't get away from her, Kissed her without her consent. Allegedly like, yeah, that groped her breast. Allegedly.

[Trisha Paytas]

She. That was like a big video but like no one paid attention to it. I didn't even hear.

[Oscar]

Hear about this. And that was two years. That was like 2017, I believe. So David, despite that video, he. He was still a character in David's vlog, quote, unquote character in David's vlogs. So he was still a big part of him. So obviously, like, if you actually cared about victims in general, like, if you would hear that he would already be out. Right? But then, yeah, until the world picked up on it in turn, then that's when you have like a chance change and disassociate, disconnect yourself from.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right, so and just like then through. But I think even more than that is like, obviously, like, I mean that obviously. Yes, because. But people could like, argue, okay, well, that's Dom. That's not David. Even though he did film in. I mean, he's a part of it. He's aware of it. But like, the stuff with Jeff is like a direct David. And in the vlog, he's like, I value friendship so much and like, this is like his friend. Terrible accident happened. But then not only did this terrible accident happen, he doesn't follow through with payments. He, you know, does everything as like, you know, a write off and, you know, insurance and stuff. But then to also. I just think the craziest part is to like, throw Jeff under the bus and be like, Jeff, it was Jeff's idea. What do they say? Jeff was the one driving or David wasn't one drive Something like insane, like wild. And according to Jeff, like them like forging documents. Like all this, like, crazy stuff. Like, it's actually insane. Jeff so vocal about it. Still so vocal about it. And to come back because they were talking about on their podcast, because their podcast came back. And the only reason I know this, I watched Spill Sash. I was not listening to that podcast, but I was listening to Spill Session. She. There was like a clip and she was talking about how he said he took a break, but didn't mention, like the accident or the lawsuit or anything like that. It's just that, like, he needed a break. He wasn't in the same good mental health space or whatever, which is like so insane to once again, like, not acknowledge the Jeff situation. You're like, in this current lawsuit and just like not paying and not doing any. That this is like, so. And it's like, currently happening. It's currently affecting someone's life and you almost like, killed someone and you're just like, not again. Accidents can happen, but if you don't, like, acknowledge it and just like say sorry and apologize and like a public apology, a private apology, Pay for stuff. Like, it's just like. So he said, too. He was like, giving out all these Teslas in the vlog to his employees. Yeah. Which is, like, nice. But it's also like, wow, you owe so much money to Jeff and his surgeries that he's paying out of pocket. And it's like, you can. You can't do that, but you're doing all of this. It's like, it's at the end, they gift Mr. Beast, like, gifts. Ilya, like, Lamborghini, a blue Lamborghini. It's just like. And then he said. He said on the podcast, he's like, yeah, I don't like the vlogs as much because, like, you know, you just run out of people to give cars to. And I was just like, you're just so out of touch is so everything. And then, you know, to be Jeff, like, for me, like, it makes me mad because I just, like, I really, really despise David. I just think he's actually a horrible person. Just, like, personally. And, like, people can change and grow. For sure. I knew him a long time ago. But just all the stuff of how he's handled Jeff and everything, I just like, even the documentary, I saw a clip, I think it was like a leaked clip of the case. You saw that one where he was like, asking David. He's like, you know, anything for views, right? Or whatever, until it becomes, like, dangerous. And he's like, do you feel any different about it now? Or something? And David's just like, no, no. Yeah, just like, cold. It's like. And it's like this close up, tight shot of him. And, like, David looks scary in the thing. Like, just like lifeless behind the eyes. And then when he's like, do you feel different? He's like, thinking about, thinking about. He's like, no. I was like, this is crazy. Like, your friend was just like, because of you driving an excavator, your friend literally almost died. Like, went, like, blind. Like, just. Oh, just like. And if I was Jeff, I'd be so pissed because my life, like, was altered. And it's like, you have to do this huge lawsuit, which David's just dragging out because he has, like, money and it could drag out forever. And I think Jeff's lawyers, he said, is pro bono. So, like, eventually they could just maybe just stop and give up on the case because maybe they think it's gonna be dragged out forever. I don't know. It's just so. Oh, it's so frustrating. And the fact that it's like the vlogs haven't changed and it's still like, dangerous.

[Oscar]

That's crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like the one with Nick Jonah or whatever. Nick Antonio and like driving the car into the pool and it's like, it's like a two second clip in the vlog. And I was like, what was the full clip? What is the context? Like, why did you do this? Like, again, I'm sure there's no safety coordinators. I'm sure there's no stunt supervisors around. Like, it's just. It literally just felt like the exact same thing in 2019. And it was just like, oh, it just pissed me off. And Jeff, I'm sure we extra pissed. I mean, I saw his like, little like tweet or whatever, which was nice compared to what I would be like if I saw David making a comeback while I was in the middle of a lawsuit with him trying to get money. Because Jeff's constantly going through surgeries. Like, he's constantly going through it. Tana's really close friends with him and she always says, like, you know, I'm like worried about him. Like, he's just mentally going through it and stuff like that. Like, he's like having a time of it. Oh, God, yeah. Watching it, I'm just like. On one hand I was like, well, I guess it's like good content if he's back. On the other hand, I'm like, God, it was so nice when he was just away and like, not in our faces. You know what I mean?

[Oscar]

It's just so unsettling because again, the comments are like, I don't care about the drama. Like, this is just a good video, but. But it's not drama. There's just a big difference between someone making a bad joke, making several having bad takes, being problematic, which obviously he has done. You know, those problematic jokes and stuff too. So that's also in there. But it's when there's like real life people that are hurt, right? And then it's also like, again, the craziest thing, ending the video with Mr. Beast, someone who again, chases like sensationalism and has. Doesn't illustrate or demonstrate like a regard for human life. Like, their priorities are a video and content versus people's lives, safety, well being. It's been demonstrated over and over and over again. Like, that's both of their mos. So it's crazy. I think that's like a cool flex. Like, here are these two guys that like, don't really care about you. That's what's sad. I mean, that girl that like went and filmed in Dirty Dom's apartment was a fan and he, David didn't care about her. Didn't care about her well being. Jeff was his friend and David didn't care about his well being. So anyone who's like watching, thinking like, oh, like it's just a good video. Well, if David ever had to choose between you or a video, he would use you for a video. Yeah, anyone. He would use anyone for a video.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it's very. In Mr. Beast, same way with Chris Tyson, like knowing some of the stuff that she was like doing and just like kind of like letting her still have like a platform in the videos. Like, it was like ominous. And it's not, not even like I have Nothing personal against Mr. Beast. I do not know him like that like, at all. And it's just like it was, it was just like them together was very like dark. Very like ominous. Very like, I don't know, just not a good feeling. The whole thing of it gave me like a big ick. And like you said, them collabing together was like, might as well throw Cody Co in there. You know what I mean? It was just like such a, such a weird, such a weird thing. And just all them laughing and Natalie in there laughing, knowing like all the stuff that Jeff like alleges she did on this like situation really be being this like master manipulator. I mean, according to him, she like forged his signature, you know what I mean? Which is like so allegedly, of course, but it's just. And then they're all just like laughing and giggling and just like as if it's like 2019 again. It's just like, so, yeah, it is.

[Oscar]

Just wild to have all this stuff thrown out. I mean, in the documentary too. I said it was over the documentary, but now I'm like, wait, actually we might have to pull that back. We might have to leave the whole thing because he literally. In the, in the Jeff Casey interview, Casey says that he says he does. He asked him, do you feel responsible for what happened to Jeff? And David says yes in that documentary. Oh, that's what they said.

[Trisha Paytas]

So can't that should be used in court? Be like, I am responsible for this.

[Oscar]

And I feel like that needs to be like brought up more. I don't know. And like, obviously if the victim is in that documentary, like, it's been a while, maybe people forget the. But it's like real life, people were hurt and he didn't care. Like even back in the day, was it 2018? 2019, when Jonah did that motorcycle thing and he had to go to the hospital. And again, in the documentary, they talk about that and how David, everyone, like, he sent people to go to the hospital with Jonah and he had to edit that vlog to turn it around and post the next day because he cared more. Again, he values content more over human life. So you can also tell when he, like, excommunicates people from the vlog squad because they are, like, a threat to, like, the brand. Again, he doesn't care about the friendships. It was more about how he was perceived. So it is just frustrating because he has abs now and it's like, you're a different person. No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that does.

[Oscar]

It's frustrating seeing everyone, like. Or a lot of people glaze him for it. And, like, I loved him too, but, like, seeing what he did, like, what happened to a young girl. Seeing what happened to Jeff. Yeah, it's like, how.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because again, I feel like we always say this, like, accountability that goes such a long way. If he was, like, settling the lawsuit tomorrow, right? And was like, you know what? Here's $20 million, and, like, does it fix everything? Like, no, but at least there's some sort of, like, conclusion resolution. And it's like, okay, that feels like, a little bit better. Same thing with, like, Mr. Beast. I feel like there was more, like, a more solid conclusion from, like, a lot of his scandals. The Ava, Chris, Tyson thing. Like, if there was more. Something more solid rather than, like, the things he addresses are so, like, not what people want to know about. And same thing with David. It's like, God, it goes such a long way. So I just think that's what's the most frustrating. And just seeing people just, like, move past it be like, okay, you know, it's a Cody co. I don't think people care as much anymore, but the fact that, like, so many people are still so excited for a David vlog back, I just hope it's, like, not a regular thing because it's just like, again, seeing it in your face is just like a lie. It's just like, okay, this is like, if you're done, Snapchat, hidden, whatever, I don't really care that much. But back in your face, just being so, I don't know, out of touch, giving away, like, Lamborghinis with Mr. Beasts on it. Like, it's like, oh, I'm so over it.

[Oscar]

Ilya has money, obviously, so, like, yeah, I don't want to see, like, rich people get more cars. Like, I'd rather See, you do make a difference to like the communities you've hurt at that point.

[Trisha Paytas]

And he was like traveling everywhere into like a lot of like, you know, like, like India, like, could use a lot of help and stuff like that. So we like traveling places. I was like, you think at that point you could like, give like something? Be like, we donated to this, we gave cars to this country or something. I don't know. Like, if you're being that route, like you said, the Mr. B is philanthropic of it all. Like, it's like, do something. Because even the travel vlogs and I guess maybe this is being really like me just like picking at little things. But like him and like the Arabic countries and just kind of like the one guy was talking about how he would give like how he's like, how many goats for Natalie? Like David asked that guy. I was like, it's just so, like, just so cringy. I'm just like, oh. There was a lot of like, cultural things that just like pissed me off so much. I'm like, you get to travel, you get you all this cool stuff and like, these are the jokes like you're making. I just. And again, I mean, it's probably fine. There was like a bit where like the tailor was like feeling him up and it just feels again, it's like the Ryan Reynolds of it all. I was like, this is not 2018 where this humor is like you.

[Oscar]

It's so the same year and he's.

[Trisha Paytas]

Still relatively young, but you're not like an 819 year old kid anymore. Like, you are like, what, 26 or something?

[Oscar]

So it's like, it's just so off putting.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, we do say this. A lot of weight loss transformation. I like get everybody, I guess, like, because, you know, everyone loses weight with like Ozempic and stuff like that. And then it's like, no, I just did it the natural way. I just like worked out. At least he's like showing that he like, worked out, I guess. You know what I mean? Because, you know, a lot of people who lose a lot of weight, like, they don't show like the full body. You don't have to show your full body, but it's like, it is like, I guess he did like work out, but then. Yeah. Although he looks good, I guess. I don't know. But he's still a piece of person.

[Oscar]

Yeah. And the Zela fitness is like, it's a very intense regimen, I think.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, what is it? I don't even know what it is.

[Oscar]

I mean, it's basically dieting really, really hard. Like really intense dieting. Really intense working out.

[Trisha Paytas]

People can like buy the program or what?

[Oscar]

I think Ilya sells like. Yeah, like a program of stuff too. But. And he's done everything. Everyone like, obviously like Susie did it. Susie, she lost.

[Trisha Paytas]

I didn't see. She lost a lot of weight. I haven't seen her.

[Oscar]

Yeah, this was a while ago too. Natalie did it at one point.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do the girls have the same results? I haven't seen it, so I don't know.

[Oscar]

I think. Yeah, I remember like Natalie did hers and then was like very, very thin. I think she probably gained some weight back. But I. Not. Not even body shame or anything. But it's just because it is such an intense.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Oscar]

Diet and stuff that you do have to like upkeep that.

[Trisha Paytas]

So do you think it's assisted by anything like GLP1?

[Oscar]

I don't know. I feel like probably not. I feel like they probably do do it the natural, but it's also like they were like, they don't have jobs or kids or anything. So like they can dedicate.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Oscar]

All that time to like you literally have nothing else going on. So when you make fitness your whole life because you have the time to, then it is like more accessible, I guess because when you're like a parent or when you work full time jobs, it's like you're, you are working your fitness and diet into your schedule versus like that is your whole.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my God. Yeah. It's been literally my resolution since last new year, since 2024 to like do at least a Pilates class at like a gym. And like I still haven't been able to go because like the classes are like I have to go at like 6am and then the 6am classes are full. And then I'm just like. And then the days off we have, we have the girls in their classes. So it really is like a full. I mean it's great. And like, yeah, if it's like your job. If I got paid to transform, maybe not by Zealia. What is it?

[Oscar]

Zilla Fitness.

[Trisha Paytas]

You remember I was having like a redemption arc. I was like, you know what? Zane Heath, maybe they changed it. But then I saw them in the blog. Me too.

[Oscar]

I was like, wait, I don't know anymore.

[Trisha Paytas]

Absolutely not. And at some point you are too old. Like, I'm sorry. Like, like Zane and Scott, like they have to be in their 30s, right? They have to be like 31. I bet.

[Oscar]

Like, you're so good that you're probably right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Some point.

[Oscar]

Probably right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Aren't you just, like, okay, I don't know.

[Oscar]

32 Scotty Sire.

[Trisha Paytas]

Damn. God, they're so. They're so loyal to David. I just don't get it. I just don't get it.

[Oscar]

And 32 Zane.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, and it's like, yeah, you're still young, but, like, you're still, like, doing these, like, weird vlog trips with David. And I don't know, like, it literally.

[Oscar]

Is just the same humor, same bits, same jokes about, like, women being touched and stuff. And it's like, wait, didn't you get canceled for something like that? Like, what?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, there was, like, some gay jokes in there. Like, this is, like, so weird and stuff.

[Oscar]

Yeah, like, the Noah back thing, the Noah bag.

[Trisha Paytas]

There was one of, like, something about, like, there's no gay ghosts inside, so they won't like David. Like, there was just, like, so many weird, weird things. I'm just like, yeah. And the fact that they had Noah Beck's in this Dixie D'Amelio. Olivia Jade. I was like, oh, my God, if I saw Ramy and Alicia, my heart would break. I know they were at his party, but if I saw them in the vlog reacting to David Dabs, I'm done. I'm over it. Because, I mean, it's like. I mean, it is impressive, but, like, again, it's, like, doesn't distract. But it does distract because everyone's just.

[Oscar]

Like, wow, that's the headline, right? Everyone's like, he debuts insane body transformation. That's like, literally, like, E News. That's the headline. You know what I mean? So it was smart. Like, I mean, that is just like PR 101. But it is crazy how much PR 101. Like, to me, it's just, like, basic. I'm like, I see right through it. But it is crazy and scary and sad how effective it is crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

And it's also crazy, like, whose transformations get headlines? I think we've seen so many people lose so much weight. Like, especially influencers. And, like, why does only like, like, Nikocado got a lot of headlines? David Dobrik. But it's like, it's weird, like, other.

[Oscar]

People, especially because David wasn't, like, fat.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, he is. I think he called himself fat. Like, I was tired of being a fat. I was like, okay.

[Oscar]

Like, you know, I always thought. Thought he was so hot.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, well, I mean, you know, there's. There's someone for everyone.

[Oscar]

I wasn't for David, so that's okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

The David type is that's an acquired taste, I'm sure. But at least you were a fan. I guess a lot of people are. I don't know. I don't know. To me, a six pack isn't like, wow, that's so impressive.

[Oscar]

No, same. I wasn't again. It just made me feel very uncomfortable. I mean, again, it'll be interesting to see. Obviously around that first video, there is so much hype and so stuff. It'll be interesting to see what the upkeep is like.

[Trisha Paytas]

You think he's gonna do it like he used to do?

[Oscar]

I don't know. This one seemed very much like a Zela Fitness, like, promo.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think there was owns part of it.

[Oscar]

I'm sure he might an investor or something because they're friends and I know there was like a separate Zela Fitness, like, transformation on Ilia's channel, I'm assuming. Yeah. So.

[Trisha Paytas]

Which is so weird because Ilia was like. When I. I like, didn't know him a lot, but like, when I knew him, he like, lived in Chicago, had like a plumbing business that he owned and he had like this like, literally like an office space with like cubicles. I was like, how did. All of a sudden he becomes this, like, influencer with Mr. Beast and it's so weird. It is very odd. I guess David probably convinced him to come out here or something.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I just hate that he's like, friendships are the most important thing to me. I'm like, they're not though. They're literally not. That's what I'm saying.

[Oscar]

It is crazy because everyone really is expensive. Like, if any of them did say, like, we're pro Jeff, they would be out. So that's not real friendship. Like someone. If a friendship is like, dependent on you being a yes man, then is that actually friendship?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, that's all the people around him, that's literally everybody around him. They're just so excited. David's back with the vlogs and I was like a paycheck. Thank God, you know, every single one of those people. And this is like shade or not like for the past, whatever. Must have been four years, you know, those people were just so excited. Like, finally, like, David's back. We have some, like, relevant, but I just. I don't think it's ever going to be the same as like, it was in like 2019, you know what I mean?

[Oscar]

I don't think I can get to.

[Trisha Paytas]

That peak either, but I don't think he can either. Like, mainstream. Like, I don't think he'll Ever get to be Because I think he wants to come back. Because I'm sure he. To me it's like not like oh, he needs the money. Some people were saying that to me. I think it's like we've talked about this before. Celebrities, they just like want to be known, they want to be famous, you know, they want to be in the mix.

[Oscar]

I don't think David his video was monetized probably because it had the copyright music so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh. So yeah, I don't think he had.

[Oscar]

Two copyright dog days are over in that other song. And I remember back in the day like he wouldn't care like he would use songs if he felt like the vlog needed it. Cuz artist.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I think he just wants to be back in the mix and you know like he. His dream like used to be like to host a like talk show like Jimmy Fallon or something. And I'm just like I don't think he'll ever reach that.

[Oscar]

I don't think he can with what has gone on again. Like a James Charles. Like obviously James very popular but. And also I mean he is at a lot of events though. He is like a lot of carpets and stuff that James Charles. But like when you think about. Yeah like not like he's clapping with Kylie Jenner now, you know, So I.

[Trisha Paytas]

I can't see that for David it just doesn't mix. It's very. Not to like compare it again. Right. But it's like, it's just very like dated. Like when I was watching the vlogs it just felt very like outdated and stuff like that. And like there will be always a core group of fans. Obviously probably has like what a million or 2 million views. But I don't think it'll be what vlogs used to get. Like 7 million.

[Oscar]

He said a lot. Like I see I probably more.

[Trisha Paytas]

Shane used to get like 60 million. Like some. That's crazy to me. Like 60 million views at one point is wild.

[Oscar]

It does have 3 million views. His new one.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I mean I just, I don't know.

[Oscar]

His like biggest one would get like 40 million and in the 30s for the. A lot of them. Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

But that's actually kind of crazy because when you go to like Shane's channel he gets like 60, 70 like million on a lot of his big ones.

[Oscar]

But also David's like upload was a lot more frequent. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my God. I just can't even imagine.

[Oscar]

That is crazy weird start to the year. That is for sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. Oh my God. David's coming comeback was not my prediction, but he needs to just. You know what? My. My little advice is just to be careful what you put out there. David. I just have a feeling it's just, like, not gonna go well. Like, I literally felt like a pit in my stomach again. And not for me. I, like, don't care. I'm like, so far removed, whatever. But I was just like, there's like a. There's. There's something like just again the predictions and we talked about this Monday before I even knew, like, people just predicting, like, you know, David Dobrik goes to jail or like, just something like all these, like, dark predictions about him before he even did a couple comeback. I was like, he just needs to be very, very careful. I think he's just, like, not learned lessons, which is like the scariest part of it all. Because it's like, I don't wish it because in order for that, like, happening again, that means, like, someone else is in danger. You know what I mean? So it's like, obviously I don't wish that, but it's like, oh, I just feel with, like this rush again of his comeback and everything. Like, he feels untouchable. Okay, now I'm fit. Now I'm this. Because it does. When people lose weight, they seem to be like, now people respect me more or something. And it's like, it probably is true. I mean, there's probably a lot of people that's like, oh, I respect that. But a lot of people are just so excited because it's mixed. On TikTok too. I saw comments. A lot of people like, we don't want this. What the. Like, we don't. But then there was a lot like, yay. I don't care what people say. Like, YouTube's been boring. Like, Ms. David. So it's definitely divided. And I definitely don't. I don't disagree that YouTube is, like, somewhat boring, but I don't think the David vlogs are my excitement back. I did not sit through all of it because I wanted to, like, really watch for this. But never again. I'll just get the spill Sashcliffe notes.

[Oscar]

Know I only I could scroll through and that's it because it literally just made me very uncomfortable. Again, just knowing real life people whose lives have been altered forever, like, again, not a problematic joke or bad take. Well, yes. And I guess in addition to. Yes. In addition to just people who the, like, Jeff literally had seizures over, like, a couple months ago over anticipating the eye surgery that he's going to get yet, yeah, he has a seizure in the middle of the night and he's like very alpha male. So I feel like he doesn't even get fully get into the trauma and the psychology of what he has to endure. But just the snippets that he does reveal. It's like, how. How could I ever look at David the same? Like, I just.

[Trisha Paytas]

And for other people, like, Jeff let it go. Like, oh my God, get over it. Like, how can you. Especially now with like this. I would be more than ever so pissed. I would think it because I know he has the copy. I'm like, just leak it. Like, oh, at this point. You know what I mean? Like, just literally, like, well, actually implore Casey more to release it because I guess if he leaks it, he could get in trouble. But like, Casey, Casey. I think at this point, like, just release it. But there was speculation, of course it's just speculation. Is that David maybe paid Casey some money to like not release.

[Oscar]

Odd timing, right? Because yeah, he did that interview like a month or so ago that the Jeff interview randomly, that one clip leak leaked. But literally every. If you look up reviews from south by Southwest, whatever year that came out, like 2022 or whatever, everything says how badly David comes across. Very no real self awareness, pointing the fingers at everyone else. Like, no accountability. Can.

[Trisha Paytas]

You can't buy. I'd buy it. I would buy it. I'd like, watch. At this point, I think Casey should just put on voodoo. Can you do that?

[Oscar]

He probably. He really should. Honestly, it's. I mean, it's his. Like, he has no investment sisters. Like, it's all. He owns it and can do whatever.

[Trisha Paytas]

He wants it then too, if he doesn't release literally.

[Oscar]

And I didn't care when I didn't think Dave was coming, but now that he came back and everyone's like, oh, it's just drama. Whatever.

[Trisha Paytas]

I hate that because I think you could say that about like almost literally anybody else. But it's like David, I mean, really, truly, when you think about it. I don't know if there is a creator that did anything like, worse that like, like literally almost killed somebody and was just like, oh, it's not my fault, it's his fault.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I feel like that's even worse than like the Beast games of it all. Like, I mean, that one lady did allegedly have like the brain trauma too. So that is kind of equal, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

But like Jimmy being directly involved with that. Probably not. It's probably like poor production or whatever. I mean, still, his name's on It. And it's like he should oversee it. But David being directly involved, driving it, doing it, but then saying it was your idea, you drove it, you did this like, crazy. That, to me, is like, the crazy. Because, like, truly, there's never been anyone like that. Like, that's like, done something so serious and just been like, oops, we're back. It's the drama. We're over the drama. It's like, that's why.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Real life victims who are still trying to live their lives and your.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, a lot of them. And then one of them being your friend, too, was.

[Oscar]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Crazy. And then Jeff has made it look like the crazy one. Like, people reply like, let it go. Like, whatever. I don't know. David being back is definitely not good. I don't think it's good for David either. Is like, yolanda, stay in prison. David, go back to Snapchat. Like, it's better for you. You know what I mean? I think it just. I'm saying that with so much sincerity. You know, it's just like. And you have all the money and sound was paying you and just like, just stay there or at least grow.

[Oscar]

Like, literally, if he came back and, like, showed some growth, I would have. This would be a totally different conversation because I'd be like, well, at least he's. But it's the same.

[Trisha Paytas]

Same thing, same jokes. Do it.

[Oscar]

Same jokes, same cars. Like, like, not even a different. Like, it's literally still the white Tesla that he's given everyone.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's. That was wild and like, yeah, that was crazy.

[Oscar]

Like, it's literally the same. The same joke, same sense of humor. The only thing different about him is he has abs.

[Trisha Paytas]

He has abs and someone's filming him now. He's not the main camera guy.

[Oscar]

Yeah, he has abs and that's it. And he added an extra 10 minutes.

[Trisha Paytas]

And that's other than my growth.

[Oscar]

Same cast. Same cast and crew. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, actually so true.

[Oscar]

It's so insane.

[Trisha Paytas]

And also, like, a bit like a settlement with Jeff would be also, like, a huge thing. Like giving someone someone money. Like, just being like, here's like $30 million out of this lawsuit. Like, that would be a big thing too.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Show something to. But to drag it out is so such, like, dubious rich people behavior. That's what people do when they want to, like, just, like, bury someone. They're like, well, we have money and we're just gonna drag it out till they have no money and they get.

[Darian]

Didn't even want that much. Just to cover the medical bills.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's.

[Darian]

He was just a good friend to begin with. None of this would have been an issue.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, ma'am. I hate it. I hate it so much. But all right, well, there's. There's that. That's how we're ending this week.

[Oscar]

Pandora's box has been opened.

[Trisha Paytas]

Let me shut it. How do we shut it?

[Oscar]

I know. How do we close that door? I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Look up your Greek mythology. You have to know someone, somewhere. They're the one to, like, shut it down.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

We need to figure out Pegasus, come stomp on it.

[Oscar]

We like. And that's. I was thinking, too. I was like, how? Like, who was the squad? The Avengers that we assemble to take this down? Right? Because I'm like, he has Mr. Beast. He has Olivia Jade. He's got Alicia, Remy. I feel like his. The pro David side is just so big. And then now we're the freaking underdogs. It's like, it's us, Rosanna, Tana and Jeff, like, the ragtag group.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why do we always look like crazy ones? That we're the ones speaking, like, the most. I know, I know.

[Oscar]

And then everything shifted.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like I always say, it can't come down to us. It's like something else has to happen, which is so unfortunate because it's like.

[Oscar]

I've been speaking not enough.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And it's like something else bigger always has to happen. Like, Trisha's been saying this, Jess been saying this. And, like, I don't want to say I told you so like, a fourth time.

[Oscar]

And then, like, then the freaking commentary bros are going to come around. The D'Angelos, the other ones.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you think they'll comment on this?

[Oscar]

I don't know. At this point, I've literally have given up all hope. And I'm like, like, damn, I think we're just on the minority here. I think we're gonna be the only ones really clocking it. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Penguins. He seems somewhat rational. Like, he did something about Mr. Beast rationally, didn't he?

[Oscar]

Did he?

[Trisha Paytas]

Or no. I might just. Why do I think he did something that was kind of. Maybe it was the Cody Co. Something he said kind of made sense at some point.

[Oscar]

He did the Cody co after, like, D'Angelo called it out. I don't know if he ever did a Mr. B's.

[Trisha Paytas]

He seems logical.

[Oscar]

He's a lot. But I feel, like, safe. Like, I don't. I don't think he puts himself out there for what he. I Feel like he. The content he does is stuff that safe. Like, it's something that's safe to dunk on. Like, Madame Web. Remember that? Like, he did Madame Web video because everyone hates him. I think it's like when this. Like, he talked about Honey, like that scam, but he did that after everyone was hating Honey.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I see. He's gonna see where the tide goes.

[Oscar]

That's kind of the vibe I get. Like, it's like the popular, most mainstream opinion, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Yeah. Interesting.

[Oscar]

I don't know anyone who will put their neck out, besides us, to like. To like, really block it, you know, Because a lot of people, which makes sense. I know. I get everyone looks up for themselves in long term. Just kind of follows the wave, follows the views and stuff. Not a lot of people stick. It was when it was trendy to be anti dope, everyone was anti dobrik, didn't want to be associated.

[Trisha Paytas]

But now that he has abs, we're.

[Oscar]

Like, we love you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Good for him. Good to know. I guess if I'm ever in hot water, watch me. Catch me at £100. Just go away for a couple months. I'm back, y'all. I'm taking all of it. The Ozempic, the Adderall, the lipo. Zela, call him up. I'll buy the package. Whatever it was like, I'll buy it.

[Oscar]

It would be fierce.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is. That's. But we. I've always said this. I've always said this. That is the thing. All of a sudden you're skinny and.

[Oscar]

Be like, wow, wow, what a different person.

[Trisha Paytas]

What a different person. That physical change. Well, maybe. Well, maybe this will inspire him to be a better person. And maybe he'll listen to this and take some advice, and maybe he'll be like, you know what? Let's. Let's do it. Let's donate some Teslas to India. Let's settle with Jeff. Let's release the Casey documentary, and then we take accountability for this.

[Oscar]

I. That's the thing. Like, I genuinely. I don't believe that's going to happen, but I do genuinely hope that's gonna happen.

[Trisha Paytas]

We're trying to, like, be growth. Okay, Trisha, you grow. Okay, let's see.

[Oscar]

I would love. Let's root for that more than for David Dober to go again. I was his number one supporter. Like, I would love to be able to support, but as of right now, like, it just makes me genuinely very, very, very uncomfortable. And again, it doesn't. If he did it to his best friend, if he did it to a girl who was a fan. If he does it to Jonah, who's throwing himself over, like, he literally worry about Jonah. I do worry about Jonah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Does just do anything for David and I. That's scary because he's always at the scene of the dangerous ones. The motorcycle, the car. And he is definitely not a stunt person. He is definitely not, you know, like, trained in any of this. And that is, like. That is a little scary. And when you find someone that's, like, willing to do anything for you, it's, like, a little bit scary. Especially someone with David who has, like, this, like, he's, like, power hungry and is like, jonah will do it.

[Oscar]

I mean, I feel like that's the vibe of that friend group, though, is. Is they'll say anything, do anything. But I am hoping, no Todd in the vlog.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe Todd has grown. Maybe he's like, I'm not for this vlog squad. Wouldn't that be crazy if he's the one that grew and he's like, I can't anymore, David. I can't support this.

[Oscar]

That would be crazy. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

He wasn't in it. He was the only one noticeably missing.

[Oscar]

That's true. But again, I don't know. He did a cost tana at that one premiere over Jeff Wittek.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. So maybe he had some rage back then. Maybe he also tried to change. We're trying. We're trying dying. We're the year of the growth for dubious men.

[Oscar]

I hope so.

[Trisha Paytas]

I hope so. Not just transformations. I just don't care about your body transformation. I want to see growth. Put your money where your mouth. Especially someone like David. I feel like money can go, like, a long ways because people love to donate when things go awry. And we need to see more of that. And not just Tesla, like, sponsorship, whatever. You know what I mean?

[Oscar]

Like, actually, yeah, like, let's not throw a part a couple parties this year.

[Trisha Paytas]

Let's donate whatever you spent on All American Rejects.

[Oscar]

Let's just donate to wildfire victims, you know? Like, let's.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah, actually, I know. That's why I love, love seeing Full Circle Steve Gutenberg out there. I was just like, that's so cool. And the reporter didn't even know it was him. He just asked him his name. At the end of it, he's like, what was your name? He's like, steve Cooper. I love that so much. Yeah. Help each other. Let's do more of that.

[Darian]

We want to wish well to all the people that there's over a thousand structures that burned down just in Palisades, so I want to wish everyone well over there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it's. It's a really sad time right now. All right, well, thanks for watching this episode. We rallied together. I don't know. I don't know what to say.

[Oscar]

I know we did open Pandora's box, but you know what? Here at Just Trish, we will always do our best to close it and.

[Darian]

Entertain you while you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I'll sit on it. Give me that box. All right, guys, we love you, and we'll see you next week. Stay safe, everybody, including you, David Dobrik. Let's watch out for everybody a little more this year, all right? Bye.