Sep 16, 2025

Summary

Just Trish – September 16, 2025

Host: Trisha Paytas
Co-host: Oscar Gracey
Special Guest Appearance: Moses
Episode Theme:
A hilariously unfiltered dive into the latest pop culture headlines, celebrity gossip, and influencer drama—with a heavy focus on the whirlwind of the past week: co-hosting Demi Lovato's video premiere party, the 2025 Emmy Awards, influencer PR drama (especially Louis Vuitton's luxe makeup launch), and memorable stories from the world of reality TV and social media.

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Episode Overview

This week, Trisha, Oscar, and Moses deliver a vibrant, tongue-in-cheek commentary on life in the influencer fast lane. From the inside scoop on co-hosting Demi Lovato’s exclusive video premiere to Emmy Award intrigue and the viral Louis Vuitton makeup controversy, they mix pop culture analysis with personal stories, self-deprecating humor, and signature honesty. The episode is peppered with influencer anecdotes, TV talk, and spirited banter about privilege, PR lists, and authenticity—never shying away from “messy” takes.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Co-Hosting Demi Lovato's Music Video Premiere

[07:57 – 22:39]

• Getty Images Moment: Trisha and Oscar share the surreal experience of being photographed for Getty Images at Demi Lovato’s music video party, marking a first for Oscar and a candid, career-high "slay" moment for both.

  • Trisha: “I wish I could be more like that—just keep doing it until something sticks, you know?” [07:16]
  • Oscar: "Red carpet and the Getty Image photographer was grabbing us. Being like, need you guys...we didn't even hunt it down." [07:32]

• Party Vibes: The event set the tone for an iconic "girls and gays on a couch" theme, complete with cozy snacks (pickles, churros, cotton candy) and an outfit panic perfectly suited for social anxiety and influencers alike.

  • Trisha: “It was like gay house party vibes, which was kind of everything.” [14:59]
  • Oscar: “We were a mess...overthinking everything.” [15:28]
  • Moses: “Sounded like you were going to walk into a house, there’ll be a living room, and everyone sits in the living room watching a video.” [16:38]

• Fangirling Demi: Both Trisha and Oscar express genuine admiration for Demi Lovato, reflecting on growing up with her music and the emotional resonance of her openness about mental health.

  • Trisha: “Literally, I grew up with her...I have so many core memories with Demi.” [22:39]
  • Oscar: “There was something about her that just made me very...she’s very sweet, I think.” [24:35]

2. Emmy Awards Recap: Hits, Misses & Meme-able Moments

[38:08 – 56:56]

• Who Won & Who Should Have: Moses and Oscar recap the Emmys (“kind of boring, right?” [38:19]), including surprises like Drag Race’s loss and Severance dominating with breakout performances.

  • Trisha: “I was kind of gagged that Drag Race lost again.” [41:17]
  • Oscar: “What would your speech be in 45 seconds?” [46:25]
  • Memorable Quote: “Best Reactor is what acting is!” [58:59]

• Controversial Charity Bit: Debating the awkwardness of reducing Emmy-winner speeches to raise or subtract donations to the Boys & Girls Club in real-time.

  • Oscar: “They should have just kept it...if you keep it under, we’ll donate for every second a thousand dollars versus subtract. Subtracting is crazy.” [44:53]

• TV Faves & Critiques: Spirited takes on award winners, casting choices, and whether famous directors or coaches really deserve the hype.

  • Oscar: “Isn’t it easy to direct someone like Leonardo DiCaprio who’s just a good actor?” [115:10]

3. Influencer Encounters & Social Anxiety

[28:09 – 37:45]

• Networking as Millennial/Gen Z Influencers: The authentic anxiety of attending parties, wondering about the dress code, and mingling with “real” pop culture figures.
  • Oscar: “I just want to get off the phone. I don’t want to have this conversation.” [75:45]
  • Trisha: “I was mingling, which is rare for me…you kind of have to make small talk.” [28:47]

4. Louis Vuitton Makeup Launch: PR Drama & Beauty World Feuds

[137:18 – end]

• The Scandal: Influencer outrage as mega-brands send out lavish PR packages for their ultra-expensive makeup lines—some (Nikkitutorials, James Charles) get “snubbed,” others (Jackie Aina, Jeffree Star) bask in the luxury, sparking drama-war across TikTok/YouTube.

  • James Charles: “I can 100 say that this is a scam. Blah, blah.” [144:44]
  • Trisha: “There’s something kind of unchic to me about millionaires complaining about the PR list.” [143:42]
  • Oscar: “Would you spend $160 on a lipstick? If they sent it to me, I’d be like, heck yeah.” [146:37]

• Reflections on Authenticity: The hosts analyze the “bias” embedded in influencer reviews—are PR-list snubs truly more “honest,” or just bitter? When does influencer privilege go too far?

  • Trisha: “It’s just so like 2018...makeup PR package drama. Everyone’s just, like, so in it.” [137:36]
  • Trisha: “You just don’t relate to me...don't act like you can relate to my struggles.” [152:34]

• Luxury, Elitism & Consumer Guilt: Discussion on the status-symbol nature of luxury beauty, the discomfort of influencer haul videos in 2025, and how brands (and people) can do better.

  • Oscar: “Are they philanthropic? Are they feeding children anywhere that are starving?” [156:26]

5. Reality TV Rabbit Hole: 90 Day Fiancé, White Lotus, & More

[61:26 – 74:21, throughout]

• Deep Dives: Trisha and Oscar spiral into hilarious, detailed analysis of iconic 90 Day Fiancé couples and comparisons to their own romantic journeys.

  • Trisha: “I love 90 Day Fiance…as Moses does, loves The Studio.” [48:27]
  • Oscar: “Can you imagine, like, you forcing everyone to watch it? Bed on it.” [18:01]
  • Oscar: “Do you know, Nova, the concept of this is tickling me already.” [62:36]

• Pop Culture Power Rankings & Nostalgia: Who influences whom most—Mr. Beast, Cristiano Ronaldo, or Caleb Heron? Shoutouts to Hilary Duff (“pop music emergency!”) and how these stars shaped their generation.

  • Oscar: “Who are you influenced the most by right now?” [120:13]
  • Trisha: “It was a pop music emergency finding out that she assigned to Atlantic [Hilary Duff].” [94:00]
  • Both: Launching into Hilary Duff song lyrics/karaoke [96:10]

6. Social Media Relationships & Sliding Into DMs

[70:49 – 73:16]

• The Lore of DM Love: Both Trisha and Oscar detail how they met their significant others via Instagram—proving you never know what opportunity you might miss by not checking DMs.
  • Oscar: “Jimmy, your editor…we love you!” [157:41]
  • Trisha: “Sliding…yeah, Moses slid into my DMs too.” [72:30]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On PR Drama:
  Trisha Paytas, [143:42]:
  “There’s something kind of unchic to me about millionaires complaining about the PR list. Like, yeah, there’s something…I'm like, okay.”

• On Hosting Events:
  Oscar Gracey, [31:06]:
  “There was one point where we had Demi come up to introduce your video, and I think in both our heads we were like, well, we don’t want to look like we’re trying to get her shot.”

• On Celebrity Encounters:
  Trisha Paytas, [22:39]:
  “...literally, I grew up with her [Demi Lovato]...I have so many core memories with Demi. So I was, like, very gagged by the whole thing.”

• On Influencer Bias:
  Oscar, [146:10]:
  “And making it clear what, which side you’re on seems like, not fair either. It’s like you should just say, like, I’m testing out this product.”

• On “Surviving” with Annoying Exes:
  Trisha, [77:54]:
  "Like, I genuinely think I would have harmed myself...or soul crushed, at least” (on being handcuffed to James Charles for Mr. Beast’s challenge)

• On Nostalgic Pop Divas:
  Trisha & Oscar, [96:10] (Karaoke)
  “Why not…take a crazy chance?”
  “If the light is off then it isn’t on…let it go. And when you wake up, it’ll seem so yesterday.”

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Important Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | |-----------|---------------| | 07:57–22:39 | Demi Lovato Party, Getty Images story, fangirling Demi | | 38:08–56:56 | Emmy Awards breakdown, speeches, Drag Race, TV talk | | 61:26–74:21 | 90 Day Fiancé, reality TV, relationships via DMs | | 137:18–end | Louis Vuitton makeup drama, influencer PR bias, Jeffree v. James/Nikki | | 94:00–98:23 | Hilary Duff's music comeback, nostalgia deep dive | | 133:10–136:01 | Fashion, body image in Hollywood & White Lotus "representation" jokes |

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Recurring Themes & Tone

• Unfiltered Honesty: The hosts never shy away from saying exactly what they think, often poking fun at themselves and others in the influencer world (“I haven’t slept, so…” [79:15])
• Pop Culture “Insider Baseball”: The episode leans into the niche-ness of influencer complaints, PR pettiness, and fandom quirks, serving up both shade and love for their social milieu.
• Relatability, with a Wink: While discussing luxury, privilege, and anxieties, they maintain a tone that’s self-aware and slyly critical of the culture they inhabit.

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Final Thoughts

This jam-packed episode is a time capsule of current influencer and celebrity discourse: wildly entertaining, a little bit messy, and somehow both self-mocking and sincere. From celebrity parties to beauty PR wars and internet romances, Trisha, Oscar, and Moses create an engaging conversational rollercoaster that’s hilarious, gossipy, and sometimes surprisingly warm.

Memorable Closing:
Oscar, [158:39]:
“I’m giving gratitude. And Jimmy too. I never met—never seen an editor get so many compliments and comments in a section. Jimmy really is the fourth co-host!”

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For those who missed the episode:
If you want to understand what’s making TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube drama tick in September 2025—or just want some unserious, cathartic pop culture chat—this is one to catch up on!

Transcript

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Oscar]

First of all, better than me though would never take a phone call from Mr. Beeson's like, Hey, I want to call you.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, not James Charles Harry Jowsey. I could probably do it because I feel he doesn't have a personality. So that's not that bad. Sorry. Weird. Of like Nikki and James. Simply that anyone who liked it is just because they were bought off, you know, like I. Because I don't think that's the.

[Oscar]

No, I'm sure. I'm sure it's a great lipstick, you know. Her name is Trish. She's got the dish and all the gossips. Filthy rich Hot topic queen and says what everybody thinks. She's just Trish. Yay. Hello. Welcome back to the Just Trish podcast. It's going to be a great day with a slight chance of rain and hitting highs in 74. I feel like a weather prison today and I love it. I think that's my next career move. Maybe. Do you have to go to school?

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel like you've done weather a meteorologist job before.

[Oscar]

No, definitely with Al Roker.

[Trisha Paytas]

I did.

[Oscar]

One time I wore a green dress to the green screen.

[Trisha Paytas]

As a Tristorian, I knew somewhere in my mind I had a vision of you in front of the, like, meteorology weather report thing.

[Oscar]

Yes. Wow. You are.

[Trisha Paytas]

I am a Tristorian.

[Oscar]

Yes. I love that. By the way, Tristorian is iconic and you're iconic. We're iconic. We're on Getty Images this week. Check out Getty Images. And before we do that, check out Jess. Trish. We have blankets, we have tote bags and mugs galore. I was just in the garage with my mom this past week and I was like, you know what? These blankets are kind of everything. So I was like, can you pull one for me? Because I do use this every single day, don't I? I cuddle up with it. You should just always take a video or picture of me every time I use this blanket. Cause that's every single day. It's warm, it's cozy. It makes a great gift for the holiday season's coming up. We also have this amazing fur tote and I love this too. Both me and my mom use this all the time. There's so much on there. Go to justchurch.com I forgot to talk about it, but it's great and we love it.

[Moses]

Hats, too.

[Oscar]

Oh, we have. Yes, there's hats there. There's so much. So get it before they're gone, because once we get new styles in for Black Friday, we probably will stop selling these styles. So get them while they're hot. Also, go to patreon. Patreon.com just trish. We work hard over there as well. We do bonus episodes for you guys every Wednesday, and then we do a additional video for you guys on the weekend, me and Oscar. So we just work overtime over there. And we love it. It's so much fun. So there's always a new headshot. The headshot I just sent out last week. So we don't have that one. I have to take a new headshot next week.

[Moses]

You missed it again.

[Oscar]

You missed it again. Sorry.

[Moses]

But, guys, come on.

[Oscar]

Sign up before the 10th of each month to get it delivered on or before the 20th. We ship them out on the 15th. So I was sending them all day yesterday. Those were a lot of fun. And we're having a lot of fun. Okay. My co host of life, really. Now we're just a duo. Officially. We went out together this weekend. Oscar. Gracie.

[Trisha Paytas]

Trisha, Kay. Peda.

[Oscar]

Oh, the K is what? What's your Harry?

[Trisha Paytas]

Is Harry my middle name? It's definitely not Harry.

[Oscar]

What is it? There is someone I know that has a middle name, Harry, and I don't know who it is.

[Trisha Paytas]

Jowsey.

[Oscar]

No, not him.

[Trisha Paytas]

Brandon. Oscar.

[Oscar]

You look like a Brandon, actually. Okay, I see that more than Oscar. Oscar is. Oscar is interesting. It's like, I think of, like. Who do you think of anything of? Oscar? Quick.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess the baloney is the first person I think of.

[Oscar]

I think Oscar the Grouch.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, Oscar.

[Oscar]

What do you think of Oscar?

[Moses]

I think about the statue.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh.

[Oscar]

Oh, that's so crazy. We all think of different Oscars. Yeah. You don't seem like an Oscar. You seem like a Brandon. Well, maybe you seem like an Oscar. I guess that's a mean thing to say since that's your name, but you look like a Brandon. When he said that, I was like, ooh, Brandon.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. When I was younger, I wanted to be Brandon. Actually, when I was, like, in middle, like, elementary school.

[Oscar]

And you didn't go buy it?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, no. I think I just wanted to be whiter when I was a kid, which is kind of sad but kind of funny also. But Brandon.

[Oscar]

Yes. Okay. Yeah, right. Brandon. Is a. What do they name? Where was that name from?

[Trisha Paytas]

I honestly have no idea. I'm named after my dad. My first name, Oscar and Brandon. You don't know where Brandon. I have no.

[Oscar]

It does sound Irish. No Irish in you?

[Trisha Paytas]

No.

[Oscar]

A little. Maybe.

[Trisha Paytas]

I've never done one of those ancestry things because Gracie is also. Can be an Irish last name as well. So.

[Oscar]

Wait, that. So you're two thirds Irish without me?

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe. But my dad is like. His whole family is from Peru. He's like, yeah, his family's native Peru. They're like Incan.

[Oscar]

So maybe an Irish person maybe over there. I don't know. Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know.

[Oscar]

Interesting. And then your mom is Cuban. 100.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Okay. All right. I know. I don't want to take one either. Because, like, what if, you know, what if you find out something? You know what I mean? Just like, I don't know, what if I find out, like, your dad's not your dad or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. Well, I'm always gagged by conspiracy, I guess. But like the. When they keep the genealogy and like, you know, they keep it in a database, I'm like, okay, wait, what do you mean? When you do one of those, they like, they can keep it in the database and then if anyone in your family does a crime, they can like go in and then build a family tree based off whoever did a genealogy tests like 10 years ago.

[Oscar]

Wait, why would they do that?

[Trisha Paytas]

To solve crimes.

[Oscar]

Oh, just. So.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

You meant someone could kill someone and take your identity and then have your family.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, no, but that is a twist. Maybe the White Lotus. Yeah. From slaying people to slaying Getty Images.

[Oscar]

Yeah, that's where we were going. We are. Is that your first.

[Trisha Paytas]

I saw someone say it was your first Getty image. Yeah. No. Yeah.

[Oscar]

How is that possible? Because I saw someone say that. I'm like, but you've been to more than anyone.

[Trisha Paytas]

I never.

[Oscar]

I mean, you don't walk it.

[Trisha Paytas]

No. Every time I've done one, like, to cover. A lot of the hosts do do that to me. It's kind of embarrassing. Just. It's a me thing, though. It's not like for everybody. It's just for me, it's like, well, no one really cares about. You know what I mean? So it's like, why is Oscar from EC gonna go pose in the carpet? Just because, you know, the photographers are there. To me, it's embarrassing.

[Oscar]

Can I tell you? Same. Same. Honestly, same. Because it is like, you know, when people show the behind the Scenes and like no one's taking pictures and you're just standing there like that. Like, we got there super early to wicket. The only time I ever did red carpet was Wicked. And it is embarrassing because so many of them don't know and you could be like so famous and like, or so like online present and they have no idea. Like, yeah, it wasn't that many for me at Wicked at the time we went like, it maybe was like, well, we saw. I think I have one yeti image up there. You know what I mean? Like it is. And like it shouldn't be embarrassing, but like it is in a way because it's like, why, why am I posing here? Like, you want to take my picture, you know, but slay to the people who can do it. Because honestly, literally slay to. You know, you know, you want to feel. You want to feel good. I love the people too who do it. And no one snaps a picture and they still pose.

[Trisha Paytas]

You got to fake it.

[Oscar]

So you get.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is the you. The people who don't get that embarrassment or shame, they end up going far because you got to just keep doing it until something sticks, you know? So I shout out to. I wish I could be more like that, but I can't. I, yeah, I get too embarrassed.

[Oscar]

This one was more like candid Getty image. It wasn't a study.

[Trisha Paytas]

Red carpet and the Getty Image photographer was grabbing us. Being like, need you guys. Like, we didn't even hunt it down. She was just like, I need you guys to take a photo with Demi.

[Oscar]

I'm like, okay, that's the best. That's the best when someone says that. So then you don't have to be like, can I get a. You know what I mean? Bothering. It was, it was amazing. We did good. I looked right away, I was like, where is it? Where is it? And we did good.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, we kind of ate.

[Oscar]

I like the pictures. They turned out. You know, we had Demi Lovato on the podcast last week, which is so crazy. Then we're co hosting her video premiere music video premiere. Which is also crazy because we're in. It's like a party. It's like, yeah, there's like an event. Really? And it's like all these just fabulous good looking girls, gays, influence. Like just everybody just. We know a lot of people, A lot of people knew you. Everyone was like, shout out. Tetris from Billboard was like, I know Oscar. And also, also I will say like love all influencers. And like you said fake it so you make it. But I love the ones who are so legit and are so humble. Because when I met Tetra, she's just like, yeah, I work at Billboard. Like, just thinking, I don't know, like, working on articles or something. Like, literally the face of Billbo Board at every event. Like, with every single person. Like, he's, like, so out there and, like, living the dream life. And I was just like, okay, humble King. Because he literally just did something. Oh, I know Oscar and I work for Billboard. We should do something together. And I was like, yeah. And then I looked at his Instagram. I was like, oh, my God. But so many people were like that. I looked them up later, and I was like, oh, they should have told me. Like, they're like. And we saw Coco Mocha, which I love. Met Pop Crave.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you meet Pop Crave? Not. I saw him as we were leaving, but I've met him before.

[Oscar]

Oh, you did?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

I didn't know. They're, like, anonymous. They don't ever show themselves.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, well, there's pop. It's Pop Crime is funny because there is, like, multiple. Yeah, yeah. There's multiple people with the access, but I think he is the. Yes, yes.

[Oscar]

There's two of them that started. And I was like, wow. And we actually did take a picture, but I think they were cropped out of it because they like to be. Which is crazy because they look like really cool influencers or celebrities or something. Like, I saw them and I was like, they look like somebody. You know what I mean? And they are. But they just keep themselves anonymous. And I'm like, why don't you show yourselves? Because you're so cool. But I guess it takes away the. I guess the overall appeal, the general appeal. Maybe if you see the person, maybe it becomes more about them.

[Trisha Paytas]

The person versus. Yeah. Yeah, I agree.

[Oscar]

So that was really cool. I was starstruck by everybody.

[Trisha Paytas]

Me, too. And for context, you. We didn't even really know for sure it was going to happen. Yeah, because I think you said that they wanted us to say, like, a couple of weeks ago. And it was something. I was like, so much stuff doesn't end up coming to fruition. So I'm like, okay, yeah. Like, I'll process it when I have to. But this really was, like. I feel like not 100% locked in until, what, like, the day before?

[Oscar]

Yeah, I didn't know either. And those. Yeah, the things changed so much. And, you know, parties change or who they want to do it or what they're doing changes. So Much so we didn't know we were so. And, yeah, I think even before we even thought or, like, Demi was even an option to be a guest because obviously we, like, love her. And they were like, oh, do you want to, like, host a Demi Lovato thing? And I was like, oh, yeah. And I was. I was kind of the same way. I was kind of, like, waiting to be like, okay, is this gonna happen? Because I don't want to get our hopes up. You know what I mean? And then when we got Demi on the podcast, I was like, oh, my God, that's so cool. We got to, like, meet her. And then it could have gone one or two ways. Like, does she still want us to host?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Or she's like, maybe not, you know, so that. And then it was cool that they're like, yeah, she still wants to come. And we're like, oh, my God, that's so cool. So, yeah, I know. It's cool. That's anything anymore. I really try not to talk about until, like, it happens. It's announced. I'm there. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Because the getting images are up. Because that has happened a lot.

[Oscar]

And then one time, I remember the Wicked screening. I had said, oh, the getty image is up. Can we post it? And they took the, like, no, they're still down. They never went back up. I was like, I shouldn't have said anything. So, yeah, it was wild. We premiered Demi Lovato's new music video here All Night, which is. We were all saying, it's, like, so good.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's really good. The song is really good, genuinely. Yeah.

[Oscar]

The vocals are, like, amazing. Like, it's actually just so catchy production.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. It has been in my head since we heard it before she came. Like, when we just heard the little. What was it, like, the sneak preview or whatever in my head. And then finally being able to, like, stream it has been so fun because.

[Oscar]

I'm like, it's so cool. I know. And Hannah Davis was there, who's the director, who's directed, like, so many iconic music videos. And on the way there, we were just, like, listening to all the songs, and it was just, like, so fun.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's done so. I mean, she's done a lot of, like, iconic Demi videos to, like, cool for the summer, but she's done, like, seven rings. Thank you. Next. Like, Hannah looks. And also she was so, like, she's worked with every, like, a list celebrity, but then still was, like, so chill. She just came, like crazy and gave you.

[Oscar]

No, she Literally was like, so nice to meet you. I was like, so nice to meet you. And she's been like, obviously, yes. Doing all these music videos. And we used to have the same hairdresser, so I used to hear so much about her and, like, how cool. And I followed her on Instagram, like, oh, she's going to Disneyland with her, like, kids. I don't know. Something about her was just so cool. Both of her. Both her and Demi people are just very humble.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And also the. I feel like it was so camp when the whole theme, the whole vibe was gays and girls sitting on the couch watching music videos. That was the theme of the party. And then it was a whole back and forth of, like, what do we wear? Because immediately when you first told me, I was like, oh, is it going to be, like, at a gay, like, venue or something? I'm gonna have to serve. So I was already. Yes.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I was a little anxious over that. And then when it seemed like it was gonna happen, I was like, okay, I need an outfit. I need to serve. And it was, like, three days in advance. So I bought these, like, bougie crystal pants that I have since returned. But wait, why?

[Oscar]

That's so good on you.

[Trisha Paytas]

They're so expensive that I can't. Yeah. I was like, I can't do this.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. But. And then after I already got those pants, which were, like, such a pain. Like, it was like, I had to find them in stock. I had to be in my size. I had to be somewhere that was in LA because they couldn't ship in time. So it was a whole ordeal.

[Oscar]

It is hard when you don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Oscar]

I was the same way. I was just thinking, like, I wanted to, like, search. I even saved a dress. I ended up wearing it for, like, a bloom picture. But, like, I would say that dress because I was like, it was actually the Chapel Roan dress that I was gonna wear if we interviewed Chapel Roan, but it was Chapel Roan at Olivia Rodrigo. Yes, yes. With the flowers and stuff. And I had that made forever ago. It finally fits again now that I'm not pregnant. I was gonna wear that. I was like, ooh, let me. Because I was gonna wear it last week for Hot Topics. I was like, let me save it in case the Demi party happens. But then they were like, I know. I was. I was so stressed about it because you don't want to come overdress. You don't want to go underdress. What is worse, underdressed or overdressed?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think under.

[Oscar]

No, but there were some people that were in, like, pajamas. Like, I thought this was, like, you know, we're literally sitting on a couch watching music videos. So it was like, it could have gone either way. Demi had it, right. She had the little slip nighty. And I was like, oh, that's what I should have probably.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because when you did inquire about, like, what the dress code was, they did say, like, cute, casual with. With a hint of see you next Tuesday.

[Oscar]

Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then we were, like, analyzing. Okay, but what does that mean? What is casual with, like, a hint of.

[Oscar]

I know. Okay, we gotta look that. Mine definitely wasn't. When I looked at the getty images, I definitely was, like, underdressed. That's why I brought the Birkin. I was like, well, that kind of dresses it up a little. But I. You had it, right? You wear jeans. But in my head, I was thinking, like, okay. I didn't know how we were presenting. I'm like, are we like. You know, my thing here is, like, when I wear jeans, I always think I look so cute when I stand up. Then when I sit down, I can. Whatever. So I was like, okay. Are we, like, sitting on a couch? Like, premiering?

[Trisha Paytas]

Standing?

[Oscar]

Yeah. So I think if I knew where I was standing, maybe I would have gone with. Maybe I would have worn the sparkle jeans, too, that I wore when Demi was here, you know, with something. But maybe that would have been too much. I don't know, because she. She had it so right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And everything was just so vague, too. Like, we didn't know how big or small it was going to be. So when we got there, it was kind of like how Gay house party vibes, which was kind of everything. Yeah, but that was the other thing, too. It was like every. We were kind of nervous because it was like, you wanted. Darian wanted to come. Yeah, we were. First of all, we're the only two who are stressed out. Everyone else was so calm and relaxed, but it's too. With social anxiety, like, having to plan something is crazy.

[Oscar]

I was next.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's crazy. We were a mess.

[Oscar]

Thank God. I went to an event the week before, so I got a little bit out of my system, but same. I was literally like, we're overthinking everything. I know. I was. I wish you did not loveline that day when we were texting, because I was just like. And you texted me. You're like, hey, can Darian come? And, like, instantly, I'm just, like, panicked. I'm like, I don't know, I don't know the rules. Is it Demi's event? Is it. Is it like a. Is it. Is it an event with her label? Like, who do I ask? Do I ask her to ask her label? Do I ask, like, my agent? Like, who do I ask? So I was freaking out because Moses is so funny, because the night before we were talking about it, and I got really stressed with Moses because, you know, obviously I love him. I want him to come with me to everything, you know, for multiple reasons, obviously. But I feel, like, safe with most of. But it was very advertised like girls, gays. So I was like, is it just a small. Like, we're going to all be in bed together watching a music and then Moses. You know what I mean? So I was like, no, you can't come. It's, you know, I don't want to ask. So I was. Then when you did, I was like. I didn't want to be like, no. I said, well, okay, if I'm going to ask, I'm going to ask for you. I was like, let me. Maybe I can just throw in Moses there too. And then, of course, they're like, of course. Yeah. You know, they were like, literally, like, didn't think twice of it. But I was so stressed because I'm like, I don't know the etiquette in general at a party. Do you bring plus? Like, sometimes weddings, they don't want you to bring a plus one. They just want you, you know, and same thing with this. We just didn't know what the vibes were. And so I was like, first it.

[Moses]

Sounded like you're going to walk into a house, there'll be a living room, and everyone sits in the living room watching a video.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Moses]

It didn't sound like it's gonna be like this huge court with a big inflatable screen.

[Oscar]

To me, it felt more of a party. Like you were thinking, like, it's more low key. When I got there, I was kind of like, oh, I should have been a little more. Because I was thinking a little too casual. I think that it was just like at her house, chilling. Yeah, it was not in my house either. I saw a lot of comments saying, is this at Church's house? Which.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I guess host like, yeah.

[Oscar]

Right. And it is outside. I would have it outside in the thing. So it would. That would have been everything. No, it was. They had. But it did feel like a Trish party, for sure. They had, like, cotton candy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Churro, a lot of pickles, which is very tanner coated. There was pickles.

[Oscar]

Yeah. A lot of Jimmy John's. I met the Jimmy John's people. They were very nice. Yeah, they had really good. They had, like, these mocktails, which we love. They had a little, like, mango. They were so good. And they had a photo booth, and they had quesadillas. And. Yeah, we were just. Oh, goodie bags. Yeah, really nice goodie bags. They had, like, a leopard one that everyone was carrying. I was like, where's everyone in the bag? Like, the goodie bags, they had one that had Demi's, like, logo on there. It was cool. So, yeah, we had to host. And it was a music video party, which was really fun. And they're like, okay, pick your favorite music videos. And the first one we played was Mind Bet on it, which the TikToks were wild. And I think some people thought, like, I picked my own.

[Trisha Paytas]

Can you imagine, like, you forcing everyone to watch it? Bed on it.

[Moses]

That's.

[Oscar]

I think when it came across that.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was a little worried.

[Oscar]

And no, they were like, you know, be fun. If you played one of your.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're being too humble. Because Demi specifically requested either bet on it or I love you, Jesus to play. Because everyone got to come and, like, the whole thing is all the guests got to, like, pick their favorite music video to play to be added to the playlist.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And Demi specifically requested Bet on It or I love you, Jesus.

[Oscar]

I can't say no. But I was like, you know, knowing people are watching you watch the video, you're like, do I. I think I was hyping myself up too much for someone who, like, Trisha's their own hype man. And I was like, but it's better than me standing there and being like, yeah. You know, Because Demi was right there. She. We were, like, right there, and she was, like, smiling. I was like, I love living for it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

So then I was like, okay, let me be into it too. Because truly, you guys know I'm, like, not humble when it comes to stuff. Like, I do love my own music videos. I watch them. You probably hear me watch. I watch them all the time. I'm always watching my own music videos. I think I'm so good at all of them. So I do love watching.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. It just Rolling Stone, Billboard, and Demi Lovato, Adela Kim, Petras are in the crowd. Hannah Lux Davis. It makes it a little different.

[Oscar]

Yes. Hannah Lux Davis, who is the music video director of our generation. Demi Lovato, like, Disney Channel Queen. I was like, oh, my God, this is. Yeah. It was, you know. But hey, thank you so much to Kickoff for sponsoring today's episode of Just Trish. All right. You know, I've talked about this plenty of times. In my 20s, my credit went down, down, down, which resulted in me not getting a lot of life perks. The adult perks. Buying a home, getting a nice car payment. With Kickoff, you can start building your credit with on time payments. My credit went down not because I couldn't afford it, but because I forgot to. Those payments. Danny, check in. Did I not put it on automatic withdrawal? Well, with Kickoff, it has you covered. It's easy to get started. Kickoff gives you a credit line just for credit building and reports it to the three major credit bureaus. Kickoff helps you quickly improve the key factors that determine your credit. Factor one, your new account immediately diversifies your credit mix. Factor two, each on time, monthly Kickoff payment builds payment history. And factor three, because your monthly payments are so small, your credit utilization, the amount of credit you're actually using, gets healthier faster. And let me tell you, they want to see credit. Okay. Sometimes you might be like, I don't even have a credit card. I don't need credit. I have no credit at all. Well, that can also be bad because they want to see that you can spend and make those payments on time. That's what they look for when you're looking to get a big loan or make a big purchase and get your best interest. They want to see that you are responsible. And Kickoff helps you do just that. So let's be honest. When your credit's not in great shape, it can feel like the whole system is working against you. You can be smart with your money, pay your bills, do everything right and still get penalized. In fact, drivers with low credit end up paying 118% more for full coverage auto insurance than those with excellent credit. But that's where Kickoff comes in. It's a SM smarter, faster way to start building real credit without the usual headaches. I know when I met my husband, he had a perfect credit score, which honestly was just. I don't even care how much money you have in your bank account. I don't know what you own, I don't know what you do, but you have perfect credit. Okay, big green flag. Kickoff is easy to sign up and it's easy to get started. You see a change in your credit and you can see it quickly. There's also a rent reporting feature. You can build credit with the rent you're already paying. Kickoff delivers real results for real users. Users with credit under 600 grew an average of 84 points in their first year with on time payments. With transparent, affordable plans Starting at just $5 a month, no hidden fees and zero interest, Kickoff helps you score big when it comes to credit. It's simple. You make on time payments, credit bureauc good behavior and your credit can grow fast. It's affordable, easy and effective. Kickoff can start building credit immediately for only $1 for your first month. Autopay helps you build credit while you sleep and never worry about missing a payment. Sign up in minutes from your phone, no credit. Check and cancel at any time. Kickoff is a safe and trusted credit Solution with over 1 million users and hundreds of thousands of positive reviews. There's a reason why Kickoff is the number one credit builder on the app. So start building credit with Kickoff today and you can get your first month for as little as $1. That's 80% off the normal price. When you go to getkickoff.com trish today, that's kickoff without the C. Get K I k o f f.com Trish must sign up via getkickoff.com Trish to activate offer offer applies to new kickoff customers. First month only, subject to approval. Offer subject to change average 1st year credit score impact of plus 84 points Vantage score 3.0 between January 2023 and January 2024 for kickoff credit account users who started with a score below 600, who paid on time and who had no delinquencies or to their credit profile during the period. Late payments may negatively impact your credit score. Individual results may vary. Thank you so much to Kickoff for sponsoring today's episode. People. People liked it, I think. I don't know. I was really just looking at the screen because I was just like, I don't know, I don't know what I'm doing. But oh my God, it's fun. It's fun. And yeah, it was. It was good. And then we, yeah, we got to play some other music videos. We got to watch Demi's videos. You knew every single word to all of Demi's videos.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, I genuinely, like, have grown up with her music. That's why the whole thing. I was like, very gagged by the whole process with Demi too, because even when she was here, I didn't know I was going to be part of the interview. But it was fun because it was grouped. The whole vibe is girl and gay. So I am the gay. So that was fun. It was a role I was born to play. So I was very excited about that. But I Just wasn't, like, mentally prepared to, like, chat with her, you know, and every. I'm just so gagged by her because literally, I grew up with her. Like, I remember as the bell rings, that was like, it was the interstitial during commercial break. It was, like, a little, like, series, but it wasn't even the real show. I remember her YouTube videos with Selena. Like, I remember watching them in computer class. I remember going home to watch Camp Rock the day premiered. I remember all her albums. Like, I have a core memories, like, every one of her albums. I remember, like, being in my room pretending to film music videos. So I really don't care that one song she has with Cher Lloyd. Like, I have so many core memories with Demi. So I was, like, very gagged by the whole thing. Even, like, when we walked in and Demi was just, like, right in the kitchen right away. She's like, hey, how are you? I'm like, like, it's so fierce.

[Oscar]

I love pickles. Like, I just. I had a big. I had a big pickle in my hand, and I just taken a bite, and I'm chewing pickle and juice, and she's right there. Moses, I think, at one point, like, takes the pickle from me because I'm just, like, standing there holding this pickle. I'm like, I love the pickles because we had just. We had just walked in, the first thing we see is the pickles. And I was like, oh, this is cute. Like, let me do one for tick tock. You know what I mean? And I was just like, yeah. And seeing.

[Moses]

I feel bad for you because I know how much you don't like pickles.

[Oscar]

Well, look at the thing.

[Moses]

I was like, oh, my God, the pickles. I was like, just give me the pickle.

[Oscar]

Asked me to take the pickle.

[Moses]

I just was, like, the first thing we see.

[Oscar]

Well, because first of all, the pickle. I love a giant pickle. You know what I mean? I don't like to necessarily eat them, but, you know, like, I love the aesthetic of one Anna Nicole Snooki. Like, I love the idea of, like, Tana Pamela has pickles now. Like, so I was like, okay, I'm gonna try.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God, you're so right.

[Oscar]

Yeah, so I. I really did. And then, yeah, like, turn around, and she's, like, right there. And, like, just so sweet. Like, society, everyone. She's, like, so nice. And, yeah, sewing a pickle. Yeah. It's. We are, like, different generation. But I do know Demi obviously being, like, iconic for her, like, music after I Like, first found out about, like, new came to know of her, obviously, X Factor. But then, like, just, like, hearing her, like, actual, like, sing, I was like, oh, she's like an actual good singer. And seven and she is, like, superstar. I mean, she's just, what. Whatever you know her from, whether it's like, memes or her TV shows or her songs or, you know, whatever. Just her life, you know, I'm being open. And documentaries, all stuff. It is like a superstar and you, like. And when you're in her presence, it does feel that way. So I also was very nervous, and I think I kept saying. I kept saying that to Moses after I said it to you. I was like. I was, like, weirdly, like, nervous. Like, I just. Even people I followed for, like, forever, a long time, it's like. I don't know. There was something about her that just made me very. She's very sweet, I think. Just, like, so sweet and so nice so that I'm just, like, sweating. And I was just. But I think it went well. I really. I really liked her. She was just very cool in there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, they're, like, genuinely just so normal and nice and sweet. And I think you can just tell, like, she's in such a good place now. Has really found the balance in her life between, like, work and having, like, her private life and obviously being married. Like, and it's also just the emotional aspect of, like, oh, I grew up with her, and there's so many times where literally she was near death at certain points, you know, and, like, being the same age as her, too, I don't know. It's just so weird. It's like, Like, I don't know. It's trippy. It's so trippy. I'm, like, weirdly proud of her, but I don't know her, so I'm like.

[Oscar]

I don't know why people, like, love her so much because same when we were doing, like, before the interview, obviously, I do the deep dive. I'm watching all these documentaries that I hadn't watched before and just. Yeah, the struggle she's gone through with so much and also just being really open about it and, like, being like.

[Trisha Paytas]

You made it through teenager. Like. Yeah. She was the first person I remember who was, like, open about, like, depression and stuff. Like, you know, like, I remember being, like, 15 or 16, and that's. She's kind of how I found out about, you know, the mental health struggles and stuff. So it's all very.

[Oscar]

And she. She said here she's been struggling. She's had, you know, struggles, and she was, like, seven, you know, with mental health. And so I was like, damn. Like, that's why I think everyone feels, like, proud, because it's like, you really built, like, a amazing career and, like, life and, like, love and everything through all of that, so.

[Trisha Paytas]

And you're so happy.

[Oscar]

Like, she's just so happy and just nice. Like, again, like, I know we always like our little pup, but it is like a little podcast compared to, like, a lot of these other people who, like, you know, she went on chicks in the office. And, you know, Jake Shane, obviously, is a huge one that gets all these guests. So it is like a. It was. I think everyone was, like, gagged. They're like, what? Like, the superstar. So we appreciate Debbie so much for picking this podcast. Like, that was for choosing us, because, you know, we talked about it. One of the sounds we used was literally, like, you know, I have a big guest coming in. Oscar being, like, a month ago, like, Demi Lovato. I wish. You know what I mean? Like, that. That's so insane, because to me, that was like, yeah, it's. It's just wild because we have, you know, we have a few dream guests out there and stuff. And it's cool that Demi said yes and showed up and came very far, too, by the way, when she wasn't even. I. For some reason, I thought someone had told me she was, like, in the area.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, they were like, oh, she'll be in the area that day, so no problem. We're like, okay, yeah.

[Oscar]

And it's like, no, I just drove out for you. And I was like, and we're far. We are far. And, like, at least an hour, probably. And so it was. I don't know. It was really. It meant a lot, and I was really cool, and it felt like one of those moments where I'm just like, oh, I can't believe, like, you know, we got that chance and just to know her and obviously then get to go to her party. And I got to meet her sister and, like, you know, just meeting her close friends and family is. Is really cool. And, like, yeah, I don't know. I really. I really liked her.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know they're all that, like, her sister Dallas, her big sister Dallas was so sweet, too, and, like, I love how everyone was so excited to meet you.

[Oscar]

Oh, my God. Which is so crazy because her sister, too, is, like, a vocal coach, and she had, like, literally had to go home that night to, like, do vocal training for these, like, superstars, as it's no, it is. Yeah. I do love getting out of the house. I should get out of the house more because everyone is very nice. And same with you. Everyone was very gig. Everyone who? Oscar. Like, so many people were like, I love Oscar when we go up to people, and it was very. And you're very brave. You, like, just go up and, like, don't. I'm more nervous. Like, I definitely followed you. I definitely was like, I don't know if I can just, like, go up and say hi to people. Like, I'm very more. Like, I should probably just not say hi to anyone. But you said everyone, which I love, I think. Right?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think. Yeah.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Obviously, I don't know. I was. I was mingling, which is rare for me. I think I just haven't done it in a long time. It does jump out because, like, from doing, like, red carpets and stuff, like, you're just stuck next to people for a long time, so you kind of have to make small talk.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I just am very rusty at it, but I guess it can jump out.

[Oscar]

You were so good. You didn't even get a quesadilla. I was. Because you want to eat, and you guys, like, no, we're just talking the adrenaline rush. Yeah. Did you go? Were you hungry when you home? Because you didn't eat anything that night.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. And I was so excited about those churros, but I was just so locked in.

[Oscar]

Either. Were they gone?

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe they were gone because we were walking past.

[Moses]

I had one. It was really good.

[Oscar]

Where was our churros? Where were they?

[Trisha Paytas]

They were next to the cotton candy, and we were walking past, and one of the workers, she, like, she was holding churros out. But you were locked in, too, because you were.

[Oscar]

Where was I going?

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know where. Oh, photo booth.

[Oscar]

Someone was holding churros, and I went past it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, you were trying to find that photo booth. Now it all makes sense.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I am. Yeah, it. And especially because it was like, a house. It was, like, at a house. So it is kind of a house party, but, like, it elevated. So it was just. Yeah, everyone was very nice. Honestly, that's why I do need to get out more. I'm like, you know what? People are nice. I'm so scared of people. And I'm like, you know what? People are nice. And if they're not nice, they don't talk to you. Like, it's like, no one comes up. It's not like, back in, like, the early 2000s when I watched movies, like, she's all that and stuff. It's like people, like, go up to you to be mean to you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Dump a drink or something on you. And it's like, nobody does that, I don't think. I don't know. Not to me. It hasn't happened. And I feel like it would have. But, yeah, people are really nice. Nice. And it was fun. And I loved hosting together.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was like, I know what's next for us. I know what. Maybe the kids choice. I was gonna say maybe Golden Gloves, but maybe we start small. Like, choice.

[Oscar]

Oh, my God. Call me Rosie o'. Donnell. We'll be there. I loved watching your host. I'm like, okay. Yes. We're down. Let's do it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Come on. We are open.

[Oscar]

Yeah. I did love it. It was cool. Yeah, we, like, carpooled together.

[Trisha Paytas]

We had a little. I mean, it was all. We didn't really plan anything, but we didn't.

[Oscar]

But I thought we did good.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I thought so too. We had a little.

[Oscar]

Our little shtick going al separate very far. We'd be bad presenters.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's true. But also, just because we're socially anxious, because we're like. There was one point where Demi. We had Demi come up to, you know, introduce your video, and I. I think both of our heads was like, well, we don't want to look like we're trying to, like, get her shot.

[Oscar]

Yes, that is exactly it.

[Trisha Paytas]

But then the Getty image is so wide, and it's like, I thought it was gonna be close and on Demi on the screen. And the Getty image is so wise. Like, just see us on opposite side.

[Oscar]

That was so good because, like, obviously she wanted us to be there. And we're like, we should have just been, like, supporting her. I looked like we were like, left her alone on there. I was like, bye. No. Is she. Because. Yeah, no, I know. That was.

[Moses]

We both social distancing.

[Oscar]

We did. We both went opposite directions. We could have at least gone to the same silent presenters, but it was.

[Trisha Paytas]

Our first one, you know, so. Yeah. By the time next Demi music video premiere will be, like, really good.

[Oscar]

Yeah. You know why I have less judgment? Remember we were talking about VMAs last week, and I was saying how, like, Ariana and Mariah had that, like, awkward kiss thing. I get it. Honestly. Honestly, Same. I would probably be like, what do I do? Like, it's. It's very. It's. It's a lot. But, yeah, we kind of nailed it. And ready for another Getty Image. I can't wait to see More of your images. It is so exciting. I didn't know a Getty Image photographer was gonna be there. I was like, oh my gosh. Okay. So I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I didn't even know the photographer was a Getty Image photographer.

[Oscar]

You never know. That's why you never know because it's like, you know, you see photographers.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Where's this gonna end up?

[Trisha Paytas]

But yeah, waking up to seeing that. I was like work.

[Oscar]

I was very exciting.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then I didn't know if I should put like I. Because I have a Getty Image account. So I'm like, I'm just going to download it. But I know the. The gag is to have the watermark.

[Oscar]

Oh, I love it with the watermark. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

But it was just so low res with that. With the watermark. So let me just download. Yeah, I downloaded the. The high res.

[Oscar]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Watermark free.

[Oscar]

But I love the Getty Image mark. And everyone's like, getty Image. The viral moment was Demi holding the rainbow Birkin on. She posted on her TikTok.

[Trisha Paytas]

I like, like it was so fierce. I love it too. She's like cuz she just pointed. She's like, I need to take a photo with that.

[Oscar]

Yeah, that was just the point. I was like, yeah, no, she's so fierce in every single way I look at her. I'm like, wow. And then she took it and then she literally was just like serving oh my so much. It was so funny.

[Moses]

And then actually CAA emailed. They want to sign the Birkin. They want to represent.

[Oscar]

Honestly, just give it around. Yeah, I did feel like that. I did feel like, you know when they have like those pugs and stuff and they take pictures. That's how I felt.

[Trisha Paytas]

Grumpy cat.

[Oscar]

Yes. I'm like here, here. And I'm just like on the corner like again trying to get out of the shop. But also I was very excited. I was just like this is so exciting and I will never get rid of that. Working now that is. She made it iconic in every single way. And yeah, that was my cuz. Like we were saying the theme was girls and gays and so I was just trying to be a little. There was a lot of like there was a show that says it sounds gay. I'm in. There was a lot of like gay. And I loved it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was so gay.

[Oscar]

Glad I went with the rainbow.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was. I didn't know like when we were doing photos though, like I was looking through and I was just like giddy and all of them. But like, like so many People were serving and that was the hard part. I was like, I think I was trying to serve, but I was just too excited to serve. Cuz then we took a photo with like, Adella.

[Oscar]

I was going to say yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

And she was in the Netflix documentary the Pop Star Academy. The. She was in the running to being cat side. Now she's solo. But we took a photo with her and she was like, are we cute or are we serving? And I was like, oh, good question.

[Oscar]

And then we. We chose serving, which maybe we shouldn't have done. Both of us looked very serious. Like, almost like Matt, we don't know how to do it. We'll eat demi too. Like, they. When. When they serve, there is this like. And I think we're trying. I can see us trying, but both of us just look like. I think it's maybe like our eye. I don't know. Something. Something was lacking.

[Moses]

Imagine that. The camera. You're trying to seduce the camera.

[Oscar]

Okay.

[Moses]

You know, the camera is like the person across the room that you're trying to.

[Oscar]

Okay, Moses with this. Let me see your serving look. Do it to the camera. Okay. Exactly. It's so hard. I should send.

[Moses]

I don't even know if you want.

[Oscar]

To post them because I. I was trying to post one, but I'm like, oh, I don'. We both look kind of just mad and so. But I can send it to Jimmy, I guess if we want to insert it look good. We look good. It just looked more like we were just like mad.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, to you. I had to edit in face tune. I went. And I went in there and I was like, you can change like your, like your mouth and stuff. And I like went to the smirk option and I'm like, okay, let me make it so we're smirking. Yeah. And then it makes your eyes like more like the sexy, like, you know, the smize and then the smirk.

[Oscar]

Did you post that?

[Trisha Paytas]

That the Adela one? I. Because again, we're very just like pissed off. And then Adele is like, sexy serving and then we're just like mugshot kinda. So I'm like, let me go and make us look a little bit more sm.

[Oscar]

I think I posted one on my story, but I was like, oh, I don't know. We don't like. You know what? Oh, I didn't need to see it now.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love a little tune.

[Oscar]

Okay. I should have send you all the photos all the time. I didn't know. I'm so. I'm so quick to post them. I love posting right away. So I like, like anybody if it's tan anybody. I'm just like. I just. I just want to post. Like, I just like to post right away.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I'm a take my time kind of girl.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

On even like an unserious story. I wish I could live more like you because that is kind of like the vibe. People are more like in the moment.

[Oscar]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I'm like a very. Let me sit on it, filter it for a few days kind of girl. Yeah.

[Oscar]

Did you sit. Did you sit on it for a few days?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I did a couple hours. And I was. But I was. Because they're already out there. So I'm like, I gotta.

[Oscar]

I gotta be quick with it this time.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Although I had the craziest thing, like, as I was like going home and I still don't know why I forgot the passcode to my phone, which is so weird. Whoa. And I still am very confused. Like, I don't know what happened. If I was just like, over stimulated to where, like, I was having, like, short term memory loss and I was locked out of my phone for, like, until the next morning because I kept trying. And that was weird. I was putting the numbers in. It was wrong every time. No. Oh, he thought he knew it too. No, neither of us knew it.

[Oscar]

Yeah, we got wiped, literally.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then I was like, writing down in a notebook, like, the different combinations that I thought it could be, and all of them are wrong.

[Oscar]

That is weird.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was very weird. And then I had to completely, like, reset my phone, but I was trying to not. Because I didn't want to lose, like, all the videos and stuff from that night, but I had no choice because I literally forgot.

[Oscar]

So did you lose it? Lose all the photos?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Luckily Darian took some, so I still had some saved. But what do you mean it loses.

[Oscar]

It if you restart your phone?

[Trisha Paytas]

Because I didn't have it backed up. Like, I had to completely wipe it and reboot it.

[Oscar]

What?

[Trisha Paytas]

And I'm like, a little. I feel like I need to get a brain scan or something.

[Oscar]

Oh, my God, that is scary.

[Trisha Paytas]

You need a dog.

[Moses]

You just need a dog.

[Oscar]

A dog.

[Moses]

Cuz that's how you found your.

[Oscar]

Well, you need hallucinogens too.

[Moses]

Oh, and magic mushroom specific.

[Oscar]

Yeah, right. You do need a little.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was very odd though. I'm like. But I mean, it could be like I was very overstimulated and like, also probably mix of, like, stress, not sleeping over stimulation. Yeah, it could be a mix of all that, I guess. But.

[Oscar]

But if both of. You forgot it. Yeah, I guess I've forgotten it. Where? Oh, my. I got a new laptop over tour. I remember and I like. It was the same thing. I could not remember. It was so weird. I couldn't remember it.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was so weird, too, because it's something where I literally put that set of numbers in, like, 10 times a day. So how could I just, like, forget it? It's very.

[Oscar]

Oh, that is scary.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Did you remember at all or you just reset it?

[Trisha Paytas]

I had to completely reset it, and then I had to back up my phone and you had to know your passcode to back up your. And then luckily I remembered, like, my Mac password, so I was able to get it from that. But I was very.

[Oscar]

That's scary. Oh, my gosh. I have it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. So prayers up, I guess so that's why if we ever forget something, it is genuine. You have baby brain. I have.

[Oscar]

I don't go, I don't know, over stimulation brain. Just doing a lot. Doing too much. How are you feeling after last night's Emmys? Are you overstimulated for sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was a long night for. I feel like no one really cares about me.

[Oscar]

It's, like, kind of boring, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, kind of boring. And it was just long. It was another. I think we did two to, like, 11:30. It was long. It was very long.

[Oscar]

And it's not, like, fun like VMAs, where, like, the girls are giving tea because VMAs.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, everyone I like, the older people I work with were like, I don't know anybody who's cat's eye, who is somber, you know, like, they don't know anybody.

[Oscar]

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[Trisha Paytas]

And then for Emmys, I was like, God, I don't know anybody besides, like, obviously, like, you know, White Lotus and Ortega, like, the obvious.

[Oscar]

Do they win anything? White Lotus?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, it was.

[Oscar]

Was.

[Trisha Paytas]

The big winners from the Emmys were the studio.

[Moses]

The studio se. All the shows we talk about basically won here.

[Oscar]

All the shows.

[Trisha Paytas]

Moses.

[Oscar]

I'm just going to say you watch hacks.

[Moses]

That's all.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Hacks.

[Moses]

Traders. That's all you.

[Oscar]

Traders won.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Oscar]

Over Drag Race.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses]

That's all you. I mean, that's.

[Oscar]

I mean, Drag Race was the only thing exciting about the red carpet.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Shout out Cory King. Shout out Joella. Cory King was Michael Jackson. Joella was.

[Oscar]

And her. Lisa was Miss Piggy, which, like, who is this queen? And then I thought they. Yes. I remember Corking talking about on the music video of gay being like, I want to be Michael Jackson. The Emmys. And I think. I think they were trying to talk her out of it. Like, no, don't do that. And then, sure enough, I wonder, was Rue there?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I don't think so, actually, because I know Michelle. Like, everyone knows. Yeah.

[Oscar]

Crazy. So maybe he. Because he went, like, lost last year, he's like, we're not gonna. Maybe.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

I mean, love Traders. But I really do think Drag Race this season should have won.

[Trisha Paytas]

I. I was kind of gagged. I was kind of gagged that Drag Race lost again. So that's two years. But I guess Drag Race has won a lot, so maybe, you know, mix it up a little bit coming there. Yes. He accepted.

[Moses]

He's the one that got it.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I guess I saw. I literally have seen nothing. I did see Walton Goggins shout Out to Entertainment Tonight's Twitter. They had posted him with his wife. And I was like, okay. That's all I saw. I was like, love this.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that was. I don't know. I don't really live for Emmys. Particularly Jenna Ortega looked amazing.

[Oscar]

She was in a death becomes her outfit. I saw. I was like, okay, love that. That's I think a Halloween costume of mine this year. I was like, not that particular one. She plays the woman that's like the anti aging potion lady. And I was like, oh, that was good. She looked great. I loved seeing her. Who else was there? Anyone serving anything? Is there performances at Emmys or not?

[Trisha Paytas]

No. Reba and Little Big Town performed the Golden Girls theme song, if you're into that song.

[Oscar]

The Golden Girls theme. Oh, I love.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was a Reb and Girls. Yeah.

[Oscar]

Okay. I love that.

[Trisha Paytas]

And the immemorial. There's a performance for that. But that was about it. And it was weird. I actually don't know, but it was kind of weird this year the whole. There was a gag. It was very controversial. There was a gag where the host, Nate Bergazzi. The whole thing was like you have the winners have 45 seconds only to do their acceptance speech. And if you go over that amount of time. Time. There was like a pot that was going to be donated to the Boys and Girls Club of America of a hundred thousand dollars. So any minute you. Any second you go over, a thousand dollars would be subtracted. What so and they have the counter like on the screen as people were presenting based on if they go over or under. If they go under, a thousand gets added per each second. But if they go over, it gets subtracted for the Boys and Girls Club of America.

[Oscar]

Oh, that's interesting. Okay, so if it goes under, it gets added.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

But it was kind of odd cuz you see the timer, I think the bit was just like continued throughout the whole night. And then anytime it cut back to like Nate Brazi was the host, like that was his bit, he kept like talking about what the donation pot was at. So the bit was just continued so much. And then to see like a timer and you know, sometime it. You. You kind of have to have a balance. Cuz. Yeah, there's some speeches like God, who's that one guy at the Oscars that he was in the architect movie.

[Oscar]

The Architect?

[Moses]

Yeah, he was in this one. You like him?

[Oscar]

Adrian Brody?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, he said yes. His speech was so long, you know.

[Oscar]

Yeah, he's too much. But I do love him.

[Trisha Paytas]

So.

[Oscar]

Very handsome.

[Trisha Paytas]

You kind of have to find the balance of like keeping people on track.

[Moses]

Hannah, that one from Hacks, she had a beautiful speech. Like, I would hate that if that speech would subtract the money.

[Oscar]

So what happened with hers? Did she, did she wonder over?

[Trisha Paytas]

She went over, but she was like, whatever, I'll pay, I'll add money to it or whatever.

[Oscar]

But oh yeah, that's so awkward then because it's like, why you making the celebrities pay? Like what?

[Trisha Paytas]

It was a weird bit. Yeah. Especially like Hannah's speech was like shouting out. Like it was like fi is shouting out Palestine. So it was like just a weird thing to also have like the timer for a charity. Go on out. She's like making this statement.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, so it was weird. I feel like they shouldn't have done taken the bit so far because it was a couple years ago when Conan hosted one where, where they put. God, I forget who it was, but they put like an older actor in this like last case and was like, we only have three hours. If anyone, if we go over three hours, he's gonna run out of oxygen. It was like a joke. But I mean, that's like more of a funny joke than, you know, charity. I feel like you're messing with charity.

[Oscar]

Right, right.

[Moses]

So if you're trying to raise money, make something that you can raise the money. So people get excited like, oh my God, we have to. 150, 200.

[Oscar]

Yeah, they should have just kept it. Like, if you keep it under, we'll donate for every second. A thousand dollars versus subtract. Yeah, yeah. Subtracting is crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And then some of the presenters were longer. Like the people presenting, they, they took their bits longer than the people accepting their award. So that was a big criticism of how the pacing was like a little all over the place because of that bit. But I guess at the end none of it even mattered because they were in the negative. Like they were from the donation pot. But then Nate Brazzi donated money and then he said CBS will also like double it.

[Oscar]

So it really might.

[Trisha Paytas]

It didn't matter. Yeah. So it was weird to have that bit and then have it before. He's a comedian, a stand up community.

[Oscar]

Was he good?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, but I think it's because that everything was about that bit. Like he didn't really have jokes because I don't know him. But like, I, I know a lot of people who really like him and like say he's really funny. Like, and he tours and he sells out, you know, these big venues and stuff. So everyone's like, he's really funny, but, like, he couldn't see it, I think because of the. Everything was going back to this bit, and it was so awkward that it made it kind of weird.

[Oscar]

Why don't they just make award shows long? Longer?

[Trisha Paytas]

This one's already three hours.

[Oscar]

Well, carve out three and a half. You know, like, buy it. They're always. I guess they don't want it to be that long. They want it to be short. But speeches, you shouldn't cut to 45 seconds. You should give everyone at least.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know, because that is the whole point. Like, you know. Yeah, obviously some of them are winning. You know, like, Jean Smart from Max is winning her seventh Emmy. But for some of them, it's their first and they never thought they would have the opportunity.

[Oscar]

Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

May not ever get it again. So it does suck for you.

[Oscar]

Yeah. What would your speech be in 45 seconds?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that is a good. I probably have. I'm so bad at having a genuine, like, emotional moment that I probably have some joke. Hannah. I'm. Binder had, like, a bit before she got, like, political, but she was like, it. Honestly, I thought it was more of, like, my thing that I didn't win. I thought it was more punk rock, you know?

[Oscar]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I probably make some joke like that, and then. Yeah, probably ended on, like, some, you know, brave political statement at the end. Oh, wow. Yeah.

[Oscar]

I think mine would be monkey with hands crying emoji.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, wait, that's just. And then walking off.

[Oscar]

They do that as his speech hands.

[Trisha Paytas]

What did he win?

[Oscar]

Hands covering his emoji.

[Trisha Paytas]

What did he win?

[Oscar]

Yeah, he did win something. You never saw that. It's on pop culture moments on TikTok, but so funny. Like, emoji, monkey hands of her eyes. Thank you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, that's actually. I actually love that.

[Oscar]

And I was like, I wouldn't do that if I won, like, a. I actually love that. I love Tyler Link. I think. I think he's.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would want you to do the. You would go up and then it's like, your video. I'm no longer speaking. And then it's just you for 45 seconds.

[Oscar]

Like, silent.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

What if I went in there and just been silent and just. What if you just take it and go? Just, like, leave that. Awesome. That was me at homecoming when I won homecoming queen, and I literally went and got my crown and I, like, left. I think I maybe did a dance. I think maybe I did one dance with the homecoming king. And then I was like, bye. I gotta Go. I just wanted the crown. Probably do that. Did you find it?

[Trisha Paytas]

Monkey covering eyes emoji. Thanks. I kind of love that. Is it a streamy? I don't.

[Oscar]

It must be. It must be. What else would. I mean, we love him, but what else would he have?

[Trisha Paytas]

One Teen Choice Award, maybe back in the day. I don't know.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I don't see a surfboard, so I'm assuming it's a. It's a stream.

[Oscar]

Right. He had like, a little.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's is really camp, actually.

[Oscar]

I kind of love that. Short, sweet, to the point. Yeah. I don't know. I, I, you know. Did you ever try to watch a studio?

[Trisha Paytas]

No. Darian, as Moses does, loves the studio. Keeps trying to. He's seen it three times now because he keeps convincing people to see it, but I'm not watching. Strong. Yeah.

[Oscar]

I don't know if it's that good.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know if it's for me, but I respect the artistry, you know, that's how I am about all for sure.

[Oscar]

People like something. Moses, even after they won all the Emmys, he's like, yeah, there was an episode of, of the Office. What is. What is it called? The Studio.

[Moses]

There's an episode where they are in an award show.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses]

And he's. And Seth Rogen is the producer of the show, but he really wants to be mentioned in the speech because his mom is watching the show.

[Oscar]

I think he's just the network. He's not a producer.

[Moses]

He's the network. I mean, he's the one that greenlights a project, let's say.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Moses]

So the whole episode is him trying to convince the actress, which was Zoe Kravitz, to mention him in her speech. Change. And it just goes crazy. And it goes crazy.

[Oscar]

Sounds crazy.

[Moses]

Goes wild.

[Oscar]

It sounds crazy. Even when he's explained to me. I was like.

[Moses]

I know. When they lose her, even.

[Oscar]

Oh, my God, that one was really crazy. I was really trying to follow it, and I was like, I. I don't know what's happening.

[Moses]

I mean, look, they won all those.

[Oscar]

It just doesn't sound interesting. Like the way. Not the way you explain it, but just in general, it's just like, oh, they want an Emmy, and he wants to be talked about. Like, okay, that's the whole plot.

[Moses]

But when you actually watch the series of events, you know, it's like everything goes wrong and everything goes.

[Oscar]

Well, let me not knock it in case they want me on season two.

[Trisha Paytas]

True.

[Moses]

And that's exactly. It's kind of like, again, it's like hacks in a different perspective, like a different type of humor. But it's like hacks. It's a behind the scenes of a show.

[Oscar]

I just, I.

[Moses]

It's the perfect place for them to have you because it'll be like a media, somebody from social media.

[Oscar]

True Jake Shane vibes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. You could be like the Jake Shane over there. There.

[Oscar]

I don't know. I think who would be more fitting for that, who is like an influencer. Maybe like Matt and Abby seemed like the studio type.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, no, no. It's all about Hollywood. So you have to have glam. You have to be glamor.

[Oscar]

Oh really? But the show's not glamorous. I don't think it's.

[Moses]

They have all the biggest A list stars on it. I thought whole episode with Zafron, like imagine being on that episode.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it's just all, it's like all about Hollywood basically and what it takes to know get a show going.

[Oscar]

Caa, give me an audition. I have you.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was thinking though, I was thinking about White Lotus. I was watching the new 90 Day Fiance and One of the girls is French and she's curvy. She's like a plus size, like model influencer. And she left France because they were body shaming her too much over there. But so then I was like, damn, would France, would France be too mean to Trisha if she was on White Lotus? But then I was thinking, that's literally the whole time I was watching and like she's crying because her husband wants her to move back to France. But she was like, no. Like they were so mean to me. They would just talk about my way.

[Oscar]

American or French? She was American.

[Trisha Paytas]

She is French and she grew up in France and her family is French and they were like, she left because they were so mean to her about her body. So she came to LA and she became like a curvy girl influencer. Oh yeah. She's so fierce and so gorgeous. And she was in the beginning of the show she's like doing a little, little like tick tock shoot with all her curvy girlfriends and then she's telling them that she's moving to France and she's like crying. She's like, I'm so scared about moving back because I left because they were so mean to me. And then the whole time I was like, oh my God, would Trisha be okay? But then I was like, oh, but that could be a good like law, like, you know that you could be the American who goes to France expect. And, like, you're so hot here and, like, expecting to get that treatment, and then people over there being mean to you.

[Oscar]

Like, so hot here. Like, I think the girls engaged at.

[Trisha Paytas]

The Demi Lovato party.

[Oscar]

They would say yes. Ask them for sure. I know. People are so sweet. They're always like, body tea. I'm like, is it? I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

It is.

[Oscar]

But that would be a dream role, especially. Okay. I always love this when we watch Michael, Molly or any of those shows. What's the new one? Oh, Drop that Diva. We love watching that diva. Every episode is literally just her using her fatness to, like, correlate with the case. What was the one?

[Moses]

She went to a store to buy a dress, didn't have their size. They stop at size 10.

[Oscar]

Size 10. So then she had to, like, use that against her. She wanted to sue them for inclusivity. Yeah, it was. It was kind of everything anyways, so I would love to have a role like that because on Drop that Diva, she always gets to eat donuts and stuff. So I was like, oh, if we got, like, White Lotus and my whole character was to be, like, fat shamed. You could have, like, all the croissants, all the baguettes, all the bread you would want. It'd be, like, such a dream, actually. And my makeup artist, Ari, she goes to France a lot. She's always in France for, like, Fashion Week. She said they had, like, really good pastas over there. So I was like, that would be my dream to be cast on a show taking place in France where I could eat all the good breads, all the good pastas. Pastas. And then you have to worry about being skinny, you know, not having to wear, like, a girdle or anything like that. I would. I would love it. There was no. There was no heavy people on Emily and Paris. I think that's why we stopped. Because I was like, not that. That's not why we stopped, but, you know, you. You start feeling even like the head of. Where does she work? Over there. Head of something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Some fashion thing, right?

[Oscar]

Yeah. She's like, do you watch?

[Trisha Paytas]

I saw season one when it came out. So that was like, 21.

[Oscar]

I don't even know where she works. She's like a social media person. Maybe it's a magazine. I don't know where she works. Yeah, but even all the older people working there, they're all just very. Well, were they all smoke cigarettes? Was that the thing? There was something that. I don't know.

[Moses]

In Europe, people.

[Oscar]

Yeah. So I think it was just more of, like, I should not watch this because I was already feeling bad about myself. That's when we switched over to Drop Dead Diva, I think literally that same day, right? I literally googled shows with, like, fat people as the lead because I was just. Honestly, I was just more. Again, my own insecurities that I was like, okay, I need to see someone on tv. Like, Mike. And what was the other one we watched with? Not Mike and Molly? There was another big girl. Oh, too much. She's not big. But it was not a size zero. So I loved those shows. I want to keep watching. So if you are a bigger out there and you and you're like, gosh, I want a show that doesn't make fat people hate themselves. Watch Drop Dead Diva. It came out, like, forever ago. By the way, Jimmy loves Drop Dead Diva.

[Trisha Paytas]

He loves Drop Dead Diva.

[Oscar]

He's like, I can't wait to hear about it every week. And I'm like, period. Because we just watched a bunch and we did binge watch it yesterday. It's really good, but I should give Emily and Pears a try. It was good. I did buy the MCM backpack that she had on episode one, because that's as far as we made it. She made it look good. Honestly, I was like, ooh. Oh, and Gilbert, I know we're past Emmy saying segment, but the Gilmore Girls were there last night.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. The Gilmore Girls reunion reboot.

[Oscar]

Is there a reboot happening?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think Lauren Graham has pitched before, like, a holiday special, which would make sense because Gilmore Girls is very, like, fall winter cozy vibe. So I hope they do and that they were such a moment at me. So I feel like maybe that will inspire.

[Oscar]

They built a whole set. They built their porch for them. So I was like, did they do that for anyone else? Like, why do they do so much?

[Trisha Paytas]

They really went above and beyond for the Gilmore Girls.

[Oscar]

They just want to our brothers to pick it up, honestly. Tea?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

I can't wait for that tour. We really need to plan that day.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah, we really do, actually.

[Oscar]

I feel like, yeah, it has to be, like, a Patreon day where we, like, figure because we have, like, so much, like, even Halloween now it's at Target and. Oh, go get Halloween stuff.

[Trisha Paytas]

Boo baskets. That's a good idea.

[Oscar]

I'd have Moses help me with my boo basket, though. I'm really bad at putting together baskets. Like, my basket would be like, just the bag. Like, here, take all this stuff.

[Moses]

I'm so bad the one getting it Packing it.

[Oscar]

That is very true. You're not. You're good at packaging or. No, no, I.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I think I. Yeah, I'm not great, but I think I'm good.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I'm terrible.

[Trisha Paytas]

I like, I'm good at presentation. Semi at least. Like, if you look too close, it's a little crunchy, but from first glance, it, like, looks fierce.

[Oscar]

You would be able to pick mine out from a pile of presents. I don't rap anymore because I met Moses, but I used to just, like. Like, throw it over and just put, like, a big piece of Scotch tape on it. And I was just like, it's all together, wrapped. It's. I'm just really bad at it. Food presentation too. I'm really bad at. I'm just really bad at presentation. I don't know. Is it important these days? I guess.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think so, yeah.

[Oscar]

Is White Lewis, Cassie? Is that why you're talking about it?

[Trisha Paytas]

I. Well, I think they must be getting ready to do the next season, and they already tentatively have France as the location, so it must be approaching.

[Oscar]

And is Mike White not on the island still or what?

[Trisha Paytas]

He wasn't at the Emmys, but I survived a short, so I must be done filming by now. I would think it's only, like, a couple, like, two.

[Oscar]

That's crazy. It used to be months, I thought.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, it used to be over a month. Like a month and a half maybe, or a month. But, yeah, now it's like, pretty quick. It's like two, two, three weeks.

[Oscar]

But, yeah, they won nothing last night.

[Trisha Paytas]

White Lotus. No.

[Oscar]

That's kind of crazy, right? Because wasn't it, like, the biggest show of the year?

[Trisha Paytas]

It won. It got a lot of nominations. But the problem is they put so many of the same actors and, like, I mean, in the best supporting actress interest, there would be like three or four people from that cast. So I feel like they just. All the votes were so diluted because they put so many of the same people from so many of the same stars in the category, if that makes sense. That's just my theory that I'm assuming.

[Oscar]

I would think numbers game, the probability of someone winning. If there's four of the six people nominated, you would think they would win. But I get what you're saying. They're kind of divided.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Because if you're like, oh, Carrie Coon, like, was the best part of the White Lotus, but then someone else, like, no, like Natasha Rothwell is, like, the best. You know what I mean? So versus is like. It makes it harder if you love the White Lotus to pick someone versus if you just loved, I don't know, Severance or the studio, whatever. And there's only one Severance star in the category. Like, oh, well, I love Severance. I'm gonna vote for.

[Oscar]

Did Severance win above White Lotus 2?

[Moses]

2 actors. Because they're like, a breakout actors. Like, people made so many tiktoks about them and celebrated their performances. Yeah. He had moments in the show where he would, like, dance and do all kind of things that were so good, both cinematically and him as an actor.

[Oscar]

You liked it better than the one White Lotus performances because you watched both.

[Moses]

He definitely deserved his win.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Moses]

Because nobody stood out at White Lotus the way he did.

[Oscar]

I disagree. We had a breakout star this year, and that was Walton Goggins. And everyone loves him. Tana loves him. Everyone loves him. He was the breakout star.

[Moses]

I think he was already a star. Like, he was already.

[Oscar]

I don't think so. He was in a lot of things. I definitely never knew his name. Like, I would be. Oh, yeah, that guy from that thing. But I don't now. He's like, star. Like, he.

[Moses]

Because I guess if you saw specifically his performance, you would understand why.

[Oscar]

Because I remember when the cats were white Lotus was an. I'm like, don't know any of these people. And then they all became, like, amazing, which is kind of great.

[Moses]

Walter Goggins had a great acting. Like, he did great, but he didn't do what Mel did. As far as breaking out, I'm gonna disagree.

[Oscar]

Even though I haven't seen the other performance, I love it. There's a strong disagree.

[Moses]

There's no one moment from White Lotus that you'll be like, rewatch that scene.

[Oscar]

I think so. I think Sam Rockwell's monologue, everyone was like, whoa, Gags.

[Moses]

Right? But not faltered.

[Oscar]

Well, his reaction to it was like, Remember? His reaction was like, so that's acting. Acting is reacting. That's what I've learned from my acting classes. It's the main part of it, which is why I suck as an actress. Because I don't react. Like, you can read lines with me, and I just like, look at you during your lines. Why don't you do my next line? Like, I don't react right. And he reacted perfectly. He had great reactions.

[Moses]

So this would be a new category.

[Trisha Paytas]

Best Reactor. Best friend.

[Oscar]

That is what acting is. Oh, my gosh. That is what acting is.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm trying to see who else was even in. In his category.

[Oscar]

What about Grey's Anatomy? Isn't that still going? That doesn't get nominated for anything.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not anymore. Not these days.

[Oscar]

Wait, really? They're just like, we're done with it. We're over it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, it's still. They're still collecting the checks. And I feel like, you know, that is maybe that's all that matters. Oh, yeah. Okay, so a Tremel one over. Zach Cherry from Severance. Walton Goggins, Jason Isaacs and Sam Rockwell from the White Lotus. James Marsden from Paradise.

[Oscar]

Wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

John Tutoro from Severance. I guess maybe my theory goes out the window then, because it's three Severance actors, three White Lotus, and then James Marston for Paradise.

[Oscar]

So James Marston, what, he should have won and you with your theory.

[Trisha Paytas]

If my theory was to stick, yeah.

[Oscar]

And John Turrell I love. He's in Severance. I love him. To me, he's like a Walton Goggins, where he's, like, in everything. And he should be a bigger star than he is. I mean, I know he's a big star, but. But, like, I don't know if many people would know him by name.

[Moses]

And he did. Really, like, because his character was gay, but it was kind of like a closet, kind of hidden. And suddenly in the middle of the show, you realize that he is. And he kind of realizes it's really.

[Oscar]

Oh, he doesn't even know it's not.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's just not.

[Oscar]

Oh, he's outside. Right. Is that the one where he's like.

[Moses]

Both.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, okay.

[Moses]

But you never really, like. You never suspect the beginning. And then slowly you start seeing that he has this kind of developing feelings to somebody.

[Oscar]

Serious role in the Office or comedy?

[Moses]

His role.

[Oscar]

Yeah, serious.

[Moses]

No, no comedy, I don't think.

[Oscar]

Because, like, I feel like a lot of people know him from my Adam Sandler movies, like Big Daddy and stuff like that. Or like Mr. Deeds, where he's like the guy with the foot. But I love when he's serious, like he was an old brother. Where Art Thou? He was in Secret Window. Oh, I love him.

[Moses]

Here is more like he takes his job very seriously, but then at the same time, he has the kind of softer, hidden sides. He's a really great actor.

[Oscar]

Love him. Him and John Malkovich. I think they need to make a comeback.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe we'll get into Severance then.

[Oscar]

No, maybe. Walter Collins was in Second Friends. Then I'd watch it. I can't get into something unless I like an actor from the show or. They're big. Like a big person.

[Trisha Paytas]

I forgot you meant big size.

[Oscar]

I love a plus size in Anything like I would watch this is Us. I know there's like a plus size actress in that I want to watch. Yeah, I would watch it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know what it takes for me to watch a show. I'm so bad at watching shows right now. I'm so bad.

[Oscar]

You didn't start early Murders?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I don't think I can. I don't. I just don't know if I have the. The attention span for it really. 90 Day Fiance is like caught my eye and I'm like stuck there and there's so many.

[Oscar]

I do love it.

[Trisha Paytas]

A 90 day cinematic universe. So I'm. I'm stuck in that right now.

[Oscar]

We were definitely 90 day like the other way. We were watching all the 90 days for a minute. But yeah, it does. It does get to be too much because there was a point where they're just like the island. And so all of a sudden it's like just a cycle of them that's like overlapping each other and there's just not enough to come up with.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I'm all scattered right now because I started randomly with 90 day UK so I got to know those divas first and then now I'm started the other way.

[Moses]

They. They messed up. Like, there's the before and the after and the timeline is so stretched out to like, where am I watching them?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

What?

[Moses]

Because there's so many shows that already passed. Now it's just a reality show for those couples.

[Oscar]

Yep, yep, yep.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, they're in this new season, how to look up. Because there was one couple that was like from older seasons. The rest were new. And then I had to look up the lore and catch up. But like, I guess I'm a quick learner. I caught on pretty quick.

[Oscar]

But I, I love the. How we came aware of it was. I think it was during quarantine. I had just met Moses and I was getting tagged. So you know what I'm talking about.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you know, Nova, the concept of this is tickling me already.

[Oscar]

Oh my God. And they were so accurate. Did we ever use it as a sound? Because there's a couple named Nicole and Asmin. Was that his name? Yeah. I think he was from Morocco, which you have Moroccan descent and she was a plus size blonde that would go over and she was like obsessed with him.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm dead.

[Oscar]

Did you look him up?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Oscar]

Is it Nicole and Asmond? Is that the name?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh no. Azan.

[Oscar]

Azan.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Okay. Nicole and Az. And. And she was so in love with him. And there's a scene of them, like, hiking up these sand dunes, which literally reminded.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Moses]

When we did the Proposal, that's all.

[Oscar]

I could think of. He's like, come on. Just like. And what did he say? He's like, maybe if he just worked out at the gym a little more. And I was thinking is, like, huffing and puffing. As we were going up to the proposal, I was like, thinking, oh, my God, we're Nicole. And as in right now.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sand dunes are hard, though, Mom. I'll give you that. Sand dunes, a tough terrain, and then.

[Oscar]

Going up the hill, that's rough.

[Moses]

Of course, she didn't know. She knew I was going to propose, so she was like, maybe we'll just stop here.

[Oscar]

I did say that.

[Moses]

I'm like, we have to make it.

[Oscar]

You were. That's. You were giving ads and. Because you're like, come on, a little further. Because she also wanted to stop. And I was like, we just physically can't go anymore. And then we went all the way up there. Oh, my God. That was. Yes. And everything. She was, like, loved and she was. But you would love me, right? Like, you know, you love me just as I am. He's like, yes, but maybe go to the gym and lose a few more. Like he was. But he was, like, nice. He was very nice to her, I think, just, like, culturally and like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, the honest.

[Oscar]

Yes, well, that part, too. The honesty. I remember telling Moses when we met, I was like, you can't. You can't just say what you feel all the time. Like, you can't just say what you're thinking. You have to, like, take it back. I think that's the one lesson you've learned from me in life is just don't say everything that comes to your mind. And I would tell them that. I remember, like, within a week or two dating, I was like, I can't even talk to you anymore because you're just too bloody honest. I don't know. Just too much. But anyways, I hope Nicole and Asin are doing well. She had a daughter, so I hope that they. She was thriving, though. She loved Morocco. She was. She was driving over there. Over there.

[Moses]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

She. She couldn't hold hands in public. He's like, no, we can't do that here. Remember that one? Danielle and Muhammad? Do you know them? Oh, my God. That is another. These are classic 98 couples that you should, like, look up to. He was another one that even on their wedding day, he said he couldn't kiss her because it was against his culture, which was not true.

[Trisha Paytas]

He just made that the whole respectful, like. Okay, that makes sense.

[Moses]

Right, Right, right.

[Oscar]

No, it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know sometimes you don't believe it. Yeah.

[Oscar]

But they couldn't kiss at all. Not even on their wedding day. I was like, dang, that's. That's pretty crazy. But I love. I do love 90 fiance.

[Trisha Paytas]

No.

[Moses]

You were even mentioned in some of those.

[Oscar]

Me.

[Moses]

Yeah, because in 90 fiance, was it Usman? What was his name?

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, oh.

[Oscar]

I had an era that I was entangled in all the drama. I'd get myself in the drama. Yes. It was 2020. Oh, God. And I really went after the wrong people. I was weirdly, this is a me and Moses. This is after we had met. But I was over Moses because he was again, too blunt. Just don't want anything to do with them. So then I was like, weirdly into 90 Day Fiance and it was a current season that was airing. And yeah, I would. What's the name? Was it Soldier Boy?

[Moses]

Yeah, because. Because this is the time where people went live on Instagram. Oh, and you could join people. Yes, yes, I was joining together.

[Oscar]

So me and Usman. Yeah, his name was Usman and he was also known as Soldier Boy. What was the song he sang?

[Moses]

Oh, man, I'll find it.

[Oscar]

Gosh, it was such a good one too. And I did like. I did a lip sync to it and he. He liked me. Yes, he did. He was. I loved him too. He was great. He was. He was a good musician. I liked his songs. But I would get in the lives of all these 90 day fiance people because I was like, are they still together? Probably not. So I would, like. Honestly, I probably should have checked first because I was just like hitting on him and he was very handsome and there was another one named Jeffrey who ended up being going to prison, which I know. Like, I didn't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I think.

[Oscar]

Yeah, yeah. Very bad. Very bad. I know. I. There. There was an era for sure. I didn't know, of course, but there was an era. I'd find these guys that did awful things. And I guess. I guess now you just got to research. I guess at the time we didn't know cuz he was still on the TLC show. And then TLC pulled him. I guess when all these like, things came to fruition, it was with someone before that he was married to before. But I was like gonna go literally visit him and thank God for Moses, like saving me so many times in 2020 because there was a couple guys I was talking to on when I was like pissed at him again. We weren't dating. We like hung out for a couple weeks. I was doing of at the time. And then I was like constantly like seeking other guys because I was just like, I don't know, desperate, I guess. And so I was like, what was named Jeffrey from 90 Day. There was another guy that. From Texas. And luckily Moses kept coming back in my life. So he kept being like, okay, maybe I should just go with this nice person that's like right here in front of me rather than all these awful people. Did you look up, soldier boy?

[Moses]

So there's. I think this is the later song. I love you, you.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Is it? I love you, baby girl. Lisa. I think I did a TikTok to this sound anyways. No one probably cares, but I love him.

[Moses]

This is like the 90 day. I think he.

[Oscar]

I think they did break up, him and Lisa. And then I think he found another.

[Moses]

This is the second season, right, Kim?

[Oscar]

Kim. I think they broke up too. He was getting those girls though, huh? He was getting the girls. Well, I guess they were women. They were. They were kind of older women, which is a little. I think he had a young girl though, eventually too. I think had a young, pretty girl.

[Moses]

Well, one in that season. He was seeing somebody else. Yes, she was in her music video. So Kim, the woman from here paid for his music and music video. And in the music video was the girl that he was actually interested in.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Well, these women are a little too old. They should know what the deal is. They were the sugar mama, but he was a hot commodity. So they're all very good looking. I do like 90 fiance. I like the concept of it, of like finding love, you know, I think if there was a Love is blind like that we could host it. Right? If there was like a 90 day fiance, like dating show, like you want it. Yeah, because they seek out like Darcy and Stacy. They were on an app for foreign men. Like, some people just seek that out because, let's face it, American guys are just like, not romantic. So I get it. I understood it and I was like, oh, they should do a dating show like that where people are genuinely interested in like a different culture and want to date someone.

[Trisha Paytas]

That sounds very interesting.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I think if you do, I think it makes sense. You know, people are interested or, you know, they just go on a trip and they meet someone and it's cool because like, people from. I know it sounds like so obvious, but like meeting from people from different parts of the World, like, only expands your mind and stuff. And you're like, oh, I'm pretty close minded over here. So I think that could be a good show if done right. You know what I mean? So Netflix, we're available to host. That's so fun, actually. Okay. Night Day Fiance dating show went.

[Moses]

When we go to airports that I would. Wait, who would be like, I would be there.

[Oscar]

Yes.

[Moses]

Receiving you. Like, if she came to the foreign country, I'd be like, pretend like you're.

[Oscar]

Picking me up with, like, the flowers. Yeah, yeah. And he would do that. You did that this year even.

[Moses]

Yes.

[Oscar]

I used to want. I used to want to do that. Yes. Because when we would travel, I was like, can you just, like, stand out there and like, pretend? Like if we were together. But then when I was traveling alone and coming back, I would always, always pretend because they always stand there with signs and flowers and no one does that anymore. People just like, stay in their car or park, whatever. Moses will park and come in and like, pretend to pick me up. You don't do that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Darian takes a shuttle.

[Moses]

Do you think I'm gonna make her take the shuttle after she landed?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. He's out there waiting in the shuttle line. It takes a long time to get there sometimes. Yeah. Yeah.

[Oscar]

Like, is it on a day that you go into the office? Office.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's.

[Oscar]

I mean, you work a lot.

[Trisha Paytas]

Random. I only work from home. Two day. Like, two days. Yeah. But yeah, so he just traveled. He picks random days and I'm like, what? Sometimes I'll be like, okay, just Uber. I'll split an Uber with you or something. If it's like, really takes a long time, but you're right.

[Oscar]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

But yeah, in the beginning, the first time, the first two times he came to visit, I would. I think one time he even landed in, like, the Long beach airport, but that was during quarantine, so it was no traffic, you know, so.

[Oscar]

Oh, did he live in a different state?

[Trisha Paytas]

It was when he lived in North Carolina before he moved. So I would go to the airport gladly. But now I'm like, get on that bathroom.

[Oscar]

Wait, how did you guys meet then? Online.

[Trisha Paytas]

Instagram. Yeah.

[Oscar]

He slid into your dms or you slid into his.

[Trisha Paytas]

He slid into mine.

[Oscar]

How'd he find you?

[Trisha Paytas]

It was kind of random. A few months. Oh, my God. This was, I guess, 2019. He. The. He had a thing with some. He had like a situationship, I guess. And then he followed me. It was after I had a viral tweet about being skinny. Ironically. Yes.

[Oscar]

He found you from that?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think so. Because I got.

[Oscar]

Wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because Taylor Lord is really crazy. I posted, like, a before and after. This was like, November 2019, and it went viral, I think, because Taylor Swift liked it. And then it got into, like, the gay Twitter sphere because I think it was just so, like, drastic.

[Oscar]

Wow. And then the before and after photo.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. And then I think he followed me after that. And then. Oh, the guy that he had a situationship was mad at him for following me. So then that guy followed me, and DM me be like, you should follow this guy back. He. He likes you. And I thought it was a prank I got. Because they were like, you know, twunks. Two twunks. And I was like, okay, okay. And then I followed him, but then never talked. And then randomly In March of 2020, he slid into my DMS. That's the lore.

[Oscar]

Wow. Because girls. I see girls, I have lost, like, £100, and they'll be like, guys get upset when they realize that they were fat at one point because they think, like, genetically or whatever they're gonna have fat babies. So, like, why did you lie? They don't like it. So I like that fact that he saw the before and after, and he's like, I still like that. Oh, you know what I mean? Because I think some girls were like, they don't want to see a before and after guy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar]

Of a girl's body.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Oscar]

He liked you both ways, probably. He's probably like, oh, I like him. I love that nobody followed you. That's.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. So that was. That's the Lord there.

[Oscar]

Oh, my God. Sliding. Yeah. Moses slid into my dms, too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. Okay, work.

[Oscar]

I know. The only person to ever slide into my DMs. No one literally ever, ever did that. So thank you.

[Moses]

And luckily you saw it.

[Oscar]

Well, do you remember what you said? I don't even remember what you said. Just. Hello.

[Moses]

Yeah, the beginning was just, like. Just trying to start a conversation.

[Oscar]

That was pretty cute. That's pretty cute. Then we texted and. Yeah, same thing. We met March 2020. So we're just aligned universally. Oh, my God. I love that. That's so cute. I didn't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

You look cute today. I like your blue pants.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, thanks.

[Oscar]

I wish I could see your full body. We did get him a new chair. It's just not here. Well, it came. It was the wrong measurements. But you will blame Moses for that. Usually I get the wrong measurements. Moses said it was too small, and I was. Was like, oh, you know, measurements. So well, well.

[Moses]

Because those chairs, those director's chairs, there's two sizes, like regular chair or tall. But the tall is somewhere in between those two.

[Oscar]

Oh, so we'll get them one. Get them. But you do. I do like the full. I like the Velcro shoes, too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, thanks.

[Oscar]

It's giving toddler.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar]

In a good way. Yeah. In a cute way. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Caleb here.

[Oscar]

On.

[Trisha Paytas]

God, I need to pronounce. I'm so bad at pronouncing last names.

[Oscar]

Me, too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Caleb Heron. Heron. Yeah.

[Oscar]

I feel like Katie Heron.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that sounds right.

[Oscar]

Yeah, like Caleb Heron.

[Trisha Paytas]

He said that he received a phone call from Mr. Beast, and Mr. Beast apologized to him for the. The time debacle where he was ranked more influential than Mr. Beast.

[Oscar]

I do love how Caleb handles everything because he's, like, not wrong. And it's like, I like. Yeah, I like that. First of all, better than me, though. Would never take a phone call from Mr. Reese. And Mr. Reese, like, hey, I want to call.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I'm glad you said that, because I was thinking the exact same thing, and I didn't know if I was just, like, messy like that.

[Oscar]

No, I don't. Call me. What do you mean? Like, I don't want to have association with you. I don't want to talk to you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Very Rosanna coded be like, no, don't call me.

[Oscar]

Yeah, look, respect Mr. Beast, I guess, you know, whatever. People like him. But especially if you, like, said that about me, like, I get it. It was like, whatever. He probably didn't know him or something like that. But I. I would be like, no. Do a public apology. Yeah, I guess.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did he? He did. He did tweet. Yeah. But he was receiving a lot of Caleb. Yeah. Well, yeah. He didn't ask me. Next time, go make a Tick tock.

[Oscar]

Exactly. Get on Tick tock. Big. Hey, I'm so sorry.

[Trisha Paytas]

Get on Instagram story. Do something.

[Oscar]

I saw that, too. I wonder what the conversation was. He's just like, I'm sorry. And Caleb's like, okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

He always does, like, he always wants to, like, he always dms. And it's like, hey, can we jump on a call so I can explain it? He's one of those, you know, that very James. It is very James Charles tease. Yeah.

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah. Why do guys want to do that?

[Trisha Paytas]

People want to get on the phone so bad.

[Oscar]

Thank you.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, he talked to someone else. There was another person on Twitter who did, like, a tweet about him that went viral and he, like, started DMing him a lot, too. I forget who it was, but it was another like, influencer. But yeah, Mr. Beast loves chatting on the phone, I guess.

[Oscar]

Yeah, phone calls, hot take seem manipulative.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's just because you can. There's most of the time no, like recording proof. So I don't know, you can like do something and then also, like, you're right, like emotionally can be more manipulated based on like, yeah, if you call.

[Oscar]

Me, I will switch my mind instantly. Like, if you're calling me to do something, like, yeah, whatever you say. Honestly. Because like, I just want to get off the phone. I don't want to have this conversation. Like, I'm like, yep, you're right. Like, just leave me alone.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, and.

[Oscar]

But I wouldn't. That's why I wouldn't even take call from his Beast. Because I'm like, I don't want to be on your side, you know, I guess the chocolates are good. Did they ever send you the package they had a PR sending to Moses? They never sent it.

[Moses]

That's it.

[Oscar]

Maybe I want those chocolates.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, maybe we're off the PR list now.

[Oscar]

You know what he should do? This would be such a smart move. And I feel like if anyone could do it, Mr. Beast could is like do Manjaro or Ozempic in chocolate bar form. Oh, like, you eat it and you just don't. You're not hungry anymore.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, because I think it's in a pill. They're make. It's in a pill. Someone told me that.

[Oscar]

Wait, it's now someone told me.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think they're starting to roll it out, so might as well just put it in the chocolate. Maybe that's the next step.

[Oscar]

He's like. Doesn't he call himself Willy Wonka? Mr. Beast? That is his vibe.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Okay, but do you trust a gop One formulated by Jimmy Donaldson? I don't know.

[Oscar]

No, but you know, you gotta trust someone, so might as well be Mr. Beast. I just thought his. What was his last challenge? Like, you think he handcuffed someone to their ex for however, I don't know, was it. I don't know how long it was, but you got like, oh, a million, $2 million. Would you do it?

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't have like a proper ex, so.

[Oscar]

Yeah, same like, what is it? X? It should be someone you lived with for more than like a year. Like, you should have to date more than a year and you lived with them. In which case I don't have an ex. And I love that.

[Moses]

For that to be a channel challenge, it should be somebody that you have, like, a restraining order against.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, well, I don't know that.

[Moses]

Because that's. They obviously spend a lot of time together because they were together. So you handcuffed. They'll do it for money. Like, it's not.

[Oscar]

I don't think so. What was the price?

[Trisha Paytas]

250,000.

[Oscar]

Oh, was it just 24 hours, though?

[Trisha Paytas]

30 days.

[Oscar]

Oh, what, Mr. Beast, you have more money than that? Should these be a million $250,000. And you're okay, so let's say you're handcuffed to someone that you just cannot stand. Like, James Charles and you for 30 days.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. No, I couldn't. I'm not even trying to be. I'm, like, genuinely not trying to be funny.

[Moses]

250. That's a. Like, you can buy a house.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know, but I don't think I would, like. I genuinely don't think I would survive because I. Well, I guess the final hot topic I was researching, I was, like, catching up on drama for the final hot topic and listening to, like, James Charles. And again, like, I'm genuine. I'm being so, like, this is me from the heart right now. Which is. Could be sad, I don't know. But it's me not even trying to be funny. It's genuinely from my heart. I was having to, like, listen to James Charlotte talking. Talk about a Louis Vuitton palette. Whatever. Spoiler alert for the final hot topic. Oh, and I literally was like, this makes me want to, like, bash my head. Like a genuine voice. Just the cadence. It's just not even like the voice. It's like the cadence. The delivery, the yelling. Coca Cola.

[Oscar]

Hello. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

The energy, the halter top, all of it was just.

[Oscar]

The energy is a big one. There's a. There's a weird. There's an aura there.

[Trisha Paytas]

So it was $250 thousand dollars worth it if you don't survive. I don't think so. Like, I genuinely think I would have.

[Oscar]

Harmed myself or soul crushed, at least.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think brain crushed. I think I literally would have, like.

[Oscar]

So extreme.

[Trisha Paytas]

It is extreme, but it is so. It is so genuine. It is so real to that. Not James Charles. Harry Jowsey. I could probably do it because I feel he doesn't have a personality. So that's not that bad. Sorry.

[Oscar]

Makes it easier.

[Trisha Paytas]

I haven't slept, so.

[Oscar]

We love how we love how we.

[Trisha Paytas]

Love Howie J.

[Oscar]

Yeah. I'll be handcuffed to you. Sure. Why not? We can learn from each other, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Different walks of life. He Looked great at the Emmys.

[Oscar]

Was he there?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yep.

[Oscar]

Okay, that's. That's good for him. Were any other influencers there? I didn't see anyone.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, queen of red carpets. Haley Khalil. Haley Bailey. So.

[Moses]

So.

[Oscar]

Oh, wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

She does not miss red carpet.

[Oscar]

I. Okay. I love that. Do you think they get paid? No.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know.

[Oscar]

They just walk.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think they get invited and, you know, an invitation to a big red carpet.

[Oscar]

Well, Harry is. Has a TV show coming, right? He's on the Netflix Bachelor or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

He has been on Netflix before.

[Oscar]

Yes, but that makes sense. He's in tv. That makes more sense than, like, true stars.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe Netflix.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

You have to. And maybe Haley Bailey's on a show. I don't know. She seems like someone who'd have a show.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Taylor, Tea. This is not even a Hot topic. It just reminded me there's, like. I guess there was video of a Glen Powell, like, leaving a hotel or something with, like, a girl. And Haley Bailey went to Tik Tok. Like, you guys, it's not me with Glen Powell. Like, I just love, like, her inserting herself. I let. She claimed that people were leaving comments like, oh, my God, this is Haley Cole, though. But fear slow.

[Oscar]

She's like, it's not me, you guys.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's not me and Glenn Powell.

[Oscar]

No. Always insert yourself. Always insert yourself to anything that you can.

[Trisha Paytas]

She is so camp to me. I kind of live for her.

[Oscar]

Yeah, same. It's like, she just.

[Trisha Paytas]

Cam.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you see her? This is. This is kind of hot Topic, but with Ariana Grande's, like, ticket sales people, the Arianators were like. Because I think Haley has been, like, like, shady about Ariana before.

[Oscar]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

And they were like, haley, don't even think about getting tickets to the Eternal Sunshine tour. And then she was like, honestly, like, I don't want any of the smoke. Like, I'm not gonna be trying to get tickets. And then Michaela. Yes. Had some beef with the Arianators, and she's like, I got front row tickets.

[Oscar]

That was so wild. So it's those comments that people keep showing of her, like, shading Ariana's, like, packaging and stuff. Like, is that real?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Okay. Did it. There was one thing, too, with, like. So Michaela did a tick tock, maybe like, two weeks ago now about REM beauty, and Ariana left, like, a comment on it, and then Michaela didn't respond. Honestly, I could kind of see a world. I give it the benefit of the doubt for this one because I don't be saying comments or anything too. And she must, her notifications must be crazy. So I think there's a good chance you just miss. Even if it's verified, Ariana Grande feel like there's a strong chance. You just don't see it.

[Oscar]

But it probably would be at the top.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was at the top, but also it was a couple days like, like she had already moved on and posted other TikTok. Like it wasn't like fresh. Like.

[Oscar]

But I also think when someone comments on mine, like, even when Walton Goggins responded, everyone was like, oh, my God, Walton Goggins responded.

[Trisha Paytas]

So actually, you're right. You're right.

[Oscar]

You would know. Yeah, you would definitely know. I always know. Like, when Demi comment on mine, I was like, Demi Lovato commented. Like, you just know. Even on the new ones that you post. Did you see? Did you see? Did you see?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, good point, Good point.

[Oscar]

And I'm with her though. I'm like, I will give her credit. Like, I'm a flip flopper too. It's like, you know what I mean? If, like, you can say your packaging's boring and then also be like, but I want to come to your show, you know? But I think the real. I guess the problem is the real fans that it sold out and, like, they didn't get their tickets.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And I get like, if someone is flip floppy, you and the tickets are so. I mean, it was like so war zone to get these tickets for people because it's already small venues, the demand is so high, and then you're competing with scalpers and stuff. And it was just like crazy for people to get tickets. So to see someone who, like, is a little wishy washy on Ariana versus someone who's been like, in the trenches, you know?

[Oscar]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

That would be annoying. Yeah, for sure. So I get that too.

[Oscar]

Post it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah. But then also they were like, so like AR commenting with like and saying that she doesn't deserve to be there or whatever. And she'd be like, okay, well, see you there. Which is a little scary. I'm like, michaela, I don't know if you want to be riling them up like that when they're gonna see him in person.

[Oscar]

But no, I have a SA for Michaela because I like, I, I do like her in some capacity. Like, she is a little, like, you say camp too in a different way. I think she's, you know, she's also very young. So I just, she's. I think she's just trying. I think she has to be on the defense a lot, and I feel sorry for her in that sense.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Oscar]

She's crushing it in life. I mean, she's literally gonna be an ulta. You know, all this stuff like that. Like, allegedly. But yeah. Being young and having to defend yourself for every little thing. And then people commenting on your relationship and your marriage. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess now maybe, like. Like, why wouldn't she. Now I'm thinking, like, why wouldn't you respond? Ariana Grande, I guess, like, right.

[Oscar]

I guess, like, to your point, like, there may be a world where she just does not check comments at all. Like, maybe she's not looking at any comments.

[Trisha Paytas]

Me, I guess, commented on my Instagram, and then I was too panicked, so I just liked it. And I did, but at least I liked it.

[Oscar]

Did she like it? She, like, right? And she did respond to someone being like, this packaging sucks. And she's like, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Ye.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. That's messy boots, though. She's, I guess, silver lining. I. In a world where some drama is so serious, I'm thankful to have, like, a rant, like, kind of unserious drama at the end of the day, you.

[Oscar]

Know, she should do, like, a giveaway. She should get, like, tickets for an Arianator.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is a great idea. Yeah.

[Oscar]

Because that's how I was when I first entered the MCR fandom. I think initially they didn't like me. And then I would, like, you know, get into, like, some of the causes that MC CCR stands for, and then I would, like, donate to charities. And then they're kind of like, oh, okay. You know, that is some great advice. That way you kind of like, you know, be like, I respect y'. All. I'm here. I wasn't always here, but I'm here now. You know, I'm trying to do some good, so.

[Trisha Paytas]

And also, she. Realistically, she can really enjoy her music and just not like the packaging. Yeah, very much. Yeah. So, yeah.

[Oscar]

Because I think her whole thing is her honesty. Right. So she's like, she did a review because I think she liked the product. I think she did.

[Trisha Paytas]

She liked the lip gloss.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So then Arielle, Ariana. This is amazing.

[Oscar]

Right? So she loved it, and she's just like. But you know what? Let me be real and say something I didn't like, which is the packaging, and that's being honest. So, yeah. Imagine she's a fan if she got the front row tickets.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. Because those are hard to come by. And honestly, at Least she bought them and didn't, you know, have to wait for a PR because, you know they're gonna buy the box. You know, they always do. Some makeup company is gonna buy a box the Ariana concert, and then have the influencers there, and people are gonna be mad at them. So I want to go Juicy Couture.

[Oscar]

Juicy. They bought a box of Trish. Airs of Trish, which was. No boxes were even. I don't know if there was any other boxes sold, but Juicy Couture got one. That was everything. Juicy Couture. That was everything. Actually, yeah, I would love to go to a box.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. Tarte sent freaking people to the ERAS tour.

[Oscar]

So the box.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, they Tart got a box for at the Arrows tour and sent influencers. So.

[Oscar]

Yes, they sent a little Aquaman onesie. Well, we got. At the party, they. I had showed it yesterday on my Instagram story. They sent a. A onesie that says, Tart loves Aquaman.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is so cute.

[Oscar]

I love it so much. Didn't they send you something? They could hit you up for a PR package.

[Moses]

They will. There's a tart bro. PR or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Work. Okay.

[Oscar]

They're like, Moses, you want a tart, bro? Did you respond?

[Moses]

Yeah, just to give them my information.

[Oscar]

Oh, okay.

[Moses]

What they sent.

[Oscar]

Are you going to wear it?

[Moses]

Well, I don't know what they're sending.

[Oscar]

Oh, what do you think it is? Makeup.

[Moses]

There must be. There must be things for men. You know, little men's grooming, something for my hair, maybe.

[Oscar]

You love a hair product these days. Yeah, Tarp bro. Okay. I love that. I can see you in that. That'd be cute.

[Moses]

We love Tarte, me and Aquaman. Will. Yeah, the boys.

[Trisha Paytas]

I can't. They. I don't know. They have some tarte bro, like, posts and stuff, but I can't tell what the product is.

[Oscar]

Maybe it's something new.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Huh.

[Oscar]

Ooh, I can't wait to get it. I love when Moses gets packaging, like, addressed to him. You got a Jimmy John's one? You got Jimmy John's. You got. What else?

[Moses]

I get a lot of tin fish, Mr.

[Oscar]

Beast. Oh, tin fish. Yum. Okay, well, we love a little PR tarp, bro. I love that. You check the dms. I logged into Moses Instagram, so like, sometimes, like, DMS will pop up on mine. Like, it'll be like, I'm on my account, but it'll say, like, someone sent you a message so it shows his, which is, like, so weird. So sometimes I accidentally click on it because It'll like, pop up and I think it's mine. And then I'm like, oh, so I did see the tart one because I thought it was mine. And I was like, oh, it's to Moses. Like, that's so weird. But I love to see that if you. If you respond. I never really check because you don't really respond to many people. But I like to see what's up for there.

[Trisha Paytas]

I need to get better at checking dms. I miss stuff all the time.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I do too, actually, even. But I do go to Moses and be like, say hi to Trish. I'm like, oh, I should just respond and be like, it is Trish.

[Moses]

Well, I know it's weird words. If you do, then it encourages people to send me more.

[Oscar]

Oh, shoot.

[Moses]

I do get a lot of things that are addressed to you.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Flooded.

[Moses]

I also send it to Trish, but in case, you know, you might see it.

[Oscar]

Oh, I think that did work though. I did see someone say that and I, like, followed up with them. Yeah, I think that did work. Check those dms. You never know what you're gonna miss. You could have missed Darian. I could have missed Moses.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're right about that. Yeah.

[Oscar]

T. I probably would have missed Moses's. It was that day I was. I became aware of him and then I was like, oh, let me see if this person ever messaged me. And then like, he just happened to message me like the hour before. Otherwise I probably would have missed it, cuz I never checked.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow.

[Oscar]

Yeah. But it's amazing you checked yours too.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess I also had like, less back then. I had less and less going on, so.

[Oscar]

Right. It was like quarantine.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Such a good time to meet someone.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

To be like, h, let's just not do anything together.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess I remember in 2020, it was like all the apps, like, took the, like the radiuses away. So you can make it like, you can put your location. Yeah. So people were talking like across the country and so that's kind of cut.

[Oscar]

Yeah. The radius thing is. Is beneficial, I guess, but. Yeah. You want to open it up.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Although I guess Raya doesn't have the radius thing right.

[Oscar]

Like, it's just all over.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think so.

[Oscar]

Yeah. I always wondered back in any fiance how they found like some of those people find they're like, oh, we met on an app. It's like, were they all on a foreign dating site? Or was it like they set their tinders to like, London or something?

[Trisha Paytas]

And a lot of things Were like.

[Moses]

Back then were like Facebook and things like that.

[Oscar]

I didn't get so many 90 day fiance people on here. But you have to like go through tlc. Like Jasmine, do you know her? Jasmine Gino? She just had a baby and I was trying to get her on there and we were dming but then she go, you have to go through TLC. I was like, ugh, no, I can't go through TLC. But I do love 90 fans. I have so many questions. I don't know how many they can answer honestly. But also like, how do you get on the show? Like is it real? Does the show help or hurt your career, your relationship? So many questions. I guess people like make a full on career off of it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know big, big ed T I got. I've always wondered how much it pays because like some of them are still like, you know, struggling to like say at the move in with family and stuff because they're struggle. But I'm like. So I'm like, are they just paying nothing right on the show?

[Oscar]

But it seems that way because people do always are complaining on the show about money. And I was like, we have a whole TV cast with you, like crew with you. Like they should be paying for this stuff.

[Moses]

Yeah, but reality tv, you're the least evaluated person.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I guess you get like spent offs like Darcy and Stacy. They probably make some decent money.

[Moses]

If you have good social media presence.

[Oscar]

They always go to surgery. You know what, they always get their surgery done in Turkey. And I just saw Matt from Matt and Abby get his hairline done in Turkey.

[Trisha Paytas]

Everyone's going.

[Moses]

Mike did too.

[Oscar]

Mike Mayak. I want to say Zayn Hajazi might have gone over to Turkey to get his done because he's talked about it. I wonder why. Well, I guess the cost. Matt was saying that it was going to be $20,000 here for a hair transplant. Over there it's 3500 and that includes your airfare, your hotel and the surgery. How's that even possible? 3,500 is extremely cheap. Is that even like a ticket?

[Trisha Paytas]

T? I heard someone who was on Love is Blind. He was the one that was dating the girl who said she looks like Megan Fox. That guy Jimmy. A lot of Jimmies, a lot of Jimmy.

[Oscar]

Jimmy Cricket. Jiminy Glick.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who is Jiminy Glick?

[Oscar]

Martin Short. Oh, isn't that his character where he was in a fat suit?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think I have no idea.

[Oscar]

He was like a late night talk to host and he was like fat and it was Martin Short.

[Trisha Paytas]

Problematic I guess hindsight, but he said, I think he quoted it was like maybe like 11,000 in America and then like 6, 5 or 6,000 in Turkey. But I'd rather just do it here. I don't want to deal with flying and then. Right.

[Oscar]

That's what I think too. But I don't know. Everyone's caught me on this turkey kick, as we all know. I want to get my implants out. Like do I just want to get my implants out? It sounds you have some Turkish blood in you. It's like, you know, because some see family while we're over there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like it could be a thing I've seen. I think I saw a tick tock where it was like someone coming back from Turkey in the airport and it was like all the guys with like the bandits. Yeah.

[Oscar]

Oh, that's so interesting. And maybe they're specifically known for hair transplants over there. There.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses]

Yeah, Some people take it as a vacation too. So they do the recovery in over there.

[Oscar]

Yeah, they said it's like a. Matt was saying it was like a five star hotel and stuff. Yeah. People taking care of you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Influenced by Matt. Matt and Abby is crazy.

[Oscar]

His hair transplant looked good. I was like, you know what? I love when guys are real about it too. I feel like something that was like people never talked about. Now people are like, like I said, Mike talked about it, Zane talked about it. I mean I think Manny and Jeffrey were like the first two to talk about hair transplants. It looks good so it like it stimulates so your own hair grows. Is that what it is?

[Trisha Paytas]

What the follicles are just like skin grafted. Yeah.

[Moses]

They move them from one part to the other.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's pretty cool.

[Oscar]

Technology is bundle and safe.

[Trisha Paytas]

With Expedia you were made to follow your favorite band and from the front row we were made to quietly save you more Expedia made to travel savings vary and subject to availability. Flight inclusive packages are at all protected.

[Oscar]

What people are doing these days. Well, still don't like the Matt Nabi podcast, but I like that you were real about it. You know they're a million babies so congrats to them.

[Trisha Paytas]

Another one?

[Oscar]

Yeah. They're pregnant with baby number three.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh. Hopefully he's nicer to her after this one.

[Oscar]

Well, yeah, we hope so. Oh my God. Hopefully they just stop posting stuff like that where it's just like I was so exhausted. I couldn't go. I'm like, oh my gosh.

[Trisha Paytas]

Hillary Duff coming back to music. I'm very excited about this.

[Oscar]

Me Too.

[Trisha Paytas]

It got me really reflecting on how much I loved Hillary Duff's music.

[Oscar]

She. I was on this to Moses. I. Because I actually just brought this up to him randomly. I was just like, oh, my gosh, she just signed. This is huge. It means come on. The music. And he didn't quite understand. He didn't grasp the excitement behind it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. It was a pop music emergency finding out that she assigned to Atlantic.

[Oscar]

Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Because dare I say, I don't think she's ever had a bad era. Maybe she's had some eras less popular than others, but I have loved Hilary Duff era.

[Oscar]

Oh, God. And the music. Wake up, wake up.

[Trisha Paytas]

Honestly, I was rewatching.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I love it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I went down the rabbit hole and started rewatching music videos. Very girl and gay watching music videos.

[Oscar]

Yes. Let's do that next.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it. I love when in Wake up when she comes out with a bob like and the little beret like she's serving. It's Everything's a serv. That song is so freaking good.

[Oscar]

So good. And the one where she's like Good Morning America live where she's like in the morning with love, love, love, love.

[Trisha Paytas]

Let's do with love dance break.

[Oscar]

It's so. I want to learn that choreo. It's so good. Cuz people like at first were like, yes. Give us nothing but honestly gave us everything to just do it so effortlessly. Just like, like it's giving.

[Moses]

She's the one in the class when she's just stunts the teacher with her vocals.

[Oscar]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

When. Raise your voice. Yes. And the power of Whitney just. She. Whitney. Whitney Houston just channels Hillary Duff and she just hit all the different voices.

[Oscar]

Yes. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like I always. Also, also, I watched the Our Lips are Sealed music video with Hillary and Haley Duff and it was giving you and Tana vibes. So I think you guys should prosper at some point.

[Oscar]

Okay, we will do that. That's so good material, girls. Amazing.

[Trisha Paytas]

All her movies are so good.

[Oscar]

All the music telling Liz is so good.

[Trisha Paytas]

So good. And even her laugh with her last album, Breathe In, Breathe out.

[Oscar]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Was such a good album. It was slept on.

[Oscar]

But the visuals of that one was so good. Like I. I do love the See. Yes. So yesterday where she's like in her black tank with the rocker and the bands like I love.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Oscar]

That what was the one from not the Dreams are made up, but it was from Lizzie McGuire. Why not?

[Trisha Paytas]

Why not? You always dress in yellow when you want to dress in gold. Instead of listening to your heart, you do just what you're told.

[Oscar]

There may never be a sign of flashing neon light telling you to make.

[Trisha Paytas]

Your move or if the time is right. So why not? Why not take a crazy chance, people? When you actually listen to the lyrics, it's kind of life changing.

[Oscar]

What's the one where it's like, oh, God. It's the one where it's like, if.

[Trisha Paytas]

The light is off, then it isn't on.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

At least not today. Not today. Not today.

[Oscar]

That's so good. If the light is off that it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is over, let it go. And when you wake up, it'll seem so yesterday. Which is so true. If you are going through, like some kind of drama, some kind of breakup, some kind of something thing. Like, if it's over, let it go. And when you wake up, it will seem so yesterday. And it is literally figuratively.

[Oscar]

I love the. The rain.

[Trisha Paytas]

Let the rain fall down and wake my dreams. Let it wash away. Like, I think if someone gave like a sermon, like say you went to church or something, and the priest was just like reciting these lyrics and making it seem like it was Bible verses. T. I think it's Bible verses. It would make sense.

[Oscar]

Sense.

[Trisha Paytas]

It would make sense.

[Oscar]

I'm so excited she's making music. I just really feel like, yeah, these. These divas making a comeback. I just like, I love it all.

[Trisha Paytas]

I do too. And breathe. I remember when I met her, it was when Breathe and Breathe out just came out. And I was working at Access Hollywood and back then they would kind of send me. I was doing like the Instagram or whatever, so they would send me to get like a little photo. Of who? The guests who were there. And I couldn't even help it. I'd be like, hillary, I just have to tell you, you. That Breathe in, Breathe out got me through such a tough time. And she was. She was sitting down. She literally was like. She stood up. She, like hugged me. And then she also, like, kept my head there next to her. And I was like, oh, my God.

[Oscar]

She was so sweet.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's like.

[Oscar]

She held it. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

She was like, that is so sweet. Thank you so much. And I was like, that album is so good. It is so good.

[Oscar]

She's an icon. Her anti gay. We love.

[Trisha Paytas]

Honestly, Jeff Wittek needs to listen to the Hillary. When you say that's okay, do you really need to?

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I think that would change his life. I think that would change justice.

[Oscar]

She was good. She. She really ate with everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

She ate every role, every TV show, every movie. I love her so good. She thank God for Hilary Duff because we wouldn't have your acting skills be what they are because I, Hillary Duff, laid the foundation.

[Oscar]

Very true. Oh, very true. I feel like all my acting is Hillary coated. Anything I act is because of her.

[Trisha Paytas]

You did a little. What?

[Oscar]

Yeah, I wanted to be here so bad.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, yes, yes.

[Oscar]

No, we can't do that. Like, what are you talking about? I love it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Even your mouth is so funny.

[Oscar]

It's such a Cinderella story. That was Acting Class 101 for me. Like, I just loved it because, like, waiting on you is like waiting for rain in this drought. Useless and disappointed. Yes. Yes. So good. Oh, she's so good. I need to rewatch that movie.

[Trisha Paytas]

We were so bad, too.

[Oscar]

We got to do a cosplay of that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. Yeah.

[Oscar]

She was so good. I love the movie poster where she had, like, the apron, but then the Cinderella's dress. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And did she have her converse on, too? Yes.

[Oscar]

And she wore the baseball cap. The LA baseball cap in the show.

[Trisha Paytas]

God, I love Hillary Duff.

[Oscar]

I love the comeback. I love that it is. I really feel Grammy for her, for real. Like, I really see it happening.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, honestly, I still cannot believe that Disney plus or Hulu, whatever, killed the Lizzie McGuire reboot. That is still so crazy to me.

[Oscar]

And why did they do that? Because they have, like, photos. Like, they filmed.

[Trisha Paytas]

They filmed.

[Oscar]

Like, where is it?

[Trisha Paytas]

I didn't like the direction it was going where Lizzie McGuire was more like an adult who was like, you know, having sex and stuff. Like, they wanted her to still be like Disney. Like a Disney Channel fied adult.

[Oscar]

Was she having sex on the show?

[Trisha Paytas]

It was just like a adult, like, relationship. I don't think it was, like, sex scenes, but, like, implied, you know, crazy.

[Oscar]

But yeah, it was for Disney plus.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was. I think so. Or Hulu. I forgot which one. But they didn't like the direction it was going. But it's so weird now because Disney plus and Hulu are combined. And if you go on Disney, Disney plus, there's a crazy shows. Like, a Nora is on Disney.

[Oscar]

Yeah, we love. But also, like, what?

[Trisha Paytas]

It's crazy.

[Oscar]

Yeah. And the Gorda was in it right with her, the original Gordo. And I was like, how do we want to see?

[Trisha Paytas]

We need to Release the Lizzie McGuire pilot, please.

[Oscar]

So there was one episode shot, you think?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think they filmed a couple because there was paparazzi. There was, like, paparazzi photos of them filming scenes and stuff, so.

[Oscar]

And if she would have been singing in it, because I think we Finished. She write the dozen the other day. And there's, like, a Hillary Duff song in the credits. I'm like, I period.

[Trisha Paytas]

You cannot have a Hillary Duff movie and all have a Hilary Duff song.

[Oscar]

So good. What was the other one, too? The Heather Locklear. It's her mom raising Helen. No, That's K. Hudson. Mr. Oh, God. What was it?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. I know exactly what you're talking about.

[Oscar]

Yeah. It's like Mr. Big is in it.

[Trisha Paytas]

God. I remember because I had the book, like, I had the. The book adaptation. The Perfect Man.

[Oscar]

The Perfect Man. And she had her songs in there, too. And she was such a good actress in that, too, with her mom. Like, I just think she's so. So. Yeah. All her songs were everything and more. I love her. I love her.

[Trisha Paytas]

Me too.

[Oscar]

Well, I'm happy for.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because Lindsay Lohan also had, like, the. Her own renaissance. And I think Hilary Duff is. Oh, her renaissance as well.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I think that's. I think it is always there for her. Like you said, she. She just, like, took steps back. Like, I feel like she was true.

[Trisha Paytas]

She never really went away because she did do that How I Met yout Mother spin off.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And that was pretty popular. So she's still, like, been around Josh podcast. Oh, yeah.

[Oscar]

Love that she was on there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, exactly. So she didn't really take it. I think she chose, like, to focus. Yeah.

[Oscar]

She had four kids.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think so, right?

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Four kids.

[Oscar]

Wow. Because she had, like, one when she was pretty young.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I want. Her oldest is 12 years old.

[Oscar]

Wow. 12 years old. And then she just had a baby, like, this year.

[Trisha Paytas]

2024. Last year. Yeah. I guess. Speaking of reboots, too, Kristen Dunst has shot down a Bring it on reboot slash sequel. She got Denny Directo from ET Shout Out Astro about it. Which is weird because there's been so many Bring it on sequels. Just different. Yeah. There's like, the Hayden Penitentia. Yeah. Yeah. There's so many.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

But nothing can ever beat the original 2000 Kristen Duns.

[Oscar]

That's really good for her. I love when you can, like, turn down a project because it's probably so easy to say yes, but these reboots, I don't know. Sometimes it is kind of worth it to say no.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And I guess. How could you? I don't know if you could ever top it. I really don't.

[Oscar]

Especially that one. Like, she's obviously not gonna be the high school cheerleader, so what is she getting back as, like, a mom? Like, I don't know. She's so iconic in that role. So I was just like, maybe just leave it there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah. I didn't also, like, I don't. The whole thing with, like, the Compton Clovers versus the Ranch, the Palace Ranch or whatever, that definitely couldn't be 2025 too.

[Oscar]

I'm just, like, stealing their moves is like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah. So that would be another weird dynamic. But damn. Bring it on was the first PG13 movie I ever saw. And I felt so cool, like, on the playground after seeing that.

[Oscar]

Wait, why were you, like, acting it out or you just felt the character?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think all the cool girls saw it. And then I remember, like, feeling edgy, like, oh, I'm seeing a PG13 movie, and I must have been, like, how old? I guess have been like, 10 or something, because it was out on, like. Or whatever it was.

[Oscar]

So you, like, watch it at home?

[Trisha Paytas]

At home? Yeah. Not in the theater, but I remember the theater.

[Oscar]

The first. I think I might have been, like, too old to be this. My first one in theaters, but I think it was Sugar and Spice was my first one. Do you remember that one? It was also, like, a cheerleader movie, but they, like, robbed. Yeah, they were like heists. They were like, in these things. I remember seeing that in theaters and being like, whoa. I might have been, like, probably 14 or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Girl, you don't have to sneak in.

[Oscar]

I know. I don't know why. What year did that come out? Maybe check it. Maybe I was yet. No, I wasn't. Because I remember. I mean, I watched Pulp Fiction when I was 6, so I don't know if. If I was like that scandalous to see Sugar and Spice, but maybe 2001. 2001. So, yeah. Oh, I was 13. Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Word.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I was 13. So maybe that's illegal. Maybe that was it. Maybe it was the first time I could go without my mom because we got checked when we were younger. Did you?

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess I never went to the movies by myself or with my parents.

[Oscar]

Texas Chainsaw Massacre, they, like, asked how old we were, and we're like, we.

[Trisha Paytas]

Never saw a rated R movie, really, Until. Yeah. Yeah. Because I never liked violence or, like, anything graphic. I didn't really.

[Oscar]

We never did either. But my mom was like, let's go see Texas Chainsaw Massacre. And my sister. And I was like, maybe, I don't know, 12 or so. I don't know how old I was. My sister was definitely, like, eight. And we were, like, terrified. We left halfway through the movie, and we're like, Ah, we like, I think we've all been like, even to this day, we're so scared of anyone's in the house. And I think it was that movie that like terrified us of like jump scares and stuff like that. Because we like, we slept in the same bed. Maybe I was like older, maybe it was like 2001 or something. So maybe I was like. I guess I'd been 13 the same year. So I, I think I was just like so scared. We slept in the same bed. So from like literally like 13 to like 18, we never slept in a different bed than my mom because I was so scared of that movie. I still am. It's always just like, you know, I mean realistic. No, but it's just like scared if like Moses in the house.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm like, ah, I don't like a chainsaw.

[Oscar]

Will you go to those horror nights? They. They chase you with chainsaws there?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And you can smell the gas too. When they do the chainsaw.

[Oscar]

It's real chainsaws.

[Trisha Paytas]

They're not like operating, but they are like, they rev it and you smell the gas.

[Oscar]

Absolutely not. I would literally pass out. Like, what do you mean? No, I hate that. That's crazy. But you like those. You like the horror nights.

[Trisha Paytas]

So it is camp to me. I don't know why. It goes kind of against everything. I am into like jump scares and stuff. But it's so. There's something so camp about being scared by people, like in the costumes and stuff. Although they sell now. I saw a tick tock that you can buy, buy like this flashing light necklace or whatever so they can't scare you.

[Oscar]

Oh, okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

But then they come and make fun of you for being so. I don't know what's worse then they.

[Oscar]

Just bully you like, you loser.

[Trisha Paytas]

This girl on TikTok, she went and like, she's like, I'm gonna test this like necklace to see if it works. And they come and she would show them the necklace and they would just make roaster to her face.

[Oscar]

Oh my God. Okay. All of it sounds awful. Don't like that time of year. No, thank you. Absolutely something that I know because we were coming home from the demi party and we saw the advertisement. Like, you know that like. Yeah, definitely.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was like, what five nights at Freddy's is that horror Nights?

[Oscar]

Oh yeah. I mean that does look exciting. But no, sounds terrifying. Do you think Freddy Fazbear is there and he scares you?

[Trisha Paytas]

They must, right? Maybe they do the little song can't.

[Oscar]

Wait to meet you is that from Five Nights at Freddy or someone just.

[Trisha Paytas]

I remember when you were doing it. Someone said it wasn't in the game nor the film. But McKenna Grace, the actress, she is in the new Five Nights at the sequel Five Nights at Freddy, and she did a tick tock to the. The sound recently.

[Oscar]

Maybe it's in the.

[Trisha Paytas]

So maybe they added it.

[Oscar]

Yeah, it's very. What was it? Gaga? Like season one of Wednesday. They used her song, the Dance. Last Dance.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, well, a tick tock edit used Bloody Mary to Jenna Ortega dancing. And then, yeah, in the sequel.

[Oscar]

So it wasn't even in the show.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wasn't even in the show.

[Oscar]

Is that crazy? So that's probably what Friday Nights at Freddy was probably. Like no one. Or there's another one that was like, hey, kids, nice to each other. Do you remember. Remember that one? Are you looking for some fazberry pizza?

[Trisha Paytas]

Who's this?

[Oscar]

And I'm like, is it from Five Nights at Freddy or someone just made it up?

[Moses]

You should ask that if it was an old commercial. So it's not.

[Oscar]

It's not like, no, it's from Five Nights at Freddy, but everyone's saying it's not in the game either. Like, my sister thinks that it wasn't in the game. Oh, but I remember it's like such a trend. When we met during quarantine, everyone was doing that trend. I think I did it, too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is there a Five Nights at Freddy musical? Because that's kind of tea. Where are all these songs coming from?

[Oscar]

I know. I don't know know, but they're just making like. Someone just made up these songs. That's so weird.

[Moses]

Why was the Tik Tok musical? There was a moment where people making their own.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh.

[Oscar]

And then it got shut down.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. I forgot about that.

[Oscar]

Everybody wanted it to be so real. And Disney's like, no, I forgot about that.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is so funny.

[Oscar]

Remy. The rat. The rat of all my dreams. I loved it so much.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Oscar]

Ratatouille. But I loved the musical version.

[Trisha Paytas]

You never saw Ratatouille?

[Oscar]

No, it's about a mouse in France.

[Trisha Paytas]

See, I guess if you're in White Lotus, you got to see Ratatouille.

[Oscar]

I really love this manifestation. For me, to me, like, not even, like, out there, but okay to me.

[Trisha Paytas]

I just like, yeah, I think I just like, oh, it's happening. I don't know why. I just. Oh, my God.

[Oscar]

I love it now. I'm like, is it every time someone has, like, this. These visions, I'm like, is this Happening. Okay. Someone else said something to me the other day. I forgot what it was and I'm like, oh, I don't. Do you know something that I don't? It's so weird.

[Trisha Paytas]

Kind of like Dancing with the Stars too. In my head, you were the alternate that, like, Lauren from Fifth Harmony had to replace.

[Oscar]

Oh, my God. Did we ever talk about. I mean, it's not tea, but kind of tea. I was kind of gagged.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah. When did. The past week is such a blur. When did I even send you this?

[Oscar]

I, like over a week ago.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, really?

[Oscar]

Maybe, maybe not.

[Trisha Paytas]

I have no idea. But there was this TikTok that was like a scooper, a TikTok detective that was trying to figure out, like, because Julianne Huff went on a podcast and said there was a celebrity that was cast on Dancing with the Stars who was like, too, like, controversial. Almost too controversial. And they lost her and then replaced her with Lauren from Fifth Harmony because Lauren said that she found out like two days before the cast announcement that she was going to do Dancing with.

[Oscar]

The Stars, which makes it make sense because on the hot topic, like, why didn't she have a photo? Oh, that is weird. So then it made sense. Sense because she just found out.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Prior and then a tick tock sleuth found out that it was likely going to be. What's his name? Bill Belichick.

[Oscar]

Is that his Bill Belichick?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Ex or current girlfriend?

[Trisha Paytas]

Girlfriend. Jordan, the younger girlfriend who's like, you know, running his ship like the Navy? Yeah.

[Oscar]

Like, what do you mean she's gonna be on Dancing with the Stars? That's crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

But in my head, as I was listening, like, before I got to, like, the answer when Julianne Huff's like, it's someone who's really controversial. I was like, is she about to say Trisha?

[Oscar]

I magic not controversial. She's dead. Okay? That girl does not exist.

[Trisha Paytas]

We are not that life.

[Oscar]

Yes, absolutely.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's just so crazy that it was like, Jordan, what is her last name?

[Oscar]

So they found out because, like, was it on tv? They just didn't take away her name.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, I get. Yeah, like in the credits or whatever. Whatever.

[Oscar]

That is crazy. I don't know where it was. They showed like a, like a thing, like a description and her name was there and I was like, who didn't take it off? Like, that's so funny that she's like, leave it on. So I mean, that's love. Dancing with the Stars. I'm happy to be on anytime you need me. Okay. I'll be there. But also, what, like, more wise, I get. They're. They're a phenomenon, obviously. Yeah. They're on abc, obviously. Alex girl is, like, the biggest influencer who's not mainstream, you know, Irwin to panga. Okay. Yeah. Yes. They're all. Yes. But if you're like, the girlfriend of someone, kind of. Is he famous? I don't know. Are you famous just because you have a young girlfriend and you're so old? I don't know. Like, this is, like, now. We're stretching. We're stretching it a lot, actually. That's like. That's crazy. That's crazy that I guess they. They just not cast her then ultimately. Or she said no. She's like, no.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know what they said. Let me see if there's any.

[Oscar]

Why was she on that little description? Like, she must have been solidified at some point.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Oh, okay. So the Daily Mail reported in May that she was a pro approached to join the series. Oh, it said. The source. Ideally, Mail said she will likely decline as it will be in the fall, the same time Bill will be coaching, and she wants to be there for sure. It was a she. Okay. She chose her man over or her career.

[Oscar]

I feel like, like you said, she's.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's running it.

[Oscar]

She's.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's like the ghost writer of coaching.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, coach. She's the ghost coach because she goes, like, to his games and stuff and, like, is the one. And I. I think they got mad at her because she was, like, trying to make the calls and plays and stuff, which I love. I love that she's there. Like, she has the hat on, and she's just like, no, this. We got to switch it up. Let's switch it up.

[Oscar]

Why is she doing that? Is he, like, not, like, well enough to, like, is he not competent to do it? Like, I don't understand, like, why he's old, but I.

[Trisha Paytas]

If he got the job, he must be. And some people were thinking that it, like, ruins his leg. Like, coaching legacy or. I don't know anything about football, but.

[Oscar]

I don't even know who he is. Like, what's he do? What's he famous for a Super Bowl?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think he's won, like, super. Like, a lot of Super Bowls. Yeah.

[Oscar]

What's he. Who's he coach?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think it was. What's his name? Oh, my God. This is the gayest thing ever. But Giselle. Ex husband. Tom Brady.

[Oscar]

Yeah, those were. That was the big ones, huh?

[Trisha Paytas]

Let me see how many.

[Oscar]

Check it Sounds familiar. I only know because of the dating.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's won a record eight Super Bowls in the NFL. Six as head coach of the New England Patriots and two as defensive coordinator as the New England New York Giants. I guess that is kind of a legacy.

[Oscar]

Is it? Isn't there like 50 Super Bowls and you only won eight?

[Trisha Paytas]

But it's a record for a coach to win eight.

[Oscar]

That doesn't seem that great.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess the track. You know what I mean?

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, I feel like the ratio.

[Oscar]

If there's 50 Super Bowls and he's been coaching 30 years and you only won eight out of your 30 years, probably longer maybe. Right? He's 70 something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Let me see.

[Oscar]

I don't know. I feel like.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess he should win more like p. Like NFL. Okay. But the record for most super bowl wins by a team is six.

[Oscar]

Okay, but Seth Rogan won 12 Emmys last night. In one night. 13. Okay, there you go. He won more in one night.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I think it's harder to win a Super bowl than an Emmy because Emmy you could. You could be nominated for like 20 in a night, you know, I mean, I guess.

[Oscar]

I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

That doesn't sound super bowl. And maybe like an egot, because an ego is kind of hard to get because you got to win all. Because you have to win so much to get to the super bowl and then you got to win the Super Bowl. Right?

[Oscar]

I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Football stands. Let us know in the comments below.

[Oscar]

I disagree. What about Steve Madden? How many has.

[Trisha Paytas]

He won't see Madden. The shoe. The shoe, I think.

[Oscar]

Oh, I mean, John Madden, right? Madden football. Na sports. You're in the game. My brother used to play it all the time.

[Trisha Paytas]

Madden football.

[Oscar]

Madden Super Bowl.

[Trisha Paytas]

John Madden.

[Oscar]

John Madden, yeah. How many Super Bowls?

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar]

I have to be like 10.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, the record is sick, so it can't be any.

[Oscar]

Are you sure? Using AI. They don't know everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm just using Google.

[Moses]

Yeah, six is a lot for. In one person's career.

[Trisha Paytas]

He won the first ever. She was Super bowl in 1977.

[Oscar]

John Madden, I think. Damn. Okay, that's kind of impressive. That's more. I feel like that's more legendary than Bill Belichick.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is pretty.

[Oscar]

He played too, you know, I mean the coaches. I don't know. I don't want to be like disrespectful, but do the coaches do that much? You know, I mean, like, just shouldn't Tom Brady be more worshiped because he actually played?

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't Know, but the coaches are the ones that have to, like, come up with the plate, like, the strategy, and then it's a. I don't know. It's like, I. Are the athletes, like, the. The pieces, and then the.

[Moses]

Have a good player. You know, you have to know how to use it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

How to position them in a place where they can.

[Oscar]

I feel like that's easier than playing. I feel like I could position. Obviously, Bill Belichick's girlfriend can do it. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, yeah, yeah.

[Oscar]

She has, like, probably no prior experience. Like, oh, you're a good quarterbacker. You kick it, whatever. You know what I mean? Like, I feel like that's easy. You have good play players. It's like, even directors, like, again, I respect all. But, you know, it's. Isn't it easy to direct someone like Leonard DiCaprio who's just a good actor? Like. Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. I think it obviously helped. Like. Of course, yeah.

[Oscar]

Needed.

[Moses]

But what if all the actors around him are horrible? He can't carry the movie by himself.

[Oscar]

I guess you see in TV shows a lot. Like, Melissa McCarthy would direct a lot of Mike and Molly's. And you're like, oh, has she ever directed. Directed before? And it's like, obviously killed it. Crushed it. But also, like, isn't it kind of easy if, like, all the actors kind of know what they're doing? Or maybe I'm way wrong. I don't know. I've never directed.

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel like directing kind of has to, because it's also not just the actors. It's like, there's so many things you got to think about. Like, there's a big thing with the lighting and the. I don't know, there's like.

[Moses]

To create an atmosphere, like, certain.

[Trisha Paytas]

The placement, like the block.

[Moses]

When I studied cinema, there were some students that were just incredible. For some reason, they. Their project looked a certain way and others didn't. Like, they have a. No, they have a vision of what makes something look a certain way. Think about Tarantino or Tim Burton or.

[Oscar]

But yeah, of course. I mean, they're obviously amazing, but I'm just saying.

[Moses]

Right. But the same thing in sports. It's the same thing. But a lot of players do end up becoming coaches after they have a certain insight into. I didn't know names.

[Oscar]

I don't know.

[Moses]

Just like, a lot of actors become directors because they have a certain age that I see.

[Oscar]

But I never knew, like, an athlete to become a coach.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think it's because you also can't physically play for forever because you're the toll on your body. So. And a lot of them become like, Jason Kelce became a commentator after he retired. So that makes sense, I guess. Yeah. But you were a director. So what was like directing Moses? Was it easy or.

[Oscar]

Yes, I. That's what I was thinking, actually. When Trish talks to me, it was like, I can act, like, also tell the angle, the lighting. Like, I can say all of it. Like, I know what's good. Like, when we were laying down, I knew what angle looked good. Like, I mean, it just comes naturally, I guess, to me, by this figure. And it would come naturally to everybody. You know what I mean? Like coaching myself or Moses. Like, I could direct anyone. You can direct anyone to be a good actor, I would assume. I guess that makes a good director then. Which means I'm a good director. Yeah, I guess so. Yeah. I don't know. Okay.

[Moses]

There's a long list of players that became coaches, but just give me. We don't know any of them. Larry Bird.

[Oscar]

You don't know him? What team?

[Moses]

I actually know him. I don't know why. He play basketball, I think.

[Oscar]

Yes. For the Boston Celtics. I only know because, like, my dad was so into basketball and he played in the 90s. It was like Larry Bird, Scotty Pippen, Mark Price, like, all these people. And I was just like, I don't. Dennis Rodman.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. I feel like he could also have just he list names and.

[Oscar]

Right, yeah. Okay, that sounds good.

[Moses]

I'm looking at. The list is long. These are all players that became coaches.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, okay.

[Oscar]

So you kind of just took a guess and you were right.

[Moses]

No, I knew that. I just don't know names. I don't remember names. Pop culture.

[Oscar]

But do you know athletes?

[Moses]

Sports? No, I don't know the names. I just know that's a pop culture.

[Oscar]

But do you know athletes in general? Like, do you know. Do you watch sports?

[Moses]

No, I did not watch sports.

[Oscar]

Oh, so how do you know that?

[Moses]

It just makes sense.

[Oscar]

Oh, okay. That's what I'm saying. So you just. Logic. You use logic. You're like. That makes sense. You didn't know for sure.

[Moses]

I knew for sure. I didn't know names, who and where.

[Oscar]

How did you know for sure? You never watched the sports?

[Moses]

Because it's not. When you watch a game you don't want, somebody becomes a coach.

[Oscar]

It's more like I would never know. I feel like I've watched probably more sports than you in my life because of my dad and my brother. And I had no idea. I wouldn't even put that logic together. So that's why I was trying to figure out how you knew this.

[Moses]

I think it's common knowledge.

[Oscar]

Well, obviously, I didn't know that. That's pretty impressive. I'm impressed by you. I was just trying to figure out how you knew all that.

[Moses]

I just think of somebody has so much experience. They have. They have the. I think in soccer. I mostly knew about it from soccer because my dad used to watch soccer all the time.

[Oscar]

Right. It is very international soccer. People like to watch. Cristiano Ronaldo. Probably the most paid athlete, huh?

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe. Yeah.

[Oscar]

Someone told me once that they paid him, like, $7 million. It was an international commercial for him to show up for, like, literally, like, an hour in front of a green screen, and they paid him $7 million to, like, advertise this product in, like, a different country.

[Trisha Paytas]

Damn. He's very influential.

[Oscar]

Probably more so than Mr. Beast.

[Trisha Paytas]

Don't tell Mr. Beast.

[Oscar]

Who's more influential? Mr. Beast, Cristiano Ronaldo or Caleb Heron?

[Moses]

He is the highest pair.

[Oscar]

Oh, wow. I knowing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Look at you.

[Oscar]

He's just everywhere. And that ring he just got his fiance as.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I guess it depends who you ask us, right?

[Oscar]

Caleb influences us more than anyone.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, again, very genuinely so.

[Oscar]

Yeah, Yeah. I don't think Mr.

[Trisha Paytas]

Beast influences, but besides, I guess the order honestly, would be Caleb, Mr. Beast, and then Cristiano Ronaldo. As far as, like, I never see what Cristiano Ronaldo is up to. Mr. Beast, I see definitely more than Cristiano and then Caleb, I see the most. Yeah, that's a tough one.

[Oscar]

Who are you influenced the most by right now? Ooh, like, give you a million. They give them a million dollars, so they influence your life.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is such a good. Quite. I would probably say, honestly, is Jen McAllister is probably still the most. Yeah, this is me the most.

[Oscar]

What are you watching her on?

[Trisha Paytas]

Twitch and YouTube. And honestly, it's. I don't know if it's just the neurodivergence, but, like, I'll. Even if I have nothing to watch, I'll just replay because I've seen literally every one of her YouTube videos at this point, but I'll just rewatch.

[Oscar]

Wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

Okay. Okay. And what did she influence you lately as?

[Trisha Paytas]

Just, it's, you know, when you just absorb people's, like, the way they talk and stuff. And also, like, every game she plays, I like, whenever I stream again, I'll just play whatever she plays. I'll just reheat her nachos.

[Oscar]

Okay. Okay. So that's your number.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love the Gen X Pen nacho. Yeah, I order those Gen X Pen nachos anytime I go to stream. Yeah.

[Oscar]

Extra sour cream. I get mine on the side always. Wow. I don't even know who mine is. Who am I influenced by right now? I'm. I'm easily influenced. Who? I know everyone, but like, who's who?

[Moses]

Anyone that's on the screen in front.

[Oscar]

Of you, I know that is if.

[Moses]

There'S a girl with a bag, she wants the bag. I did a dress.

[Oscar]

I ordered a green bag cuz dropped.

[Trisha Paytas]

I.

[Moses]

Did you not see me?

[Oscar]

I was like scrolling.

[Moses]

I was like, surprised. Like, she hasn't said anything about this bag. I'm surprised I haven't seen a story of her looking for this bag.

[Oscar]

I ordered the Chloe Paddington bag in green. It's a new color. Oh my God. And they were eating Whopper on Drop Dead Diva. Those. Remember those malt balls called Whoppers?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Oscar]

And I literally was like, where can I get a box of those? Like, they look so good.

[Trisha Paytas]

I forgot about those.

[Oscar]

Me too. But they still sell them at like cvs.

[Moses]

Yeah. When I go to the store, I see them.

[Oscar]

I never seen those at all. Those I am but like influencer. I'm trying to think who I'm influenced by. Oh, Ms. Remy Ashton with those Domino's ads. Domino's ads. Every single week. Every single. I love when you share.

[Trisha Paytas]

You just share them your story. Now, now they're definitely gonna. Because now it's a freaking two for one. They're getting Remy and then they know Trisha's got a freaking repost. So.

[Oscar]

Right. I'm into it. I'm like, give me. But can I say I. Yeah. The Domino's. That does influence me. Everything she does kind of influences me. I guess I do watch everything she's into.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I'm trying to think who. Oh, I think Jen is definitely like the number one me. Darian. And I started watching this one youtuber who goes to hotels and like he goes for like 24 hours just like review them. And he did your guys's underwater Maldives.

[Oscar]

Who was Darian?

[Trisha Paytas]

We. No, we watched this one, guys. It's just this middle aged British man I don't even know.

[Oscar]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

But he did. He did the Maldives. The underwater hotel that you guys went to.

[Oscar]

What do you say?

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, he went in off season when it was really cheap. It was like rainy and it was empty.

[Oscar]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was a lot cheaper though for him. I think it was like 5,000. Oh yeah, it was a lot cheaper.

[Oscar]

We went off season one January, but it was, it was still like 20, 19,000. And originally it was like 50,000 a night or something is what we heard. We heard it was like 50,000 and.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because I, I just expected a lot. And then I was watching, I was like, this was y'. All. I was like, y' all should be banned from.

[Oscar]

No, when you, when you go in person too, it's even more like ooh. And specifically not talk bad about it, but specifically when you go underneath, it's like scary. It feels like you're in a fish tank that's about ready to bust and everything's kind of green around you and you're kind of just like. You just see like algae. You're kind of like oo. I don't know if I like this. It's.

[Moses]

I mean it is incredible.

[Trisha Paytas]

It does look cool. But it's.

[Moses]

It is very unique. But it's. You have to like it to enjoy it to be completely.

[Oscar]

But you like love water and you didn't really want to like be down there that much.

[Moses]

No. Cuz you wouldn't be.

[Oscar]

Oh, would you?

[Moses]

Would you want. Yeah, I would definitely sleep the night.

[Oscar]

I mean it seemed like it could combust cuz it would like crack it.

[Moses]

But the whole thing thing is like with that sweet. You still have an entire cottage above water that's like floating about like you're on a boat on the water. That's what I hated with your private pool and everything. But it, it is an incredible place.

[Oscar]

Because I'm on and at the time I thought it was kind of like on, you know, like a irrational fear. But I'm on tick tock now where people are on cruises. And last night I just thought last night before I went to bed, they told everyone to turn their lights off because pirates were like nearby. And everyone turn your lights off. And everyone's just like if you turn the lights off, pirates don't get you or what? Like it was such a weird thing.

[Moses]

Hide.

[Oscar]

No, but it was. They had the announcement. The person was on the cruise ship and their little thing and they were having the announcements like hey guys, like pirates in the area. Like turn off your lights. Like, you know, don't use this, whatever. Like it was so scary and like that's what I thought of where we were is because it was like we were literally in the middle of ocean. Everyone knows that room was like $50,000 a night. So they know people. People like. Or they would assume people with money. They would be surprised if it was us, but they would assume people with money would have money to pay them or whatever. And it was like so scary for us.

[Moses]

Paris Hilton was there before.

[Oscar]

Yes. Literally. Literally days before us.

[Moses]

And we came in.

[Oscar]

Yeah. So I was thinking about that. I was just like oh my gosh. And we were in the middle of the ocean. You do have like a, like a person that helps you. Like I guess they call him like a butler or something there that helps you to the room. But like even him to come get us, like he stayed in like a little thing would take like five minutes by a golf cart to get there.

[Moses]

So you should be the one writing those movies.

[Oscar]

Huh?

[Moses]

Those movies that people get kidnapped at.

[Trisha Paytas]

Take Taken five.

[Moses]

Exactly.

[Trisha Paytas]

You would be really good.

[Moses]

Whenever we do anything, she comes up with a scenario. And I'm like okay. And I'm like okay, how do I like navigate this? Because the scenario, obviously there's no chance of this happening. But you know, it's a rationale.

[Oscar]

There is a chance of it happening. There's pirates in the ocean.

[Trisha Paytas]

What do you mean?

[Moses]

The way those things work is like when you have a, you know, like a resort that is a multi billion dollar thing, they obviously have people protecting them, including the government because nobody will jeopardize their income because it's a much bigger enterprise than the.

[Oscar]

Well, why would you tell me this when we're there? Why didn't you explain all this to me?

[Moses]

I don't think you.

[Oscar]

Countless times I brought this up multiple times and this is the first time I've ever heard you say anything logical like this.

[Moses]

But in the same way like with. We're in a hotel and you know they have glass walls and everything. They're like, don't get near the wall. Like what if the glass falls out? Or.

[Oscar]

Well that could happen. I mean there's freak accidents that happen for sure.

[Moses]

So there's. There's always something like that. Then you have to just navigate the ob. Say you should write those movies because you come up with those ideas.

[Oscar]

Well, like Wendy Williams said, the killers are always out there. You know, like she's like the killer. And it's true. You just got to think of like those scenarios in case you need to make an escape. And we had no escape. Cuz there was only one long wooden thing to the thing. So you only want me to go.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was more surprised. Did you only do one video? Because then I went back to see your experience and you just said the one like you didn't Even get your money's worth.

[Oscar]

Yeah, I was scared and I was sick and I was over it. I had panic attacks on that island.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, wow. My favorite part was in the little tour of your room. Moses is doing a time lapse outside. And then you're like, oh, Moses is doing a time lapse. And then you walk and you stand right in front of that camera and you look out into the room horizon. And then you're like, oh, were you doing a time lapse? Sorry, I forgot after you just mentioned Moses is doing a time lapse and.

[Moses]

I'm trying to capture the sunset. It's like that moment.

[Oscar]

Oh my God. Mo just got his time lapse on. Wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I'm sorry.

[Moses]

It's fine.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right on your face.

[Oscar]

Time lapse. Did you show him the entrance too?

[Trisha Paytas]

It was crazy.

[Moses]

Remember that? You probably have read. Wait.

[Oscar]

That's so funny. That's so weird. I wonder why I did that. Like, you think I tried to be funny or I'm just like, accident?

[Trisha Paytas]

You said it and then you kind of were walking around the room and then you went back outside to like look out and like you could look out here. This is our view. And then you stood there for like 45 seconds and then you went. You turned around like, oh, I forgot you're doing a time lap.

[Oscar]

Which is my big effort. I love that you watched it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I was very.

[Oscar]

Just one room tour. I did.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think so. It's the only one.

[Oscar]

I saw a mukbang too. And then I was. I was really over that room. I really thought like that was gonna collapse on me. I don't know. I. I was never relaxed there. I was very much on edge. Cuz even when we went the water, there was like a stingray the first day we're there. So I was like, I don't want to go in the water. I was like, scared. I think we even saw a shark like nearby because no one was at the beach. It was like sharks right up there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Outside of the restaurant there'll be sharks.

[Trisha Paytas]

Tim. Tim showed the sharks. Yeah.

[Oscar]

Oh, yeah, there's. They're really close. And then even like going to the restaurants. It was. Was just like hard. Like they. You had to like literally go through like a jungle. It was like dark. There was like no light. So I was just like really scared. Remember on the way back from one dinner, it was like pitch black and it took a while for the guy to come find us. And I had like a full blown. I think everyone on the island was like freaked out by me. I. What did I do? I started screaming on the golf cart and I was like, get me off. Get me off.

[Moses]

And then I just started on the bridge.

[Oscar]

We were on a bridge.

[Moses]

We're, like, on a bridge. And there was, like, nowhere to go. And eventually he came with a golf cart because people came and tried to.

[Oscar]

Help, but it was like, on the floor, just, like, literally, like, hyperventilating, like, throwing myself around. It was actually really weird. I don't know what was happening. What was I scared of? I don't know. Like, we were alone and we were dark in the woods, and I thought people were trying to, like, kidnap us.

[Moses]

That jungle, that walking through the jungle by ourselves was.

[Oscar]

The jungle was a little scary at the time. We had, like, weird, like, people, like, obsessing over us and, like, calling the hotel and, like, trying to complain that we were there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, then that makes sense. Yeah.

[Oscar]

Paranoia.

[Moses]

We just found out. We found out that you were pregnant right before we.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Moses]

So when we were there, she couldn't go into the water. She couldn't do any. Like, we're very limited what we could do.

[Oscar]

Like, hindsight I could have, but I was, like, so scared.

[Moses]

No. Cuz I mean, it's enough that a wave will knock you over or.

[Oscar]

And on the golf cart, right at.

[Moses]

The beginning of pregnancy, it's a very, very delicate, like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Especially if you didn't think you could get pregnant too. So you're probably even more like.

[Oscar]

I didn't want to go on it, but we, like, fully paid for the trip already because we did find out a couple weeks before. And then. Yes, the golf cart was like, bouncing over the bridge. I think that's what it was. And I was like, I need to get off. I need to get off. And I was like, like, screaming. I'm surprised they didn't, like, kick us off the island or something, because I was, like, screaming and like, anyone to touch me as a get away from me. Like, I was being so extra.

[Trisha Paytas]

This all kind of makes sense then.

[Oscar]

Okay. But it was. I mean, the reaction was like. It was over the top. I definitely, like, couldn't control myself. It was definitely like, I should have breathed.

[Trisha Paytas]

It would be. It makes sense that it was heightened, though, between all those factors, because it.

[Oscar]

Was also, like, illegal. Yeah, it was like this whole thing, like, illegal, like if, you know, doing off or anything that. So I remember being like, are we gonna go? Yeah. So people were trying to get us, like, calling the hotel. Like, it was just. It was a crazy time. And also traveling There takes so long anyways.

[Moses]

You're so far away from home.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses]

Like, it's not just far, it's beyond far. Cuz, like, you take an airplane and another airplane and then a tiny airplane and then a boat and you're like, wow. Like, I'm so far away that to track all of this back, it's almost impossible.

[Oscar]

It was giving White Lotus. So they do wave, wave for you, and they wait for you after saying wedding, wait for your arrival.

[Moses]

Every time I see that, that's what I remember.

[Oscar]

I don't think we had watched White Lotus yet, so, like, we didn't know, but I. I remember them like, waiting for us there. I was like, that's pretty nice that they just like, welcome you in and they just like, escort you to your thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe it's best that you didn't watch White Lotus. Then you really would have thought you were gonna get murdered.

[Oscar]

That is actually so true. Yes, I know. You're right. Yeah, you're right. Someone always does that. At least a season where just someone doesn't die. Like, just make it nice. Just have fun at the resort. Like, why don't we watch those kind of shows? Why does that always have to be so serious? Well, where would you go on a honeymoon?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that's a good question.

[Oscar]

You're Hawaii people. People, huh?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Oscar]

You think you'd go there, though? Because you go there all the time.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe. I mean, gosh, I. We. I don't know why we started watching, like, a lot of travel stuff, but if it wasn't illegal. Dubai looks so. They have like, the most, like, amazing resorts and aquariums and stuff. Like, the biggest aquarium in the world is in Dubai and it just there.

[Oscar]

We get arrested if you go.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

What do you mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, they just throw you in.

[Oscar]

Jail and no one can get you out because you're over in Dubai.

[Trisha Paytas]

You would have to come. You guys would have to come get me. Like, you know how to go get Gigi because she's trans and.

[Oscar]

Right. Well, she.

[Moses]

But she think in comments, some people said it's not exactly. Okay, you could be. I think it's more about what you do in public or not.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, Darian looks gay as hell, so there's no way.

[Oscar]

I think based on your look. No, I don't. I think he could be passed. Passing. Straight passing. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I have a better shot than Darian. And I know Jimmy's gonna do some kind of gay edit right here. Okay. I'm already gonna clock it in advance.

[Oscar]

I love the group chat. When you're like, you know what Jimmy actually like, it's so funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh yeah. Cause Jimmy loves to do a little Oscar gay edit. Meanwhile the comment's like, I love Jimmy. He's like a gayer Oscar. So there you go. There you go, Jimmy. Never forget the essence of my sparkle.

[Oscar]

Gay Oscar is crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, okay.

[Oscar]

Love it. Okay. And then Darian, what is like up at the gay as then? No, I don't know. I don't know how you rank these things. No, let's not.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, Darian is just too. He's like too pretty. Where it's like, yeah, you're gay. You know what I mean? Whereas like I can, I can butch it up a little bit. Just cuz I. My features aren't like as pretty, as daring.

[Oscar]

Like Darian is just a pretty, pretty person. But he's quiet like, you know, talking. I was wouldn't be like, yes, to be allowed to be gay. But.

[Trisha Paytas]

But even like when he walks on the street, like the. He. There was a man outside of Staples the other day, the office supply store, and yelled at him, hey, F. Get out of the way. So when he was just walking.

[Oscar]

House person.

[Trisha Paytas]

I. I didn't get the details on who it was.

[Oscar]

Just a person shouted it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would think it was someone just unwell or something.

[Oscar]

Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.

[Trisha Paytas]

That seems like he was in his gym clothes. That was his gym outfit.

[Oscar]

Oh, so he was as mask as you can get.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And his little aloe shorts and white T shirts. Yeah, he was clocked. He was clocked.

[Oscar]

The house though is Moose was about to go into an owl the other day. There's an owl that open near us. He's like, maybe you should go in there for some shirts.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's where he. Yeah, that's where he went to. Yeah, well, he like, he likes a good, you know, three inch short.

[Moses]

So.

[Oscar]

Yeah, you should wear a three inch short when he wears like box because he's long legs. Long legs and thick thighs. Your thighs are so good. They're like tree trunks just for you. Oh, you should wear short shorts though.

[Moses]

Why?

[Oscar]

I love short shorts on a guy. Gay or straight or fluid.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like when Hassan wears short shorts. Like he wears his little short.

[Moses]

Yeah, I think we're a bit different.

[Oscar]

You wear short shorts sometimes. Maybe not three inches, but I like short shorts.

[Trisha Paytas]

On YouTube, I do. I like a shorter short because I'm short. So I feel like it makes me look.

[Oscar]

You're not sure. I feel like you say that, but you're not sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like Jimmy just got sp hashtag partner with a little short short company. You see his Instagram story, like, work.

[Oscar]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

He was doing squats, Jimmy. And you can insert your own B roll here on his story. He did, like, squats in his little gay short. It was. It was a gay company. Gay company.

[Oscar]

Little gay shorts.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that.

[Oscar]

He does. He is a great shorts model too. Yeah, he's the original shorts short person. I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Because he loves, like a. A very tight and short short.

[Oscar]

Yes, you should. You should show off those legs. You and Darian looked very handsome at the party. You guys make a good looking couple. You're not, like, you always act like you're so out of, like, you know, league of Darian, and he is very handsome, but you kind of compliment him. Well, like, you know, it's just funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

Anytime we, like, go out, though, it's like. And he meets people be like, oh, my God, you are just. They'll stop him. And like, be like, you are just so pretty. And he.

[Oscar]

That's my mom with him for sure. It's like, wow. Oscar's boyfriend.

[Trisha Paytas]

We when that photo booth at the. At the Demi thing, it like, made it just make smoother skin and stuff. Like, it just made you look, like, fierce, whatever. Yeah. And but Darian, though, because he already has, like, really smooth, like, perfect skin, it just made him look like a baby almost, because his skin is already perfect.

[Oscar]

That's so funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

So it was like, smoothing on it top of top of already, like, smooth skin.

[Oscar]

Ooh, I love that.

[Trisha Paytas]

So, like, the one of just me and him, I was like, you almost look too airbrushed or something because he just, like, looked like, fake. Yeah. I'm like, okay, let me not put the. The group shot of us was a little bit less intense.

[Oscar]

I don't know if I ever. Where are photos go? I don't know if I ever saw them. Do we get them? I never saw them. Look, now if they. I love. That photo booth was great. It wasn't. Because it wasn't just a photo booth. That was like a set. It was like someone taking your picture from, like, far away. I love, loved that. Okay, I have to look at ours. Yeah, you guys looked very. You guys looked cool. I felt cool coming to the party with you guys. I like, look at these cool guys and we're like, a part of it, you know? It was fun.

[Moses]

That was the security guard.

[Oscar]

Yeah. You were giving security for sure. I know. I wanted you to wear my Britney Spears T shirt, but he said it didn't look great on him. I thought it was gonna look good. You weren't pink, though. You end up wearing pink. You wore some color, which is good.

[Moses]

You always pink. It just hurt. That T shirt specifically. Nobody was really it. Believe what, that I was wearing the T shirt that you were bringing. Genuinely wearing the T shirt.

[Oscar]

He didn't like that. It was a Hit me, baby one more time one.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, what era would you prefer?

[Moses]

Maybe her with the snake or something?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, okay. Yeah, Slave for you.

[Oscar]

That one. Next time we'll get that one. I was going to wear the shirt today. I don't know what happened. I was going to wear it and then I forgot. Anyways.

[Trisha Paytas]

Should we end on the, the, the big YouTube scandal of the week, which really has been a mind bender. Was the, the drama over the Louis Vuitton makeup launch?

[Oscar]

No, I, I, I haven't seen the drama. I just saw people reviewing it. I didn't know there was drama.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I'm gonna do very top line because I was trying to get in the weeds and it was like, kind of hurting my head. There is part of me where I was like, this is so unserious. But then the other half me was like, I kind of love that it's so unserious. Like, makeup PR package drama. Because it's just so, like, 2018 to me. Like, it's so, at the end of the day, it's just makeup. Like, it's. But everyone's just, like, so in it. So it is kind of funny to me.

[Oscar]

I do love, I love drama like this. I do love a drama where it's, like, not serious. You know, the Ariana is coming for Michaela and Haley Bailey. It's like, love it. It's cute. But, like, so funny and not serious. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

But with this, it was a whole debacle because Louis Vuitton in collab. I think Pat McGrath is, like, in charge of it, the Louis Vuitton makeup collection, but they launched their own makeup collection, and it's like lipstick palette and other makeup products. And the prices were pretty intense. I think the makeup brush set was, like, over a thousand dollars. It does include, like, a little Louis Vuitton pouch and, and stuff. And then all the, the brushes have, like, the Louis Vuitton logo. It's like the gold handles and everything. The mate. The lipsticks, I believe, are 65, I.

[Oscar]

Think $160 for this, the lipstick. Yes, $160.

[Trisha Paytas]

Now we need to fact check.

[Oscar]

Yes. I'm like a thousand percent sure. I'm.

[Trisha Paytas]

You would know, because you're a. You are a Louis girl.

[Oscar]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, so it is 160 for a case of lipsticks, and the refills are 69.

[Oscar]

So we're both $160 for Lux lipstick is.

[Trisha Paytas]

It is crazy.

[Moses]

We see. Did we see Michaela trying them on?

[Oscar]

Yeah, I saw Michaela and Jeffrey.

[Trisha Paytas]

The eyeshadow case and refill are priced at 250, and then additional refills are 92. And it's only, like, four in the case. It is asinine to me, but also, I'm like, it is move. It's like, it is like a luxury, excessive kind of thing. So I'm like, I really don't care that much.

[Oscar]

Like, a purse can last you a lifetime, but makeup goes bad, you can use it all in a year. Like, it just is disposable. Like, you throw it away.

[Trisha Paytas]

The packaging. Like, you keep that packaging, and then you buy the refills. Granted, the refills are still expensive, but, like, you keep the shell or whatever of. Or you keep the little thing that the brushes come in, blah, blah. And then you just refill everything else.

[Oscar]

It's like, just like their purses. I'm like, 99. Sure. I can say allegedly, it's like they're all made where all the knockoffs are made. You know what I mean? Like. Like, they're made for the same value.

[Trisha Paytas]

The markup is. Is like. I can't even think of the percentage, because I remember when the. When the terrorists first happened, like, there was people in China would be like, posting stuff and be like, this is where it's like, yeah.

[Oscar]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

And it's marked up, like, an insane markup. But again, to me, I'm just like, do. I really can't know because it's not for, like, it's for people who have so much, like, money and, like, don't care about wasting it.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess where I'm like, whatever. But then the whole debacle was they sent out PR packages for the Louis Vuitton makeup. Some people got them, some people didn't. Some people got bigger ones than others, which I thought was funny. Yeah.

[Oscar]

Like, who got the biggest?

[Trisha Paytas]

Jackie AA Got, like, a really big one, and. But she works with Pat. She's worked with Pat McGrath before. She has a good relationship.

[Oscar]

She's like an OG beauty girl, too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. So it makes sense. And then, like, the smaller influencers got, like, not the full collection.

[Oscar]

That makes sense. I get that. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

But then the debacle was Nikkietutorials and James Charles both posted about it and they did not get PR packages. And they made that, like, very, very clear in their reviews.

[Oscar]

They were mad about it.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was kind of bitter. Yeah, bitter boots. Obviously, that price tag and everything about this launch has been very controversial. However, if you look online, there's not been one negative thing said about this launch brand as of yet. Because every influencer got it in pr. Well, I didn't. I went to the Louis Vuitton store in New York City when I was there a couple of days ago and spent $800. Are we ready to roast a brand? Because I am ready to roast a brand now. Just like any other luxury brand like Hermes or Chanel or Gucci or the.

[Oscar]

You name them, name them. And Louis Vuitton was the odd one out because they never really dived into beauty until today. And I wish they never did.

[Trisha Paytas]

For sure.

[Oscar]

I can see, James, what a Nikki.

[Trisha Paytas]

Nikki's was. And I love Nikki. Tutorials down like, that's a sister to me. But she was so shady about it. She made it very clear. She did a YouTube video and a TikTok review, and she made it very clear that she didn't. She's like, you might have seen everyone get the Louis Vuitton makeup, but I didn't get a PR package. And then I guess she keeps talking about how she had one negative review of a Pat McGrath product in 2018, 2020, and after that, she has gotten off the PR list for Pat McGrath or whatever. So she just makes it, like, very abundantly clear that she was not on the PR list.

[Oscar]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

And she gives the products, like, a really bad review and talks about the. She's very over the top about it, like, about the price. And I'm like, yeah, obviously the price. Like, it's not. It's not like rare beauty is priced at 165, $9, you know, for a lipstick. Because if they did. If, like, Selena did that, if, like, Elf did, like, you know, if Ro did, that would be.

[Oscar]

Elf would be crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

It'd be like Matt Rice and. Yeah. Like, if it's like an influencer brand or like a Michaela or whatever, like, obviously it's like, then it feels predatory to your fans or whatever. But people who are buying Louis Vuitton are also. I know the persons are different because they are more like. Also an investment. Like, a lot of them hold value or increase value. Value.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So it doesn't. It's not like a fair comparison, but the average Louis Vuitton consumer is just has more Disposable income and is obviously, like, they're not marketing towards, like, teenagers or whatever right now. So to me, I was like, kind of okay. The whole base of the argument, it kind of just seemed like, girl, is the PR list that important? She's like, she didn't make it clear. I had to go out and buy it myself. And this is crazy. Who would spend this much money?

[Oscar]

You did, girl.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. Also, I'm like, there's something kind of unchic to me about millionaires complaining about the PR list. Like, yeah, there's something. It's just very unchic that I'm like, yeah, yeah. And then James was very similar too. He was like, I am not on the PR list. And because I am not on the PR list, I'm gonna give you the only honest review about this, which is the implication that every other thing that you reviewed that you got PR is you lying. Then, like, it was a weird thing to, like, say. And then he reviewed the products, and he said, I can 100 say that this is a scam. Blah, blah. And I'm like, again, this is not, like, an influencer. I think if James Charles was pricing it, these products at that price, obviously would be mad at him. But for, like, a luxury brand, I don't know. Is it really that shocking? Not really.

[Oscar]

But, I mean, I get what they're saying. But like, you said in the same breath, them being like, I didn't get on the PR list. It's like, why do you want to buy it? Why are you even contributing to the craziness and the tastelessness of a lipstick being $160 now, you know? Because you can't afford to get it. Like, what other influencer, like, would be able to get it? You know what I mean? Unless you're, like, you said, like, a millionaire, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I think it's funny because they also, like, have Louis Vuitton in designer products, too. So to be like, who would possibly spend this much money on something design? I'm like, I think Nikki had a Louis Vuitton, like, bandana on her head. I'm like, well, how much was that bandana?

[Oscar]

That's so weird.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I don't know. People with, like, that already have a lot of designer stuff, like, complaining about the prices of the. It's just so weird.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Like, you should just be like, I did this for the video, for the content, whatever. But, yeah, the bitterness of being. Not being on a pr. I mean, very me coded. I'm not gonna lie. Me not getting a domino sponsorship. I'm gonna be right there too. But it is. Yeah. I mean it just comes across as like, you should just say I bought this for the thing. But to say it's like not a good product. I don't know. I didn't try it. But Mikayla was also like, yeah, no lipstick should be worth $160. But she also was like, it's a pretty good product.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, it's pretty nice, like Jackie Aina and stuff. But then the big. And then Jeffree star was another one who said. Who was a fan of the product and liked it. I think I'm thoroughly offended that anyone would think I would lie about something to give a free lipstick. No offense, but huh. I can buy whatever the. With my own money.

[Oscar]

It's so offensive.

[Trisha Paytas]

But let's, let's use a preloaded brush and get into it. So it was like a weird. I just didn't like the equivalency of like, oh, because I'm not on the PR list. I'm going to give you an honest review where like everyone is going to have a bias. Like, either you're on the PR list or not. Like, if you're not on the PR list, you're biased because you're mad that you're not on the PR list.

[Oscar]

That's so true.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then if you are on the PR list, you also are likely to have a bias because if you, you have some kind of like, relationship with the PR company or whatever. So either way there is going to be a bias. I'm like.

[Oscar]

And making it clear what, which side you're on seems like, not fair either. It's like you should just say, like, I'm testing out this product.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And then weird of like Nikki and James imply that anyone who liked it is just because they were bought off. You know, like I. Because I don't think that's the.

[Oscar]

No, I'm sure, I'm sure it's a great lipstick. You know, would you spend $100 on his question? But if they sent it to me, I'd be like, heck yeah, I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then James, of course in his video review, it was like everything was compared to like his own brand. He's like, as a beauty creator, I can tell you that this magnet cost 25 cents. Like everything was like. James, as a beauty, as a owner of a beauty brand, I can tell you that my shadows are so much more pigmented and so much more glittery. Like everything was like crazy.

[Oscar]

It's just a different Anyone talking about painted? You know what I mean? Like, maybe your morphe palette. Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

But the painted also. I loved it in James's video too. He was like, honestly, like, I could only afford this if I had a sugar daddy, and I am taking sugar. Sugar daddy applications. I'm like, girl, you are the sugar daddy. Because you're the one that is flying out, allegedly flying boys out and housing them. So aren't you are the sugar. Like, you don't need a sugar daddy. You are the sugar daddy. And also, are you even interested in men that kind age? Allegedly. So I was like, this is kind of crazy. The whole thing was so, so crazy to me. And then here Jeffree Star, like, taps in because he got the PR package and he's like a Louis Vuitton Stan. And he was. Gave everything a glowing review. And then people were mad at Jeffrey because obviously his legacy is Jeffrey Star proved. He's like, no nonsense. He's very honest. And then people were saying, well, Nikki and James gave this terrible review, so you must be lying because you want to be on the PR list. And Jeffrey took a lot of offense.

[Oscar]

Yeah, of course. Yeah. Because he never takes money, right? Is that his thing? He never takes money for a sponsorship.

[Trisha Paytas]

And like, I guess the thing he was offended by, too, is the, like, as someone who I guess has spent, he said, like, damn near a million dollars on Louis Vuitton that, like, the lipstick would be the thing to sell him on it.

[Oscar]

And he's also said that they never sent him anything free, like, ever.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. And this is their first, like, cosmetic, so it makes sense that they would do PR for this in collaboration with, like, Pat McGrath. But, yeah, he, like, went off on Nikki and James. The whole thing was so crazy.

[Oscar]

I didn't see that. What did he say?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, he wasn't. It was wild. So he did a TikTok. He was filming a Tik Tok and doing a Tik Tok Live at the same time. And so his Tik Tok was, like, sassy, but not too terrible. There was like, a lot of like, so why are we listening to James Charles when he texts teenagers? And then cut to his Instagram, his Tik Tok Live where he was just, like, screaming. He's like, you guys are leaving laughing emojis. Like, I do not think this is funny. Like, he was screaming. I thought the dichotomy was, like, very funny to me. I have. The whole thing was so insane. Like, I. I hate this. I. I do see Jeffrey's side, though. I will Say, if I had to choose a side between all this, like, I'm serious. Because he did clock that. They seem, like, kind of, like, a little bit. There is, like, a bias with them.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not wanting to support the Louis Vuitton something. And then there's also, like, I. Obviously, Jeffrey would be biased too, just because he is a stand of, like, Louis Vuitton. Like, if Pop Mars releasing a new Labubu, I'm excited for it.

[Oscar]

Yeah, of course. Like, you would just like it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Like, if you supported a brand for a long time, like, you would be excited about the release and, like, you would get it. And then you would obviously go in with, like, a positive attitude about it versus, you know, Nikki not getting a PR package and going in with a bad attitude about.

[Oscar]

And, like, I highly doubt Louis Vuitton's putting out. Especially, like you said, Matt McGrath is, like, a huge makeup artist. And, yeah, has been making up a long time. Like, it's obviously a good product. Now, whether or not they, like, marked it up so much, I don't even think is a question. For James Charles to be like, this was 25 cents. Well, that's just how it works. Like, you do James Charles. You're also making stuff. Like, everyone. Anyone who makes a product is marking it up, and it just depends on what you want the markup to be. And like you said, influencers do have it a little tougher because, like, you can't charge too much, but you're Louis Vuitton. And for some reason, that name has always just been able to get a lot of money. And people spend ridiculous amounts on this, including myself. And you're just like, they have a pen that someone was talking about, like, a Mont Blanc pen. I think I saw Alex K's what's in My Purse? And she's like, oh, this is a Mont Blanc pen or something that my friends got me. So I looked it up. I was like, mont Blanc pen. And then it took me to, like, Louis Vuitton was the first one. $1,000 for a pen. I was like, I want this pen. But I also didn't get it. I was like, let me not be too crazy, but it is insane what people will charge for, like, a pen, you know, Like. But if you have the name, I don't know if painted by James Charles is gonna be able to get that, you know? So I think you have to keep it low.

[Trisha Paytas]

The same societal cachet, I guess, as a Louis Vuitton.

[Oscar]

And he was just, you know, he's probably using it to promote his brand too. He's like, oh, but painted.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's just so great. Because I was thinking too, like, yes, obviously I love a PR list. But, like, I was on the Taylor Swift PR list. When I like this one, I got on it, like, 2016, 2017. And then I. When I wasn't in media, like, in entertainment news anymore, when I just worked for Joey, I got off of it because I wasn't in media anymore. And then when I went back to inter, like, entertainment news, I didn't ask, like, to be put back on it because I'm like, well, does it really matter? Like, I don't getting a vinyl and like, a T shirt isn't, like, the end all be all something I'm going to buy anyways. I just don't understand the, like, the bitterness. Yeah. Over a PR list. Especially when you see, like, Michaela, like, dude, like, the.

[Oscar]

Oh, yes, hundred boxes.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm like, girl, that's the. The spot. Yeah.

[Oscar]

She's like, people be like, oh, like this. Why don't they give them to people who, like, separate people? And she gets called marketing. Like, you know, she like, snaps back at people and it's like, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, it's. I'm. I'm. I'm on the line. I'm on the fence about. Because, like, it's nice to get pr. Because then you're like, oh, my gosh, like, we're on the. I think I'm only on, like, one list. Plur. Is that the one?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. I love. I love that PR list. Oh, Ian Charm. Shout out. I'm on there.

[Oscar]

Yeah. Like, I guess it's like, cool. It gets kind of a cool, like, little perk. You're like, oh, wow, I got this, like, cute little thing in the mail. But yeah, showing, like, I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I wouldn't go to my Tik Tok with millions of followers and be like, not. You know what? I wouldn't, like, go out of my way to, like, boohoo about not being on a PR when I can afford, like, they're just so rich that I'm like, the thought of you trying to relate to me when you have, like, houses and businesses and cars and you already have Louis Vuitton. You're going to try to relate to the everyday person who's working 90 hours a week. Like, girl, that is true.

[Oscar]

That's true.

[Trisha Paytas]

We're not. You don't relate to me. So don't sit here and try to act like you can relate to my Struggles. Because it's very different.

[Oscar]

I'm surprised. Yeah. I'm surprised. Nikki tutorials like that. James. I. Exactly. James.

[Trisha Paytas]

Come to expect. I feel like Nikki might have been blinded by, like, you know, revenge or something.

[Oscar]

Yeah. And also, I. I get, like. You see everyone else getting it, and you're like, I'm.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. I got Nikki tutorials. It's in my name.

[Oscar]

Right? Right. Like, why I would get that? I guess it is a kind of like, seeing people get domino sponsorships and not me. I'm like, well, damn, I'm happy for them, but couldn't it have been me? You know?

[Trisha Paytas]

But at least you're, like, cutesy. Like, I think she was cutesy about it versus she really had a vendetta.

[Oscar]

Against, like, by the way, I didn't get this, so.

[Trisha Paytas]

And she had a lot to say about Pat McGrazo. I was like, oh.

[Oscar]

She's like, by the way, this sucks. My lips have broken out.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, she was. And she. She was using the lightest shade, and she was like, it's not showing up. I mean, she has very, like, fair skin, so obviously she's using, like, a light. I'm like, yeah, you're gonna have to go in the pan a couple times.

[Oscar]

But that's crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's all so insecure. But people were so mad about it, about Nikki. I think people were more mad about Louis Vuitton and anyone who liked it because. Yeah.

[Oscar]

Just the assumption that, like, that I get, too. I think it's just, like, the timing of the world. It's like, back in the day, everyone would do house tours and unboxing purses, and I just think, yeah, it's like. It's like the tart trips, like, anything. It's like, you know, state of the world maybe doesn't want to see.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

People trying out 100 lipstick. Because it makes people feel bad at the end of the day. Right. It kind of just makes people. It shouldn't. And I get the marketing of it all and everything, and I'm like, whatever. But I do think it makes people feel bad sometimes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

I want to see it.

[Trisha Paytas]

There's totally an elitism thing with it. 100. But I think. I fear. I'm not saying it's right, but I fear that that is a part of luxury. Luxury designer goods anyway, is like, the elitism of it.

[Oscar]

Right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, it is like a. Like, people spend crazy money on watches or bags or whatever, and it is, like a status, you know, symbol or whatever. But.

[Oscar]

But you need to, like, show it to Everyone maybe just like, you know, in your own cute little wherever you are, your little gated community. Wear it or something. You know what? I don't know. In your house. I don't know because I'm kind of. Yeah. If you like nice things and you work hard for it. Yes. But do you have to show it all? I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I do. It is kind of like in your face. Especially the way TikTok reviews go. Like it is so like in your face and stuff. At the end of the day, like, it is just makeup. I wasn't interested in it to begin with. After all this drama, I'm sure Louis Vuitton is loving it because it's like, oh, for sure. So like it's everywhere. Everyone's been talking about, like Jeffrey versus James and Nikki and the Louis Vuitton. Yeah, it's drama three. Honestly.

[Oscar]

Where's Shane? What did he have to say about it?

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, he. He's retired from the beauty.

[Oscar]

Come on, Shane. Patreon. I'm subscribe to that Patreon Oscar7.

[Trisha Paytas]

We almost went the full episode. We're so close.

[Oscar]

I need to know where Shane's thoughts on this.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my God.

[Moses]

Should have stopped the episode.

[Oscar]

Put him in the thumbnail. Shane.

[Trisha Paytas]

Jeffrey with the eyeshadow on him. I love when he tests. Yes.

[Oscar]

Oh my God, that'd be so good. Lipstick Gate. Dramageddon 3.0. All of them involved.

[Trisha Paytas]

It is nuts.

[Oscar]

Chime in. My chime in over on the picture. Maybe I'll subscribe. You said you did a mukbang. Like maybe I'm here for it. I'm here for the drama. That doesn't include me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Honestly. Yeah, I love it.

[Oscar]

But honestly, you're. You're on the side. You're your team. It's okay to have these lipsticks. I think I'm team. They should never have been mean. I might be posing on this one.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, I just like, who care? Like I was. I mean, I don't even wear eyeshadow nor lipstick, so I don't know why I'm even like trying to chime in here. But to me I'm just like, whatever. Like it's just so I walk by Louis Vuitton so I don't think twice, you know, I'm like work, you know.

[Oscar]

But are they philanthropic? Are they feeding children anywhere that are starving?

[Trisha Paytas]

I would venture to say not really.

[Oscar]

So Mr. Louis Vuitton, maybe go and feed some. Some children that are hungry in this world. There's a lot of them and it's really sad. And again, I think I'm all about billionaires, but I also think they should cheerlead about their wealth. You take care of your own. Right? We love that. But also donate some food.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're pro billionaire.

[Oscar]

Yeah, they. If they. If they can give half of that billion to kids eating.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh well, I fear a lot of them aren't.

[Oscar]

Someone isn't Taylor Swift. You said she's philanthropic. She's a billionaire. True.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, you're right about.

[Oscar]

You know. So I'm pro her.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Oscar]

Work.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's true. She did don't. At every tour stop she went and donated.

[Oscar]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Oscar]

If I could be a billionaire, which I would have been if I would have won Powerball last week, I could have like helped me so many kids in the world, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's a good point. Okay, so philanthropic billionaires you support, not the evil ones.

[Oscar]

Mr.

[Trisha Paytas]

Beast, I don't know if he's a billionaire, but.

[Oscar]

Okay, good. Just kidding.

[Trisha Paytas]

Keep it that way.

[Oscar]

Keep it that way. Cuz we do not support you. Well, you guys. Yeah. These influencers are not billionaires. And at the end of the day, they could lose it all too.

[Moses]

Or there a phone call for you.

[Oscar]

To end the show.

[Moses]

Jimmy.

[Oscar]

Actually, Mr.

[Moses]

Beast, he wants to talk to you.

[Oscar]

Jimmy, your editor.

[Trisha Paytas]

Me too. I was.

[Oscar]

Wait, Jimmy. Yeah, don't. That's scary. You're like, we gotta go, there's a phone call. All right. Well, we do have to go, huh? Expect one from jimmy the beast. Mr. Beast.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's ominous.

[Oscar]

I hate that we have an editor named Jimmy and he has to share a name with Mr.

[Trisha Paytas]

Beast. I know. And James Charles, technically.

[Oscar]

Okay, well, sorry to all the gyms out there.

[Moses]

We need a name for ours. Like a nickname. Like Mr. Gage.

[Oscar]

I like it. Perfect. Oscar said it, not me. Well, thank you for watching and we love you guys and I think this was a great episode. I'm proud of all of us. I'm proud to know you, Oscar. I'm proud to know you, Moses. And Jimmy especially. I know every time I see an award show, I feel like I need to thank people.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was like, where are you going with this?

[Oscar]

No, I don't know. Honestly, that was just thanking everybody that I'm appreciative. I'm giving gratitude. And Jimmy too. I never met. I've never seen an editor get so many compliments and comments in a section. Jimmy really is the fourth co host. Which you'll be here for Halloween. Get that costume around. My mom got hers. Do you have yours yet?

[Trisha Paytas]

For a group costume.

[Oscar]

Oh, I did not tell you. Well, text you. It's a secret. Well, you guys, we love you. Thanks for being here and be kind to yourself. And you know, be grateful for the meals you get today. Cuz not everyone gets them. And if you can try to donate a meal, we'll try and do that today. I. I'll call. I'll call up somebody and see what we can feed people. I love you guys. And we'll see you in the next one. Bye.