The People v. The Coffee Bandit... Is He Guilty?

Summary

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Podcast Summary

Podcast: Katching Up With Katie

Host: Katie Van Slyke
Episode: The People v. The Coffee Bandit... Is He Guilty?
Date: December 16, 2025

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Overview

In this engaging and lighthearted episode, Katie Van Slyke brings some humor and real talk to the table as she mediates a “courtroom” debate surrounding a now infamous group coffee incident on a recent trip. Dubbed “The People v. The Coffee Bandit,” the episode playfully tackles themes of friendship, communication, and expectations within close-knit groups, all against the vibrant backdrop of farm, ranch, and family life that Katie is known for. The gang—Matt (the “Coffee Bandit”), Nate, and Abigail—air their grievances, defend their positions, and ultimately poke fun at the little misunderstandings that can mean a lot (or a little) among friends and colleagues.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Setting the Stage: Katie’s “Courtroom” Opens [00:00-02:00]

• Katie introduces the “case” and establishes her role as judge: “What we're going to do is we're going to hear out each party…make a decision here and today as to who is in the right and who's in the wrong.” [00:12]
• The “parties” are established: Matt is the defendant (the alleged Coffee Bandit), Nate and Abigail are the plaintiffs.

“What we're not going to do is get upset and start being sad and... putting our headphones on.” — Katie [00:42]

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2. Matt’s Side: The Defense [02:02-07:45]

• Matt breaks down his version of events, starting with minor fractures in group dynamics and culminating in his decision to Doordash an ice cream for himself, and later, coffee and a breakfast sandwich.
• He points out that group Doordash orders are common, but sometimes he just wants something for himself.
• Addresses the group’s reaction: "How that was received was, well, he just got coffee for himself and he only got us waters." [06:50]
• Matt frames his actions as an attempt to avoid inconvenience, not to exclude: "...in 2025, if you want a little something, get the Doordash app, get you some Doordash or DashPass and delivery right to your doorstep." [07:40]

“If I wanted to make an individual order, that would be okay. And that is just 2025.” — Matt [07:30]

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3. Plaintiffs Speak: Nate & Abigail’s Perspective [09:37-13:33]

• Nate and Abigail offer a contrasting timeline, going back further to the moment the group arrived in Oklahoma.
• They recall feeling excluded when Matt split off at the airport after the group noted a Starbucks—he got himself a coffee without checking in with the group, even after a shared excitement over coffee.
• Their main gripe: it’s not about the drink itself, but the shared ritual of grabbing coffee together.

"It kind of made us feel left out and a little sad that you didn't include us on the Starbucks run because that's something we normally all do together." — Nate [10:56]

• They clarify that subsequent chat messages referenced only grabbing lunch at Whataburger, not coffee, refuting Matt’s recollection.
• The “bottle of water” gesture after the Doordash order is called out as slightly insulting, given the prior discussion on wanting to be included in group coffee stops.

“I have no right to be included in your order. But as a friend, it felt a little insulting...here's a bottle of water. That felt insulting.” — Nate [15:08]

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4. On Communication, Inclusion, and Unspoken Roles [16:00-20:45]

• Discussion broadens to payment dynamics—Doordash group orders often go through Matt (without seeking reimbursement), but money is not really the issue.
• Katie, as judge, points out, “You should be able to do what you want. You're a grown man,” but also notes the group’s usual rushed schedule and how a heads-up about coffee would be considerate.

"I validate that you should not have to order for everyone all the time...But with history knowing, we're usually skirting out the door...I think a little text saying, 'Hey, I'm ordering coffee because I don't think we're gonna have enough time. Does anyone else want coffee?'...probably would have been a hit." — Katie [18:43-19:32]

• Group conversation shifts to the nuances of autonomy, friendship, and, crucially, communication.

“There's the element of autonomy, there's the element of friendship, and there's the element of communication.” — Nate [20:33]

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5. Friendly Resolution and Reflections [21:30-32:05]

• The group comes to a mutual understanding, agreeing to take turns with orders and clarifying that expectations are rooted in friendship, not obligation.
• They jokingly argue about Venmo reimbursements and appoint Matt as the “Doordash Guy,” but with recognition that this role should not be assumed.
• Abby brings levity: “I kind of like it [the wig].”
• Katie delivers her verdict: “There is no winner...Maybe y’all shouldn't have taken for granted he's just Doordash guy...But also...it would have been nice to ask them what their coffee order was.” [29:45-30:19]

"There is no winner and loser in the situation...It would have been nice to ask them what their coffee order was." — Katie [29:45-30:46]

• Agreement that the real “goat getter” (the moment that set everyone off) was the water bottle gesture.

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6. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “I admit I was wrong. Next segment. I'm joking. I would never do that.” — Matt [01:47]
• “This is my take on it after sitting on it for a while: a group has dynamics, and I think individuals naturally acclimate into a role and you're door dash guy.” — Nate [27:05]
• “I thought I would. You want to get these for everybody?” — Matt quoting himself, on being subtly pressured to group-order [03:57]
• “The goat getter was the water.” — Nate [31:14]
• “As another third party of that incident, we're following the group...So then we ended up standing there waiting for Matt to get his coffee.” — Katie, on the airport Starbucks [23:10-23:45]

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7. Updates from Running Springs & Farm Life [34:14-39:45]

• Quick catch-up on farm updates:
  • Taz the goat is here; the group suspects he’s mated with Blossom [34:14]
  • Annie the horse had a health scare, but is back home after a vet visit [34:22-35:10]
• Katie shares about an inspiring live Christmas concert (Tommy Profit’s “Birth of a King”), describing it as rekindling her sense of “whimsy.” [36:08-38:34]
• The group sets plans for “whimsy Wednesdays” and encourages more spontaneous adventures.
• Matt's in the process of buying a new house (pending his old one selling) [39:10]
• Matt and his wife are expecting another baby—news that leads into playful banter on group secrets and reveals. [39:27]

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8. Closing Remarks & Community Engagement [41:26-41:41]

• Katie invites listeners to weigh in: “Let me know if you agree with my verdict on this whole debacle or if you have other opinions...If you think there was an actual winner, loser, things like that.”
• Suggests “Katie’s Courtroom” could be a recurring bit if listeners enjoy it.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Opening/Courtroom Setup: 00:00-02:00
• Matt’s Defense: 02:02-07:45
• Nate & Abigail’s Side: 09:37-15:50
• Communication and Friendship: 16:00-21:25
• Resolution and Verdict: 29:45-31:50
• Farm & Life Updates: 34:00-39:50

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Final Takeaways

The episode is ultimately a loving ribbing among friends—offering plenty of laughs, a window into real and relatable group dynamics (“Who’s responsible for the coffee order?”), and a refreshingly honest take on how small misunderstandings can snowball, but also how openly talking it out (even in “court”) brings everyone closer. The verdict: communicate more, assume less, and keep the coffee and friendship flowing.

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Listener Call to Action:
Tell them in the comments if you think the "Coffee Bandit" was guilty or not, and if you want more of Katie's Courtroom drama on the podcast!

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Transcript

[A]

Welcome back to Catching up with Katie. So a couple weeks ago, we hinted that there was an argument that we needed to settle, that it was something that was kind of causing a little friction on our last trip, on the last day. And so what we've decided to do is put court in session here on catching up with Katie. And so I am the judge. I was there, but I wasn't there for the actual debacle. So what we're going to do is we're going to hear out each party, one party being Matt, the other being Nate and Abigail together, hear their sides of the story, and then we're going to make a decision here and today as to who is in the right and who's in the wrong. And what we're not going to do is get upset and start being sad and. And being cold, putting our. Putting our headphones on.

[B]

And from that comment alone, you can tell what the judging will be.

[A]

You know what, though, because there wasn't a whole lot of chatting that day. I really haven't heard the other side. So I'm curious. You know what? We're gonna start with Mr. Matthew Turpin on. On your side of things, and we want to hear your defense.

[B]

He's already said.

[A]

Let me.

[B]

Can I just say something?

[C]

Yeah, sure. I guess we're starting with that.

[B]

Let me just. Let me just say this, that he already said this morning that he's gonna take, like, the. The pity route.

[C]

No, actually, I did a lot of soul searching and I. I decided that I was in the wrong. And there's really no need for all this.

[A]

After we put the wigs on, I bought a gavel.

[C]

I admit I was wrong. Next segment. I'm joking. I would never do that.

[D]

Pray, sir, let us continue.

[C]

So this all started. I mean, we could say it started.

[A]

A long time ago.

[C]

When we get to the root. Get to the roots. I'm having some bang problems.

[A]

You're very silver roots.

[C]

This whole trip, there was little groups formed, and it was pretty clear from the very beginning that, you know, if anybody was going to be ostracized from.

[B]

Anything, it was going to be me.

[C]

So coming. Coming straight to the trip from a weekend in New York, you know.

[D]

Well, I thought we had a good time.

[C]

I had a great time. Yeah. Tired. A little tired. And what.

[D]

That was just you and me, though.

[C]

Do I have the floor?

[A]

Silence.

[C]

Yeah. The opposition's talking to me. What is it to defend it? And are.

[A]

Are you.

[D]

Can I.

[A]

Who are you asking who. Who are we?

[C]

Who are we?

[D]

You're the judge. We're the plaintiff. He's the defendant.

[C]

Plaintiff.

[A]

That's the plaintiff. Defendant. Okay, got it.

[C]

Anyway, we'll fast forward to. I think it was day three or the day before the last day of the trip.

[B]

It was the last day.

[C]

Well, this is where I'm fast forwarding is the day before the last day of the trip. I was scrolling through my phone because I was wanting a little sweet treat. Nobody had sit there and made the proclamation of, you know, it would go, ham right now is a sweet treat. I just wanted one because. And I knew a little extra because I just wanted some ice cream on top of what we were probably already about to get in an hour or so at dinner. So I'm scrolling through doordash and whatnot looking for me a sweet treat. Here comes some prying eyes over my shoulder. Oh, you don't get your little ice cream, are you. To which I replied, I thought I would. You want to get these for everybody?

[A]

Which.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

All right.

[C]

I guess I could. I guess I could say that that was. That was time one. But sure, I could have. I could have said, hey, does anybody want some ice cream? But I thought since I was going to be extra and since it's 2025 and anybody can download the doordash app, that me getting ice cream. What this had turned into is that when I doordash something that it is assumed that I'm doordashing for everybody and that their individual doordash is. Is no longer in the picture. But that being said, I broke. Ordered, Ordered, ordered an ice cream treat.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

The next day before.

[A]

Okay, that was. This is.

[C]

This is when.

[B]

This is.

[C]

This is when the. The. I'm starting to see a pattern here. Now we awake. On the morning of the crime. In the group message, which I can pull up, a text was sent out. Hey, we're probably gonna stop for coffee on the way to the horse show before we do this stuff.

[B]

Nope.

[C]

Should have pulled out all this set. I should have had files.

[A]

I should have everything set A briefcase.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Nate pulling it up. Nate's pulling it up.

[C]

There was a message sent out that. Yes, there was. That we were going to go out. This is my time. Everybody's gonna get their time order.

[A]

He's saying what his side is, and we will have our chance to have.

[B]

Okay, but it's not. It's not a side. It's a. It's a misuse of facts at this point.

[A]

Well, we will give you.

[C]

But I could be over here telling.

[B]

You a complete objection.

[A]

We Will give you the chance to supply evidence.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Okay. So if you find the text to debunk it.

[C]

Evidence, yes.

[A]

Or lack thereof, then you can. You can show that. Continue.

[C]

There was a message in some form of fashion along the lines of that we were going to be stopping to get some breakfast, to do whatever on the way there. I thought to myself at that point in time, since I had been up all night editing a video, man, breakfast, coffee sounds good. What I don't want to do personally is wait another hour or something to go get coffee. And what I really, really want is a Starbucks macchiato. I really, really want a caramel macchiato from Starbucks macchiato. Now, what I could do is go up to the room or the living room with everybody on a work trip and stop my feet and say, you know, I want Starbucks. Or I could be appreciative of wherever we're going and whatnot and just make it easy for everybody and say, you know what? I'm just going to make an order myself, get what I want. And then, you know, that way it's not a. It's not any extra problem or anything. And then as I'm making that order, I thought, well, although we are going to stop, it has been brought to my attention that, you know, when I order things for myself, it is perceived not the right thing to do. So I said, well, I thought, you know, we're out of water at the house. I'll at least get them a couple waters to hold them over until we get to where we're going. Because this was going to be the last trip before we went everywhere and whatnot. How that was received was, well, he just got coffee for himself and he only got us waters. Or he only got us waters instead of coffee. I personally am on the side of. I am all for group orders and do them often. Do them often. I do them often. Group orders, by the way, on every once in a while, if I wanted to make an individual order, that that would be okay. And that is just 20, 25. And if you want a little something, get the doordash app, get you some doordash or dash, pass and delivery right to your doorstep.

[A]

Okay, Is that your conclusion, concluding argument?

[C]

That's where that was the debacle for me. And then it appended to sour some more, whatever.

[A]

However, okay, before we get into that, before we get into the airport and.

[C]

Everything else, then, yes, we're concluded.

[A]

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[D]

My timeline. This, the scenario he just described takes place after the airport. The airport. When was first.

[B]

Yes. And he didn't.

[A]

He left that out.

[C]

So the airport was after.

[B]

No, we're talking about when we arrived.

[D]

Let's set the stage.

[A]

They're going back farther than you.

[B]

We're going back further.

[D]

We got to go further back than you did. Was this not in Ohio?

[A]

I haven't heard this.

[B]

It was in Oklahoma.

[D]

So we first landed in Oklahoma and we were walking through the airport and we collectively as a group noticed the Starbucks up ahead. We said, look, there's a Starbucks. Sounds good. Katie and Jonathan turned left and went through the doors that you cannot come.

[B]

Back from to baggage claim.

[D]

To baggage claim. You cannot turn around and go back through. So Abigail and I, we turned and.

[B]

Went through and Matt is behind us.

[D]

Matt's right behind us. We get through the doors, we turn around and he has kept going to Starbucks after we all just talked about, oh, look, a Starbucks. And we were excited he left us, went on his own, and then we.

[B]

Couldn'T get back in.

[D]

We couldn't go back through. And then he comes back with a drink for himself.

[A]

We thought everyone was going to the bathroom.

[D]

We thought everyone was just going to the bathroom.

[A]

Wait, I'm the judge.

[D]

And yeah, at this point we're like, oh, bummer. Because we would have liked a Starbucks. Yeah, but no sweat off of you for that. But we did make known our grievances of, oh, in a next time fashion, we would like to be included if you're going to get like a coffee or Starbucks. That's when we fast forward.

[B]

Yes.

[D]

To the incident that you mentioned to where having referenced and knowing in your heart, hey, we want to be included as a group when we get coffee. This isn't like an every time ordeal, but we had just made known, hey, we want to do this as a group. It's something we enjoy doing together and a fun activity for us to all get coffee and then sit and be excited with them together, you know, for. Then for an order to come through in the morning. Doordash, coffee's on the doorstep. Hey, I don't. I believe you said, I just didn't want y' all to think I forgot about you. Here's a bottle of water.

[B]

Yes, I did. Yes.

[D]

That happening after us having the prior conversation of, hey, it kind of made us feel left out and a little sad that you didn't include us on the Starbucks run because that's something we normally do all do together. Doordash aside, we always go get coffee together.

[B]

You mind if I.

[C]

Please.

[B]

So what he's talking about, about like that the morning of we all said we're gonna go get coffee before. That never happened. What happened was at like 10am I got the.

[D]

I got the text.

[A]

So our. We had to be.

[B]

We had to check out at 11 and we were going like straight to the airport at like 10am Katie text, I think asking, like if we wanted to order something or if we wanted to stop at Whataburger for lunch.

[D]

You want me to read the timestamps right quick?

[A]

Sure.

[D]

9:00Am Katie says, Do y' all want to order food? I responded, if everyone else ordered food, I would get something at 9:07. Do we want to get brunch or just get whatab burger on our way out? I'm good with either. Abigail says, I'm good with grabbing something on the way out. That was the entire conversation was to swing by Whataburger.

[A]

Yes.

[D]

It's not a coffee.

[A]

It's not a coffee.

[C]

It's not a Starbucks.

[D]

It's not a known coffee location.

[B]

It is waterburger a coffee.

[C]

But you don't think that if we had gone by Waterburger, Jonathan wouldn't have suggested Starbucks like we were on. We were going to go get breakfast slash coffee.

[B]

But that didn't happen.

[D]

But it didn't happen.

[B]

That did not.

[C]

Which I anticipated and got coffee. In case that didn't happen.

[B]

You just didn't feel the need to also anticipate and do a nice for your friends. And that's okay. But here, because I think that. I think the whole difference here is just that we just would do things differently for you than you would.

[C]

But you didn't. Not one time on that trip did you say, hey, let's get coffee this morning.

[B]

I never thought about ordering coffee for myself.

[C]

Nobody did until I had coffee in my hand. And that is the only reason that I got upset is because the only reason that this is even a conversation is because nobody else. We all want to talk about being a good friend and we all like to do things that we're included in. Well, nobody else wanted to get coffee. They only wanted. They only wanted it until I got it. The point is, the same thing with Sonic ice Cream. Nobody wanted it until all of a sudden I'm ordering it. Well, yeah, I'll go on that order.

[B]

Well, I bet you would, because we think you have. Because we're like, oh, that's a good idea, Matt.

[A]

We'd also like to do that.

[B]

Now that you brought that up. That does sound good.

[C]

Every morning that we have been on a trip, every morning that we've been on a trip, I've gotten a Starbucks coffee.

[B]

And usually you text both of us.

[C]

And usually I text both of us.

[B]

Both of you really know why this is a different precedent is just the.

[C]

If there wasn't a pre conversation going on that, hey, we'll probably just stop by, we'd run by somewhere or whatever. That's fine. I personally didn't want to wait for that. I was. I didn't just get coffee. I got a breakfast sandwich too. I was hungry. I was tired from the previous night, and I thought, I'm going to go ahead and get something now. And I'll still probably get something at Whataburger, wherever we go.

[D]

From my point of view, my pov, I have no qualms with you getting anything for yourself and not including us. I don't have any right to be included in your order. But as a friend, it Felt a little insulting to have the conversation of, hey, we felt left out when you went and did this on your own because we like to do this all together. Oh, okay. And then to say, hey, I didn't want you to think I forgot about you. I got coffee. He, here's a bottle of water. That felt insulting.

[B]

I did feel a little bit.

[D]

That felt insulting.

[C]

That is a viewpoint that is 100%. I can live in those shoes, and I can walk in those shoes.

[A]

As the judge, I have a question.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Okay. So with these previous orders on these trips, because these orders, a lot of the time, just for the viewer's sake, we doordash quite often for dinners, and usually we use my account for that. And those. Those dinners, those. Everything are covered by me. That's just like on the trip on these separate, like, exchanges and these separate orders.

[D]

Is Matt being reimbursed the majority of the time? No.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Taking that into account, I'll also say I order things and I don't ask for reimbursement.

[C]

It is also worth the noting that I don't ask for reimbursement when I do. But if it's not, it's not about asking. Let's pause on that.

[D]

Let's pause on that, though, because after this debacle, the comment was made by Matt about, well, he's the only one who ever pays for anything. At which point, I venmoed you way more than enough.

[C]

But the point of the matter is, is that I genuinely love.

[D]

I'm venmoing more.

[C]

Don't venmo more because you can't say.

[D]

You genuinely love while also making the.

[B]

Comment about how that probably only covers one meal.

[C]

But if you're going to throw that.

[B]

Out there, I can't.

[C]

Though I can say that if you're going to make the statement that I venmoed you more than you ever would have ever ordered me on your.

[D]

For that trip.

[C]

For that trip. All right. The point of the matter. Don't you dare Venmo me more.

[D]

Oh, buddy, it's coming.

[C]

Dude, I'll have to go get another phone if I see another Venmo notification on that thing. The point of the matter is, is that I love doing things for people. I love. I love the reaction of, like, of just seeing you happy because I bought you a coffee that I thought of you and bought you a coffee. And I love that reaction because that makes me happy.

[B]

And I also love the thought of, wow, you know, Matt really thought of me today, and he thought of his Both of his friends, and he just wanted to do something nice for us.

[D]

But you have to understand, and I.

[C]

Do that all the time.

[D]

We know that you enjoy seeing that. We know that you enjoy doing that.

[C]

That time that I ordered those two coffees, I was not looking for that. I was looking for energy for myself. I was not looking for gratification. I was looking for a quick coffee.

[B]

Well, it's not about doing it for the gratification.

[A]

It's not about doing it from a third party point of view who never partakes in the coffee, but also knows how the mornings go and the timelines go. This is how I see the situation. I validate that you should not have to order for everyone all the time. I validate that because I think you should be able to do what you want. You're a grown man.

[D]

You should.

[C]

I agree.

[A]

Absolutely. But with history knowing, we're usually skirting out the door. We're usually a little late. We're usually some. Sometimes we're not. We're not on time to like get to the next place. And it's not always feasible to stop on the way to the next destination for coffee. I think a little text saying, hey, I'm ordering coffee because I don't think we're gonna have enough time. Does anyone else want coffee? Probably would have boated well.

[C]

And I think probably.

[A]

Probably would have. Would have been a hit. And so I think. I think you're. You're both right.

[D]

I think. I think there's three elements to this.

[B]

Honestly, like hearing more of what Matt said, I'm starting to.

[D]

I understand it.

[A]

I.

[B]

And I already understand your piece. I already understand it. But like, at the base level, we're.

[C]

All on the same thing.

[A]

I think the whole element that is causing a rift is that instead of just saying, I just got coffee for myself, it's because you did take time to order them something. It was just something.

[D]

It was just what you knew we didn't want.

[C]

And here's the thing, and that's what got my goat, is because that's how it was perceived rather than, well, he must have noticed that we were fresh out of waters last night and we don't have any waters this morning. This tap water is. But disgusting. And so I'm for sure gonna need some water. At least hold me over until we get to the breakfast.

[B]

I mean, that both would have been. I'm just kidding.

[D]

Here's the thing.

[C]

There's no.

[B]

I meant, I meant like the coffee and three.

[D]

There's three elements to this Conundrum. There's the element of autonomy, there's the element of friendship, and there's the element of communication. And I think of autonomy, you feel tied and chained to being forced to help others. If I'm speaking out of turn, let me know. And so in some sense you go, I don't have to do this. Maybe you feel taken for granted, which could be an element of failure of friendship on our side that you feel that way. But we also see a failure of friendship on your side to not include us. And I think that brings us to element 3, which may be just poor communication. Maybe if you're feeling this way of, you know, I feel like I'm the only one who ever does it that could be communicated. I think we, we. I think we would happily accept that.

[B]

I think from going forward from now on, we'll definitely like, all take turns.

[A]

Like I have.

[B]

I have doordash, I have dash. Pass. It's just that you're usually the person that suggests the idea. So that's kind of why it's not like we expect you to. But it's more like you're just, you're just the guy that usually does it.

[C]

You're go getter.

[B]

Assume, I guess, that you're going to.

[A]

Why have three delivery charges? Why have two delivery charges? Because that makes sense. So I do feel like it all comes down to let's rotate who pays. Yeah, let's.

[C]

This is what I didn't want. And this is what I didn't want because the money has never been an issue.

[D]

$75. Oh my gosh.

[C]

I'm about to literally lose it now.

[A]

This one. I'm literally about to lose it. Guys.

[C]

It's, it's. It's. What I didn't want is the same thing. It's like now there's a thing about it. Right now there's a thing because I have no issue and furthermore, enjoy. Not for. Not because I know. Not for the satisfaction of the reaction or whatever. It's because I genuinely love making you happy by getting you coffee. That's what it makes me happy. What, what got my goat was that knowing this. How. How easily the tides did a 180 into now he's the freaking archangel and he's has come down to deprive us of what we wanted that morning all the way down to the airport, which was a weaker argument, and that has been accepted as a weaker argument. And I will give you all credit for that. Just because you two were sheep and went. Went left and I went Right?

[D]

Yes.

[C]

He said, like, oh, there's a Starbucks. Oh, you're right. Go get coffee.

[A]

As another third party of that incident, we're following the group we had just discussed also. Well, we'll just get Starbucks on the way because we're about to get the car. And we were trying to get. I can't remember what the timeline was, but we were trying to get somewhere.

[B]

Mm.

[A]

And so we were like, instead of just. Instead of getting coffee here, let's go ahead and get our bags.

[B]

Jonathan wanted it, too, because Jonathan wanted it too.

[A]

So we knew we were going to be stopping. And so we were like, well, let's just keep going. And so then we ended up standing there waiting for Matt to get his coffee.

[C]

There was nobody in that line. I was the only person that walked into that counter.

[B]

It didn't take a long time. It didn't take a long time.

[C]

It was probably my coffee mostly finished by the time we got out of there.

[D]

It was probably at max two minutes.

[A]

But everybody else was also tired. And so if we were gonna stop, then we would have all just stopped.

[B]

There's also just a, like, big difference to me between. And it's not a bad thing. It's like he fully has the confidence to break away from what everyone else is doing, not tell anyone, and just, like, do his own thing and assume that we're gonna, like, meet back up and everyone's gonna be okay.

[C]

That's how. That's how everybody else is that I do.

[B]

I, standing at the back of all four of y', all, in front of me, would never just in my head be like, I'm just not going to tell anyone and I'm just going to break away over here. And then they can't get back in, but I'll just meet them down.

[A]

I don't know.

[C]

It's just like, I never, when I.

[B]

Do go to an airport to do.

[C]

That, like, if Katie gets us all airport tickets, it is my assumption that we are all airport tickets, plane tickets.

[B]

Tickets to the airport.

[C]

Like, we are all grown adults, and we are all in responsible for being there when that plane boards at 2:30. Correct. Whatever you do, how you get there, if you want to walk the day before, if you want to do whatever. Whatever, go for it. But you better be on the airport or in the.

[D]

Fully agree.

[C]

Fully agree. You better be boarding the plane.

[B]

Agree. Yeah, Agree.

[A]

Right. This was not that circumstance.

[D]

The only.

[A]

Because we were leaving.

[D]

The only comment I would make on that is we were leaving. I fully agree. You know, go do whatever you want in the airport? What? I don't care what anyone does in the airport.

[B]

I care what people do.

[D]

Oh, yeah, Yeah. I don't care if you want to go, hey, I'm gonna walk down to the end and go to this restaurant. I'm gonna sit by myself. I'm gonna go do this. I'm gonna go do that.

[A]

What?

[D]

The weird part. It's like, we get to the airport, and it almost feels like we're not friends anymore.

[B]

Yeah, like.

[D]

Like, it's like we were like, oh, we talk. We communicate. We're friends in the car. We get to the airport. It's like, where did he go? He didn't say anything. Oh, he went and got stuff without us.

[C]

That is true. But that's just like how, like, with every. With everybody else that I go to the airport with, which is one other group of people, which is like. That's just how it is. Like. Like the moment the plane lands, like, if we're coming home or whatever, there is no, oh, well, it was a good time, everybody. See y' all next week.

[B]

We all feel that way, But I think also, like, we walked up to you, and we were like, matt, what are you doing sitting over here in the corner by yourself? And you're like, but I generally need the outlet for editing. And we go.

[D]

We go sit at our gate. When we counted, like, 14 outlets at.

[B]

Every seat, every chair. And so. So you might not have known that, like, whatever. And yes, you actually were editing. I understand that. But it was just like, at that point, it makes us think, why is he lying about not, like, the outlet? Because it's clearly not the outlet.

[C]

And it's like, I wasn't saying that that was the only outlet available. It was just the only. That was the first available outlet that I saw that was in a seat right there. I wasn't saying it's the only outlet.

[D]

I think this is my. My take on it after sitting on it for a while is that, you know, I think within. I think a group has dynamics, and I think individuals within the group naturally acclimate into.

[C]

They.

[D]

You just naturally kind of take on a role and your door dash guy.

[C]

And that was my mistake. Historically, that was my mistake.

[D]

But how is it a mistake if you truly enjoy?

[B]

That's just who you are.

[A]

And so door dash guy. Okay. From a third party. Because, again, I never really partake in these. If you're wanting to be door dash guy out of the goodness of your heart, cool. Because then you're just being nice and you're you're helping out your friends, and you're. You're wanting to see the joy on their face. I get that. But then there's the other aspect of just being a good guy and being like, we're all short on time. I'm ordering right now. It would take three minutes to add on a couple things so that they made sure they got coffee before they.

[C]

Got to the airport when I made that order.

[A]

But communication might ensure that you are in that circumstance because you're not trying to just do it for fun. Say, hey, guys, if you could Venmo me after this one. And I don't think anyone would take offense to pay for that.

[D]

I did. I just did.

[B]

I'm going to tonight.

[D]

I think you should. I mean, you should get all square.

[B]

How much do I owe you, Matt? Probably for the past couple.

[C]

It doesn't matter.

[D]

At least 50.

[C]

I've deleted both apps. Uber Eats and DoorDash, and sworn off deliveries. Yeah. What would you call that? Mobile eating.

[B]

It's also so funny. The whole time we've been doing this, I've just been. Me and Matt have been looking at each other. This little crack, and it's just like, I have to get down to make eye contact with him, and then I'll just see, like, his eyes right below the.

[C]

Heel.

[A]

Can I make a motion?

[B]

Sure.

[A]

I'd love to take this wig off. It is just so bad.

[B]

I kind of like it.

[A]

My itches.

[D]

I'm not doing that.

[B]

I feel good.

[C]

It's just these headphones actually.

[D]

Motion yourself.

[A]

Yeah, I will be. I am.

[C]

I have two bigger ears.

[B]

The Ben Franklin one is available now. Nate, I know how much you were.

[C]

Let me hold. Let me hold that Ben Franklin one. Yeah, I just want to hold it.

[A]

Do I have a line on my forehead?

[C]

Yes.

[D]

Little squiggles.

[C]

Looks like you just took your socks off.

[D]

Y' all know, y'.

[A]

All. Y' all with inflammation. No.

[C]

What? This is better than scratching that, too.

[D]

Oh, dude, are you kidding?

[C]

I mean, I look like we're getting one of these.

[B]

You look kind of cool. You look like a cool, old, like, hippie guy.

[C]

I could be Yankovic. I'm not sure.

[A]

Okay. As the. As the judge in this situation. Yeah.

[C]

Who won?

[A]

Here's how. Here's how I see it. There is no winner.

[D]

I agree.

[C]

There'll be one in the comments.

[A]

Y' all can tell us in the comments.

[C]

He'll be a winner in the comments.

[A]

If there is a winner and a loser, y' all can choose that in the comments.

[C]

I follow me for the winner. Follow me for the winner.

[A]

I believe there is no winner and loser in the situation. I believe. You know, maybe. Maybe y' all shouldn't have taken for granted that he's just doordash guy.

[C]

Agree.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

And then. But maybe doormat guy. But also I think being considerate of not just friends, but also co workers in an environment that is predictable. Friends over co workers from past, you know, incidences of running out the door and not having time to get coffee and you already doing it. And you obviously did think of them. It would have been nice to ask them what their coffee order was.

[C]

I should have just got them nothing. I saved me. I had a less argument because then.

[B]

You could have just said you forgot getting.

[D]

I mean, what got my goat.

[A]

No.

[B]

Or done.

[D]

Was the. The water bottle or done.

[A]

We are done. It is done.

[C]

That was the big thing that sent this all is because the goat getters were the same thing but on. On two different extremes. On two different extremes. But the goat getter was the water.

[D]

The goat getter was the water.

[C]

It was.

[A]

Okay, so I think we're kissing. Makeup.

[B]

Oh, we're fine.

[C]

Yeah, we're fine.

[B]

We haven't even talked about this in like a month.

[C]

Which honestly, like, off, like him and I have had like blow ups like, like actual, like argument before that we've kissed and made up after that. So yeah, for sure. This was nothing.

[D]

This was nothing.

[C]

Besides, I mean, we haven't been the same, you and I. Yeah, we have.

[D]

A tendency to caught.

[C]

You and I.

[D]

You know, just if there's a. If there's a phrase, there's going to.

[A]

Now be a Reddit thread that says Nate and Matt in a relationship. They kiss.

[B]

Nate and Matt kiss.

[C]

Somebody write that short story and send it to Katie to proofread. What is it? What was the other one every short stories on?

[A]

Maybe we don't need to talk about wattpad. I have a history there.

[C]

That's the next one. Dude. What if we like, take that out.

[A]

Take it out right now. Leave it.

[C]

What if we like.

[B]

I'm not repeating it. It's just like a. It's like a little Easter egg in the video.

[A]

Take that out.

[C]

You know, like those scary stories that girls watch when they're doing makeup. Or like mine does it to go to sleep. Yeah, but like, they have like animations for the stories. Yeah, we should get your wattpad stories, all of them. And make animations of them.

[D]

I have an idea. Can we do this for fun? Yes or no?

[A]

I don't know yet.

[B]

What's the idea?

[D]

Come on. I want to. I've pitched this to other people in the past and no one has ever done it.

[B]

No one wants to do it.

[D]

No one wants to do it, but I think it would be done. We're gonna write a story. Okay. A book, whatever you want to call it. Chapters. And then it'll be a scenario where I write a paragraph and pass it. You write a paragraph. Pass it.

[C]

We could do that for.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[D]

It keeps going. And then you get it. You get it like four paragraphs later and you're like, what's happened?

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Oh, I gotta add more.

[B]

So interesting though, to see like.

[D]

Like, where does it go?

[B]

Direction that you were thinking of taking it, and then like reading what someone else thought of and you go, like doing. And then you're like, that's not at all where I ex.

[C]

Imagine every one of your responses were just. And then they kissed. Next chapter three chapter later. And then they kissed.

[A]

But what if I just throw y' all into. Like, that would be the point that.

[B]

I mean, Nate would have to go out and he. He'd have to continue writing the. That you're working on.

[D]

You want to talk about a main character plot ending, a death.

[C]

Immediately, she slowly starts taking off his pants. And out of nowhere, a grand piano comes off the top floor.

[A]

I think the rest of the episode kind of just needs to be a little catch up because a lot of things have happened and just kind of keeping everyone in the know. So order. Order of operations. So Taz is here with the goats. You already saw that video of him arriving.

[D]

Big Taz.

[A]

So I don't know for sure. I think he's done got. Got Blossom.

[D]

Really.

[A]

I think he has. So we'll see. During the video that we filmed last, was it a couple days ago where we were doing bump dates, we noticed Annie, her utter had developed and she's like the last one due. And that can be indicative of placentitis and, like, really serious things that could cause, like, preterm labor and things like that. And so we took her to the vet and left her over the weekend. And so she is back home now. Nothing on her blood work showed anything. Nothing came back. Really, really telling us anything. And that's kind of the sucky part. Honestly, I would rather go somewhere and they say, hey, here's what's going on. Let's fix it.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Instead of just being like, no, she's fine, but something's obviously not fine, so we're just gonna have to really pay attention to her for any other changes. But that's where we're at with Annie. So we are going on a, like, tropical trip prior to folding season. And so there is going to be a week where there's like a missing video. So I think next week there won't be a video on Thursday or something like that. Just because we don't have to. To pre film everything. So we're going to. I guess I'm not going to say where until afterwards. We're going to another island.

[D]

It's Kirk's and Takeos.

[A]

Sure. So we're gonna. We're gonna go just, you know, be bums prior to being on lockdown for the next four months.

[C]

But anyways, would sound nice.

[A]

I think that's. I think that's honestly about it, so. Oh, there's. I found whimsy.

[D]

You found whimsy?

[A]

I found whimsy.

[C]

Where was she in.

[A]

I found like. Like, we've been talking this whole time about, like, this Christmas season finding whimsy in, you know, like, you have to make it as an adult instead of it just happening.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And so on TikTok. And I've seen it for a couple years. I saw it. Scroll through. Scroll through. A clip from a Tommy Profit concert, like his Christmas concert. And I honestly thought this was like a, you know, across the country type thing for the Christmas season. And apparently it's only in Nashville and it's only one night. And so I found tickets last Thursday and then we went on Sunday. And so it was. I guess it was last night. It was fantastic. And we. I already bought tickets for next year.

[D]

It looked amazing.

[A]

It, like. So I. I had it on my Snapchat and I was that person just. Just snapping the whole concert because it was so good. Like, I know no one wants to watch a concert on someone's Snapchat, but, like, it was so good. It was a. It was like the way he described it is. He was a. Or he like. Like, he. After he was a worship leader for a little while in his life, he became a composer for films and, like this epic, you know, movie themes and whatnot. And so he was like, I wanted to take that type of music and create like a, you know, story of the Nativity and of. Of Christmas. And so each of your favorite Christmas songs is revamped, and it's like, super, especially when you're there in person because it's a full orchestra, full choir. Each song has a different singer. My favorite is Jordan. I think it's Jordan Smith, he won the voice. And then, like, Colton Dixon, who was on American idol, was there. Crowder was there. Like, there was just amazing singers. And, like, I cried so many times just from, like. Because it's just so big.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, like, all the music feels so big.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

The only thing was they did have confetti, and I hated the confetti.

[C]

But that would be the highlight for me.

[D]

Yeah, I think it would be the highlight for me, too.

[A]

It was everywhere. Like, I don't know. Like, you know, Jonathan's shirt had a. You know, it was just like a little gap that big. He had, like, 12 pieces down it. Like, how we were trying to think of the math equation. You know what I'm saying? For that much confetti. Don't try to do it. Don't try to do.

[C]

Would easy be easy?

[D]

What do we think?

[A]

It's a lot. So, yeah, that was very whimsical. And I'm gonna try to keep doing stuff like that where it's like before, I feel like my brain would have been like, it's in two days. I can't go to that.

[D]

Yeah. You know, you need to start. You need to start whimsy Wednesdays.

[A]

Whimsy Wednesdays.

[C]

Like a Hallmark movie. Like, I found my whimsy.

[A]

I've been searching for my whimsy for last week or I guess this week. Sunday's the first day of the week. My whimsy for this week was the Tommy profit birth of a king concert.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

It was so good. So anyway, anything to add? Anything to add? Are we. Anything coming up? I mean, I think other than, like, we're kind of in that season where nothing's really going on before. Everything's going on.

[D]

Oh, yeah. Matt bought a house.

[C]

Well, in contingents, but someone come by.

[A]

Matt's house so that he can buy this other house.

[C]

The address is.

[A]

I mean, there are other things going on, but we just can't. We just can't tell y' all everything.

[C]

We're having another baby.

[A]

Oh, you're just gonna drop that in there.

[C]

Oh, wait. Nope. Yeah, that's all right.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Well, you're editing it, so.

[C]

Yeah, you can grab another bender.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

It's the second one.

[A]

It's just not as important as the first one.

[C]

Well, now it's like, ultrasound approved. Approved. Confirmed. Yeah, Approved.

[A]

That's so fun. We found out about it in Oklahoma, so. Way before y'. All.

[C]

Yeah, I just wanted to make sure.

[D]

Maybe that's why he was so grumpy way earlier.

[B]

Don't act like you didn't know beforehand. I walked.

[C]

I didn't.

[B]

On y' all talking.

[C]

I was actually in the middle of a phone conversation.

[A]

They gaslit you and they did. It wasn't.

[B]

They did.

[A]

She walked up on them talking about Matt having a new baby. Like, talking about. Oh, yeah, like being. Or she was sick or, you know, something like that. And she was like, what? And they were like, nothing.

[B]

I was like, what are you talking about?

[A]

I was.

[B]

I said, why are you talking about that? And you were like, well, I mean, we just both have young children, like our wives.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I remember during pregnancy. And I was like, okay.

[C]

I remember that. I remember thinking at the end of that, that that was not a conflict.

[D]

I just kept quiet because I didn't know how to.

[B]

You didn't want to lie? Like, I didn't want to.

[D]

I didn't want. I didn't know how to, like, say anything without gaslighting. Without lying to you. So I just.

[B]

Jonathan.

[A]

Why did you tell Jonathan before me and Abigail?

[C]

I was gonna tell you all that day. I don't know. I was just excited. Like, I want to tell somebody, like.

[B]

But, like, here.

[C]

Here's why we got into the whole freaking coffee debacle we're in now is stuff like this, by the way, I'm just kidding. I told y' all I wanted to make it a dinner thing, and Jonathan was like, hey, I'm pregnant, y'. All. Yeah.

[A]

And then.

[C]

But that would be. For y'. All. It was going to be like, dinner.

[B]

It's a bigger deal for us.

[D]

I knew first at dinner.

[C]

I called Nate when I found out.

[A]

Everybody else knew already. And then he put up his thing, and to me and Abigail, surprise, he said, maddie's pregnant. And we were like. But everyone else knew, so. By the way, I have dented this thing.

[C]

You only hit it, like, three times.

[D]

I mean, you. You had some authority in the swing.

[A]

I've dented it. Okay, that's it for today's catching up with Katie. Hope y' all enjoyed. Let me know if you agree with my verdict on this whole debacle or if you have some other opinions, other concerns if you think there was an actual winner, loser, things like that.

[C]

Let us know if we should bring this back up.

[A]

Yeah. Does Katie's courtroom need to stay in action? Let us know, and we will see you in the next one.