We Are Trying To Be Better...

Summary

Podcast Summary: "We Are Trying To Be Better..."

Podcast: Katching Up With Katie
Host: Katie Van Slyke
Date: January 6, 2026
Guests: Lindsay, Nate, Maddie
Duration: ~53 minutes content

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Episode Overview

In this heartfelt and humorous episode, Katie Van Slyke is joined by her close circle (Lindsay, Nate, and Maddie) for an unfiltered discussion about the holidays, farm life, motherhood, business pressures, and a deep dive into their personal goals for the new year. They also give listeners authentic, behind-the-scenes insights into ranch life at Running Springs—especially foaling season. The episode flows from Christmas stories and family traditions to intentions for 2026, offering warmth, relatability, and plenty of laughter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Holiday Recap & Family Traditions

00:00–13:30

• The group reflects on their different Christmas experiences—some with big families and children, others with quieter, low-key gatherings.

  • Katie observes, “I think this is the last one of 2025, which is super exciting also. I can’t believe how quickly this year went.” (00:03)

• Magic of seeing little kids understand Christmas for the first time:

  • Favorite story: a disappointed three-year-old, expecting to find Santa delivering his presents. The omnipresent disappointment? “No bell” on a new bike:

  “He walked over to it. Three years old, walked over to it, goes: ‘No bell.’ My dad would have had that in the trash can.” – Katie (02:32)

  • Babies and toddlers got simple but overwhelmingly exciting presents—tricycles, dolls, play kitchens; sometimes the sheer number of gifts was overwhelming:

  “We had to remove some things because she didn’t know what to play with and it started making her upset.” – Maddie (03:26)

• Play kitchens described as elaborate, high-effort gifts for kids:

  “I opened this thing up and the book says, 52 steps to put this together...It took about three and a half hours.” – Lindsay (05:13, 05:19) "Now these things are crazy these days. I mean, it's got a little ice machine...The pots and pans are like stainless steel. You give it a little electricity and some heat, and you're cooking." – Lindsay (05:58, 06:11)

  • The nostalgia of simpler toys growing up, and joking about modern toys giving kids too much familiarity with ‘real’ ovens.

• The warmth and calmness of their own Christmases, especially compared to busier childhoods:

  “We were talking about how we need to savor the low Keyness prior to like us having babies because then it’s not low key for 18 years.” – Katie (10:15)

  • Many in the group now avoid planning anything busy on Christmas Day, opting for quiet family time.

  “I’ll never go back. Nobody, I don’t care, family or otherwise, ever try to plan anything with me on Christmas Day. I’ll say no.” – Lindsay (10:44)

Memorable Moment:

Katie’s honesty about dragging out Christmas decorations well after the New Year:

“Mine arguably stay up through Valentine’s Day. As far as I’m concerned, still Christmas right now.” – Katie (13:13, 13:16)

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New Year's Resolutions—Real Talk

13:34–31:00

• The group shifts to discussing resolutions, each sharing both serious intentions and comedic dreams for 2026.
  • Nate: Wants his "word to be his word," tackling overcommitment, with a wild solution:

  "I want my word to be my word... I have a tendency to over commit. And... it's going to involve a four day singular excursion... to Japan." (14:04–15:31)

  • He jokes about how now it's cheaper to go to Tokyo Disney than Disney World in Florida, adding to the travel dreams (16:13).
• Lindsay: Focused on improving health and, most crucially, time management. She reflects on the difficulties of delegating as a business owner:

  "I run myself into the ground. I don’t have any time... or enough time to spend with family. So, like, time management is my goal." (18:20–19:21)

  • The group resonates with the necessity of letting go and delegating in business and ranch operations.
• Katie: Wants to re-integrate hobbies like riding (her horse, Denver), and shift her work boundaries:

  “Try to find ways of doing it to where I'm not editing until 9:00 o’clock at night or 10:00 at night. I’d like to be done at 6 or 7.” (22:38)

  • She’s committed to less perfectionism and more spontaneous content: “Sometimes I think simplicity is better... it's okay to just post like, a cute video with a song over it.” (23:09)
  • On fitness: “Not focusing on weight... I would like to go to the gym like twice a week... Just go move, and for mobility.” (23:43)
• Maddie: Struggles with sticking to gym habits, especially with the upheaval of moving, but wants more at-home hobbies and simple routines (24:28).

Notable Quote:

“If you read 10 pages a day of anything... your brain will be better off for it. And that’s scientifically—whatever it is. It doesn’t have to be the scientific names of cows. It can be smut.” – Nate (28:34)

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Lighter Segments & Personality Reveals

31:00–36:08

• The conversation drifts into driving habits and personal quirks, with Lindsay confessing her New Year’s goal is to be more patient—especially with road rage and long lines:

  “So I’m trying to teach myself patience, because of that, but also like while shopping...I tend to...just walk out if the line is super, super long.” – Lindsay (26:17)

• Everyone playfully confesses driving anxieties—Nate admits to “marshalling the road,” and Katie jokes about being overly cautious.

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Foaling Season Primer & Ranch Talk

36:09–~48:00

• With foaling season looming, they demystify what’s to come for new listeners and Lindsay (who hasn’t experienced breeding or birthing season at the ranch yet).
• Katie explains the technicalities of “foal alert” systems and preparation:

  “When the feet poke out...there’s a magnet and it breaks the device apart...which calls my phone and tells me that she’s having her baby.” (37:45–38:20)

  • The group jokes about the resulting chaos: “It’s the gummy bear song!” (38:37)
• Step-by-step rundown of foal delivery:
  • Mother and baby bond, warm towels, checking for first feed, dip navel in iodine, confirm first poop ('meconium'), monitor placenta passing.
  • Emphasis on watching for complications and intervening only when necessary.
• Explanation for January foaling:

  “January 1st is considered every horse in that registry’s birthday... So, when you’re showing horses...the babies born in January are way more mature and ready than the babies born in June.” (42:56–44:45)

• Training and breeding routines explained—use of 16-hour light cycles to induce early breeding.

Memorable Moment:

“If Raven had her baby right now, I would go into a comatose state. I would go into a spiral. I would just pass out.” – Katie (44:48)

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Q&A Rapid Fire – Ranch Operations

48:00–end

• How much do foals weigh?

  "Standard is kind of like 10% of mama...so...around £100 when they come out." – Katie (46:23)

• Mini foals can be as small as 20–25 lbs.

• Talks about naming conventions for upcoming mini foals:

  “If Coco...has a girl, Chanel...if she has a boy, Glen. Glen, Coco.” – Katie (48:13)

• When to intervene during labor:

  “If they are working really hard, not making good progress...I’d rather go hold pressure, not pull, hold pressure...” – Katie (50:57)

• Value of knowing your horses well and trusting your intuition vs. over-intervening.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "No bell." – The story of the Christmas bike gone slightly wrong (02:32), became a recurring joke.
• “I want my word to be my word.” – Nate, on overcommitting (14:04)
• “Sometimes simplicity is better...it doesn't have to always be like thought about and put together.” – Katie (23:09)
• “Mine arguably stay up through Valentine’s Day. As far as I’m concerned, still Christmas right now.” – Katie (13:13)
• “January 1st is every horse’s birthday.” – Katie, on horse registries (42:56)
• “If Raven had her baby right now, I would go into a comatose state.” – Katie (44:48)

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Important Timestamps

• 00:00–03:30 – Christmas stories, “No bell” anecdote
• 05:11–06:22 – The epic saga of putting together a play kitchen
• 10:27–13:16 – The value of calm holidays, extended Christmas
• 14:04–17:02 – New Year’s resolutions; “my word is my word,” Japan travel
• 18:20–23:41 – Time management and business owner stress
• 23:43–24:28 – Gym habits and at-home workout dreams
• 26:02–28:00 – Lindsay’s impatience, road rage confession
• 37:45–38:20 – How “foal alert” works
• 42:56–44:45 – Why January is foaling season
• 46:23 – Foal birth weights
• 50:57 – When to intervene in horse labor

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Tone & Language

The mood is warm, authentic, and humorous with a touch of self-deprecation. The speakers feel candid and relatable, especially as they discuss real-life struggles with time, balance, and personal improvement. The tone is farm-casual, peppered with practical advice from experience and plenty of “inside baseball” when it comes to horsemanship and ranching.

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Useful For…

• Anyone interested in authentic ranch life, not just the glamorous moments.
• Listeners wanting a balance of practical horse/farm knowledge and personal, family-centered conversation.
• Fans of Katie Van Slyke’s unfiltered approach to rural business and motherhood.

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The episode delivers genuine connection, plenty of laughs, and a sneak peek into the less-glamorous, deeply rewarding side of life on the ranch—while reminding us all that becoming 'better' is a work in progress.

Transcript

[A]

Welcome back to Catching it with Katie. I think this is the Last 1 of 2025, which is super exciting also. I can't believe how quickly this year went, but it's been great. So there will be a 2025 recap video. Stay tuned for that one. But today I think we're just gonna chat about like our Christmases and maybe like a little New Year's resolution chat. And also stay tuned if you have questions going into 2026 for some things that we're about to be experiencing. Ms. Lindsay hasn't been here for, you know, f ing season, breeding season, things like that. And so she, as that person is going to ask questions that you probably have as well if you haven't watched. So I guess how was Yalls Christmas?

[B]

It was great.

[C]

It was great.

[B]

I got to go home and see family back in Arkansas and I haven't. I think it's been like two years since I've gotten to do Christmas with them, so. So it was, it was really nice to be able to go home.

[A]

And so was it fun because both of you have little girls that are just now not potatoes. Like, they're just now kind of like cognitively aware. And so was it fun, like watching them open presents and yeah, I got.

[C]

Some really good photos. I brought the camera out, took some cool photos.

[B]

She went to town and her favorite word right now is wow.

[A]

So it was great.

[B]

And so, I mean, you talk about Christmas lot, Christmas constantly. Just wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. It's like the perfect time of year for wow.

[A]

Right, Right. So what was each of their. Okay, let me just preface this. Every adult I've talked to that has a kid between the age. I mean, your little girls are smaller than this, so like, everything is great to them. But like, every parent I talk to that has somebody between three and like nine, every parent was like, yeah, they were a little underwhelmed this year. They were a little disappointed. And I was just like, like, for instance, my little cousin who's three, they had told him, like, you know, Santa Claus is coming in the morning, like, he's bringing you presents. And when he walked out, he was like, where's Santa? And was so upset that Santa wasn't there because he thought he was gonna like, like Santa was going to be handing him his presents.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

And so then he was upset.

[C]

A wake up call first thing.

[A]

Yeah, he was upset that Santa had already left his presence. But then once they calmed him down and he got to looking and all that good stuff, his big present was A bike. And he walked over to it. Three years old, walked over to it, goes Nobel.

[C]

My dad would have had that in the trash can.

[A]

No Bell. And like my cousin Andrew's like, you little jerk.

[B]

Yeah, that's, that's, that's so true though. I feel like my dad would have been like, I just, if I just said no bell. He just went, oh, you know what? You're no bike.

[A]

Mind. This is probably the sweetest little boy ever. Like, but his, his other cousin Charlotte had gotten a, a bell or a bike with a bell the night before. And that was like the hit was the bell.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so that was, that was a disappointment.

[C]

Now that was a preface for sure.

[D]

I'm going to start saying that now.

[B]

No Bell, no to anything.

[D]

Any anything. Doesn't make sense. Nobel.

[A]

I just, that was my favorite whole story of, of Christmas. But like, what was I guess at being just a little over one? What were their, like big. What were their presents? You know, I don't even know what, what do you get a 1 year old?

[B]

Do you have any big ones?

[C]

She got like four babies and then.

[B]

Yeah, we got a couple babies and.

[C]

She got a tricycle, which she loved. But it was, she certainly wasn't over underwhelmed. She loved everything. But she was almost overwhelmed. She was overwhelmed? Yeah, it was too much. We had to remove some things because she didn't know what to play with and it started making her upset.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Like she was like everything and nothing was in the right place. And like the babies weren't sitting in the sidecar. Right. And it was entirely too much. Christmas was, was turning south pretty, pretty quick, so we had to remove some things.

[A]

Well, I figured getting her little babies would be great since, you know, y' all are expecting number two that getting her used to like.

[C]

Yeah, we're worried she's kind of mean, but. Well, she's mean to like me just physically. But like the baby like overly takes care of him. Like she'll sit there and rock them. She'll go like pat him to sleep.

[A]

Which is funny. Like, has she seen Maddie be like that with any other baby?

[C]

Well, we just, she's what we do to her, I guess.

[A]

But that's.

[B]

So we do it with the, we do it with the fake baby too.

[C]

Yeah, for sure.

[B]

Like, oh, your baby, she'll stuff the.

[C]

Bottle in its mouth or whatever. And now she picked up. Like we'll be able. She'll be walking down the hall and I'll just go like night night. And she'll just drop Five seconds or whatever.

[A]

That's funny.

[C]

She, yeah, she, she had a really, really good Christmas. And of course got books. Big book, reader books.

[A]

Books, babies.

[B]

Our big gift was, which was a mess to put together.

[A]

Uhhuh.

[B]

It was a play kitchen. I thought it was a water table. It wasn't. I was swiftly corrected. Yeah. I opened this thing up and the book says, 52 steps to put this together.

[A]

Got it.

[B]

It's the night of Christmas Eve and I'm trying to be quiet, but that was the big gift.

[A]

So it had to be put together.

[B]

It had to be put together. It took about three and a half hours.

[A]

Dear Lord.

[B]

But she loves it.

[A]

Was it a hit?

[B]

It was a hit. Oh, no. Yeah, big hit.

[A]

I, My big thing when I was little, I don't think we, I had a play. I don't feel like they had stuff like that when we were little. Like, set, like already pre made play kit. Like I had a little play house, but it was just a shell. There wasn't like a play kitchen with play food. And I remember my biggest thing when I was little, so probably more like 4 to 7, is coloring food, cutting it out, making stacks for my restaurant. And then I had like, I was stocked up, and then I would serve on a plate.

[B]

Yeah, like that. Now these things are crazy these days. I mean, it's got a little ice machine. You take your little cup, you put it in, drops the ice out.

[C]

Oh, it's a little too much. Like some things. Like, like I would like to play.

[B]

The pots and like, the pots and pans are like stainless steel. They're real. Like I'm like this thing, this is, I mean, you give it a little like electricity and some heat, and you're cooking.

[A]

That's insane.

[B]

It's, it's really crazy.

[C]

I, I, it's almost a problem because, like, I almost don't want her, like, get too familiar with like, the oven.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Because Lily has one too.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

She's like, she'll, she'll run right up to it.

[B]

And then you just unlocked a fear I didn't have before.

[A]

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[D]

How'd you get that mixed up with a water table?

[B]

So there was just a lot of conversation about she would love a water table. She'd love a water table. And I thought we had gotten her a water table for her birthday. So this, this play kitchen was a birthday present.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

From months back.

[D]

Right.

[B]

That we decided, I think we got her too much. She's gonna be overwhelmed. So we said, let's save this one and we'll just do it as a Christmas gift. So in my head the whole time I thought, oh, we got her this water table. I'm putting it together, looking at an oven going, that's a weird water table. Why are there so many parts to this table? I'm like losing it. And then I was informed it's a kitchen.

[A]

That's so. So what? What did you. Your mom came into town. She did. I got to meet your mommy. And she came in and had a little tour of the farm on Christmas Eve.

[C]

Nice.

[A]

So did y' all have fun?

[D]

We did. We had a lot of fun. She. She really enjoyed it.

[A]

We.

[D]

After that, we went to this little house sitting gig where we were hanging out with this dog. We got honey baked ham sliders. So good.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Made some pea salad, some broccoli, also good. Underrated deviled eggs and literally just hung out.

[A]

That's awesome.

[D]

Presents, Watched tv.

[A]

Jonathan and I were talking about how like that sounds so nice and low key and chill. And we were talking about how like our Christmas was also very chill. I'm an only child of an only child, so hanging out with my dad's side of the family is very small, low key. We played a game and barely swapped presents. Like we really didn't even do presents. And then like on my mom's side of the family, we had done Jonathan's side of the family the weekend prior. So my mom's side of the family was that evening and it's like all kids and it's like wild. But we did again, like we gave them presents but we weren't, I don't know, it was just really, really low key. And we were talking about how we need to savor the low Keyness prior to like us having babies because then it's like it's not low key for 18 years. Yeah.

[B]

Oh well, I'll say this. All of our. We didn't have anything to do on Christmas day, like all the family stuff either. It happened before, it was going to happen after. I'll never go back, Nobody, I don't care, family or otherwise, ever try to plan anything with me on Christmas Day. I'll say no.

[C]

I've been.

[B]

There was, there was nothing like waking up and going, we can just chill. There's nothing, we can just enjoy the morning as a family.

[A]

I don't know, I've, I've never felt rushed on Christmas my entire life because we always did my, we always. And this is prior to, you know, me getting married to Jonathan. So we did Christmas Eve with his family as well in past years. Um, but now that there's a grandchild in the mix with our nephew, they go to their, like her side of the family, which they have to drive to. And so like we generally do their family and I like a week ahead. So that's actually amazing. Like we do, we dedicate like a whole day to them. And then Christmas Eve, my, my grandfather came in from Florida, we did it with him. And so then on Christmas Day we just had breakfast. We did the little bit of gift giving, like barely any that morning and didn't have anything else to do till five. And like, so I mean it really wasn't. Yeah, like that big of a deal, you know, Like I, I had one thing to cook and it was very easy. Like it just, it was still chill.

[B]

Yeah. And I think, you know, I think in my family we're going to start pushing for A more traditional celebration of Christmas in the sense of, I feel like all growing up, the lead up to Christmas was really exciting. And then Christmas Eve was like the peak excitement of Christmas. And then Christmas Day happens and it's done over and it's a letdown.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

It's like, oh. But traditionally, Christmas starts December 25th and goes through January 5th.

[A]

See, I think kind of subconsciously that's how I operate.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because I didn't start really watching Christmas movies until Christmas Eve.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I watched one last night.

[B]

Like, right now is still Christmas.

[A]

I, I feel that way. My Christmas decorations are up. I'm like, Rebecca brought her two little girls over last night. We watched the Grinch. And I still feel Christmassy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I think, I think I subconsciously act that way, like through New Year's.

[B]

And I never thought about it, but I, I. The song 12 Days of Christmas came on and I thought, is that. What do you mean, the 12? Like, there's Christmas Day. Is this a real thing? So I start looking into it. It's like, yeah, it starts December 25th and then goes for 12 days.

[D]

That's how my grandma is. She follows that. She's like, my decorations aren't coming down till after January.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Mine arguably stay up through Valentine's Day.

[B]

As far as I'm concerned. Still Christmas right now.

[D]

We'll get to it.

[A]

I also just feel so much more, like, cozy and like, I love the decorations up. My house feels bare when I take them down.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I put that off as long as I can.

[D]

As long as I can get more decoration.

[A]

We should just do different types of decoration. We should get more now going into the new year, though, what are our, what are our New Year's resolutions? I have a couple, but I want to hear yalls.

[B]

You have any?

[C]

Yes. And I'm hesitant to say it. Say it because it's a two parter.

[A]

Okay. We got time. We do.

[C]

It started when I was a kid.

[A]

Let's just go back to. Let's just go back to the year 2000.

[C]

Close your eyes with me for a moment. Birds chirping I want to be. I want to be more. How do I want to say this? I want my word to be my word. I have a. And it's not that I am a liar. It's that I have a tendency to over commit. Over commit. Because I always operate with the best intentions. And even if it was like, you know, whether it's an inconvenience to myself, I'll just do it.

[A]

I'll just do it some more just like realistic intentions.

[C]

Right. But what it does is turn, you know, eventually into well, I'll just do it.

[B]

It's like, well.

[C]

And I hate that. So I hate literally my biggest thing I hate about myself one of them. So that's a big one. And I think to kick that off, how I'm gonna work this with my wife, I don't know. But I think to kick that off it's going to involve a four day singular excursion on the cheapest flight I can find to Japan. And I think I'm just gonna go there and I'm going to get a very small hotel and I'm going to live amongst the people, do everyday things, you know, go eat, go, go go sit with an old man for an afternoon and then I'm going to come home. And the level of commitment and locked in that I'm going to be, I think is going to. Is going to change the world.

[A]

I need to hear what.

[B]

If I also don't like something about myself? Can I join you?

[A]

I guess, I guess I'm confused.

[B]

Why.

[A]

Where does Japan come into this? Why does.

[C]

I've just.

[A]

I've been help anything I wanted to.

[C]

Go for for so long and what hat what originally I wanted to do was just go into the woods for like a week and just disassociate. That's probably more attainable and well currently I'm sure everybody's seen it. Currently it is cheaper to get a plane ticket, get a hotel, go to Japan and go to Tokyo Disney than it is to go to the Disney in Florida for a week.

[D]

Yeah, I've seen that.

[C]

Really very seriously. I have seen currently right now it's. That's the cheaper option.

[A]

That's insane.

[C]

It is insane. But it's just I've always wanted to go. I think it'd just be like a crazy. Just like a, just what an adventure. I mean you're really like you're bite like nobody, nobody knows you. And of course you could do that anywhere but like nobody knows you. You're such. And over there it's just such an inviting environment. Like I could, you could literally go sit with an old man and just like have a conversation, learn something, learn about his past.

[A]

Are you gonna learn Japanese prior to going?

[C]

I certainly not in the time frame that I would like to go. I know a little, but I could know a little. But anyway like not, you know, just, just some things. Like I certainly want to go. Like I want to do a family trip. I want to do it I would love to go with, like, my friends. I can't wait till we all go. For whatever reason that happens. Japan one day. I'm sure we will.

[A]

You're taking us to Japan.

[D]

But if you do go to Japan.

[B]

Merry Christmas.

[D]

If you do go to Japan, you should go. Go karting and dress up as Mario Kart characters.

[B]

I saw that. Who did that?

[D]

My aunt. But, like, she went to Japan and did that.

[B]

They had. They have, like. They have things like.

[C]

That's encouraged. Should be an answer. Enough.

[B]

Yeah, that's.

[C]

But anyway, that's. That's my New Year's res.

[B]

That would be crazy.

[A]

So your New Year's New Year's resolution is to have more realistic. More realistic intentions and commitments and to go to Japan.

[C]

Yeah, I think that's pretty good.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Before prices go up on flights. What's yours?

[B]

I hadn't given it too much thought yet.

[C]

That was this morning, actually, about 4:00am Okay.

[B]

I would like to go to Japan this year.

[C]

I actually sent that to you in a real.

[A]

What?

[C]

I just pissed.

[A]

I sent that to you this morning also. We should say, like, y' all are huge anime nerds.

[B]

Oh, yeah. I would like to go to Japan. And that's not my New Year's resolution. I think mine would be I have to take better care of my health.

[A]

So continue.

[B]

I had only from. I. I got to get back in the gym. I haven't been exercising, and I need. I think my biggest one is going to be I have to figure out how to become better at time management. Whether that be, you know, not wasting time when I have it or figuring out what tasks I can let control of. Go. Let go of control where it's like, I don't have to do everything because I try to do everything. And I think, well, if I pass it off, maybe something will mess up or maybe this will happen. And I know if I do it, I can get it done right and I run myself into the ground. I don't have any time to do anything or enough time to spend with family. So, like, time management is my goal of. I'm going to try to get that done.

[A]

As a business owner, that is a very hard necessity, though, to delegate and to. To let go of a little bit of control while still maintaining knowledge of what's going on. Because that is something I had a lot of issue with about. I mean, really I still have issue with, but, like, specifically over the last couple of years where things have blown up and, like, I truly can't have my hands on Everything. It was very hard for me to, like, like, no, okay. You are tasked with this now, and I'm not doing it. And I. It almost makes you feel like you're not.

[C]

Yeah, we had this conversation a couple days.

[A]

Or like, you're like, yeah, but it's like, no, You're. You're making sure it gets done. Like, there's just only so many hours in a day. And so, like, sometimes I feel. I'm like, wow. Like, I should just be able to do that, but realistically, like, no.

[C]

Or you could shower.

[A]

Huh?

[C]

I said. Or you could shower, for example.

[B]

And. And I just think about things like hobbies. Like, I love playing golf.

[C]

You enjoy.

[B]

I love playing golf. Haven't played in months because I'm just wearing myself down and just.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Trying to do everything like hobbies, family times, personal. Like, personal projects. All of that's out the window. And I've just been work, work, work, work, work, work. And I have to change that.

[A]

I also would like that to.

[C]

Nate and I are signing up.

[A]

So with that, I should. We're going on to clarify that I'm not your only client.

[B]

No, no, no, no, no.

[C]

We do other stuff, and that is, like, an. Often.

[A]

We need to clarify.

[C]

We don't live. We don't live in. We don't live, like, all in the loft of the barn or whatever.

[B]

We don't live here. We work with other people. We take on other projects, and we're actually.

[C]

We're in the same. We're recently discovering what. Relinquishing some of those responsibilities is feeling like and stuff.

[A]

So I also would like to focus more on hobbies in 2026, because I jazz, like, like, literally just writing. And, like, I wrote a little bit more this past year than I have in a while, but there are some things that I can't really talk about right now that are going to make it more possible for me to ride more unless I get KN up, which that's a real possibility as well. So we'll see. It's just gonna get all ruined by a kid.

[B]

You're talking about the new horse you bought.

[A]

Shut up. I did not.

[D]

You're funny.

[B]

Can we cut that out?

[A]

It's not. He's being.

[C]

I'm looking at the stink bug on the water.

[A]

He's. He's just. He's just.

[B]

I'm getting. I'm getting playing.

[A]

But, like, I want to show Denver, and I. If I'm gonna show Denver, I need to ride at home, and I need to, like, be serious about it and like ride every day. And like, I, you know, I feel like I have had a decent balance this year with like, y' all don't see, like, I'm not Snapchatting my family Christmas. I'm not Snapchatting my like, parties. Like, like my birthday party you don't barely see any of. So like, I do think that has been good. I haven't been just like, so focused on only content creation, but I would like to not necessarily do less content, but try to find ways of doing it to where I'm not editing until 9:00 o' clock at night or 10:00 clock at night.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And posting literally through 10:00 clock at night. Like, I just, I think I'd like to try to find a way to be like done at 6 or 7. I don't know if that's gonna happen, but that's my. I, I would like for that.

[C]

AI Katie, baby. The new era.

[A]

I'd like for that to happen. And then in a content creation space. I do have lots of goals and we've talked about them a bit and I, I can't really talk about them on here because like there's, you know.

[B]

We'Re just, yeah, we're just cooking.

[A]

But on like tick tock, I would like to, I think I overthink a lot of the times and then something doesn't get posted about an animal because I couldn't make a whole three minute saga out of it or I couldn't make this like edited thing out of it. And, and sometimes I think simplicity is better and so I need to just stop trying to overthink everything and, and just, you know, it's okay to just post like a, a cute video with a song over it sometimes and it doesn't have to always be like thought about and put together and you know.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

That. And then also on the health side, not so much focusing on weight or anything like that, but I would like to go to the gym like twice a week.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And just go to the gym. Like it's okay if I don't go all out and it's okay if I'm not like, yeah, you know, doing like Monday is back day, Tuesday is leg day, Wednesday is like, we don't have to do that. Yeah, we just need to go, just go move and for mobility and you.

[B]

Know, I mean when I'm stretching and when I'm active and in the gym, I, I just feel so much better.

[C]

It's crazy to think like, man, why'd I even stop?

[B]

And I Hate it every time because I go back and I'm like, oh, back to my starter weights and everybody's so strong around me and I'm like, you know, stronger than me.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But I think, I think that this time around though, it sucks because we're moving. And that's the other thing is that this was probably the worst Christmas I had. Just in the sense of like we never put up a Christmas tree. We never did anything like that because we're moving.

[A]

I'll just say that's a horrible timing.

[C]

So like there was no, no Christmas stuff. Um, but like I want to put like a pull up bar in my backyard and like stuff like that to like, I can like wake up.

[B]

Because a lot of, a lot.

[C]

Like the biggest part of the gym is going. Once you're there, you're there. Yeah, you go, you'll work out. I mean, 30 minutes, whatever, you're already there. The biggest thing is getting in the car and going.

[A]

Yeah. Which Jonathan, he was really good about going to the gym every day this past week or this past year. But like he wants to go right smack dab in the middle of me working. Like he doesn't want to wait on me or whatever. And so I'm going to try to convince him to like, hey, can we go in the morning or can we go at like 8 o' clock at night?

[C]

Like, Maddie's pretty dependent on like having a partner too. So I think having something at home would be, would be cool.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

Doing more traditional again. I'll still say it. I would love to have like a little sword dummy out there. Just go out there at 6am and.

[A]

Just with the morning, just have at it.

[C]

Just work on fluid motions. What about you, Lindsay? What are your resolutions?

[B]

What do you got? What are you resolved to do?

[D]

I, I am trying to teach myself more patience.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Patience.

[D]

Patience.

[A]

I don't see you in, okay. In the work setting, I don't really see your impatience.

[C]

That's that professionality.

[D]

It's more while I'm driving or.

[A]

You road rage.

[B]

Yeah, you road rage.

[A]

You road rage.

[C]

Really the, the side of Lindsay we don't see.

[D]

It's really bad.

[B]

Are you, are you a horn honker?

[A]

She doesn't. You know what? I have seen you road rage a bit when you're picking me up from the airport, but I also just, I, I chalk that up to airport.

[C]

You know what I'm saying? Like that brings it out.

[A]

Anybody?

[D]

I have a lot of road rage and so I'm trying to teach myself patience. Because of that, but also, like, while shopping, I. I tend to, like, get rid of my items and, like, just walk out if the line is super, super long.

[C]

Really, Like, I will really.

[D]

I am very impatient, like, which in.

[A]

That time, you probably waste more time because you went shopping, and then you don't get the things you need, so you have to go do it again.

[D]

So I'm really just.

[A]

I lose.

[D]

Lose there. So, yeah, for sure if I teach myself more.

[A]

Stand in line and scroll, baby. Get your. Get your Kindle app on your phone.

[C]

That's a cool. That's a. That's a cool fact. That's wild.

[D]

Yeah, I hate it. I really do, but I just can't. I can't.

[A]

Now I feel bad because there's been a couple times, like, hey, Lindsay, can you run to the store Now? I'm like, oh, no, no.

[D]

It's different for, like, work. I'm fine when it's, like, something that I have.

[A]

If you're like, I'm standing in line on the clock, I'm good.

[C]

I love moments like these when I could observ. Just how other human minds work. Because, like, it would never enter my mind. No to, like, and, like. And I. I am impatient about, like. Yeah, complete, like. Like, things that, like, you probably wouldn't even dream about. Like, I have the smallest amount of patience for. But putting my stuff back, like, in the grocery cart would be the last thing I would do.

[D]

Okay, so let me. Let me. Let me say this. If I have a lot of stuff in my grocery car, I don't just walk away from it. I will stand in the line. But if it's, like, one or two things. Yeah, I'm putting it back. I'm putting it back. I should have said that first. I don't just put my whole card away.

[C]

That would be wild.

[B]

You go back and you, like, spend 20 minutes restocking the shelves.

[C]

There's five people in line, 400 worth of groceries.

[B]

Oh, brother.

[C]

Or if she orders pickup and she's just waiting on the guy who's stalking, I was like, nah, not today.

[A]

Not today.

[C]

That's awesome. That's an awesome, awesome resolution.

[A]

So here's my thing. I. I would like to read more too, but I just cannot bring myself to read something that makes me smarter. I only read fantasy. So are you gonna read fantasy? Because I know we share that.

[C]

That does still make you smarter, though, and that is food for thought reading in general. Reading words on the page is good for your mind, which is why it's.

[A]

Like, I Read does not.

[C]

It works your mind in a way that a screen doesn't. And that's just scientific facts. Even. So, if you read 10 pages a day of anything, just 10 pages a day, your brain will be better off for it. And that's scientifically. Whatever it is. It doesn't have to be the scientific names of cows. It can be smut. Can be smut.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Brain stimulation.

[A]

Don't tell people I read smut.

[C]

Oh, we've had this conversation. It's probably been a thumbnail at this point.

[A]

Just bleep it. Bleep it.

[D]

I just bought the Thursday Murder Club.

[A]

Oh. So, like, little.

[D]

I do mysteries every now and then. I like to solve. It's this. So the way they set the book up is it's the first, like, the first little page is like, I've compiled all these emails, newspapers, blah, blah, blah, for you. Hopefully you can figure out who killed it. Killed the person, whatever. So it literally is just a book of emails.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

Newspaper clipping, stuff like that. And you pretty much have to, like, figure out who killed them.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

From that.

[A]

That's cool.

[D]

It's. It's a little complicated, but it kind of gets my, like, it gets my brain moving. What are you guys laughing?

[A]

What are they snickering about?

[B]

I'm so sorry. He looked at my screen and there's stuff all over my desktop.

[C]

And he is notorious for. For harping on how dirty.

[B]

And. I mean, I am a neat freak. Okay. For computer stuff. And let me just show you here.

[D]

Good Lord.

[B]

Yeah, it's a lot of stuff.

[A]

You should see mine. It's just scattered.

[B]

I made a. So I said I was trying to be funny and, like, solve the problem. So I went to make a folder and name it Organized, and I was just going to dump it all in there. So the desktop looks clean. And I named it Organized. And it said, there's already one name Organized. Because I've already done that once. Look.

[D]

Looks like you can't do it.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Literally already done this once. Yeah.

[C]

I have a lot of organize, organize later, December through January. Organize.

[B]

It's not important stuff.

[C]

But anyway, I think those are solid resolutions. I learned some things about Lindsay I didn't know. I would love to be in the car with you now because it's road rage. Bad enough that it's worth having a resolution over. Like, like you said, you sat here at the end of the year and you're like, something's gotta change.

[D]

I'm trying to think. My best friend hates me driving that she drives all the time now because she hates how I drive.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[C]

What it. What is your. What is your biggest pet peeve of other. Of like driving other drivers? Like if somebody does this, this is immediately about.

[A]

It's like them driving slow or like.

[D]

Yes, no blinker limits one of them. And then blinkers are one. Like if I'm on your. If like I'm behind you and you know that you have a turn coming up within the next 500ft. Put your blinker on.

[A]

Are you a tail rider?

[D]

If I have to. If you're not.

[A]

I can feel it. I can feel it.

[D]

I'm already getting heated.

[C]

I feel like I'm like sometimes especially if I'm by myself, I've like marshal the road. And like if. If I'm going what I feel like is an acceptable amount over the speed limit, then that's just the national amount. If you're going over me, you're going entirely too fast.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And if somebody like zips past me. Okay. All right. And now, now I had. It's on me to go teach them a lesson. Like that's the psychological. That's the psychological stuff that go on a 15 minute drive to the grocery store, dude. Like it's psychological war. So I get, I get that.

[A]

I feel like I. Tell me if I'm wrong. I feel like I'm honestly like too straight laced of a driver. Like I.

[C]

You're over cautious.

[A]

I'm very over cautious.

[C]

We'll be sitting there trying to cross the road to your house for 45 minutes.

[A]

No, we do not.

[C]

Like, wait, I can, I can hear one coming.

[A]

No, we do not. I don't know. I don't know if it's because like half the time I'm driving with a trailer. So I just like, when you're driving with a trailer, you have to just be okay with not like you have to be okay with people sitting behind you and you're waiting for your turn because like not just a trailer, but like a living animal in the trailer.

[C]

So wherever you park that thing and.

[A]

So it's like, I don't know if that just crosses over to when I drive my car too. And then I'm just. I go the speed limit and I, I don't turn out on people and I, you know, I don't know. I think I get. I think I annoy people with the fact that I just, I drive the speed limit or even under.

[D]

It doesn't help that her car whips, does it?

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Whenever you turn out.

[B]

She'S like. Yeah, it does. Yeah, it does. Not when you do it, but when I'm in there.

[C]

Yeah, you don't do it right.

[D]

Whenever you turn out, it goes.

[B]

Like.

[D]

I mean, I don't like put my, put the pedal to the metal, but yeah, she whips.

[C]

Honestly, like, mine does too, a little. It's a problem. It whips a little too quick.

[B]

Mine don't whip.

[D]

Don't whip.

[A]

The biggest fear ever of getting pulled over like it is on my brain. I see that the entire time I'm driving.

[C]

Yeah, I see that for sure. Have you been pulled over before?

[A]

I've been pulled over twice.

[C]

Did you cry?

[A]

No. So the first seemed like you would cry. I definitely learned my lesson because I used to be like a speed demon. And so my dad told me nothing good, good happens after midnight. You do not need to go to this boy's house.

[B]

Ain't Nothing out past 10 but sin. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

You do not need to go to this boy's house. You know, whatever. So I went to this boy's house at like 10 o' clock at night to go hang out, watch a movie. Came back at like 2am and I was like 19, 18, 19. And I had my little white Jeep. That Jeep started like shaking after 65, okay? Like, I should not have been good. I was going 70 on a 40 because it was 2:00am, it was a straight shot. It was 96. Like it. Or like the, you know, the road 90, the highway 96. And I, I was just going straight and not, you know, it was in summer, so it wasn't like it was deer. Like, you know, it wasn't like it was the rut where like deer are going crazy. I wasn't watching and I get pulled over. And that cop was so mean to me that I like was scared straight for a little while. And he was so mad at me and mean to me and rightfully so. Like, why Was I going 70 to 40 at 2am? Like it was stupid. But then so like I had to go to court, had to do all. It was super inconvenient, you know, how to go through driving school, like all the things. And so then I got pulled over again. When I was, I was in college, I was probably 19 or 20 again. But this one time I was going five over. Like it wasn't crazy. It was just late at night because I had been to like a sorority meeting and then I was house sitting. So I was driving back to the house that I was house sitting and I was the only one on the road. And it was in the middle of winter, and so the cop pulled me over, and he was like, it's just funny. He was being very sweet, but he was like, sweetheart, there's this thing called the rut going on so here, like, during that time, you know, deer running a lot, like. And mind you, like, I'm a hunter. Like, I know all this, but, like, I was like, oh, oh, my gosh, I'm so sorry. You know, just like I said, you.

[C]

Seem like you'd be a good person to cry to.

[A]

God, yeah, I didn't cry, but he let me out. Like, he.

[C]

I let you off the hook.

[A]

He let me off the hook on that one. He was like, I just want you to drive safer, you know? And so very nice guy on that one. I wasn't going 70 and a 40 on that one.

[C]

Right, you got that one for sure.

[A]

You were cooked, but, yeah. Okay, so to wrap this video up, Ms. Lindsay has some questions, because we are. How do you all feel about the fact that we are two days away from a safe date?

[C]

That's what my was. My question is, like, what's the. What is falling season looking like? Like, we. So we rolling.

[A]

Today is day 318 for Raven, so day 320 is her safe date. She's getting her full alert put in on Wednesday. So we're. We're cooking. Yeah, like, we're. You're. We're at the point where I could make the call this week and be like, time to.

[B]

I feel good about it.

[A]

Time to come in.

[B]

I feel. I feel ready to get it rolling.

[A]

I think we're good. We do still need to have our pow wow on. Like, how we're attacking.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

The foaling season sooner than later, but yeah, like, maybe on Wednesday. But we. Yeah, it's. We're ready. So. Lindsay has not experienced foaling season yet. She has not experienced breeding season yet. And there's a lot going on with that and there's a lot of you who haven't watched during this time. So you are going to speak for the masses of those who have not been here for some questions going into this.

[D]

All right.

[A]

What is followers? So I knew you're going to ask that. I keep. I kept telling her. I was like, you'll see on Wednesday. Just said it again.

[D]

Put it in.

[A]

Put one in. Honestly, you've seen a castle, like, so you're not going to be horrified or.

[D]

I mean, I've seen.

[A]

No, she's still going to be Horrified.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It gets, like. Because of all the lidocaine they put in and it gets all swollen. She's. So when we are thinking that they're within two weeks of foaling, there's this device that they sew into the vulva.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, yeah, buddy.

[A]

So they sew it. It's just two sutures. They numb them. They're numbed. It's just two sutURES. So it's not anything crazy. They sew it into the vulva and then when the feet poke out, when the baby's born, it. It. There's a magnet and it breaks the device apart. And then that sends a signal to the full alert, which calls my phone and tells me that she's having her baby. So if I fall asleep, which I try to stay up, but if I fall asleep, if we're at dinner, if it's in the middle of the day, like, you know, no one's watching, like, then we get called.

[D]

That's crazy.

[C]

You should see the phone call that. When that happens, it's. It's wild.

[D]

What is it? What do you mean?

[A]

Foal alert. Your mirror is foaling. It's coming. It's coming. Everybody coming. It's coming right now. Everybody get to the board. That is not how it goes.

[C]

It's the gummy bear song.

[A]

That is not how it goes. Oh, my.

[C]

Could you imagine waking up at 3am you're white.

[B]

You're white. Have you ever accidentally, like, flicked an ant hill? That's what happens when the phone rings.

[A]

Well, okay. Generally, if we're watching and, like, we know it's coming, we're pretty calm. Yeah, we are. You know, like, as we get farther into foaling season, it gets calmer and calmer and calmer. The first one, it's just excitement. Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

There's never a. Like a panic.

[A]

The first one was born without us knowing. Last year we woke up to a baby.

[B]

Noel the first.

[C]

Yeah. That was awesome. We don't do that very often, though.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

We had two awesome ones. That one. And a 8:00pm birthday.

[A]

Yeah. Ethel?

[C]

Yeah. It's tight. Don't expect that either.

[D]

Okay. Interesting.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

What do you do immediately after they fall? I know you do the iodine.

[A]

So, like the kind of systems of operation, we get down there, we try not to be too loud. We let her do her thing. We. Yes.

[C]

Can I say them?

[A]

Yeah. Go. You got it.

[C]

After the foal's born, we let the mother tend to the foal. We observe how that happens. We give it A time which. Up 30 minutes. Up to 30 minutes to watch the mother care for the foal. If it looks like the mother is suffering with a little bit of aftershock, perhaps from everything that just transpired in the birth, at that point, a professional like Katie would go in there with some blankets, warm blankets, and start roughing it up, scruffing it up, getting some blood flowing, drying it off. It's often very cold during foaling season. At that point in time, there would be a reintroduction to the mother constantly trying to enforce that. That connection to, hey, this is your baby. Love it. You know, mom just gave birth. I mean, she's. I just wanted to see if I could do it.

[B]

You keep going.

[A]

You keep going, keep going.

[C]

And then at that point, once everything's good with mommy and baby, we whip somebody's here. We will.

[A]

Get.

[C]

Dip the belly button with iodine.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

And then after that, we will sit there and watch for the fold to latch onto the mommy. And once you hear the suckling of milk and dripping of milk going down, once there is a for sure latching of milk, and we have established that that foal can feed itself at that point in time, we will let them carry.

[A]

You're missing one.

[C]

Wait. What is it?

[A]

Think about your own child. What do they need to do before we, like, like, what's one of the steps that we want to see that they can do? Oh.

[C]

Oh, yeah. And then you have to. They have to poop. You have to see if they pass their meconium. And then the placenta.

[A]

The placenta, too.

[C]

So, dummit, I was close.

[A]

If the mom passes her placenta quick, then I might give her some meds to help her relax. But if she hasn't passed it, then sometimes we have to give her oxytocin, which makes her contract. And then sometimes when those mares are contracting, they're, like, not super nice to their babies. And so then we kind of have to, like, help them out a little bit. But there's lots of, like, some mares. It's super easy and quick. And, like, honestly, one of the things that makes me the happiest is when I hear that placenta drop. And it's like, within an hour, I'm like. Like, some of the times that y' all left and I. I had to stay down there was. Because everything was done but the placenta drop.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And at that point, it's, like, no use in anyone being down here. Like, I just have to wait for it because it is a Like kind of an emergency situation if they retain it. But yeah. Okay, so iodine on the navl. We do that twice. We usually give an enema to ensure that they pass their meconium and all of it. We what?

[C]

I felt like I was really doing good.

[A]

You were good.

[B]

You were.

[A]

We make sure mama is like taking care of it. We make sure it eats, we make sure it stands. We make sure she passes her placenta. Yeah.

[D]

Why does foaling season start in January? Is that just because you start breeding later?

[A]

So within Aqha Apha Thoroughbreds, like almost all North American breed registries, January 1st is considered every horse in that registry's birthday. So regardless if they were born January 2nd or December 26th, they turn a year older as of January 1st to the registry. So when you're showing horses and they're in age groups, which they all are, you could have a baby in like, let's say the three year old maturities. The babies born in January are way more mature and ready than the babies born in June. They're six months older, but they're considered the same age. So we try to have our babies born as early as possible. Now, breeding season is. Is hard. And so sometimes mayors don't take the first time, or sometimes they go super long with their baby and then have it. And then you have to wait a period of time before you can rebreed. So generally speaking, we try to keep our foaling season between January and March. Sometimes it sneaks into April. We had a horrible breeding season last year, so that's why we have a bunch of April babies. Cause it just took forever. But if that baby, like Noel last year, if that baby is born December 26, like she was in four days, she is considered a yearling. And therefore she is at an incredible disadvantage until she's about five or six years old, when it all evens out. So, yeah, we do not want pre January 1st babies. But then we love January babies because then that's just. They're that much more mature for that year. Okay.

[D]

Yeah, I did not know that. Yeah, that makes a little more sense.

[A]

Yeah. Like if Raven had her baby right now, I would go into a comatose state. I would go into a spiral. Yeah, honestly, she would just go, yeah, I would just. Yeah, I would just pass out.

[D]

Honestly, why do you use lights, like whenever you like, whenever you're like, we're out in the barn or whatever, you're like, make sure they have lights.

[A]

So the mayors that aren't pregnant that we're trying to breed so early in the year to get January and February babies. It's earlier in the year than what naturally they would be, like, primed up for breeding. They are usually. That's like summer. The longer the days, the hotter the weather, the. You know, the longer they're under sunlight, it tells them that their body should be cycling better. So we mimic a summer day by putting them under 16 hours of light. So their lights go off at like 11pm and that generally allows for their body to continue cycling and ovulating and building mature follicles in a time period where they normally wouldn't so that we can breed them earlier in the season. Okay. Yeah. Huh. Yeah.

[D]

I've wondered that for a little bit and just never asked.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Whenever a baby.

[A]

A full. Not a baby, we joke. We. We call them baby horses. Yeah, they're a full baby horse.

[B]

Full.

[D]

How much do they typically weigh when they come out?

[A]

Like, standard is kind of like 10% of mama. So. So my mares are like, you know, I would say average is like a thousand pounds. So I would say they're around £100. And they come out. Sheesh. They don't look that big, though.

[C]

No, they don't.

[A]

They don't look that big. And like. So, like, we have a mini baby due soon too. And so we, like, coco. Her day. 300 is like Friday. And so we're very close to having a mini baby too. And she, like. I would say. I can't remember. Do you remember how big Squirt and George and Jack were? Were they all like £20?

[B]

20, £25.

[A]

Yeah. Like. I mean, little, like. Oh, no. You were with Jack. You were with Jack.

[D]

Jack with the key.

[A]

Yeah, he was like £20.

[D]

Him with cutie Man.

[A]

Yeah. So we have another one of those. But it'll be like. I honestly love when they're bored. When it's cold, we put little blankets on them and like, we play with them in the barn a lot because it's cold. So they stay up and we, like. We'll, like, close the doors and let them just, like, run around. I kind of want to bring one into the shop and, like, hang out with it. Yeah, we should do that.

[B]

Have a shop horse.

[A]

Honestly, with this next one because it's gonna be cold. I think Karen would come hang out in the shop.

[C]

Can't wait to lift that tail up and just opens the floodgates.

[A]

It's. We can do it. We have lvt.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

We can do it.

[B]

Swift cleanup.

[C]

Just imagine there's One thing. A little puppy.

[A]

Okay, well, we're gonna do that. We're gonna bring Karen and. Okay. Not Karen, but Coco. So when Karen has her baby, if it's a boy, one of my mom's, like, best friends, and, like, I grew up with her son. We were only six months apart. His name is Kip. If Karen has a boy, I want to name it Kip.

[B]

That's cute.

[A]

Yeah. If Coco. Her names are kind of set in stone. She has a girl. Chanel.

[B]

Yeah, that makes sense.

[A]

Coco, Chanel. And then if she has a boy. Glenn.

[B]

Glen, Coco.

[A]

Glen, Coco. So it's kind of set in stone what her names will be.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Anyway, I feel like we've been talking for a while.

[C]

We have. It's been an hour and a half.

[D]

I have one more question.

[C]

That was a lie.

[A]

One more question. All right, last question of the whole thing.

[D]

Okay, so whenever horses are in labor, when. When and if, do you intervene?

[A]

Generally speaking. So, like, and I've talked to vets about this. Not just my vet, multiple vets about this. So, like, there's. There's lots of schools of thought, and a lot of people. Like, there's some people that their mayors fall out in the field, like a herd, totally fine. We have our mayors up so that if something goes wrong, we can intervene. Because I've seen where, like, had someone not been there, Marin baby would have died, you know? And so generally speaking, we're. We watch pretty much every birth. Like, so, for instance, this last year, Ethel didn't need help. Everything was fine. Everything was lined up perfect. Every time she was pushing, she was making progress. The sack didn't break until after. Like, it was already, you know, partially out, and it was within a time frame. So no one went in and intervened. It was all good. Now, there are some times where they are in a bad position. So, like, let's say, like, I remember PD a couple years ago, his head was, like, underneath his leg, and it was like. Like, we had to go in and kind of, like, re. Kind of configure it. And then after that, he could come out streamlined. So sometimes there's, like, a bad presentation. You could call it. Yeah. Where you might need to go, like, reconfigure or, like, if a leg is hung back, like, go bring it back up. Things like that. They're gonna come out kind of a little staggered and in, like, superman position. That's normal. So you don't want their legs back here with their feet, you know, head. You want them out front, and they're gonna be a little off centered. But if it's like one leg's out here and then the other one's back here, you bring it up. Things like that. You don't want breach, which is like backwards. You don't want upside down. That's bad too. So bad. Presentation could warrant help. And then also if like, here's my philosophy on it. If they are working really hard, like maybe they have an okay presentation but they're working really hard, not making good progress, like they might be able to get it done and then they're just gonna be so worn out by the end of it. I'd rather go hold pressure, not pull, hold pressure. To allow them to maintain their progress.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

So that when they have had their baby, they're not like so worn out that they can't take care of it. I'd rather that mom have the energy to lick her baby and take care of it and like, you know, all that rather than her being so worn out. Because I've had that where they've been just so worn out that like I end up doing everything and baby is up walking around and stuff by the time mom even gets up because she's just like laid there so tired. So I think there's a balance to it. I think when you know your horses super well and like they are comfortable with you again, not pulling and not like forcing a quick birth or anything like that. But like, you know, if you see that she's not making progress and like it's just taking her a long time, like just like holding. So that. Cuz sometimes you'll see this. They'll push and then it'll pull. It goes, retracts back in. So it's like that's, that's good for a little bit. That actually preps the cervix. So that's needed at first because that's what prevents tearing. That's what like, like it gets that baby awake. When it's like the pressure around it, you want them to have enough pressure for a long enough period of time. So you don't want to do it right away. But if it's just taking like over 30 minutes and especially when the sack breaks, you do have kind of like a timeline after that. Because then like you don't want them inhaling any of the fluid, you don't want them aspirating, you don't want them suffocating, like, you know. So anyway, cool.

[D]

Thank you.

[A]

Yeah. Well, hope you enjoyed today's episode. The last episode of 2025 again. We are doing a 2025 recap, so stay tuned for that video as well. And I just hope you'll all have an amazing New Year's and we will see you next year.