Be The Hero In Your Own Life w/ Kellie Bowman

Summary

Podcast Summary: Keep it Positive, Sweetie — "Be The Hero In Your Own Life w/ Kellie Bowman"

Host: Crystal Renee Hayslett
Guest: Kellie Bowman ("Nurse Kelly")
Producer: The Black Effect & iHeartPodcasts
Date: August 10, 2025

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Episode Overview

This heartfelt episode brings on Kellie Bowman, daughter of the iconic Dr. Sebi and founder of Sabi’s Daughters, to discuss holistic wellness rooted in ancestral wisdom, the importance of being proactive about health—especially for Black women—and how diet and self-knowledge intertwine for healing. Through candid, uplifting dialogue, the conversation explores Kellie’s upbringing, the legacy she's fostering, practical steps to reclaiming health, women's wellness, and her approach to natural products. With transparency, humor, and vulnerability, the episode is a roadmap for participating in your own rescue: being the hero in your own life.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Dr. Sebi’s Legacy and Kellie’s Upbringing

• [03:07] Kellie reflects on her unique childhood in Compton, learning lessons directly in her father’s garden as her “first classroom... first masterclass.”
• Her father, Dr. Sebi (Alfredo Bowman), was radically honest, connected to nature, and committed to teaching through presence and lived experience.
• Quote: “I don’t know what it’s like to feel any emotion without nature attached to it.” — Kellie [03:22]
• She witnessed her father’s health struggles—diabetes, hypertension, impotency—and his journey to healing which became foundational for the Bowman family’s diet and values.

Building Sabi’s Daughters and Personal Identity

• Kellie founded Sabie’s Daughters to honor her father’s legacy, blending ancestral wisdom with her perspective as a woman.
• Quote: “He made vegetables more than just something to put on the plate… it became my medicine, my healer.” — Kellie [07:13]
• She speaks about making health part of her DNA and ministry, seeking always to represent her family’s values in the products and advice she gives.
• Emphasis on shaping young people to see their future in the everyday conversation and nourishment they receive.

Women’s Health, Menstruation, and Hormone Balance

• [08:27] Kellie shares how Dr. Sebi, though from Honduras and unconventional, was the first person she told about getting her period. He immediately brought her to the kitchen for herbs (red raspberry, etc.) to manage hormones.
• She advocates open dialogue about feminine health, early preparation, and normalizing conversation about cramps, fibroids, and endometriosis.
• Quote: “Every time I had a question, it was a walk and an herb… and some good information.” — Kellie [09:30]

Food as Medicine: Childhood Diet & Plant-Based Wisdom

• The family fridge mirrored the garden: “Zucchini, squash, everything grown, and maybe a couple extras like juice.”
• [13:34] “Be the hero in your own life, participate in your own rescue.” — Kellie’s guiding principle from her father’s journey.
• Top 5 “Celebrities of the Garden”: Okra, zucchini, avocado, tomato, mushrooms.
  • Mushrooms: She refutes anti-fungal arguments—“That’s not his [the critic’s] consciousness… what I try in nature is up to me.” [15:00]

Alkaline Plant-Based vs. Standard Vegan Diet

• “Alkaline means eating Indigenous, seeded foods God made—where disease can’t live. Vegan isn’t always healthy.” [16:14]
• Many vegan foods are processed and can still contribute to diabetes and disease.
• Quote: “The biggest relationship we fail on is our relationship with our food and ourselves.” — Kellie [17:34]
• Recommends knowing yourself: keep a journal, track your cycle, and observe how food affects mood/cravings.

Practical Tips for Transitioning Health Habits

• Don’t attempt drastic dietary changes overnight—meet people where they are, identify emotional triggers, and replace habits gradually.
• “It’s not about taking away; it’s about subtraction and addition. Replace candy with berries—nature’s candy.” [19:03]
• Encourages self-discovery: “The book of you is what matters.” [18:52]
• Track what makes you well during your cycle; have a personal playbook for managing symptoms with ginger, red raspberry, water, etc.

Navigating Modern Food Challenges

• Food security and food deserts: Support local farmers, learn to garden (even small), and utilize tools like the Yuca app for food sourcing. [22:12]
• Advocate for reading vegetable barcodes and being proactive as food and seed quality changes due to regulation, vaccines in food, and processed ingredients.
• Quote: “There’s a war on food… it makes no sense for you not to take a proactive effort in your own health.” — Kellie [22:57]

Proactive vs. Reactive Healthcare

• Only going to the doctor when something is wrong is living reactively. Be proactive about learning your body and habits.
• “When I go to the doctor, I’m checking in on what I’ve done.” [24:15]

Women's Health: Perimenopause, Menopause, Fertility, and Mood

• For perimenopause/menopause: first remove processed sugar, salt, carbs, alcohol, fried foods—“Notice I didn’t say meat first.” [30:04]
• Herbs for hormonal balance: chickpeas, burdock, valerian root, papaya, red raspberry; activity/movement is critical.
• Emotional balance and calm (“womb health”) must come first before any supplement; being in supportive, loving environments impacts fertility.
  • Quote: “How do we get you calm? I never go with herbs and stuff first. What makes you calm?” [32:47]
• Elevated cortisol/A1C block fertility and increase inflammation.

Disease, Acidity, and the Power of Alkaline Foods

• Disease thrives in acidic environments: focus on pH-balanced, seeded fruits/vegetables.
  • Examples: seeded watermelon (from Georgia-Florida line), limes (alkaline vs. lemons, which are acidic), and less-sugary foods. [37:30–39:00]
• Sugar as a destructive force: breaks down enamel, feeds cancer, in virtually all processed products. [40:00–40:41]
• Mental health is interconnected with ultra-processed foods; COVID exacerbated poor diet and mental health. [41:23]

Fasting as a Healing Modality

• Three-day “reset” fast is Kellie’s favorite: gradually reducing from solids to semi-solids to liquids, ending with water. [44:50]
  • “We are the sum of our experiences. Your brain needs you to go from one state to another with some ease. Love yourself enough to say, I’m going to get in this journey in a way you understand.” [46:02]
• Advocates community fasting for deeper creative connection and as a form of spiritual and bodily reset.

Sourcing Ingredients & Product Creation

• Kellie sources 90% of her products from Honduras; also uses Saint Lucia.
• Everything is intentionally and prayerfully made, inspired by her family’s traditions and personal healing journey (e.g., rose shea butter takes 5+ weeks, uses organic rose petals, sound baths, and prayer over every batch). [52:13–54:00]
• Usha Village in Honduras: family still operates this original healing center, open for visitors, where volcanic alkaline water runs through the village.[55:09]

Legacy, Impact, and Living Authentically

• The episode closes with gratitude, Kellie’s mission for “impact”—to be a resource of love, knowledge, humility, and progression for others; to heal the healer in everyone.
• Quote: “We are all healing, and we are also healers… that’s the impact I want to make.” [59:26]

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Memorable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• "I don’t know what it’s like to feel emotion without nature attached to it." — Kellie, [03:22]
• "Be the hero in your own life. Participate in your own rescue." — Kellie, [13:34]
• "You don’t want to end up with me in the ER. You don’t want a nurse to keep injecting you with stuff because you didn’t get it right." — Kellie, [23:49]
• "The book of you is what matters." — Kellie, [18:52]
• "We are the sum of our experiences, whether it’s trauma or joy." — Kellie, [46:02]
• "Your health is not a luxury. It’s your foundation. And you deserve to thrive." — Crystal, [66:49]
• "Healing the healer is my biggest thing… If I had to pray for something, that’s it." — Kellie, [59:26]
• "Processed foods are distractions…Once you take that away, who really are you?" — Kellie, [48:03]
• "You can’t buy character in a bottle. You can’t shoot it in your arm. Character is built, and you build it through your diet and knowing yourself." — Kellie, [37:04]
• "Who are you without the internet? … If I’m not a better Kelly today than yesterday, then I’m wasting time." — Kellie, [51:32]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Segment | Time | |----------------------------------------------------|-------------| | Introduction to Kellie & Dr. Sebi’s legacy | 00:00–04:20 | | Kellie’s childhood, learning in nature | 03:07–07:42 | | Launching Sabi’s Daughters, identity, women’s health| 07:42–10:41 | | Food/diet: Growing up, “celebrities of the garden” | 11:24–17:34 | | Alkaline diet vs. vegan; practical transition tips | 15:49–20:09 | | Modern food challenges & being proactive | 22:06–24:42 | | Proactive vs. reactive care, kitchen table talks | 24:00–27:39 | | Perimenopause, Menopause, and hormone regulation | 28:29–33:49 | | Womb health, mood, environment, and fertility | 32:19–34:01 | | Fasting as healing/reset | 44:35–48:03 | | Personal journey, product sourcing, legacy | 52:04–57:08 | | Closing: Impact, self-care, using Sabi’s Daughters | 58:32–66:49 |

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Tone, Style, and Takeaway

The episode is imbued with warmth, assurance, “sister talk” humor, direct (but loving) truth-telling, and a heavy emphasis on self-kindness. Both Crystal and Kellie lean into radically honest conversation, practical anecdotes, and actionable wisdom—balancing deep experience with relatable advice.

Actionable takeaway:

• Know yourself and your relationship with food. Small, mindful changes compound into a new reality.
• Be proactive; participate in your healing and rescue.
• Seek support and knowledge for women’s health issues, from hormone changes to fertility.
• Use food as medicine—prioritize whole, alkaline, seeded, and local foods.

Final Message:
"Our health is our birthright—the goal is to thrive, not just survive." (Paraphrasing Crystal [66:49])

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For Listeners Who Haven’t Tuned In

If you want inspiration to reclaim agency over your health, to understand wellness through a cultural and ancestral lens, or simply crave a relatable and healing conversation about the journey back to self, this episode fills your cup and your toolkit. Kellie Bowman’s lived experience, practical tips, and spirit-centered encouragement provide a powerful call to be the hero in your own life.

Transcript

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Calling all my sweeties to the forefront, I'm your host, Chris Renee Hazel, and this is the Keep It Positive Sweetie Show. Sweeties. Today's guest is someone whose impact isn't just felt. It's tasted, it's lived, and it's healing folks from the inside out. I'm talking about the incredible Kelly Bowman, founder of Sabie's Daughters, who is carrying on the powerful legacy of her father, the legendary Dr. Sebi. And she's doing it with grace, intention, and real results. Her mission is to help us eat, to live, to cleanse, to nourish our bodies at the cellular level, and to remind us that health isn't just a goal, it's our birthright. And listen, this isn't just hype, guys. I've used her products. I love them, and I'm telling you right now, they work. So if you're ready to feel good, think clear, and glow from within. Keep listening because. Because Kelly is about to pour into us in a way that only she can. Please give a warm welcome to Kelly Bowman. Kelly, AKA Nurse Kelly. How are you feeling?

[Kelly Bowman]

I'm good.

[Monica Brown]

Good.

[Kelly Bowman]

I'm good. How are you?

[Chris Renee Hazel]

I'm great. I'm so good. I'm so excited about our episode. I met you through Monica Brown. We were at a game one night, and she was talking about. She's like my nurse, Nurse Kelly. She takes care of me. I never get sick. Let me give you your information. Cause we were talking about how my sinuses kept bothering me and living in Georgia. And she was like, you need to meet. Nurse Kelly. Had no idea who you were or who your father was at the time. Monica just said, nurse Kelly. And I said, all right, give me her number. And we text, and I met you, and you came to my house and sat at my kitchen table. And in that moment, I said, we need her on the podcast.

[Kelly Bowman]

Wow.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Just the conversation and how I was able to digest it. And then you gave me what I needed to implement it into my daily life. I was like, people need to know this. They need to hear about it, and they need to put it into their daily lives. So I'm so excited to have you here today because I know it's gonna be a good sister sister conversation, but also very informative.

[Monica Brown]

Yes.

[Kelly Bowman]

When two ladies get together, I think it's the most positive and most wonderful thing. If both of our goals is to share good stuff with each other and for others, I always feel like I don't miss a good girl moment. I don't know how many more I Got so I don't waste no time. I love that.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

I love it. She's comfortable, y'.

[Kelly Bowman]

All.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

So we about to really get into it. I'm excited. I love this. A lot of people don't know that you are the daughter, one of the daughters to Dr. Sabie, and you have created a brand, Sabi's Daughters. And it's just taken off. It's taken off. And I want to talk to you about your upbringing. And for people who don't know the impact that your father had to really bring this all full circle. Like, you learn so much, and you're carrying on his legacy every single day. What was it like growing up as young Kelly, whose father was creating all these innovative products that we hadn't. That the earth gave us, that we didn't even know? Because the Western world medicine, we're taking what they tell us to take. What was it like growing up in that home at that age?

[Kelly Bowman]

You know, I've been asked that a lot, quite a few times in different ways, and I love the question, and it makes me reflect. So thank you for that question.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

I could feel it in the way you were taking it in.

[Kelly Bowman]

I want to take it in. I want to, you know, because it's a real moment. And when I go back to young Kelly, and I remember when I would. And it was in Compton, my mother and father met some. However, my earliest memories of me sitting with my father was in the garden. That was my first classroom. That was my first masterclass. I don't know what it's like to feel joy or to feel any emotion without nature attached to it. I didn't have that luxury of going to Disneyland and learning about Cinderella in all of her fantasy worlds. I was introduced to a man who was totally factual about life, and he didn't want to waste a moment with me. And I appreciated it. But I also had a sick father. You know, he had quite a few of the illnesses that he talked about early on, if, you know, if you catch his videos out there. But to live with him and watch is a whole masterclass. I don't even know how to tell you. I don't know any different. And I'm grateful because if it prepared me for this moment, then I'm more than grateful to God.

[Monica Brown]

Yes.

[Kelly Bowman]

You know, there's points in my life when you say, oh, I wish I didn't have the parents that I got.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

I wish.

[Kelly Bowman]

I wish. But now I'm grown enough to know. I'm grateful.

[Monica Brown]

Yes.

[Kelly Bowman]

Yeah.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

And it's beautiful how you are carrying his legacy and how you built a brand that is helping us as a people. It's. I'm telling you, when I sat down and talked to you now, and I can be open like I was asking you about, because I got diagnosed as borderline diabetic, and my doctor was like, you got to get a handle on this. And I was like, kelly, what do I need to do? How can I get a hold of this? And you were telling me different things I need to do for even premenopause and preparing for myself to make sure that I'm ready for these things. And in that moment, I was like, goodness, everything she's doing is to really help us just be better people, you know, And I love that about you. How did your father's legacy and everything that you learned from him shape who you are today? To. For you to even say, I want to build a brand that really helps people continue to carry this storage man.

[Kelly Bowman]

I think I was groomed, but I think it was just life experiences. He didn't sit down and. And have those talks like most father daughters, I think at some point do. But it was just so. It was a lifelong lesson for me. It never stopped. You know, I kept a diary, really, But I think my dad was the first one I told. I had a period because we were so deep in our conversations. I look just like him. You do. And it's kind of. You know, I grew up to like it now, but when I was young, it wasn't so popular. But, you know, accepting me is who I am and what I am and where I come from. And I've always thought it to be a great thing that I could talk to him and have those conversations. And it was a constant shaping. And I think if we ever have the opportunity as people to shape young people in the way that feeds them into their growth, into the future, always see their future in the conversation. And if I had to say how Sadie's daughters came along was because I've always been Savie's daughter. I've always been Alfredo Bowman's daughter. I've always wanted to be a good representation of my parents. They do all they can to, you know, prepare us in the way that they think will shape us. But how I brought it into my own. He made the vegetables become more than just something I need to put on my plate and become real. Is just my experience with eating. It became my life's journey. It became a ministry. So when I would know my favorite, talk about it a lot. But I still want to talk about okra. Okra was my first celebrity of the garden that I fell in love.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

I love that.

[Kelly Bowman]

That was my first celebrity I was introduced to way before anything else. But I learned the truth about okra. I learned that where it came from in Africa. I learned about how it controls A1C, your sugar, before they even had a name of A1C. It came from, you know, Africa, and it empowered our body to do something that it couldn't, nothing else could, in a chemical ever accomplish. But I think God did well. And so, you know, when I look at how it became my truth, it wasn't just a vegetable I ate. It became my. My medicine. It became my healer. It became such a huge part. I don't know how to separate it at 53.

[Monica Brown]

Wow. Yeah.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

I mean, it's like it's in your DNA.

[Kelly Bowman]

So saving daughters came from trying to understand or help my father understand my position as a woman, as a woman. That came from him. And I would love to say that I'm doing the best I can to represent what I took it to be. What my brothers and sisters took it to be is something else. But what Kelly took it to be. The personal walks we had about my.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Cramps, I wanted to ask you about that being. Your dad was the first person that you told about your period. Usually it's the mom that you're like, mom, what's happening? What are some things? Because I know even as we get older, like fibroids, endometriosis, things that cause our cramps to be heightened. What are some things that your father told you? Hey, this is what you need to do.

[Kelly Bowman]

Well, that's an interesting conversation, because, again, he's not American, so it's. It's not quite like an American household. So it was Poppy. I got. He's like, oh, you got your period? So it was like, I didn't. He said it. I was like, yeah, that. Okay. So we went to the kitchen. So he pulled out some herbs out of the kitchen. Red raspberry was one of them. Some of the foods that, you know, I normally eat. He was like, well, here, I want you to think about this instead of this one instead, you know, and so the shaping of my hormone levels start there. He's like, yeah, you're gonna be a little crazy. You're gonna feel a little crazy. You're gonna think a little crazy. But how you do, how you're gonna get through it is fasting. You're gonna have to fast your way through a lot of things. And he says, you're gonna find that your emotions gonna change. And from that, it helped me to understand that it was okay to feel the things I had, but it was not okay to stay there. So I think that was an important thing, was learning how to fast and what that meant to Kelly. Learning how and when my period was coming about and preparing for it on the front end.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

Because who needs to catch it on the back end? We need to know what to do. So every time I had a question, it was a walk and an herb. It was a walk and some good information. It was some tea. It was. And I like that. Now, mom, of course, she's the one that got the actual materials and the things, but my dad was that it was okay to be me.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

It was literally okay to talk about those things. And I don't have a world where it's not okay to. I don't have to hide. So if that's one of the lessons I learned from. From him early on was I can be me.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

And I can say what my problems are, because a lot of women with fibroids and things of this nature have trouble talking about it, even with their doctors.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

A lot of women don't realize that you can go to a doctor's office and not sit on that table, which causes a lot of anxiety. You can go into their doctor's office and sit there and talk to them. Costs about the same. Yeah.

[Monica Brown]

Wow.

[Kelly Bowman]

Yeah.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

That's crazy.

[Kelly Bowman]

Yeah. Because you need to talk to somebody who you're going to give your life to, whether it be. Yeah. Whether it be the man in your life or the doctor or even the person giving you your food at a fast food place or whoever you're trusting. Your life is important. It is. And I wanted to know that you knew me.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

So I think me talking to him was for him to see. Every step of how Kelly grew up. You know, he knew me as a child, of course. And as I grew up, I had different questions.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

And they were answered in different ways because as you get older, you process in a different way. And I'm grateful he was patient, but it was his diet that made him patient. I don't know who Alfredo Bowman would have been if he didn't take the journey first.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Right.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

I don't think he would have been as patient.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Speaking of the diet, and you talked about him taking you to the kitchen. I want to know what does your refrigerator look like growing up? And did you guys get to go to McDonald's? Did you have a French Fry. Or was it, like, forbidden?

[Kelly Bowman]

Like it was forbidden. But don't think, you know, we are children curious.

[Monica Brown]

Yes.

[Kelly Bowman]

We have neighbors with food that we didn't have.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Right.

[Kelly Bowman]

So that was. That was interesting. But it paid you back. And he knew when you did because funny enough, that when we were in the garden, where do you think he got. When we were infants? You know, there's soil that you have to make, but where did you think he fueled the soil with? Well, if you have a child that's vegan. There you go.

[Monica Brown]

Yes.

[Kelly Bowman]

So if your children are vegan and they're eating nothing but what you feed them, how you know the byproduct is still good enough for the garden?

[Monica Brown]

Wow.

[Kelly Bowman]

A lot of people don't realize you.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Use cow manure for the garden, so.

[Monica Brown]

Why not use it?

[Chris Renee Hazel]

I never thought about that.

[Kelly Bowman]

But your dye got to be pure. So what he adopted in the house, you know, we were his first. You know, before There was a Dr. Sebi, there was Alfredo Bowman, who was sick, wanting to be well, got well and made his children well, made his family well, and then he took it to the community.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

What was your father sick with?

[Kelly Bowman]

Well, he had diabetes. He had hypertension. He had impotency. Yeah, he talks about it. But getting back to your question, you asked what was in the refrigerator. So everything that was in the garden. So I love zucchini. I love squash. I love. So it was everything that was grown out there and maybe a couple of extras like juice. Like back in California that far back, we didn't have Whole foods. We had Mrs. Gooch's. And that was. That was one of the first. And I think they came out in 1970s, but that co op store was so dope. I didn't know much more. But it had such natural things that, you know, you had your juicing people over in one corner, you had all your grains in the other corner. I grew up knowing quinoa before it was popular.

[Monica Brown]

Wow.

[Kelly Bowman]

Right? Yeah. I knew how to say it before people just started saying about 10 years ago, literally, it's like, yeah, that's one of my ancient celebrities of the garden.

[Monica Brown]

Wow.

[Kelly Bowman]

Yeah. That's an og.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

So it's just like, I appreciate that that world was introduced to him first because I don't think he would have pulled out all. And who we know him to be, because I don't really think it's the herbs he had. I think it's the journey.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

It was the hero in his own life. So that's what it teaches me to Be the hero in my own life, to be a part of my rescue. So if you ever want to help yourself, please pay attention to your rescue. Participate in your own rescue. That's the thing, you know, the biggest thing I got from him.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

And so as I live my life, I don't live it scared. I live it fully balanced. Plant balanced. And it helps me to think better.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

So I can share better.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

Yeah.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

What are some of the. You have. You call it celebrities of the garden. What is your, like, top five? Celebrities of the garden top five.

[Kelly Bowman]

You ready for that? All right. Okra is number one. Zucchinis number two, Avocados number three.

[Monica Brown]

Okay.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

I had it today.

[Kelly Bowman]

Tomatoes number four, and mushrooms number five.

[Monica Brown]

Wow.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Okay. So I just saw on Instagram some guy saying, you shouldn't eat mushrooms. It's a fungus.

[Kelly Bowman]

Yeah.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

What is your take on that?

[Kelly Bowman]

I'm gonna eat em. I'm gonna eat. I'm gonna eat em.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

I love mushrooms.

[Kelly Bowman]

Yeah. I'm gonna eat em. I get it.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

And I get, for him, that's not his consciousness. And this is why I say, you know, some people can't have mushrooms. And your body tells you that that's not something that you want to do. But here's what I like about my life, is that it's mine. And what I try in nature is up to me. It was here before I got here, and I want to see. I'm that kid who was curious. Sabie's daughter's products is my curiosity about how he walked with me and what I found to be my one with nature, my one with God. I wanted to introduce myself more to, you know, as I get older, to what makes me happy. So I love mushrooms. They are. Listen, I can put them. I can have them by themselves. I can have them on top of a salad. Make it a warm salad. I will, man, it's just endless.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Wes has mushroom coffee.

[Kelly Bowman]

I like mushroom coffee. Is it good?

[Chris Renee Hazel]

I don't drink coffee. But he drinks mushroom coffee.

[Kelly Bowman]

I like it. It's pretty dope. Now, I don't do shiitake because again, when we talk about an alkaline D, there are some that are good and some that are better for you. So you just got to know that kind of measurement to know where you're going with your food.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

So that's. That's. I wanted to ask you about that, too. An alkaline plant based diet, because I was plant based at one point.

[Kelly Bowman]

True.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

But alkaline plant based is totally different. Tell me the difference between me Being like, oh, I'm vegan and I'm eating beyond meat burgers and just egg. And I'm, you know, all these.

[Kelly Bowman]

Right, right.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

What is the difference between plant based and the way most people think it is? And an alkaline plant based diet.

[Kelly Bowman]

Alkaline, you're going to find, with seeds, you're going to find. These are the indigenous foods that we're here that God made. So it carries the highest level of nutritional value. And that's, you know, I have it on my website. But that's the holy grail of cellular growth. That's the time when you sit back and ask yourself, what do I eat when I want to feel better? That alkaline diet is where you go, okay, now when you want to feel not better, but basic, you're going lower on that totem pole. And so then you find those other things that people call vegan. You know, a lot of people don't realize you can be diabetic and be vegan.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Oh, I've heard, yes.

[Kelly Bowman]

And I don't think a lot of people think that's the situation because we think it's all created equal. No, no. So alkalinity means that you are pushing your body up to a state of no acid, which disease can't live. So the food list is designed. Yes, that food list is designed to keep your cellular growth and momentum and your immune system everything running at the state it needs to. So you always need to know about it. Not where you fall at what time in your life, you know. Cause there's versions of Kelly like I could be skinny Kelly and then there's the fluffy Kelly. But I always know where to go back to because that kitchen and that list was always my medicine. So, you know, you still need to know how to eat.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Right?

[Kelly Bowman]

No matter where you go, you still need to know how to do this. Honestly, I believe the biggest relationship that we fail on is our relationship with our food and ourselves.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Oh, that's my biggest struggle. Cause I love food and it's hard for me to fight cravings. Like I'm not that disciplined in my life where if my body's saying Shake Shack burger, I gotta have the burger.

[Kelly Bowman]

You are the sum of your experiences.

[Monica Brown]

Girl.

[Kelly Bowman]

Girl, I get it.

[Monica Brown]

Yes.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

What would you tell someone like me or anyone watching who feels like. Because I remember when I was vegan, it was hard to be social. It was hard to go out to eat with your friends and it's hard. Can you not cook this in butter? It was so many restrictions that you had what can you tell someone who is busy but wants to try to start shifting their life? What are some fundamental things they can do to start making a change towards the alkaline plant based diet if they can't just go cold turkey?

[Kelly Bowman]

Yeah. No one can. Not in this day and age. That would be dumb for me to sit up here and tell you that I believe in that. I don't take anybody through a journey of me.

[Monica Brown]

Wow.

[Kelly Bowman]

Who are you?

[Chris Renee Hazel]

So good.

[Kelly Bowman]

Who are you? Like, who are you? What do you eat when you're sad? Like, that's what I like to talk about. Like, what do you eat when you know you're extremely happy?

[Monica Brown]

Right.

[Kelly Bowman]

Like that's who you are and that's the person I want to know.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

Because the book of you is what matters. So when you start to make changes, you want to look at it like this. Okay, well, we know that candy is not something that we're gonna. But what are you gonna replace it with?

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Right?

[Kelly Bowman]

So it's not about taking away, but it's the subtraction and the addition. Okay, So I need to eat berries in the morning. I need to get, you know, nature's candy. But don't go cold turkey. Your brain won't understand that sugar is a big drug.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Oh my gosh, I'm.

[Kelly Bowman]

So is salt. So you have to replace them. And so I tell people, learn to learn you.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

What can you do when you're on your better days? Like we're talking about having your cycle. You know, you eat differently.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

We were just talking about.

[Kelly Bowman]

So I like people to journey through that feeling and take a journal. So when I'm on my cycle, what do I eat and what's the worst things that I eat? And then on the other side, what makes me well.

[Monica Brown]

Yes.

[Kelly Bowman]

What do I do that keeps me this way? So you can have ginger on there, you can have red raspberry. You can have drinking more water, less salt. You can have. You know what I'm saying? So you can always have your playbook. Because we're so busy in this world right now. I mean, how can people really say I'm gonna go from a barbecue sandwich all the way down to mushrooms?

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Girl, how do you feel about jackfruit?

[Kelly Bowman]

Ain't nobody doing that. Jackfruit is cool, but for the meat eater, it's nice to look at, but it's not a transfer. So I tell people, okay, so how can you break this down that makes sense to you? And I think that's where I want to meet you, where you are not where I don't want you to live Kelly's life. I can't live Alfredo Bowman, Dr. Sebi's life. I have to figure it out to make sense. But the goal, if our goal is the same, to be well, to have peace, then we have to journey through this and participate in our rescue. So those little changes, drinking more water, that's great. But how much water can you get in a day? And how can you structure that to be in something you want to do? So if it's not water, can you drink coffee? Coconut water? Do you like watermelon water? Getting to know yourself on paper is so dope.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

But taking those small things, that's the important thing. But we all know we can't eat at different. We can't have fried food every day to wake up with a good attitude.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Right.

[Kelly Bowman]

Because junk in, junk out.

[Monica Brown]

Yes, yes.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

That's so true. That's so true. I feel like right now more than ever, our food administration is finally taking away things that have been really killing us, like the food dies. And it's more like conversations that happen overseas. And that's in their food. That's not in their food, is in our food. How do you feel about the changes that they're making? But then I just saw something where they're starting to put vaccines in vegetables. So things that we know we should be eating now, they're putting vaccines in lettuce, and I think it may have been tomatoes. It was like a government hearing that I was Senate hearing that I was watching. I was like, what is happening? How do you feel about that when you hear about the things that are going on? And does everyone need to be growing food in their garden in their backyard? Like, is that the remedy to all this?

[Kelly Bowman]

Yeah, you just answered it.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

But I don't have time.

[Kelly Bowman]

I love the growers. I love when I go to a different city. I travel a lot to see clients. I love talking to people, and I love when people want to give me a present. And that comes in giving me their truth.

[Monica Brown]

Yes.

[Kelly Bowman]

So I like to visit farmers, local farmers. There are local farmers everywhere and going to farmers markets, learning how to grow small things in your backyard. They're so cool. You got it on YouTube, you got it on different platforms where you learn how to grow your own. But also, there are barcodes on the vegetables that you see in grocery stores. Please pay attention. Oh, I have the Yuca app. There is so much. See, I'm glad you brought that out, because that's a tool.

[Monica Brown]

Yes.

[Kelly Bowman]

So when you See better or, you know, better. You should definitely do better. Because we ain't gonna survive if we don't. There's such a war on food.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

It. It makes no sense for you not to take a proactive, you know, some kind of effort in your own. Even if it's just going to the farmers markets. We all have them in our towns.

[Monica Brown]

We do.

[Kelly Bowman]

But in food deserts, I'm. I'm liking that, you know, more people are getting into donating food to food deserts and understanding you can get things delivered to your house by way of mail now. So I love those things that are going on. There's a couple of ones that I like in California that you can order your vegetables and they bring them onto your house, like Uber. So just finding. But it's finding you. Because, see, here's the truth of the matter. Being a nurse, I've seen a lot of people in the hospitals and they're dying by default because you didn't pay attention. So it's good to look at, but it's better to behave yourself.

[Monica Brown]

That's good.

[Kelly Bowman]

That's the part. It's just like, you don't want to end up me, you know, and I don't. You won't find me in the ER with you, but you don't want a nurse to keep injecting you with stuff because you didn't get it. Right.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Right.

[Kelly Bowman]

Is a doctor to check on you for what you're doing up front or is he to give you something because you haven't done any check in on yourself? You got to ask yourself why you go to the doctor? Why do you go and sit in an office and you got all this anxiety?

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

Because you don't know yourself.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

You don't know yourself.

[Kelly Bowman]

So we got to know ourselves. Because when I go to the doctor, I'm checking on what I've done. I'm gonna be a little bit conceited. Listen, I'm 53. I'm still trying to be in the senior streets.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Trying to get out there.

[Kelly Bowman]

Yes. No, I'm kidding. No, I'm not. Right.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Actually, I'm not. That is so funny. But that serious, like, we need to be proactive instead of reactive.

[Kelly Bowman]

That's it.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

And I think a lot of times, like, it's not until, like, I'm feeling something where I'm like, ooh, what is that? What's that? I need to go to a doctor and figure out what this is versus, like, really taking time to get to know my body, to know. Like, wait, this isn't this doesn't feel right.

[Kelly Bowman]

There you go.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Because I have touched myself. I do know. Okay, that wasn't there a week ago. Let me go get this checked out before months pass. And I want to go away because I think sometimes because I was an athlete growing up, I feel pain. I'm like, you just brush off, you keep pushing, it'll go away. The body will heal itself. But no, you need to listen to that and take heed. But then what if there's things that we can be doing at home? What are some things?

[Kelly Bowman]

You learn love at home. You learn hate at home. You learn so much insecurities at home. But you know what? That's where we all have to stop and say, what are we teaching as the adult in the room? And if you're allowing your children or the people in your home to let television give you the parenting, give you the. Then you're gonna get misinformed. And how much are you informed? So it's about participation. I like when I can sit with my clients and talk to them at a roundtable with their families and go, all right, we gonna talk about some dirty stuff. We gonna talk about Snickers. We gonna talk about hot dogs. But the question is, let's have a conversation about our food. Let's have it. Because it's all in. The goal is to be peaceful and happy. No one wants to die by default because we, you know, with diabetes or hypertension or, you know, heart disease. Could we have done something on the front end?

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Absolutely.

[Kelly Bowman]

So those conversations, small ones, they don't have to all be large. But when I go into your house, if I really want to know you, I'm going to look in your refrigerator, and that's going to tell me the sum of your experiences.

[Monica Brown]

Wow.

[Kelly Bowman]

And the level of, you know, self love. Because it is abusive to think that all of this stuff that you're eating that's processed is going to save your life. So when I meet people and I see them there, I pray first. I pray for forgiveness. They didn't know. There's a lack of knowledge. When I look in the refrigerator, and I didn't grow up with a lack of knowledge. And then, you know, because when I was young, I would go, you know, I talk to my papi, and he's sitting on the porch with, you know, him smoking and talking to his friends. And I go, listen, I went over my friend's house, they had this, this, and this in their refrigerator, and it looked good. And they let me taste this. And he'd look over at me and go, and then you'll die.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Wow.

[Kelly Bowman]

I'm like, well, wait a minute. That's not what I was coming to him telling him I had found gold, when in actuality, it was poison. He never allowed me to have that fantasy Cinderella world that I told you. It was always so real as a child.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Were you like, gosh, dad, just let me live in this fantasy world for a minute. Or were you always like, okay, this.

[Kelly Bowman]

Is just what it is. Well, they're your parents. You gonna get what you wanna get out of it. But I'm glad I could always default on the truth.

[Monica Brown]

Yes.

[Kelly Bowman]

And that's what I want for people in the world, is default on truth. But know what truth is. See, if you're out here in this fantasy world thinking that you're gonna find it on TikTok, you're gonna find it. You have to know. You. You gotta know what makes you work. A lot of people don't understand that. That quiet time by yourself. Some people get scared of being quiet by themselves. But that's what grows you.

[Monica Brown]

Yes.

[Kelly Bowman]

Those talks with Big Mama or your aunt about them having gardens when they were little, that grows you up. But you gotta grow up at some point and don't let it be too late. That's so true. Yeah.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

I love it. I want to talk about women's health, which is something that you and I have talked about at my kitchen table, about perimenopause and menopause and how to get ahead of it, you know, and things that we can do to kind of help regulate our body naturally. We have a huge audience in that age range, and I would love to, like, just give them some insight on things that we can do to just be prepared and to help regulate it.

[Kelly Bowman]

Well, I'm at that age, you know, I remember the first time I saw my mom have a hot flash, and I'm like, you've been working out. You're just.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

What happened?

[Kelly Bowman]

It's Sunday. You didn't work today. And I remember those conversations, and I remember her telling me about it. But I also remember the conversation with my dad, and I asked him about my grandmother, his mom. Oh, she didn't have those. And I'm like, you sure? And she did. He may not have seen him.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

She probably.

[Kelly Bowman]

So my questions, the wheels start turning. I'm like, okay, so you're telling me that there's some experiences that women don't tell men. Oh, okay.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

But I feel like they need to know to help, to better understand.

[Kelly Bowman]

Exactly. And I'M glad that we're at the time that we need to talk about it. I'm at that age now and I look at things and go, some of the things that are important is knowing if you're in perimenopause. Okay. Here's some things that I like to take out of people's diet when I meet them. The processed sugar, heavy salt, heavy carbs. I need to take those away. And alcohol. I love to take out fried foods. I start there. You notice I didn't say meat first.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

You did not.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah. Wow.

[Kelly Bowman]

We'll get to that.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Okay.

[Kelly Bowman]

Because in, in, in really short instances, when you add sugar really quick, you'll feel it. When you add salt really quick, you'll feel it. Your kidneys are not processed and you have so much little of water hydration. Do you know when you go into the hospital, first thing they give you is an IV? You know why 90 of the people are dehydrated?

[Monica Brown]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. As you know.

[Kelly Bowman]

Yeah. So you're getting this idea like, stop sticking something in my arm. And then after about an hour, you go, hey, why am I feeling better? Y' all didn't do nothing. Yes, they did. They did something you didn't do. Yes, they did something you didn't do. Hydration. So now they're telling you about what you're doing to your body. They're saying you're not showing up the way you should.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Right.

[Kelly Bowman]

They're saying that you need to do better out there. They're sending you home with a list of medications and then they have lifestyle changes and all. Do you know what lifestyle changes are? Your lifestyle is wrong and you need to do better so you don't have to see us and spend this money.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

But just in case you end up in that position where hormones is a thing. I love chickpeas. I love burdock. I love valerian root. I love. And these are things that I know that can help me control and maintain my hormonal level. But also mood swings, also flashes. Also. But also I look at people and go, you know, how much do we spend on moving? Activity is so important.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

So important.

[Kelly Bowman]

I don't think we do. So I had to talk to a 40 year old Kelly some years back and say, okay, get out your car and walk down the block before you go in the house.

[Monica Brown]

Wow.

[Kelly Bowman]

Just go, you know, you gotta do it. I've been walking all my life. You know how to do it. And that's one thing my father taught me. When we would talk, we would walk and talk. But I realized he wasn't smoking. First, he knew I couldn't take it. But the second was he says, I did that because it releases endorphins that I need to think and it gives you oxygen. And so I adopted it. And I remember that wasn't till 40 till it clicked. And I realized this masterclass that he taught me, it was a behavior driven. It wasn't a talk, it was total behavior. It was the prayers of my mom. That was behavior. It was all behavior driven. So I had to pay attention.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

Yeah.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

That's amazing. We also talked about womb health and if people who are trying to get pregnant or want to get pregnant. Also your diet plays a part in that as well.

[Kelly Bowman]

Your diet plays a part in everything you do but your wound. For women. Those things that I just mentioned to you about the red raspberry. I love papaya. I love a calm woman to talk to. How do we get you calm? I never go with herbs and stuff first. What makes you calm?

[Monica Brown]

Right.

[Kelly Bowman]

No, really, what makes you calm?

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Yeah, I'm trying to think. What makes you calm? Honestly, I feel like I'm most calm like when I'm in solitude, when I'm at home just chilling and not thinking about everything that I have on my list.

[Kelly Bowman]

Yeah.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Time with friends and family, loved ones. I'm calm in those spaces because I think those people make me the most comfortable. Because I'm always on guard when I'm not with them. If I'm around strangers, I'm always on guard.

[Kelly Bowman]

So that causes inflammation. Cortisol levels go up. A1C sugar goes up. You won't get pregnant like that. You understand? You see how we build a wall. And if we cannot be balanced in every situation that we sit in, that means we got work do. But when you are feeling love.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

When you are feeling supported, when you're. When you're not at a lack of these things, your wound opens right up. So that means there's some things you're going to have to have, you know, conversations about with yourself.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

What do I need?

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

To be at peace.

[Kelly Bowman]

How. And that's the first. It's not. I can give you all the suggestions in the world, but until you know the book of you, we can't start.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Right?

[Kelly Bowman]

Yeah.

[Monica Brown]

Wow.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

I saw something where they were saying because everybody's on this ozempic wave and all these shots to lose weight. And I saw a news article that was saying that people who have been taking shots, their pregnancy rates went up and you just touched on that because when your cortisol levels and your A1C levels are high, literally when you say.

[Kelly Bowman]

I was like, there you go. It's a body science.

[Monica Brown]

Yes.

[Kelly Bowman]

I'm not saying anything that your body ain't right.

[Monica Brown]

Right.

[Kelly Bowman]

You get it?

[Chris Renee Hazel]

I get it. Yeah. When you said that, it clicked. I was like, wow. That's why people are getting pregnant. Because.

[Kelly Bowman]

And it's this moment you realize something that you can teach another woman just now. And I appreciate you for getting that because someone needed to hear that. Thank you.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Kelly Bowman]

For bringing that out.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Thank you.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

That's what's up. This is how we learn.

[Monica Brown]

Yes.

[Kelly Bowman]

Your energy is dope. Like, I'm just going across here, like.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

You see, I haven't even flipped the cards. I'm like, this is a conversation.

[Kelly Bowman]

This is what's up. But you bring all that down. You can naturally do it, but it takes you some time. And my biggest celebrity of the garden. Let me explain something. Okra can level the blood sugar like no other.

[Monica Brown]

Wow.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Now, not fried okra. Cause, see, I'm from the South. I love me a deep fried okra, baby.

[Kelly Bowman]

That's what's up. I hear that.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Cause it's something about the slimy okra. I can't. Like, my mom loves it.

[Kelly Bowman]

I get you.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Yes.

[Kelly Bowman]

Yeah. I don't like the slime either. People don't realize. I don't. And I love okra. So you know what I do?

[Chris Renee Hazel]

What do you do? How do you get the slime out?

[Kelly Bowman]

Wash it. I chop it up.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Chop it.

[Kelly Bowman]

I chop it.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Because when you keep it whole.

[Kelly Bowman]

There you go. Chop it. Like a little bit of stir fry. Just a little. Throw it on top of a salad. I eat it in the morning. So I did a test on myself. I tell people it doesn't take much to learn how to use a glucometer to check your own blood sugar or a blood pressure cuff. You got these right at home. Test your own urine. You ain't got to be a nurse or a doctor. You just got to be interested. So good.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

That's it. Yep. You don't have to be a nurse or a doctor. You just gotta be interested. Okay. Are you interested? Cause I am. I'm so curious.

[Kelly Bowman]

And I love your point about those GLPs. And, you know, after a while, they stop working because, see, you depended on him or GLP to make you who you wanna be.

[Monica Brown]

Mm. Mm.

[Kelly Bowman]

You left you out.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Come on.

[Kelly Bowman]

So when I have reoccurring clients who I see and they have me come back, they Go. Well, I was on gop and I had your diet, but then the GOP stopped working. I said, did you keep the diet? Well, no. Okay, wait, wait, wait. You're made of natural composition. You were made by God in the most natural way. And you're gonna tell me that you were depending on the GOP to get you through? No, baby. You don't get to go around life. But getting rid of that sugar needs to be understood. So that's why knowing the truth about yourself is a beautiful thing. It's an ultimate go. It is a superpower you have got to tap into, because not only gonna change your life, you're gonna change everybody who you talk to. You are super dope. When you get to know yourself, your character is now built.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

So you can't buy that in a bottle. You can't shoot that in your arm. You can't buy it at the store. Character is built, and you build it through your diet and knowing yourself.

[Monica Brown]

Yes.

[Kelly Bowman]

That's how you know you.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

That's so good. That's so good. You said something earlier about diseases can't live in a. They thrive off acidity, or is it.

[Kelly Bowman]

Yes, they love acid.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

So sugar.

[Kelly Bowman]

Yes, Keep going.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Fruits that are acidic.

[Kelly Bowman]

Oh, my gosh. Yes. So there's some balances of fruits, like I said, when they have a seed. I love Georgia. At the Georgia Florida line, they have gold. They got gold over there. They got these watermelons, the original watermelons with the original seeds. Those big black girl, we ain't far. I go, listen. Wow. Let me go pick you up one.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Yeah, we'll go together.

[Kelly Bowman]

Okay.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Take me to the Georgia Florida. It's the Georgia. Which line?

[Kelly Bowman]

Georgia Florida line.

[Monica Brown]

Wow.

[Kelly Bowman]

There's a lot of growers out there that I know and love. Wow. You got to get to know yourself. I got to know where my food is. It's like a scavenger hunt sometimes, I bet. But those alkaline products, those seeded fruits, those are the ones that get you through.

[Monica Brown]

Wow.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

The seeded ones. Okay.

[Kelly Bowman]

The originals.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

The original OG's.

[Kelly Bowman]

The OGs.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

That's the watermelon. Lemons with seeds. Not the lemon seeds.

[Kelly Bowman]

Now, lemons are. Now, let's just talk about lemon and pineapple. Okay. Let's just talk about that.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Cause, yeah, I got some. About them pineapples.

[Kelly Bowman]

All right. So let's just talk about it. So if I cut your arm open with a razor blade.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Ouch.

[Kelly Bowman]

And I put lemon in it, what happens?

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Ouch. Ouch.

[Kelly Bowman]

Okay, now, if I take. I give you some Pineapple. And I just slit the sides of your mouth just a little bit, and I just keep giving it to you. What happens?

[Chris Renee Hazel]

I don't know if pineapple burns the.

[Kelly Bowman]

Way someone said it.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

What is supposed to say? It stings. It'll sting too. Okay.

[Kelly Bowman]

It burns.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

I didn't realize pineapple is acidic like that.

[Kelly Bowman]

Yeah. So what is that?

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Oh, acid.

[Kelly Bowman]

There you go.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Yes.

[Kelly Bowman]

So what do you think is doing at your cellular level if at the softest tissue on the outer side of you, it's being. So what do you think? So when you add lemonade is good to taste, but I like limeade because it's alkaline, because it doesn't kill. Like, if you add that lemon to it now you're adding acid. So does it kill all the properties now? Lemons do. Yeah. It's just basic science. So lemon is an acid, and there are foods that are acids, like sugar. Think about it. Let's talk about it.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

I love sugar.

[Kelly Bowman]

You have beautiful teeth, baby.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

I don't know about. I'm addicted to the cough drops, those lozenges, sugar cane.

[Kelly Bowman]

But if you want. If we both want to keep our teeth, then our dentist will tell us what to take away first.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Sugar.

[Kelly Bowman]

Why?

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Because it breaks down the enamel.

[Kelly Bowman]

It breaks down what?

[Chris Renee Hazel]

The enamel.

[Kelly Bowman]

Enamel's the hardest.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

What part of the tooth to protect it?

[Kelly Bowman]

You didn't even have to go to school. You just had to pay attention. So what does that tell you about your diet? Every time you sit with sugar. Every time you sit with sugar, what are you doing? And it is coursing through all of our meals at this point. They use it. You know, sugar is also used as a preservative so food can travel across. You know, it's used in making French fries that make them last longer in fast food. It's used for everything. It's in everything.

[Monica Brown]

Wow. Yes.

[Kelly Bowman]

It's used to do a whole bunch of stuff, but it's not used to make you better.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

It's not. And now there's studies, which I'm sure they've always known this, but now studies are showing that sugar feeds cancer. Like, they thought about that.

[Kelly Bowman]

Oh, it's been that. It's been that for years now. When they chose to, you know, or when we found it necessary to know, you know, it's always affected us. Yeah, the dentist told us.

[Monica Brown]

Sure did. Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

How did we miss. From the dentist to the dining table, Right. What happened?

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Oh, my gosh.

[Kelly Bowman]

We happened.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

We happened.

[Kelly Bowman]

We didn't show up. So, you know, instead of maybe Television time or movie? How about if we talk about some things about health, about our children? If we say we love them, are we feeding them? Well, you know, discipline comes in different ways. But, you know, the Bible's very clear about that. If you don't love your kids, you know, if you love your kids, rather you discipline them. And it didn't mean just, you know, telling them right from wrong is true. But did you tell them about their diet?

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

Did you leave that out?

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

If you leave that out, then the whole rest of the journey can be kind of interesting because mental health right now is at an all time high.

[Monica Brown]

It is, yes.

[Kelly Bowman]

But what else has changed? The ultra processed foods. Also, Covid did a number on these kids. On adults, too.

[Monica Brown]

Yes.

[Kelly Bowman]

More processed foods. Nobody walked, Nobody did anything but eat and sit in front of you of television. So what do you think it did for health?

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Oh, decline. Yeah, I can imagine.

[Kelly Bowman]

Man. Man, oh man. A1C. People went up in all sort of numbers. It was crazy.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

I gained so much weight during that time.

[Kelly Bowman]

And then they were sick. With COVID it's just like, it was amazing. But the carbs went up, everything went. And then depression went up. These kids can't win unless we help them get to know the natural truth about themselves. These kids can't win.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

I always, my brother and my sister, they both have young children and I don't have any kids, but I'm always sending them information. Like, make sure I see what they're feeding. My sister, she works in the health field, so she's more mindful and cognizant of it. But my nephew, he eats everything. And I was like, well, make sure, because this has a emphasis on their mind and adhd. Like, what you're feeding them, like this can. It can help or it can help it or it can make it worse. And I was like, make sure you're not feeding a bunch of processed foods. McDonald's Every Day, Freezer foods, like those stuff you just pop in the microwave, little things like that. So I always send little things like, hey, make sure he's not eating this. Foods with dyes in it. Because I'm seeing all these things, but I'm like, I don't have any kids, so how can I share it with the people that I know?

[Kelly Bowman]

I like how you're sharing. Most times when I feel like I want to say something to someone and I can't use words, my behaviors bleed. So I'll make you a fruit salad and bring it to you.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

If you ever want to show up in someone's life. Show up in someone's life. You can text. You can punk out and text. But if you show up with just your arms out, your hands open, ready to receive and ready to get.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah, it's a.

[Kelly Bowman]

You're giving God something to bless. You know, a lot of people don't really know God. They think they do, but I try to introduce it through his best. And that's. That's his. That's his vegetable. See, when you talk to me, I want you to know God's best. I'm here as a representative. I know my assignment and I like it.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

And that came from where a sick man who wanted to know better. And I thank him, and I thank my mom. She was a praying woman and he was a farmer.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

And I love it. I love what I got and I'm gonna use it. But we all have that choice. We couldn't, you know, in life, I think we couldn't control what happened to us before this moment. We couldn't control where we were born, what problems we went through. But you know what, baby girl? We can control that ending.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

We sure can.

[Kelly Bowman]

We can curate something so beautiful. And it all starts with how we see ourselves and how we want to see our future. You can't see it pretty clear if your diet is all cloudy and crazy and unholy and unhealthy.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Yeah, no, for sure. That is so good. Oh, my goodness. Earlier we were talking about how your dad talked about fasting.

[Kelly Bowman]

Yes.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

And I've seen the importance of fasting. Like in church, we do the Daniels fast and we fast for Lent and all those things. But there are ways to literally heal your body from the inside out just from fasting.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

What are some of your favorite ways to fast that really just reset your body?

[Kelly Bowman]

I love three day reset.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

I wanted to talk about that.

[Monica Brown]

Yes.

[Kelly Bowman]

Okay. Three day. Okay. So you gotta start at five days. You gotta break your diet down, especially if you just eat a traditional diet, which means anything you regularly eat. So you go from eating that to now doing semi solids to now liquids. And when you get to that third day, now you're just doing water.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

What's a semi solid?

[Kelly Bowman]

Semi solids are like things that don't require a lot of chewing. Yeah. So you know, those kind of things are important. So because you're breaking your brain down to understand. Okay, I'm taking away something and it's now understand. Okay, we're not getting as much sugar and acid. What are we doing? Yeah. So I like to break it down by that three day, you get to that water, you know, you break it down from solids to semi solids, to water or liquids, down to water. But if you break it down like that, it's easier for the body to understand. Because we are the sum of our experiences. Whether it's trauma or joy or love, we are the sum. And so your brain needs you to go from one state to another with some ease. Love yourself enough to say, hey, listen, I wanna get in this journey in a way that you understand.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

When have you done that? Have you loved a man more than you loved yourself? Oh, yeah, I did it.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Definitely done it.

[Kelly Bowman]

It was whack. And then I realized, I gotta get back to me. Yes. Yeah.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

We always get to that moment, like, what am I doing?

[Kelly Bowman]

But we love and we massage a relationship. But how much time and patience have we put into loving ourselves?

[Monica Brown]

Wow.

[Kelly Bowman]

So when I do that five, that three day, by the time I break it down, my body's like, okay, no less sugar, no, no salt. Okay, what are we replacing it with? So when I'm doing a three day fast after that three days, man, oh man. Now I like people to start that kind of thing at home. Don't try to work and do a whole bunch. Do it on off day. So start slow and start with one day, okay. Then to two, then to three. My father used to do 40. I can't. I still can't do 40. I'm not gonna push it. It's not that I can'. I got. I am not Dr. Savior. I didn't get to.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

I'm his daughter. I am not him. Right. 40 days. I loved him for that.

[Kelly Bowman]

And I used to watch Jesus tip, baby. I love that for him. But what was his journey with God? Yeah, what was his journey? I got to watch. But what is mine, right? I can't be in his lane. I gotta.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

That's real.

[Kelly Bowman]

Gotta be looking at mine.

[Monica Brown]

Yes.

[Kelly Bowman]

How am I building Kelly up? So the most I've ever done was 20 days. But then you gotta build it back up. You just can't run the burgers. You'll make yourself sick.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Right.

[Kelly Bowman]

Cause once you clean out, even after a three day, the energy level comes up. You're starting the process of your organs healing itself.

[Monica Brown]

Wow.

[Kelly Bowman]

People don't realize that's a whole thing.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

It's a whole thing.

[Kelly Bowman]

It's a whole goal to get your body balanced. And you can do it, but take time.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

You know what, guys? I think we should do a three day fast with Dr. Sebi's daughters by Keep it positive, sweetie. And, like. And you kind of help us with the guidelines of, like, how we should do it. But we should do that. I think just as a community, we should fast.

[Kelly Bowman]

We should do that. I love it. Even if it's just down to liquids.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

What you learn and in that, it's not just focusing on just that. Because that's not the focus. The focus is taking away all of that extra. And I really believe they're distractions. Processed foods are distractions. Once you take that away, who really are you? What really are you feeling? How close to God are you feeling? How close to yourself are you? What? What's going on? You're probably just. Your body's been waiting for it. You don't even know how creative you gonna be.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Oh, my goodness.

[Kelly Bowman]

I love it.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

You are so right. Because when I do fast just from things that are distracting, like, one year, I took, like, a month off Instagram, which is a big distraction for me. When I tell you it didn't have anything to do with food, but just when you say fasting and, like, creatively, like, my brain had so much space to think because I wasn't like this all day.

[Kelly Bowman]

There you go. You know, There you go.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

But I can imagine if I had done that inside as well. Oh, my goodness.

[Kelly Bowman]

Look at that.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

I like when people pull away from social media because I want you to get to know yourself. I'm not one to be on it a lot. I think that there's a time and a place for me to share because I like to balance out what I do, because I don't. My products don't come from China. I am my manufacturer. I go get the herbs for you. I make sure that, like, they're flown in for you. I'm processing them down.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

My goal is to ensure that you have a healthy experience with Savie's daughters. But this is the way it was given to me.

[Monica Brown]

Okay.

[Kelly Bowman]

Because people didn't realize that I was, wanna say, be sick. As children, I had a heart condition and still do. And he took care of me my whole life. Now a third world country he's from. His brother had a heart condition like mine and he died young. And when they found out it was me, also, as I got older, it wouldn't.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

It's like, we're not letting this happen to you.

[Kelly Bowman]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So learning from that end as well. So my tutorial was not just, you know, because he taught me, it was to live.

[Monica Brown]

Yes.

[Kelly Bowman]

I am 53. I'm grateful that he Taught me how, because now I didn't die at 10 or 12. I'm 53.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Right.

[Kelly Bowman]

And I appreciate him showing me that if I pay attention to myself, I can live a long life. I don't think there's a person who doesn't understand that. You know, when your parents give you guidance, please take it.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

It may just save your life.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Absolutely. Literally.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

No, I can think of many times where, as a child or a kid growing up, the advice and the guidance my parents would give me, I may have not understood it then, but as I became an adult, I was like, wow, this definitely saved my life.

[Kelly Bowman]

Look how much you saved someone's life today with this time we're spending right now.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Oh, my gosh.

[Kelly Bowman]

I appreciate you because we don't have much time left to get this right. And a lack of knowledge will keep you with high levels of anxiety. But if you become knowledgeable, you fear very less. You fear less things. You don't run when you know you hear a diagnosis because you know where to go.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Right.

[Kelly Bowman]

And that's the thing. You can't live with a lack of knowledge because all it causes is anxiety.

[Monica Brown]

Yes. Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

And that's what it causes. And I believe we're in an era right now that people don't pull away from social media, and they don't realize that that's not a knowledge about you. So there is a lack of knowledge about you.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

You need to pull away and find, like, that space that you found. It opens your mind up to beautiful things. Who are you without the Internet? Who are you without all the distractions? You know, like when you in the shower and you take off, I could take this makeup off my face, all the earrings, and I am stripped naked with the running water. Who the heck am I? Is my question every day.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

And if I'm not a better Kelly today than I was yesterday, then I am wasting time. Wasting time.

[Monica Brown]

I'm wasting time.

[Kelly Bowman]

Yeah.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Goodness. Oh, this is so good. You talked about your business and how you source your own ingredients. Where are some of the places that you get your ingredients? And I know we talked about how some things take a very long time to make. One of your favorites, the rose shea butter. Oh, my God. I got it on the day.

[Kelly Bowman]

And you know why I stuck it in there? Because you're healing. You know, when I got a chance to meet you, I looked in your eyes, and I'm like, I want to give her something that she's never had before. Rose is the highest, I think the highest aroma. One of the highest aromas that we could have in the world. It ranks so high. And I wanted you to have a calm in the form of a jar full of goodness.

[Monica Brown]

Yes.

[Kelly Bowman]

And I wanted you to know that I care enough about your experience to just give you an experience with me.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

Give you my good girl moment through my product. And that's Sadie's daughters.

[Monica Brown]

Yes.

[Kelly Bowman]

That's what I was given. And I don't know how to not share. So that product line has to do with me sharing a part of love for you just as a person who wants to do better.

[Monica Brown]

Yes.

[Kelly Bowman]

But, yeah, it take a long time to make, girl. I should be selling it for, like, $2,000.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

No, literally, when you said, like, just the shea butter alone is, like, five weeks to make.

[Kelly Bowman]

Five weeks.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

And I was like, how much are you charging? Like, you need. This is like gold in a bottle.

[Kelly Bowman]

Those organic rose petals. You even have it in soap form over there. I got it in soap form, but those organic petals are important. So, yeah, Honduras is where I get my products from.90%. And then the other places where it's grown. So you have, like, St. Lucia is where I love going to get the product. Like, I love my gels. Like, my father always talked about CMOs, so me being the curious daughter and, you know, like I said, I wanted to go to nursing school to understand the medical and the natural together. And so I just kept diving deep into where these places were that my father journeyed.

[Monica Brown]

Right.

[Kelly Bowman]

Where did he go? And so that led me on a journey of tracking steps. And it was from my diaries that I started at 9, where he telled me he'd be, where he would go, and I just kept going.

[Monica Brown]

Wow.

[Kelly Bowman]

I've never shared that before. Thank you. You're welcome.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Thank you.

[Kelly Bowman]

Yeah, I've never shared that. And I've just been on a journey.

[Monica Brown]

Ye.

[Kelly Bowman]

Finding me, finding him, finding us, because that's my ministry.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Oh, my goodness. Before we started talking, we asked if your father's is like a camp in Honduras, if it was still there. And you're like, the family still operates it.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

How often do you get to go there and just spend time?

[Kelly Bowman]

Oh, so much. As often as I can. They call me sometimes when you're coming home, and I go, I'm coming. You know how it's home, like, wherever you're from, you go, okay, I'll get there when I get there to get there. But they, you know, we talk every week. We talk all the time. They'll send me videos, pictures, like, of the Vegetables. My oldest brother Sami's growing or, you know, we all stop through.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

But what's the name of it?

[Kelly Bowman]

The Usha Village.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

The Usha Village. And can people still visit it?

[Kelly Bowman]

Oh, yes. Listen. That's the highest level of alkaline water that runs through. It comes from volcanoes, and it runs right through the village. When my father. It was in the 80s when. When it was being erected, I was pregnant with my son, and that was so difficult, but it was. You know, it's such a beautiful place. But how he has the water running through the village was important because we were eating the vegetables off of the land. So why not have the water from the volcanic. That volcanic alkaline water come through and feed the vegetables? Like, yo, come on. Where do you get that from? Yeah, yeah. So that was, like, his vision of what he wanted in a place of healing was big.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Like, first. What took him to Honduras, do you know, like, the.

[Kelly Bowman]

From there.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

He's. Oh, he's originally from there. Okay. I was like, how did he get there? Okay. Goodness.

[Kelly Bowman]

Yep. My father was born.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

His mom. Yeah, it was that. That's home.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Yeah, that.

[Kelly Bowman]

I was born in California, but that's home.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Okay. That's what I was trying to find, the connection.

[Kelly Bowman]

He got here and, you know, life changed, but it was because he wanted it to.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Oh, my God.

[Kelly Bowman]

How it change was, you know, so me following this journey, I could not name my company anything else.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

No, it's perfect.

[Kelly Bowman]

Sabie's daughters. And we're all Sabi's daughters. I put S's on it because it's not just me, who I touch, who they touch.

[Monica Brown]

Yes.

[Kelly Bowman]

We're all a form of wanting to be healed and heal others. And that's my savvy way. That's how I lean into it. That's my calling. That's what I want to do. Because in my last days, I'm curating a life to where you remember me in this way.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

This is what you remember about Kelly Bowman. Because my father wasted no time, and I don't think that's my journey to waste any time. If I can help someone understand them or someone, I don't care what it is we should all be. If we all sat and helped each other, how well would we be?

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Oh, my goodness.

[Kelly Bowman]

How well would we be?

[Chris Renee Hazel]

And how powerful would we be if we're well together?

[Kelly Bowman]

That's what I'm saying.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

My goodness. Oh, man.

[Kelly Bowman]

Kelly, you have.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

I'm so happy. Like, if we hadn't have had that conversation in the Kitchen, just talking about, like, crystal, what are you eating? How are you feeling? What are you going through? This conversation probably wouldn't have happened. So I'm so happy you took time because, you know, a lot of times we're in a rush. That day you came in and sat down, you know, and it meant so much like that you would just come in and pour the knowledge into me and really get to know me, to help me become better, you know, because I do want. Like you said, I could tell you were healed and I started tearing up when you said that because it's an ever evolving part of me where I'm constantly healing and trying to shed certain things. And I know that a big part of it is my diet. Like, until to this day, I have a crutch. Like when I'm feeling anxiety, I tend to lean towards the more processed foods, the comfort foods. So I'm glad we had this conversation today because I know it's going to help so many people. It's helped the people in this room, so I know it's going to help so many people. Before we get out of here, I do want to ask you. Our word for this season is impact. And the impact that your whole family has left on our community is huge. What is the impact that you want to continue to carry? As Kelly.

[Kelly Bowman]

As Kelly Bowman.

[Monica Brown]

Yes.

[Kelly Bowman]

The impact I would like to have on the world on just speaking from my journeys every day is one of love and humbleness, one of such self power and progression. I want to continue to make sure that my goal is to always support and be available to whom I meet and don't meet. I root for all people who want positivity. That's the impact that I live with. To know God at his best. If you never walk into a church and you look up into the sky, you know God.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

You know the sun, you know the grass.

[Monica Brown]

Yes.

[Kelly Bowman]

The impact I want to leave as a legacy is that of good health and, and, and of pure love.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

Healing the healer is my biggest thing. And, and you know, if I had to pray for some healing the healer and all of us are healing and we're also healers. So that's my impact. I want to make sure that I'm supporting that whole movement of love.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

I love it. And you're doing it. You are doing that.

[Kelly Bowman]

I hope so.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

You are, and you're doing it with these amazing products. I really want to get into this because I use so many of them. I use the yoni soap, I use the Maya, I use the Tea. What's the tea called?

[Kelly Bowman]

The Detox tea.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Detox tea. I use that and then the tea that's from Honduras in the tea bags.

[Kelly Bowman]

Oh, yeah.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

I start my mornings with that. I do the elderberry plus. I keep that with me everywhere I go. And then I have the capsules with the elderberry plus and the sea moss. And then I do the gel cmos.

[Kelly Bowman]

That's what's up.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

So I have no excuse. Like, it's. You've made it. So where, like, if I can't have the big jar with me everywhere I go, I can at least get in the capsules.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

Monica's like that. You know, I think that was one of the things that was kind of interesting is that we was on the road so much and I was trying to make sure during COVID we never stopped working.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

And I think trying to have liquids and then it was just too much. And I don't mind making stuff on the road, but how if I'm not with her, what does she have? And each client is different, you know, how they travel. But she needed a lot because she would be on the rope for months. Yeah, she needed a lot. So I wanted to make sure that some of the things that I've created was behind working with her during COVID It was so much fun.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

So she loves you, man. And she definitely is a great spokesperson. Oh, even your shower. Okay, I'm just gonna tell everything. Sinuses, the shower bombs.

[Kelly Bowman]

Oh, the shower bombs.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

So good. And then your. Your own. I don't say. I say VapoRub. Your own VapoRub. The valve that you have is so good. The salve in sal. Yeah, should I say valve is something else.

[Kelly Bowman]

We used to do that in Honduras. I was trying to mimic what happens. Like Poppy would pull the eucalyptus off the trees. Six o' clock in the morning. He knew I'd get up at, you know, when I was there at about 7:38, he'd go throw the bush inside the steam rooms. And he'd bang on the door, shower's ready.

[Monica Brown]

Wow.

[Kelly Bowman]

You get up and go. Yeah. And that was really an interesting time. But that feeling that I got from having my lungs open and to just have that moment, sometimes, that's the self care. That's the moment of self care. And so that's why I use the eucalyptus from Honduras to mimic that for a shower here at home. So everything that you see here, this is me. This is how I keep it going. So, yeah, the shower bombs are. That's my ode to just my time with my Father. But my time with myself, you know, And I think self care is the biggest thing. And it's a priority. It's not a luxury. It's a priority. Say it again. Yeah, it is. I mean, how much time do you have? Your schedule is so busy in the shower. The bathroom time is sometimes all we get.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

That's so true. My therapist always tells me, when you get in the shower, give yourself a big hug. There it is. Yeah. Love on yourself. And make sure that you. Because a lot of times we don't even, like, take time to be like, okay, there it is. You know, you're so right. You are so.

[Kelly Bowman]

We're gonna be okay.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

We're gonna be okay.

[Kelly Bowman]

We're gonna be okay. Yeah. That self hug. I do it a lot. I'm so glad you said it.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

But I. I throw my little shower bomb in there. I turn on my little spa music. I have a good cry or a good laugh or a good dance. It all depends, like, what mood I'm feeling.

[Monica Brown]

Yes.

[Kelly Bowman]

What I need to. As soon as I get out that door, I already know I'm battling the world.

[Monica Brown]

Yes.

[Kelly Bowman]

And I'm taking me with me, so I better be mentally stable enough to get through it.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Absolutely. That is so true.

[Kelly Bowman]

Yeah.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

I recently, I've been taking your Elderberry plus and the teas and the Maya and cmos daily. And this new wave of COVID came. I was on set, remember? Oh, this another thing I love about you. Like, I know my schedule's getting crazy, and that's when I'm most susceptible to, like, catching a cold or anything. And I called you and I said, hey, I'm about to be traveling a lot. I'm about to go to work, and I need a re up. Can you, like, put me a care package together? And you're like, absolutely. You got it right to me. And when I started taking your supplements, I literally. I didn't get sick. Sinuses. Usually every sinus season, when allergies come, I'm sneezing. It's just really bad. Didn't nothing, like, literally, I was like, this is really working. It was crazy. And then the new wave of COVID came. And usually, like, I've caught in Covid like, two or three times. Like, just. I get it. But, like, it doesn't take me down. It's not like a. Oh, God. Like, I got it. It's just like. Feels like a cold. But one time I had this, like, hacking cough for, like a month, and I was like, I went to the Doctor. I was like, when is this going away? Like, I could. I couldn't even talk. It was like, talk, like, and literally coughing. Like, it was just all in my lungs. And this time I did. I caught it again. But, like, no cough. Like, it went away just like that.

[Kelly Bowman]

Thank God.

[Monica Brown]

Good. Yeah.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

He's so good. But it's, like, natural. He already gave us what we needed to fight it. You know, they're giving us these vaccines. And, like, literally, like, I literally, like, felt a little post nasal drip, and I was like, oh, thank you. With sinuses. And then I had, like, one day where I, like, felt just a little achy, and I was like, I just need a rest. And then after that, like, literally felt 100%, but I just kept, like, elderberry plus every day.

[Kelly Bowman]

Yeah.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

He didn't leave anything out.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

He didn't.

[Kelly Bowman]

Not your food, nothing. He gave you something that is complete. These are whole foods that are in these bottles and jars. And, you know, it's funny because people don't realize that I love sound bath. I love sound bath music. And so I do it over my product. I pray over this product. I'm hoping that it gets to somebody and they use it for the you reason that I made it for you to feel better.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

And when you feel better, you do better. You know, I think that's the cool part about life, is that we can add to an experience of another person if we just try.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

God will meet you the rest of the way. Just put that first foot forward. He'll bless your efforts.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

He sure will.

[Kelly Bowman]

He blesses your efforts. And so by you telling me that, I appreciate it, because that helps me to do better with what I'm doing, but that also tells that inner side of you. You're healing.

[Monica Brown]

Yes.

[Kelly Bowman]

You're routinely healing, and that's what I want for you.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

I never started my mornings off like this.

[Kelly Bowman]

Appreciate you.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

The way I do now is like. It's like. It's a ritual. Like, I go into my refrigerator, I grab my sea moss, I grab my Maya, my tea, my elderberry plus my detox pills. I'm like, all right, let's go. And I make my tea in the morning. It's like, it's a part. Yes. Part of my day.

[Kelly Bowman]

Proud of you.

[Monica Brown]

Yeah.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Thank you. But it's because you set. You sat with me and you said, this is what you got to do. And I listened. And when you have the information, you do better. So I just want to thank you for even sharing with us your story, your journey, and just the information. I know we all, like, are going to leave here different today. Seriously. Thank you.

[Kelly Bowman]

Me included.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Yeah.

[Kelly Bowman]

It's been a pleasure, my dear.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

Thank you. Thank you so much.

[Kelly Bowman]

This is good.

[Chris Renee Hazel]

I did not look at them cars not one time. Yes. For today's Crystal's closet, I am wearing a denim and lace short by Innov. My shoes are by Loewe. My top is by Balenciaga. My earrings are by Bottega Veneta. And I am keeping it simple today with just one Van Cleef bracelet. A huge thank you to Kelly Bowman for not only continuing the legacy of Dr. Sabi, but for making wellness something that we can actually access, understand, and live. SIS is out here helping us heal ourselves. And that's the kind of impact that runs deep. If today reminded you of anything, let it be this. Your health is not a luxury. It's your foundation. And you deserve to thrive. So until next time, keep it kind, keep it whole, and of course, keep it positive. Sweetie, see y' all later.