BET MEDIA HOUSE: All Power, All Purpose

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Podcast Summary: Keep it Positive, Sweetie

BET MEDIA HOUSE: All Power, All Purpose (July 7, 2025)

Host: Crystal Renee Hayslett
Produced by: The Black Effect and iHeartPodcasts

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Overview

This episode of Keep It Positive, Sweetie is a vibrant, heartfelt roundtable from the 25th BET Awards Media House, focusing on themes of positivity, service, ownership, faith, mental health, and resilience within the entertainment industry. Host Crystal Renee Hayslett welcomes an impressive lineup of culture-shaping guests—including Angie Martinez, Kirk Franklin, Major, Shamia Morton, Salt (of Salt-N-Pepa), and more—for intimate, uplifting conversations. The episode offers honest reflections on personal growth, faith, community, and surviving in competitive spaces, aiming to inspire listeners to lead with authenticity and grace.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Healing Power of Podcasting and Honesty

• Angie Martinez discusses the difference between radio and her In Real Life podcast, emphasizing the vulnerability required:
  • “The podcast is like, you know, we're talking about real, real things...ways that we got to the other side of things, just with the things we learn in real life.” (01:04)
  • Both Crystal and Angie acknowledge that positivity is an active choice and not always easy to maintain in an often negative industry.
• On the show’s title:
  • Angie: “I love the name of this. I hear the name, I know exactly where I stand. I feel comfortable sitting with you.” (01:32)

[Notable Quote]

Crystal: "I'm one of those people, too. Like, if I were to do something that was not positive...I would immediately feel the blowback of that." (02:05)

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2. Staying Positive and Grounded

• Lee Vassey shares that Pilates and mindful habits are her ways of staying grounded:
  • “I’ve now become a Pilates girly... it's become a big part of my weekly...day-to-day things that keep me grounded and taking care of my temple.” (03:38)
• Fun “this or that” game: Guests choose between habits like “pray first or journal,” “paperback vs. audiobook,” and more, illustrating the intentional choices that support positivity.

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3. Faith and Navigating Transitions

• Kaiser reflects on her journey and reliance on faith through new experiences:
  • "God's the only reason why I’m on this journey, to be honest. If it were left up to me...I’d keep myself one-dimensional." (06:07)
• Mental health as a priority: Kaiser speaks candidly about stepping away from a thriving sports career to prioritize emotional well-being and create boundaries for herself.
  • “I realized I'm going to choose me instead of choosing the world. ... Now it is part of, like, my boundaries. I need my solitude. I need to recharge and check in.” (06:53)

[Notable Quote]

Kaiser: “The better that I am, the better I can be for others around me.” (07:55)

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4. Spiritual Memory and Consistency (Kirk Franklin)

• Kirk Franklin shares the story behind his new single and speaks on “spiritual amnesia”:
  • “It’s easy to forget what God did because you come up to another problem and...panic... my song reminds us: If he did it before, he'll do it again.” (08:47)
  • Conversation about keeping faith even when doubt creeps in and trusting in God’s track record.

[Notable Quote]

Kirk Franklin: “He don’t throw us away because of that [spiritual amnesia].” (09:40)

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5. Service and Leadership at BET (Kimberly Paige)

• Kimberly Paige describes her journey to leadership rooted in a spirit of service:
  • “As I’m thinking about anything—work, family, friends, team—I try to center from a space of service.” (10:55)

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6. Breakthroughs and Divine Timing (Major)

• Major shares his unconventional journey toward recent career breakthroughs, including his single going #1, and the story behind “I Prayed For You,” inspired by Chadwick Boseman:
  • “Oftentimes the things you expect to happen, happen out of order... Only a God like our God can plan a rollout like that.” (12:27, 13:43)
  • On perseverance: “When you’re in a season as you are... Only a God like our God can plan a rollout like that.” (13:43)

[Notable Quote]

Major: “If [Chadwick] had the audacity to hope for the world while he was going through his own thing, I think I can lock in on that, too.” (13:01)

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7. Surviving the Spotlight (Shamia Morton)

• Shares about the emotional rollercoaster of joining Real Housewives of Atlanta as a full cast member:
  • “Such high highs and low lows... But what it gave me is thick skin.... reliving something over and over again is just overwhelming at times. But I survived my first season.” (15:43)

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8. Longevity, Authenticity & New Projects (Salt of Salt-N-Pepa)

• Salt reflects on 35 years of Black Magic, timeless music, and remaining authentic:
  • “We were authentically ourselves and I feel like that's why we lasted this long.... We also made timeless music.” (16:49)
• Also discusses her upcoming solo music, which is deeply personal and testimonial.

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9. Creativity, Collaboration, and Mentorship (Courtney, Zatima Director)

• Conversation around new artistic collaborations, importance of choosing relationships that build you up, and Crystal’s own growth as an actor.
  • “Now I can show who Courtney is versus kind of... trying to make money for this and adjusting. I don't have to adjust.” (21:20)
  • Value of mentorship and supporting newcomers in the industry.

[Notable Quote]

Crystal: “Great friends aren’t people that just tell you, you good at everything. This one... will be like, I don't know about that shit, bro...” (23:02)

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10. The Importance of Ownership (LaRussell)

• LaRussell, the independent artist, speaks on creative control:
  • “You don't have the ability to fully execute your vision if you don't own it... Ownership allows you to move from your heart.” (23:28)

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11. Pausing to Breathe & Receiving Wisdom (Kiki Lane)

• Kiki Lane reflects on advice from Regina King:
  • “She just said, 'Breathe.' ’Cause, you know, we get to going and going and going, and... forget.” (24:25)
• Discussion on the importance of breath, pausing, and self-care in ambitious circles.

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12. The Power of Community, Fatherhood, and Being Present (Marco)

• Marco, a comedian and father, on impact:
  • “Being something you never had. ... When my dad got killed, it just showed me to be there for my kids, because I knew how it was not to have a father.” (26:51)
  • Stresses building genuine connections and being present for loved ones.

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13. Independence, Community & Giving Back (Mýa)

• Mýa describes building her independent career:
  • “Since end of 2007—been producing projects independently through my own label... an educational journey... empowering.” (28:50)
• On philanthropy and giving back: “Community to me means a reflection of self... The simplest thing is your gift. Each and every one of us.” (29:33)

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14. Vulnerability in Storytelling & Representation (Michael Cooper Jr.)

• On embodying his character in Forever on Netflix:
  • “When I got the script... He has one foot in confidence, the other foot in insecurity... He's such a vulnerable dude. Through that character, I was able to become more vulnerable, more in tune with my feelings.” (31:54, 32:04)
• On representation and learning from castmates:
  • “To work with these people who I've seen on my screen for so long. It's like, what is going on?” (33:07)

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Notable Quotes & Moments by Timestamp

• Angie Martinez on podcasting vs. radio:
  “The podcast is like, you know, we're talking about real, real things... lessons... ways that we got to the other side of things.” (01:04)
• Angie Martinez on positivity in the industry:
  “Being positive and trying to take the high road and do right by people... that just feels better.” (01:54)
• Kaiser on faith and calling:
  “God’s the only reason why I’m on this journey, to be honest.” (06:07)
• Kirk Franklin on his new song and spiritual amnesia:
  “It’s so easy to forget what God did because you come up to another problem...if he did it before, he’ll do it again.” (08:47)
• Major on prayer and hope:
  “If [Chadwick Boseman] had the audacity to hope for the world while he was going through his own thing, I think I can lock in on that, too.” (13:01)
• LaRussell on ownership:
  “You don't have the ability to fully execute your vision if you don't own it. ... Ownership just...allows you to move from your heart.” (23:28)
• Kiki Lane on Regina King's advice:
  “She just said, 'Breathe.' ’Cause, you know, we get to going and going and going, and... forget.” (24:25)
• Marco on fatherhood:
  “Just being there for, like, being something you never had... when [my dad] got killed, it just showed me to be more about for my kids.” (26:51)
• Mýa on independence and community:
  “Community to me means a reflection of self... the simplest thing is your gift.” (29:33)
• Michael Cooper Jr. on vulnerability in acting:
  “He's such a vulnerable dude. And through that character, I was able to become more vulnerable, more in tune with my feelings.” (32:04)

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Key Takeaways

• Authenticity and vulnerability are celebrated as keys to personal fulfillment and professional longevity.
• Faith and service are recurring themes, serving as foundational principles for guests navigating challenges.
• Mental health awareness, self-care, and boundaries are critical in high-pressure industries.
• Ownership and independence empower artists to pursue and maintain their truest visions.
• Community, legacy, and giving back are positioned as pathways to meaning and resilience.

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Memorable Moments

• Angie Martinez’s warmth and humor about being on the “other side” of the mic (00:26)
• Kirk Franklin’s analogy about “spiritual amnesia” (08:47)
• Major recounting the influence of Chadwick Boseman on his hit song (13:01)
• The playful, genuine rapid-fire “this or that” game with Lee Vassey (03:56)
• Michael Cooper Jr. and Crystal's in-depth actor-to-actor exchange on craft and vulnerability (31:12)

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Conclusion

This episode is a powerful mosaic of insight, faith, laughter, and candor. Through honest storytelling and community, Crystal Renee Hayslett and her guests demonstrate that keeping it positive isn’t just a motto—it’s a practice and lifestyle. Whether you’re in the entertainment world or not, these conversations offer tools for anyone seeking inspiration and authenticity on their own journey.

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Transcript

[A]

Hey, sweeties. I'm so glad you enjoyed BET Media House part one, but there is more. We're about to drop part two. There are so many gems dropped, and I hope you enjoy it. Kip's family, we are at the BET Media house for the 25th BET Awards, and I have with me right now the iconic, the beautiful Angie Martinez. Hey, sweet. What's up, mama? Nothing much. How you feeling? I'm so happy to have you on the couch. Now I get to be on this side. Yes. Last time you was on. On that side, I was in the hot seat. Yes. So you have your podcast in real life at Angie Martinez. What has been something for me? Because I know for me, with doing my podcast, I've learned things about myself. It's almost therapeutic. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. How has that been for you? Because it forces you to frame the way you think about things. Yes. Because you got to have something to say about the thing. So it forces you to be like, how do I really feel about this? Right. As you're talking about it? Yeah. For me, too. I talk less about my personal stuff on the radio. Radio is, like, about, you know, what's trending topics and what artists are doing and music and. But the podcast is like, you know, we're talking about real, real things. Yeah. Lessons. Real, like just light bulbs and ways that we got to the other side of things, just with the things we learn in real life. Yeah. And so that requires me to. To be honest about things. And so. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. Interest. It's an interesting. It is. For sure. Yes. We're all about positivity here. Keep it positive. By the way, I told you already, this. I love the name of this. Thank you. It was funny I. To change it at one point. Asana was like, no, you cannot. So good. Thank you. I hear the name. I know exactly where I stand. I feel comfortable sitting with you. I know. You know, there's no, like, if. If somebody didn't know your. The platform on the pod. That name lets, you know, out the gate with the B. Yes. Yes. How have you been able to keep it positive in a. In an industry that has been so negative and chaotic at. Sometimes. Sometimes it's really hard. Yeah. I don't know that. My whole career, I have always. I definitely have fell victim to, like, getting hotheaded or upset about something or maybe react overly reactive to things, but that never feels good. Yeah. Right. You know what I'm saying? Ultimately, being positive and trying to take the high road and. And do right by people and that just feels better. Yeah. So I just try to do that as much as I can. I love it. Yeah. Sometimes people get under your skin. Yes. Um, but, you know, life is short, man. Yeah. You do bad things, bad things happen. I really believe a karma I have, you know? I believe a God. Yeah. Want to piss him off in any way? Same. Yes, absolutely. Like, I'm one of those people, too. Like, if I were to do something that was not positive. Yeah. And not the right thing to do, I would immediately feel the blowback of that. Definitely. I feel you. I'm the same way. Immediately. I could get sick. I could just say something's gonna happen. I. Immediate blowback. Because I know better. Right. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I do something I wasn't supposed to do, I immediately. It's gonna hit me in the time. I'm with you on that. So I just. It's easier to do the right thing. Yeah. No, for sure. What's up, kids? Family? I have someone with me that we all know because she's already been on the sofa. The one, the only, Lee Vassey. What's up, boo? Hey, girl. Yes. So I would love to ask you. We always talk about positivity here on Keep it positive. Sweetie, what is one way that you've kept it positive during this season?

[B]

One way I've kept it positive during the season is I've started to work out.

[A]

Okay. I've now become a Pilates girly. Oh, my. Pilates is everything, girl. And it's become a big part of, you know, my weekly, you know, day.

[B]

To day things that kind of keep.

[A]

Me grounded and, you know, keep me taking care of my temple, you know? So that's a huge addition, you know.

[B]

To my day to day.

[A]

I love that. I love that. Before you get out of here, I want to play a quick game of this or that. Okay, let's do it. You ready? All right. Pray first or journal first?

[B]

Pray.

[A]

Audiobook or paperback?

[B]

Paperback.

[A]

Me too. I love the smell of paper. We were just talking about this. I love the smell of paper. It's something about, like, just flipping the pages. Flipping the pages and highlighting. Yes. Yeah. I'm that girl, too. Rise in car in silence. A ride with music blasting.

[B]

You know, I used to be silenced.

[A]

But I just got a new car and I love the sound system. Listen, I gotta listen to the album in the car. You gotta ride to it? Listen. No. Like, anytime I do music, I have to get in the car and see how it feels when I'm riding. Yes. And I gotta blast it as loud as it can go. Right. I love that. Are you the first to arrive or the last to leave? Probably first to arrive and first to leave. Yeah, that's me. I'm like, I'm going to get there so I can get out. Right, right, right. I love that. All right. Let it slide or we ride it. D. I know. For me, I ain't letting it slide. I. So I don't believe in D. In the dying at all, actually. Right. I believe in. I know this is a this or that. Right. But it's like, I believe in grace, but I'm not about to die for you, so it's kind of like I'm like, somewhere in the middle. Right. It's wearing them, right? Yeah. I love it. Positive Patty or Negative Nancy? Positive Patty. I know this one. Yes. Cause we would keep it positive, sweetie. Hello. Oh, my gosh, y'. All. I first laid eyes on this woman on Instagram, was instantly obsessed. Then I got to meet her and get to know her. The beautiful Kaiser. Hi, gorgeous. Hi.

[B]

I'm so excited to be here.

[A]

I am so excited. When I saw you coming in, I was like, we gotta get her on the couch. Yeah. How are you feeling? I'm good.

[B]

You know, this is new territory for me, you know, new people, new environments. But definitely feel like God's placed me here, and to be surrounded around people like you is just more fulfilling.

[A]

Oh, y', all. I love that. I love that you have a personal relationship with God. I'm really big on faith, and I'm really big on talking about it here. On. Keep it positive, Sweetie. How has God guided you through, like, even this transition where you're, like. You're embarking on different territories? How has that journey been with Him?

[B]

Yeah, I mean, he's the only reason why I'm on this journey, to be honest. If it were to leave it up to me, Lord knows I would probably be keeping myself one dimensional, being able to see the gifts that he has given me and to utilize Him. I think that's the gift that I. I am able to give back to Him.

[A]

I love it. I love it. And I pray that God continues to blow your mind. You are so deserving, likewise as well. Thank you.

[B]

I can see him all on you.

[A]

Thank you so much. Same, same. I'm really big on mental health, and so are you. And how. Has. I know, like, probably within the past four or five years, mental health has become really big in our community. Whereas we were just kind of trained to, like, push things Aside and keep pushing. How have you been able to find those moments to really deal with your mental health?

[B]

Yeah, I think me making the ultimate decision when I was at the height of my career so young, when I was a rookie coming in, you know, I was a top five pick and I had chose to walk away from the game even though I had spent my whole life working up to this moment and it didn't feel what I thought it would be because of all the trauma that I've endured. Things just trying to sweep underneath the rug to go play the games, you know, I had just lost my, my father right before I got drafted in the middle of the season, showed up the next day, kept playing like just things that behind closed doors people didn't know about. And when I saw myself on a billboard and when I would come home, I realized I was living a double lifestyle. And that's when I realized I'm like, okay, I'm going to choose me instead of choosing the world. And this is when I started learning about mental health. Now it is part of like my boundaries. I need my solitude. I need to have time with myself. I need to recharge and check in. Lord knows I'm Leo coated. So I appreciate my alone space. But the better that I am, the better I can be for others around me.

[A]

That is so true. That is so. I agree with you wholeheartedly. I am with none other than 20 time Grammy Award winning my brother Kirk Franklin.

[C]

What's going on, Crystal? That's your theme music.

[A]

That's it. We're going to keep that sound bite that's going to be at the beginning of season eight.

[C]

That's going to be horrible. Good to see you, Queen.

[A]

You too. Love. How you feeling?

[C]

Good. I'm good.

[A]

Good. It's always good to see you. You always have the best energy. How you feeling today?

[C]

I'm good. I got up, did my cardio this morning so my anxiety levels are down.

[A]

Right, right, right. You have a new single. I feel like, do you live in the studio? Because you stay on top of it. You're always coming out with new music. You're always collaborating. I love it. You got a new single? Yeah. Let's talk. I saw you in the car playing it for Tammy. That was so cute.

[C]

Thank you. Yes. Called do it again. And you know, for people to have spiritual amnesia, it's so easy to forget what God did because you come up to another problem and it's like I'm panicking and panic and panicking and someone like God is like Bro, didn't you just see me pull up the last situation?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But, you know, our fears won't allow us to hold on to those memories, and so hopefully this song does the job of reminding us.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

That if he did it before, he'll do it again.

[A]

He'll do it again, and he will. That is so good. Because we do get spiritual amnesia. That's real.

[C]

And we all do.

[A]

Oh, my goodness. We all do.

[C]

I do. We all do.

[A]

That's so good. I love that I'm gonna have to use that, because I know for me, I definitely, like, as soon as something crazy happens, my first instinct is to panic. Like, oh, gosh. Not remembering how many times he's brought.

[C]

You out, and you got a history with him, and we still do it, so. And what's so beautiful, though, is that he don't throw us away because of that.

[A]

He sure. Come on, now. He does not. He doesn't. He does not. I have with me a woman that is near and dear to my heart. The one and only Ms. Kimberly Paige. How are you doing? I'm so excited for you and to be here. And you look amazing as always. Thank you. You too. I'm serious. Like, the fashions. You are, like, the epitome of class. No, seriously. Yes. No, you are, like. I just wish I could be as ladylike as you. Oh, please. Because you walk in and just like. Like, your feet don't touch the ground. Like, it's an inner spirit. I love it. It starts from within. I love it. No, that is amazing. No, you do it very well. Thank you. I'm gonna get there. I'm working on it. I really am. In this stage of my life, I'm working on being more ladylike and exuding my soft girl air and softness. So I'm trying to get there. Yeah, you're there. But a lot of people do not know that you are literally the heartbeat behind everything that happens at bet. You so into so many people, a lot of things that you see happening that are big. You're the person that's signing off saying, yes, let's support them. How did you come to be the Kim Page that everyone knows now? You know, I think for me, I've always been. I have a spirit of service. Does that make sense? Yes, ma'.

[C]

Am.

[A]

And so as I'm thinking about anything, whether it's, you know, work, my family, my friends, my team. Yeah. I try to come and center from that.

[B]

That space of service.

[A]

And I think when you're willing to serve, great leaders have to be. Yeah. I love that. This next guest, y' all have seen him on the kip sofa. He is my friend, my brother. I love him so, so much. He hit me today. He said, asis you at that media house. And I said, yeah. He said, I'm pulling up and he is here. Major, what's happening? How are you, my love?

[D]

It's so good to see you in your light.

[A]

Thank you.

[D]

You are light. But it's good to see you spotlighted and you have a whole corner. You don't get corners in the media house unless you're doing something.

[A]

Somebody else said the.

[D]

I wanna be clear. This is called favor. It's called God said, now is your time and you're showing up and showing up.

[A]

I love you. Thank you so much. Let's talk about everything you have going on. I prayed for you. Number one, two weeks in a row. That's right.

[D]

That's right. That's my new new.

[A]

That's my new new.

[D]

And I'm super excited. So I prayed for you. Just went number one on Billboard A gospel airplay. More specifically, why I Love youe went platinum. And the thing as an independent artist whose mama named a major. The journey is very unpredictable, and oftentimes the things that you expect to happen happen out of order. And it's kind of wild, but out of order from how I planned it.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

You know what they say? Give God your plans and you make laugh.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

So it's. It's crazy that, you know, years later, I get my first ever number one on Billboard with a song about prayer.

[A]

Yes.

[D]

And, you know, to talk about that song, Crystal, it came by way of a text message that Chadwick Boseman sent me. He said, At 10:45 Eastern Standard Time on April 4, 2020, let's collectively pray for the hope of the world. Because people are drowning in a sea of hopelessness.

[A]

Yes.

[D]

From their mindset on how to heal, how to recover from COVID 19, the civil unrest in the land. And I didn't know that my brother would be passing four months later. But my thing is, if he had the audacity to hope for the world while he was going through his own thing, I think I can lock in on that, too.

[A]

Yeah. That's beautiful. But no, I am so proud of you. You have been very open about the ups and downs of this industry and the impacts that it had on your life.

[C]

Absolutely.

[A]

And you work so hard, and you want to be noticed and you want to be awarded for your good works, you know, and, like, it's like, you were almost there so many times, and now it's like God is like, yo. You know what I'm saying?

[D]

You know what it feels like when you've been on this journey of hoping and wishing and believing and sacrificing and giving? And when you're in a season as you are, it's a perpetual rollout. Only a God like our God can plan a rollout like that.

[A]

Only.

[D]

But it's like church said amen.

[A]

Y' all heard.

[D]

Did the church say amen?

[A]

The church said amen.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Y' all know what I'm talking about. Literally, it has been perpetual. I saw you. Yeah, I've had you. I got you.

[A]

Yes.

[D]

Berklee College of Music, my alma mater, just inducted me into the hall of Fame. I got the number ones for two weeks in a row. Um, there's just so many things. Tamron Hall. I do her one show, and then she's like, can we bring you back next month? I'm like, yes, yes. And I stayed at the hotel that I knew you. I said, I know what hotel that is. I ain't gonna tell em. We don't know. We don't give our secrets away.

[A]

Hotel. You know, that was my first time staying there. Cause the one I usually stay at was there was some tech conference going on.

[D]

But that one, that one, it hits it.

[A]

Oh, yeah. And they upgraded me to this. Like. Like. Oh, you got upgrade. Yeah, I got a little living room and a bedroom set. A little corner thing where you open up the Hudson.

[D]

You might have had my room, right?

[A]

You like that? Sounds very familiar. That thing was nice. I walked. I said, this is. This is nice.

[D]

But it's the fun thing. The beautiful thing is when we take a beat and just let God be God, he shows us that he's the master curator.

[A]

Yes.

[D]

Of answered prayers, of blessings, of I see you. I got you. When I say yes, nobody can say no, no. That's what we're living with and that's what we're living in. So I'm excited about it.

[A]

I'm so excited for you. You deserve everything. When I say I love you, I truly love you. I'm always rooting for you. You have a heart of gold.

[D]

Thank you so much. As do you. And I enjoy seeing you win.

[A]

Thank you so much. What's up, y'? All? Kiss Family Day 2 at the BET Media House. And I'm sitting here with my good sis, Shamia Morton. What's up, boo? Hey, best friend. How you, Desi? How you doing? I'm Excited to hang out with the Kibbs family. Anytime I get an invitation to come hang out with y', all, I am jatting it over. We love you, like, so much. So much. So the last time we talked, you had just gotten your peach. Yes. The season had not dropped yet. So how is that going now on the Real Housewives of Atlanta? Oh, my goodness. When I tell you there have been such high highs and low lows, it's been insane. I mean, I started out, it was amazing, and, you know, I was like, oh, we love Shamia. And then I was in the hot seat for, like, three weeks. They're like, oh, she's Portia's lapdog. She's, you know, all these things. I'm like, oh, please, just give me a break, people. Yes. When I say they were giving it to me, but what it it gave me is thick skin. There you go. And I was like, you know, it made me like, I gotta stay out the Cummins. But now I'm back in a good place with our fans. I love that. I love that. Such a wave, such an emotional rollercoaster. We just finished shooting our reunion. Oh, wow. That's always exciting. Which had me with such anxiety. Like, it's crazy because you never know what's gonna happen. You never know what's gonna happen. You never know who's gonna come for you. You also have to recap 16, 17 episodes. You have to recap an entire year in one day. And it's a very long day. I wanna say. It's like a 12 hour shoot. Oh, wow. Yeah. That's exhausting. It's exhausting. And even leading up to it, it's just emotionally draining because you're like, you live some dark moments on tv, then you have to watch them, and the second time you see it and union is the third time that you relive it. And so it's like reliving something more and over and over again is just overwhelming at times. But I'm so happy I survived it. I survived my first season. A peach on it. Thank you. So when people I started out, the season said it was sweet 16. Sweet 16. I'm so excited. Sweet 16. Yeah. And I'm ending the season saying a bittersweet 16. You know, it's had its bitter moments, and it's had. It's had its sweet moments, but I would not change any of it. I have no regrets. Good. That's all that matters. It's Krysta Renee Hazlett, and I have with me the legendary Salt. Hey, hey, girl. How are you? I'm great. I'm great. I'm fangirling out inside because I can't believe you're sitting here. Thank you. Congrats to you on all your things. Thank you. You're doing all the things. I'm loving it. Keeping it positive. Oh, thank you so much. It's my vi. Leave it positive. That's right. Is allowed. So this is the 35th year anniversary of your album Black Magic. How does that feel? To 35 years. Yeah. You know what we always say, salt and pebble bought fun, fashion and femininity to hip hop. Sure did. We were authentically ourselves and I feel like that's why we lasted this long. Also made timeless music. So it feels amazing. Did I think it would be to this level still all these years later? No, so. Cause it definitely is. I appreciate it. It's kind of surre. It is. You know, there's salt and there's Cheryl. Right? I'm Cheryl. Yeah. I'm like, salt. Be killing it out here in these streets. Right? It's amazing. She's amazing. She is amazing. I love that. And you also have some solo music. Can you tell us what you're working on? Yes, I'm working on some personal music. Just about my journey. Just sharing with the ladies some things that I've been through. Is very personal, kind of testimonial and also fun. Just expressing myself as an artist still. That's amazing. That is what we do. And that's what resonates. And that's what resonates. And people want the music. Yes, they do. They want to hear your stories because that's how they connect with you. Yeah. Yeah. I love that for you. And I am so excited about the awards. I cannot wait to see you rock the stage. You're going to kill it. And congratulations on everything. It's going to be a moment. It will be. Yes. You're welcome. Thank you so much. And I have with me none other than the director of Zatima. You may see me on that. He is the writer of the latest season of Sisters. He also has a short film that's going to be presented at many film festivals, starting with ABFF this coming up week, the Old Gray Mayor, starring Deval Ellis and Ty Lepley.

[C]

Charnell Brown.

[A]

Oh, my gosh.

[C]

Yes, yes, yes. People know her ass.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Kimberly Reach from different. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

So, so good. So let's get into it. We also have a film coming out soon that we're going to make together called A Love we give y' all that little sneak tip right there. So talk to me.

[C]

I'm excited.

[A]

Tell me what you are most excited about in this season of your life. Everything has literally skyrocketed. I love.

[C]

I love. What? Yeah. Because I love is. I know. So the thing is, I've always had to make films with what I had, not what I wanted. So, like, per. You know, like, I. I saw you on Zatima. I saw the things that you do. I saw what you've done on film. And honestly, some of the things that people you guys get to see aren't the things that. That's not all the shots. So I get the opportunity to see her in a light to where y'. All. It might not make that particular cut, to where she cries. She's happy, she's sad, and all of that. And I saw something in her that made me want to bring her into a part. So now I had the opportunity to choose the actress that I want, and we built such a great relationship. This will be the first time that I'm working with somebody, one that I love and I respect, and we get to do this dance. I'm really, really excited to do this because now I can show who Courtney is versus kind of, like, pulling tooth and nail, trying to make money for this and adjusting. I don't have to adjust.

[A]

Right.

[C]

So, yeah, now they get to really, really see it. So I'm excited for this, and I'm.

[A]

Excited for them to see who Crystal is as an actor, because I think this will be the first time I'm actually able to, like, really, like, take time and cultivate a character.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Really build it up.

[C]

This ain't the crystal that y' all are seeing. Just to be very clear, this ain't the same crystal. So. So. And I guarantee I'm not doing it now because we gonna tell them I'm gonna end up talking about something. We gonna spoil it. You'll talk about later.

[A]

Y' all gotta tune into the next episode.

[C]

You know what I'm saying? No, no, it's gonna be great, though. But that's my. That's what I'm excited about this year.

[A]

You know, for you, and I'm proud of you.

[C]

Oh, thank you, man.

[A]

So proud of you and everything that you're doing. It seems like we just met a year ago.

[C]

Yeah. Up.

[A]

You're out of this world.

[C]

Yeah. Nah, it's. It's up. And again, like, I. I think I do give a lot of credit to you of shepherding me into what the Tyler Perry universe was going to be like. And all of this shit. Like, this ain't. You know. You know what I'm saying? But just hit me, checking on me, making sure that I'm good. The one thing that you guys need in this industry, especially when you're entering it, is somebody that's a veteran into it, that can tell you what corners to turn, what corners, and who to stay away from. You know what I'm saying? So you've definitely been there for me.

[A]

That's real. I'm always. Keep it real.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Ain't gonna call you and tell you, hey, this. This hill. I don't know about this one. I don't know about this one.

[A]

You know what I love about you is that you take. You take my advice. You hear me? Either if you. You can throw it away or you can keep it, but you hear me. Absolutely. Every time.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I want to be better, man.

[A]

Like, I want you to be the best. And, like, I'm gonna let you know. Hey, bro. Cause I. I know what you're capable of. I know who you are.

[C]

Great friends. Ain't people that just tell you, you good at everything. This one. To be like, I don't know about that shit, bro. Like, I don't. I don't know if you should. Yeah. So you know what I'm saying? It's good to have you in my corner always.

[A]

I appreciate you. And I have with me none other than LaRussell.

[C]

Yeah, her.

[A]

What's going on? Yeah, her. How are you feeling? I'm. Well.

[C]

I feel great.

[A]

I love talking about ownership. What is the impact of ownership, and what does it mean to you?

[C]

You don't have the ability to fully execute your vision if you don't own it. Cause there's always somebody that could tell you no. And sometimes your vision is just based on how you feel. You don't have data or anything to prove it. It's just like, I want to do this because this is what feels good to me. And it's hard to do that when you don't have control or reign over what you create and what you do. So ownership just. It means a lot because it just allows you to move from your heart.

[A]

I love that. I love that. It's your girl, Krystal Renee Hayslett. And right now I have with me Kiki Lane. Kiki, what's up? Beautiful, man.

[B]

I'm so happy to be here.

[A]

Yes. Is this your first BET Award? It is. It is. How Exciting is that.

[B]

It's amazing.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I love us. I love celebrating us. So when I can be in that room. Yeah, I'm most happy.

[A]

What has been, like, some of the lessons that you learned during this time?

[B]

You know, the first thing that popped in my head was something that Regina King said to me. It was actually. She was presenting the Essence Black Women in Hollywood award to me. And I got up on the stage, and she knows me so well. She could tell I was freaking out. And she just said, breathe. Oh, she just said, breathe.

[A]

Breathe. Yeah.

[B]

Cause, you know, we get to going and going and going, and it's like this. We forget.

[A]

Yeah. I was at a retreat, and the lady who was doing, like, our session, she said we live in a world of shallow breathers, and we don't even realize. We don't take deep breaths because we're. Like you said, we're just going, going, going. Yes. That's so important to just breathe. Yeah.

[B]

There. Everything else can grow, but it always starts with your breath.

[A]

Yeah. I love that. And I have one of my favorite people. He is so funny. I love him on Instagram. This is my. Actually, we met at a Hawks game. I don't know if you remember. Cause you kind of looked at me.

[C]

Like you might know who you are.

[A]

Okay. Cause you kind of looked at me like you didn't know who I was. I was like, no.

[C]

It's like sometimes it's like. It's just. It was just, like, in shock. I'm still in shock to be able to be in rooms with, you know, great people.

[A]

I feel you. No, I. I still pinch myself. I was on the plane the other day, and a lady, her daughter recognized me, and she sat next to me. She goes, are you famous? And I'm like, It hasn't really sunk in.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Because it's like, I'm just Crystal.

[C]

You look famous. Like, you can, like. You know, I worked at Popeyes. Imagine, you had Popeyes. Like, what's she doing here? That's when, you know, you just look famous. Somebody asked me.

[A]

You're so sweet, Marco. Charming.

[C]

Yeah. I use that line on a lot of people. It works.

[A]

It works. You are so funny. So what. What brought you to BET this weekend?

[C]

The airplane.

[A]

All sway. Stupid. That's why I put the cue card down. I don't even need a car with him. Sorry.

[C]

But you know what? I start to learn that just being in a room with people and leaving energy in moments are more important. You know, when you. When you come in your era and you build your Career. Sometimes you just think it's about your team setting things up. And also sometimes you think it's about money. But sometimes it's just better to meet people in real life and just leave moments with them. And you never know who you're running to and, like, start a relationship, and then y' all can start and, you know, and bring something to it and.

[A]

Build together from there. Yeah, I love that. I love that. So you have your father as well? Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And you're so beautiful.

[C]

Thank you.

[A]

Yes. Oh, my God. Gorgeous. What is it like balancing your life and then also being a father?

[C]

No, it's just being there for, like, being something that you never had. My ne was like a. He was. He was like, that guy. He was a drug dealer and stuff. So with him being in and out, and when he got. Like, when he got killed, it just showed me to be more about for my kids, because I knew how it was not to have a father, so I wouldn't be there for my kids. And I'm also a good stepdaddy. So, ladies, if you having any problems with your baby daddy, I can't. I'm the guy that come to. I be doing matching pictures and stuff. Yeah.

[A]

Oh. With the kids outfits and everything.

[C]

I really don't like when I talk to girls that got kids, I want their baby daddy to be out the way. Cause I'll be like.

[A]

Like, I'm trying to be the daddy.

[C]

I know that's ain't no time to be fighting nobody.

[A]

No, we too grown for that.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Y' all heard it here?

[C]

Yeah. No one wants stepdaddy. Yeah. You remember that song Stepdaddy? Yeah. That's it.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

That's. Yeah, that's you.

[A]

Yeah, that's how it was made up.

[C]

I like your flyers, too. I like how you carry yourself. And you very consistent.

[A]

Thank you.

[C]

It's like, you just.

[A]

I appreciate that it means a lot coming for you, because I really admire you. Your word.

[C]

Say that by everybody else.

[A]

No, don't.

[C]

So what if somebody has. Say. What's another answer you'll say if someone said, yeah, say the same thing.

[A]

Thank you.

[C]

Oh, okay. Okay. That's good. All right. Good pr.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

She clock. This is crazy.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Thank you. Oh, is he it? And I have with me one of my favorite people growing up, y'. All. I. I just love her. When I saw her, I was like, we have to interview her. The one and only Maya. How are you?

[B]

Hey, lady.

[A]

You look good. How are you? Good. Like, you literally have not aged thank you. You have not. We have all aged in many ways gracefully, honey. So what is it like to continue to work on your crafts?

[B]

I love touring. You know, I stay on the road. I'm an independent artist. I've been just producing a lot of projects since the end of 2007, independently.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Through my own label.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it's been a wonderful educational journey.

[A]

I bet.

[B]

And also empowering and then creatively very fun. So Give it to you comes out June 10, and it is basically a nod and a salute to all the music that I grew up to in my living room. It feels like my living room when.

[A]

I was a kid. Oh, I love that.

[B]

The funk of the 80s, the late 70s vibes. Prince, jam and Lewis, the Time, Mary Jane Girls, Patrice Rushing. All that and barbecue music. We're hitting the summer very soon. So it's a summer record. Roller skates, block parties.

[A]

Yes. Oh, me there need that. You are also big on philanthropy. What does community mean to you? What does it mean to give back?

[B]

Yeah. Well, community to me means a reflection of self. You know, we all had someone to hold our hand. We all came into this world pretty much incapacitated, without the ability to even hold our heads up.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Then we crawl, and then we stand, and then we walk, and then we run. And so to be that light for someone, or at least involve yourself, it makes life worth living. And then it's very rewarding to be able to affect someone's life for the positive and. And elevate. Because everyone has a purpose.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Each and every one of us. And the simplest thing is your gift. And we have many of those things.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

So we all come from a place of needing community. And it's also culturally a part of us that sometimes society interferes with. And that's the most functional part of life. When you are aligned with your community or you create that for others and be a light in this world that goes so far beyond what you could even imagine for sure. Just a conversation can change somebody's trajectory.

[A]

No. So that's what this podcast. Keep it positive. Keep it positive. Sweetie has been about. And, like, I didn't want to do it at first because I'm private, and I was like. But in order to do it, you kind of have to open up about who you really are.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And just talking about it has built a community of healings and growth. It's just been beautiful. So you are absolutely spot on with that. Yeah. Yeah. Kids, family. You guys have seen this next guest. You have binge watched his New show on Netflix forever. The one and Only Michael Cooper Jr. How are you doing?

[C]

I'm good.

[A]

I'm good. Thanks for having me.

[C]

I'm grateful.

[A]

Thank you. I was like, I literally lit up when you walked up. I read the name. I was like, oh, my God. I looked up and you were there. Let me just talk. I'm gonna give you your flowers right now. You were absolutely phenomenal in Forever. The way you captured your character, Justin, it just. I don't know, it was something about you. The way you just. He has a form of adhd, right? Adhd, the way you embody that.

[C]

Thank you.

[A]

Oh, my God. And it was so subtle.

[C]

Thank you.

[A]

But, like, you could it. Oh, it was so good.

[C]

Thank you.

[A]

Yes. From one actor to another, I was like, he really did the character breakdown and really figured out how to develop his character.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

He did it so well.

[C]

Thank you. Thank you.

[A]

Yeah. So talk about, like, I want to know, like, what was that process of bringing Justin to life?

[C]

Yeah. I mean, it really starts with the writing. So when I got the script, you know, Mar is very specific with her writing, which is so beautiful.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

And I just remember reading it. He has one foot in confidence, the other foot in insecurity. You know, he goes to a speech therapist, and he has adhd. All these different things that I thought, you know, I've never seen a guy like Justin on my TV screen before. And so I thought it was a challenge to step into and ultimately a gift. He's such a vulnerable dude. And through that character, I was able to be able to become more vulnerable, more in tune with my feelings. So it's a gift I'm grateful for.

[A]

I love that. I love that you guys have shifted the culture with this show. It's something that we needed to see. The family dynamic that you guys have shown on the show with your mom and dad. Oh, my God. Shout out Woody and. Oh, my God.

[C]

Best TV dad. Best TV mom.

[A]

Your mom. Oh, my God. I absolutely love Karen. She's phenomenal.

[C]

Beast.

[A]

Oh, my goodness.

[C]

Beast.

[A]

And it's. How lucky are you to work beside two icons? Like, they are phenomenal. Like, I'm sure you're, like, soaking so much up on set.

[C]

From Regina King to Mar, Rocket Kill to Anthony Hemingway, Garrett Pittman, Wood Harris, Lovey, Niall. Because I grew up watching even Lovey and Niall. So it's just to work with these people who I've seen on my screen for so long. It's like, what is going on?

[A]

You know?

[C]

But again, blessing.

[A]

Yes. What a blessing. Love that, sweeties. I hope you guys enjoy these moments just as much as I did because I sure enjoy sharing them with you. Well, you had to wait no longer. Season 8 is coming up next week. I know y' all have been waiting patiently, and I appreciate it. So make sure you tell a friend to tell a friend. Subscribe. And make sure you turn on those notifications because you do not want to miss it. I'll see you all next week.