Career, Personal Growth + Residuals w/ Jacob Latimore

Summary

Keep It Positive, Sweetie
Episode: Career, Personal Growth + Residuals with Jacob Latimore
Host: Krystal Renee Hayslett
Release Date: April 27, 2025

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Introduction to Jacob Latimore

In this inspiring episode of Keep It Positive, Sweetie, host Krystal Renee Hayslett welcomes multi-talented Jacob Latimore, an actor, singer, and songwriter renowned for his contributions to both the entertainment and music industries. The conversation kicks off with Jacob expressing his comfort after an extensive filming period for "The Shower," highlighting the demanding nature of his work commitment.

Early Career and Transition into Acting

Jacob shares his journey beginning at the tender age of eight, initially reluctant to pursue acting as his primary passion. He recalls, "Acting was something I wasn't even thinking about really. I believed I got a script handed to me," reflecting his early hesitations (02:13). However, his move to Atlanta proved transformative, exposing him to a vibrant community of peers engaged in various creative endeavors. This environment broadened his perspective, leading him to embrace acting after years focused on music.

Balancing Multiple Roles

At 28, Jacob deftly manages his roles as an actor and musician. He emphasizes the importance of consistency, stating, "You just gotta be consistent... You don't have to be the best doing what you do, but the ones that are consistent make it" (11:52). Jacob's dedication is evident as he juggles auditions, album recordings, and personal time, embodying the essence of perseverance and hard work.

Collaborations with Industry Icons

Jacob recounts his experiences working alongside legendary figures like Will Smith and Jamie Foxx. Reflecting on his time with Will Smith, he humorously shares, "I think I actually took a picture with him and then posted it online. And I got an email from production saying, hey, you need to take that down" (05:39). These interactions provided him with invaluable lessons in professionalism and maintaining positive energy on set, regardless of external pressures.

Consistency and Work Ethic

A recurring theme in Jacob's narrative is the significance of maintaining a steadfast work ethic. He discusses his regimented approach to balancing personal and professional life, ensuring he remains productive even during off days. "When you're around people who are consistent, it rubs off on you," Jacob notes (12:39), underscoring the impact of surrounding oneself with like-minded individuals.

Personal Growth and Survivor's Remorse

Jacob delves into the concept of survivor's remorse, a feeling of guilt associated with success and helping others. He advises, "I've learned to give some advice where I can... I can't force someone’s journey on them" (13:19). This introspection highlights his efforts to balance generosity with self-preservation, ensuring his growth isn't hindered by external demands.

Navigating Relationships in the Public Eye

The episode explores the challenges of maintaining personal relationships amidst fame. Jacob candidly discusses the difficulties of dating under public scrutiny, stating, "It's my life, you know? It's like... you learn to kind of just brush off certain things" (43:05). He emphasizes the importance of setting boundaries to protect one's personal life from the relentless gaze of fans and media.

Independent Music vs. Major Labels

Jacob passionately shares his views on the music industry, advocating for independence over major label constraints. "I understand the power of a major label, but I also understand the freedom of being independent," he explains (39:42). His approach involves strategic releases and leveraging social media to build his brand, demonstrating a savvy understanding of the modern music landscape.

Future Plans and Projects

Looking ahead, Jacob expresses excitement about expanding his creative horizons. He plans to delve deeper into scriptwriting, real estate investments, and traveling to gain new perspectives. "I'm looking forward to creating more on the film side... flipping properties in the next six months," he reveals (52:10). These ambitions reflect his commitment to continuous growth and diversification.

Listener Letter: Navigating Tough Relationships

In the Positive Outcomes segment, Jacob and Krystal address a listener's struggle with ending a long-term relationship for spiritual growth. Jacob advises, "When you see something, I'm like, yeah, I like that. Because in the industry, we're dealing with a lot of spirits," encouraging the listener to prioritize personal faith and well-being over enduring a draining relationship (56:09).

Rapid Fire Game: Insights into Jacob's Mindset

The episode concludes with a fun rapid-fire segment where Jacob shares spontaneous thoughts on various prompts. Highlights include:

• The Shy, Consistent: "Purpose. It's divine. Almost don't even understand it. Like, I'm still trying to figure it out" (61:24).
• Self-Care: "Therapy" (61:07).
• Loneliness: "An everyday learning curve" (61:15).

These responses offer a glimpse into Jacob's values and priorities, reinforcing themes of intentional living and personal development.

Conclusion: Key Takeaways

Krystal Renee Hayslett encapsulates the episode's essence, emphasizing lessons on survivor's remorse, the importance of consistent work ethic, and the necessity of setting personal boundaries. Jacob's journey serves as a testament to the power of perseverance, self-awareness, and the continuous pursuit of personal and professional growth.

Notable Quotes:

• "You just gotta be consistent... You don't have to be the best doing what you do, but the ones that are consistent make it." – Jacob Latimore (11:52)
• "When you're around people who are consistent, it rubs off on you." – Jacob Latimore (12:39)
• "Purpose. It's divine. Almost don't even understand it." – Jacob Latimore (61:24)

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Transcript

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Calling all my sweeties to the forefront, I'm your host, Chris Renee Hazlett. And this is the Keep It Positive Sweetie Show. Welcome to another episode of the Keep It Positive Sweetie Show. I'm your host, Krystal Renee Hayslett. And today we are joined by multi hyphenate talent. He is an actor, singer, songwriter, known for his virtual talents in both entertainment and music. Kiss family. Please welcome Jacob Lattimore. Jacob, thank you so much for coming.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Thank you for having me.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Finally. How you feeling?

[Jacob Lattimore]

I love these CB2 seats.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Go in and get you some. You know, we like a little affordable. Good price points. Comfortable.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Gotta keep it cozy.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yes, absolutely. Thank you. How you feeling?

[Jacob Lattimore]

I feel good. I feel good. Just back home. Been filming the shower for, like, eight months last year, so just enjoying home, you know?

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yeah.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Like, not leaving.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Not leaving. Tell me about it. It's always fascinating. Cause I'm in the Tyler Perry ecosystem, and we shoot 22 episodes in two weeks. Insane. And to hear you shooting for eight months, I'm like, what's that like? I feel like I would get bored, though. I'd be like, can we hurry up?

[Jacob Lattimore]

It's definitely a process. Like, we. If I'm not on set, I'm just at home studying those lines.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yes.

[Jacob Lattimore]

And then, you know, in the gym or, I don't know, doing something productive in between. But always staying on call, because you just never know.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Even on your off days, you never know if you bump something up, you gotta be ready.

[Jacob Lattimore]

This person didn't catch their flight or this person's s. We need to come in. So we are ensemble, so it's just like, gotta be ready.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

I love that show. It's so good. Shout out Lena and Luke James is one of my really good friends.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Shout out to Luke James.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

I just did a movie two years ago with Burgundy.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Oh, yeah. Burgundy baby. Her birthday is today.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Is it? Happy birthday, Burgundy. I know this will be after your birthday, but happy birthday, boo.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Yeah. Fire.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Love her, but. Yes. I love that show. But, Jacob, you have been doing this since you were 8 years old. Yeah.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Yeah.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

And you're 28 now.

[Jacob Lattimore]

28.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

So most of your life. Yep. So you. You got a lot of skin in the game. So I've only been doing this for, like, five or six years. So I need to pick your braid.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Nah. You doing that. You doing your thing.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

I'm trying, but I'm really proud of you. But how? Starting at a very young age, what is that journey been like to get to where you are now?

[Jacob Lattimore]

It's definitely been A lot different. Like when I was eight years old, acting was something I wasn't even thinking about really. You know, acting was like, I believe I got a script handed to me. Like they were auditioning for like the local like Lion King play. And they hand me a script. Like, yeah, they auditioning for Simba. Lil J, like, Lil J, Lil Jake. Man, you should do this, Lil Jake. You'll be cold. Lil Jasmine walking. He's like, lil, you be cold, Lil Jake. And I was like, nah, nah. I'm on the porch, like really making decisions on. I'm do this music thing first.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

At 8 years old, like, I'm like.

[Jacob Lattimore]

No, I'm going to do this music thing first. And then, and then I get into acting, you know, if that door open, whatever. So. But then I moved a couple years later, moved to Atlanta, still doing the music thing. And then I started finding other peers that weren't overthinking it. They were doing music, they were doing film, they were hosting, they were, you know, acting, whatever. And it just, I just opened my mind up a little bit more and just got more comfortable and just was like, you know what? I'm gonna do it, you know. And I found some acting classes and found my first agency out here. Shout out to Joy Purvis.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Oh, that was my first agency out here. I just love them.

[Jacob Lattimore]

And you know, she really believed in me and helped me get some really important projects that were pivotal. And me learning on how to be on set and how to read scenes and she would read those scenes with me too. Like it was dope. So that was a real hands on agent.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

And you don't get that a lot, you know.

[Jacob Lattimore]

And she had like her own self tape room and I was doing that. So moving to Atlanta was really just an eye opening experience. And that's just like a testament. You gotta be in an environment where you can thrive.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yes.

[Jacob Lattimore]

You know what I mean? So you gotta be around other people that are doing things that inspire you and make you check yourself. Like, oh, I'm overthinking, I could do. I ain't gotta quit doing that.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Absolutely. Don't box yourself.

[Jacob Lattimore]

You know what I mean? I could do that. And this, that's so true. Yeah. Atlanta has always just been home for me ever since then. We moved out here 20 2008.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Okay. So, yeah, I came a year after y'all. Yeah.

[Jacob Lattimore]

2000, 2008, 2009, something like that.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Okay. Yep. I came in 2009. I was in D.C. working on Capitol Hill.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Wow.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

And I was like, I saw all my friends out here thriving. I'm like, if they can do it.

[Jacob Lattimore]

I can do it. Yeah.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

And like, you, like, I wanted to do music. Like, that was my thing. And if acting, if music opened the door for other things, I was open to it. And then it kind of ended up being the reverse where acting ended up opening the door for music.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Yeah. And it's all tied in now. So now I meet a lot of musicians. Like, bro, I want to be acting.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yes.

[Jacob Lattimore]

You know, and I'm like, man, you know, you gotta. You just gotta get in there, get into acting classes. Like, I really. I really paid my dues too, with the acting. Like, I really got in class. I really did. Improv training.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yes.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Like, I really like, you know, but then also the on set experience was just alone. Like, was nothing like class either.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Nothing.

[Jacob Lattimore]

You know, you do the tongue twister. Yeah. Red leather. Yeah, leather. Red leather, yellow leather. Like, you get in there and sit sometimes city. Like, you can do all those things and learn these monologues, but nothing like that on set experience, where they changing the lines right in the middle.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

You have to be quick on your.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Page, you know, we want to change this line right here and do this line. And you got Will Smith looking at you. She's like, you can do it. And I'm like.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

He's like, yeah, yeah.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Like, no, why you changing my line all night? Right? But it's just. It's cool and it's a part of the process and it keeps us uncomfortable, you know, which is. Which is good for growth, right?

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Absolutely. I wanted to ask you about working with Will. Will Smith is like everybody's icon, you know, and our north star, especially in music and acting, we just. That's the place that we aim to go. What was it like working with him?

[Jacob Lattimore]

I was, you know, I ain't gonna lie. I was actually. I was fanned out. I ain't gonna lie.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

I can imagine.

[Jacob Lattimore]

I think I actually took a picture with him and then posted it online. And I got an email from production saying, hey, you need to take that down. He's in costume. Oh, yeah.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

That's a thing, you know. Oh, my gosh. I almost like that.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Yeah.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

So working with Jamie Foxx and I.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Learned a lot working with him and just watching him and also just seeing how. What it takes to be that level of a. Of a brand and a celebrity. Like, you know, he's just. It was. He was like, we outside filming in New York and he's gotta memorize his lines, but he got like, screaming fans on the corner and, you know, no telling what he's dealing with in his personal life and all these things. So it's just you just seeing it up close, and you're like, whoa, how famous do I want to be? You know? Exactly. And you're like, man, this is different level. Like, he has to. They gotta roll him into the car. I walked to see ain't nobody.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Both you like.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Yeah. Like Jaden. Jaden Smith.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Not Jaden. I'm Jacob.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Yes. I'm Jack. Went with it, whatever, you know, so. But it was like they. They had to roll him into set in the SUV and, like, let him out right where the camera was, you know, so he just. He had to move different, but he was all smiles, and he has good energy about it. So I definitely learned how to bring good energy to work.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Love that. That's important.

[Jacob Lattimore]

He shakes everybody's hand, and I was like, that's what I'm gonna do. You know, When I'm on set of the Shy, I always remind myself, like, I prayed to be here, you know, even though I'm tired today, I may not feel like it today. Like, I'm gonna come to set and come to the makeup trailer, come into the hair trailer with energy. And this is a good thing we're here. This is a luxury, you know, and.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

We'Re getting the best part of it as the actors, you know, and you have to be. I worked on the other side as well. I was costume designer with Herman. Herman was my supervisor. And understanding how tired they are as well. Like, we're all exhausted, you know, because they're taking care of us, and we're trying to deliver the lines and make the director happy.

[Jacob Lattimore]

But it's.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Everybody's pulling.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Everybody's pulling.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

So I love that you do that, and I love that Will was that example for you.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Absolutely.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Because sometimes our icons aren't the nicest, you know? And you're like, dang.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Yep. You're like, dang. I should have just kept it distant, right?

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Exactly.

[Jacob Lattimore]

But they're human. You start to give grace, too, because you realize everybody doesn't want to be that light. You know what I mean? That thing. You know what I mean? So it's like, hey, I don't want everybody to glorify me and be this. You know, that they want to just come to set, be treated normal. And I give grace to a lot of actors and actresses I meet, because you just never know. Well, you know, people are going through.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Absolutely.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Because we just. We reading these scripts, and we. This is Our lives. And we gotta keep this facade. And we have fans who fall in love, like, with the shows that we're on because they're in. We're in their households every day, every week. We feel like they know, you know, fans walk up to you, like, what's up? Hey, yo, I be watching your show.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

You know, hey, bruh, you got the.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Bruh. What happened?

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

For real, right?

[Jacob Lattimore]

So they really. It feel like we family to them. And you. You never want to disappoint anybody in their experience. So it's like, you're like, dang. Like, this is what I asked for.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

It is. Yeah.

[Jacob Lattimore]

You get a picture, man.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Come on.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Even though, like, I'm busted right now. I'm sleepy coming off the plane, like, whatever. Like, sleep all in the eye. It's cool. Yes.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

It's so funny because there are. I was just talking about this, actually, with Da Vinci, about how we can. We're human.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Yeah.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

First and foremost. But we can be having the worst day. But we always have to be on, you know, no matter what. Because you want that moment with that fan to be the best moment. Because I know what it's like to meet somebody that I just adore and like, oh, my gosh. I just love everything you do. And they were, like, completely mean. It's like, yeah. Oh, my goodness.

[Jacob Lattimore]

You have a lot of yourself.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

You do.

[Jacob Lattimore]

It's tough. It's a tough balance. I'm at the point now if. If I know I'm not in the greatest mood, I just stay home.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

That's smart.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Stay home. Order in. You know, like, literally, like, just stay home. You know, like, it's me time. I'll go to the gym and go back home, walk the dog. Like, literally stay in the neighborhood. So that's the best thing for me to do when I know I'm like, today, ain't it? Right, right.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Exactly.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Not really answering the phone like that. You know what I mean? So it just. I try to refuel myself before I even step outside the door.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

That's good. So speaking of refueling and balancing, how do you balance between all the many hats that you wear?

[Jacob Lattimore]

I don't know.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

That was like. I'm still trying to figure that.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Like, this morning, I had two auditions before I came here.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Wow.

[Jacob Lattimore]

After this, I'm going to the studio tonight to finish some touches on my album. So it's like when you just love what you do, you kind of just. You just make time for it. You make time, you know, and you realize, like, hey, I'm the only one I'm the only one that has these opportunities, and this is what I pray for. And, like, what else. What else I got to do today?

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

You know what I mean?

[Jacob Lattimore]

Like, I really ain't got nothing else to do today. You know, I would just go home and chill with the dogs, watch movies. So let me record this record tonight. Let me get it done. Then I could go on vacation. There you go. You know what I mean? So really just. Just dedication. Really just, like, no matter how you feeling, just do it.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Just do it.

[Jacob Lattimore]

You know, creating that checklist. And sometimes it could feel like you just dragging yourself all day. And then when you finally sit down and look at the work you put in, you're like, whoa, this is years and years of work. Consistency.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Very consistent.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Yeah. And that's the. I feel like that's the name of the game with anything that you want to be successful in, you just gotta be consistent.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

And I feel like that's where a lot of people fall short. That makes the difference between making it and not making it is that consistency. You don't have to be the best doing what you do, but the ones that are consistent make it.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Nah. Like, when I'm in the gym for two weeks, three weeks straight, and I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm getting crazy. And you get. You start. You see. You feel like you got the results. So you go to Zaxby's because you got room, and then you lose all that two, three weeks over a short week or weekend, partying and kicking it, and then you like, oh, man, I'm back. I'm back, potbelly, I'm back.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

It don't take long.

[Jacob Lattimore]

You know what I mean?

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

It takes two weeks to get it out, but one chicken tender to get it back on you. Like, dang.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Yep, Yep. And it's just. That's what it's about. And I just try to surround myself around people who are consistent.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yes.

[Jacob Lattimore]

And just at this point, like, you know, friendships or even colleagues or just anything, if they. If people around me aren't consistent in what they doing or sticking by their word, it's kind of like, man, it's like, we gotta cut you off.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Listen.

[Jacob Lattimore]

No, I got to.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Because when they're not moving in the same direction, you are just like, all the people that are around you. And if you don't be very mindful and intentional about the people you're around, you'll be like, why am I acting? Oh, cause I'm around you a lot. Because they start to rub off on you.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Whether You.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Whether you're in that headspace or not. Yeah, it's like, it's inevitable.

[Jacob Lattimore]

And you try. And I think too, like, we. We got big hearts, so we try to. We try to help.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yeah.

[Jacob Lattimore]

We try to give insight. And I think all of that is cool. But I've learned to give some advice help where I can watch them. If it applied. If they applied it at all. I leave it at that. I can't. I can't force you to. I can't force your journey on you.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

You know what I mean?

[Jacob Lattimore]

I can only just lead by example and just through my actions. So I can give you what I can on the advice tip, but that's about it. If I'm on set and I'm saying, hey, bro, I think you should lock in more right here and here and here. But you're not accepted of it. And I'm like, I did what I could because, you know, I could be standing next to you and I could get. I could bite the bullets you biting. You know what I mean? Because I'm just trying to save you, and I can't because you're not receptive of what I'm saying, you know? And I think it took me a while to have that voice because I have been in the game since I was a kid. Like, my first film set, I was on when I was like, 11.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Wow.

[Jacob Lattimore]

This show called One Tree Hill. Oh, yeah. They did a few seasons, and Sophia Bush was the director of that episode. And I actually seen her pre Golden Globes parties. And every time I see her, she's like, wow. Like, I seen. I seen that spark in your eye at like, 8, 9, 11 years old, you know, so it took me a while to kind of have that voice of like, even just being the youngest in the room. If I'm in a room full of maybe up and coming actors who are maybe just getting their start at 21, 22, but I'm like 17, and I don't want to be the, you know.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

The guy to be like, like, hey.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Bro, you probably shouldn't do that. You know? Hey, like, you probably shouldn't move like that, you know? And it took me a while. I was kind of hesitant. I was always a little shy or scared, like, oh, man, they may not. They might think I'm be acting funny. I think I'm like, I don't know. I just. I just overthought it. And now if I have the opportunity to speak and if I see somebody that got, like, a lot of potential and I'm like, bro, like, you dope. Like, you could be more like, you don't let up, you know? And if I could tell them, I will, but if I feel like they're not receptive of it, I'm just like, I'm out.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Right. And the right person would be like, oh, thank you for seeing me. And I do want to lock in and do better. You know, most people will take. If they're in there for the right reasons and they have the right mindset, they would be grateful that you gave them that insight.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Yeah, yeah. And it's still room for me to grow. Like, my agent calls me, like, yeah, dude. Like, hey, like, watch these shows, like, mimic that stuff. Shout out to Dan. Dan Kim. We've been rocking since I was like 14, so. And just inspired by the two auditions I had today and they're just totally different and challenged me because I have been playing the shy for so long, so sometimes it's good for me to just get other auditions that even if I don't get the part, it's just a good exercise.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Absolutely.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Yeah. You know what I mean? For me to tap into different characters and stuff.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

I love that you spoke on being the only one and you opened up about survivor's remorse on the bets for the fellas. I want to dive more into that because that's something I love talking to my peers about because a lot of we are the ones that made it and we carry so much weight when it comes to that. How are you navigating that now?

[Jacob Lattimore]

Just saying no, you know, just like saying no where I need to say no, you know, and realizing that I have a track record of giving. I have a history of giving. And you shouldn't feel guilty because it's not like you're not a given person. It's not like I ain't got receipt right. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, I've helped you here.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yeah.

[Jacob Lattimore]

I helped you there. You know, you can't say I didn't help you there. Yeah. And I never. I would never ask for payback.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

No.

[Jacob Lattimore]

You know, and every time I give, I'm, you know, some family. I'm get you back. I'm like, listen, every time I give, I literally on to the next. I'm not even thinking about it. You hear, you have. If you find it somewhere in your heart and you got and you come up on some means to whatever. Cool. But I promise you I'm not thinking about it. Please, like, honestly, if you get. If you make up, if you make some bread. Invest in yourself.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Please, just do right by. So, yes.

[Jacob Lattimore]

You ain't got to make that call to me. You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? Like, you are not in debt over here. You know?

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

That's so the best thing you can do.

[Jacob Lattimore]

You know what I mean? So it's just. It took me a while. It took me a while to like, let go of that. That survivor's remorse and that guilt of just, like, feeling like I have to help everybody, you know, Or. Yeah, I'm behind on. I'm like, man, man, if I keep.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Helping y'all, I'm gonna be behind, you know?

[Jacob Lattimore]

And I don't think people realize the more. The more money you make, the bigger your expenses.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

The bigger expenses, the more Uncle Sam takes. We're not getting a refund check, you know, and we're paying him even more.

[Jacob Lattimore]

And it's like, I have goals. I have real estate goals. I have money I'm investing into. So, you know, on the outside looking in, it can be like, oh, he just. He was born. He was born rich. Cause he been.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

He been doing this forever.

[Jacob Lattimore]

He's been doing this since he was 8. Like, if I'm being honest, like, the real. Real income, like, really didn't come to my 20s, you know what I mean? Like, my. Like, as a teenager, I was like, it may have looked like. It may have looked like. But trust me, we were still figuring it out. And, you know, as. You know, as black people, we just. We make it look good.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yeah.

[Jacob Lattimore]

You know how to.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

We know how to make it look good.

[Jacob Lattimore]

You know how to make it look good.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Hello.

[Jacob Lattimore]

You know, so. And I'm at the space now. I just don't want to look good. I want to be good.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

I love that.

[Jacob Lattimore]

And when it's. When you want to be good, you got to say no. You know, I cannot. I cannot help you this in this season of my life.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Sometimes you have to say no to others, to say yes to yourself and yes to your future. Because, unlike a lot of people, our jobs are not promised. Yeah, it could be canceled tomorrow. God. You know, but, like, we have to do everything we can now to make sure we're set up for the future. Most people have some type of job security. You know, we don't have that, so we have to save for the rainy day.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Yeah. When they say, what's next? Like, what's next? Like, I don't know what's next.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

That's what I have to do. It's the pressure of Dealing with.

[Jacob Lattimore]

I don't know, like, thank God we're. I'm on a show that I can kind of like, I know we start in season eight, you know, but I can't just bank on that. They say they make. They could cancel the show. God forbid. Please don't. I'm not throwing that out there, but it's like, you just never know, you know? Like, we had a big film strike. You know?

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Like, did that not open your eyes?

[Jacob Lattimore]

Like, wow.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

I was like, oh, oh.

[Jacob Lattimore]

I got thankful for investing in that. I knew how to invest in real estate. I knew how to save some bread here and just stay at home and stop going to the club and spending frivolous money. Yeah. Sections is crazy.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

They are crazy.

[Jacob Lattimore]

You know what I mean? Bottles is crazy. Yeah. I can get the bottles at the house. I can create the vibe at the crib, and I can have my own shindig going. I can stand on my own couch. You know what I'm saying?

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

With your people. Right.

[Jacob Lattimore]

You know what I'm saying? So it's like my whole mentor has shifted in that space, and it's literally shown in every aspect of my life, Spiritually, financially, physically, mentally. I'm like this. Duh.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Duh.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Right.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

I love it. Duh. You also spoke about something that we have in common. I don't know if your relationship status right now, but you talked about loneliness. And sometimes loneliness is not a bad thing. I know for me gaining success, it was hard for me to find the right relationship that understood what all comes with this life. And even now, it's like, you date someone, they're like, oh, my goodness, you come with a lot. And it's a lot of amazing things. But they may not be used to the level of the amazing things. They're like, this is a lot. And then you're busy all the time. You're on the go, and you have to stay focused.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Yeah.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

What was the moment where you realized, wait, being lonely is not a bad thing? Or it's not lonely, it's just being in solitude and by yourself.

[Jacob Lattimore]

I just come from a big family. I grew up in a house where my dad and my grandfather was in one house, really. You know what I mean? Like, all my uncles, all my cousins. So I come from that type of household. When I was to leave school, like, the whole family was in the house lit eating dinner. We had big breakfasts. We had. You know what I mean? And as I get older and people are going through their own things and whatever. So I was just like, oh, Man, I can't bring everybody into my world because it just don't work. It don't work like that. It don't fit. And you know, when it don't fit, you know, Cause like doing. Doing business with a bunch of family can work. When it works.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yes.

[Jacob Lattimore]

You know, like the weigh ins. It works.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

It works. Yes, it works.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Ball brothers. It works.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yes, yes.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Smith family. Works, works. It does don't work over here. Listen, it don't work for me, you know, and my mother is, you know, she got my back the most.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yes, yes. She manages you, right?

[Jacob Lattimore]

Yep. Real hands on. Like, she's pretty much everything, like, you know, assisted making, sure schedule's laid out, you know, secretary. Oh, everything, everything. I love that. That works. That works. Yeah. When. You know, when it works, it just. You gotta. You gotta keep it at that. And. Yeah, so that was. It was some hard decisions to make on. On that side of just like the family business. And it doesn't mean I can't have a relationship with my family. It just mean that, hey, my business is a whole nother arena, you know?

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

It is.

[Jacob Lattimore]

I come to see you, I'm gonna say I'm gonna check on you. How you doing? I love you.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

I love.

[Jacob Lattimore]

I gotta get to work.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yes.

[Jacob Lattimore]

I love y'all. I see you. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. You be good, man. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Get them grades up.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yes.

[Jacob Lattimore]

No, no, I see. You know, exactly. Can I get it?

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

No, no, no, I gotta get. All right.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Hey, can you face all. No. Can you face all out? No, no.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

I be looking crazy. My cousin, like, I want some work. She on the nice sh. She didn't believe you was my cousin. I'm over there looking, I'm like, girl.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Can I pull up on set? No, absolutely not. Absolutely not. All these harassment. We gotta take harassment class. You don't know what. You don't know what we learning. You can't just be. No, no, I'm not bringing you.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

This is not playtime. This is the big league.

[Jacob Lattimore]

This is the big league. It's game on.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yes.

[Jacob Lattimore]

You know what I mean? So, you know, it's just. It's a big shift and people would think you acting funny. You know, it's like, oh, bro, like you tripping because I ain't answering the phone because I gotta play a scene where I'm depressed.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yeah, I need to get in there. I can't talk to you. I'm depressed, literally.

[Jacob Lattimore]

You know what I'm saying? So it's just like, it's those Things. And those scripts that come in that force you to lock in, it is. You know, and that's the. I mean, I wouldn't even say. That's just. And actors, any. Anything you want to do in life, like, if you want to be a gymnast, if you want to be a lawyer, it takes that. You got to clock in. You do, you know? And I also learned. I've also learned how to close the office, too. Like, at home, I got my office. And then, like, I really try to be out of the office by 5 or 6 o'clock in the evening.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

That's good.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Where I'm like, all right, don't say that too loud.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Don't get no ideas, y'all.

[Jacob Lattimore]

You know, but you set your own times up. Like, every day might be different. You know what I mean? You may. A little later. Like tonight. Tonight, one of them nights. Yeah, we gonna be here.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

We're gonna be here for a minute.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Because I've had to. I've had to run scenes till 1am, 2am before with a 9am call to set, because.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yes.

[Jacob Lattimore]

And, you know, you have to make those decisions, but I've also just. Just learned on when to turn it on, when to turn it off. For me, that's good. So I could. So I could be ready for the next day.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Exactly.

[Jacob Lattimore]

There's always another day. Because sleep is important.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

I listen. I tell Deval all the time. Because we would. We. In the first few seasons, we would push ourselves.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Yeah.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

And I'm like, all right. We just wrapped our ass.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Yeah, y'all. Knocking it out back to back, back to back. Y'all like theater?

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

No, literally shoot. We literally shoot. Like, we're in front of a live audience. I love that one take because Tyler comes from the theater.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Shout out to Tyler. I got my first gig on one of my first gigs, House of Pain.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Really?

[Jacob Lattimore]

Yeah. Wow.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

And that's still going. It's crazy. That show is still going.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Yeah. I talked to Lance. I'm like, man, what season, y'all? He said, Bro, like, 13.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Something crazy. Yeah. I'm like, I need to be. That's the type of longevity I need. Give me that consistent check.

[Jacob Lattimore]

I love it, Tyler.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

But no, I get it. Like, and we would literally, like, push ourselves. And by, like, season maybe four, I was like, d. I can't keep doing this. I was like, let me go to sleep. Because we used to stay on campus after Covid, we would stay at the studio.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Gotcha.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

So after we rapped. All right, I'm about to order some crab legs. Let's get these lines down for the next day. And one day we were running lines and I was like. And he was like, chris? I was like, he's like, chris. I said, huh? And I was like, I gotta go to sleep. I can't. So I went. I was like, I went to sleep. And then the next day knew every line. He was like, how did you do it? And I was like, I gotta sleep.

[Jacob Lattimore]

How'd you gotta sleep on it? You gotta sleep on it. Cause you'll try to run them lines at that 1:00am, 2:00am and you just stumbling over the line, nothing sticking. And that brain rests a little bit. Let it marinate. It's almost like when I was usually go to dance class. Like, I really didn't know. I didn't know the moves that day, but if they talked the next day. And for the song or the tour we was rehearsing for, I just. The moves just coming out fluid. You just gotta sleep on it, gotta let it marinate. You know what I'm saying? With anything, that's exactly, exactly.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

When it comes to roles that you choose as an actor, do you let the story speak to you? Are there some absolute things that you look for in the character? How do you go through that process? Like, you just had two auditions today. What made you say, I want to read for these?

[Jacob Lattimore]

It's a layer of things. It's a layer of things. I think at this point I'm definitely looking at first I'm looking at script, looking at story. Does it move me? Is it light hearted? Is it heavy? You know, sometimes it could be either or. Who's the director?

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yeah.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Who's the producers?

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Important.

[Jacob Lattimore]

You know, I'm at a point right now I want to go for the biggest commercial gigs. You know what I mean? I want to try to. I want to win.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yeah.

[Jacob Lattimore]

You know, I want to be next to seasoned actors, you know, so I do make those choices and I do ask, well, who's casted? I ask, you know, and it's no, it's no shade or anything. There's nothing like, oh, I can't work with this person because of this and that. Like, it's like, it's just. I paid my dues before, you know, I started young and I want that next level. I love Timothee Chalamet's like, speech. He's like, I want to strive to be a great, you know, and I'm inspired by the greats in the room and I want to be next to greats and I want to work with greats. I want to be on screen with greats.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Exactly.

[Jacob Lattimore]

You know, and that's just greats. And not to say my peers aren't great. I have some peers that are really great and I prefer to work with if I can. You know, like when I worked with Kelvin Harrison in this film called Gully.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

He's so talented.

[Jacob Lattimore]

I was like, bruh, you like my favorite actor.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

He's one of my favorite seasons. Absolutely incredible. Yeah.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Actually, that film, I actually met Jonathan Majors for the first time. Really? And I was like, bruh, out of here.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Oh, no. So he's.

[Jacob Lattimore]

He outta here. He ain't had a side. Like, I had the sides in my hand during rehearsal. He already, no sides. Ready, Beast, Just ready. Steel was cut up. Just a T shirt, abs.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

I'm like, yeah, you're a little bit right. Put these sides down.

[Jacob Lattimore]

I'm ready. I'm like, ready.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

I'm ready too.

[Jacob Lattimore]

He think he made a jog around us in a360 to get his breath pumping up for the scene. Yeah, for the particular scene we were shooting. And he was just like. And I was like, incredible.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Do you know where he studied? Cause I always loved, like, people. Do you do that?

[Jacob Lattimore]

I believe he went to school.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Like, he was like, okay. When, like, classically trained. Because I always look to see, like, people that I love in their work. I'm like, where did they study? Because if I can get some type of intensive course in, I like to keep that tool sharp.

[Jacob Lattimore]

I definitely watched and Terrence Howard was on that set. It was a pretty. Pretty cool Charlie Plummer. Some really, like, really amazing people, like, right before they really took off, you know, that was the beauty of working on a film like that.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yeah. What made you say yes to that one?

[Jacob Lattimore]

The script was just like, super left field. Like, the character, not me at all. Like, if. If anybody that's seen the film would be like, oh, you got a whole different. I believe Miguel. Miguel reached out to me and was like, bro, they don't even know what you're capable of.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Wow.

[Jacob Lattimore]

And that meant a lot to me because you know when you're doing a new role, you kind of like, you kind of insecure. Like, you're like, man, like, I don't know if. Am I killing it? Am I really nailing it? You know? Cause I auditioned a shout out to Nabil. I auditioned like six times and shout out to him for believing in me. You know what I mean? It was like I auditioned for like five or six times. He was like, more, more. You're not going hard enough. You're too smooth.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Oh, that's like.

[Jacob Lattimore]

It was just, like, too smooth. Like, you're too, like, shake it off. I was like, right, right.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

All right, okay. You're like.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Cause I sing R and B. You know, I'm just. I'm Jacob Lattimore. Right. Like, he, like, shake that off. You're off. That's not gonna work here.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yeah. Wow. Was it frustrating?

[Jacob Lattimore]

Like, a little bit.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Cause, you know, I'm sure at this point in your career, you, like, either you want me or you don't like.

[Jacob Lattimore]

It was just refreshing, though, because usually after the third audition, they onto the. They looking for the next person.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

When they called you net fifth and six, you're like, we're getting somewhere.

[Jacob Lattimore]

So I believe he was definitely in there fighting for me because, you know, a producer may have a favorite. The director might have a favorite, writer might have, you know, but the director's like, no, I see something, and you push harder.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

And that's who has to work with you. That director. Yeah, exactly.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Shout out to Nabil for pushing me. That was. You know, that's a film I always cherish. Just the learning lesson.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yeah.

[Jacob Lattimore]

You know what I mean?

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

In your career, what has been, like, the most challenging thing that you had to deal with on set? I'm sure that was one of the most.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Definitely.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Was that the most challenging?

[Jacob Lattimore]

I would say. I would say. I would say, yeah, definitely it was. Yeah. I haven't been challenged like that in a long time. I mean, season seven of the shy is gonna be. It was. It pulled on me really emotionally. Em is going through some heavy stuff. He's not always smiles and fun and jokes. But I would say this is probably the toughest season for me on the shy. Just on the locking in part. Like, oh, no, I can't. I gotta get. I have to be ready for this.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Day to be able to perform the way you need to.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Cause you and I both know how when they gotta film that scene that day and they. On that time schedule and they got that shot up and you trying. You trying to be ready for that moment. Ain't no room for error.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

No. Are you a method actor?

[Jacob Lattimore]

I can be, yeah. For Gully, I definitely was for that film with Kelvin. And it depends. It depends on the heaviness of it. Like, if it's some room for me to add me in there. I don't really be on anything method, but if it's like, not me at all.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

You gotta wake up and close the door the whole time. Yeah. Lock It.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Lock it. Yes. I may not show up to set with that energy that I like to show up to set with because I want to make sure I'm not acting funny or like, causing any riff raff, you know, because some people could take the method thing and be rude. I want to be rude. Yeah, no, like, I want to just let people know, like, hey, I'm just making headphones in, like, hey, Jacob.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

And then as soon as we rap, it's like, man, thank y'all so much.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Like, I had to cut. Let's go. Let's go get some.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Take them back. Yeah, no, I get it. You do. And it's. There's times, like, even with my hair and makeup team, they know me so well, but before they really understood my method, they would be like, key keen. And I would have super emotional team, like, hey, can y'all just bring it down just a little bit? Cause I can't be around like, ha ha, ha ha. And over here, like, trying to keep that. Cause I'm a naturally happy person and I'm not. I'm getting to the point where I can almost cry, like, to the job. But I need. It takes a minute to build it. I'm not like a.

[Jacob Lattimore]

And it gets harder too. Cause you, like, you build tougher skin and you don't. You're not as emotional as you was, you know, so you gotta like, go listen to that one song.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Listen.

[Jacob Lattimore]

What's your song right now? I think I listened to. I think it was. It was a Boyz II Men record.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Okay.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Oh, I don't want to say it. I want to say it.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

And I shouldn't have asked you that because my acting coach told me, never ask an actor what their, like, trigger is or like their song or whatever.

[Jacob Lattimore]

It's all good now because it's a couple, it's a cover, and then it's actually an old song that my dad and my uncle's sung when they were teenagers. A gospel record.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Oh, your dad was a singer?

[Jacob Lattimore]

Uh huh. Yeah.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Wow. Okay.

[Jacob Lattimore]

So the. Yeah, so like, my dad and my uncles, they formed a gospel quartet when they were young called Lamour.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Wow.

[Jacob Lattimore]

And yeah, they were actually touring and doing their thing and then they later on got signed to MCA Records by Randy Jackson doing RB music. Randy.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Shout out. Randy. That's what's up. Yeah.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Yeah. So that room was amazing for them and I learned a lot watching them. I can imagine just hearing their stories and, you know, learning a lot from my uncle. My uncle still to this day, like, Jake, stay focused Stay focused.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Lil Jake loves you out there.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Lil Jake, stay focused. Don't let him stay out there.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Shout out. We need those voices in our ears because it can get a little crazy, you know, when you're. It's so much coming at you and life is changing so fast. Fast. You need to stay grounded.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Absolutely.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Shout out UN for that.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Gotta listen to it.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yes, absolutely. Speaking of music, one of my favorite songs right now is residuals.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Oh, yeah.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

You like how I slid on in there? Yeah, you. Let me tell you something. Hit record bodied. You bodied the. When Tank started the challenge, I was always. I'm like, okay, now who's. Cause that song is just, like, so good. And I, the R and B authority, when he started that, I was like, who's gonna, like, hop on this? And when you came in, baby, let me tell you something. I was like, it wasn't enough fire signs. I was like, so good.

[Jacob Lattimore]

You know, when I saw the challenge put up and I was like, I just put my phone down. I was like, I ain't doing it.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Really? He was like, I ain't gonna do it. What pushed you to do it?

[Jacob Lattimore]

Family members called me.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Really? They like, you gotta hop in.

[Jacob Lattimore]

They like, Lil J, I know you don't do the covers no more, but you gotta do this one. Listen, you gotta do this one. And I was just like, ah. So I literally. I have recorded it, filmed it, and I literally wasn't about to throw it up.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Really.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Like, I had did everything. It was like. I was like, nah.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

What was the hesitation?

[Jacob Lattimore]

It was just. I just felt nervous. My body was shaking. You know, that kind of, like, adrenaline rush. I press share, I bet you let me know. It was like a hundred comments in, like, two seconds.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

I'm like, you're like, oh, here we go.

[Jacob Lattimore]

I'm sitting upstairs and just. I'm like. I'm like, what's going on, y'all?

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

What you.

[Jacob Lattimore]

What you mean? What you mean, bro? I see that's how you feeling, right?

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

What you talking.

[Jacob Lattimore]

I ain't.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Cause we were all like, oh, that's how you feeling?

[Jacob Lattimore]

Hey, look, it's just R and B.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

It's music.

[Jacob Lattimore]

You know what I mean?

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Shout out.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Shout out.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

CB yes.

[Jacob Lattimore]

You know, I got a chance to kick it with CB I went to go see him in Brazil.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yo, his international run was insane.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Yeah. Like, And a lot of the dancers that's with him, I grew up with. And just being out in la, just seeing them, their growth as well. So it was just. It was a full circle moment. And I Just had to hop on it. I'm like, you know, I'm like. I was hesitant. I know they was like. I felt like nobody was kind of expecting me to do it either. Just. Cause I just been so wrapped into the film. But it was a cool moment for me to just show my talent. On the music side, A lot of fans don't know I've ever did music. What I've seen a lot of comments. They're like, when Emmett starts singing.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

When Emmett starts singing forever, you know.

[Jacob Lattimore]

The world's so big. You gotta constantly humble yourself and say, no, I still got more to prove on this side. I still got people to win over. I still got more territory to conquer.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

And I'm gonna say something. That song, how vulnerable you were in your cover on that one. I feel like you have that, like, Usher confessions type of, like, vulnerability where you're really pouring your heart out and sharing your truth and something that a lot of people aren't comfortable doing. Are you now that you're working on your own original music, Is that something that you're putting into your music now?

[Jacob Lattimore]

Yeah. What thing was, I had been doing it. It just like. I'm an independent artist, so it didn't really hit when I actually dropped it. I dropped the EP called Closure. Just about just how I was feeling, you know, But I guess it was like. It was kind of quiet, you know, My core fans knew about it.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yes.

[Jacob Lattimore]

But, you know, something like that come about. They like, oh, when he do music like, oh, he been dropping stuff for a long time. I've been dropping heartbreak music. I've been dropping, you know, the heel music, healing music. You know what I'm saying? Connection one, connection two, connection three came out 2016. And, you know, so now it's just a lot more eyes on my next.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Project and with social media too. And then the.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Yeah part of me was like, I need my. I wish my album was done now.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Right. No, you know, perfect timing because I'm indy.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Like, we got to do certain things. You know, we gotta. We gotta be ready.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yes.

[Jacob Lattimore]

When it's hot, we gotta catch that moment. We not. I'm not signed to a major company. I do want to go back major one day. I just really.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Why?

[Jacob Lattimore]

I think for me, I just understand what the contract is. I understand what it is like. I understand that. I understand the power of a major label, but I also understand the freedom of being independent. And it does work for me because I am on set most of the time.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

So you do when you want to do it.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Yeah. But major. I mean, major companies still got. They still got their foot in the game in the way that it's still tough for us, you know? But I want to go back with leverage, though. I don't want to just go back to.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Go back.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Yes.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

You know, I want to go back with.

[Jacob Lattimore]

It's gotta be. It's gotta be right. It's gotta make. It's gotta be worth my while.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yes.

[Jacob Lattimore]

You know what I mean? You know what I'm saying?

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yeah.

[Jacob Lattimore]

What I was saying.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

You know what I'm saying?

[Jacob Lattimore]

It's gotta be worth it.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

It has to be. That's what Ashana and I say all the time. If we're gonna go to a bigger company for representation, they have to be doing more than what we doing here in west, too. We're like, if they ain't doing. We listen. The three of us listen. We go get it.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Yeah.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

So y'all had to bring more than what we doing ourselves.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Absolutely.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Cause we can keep that money.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Absolutely.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Okay.

[Jacob Lattimore]

You know? Cause it's just. You know, you just understand when you think about your favorite artist, right. You think about your favorite touring artist. If you. I don't know, you can name anybody and you look at their touring numbers and you look at who they're signed to.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Mm.

[Jacob Lattimore]

They signed to the Big Dog, you know? Yeah. Just. It is what it is. They didn't start off that way.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yes.

[Jacob Lattimore]

They started. They started off indie, you know, It's a great way to. It's a great way to know how to be a boss indie. Like, it's. Know how to go get your own records, book your own studio time, shoot your own music video, build your own fan base, your own band base. Like.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yeah.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Like, you gotta. It's a direct to consumer thing. You definitely gotta learn. No doubt about. Because you'll. You'll get to a record company and be like, why? They ain't doing nothing for me. But they. They only. They watching you.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yeah.

[Jacob Lattimore]

You know.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Right.

[Jacob Lattimore]

You gotta. They gotta see that you moving. They gotta see that you posting four or five times a day that you're dedicated about it. So they can't. So you can't access that capital that they have.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Exactly.

[Jacob Lattimore]

You know what I mean? Like, a lot of people compare their independent releases to a major artist release. That major artist may have a million dollars on the market.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

The backing is crazy. Yeah.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Yeah. Out the gate. As soon as that record drop, a million dollars is spent. And now it's everywhere. It's in H and M, it's in elevators. You Like, Walmart stuff ain't popping. You're like. You can't even compare your dollars.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

You can't.

[Jacob Lattimore]

You know, you gotta focus on your audience, so. And then when it's the right time, go expand.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yep, exactly. I love that. Switching gears a little bit. I wanna talk about love, relationships, and personal growth as a young man. Who the ladies love.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Y'all love me, ladies. Is that true? Why is that lady. Why is that lady alone from night to night? You find me. You seen that?

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

See?

[Jacob Lattimore]

See?

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

And he wonders why.

[Jacob Lattimore]

That's James Brown. That's James Brown. You ever seen that?

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yes.

[Jacob Lattimore]

That's my favorite interview.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Oh, my gosh. Classic. Do you find it hard to date, being in the public eye?

[Jacob Lattimore]

Um.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Cause you've done public relationships, but not really.

[Jacob Lattimore]

I mean, at first, it seems a little unorthodox. I mean, it is different. Like, Spotlight is different, you know, when dating. But at this point, it's just like this. Just come with the territory.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yeah.

[Jacob Lattimore]

It's my life, you know?

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

I like that.

[Jacob Lattimore]

You know what I mean? It's like. It ain't really. You learn to kind of just brush off certain things. You know what I mean? So it's just. It took some while to get used to.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yeah.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Everything being so public, you like, oh, whoa, okay. People really care about who you're with, who you with, and how you're. How you're moving. How y'all moving as a unit.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yeah.

[Jacob Lattimore]

And, you know, it's just not. You can't just take it lightly. Like people. If you putting it out there, like, whoa.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yeah, exactly. Beware, be ready. Social media, like, was that ever, like, an issue in your. Cause I know, for me, like, they, like, you just give one little clue, and they, like, they know this person's whole life, their whole backstory.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Yeah.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

And then they have an opinion on everything. And it's like, I ain't asked y'all for all that.

[Jacob Lattimore]

No. Yeah. Like, now I would ask. I would. I would have a lot more boundaries now.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

What would you.

[Jacob Lattimore]

I would just be like, no, let's not. Let's not throw that up. Honestly, I. Me, personally, at this point, I wouldn't pop out until it's my wife.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

I'm with you.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Yeah. I mean.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yes.

[Jacob Lattimore]

I'm not popping out.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

That's when my boundaries. If we're dating, there's no red carpets. No, like, social media posts. I'm not gonna hide you. We can go out and do whatever. If people see us, they see us. But I'm not broadcasting it until that is just for my husband.

[Jacob Lattimore]

No TikTok. It's done, right.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

None of that.

[Jacob Lattimore]

I'm popping out, like, yeah, I'm married.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

I'm with you.

[Jacob Lattimore]

That's good. That's how I would like to do it.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Pull a Issa. Because Issa just popped out, and all.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Of us, we were like, yeah, what happened? And it just. It just. It's more peaceful that way.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Way more.

[Jacob Lattimore]

You ain't got to deal with everybody all in you and get in your stuff, you know?

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

I love it. So I want to know Jacob's dream girl. If you could, like, give the DNA or the makeup and the qualities of your dream girl, what would she be like?

[Jacob Lattimore]

Dream girl. First thing come to mind, just a golly thinking woman, like, not a perfect. When I say godly, that's not. It doesn't mean she's.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

There's no such thing, you know? Absolutely.

[Jacob Lattimore]

I'm not perfect. Like, I mean, just somebody that's always constantly feeling that conviction.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Come on now.

[Jacob Lattimore]

When they walk.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yeah.

[Jacob Lattimore]

You know, like, trying to live a life of, like, a sense of, like, repentance. Like, oh, man, like, yesterday I could have been better. You know, Like, I want to be better. I think I'm looking, not looking, but if I'm. If I see something, I'm like, yeah, I like that. You know what I mean? Because in the industry we in, we dealing with a lot of spirits. We're dealing with a lot of things going on at home. I needed to be. I need to feel like Holy Grail, you know what I mean? It needs to be like. You know what I'm saying? I'm mad. I'm in the kingdom of heaven.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Hello. You know, something that's important.

[Jacob Lattimore]

That's. That's important for me. I think ultimately, that's a dream girl. And then outside of that, I need you to be in the gym. Be in the gym.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yes.

[Jacob Lattimore]

I love to work out. I love to work out with my partner. I think it's very. I feel like it's empowering.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

It's great bonding, too.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Yeah, great bonding. Good conversation. Therapy.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Come on. Therapy. So do you have a therapist?

[Jacob Lattimore]

I do.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Good.

[Jacob Lattimore]

It's been. It's been a few months.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Okay. That's okay.

[Jacob Lattimore]

But I was. I was. I was heavy in it. I need to get back in there. Get back in there. But it's. It was great for me.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yes.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Because it taught me how to manage a lot on my own.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

That's good.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Yeah. And to let stuff go that, like, you, like. She's like, why are you carrying it.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

You like, I don't know.

[Jacob Lattimore]

I don't even know.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

That's a good question.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Like, why? You know, so that I, like, I gotta grow some style, you know?

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

But that's.

[Jacob Lattimore]

That could be taught, too.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

It can.

[Jacob Lattimore]

That could be taught.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yeah. Y'all say that. Oh, my God. I'm like, I can handle that.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Yeah, that could be taught. Like, I'm like, can you put this on?

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

It's already laid out.

[Jacob Lattimore]

That's crazy. Then piper up.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Like, yeah, yeah.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Now what's happening? Like, hey, that look crazy. Ooh wee. Hey, I seen you rap. Like, what's happening? You know what I mean? Yes. So, yeah, those are materialistic things that can be taught. And then, you know, it's all. I had this conversation not too long ago. I'm like, do I wanna. Do I wanna working working woman or do I wanna at home girl?

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yeah, that's a good question.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Cause I am such a workaholic.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

You need. It's almost like you need that balance. Both Y'all can't be. Yeah. So how do you feel about that now?

[Jacob Lattimore]

I don't know yet. You know, I really don't know yet. I mean, it's not that I don't want my girl to have ambition and a work ethic. You know what I mean? I feel like. I think she should definitely have something that she loves to do, but I don't want her to feel like she got to do it. Like, I like that.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yeah.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Like, when I'm like, when I come home, I need you to be at the crib.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yeah. Where you at?

[Jacob Lattimore]

You know? And that's. That's. And I check myself. That's maybe a little selfish of me. A little bit. You know? A little bit.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

But it's honest.

[Jacob Lattimore]

But it's honest.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yeah. You have to be honest with yourself and what you need, you know, and finding the person, that's like, yeah, I can. I can do that.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Yeah.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

You know?

[Jacob Lattimore]

Yeah.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yeah.

[Jacob Lattimore]

It's on us some. I'm still on the path. Like, I'm still like, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. I need. Cause I've had situations where a girl paid. A girl paid for me one time.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

I was like, paid for you?

[Jacob Lattimore]

Like what? Like, in the sense of, like, dinner and, like, my birthday, I'm like, oh, I like it. I always. I feel cringy. Cause I'm like. I'm so used to being the one paying.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yeah.

[Jacob Lattimore]

You know? And I was like. I'm like, that kind of felt good.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

I'm like, oh, God, you get used to this.

[Jacob Lattimore]

You Be a chick with some bread. And then I'm like, hold up. Then I'm like, wait.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Then a lot of you.

[Jacob Lattimore]

What's the spirit? What's the spirit? Cause that's more important.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Way more important.

[Jacob Lattimore]

You know what I'm saying? So it's always a battle. But I think for me, I'm just. I'm really trying to force myself in a space right now to be single. This is the longest I've ever been single.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Really.

[Jacob Lattimore]

I started out dating young relationships. So I was in like back to back relationship for like 10 years.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yeah. I was a habitual dater. Like break up with somebody. I'm like, yep, next, next.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Next one was public, but the other ones was private. And then long. And no one's seen that. So I'm just like, I don't want to preach like, oh, you should be single. You should never date. Like, that's not what I want to put out there. I just think for me in this season, it's just good for me to enjoy my home.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yes.

[Jacob Lattimore]

And the silence of my crib.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Jake was important.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Yeah. You know, and just. And take that time out before I share it with somebody.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

And I'll tell you something. Cause I'm a lot older than you. When I had a season in my life where I didn't date as well. And I feel like when you're like us and we've dated so like rapidly or frequently, and you had all these different people and these different energies and just pouring, pouring and pouring. Cause when you're in a relationship, it's all about your partner.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Yeah.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

You know, and there comes a time where you do have to be selfish as you or whatever people want to call it. But I think in those moments, you learn so much about yourself. You learn how to figure out what it is you like. Because sometimes we can be in relationships, like whatever you like, whatever you want to do. And it's like, damn, what do I like?

[Jacob Lattimore]

Right.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

You know, And I feel like in those moments of solitude and just not being with somebody, you learn exactly what you want. So I'm proud of you.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Thank you.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yeah. Because I mean, people date like you shouldn't be alone and all. No. Sometimes you need those moments. Yeah.

[Jacob Lattimore]

And it doesn't necessarily mean that I don't go kick it, you know, like, it's just my home is for me, you know, But I go to dinner, you know, like, I'll go, you know, I have a dinner with a nice young lady and we'll go to, you know, we. In Atlanta, we Go to a little hookah lounge. The south, so Atlanta, you know, wings, lemon peppers. You know, you might catch a vibe, you know, so it ain't like I'm just, like, so isolated.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

But you're not. So, like, I gotta get somebody. Like, you're not on the hunt or on the prowl.

[Jacob Lattimore]

I'm very vocal on just like, hey, I'm not really taking things serious right now.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Good. So you're not leading anyone on.

[Jacob Lattimore]

I'm proud of you. Yeah. Thank you.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Thank you.

[Jacob Lattimore]

You know, it's tough out here.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Listen, I'm trying to tell you. It's very tough.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Cause it's easy. It's easy to be like, I like her, though.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

But I really like her.

[Jacob Lattimore]

And then you like, wait, what am I doing? I ain't got no vision. I ain't got no vision. I ain't thinking about the next two years or nothing.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

You have to be very intentional when it's time to be in that space.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Yeah.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Because you can break somebody's heart because they'll be like, Jake Lattimore.

[Jacob Lattimore]

They be open like me.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Like, this the one.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Yeah.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

And then, like, he just broke over me. Because you wasn't ready. And then I'm like, now, Jacob, Latino broke. Broke my heart. And you don't want that.

[Jacob Lattimore]

I don't want that. I don't want no track record.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

No. No. So you're doing the right thing. Thank you. I'm proud of you. So I. I know you. We said when people ask you what's next? So I'm not gonna ask you what's next, but what are you looking forward to for the future for you?

[Jacob Lattimore]

Right now? I'm just looking forward to just. I'm looking forward to creating more on the. On the film side. Like, I've been trying to practice more writing. Okay. Yeah. So, like, taking more time, and I'll talk to writers. And I was like, how long did you. How long did it take for you to write the script? Oh, they said, oh, man, like, six years.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Oh, yeah.

[Jacob Lattimore]

You think you could go in writing in your office and write a script in 30 days?

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

No.

[Jacob Lattimore]

No.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

I've been writing a script since 2000. When was Covid? 20. 20.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Yeah.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yeah.

[Jacob Lattimore]

And a great writer mentor of mine, he was like, you can't write small.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

No, that's so true.

[Jacob Lattimore]

You can't write small. He said, it's hard to make it small. I said, I got some. I got some one sheets. He like. He said, one sheets are cool, but it's hard to write small.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

You gotta.

[Jacob Lattimore]

You gotta Take that two years. Take two, three years every day and add something to the story, and the next thing you know, you have a hundred pages. Yeah, 120 pages. You know what I mean? So just being patient with myself. Journaling more.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

We'll have to get you a journal. Have a journal.

[Jacob Lattimore]

I got some. I just. I be like. If you look at the days in my journal, it's like. It'd be like months out between the days.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yeah. That's okay. It's really hard, especially when you're busy. It's hard to, like, wake up or in the evenings to figure out a time to sit down and really journal. You have to be very. It's something you have to be intentional with.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Absolutely.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

So I understand. Trust me. Cause there's times in my life where I'm like, ooh, that was January. It's March. So, like, I definitely get it. I'm more intentional about it now because it's therapeutic for me. And I write my prayers out. So, like, I talk to God about, like, what I'm grateful for, what I'm going through, what I want him to, like, guide me through, and all type of things. So it's more of, like, my time with God, where I write it out. But, yeah, we'll make sure we give you a journey.

[Jacob Lattimore]

We always need them journals. I feel like I've had, like, three or four over the past couple years. Like, you got some information in there. You got some information in there, and you just writing down goals and. I mean, a lot of my goals are, like, financial, and I got real estate goals. I've been into that. Like, I've been. Only thing I've been buying is, like, turnkey properties. Meaning, like, properties that already have tenants in there and it's cash flowing already.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Smart.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Don't really need much work, but I want to get into flipping.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yes.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Flipping properties in the next. Within the next six months.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Okay.

[Jacob Lattimore]

You know what I mean? So I'm just, like, diving into that and then also just doing a little traveling, too.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yeah.

[Jacob Lattimore]

I'm like, this. This the longest break we've had in between seasons.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Right.

[Jacob Lattimore]

So I want to do a little traveling, see the world a bit, you know?

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yeah.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Enjoy it and get some perspective, you know, get some inspiration. Cause I am a homebody. I am like Chicago, Atlanta, Chicago, Atlanta. Maybe la, maybe New York, but.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Oh, yeah, you need to get out.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Of state to get out the states.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Absolutely.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Try some different food.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yes.

[Jacob Lattimore]

You know, learn different language, all the things.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yeah, that's good. You'll come back inspired.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Yeah.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

I promise you.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Oh, he's different now.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Y'all thought I was different. I love that. So we do what is called positive outcomes, where our listeners write in and we give them advice. So I'm gonna read this letter from. I don't want to butcher your name. I hope I'm saying this right. Nalijah Williams. Hey, hey, Nalijah. Nalijah says I recently just left a relationship I was in for nine years. The only relationship I've been in, the only person I've ever been with. I have three children by him. As I started seeking God, we became further apart. I didn't quite understand until one night we had a big argument, and I prayed for clarity. And it was as if God himself was in my face and said, he can't go. The flesh wants what it wants when it's comfortable, but the spirit says no. How do you handle flesh and spirit? Oh, my gosh, Nalijah.

[Jacob Lattimore]

So I'm not even know I'm experiencing the. But what I do know about what I've read is a man leaves his mother and his father and become one flesh with his wife. And I don't. That. That don't sound easy to me. So I don't think it was ever meant to be easy unless it was, like, something that's truly detrimental in the relationship. I say fight, and you got a family, man.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

I think her biggest thing is that she's seeking a relationship with God and the guy's pulling apart from her. So I haven't had that situation, But I have had a situation where I had.

[Jacob Lattimore]

I missed that part. I wouldn't listen.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Oh, no, you're good. I think that was her biggest thing. But for me, I've been in a situation where literally God sat in the car and was like, I heard the same thing. He can't go. Cause I was fighting for it. I was like, I wanted. And he was a narcissist. Manipulative.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Oh, he can't go. As in, like, into your next journey of your life. Yeah, I see.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Oh, yeah. But you, like, the flesh wants what it's like, but I love this man or this woman. And it's like, you see all the things that it could be in your mind, and God's like, no, that ain't what I have for you. And the reason why you still stuck is because you haven't let this go. So I can't take you to the next level.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Right.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

I've had that situation. And then even where I am now, God has been. He's. I'VE talked about it on another podcast, but God convicted me on sexual something. Really? My Bible. And like I'm reading, it's like sexual immorality. I'm like, it's like the pa. The words are like. I'm like, man, why are you jumping at me like that?

[Jacob Lattimore]

He'll do it to you. Listen, like, I seen you last night.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Uh huh.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Listen, I wasn't doing that. Yo, Jacob.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

He saw that.

[Jacob Lattimore]

You're right, I wasn't, I wasn't even supposed to be over there.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

What are you doing that you wasn't.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Even supposed to be over there?

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

I told a friend of mine because I gave it sex. And. And I had the hardest time telling the guy I was dating. I was like, he gonna be like, nah, I'm good on that. And he was like, nah, if this is what God convicted you on, like, I'm with it. But I remember telling my friend, as I went even further, I threw my vibrator out and all the things. I was like, I'm really gonna do this. Cause I can't like be halfway in and halfway out. And I remember telling her, I was like, there was a bad storm like a few weeks ago. And I was like, I woke up, the thunder was so loud. I was like, is that God? Like, I thought he was bad. I went in my closet and everything. I was like, lord. I was like, if you coming, come on.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Nah. Yeah, them stomach feelings don't like, I've realized, like, you can't ignore it. You can't ignore it, you know? And anytime I have, it's like, I knew it, I knew it.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

That discernment. Yeah, you felt it.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Sometimes you feel like you crazy. You feel like I'm being crazy, I'm tripping, I'm overthinking.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

You're not.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Nah, nah, there was nothing. You right on point. Yeah.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

I told my girlfriend, I said, I said, when I thought he was here, I was like, I really thought God had came back. And I said, and I thought, ooh, if God come back to right now, do I want to be somewhere with my legs cocked back.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Like, oh, what.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Are you thinking about? She said, damn, I didn't think about it like that. I was like, think about it. I said, whatever you doing that you ain't got no business doing.

[Jacob Lattimore]

I was like, that's, that's so.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

I want to be like, I want.

[Jacob Lattimore]

To be in the word. Like, I knew you were.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

I knew you were coming.

[Jacob Lattimore]

I knew you would return.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

My daddy gonna say, I told my dad he was done laughing. He said, girl, he said, you gonna be gone before he even know you. Like before you know you're gonna be caught up in the rapture. I was like, dang. I said, well, whatever I'm doing, I wanna be caught up doing the right thing. I wanna be getting there like butt naked. Like, what was you doing?

[Jacob Lattimore]

At least you wanna be in the covenant, right? You in the covenant. It's like, hey, you know what I mean?

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

You in the covenant. We made it.

[Jacob Lattimore]

We married, we under your blood.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Listen, you know what I mean? It's cool. Yes.

[Jacob Lattimore]

You single? Just outside, like, ah, man, I knew I wasn't supposed to be there.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

I knew it. I knew, you know what I'm saying?

[Jacob Lattimore]

Like, I knew I was supposed to be at home in my word. Yeah. Watching sermons, being alone and sipping tea. You know what I mean?

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

So, Nalajah, I would tell you just to continue to work on your relationship with God and anything that is pushing you away from that or hindering from you had to separate from it.

[Jacob Lattimore]

That's right.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

So we praying for you, girl.

[Jacob Lattimore]

That's right. And forget what I said. Cause I went, I ain't got no business even speaking on it. No, you good.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

So we are going to end the show with a rapid fire game.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Okay?

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

All right. So every word or phrase that I say, you're gonna tell me the first thing that comes to mind.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Okay?

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

You ready?

[Jacob Lattimore]

Wait, wait, wait. Say it how?

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Say one more time, because I'm gonna say.

[Jacob Lattimore]

I'll be listening.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

I'm gonna give you some phrases and whatever I say, I want you to say the first thing that comes to mind.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Okay?

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

It can be like. It doesn't have to be just one word. You can like whatever comes to mind, you can say it. Okay, the first one is the shy, consistent. Oh, all right. The perfect woman out there. She's out there somewhere. Self care.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Therapy.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

I love that.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Milwaukee hometown.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yes.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Growth uncomfortable.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Was it manhood?

[Jacob Lattimore]

Ooh, an everyday learning curve. I don't never feel like I'm there.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

I love that last one. Purpose.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Purpose. It's divine. Almost don't even understand it. Like, I'm still trying to figure it out. Like, you think it's because you're doing your music, you think it's because you're doing your acting, but it's like it's something deeper, you know? Like it's deeper and you just, you still. We still trying to figure it out, right? Like, oh, oh. That was the purpose for me being here. That was the purpose for me working with this actress. That was the real purpose for me working with this actor.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yes.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Like we doing this movie is gonna come out, but that conversation I had with the person was like, that was it. And that's the mysteriousness of the creator.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

I love that. I love that. Jacob, thank you so much. I really enjoy talking to you.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Yeah, it's a vibe.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Yes.

[Jacob Lattimore]

They gonna like this.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

They are gonna love it. They're gonna love it. Thank you so much.

[Jacob Lattimore]

Thank you.

[Krystal Renee Hayslett]

Oh, my goodness. My episode with Jacob Lattimore was absolutely amazing. He has been in the game for so long. I took so many gems, but I know you guys did too. One of the things that stood out the most to me were when we talked about survivor's remorse and who can come with you and who can't. And I feel like that is so prominent in so many people's walks is knowing when it's time to let certain people go and the people you should hold on to that understand where you're going and your walk. That was an incredible conversation with Jacob. His journey and personal growth is inspiring, and I hope you're walking away as motivated as I am. Thank you so much for tuning into this episode. If you want to write into our positive outcomes listener letter, you can send us an email to keepitpositivesweetiemail.com youm can follow me on all platforms at lovechristalrenee and you can follow the show at keepitpositivesweetie. Guys, don't forget to subscribe, leave a review and share this episode with someone who could use some positive energy. And remember, no matter what life throws at you, stay focused, stay confident, and always keep it positive. Sweetie, I'll see you guys next time.