← Keep it Positive, Sweetie
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A
Hello, and welcome to this episode of Keep It Positive, sweetie. Today we are talking about creating a life of longevity. And I have my big brother from another mother, Mr. Kenny Burns, y'. All. Kenny, you. You literally, you know how to reinvent yourself. You step into, stay relevant. And I wanted to bring you on because a lot of people see you, but they don't really know, like, the businessman that you are, all the. Your journey and have the many areas that you've tapped into. So I really want to touch on a lot of those things. But when I think about your life, I think about heavy is the head that wears the crown. Because. Yeah, because I know someone of your stature. Like, it's a lot of responsibility that falls on you and, you know a lot of people, but with those responsibilities and the rooms that you're in, I know that gets heavy sometimes.
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B
For sure.
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A
Yeah.
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B
They look for good time Kenny, all the time, which is, like, the heaviest part. Yes. You gotta be on. Oh, Kenny's here. Good time.
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A
Yep.
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B
You don't know what's going on in my life. It's just, you want that light switch when you want it, and that's been honestly my life.
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A
Wow. From, like, day one, you've always been Kenny.
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B
Well, I've always been good time Kenny. I think, you know, I think parallel with just being, like, a good human, I've always wanted people to be good in my space. I always wanted people to have the time of their lives or help get out of things. Obviously, when I was younger, I was a little bit of a knucklehead wannabe thug, but I always had a heart. That's why Huston never really aligned with my spirit, you know, And I did it. I mean, I was locked up at 18, you know, out of high school, lost basketball scholarships and opportunities, and you think about life like, damn, like, is this really who I am? So my whole life has been getting to where my passion aligns with my purpose. Because I've always had, you know, the energy for both. It was just about them aligning, and I'm finally aligned.
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A
I love that. I feel it.
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B
Yeah. No, it's deep. It's deep. Like, I'm denouncing all types of gangster shit that I grew up on and. And just all the things you think you're supposed to be. Right. Because society, you know, has its own playbook for you. And it's sad, like, when you don't control your narrative. And for me, it's just about controlling the narrative, not only for me, but for my people.
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A
Yeah. I love That I remember when I first met you. Well, even knew of you. I was on the party scene, y'. All.
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B
She was outside.
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A
I was outside when the doors.
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B
Little red balls running around talking about.
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A
Hey, we here, we're here, we're here. And you were like, I never had seen anyone emcee a party like that. I was like, this man is the life of the party. And it was always exciting when you were there. Cause you would always shout us out. We felt so important, y'. All. He'd be like, my sis Chris here. My sis Kayla here. Like, it was like we just really knew, like, Kenny Birds knows us. Like, we felt like somebody in Atlanta. And then I remember the first time I actually got to like, get to know you a little better was when D.C. howard Homecoming 1 year. Oh, okay. I had traveled and we have a mutual friend. Omari Ware.
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B
Yeah. My God.
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A
Yes. And you were with him. And then we ended up running each other. And I was like, this is a really cool guy.
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B
Thank you.
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A
I got to see more than just the guy behind the microphone.
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B
Yes. We got to hang out.
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A
Yeah, we got to hang out.
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B
And I'm glad you said that because I felt like people see my pictures. And back then it was pictures. Social media was just starting to pop.
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A
Right.
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B
That's been my whole life. They judge because of like, okay, this light skinned dude dresses well. Oh, his wife is fine. Oh, his kids look good. Well, he must be like this. He must act like this. And I think that's, you know, served me well because once they get to know me, they feel so bad for thinking the things that they think.
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A
Well, I never thought anything about it.
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B
Well, no prejudgment. It's not. It's like, you know, you, like you saying, I saw you. Well, you had a bright light. And look at you now. Like, not even saying that I knew you were gonna be satima. You know what I'm talking about. But, like, knew that you had a light. Same with Kayla. Your whole crew, like, had a certain energy. And that's honestly one of my superpowers. Through seeing people, I got to see the best in humans. And I know how to place it and help out when I can. And just like when I walked in here, you told me you were doing this and I was telling your partner, like, well, I know somebody and things, because that's just like my first nature.
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A
Connect dots and help people. That is. That's who you are. And I really. That's probably a testament to why you've gone so far in life. Because you're not gatekeeping and holding things all to yourself. You're willing to share.
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B
Yeah, there's a thing called gatekeepers, of course. And then you have Hatekeepers. And I think the generation now are full of Hatekeepers. And I say hatekeepers. Gatekeepers are in place to make sure the best of us gets through, which keeps things at a medium. It's almost like having a middle class, an upper class, and that balance between worlds. Right now, the Hatekeepers, they don't want to let go of any of the power because if it's not in their hands, you, you know, they can't run amok. I mean, a great example of that. And I'm not in any way shitting on Puff, but like, Ciroc was like his world, you know, he built that brand to a whole nother thing and to be literally fired from it. But everything Puff's associated with starts with that nucleus. Not only because it made him, you know, $100 million a year, but like, damn, imagine having. But these are the people in place. And then when you think you can speak out and say the things you truly feel, I guess he really felt like that. You know what I mean? But then to your world to stop. So that's what I mean by like, hatekeepers, like, there are people in pocket that will get rid of you and do not need you for whatever reason, no matter how much money you made them. So I guess I'm giving him his props, finally. But at the same time, you know, we have to be careful of that because we put too much faith in people, and then we also don't really understand that. Yeah, you can say what you want to say, you can act how you want to act, but there are consequences. And we're not in a generation that feels like there's any consequences. They just running amok.
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A
They are. That's so true. So true. I want to go back to your upbringing. You're from D.C. yes, I had a short stint in D.C. when I worked on Capitol Hill.
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B
Okay. Politician slash actress slash multi hyphenated. Yeah, come on. Multi hyphenated.
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A
Listen, I always say that D.C. was a place that I found myself. You know, I come from a very small town, and it gave me room to dream because there was nothing else to do there. I could just dream. And I moved to D.C. after college, and that was the place I really found. I found my sense of style. I found who I was. I was by myself, away from family. And I remember talking to Omari Hardwick and he was saying, if you want to be an actor, everybody says, go to school. Go to acting school. He said, I tell you to leave home.
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B
Absolutely.
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A
And I was like, oh, my God, you're right. Because when I left home, that's when shit got real. So I always say, D.C. is where I found myself. But you grew up in D.C. tell me about that time, like, as a youngster and like, going to Howard and running alongside you and Puff. Were y' all were in school together?
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B
No, they're older than me.
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A
They're old.
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B
Bam, bam, bam, bam.
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A
No, they're older.
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B
No, I. So I never went to Howard. Jessica went to Howard.
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A
My wife. Oh, that's Howard was Howard.
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B
She graduated cum laude, but Howard was.
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A
First of all, shout out, Jess, we love you.
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B
Shout out my beautiful.
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A
Your beautiful self.
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B
Yes. She told me, tay, she love you, she proud of you, and she wants to come. And all the things I wish you had brought her.
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A
Yeah. But y' all gotta come back over for dinner.
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B
Absolutely.
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A
I'll cook for y'.
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B
All. Can you. Okay.
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A
I can cook. Yeah.
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B
You wanna come Loveland first?
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A
I wanna come there first, yes.
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B
Okay.
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A
Yeah. So I can see what she do.
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B
We gonna set the bar so I can make sure she set the bar.
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A
Like, don't come over here in case.
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B
You want her to come over here. No, but dc, you know, first and foremost, DC is a melting pot of all amazing things. There's so many cultures. Like, when I was growing up, I first heard Elvis Creswell, you know what I'm saying? With the Spanish side of what was happening in dc, I learned about Fela Kute, you know what I'm saying? Like, with the whole African diaspora that's there, and then, you know, then there's D.C. in D.C. we have our own form of music.
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A
Yes.
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B
We have our own sense of style. Like, I called D.C. the drive through because of Howard University. Ironically, you know, people would come to dc, Go to Howard, and then they would meet a DC guy or girl and stay and get married and have a life. But, yeah, they came to Howard and took a lot of our style, too. Like, when you look at, like, Herbie Love Bug and his whole movement, that includes salt and pepper, Kim Play, all of it was go, go. All the music was go, go. And so we don't get a lot of credit. I call DC the drive thru. And it's cool, you know what I'm saying? But we had some bright spots, you know, obviously, in music and contribution in the last couple decades. But it's a Blessing coming from D.C. because it was truly a melting pot where I learned a lot of my superpowers.
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A
Absolutely. I experienced my first go Go that weekend that we were in dc. You was like, we gotta go here. So we went there and I was just like. And I had lived in D.C. and never went to a. Like to a go go. I was mind blown.
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B
Yeah, it's a pocket talent. It's a pocket musically. Yeah. And you get. It's like. It's like even if you don't dance, you start.
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A
Your body starts moving naturally.
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B
Yeah. Don't let you see somebody you like, Child. It's gonna be a. I don't know what type of dance that's called, but it's sexual.
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A
It's very sexual. Right. How did you go from. How did you even get into party promoting?
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B
So when I was a senior in high school, I got locked up my senior year and I was a basketball, you know, I wasn't. I wouldn't say I was a star, but I was good and could have been great if I chose basketball over the streets. But I was in the streets and you know, the year before that, my junior, I started going to, like, we got the fake IDs, we started going to the Ritz and the Chicago's and like all the clubs. And I just love the energy of what it was. Puff was, I think, at Howard my junior year, and they would do parties like at the opera and things like that. We were going. We was in the streets, so we had a little bit of money. Like who these young ones, you know, I know they really not. But we had the fake IDs, so we were at all the club. And so it just became a good time kind of thing. And then when I got locked up, I was like, you know, I need to do something because clearly I'm not gonna be playing basketball anymore. How can I make this money?
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A
Yeah, exactly.
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B
So me and my friend Garnett, we had Fly Guy Promotions. We created that my senior year. And we tried to do this one party where these parties were happening. So we kind of slide in and take the energy from the place. We knew a lot of people, but we were kind of smart a little bit. Anyway, the lights didn't work tonight or something. Power went out. We had all these people outside. I was like, wait, I can move people like that. And my cousin simultaneously had been accepted to Morehouse College. So fast forward a year. I couldn't go anywhere because of my situation and tried to enroll in junior college and play basketball. Ended up pushing somebody out the air. Child that bleachers cleared, and it was a whole melee. So I was like, okay, I'm gonna stop playing basketball for real. Stop trying. He said, come to Freaknik. And literally, I came to Freaknik 1992, and it changed my life.
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A
Freaknik. Wow. Yeah.
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B
Freaknik 92. I had Howard University as my backdrop growing up, but I had never saw so many black people from all over the country that were just, like, trying to figure it out. I think that era was obviously the era that took hip hop to a trillion dollars. I mean, literally, our generation took it to a trillion dollar business. But we were like, we had so much opportunity. There was so much going on. We were like, wait, what is this? And then, sure enough, what didn't happen? And DC Happened for me here in Atlanta.
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A
Wow, that's amazing. So you've worked your way into the music industry, and you have worked with. From Biggie and Puff to J. Clark Kent as a marketer and strategist. Tell us, is there any stories that you can share just about that journey? Like, any funny. Like, something that was crazy that happened that you can share that wasn't. Like, that's not too personal?
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B
No, I've shared a lot of them. But I think one of the moments for me that really changed my life was, like, I had been throwing parties in Atlanta. You know, the Big Puff, you know, fight had happened. Freaknik94, a lot of people know that story. But after the parties, Andre Harrell was leaving uptown to start Motown. And from bringing Clark Kent to Atlanta so many times, he asked me to go on the road with him. So Clark would take me to Shaq's house. Shaq would bring us every two weeks when he played for the Orlando Magic. Every two weeks, they had, like, parties. Khaled would open for Clark. I would be on with Clark. Oh, no. It was crazy. And then, so I'm moving around, literally, the world with Clark, and I'm on the mic. And so Andre Harrell was leaving uptown, and Clark called me, was like, yo, I just got 750. This man is paying white executive salaries. Like, you need to figure out how to get in Motown. And I was like, okay, how? Simultaneously, my parole officer called me and was like, I had a warrant, right? So they came to Atlanta looking for me, said I wasn't reporting. But I'm like, you get my paper? Like, what are you talking? I don't know what it is. I'm trying to figure it out. I'm just letting you know. So ironically, Andre Harrell was going to Washington, D.C. and he wanted to do a party. And Clark was like, this is the best way you could do it? I was like, well, I'm kind of on the run, right? Literally, you know what I'm saying? Like, I gotta get back because extradition was like six months. I was like, let me get to D.C. cause that's where the charge was. So ironically, same weekend, I threw a party for Andre Harrell. He literally was like, you know, he likes Dom Perrion, he likes women who look like Crystal and Kayla and the crew. And please, just get the thing, you know, get the thing together. I was like, no problem. So at this time, Chris Weber, Juwan Howard, Rasheed Wallace were all playing for the Bullets. This is wild. I'm old. So they were all like, you know, they were at the, you know, in their prime. And I threw a party. And literally, when I tell you had a bottle of D, well, a couple bottles of Don Peron waiting for him, my friends, to wait. I didn't get there yet. I just wanted him to kind of come and be escorted to his seat and be impressed by the time I came in. This is the classic Andre Harrell voice. He was like, oh, sit this light skinned.
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A
Oh.
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B
He was just going on and on about what I had put together. And I'm talking about like party wise and ambiance wise. And he was like, what do you do, nigga? I'll send it.
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A
This shit is magic.
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B
And he's like, you DC fly too. Look at you, nigga. And so I was like, I'm Kenny Burns. I want you to have a good time. Clark told me to take care. He's like, no, no, what do you do? And I was like, I make it happen, you know, Period. Yeah, like, what do you need next? He's like, oh, nigga, you think you fly, nigga? Sit down, nigga. Next to the butter wavies, nigga. Excuse me. Move over, let this nigga. I'm sitting down. And I'm just like, first of all, Uptown was the soundtrack of my life. So as a kid, like, you think about Al B. Sure Guy.
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A
Yes.
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B
You know, the introduction to Mary J. Like Heavy D in the Boys. And I'm like, I'm sitting here with Andre. And most people back then weren't, you know, overly impressed by the executive, but I was like, he was the one, not the two.
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Exactly.
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Anyway, long story short, he was like, okay, get to New York City, 8am Monday morning, old Town Records. If you want a job, you got to show me what you can do. Ah, so say less. I was at 8am he didn't get into 10. He came. He's like, oh, with the butter wavies, champagne, the bubbles. I was like, I want to work. And he was like, what do you do? I said, I'm good in the street. Put this nigga in street team market and give him 60,000 a year. I was like, word. Like, me throwing you a party got me 60,000 a year on Monday. Now, mind you, I mean, I probably was making more, like, you know, doing my thing as far as the parties and stuff. But it was like, the opportunity to be in the building.
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A
Exactly.
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B
But when I got in the building, Crystal, it was lights out. Joe Jackson, he gave me free reign. I went from 60 to 80 to 120 in a year and a half. And I was just getting opportunities. But, you know, for the first time in my life outside of Clark Kent and my brother Wendell White, you know, Wendell. But, like, he saw me and paid me. You know what I'm saying? Like, he saw me. He's like, here's the check.
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Yeah, literally.
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And then I was like, oh, okay, this is the thing. So I went and ran amok. And, yeah, he came.
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A
Pops. Yeah. I remember when he passed, I didn't know the relationship that you all had, but I remember that affected, you know.
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B
No. Deeply. And I think that that was the start of the change in me too. Just who I was. I've always been who I am to this industry, but it was me not co Signing anything else. Not that I ever co signed it, but being around it is co signing. And I want people to know that, you know, I never walked to Brooklyn for cheesecake. That was never in my DNA. But I also was around when bullshit was going down. And, see, I would remove myself because it was none of my business, but it is my business, and that's where I am now. As far as when I tell you passion, meeting purpose, like, I can't. Nothing can go unchecked anymore, you know? And that's what I think as a culture we need to do more of. But speaking of when Dre died, like, I was with Dre the last three years of his life. And one of the saddest things was that this man I met, and you just heard the story I told you, but this man I met has so much reverence for and so much respect for who taught me about art and how to, you know, match it all together. You know, it's one thing to have a, you know, Bentley, but you're living in a condo. You know, I'm talking about a 300, $400,000 condo. Not know, not the price, you know. Yes, your car costs as much.
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A
Yeah.
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B
So it's like. Or looking the part and not actually having it. You know what I mean? Like. And so I was going through this industry with blinders on, and the last three years of his life taught me so much, because not only was he dying, literally, he had, you know, he had triple bypass surgery, like, years before this. But he was looking different, he was acting different, he was breathing different, and all this heart, you know, you had heart surgery, triple bypass, like the biggest shit. You black widow, whatever they call it, Right? The widowmaker. You know what I'm saying? But you're going through all these things, and at the same time, it hurts my heart because he was not believing in himself. Like, the man who put all this shit in perspective for all of us. He brought lifestyle to the game before Andre and. And I will give Russell similar credit, you know, obviously, for Run dmc, Def Jam, so forth and so. But Dre made it sexy. Dre made it aspirational for everybody, not just the hood. Yes, you could be, you know what I mean, Anybody, any race, and want to be the best version of yourself. And I felt like he was demeaned to a molecule. Like he was not himself. He was not poured into. I mean, outside of me and, like, o' Neil and Nathan and, like, his immediate, you know, circle. But it was just wild to me because someone who had all that fighting to still be heard after all, after all that.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Yeah, it was crazy.
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A
Oh, my goodness. Did he inspire you? You launched your own record label, Studio 43, and started a girl group, Dream.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Was Andre a part of that inspiration?
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B
He signed Dream.
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A
Wow.
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B
Like, every step of the way since I met him, he had been a major piece to my puzzle, you know? And it's just ironic how life is too, right? Like, because we weren't given a blueprint on how to do it, right. We were given a blueprint. It was some fucked up shit in the middle of that blueprint, even thought process, like, I'm in the club selling fantasy the first seven, eight years of my marriage. Like, you know what I mean? But making women think they could have me. And I go home, but at the same time, now this person, now, that wasn't the shit to do. They gonna still want you. I put the shit on. I smell good. It's just things that I offer. But you ain't got to be in the club. Touch yourself if you love yourself I'm damn it Getting panties thrown at me, you know what I'm talking about? But I just think that we're taught these things. Like we're literally taught that, you know, you're supposed to have this and do this and move up. But no, it's like the real things that really fill you, like fill your cup. I just think I had learned all that in my processes versus being taught that early.
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A
Yeah. Oh, I love that. And how long did it take you to talk about you sold women the fantasy that could have you, but knowing that Jessica had you.
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B
Oh, you know what I'm saying?
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A
Yeah. But what was the transition of being like, you know what, this ain't for me. Like, let me stop this.
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B
Yeah, real talk. I didn't want to be the old in the club. I was already the party king at 40. And I think times have changed. Right? You don't kind of look at 40 year olds, 50 year olds like you did when we were right young. And, and honestly our parents were tapping out at 50. They was like, okay, retirement. Since such, such, such winter. They stopped dressing. They just, it's like, I'm not, I'm not going. It's fine, you can have it. But I think we have a little bit more zest for life now. The value of life. We created an industry that we don't have to stop. There's transition as far as like your creativity and how you want to show up and, you know, I feel like I didn't want to be the old guy in the club, but then also too, I wasn't in it musically anymore. I just had a conversation the other day was like, for the first time in my life, I don't feel like my hand is on the postal culture and not. And I'm talking about young culture. Like having that skill set my entire life kept me in the game. Yes, right. Knowing what young is it go get. Now mind you, I do know how to spot talent far and few in between. Every time a 10 year gap goes though, and it's harder for me now to come. Oh, you come. Oh, let me get you. Because ideals change, values change and what you want in the game changes. And because we don't have any real gatekeepers anymore. Like, I challenge all of my, my youngest that are like, they're all VPs and head of this, that and the third. And I challenge, like, would you want your son listening to that bullshit you promoting? Would you? And it's not.
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That's good.
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B
No, I have to. Right? And it's because no one's doing It.
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A
No.
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No one is holding. Like, if you look at these. We were having a conversation on my podcast the other day. If the black executives walked out of these buildings and. And went on strike until they were able to sign honestly what they're passionate about or what was better or best for our community, they would have to listen.
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Wow.
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Because right now, they're searching for the op. You know, they're searching for the gang member, for young thug to be even in the mindset he's in right now, or was in prior to even being a millionaire. Having put people on does amazing things for the hood. But yet you still with the bullshit. So what do you think? It's going to happen. But we. It's almost like us getting them folding chairs. Y' all remember them folding chairs, right? We gonna come rescue Bubba and them. God damn. You ain't gonna just be. But at the same time, you got Ray Ray on the corner selling dope to your auntie.
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A
Mm. You not talking to him till you.
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Mom was on the pipe and Reggie responsible. So we don't. We're confused in our thought process. But that was where I think I started to have, like, when I left the club. It wasn't because I don't love people. I mean, obviously, I host essence. I host, you know, Strength of a Woman. I do all these amazing black tent pole events. Right. And that's purposeful because I want to be aligned. Like, I love people. I do not want to entertain. I'm the best to do it. I don't have no records. I don't. But if any artist is on the same stage, they're gonna think about, okay, Kenny's here. I gotta make sure I do the thing, because this nigga's gonna come out. Yes, do my song.
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Literally.
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B
So anyway, I want to keep that energy, but I also want to be who I'm supposed to be. Not even just for my family and my children, but for the people that look to me. How am I going to be outside with a booth full of women and I'm married. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's not. Doesn't. And I was like that for a long time. Not that I was doing anything with anybody, but the look. Y' all was in the booth. Yeah, but it's like. Yeah, but they don't know, like, our relationship and how I winged y' all and we had real, you know, camaraderie for each other versus the look.
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Exactly. That's a real thing for perspective is everything. And other people look at something like.
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B
But they're gonna look at it like, oh, he got on. No, that's Pat. That's not me. That's Patrick Richards. That is not me.
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A
Shout out, Pat.
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B
Shout out. Pushy P. Man. One of my favorites, man. So. But that's another thing, too. Like, when you look at life, like, who are you putting in position? Look at Pat now.
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A
Oh, my goodness.
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B
You know what I'm saying? And that's what I'm most proud of. Things like that even you, like, speaking life into you, or like, whomever I've come across has felt the energy and used it, whether they did what I asked them to do or told them they should do, they've taken a piece of the energy and applied it.
- [25:34]
A
I love that. I love that you spoke about you talking to executive, saying, hey, would you want your son listening to this? I know you have two beautiful sons. Play basketball.
- [25:46]
B
Make me cry. N. Don't make me. What? I'm just playing.
- [25:50]
A
No. And you. Your family just went through something crazy. Crazy.
- [25:54]
B
Can you. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. My son, Kyle Burns, graduated Wheeler high school, spring 2022. He reported in June, wasn't feeling well. I think starting at the end of June. Came home a couple times. Well, you know, not talking about it because it was like, I got headaches or whatever. I'm gonna keep it moving. A good friend of the family and actually the son of his high school coach died shooting the hooch and drowned. And he came home for the funeral. And literally the morning of the funeral, he couldn't get out of bed. And it was 8am took him to the hospital. One o', clock, he was in surgery. Had a brain abscess that was caused by a sinus infection. Yep. So if your babies are cold too long, sinusy, go to the doctor. I never heard of anything like this. You know what I'm saying? So I'm out of town, get the call, he's in surgery. Just is like, damn, they're passing out on FaceTime. I'm like, wait, let me get. You know, So I was on the way, and, you know, the first surgery, they didn't get it all, so they had to go do another surgery two weeks later. So this is cutting his skull off of his head and literally him being without a skull to January 4th of this year, got a fake skull put back on. And literally last Monday, he got home from Japan, where he played his first three games in a row, not even a year. August 27 was the first surgery last year, so not even a. A full year ago. And he's a miracle. But, you know, I had never been tested. And to be honest with you, I'm great. You turn into a great interviewer. You want to add this to your Chiron or whatever. But I literally changed again, right? Like, and for the better. Because my entire life, I had blinders on. Meaning, like, I would compartmentalize everything. Literally, though. Like, literally. Oh, shit. I would feel it. I would feel it just so I could. Oh, shit. This okay. But I would put it away. And I think us, as black men and black women, we do that because of what we have to do. Now, mind you, this whole year, my son was going through his thing. And I'm talking about this. This was life or death. This wasn't like, you know, this was like, he could go. And I'm having to go show up and host and, you know, be this light and be this energy, right? And to this day, a lot of people still don't ask me. I mean, they see him, oh, I'm glad he's all right. But they have no clue what it took to show up every time I got to show up. But in saying that, though, you know, people look at the burns, it's like, they're going to be all right. And I'm sure a lot of people out there feel this. Like, oh, they doing good. They going to be all right. And you know what we are. And, you know, I received that, and I take that as a blessing. I don't try and judge. I told Jessica the other day, if we judge everybody for their lack of consistency, we would have no friends. But that's life. And you're not supposed to put what you would do on somebody else. You're just not supposed to do that. You know what I mean? Because everybody can't handle what you can handle. And that's life. And life be lifein', child. Hello.
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A
During that time, I know just naturally, your faith was strength.
- [29:10]
B
Oh, yeah?
- [29:12]
A
Like, how did you work through that? Besides just keep pushing through and showing up?
- [29:15]
B
Prayed, you know, received all the prayer energy from the warriors out there that had us and never really wavered from what was gonna be. You know what I'm saying? Because in life, it's either or. And that's drastic, but it's the truth, you know? And we're getting older. We gonna lose people, y', all. You hear me? Every week, every week, Clarence Avon. Just like every week, we're losing superheroes. We're losing family members. You know, that year my father died, January 1, 2022. You know, Kyle had his surgeries. Kenny tore his ACL. You know, diagnosis for friends with cancer. I mean, it's life, you know, but one thing you cannot do is do the woe is me. You know, we gonna catch haymakers, y'. All. We gonna catch things that test our faith, test our, you know, abilities to. To continue. Yeah, Like, I was telling just the other day, how much money we got. Okay. Paid everything. Okay. Okay. Cause I'm just, you know, you get tired. I'm not. And I said this the other day, and somebody was in my dean, you ain't quitting. You can't quit. We need you. Nigga, fuck you talking about? And so I'm not quitting. But I think, like, you know, to our conversation before we start the podcast, I'd rather be heard. You know, this scene thing is, it comes with a lot. And I'm not even with. Like, I don't do what you do. Like, I'm not even, you know, rumored to have seen this, that, and the third, with this, that, and the third, and I don't have those. But I'm very, you know, I think I'm probably the most noticeable non celebrity in the world.
- [30:45]
A
Absolutely.
- [30:46]
B
And I feel like, though it gets heavy because you only see the good time, Kenny. And I'm tired of being good time Kenny. I'm not tired of giving you a good time. I'm not tired of the jokes.
- [30:57]
A
Expectation.
- [30:58]
B
Yeah, man, come on, let me be human.
- [31:02]
A
You don't want that expectation of every time you walk in a room. All right?
- [31:06]
B
Make us laugh, you know, tell a joke. And I'm not even comedian, although my comedic timing has been amazing in the last decade.
- [31:14]
A
Precise. Very much so. No, you are funny. I know that can be annoying at.
- [31:20]
B
Yeah, you know, you just want to also to again, align. You know, you grow and evolve, and the things that you adore, you no longer adore. Like you. I adored the streets. I was so thankful for having learned the things I learned. I'm still thankful, but I'm not condoning anything else. Street. Like, I would give the hustler the benefit of the doubt, but you gotta transform my brother, my sister. You can't continue. And then, you know, we don't even have honest hustlers anymore.
- [31:45]
A
We got thieves, literally thieves and scammers.
- [31:48]
B
Like, we got thieves and scammers. Like, where's the audacity to hustle if you're in the street and you got one way and you can get this amount to get this amount, I'm not going to hate on you. But once you get this amount, you have to do the thing. You have to do the thing. And I know I've saved so many lives because of my example, but not even just my example, my actual tutelage. I've given people the game. I've created opportunities for them to transition. But to know better and not do better, I just can't go. I can't go anymore.
- [32:17]
A
I love that it's the evolution of Kenny Burns. I'm loving it. You talked about having to show up and put a smile on, especially when you're going through the things with your son, Kyle. I was just. I had Eva Marcel on recently, and we were talking that morning before she had pulled up. I was in my closet crying, going through some things personally. And then you literally have to wipe the tears off, Literally tell yourself, shake it off. And then go out and like, hey, put a smile on your face. And that gets really heavy. And a lot of people don't see that side of our lives, especially people who are in the public eye. They think that everything is just so sweet. And I try to be more transparent about the days that I'm not so happy so that people can see that, oh, like, she doesn't have every day is not perfect for her either, you know?
- [33:12]
B
But I will give you some advice with that. Please don't share everything. And I say that because to give people an opportunity to comment opens up a Pandora's box sometimes, especially in our world. And I feel like a trusted circle of people to springboard and bounce things off of is the way to go. And I would honestly encourage more of the mystique because, you know, to know you obviously, like I do is to see the inner light and the things that people don't get to see all the time. But at the same time, it's kind of cool that people don't even know all the time and leave them guessing. Because one thing we have to accept in our business is they gonna talk, child. They gonna have some opinions, child. They gonna just be like, okay, but your fingernail polish is chipped.
- [33:57]
A
Right?
- [33:58]
B
Whatever.
- [33:58]
A
Life and life be life, life gonna life.
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B
But we can't control that in nor. So we put ourselves in position to have to accept any of that.
- [34:07]
A
That's so true.
- [34:07]
B
And again, it's about your circle. I know you've been outside long enough to know what flawed individuals look like, and there's a lot of them. And we are flawed ourselves at times.
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A
Absolutely.
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B
But if you try to try to please, you'll be in the people pleasing Business instead of the crystal business.
- [34:32]
A
That's so true. Thank you for that. Thank you. I appreciate it.
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B
You owe nobody. You don't owe nobody nothing.
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A
I don't owe nobody.
- [34:42]
B
No, I'm talking about family members. Because let me tell you how life works.
- [34:44]
A
Tell me.
- [34:45]
B
It be your people, man. It'd be your people.
- [34:47]
A
Be your own people.
- [34:48]
B
It be your people people. And we don't choose certain people as family or friends, but it'd be your people.
- [34:54]
A
Yeah.
- [34:55]
B
So you just gotta. Don't put them in the box. The one thing I regret is, you know, has nothing to do with that, but has everything to do with. As I matured in the business and I grew, you know, we all chasing something, right? Especially when you're defining who you are because you don't know who you are from the dough. It's a continuance of, like, figuring you out. In the process, you're making money. You have relationships. The one thing, man, is like, when you have great relationships, hold on to those relationships. A lot of things are circumstantial.
- [35:27]
A
Yes.
- [35:27]
B
No, A lot of things are circumstantial. And you're cool with the people you're around a lot in this moment. But don't leave, you know, those friendships. Now, real friendships are going to be intact. I have all of my friendships from day one intact. But a lot of things gets confusing as you grow. But these people in your immediate circle aren't always your friends. Just because y' all on set and you're doing these things and you're around these people, you have to keep your core. Your core.
- [35:50]
A
Yeah, that's so true. And I recently have gone through a purging season where I realized that people that had been in my life for years weren't happy for me. And it's like we started the same place, and then it's like, I'm ascending, ascending, ascending. And that person's still where we started. Or they may have grown a little bit, but not to the magnitude that I have. And it becomes this jealousy and envy.
- [36:10]
B
Fuck them. Everybody can't go.
- [36:12]
A
That's what my therapist is said. She's like, literally, everybody can't go.
- [36:15]
B
I hope she said them, too. She didn't say, you don't owe them nothing.
- [36:18]
A
Yeah, you don't.
- [36:19]
B
If you had a friendship. That's what I'm trying to tell. If you had a friendship, you going to be friends. If it was never a friendship, it's going to rear its head.
- [36:31]
A
Speaking of friendships, now that we're on that topic, how do you maintain and nourish the friendships that you built in this industry? Because I know navigating this industry can be catty. You meet a lot of fake people.
- [36:43]
B
You sure you want this?
- [36:44]
A
S. Yes, I want it.
- [36:49]
B
I don't have many friends in this industry. I have a lot of acquaintances. I have a lot of transactional relationships, which is totally fine. I can count on one hand how many friends I have in this industry, and it's okay. But I think people should know that this is a transactional world, not just business. 90% of your relationships are transactional. But see, we don't understand that. We don't understand the value in that. I understand the value of it. The only thing that's changing with me now. I understand the relationships are transactional. But I'm not gonna fuck with you if you can't be aligned with my purpose and passion.
- [37:26]
A
I love that.
- [37:27]
B
And it's not even. It's for sanity. It's for association. You know, I don't know if you youngins know, but they're creating this gang bill that if you're affiliated, you're a part of the shit. Just like Doug and them got caught up in that. Absolutely.
- [37:44]
A
Wow.
- [37:44]
B
And I, you know, I had said something on the earn your leisure podcast where I was talking about a percentage, you know, of crime went down. I'm talking about, like, 30% of murders went down when certain gang members got locked up.
- [37:57]
A
Wow.
- [37:58]
B
But guess what? At the end of the day, something changed when that happened. You have to change like that in your relationships, though.
- [38:06]
A
You're right.
- [38:07]
B
If you're associated with people that are not good for you or not aligned with what you're doing. I tell my male partners all the time, yeah, you go, but you know what he do, right? You know how he get down. Okay, cool. As long as you know.
- [38:21]
A
Right.
- [38:21]
B
But you're subject to, like, losing time. We don't have time to get back.
- [38:26]
A
No, we don't.
- [38:27]
B
So any choices that you make in that realm, you're sacrificing time. Time is not. It's fleeting. It's not on our side. We're not here forever.
- [38:34]
A
Wow.
- [38:36]
B
It could derail your whole life.
- [38:38]
A
Literally. Literally.
- [38:40]
B
I bet if them executives was a part of them rico's and on them murder cases, they wouldn't sign.
- [38:45]
A
They sure wouldn't be signing us. Then they would change what the rappers they've been rapping about.
- [38:50]
B
I bet the entire world would change if that one little piece changed.
- [38:54]
A
Wow. That's so powerful. And I agree with you. I Do. Did you watch they Cloned Tyrone Child?
- [39:02]
B
I did an episode. It inspired me so much. It was black satire.
- [39:06]
A
It was.
- [39:06]
B
And it just showed you when they was fighting off the music and then hug when it.
- [39:11]
A
Let's literally when the music changed.
- [39:13]
B
But the chicken, the grape juice, this is a real thing.
- [39:18]
A
It's a real thing.
- [39:19]
B
And we are brainwashed every day. I'm intelligent. I have a value of life spent and shared. But I'm still peeling back the layers on the Onion. I'm still saying, don't like that nigga shit, Kenny. Don't like that nigga shit. You're leaving niggerdom today.
- [39:38]
A
Leave it. That's real.
- [39:40]
B
And I'm 50.
- [39:41]
A
Yeah.
- [39:41]
B
And I'm still trying to get out of some of my ways. But ladies and gentlemen, imagine the ones that aren't as strong.
- [39:46]
A
Wow.
- [39:49]
B
Let's do the 9010 analogy. 90% of the world is going to participate. They're going to follow. They're going to do everything that this small percentage does. And even that 10%, it's only probably 2% that's willing to kill everybody to get the money. You know what I'm saying? Because I believe I'm 1 in the 10% that cares. But I still ain't willing to do certain shit. That's why I'm going to be where I'm at.
- [40:08]
A
Exactly.
- [40:09]
B
I'm going to be where I'm at. I'm defining success for myself. You can have the rest.
- [40:13]
A
Yes, yes, I agree with that. Oof. Unpacking, unpacking. Peeling back the layers of the onion. I love it. How do you. Even from a very young age, you've been in this industry? How did you maintain integrity?
- [40:28]
B
Shit, I never walked to Brooklyn Cheesecake. I was never gonna be put in a position where I was gonna go through door number two.
- [40:34]
A
What would you do there? What would you have done?
- [40:35]
B
Come on. At that age, it had been a fist fight. Fuck your tongue, too, Right? You know what I'm talking about.
- [40:41]
A
Period.
- [40:41]
B
But, like, now, I think, like, you know, we see people dumbing out for the check. It ain't like rap music. It ain't about the art. It's about money.
- [40:52]
A
Literally.
- [40:52]
B
Give me 300,000. You have my. I saw a whole interview where yo Gotti was talking about 360 deals are good. And he was talking about streaming is good. And I'm like, first of all, Napster happened to the business. Do you remember when Napster happened to the business? I do. That's what streaming eventually is. And then they cloned Tyrone mentality would be like, they created all that to get to this. And then you got somebody who's one of the most successful in rap music now saying that all this is good. Come sign this 360, you know, 360 deals take a percentage of everything. Everything. So I'm the label. So basically they funneling the money back around to this. It's a complete circle. It's a complete hamster wheel.
- [41:42]
A
Yeah.
- [41:42]
B
But he literally one of the biggest doing it. So people looking like, yeah, I'm gonna do it. 3.
- [41:47]
A
Cause he's an executive now. But as an artist, he probably wouldn't agree with that.
- [41:50]
B
Not coming from an end. You weren't independent. You were part of the.
- [41:54]
A
Yes.
- [41:55]
B
So.
- [41:55]
A
But now that he has artists and.
- [41:56]
B
Listen, I ain't knocking nobody for getting their hustle. Somebody gonna listen to that buying too it, you know. But as, as a, as a leader in the community, you have to be responsible for these youngins.
- [42:08]
A
Yeah.
- [42:09]
B
But I mean, you know, here's what it is. I'm not going to just be.
- [42:12]
A
Yeah.
- [42:13]
B
Because I'm feeling a little spicy. You got some uncle near. Listen, tear the industry down today.
- [42:20]
A
Today, right here.
- [42:21]
B
Burn this bitch down.
- [42:23]
A
Listen. It would change the world though.
- [42:25]
B
No, listen. We are in the precipice of black culture right now. And if we don't burn down hip hop music specifically and bring it back, we are at risk of losing the soundtrack that has built three generations now. The soundtrack. Now I don't think hip hop culture will leave because there's industry now, fashion, lifestyle.
- [42:53]
A
Yes.
- [42:54]
B
But at the same time we are in, we are at risk of losing a form of music. Do you remember rock music was like the number one music in the world. Rock music is an indie genre. Rock music. And if you look at pop music, it's emulated the best of hip hop and made it theirs.
- [43:15]
A
Yeah.
- [43:15]
B
You got Taylor Swift. Listen to what I'm about to tell you. Everything Taylor do could be pop leaning, but in energy and attitude. It's hip hop. It's hip hop culture. From the dances to the audacity to be something she not everything she represents. But people don't always like adhere to that because we getting money now finally.
- [43:38]
A
Yes.
- [43:39]
B
But guess what if my generation took it to a trillion. Your generation supposed a goddamn in systemic disparities.
- [43:48]
A
Yeah.
- [43:49]
B
In the financial system that we got it to this point. Your generation is supposed to make it equitable for black and brown.
- [43:57]
A
Yes. Yep.
- [43:58]
B
There's no. I mean. But now it's like slavery all over again.
- [44:01]
A
No, literally.
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B
No, literally.
- [44:03]
A
Yeah. It's.
- [44:04]
B
We're slaves. These kids are slaves and ain't even. Let's smoke some weed no more. They want to do the.
- [44:10]
A
They want.
- [44:11]
B
It shuts the organs down.
- [44:12]
A
Yes. To kill them.
- [44:15]
B
You can't even go get no medicine that's gonna kill you. Cause you drink it every day. You're immune.
- [44:21]
A
Yep. Your body's immune.
- [44:22]
B
But these are things like that. This is where I am. And I understand why people get butt naked and move to the woods. Because life get to taking over your mindset.
- [44:31]
A
Yeah.
- [44:31]
B
And you be like, what is going on? And then you're looking at the political sphere. Dumb excuse. I'm sorry. I keep cussing you stupid. You thinking not voting. Cause it ain't gonna matter who the is getting Trump right now. Fannie. Fannie. That's local state government.
- [44:52]
A
Yes.
- [44:53]
B
You think it ain't gonna matter if you show up to the polls. And the one that got him. Listen, I don't know about them other cases. Fannie got him.
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A
Got him.
- [45:01]
B
It's on tape. They not gonna go. Listen to me. White people. And I love my white friends and I'm not talking to all white people, but white people are in fear of losing they race.
- [45:10]
A
Yeah, they are. Oh, yeah.
- [45:11]
B
That's why you see them bucking like they bucking. But guess what happened in Georgia. The same thing that happened when we turned this blue when I was on air and y' all thought I was crazy, talking about why we should vote. Fanny got him. Yeah, Fanny got him.
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A
Got him.
- [45:27]
B
He not getting up out of that one. And all you co conspirators in a rico.
- [45:33]
A
Huh?
- [45:34]
B
Rico. K. Lo K. Huh? Yeah.
- [45:39]
A
Yeah.
- [45:39]
B
You get locked up too, Rudy, you old bastard. And I think he was essential in the RICO bill in creating the rico. He was a part of the thing. But like, y' all don't understand why voting's important.
- [45:54]
A
So important. They don't. They do not.
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B
I love you.
- [45:58]
A
You are so. I love this.
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B
I'm sorry.
- [46:00]
A
Kenny's on fire. I love it. I love it. You have a very solid friendship with D. Nice.
- [46:07]
B
Yes.
- [46:07]
A
How did that turn. That friendship turn to business? Because now you guys are like. It's almost like your own group.
- [46:12]
B
Yeah. Nice. And Burns is a real thing.
- [46:14]
A
Yes, a real thing.
- [46:15]
B
Anytime we link up, it's magic. Very proud of what he's been able to do. I mean, I. I never would have done Kennedy Center, Apollo, Carnegie Hall. I mean, venues where. I mean, not Apollo, but those other venues where black people couldn't perform. You Know, we actually did the Apollo and one of the OGs, I think it was like 70 something. He's like, this is one of the best performances that the Apollo's ever seen. I'm like, shut up. I don't mean to disrespect you, og, but shut the fuck up. You had Motown this motherfucker. You had hip hop in the earth. You mean that? This was one of the best.
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A
Listen.
- [46:52]
B
So I don't, you know, think I would have got those opportunities without my brother. So I'm proud, I'm thankful. I love what he's created with his movement, and he deserves it. You know, thinking something into fruition is what happened with D. Nice. Before the Pandemic hit, he was already doing White House and, you know, the big black tent pole events, like we were both doing together. But this thing he used to say to me all the time, I want to be the biggest black DJ playing black. You know, EDM was going crazy, and everybody was $200,000 to show up like siesto and all the mother getting paid. D used to always say, I want to be that.
- [47:27]
A
Yeah.
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B
I'm like, we can.
- [47:29]
A
Yes, and we will.
- [47:30]
B
We did it by ourself, and I love it. And I'm happy for him. And without him, you know, we wouldn't have got through Covid so easy. Especially when you think about. He said something crystal. I want to be the biggest black DJ playing black music.
- [47:45]
A
Huh? Yeah.
- [47:47]
B
Where do you go from there? Like, and you did it.
- [47:50]
A
Did it, like, literally.
- [47:52]
B
And you were on the island with us in the middle of nowhere, child. Doing the. But I got the footage. Insert here.
- [47:57]
A
Literally insert. That was a fun weekend, man.
- [48:00]
B
That was so beautiful.
- [48:01]
A
But it was my first time experience.
- [48:02]
B
It was black and it was excellent. And we were fish out of water. Literally. Literally fish. You know what I'm talking about? But, like, in a different place in time, in that moment was for us. And that's the beauty that Dee has been able to create for himself and we've been able to create together.
- [48:16]
A
I love that. I love that you are an entrepreneur. You built your own empire. You're not easily placed in a box. You have the Kimmy Burton Show. You do your emceeing thing. You're an investor in Uncle Nearest LS Cream Liquor series.
- [48:32]
B
A investor. All y' all who keep asking me what I do. Huh? Well, what you do with Uncle Nearest the fuck funded the initial funds.
- [48:40]
A
I know that's. Tell them, hey, that's different.
- [48:44]
B
And I started at 75 cent a share. It's now worth 29.
- [48:48]
A
Talk about it.
- [48:50]
B
What you doing? What you doing with. Huh? Ask. Ask me another question. That's my first spirit investment. I have four more. Okay.
- [49:00]
A
All right. What's up?
- [49:02]
B
You have Boost of Vodka Bias, part of Spirit Spearhead Spirits, which is a company just gonna own 10 of.
- [49:09]
A
Come on. And then him and his wife own 10.
- [49:12]
B
And we have Ellis Cream Liqueur, which is a Haitian Cremos inspired cream liqueur. We own 10 of that as well.
- [49:18]
A
Love that. I know. That's right.
- [49:20]
B
Yeah.
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I need to come. I need to come to Love Landing, get some investment advices.
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B
Yes. I love Feet in the Grass. And love.
- [49:27]
A
Yeah.
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B
It's a thing.
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A
I can't wait. I cannot wait. I know this business can be gruesome, and having a hold of your mental and emotional wellness is key. What does someone like Kenny Burns do? Do you do have a therapist? Do you.
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B
No. You know, y' all won't just judge me if you like to. I don't.
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A
No judgment. This is a judgment.
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B
No, judge me. I want you to. I want you to be in the comments. I don't really. I think therapy is good. I think it's always good to have someone to talk to. The thing about people that get paid for it, though, is that they won't keep telling you shit to come back. It's just my observation. It's just my observation. I have a wife, and my wife is my therapist because she's also my biggest love hater. So I don't never get the yes, Kenny shit. You know what I'm talking about? So I get the truth, and I need the hurtful truth sometime I need the shit that's gonna just jiggle my spine because people like to tell you things and try to ease it on.
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A
Yeah.
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In you they do. You know what I'm saying, Paul? But the thing. The thing about it is you need the truth. See, you need the truth and not a matter of fact truth in response to something you might ask in the form of a question and answer. But you're tripping.
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A
Yeah.
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B
You know, you shouldn't have did that.
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A
Wow.
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B
So, you know, I believe in therapy with the people that I love and I know love me the best and have my best interest. I don't believe in, like, sitting down with someone I don't know and need to get to know and tell them about my problems immediately. Not that it's bad. And whoever does it, if you find that you might not have those relationships, it works. But yeah. And I Also, don't take things so literally. You know, again, I said that. I said earlier in our conversation that this is a transactional world as far as relationships are concerned. And I'm okay with that. I used to get a little bit annoyed when people I felt I loved important to, didn't love important to me back. Human quality. But I don't really take anything too personal. I'm damn sure not about to dwell in it.
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A
I know that's right.
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B
Yeah. I got to get to it. I don't have a lot of time.
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A
You don't? No, no. None of us do.
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B
None of us do.
- [51:43]
A
No, we don't. I see that you work out a lot. Shout out. Yeah. You know, Mr. Shut up and train. 50. 50 where?
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B
Take this motherfucking face, put it against other 50 year old bodies and don't have me show you my nipple. They got a little thing under it. Yeah. Let's call her. Let's call her. You know what I'm talking about. I just. You know What? Before my 40th birthday, I decided that health is. Well, you know, I live life for a living and the things that come with it. So you gotta have balance.
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A
No, you definitely have to have balance. You do. We touched on your family, but your wife, who I just adore. Fun fact.
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B
She the coldest.
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A
I hadn't. She is. I had never met Jessica until the season one premiere of Sistas.
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B
Really?
- [52:31]
A
Yeah. You all came together. But.
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B
Oh, at downtown.
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A
Yes. I would always see her, like on your Instagram. And just the way she carried herself without even knowing her. When I finally got to meet her, I just pulled her aside and I said, I just want to tell you, like, when I look at you, I'm like, that's how I want to carry myself. Oh, my gosh. She is just. And then once I got to know her, I'm like, oh, my gosh, she's amazing.
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B
She's so good.
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A
Yeah. But like, just the way that her presence is. Without saying a word.
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B
Yeah. You know, it's a superpower of hers. I always say that Jessica could care less about all this energy everybody loves. She could care less. And it doesn't impress her, the people I know. I remember leaving Sean Combs Wine and spirits. I started Elantra Vault 2013, moved them to LA.
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A
I remember that.
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B
Yeah. And so, you know, story time. And so we were literally. I used to go to work telling her, I might fight him today. I'm gonna close this door. One person walk. And it got to the point where it was like, I'm leaving.
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A
Oh, man.
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B
And so I never forget. I literally went and met with dia. Each other. DSM's love her to death. And I told Andre. I was like, I'm leaving. I can't. Because it's just ego at this point. It's not even work.
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A
You know what I mean?
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Like, I can't even get off the superhero shit that I got to get off. And so I'm glad I did. Because two months later, I got the uncle nearest deal. So look at God.
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A
Wanna do it.
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B
But I had literally went home. I told her I was like, today, you know, I quit. I hadn't been telling you I'm quitting. And she's like, all right, what they paying you? And I was like, you know what? I ain't even talk about that. Because I'm the type person I walk away from eight gazillion dollars. Cause I don't feel right. She said, you need to call them and figure out this bag. Cause, you know, moved your family out here. Now, mind you, I probably would have got to that a day or two later, but it was fresh. And she was like, don't let that shit get today. But that's what I love most about her. Cause it's all. It always has been about what's best for us as a family. And she's never wavered with relationships or been impressed with the shit. I couldn't have had that. You know what I mean? And then she has her own. Like, she's getting her masters from Howard, and she has her own thing she does for her that not only keeps me like, damn, you getting doper. Like, how you get doper? I told her that. I said, I don't even know what love is. I think I need a stronger word. Cause a level of appreciation when you have kids, go through what we went through this last year with our youngest son, and just who we are to people. We in first class the other day. I didn't mean to say first class, like it was a thing. But we on a plane and this guy. And I want to know who you are, sir. He in a mask, glasses, hat, but he black. He got. You know, he got some. You know, he knows something about something.
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A
Yeah, yeah.
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B
So we get separated. Cause I didn't pay attention to the ticket. So she's sitting in 3A, I'm sitting in 3D. And we get off the plane. And the guy says to me, yo, keep going, man. I love you. Know what you're doing now, Mind you, I get this. And I love It. And thank you. Please don't stop. Right. Because knowing that I affect you and this is not party shit. Good time Kenny. Shit. This is what you're doing on your podcast, how you're showing up in culture with your family.
- [55:49]
A
Shit.
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B
He literally was like that. And so we walk into things. Jessica's like, you know, he was sitting next to me when I sat down, he was like, thank you for what you and your husband do. And we get this stuff, though. And it's like, for us, we're being us, right? And, yes, we're trying. The black love thing was intentional. Jessica doesn't do anything. She's been offered Housewives since season two. She's been offered they Want to do Love and Hip Hop Atlanta around me and my crew. Like, we just turned down things because it wasn't about that.
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A
Yes.
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B
And now that we're older, people are like, yo, this is the thing.
- [56:19]
A
Yeah.
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B
Thank you. Because seeing I would be 24 in October. We'll be 24 years married.
- [56:24]
A
Wow.
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B
In October. I'm 50. That's half my life.
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A
Yes.
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B
You know what I'm saying? So you look at that and you're like, the things that were innately us, the things that she poured into me and that I poured into her, are what people love most about us. It's not any of the accomplishments. Obviously, we had to get there through what I did in the industry. But the light has turned on the Things that Matter Most, which is the title of my new book, what Matters Most.
- [56:51]
A
The title of his new book, what Matters Most.
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B
You like the way I brought that together?
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A
I love it.
- [56:55]
B
You better like the Tess. Tyler. I'm here. Tyler, if you see this and you're inspired, I'm here, brother. You know what I mean? It's something that we could do.
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A
Definitely something.
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B
But I think that's what life's about. What matters most. You can't go through life and think that it's material things or being in a certain relationship pool that's going to define you and your success. You have to define it for yourself. And ultimately you have to grow into it, too. We get lost in. It's going to be this way immediately. No. You know how long it took me to get here? I'm still. I just told you. I'm peeling them layers back.
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A
Yes.
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B
Still. I want to not be a. I want to not say the word, but I can't stop saying, cuz sometimes be nigg. You know what I'm talking about?
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A
I know what you talking about. Listen to.
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B
We all Works in progress, y'. All we are hello. Ain't nobody better than other we might know more than you so sometimes you need to listen what you see Sometimes you need to listen.
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A
They need to listen.
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B
That's all.
- [57:53]
A
That's it.
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B
Because I'm listening, and you are.
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A
And I see how you're growing and you're listening, and you're like. You're peeling back the layers. It's beautiful. It is. Jessica has. She's the author of a book called Golden Guidance. Actually have a copy of it. And it's a book of reflections of self, love, faith, healing, and growth. Being that you both are entrepreneurs, how do you guys balance and support each other's vision and growth?
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B
Question. Well, first of all, a little story time. She gave me Acts of Faith when we first started dating.
- [58:24]
A
Really?
- [58:24]
B
The book Acts of Faith by Ayan Lavanza. And I don't read. I mean, of course I read, but I'm not a. You know, I'm not been. I would read this book, and I'm like, oh. And so that kind of started defining who we were going to be. So it was pouring into. Right. Like, in support again. I. I quit Cones, wine and spirit. I was making a lot of money. And she was like, all right, let's go. The other day, I was like, how much money? I told you. And she's like, what, you wanna sell all this property and just get moved to a company? What you wanna do? I'm like, oh. Cause we almost empty nestus. Almost. Yeah. But it's like, do you. You know, it's like, what you wanna do because you prove in a relationship who you are in a relationship.
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A
Yeah. Wow.
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B
Don't let that go over your head. And people, a lot of times don't know the value of proving yourself to your partner. But once you get on that plateau, that plane, like, when you get on that literal, like, playing field and it's even, there's no more proving it's everything you want it to be. And yes, in relationships, you have to prove yourself to your partner. How you think you gonna gain trust? How you think you're gonna get to a certain point in life together?
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A
Yeah.
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B
Cause guess what, y'. All, the reason people don't stay together is because they grow apart. You got to grow together. And so we've always been in tandem like that. And even when she didn't understand, she trust that I would.
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A
Yes.
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B
She trusted I would get it together, and I took the responsibility because that's who I am. Yeah, but you have to have yin And Yang, everybody's not going to be able to be, you know, the. The one who makes the money. You can't. Like, seldom do I see relationships and big shout out to the ones that do. I admire you. But seldom do you see where, like, the money's equal, but the value is not money in a relationship. But the value is not money. It's what are you doing for your family, how are you progressing as a unit? And that's where people go. My career, I'm a sacrifice. All this shit for what I gotta do. Cause I ain't. No, that's not a conducive trait for a relationship.
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A
That's true.
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B
You gotta be in tandem. And I think the fact that we've been in tandem, the fact that she's supported everything I've ever wanted to do.
- [60:27]
A
Wow.
- [60:27]
B
I've supported everything she wanted to do. But it's one time job. She wanted to do hair.
- [60:34]
A
You was not having. You wasn't with her.
- [60:36]
B
No. Just 12 hours a day. Gone. But she learned from it, you know. But that's how you grow. You don't just. It's not magic. It don't just be magical all the time.
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A
Yeah.
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B
You gotta go through some things.
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A
Yeah.
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B
But quitting. Quitting is what people think is the answer a lot of times.
- [60:55]
A
Wow.
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B
You know, and if you friends, I want to say this. If you friends, you might want to work that shit out. Cause if you're friends, there's nothing you really can't get over.
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A
Right. Wow. That's real. I needed that.
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B
You know I'm here, baby. You know, God has a mysterious way of showing up.
- [61:17]
A
He really does. No, you really just spoke to me.
- [61:20]
B
It be through people. It be goddamn hummingbirds show up at your window. Whatever it is, you gotta pay attention to the signs. We do.
- [61:27]
A
It could be Kitty Mars on your couch just dropping nuggets.
- [61:29]
B
Because I'm comfortable. Child, all I need is a goddamn acai bowl. This is too comfortable. What we watching next, right? Is it premier satima, right?
- [61:41]
A
Soon. I can't talk about it though, because you're on strike.
- [61:43]
B
Oh, my bad.
- [61:43]
A
So you said it. I didn't say it.
- [61:46]
B
Yeah, yeah, I did say about that motherfucking strike.
- [61:48]
A
Oh, yeah. Like we literally cannot talk about past, present, future projects.
- [61:53]
B
Really?
- [61:53]
A
Nothing?
- [61:53]
B
Yeah, well, I'm talking about it. God damn it, Tyler. What I want to happen is.
- [62:02]
A
We talked about your investments. How did you even. Because in our community, I mean, even for me, like, I'm just getting into it, learning about it. Still trying to understand the contracts, especially when you get into it early before it goes public.
- [62:14]
B
Right.
- [62:15]
A
Can you just tell us a little bit about that? Just for our community even understand how do you get into investment?
- [62:20]
B
Sure, yeah. How I got into investing in spirits was that I was in spirits before I became an owner.
- [62:26]
A
Right.
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B
I was in the clubs. Heavy. And you remember the great goose days. So I created influencer programs that all spirit companies use. I feel like I was the beta for that because I don't know if you remember my 35th birthday party at the Versace Mansion. You might not have been outside outside yet, but I had more at Hennessy pay for the entire thing. So all of my best friends and I stayed in Versace Mansion except Gianni's room because the bed was 35ft long. And you just.
- [62:56]
A
Oh, wow.
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B
Yeah, it's kind of the energy was a little.
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A
Right.
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B
But that party kind of put me on the map of like, how does this non celebrity bring all these people to the Vertace Mansion? And then more importantly, how do we spend $200,000 on this party for this non celebrity? So that's when they were kind of flirting with the idea of people outside of celebrity having access and being able to move the needle.
- [63:24]
A
Yes.
- [63:25]
B
So then fast forward Grey Goose wanted to go against the Ciroc flavors and came to the market and was like, look, we have La Ronge Lapois. We want to get into the, you know, the. I'm sorry, we're in the flavors game, but we want to compete.
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A
Yes.
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B
They're like, we're gonna give you this opportunity. And what you do with the opportunity will, you know, tell our Future together. Went up 90, 498%. Whoa. In the market in six months. But it was cheap. It was cheating. I had the world famous compound, all the clubs, listen, I'm at the table, y' all in the booth, we popping bottles like crazy. Then of course, that world famous thing happened with Puff where he came and threw ice, had us in my booth. I was like, fuck y' all light skinned niggas. Y' all ain't shit. Y'.
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A
All.
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B
We not supporting so rock. Cause we got our own shit, like so. But anyway, that you can go to YouTube channel and watch it. Ti just came home from having Beirut in his trunk. It was a whole thing. So. Yeah, but it was those things that kind of like, you know, kept me kind of wanting to be an owner. And then when I went to launch Revolt Television, I told you, I transferred into the Combs wine and spirit side. So, you know, Apple Ciroc was my launch. Mango was my launch. Deli on Tequila was my launch. And then after things didn't work out, you know, I just kept my arms open to receive. And because I was in the spirit world, you know, my reputation preceded me. And someone came to me and was like, on a golf course, which I do not golf. Until now.
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A
I bet I heard a lot of shout the ping.
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B
But, yeah, but, yeah, they were like, I'm investing. It was a VC group that was investing in Uncle Near. So you have to meet this woman, Fallen Weaver.
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A
And I was like, she's dynamic.
- [65:09]
B
Yeah. Had no idea how dynamic she was. I was like, sure. So I go. I meet her in Nashville. Go to Shelbyville. I'm sorry. Go to Lynchburg first. Walk the Hollow land. The original bottle, actually of Uncle Near's has a house on the front, and it's called the Dan Call Farm. Fawn bought that farm underneath Jack Daniel's nose. She was telling me the story and all this gangster shit she was doing. That's why to this day, she always laughs like, you gangster. So she bought that. She, you know, took me through the storytelling. We sipped water from the original creek that Jack Daniels was making whiskey. So we was going through this whole thing, and by the time we got to where it was an equestrian ranch that is now nearest Green distillery, she was talking about, you know, we just bought this, too. We're gonna build this distillery and all. So I'm like, yeah, man, what's up? I want 10% of the company. She's like, I can't give you 10% of the company, but I give you some shares that you will just fall in love with. And I was like, all right, cool. She called me a week later. She was like, here are the shares. I had never been offered anything in my life.
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A
Yeah.
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B
When someone says, you know, a couple hundred thousand shares, like, oh, yeah, of course. Ownership.
- [66:20]
A
Yeah. Yes.
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B
Remember what I said earlier about the 75 cent versus $29?
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A
And then do the math.
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B
So then I was like, you know, cool. But my job was kind of like. You remember we did the Breakfast Club together for. Oh, we did that whole run. And, you know, Instagram started going crazy. But the beauty of that entire investment was that not only was it history, but I met, like, someone I wanted to be like. Like, I wanted to be like, Andrew. Yeah. She's younger than me.
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A
Wow.
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B
She's like four years younger than me, I think. But, like, I just, like, I call her my spirit animal because it's like, you a cold Dropout. You, like, took your life, you know what I'm saying, and put it in a chokehold and did what the you wanted with it. Like, I mean, you look at, like, I'm. I'm talking about day one. Like, they had the brand concept and idea, but they hadn't launched anything.
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A
Yeah.
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B
I was there day one.
- [67:12]
A
That's amazing.
- [67:13]
B
Yeah. So, you know, look at her growth and who she is, the culture and what it was just opened my eyes to a different way of doing business from that. LS Cream came through our incubator program at Uncle Near's. That's not through our program, but Font and I invested independent of. Of the incubator program. Also, the Spearhead Spears opportunity came through the incubator program, which they passed on because they already bought into a gin, but that came through. So she's been the gift that keeps on giving in a relationship, you know, kind of way. We're more brother and sister. We don't do a lot of business. I mean, you know, she is gonna announce very soon. Damn. I was just about to say it. I'm glad I didn't move my mouth. But she just made a play. That's. I mean, she'll be the seventh largest spirit company in the world. Yeah. And that's, like, ironic. Six years.
- [68:07]
A
That's crazy. Yeah.
- [68:09]
B
Seven years. It'll be seven years. That's coming.
- [68:10]
A
That's not a long time.
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B
So, yeah, it's just been a blessing. And I'll continue to align myself. Back to your original question. With things that are part of what I do. I suggest any entrepreneur, you know, align yourself with things you love, align yourself with things that you're actively doing. Eventually. When I don't drink, I think I'll probably stop drinking one day. I'll sell my portfolio. But I'll always align myself with things that I'm passionate about, because those are the things that have worked for me. I'm not one to just. I mean, Jessica dabbles with stocks and our portfolio on that side, but she's very, you know, strategic about what she's doing. So I don't really suggest doing anything you don't love. I would be very passionate about it, and I would, you know, because being passionate about it means you want to know about it and stay up on it.
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A
Exactly.
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B
That's the big deal when it comes to investing.
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A
I love that.
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B
Thank you.
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A
Thank you so much, Kitty. I appreciate you, for sure.
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B
This is going to go crazy.
- [69:12]
A
No, it's going to go crazy, guys. Thank you so much. We do what we call positive outcomes.
- [69:21]
B
Yes.
- [69:21]
A
And this is where they write in to us and ask us for advice, and we just give them the best we can.
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B
Absolutely.
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A
And says, hey, Crystal, last year I saw your BMW uncorked interview, and it literally changed my life. I was having a really tough time dealing with a career that I knew wasn't for me, especially knowing that I was meant to be doing something more. You talked about pivoting careers and being in a season of pouring into yourself, which is something that I need to work on. But I believe God often uses people to speak to others. And that day, he definitely used you to speak to me because that was the moment I felt this flooded. This was a flood of emotions and a voice that said that it was okay to go after my dreams of being a graphic designer, video editor. And that feeling hasn't gone away. But in pursuing my passion, I'm finding my purpose of life has been turned upside down on multiple occasions. I swear, it seems like every time I turn, I start to gain momentum and there's a major life event that happens. A divorce, multiple deaths in the family, losing my job, you name it. That knocks the wind out of me. Sometimes I feel like I'm so close to my breakthrough, yet so far away. Been there. So my question to you is, how do you find strength, motivation, and the courage to continue pursuing your passion, Walking in your purpose during those moments when it feels like everything is stacked against you? Wow. Oof. First of all, thank you for writing in. And I always tell this story. When I moved to Atlanta to pursue my dreams, it was the hardest year of my life. And if I had have given up, I wouldn't be where I am today. But there was moments where I did where I just like, am I doing the right thing? Did I make the right decision? But I feel like when God plants a seed in you and you know that's what you're supposed to do, you have to keep pushing through it. I know it's hard with. Dealing with. I don't know what it's like to deal with a divorce, but I know that's not something that's easy to navigate. And then dealing with a loss in family and losing your job, that's a lot. But I think if this is something that you really want to do, just keep working at it. Honing in on what it takes to be the best graphic designer and video editor that you can be. But like I say, anything worth getting is not going to be easy. Yeah. What do you think?
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B
I think you should also try and define success for yourself. I think a lot of times we put unnecessary pressures on ourselves. We put unrealistic goals on ourselves. And a lot of things that I find is people don't really appreciate the journey. And you have to appreciate the journey you cannot possibly get to, to, you know, fulfill all of your dreams. Not appreciating each individual small win. So maybe try just like, peeling back, you know, or pulling back, Assessing what your goals are and what you want to do, and find happiness in the things that you can complete and accomplish. You know, we sometimes just. We have this lofty goal of, like, we should be here, or things are going to be perfect and they're not, and we're going to go through things, so. And if you're present in those moments, you're going to feel things, you're going to go through the disappointment. You're going to go through all the things. But at least you have realistic goals that are obtainable because the dreams come when you're not trying to get them.
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A
That's so true. That is so true. They come to you when you're not trying to get them. That's a lot of things in life. It comes when you're not looking for it.
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B
Like your man.
- [72:49]
A
Like my man. That is what happens, though, when you're out there looking, looking, looking. It never comes. As soon as you just chill, like. All right. God, I'm not gonna trip over this. Yeah.
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B
I met you at the basketball game. We gotta go to dinner, play. Looking forward to it. All right.
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A
I love it. I love it. So in closing, we do what is called what I'm going through and. And what I'm growing through.
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B
Love how she moves.
- [73:19]
A
No, y' all can do it then. I would love that.
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B
All of us. Yeah.
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A
Yeah. I really would love that. Yeah. What I'm going through and what I'm growing through. For me, just even, like, the things that we've talked about today, I think one of the things that I'm going through is expanding my portfolio. We talked about investments, learning more about that. And for me, I know that in that space, it's a risk.
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B
Yes.
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A
And I'm not. You have some people that are big risk takers, and then some people are calculated risk takers.
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B
Let me hold on to mine.
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A
Yeah. Hello. So I'mma hold on. I like to hold on to mine, but just get into the space where I do have that big faith to take bigger, big risk, you know, because it's a bigger return when you do. Yeah.
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B
Or you can use Your likeness to have, you know, sweat equity versus monetary input. So those are things to think about too.
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A
Come on now, put me on game. I love that. Is there anything that you're going through and growing through?
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B
Yeah, I'm going through shedding some of the things I was taught, and that's probably been the hardest, hardest thing in my life. Shedding the things that I thought to be the things, you know.
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A
Absolutely.
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B
And I'm growing through it. I think that, you know, you have to. To. To elevate. You have to. To align honestly with your purpose. I think, you know, we get so caught up, you know, and I'm blessed too. Right. So I am speaking from the lens of. I've done a lot of great things to get to where I am. I don't feel any shame at, you know, any point of my journey. Right. You know, shame meaning, like, yeah, shot that.
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A
Right, right, right.
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B
You know, don't have anything in my. On my heart that is keeping. Kept me from growing spiritually. So now it's just growing through, growing through that. Like I said, I want to get rid of all the. I want the. To leave my body. Please leave me. I am tired. I don't want nothing to do with you. I hate you. And I'm growing through it.
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A
That's right. I love it. That's good.
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B
That is so.
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A
Yeah, me too.
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B
But then, you know, of course, I'm in my Cool Whip inside Jello. Hop about that. Pretty light. I don't know if I can let go of all that.
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A
The rest you gotta let go. I love it. We do something where we say, keep it blank, sweetie, or fill in the blank pertaining to the episode. And for this one, I will say keep it unapologetic, sweetie, because one thing I've heard from you this whole time is that you've been unapologetically Kenny Burns.
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B
Ooh, yes. Amen, child. Thank you, Jesus.
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A
Yes, Lord. Shout bye bye.
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B
And if I had to tell somebody. Stop lying to yourself, sweetie. You go a lot further in life a lot quicker.
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A
Wow, that's deep. I love that.
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B
Yeah. We lied to ourselves.
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A
We do. We do.
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B
It's gonna be our. No, it's not. No, it's not. He put his hands on you, he going to put his hands on you again. Oh, twice. Three, four times. Oh, you steal that. No, it's not.
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A
No, no, it's not.
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B
It's not there certain shit. You can't lie to yourself.
- [76:36]
A
You cannot. Yeah. You got to be honest with yourself. That's so true.
- [76:38]
B
Now, one day, you could wake up. It's like, I'm not bloated and you're bloated. That's not a lie. That be me.
- [76:49]
A
Like, I look like I want a third trimester. I'm not bloated.
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B
Cut it out.
- [76:53]
A
Sometimes people be bloating.
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B
Oh, trust me. Yeah. Trust me.
- [76:58]
A
I feel you, Kenny. Thank you so much. This has been an amazing episode. You got some comedic chops.
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B
I'm trying.
- [77:05]
A
You do.
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B
I want to add value.
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A
You always.
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B
And I'm proud of you.
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A
I love you. Thank you. I'm proud of you. Thank you. It's beautiful to see your evolution from where we met to where you are now, how your mind is changing. It's very inspiring.
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B
Thank you.
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A
Yes. Guys, I hope you were blessed by this episode as much as I was. I had a really good time today.
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B
Therapy session.
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A
Everybody says that when they sit on cats, they're like, this is a therapy session.
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B
It's pillow.
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A
It's the pillow. The lumbar pillow. If you want to write into our positive outcomes listener letter, you can do exactly whatever you want to do. We're going to watch. We going to take this over. Oh, my gosh. If you want to write into our positive outcomes listener letter, write into keepitpositivesweetiemail.com and that is, sweetie, with an IE you can follow keep it positive on all platforms and you can follow me on all platforms at lovechrystal. Renee. And that's l U V Crystal. Renee. Kenny, Let the people know where they.
- [78:01]
B
Can find you at Kenny Burns.
- [78:03]
A
Easy.
- [78:04]
B
Rest of the. I don't care about.
- [78:06]
A
Tap in with him. He's doing amazing things. You have a podcast. Podcast. The Kenny Burns show, guys. He's always touching on amazing topics. Tap in with my brother as well. I love you guys. And in the meantime, you know what to do. Keep it positive, sweetie.