Help Is On The Way with Kountry Wayne

Summary

Podcast Summary: Keep It Positive, Sweetie

Episode: Help Is On The Way with Kountry Wayne

Host: Crystal Renee Hayslett
Guest: Kountry Wayne
Date: September 26, 2023

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Main Theme & Purpose

This episode centers around comedian, entrepreneur, and author Kountry Wayne and the lessons from his new book, Help Is On The Way: Stand Up and Live Your Truth. Wayne and host Crystal Renee Hayslett dive into his unconventional journey from small-town Georgia hustler and young father to viral comedy sensation, his steadfast faith, fatherhood, navigating pain through humor, and candid advice on personal growth, faith, relationships, self-worth, and healing. The episode is rich with personal stories, unfiltered wisdom, and plenty of humor, all anchored in themes of authenticity, faith, resilience, and purposeful living.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Kountry Wayne's Background: From Hustler to Comedy Star

• Wayne candidly recounts his upbringing in Millen, Georgia, where criminal activity shaped his early life. Both his father and uncle were involved in the drug trade, and Wayne followed suit after high school.
• At 22, he had seven children and was grappling with child support, leading him back to hustling after trying and failing to make ends meet at a “regular” job.
  • “Child support was kicking my ass. Me and my daddy, boy, we'd ride one day...I got borrowed some money, went and bought me a four-way...I ain't looked back ever since.” (04:05)
• His early interest in music (rapping) didn’t pan out, but made way for his true talent in comedy after a Facebook video went viral in 2014.
  • "The video took off, but I didn't take off...But I took off with it. Like, I kept working." (01:15)
• Despite growing internet fame, Wayne continued hustling, using those funds to invest in his comedy and business ventures until his comedy career became fully self-sustaining in 2016.

2. Faith and Personal Transformation

• Wayne’s unwavering faith is woven throughout his narrative. He credits his survival in risky environments and his transformation to believing in Jesus from childhood.
  • "At 6 years old…I was crazy enough to really believe in Jesus.” (10:44)
• He shares personal anecdotes about reading the Bible cover to cover—seven times to date—and the grounding, guiding force it’s been in his life and business.
  • “Once I tapped into that [the Bible], He started getting me out the streets. And when the social media came, I knew what it was.” (13:31)
• Wayne talks about the distinction between “having His word” and “having Him,” and how trusting God’s will removed the limits from his life.

3. Navigating Hardship & Staying Positive

• Wayne describes major dark moments, including financial struggles during the COVID pandemic, nearly going broke while supporting a large family, and contemplating Amazon trucking and selling health supplements to keep afloat.
  • “During the pandemic…I was selling Nutriburst. I had put the tea heat on...I was about to do Amazon routes.” (16:53)
• Through every challenge, Wayne’s focus remained on surrendering his burdens to God and keeping faith.
  • "I give it to God, man. When I get a headache, I give up quick. I'm like, I'm dead, God help me." (16:25)
• He emphasizes that faith—not money or connections—is what ultimately frames his resilience and joy.

4. Authenticity, Origins, and Purpose

• Wayne and Crystal discuss the power of living in your truth and not being ashamed of where you come from, emphasizing that your background is what makes you original.
  • "Don't hide from where you came from. Celebrate it." (22:27)
• Wayne underlines how he brings his faith and personal history into his comedy unapologetically, even when it clashes with industry norms.
  • “If I'm doing something wrong, help me get out. So I need [God] anyway.” (15:51)
• He notes that while people may question his boldness in speaking about Jesus, his continued success proves the value of authenticity.
  • "People want to know, 'Why you always screaming about Jesus?'...Now as they see my life going up, they don't really question no more. They starting to believe.” (23:08)

5. Relationships, Masculinity & Spiritual Vagina

• Wayne shares irreverent but insightful perspectives on masculinity, relationships, the tough-guy persona, and the only way to love a woman: by giving her what God wants for her.
  • “If you give her what God want for her, her soul gonna love you. Even when her flesh mad at you.” (62:27)
• He introduces the concept of the "spiritual vagina," likening deep emotional and spiritual connection to a form of divine intimacy that transcends mere physicality.
  • “Every woman has a spiritual vagina...God is only gonna let a man, a God, touch that. Some women die a virgin. But if you ever find a man who touched that spiritual vagina, your life gonna be changed forever.” (63:08)

6. Fatherhood & Forgiveness

• Open about having ten children with multiple women, Wayne describes how he now provides for and is actively involved in all his children’s lives.
• The conversation delves into generational trauma, forgiveness—especially of his own absent father—and breaking cycles.
  • “He wasn't there, you know, at times of need...But I forgive him for that.” (52:44)
• Wayne explains caring for the mothers of his children as a corrective to his father’s choices, putting the children’s wellbeing first.

7. Business & Financial Wisdom

• “Don’t get mad, get money”—Wayne details how financial independence and helping others (giving) is central to his philosophy.
  • "I give away...about 300, 400 a month. But that 400 a month touched so many people." (43:22)
• He critiques industry norms, emphasizing the importance of building your own platform, not being reliant on industry gatekeepers (especially after pandemic strikes).

8. Success, Critics, & Cultural Reprogramming

• Both Crystal and Wayne talk about not letting the world, critics, or naysayers define personal worth or limit creativity.
  • "I only care what my fans think about my content. I don't care what the industry say." (33:30)
• Wayne humorously critiques the obsession with zodiac signs and pop-psychology, promoting faith instead as the anchor.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Perseverance and Vision:
  “The video took off, but I didn’t take off. But I took off with it. Like, I kept working.” — Kountry Wayne (01:15)

• On Faith and Trials:
  "I give it to God, man. When I get a headache, I give up quick. I'm like, I'm dead, God help me." — Kountry Wayne (16:25)

• On Self-Improvement:
  "You can't love somebody more than you love yourself." — Kountry Wayne (32:03)

• On Authenticity and Faith:
  “If people I've seen really stand on it [Jesus], the industry can't stop them.” — Kountry Wayne (25:11)

• On Fatherhood & Forgiveness:
  “He wasn’t there at times of need…But I forgive him for that.” — Kountry Wayne (52:44)

• On Spiritual Love:
  “Every woman has a spiritual vagina...God is only gonna let a man, a God, touch that...If you ever find a man who touched that spiritual vagina, your life gonna be changed forever.” — Kountry Wayne (63:08)

• On Money & Energy:
  "I give away Federal Reserve, not my energy. God's will." — Kountry Wayne (44:12)

• On Living in Truth:
  "Don't hide from where you came from. Celebrate it. This is what makes you original." — Crystal Renee Hayslett (22:27)

• On Self-Reflection:
  "The lesson gets harder, but you get stronger along the way so that it feels like kindergarten." — Kountry Wayne (87:21)

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Memorable and Lighthearted Moments

• Wayne’s playful, candid confession about having ten children:
  “How did you end up with so many kids?”
  — “I ain’t pull out.” (46:59)

• On buying a G-Wagon for his future wife (and making his exes jealous):
  “That’s to make all my exes mad.” (76:41)

• Hilarious breakdowns on gender roles, lazy women, and money management:
  “The laziest women got the best coochie. Let me tell you why…” (77:30)

• On his vegan lifestyle changing his appetite (in more ways than one):
  “My flesh ain’t that hungry, but it’s still got an appetite. So it’s gonna eat.” (69:36)

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Important Timestamps

• Introduction & Kountry Wayne’s Background: (00:09 – 07:23)
• Faith, Surrender, & Personal Transformation: (10:44 – 16:35)
• Pandemic Hardships & Resilience: (16:31 – 21:08)
• Authenticity, Industry, and Faith in Public: (22:27 – 25:54)
• Relationships & Loving Women Spiritually: (60:35 – 68:07)
• Fatherhood, Forgiveness, Generational Cycles: (52:44 – 59:20)
• Financial Philosophy & Giving: (43:22 – 44:12, 46:36 – 46:53)
• Advice to Listener Letter: (85:24 – 89:08)
• Episode Wrap & Final Words: (89:37 – End)

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Closing Takeaway

This episode is a vibrant, honest exploration of faith, hustle, redemption, love, laughter, and the power of authenticity. Kountry Wayne’s story urges listeners to own their story, keep evolving, maintain childlike faith, and never be afraid of shining a light on both their struggles and their strength. The central message: help is always on the way—keep it positive, sweetie.

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Keep it Creative, Sweetie!

Transcript

[A]

Hello and welcome to this episode of Keep It Positive, sweetie. Today I have Mr. Jesus is bobbing Himself.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Country Wayne.

[B]

Hi, Dwayne.

[A]

Kylie. What do you want to be addressed as? Dwayne.

[B]

Man, people call me Wayne. Yeah, people just be like, Wayne.

[A]

Wayne. Okay, so Wayne, we got Wayne in the house for sure. Better known as Country Wayne. You have a new book out called Help is On the Way.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Which is what we titled this episode.

[B]

Okay, that's what's up, I think about.

[A]

Help is On the Way. The first thing that comes to mind is that church song, hold on. Help is on the Way.

[B]

Yeah. I can't sing, but yeah, yeah, definitely hold on. Whitney Houston sung it on Preacher's Wife. Preacher's Wife, sure did.

[A]

Yeah. I love her version. So good, so good. Let me just tell people a little bit about you. In case you don't know country one, you are a comedian, a social media personality who was formerly a rapper. I didn't even know that.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. I just spit. But it ain't work.

[A]

It didn't work.

[B]

Nah.

[A]

Okay. You're known for your comedy content, which is how I was introduced to you on Instagram. But you had a video that went viral in 2014 on Facebook. Is that when everything just kind of went.

[B]

Yeah, that's when it. Well, the video took off, but I didn't take off, but I took off with it. Like, I kept working.

[A]

You saw something. I'm onto something here.

[B]

Yeah, I already knew for sure.

[A]

That's good. Okay. You made funny short videos about life's inconvenient and unfortunate moments. And then since 2015, you've been doing stand up comedy, which is really taken off. I've noticed that you're on the road all the time now and you've appeared in films such as Brazilian Wavy, the Turnaround, Holiday, Heartbreak, and then most recently, the movie we did together. Praise this.

[B]

Praise this.

[A]

Yes, yes.

[B]

Some of the other movies you name, I don't even know what they.

[A]

You don't know them. Did you do these?

[B]

One of them all? No, I ain't really do that. Which one?

[A]

Let's turn that.

[B]

No, no, it was something. You know how it be. You know how it be when you first start. I ain't gonna knock the people movies.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was like, I got you. I didn't do that.

[B]

Don't watch it.

[A]

That's what we're doing this evening. We're gonna find these movies and watch. I'll let you know how it goes. Okay. So I remember I met you on the set of Praise this. You were the dj.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You had some really funny moments in that. Super funny. And you're very quiet on set.

[B]

Yeah, I'm a quiet person. For real, are you? I'm a great listener.

[A]

Gotcha. Okay, so you, I guess you are extroverted when it comes to work.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But like, Wayne in real life is just kind of chill.

[B]

I'm chill. I'm real chill. Because that's how I soak up my content.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I listen to people. So I'm a great listener. And in order to be a great talker, you gotta be a great listener. So I just like to listen.

[A]

I love that. That's good. So tell me a little bit about you. I know you grew up in a small town in Georgia where at a young age you were exposed to criminal activity. Let's get into it. I want to know a little bit more.

[B]

Yeah, man.

[A]

People want to know.

[B]

Well, hey, it's in the book. I was a dope boy. So, you know, I was a dope boy at the time. My daddy was a dope boy, my uncle was a dope boy. So, you know, I hustled. Soon as I graduated high school, 2006, I started hustling immediately. I got caught. I got 10 years probation. Then I tried to go work a 9 to 5, but child support was kicking in, so I had. It wasn't enough.

[A]

Wait a minute. How many kids did you have by then?

[B]

By then I was 22 with seven kids.

[A]

Wayne.

[B]

Yeah. What now? Why everybody be thinking now? They don't know I've been on. I ain't been really.

[A]

You ain't doing nothing.

[B]

I ain't been like that since 22. I'm 35 now.

[A]

You ain't been like that.

[B]

I ain't been like that since I was out there. Like from the age of 14 to 22. Those my real women days.

[A]

Yeah. Wow.

[B]

So people be seeing me. I got a lot of kids. They be thinking, like, but no, I had seven of them by the time I was 22. Since I was 22 to 35, I only had three kids.

[A]

Wow. Okay. So you slowed down a lot.

[B]

Slowed down a lot.

[A]

Okay. So back to when you are. Child support was kicking your ass.

[B]

Child support was kicking, man. Me and my daddy, boy, we would ride one day and I was like, bro, I asked him, I said, man, we get some money, go to work. I wouldn't pay you back when I get paid. He said, son, I was just about to ask you. I went to the bank, got me a loan Because I always kept my credit straight and I knew how to go to maneuver at banks. I got borrowed some money when they bought me a four way.

[A]

What's a four way?

[B]

Four and a half ounces of cocaine. I ain't looked back ever since I was. Kept it flipping.

[A]

I know that's right. Wow. That's crazy.

[B]

So we had nightclubs, all that.

[A]

You wouldn't got a loan to get some cocaine?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You were a businessman for real?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Businessman. Like to think, I'm gonna go get this loan and get this and then I'll pay the loan back.

[B]

Pay the loan back and still have extra money. Still had extra money, man.

[A]

So pay your child support.

[B]

Child support. And I was chasing my dreams. So this time when I went back, I ain't go just to sell drugs. I was like, man, I'm gonna go be. I'm pushing my career. So I was using the money, some of the money to fund my rap career.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

You know, and. But, you know, so that's how I was. I was a small town. Bigfoot.

[A]

What part of Georgia was it?

[B]

Millen, Georgia.

[A]

How far is it from Atlanta?

[B]

About three hours.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

But then I went to Statesboro, Georgia. So that's about three. That's Georgia Southern University.

[A]

I'm about to say.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yep.

[A]

Did you go to. That's where you went to school?

[B]

No, I ain't go. I went to college. I went to community college just to get the student loan check. That was my first time buying cocaine. When I.

[A]

Wade, oh, my God.

[B]

I got this student loan and Pell Grant.

[A]

Oh, listen. Yeah. I didn't get. I had my last year of college. I got a student loan. Other than that, I was. I had scholarships.

[B]

But you turned them down. You turned them down.

[A]

My parents are really big on not coming out of college of debt.

[B]

Yeah. So it had to get that money. Had to get it. And student loans, it felt like free.

[A]

Money until you gotta pay it back. Ain't nothing free. Listen, I know a lot of people right now, like, please forgive me for my student loans.

[B]

Black people don't forgave theyself. I don't know why they worrying about that. Man. I ain't worried about that student loan bill like that. You gotta hit the lottery before we pay that back. Like, nobody ain't finna just pay no student loan back.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Your career gotta be set, and then you gotta show me. You said again, you gotta be double cross, like, are you sure I'm making this money right? And then pay it back.

[A]

I'm with you.

[B]

Black people ain't worried about that.

[A]

They're like, Fannie Mae. Who?

[B]

No. Ooh. Then they be like, it's gonna go on your credit report. Ooh. So what? But I don't care about no credit report. Not for real.

[A]

Like, right.

[B]

We care about this stuff when we get up, like, on the way up, man. Blah.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. When you're there, you not thinking about that.

[B]

I'm trying to survive right now. I don't care about no student loan, no hospital bills. You should have got me when I was at the hospital not paying that stuff.

[A]

Yeah, we're getting a comedy show with the show. I love this.

[B]

This is so good.

[A]

Okay, so you ended up going to Statesboro. Then what was like, the shift where you started to see, okay, you selling drugs? And what was the shift where you like, okay, let me did this. Your career started taking off. Were you like, I don't have to do this anymore, or was it, nah, I sold drugs.

[B]

2014, when I went viral with the comedy. I quit the rapping thing right then, and I just started being consistent. But I was still. I had over a million followers, people knowing me, and I still was hustling the whole time. I had a nightclub, and then I got my second nightclub so I could finally quit selling dope. Cause I wasn't getting. No, I wasn't getting shows like that. I was getting some shows. But January 2016, I finally quit for real. And I started. I said, I'm gonna do this comedy for real. And then I started touring, but I was making like 30 or 40amonth. But I was like, man, this ain't nothing. Cause, you know, the child support, you.

[A]

Know, this time you had how many kids?

[B]

We was up to what I was at. I was at eight. Eight, Okay, I was at eight. But what happened was I went to a show one day and I made 20 comedy club, and I made like, 20 grand in one week.

[A]

I said, oh, in a week? You're like, oh, I can do this in a week.

[B]

One weekend, I said, oh, I'm finna make a million dollars. I knew I was about to make it. So then I was like, that was 2016, when I really felt that confidence to really quit. And ever since then, you know, I just been grinding.

[A]

I love that. I love that. So I know a lot of comedians find humor in the inconvenience and their pain. As Kevin Hart says, laughing, My pain. What is that? What really started? And what was the thing like, I'm gonna talk about this. I wanna shed Light on this and let's make fun of it.

[B]

Oh. Because I had information on the streets, so I knew nobody couldn't tell my story because most people don't make it out the way I did. And I was sober through the whole thing. Cause I never did drugs. So the whole time through my mama life, my uncle's life, and my life, I was able to capture these moments and the picture, you know, and women, you know what I'm saying? So I. I learned women. My mama told me a lot about them. So me learning women, I knew a lot of people weren't gonna be able to talk about it as detailed as me because I listen to women.

[A]

So you were sober through it?

[B]

Yeah, I'm sober. So I know.

[A]

What, so you don't drink or nothing? You don't do nothing?

[B]

Nah, I don't do nothing.

[A]

And you're vegan?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Wow. So you just. Temple is just clean.

[B]

Well, ain't nobody perfect but God, but I drink water.

[A]

Mind your business. Yeah, the business that pays, for sure. I know that's. So you have a new book called Help Is on the Way, Stand up and Live youe Truth. And you talk about a couple lessons in the book, and one of them was, sometimes all you have is your pride, and that's often the only person who can help you, push you forward is you. You mentioned in the book about being introduced to God at the age of six. Just tell me about your experience and your faith, because you're very vocal on Instagram. And I'll be honest with you. One of the things that really made me say I want Wayne on this show was when you talked about forgiving your parents. That was. I talked about on my get to Know Me episode. Some things I went through my childhood and just the pressures of that and learning as adults to forgive our parents for whatever, you know what I'm saying? We have been holding or whatever. And when you said that, I was like, wow, it hit homey me. It was like the timing of that post was like, precise. And I was like, wow, even your perspective. And to be mature enough to be like, hey, Dad, I forgive you. What? How's that journey even being introduced to God? And how was he with you even when you were doing the things?

[B]

Man, I just, you know, when I was young, I heard my grandma and my momma didn't talk about Jesus. So I was. I chose to believe it for real. They was talking about him. But I'm a little child, okay? This what we believe in. So I really was crazy enough to really believe in Jesus. And at 6 years old, like I put in my book, I was talking to a flower one day and I was like, I know you can talk. And I was like, I ain't gonna tell nobody if you just speak to me. It's between me and you. And that flower said, well, I went in the house, told my mama, they don't came out. I said, look, the flower talk. I said, come and listen to the flower. I said, look, now I know I said I wasn't gonna tell nobody. That flower ain't say nothing to them. But I always had crazy faith. And I seen it work. I fell on a bicycle one time and I flipped. And I told my mama, she came out of the run. I said, no, God, he helped me down and let me slow. So I had this crazy faith and I just seen it in life. Everything I got in, I was able to get out. Like I was able. Even when I sold drugs. I know Jesus was real because he cleaned my reputation. I got all these kids and all my past, but when people see me, they don't feel that energy off me. And I'm like, but it was him. But I picked up the Bible 2012 while I was in the streets. Cause you know you lose them when you lose God on the way to life. When you start wanna be yourself. And I learned even though I wasn't with him, he was still with me. And I felt his word. Cause he can't be in no mess. But that's why he give you his word and common sense. So I noticed the difference of having his word and having him. But 2012, I was up, had money, had the cars. I was like, I'm up in the wrong world. I say the man Working at McDonald's is actually better than me right now. Because if I got $100,000, I'm in the streets, I'm on the negative end of the ruler. Remember in school you got 01, 2, 3, 4 5, a negative 50. Ill gotten gain has no lasting value. And it says that in the Bible. So I'm like, I'm really so far behind. So I picked up that Bible. It was my niece bible. And I still got that Bible. It's in the truck right now. And nobody told me how to read it. I said, man, everybody was telling, go to this verse, go to that verse. I started from the beginning and I read it through. It took me about a year and to this day I read it through seven times on my A trip now. And I don't miss a day. But it was that word that was the origin of life. And once I tapped into that, he started getting me out the streets. And then when the social media came, I knew what it was. I had just read a verse. He said, try this, try this, try that. And he said, perhaps all of them could happen. And I seen it and I was like, so everything. Something come. Oh, this.

[A]

What, you can apply it?

[B]

I can. You know, it's preparation for it.

[A]

Wow. All right. A man after God's own heart. That's amazing. I love that. I love that you. It's very impressive that you've read the Bible seven times and you're on your eighth trip. That's crazy. A lot of people don't even have that attention span. Like, how long do you read? Every day.

[B]

I read a page a day. When I first started, I guess my spirit. Spirit was so hungry I was reading like 15 pages. But then I got to the point where it only had to be one time a day.

[A]

Cause you know it now. It's just more like a refresher.

[B]

Nah, it's just like, it's so much. If you read too much, it's like good food.

[A]

Yeah. Okay.

[B]

Yeah, it's real good. It's potent. So you got to take it in. And that verse be in you, and everybody be trying to understand why they read. And I had to learn. You don't supposed to understand it all the time. It's like if you take medicine for your foot, you don't know how I get to there it go through your mouth. So the Bible, when it comes in you, it comes out when needed. And it really helped me with business. For real. Cause I get mine. You do every deal. I just can feel, uh. I just know what to. Nah, nah. And most of the time, by the time it come to me, it already be cause energy. Just know.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know. So that Bible is important for real. Especially when it comes to this world. Cause this world is wicked.

[A]

It is. It is a very wicked world. Did you ever go through a season of unbelief and staying away from God maybe because of what you were doing or were you, like always, like, tapped in? There was never.

[B]

You know, sometimes people try to run me away.

[A]

Wow. People tried to run me away. The church.

[B]

The church tried to run me away. When I had a nightclub, and then we had a successful night. Nobody got in a fight, nobody shoot. I put on Facebook, thank you, God, for letting us have a safe night at the club. And people from the church and the community was like, we don't like the way Country Wayne putting God and what he doing. I said, why would God go help something that's clean? Yeah, we in the club, we had a safe night. I don't care what they say. So even now, when I did the Jesus popping brand, people like you putting that in. What you doing? Cause you know, I got the women in the skits playing these roles. I'm like, bro, man, Jesus in whatever I'm doing.

[A]

Hello.

[B]

And I'm. And if I'm doing something wrong, help me get out. So I need them anyway. So. No, I never. I never lost my faith. I lost a lot of things. I done lost money before. I done lost people, but I always held onto my faith. I ain't never. Cause that's all I got.

[A]

Yeah, you know, that's so good. Have you ever, like, how do you push? I know there's been dark moments in your journey, and we don't have to go too deep sometimes.

[B]

No, no. We go. Really?

[A]

Let's go. Okay. What are some of those dark moments? And how did you. Like when nobody else is watching, nobody's seeing. What are things that you do and how do you push yourself out of those dark places?

[B]

Man, I give it to God, man. When I get a headache, I give up quick. I'm like, I'm dead. God help me.

[A]

I'm dead.

[B]

I die. I don't try to fight through nothing. So I give it a God.

[A]

Cause you die daily.

[B]

Like during the pandemic, I was broke because the pandemic hit. I had, like 100 grand, but I was about to go on tour, so I'm like, I'm gonna go make that little 700 real quick. You know what I'm saying? But pandemic hit. We can't work. My bills were 70 grand a month. I, like. I got down to 13,000.

[A]

Wow. Wow.

[B]

I was selling Nutriburst. I was about to sell it. I had put the tee heat on. I had it on my link tree. If you could have screenshot my link tree, you would have seen nutriburst up there. I had got me a Amazon. I had got me a box truck. I finna do Amazon routes. I started the.

[A]

That's right. Yeah.

[B]

But I was. I was. That was a dark place because now I'm worried about my family. I know. I got faith.

[A]

Yes. Yes.

[B]

I got faith. I wasn't worried you were gonna be good. But they faith is in my money. So I'm like, you know, so really, I work hard just for them. Cause I got him. But that Was a dark place. I'm like, now they finna worry so much. But I was kind of happy that they got to see that moment, because now they could realize it was never my money. It was my faith where I got money. But they didn't believe I. They thought I had money. I'm like, bro, I ain't got it. I had to show a counsel. Yeah, but. Yeah, but that was a dark moment, man. But I remember the feeling. I'm like, here we go again. I did my head just like this. They went to counseling them shows. I did my head. I remember my head did just like this. All right, here we go again. And my brother over there, he told me, say we finna see if all this helpers on the way stuff is real.

[A]

Hey.

[B]

And celebrities was watching my stuff. I'm telling you this how I know, bro. So everybody watch me scream. Jesus. So they waiting on something. Sometimes people wait on something bad to happen to me because they were like, is he gonna keep that joy?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Celebrities were watching my page, and there's one guy who got a podcast. He was like, man, the comedians looking messed up. Now it's one of them. I seen him trying to sell some tea. He was talking to nutriburst. But they were just wanting to see what I'm gonna do now. And I was grateful for that moment. Cause in that moment. But again, just like he did back in the day, he turned my life around to the point where I don't even need the industry. He gave me something that is so unique and so for me. So, yeah, in those dark moments, I just give it to him.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I ain't leaving him. I don't give it. Because he ain't gonna embarrass you.

[A]

No, he won't. No. At all.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? I don't trust the world.

[A]

Yeah. I remember during COVID and that was a hard time for everybody. I was blessed enough to still be getting paid because I was on Tyler's payroll. So I was even through that time. I didn't miss anything. That was nothing but the grace of God.

[B]

Oh, that was nothing but God, girl.

[A]

Nothing but God. Yeah.

[B]

I don't know how that was. Everything stopped. I should have been over here on this sofa.

[A]

I wasn't here yet. We was at the townhouse. But I remember just. It was just even like, the isolation and like, okay, what kind of. Anytime something like that happens and I'm going through it again with the strike that's happening right now, I always find a way to how can I come out of this better? You know, this is time that God has set me down. What can I do to hone in on different skills? And now I'm in the position. I feel like I'm in my own pandemic with the strike because were not working, and acting was my bread and butter. I got two shows, and that was like, I'm like, I'm good. Like, I can just enjoy work. Literally work up one month out of the year unless I book something else for those two shows. So we shoot really fast. And then I had the rest of the year to just enjoy my life. So now that we're not working, we had just worked in March or April for Sistas, and then I was like, I was supposed to be working right now for Zatima, which is my big check. So I'm like, I'm good, you know, like, thinking I'm good. And now it's like, we don't know when we're going back to work. So it comes in, like, budgeting and, like yourself, like, overhead is like 50k over saying for everything. And it's like, whoo. Okay. Everything you see, like, my accountant's like, all right, we can. This is what you can do. We can live off of this for however long, but you have to stick to this budget. So now Dinora and I are, like, working on other things, and it's just this pandemic that we're going through right now. What we call it, the strike is forcing me to, like, look at other streams and things I'm passionate about and things that I love. So it's like a restructuring phase all.

[B]

Over again, I think. Yeah. I think a lot of people. Somebody asked me about that the other day. I was like, what do you think it's going to do for actors? I think a lot of actors are going to be more creative.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And business savvy after this.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

Because it's going to force them to. Because that's what it did for me. Man. I would have never. If I would have had a bunch of money put up, I wouldn't have never built this. Because it. Because sometimes people gotta know, like that song William Murphy got is working. When it's your season, when you know you got them, everything that go bad is in your favor.

[A]

It is.

[B]

So you got to just soak that in black no matter how. And it get ugly. Because the devil, he sent tests. God don't test nobody. See, people don't know that the devil, the only one that sent tests.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

You know he sent texts. But as long as people hold on to that faith. And I know that sounded like grandma them and be like, oh, everybody been saying that. But that faith in him, every time, that's what it is. And I think that's what it's going to take. You know, that's what's happening now. Because the way they shut down the industry, I was like, hold up, bro. I understand they trying to get more money, but they going to give people some money because.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I know it's a union we need, but it's a crazy time. And that way I feel. I feel for. Sometimes when I see people go through stuff, man. Cause I'm like, well, if they ain't got that faith, you know what I'm saying? But that faith is gonna get everybody through everything.

[A]

Yeah. No, Absolutely. No, for real. You also talk about living in your truth when you say, don't hide from where you came from. Celebrate it. This is what makes you original. And a lot of people from the streets shy away from talking about their love for God and fear of making them look soft. We talked about. You talk about it on social media all the time. Like, you, like, Jesus been popping. That's what I love about you is like, a man who does not mind, like, screaming from the mountaintop. Have you ever had people like, why? I know you said during the pandemic, people, like, we just. They looking to see, like, if you were gonna lose your joy. Have you had people, like, come to you, like, recently or during your journey saying, like, why are you always, like, screaming about Jesus?

[B]

That's the question I get.

[A]

Really?

[B]

That's the question I get the most. But now I used to talk about it online, but God told me to hush. And now as they see my life going up, they don't really question no more. They starting to believe. Because the way my career been, it's been. It's just been a different ride. And it's just like. And I went on Good Morning America, and I remember, you know, because you can't. For real. They don't let you say Jesus in these places. It's just like. It's just bad for business. We're not against it. But I went on Good Morning America. The first thing they did was zoom in on my chain. My publicist was looking like, wow, because she couldn't believe. Because they were kind of like, no, we. You know how they are by now.

[A]

I do, yeah.

[B]

But it's what I learned is people out there, even in them evil places, that real pimp, they Just not bold enough to say his name.

[A]

Yes, yes. Oh, absolutely.

[B]

What I learned. People who say his name, strong people out there that, that are really in that industry, boy. Cuz, I got some people out there in my favor that be pushing for me. Like.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it's like. But people, that's the question. They get me like that Jesus thing. Everybody want to know, cuz everybody deep down know. Our grandma told her that.

[A]

Hello.

[B]

And we got, we got. People don't got away from it. And it's like, that's the universe.

[A]

No, it's. Yeah.

[B]

Now the universe. Man. I hate. People come talking about when your birthday. Oh, Sagittarius. What happened to that Leo? You ain't know he was gonna break your heart. I be like, man, come on, man, they be everybody. People don't know how to put their batteries right in their remote, but all of a sudden they know about the stars.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm like, bro, come on, man. We just the same thing grandma done talked about.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

He been around that long for a reason.

[A]

He has, he has. And it is. Our industry is very, very, very funny about that. I love it when people get on stage at award shows and say, thank you, Jesus, thank you. You know what I'm saying? They like give. Not just thank you, God, because there's so many gods in this world.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? Exactly.

[A]

Like, there's different guys, but there's only one Jesus.

[B]

There's only one Jesus. But. And people scared. But if you pay attention, the people I've seen really stand on it. The industry can't stop them.

[A]

They can't.

[B]

It's a dude in Marvel, Chris Pratt.

[A]

I love him. Yes.

[B]

Me and him be dming. And like I told him, I said, I seen him go on there one day. Because deep down that's what only thing they say. I had seen a guy say, he said, man, the devil is not scared of your good deeds. Only thing he fear is Jesus name. That's why they trying to shut it up. They trying to shit. Because it's power. It's power just in that man name. If Siri got this much power and I could say, hey, Siri, what's Martin Luther King birthday? And she answered, imagine how much more power Jesus God. I've seen it and I've used it. I use it. He tied. He probably tied me. Cause some of this stuff, he be like, you know what I'm saying? Some of this stuff, oh, we gotta.

[A]

Cut it off, Siri. See, see, he tried to. He just tried it. He's like, we gonna stop this right now.

[B]

But Jesus react faster than Siri, man. It's just. Cause people can't see it. I know. For me, bro, it been him.

[A]

Mm. I met Chris Pratt when I was going to. When John Gray had his church here in Atlanta, and he was filming something, and he came to the back and told us a story about when he was running one day here in Atlanta through the woods and just really heavy. It was a heavy day for him, and I just need to go for a run. So he goes for a run, and he sees this random bench in the woods. And he was like, why is this bench there? And something just says, sit down. And as he sat down, he looked down, and he noticed like, a stone on the ground, and he moved the leaves. And it said, be still and know that I am God. And he was like, wow. Like, it's funny. Like, God found me as I'm running. You know what I'm saying? Trying to clear my mind and set me down. And I saw that, and I was.

[B]

Like, that's powerful, man.

[A]

So I just. I love. I appreciate artists like Chris like you and myself who, like, don't. Who aren't afraid to talk about.

[B]

You can see it on you, though. Yeah, you can see it on you. Like, but when I first met you, I was like. Cause I seen you on tv. I'm like, man, ain't no way this person. Look this. Nobody don't see this. It's just like this. You got a walking filter.

[A]

A walking filter.

[B]

It's like. It's like this glow, man.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

Like, for real, though, I just had.

[A]

Eva on here, and she was like, it was you. It was your light. And I'm just like. We were in a ball and crying, but that's how every day I wake.

[B]

Up and I tell you, your ear even look angelic. I promise your ear looks so healthy.

[A]

When. You are hilarious.

[B]

You seen her ear? You ever pay attention to her ear?

[A]

I told her before that she has perfect fingers.

[B]

God, they're brand new. Like, y' all ain't around here getting ear surgeries.

[A]

No. Ear surgery? Yeah, that's a new thing. You're surgery. Am not.

[B]

No, she is, man. No, I'm not. She definitely is.

[A]

I want people to see that light. My prayer every morning when I wake up is God. Like, when I walk out these doors, I want people to see you through me and just let your light shine through me. Yeah. So that's my. That's what I ask God for every day, is that he Is that people see him through me. So that's really good. I know that. Also in living in your truth, as you have seen in your career, a lot of men struggle with leaving the street tough guy Persona behind and feel like they still are kind of tapped into the hood just to keep their credibility. Is that something you struggle with at all?

[B]

No, because, see, I know women for real. See, most men do that because they think women they perceive through hip hop. They think women like. But they don't know what women like. Cause sometimes women don't know what they like. Everybody like. Everybody like one thing, but everybody love another.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I learned, man, you know, people love you for you to be you. So wherever you are and ain't nobody. We weren't born thugs and killers.

[A]

That's true.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? Even when I was in the street, I ain't never have no gun. I got me some money. And you know, I love a pretty woman point blank period. But I ain't struggling with that hard stuff. Cause I don't. I know me, and I know I fight in real life. So I ain't finna walk around all day proving it. But anybody finna touch me, but I get touched back. So. Nah, man. That street life was something that I was born in. If I was born another way, I would have did it another way. But that ain't nothing I would want to even glorify. That's why I don't even talk about it like that. They had to make me write that book.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

I didn't even want to talk about it.

[A]

I don't want to talk about it.

[B]

Because I was like, man, I don't made it out. And that stuff just happened. A lot of that stuff in that book.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

We wrote that book 2021. I just got out of the street 2016. But they got lawyers involved. And I said, you sure? I was recording them on the phone and everything. While I was on the phone with them, I was messing record. But it was like, nah, I can't get in trouble. But nah. That tough guy Persona. If guys knew what women they really paid attention to women they'll learn how to be. But they think women. Cause women go through a stage where they think that's what they want.

[A]

You are so right. I went through that.

[B]

I love.

[A]

My mom always said, you like them really nice and sweet, but rough on the edges. Like, I wanted a little. I need something like a little. Ah.

[B]

And y' all break them guys heart.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

See what happened? Y' all break Their heart. Then they get mad, they want to call y' all the B word and what's name. Then they stay in this state because they thought this what y' all wanted.

[A]

Yeah. And that's not. That's not what we need.

[B]

Then when y' all leaving for they got it. They like, you know, but you gotta be a mixture. Solomon said in the Bible, you can't be too holy, you can't be too wicked. And I tell people, I say, man, he say, stay somewhat in the middle. I say, so I ain't Kirk Franklin, but I ain't Lil Boots either. You know what I'm saying? So I'm like Russell Wilson in future, Mr. Gethseman.

[A]

It's a good battle.

[B]

We gonna sleep in peace and all that. But I'm telling you, we're gonna have some fun too, now. Yeah, I love it.

[A]

I love it. You also talked about, don't get mad, get money, get money. Ignore people who want to tear you down and provide for the ones who love you. How have you navigated changing your friendships as you succeeded? When it comes with, like, man, if.

[B]

Somebody ain't really trying to get no money, we better be talking about something.

[A]

Is that friends and relationships, like, with your significant. With your woman, too?

[B]

I ain't got no woman.

[A]

I know, but like, if. What if you were. If you had one, like, what would you. What would she need to do? She need to be getting money, too, or getting mad?

[B]

Not really. She just need to be. Yeah, she need to be getting real money. And that's. That's taking care of herself. Drinking water, you know? Cause that's the main step before we do anything, we gotta drink water. Cause if you got a billion dollars and you're in there tracking, fishing, they don't go together. So we gotta drink this water.

[A]

I am done. Okay.

[B]

So I really just want a woman. When I say I want her to love herself, that's the main thing, man. Put that energy into her. Because you can't love somebody more than you love yourself.

[A]

And do you practice the same thing where you.

[B]

Yeah, I love me. So when I give mine off, I ain't never been in a relationship with a woman. Wasn't happy.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

She always happy. Because I'm gonna love me. So wherever I give off.

[A]

Yeah, you're not pouring from it.

[B]

It's like production.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The better this post gonna be, is gonna be the better of the pre production.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

So if I put my time in this pre production, by the time this piece come out, I ain't gonna have to say nothing about it. You gonna feel it?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You're gonna feel, ooh, I. Did the director make that person turn their head and do this? Did they take the time and do a whole nother scene? Because it was the energy they put in the pre production. So I put that in me every day behind closed doors. So when I, you know, when I give it out, they're gonna feel it.

[A]

That's good. Have you had any old friends call you like a sellout or treat you differently as a result to your success or had to let people go? Because I know for me, I went through recently what I call a purging season where, like, I saw that I was ascending and certain people weren't happy for me or supportive. And I'm like, okay, you know what I'm saying? Where is this really going? Have there been people where it's like, oh, you done changed or.

[B]

Yeah, for sure.

[A]

How do you deal with that?

[B]

I don't really care. I don't care about nothing, but I can't even try to care. That's always been one of my flaws and my strengths. My sister say, I never cared what nobody else. I don't care. I just don't care.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I think that's how I'm able to be creative.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because I only care what my fans think.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

About my content.

[A]

You just. That's good because you're doing it for, like, this is what you enjoy doing.

[B]

This will come.

[A]

This is what God gave you the idea.

[B]

I don't care what the industry say.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I just don't care. Because I long if he love me, man. I ain't finna give you the power controlling my life. Cause sometimes the devil, he know he can't get you, but long as he get a moment out of you. So like, the devil would be like, like, yeah, I'm saved now. The devil. I got 65 years out of you, though. Like, it's like that guy told him on life when they were about to shoot the guy, he was like, the state of Mississippi got 40 years out of, you know, So I don't care. I don't give people that power, man.

[A]

Yeah. Well, you remind me of Tyler when you say that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because that's. I feel like that's why he is so successful. He does not listen to any of the naysayers.

[B]

Nah, Tyler. But real people, real, like, great people recognize great people come in. I remember Tyler Perry had on dvd. I mean, it was a dvd. Was it a DVD or the tape? I know it Was dvd. I remember going to my friends and be like, man, this Madea person is so funny. I slid it in, I said, well, y' all finna laugh. So they watching it. But this one I know sometimes the world is stuck on trends. He wasn't trending yet to them. They watching it, and they watching it. They don't see what I see. I want to stuff they talking about. I'm like, man, this funny.

[A]

Funny, yeah.

[B]

Seven weeks later, the buzz Going around by Tyler Perry. They were watching it one day, they bust out laughing. I say, man, y' all so fake.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Y' all not even controlling y' all own emotions.

[A]

Mind control, literally. The media has.

[B]

The world got you.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And the world is Satan, so you don't even know what's good.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, when I look at you, I'm like, man, like I told you today, I said this girl, beautiful woman in the world.

[A]

Aw.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? But they might got you ranked, but they probably like this. But this person got more for. I'm like, no. And so I never cared. So I could see. I just never cared. So I handle what people don't like me or mad about something, I move or they wasting their time.

[A]

Yeah, that's good. You'll go far with that, too. Because a lot of times, I know as a woman in the industry, I have got caught up in that, like, what people think and how I'm perceived. And I feel like I'm in the most free space of my life where I don't care anymore. And I'm allowing people just to see. See crystal, you know, I used to try to, like, hide certain things or. I always say, I'm giving so much of my life through acting. I just want to have everything else be private. But, like, nobody knows who I am. I'm not sharing the blessings. I'm not, like, allowing people to see all that.

[B]

God, you gotta let them see you, girl. Yeah, you gotta let them see you. Because you get. You walk around with a filter. You got a natural, human, organic filter. You gotta let them see you, man. Cause you is. They need to see that.

[A]

Yeah, I'm working on it. Dinora has helped me.

[B]

Can't remember Jesus. Homeboy Peter told him, they said, man, you got to go ahead and show people who you is, because the world ain't gonna know you until you. He had to pull up side. He pulled up sideways on that donkey.

[A]

Yeah. Yep. Put aside the donkey.

[B]

Yeah. He had to show up Jesus. See, people thought Jesus. That's why I named My brand, Jesus, papa. Because people think Jesus is born so the world don't made it seem like Jesus. All people gonna come around and preach and judge. That ain't Jesus. That's people using his name instead of letting him use them. And Jesus is the coolest the flies. I tell my son, that's why I fight with the world and my sons. Because, you know, it's rappers and a lot of people out there. If my sons didn't see that women like me the way they like me. That's why I let them see how women act around me. Because I'm letting them know you can still be this. Yes, this who they going to love now. They going to like him for a moment. But Jesus was the coolest. Yeah, his name still buzz. Ain't no brand Nike. Nobody is outlasting Jesus. And we ain't even seen him. Wow, we ain't had no pictures. Now that man either, either he real good or he a scammer. Cuz we ain't seen nothing. And this joker's brand is gorgeous. Strong.

[A]

I love it.

[B]

So you got. When people believe in Jesus, the church be like, we gonna sit back and we gonna wait. No, man, Jesus mad because nobody don't want to follow that big suit. Yeah, in that hat, you better. Yeah, yeah. Put that drip on it.

[A]

Yeah, put that drip on and shine.

[B]

Cause when you step out there, he gonna help you step out there. Cause God now. Yeah, God, I'm out here walking on this water, so you better help me. If I fall off. You know what they gonna say now. I said, it's a pandemic, Lord. And I've been screaming your name and I'm on social media, so something. I'm just saying, you know, I'm riding with you regardless, but for your name and what? Yeah, I'm here walking on this water and this water and my knees are wet. Hey, shoes wet. Is it Jesus? It keep working for me. Hey, get me out of here now.

[A]

Oh my gosh.

[B]

I can't with you, man. For real.

[A]

That is real.

[B]

And they brought this strike. I'm like, oh boy. Cause I already ain't trust the industry. The first time it hit me when it shut down. So then my confidence build up. I got on some projects. Say, God, did it hit again? I said, oh, hell no. I'm desperate. They would never get me again to believe maybe I'm here. I probably have projects coming out. What?

[A]

Right?

[B]

Y' all just stopped it.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

You should have called me a year ago. I would have planned my life Accordingly.

[A]

Right, Let me know.

[B]

Don't stop nothing like this.

[A]

Right?

[B]

Ain't no PPP coming. No, I'm staying over here.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I don't want to hear my agent, they can't get me confident no more. There's nothing until I'm on set with the chick.

[A]

Hello. I know that's right.

[B]

No man.

[A]

Oh my goodness. I'm sure you like that. Probably helped you build your own table. As Tyler says, like I'm not gonna depend on anybody.

[B]

Well, I don't trust. Nah. That's what made me do it during the pandemic. I was forced to. But not even doing this because you know I got a Netflix special coming out.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And they was like, and this I know God, where they say the only thing you're allowed to promote is comedy specials. So you know, my Netflix has come out September.

[A]

That was God. Even this was saved by that.

[B]

But you know what I learned though? People got to stop praying.

[A]

Start praying.

[B]

Cause I said, I, I, I said, I told my brother the other week, I realized wrong with the word, everybody praying and one person blessing could be another person's demise. Cuz like I'm like, I can't say thank you God that he shut the energy down for me, right? Cause I'm like, but what about all the other people? So now I realize that's why I don't pray. That why I only thing I ask God, let God's will be done.

[A]

Amen. Yes.

[B]

Because we pray for storms. I worked for this power company one time, we used to pray for storms. When a storm coming, oh, we hope it hit. Cuz we getting some overtime. And when it hit, we say thank you God for that overtime. But it's, it's so many people don't got hurt. So what I learned, man, let God. That's the only prayer everybody should be praying.

[A]

That's it. I, me, I say that too. I used to be like, lord, please do this, Lord, I want this. And Lord God, please change this person or please help me with this. And it was like this long list of things that I'd be praying about. And then I read the scripture where it says, don't go in your closet babbling, just say the Lord's prayer, Thy will be done. And that's it. And literally when I took that on, I realized that the things I was praying for were one too small. And what God had for me and what he was showing for me, that he had was way bigger than I even imagined.

[B]

That's real. So that's, I, you Preaching now, girl. You don't know what you just said. You think you just said something normal. Most times people say something big, they think it was big. It wasn't that big. You just said something, girl. Cause that is so true. That's so. Cause we don't know what to ask for. Cause we so we a piece of sand to a thousand beaches. To God.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

My baby mamas try to get me with child support. They can't get me. Cause they don't even know how to ask for enough. I had to help them.

[A]

You like baby girl. You make it too small.

[B]

Your lawyer wasn't good enough. Let me give you double that. They can't hit me. Because what your brain can't even. Not even fathom.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And that's what people don't realize. They need to let God will just trust his will. Because what we. Because what? Because the dangerous thing, whatever you pray for, you eventually going to get. That's why old girl Delilah got it from Samson.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Because she kept aggravating him. And God, he's a father of all things. If you keep asking me, I'm going to open that door for you and you're going to say thank you. But he knowledge know right now. Wisdom know in time.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

There's only one prayer God will be done. But he can't stand to hear a baby cry. He gonna give you that pacifier. And sometimes in life, very, very soon, you have somebody in your life who, who, who. A grandparent or something. Who stopping you from getting your blessing too early.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

If I would have been this popular at 22, I had all kind of women. God knew.

[A]

Yeah. The time it was not. Yeah.

[B]

Because now I'm too sleepy. I ain't got the energy. I'm like, well, I'm tired. Right? But no, that's what it is, man. It's God's will, man, to be done. And that's what people got to. And when you, when you live like that, you really see, man, it's enough for everybody.

[A]

It is.

[B]

Everybody's supposed to be. It's too many rich people out here for everybody not to be feeling it. Somebody being greedy. I don't make. I give away by give to my family or my business. You know what I'm saying? About 300, 400amonth. But that 400amonth touched so many people.

[A]

400 what? Country?

[B]

Thousand. But when I say.

[A]

We need to.

[B]

Be in the family, it touched so many people. But it's people that's making triple what I'm making. I'M like, that aren't giving. Yeah, that why. Because people don't believe in God's will. Everybody nowadays online, they teach you how to keep your money for the future. That's all they're trying to do. I'm gonna be dead. What you talking about? Somebody's R8, man. Listen, I ain't studying that. I'm trying to. Hey, yeah. So. But what it is, that's people who he told you, man, money gonna be the love of money.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

You know, money is a low frequency. That why I told a guy one time, I take care of my baby mama. I don't care what man. Like, man, you simping. No, you simping cause you giving up energy. My energy reserved.

[A]

Ooh.

[B]

I give away Federal Reserve. They have no value.

[A]

Did it. Did it come by. You better stop. You a little preacher over here too.

[B]

Now stop playing no preacher. I'm preaching. I ain't. I ain't trying to preach.

[A]

He said, I'm giving away Federal Reserve.

[B]

Not my energy, but God's will they trying to put together. Everybody trying to prepare their own will. They setting their own will up. But we ain't good. And the devil. The devil people don't know. The devil don't come in your life to harm on purpose. He tries to be God, but he's so bad at blessing. Because this how the energy turned out. This ain't God now.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because even if people make it through the stress of what am I gonna make it through? See, if they would let God handle it, it'd be different. Yeah, because what happens in the industry, man, so many projects. You know what I'm saying? So many projects. What happened? It's a lot of selfish people. It ain't just in the. In the. In studios and people. If. You know this project ain't gonna work in your heart. People. I hire people just because they like them. And you playing with other people money. You playing with other people money. Now, if this don't come back, we gotta stop in a minute. Cause I'm not about to keep losing.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

But it's people that'll be like, put this person in this project. Because you putting your own wheel together. Cause it's gonna benefit you. But not knowing if that wheel keep turning, everybody gonna eat.

[A]

That's good. You talked about giving. And one thing, that Andy Norman, who works at this, he's one of the vice presidents at Tyler Perry Studios. He leaves work and goes to Bible study every week. And when I was still costuming, before I even became a costume designer, or even started styling Tyler. He called me one day. He said, I don't know why God put you on my heart during Bible study, but he told me to tell you this. And I was like, what did he tell you? He said. He told me to tell you that your living is in your giving. And I was like, okay. He's like, just remember that. And I was like, okay, I got it. So I've always been like a tither. Like, I always make sure I give God his and help people as I can. But as I began to ascend and like, gain wealth, I was like, wow. Like, I knew exactly. He didn't even. He's like, chris, I had no idea why God put that. But he knew where you were going, and he knew where he was taking you, and he didn't want you to forget that. So I want to tell you that as well. You're living is and you're giving and you're doing the right thing.

[B]

I appreciate it, man. I ain't got no woman in my life to tell me I'm doing the right thing. That crazy?

[A]

Is that crazy?

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

But oh, my goodness. Let's talk about women. Since we on the subject. You are a father of 10. How did you end up with so many kids?

[B]

I ain't pull out.

[A]

Were these like relationships or were these just. Were they once?

[B]

My first baby mama was my high school sweetheart. So we was together from 8th grade all the way to like a year. So we had three kids.

[A]

Okay, okay.

[B]

Now I cheated on her one time, got a girl pregnant. This all through high school. This is right after high school. And then my three kids in between her was women I dealt with one time and. Cause God did me like that. Cause you know better.

[A]

You know better.

[B]

That's why these girl got pregnant, man. I was like, oh, God. You know what I'm saying? So I was at. I'm at six children.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

I don't know. You know what I'm saying? And then. And then my ex. My ex wife. Me and her. Me and her had three.

[A]

Okay. Oh, you were married. Okay.

[B]

Yeah. How long were you married for? 7 months. No, somebody said, nah, it was a year changed. But I was with her for 10 years.

[A]

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Together with her for 10 years?

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Yep. Married for seven months to a year, roughly.

[B]

It was a year.

[A]

Okay, A year.

[B]

Yeah, for sure.

[A]

What happened? Was it just like a.

[B]

Actually, we just better be in.

[A]

Cool.

[B]

Nah, I married her because, like, first of all, we had got custody of one of my daughters. I had to go to court for. So I had just started doing the touring thing. I'm like, man, I've been with this girl. I sold dope out her projects, man. I was like, man, I'm finna marry her. Brother, this life. Cause I ain't studying these women. I'm gonna get that money. When I got in the industry, I tell everybody, a lot of men focus on these women. Cause they ain't never had them. See, I been had them. So my focus now. Hey, yeah. So I married her. I'm like, man, I'm finna do this. I'm finna change my family life. For real. So I married her, man. And then, you know, a year later, I like, nah. I hated to leave her behind. I ain't wanna leave her or my first baby mama. You know what I'm saying? But I found a way I could bring them up financially and be there for them.

[A]

Was that a hard decision?

[B]

Yeah, that hard decision. Because you, like, you know, you leaving the women. Like, we grew up together. So, like, damn, I'm finna take off. But y' all ain't with it.

[A]

They went with it.

[B]

Nah, they just. I'm different Lane, man. You know, I started growing fast. Like, I started worrying about my diet. I started. Cause, you know, I picked up that Bible while me and her was in the projects. And I was like, man, I told her, you should have picked it up with me. Cause she asked me one day, she said, what you read? You ain't gonna share what you read? I remember, I said, man, you gotta.

[A]

You should read it with me.

[B]

Read it with me. But I was growing so fast, once I picked up that Bible, I was outgrowing a lot of stuff.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

So by the time I'm like, hey, man, I'm a changed person.

[A]

That's so powerful.

[B]

Cause you can't scream his name too long without changing your character. And my character was changing. And I was like, dang, they can't.

[A]

Reverend Cobb.

[B]

And they had. First chance they had. First chance they had these.

[A]

Now, do they. Have they expressed any regret like that?

[B]

Every woman I've been with, regret. They ain't gonna find no Wayne. You ain't gonna find no Wayne. You ain't gonna find no Wayne. That.

[A]

What does a woman get when she get a Wayne?

[B]

Your grandma gonna be excited in the world. See, it's qualifying that. Cause your grandma could be excited. But your friend like, but he like, but. But the world could be excited, but your grandma, like, he ain't the one for you, babe. Man, I got no aunties in the streets, so they gonna you blessed and you covered, but at the same time, you pleased. Cause we in the flesh, the spirit run the life, but the flesh got to be pleased. So the women were them women? Yeah. They regret it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And a lot of. A lot of women I dealt with think it's still a chance. Cause I'm free. Like, I really. I'm not in a relationship for real. Right.

[A]

But now do you lead them on to make. Nah, if they think they have a chance.

[B]

I don't even play like that.

[A]

You ain't play like that.

[B]

Okay, I don't play. I don't play with people. I don't play no games.

[A]

No games. You don't play the radio.

[B]

I'm direct. But nah, but nah. They definitely regret it. But I'm petty like that. I made sure they was gonna regret it. I work hard to make people regret.

[A]

Oh, my gosh.

[B]

I'm competitive, so I work on myself to be. To grow. Because like, I put in my book, man, stay up. That's the only way a woman gonna really ever want you and keep loving you. You gotta stay up.

[A]

Yeah, that's real. That's real. So about your children. I see you're very active in all your children's lives. How do you manage and like, between business and. Cause you're always. I feel like you're always working and creating something. How do you, like, manage time even to be here today? How are you managing time for your children and your business?

[B]

Well, I had to retire a lot of people. Like my daddy, I retired him. So he take my sons to basketball practice. He handled them like he took the kid, the girls wanted to go to Beyonce concert. He put them in the Sprinter, took them in the baby mamas. And so basically, I had to kind of like, build a village around my kids. And they all helped me. And, man, I just make my God made a way with my schedule. I control my career so much. Like, I shut something down. Like this summer, I shut the whole summer down. I told him, I ain't working and I ain't even know the strike was coming, right? Like that. I knew it was writer's strike, but I'm like, this be open.

[A]

Yeah, right?

[B]

But then the. At the strike came. I'm like, oh, damn.

[A]

Yeah, this is different.

[B]

So I just. I put them first. And I feel like whatever you put first, God will make a way for you, for the balance, if you put the right thing first.

[A]

I love that. Speaking of parenthood, you recently did a post About. We talked about forgiving parents. What did you actually forgive your dad for?

[B]

He wasn't there, you know, at times of need, and he had it. He was in the streets hustling and had money, but he won't really bless my mama unless they was on good terms. And so it was on the conditions. And unconditional love.

[A]

Yeah, that's different. Yeah.

[B]

So I went through things that I didn't have to go through if he would just brought some money around there. So I'm like, he wasn't there when he could have been.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And so I forgive him for that, though.

[A]

Did that help you see what he did and where he went wrong? Be the father that you are today?

[B]

Yeah. That's why I take care of my baby mamas. Cause at the end of the day, that's a hard job. And I learned that it set me free because me trying to control their life. Look, the kids stay there. Even though they do got a man, I still got to pay them bills.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I can't let the kids sit outside. Cause your mama. Whatever your mama doing or whoever they talking to, they got nothing to do with this decision we made together to have this child. So it helped me understand that, because I know if that household ain't right.

[A]

It'S not good for the kids.

[B]

For sure.

[A]

Yeah. Do your kids live with you or they live out with their.

[B]

But my son live with me. Tamar lived with me. But all the restaurants, they all got rooms in there, but they don't be there. They be with their mama, but they got a room there, and they mama stay five or ten minutes away. But it really just be me and Tamar.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Because my other son just went to college.

[A]

Got you. What were the steps that led you to saying, I need to forgive my dad?

[B]

Man. I just don't like to waste time. I ain't holding nothing in. Yeah, that was yesterday.

[A]

How was that conversation like? Was it hard? Because I know sometimes parents, our generation is really big on, like, mental health and not wasting time. And we know the importance of certain things where our parents may kind of be stuck in their ways. Is your dad one of those people that's kind of, like, stuck in his ways? Was it hard to even get through to him?

[B]

Yeah, it was hard to get through to him. But the thing was, when you believe in yourself and you look at yourself a lot, you see that they went through things. So it's a change. We know we coming out of slavery now as black people.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You feel what I'm saying? So what we expect our parents to do.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Let's be real.

[A]

You right. I say the same thing. I was telling my dad this recently. I said, you know, I think about the generational curses and how, like, our parents just repeat what they saw. And you think about our grandparents who were the children of slaves, you know, like. Or you're not as old as I am, but.

[B]

Yeah, I'm older than you in spirit.

[A]

You are. You are an old. You literally are. Yeah. I will give you that. You're no soul. Yeah. But our parents, like, it's like, we're not that far. Like, we just getting out of that, you know, and we're the ones that are starting to break the cycles of those patterns. That's so true. I literally just talked to my dad about that.

[B]

So we just getting out of slavery. So we expecting our parents to be like, mama didn't do this. Mama didn't. Listen here, man. Listen. My daddy, my mom, my dad ain't take my hips and throw it to them Goddard women and have them babies.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I could have made that decision not to do that. So when you believe in yourself. I got two kids that believe in themselves, and they never reflect their problems on their parents. Sometimes some of my kids, I get mad when they go through stuff. They make their mama feel like. I just feel like I don't. Like, what's. My two kids that believe in theyself, they internalize and they work on something.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

They don't take it and throw it on the parents. And I was always that child. Cause deep down, man, kids will lie. People be lie. I remember one time being bad in school. My mom knew about to beat me. They're like, what's been your problem? Say, my Uncle Chunk. Come on. Uncle Chunk had died, man. He had died two years ago, man. I want to study that, man. But I needed something deep for them to feel centered. For me, I like my Uncle Chalk. They. They were like. She was like, what's wrong with Uncle?

[A]

She was like, I know.

[B]

I was like. I'm like, thank God she had that belt. I took that belt and put it. I said, yeah. She said, what? I said, he been coming to see me at night. She said, what did he say? I was like, so I know how kids and people are, man. They be other stuff, dog. Like, if somebody. If you come in here and you slap somebody, they be like, it's because you said this. No, it's. Whatever happened before that this happened. That happened. That happened. You just happen to be the one that take it over the goddamn top.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So people know deep down, bro, people be having all I like, man. People just ain't real. So I don't deal with a lot of that stuff coming in. People don't want to hear the real. They only talk to me. People be going through other stuff, and most time, it's relationships. Somebody that's going through something like, bruh, nobody shouldn't be able to have the power in your life to text you on the phone and change your day for you to call somebody and talk an hour about that. That means that we're not letting God be an accountant of our energy. Because we let God be the accountant of our energy, he gonna know how much to put in there. And then when it do happen, it ain't gonna affect you at all.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

So my mom and daddy life, I wasn't that tied into them because the reason why my everybody heart was hurt, my other siblings. Because you had too much faith in your mama and your daddy. There's only God. And as a child, we have time to learn that.

[A]

As kids. Like, do we know that?

[B]

I don't know. Well, my family was gone. They was drinking and smoking. So I guess I was one of them kids who grew up as. But they have an option.

[A]

They have an option.

[B]

My kids see me read that Bible. They friends see me read it. So somehow in our life, you're giving them a different example, though, God, we don't see this. Oh, no. Like you say, I can't say that because my sisters. I think some children judge their parents because my whole family did drugs. And Auntie Wanda, she like. She my cousin, but she my home. My mom was like, best friend, and she always told us, never try weed because it was a gateway drug. But my sisters, my family always judged them like, y' all just a bunch of weed different. But what happened is they told us never try alcohol and weed. They tried it, so now they fighting not to be an alcoholic. So instead of calling themselves an alcoholic, as long as they keep them some money and have a party, we just having a good. No, it hit you too. You judge Auntie. You a functioning alcoholic. But I didn't judge them. So I was like, that's gonna get me. If I get in that. That's gonna get me. So I stay out of it. I'm not one of them people who think I'm better than something. But when you don't judge your parents, yeah, I knew. I said, man, that cocaine get me too. If I ever try cocaine, it gonna get me. If I ever Cause that coochie got me. You see what it did?

[A]

Ten kids late sometimes.

[B]

Like, I see how my dad had out. Sometimes he just ain't.

[A]

But how many brothers and sisters do you have? You got a lot of kids?

[B]

Yeah, my daddy got nine, eight kids, and my mama had three. So I was the oldest on my daddy's side and the youngest on my mama's side. I got two older sisters and that. I just. I ain't never my mama. I caught my mama doing cocaine one day, and I said, mama. So the next morning, I asked, I said, why you put that white stuff over your nose? But I was so real as a child. The one thing I appreciate about this woman, she didn't give me, you ain't see that you ain't this and that. This and that. I tell everybody, man, my mama's prayers allowed me to be real. And she said, son, I just like the way it make me feel. My sister then would have been like, you know what I'm saying? It's like, man, you know when you look at life, when you be still and look at life for what it really is, you could be real and make real judgments. Like, man, come on, man. So you know, it just. You look at life for what it really is instead of for how you want it to look.

[A]

That's real. That's real. You recently said on our different be, Simone and Megan's podcast, Know for Sure podcast, you say that you believe that the only way to properly love a woman is to give her what God wants for her.

[B]

Give her what God wants?

[A]

Can you? That really. Me and Dua were like, okay, we've never really heard a man say that. The way you broke that down, can you break that down for me?

[B]

You gotta give what God want for her. And what that is. She gonna complain the whole time. My ex wife, she complained the whole time. And she's happier now as a person. Cause I never comply to the world. When I was in the street selling dope, she wanted us to be the lit couple, but I knew that wasn't good for her. There's certain things she wanted, but now she's a great mother and everything. Because in the end, that's who they gonna love. The one who kept it real with them.

[A]

You mean she wanted y' all be the lick? What does that mean?

[B]

Like, certain things I want to do in the street. Like, we ain't taking no trips. I'm a dope boy. And posting no pictures. I'm living the wrong life. God gonna be like, oh, so you trying to get out, but you out here showing out. So it's just like that would have made her so happy. If I would have took on one trip while we were selling drugs, that would have made us so happy. It was a lot of things.

[A]

So you wouldn't take. What if you just took her on a trip and just didn't take any pictures?

[B]

Cause I'm selling drugs, so that ain't fair. If I'm telling God I want to get out, that's throwing it in God face. If I was legit, okay, now I'm taking trips.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But it was a lot of things that would have made her happy in the moment, but she would have been where her friends at right now. You know what I'm saying? So a woman, it's like a child, you know what I'm saying? We got to give people. It ain't even a woman, just people, but a woman. If you give her what God want for her, her soul gonna love you. Even when her flesh mad at you. See, what happens is a lot of women flesh like a man, but they soul ain't feeling it. So that's why depression come, anxiety. But what happens is when your soul, when you talk to her soul instead of her flesh, her flesh gonna be mad. But it's even gonna comply when it's time. It's just gonna complain in the daytime.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And eventually when that flesh catch up, it's gonna be thank you. Because in the end, she gonna glow.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Her better days are in front front of her instead of behind her. And a woman, when you give a woman that man, she give you her prayers. The name of my Netflix specialist, the Woman Prayers, I'm up right now. Because even when the women I dealt with deal with other men, their prayers are with me. Because every woman has a spiritual vagina. And that spiritual vagina is a virgin. That's why Mary is still a virgin. Because they think this the vagina that could be washed out and this dang.

[A]

All the way over.

[B]

Yeah. That man be so happy about. Yeah, I got that. The reason why it's so accessible, because obviously it's not. It's on lowest frequency, highest frequency, that spiritual vagina. And God is only gonna let a man, a God touch that. Some women die a virgin. But if you ever find a man who touched that spiritual vagina, your life gonna be changed forever.

[A]

I've never heard this in my life.

[B]

And that spirit gonna be.

[A]

That's real.

[B]

So now your spirit finally get to feel those moments and open her legs. Cause she got her leg closed. She don't give a damn. She be like, you can do what you want to with yours. So while you giving it to him and you trying to be like, you trying to trick your spiritual. It was good. Like, we connected for real, girl. Oh, my God. Like this the one and your spirit. Like, I don't care what you talking about. Then by seven months later, it just didn't work. Cause it wasn't gonna work. Cause he could apply to you. He did everything he can to get to that part of you and that spiritual person. Like, you know, you gotta think about it. The way I run. I could easily seduce women.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Now. But I could tuck this in. It seemed more fun. But I'm like, nah, man, this is what they need. And I don't care.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Because I know this works.

[A]

Now what does a man of God determine what God wants for her? Like, how do you know? Like this. I know.

[B]

What?

[A]

How do you feel?

[B]

He want her fulfilled, man. And he want her to get back on that journey. Cause when you get fulfilled, you got to think about it. Peter then was getting whipped and everything. It was so fulfilling just to talk about Jesus.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You gotta think how happy was they to walk around them dirty sandals and speak about Jesus. And they found something that was so. It's like a crackhead. That crack so good. They don't care that they teeth dirt.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

They don't care what you say about them. They like, just give me this $15 to wash this car, right? I'm finna go back and get this crack. So, man, you find that you find you activate that back in women. Cause she influenced the world. Cause once you see women talking about that and want that, like even Ciara just going to a man that talk about God, women start shifting their head a little bit.

[A]

Wait a minute. Yeah.

[B]

You get what I'm saying? So it gets them back on a journey and start feeling good to walk, eat good food and live life. So once you get on that and once she get happy. Now, if y' all ever decide to get. The relationship is supposed to be the last thing. It's a holy matrimony is really your flesh and your spirit come into agreements. Because they got to live with each other. So you got to come and hold the matrimony with yourself first. Because right now it's four people right here on this couch. My flesh, your flesh, my spirit, your spirit. So. So once you become whole, then you talk to that person's soul. And that soul gonna tell you what to tell her to get her flesh back in line.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

And now when you finally get to that moment, that's what I'm waiting on. For a woman to get to that moment so we could be whole together.

[A]

Gotcha.

[B]

But that's what it is. And it's hard to do that because most men want to stay in good cahoots to get what they want.

[A]

Get what they want.

[B]

Cause they gonna say. And when they do say something triggering. It's malicious. It's the timing. They ain't really like my baby mama, the one I told her I married. I knew my intentions was for her. When I met her, I said, oh, I'm gonna make sure this girl's straight. Even if we don't end up together. She got something in her.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I went over there, we talked. We finally talked for a little minute a couple months. I finally got that Gucci. I played like the cool guy. I bought her some weed and everything. See, the devil act like he God. Sometimes God pretend like he a devil to get your attention. Cause you know that's what they like. I bought a weed. I bought her and her friend. We were like, yeah, I'm acting like, man, as soon as I got that coochie and I know I put that thing in her the next morning, I was like, hey, we gotta wash these dishes and stuff now. She was like, what? Cause I switched. I act like I was the turn up guy.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

As soon as I. Then she started this, and that girl started glowing, glowing, glowing. And the whole hood seen it. And women around there was trying to find Waynes. I seen the town change. So I learned, man, you know, when you get women back on the right track, God will bless you.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

He'll take care of you. Cause he ain't playing about y' all y' all prayers.

[A]

He do not play about us y' all women.

[B]

Men don't understand that, bro. Like, y' all control the world. Y' all prayers are strong.

[A]

They are.

[B]

That why I wanna. Why women that I work with, I pay them to do their job. And ain't no men get paid more than women. Because I know they keeping this up. It's they prayers.

[A]

Yeah. Ooh, that's good.

[B]

You know? So that what it is, man? Just gotta get that spiritual vagina? That spiritual vagina. They ain't stuck no lies. They don't care about no smooth talk. It been here before the ancestors.

[A]

That's true.

[B]

See that flesh think it no it gonna get tricked every time. And sometimes you gotta drink a little alcohol to tell the Spirit to shut up. So the flesh feel comfortable giving up what it be. That's why most people before they cross the line. Cause that's the only way that flesh drank up. Like you talk too much. You making me feel too conscious. So let me unconscious do something to take my mind off. So now for this moment. And then sometimes I still be like, I need another one.

[A]

Shots.

[B]

Shut up.

[A]

Shots. Yes.

[B]

Hush. You know, and then all of a sudden it hush. Did you know it? You wake up and it's back. See how you feel this morning. And then people try. Now you fighting, trying to prove wrong. Like I made the right decision. So what people do, they end up staying with that person long term. Just so they can prove to the spirit I was good. Then after a year later or two years. And if you, you bless. If it's that early. Cuz sometime a person will take 10 years of your life. You right o and get what the spirit do every time. Come here, baby. I told you I don't be telling you that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

To stop you from having fun. But trust me, I know I'm connected to the one.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Wow. And that's what it is.

[A]

So talking about the spiritual vagina right now in your life you're single, but are you like abstaining from sex? Are you open to sex? Cause you're very spiritual. Are you feeding the flesh or you like. I'm good on it.

[B]

Well, right now my flesh ain't that hungry, but it's still got appetite. So it's gonna eat. My flesh gonna eat. It ain't gonna die. I don't know the hell doing that. But it just ain't got an appetite it used to have.

[A]

Cause you sleepy, you tired?

[B]

Tired. I can't. God will set you up. I'm so busy. I literally can't. You know, my lifestyle don't bump into people.

[A]

You don't?

[B]

No. Cause I'm vegan. So most people go out to eat vegan. Take you away so much from stuff. Because man ain't no bad women in the restaurants, they trying to figure they body back out, you know, so it's like, you know, I'm so disconnected. Yeah. I'm going like I'm always have sex. I'm never stopping that. God have to chop it off before I stop.

[A]

You had to chop it up.

[B]

Like I'm not gonna. Like I'm not gonna never stop. But it's just organically, even if I try my hardest eat to my appetite. My appetite just ain't that big.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It just, it's it's way, way, way less than it would have been. It don't matter.

[A]

Do you feel you said something about because you're busier now? Like, you don't. I've heard men say that, like when they're focused on things sometimes 6. Because a lot of people think like sex is always on yalls mind, but.

[B]

I've heard it is most of the time until you reach a certain level. Now I just don't have the appetite. Like, it's like vegan. I didn't try to go vegan. He took the appetite away. And this appetite taken away from me. Now I'm scared because I'm like, hey, God. I'm fighting him on that. You're like, I want this, but nah, it just don't. It just don't. That ain't my main. That just ain't. It just ain't the main course. Cause I used to be, man. I was born with a lustful spirit. And I used to be like, when I was young, I was like, man, God damn, man, I want this. I want her, I want her. I'm like, what is that? You know what I'm saying? And then that lustful spirit lasted for a while. But I noticed when I started getting that word and when I started getting off that food, I noticed, man, I ain't have the energy. I think sometimes the hormones in that food be having you animal like and whatever your animal spirit is, some people, it make them eat more. Some people make them more angry at me. It was like, I want. You know what I'm saying? So it don't have most women and this is how it's going. But now I'm just more. I move, I walk like, I walk like. So that ain't the main thing. I like to get to know people now.

[A]

So, like, speaking of that, like, as you're single, like, how do you even, like, approach relationships? Like, if Wayne was supposed to see somebody, like, what would you do?

[B]

I'm going to tell you straight up. If I like a person, I want to be with you for real.

[A]

Real.

[B]

I'm serious about everything I say. Like, I'm already thinking about marriage. I ain't got time to be wow. But most times to set up that they ain't gonna believe you.

[A]

Yeah. They be like, what? Right?

[B]

I'll be serious. I go straight at it. I ain't got time to play right?

[A]

Wow.

[B]

I'm like, if I like somebody I already know went through my mind first. I write my content in my mind. I never use paper so everything is in my mind. So I look at a person, I'd be like.

[A]

Little scan.

[B]

So by the time I step to somebody, I'm like, hey, man, this is what it is. But most people, like, they kind of believe you at first. Then they gonna talk to one of their friends. Did. Their friends are googling you. They'll be like, you better check this first.

[A]

Yeah, you got. Look at this.

[B]

Look at this. And got all these kids, and then they gonna come back with that. I'm like, well, all right. They gonna see. And when they gonna. They gonna look up and be like, damn. God damn. I should. So I'm gonna go. But I really like. I like relationship. I do like relationship, but it just got to be somebody who really trusts and believe that this is it for real.

[A]

Yeah. Do you feel like. I know you balance your family well. Do you feel like you could also balance a relationship?

[B]

Oh, yeah, I'm a good.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah, I could balance it. Relationship is. It's easier now because you ain't got time for no bunch of women.

[A]

True.

[B]

So a relationship is like.

[A]

I feel like sometimes it's the opposite. I feel like a lot of times when men get success, it opens the door for more women. What do you mean you don't have time for a lot of women?

[B]

The door open. They could go. They can stand at the door all they want. They ain't getting no real energy out of me. If you want somebody taking naps. Cause I don't. I'm not.

[A]

Nah.

[B]

It just ain't got time. Especially when you in the lane. I'm in. Cause I ain't getting checks. I ain't never got a check yet. All these chicks I'm getting on creating.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Like, even this movie, I got to go put together. The agency had to do this. I had to go get a producer. I'm finna do this movie. You know what I'm saying? I gotta go raise these elms. I'm in a. I'm not in the state. I still haven't got a check.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I don't got time.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because every piece of my business, I never got a check. Yeah. First check I got was that book. You know what I'm saying? And every other check, I create it to come every month. So I'm in that state of mind. I stay in the hustle. And once I don't got this far with it, I put that before everything. Because this my freedom.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

That's my leverage to be able to walk into meetings and be like, no. And I admit it. I ain't trying to be mean. If y' all want to blackball me, go ahead. Jesus. Jesus. Turn this whole guy. You know what I'm saying? I know I'm. But no. So relationship wise, man. It's easy to be in a relationship right now. Because if I had a woman who really on that journey with me. Bro, I ain't getting off Jesus.

[A]

Absolutely. Yeah. Staying on there.

[B]

So we ain't got to talk about him all the time. But we better know that's the head. Cause I'm not gonna get no long conversation about them blinds. Like, I ain't gonna be having no woman talking to me about all day. No two hours. I'm like, we could have talked about it. You know what I'm saying? So I just want to live and I want to have fun. I'm at that state now. I don't. I don't walk. Like I said, I don't walk across the path. So I ain't got no trauma. I wanna enjoy. Let's go eat together. Let's travel together. Let's make love, and let's work together. Let's. Let's. Okay, what you got going on? What's the best babe? What you think? I don't know. Okay. I think I want to be in those conversations of prosperity. And I want to be so in love that we don't even know we in love that we wake up and we see this person every day. Hey, you good, man. Guess what happened, man, I just seen this. You know what I'm saying? Short conversations and, man, my goddamn knee hurt. I want to say something like, man, my knee been hurting too. I don't want it to be act every day.

[A]

Yes, babe. Mm.

[B]

I feel like I'm on set. Action.

[A]

The director is here.

[B]

Yeah. Like, you know, even when people try to act like that and see cringe, will people be on tv? Yes. I'm not doing that today. Even in acting world, that scene.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

More like, hey, man, I wanna wake up, man. Baby, last night, man, I slept on the sofa. Cause my neck was hurting, you know? I know. It's just. I want that organic, natural. And I don't want to be talking some. No. What we read.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

To make our relationship better, man. Let's figure this out.

[A]

Yeah. I love that I saw on your Instagram that you bought a G wagon for your future wife.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What made you do that?

[B]

I'd make all my exes mad.

[A]

Petty, petty wang.

[B]

I did as marketing because the name of my special is a woman's Prayer. So I'm gonna start doing things up to that point.

[A]

Drake, he has like a closet of Hermes Birkin bags for his future wife.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I thought that was.

[B]

But that's her G wagon. I drove it here.

[A]

Oh, you did?

[B]

I was gonna leave it.

[A]

Guess what? I got one.

[B]

Oh, damn.

[A]

He said, I drove it here. He said, I got one.

[B]

Yep. As you spend your money, then what'd he say? As you spending your money, you supposed to keep yours. See, women nowadays don't got so independent.

[A]

Talk about it.

[B]

Let me tell you something. I'm telling you. I say this on stage every week. Women got. They say that the laziest women got the best Gucci. Let me tell you why. What they say? Because an ambitious woman uses all her creative juices up here. A lazy woman use down here. I said, that's why I like a woman. I like a cna. Cause they was too lazy to go to school for them few years to get. Sometimes you gotta keep your. You gotta keep your money, but you gotta keep your money.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

See, some women scared to be a scammer. Y' all was meant to be that. You don't supposed to be spending your money, but you wanna spend your money. Cause I wanna be independent. No, spend money. He be mad I gave you. Yep, you sure did. And what you gotta spend, you gotta. Can't be spending your own money too much. Okay. Cause that'll cause stress. Cause now you a man. Like, you supposed to do it sometimes.

[A]

The soft life we were talking about.

[B]

Yeah, you don't wanna do that because you wanna keep your money. Cause a woman got money. If she keep her money, she feel good every day no matter what. Sometimes a woman cannot handle seeing money going out her account.

[A]

She turn.

[B]

That's why I tell most men, you can't even get a woman attention until you take care of her life. She halfway talking to you is this person. But is this person in the back of her mind, she think about where she got to pay next month. So she's there, but she's never really there. If you go and just figure out a way, don't even tell her. Just pay it all. Send a check every month, guarantee. No, it ain't. This ain't for nothing. You don't gotta give me nothing. But this goes $15,000 a month, just. We can sign a contract for five years. At first she's like, you ain't gonna try me like that? And be like. Then you got her attention. So what? So what was you saying about all that stuff? That you like my eyes? She don't hear all that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

A woman can't handle money coming out that account. My daughters, bruh, I get them allowance every month. I give them $2,000. My daughter, every month. Malia, beginning of the month, she have shades on when she get her check.

[A]

Oh, my gosh.

[B]

Every month right after the 14, she Be depressed. Her mama like, what's wrong with her? I said, it's that money. They be broke by the other half of the money. I see they depression, and I be laughing so hard. But women cannot handle money going out. It's not good for they psyche, that junk. When a woman see that money, they wanna turn their car. I was like, what is this?

[A]

Right?

[B]

Not order, but they can't stop ordering stuff.

[A]

Nope.

[B]

So, man, I be telling women, every woman I know, I know some women in the industry, bro. I know some comedians. I know some women who don't spend their own money. They is depressed right now. And I feel sorry for them. They still got money, but I would pray for them because they tried that. And I'm like, y' all ain't.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

A man built for certain things. A woman built for certain things. I go. A man go down. You know? But a woman, that ain't good for her men. Cause even if she do bounce back, she don't lost some of her health on the way to that journey. So I be like, man, that why I take that pressure off my baby mamas. Cause even now. Cause they don't got no big stash. Cause I take care, but I have to give them a stash. Cause I can see it on them. They walk different.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I'm like, what the hell wrong with you? Just. They look dark. As soon as that money hit their account, I promise you, it's a light. They come, they speak different. Their bones move different.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

They weave him and glow. And they ain't even connecting. That's just weave. So how do we. Damn it. A woman can't spend her own money all the time. They can't take it.

[A]

So when we were talking, you said something about you went to this woman and you the girl that you went to, and you brought the weed for the friends, and then you got the cooch. Then the next morning, you woke up, you know, you gotta wash some dishes.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So when we talk about dishes, we all in society, we talk about gender roles. Are there things that you feel like a woman has to do in the household? And that is, some things are just for a man to do.

[B]

No. You know, it's different situations, you know what I'm saying? That woman working that man. They be washing the dishes. You know what I'm saying? You got to work with each other. So it ain't no set, it ain't no set life. It's just that for a set kind of person, like some women go make sure they ain't playing that you gotta help take care of me. Cause I'm gonna do this. So me, I just stayed the journey. I won the whole time. So if I won the whole time, at this point, we ain't got to clean up because we'll pay somebody else do it. But at that point, we couldn't pay no maid.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Okay, so who gonna wash these dishes now? I wash them. Yeah, I'm cool. I'll watch them. But you know, when I go to Keisha house, don't say that. You know what I'm saying? So it's like in each situation, I think each general. It ain't no set. What a man gotta do, what a woman gotta do, man. Because at the end of the day, when it's time to fight, when y' all fighting like a guy together, y' all just gotta look out for each other. Man. If you tired, I gotta do this. Oh, let's call somebody, let me figure this out. But at the end of the day, it depends on where you at in life and depends on who you are. Cause some women gonna make you be a man. You can't be nothing but a man.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Cause you, she ain't gonna let you be no woman. And you gonna run across some men.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

All that man stuff in you, you might well just be a woman.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Cause that happened in my past relationships too. I ain't them. Whoever you talk to. Melissa Conan raised me and she taught me how to be a man. You ain't going to be nothing but a woman. And I'm not going to put my hands on you. I ain't going to raise my voice. And I'm not malicious, but I am 100% man. So you can't be nothing but a woman. Cuz that role fulfilled. But General, you ain't got to wash no dishes. A man will go in there washing dishes. I clean my house. My house is immaculate. I'm a clean person. Ain't no woman in there. That's right. So you know.

[A]

Love it. So what is Dwayne looking for in a woman? If you were to tell the ladies.

[B]

Tell the ladies. What camera we looking at?

[A]

You can look at this one or that's Your.

[B]

Which one is this camera?

[A]

That's your camera.

[B]

To be honest, and this gonna sound cliche. I'm looking for a woman who really believe in God for real and not the world. Cause I never had a woman cheat on me with but a man as far as I know. But I had her cheat on me with the world. So I just want a woman who really believe in God for real. For real. That crazy faith. Cause if she believe in that, everything else gonna fall in order anyway. I don't need no woman who gonna clean up even though I love a clean woman. Cause we could pay somebody to do that. I don't need no woman who making some money to get some money. I don't need no woman who. I don't care if she. I don't care what it is. But if you just believe, you could come as you are. Because that's gonna work in order. And we gonna live in our own world and people gonna pay attention to us. They're like, why are they so happy, you know? Don't be picking stuff out from the world, bringing it back home. Cause he told us not to eat the apple. But we still on that iPhone with the apple on the back, bit off, still in the tree, picking up everything and bringing it back home. And God said, don't bring it back. Wow. So I just want a woman believe in Jesus for real.

[A]

Did y' all hear what he just said? We still got that iPhone with the apple in the back.

[B]

Bringing it home.

[A]

Ooh. Mm, mm, mm. We gonna just leave it right there. Oh, my gosh. I'm blown away. That was a whole Bible study. So good. So good.

[B]

Appreciate it.

[A]

No, so good. Wow. Thank you so much.

[B]

I appreciate y', all, man. I appreciate the sofa and the whole morale. This is great what y' all got going on.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

And this is right on time.

[A]

It is right on time. We're almost done. We're gonna. We have a listener letter where people write into us and give them advice.

[B]

Okay, cool.

[A]

So I'm gonna read letters. Call it positive outcome. And this young lady says, hi, crystal. I'm a 44 year old woman who just ended a 6 month relationship with a 39 year old man who I've actually known for years. We finally decided to link up one day and had great conversations about life and past relationships. Come to find out, he met all the qualities that I was looking for in a man. The only problem was he was broke and jobless. I stayed in it for six months and fell in love with the potential of him becoming the man that I wanted him to be. Things got ugly within the sixth month. I knew that it was God releasing him from me. I experienced a great deal of trauma in the past three years and actually felt secure in the moment for all the wrong reasons. Although we don't talk and everything is still fresh, he still talks to my sister who was in a relationship with one of his family members as if he and I never happened. I keep trying to figure out what is it about me that keeps falling for men who don't meet my requirements. When. When it comes to job money and faith. I work two full time jobs and I take care of myself and my children. I will continue to have faith that my equal is on the way. Can you please give me some advice to strengthen my self confidence and put boundaries between my ex and I, who I still love with friendship.

[B]

What's that last part? She said?

[A]

The very, very which part?

[B]

Hold up. She said, can you please give me something to bite? This one. She strengthened myself, confidence and put boundaries. That's the answer. She got the answer right there. She needs strength to her. She just needs to work on her, work on her. You can't work on nobody else. You can't change men. You can't change the people that come to your life. The devil gonna send them and you just gotta change you life get. Life is like from kindergarten to 12th grade. People think it's from 12th grade to kindergarten. The lesson get harder. You go from 1 plus 1 to 3x times 50x and da da da. But you get stronger along the way that it feels like kindergarten.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

So you got to strengthen you so when that stuff come, you know how to handle that. You gonna be different. Okay. Nah, I ain't gonna lie. Cause what it is, sometimes the broke man got the best D. So it's hard to leave them alone.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because they gonna. They focus on that.

[A]

Like the lazy women got the best. The broke men got the man.

[B]

I'm lazy with me. But you come home, she just laying on that sofa. Boy, you got that vibe about you. Like if you like what? That I'm lazy like you. Hard work, but you look lazy. Yeah, I'm lazy.

[A]

I definitely have a balance.

[B]

Well, you got that like. Joe, come on. See you be happy here. But like I hate to be on y' all day, but good lord.

[A]

Okay. I would tell you definitely work on yourself, do some self work, do therapy. Because it sounds like you've been through some things. You said you had trauma from past relationships in the past three years. I would work on yourself before hopping into a relationship. I do know that it is hard to deal with someone who is still friends with your family and still be kind of lingering. It's hard to get over somebody when they're still so close. Like, you know, it's like, dang, can you just. Can I have my people? You know what I'm saying? Can you just go on so that I can have my life back and not think about you or constantly have to hear about what's going on with you? So I know that's hard as well, but you can't control the fact that your sister's in a relationship with one of his family members. I would just do my best to just let your sister know. Hey, I don't want to hear anything about him. I'm trying to get over it. Even though you love him, But I think what country Wayne said was right. You have to start with yourself.

[B]

That's real.

[A]

All right, so we do something called what I'm going through and what I'm growing through. Is there anything that you're going through and growing through?

[B]

Going through.

[A]

Mm. In life?

[B]

Shoot. Not really.

[A]

Not really. Everything's just great.

[B]

I might be going through it, but he won't let me feel it.

[A]

Mmm.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

That's good. So this part of the show, we fill in the blank. It's called keep it blank, sweetie.

[B]

Okay, cool.

[A]

From this episode, I would say keep it creative, sweetie. Never, like, get complacent. Always stay creative and think of new ideas and things to do.

[B]

That's real.

[A]

Yeah. What would you say?

[B]

I like that.

[A]

You can go with us.

[B]

I'm gonna go with what you said.

[A]

All right, perfect. We saying keep it creative, sweetie. Thank you, Wayne.

[B]

Nah, thank you.

[A]

No, I appreciate you. You have such great insight, and the way you break things down is like no one else. I appreciate your funny. You had us all laughing in here. I hope you guys enjoy this episode of keep it positive, sweetie. If you want to be featured on our positive outcomes listener letter, write into keepitpositivesweetiemail.com and that sweetie with an ie you can follow Keep it positive, sweetie, on all platforms and you can follow me on all platforms at luv Crystal Renee and wait until where they can find you.

[B]

Oh, it's country Wayne with a k. K o u n T r Y Wayne.

[A]

That's right. All right, stay tuned. Make sure you guys get his book. His book. Book is entitled help is on the way. Stay up and live your truth. It's out get it. And remember, Jesus is popping. And in the meantime, until next time, keep it positive, sweetie. Love you guys.