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Coming up on Keep it positive, Sweetie.
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My question was, like, what is my real purpose? Same thing. Like, you know, with the talent and everything that I pour in, to be the best that I could be. Why aren't I, you know, put up here in the light? And then, you know, for me, the clarity was, you know, sometimes you're not supposed to be in the light because you are the light.
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You know what I'm saying? Yes. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Hey, sweeties. There is so much stigma centered around therapy when whether stress, sadness, worries, or relationship issues, there's a shame that is attached with it when there really shouldn't be. I initially started therapy during the pandemic because this was the first time I actually got to sit with myself. With the hustle and bustle of life, we can suppress so much and often neglect getting the help that we need. When I first tried therapy, I didn't feel any mental clarity or that it was working, but that was because I was not being honest with my therapist. Once I found the right licensed therapist for me and I was honest, my world completely changed. If you're like me and you know you need to talk to someone but don't know where to start, I have something for you, and it's BetterHelp. It's convenient and easily accessible on your phone. All you have to do is download the app, sign up, and fill out the questionnaire within a few days. It pairs you with a licensed therapist. So what are you waiting for? Go to www.betterhelp.com. crystal. Let's all get better together with BetterHelp. Hello, I'm Krystal Renee Hayslett, and this is. Keep it positive, sweetie. A safe space to heal, laugh, grow, and love. MC creative and a soul forever becoming. If you look at her bio on Instagram, that's how Rhapsody identifies. With a style all of her own and a flow draped in the essence of true hip hop, Rhapsody has evolved into one of the genre's most important voices. With 20 years in the hip hop game and lyrics that reach the soul, Rapsy has cemented her place atop hip hop's most elite. I'm so grateful to spend some time with her today and talk to her about where she's come from and where she's going. Raf, thank you so much for coming.
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I'm happy to be here.
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Listen, no, I'm seriously, like, I just had you write, y'.
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All.
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She was my GhostWriter for the bet cypher, so that was my first time getting to meet you. Been a huge Fan. And then I got to come to one of your shows recently here in Atlanta.
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I was so happy to see you, girl.
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That was my first time seeing you live.
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I'm glad that was the first show.
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Because these other years, I've been working my way up to that. It was so. I was just. I was literally blown away. I was just like this. Cause you're so, like, chill. Your demeanor is super chill, but when you hit that stage, that other personality comes out. I was like, that's my mom's dad. Say, like, who is that? Yeah, right, right. Have you always been, like, so chill?
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Yeah, I grew up shy.
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Really?
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We used to have talent shows, and my mom would always try to get me in it. I was Paula Abdul one time. Her and the cat. Yes, I was the cat. And I was supposed to not got on stage. I was like, absolutely not. But my mom, like, she's really into that. Like, she's the youngest of 13 kids, so she's the fun one. So every family reunion, she was Tina Turner.
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Wow.
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And I had to be her backup ground dancer. So we would watch Tina Turner study the videos, the movements every year. And that's where I learned to, like, really perform. Like, she. She's the beginning of that for me.
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Wow. Shout out moms. I love that.
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But, I mean, I think, like, I was in LA last night, and the homies were like, yo, you are so confident. And I think because I'm going through this healing phase, and I love myself more and I'm more secure in myself, I. I could be more free on stage to allow people to see all parts of me.
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Wow. I want to talk about that, because I just recently went through a healing stage where I feel more comfortable with my own skin. I know who I am. Nobody can tell me who I am anymore. You know, a lot of times you're like, well, who do you say I am? Like, okay, okay, this is cool. No, like, I know what I like, what I don't like. What was that transition like for you in that healing phase?
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Yes, during the healing phase, man, you really have to sit with yourself and be honest with yourself. Forgive yourself for some things, for not taking care of yourself and not speaking up for yourself. Because I think I had put myself in situations that, you know, left me in a bad place, trying to be there for other people, trying to be that thing for other people. And you go home and mentally, like, it's. It's so much. You're not happy. You're carrying a lot, and you have to learn, like, I Have to affirm myself. Like, I can't let this world do it. I can't, you know, look for that validation. I can't be sad if I don't get a certain, you know, like, let the ego part go, you know? And I just had to learn to be happy with me, you know, whatever is for me is for me. Like, I'm not trying to make y' all happy. I'm trying to make me happy. And I think once I understood that, it just fell into place. But it was a journey. Like, you know, it's not easy at all.
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It's not. Trust me.
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A lot of crying, a lot of solitude. Like, I didn't want to talk to nobody.
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Ye.
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It was during the pandemic, so that.
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Was a rough time for everybody. Yeah.
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I never turned the TV on. I hardly watch tv, you know, like, my. One of my best friends. Bianca loves you.
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Love.
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Shout out, B. I love her. She's like, you ain't seen Sisters? I said, bianca, I haven't watched TV like that in four years.
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Yeah.
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Like, I don't know what it is, but it's just like, I just had everything felt like fantasy, illusion. And you in the music industry on top of that.
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Yeah, it's a lot.
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You know, they tell you they think these things are real, but you realize that's not the reality of the world. So I was just sitting with a lot and shedding with a lot, and I had to learn my own truth and reality.
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Yeah. Wow. I love that because so many times, like, we see. I see you on stage, you wouldn't even know that you had to deal with something like that. And we all have our own journeys, things that we're trying to figure out, shit we're trying to work through. Like, me, like, I know myself. Like, people look like she's got it all together. No, I don't. And my brother can tell you because he helped me hold it together, because I'd be like, it's like those times, and there's times where they don't understand when you're in the light and you're pushed out there so much. You need those moments by yourself. Yeah. I want to ask you, like, as your stardom and your star continued to rise, like, did that play a part in. Like, this is a lot. I need to figure this out. Did you feel that heaviness in that weight that.
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Not so much. I was talking about this earlier. Like, I'm still. I don't feel like I'm that famous where it's that much Pressure for me. I put London may know who you are, girl, you worldwide. What you talking about?
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She worldwide. Okay? Day one is worldwide. She's so humble. But I can move around.
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Like, they was like, you came by yourself? I was like, yeah, I travel by myself a lot. That's amazing. You know, And I think I put more pressure on myself than anything because I feel like I have to check all these boxes off to be successful. And it's really not that. It's like, I wake up and I get to do what I love every day. I'm happy, I'm at peace. I can eat. I like food. Me too. The only one thing is I need more money because I like expensive clothes. You know, I try to go thrifting and all that, but I just have an attraction to expensive clothes.
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No, literally, when I'm online shopping, I'm like, ooh, I love that. It's like $5,000. Of course it's $5,000. Why is my eye drawn to that?
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That is me. I'm just like, you know, I don't.
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Need a big house. I don't need five cars.
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I just need a closet full of fly clothes. And I'll be happy. So, you know, I had to learn those things. Like, you think, you know, in my profession anyway, like, you got to get the Grammy. You need five BET Awards. You need that naacp, you know, like, and it's like, yo, you just gotta touch people at the end of the day, you know? And that's why this tour has been like, I tell people it's my place of peace, because in healing, it's not linear.
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Right, Right.
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Like, I had my days where there was some days on this too. I did a lot of crying. Really? Yeah. Like, frustrated, like, you know, just reverting back. And I. It was the shows meet and Grease. Like, you know, people affirming you. Like, the stories I heard, you know, that can feel like it could be weight, but I don't make it weight. Like, one girl told me, she was like, you're the reason I'm still here today. Like, you know, we go in and I write through lived experiences and I look at the world, but we make this music, and you never know where it's going to go and how it's going to affect people until you meet these people. That was just one story. Another lady was like, my baby was born with half a heart, and the only way I was able to get through her surgeries was listening to your song Faith. It was just so many things. Another guy, like, my mom was murdered, and, you know, and it's just like, okay, none of that other stuff matters. It's great to be acknowledged for your work, but it's always the people. I'm thankful for this tour because it keeps me centered.
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Yes. Yeah. No, I know exactly what you mean, because I'm pretty new to this, you know, to starving celebrity. It's been about four years, but as an aspiring actor and wanting to just be at the top, I got caught up in that. Like, dang, why hasn't our show gotten any awards? And we're number one? You see the numbers? You know what I'm saying? I got caught up in wanting the accolades, and then I always wondered why Tyler never worried about that, because you look back and you see all the people that you touched. What are you really here for? What is the mission? And I was like, got it. You know, And I think for me, acting was a vessel to get the notoriety to do this, because the amount of people that I reach on a more personal level, on a more level where it's like, you saved my life, or it's because of you that I'm still living like you. I don't look at it as a weight. It's a blessing and an honor to be able to tell my story and be honest and transparent that I can help people. So I totally. I get it, because I was like that, too. I was like, dang, why I ain't got this? And, like, the industry would make you feel like, oh, you ain't doing nothing. They.
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They will. And things have changed so much. Like, it's just different. You know, everything is about numbers, and that can be the illusion of it. It's not so much about talent and the image of things. So, you know, when that changes, we have to change with it, you know, what we look at. But the people are all, they're gonna keep us here forever.
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They will.
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I was telling somebody I took my mushroom.
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None of them listen loud.
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Like, that was my. That was my. You know, they. There's a question that you want to have answered. You may have your answer when you have that type of clarity.
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Wow.
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And my question was, like, what is my real purpose? Same thing. Like, you know, with the talent and everything that I pour in to be the best that I could be. Why aren't I, you know, put up here in the light? And then, you know, for me, the clarity was, you know, sometimes you're not supposed to be in the light because you are the light.
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You know what I'm saying? Yes. You Are.
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And I was with my homeboy Nico Brim, who's my artist. And he was like, yo, rap, you gotta understand, he talks to me. He was like, you know, like, you don't know, like how much many people look at you. He's like, it's like you on an unbeaten path. You just got a machete and you just shoom, shoom, shoom, so we can walk behind you. And I was like, damn, I appreciate that perspective. And I was. And I, you know, I thought I was like. But so many people have cleared the path for me and I had to think like. But it's been intended to.
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Yes. So, yeah, the weeds have grown up. Yeah.
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So now you're having to go in and be that. And you know, that was my clarity.
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Wow, I love that. That is beautiful. Navigate. I did music too. I'm working on some music now. But when I first moved to Atlanta, I was working on music. And as a woman in the industry, it was really hard for me because it's such a male dominated industry. And when you're doing it by yourself, I was really like just working relationships, trying to figure it out. What has been your path working in this industry?
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I can say mine has been blessed. You know, I've heard some horror stories.
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Yeah.
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And you know, and it should get a bad rap. I don't think everybody's experience is like that. I'm not saying mine was all good. You know, anything you want to have is going to be challenging.
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Absolutely.
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But I came up under ninth wonder, young guru. And I could say in my, the early stages of my career, the men really looked out for me. You know, they were the first two that saw my talent, that poured into me, that told me I could do it. Because being from where I'm from, like a small town in Snow Hill, North Carolina, for me, I never had exposure to that type of success. To be able to think like, I never had anybody I could look to touch same. You know what I'm saying? I was like, I want to do that, but I have no idea how. So they were the first ones, but they protected me. Like, the first thing they sat down and told me was, before you do anything in this industry, before you get in the booth and record a song, I want you to define your line. The line you will not cross, you will not lose yourself over. They made me do that. Before anything, I had to sit and know who I was first. And a lot of artists ask me for advice. I said, before you do anything, you have to ask yourself who am I. Yeah. What do I want to do in this business? That'll answer all the questions of how you move from here on out. And we just move with intention like that. Organic, authentic. Everything that we had, like, it was all organic relationships, like, just building with people. I got nothing easy. I had to earn every bit I had. I wouldn't want it any other way.
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No, you don't anything easy, you lose it easy. I say that.
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And, you know, there are some challenges. Like, you know, as a woman, I had to work 10 times harder coming up in the era that I did, you know, it was early 2000s. So it was like, you know, the late 90s, early 2000s, a woman image in hip hop changed.
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Yeah. You know. Yep.
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And so it was, like, finding our way back into that. And I felt like I had such a hard fight with that. You know, it wasn't about the sexual image to me. It was all about the talent. I didn't have a strong sisterhood village at that time. Right. Like, I'm so excited to see so many women now and to see, like, their friends. I think that's so dope. I didn't get that experience, you know, so the guy Kendrick held me down. Big Crit held me down. Held me down. Nipsey held me down. Like, the guys really looked out for me. So, you know, but otherwise, it was just really hustle. I just put my head down. I don't know. I just. I wouldn't take no for an answer, you know?
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Yep.
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And, you know, it was like, I've been called everything ugly. I was chunkier than you. Fat. You'll never make it. Nobody wants to hear that. You're boring. You know, it's too black. Like, it was just thing after thing after thing, and a lot of it from the early beginnings was from black women and that, you know, I remember that. That was probably the hardest weight that I had to carry, like. But, you know, you find your village.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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And this season is so beautiful.
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I can see it on you. Your energy is just so, like. Like what you said you're looking for the light, but you are the light, and I see that in you, and I love that you found that peace and happiness in this season.
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Thank you.
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That is dope. You said something about sister circles in the industry. Have you found, like, your sister circle in the industry now? Are you still with the boys?
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I mean, I'm old.
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You with everybody. Yeah.
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Not. It's. I. I grew up with boys all my life. Like, I'm from a big family. My mom is one of 13. But all my cousins around my age were boys, so that's what I was used to comfortable with. But it's, you know, you grow up and you really experience life and you realize it's not till you find, like, your sisterhood village. I have like four or five really, really close best friends. And I was like, I understand the importance of having sisterhood now because the way we show up for each other and the way that we see each other and understand what we go through, I can't really have with guys. And they have been my rock. But in the industry, like, I have a beautiful village. Radega, Queen Latifah, MC Light, Erykah Badu. Like, the last two or three years, we built a beautiful friendship. She's one of my best friends. I love her to death. Sanaa Lathan, you are now in my village.
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Of course.
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Bianca, Sherry Bryant, and even like the girls, Lady London.
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I love her too.
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Tierra Whack. I talked to her.
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So talented.
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Yeah. I'm so happy.
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That's amazing. Do you guys talk to each other about, like, your struggles in the industry or like what you may be battling in this certain season, especially, like, the women, like, in the industry that you are cool with?
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Yeah. Light has given me advice sometimes. Bia has hit me before asking for advice. I've given her advice. Yeah, I love that.
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That's dope. I love that.
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It's important to me because I know how it feels to not have that. So I try to, for me, anyway, I extend myself to everybody. But Queen Latifah has taken me under her wing and giving me advice. Like, Badu is always giving me advice. You know, my sit. I did a sit down like this with her and talked for maybe just 20 minutes.
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Yeah.
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And she dropped so many jewels. Like, it was past music. It was just life, love, relationships. So. Yeah.
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Do you ever just sit back and when you're, like, thinking about the names you just named, like, these are people that are sewing into me. They're like, wow, these are like icons that we grew up to and now this is your life. Like, isn't that crazy?
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It's so crazy. It's like it's twofold, right? I definitely look at that. I be like, yo, me and B are really cool. But I'm like, at the end of the day, they just like, me too, you know? And they'll have people hit me and they're like, yo, we got a meet and greet. I don't know what to say to you. And I'm just like, just be yourself. I'm the homegirl. Right.
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And I have to think, like, they.
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Want the same thing. But it is crazy because, like, I grew up being inspired by these women.
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Right.
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Mama's gun.
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Listen, listen.
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When I started rapping, Time's a Wasted was like my soundtrack.
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Yeah.
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Don't waste your time every day. Like Lauren I have. I don't have a deep relationship, but I'm able to email her. Yeah. Like those things. Yeah. But yeah, MC Light, like, MC Light calls me the most rabbity rap. I'm just checking on you. Where you at? Like, it's just so dope.
A
That's beautiful. And it warms my heart to hear that because a lot of times I feel like in our culture, especially in our. In our society, we don't see that in the black community.
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Yeah.
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Just like how you said it was when you were hearing these comments. It was mainly from women that look like you.
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Yeah.
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And like, so it feels really good to know that, like, we checking on each other, doing those check ins. This is important.
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It's so important.
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Yeah. Because they can see you on stage and not know you hurting when you go into the dressing room.
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Boy, you know, I'm trying to tell you some days.
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Yeah.
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I'd be like, yeah. They knew how I started my day, baby. Oh.
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I had a moment like that one a few seasons ago. It was an episode with Eva Marcel and I was in my closet just like trying to. Crying, trying to get it together and got out, got on the sofa and I literally was like, she said something and I just lost it. And I was like, if you knew what I was going through before I wiped those tears off and like, hey, you would be like, what? You know, and they don't see that. They don't. So it's always good to have good people to check on you.
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Yeah.
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Check on your strong friends. I know people hear that and think it's cliche, but seriously, check on your strong friends.
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Yeah. And it could be just as simple as just sending a note. Yep. Like, I just randomly text somebody. Like, create a great day. Breathe easy. Yeah.
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Oh, I love that. Yeah.
B
Badu sent me one day at random. Like, I declare she had like 12 things to declare that day. And I was just like, dope. I saved it.
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Yeah.
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So it's just things like that. But we got to get back to Community. We've gotten so far away from Community, and that's what we were built on, you know, like, looking out for each other, making sure you heard of I'M about to go. I'm about to be random. You heard of this term called ikigai? So it's, it's. It's based on this small island in Japan where the oldest people live.
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Wow.
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And it's like, why do they live so long? And they practice this thing called ikigai and it's living within your purpose.
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Right.
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And so the whole community, they walk a lot every day. They eat like a lot of rice. They only eat to 80% full. But I thought it was so dope that if someone in the village and everybody has to get a job and their purpose, that makes them happy. You have to do things that make you happy and bring you joy. But if somebody loses their job, they're about having no stress in life. So the community take care of that person until they get back on their feet.
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Wow.
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And I just think about, like, if we all operated from that place, like, I don't know.
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I like that. Yeah. That is. Maybe you should like, kind of create like a. A space for that.
B
That could be cool.
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Yeah. Just to get people's minds in that space, like, you know.
B
Yeah.
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We should, like, continue to support each other and help each other.
B
Yeah. I love that.
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I recently went to Costa Rica, one of the five blue zones where people live the longest. And I feel it's probably like one, because there is one. I feel like in Japan as well. That may be the place. Yeah. Because where I went to, the people, they grew their own food, they hiked every morning. And like, they did the cold plunges in the natural river, did the hot plunge in the natural. Like, they had different spaces. But these people lived to be over 100 years. And even cooking for their families was a way to show love and to exercise same.
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It's the same.
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Yeah.
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We got. We cracked the code, right.
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We so far gone in America, it's like, but I want Chick fil a seriously. Now, you told me earlier that you are now vegan. And I told you, speaking on about longevity, I told you about my vegan journey. Inspired.
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Don't do what I did.
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So when I was vegan, I was vegan for about two years. Shout out. Luke James. He actually inspired me to go vegan a few years ago. This is probably like, maybe was it five years ago, Keith around five years ago. I did it for two years.
B
What did he do that inspired you?
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He was vegan. This is when he was filming Star and I did a Thanksgiving, like a friendsgiving. But he was like, I'm vegan. I was like, great. So now I got to figure out vegan Thanksgiving as well as the normal Southern Thanksgiving. So I did it. And I turned, I was like, oh.
B
This isn't half bad.
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I was like, I could do this if I could still have what tastes like what I want. So they had like vegan turkey, vegan Mac and cheese, the sweet potato casserole, all the things. I was like, okay. Even the stuffing didn't have milk in it. So it worked. It worked so I, like, I could do this. So I stuck with it. My cramps and everything went away. Cuz I had like really bad cramps for my menstrual. And I was like, I can do this. Until they ordered them junior cricket wings.
B
Junior Cricket? Cricket.
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That's the. That was the wing that broke you. The JR Cricket, baby. Junior cricket broke me down, honey. I was like, just give me one of them wings. I was over there scratching like a little crack. I was like, give me one of them wings. So I would chew the wing and spit it out just so I could.
B
I'm not mad at you, girl.
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They were. They like, you a fake vegan. I said, I'm a flexitarian swallowing. That's why it did not go in my body. The juices, I got it. I got that fix I needed. I was in my cravings, girl. I'm telling you, they make fun every time. Like, oh, yeah, I went vegan. And somebody who was around that time, they were like, she was not vegan. She was eating chicken and spitting it out. I was like, it was.
B
Well, I ain't technically eat it. I chewed it.
A
I chewed it. What actually, like, inspired you to go vegan? I'm always interested chicken. Just because I felt like that. You know Grand Lux Cafe out here. Yes.
B
They have this bourbon chicken.
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It's got like this sauce on it with the corn.
B
And one day I stared at it on DoorDash for 30 minutes. I was like, is today gonna be.
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The day that I break?
B
Cause I could just taste it in my mouth. What inspired me, I was in the studio session with Amanda Reifer, and she and her manager were talking about a cleanse that they did. And they were like, yo, rap. Like, you know, we lost weight, but they were like, we had the most energy we have ever had. Like, we felt this state of euphoria.
A
Wow.
B
And I was like, I want to feel that.
A
Yeah.
B
I want to know what that feels like. And I had been like wanting to go vegan for a while, but I was like, oh, yeah, I don't know how to get There. So I was like, okay, before tour, I'm gonna do this cleanse, you know? So it was. It was. It's a pretty intense cleanse. 21 days.
A
Wow.
B
And I just started it one day, and it was. I had the most energy because I have graves disease, so my metabolism is low. And, you know, when I travel a lot, I could miss pills. So I would go home and I could nap four or five times a day. Like, it was like, I could never get enough sleep. So I started this cleanse, and I had the most energy I've ever had in a long time. Like, I didn't. I would lay down, at least try to take one nap. I couldn't nap. So I get back up. It was like I had restless leg. I just always wanted to be moving. I would go to the gym, and he'd be like, you only doing juices? Like, yeah, it was gonna go. Like. I was like, no, I'm good. Like, you know, So I was. I was asking him to do more in the gym than normal. So I just felt really good. I. I reached a state of clarity and euphoria. My skin looked good, and I had been telling myself, like, I want to get to the point where I don't have to wear makeup if I don't want to, because my skin looks good enough.
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Yes.
B
And, yeah, I just felt good. So once I finished it, I was just like, I don't have an urge to go back.
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Yeah.
B
And I just. I haven't gone back.
A
Wow. I'm proud of you. That's good.
B
Food has been tasting good now.
A
Do you ever have, like. Because for me, I was raw vegan for a while too, and I would tell my friend, ooh, come try this. And it'd be like, tacos. But it was like ground walnuts with some cumin and stuff. And I'm like, oh, my God, this tastes just like tacos. It did not. You had to trick yourself. I was tricking myself and my friend. Like, it's. It does not taste like a taco. I know what a taco tastes like. I'm like, girl, it tastes just like it. Like, psyching myself out. It might have tasted.
B
Cause, you know, to us, it be.
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It's good. Yeah, it.
B
Dude, I tried to get my mom to stop drinking, like, certain types of water. I'm like, try this mountain valley. She be like, I don't like it. I like. You used to them toxins in your water. Yeah. That's why giving your water a little taste.
A
Right? Sound like that. That is Funny. She would mess with the water tacos. No, not at all. Like, she, that's one of my friends who was around when I was eating chicken as a vegan. She was like, she's like. Then she would come in there and be like, ooh, taste this. And she's like, it did not taste nothing like what it was supposed to taste like.
B
Oh, my God.
A
Girl. I did it though. It was good. It was like you. I had so much energy. I felt really good. I was probably in the best shape of my life. I go back and look at that 2019 body.
B
Yeah.
A
So right now I'm doing plant based pescatarian.
B
Okay.
A
Trying to like wean myself. Okay. I just couldn't quit everything.
B
Yeah.
A
So I stopped the chicken, I stopped the steak because I love steak too. That's my problem. I love a good steak. So I cut that out and that like within probably like two weeks, I've already. I was. I had gotten up to like 205. I'm down to 195.
B
That's amazing.
A
Thank you. Thank you. And I feel good.
B
I'm like, okay.
A
Because I went to the doctor like two weeks ago to get everything, get blood taken. Just check out everything. And she called me today and she's like, your blood sugar level is pre diabetic. I said, wait, what?
B
How we get there?
A
And I don't even eat sweets. Like, I'm not really a sweet person. I was like, she's like, no, it's like she said, she's. I don't put you on anything because your lifestyle, you got a chef, you're eating better and you're working out. But she said, we got to monitor this. And my father, he was diabetic and. And now he's like down to one pill. He gets up every morning like 5am and works out. He doesn't eat as much. Yeah. Like, he's like, dad is 72 and like, really, like, I'm so proud of him because I was like, dad, I want you here. You know, I was like, we made it. You know what I'm saying? Now you got to experience all these amazing things. But you're not going to do that if you keep eating and living the way you living. And when I tell you he turned that thing around, he's like, now I'm down to just one pill a day. I'm like, what?
B
You can do so much for just changing our diet. That lets you know, like, how bad our food is. My dad is diabetic too. That runs on his side of the family. So it was something too. But like, I remember, like, before I went vegan, I would be in the gym working out, and I get down to like 145. I'm like, yes, yes. And then, you know, traveling two months, I'm back to 173.
A
And I'm just easy.
B
Traveling is so hard, you know? Cause I don't know how to do hair, so.
A
Okay. And I love. Can I sidebar? I love your, like, long bot. I've never even seen that. And I. At the show, I was like, is her hair cut in the back? I thought it was just like pulled all to the front. She was like, no, it's a boba stick.
B
That's fire.
A
But yeah, I love your hair.
B
Gotta try me.
A
Still doing that one. Oh, I look. Oh, dope. Yeah, that's fire.
B
But you know, on tour, I'm like, these tracks are hanging on by a thread. That's why I keep something on my head wrapped up. Cause I've lost a track on the show before.
A
You just gotta. You gotta roll. Like the school days. Who's it? Yes. That's funny.
B
You know, so it's just. I forgot where I was.
A
Oh, yeah, no, okay. Because I just had to tell you about your hair. It's so dope. But, yeah, like, trying to keep up on the road, like, with eating and like.
B
So I'm like, I can't go to the gym. I have to sweat my hair out. Food, you know, you want something quick and it's late. Like, and especially I have Graves disease. My metabolism is already slow.
A
Can you tell us exactly what Graves disease is? I've heard of, but I'm not really educated on it.
B
Yeah, I have it. Missy Elliot has it. It's an autoimmune disease. Your thyroid is a butterfly shaped organ that sits right over.
A
I just learned about that, the shape of it. My doctor told me this morning when she was going through everything, she's like, it's like, yeah, butterfly. She got like a bow tie kind of.
B
It's like a bow tie and it creates a hormone. It's like the thermostat for your body controls your body temperature, your metabolism, you know, your mind. Sometimes, like, it's a lot of part of the human body that it affects. So I got diagnosed in 2009. I was hyper, so I was creating too much of a certain hormone. My metabolism shot up. I could eat anything and I was still like 110.
A
What?
B
Yeah, I got down to 1 10. I hadn't been 110 since I was 14 years old. Like, you know, my eyes bulged. Like, at one point I thought I wanted surgery just to get them back to normal, but, you know, they've gone down. And so I had to have radioactive iodine treatments, and one didn't work for me. I had to have three, which is super rare.
A
Wow.
B
And so now I'm hypo, which means I don't create enough of the hormone.
A
Right.
B
I have very slow metabolism, which tired. Brain fog. It can affect your memory, your joints. Like, I was cold all the time, anemic. So all these things. But once I did that cleanse and started eating vegan, I was just like, I haven't felt this good in a long time.
A
Wow. Health is wealth.
B
It is.
A
Yeah. And I'm glad that you were smart enough to be like, hey, let me go get this checked out, because something's not right. Because a lot of times we let things just fly because we can still move around. I'm good. I'm good. But, you know, something isn't right. You have to trust and listen.
B
Listen to your body.
A
Yes. Yeah.
B
And it's crazy. Like, I knew. I knew something wasn't right just from the weight loss. I threw up one day. I never get sick.
A
Yeah.
B
But I went to three, four doctors, and they all were like, nothing's wrong with you. Nothing's wrong with you. I woke up one day and my. My eyes had. Were bulging, and my brother looked at me. He was like, why your throat so big?
A
Right.
B
And I had. I was developing a small gorder, and my brother was the one that was like, wow, you gotta go to. And that's how they figured out what.
A
Was wrong with me.
B
Oh, my goodness.
A
I'm glad your brother, like, was like, hey, sis.
B
Yeah.
A
Yeah.
B
So, I mean, he was looking at. Reading a joke for sure.
A
Yeah. Right, right. But no, he called it out.
B
So. Yeah, but you, you know, like, our healthcare system, especially with black people, that's.
A
Why you said they sent four people, was like, oh, you're fine, you're fine.
B
Nothing wrong with you. Like, you know, I guess we superhuman out this face like that. So, yeah, we have to listen to our body and demand and go back and go back. Like, I watched my mom deal with that for almost 20 years.
A
Wow.
B
And I look back and I'm. I tell her all the time, like, I'm. I wish that we were more supportive, you know, of how you were feeling and what you were going through. Doctor, doctor, doctor. Doctor would be like, yo, the doctor said nothing's Wrong. And she's like, no, something. Something's wrong.
A
Yes. Right.
B
So yeah, it was, it was a good reminder.
A
I love that. I love that. The Please Don't Cry tour. I got to see this live. And what I'm seeing is like, this is one of your most trance, your most transparent albums. What inspired this and like what made you say, you know what, I'm really going to just put it out there.
B
I wanted to grow in that way. I wanted to have a better connection with my fans. You know, we sometimes in our process of like, yo, why aren't I more well received?
A
Right?
B
And it's always a self. I try to be self reflective with it and not project it out on other people. And it was like, okay, maybe you make it too hard for people to break down your lyrics because you're so lyrical. That's why in the beginning it was heavy men fan base when women like we operate sometimes from more emotional.
A
We do, yeah.
B
And you know, I don't. People don't want to think like they think all day at work. So I don't want to think too hard to break down all these lyrics. So I was just like, you know, I'm already in this healing phase and for me, when you do music, it should be a snapshot of your life. So you already in this space, like just document it. But it was scary to put out. Like, I'm a private person eating dairy girl.
A
I don't know nothing about you except for your music. I was like, this girl is like under the radar, like so good.
B
And when I thought like I was sharing things in my music, I realized like, no, you were hiding the things so deep in your lyrics and it was because you were afraid for people to see you. Oh, like I was, you know, I tell people like, I'm at the space now. I even want to go by my real name because I don't need Rhapsody anymore. She was a protection for Marina.
A
Wow.
B
You know what I'm saying? Like, I understand where I was, you know, like I talk about a lot of things on the album. Talk about abortion, I talk about, you know, having a relationship with a married man. My first experience, my one time experience with a woman, like it's, you know, Alzheimer's, you know, family, you know, the hard times that I go through personally with the music industry. You know, I'm going show up always. And you know, you talk like, never let anybody see your car, see your weakness. So you know, but at home, like you say like we going through things. So it was like the only way you can have a better connection with people is they have to see that you're human.
A
Yeah.
B
You know, and it took my friend circle to get me there.
A
Really?
B
Yeah. Like, two, two, three. Really? Misa Hilton was one.
A
Yes. She's so talented.
B
My friend Raina Biddy, who's a poet, and Sonalathan, you know, during that phase, they were like my guys. They taught me so much about self reflection, about manipulation, about fear. And I had a lot of unlearning to do and relearning.
A
Yeah.
B
But, you know, it was the pandemic. I was just in the house just pouring out, pouring out. Like, I had two album ideas before. I just. You know, the pandemic, you sit still. And again, TV was off, and it was just like all these things that I was hoarding and holding, they just came and resurfaced, and I just put it out in the music, and I was just like, this is the album.
A
Yeah. You know, the masterpiece is so good.
B
You want to grow, you have to do the hard things. And I'm. It's the best decision that I made. Yeah. And I had to make it. Scared.
A
Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
B
Because, you know, it was like, I'm afraid of the world to judge me. But I. I learned that, yo, nobody is perfect, you know, and what I learned in putting out these albums, a lot of people been through a lot of things they have been through.
A
They just don't say it.
B
You can say, I'll never do that. Never do that. Until you in a situation, you're like, I don't know how I got here.
A
Yep.
B
I'm not happy about this decision I made.
A
Yeah.
B
But I got to learn from the experience, and I got to share it, and hopefully, you know, it's a guy for somebody else, you know, or healing for somebody else.
A
So, yeah.
B
You know, I love it.
A
I love it. I could tell by just the crowd participation and how everybody was singing lyric for lyric right there with you, how they resonate with it. That was proof that you opening up and they've been resonating with you, but that the passion of them people were rapping. I was like, oh, yeah.
B
I could feel it.
A
Like, you could literally, like, feel it in the room. It was so dope, man.
B
That's crazy. I'll have my Internet. So I can't hear it.
A
Yeah, I know. When I put mine on, literally can't hear anything. I'm like. But you can feel it, though. You can, like, feel the vibrations of the energy.
B
They were.
A
It was Crazy. Actually, I'm gonna show you when we wrap. I had some. I'm sure you've seen the footage, but when you went into the crowd and all the cameras were on you, it was so dope. I was like, this is. When she went into the crowd. I was like, this is a rock star right here.
B
We started that in Chicago. Like, I was on stage and they were going so crazy. And Joc, my playback engineer, he was in my ear. He was like, you gotta go in the crowd.
A
Wow.
B
I was like, what?
A
I was like, you think so? He's like, go in the crowd. It was. They loved it. Yeah, it was. I was like, wait, where is she? I was like, she's in the crowd right now. They laugh at me because security came at one point.
B
They were like. And I told them, I. I mush myself. Move.
A
Right. You know, we.
B
With the people.
A
Yeah. Right.
B
We don't even attract that kind of energy at all.
A
Exactly. They're not gonna do. Exactly. Yeah.
B
But now this album has been. It's the most important and my favorite album of my career. I love that.
A
I love that. Speaking of your album, and then you talked about so many things on your album, and you are such a mystery. Is there. Like, how do I need to know? Maybe give me some tips on. Do you have, like. Are you in a relationship? Or is there, like, any love that is going on? How do you keep it private?
B
Because, like, I kept that. That one. I shouldn't have been in private for nine years. It was horrible.
A
Yeah.
B
Like, I've been single now almost five years.
A
Wow.
B
Yeah. But, like, retro, going back, that one relationship I was in nine years shouldn't have been in.
A
Yeah.
B
I ain't gonna get too deep.
A
Yeah.
B
You know, but you know how it goes. Like, I was. I never do that. You know, somebody tells you, like, oh, that's not really what my situation is.
A
They would do that.
B
You know, like. And you find yourself stuck. Right. Especially because I was a people person and because I put other people's feelings and emotion before my own. It was like, I have to be there for you. I can't be there for myself.
A
It was horrible.
B
I'll be in the shower sometimes crying because I felt so bad about what I was doing. But, you know, it was only hotels, you know, you know, movies, looking around like. Yeah, but it's.
A
I ain't in a relationship, so it's not you. Good. Now.
B
I don't. I don't have the answers.
A
Are you open to one?
B
Yeah.
A
So what would be your. Because I would like to ask people what are their. What's their love language out of the five? Like, what's rap's love language?
B
I think words are affirmation.
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love that one. Mine is all of them. I wanted to say that.
B
Give me everything I want.
A
Yes. I want the touch. I want the words of reformation. I want that. What's the other one?
B
What's the other Love language is gifts.
A
Gifts. Somebody said gifts twice, but gifts, I said it twice, which means, I really like that one. I really like that one. And touch. I love. And I'm a very touchy person, so I love touch. So, yeah, all of them.
B
I'm learning to be more affectionate in that way. Like, I grew up, and my mom.
A
And dad are not affectionate at all. A lot of people, like, a lot of us grew up. My parents definitely showed affection in front of me. So I'm like, very much like. But, like, guys that I've dated before were not. And it was kind of like, why are you touching me? And I'm like, maybe like, stop. And then they realize, oh, when you start to do the work and realize where these certain, like, triggers come from, it's like, oh, now I get it.
B
Yeah. Like, yeah, yeah. My mom and dad, they show different. My mom likes to do things. She's acts of service.
A
Okay, that's the other one.
B
Acts of service.
A
Yeah. Like, that was for you.
B
Clean, make sure your clothes did, like, you know, I'mma pay for somebody to come cut the grass. Things like that.
A
Yeah.
B
I would say my. My dad is the same way in his older age. He's a lot more Words of affirmation. Oh, that's like.
A
Oh, that's cute.
B
I didn't know you had that in you. But I had to learn. Like, it took me a while to say I love you. I remember the first time my mom told me, like, said it.
A
Yeah.
B
I felt so uncomfortable. Like, me and my sisters talk about that all the time.
A
Yeah.
B
And we. We always knew that we were loved. We have great parents. But, like, for them to be like, I love you.
A
I was. Yeah.
B
That's weird.
A
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
B
But I've. I've come to. I say it a lot to my friends now. Like, they've helped make me comfortable. My relationship in the past have made me comfortable.
A
That's good.
B
But, yeah, no, I'm. I'm. I'm open to dating.
A
I love it.
B
Somebody asked me, like, how do you date? Like, being you, I'm like, it's a new. It's so hard. Like, no one. The dating pool girl.
A
We just. I just had tragedy, a conversation about that. It's so bad.
B
Yeah, tragedy. I was like, I don't. I don't really go out like that. Like, I'm not a club girl. I don't even know where to go. I don't. You know, you just always in the industry. And somebody was like, I know you got somebody in your DMs. I was like, Ain't nobody in my DMs. No, there's like, I would have checked.
A
And it was nobody there.
B
The only people in my DM are married man. People I'm not into. I didn't want to say that, but yes, I said it.
A
I'm like, now look at you and look at me. And then look at you again and ask yourself, why are you here? It needs to. Yeah.
B
And one of my homeboys, they was like, rap him. Tell you what your problem is. I was like, what is my problem? He was like, men know that they have to come correct.
A
Yes.
B
And a lot of them know that they ain't coming correct. So they not gonna step to you.
A
Oh, yeah. That's like, probably 90% of them.
B
Yes.
A
I can't play with this one. Yeah, yeah.
B
And then, you know, like, in the last four and a half years, I've probably been taken on maybe two or three dates, but they all be the young boys. Girl, I can't do nothing with you. I'll be like, but age ain't number. I'd be like, you're an actor and you young. No, baby, I'm not. In that season of Life, I went.
A
Through that phase where it's like, everybody was coming. Was like, 28, 31.
B
I'm like, yo, 26. What am I.
A
What am I gonna do with you? You younger than my little brother.
B
Yeah.
A
Like, I can't.
B
I was talking to this guy, and he probably see this. Cause I never said, but I'm giving you attention, so you should know, like, I think you're cool.
A
Right?
B
And he was like, yo, what shows are you watching? I was like, I ain't watching a lot, but in the last years, these have been my favorites. He sent me a list, and he had the Jamie Foxx show on it. And I was just looking at it. The Jamie Foxx show.
A
How old was he?
B
The Jamie Foxx Show.
A
Does he still come on, like, rude?
B
He lived through that.
A
Yes. Like, season one to whatever it was. Yes. The new. What to do with that? Yes, sir. The Jamie Park Show. Shout out Jamie, love that show. But what now in the year of our Lord 2024? The fact you was like. I was looking like, now, Martin not gonna say that. Cuz they play Rerun Martin like all day and that's like.
B
Girl's like, just. Just be in it. Give it a chance.
A
Like, he was like, that is so funny. I love it. I love it. Oh, my goodness. So, Rab, I want to play a little game with you. Now, I don't know how good I'm gonna be at the this, but I want to give you a word. And we're gonna rap.
B
Oh, you want the freestyling game? I'm a rap. Let me tell you.
A
And you about to kill me in this.
B
There's a difference in being a writer and a freestyler.
A
The best.
B
I'm a great writer. I'm gonna meet with the writing.
A
Yes. Can be a little shaky on the.
B
Freestyle, but let's have fun.
A
Let's just have some fun. So. Okay, I'm just gonna.
B
So you who kicking off? Me.
A
Yeah. Give us a word, Sheree. First word that comes to me, love. That's easy. Okay. All right. It was the neck roll for me. She got the beat.
B
Okay. Yo, two sisters talking love like the earrings by Simone and Mary. I got these freestyles and the word is going to carry. We came through feeling like Barry White.
A
I want to say a song.
B
He sing, but I don't know, like.
A
I don't know anymore.
B
I ain't got no mics. Give me one more word.
A
I can keep this tight.
B
I don't know. Me, me, me, me.
A
That was horrible, girl. I'm about to be back. Give me words. Oh, God, I can't believe I'm about to do this. Oh, this is the negro for me, though. What is this? Fitness. Fitness. That's a weird word to rap about. Okay, okay. I'm in my fitness bag. A witness. Yeah. Never snitching, never had. Ah, yeah. Never brag. What?
B
Give me another word.
A
That's music. Music. Okay. What is this? What is this name?
B
And that's your joint right there.
A
That's how you get music. Yeah. Music is the way I sing, yeah. Music is the melody to my heart from the start I hope you're with me and never part Never part. The music, the one that David danced. Make me wanna wave my hand Wave my hands hey, praise him high yeah Most high, Most high Put my hands to the sky for the Lord, yeah. When I sing, then I rap.
B
Yeah.
A
I got my girl rap right here on the what? Yeah, we Rapping music. I'm not even rhyming. That's what I do.
B
Yeah.
A
Yo, what's your rap name again? Murder. You know, you heard us.
B
A body on the floor. That's what she did to the verses. We connected like sisters.
A
Incursive. And if you want to see it, we bring the worsted. Yeah. I love it. You gonna be like rap. You suck. Never, girl, Ever. Don't even. That. Don't even. Those two words don't even go together. Oh, my God, sis, thank you so much. That was fun. I appreciate you. I learned so much more about you. I know you guys did. I appreciate you so much.
B
Thank you.
A
Keep going. Yes.
B
There's more to know about me. So I gotta come back.
A
Yes, please, please come back. I love your energy and you are always welcome. Seriously.
B
We're gonna be in the kitchen next time.
A
Yep. Making walnut tacos. Yep. Plant based vegan dishes. All the things. I got my grinder and some water for the walnuts. I got some cumin and a little garlic. You ain't happy about that. I know. I want some. All right, we go. You like? Girl, this tastes just like some ground turkey.
B
Yeah. Cause it is.
A
I ain't gonna do that to you. That is. That'd be so cruel. No. I'd be like, okay, here goes nothing. Here goes nothing. It's a lettuce on there. That's vegan. You be all right. Straight up. Oh, man. Thank you. Thank you. Seriously, I appreciate it. My conversation today with Rapsy really got me thinking. And something that really stuck out to me was when she said something about boundaries. Boundaries is so important to me. And she said, where do you cross your line? What is the line that you are not willing to cross? And that's something that I want to challenge you all. Whatever it is that you're trying to do, make sure that you have a line that you are not willing to cross. Because if you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything. Rhapsody came through with all the positive vibes, and I hope you felt them, because I sure did. If you want to share your thoughts on today's show, you can follow me on all social media platforms at lovechristalrenee. And you can also follow our show at Keep it positive, sweetie. If you want to write into our positive outcomes listener letter, you can send us an email@keepitpositivesweetiemail.com in the meantime, in between time, you know what's to do. Keep it positive, sweetie. I'll see you guys next time.
Episode: Rhymes & Reasoning with Rapsody
Host: Crystal Renee Hayslett
Guest: Rapsody
Release Date: November 17, 2024
This heartfelt and candid conversation centers on healing, self-discovery, and standing in one’s truth. Crystal Renee Hayslett and acclaimed hip hop artist Rapsody discuss personal growth, the realities of fame, the importance of community, and women supporting women in both life and the music industry. Rapsody shares her wellness journey, artistic evolution, reflections on her latest album, and the power of authentic relationships, all underscored by honest, uplifting exchanges.
This episode radiates authenticity, vulnerability, and warmth. Rapsody’s story is not just about her rise in hip hop but about finding peace, building true community, and learning to be the light for herself and others. Listeners leave with inspiration to honor their boundaries, embrace healing, and extend compassion to themselves and their communities—always keeping it positive, sweetie.