The Voice Within: Faith, Success & Self-Trust

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Keep it Positive, Sweetie

Episode: The Voice Within: Faith, Success & Self-Trust
Host: Crystal Renee Hazlett
Guest: 2 Chainz
Release Date: March 29, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode of Keep It Positive, Sweetie centers on the power of intuition, faith, resilience, and self-trust through the lens of Grammy-winning artist and entrepreneur 2 Chainz. The conversation touches on the significance of listening to the “voice within,” overcoming obstacles, maintaining health and emotional wellness, and the lessons of legacy, growth, and staying grounded amid success.

2 Chainz joins Crystal Renee Hazlett to discuss his debut memoir, The Voice in My Head is God, exploring the role of faith and intuition in his journey from College Park to international acclaim, the importance of trusting one’s internal compass, family, fatherhood, and authentic living.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Origins, Faith, and Intuition

• 2 Chainz’s Book Inspiration:

  • He wanted his book to be “something with substance” for a wider audience, not just a traditional autobiography (13:37).
  • The voice in his head—initially attributed to intuition—was ultimately recognized as God or divine guidance.
  • Noted that this voice helped him navigate major decisions, both personally and professionally:

    “When I follow that voice, it ultimately leads me to success.” (12:23)

• Universality of Inner Guidance:

  • Everyone possesses this intuition, but often it goes unrecognized until we slow down to listen.

    “What if that’s God, like, whispering... just saying, like, 'man, you know, this ain’t... it’s time to go.'” (14:06)

• Women and Intuition:

  • 2 Chainz believes women, including his mother and wife, are particularly in tune with intuition, describing women as “superheroes.” (12:41)

2. Reflections on Family, Legacy, and Fatherhood

• Impact of Upbringing:

  • Raised by a “man’s man” father (military, “Boys Don’t Cry” era), who instilled both toughness and admiration in 2 Chainz (19:02).
  • Reflected on learning emotional expression after years of being numb, especially when his father passed away:

    “When he passed, I literally needed, like, windshield wipers on my eyes...” (19:02)

• Fatherhood Today:

  • Focused on being present and empowering his children, particularly his son Halo, with confidence and life skills (21:04).
  • Values experiences and quality time, inspired by memories with his own father and grandfather (22:05).

• Letting Kids “Fly”:

  • Discussed his father’s metaphor of the eagle—letting one’s children soar on their own.

    “It was just saying, like, God is love... right in my face the whole time.” (54:59)

3. Success, Setbacks & Decisions

• Following the Inner Voice:

  • Shared pivotal moments, like leaving his first record deal without a clear plan, trusting pure instinct:

    “A voice told me... I need to be out here doing this.” (26:09)

  • Noted the frequent consequences of ignoring intuition—describing moments of regret and learning.

• 360 Record Deals Explained:

  • Broke down why he avoided restrictive contracts, emphasizing self-worth and business acumen (32:16).
  • Endorsed independence and leveraging relationships built over time.

• Resilience on Tour (The Wheelchair Story):

  • After breaking his leg, instead of canceling a major independent tour, he creatively performed in a pink wheelchair with dancers as nurses—turning adversity into a unique, memorable performance:

    “I believe in being optimistic. How you turn this around?” (38:20)

• Longevity in the Industry:

  • Reinvention and staying true to himself are key, as well as trusting the “voice within.”

4. Health, Wellness, and Sobriety

• On Lean Abuse:

  • Discussed personal struggles with “lean” addiction, its root in self-medication for chronic stomach issues, its physical and mood effects, and eventual need to quit for health (42:26–46:48).
  • Living healthy with a disciplined routine—working out, stretching, diet—to maintain peak performance and longevity (47:08):

    “Entertainment is really like another form of sports.” (47:16)

• On Muting the Inner Voice:

  • Substances can cloud intuition and self-awareness—urged listeners to recognize when ego, fear, or substances drown out that inner guidance (52:14–53:36).

5. Therapy, Self-Knowledge, and Growth

• Therapeutic Outlets:
  • Writing the memoir, making music, and film were described as different “therapists” in his life (56:01).
  • Open but tentative about formal therapy; values self-evaluation thanks in part to his psychology background (57:30):

    “I have identified some of my triggers through self-evaluation.” (57:36)

6. Entrepreneurship, Investment & Authenticity

• Business Ventures:
  • Invests in various industries (SpaceX, G-League teams), translating lessons from street hustling to entrepreneurship (59:59).
  • Emphasizes showing up as his true self in new business arenas:

    “When they say they like me, I know they liking a real version of me. I'm not putting that on.” (61:46)

7. Unapologetic Living & Advice

• Boundaries:

  • Committing to not apologizing for “taking up space” (literally with parking!) and being authentic about saying “no” without justification (58:16, 59:12).

• Advice on Chasing Success Without Losing Peace:

  • 2 Chainz:

    “You have to do it. The only way it can't happen is if you don’t try. ...Align yourself with people that can help bring ideas to fruition.” (40:37–41:16) “I'm a dreamer...my vision exceeds a glass ceiling. ...I want more life, I want more something.” (62:23–62:49)

  • Crystal:

    “If it's for you, you're not going to lose your peace over it. Anything that causes you to lose your peace isn’t something you should be chasing after anyway.” (63:09)

8. Creative Vision & Future Plans

• Audiobook Innovation:

  • Produced his audiobook with immersive scene-setting and sound design, paralleling skits in music albums—bringing something new to the genre (09:33).

• Stage Play Announcement:

  • Reveals plans for a stage play, Something Told Me, based on book chapters:

    “I want to do a play. The name of the play is 'Something Told Me.' ...a real experience for you.” (64:11, 65:31)

  • Shares his vision for Terrence Howard to play his father in the stage production (65:57–66:29).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Intuition & Faith:

  • “When I follow that voice, it ultimately leads me to success.” – 2 Chainz (12:23)

• On Women’s Intuition:

  • “Women are superheroes. ...I feel like women are just in tune to intuition before man.” – 2 Chainz (12:41)

• On Fatherhood & Legacy:

  • “That black boy confidence is a weapon in itself. ...Just making sure that he's a better person than me.” – 2 Chainz, on raising his son Halo (21:15)

• Turning Setbacks into Art:

  • “...The turnaround to get the wheelchairs... within a day or two, man. The turnaround was crazy.” – 2 Chainz (36:39)
  • “I say, oh, disrespect. We about to go get this money.” (38:20)

• Advice for Dreamers:

  • “You have to do it. The only way it can’t happen is if you don’t try.” – 2 Chainz (40:37)

• On Authenticity:

  • “When they say they like me, anybody say they like me, I know they liking a real version of me because I’m not putting that on.” – 2 Chainz (61:46)

• On Wellness as a Performer:

  • “Entertainment is really like another form of sports.” – 2 Chainz (47:16)

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Important Timestamps for Major Segments

• [02:49] – Show intro, guest introduction
• [04:59] – Conversation about the book and intuition begins
• [06:01] – Studio vs. stage as an artist
• [09:33] – Audiobook innovation and staying engaged with content
• [12:27] – The “voice in my head is God” – faith and intuition revealed
• [17:31] – Reflections on mother’s wisdom and learning through experience
• [21:04] – Fatherhood and raising the next generation
• [25:47] – Key moments shaped by listening (or not) to intuition
• [32:16] – 360 record deals and staying independent
• [35:03] – Story of the wheelchair tour—resilience in adversity
• [42:26] – Substance use, health struggles, and sobering up
• [47:08] – The discipline of fitness and on-stage athleticism
• [52:14] – How substances mute the inner voice and intuition
• [53:55] – The eagle metaphor—fatherhood, letting go
• [56:01] – Therapeutic value of art, music, and self-evaluation
• [58:16] – Being unapologetic, setting boundaries
• [59:59] – Entrepreneurship, investments
• [62:20] – Advice: chasing success without losing peace
• [64:11] – Announces stage play plans based on the book
• [66:57] – Wrap-up: the importance of listening to that inner guidance

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Final Reflection

Crystal closes the episode highlighting the central lesson:

“Growth doesn’t always come from the loudest moments in our lives. Sometimes it comes from learning how to be still enough to hear the inner voice guiding us.” (66:57)

Call to Action:
Listeners are encouraged to grab 2 Chainz’s book, trust their own inner voice, and pursue their dreams with faith, discipline, and authenticity.

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Transcript

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[2 Chainz]

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[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

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[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Calling all my sweeties to the forefront, I'm your host, Krista Renee Hazlett, and this is the Keep It Positive Sweetie Show. Welcome to the Keep It Positive Sweetie Show. A place where we heal, grow and learn together. Today's guest is a Grammy winning rapper, songwriter, actor, entrepreneur, television host, and now author with his debut memoir, the Voice in My Head is God. I'm so glad we said him with 2 Chainz. Today's guest is someone whose journey has evolved far beyond music. Known around the world as an artist, entrepreneur, and cultural voice, he's now stepping into a new chapter as an author with his book the Voice in My Head is God. In it, he reflects on faith, intuition, family, and the inner voice that guided him through everything from childhood to success in the music industry. Kiss family. Please give a very warm welcome to 2 Chainz. How you doing?

[2 Chainz]

I'm good. How you doing?

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

I'm good. Happy to have you here.

[2 Chainz]

Thank you for having me.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yes, absolutely. We first met a few years ago at my 40th birthday. I called everybody named Mama. Do you hear me? Cause, you know, it's always like six degrees in Atlanta. It's like two degrees of separation. I was like, okay, you cool with him? Can you ask him? I really tried to get him at my birthday party and we finally closed the deal. And when I tell you to this day, people are saying that's still like the best birthday party they've been to in Atlanta.

[2 Chainz]

Yeah. I ain't know what I was walking into. I didn't know. My friend in the jail. Yeah. Mark, he was like, man, my sister, man. You know, shout out Mark. Yeah. And I showed up and it was just a beautiful crowd. I really didn't know why I was showing up. But I'm glad we did it because I think we built a relationship from that, from that event. You know, I know you was booking me as like, talent.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yeah.

[2 Chainz]

But then I started learning more about you and what you do and so then I became a fan of yours.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

I appreciate that. Yes. It's been love ever since. I appreciate it. Happy to have you here to talk about your new book. The voice in my head is God. When you hit me about it, I said, oh, we gotta have you on the podcast. We have like a. It hasn't been official. We have an unofficial book club, so anything I post that I'm reading, my sweeties will go buy it.

[2 Chainz]

Okay.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

So we're gonna add this to the book club. We're gonna read it, make sure I go get it, and we're gonna talk about it for sure. Super excited to get into that. But before we get into it, we're gonna do a quick game of rapid fire. I want you to tell me the first thing that comes to your mind.

[2 Chainz]

Oh, Lord.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

He's. Oh, Lord.

[2 Chainz]

All right, all right.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Flats or drums?

[2 Chainz]

Flats.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Okay. One thing people always get wrong about you.

[2 Chainz]

People say I look mean. I don't think I'm mean.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

No, you not. Your go to late night snack Almonds. Ooh, healthy. That's a good one. Okay. See, mine is salted caramel ice cream with pecans. First thing you do when you get back home after a long road trip,

[2 Chainz]

you know, hug and kiss the wife. You know, say, what's up to the kids, Take a shower and get in my own bed.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Nothing like your own bed. And shout out to the wife, Keisha, who's in studio with us today. Hey, girl. All right. Do you enjoy the studio or the stage?

[2 Chainz]

Man, that's so hard. I know, but I think I might. That's so hard. That's so hard for me.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yeah.

[2 Chainz]

Like, I've been on stage just going crazy and just loving the energy from the crowd. I don't looked up and thank the Lord, and then I don't been in the studio, and I don't say something so hard that I don't. I don't thank the Lord. So I don't even know.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Well, we'll take both of them equally. What is the most expensive thing that you have bought? That had you looking at the receipt like, all right, that was a little crazy,

[2 Chainz]

probably. You know, homes, cars, home, homes and cars. Yeah, sometimes, you know, sometime it is crazy.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

It is, but it's a blessing. Another thing to say. Yeah, I love that God is good. So looking back at your journey going from College park to now, you are a global success, looking at the little boy in you, what do you think he'd be most surprised at now? If he could look into the future and Say, see where you are now

[2 Chainz]

that I'm still going, that I'm still very much passionate and energetic about, you know, getting up every day and what the day may brings. And still I'm still enjoy learning new stuff. I still enjoy meeting new people. So even though I'm growing and maturing, even age wise, I think internally I'm excited about life. You know what I'm saying?

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Overall, what does a normal day in two chains life look like? You said you're excited to wake up every day. What does that look like?

[2 Chainz]

I don't sleep at night, so I probably go to sleep around maybe like 7 o' clock in the morning. I get up around 12 or 1. I go to the gym at around 2, 2230 because I work out with a, with another person that is like taking a lunch break. So it's like we're trying to get that window in to work out.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Mm.

[2 Chainz]

And then I have a smoothie, then I shower, then I eat, then I pick my son up from school, take him to train and take him, get some, come back, drop him off and then I watch basketball and I might take like an hour nap or something like that because I start working every night around from like 12 to 6. I record, I'm in the studio.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Wow.

[2 Chainz]

And it's very habitual. It's very just like I do that basically every day. I mean, this book tour, this book run has definitely thrown off my gym schedule and thrown off the time that I was using the, you know, make sure I get my son from A to B. But overall, it's been so much good feedback from the book. People showing up.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yeah.

[2 Chainz]

You know, it was my aspiration just to like affect one person. And man, when I tell you it exceeded that expectation.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Wow.

[2 Chainz]

Already it's not even been a week. And how this young lady just boo hoo, cried and in my arms in Dallas last night, like boohoo. Like, and how the book helped her and how she reads it at 7 in the morning and she plays the audiobook. Why she reading? I'm like, I've never, you know, did it like that. But audiobook, it's in my voice, so.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Oh, dope.

[2 Chainz]

Yeah, it's in my voice. And it's like something that is new and innovative that you know, and I don't know anybody that has production in their audiobooks. Like my audiobook. You can actually hear the scene that I'm describing that I'm reading. Yeah, yeah. So it's like that I just brought something different. It's like, man, I still took elements from the. You know, me being, you know, an artist, a musician, and, you know, you see. You hear albums and they have skits and stuff in it. So when you reading a book that sounds like it could be a skit, why not have the. Anyway, so I know y' all gonna take that. You can have it. This is what I do. I come in the game, I leave something behind, and y' all try to act like I ain't do it, but.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Right. We heard it here first. Yeah. I've never heard of that, but I do. I read books and listen to audio. Cause sometimes I don't want to put this on, but I may have a little add.

[2 Chainz]

Yeah, I hear that a lot. What they do to us. Like, why does everybody say that? I hear this. I hear this every day. I hear. I got ad. I hear this every day more than I hear somebody saying, excuse me and thank you. I hear like, man, I got a little bit of.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

A little bit of.

[2 Chainz]

Somebody just can't lock in sometimes.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yes.

[2 Chainz]

So you do the same thing. You do audio. And this is my first time I

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

do that with my Bible. Like, when I'm reading. The Bible. Yeah. I listen to it on the Bible app where it's reading and I'm reading along with it, but it helps me stay locked in.

[2 Chainz]

I can see it there, too. Because I think sometimes. So I. Even recently, sometimes I just. I might just take the Bible. It's. Look, I'm sure I'm not the only one to do this and just open it up and act like God reads something from here. Right. But if it's, like, hard, like some words, that's like, before the language is what I'm saying. Sometimes I feel you. Yeah. So I think that. That way. And I do know they have other literature that breaks down stuff in layman terms a lot too.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Right. Yeah. And that's what I need. Yeah. But no, I love that. So I understand why she does that. I think that's dope that she listens and reads it like she's really getting it. I gotta listen to that. Because I love how you added the elements of production into it.

[2 Chainz]

So hard. It's so hard.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Wow.

[2 Chainz]

I'm about to take this to another level, man. I just feel like this is real New York Times bestseller.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

It will be.

[2 Chainz]

The voice in my head is God. It's something that I actually struggle with really even talking about, because I'm not. I mean, I'm sure when I trace it back to it, it gotta be intuition before then. I'm thinking I just got a voice in my. I'm really just think. Because I'm really hearing something that's telling me to go this way or put that on or walk over there. And like, it's been navigating me a lot. And when I follow that voice, it leads me. Ultimately leads me to success.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yeah.

[2 Chainz]

So I started talking to people about, like, this voice. And then it's like it's subconscious. Then it started going back to, like. It's really something that we all have, which is intuition is about when you. Like when you find it, when you become tapped in.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yeah.

[2 Chainz]

And with the chapter I got in there called Women of Superheroes. And my. And my book is solely opinion based. Right. I didn't research y'. All. You know, like, reading my book is like purely my beliefs.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yes. And your experiences.

[2 Chainz]

I do believe women are superheroes. So I just like the things my wife know before had my mom. And they do it unconsciously. But like, I feel like women are just in tune to intuition before man. They mature before man anyway, so.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yeah.

[2 Chainz]

Yeah.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

No, that's crazy. When you look back at your younger self in your voice in your book. The voice in my head is God, which is. I love the title. You talk about how the voice in your head is guidance that everyone has access to if you just slow down long enough to hear it. How young were you when you realize, wait a minute, this is God talking to me?

[2 Chainz]

So I don't put God. I don't put God to it too. Super recently. So what happened with the book is I wanted to write a book about something, not just an autobiography. And I wanted it to have some type of substance. And I also wanted. Wanted it to tap into an audience outside of hip hop. So me having the concept like intuition, I'm telling some stories. And when I tell the story and I trace it all the way back, it's a voice that told me, boy, you ain't got no business going. It told me before I got there or it told me to do. So a lot of the stuff I thought about was either like, whether it was a trauma or even a celebration. I trace it back in my mind and it. And it literally. And so then I started. Then you start hearing you made in the image of God and God is in you. All this stuff. And then another thing that I felt like was super relatable to people is like how we say, no, man, something told me I was gonna run into something or you feel somebody, you ain't, you know, I just feel like what if that is, like, whatever you believe in, obviously. But what if that's God, like, in you, like, whispering or whatever? Just saying, like, man, you know, this ain't. It's time to go. It don't mean somebody finna shoot the place up, but sometimes it is time to go or something like that. I'm like, somebody that just abruptly, like. I'm like, my team just be like, what you going? What are we doing? You know, I just get up.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yep. Out of here. Yeah.

[2 Chainz]

And when I don't do it.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Let's talk about that, bro.

[2 Chainz]

I say, man, I knew I should have left, bro. It just. It happened to me not too long ago. I thought I was gonna miss something, so I'm sticking around.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yeah.

[2 Chainz]

Before I knew it, they don't turn the lights on at a part. I don't like that kind of part, where the lights and everybody's sitting around looking crazy.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yeah.

[2 Chainz]

Then you know. You know, then they. They saying, we gonna start the party back. The whole time, I said, man, I should have been left this morning. You know what I mean? So that's something about a club. I'm just saying, in general and in life.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yeah. No, for sure. I definitely can attest to times where I should have maybe left somebody alone.

[2 Chainz]

Oh, man. Women. That why I say y' all be knowing.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

We be knowing.

[2 Chainz]

Yeah, y' all be knowing. Y' all just do it. Like, y'. All. Y'. All. The. The. I gotta. I got a chapter called the Voice that.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yes.

[2 Chainz]

That women do a lot, too. Like, we do, too. The women do that, too. But we had that voice, too. Like, sometime. And when we do something out of the Voice, it don't mean that it's always gonna be a bad outcome.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Right.

[2 Chainz]

Yeah.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Some things could be just, like. Cause we do it off of, like, just impulse. Like, I want to do this. I'm gonna do it. Like, just go for it.

[2 Chainz]

The voice. Deal with, like, the. The very. The human part of you. The part that. So I say God is love. God equals love. So they. If you want to differentiate, like, the voice is like. If it got something to do with, like, love in it, this may be him whispering to you.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yeah.

[2 Chainz]

But if it got to do what you like, crashing out, going to his house, busting his windows out and all that stuff. And, like, you like something. I read your book Change. Something told me, go over there. I done went over there. I done caught it. Whatever. I done.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

You like, I didn't tell you to do that.

[2 Chainz]

I don't think home. I don't think. I don't think he told you to do that one. Yeah. You know, but we all got that voice. And we all got to live off experience, too. This book is very much experience based. It's not like a religious book. It's me talking about God through, like, my experience, my journey.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yeah. No, and you talk about your mother, you know, your grandmother, your wife being superheroes. What was it? Something that you may have not understood as a child, but now as a adult, man, you understand about your grandmother, your mother, when you were growing up,

[2 Chainz]

man, you know, your mom always gonna tell you who she feel like is right. The right crowds and right places and stuff for you to be around. Then, you know, we always gotta find out on our own. I mean, we all. Yeah. Mama tell you, you. When they hit the. You sure. And they just like. And you like. Yeah, I got it, you know, thinking, you know, so much, it comes back.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yeah.

[2 Chainz]

But I wouldn't change. I wouldn't change a lot of the mistakes I made because, like, they gotta happen, too. The book ain't about, like, living a perfect life. It's just about taking the time and connecting with that. That divine guidance, that internal navigation. You know what I mean? It's not about, like, never making mistakes. Right.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

For sure. Listen, I always say that every mistake I made has made me the woman I am today, you know, because you learn from it. It's a lesson. Yeah. And I feel like it makes some of the best people, you know, because we can also help other people before they have to fall down that same path.

[2 Chainz]

Sure.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yeah. Now, you talk about your dad being incarcerated and always telling you a woman can't raise a man. You touch on that in the book? Yeah, let's talk about that.

[2 Chainz]

Just raised by an old school kind of man's man, you know, was in the army, used to do airborne, jump out of planes.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Oh, wow.

[2 Chainz]

Yeah, that was his thing. And did a little prison time, so he was like a man's man. So, like I tell people I'm kind of from the Boys Don't Cry era. Like, you gotta be like, whatever it is, it's just like, you just can't cry about it. But the part is, like, when he passed, I literally needed, like, windshield wipers on my eye. I cried so much, I was like. I was bawling.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yeah, I saw where you said the reservoir had dried up. But then when your father passed.

[2 Chainz]

Yeah. I used to be like, man. I mean, I used to tell my home, man, I'm dehydrated, boy, I can't crap. Why? Well, you know what I mean? And what it is, you become numb, become so tough that whatever hurt you just kind of. You kind of like. You know what I mean? You just kind of like. To my breaking bones and everything, you just kind of. Ah, you just. So you know, he just one of them and it just sticks with you. But he was. But somebody, you know, as a father, you admire him and then you hear these stories and these tales about him and, you know, you know what I'm saying? You got that DNA inside of you and, you know, I don't know, it's like he was a superhero to me too, you know, and he stayed with me the last maybe seven years of his life and we just built a real great bond and he ultimately passed right in front of me at the hospital. And it's something I think about all the time. Often, you know?

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yeah.

[2 Chainz]

But I still. Sometimes I maybe hear him. Who knows? Maybe it's him talking to me.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yeah.

[2 Chainz]

But I feel him. And then my son has a lot of. I don't know, they just have a lot in common, like, and they.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

You see a lot of your daddy.

[2 Chainz]

You see a lot of. Yeah, I do. So.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yeah.

[2 Chainz]

That's why I tell everybody, like, Halo, my best friend. Man, you remind me so much of

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

my pops, you know, I love that. How did your relationship with your dad shape how you are with Halo now? Especially those last seven years spending with your father?

[2 Chainz]

Well, it makes me want to not like, skip any time with Halo, you know what I mean? Yeah, I can't imagine skipping 12, 13 years or something like that.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yeah.

[2 Chainz]

But it just makes me want to be. Just be there for him and give them some kind of game and some pointers on navigating life. Make sure I'm. I'm instilling confidence in them. Like, you know, that black boy, confidence is a. It's a weapon in itself. You know what I mean? So just teach them how to use that weapon when you confident in the room and you just making people uncomfortable as a 10 year old or whatever it is, you know, just. Just making sure that he's a better person than me, you know what I'm saying? Just like dedicate my life to making sure he's 10 times better than me.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yeah, no, I love that I ran into y' all in the parking lot. You go to your. A season ticket holder at the Hog. So I always admire you when you're with your wife or your daughters courtside and your son, I'm like, that is dop. Like my dad took me to McDonald's for breakfast. That was our daddy daughter time. I'm like, I'm trying to think.

[2 Chainz]

That was good. At least you remember. I'm trying to think. Okay. My daddy let me think. Cause he. I ain't even talking about, like he wasn't nothing. Yeah. I'm trying to think what he took me. That was like our thing. Yeah. Maybe it hit me before, so. But I think it's important that you create them experiences. Yeah. Like even a McDonald thing is something like, is an experience every morning after he.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Because he worked nights. And then he would come pick me up to take me to school, get

[2 Chainz]

some biscuits or something like that. Because I remember, I remember my grand, My granddad used to get the biscuit. I'm trying to think what me and my pops did as a kid. I can't remember right now, but you

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

know, but I love what you do with your kids. Like, that's. It's so dope. And that daddy daughter time, that father son time is so important.

[2 Chainz]

Yeah.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yeah, man. Like I said, it definitely shaped the relationship. Like I still call my dad to this day. Like, day, what you doing? You know, like, that's just like, that's one of my best friends.

[2 Chainz]

So. Did you ever have. Because I have two teenage daughters. Uh huh. Was it ever a time that you were not like this with your dad? Was it ever like.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

No.

[2 Chainz]

You always been.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yeah. I feel like when I was in college, I may have. I had a little wild phase where I was just kind of like, I don't want to talk to nobody. Like I want to do my thing. But as I got older and then just realizing that time is fleeting and you kind of look up when they're like, wait, like, I may not have them here that much longer.

[2 Chainz]

You old?

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yeah.

[2 Chainz]

You be like now. The funny part is when you get the age that you remember your parents was at and you be like, I used to think they was old.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yeah.

[2 Chainz]

Cause I remember my dad, man, he used to. Man, my dad was like, he would get out. Cause my dad was like in the trapping and all this hustling and buying work and selling work. I'll be riding with him, man. He had these cut off Jordache jean shorts and damn near no shirt on. And when he get out that car, I used to do like, I used to get low like this because I, I didn't even want nobody to see, man. Like, man, why don't you put up, put something close. What are you doing, bro? That man used to be out There. Hey. Hollering at somebody across the street. You like, man, man, put some, put a shirt on anything. But yeah, yeah, it. We gotta, you know, I got two teenage girls and they, they really like one is on the way to college and you know, basically I don't know any. Know that much.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yeah.

[2 Chainz]

And I can't be that cool. I'm only like 2 chain. And by the way, like, wait, so you're. You're only two chains?

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Only two chains.

[2 Chainz]

Yeah, probably. Probably on that. Probably don't even like, don't mention that, dad. Don't nobody even need to know that.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Wow.

[2 Chainz]

And then I got my 13 year old who is into like drip. So that's a way we do connect.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yeah. That child's bond.

[2 Chainz]

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But it could be times when, you know, I don't know what the heck I'm talking about either, which is insane.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yeah. I think that's every parent child situation at some point. And like I said that college time, that's the time where they're trying to figure themselves out. And man, it's. It's a lot. It's a lot. Yeah. But you'll be fine. I promise you. It'll be over before you know it and then y' all be back. Besties.

[2 Chainz]

Okay?

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yeah, for sure.

[2 Chainz]

I hope so.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

No, for sure. I hope so. I love that. Let's talk about that intuition. And can you. Can you share with us a time where you heard that voice and it completely changed the trajectory because you listened. It changed the trajectory of your life just from taking heed to it and then share a time where you look back and you're like, I should have listened. And what happened in that moment, a

[2 Chainz]

time where I listened to my voice is when I got out, like my first record deal. I just, you know, I ain't know I was going make I'm different or birthday. I didn't have these songs recorded. I didn't have anything. I just knew I wanted to be an independent. I wanted to be on my own. You know, it wasn't so much I was leaving the situation to get back in another situation.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Right.

[2 Chainz]

But I thought I had built enough relationships and learned enough information to try to do it on my own. And just woke up one day and it wasn't like, it was gradual. Like I kept threatening to like, ah, you keep playing or you know, it was none of that. I just woke up one day and I said, you know, I just effort. I. I didn't say it like this, but basically like A voice told me, like, I, I need to be out here doing this. Yeah. You know, and then a time where the time. I didn't listen, man, I've been. I didn't, I didn't. Got smacked for it a couple times for not listening to that voice. Been in the wrong places at the wrong time when I. Obviously. But you know, it, you know, you know, you know, you just don't. It's hard to. When you can't see things, it's hard to believe something you can't see anyway. So it's hard to believe that running the red light can cause an accident until you can run a bunch of them. Until you know, you cause, you cause and. But you can't see that before it happens.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Right.

[2 Chainz]

You know, so that might be a poor example, but that's basically what I mean about like, you. You gotta like navigate off trusting yourself first. Like, yeah, that's. This is how I navigate. I do have like some of the. Talk to a manager and all of that. I start with me first.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Exactly. No, for sure.

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[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Talking about obstacles and being optimistic. You are a very optimistic person and talking about your Getting out of a record deal and you deciding that you didn't want any more360. Can you explain to the people listening what a 360 deal is in the music industry and why you didn't want to sign that?

[2 Chainz]

At the time? It was very new. 360s are very prevalent right now. At the time, I had so much leverage that I think some, you know, the labels was just trying to get me on the roster at this time. But a 360 deal was created, I don't know, maybe 15 years ago is for. Basically for artists that make a stream of income outside of. It may have to do with music, but say, for instance, like, you get paid for, like, a Pepsi commercial. The label gets a percentage of that. Now, what happened, what used to happen is. And I understand both ways, really. Right when I think about our art, a label give you some money, put you on, you shoot a video, somebody says, I like this guy, and they give you a million dollars and label like, bro, you wouldn't even know this person being shooting. So then labels figured out a way to get paid off of artists generating, like, sponsorships and stuff like that. This was on my. My first deal. I just had, like. I don't know. I just had a deal that you only can really do when you have left. You just can't go in. Nobody. This is like, how. Yeah, right now, if I had to do a deal, I'm independent right now. But if I went back and got a deal with a major, I'm positive that'd be like, this is how it goes.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yeah, we need that. Yeah. I mean, if I was signing you, I'd be like, yeah, I'm gonna need a three.

[2 Chainz]

Cause, you know, I'm gonna go get a bag somewhere else. You looking at? You looking at. You know, I'm. You know, I'm gonna. You gonna be like, no, boy, you finna do something. I know you. But.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Exactly.

[2 Chainz]

I still might use the leverage of. But I'm already this. I might still.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yeah, yeah.

[2 Chainz]

I might pick and choose. I might have to figure it out. If I had to really negotiate that, like, I am not like a newbie. That if you put me on MTV Awards, then my phone been ringing for a couple decades.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

It has. Let's talk about this too. Like, how you stay so relevant. People don't last decades in this industry. And you have found a way to stay relevant. Time after time, people are still calling you. I'm seeing you. You do so many different things.

[2 Chainz]

Yeah.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

What is the secret sauce to doing that?

[2 Chainz]

Listening to the voice in my head, that was good. You set it up.

[Advertiser/Announcer]

You didn't even know, you know what I'm saying?

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Look, it's so good. I love that. So you did a 50 city tour or 50 state tour independently in a wheelchair. Oh, yeah, that was crazy. Let's talk about that. Because most people that you said that voice in your head, people were telling you, cancel it, don't do it. Like, this is another moment where you listen to the voice in your head and I want to know, at that point in time, you were turning down deals you like, nope, I'm gonna do this on my own.

[2 Chainz]

It was really like. It was either the voice in my head or the morphine they give you in the hospital.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

You might be crazy.

[2 Chainz]

They give you that little button. You press that button, right, they say you be talking crazy. I, I done broke my leg on Sunday till start Wednesday these folks all by my bed but what we gonna do? What we gonna do? I hit the button on go to sleep again. And man, I don't know. I don't know if it was a morphine dream or God telling me, right? But I already got the concept like this, like with the book. This is about intuition. So my album called Pretty Girls like trap music. So I done got this whole concept of like, trying to make the trap, like a positive connotation. So I got like a pink trap house. I got like pretty everything. I'm just trying to, like, put both worlds together.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yeah.

[2 Chainz]

So something told me. Something told me. That's what I'm saying. It got to be to me. He said, man, say, why don't you just get to pink wheelchair and get the nurses to be like background dancers? And I always. Chris, man, I always get like five ideas, bro. I got a chapter called Ideas Occurrence. I feel like that's. That's like some people, people with no ideas. I'm like, I'm sorry. I like, man, it's gotta be hard. It's gotta be hard, man. I came up with this idea and man, within a. They are two, man. The turnaround was crazy.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Wow.

[2 Chainz]

The turnaround to get the wheelchairs, man, put this wheelchair together where you keep. Because I had to keep the leg elevated and they got like rims on it. And management found like these dances and they got these little nurse costumes. And I don't have nothing to do with the choreography. They just giving them the songs I'm gonna do on tour. Yeah. So I literally meet these dancers that end up touring with me the night of the show. Like, I'M you know, the one that's gonna push me around. Yeah, we ain't did it together. Yeah, we ain't did none of that. I'm on. All I could do is kind of sit in the front and Right. You know, use a lot of upper right.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Hold on. But you had an arm, too. One of your arms was messed up.

[2 Chainz]

Well, well, well, listen. My arm. When I broke my arm the same night. But they put it back in place the same night.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Because it was dislocated.

[2 Chainz]

Yeah, it was dislocated. But I go out, I do half the show. You know what I'm saying? I'm making this. You know, all this really, like, moving a lot.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yeah.

[2 Chainz]

And it kind of, like, made the show go by smooth. Cause you not move. You know what I'm saying? Moving back and forth. So sometimes the girl will move me, move me. Stop. They do whatever they do. Move me, move me.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

That's fire.

[2 Chainz]

And then I. Cause I got the pink trap house on stage. I got nurse. So in my mind, I'm like. I'm so creative. The fans might think this part of the show, right? So I. I stopped the show. I go, yeah. You know, they clapping. I say, man, yeah, man, I broke my leg on Sunday, y'. All. And I still wanted to be here and perform for y'. All. And, man, I hope I ain't let y' all down, but I really. Right now, I can't even walk, y'. All. Yeah, man. Them folks go

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

crazy. Yeah.

[2 Chainz]

I say, oh, disrespect. We about to go get this money. I'm like, oh, they gone.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

This.

[2 Chainz]

It was. It was like a. I believe in you. Know what I'm saying? Being optimistic. I feel like, man, how you turn this around? I'm to my. I'm so. Man, I'm so mad at myself. And just. Man, it was just a fluke accident. Fell off this four wheeler.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

But, like, man, that you probably ridden a million times, like, a hundred times.

[2 Chainz]

I already know, man. I'm just like. And it just happened. And so then you look at, like, this a sign from God telling me, sit down from tour. I said, no, man, let me get this money. And then the guy that made the wheelchair for me before the tour over, man, the man pass away. I never even meet him.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Are you serious, man?

[2 Chainz]

I'm like, this gotta be an angel, man. Yeah, he like. They tell me he died from a motorcycle accident. So I'm like, I be in my head, like, So I couldn't even put a face with the person who did it? Cause I never met the person. So, like, I couldn't even, like, I was. Couldn't even, like, really, like, even really get sad about it. Cause I'm like, man, did God just send somebody to do this in a short period of time? Mm.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Mm. That's how he works. That's crazy. Cause so many people in that situation would've definitely been like, cancel it. I can't.

[2 Chainz]

Take me home. Yeah, just take me home. I. You know, come back and we see it happen on. People cancel their tours all the time.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

All the time. And don't have a broken leg.

[2 Chainz]

I think when they said, like, we probably had to get a 11 million back, I think I just was like, hell, we ain't we going to work. I think that's what it was. I think no matter what the voice was telling me, that mother wasn't gonna get nobody no 11 million. It was something like that. I heard we had to get his 11 million. I'm like, to who? Boy, we finna pull up on these folks. Hello. We went to dance in this chair all tour, and that's what we did, man.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Oh, my goodness. Yeah, that's. I love that story. I really do. So many people chase the success or hope. You're saying, just wish they could get to where you are now. If there's somebody out there that's watching this right now and what you just explained is discipline. It's fortitude. It's just doing it no matter what the circumstances. What would you tell them? Any type of advice to get. To try to get to where you are if they want to succeed in this industry.

[2 Chainz]

You have to do it, though.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yeah, you gotta do it. That's good. You gotta do it.

[2 Chainz]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The only way it can't happen if. Is if. If you don't try. So you just.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

I always say that you got it.

[2 Chainz]

And, you know, it's easier said than done. I know it's like, so cliche to be like. But really, you have to try. Yeah, you have to try. And some people that do have ideas, it's important that you align yourself with. With people that can help you bring those ideas to fruition. Because most people that have ideas don't know what to do with it.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Right.

[2 Chainz]

Y. I. I get that too. But, like, I found, like, people around me that I can actually funnel some of this stuff too, and kind of bring them to light the pink. The pink light that sometimes that would be somebody's idea, and they just don't know how to even. Who. Contact who and I'm just. I'm fortunate enough to have a team that's like, I don't like right now. If I need a dancer tonight, I don't even know who to, much less some that's gonna customize some nurse outfits and be on point when these songs drop. Like, this is. So it's bigger than. It's bigger than just you.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Absolutely, yeah. Team is everything. I'm with you on that. That's good. Now, you have been very open about your struggles with lean abuse. Talked about how you still can't eat any citruses, like lemons, oranges, all the things. How did you get to that? Was it something that you were dealing with? You know how sometimes we, as artists, a lot of times even successful people, we lean on certain things to suppress whatever we may be feeling. Was it something that you were trying to suppress at first so you become numb to something, or did it. Was it just like society, you know? Cause sometimes it's like everybody doing it. It's a part of the culture, you know?

[2 Chainz]

No, I think my stomach was. When I'm thinking about it now, I think my stomach was messed up before I started drinking it. Drinking stuff. I ain't gonna lie. Used to make it feel better.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Really?

[2 Chainz]

Yes, bro. I. I got a. I got a endo. Whatever they call it when they. They put a camera in your stomach. And, man, I would just go days where I would just be feeling nauseous. And I never forget, they had. They had this drug. It was called, like, Nexium. It was like a sample drug.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

I've heard about that.

[2 Chainz]

Yeah, yeah. It was like a delay. And they keep giving me that, like, these little samples. I never. I never took them. And they do the. They do the. Until one day I took one. I felt good the whole day, you know what I mean? And so then the doctor pushed this. I never forget. I never forget. He looked like Obama, bro.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

The doctor did.

[2 Chainz]

Doctor did, bro. And I. The last thing I remember when he put this thing in my stomach is me saying, bro, you look like Obama. And then I just went to sleep, and I woke up, and they had pictures of my stomach, and I had ulcers and acid reflux together. And so I had been drinking a little lean. But after I get that picture of, like, this stuff in my stomach and everything, they telling me that the prescription is promethazine, and. But they have to give it to me in a capsule because people are taking advantage of the syrup kind. So I heard that, and then I leave. I call all my friends like, bro. Cause when you get this. So with the lean and everything, people don't know it really coming from, like a source, like a pharmacy. It's not like somebody's making it in a tub. It's just people abuse about putting a lot into a drink, changing the color, and then making it so. But it's really like a medicine. It's for something. It's for something. So it's for nausea and some more. That's what it's really for. I don't know this. I'm just. When I drink it, I just. I keep telling people, this is no bull. This is no bull. I used to tell my road manager, I feel like I'm 18 again. I would drink it, go on stage, jump up and down. Cause, you know, like, I'm flying all. You know, early on, I'm so busy. I'm flying. I'm doing two, maybe two flights a day to go here, here, here. And I'm eating something that I'm not used to. My stomach just been super weak. So then, like, I feel nauseous again. Like, boom. So I need something now. I like, keep some zofran somewhere. You know, my mama gonna keep some zofran for me if I need it or something like that. But my stomach just been, like, something. And it's probably, you know, why I eat so healthy. But, you know, early on, I was told I couldn't. I don't drink no orange juice. Yeah, I don't. Something that's kind of like. I don't know if you would call pineapples. Now I can eat. I eat pineapple. I drink pineapple juice. But, like, lemonade.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

None of that, man.

[2 Chainz]

I tried super acidic chick fil a lemonade about mouth ten years ago, man. I felt like somebody just. It felt like I hit a front was flip, man. My stomach was so stuff like that I can't eat, and then I have to sleep on, like, two pillars. Like, can't just be laying flat. You know what I mean? So I have to keep my head elevated. But I don't. I hadn't had, like, a stomach, like, relapse enough in a long time. And I've been stopped drinking. Like, I stopped drinking the sir stuff. I think that stuck. I think the syrup was giving me like a. It was giving me, like, a little attitude sometime.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Really?

[2 Chainz]

Yeah. It had me like a little growling type thing sometimes.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Would you recognize it or did somebody else say, hey, you?

[2 Chainz]

People would tell me, but I think I'd just be irritated.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

That's right. I thought you was beat.

[2 Chainz]

Yeah. What you want now? Come on, hurry up, take the picture. But I hadn't done nothing like that in a while. I still self medicate with the little things I do. But ultimately, man, I'm not even a really big drinker. For real. I drink. I've been on my wine stuff.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yeah.

[2 Chainz]

I try a little wine, I take a shot of tequila, but then I'd be kind of like. I be. I'd be like, straight.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yeah. Chilling.

[2 Chainz]

Yeah, we had enough. I haven't had enough. So, you know. Yeah, it was. It was definitely a trend, but it's something. I put the cup down many, many years.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yeah, no, I love that. And I'm glad you got ahead of it, because a lot of times people don't get to see that side of it. So that's good.

[2 Chainz]

Yeah.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

You said you healthy diet, all the things, how important you work out, how important is maintaining that wellness a part of your life to do what you do at the level you do it at.

[2 Chainz]

I feel like entertainment is a. What we do is really like another form of sports.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

I be telling people that all the time because I was a competition cheerleader. And a lot of the same structure and the discipline that I use in sports, I use it now.

[2 Chainz]

Yeah, it's like sports, bro. You can't just not give a damn about what you putting and think. You finna go on stage and perform for an hour and you'd be seeing people pass out and all. Like, I do a show for an hour, I don't even drink water. I don't even like for the fan to even think I'm like them anywhere near like a human. Like them. Like, I'm up there for an hour, they're not sweating, really. Keeping myself and saying, I'm in great shape. What else? You guys ain't up there. All right, what else, guys, you mean, you know, trying to hold body moving, talking to the crowd, you just. So I ain't on that.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Right.

[2 Chainz]

So I take it very seriously about, like, how I condition myself, because I feel like it's a mama. Be up all night, I'm gonna record. I gotta be able to, like. I mean, you know, I. Man, I do. I. I might sound crazy. I stretch and everything.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

That's not crazy, especially. We have to. Yeah, that's important.

[2 Chainz]

Mobility, I'm gonna say. Especially, yeah, we. I'm. We in our 40s. I'm stretching before I go up. Man.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

That's good.

[2 Chainz]

I tell somebody, look, man, how long the stage is? All right, let me. You know what I'm saying cause I ain't gonna sit in one spot.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yes.

[2 Chainz]

You know what I mean? And ain't no telling what I might do once I get up there. That's where I get the Holy Ghost. So you want to be like you

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

gotta be ready, ain't it?

[2 Chainz]

Wanna be ready? Man, you so silly. I love

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melty bite of a Hershey's bar and suddenly I'm right back, sitting on the front porch with my grandmother on a slow summer afternoon. She doesn't say much, just breaks the bar in half and hands me a piece. I open my mouth to say whatever a 9 year old wants to say, and she replies with a low sh.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

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[Karissa Thompson (Breast Health Advocate)]

It's your happy place.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

You talk about in your book how substances can also mute your inner voice. Let's talk about that. Because a lot of times people feel like I'm in control. I got it. I know what I'm doing. But what is that? Muting. How do you know, like, when that's coming in?

[2 Chainz]

Anytime when fear show up, you're gonna be just straight off you. When fear, ego. Oh, that's you. Oh, that's you. But sometimes you gotta have it.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yeah.

[2 Chainz]

In our. In our field of work, I think sometimes not to say that you should just be on set like, you know, a diva or be on stage like a div. But I think a little piece of ego. Not bad. The fear stuff. Fear stuff. Trust issues is another part of, like the field we in. You kind of gotta be scared. These folks will do all. Especially men. Especially the men. It's like I have mastered my little side hug. Yep. All that. It's just like, you know, so.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yeah.

[2 Chainz]

You know, sometimes ain't no voice. And when you get to just being in your head so much about this, you just really going off your own. And that's not. It's not. That's normal, too. It's normal to. Fear is a real emotion.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

No, for sure. One of the most moving parts that I loved about your book was your father and the eagle metaphor and being a father and letting your child fly. We talked about your daughter. You're about to let her fly. Going to college. But how do you use that metaphor with your children? Now?

[2 Chainz]

It was very interesting. I read that. First of all, that letter was, like, from 2003.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Really?

[2 Chainz]

Yeah. When I was working on the book, it's like it opened up a portal where I was just finding stuff that was like, I can add this to the book. But I went back, and it was these letters from 2003. My father's birthday is on Christmas, so this was around Thanksgiving. It was just all. It was like all these letters from, like, the end of 2003. I'm talking about football. And he started putting these analogies in here, and he telling me, you know, I tell you what, you know, you can call me this. Like, it was just like, first of all, he's so sarcastic. I don't know if he's serious or not. I'm like, man, I don't. You talking about. Yeah, we the Eagles, man. You know, we sore. I'm Bill Eagle. And then he's telling me, like, you're this. You know what? Matter of fact, you can call me Bill. And I'm like, what? But, you know, 2003, it was, you know, over, you know, 20 years ago. So I was at a different place mentally and everything. I'm way more mature and growing. And even looking at his letters and seeing God is love on the back.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yeah.

[2 Chainz]

Of the envelope. I used to just rip them and get to the letter. I ain't even paying attention to the goddess love that's written on the outside. But then I thought about what that meant, and it was just right in my face the whole time. It was just saying, like, God is like, love. Like, it was like, what is God? It's like. It's like love. Like, oh. And then like, oh, yeah, yeah, God. Cause he ain't gonna mess with no hate stuff. Like. But, yeah. So that's my personal opinion. So that's what I thought it meant. And it took me this long and some old letters to find to put that together to really hit it, like, yeah. Because other than that, it just sound like a phrase. God is love. God is. God is dope. Shout out my homeboy, too. Like, God is this. Oh, no. So that's what I took from him.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

I love that. So another thing I wanted to ask you about is you're saying, like, you were going through these Letters. You're finding all these things and it's been there the whole time. You also talk about at the end, people say, I might need. He might need therapy after writing the book. You said it was therapeutic for you.

[2 Chainz]

Yes, my first therapist. Man, this book.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yes. Now, are you open to therapy?

[2 Chainz]

It can't be that, because music is very therapeutic. And then I did a short film called Red Clay. So this might be my third therapist.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Okay, gotcha.

[2 Chainz]

Let me refrain. This is my. Let me rephrase it. This is my third therapist. Music was my first. It just. And then I did a short film called Red Clay that was. Just took a lot. And then this book is my third therapist. And they all different people.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

They are. They are.

[2 Chainz]

It's not like my third time going to therapy. This is my third therapist.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Right. That's fire. I love that. Are you open to therapy? Do you feel like you're good?

[2 Chainz]

I've been going back and forth. I don't. I don't know. I'm still like old fashioned. Don't want nobody to take my little edge off. I wanna be the crazy old man still. You know, everybody got them in the family, you know what I'm saying? You need that energy, bro.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Somebody gotta do it.

[2 Chainz]

In my mind. And I know this probably sounds crazy. I hope the therapist really helps me. DM me and be like, it's not like. But in my mind, I feel like I'm gonna come out of therapy and I'll be like, it's okay. You got it. It's okay. No, you know what? Life is beautiful. Like, God is good. God is love. Y' all just keep. No, no, brother, brother, sister. But I don't wanna. I be wanting a little edge on me. Just a little bit.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Just a little bit.

[2 Chainz]

Yeah. And I just don't want them to be like, we're gonna fix this. The reason you have this and what. I. I do have a psychology degree. Right. So.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Okay.

[2 Chainz]

I do. Or I have identified some of my triggers really personally.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Okay.

[2 Chainz]

Through self evaluation.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

That's good.

[2 Chainz]

I could tell when something like. You know what I mean? And it could be some small stuff, but I could tell like if it's done, if it's happened to me more than once, I'm like, this. This kind of triggers me.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yeah.

[2 Chainz]

I mean, and I. I can identify with some of them and I'm trying to work on that. That's good. Yeah, that's good.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Because some people can't even identify.

[2 Chainz]

Yeah. Yeah. You got to know what make you turn up and raise you like, you got to know.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yeah, you got to know. And you also. You got to know yourself. You say that. So this season for Kpop, sweetie, our theme is unapologetic. What is 2 Chainz being apologetic about right now in this season?

[2 Chainz]

Apologetic.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Unapologetic.

[2 Chainz]

Unapologetic. Unapologetic. I'm not. I'm unapologetic about. I'm not apologizing for that parking spot where I park for the Hawks. Sometime. I be taking up a couple spots.

[Narrator/Advertiser]

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[2 Chainz]

I'm not apologizing for that, period. I'm parking right when you be seeing me right there. I don't know why they hit me, but I know you can relate. Cause you see me, and sometimes I back in there, and they. I've changed. And I. Man, y', all, whoever coming, they gonna be out of luck. So I'm not apologizing for that. I'm a real Atlanta native. I'm a fan, and I literally have to pay for my tickets. Yes, y'. All. So I'm not apologizing for that. I'm not apologizing for saying no. Yeah, man. You know, you'd be like, man, I'm sorry, man, but I can't do it.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

I'm not sorry, man.

[2 Chainz]

I just ain't gonna do it. Like, that's. That's what. And I. And I ain't gonna say, like, I'm working on this. Yeah. I'm working on saying no without apologizing or giving context on why I can't do it. Because I found myself explaining, man, I gotta do, man, I. You know, I got to do all that when I'm like, so that's real. Yeah.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

I love that. Speaking of Hawk tickets, you are also a big investor. You have. I just saw something where you invested in SpaceX, you have ownership, and is it the Skyhawks G League? What made you, like, want to start investing in these different things? Because I was like, wow, I had no idea.

[2 Chainz]

Yeah.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

You are a myth. There's so many different things that we don't know about you.

[2 Chainz]

Yeah. Coming from hustling. That's what. That's what hustling, traveling is. You invest, you buy this pack, you make more off of it. You put this to the side. You buy, you make more. It sounds like people, just a lot of people only get caught up with, like, what it's doing to the community, which I definitely understand as a hustler is really an extension of a business, man. You meet somebody, you create a relationship with them. You have clientele, audience, fans, whatever. You want to call it direct to consumer. Been doing that. You know, been doing direct to consumer. Then you got to have, you know, you. You got to go out, you got to meet people, you got to develop, you know, that trust thing. And, you know, and now when I grow up, I'm not. I can't. I don't want to buy a pack or something and sell it. Now I'm going buying, investing in properties and things like that, and then also being in the right rooms and, I don't know, maybe getting the trust of people who. Who are looking to invest in, you know, I believe. I believe, man, it's trillions of dollars out there. It's just that junk just is looking for somebody that is looking for people. You know what I mean? And being in the house, it ain't gonna find you. So for me, I'm in them rooms now. I'm not just hopping from, you know, brunch to brunch, but I'm in them right rooms.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yeah.

[2 Chainz]

And I'm. And I'm me.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yeah.

[2 Chainz]

I mean, I think it's very important that I'm transparent and I'm me. And they, like, you know, I like you. When they say they like me, anybody say they like me, I know they not. They. They liking a real version of me because I'm not putting that on.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Exactly.

[2 Chainz]

I'm not like, they like. I like you. Like, oh, I might have to keep this personality. I have to remember what personality this

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

is right now, because it's.

[2 Chainz]

You might say, you know, man, it's just, you know, I like your Angie. It's just. It's genuine.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

That's who you are. I love that. 2 Chainz, thank you so much.

[2 Chainz]

Thank you for having me.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yes, absolutely. In closing, we do what is called positive outcomes, where our audience writes in, we give them advice. This is a quick one. Her name is Natina Chapman from Charlotte, North Carolina. She says, how do you chase big goals and success without losing your peace in the process?

[2 Chainz]

I'm a dreamer.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yeah.

[2 Chainz]

To this day, I'm a dreamer. And I'm not content, and it's okay to be content. Like, if you finally get your house and your dog or whatever, and you, like, this is what I. This is all I wanted. That's cool. My vision exceeds that.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yeah.

[2 Chainz]

Like, my. My vision exceeds a glass ceiling. I just right now, with the stuff I have and the car. Whatever, whatever. It's not like I want more cars. I just want more life. I want more something.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yeah.

[2 Chainz]

You know, I mean, I don't know. What's on? Going around the corner, west side there. But I do seek and I put that energy out there. I still, I'm still fishing.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yeah.

[2 Chainz]

For more success, more opportunity, you know.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yeah. And for me, I would say natina, if it is like something that is for you, it's not gonna. You're not gonna lose your peace over it.

[2 Chainz]

Yeah.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

It's gonna feed it, you know, I feel like anything that caused you to lose your piece isn't something you should be chasing after anyway.

[2 Chainz]

Facts. I like that. Look at you.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

You know, I give a little jewel. So silly. Thank you so much. This has been amazing. I appreciate your time. Guys, make sure you go get this book right now. Listen, get into it, sweeties. You already know. We about to buy all of the copies. We're gonna make this a New York Times bestseller. Please, two chains is you think you're gonna do another book?

[2 Chainz]

Please and thank you. Am I gonna do another book?

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yeah. Just the first of many.

[2 Chainz]

Never say never.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Never say never. I love it. I could also see like a biopic movie.

[2 Chainz]

Listen, guess what I'm gonna do. Guess what I'm gonna do.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

What?

[2 Chainz]

This is gonna really throw you out, throw you off. But you. You gotta know that this is. This is a great idea that I'm trying to put into fruition right now.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Okay.

[2 Chainz]

I want to do a play. And the name of the play is Something Told Me. And it's all chapters of the book. And I already got in my head how I wanted to start and everything. So we may have to. I know you know people.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

You know, we know the same people.

[2 Chainz]

I know you. I know you be in them rooms and you know people. Yes. But I'm very serious about and like that's some two Jane stuff. Like, you know, we're gonna dress up wine and a real play that has like production and like, like the way that I'm. The way that. Because I did like for my. Maybe what anniversary for True religion. Maybe my 10 year anniversary for True Religion, I incorporated the play within the show. Like. Like it was like a play. I had somebody playing my mom, me, me, the whole thing, wearing true religions, the whole thing. And just how that went. And it was like, okay, stage play. This could be something for me. But then like even sitting here with you, I was not gonna mention it. And we was just about to get off and then you said this could be the bio. And I'm like short. If you only knew what I'm thinking about doing and taking it up or not. So, yeah, like I just Want people to just really know that when it's time and you get that invite on putting on something clean, that I'm gonna have some. A real experience for you.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Oh, we already know it's gonna be

[2 Chainz]

a real experience, and it's gonna be something that people are gonna talk about for years after that.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

For real.

[2 Chainz]

Like this idea. I'm talking about, like, Broadway. Yeah, but here in the city. Yes. Ooh.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Fox Theater.

[2 Chainz]

That's why.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Okay, listen, the voice in my head was just. God, he said it.

[2 Chainz]

I said Fox, though.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

That's crazy.

[2 Chainz]

All right. And this the last thing I'm put out there.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Okay.

[2 Chainz]

I want Terrence Howard to play my pops. I gotta talk loud so that they can. He can hear it.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yes.

[2 Chainz]

Put it out there so he can hear it. Cause my dad was a little red. A little red like that. He's just like, a little red. You know what I'm saying? But even the way his voice is and all that, he can really, like, he can make it happen. But, like, imagine Terrence Howard doing a play. I ain't talking about for them. I'm to my own stage doing like that.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Yeah.

[2 Chainz]

So that's how my mind works.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

You have a brilliant mind, and I cannot wait. That's gonna be crazy. Yeah. We're gonna be front row and center.

[2 Chainz]

I'm gonna be able to use this for, like, some type of archive. I'm gonna be able to go back and, like. Because some things happen sooner than others and maybe later, but it's something like when I really put my mind to it, like, I'm gonna. I'm gonna make it. It happen.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

I'm going to for sure. Yeah.

[2 Chainz]

Even if it's not like, I ain't even going to say.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

Don't say. Don't say that.

[2 Chainz]

All right, let's. Let's do it. Yeah, let's. Let's get out of here, y'.

[Krista Renee Hazlett (Host)]

All. Yes, we out. Wow. What I appreciate most about this episode is a reminder that growth doesn't always come from the loudest moments in our lives. Sometimes it comes from learning how to be still enough to hear the inner voice guiding us. 2 Chainz, thank you for sharing your story, your wisdom, and this moment with us today. Sometimes the most powerful thing we can do is simply listen to that voice within and trust that it's already leading us exactly where we're meant to go. Thank you for tuning in to another episode of the Keep It Positive, Sweetie show. Be sure to grab your copy of the Voice in My Head Is God. Wherever books is sold, Please download the Season 10 KIPS Reflection Guide to store all gems dropped today for [e-mail] be sure to subscribe Share this episode with someone who needs it. And if you ever need advice, positivity, or just want to share something you're going through, email us@keepitpositive outcomesmail.com as always, stay blessed, stay encouraged, and keep it positive. Sweetie. I'll see you guys next time.

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[Danielle Robaix (Bookmarked Podcast Host)]

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