The Way Love Goes w/ Brat + Judy

Summary

Podcast Summary: Keep it Positive, Sweetie – "The Way Love Goes w/ Brat + Judy"
Date: February 22, 2026
Host: Crystal Renee Hayslett
Guests: Da Brat and Judy (Jesseca “Judy” Dupart)

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Main Theme: Intentional Love, Partnership, and Building Happiness

This episode dives deep into the realities of cultivating love, partnership, and joy with intention. Host Crystal Renee Hayslett connects with celebrity couple Da Brat and Judy (Jesseca Dupart) to explore personal growth, motherhood, boundaries, healing, and the sometimes challenging dynamics of love – all while celebrating the everyday choices that "protect home." The conversation is candid, often humorous, and full of practical wisdom from two women whose relationship has played out in the public eye.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Growing Together, On Purpose

• Intimacy and Privacy in Motherhood

  • Judy discusses how motherhood has changed their interactions with the public, bringing a desire for more privacy and being present for their child.

    “Motherhood keeps us quite busy… there is a sense of privacy that we want to have with our child.” (05:23, Judy)

  • Da Brat admits to caring less about social media and embracing being a mom:

    “She’s in love with being a mom.” (05:44, Judy)

• The Journey to Motherhood Later in Life

  • Both share candidly about deciding to have a child as older parents and the reality of declining egg quality.
  • Judy explains her egg extraction and Da Brat carrying their child:

    “I was able to be the oven and…I was able to carry it…At first, I was like, carry? Never in a million years.” (06:27-07:13, Da Brat & Judy)

• Transformation Through Motherhood

  • Da Brat describes the vulnerability motherhood brought:

    “...after having our son, everything makes me cry. Especially when I look at him… I’m a cream puff when it comes to him.” (08:43-08:59, Da Brat)

Vulnerability and Identity

• Breaking Old Patterns of Survival

  • Da Brat reveals she lived in "survival mode" until meeting Judy, learning to let down old defenses formed from her upbringing and early career:

    “I think I was in survival mode until I met Beautiful.” (13:50, Da Brat) “My grandma actually taught me…you don’t show them your weakness…growing up in Chicago…I had to fight all my life.” (09:17-09:34, Da Brat)

• Letting Love Be Public

  • Both share the moment Da Brat publicly embraced their relationship at Essence Fest, defying industry expectations:

    “...for the first time, I felt like I didn’t care what anybody said. The love that I felt from her—I just wanted everybody to know.” (14:43, Da Brat) “That was the first time… I didn’t care.” (16:05, Da Brat)

• Establishing Boundaries and Self-Awareness

  • Judy talks about learning to balance her natural openness with respect for Da Brat’s more reserved nature, finding a middle ground in what they share:

    “Our transparency is ours. But…there are some times where we just need to be moms.” (12:05, Judy)

The Work of Love

• Conflict, Resolution, and Growth

  • The couple discusses honest examples of conflict, such as an argument over a harmless message leading to a thrown phone (20:42-21:25), but reflect on growing into healthier communication:

    “That wasn’t a good reaction. That’s an example of a bad reaction…now we kind of know how to do [it].” (21:25, Da Brat) “I don’t respond immediately because I know I’m going to say something I shouldn’t.” (23:03, Judy)

• Different Communication and Conflict Styles

  • Da Brat wants to resolve arguments immediately; Judy takes a week or more to cool off, which they now recognize and compromise around.
  • Crystal challenges them to always affirm love before sleeping, even if conflict isn’t resolved:

    “My mom did always teach me that: never go to bed angry…” (27:49, Krista Renee Hayslett)

• Learning Each Other’s Love Languages

  • Judy: “I had to learn that even though gift-giving is a thing for me…it doesn’t matter how much I give to her…she prefers acts of service.” (28:59, Judy)

• Listening, Not Just Responding

  • Da Brat emphasizes truly hearing your partner, not just formulating a comeback:

    “Really listen to your partner instead of answering just to have an answer or a reply.” (30:10, Da Brat)

Success, Identity, and Ambition

• Supporting Individual Growth in Relationship

  • Judy encourages Da Brat to maintain independence:

    “What I never want her to do is feel like she’s been everything to me, but disregarded herself.” (35:51, Judy)

  • Judy also shares her drive for ambition and Da Brat’s acceptance of living more in-the-moment, illustrating their strengths and balance as a couple.

    “I’m happy like this…Not a planner.” (37:11-37:12, Da Brat) “You are highly ambitious…[others] are just like, I’m good.” (37:20, Krista)

• Owning Mistakes and Learning in Business

  • Judy speaks honestly about entrepreneurship, risk, and accepting responsibility:

    “If I’ve empowered somebody in a seat to be able to make a decision that could cost me millions of dollars, that was my risk.” (42:46, Judy) “No investors, no nothing. So… I am going to be in the meetings… I am going to stay up…” (41:59, Judy)

• Mutual Support and Giving Flowers

  • Da Brat’s loving tribute:

    “You are everything that a woman can aspire to be…You run Kaleidoscope as CEO, you’re a mother…You wear a lot of hats and you don’t like to get your flowers, but you are everything…” (39:58-41:06, Da Brat)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On being in the spotlight:

  “I didn’t let her in much [to the business] because she is angry, she does want to punch somebody in the face…But now I’ve let her in…she’s angry and I’m like, this actually is the order of business when you have a company.” (44:34, Judy)

• On love being work:

  “Love is not a destination…it’s like you have to work on it every day.” (31:45, Judy) “It will be difficult…sometimes it will feel like the best thing ever…and then it will feel like…not today.” (32:00, Judy, playfully)

• On balancing public/private life:

  "Even though we share a child, I also have 100% full respect for what she feels is appropriate to share and not share with our child." (12:05, Judy)

• On vulnerabilities and healing:

  “I’ve always been a cream puff inside. But I had preferred to keep it hid until she came along...Everything makes me cry now.” (08:43, Da Brat)

• Comic relief:

  • The “scroll and delete” phone advice (17:29-17:41).
  • Laughter and playful banter about old relationships and “pretty feet” (20:54-21:15, 33:32).
  • Both teasing how competitive they can be and how Judy pushes Da Brat to try new things (19:00-19:07).

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Opening and Guest Introduction: 02:44 – 05:09
• Motherhood and Privacy: 05:23 – 06:09
• Becoming Parents Later in Life: 06:09 – 08:16
• Vulnerability and Persona: 08:26 – 09:34
• Origins of Kaleidoscope (Judy’s Business): 09:58 – 11:33
• Boundaries & Transparency in the Public Eye: 11:58 – 13:13
• Survival Mode and Relationship Openness: 13:50 – 16:08
• Essence Fest: Coming Out as a Couple: 14:43 – 16:08
• Conflict & Communication Styles: 20:27 – 23:15
• Love Languages: 28:59 – 29:56
• Learning to Listen and Patience: 30:10 – 31:29
• Mutual Support & Giving Flowers: 39:57 – 41:14
• Business Lessons and Owning Mistakes: 42:46 – 44:33

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Final Takeaways

• Intentional Love: Happiness in relationships doesn’t "just happen"—it’s built consciously, with effort, humor, and honesty.
• Championing Growth: Both Judy and Da Brat encourage one another to keep their identities alive, balance work with family, and find joy in their unique differences.
• Transparency AND Boundaries: There’s wisdom in sharing your journey and joy—but only in ways that align with your values and protect your home.
• Real Talk on Success: Building anything worthwhile—love, business, family—requires risk, humility, and openness to learning from failures.
• Showing up, Always: Whether it’s through daily acts of service, listening, or simply saying “I love you” before bed, the magic of partnership is in the small, repeated choices.

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Episode Resources

• Book: The Way Love Goes – Out February 3, 2026 (pre-order available; links in Da Brat and Judy’s bios)
• Follow: @sosobrat and @darealbbjudy on Instagram for updates

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Keep It Positive, Sweetie:
This episode is a joyful, deeply honest testament to the fact that intentional love, partnership, and happiness are journeys—ones that are best traveled with grace, humor, and a touch of real-life "therapy" along the way.

Transcript

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[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Calling all my sweeties to the forefront. I'm your host, Krista Renee Hazlett, and this is the Keep It Positive. Sweet. Welcome to the Keep It Positive Sweetie show, the place where we heal, grow, and learn together. Today's guests are Da Brat and Judy. Da Brat and Judy are a couple people have grown to love watching. But today's conversation is about what it takes to build happiness on purpose. We're talking love, partnership, accountability, and everyday choices that protect home. Welcome to the Kipp's sofa, the Brat and Judy. Hey, ladies. No, I love that. We need the energy. That's good.

[Judy]

Come on.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Y' all brought good energy from the moment y' all walked in.

[Judy]

So, yes, my fault.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

I appreciate it. I have been admirers and fans of Yalls first since y' all got together, and then Brad, like, since I was a kid, like, I don't know if I told you this, and I was like, you know how you meet somebody? Like, did I say that out loud? I think when I met y' all at Tyler's house, I was like, I used to write your rap lyrics down on paper. And then, like, I was like, crystal. What?

[Da Brat]

No, it's okay. I appreciate that.

[Judy]

It didn't seem weird.

[Da Brat]

It didn't seem weird. Okay.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

It didn't.

[Judy]

Okay.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

You know how, like, after you replace some, you're like, was that too much?

[Judy]

No, no.

[Da Brat]

It don't bother me at all.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

I appreciate it.

[Judy]

I was happy to meet you that day.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Yes.

[Judy]

No, it was like we have been following each other for a long time and finally got to put, you know.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Exactly. No for sure. Judy, you have grown a multi billion dollar company empire from your salon roots.

[Judy]

Speak that into existence. You said multi billion.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

That's a billion. A million.

[Judy]

You said billion. Oh, billion. We put that out there. Yep. You said it. That's what we doing.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

That's what you're doing, and I believe it. Touch and agree.

[Judy]

Touch and agree. Come on.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

All right. Hey. I believe in that power, the tongue. But you have done so much, and I've watched you grow so inspired by everything that you do. Like your drops, every. Literally your drops and your drops. Everything is so creative, and I love everything you all do together. Brad, you have had such a legacy from starting off very young, rapping and just so, so deaf. That was like the. And still is holding its name to this day. And everything that you have done and how you evolved and grown over the years is just outstanding and admirable.

[Da Brat]

Thank you so much.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

No, seriously. And thank y' all both for taking the time when I got the call and they was like, would you wanna? I'm like, would I wanna. Yes.

[Judy]

I love them.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

So thank you so much.

[Da Brat]

Thank you. Yes.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

No, you guys have. Y' all have been very intentional and, like, out with your relationship and with everything you have going on. I feel like this season has been a little more quiet. Has that been intentional?

[Judy]

I feel like motherhood keeps us quite busy, and then there is a sense of privacy that we want to have with our child. We shared him with the world. Yeah. But then, you know, once. Once he got here and we started, you know, my mom, my wife, the first time mom.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Yes.

[Judy]

So just extra protective, extra everything. So I try to make time away from social media a lot to be more present, and she just don't give a. About social media at all anyway. So if I'm not pushing it, she not. It's the truth. Yeah, right. She, you know, she's in love with being a mom.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

I love that. Let's talk about that first time mom.

[Da Brat]

Yeah.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

And even the process of becoming a mom, because I think we're around the same age. How old are you? Is it public how old you are? Mm, yeah. So we're about the same age. So for me, I just went to the doctor feeling like I'm way too late to freeze my eggs. Talk about that journey of actually having a baby later on in life.

[Da Brat]

Oh, man. Well, I didn't realize that your eggs go south after, like 40ish. Maybe even sooner. Some people even sooner. So once I realized that, I was like, oh, no. But then my wife had some good old eggs up in there. So I was like, okay, we gonna. So, you know, we were able to get some of her eggs extracted, but she went through a horrible process. But we can elaborate on that, you know, later. But we got her eggs extracted. I was able to be the oven and I was able to carry it. You know, I got examined and all that to make sure I was good and I was able to carry. At first, I was like, carry? I'm not carrying. I don't look carry. Never in a million years. But I thought what she said.

[Judy]

What she said was, oh, God, beautiful. You should do it. Cause it's gonna slide right out. Since you had other children. That's the exact words to you as she put this on people tv. She said that on television?

[Da Brat]

I did say that. But it means that your body has had three children already, so it knows how to open and close and form.

[Judy]

That ain't what she said. Have the baby shootout. It should slide right out.

[Da Brat]

Like you shouldn't have opposed to somebody who's never had a child before.

[Judy]

And not only that, but she is. You know, she's this hard exterior, but she's the most nurturing person I ever met my whole entire life. So I knew that mother.

[Da Brat]

I'm a swag.

[Judy]

I knew that not only motherhood would be great for her, but I knew the experience of pregnancy, she would enjoy every moment of it. And she did.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Wow.

[Judy]

She did. She. I'm talking. You know, I share. I documented the moment when she first felt it moving. And, I mean, she was just crying and embracing it. All the parts of it I could never. She enjoyed, like, you know. Yeah.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

No, that's beautiful. And like, Brad, you are. You're known for your hard, tough exterior. But now I see a softer side of you. Has motherhood brought out that side in you?

[Da Brat]

Absolutely. I think it's brought it out more. And, like, doing our show and stuff, having to show so much vulnerability like that, that made me probably, like, a little softer. Publicly. I've always been kind of like a cream puff inside. But I have preferred to keep it hid until she came along.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Wow.

[Da Brat]

And made it all, like, come out. And then after having our son, everything make me cry. It's like I'm extra emotional about every. Especially when I look at him. Any little thing he does, it's just like, I'm crying, or I'm like, oh,

[Judy]

my God, he's so adorable.

[Da Brat]

Like, you know, you just are so proud of every little thing. And, you know. Yeah. I'm a cream puff when it comes to him. I used to like to keep it under wraps, but now I don't care. I'm old enough to be, like, you know, not caring about what people think of me or any of that stuff.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Right. And was that part of, like, the Persona as an artist.

[Da Brat]

Yeah.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

That you thought you had to keep up?

[Da Brat]

Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. I was always Taught. My grandmother actually taught me. You know, you don't show them your weakness.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Come on.

[Da Brat]

They show them your weakness. Then they play on that and they pull on your heartstrings. So I was taught to be a tough little kid growing up in Chicago. Plus I had to fight, you know, I had to fight all my life.

[Judy]

Oh, my God.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

I've heard Chicago can be a place that really makes you tough for sure.

[Da Brat]

Absolutely. Yeah.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Judy, where are you from originally?

[Judy]

New Orleans.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

New Orleans. Okay, so that's another city where like, you gotta. Maybe you wanna stand your ground.

[Judy]

No, I'm good. Well, I, I didn't have to fight growing up, but I had my first, like I had three children before the age of 19. But, you know, so I was into other stuff.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

So when did you get into the hair business and like start. When did you start doing hair and know that that was a skill. Skill that you had?

[Judy]

I started doing hair like when I was five. Like, you know, I used to do. My mom always tells a story. Like I used to. She used to buy me Barbie dolls and I used to just try to cut their hair and give them a little bob and then cut a little bit short until they bald head and then they would wind up with another, you know, I had to get another Barbie doll. And then I used to sit on my dad's back and just put borates all over his head. So I used to sneak clients in also. I used to sneak my friends in from school school to do their hair when my parents were at work.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Wow. So this is something that it was just in you.

[Judy]

Yeah.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

And when did you know that you had something to create? Kaleidoscope?

[Judy]

I didn't really, I didn't. I mean, I. I like doing hair. I know I always wanted my own salon. When I got my own salon, I used to like buy products from somebody that was always coming to sell products. You know, back in the day, they used to have an open floor salon, you know, where. And then people used to come in selling CDs, shirts, food. And so this guy used to come in selling hair products all the time. And he was like, you should make your own. And I'm like, I don't wanna do that. I'm charging $250 for sewing. I don't wanna sell no $5 spritz. But he talked me into it. And it just so happened that one of my clients cheated on me for another hairstylist to come back. She came back with a bald spot in the middle of her head. So I had to grew her head to the middle of her back. So even though it wasn't my fault, I didn't felt compelled to it take tell the guy that had asked me that, well, can we figure out something for this? And so that actually birthed miracle drops.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Oh my goodness. Well, thank you for the girl that cheated because we wouldn't listen. You know, there's a blessing and everything. I love that. Recently you talked about the importance of boundaries and self awareness. What is it that made you say like now you talked about being more private and protecting home. What is it that really made you decide that you wanted to just set boundaries and have more self awareness?

[Judy]

So I think in being with my beautiful when I first met.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

I love that y' all call each other beautiful. That's so cute.

[Judy]

She. She was really reserved and I've always been 100% open and I feel like us coming together is. It's me understanding my transparency is my transparency and her transparency is her transparency. So even though we share a child, I also have 100% full respect for what she feel is appropriate to share and not share with our child. So then it's okay. Yes, we are transparent. But then there are some times where we just need to be moms, you know, Like I. I like content creation. That's something that I enjoy doing.

[Sponsor/Announcer]

Yeah.

[Judy]

Whether it's the big cameras or whether it's just us doing a quick little tik tok.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Right.

[Judy]

She doesn't necessarily. I'm not gonna say she hates it, but she doesn't like it as much. She doesn't participate in it as much. Yeah. So it's is finding the middle ground of what works best for us. Like when we do our content together outside of it. Feeling like pulling teeth sometimes.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Wow.

[Judy]

Well, okay, so I could get probably two, three hours out of maybe two, three.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

That's good.

[Judy]

But then if my son don't wanna do it, we don't make him do it. We don't. We don't like it. If he looks like he's in the mood, he's not gonna wanna do nothing. He's not gonna be in it. I do feel a little sense of responsibility though, since we've given people a peep into our life to give them something, some updates. But not as much as I would do with our life and our relationship.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

For sure. No, I totally understand that brat. You have talked about spending years in survival mode, which is something that I think a lot of people can attest to, especially at the way the world is now. Every time you Turn around. It's something. But we all feel a sense of survival, and I gotta make it. I gotta make it. From grinding to protecting yourself and staying guarded. When did you realize that you didn't have to be in survival mode anymore?

[Da Brat]

Mm, that's a great question. Cause I think I was in survival mode until I met Beautiful.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Wow. I just got two.

[Da Brat]

It's been survival mode since 20. Since before 2019. 2019 was the essence Fest.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Is that when y' all met?

[Da Brat]

We met in 2018. Help me out, Beautiful.

[Judy]

See, how many years is it this

[Da Brat]

year of being together? I think five. Is it five or six?

[Judy]

I moved to Atlanta 2019, so it might have been 2018.

[Da Brat]

Yeah. So my thing was, I was always guarded. I didn't want people in my business. You know, as an artist, we're told to. Well, back then, you didn't want people to know you were in a relationship.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Right.

[Da Brat]

Because that could ruin your record sales.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Right.

[Da Brat]

So everything stayed private. I was definitely still in the closet, so I definitely wasn't telling that, let alone talk about any relationship. But it was Essence Festival 2019, and for the first time, I felt like I didn't care what anybody said. And the love that I felt from her, I just wanted everybody to know, you know, I wanted to hold her hand. I wanted to just be close to her, and I have never did that in my entire life.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

We all were like, whoa.

[Da Brat]

Yeah. We were at the Essence Festival, and I grabbed her hand, and my whole team is like, what the. What is going on? So they all grabbed each other's hands.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Everybody grabbed each other's hands.

[Da Brat]

So it looked like we were all just walking together. Like you would walk through a club or a crowded room, right? And I'm like, no, you know, like, let my hand go. I want to hold her hand. Right? And I was just all up close to it. My team was looking like.

[Judy]

You sat on my lap.

[Da Brat]

I sat on her lap.

[Judy]

They closed the door to our plate. I was like. Cause I didn't know that this was. We're not supposed to be.

[Da Brat]

They lost their minds. They were like, what are you doing? I'm like, I don't care anymore. I was like, I. This is who I'm feeling right now. And I'm like. And I want the world to know. I don't care. I want to be close to her. I want to touch her. I want to. Oh. I just wanted to be all up underneath her. And I. That was the first time at Essence Fest 2019 that I didn't care.

[Judy]

Yeah.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

What did that feel like? Just to have that freedom?

[Da Brat]

It felt so good. It felt good to not care, you know, and just be around somebody that made you just want to do that. You know what I'm saying? Not want to hide them. And she was already kind of like. She wasn't like a private person like that. I didn't realize that, you know, she was all on social media and stuff with her different partners, you know, before. Before.

[Judy]

Before me. Yeah.

[Da Brat]

I didn't scroll down that far. I was only into.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

You are so.

[Da Brat]

I was only into the. You know, the kaleidoscope stuff. Cause I was doing promo for you.

[Judy]

They would have been deleted. You wouldn't have seen them.

[Da Brat]

What you mean when we were dating?

[Judy]

You wouldn't have seen them? Cuz they would have. They would. You get deleted. What is that? You don't stay on the page.

[Da Brat]

You got to delete it from your phone though.

[Judy]

Don't start that, girl. This what we doing today? This is a safe space. Okay.

[Da Brat]

Yeah. This just the way love goes.

[Judy]

Beautiful. Listen, okay, let me explain that.

[Da Brat]

Cuz you put it out there. I have.

[Judy]

If you get my phone, it don't matter how many and like 70,000 pieces of content. Literally, like it's. It's a hundred. Yeah, 144,000 pieces.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Oh, I see it. Wow.

[Judy]

She. She went in my phone and she found something that I forgot was in there.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Yeah, you like it's buried under the content relationship.

[Da Brat]

You scroll, you scroll and you delete. You scroll, you scroll from the time you met that person to the time you still with them. You scroll and you delete.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Words of the wise. Scroll and delete.

[Da Brat]

Scroll and delete.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

You talked about the way love goes. I want to get into it. You guys have a new book that's coming out in February. What's the exact release date?

[Da Brat]

February 3rd.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

February 3rd.

[Da Brat]

26th.

[Judy]

Let's go.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

I'm excited. Happiness is framed as something you pursue, not something that just happens. What sparked the idea to say, hey, beautiful, we need to write a book?

[Da Brat]

Her.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

It's like. So you're the brains of like the business, like, and the ideas.

[Da Brat]

Yes, yes. Hey, did you know that February 23rd is the day after our anniversary?

[Judy]

You said it come out on the third. You come out on the 21st.

[Da Brat]

Oh, it come out on the third. You're right. Okay.

[Judy]

So I feel like there's so much potential.

[Da Brat]

Yeah.

[Judy]

Especially when you have a likeness. You. You have people that follow you, you have people that want to know more, people want to sew into your life. You know what I'm saying? And not like pastor, church wise, but people want to support you in anything that you're doing. Like my wife as an artist. Like, being an artist. No, we bout to sell hair products, we about to sell books. We about to do a show. And because I felt like she didn't understand her fullest potential. Listen, we were working. I mean, we were together and I was like, girl, you know how much

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

money you sitting on? Right. And we don't leave money on the table.

[Judy]

Right. You know how much money you leaving at the table? And not anything that goes against your morals.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Right.

[Judy]

You know, super extra hard work. But why don't we just do. Why don't we just do this? Yeah, I love that.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

So what, what are some of the principles that we're touching on and the way love goes

[Judy]

we talked about, I

[Da Brat]

guess, like,

[Judy]

because celebrity or not, everybody has their ups and their downs.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Absolutely. And we got to keep it real.

[Judy]

Absolutely. So relationships, you're gonna argue, you're gonna disagree. You're gonna find your way back, though. I think that's the key. And also knowing that it's not like a lot of people think it's 50, 50, but it's like 80, 20 in some areas. It's 9010 in some areas. It might be 50, 50 in some, but it's not that. And it's almost like we try to give people different tidbits of make. Was make what your thing is your thing. Like, lean into the thing that's yours and don't try to replicate or duplicate something else that you see. Whatever, whatever your person is strong in, let them lead in there. Whatever. You know that. You know what I'm saying? You might be weakened. It's okay to let them lead in that thing. And you don't have to fight over, like the power perspective.

[Da Brat]

Right.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

I love that. Brad, was there anything that you were like, we need to put this in the book, or that you really wanted to talk about or were you like, I don't know.

[Da Brat]

I mean, we kind of go toe to toe in the book. We kind of get into it a little bit. I mean, we were having. In writing the book, we were having like conversations and recording them about real life situations and things that happened and experiences.

[Judy]

Because she don't see it the right way.

[Da Brat]

No, you don't see it the right way. I mean, she has looked at my phone and saw something I had in my phone, a text and threw my phone across the room. And, you know, we have real life situations. This is a Real relationship.

[Judy]

You know, your ex told their. If your current situation told their ex, oh, your feet are pretty. Or they sent a picture of their feet and they're like, oh, that's cute. What?

[Da Brat]

It was a harmless compliment. Like, it wasn't like I was salivating over they toes or nothing. It was just like, just forget it. I don't even want to see.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

But this is like the type of things we talk about in the book. These are good conflict resolution. So how do we resolve?

[Da Brat]

You get your phone thrown across the phone.

[Judy]

You break the phone. That's how you resolve it. Break the phone.

[Da Brat]

That wasn't a good reaction. That's an example of a bad reaction right there. It didn't have to. She didn't have to break my phone. Cause then that caused more issues. I had to go get a new phone. Then I felt really bad over a simple compliment. Instead of us just sitting down talking, like we kind of know how to do now. That was early on in the relationship. She had to break my phone. Cause then I could have turned around and like, oh, you broke my phone. I'mma break your phone. And that doesn't resolve things?

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

No.

[Da Brat]

You know, but I just let her have her little funky attitude and be mad about it. And then we got over it. You know, after a few days of her not talking to me, which I hate. I do not think you should go to bed mad at the person you love. She'll just fall right to hell to sleep. Well, so eat some food and go to sleep.

[Judy]

In all fairness, in all fairness, being a person that has to carry as much as I do. Sometimes I have to turn off.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

I understand that.

[Judy]

It's either that or the worries of the world will overtake me and I'm not going to want to do any of this anymore. You know, and not life, but just all of it, like business, all of that. There's so many different things that have to be carried as like the CEO of a business, as a person that is a provider for, you know, different layers of their family. Yeah, it's like, okay, so I know we going through this. Let me put this on in the back for right now so I can go to sleep.

[Da Brat]

Yeah.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Because I need the rest.

[Judy]

Then as soon as I open that Pandora's box, it's all coming in. And also, when it comes to conflict resolution, I don't. I don't respond immediately because I know I'm gonna say something I shouldn't.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Okay.

[Judy]

So I prefer to take. Take a beat or two or a walk or something. Because I don't, I don't want to say something that I don't mean because I'm mad.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Right.

[Judy]

Okay. And I'm mature enough to know that.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Yeah, exactly. And that's smart because you can't take it all happen.

[Da Brat]

When do you bring it back up? When is it time to discuss it? Is there time? Do you carve out time? Or then does your schedule get a little bit more booked and busier?

[Judy]

I think we figure it out. I think so. Her thing is she wants to talk about it. Right then. My thing is it might be a week later. Yeah, a week.

[Da Brat]

That's a long time.

[Judy]

That is a long time, Judy.

[Da Brat]

But we don't stay compromising being in

[Judy]

the middle because she'll say, oh, so we're not gonna talk about it. And we kind of move past it. Like I try to get positive conversations going and then when we finally talk about it, neither one of us are heated.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Right. Yeah, I can understand that for the week.

[Da Brat]

This is what you made me feel

[Judy]

like in that moment or this is what, what you made me feel like in that moment. And I feel like it's more level headed conversation that could be progressive versus

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

that night that it happened. I'm like, I need a minute. Yeah.

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[Krista Renee Hazlett]

but let me, let me challenge you on this Judy or in YouTube. Brad like if either one of you make each other mad, it doesn't have to be resolved immediately. But before you go to bed, I'm mad at you. But I love you. So at least you go to bed and it's like you know what I'm saying so.

[Da Brat]

Cause if my mom, she won't say it. She ain't the one that's gonna say it. She will take her to sleep, turn over towards you. You like well you gonna sleep good like that and we going through this. You be on that side, like, I be sitting there, like, really?

[Judy]

I accept your challenge. Yeah.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Cause my mom did always teach me that never go to bed angry because tomorrow is the worst. It is. And people are going just like that. Not to get too deep, but that's something she always taught me. And I held onto that because I'm like, dang, you're right. How would I feel if Tamara woke up and you didn't wake up with me? I would be crushed. So I always think about that. No matter. Nothing is that deep. You know what I'm saying? I love you, but we're gonna figure this out later. I'm still mad, you know.

[Da Brat]

Right.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

So I challenge both of y' all on that.

[Judy]

That's fair. So she could do that easily. She is the one. Oh, so you ain't gonna say nothing? Well, I love you too, then. So she is already there.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

You probably, like, roll your eyes and turn around.

[Judy]

Be like, no, I'm probably asleep.

[Da Brat]

Yeah, she probably sleep.

[Judy]

And it's not that I don't care. It's not.

[Da Brat]

It comes off as that sometimes, though,

[Judy]

and I'm sorry that it does. It is literally me going into what you just said almost survival mode. Almost going into, okay, let's focus on the good. Yeah. Because we don't need the bad to come crumbling in.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Something I want to ask both of you, what is something that you both have learned about love as adults that you wish you had to learn earlier in life?

[Judy]

I think for me, learning that understanding your love language is one thing, but understanding your partner's love language is another. Because although I'm a gift giver, she prefers acts of service. Yes. So, yeah, I don't give a how much I give to her. She would just want my time. She would just want me to, you know, like, take the initiative to take her out on a date. And a day could be in our kitchen, and I cooked us some spaghetti, and I've made time, and I put a candle up. She don't give a about the Bentley I bought her. None of that. None of that.

[Da Brat]

And it was nice.

[Judy]

The third one.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

What? Judy, teach me the way, honey.

[Judy]

But that's what I learned. I had to learn that even though gift giving is a thing for me and it makes my heart smile, and that's how I show love. How does she interpret or receive love?

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

That's so good. And that's real.

[Da Brat]

Yeah.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

What about you, Brad? What is something that you've learned about love that you wish you had to learn earlier on? Hmm.

[Da Brat]

I would say to really Listen to your partner instead of answering, just to have an answer or a reply. Like, really listen to what they're saying and try to understand where they're coming from so you can kind of meet them and kind of put yourself into the situation where they're coming from. Opposed to just talking to respond.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Right.

[Da Brat]

And I'm used to kind of being a little combative and like, come on, we gonna go toe to toe. And that's just not her thing. So, you know, and sometimes she'll say what? You're listening, but you're listen. You're responding to.

[Judy]

Right. You're listening to respond because you. You. That means you haven't heard what I said. I'm trying to get you to receive it, and not in a bad way, but you're listening to respond. Like you. You literally listen to. To defend yourself.

[Da Brat]

Right.

[Judy]

Versus understanding my side.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

I get that.

[Judy]

Yeah.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

I think a lot of us are guilty of that.

[Da Brat]

Absolutely.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

I've definitely been that person. Or ain't listen nothing you said. I'm trying to defend the Right.

[Da Brat]

You ain't gonna make me look bad. That's not what I meant. I said, you know.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Yeah, exactly.

[Judy]

And I'm just over here, like, what?

[Da Brat]

Yeah. But you have to have a little more patience, too.

[Judy]

I'm trying.

[Da Brat]

You have to have a little more patience with me when it comes to that.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

She's out trying.

[Da Brat]

You'd be ready to give up, get out the car, walk out the room, slam the door, and end the conversation. And it just shouldn't end like that. I don't think so. You should work on your patience, as I still work on my other stuff, too.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

This is so good. I feel like we're, like, in therapy right now.

[Judy]

I love this love. Me too. And I think that's another thing. Love is like. It's not a destination. It's like you have to work on it every day.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Yeah.

[Judy]

And you have to be committed to it. And it will be difficult. Sometimes it will feel like the best thing ever, and then it will feel

[Da Brat]

like, you better not say the worst thing ever.

[Judy]

No, no, not the worst thing ever. But it. It. I was. I was making a face.

[Da Brat]

Okay.

[Judy]

So it feel like, you know, not today.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

You know, y' all a comedy. Y' all are so funny.

[Judy]

That's her.

[Da Brat]

That's you.

[Judy]

I'd just be going off of her butt.

[Da Brat]

Girl, that is a lie. You are hilarious.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

No, seriously. So funny. I want to ask you, in writing this book, were there any private moments that you had a challenge with actually putting it into the book where you were like, I don't know if I want to share this or do you guys feel like pretty much open book? Literally open book.

[Judy]

You know what's crazy? I thought she would be a little bit more private. She went to talking about our sex life, and I was like, you, we're talking about this because she's. She's super proud when it comes to stuff like that. She, like, I'm a. I'm a. Public displays of affection. I'm all of that. She is real, you know, girl, when she was. I said, so you gonna tell them people that? So I was surprised. So I don't think. When it came to the thing that I thought, yeah, you know, it wasn't that, girl.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Yeah, she's a girl.

[Judy]

I didn't even understand who this woman was when she was. Was doing this book really on that part, I was like, I'm surprised you put.

[Da Brat]

Girl, you had gave up so much information. I felt like I wasn't giving up enough.

[Judy]

So you had to step up.

[Da Brat]

Yeah, I had to step my game up to keep up with you, girl.

[Judy]

What about you and your exes?

[Da Brat]

You and yours, honey?

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Oh, we getting all the tea in the bud.

[Da Brat]

You and yours play girl.

[Judy]

The difference is mine were gone prior to us starting to date.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Oh, my God.

[Judy]

She was still clearing her path. So they had some remnants and lingering.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

That's fair.

[Da Brat]

You are.

[Judy]

You're accurate.

[Da Brat]

Yeah.

[Judy]

See why I talk about the pretty feet?

[Da Brat]

I mean, I'm the brat. I had some.

[Judy]

I didn't say you didn't. But that should have been gone before you got with me.

[Da Brat]

That's true. But I didn't know I was gonna fall in love with you. I know it was gonna escalate to what it escalated to. And I was gonna be spending the night at your condo and all of that stuff. I knew I was gonna go in the door and never wanna leave. And that's what happened. So I was like, I got some cleaning up to do. And it took a while. It took a while. There was children involved. I had to. You know, it just took more time than I wanted it to take. Cause of course, I wanted to clear everything out for our situation. But it didn't happen quite like that.

[Judy]

Yeah, she also didn't articulate that.

[Da Brat]

I was scared to articulate that. Cause I didn't wanna lose her. Because, you know, you tell somebody, well, you know, I kind of got a situation. They'd be like, oh, well, I'm out. Fix your situation. I'm gonna holla at you, right?

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Cause I'm.

[Judy]

Judy, honey. I found out. I told her. I said, I'm gonna give you a little bit of time. She did. I'm gonna give you a little bit of time. You better get this together.

[Da Brat]

And what you said was, you should have got rid of your other girlfriend before you got another one and mushed me and got out my truck.

[Judy]

I was like, I love that.

[Da Brat]

I love that girl.

[Judy]

What is.

[Da Brat]

What is we doing? But the good part is that she didn leave me. You know what I'm saying? Because that's what I was scared of. I was like, I'm gonna lose her as soon as she find I'm gonna lose her.

[Judy]

And.

[Da Brat]

And I didn't.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Oh, and here we are.

[Da Brat]

And here we are, baby. A child later, right?

[Judy]

Exactly.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

A lot of people struggle keeping their identity when they're in relationships. You kind of lose yourself and each other. How have you both been able to continue to keep your identity, but you're still lost in each other? Like, I can tell the way y' all walk in and look at each other. It's like, I just love her. But you both still stand on your own powerfully.

[Judy]

I advocate for her to keep hers.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Yeah.

[Da Brat]

What you mean?

[Judy]

Not in a bad way. Because motherhood has consumed her so much. That's what she is. Being a. A girlfriend first and being a wife consumed her so much. Like I told her recently, leave, take three days for yourself.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Wow.

[Judy]

I need you. Because I do that. I volunteer. Just let you know in about a couple of weeks, and she'll take me to the place. Like, I'm not trying to get away from my family.

[Da Brat]

Right.

[Judy]

But sometimes you need time away. And I was just telling her to leave. Even down to, you know, maybe go somewhere with your friends. And not that I'm saying get out, but I also. I've been a person that's lost myself in somebody else or lost myself in a situation, and I look back years later and regret it. And what I said, what I never want her to do is feel like she's been everything to me, but, you know, disregarded herself. Because now if we about to eat lunch, and she hate when I say this, if we about to eat lunch, here we go. And it's like, okay, well, what do you want to eat? Whatever you want. And I'm like, no, what do you want? Whatever you want. No, what do you want?

[Da Brat]

Even down to eat anything from any place that she chooses. I don't think that's a bad thing.

[Judy]

It's not. So even down to when we were talking about, like, I was talking about life plans. I'm like, okay, you know, the success of the business. We have all of this, all of this, you know, money we making and, you know, what do you see yourself doing? Do you want to invest in this? Do you want to do this? Do you want to do that? Do you want to do this? And she's like, I'm happy like this. And I'm like, no, we need to figure out what you want everybody to do.

[Da Brat]

Not a planner.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

That's true.

[Da Brat]

You are a planner.

[Judy]

Not being a planner, but just, it's like, what do you want to do? But I don't know.

[Da Brat]

Okay.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Yeah, I think some people aren't as

[Da Brat]

like, live our lives.

[Judy]

Yeah, I do.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

I like that because I feel like if everybody was a Judy, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's like everybody can't be as ambitious as you are. Like, you are highly ambitious. Highly. You have the vision, you know, and then there's some people, like, I've dated a person like you, Brad, where he was just like, I'm okay with them. Like, how are you okay with this? Like, we need to be. So I'm like you. So I get it. But I feel like it kind of balances each other out.

[Judy]

So do you want, you want to go to Paris for a month or do you want to. But she's done a lot of that, you know, so it's like you're like, I'm good. Okay. So she's done that, she's done this. She's just like, I'm okay everywhere. No, we got stuff to do. What do you want to do?

[Da Brat]

Tell me. Whatever you want to do. I'm game. Whatever you want to do, I'm going to support it. Let's do it. And I'm going to have fun doing it. I'm going to live my life just like that and enjoy it no matter what we do. As long as we together with our family and everybody's good, all the people we bless and help and take care of, that warms our hearts and our souls and our spirits. And long as you can keep being Judy Claus and Judy this and Judy and all this stuff. And I, I could keep being brat and getting loved on and loving on people. Like, that's all I need. I live day to day. Tomorrow is not promised. I don't know no plan. I don't give a what's going on. As long as we happy alive together and we got God and that's it. We Good.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

That's beautiful. I love that.

[Da Brat]

I love that.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

And I think y' all balance each other out. I think it's perfect. And you just gotta be like, okay

[Da Brat]

with being the one.

[Judy]

That's been.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Five years.

[Da Brat]

Five years from now, what do you want to be doing?

[Judy]

I don't know.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

I ain't thought about Tavare.

[Da Brat]

You, like, I just want to be. Whatever we doing with you raising our son, whatever he be, like, five years from now. What. You know, wherever we are, do you want to live in the same house? I don't know. If we move, let's move. If we don't, we'll be right here. Like, I don't know.

[Judy]

I love that.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

I love.

[Da Brat]

I do.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Because. And I feel you. Because I get frustrated. I be like, dog. Like, come on. But like, Tyler had to tell me. He's like, crystal, everybody isn't wired the way we're wired. And there's some people that are just like, I'm good. And sometimes I aspire to be like, the. I'm okay. Because I'm always like, what's next?

[Judy]

What's next?

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Like, what we doing? Like, I'm always thinking.

[Judy]

I think that's the thing, because I will never forget my first Guinness World Record. I got.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Come on, say it again.

[Da Brat]

The first.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

The first.

[Judy]

Not the. The first Guinness World Record I got. Less than an hour after receiving it, I was. I'm at my house and I'm like, okay, well, what we doing now? What's the next thing? I couldn't stay. Like, there isn't staying in the moment. I don't know how to. Like, yes, you could celebrate, but you don't celebrate and lose yourself.

[Da Brat]

But you also don't give yourself your flowers, and you don't like for people to point out that you're an amazing.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Let's give them to her.

[Da Brat]

Give them to a brand newer, beautiful mother. Just everything. You're everything that a woman can aspire to be. You are all that, like, wrapped in one person. I don't know how you run kaleidoscope as the CEO is so many. You gotta wear everybody's hat. If one person mess up, you're doing everything like you. I just don't know how you do it. You on a. You on phone calls 247 the computer. You fixing this, you fixing that. At the same time, you're a mother to True. You're a mother to Daisy. You're a grandmother to Kenzie. You're a daughter to your mama. Like, it's. It is. I don't want to ever be a CEO. I'm going to just stay right here with you and be your wife and your baby mama and rapper and actress and all the other things I do separate from that. You wear a lot of hats and you don't like to get your flowers, but you are everything and you deserve them. And I love you and I appreciate you. And you're the best thing that's ever happened to me and my son and my family and anybody you come across, because you are that. And you prove it every single day.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Okay. I'm about to cry.

[Judy]

I know. Why does she do that?

[Da Brat]

Sorry.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Receive it, Jesus. Receive it. You receive it.

[Da Brat]

Mm.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Okay. Now I have another challenge for you. Judy. I want you to also take moments to just. Cause I know you. I know you're a woman of faith and God has blessed you tremendously. Take moments to just sit in it because, girl, now you about to cry.

[Da Brat]

I know. I tried to control.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

That was so beautiful.

[Judy]

Because I think the reason she's upset is because in this season, no matter how much you try to give people grace, it's just the thing that I would never let happen. I would never let my company anything like we've had some and people. That's what I say.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Yeah.

[Da Brat]

Messed up millions of dollars.

[Judy]

But I always. Oh, I always.

[Da Brat]

Yeah, she always.

[Judy]

I built this from the ground up.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Yeah.

[Judy]

Strap. No investors, no nothing. So I was a person that had to control inventory planning from when we were ordering 30 pieces to when we ordered 300, 000 pieces. So there's not. There's no part of the company that I'm unfamiliar with. Yeah. So because of that, I am going to be in the meetings. Six o' clock in the morning, ten o' clock at night. I am going to stay up at night doing a Google sheet trying to correct somebody's information. Inventory order forecast. I am going to be doing the budgets for administration. I am going. That's. That's what I. So she's. She. She's witnessed me having to do that.

[Da Brat]

Because the people that mess up, they have no repercussions.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Yeah.

[Da Brat]

They might get fired, but they don't have to compensate for the millions that got lost and misplaced or whatever. And I can't go up. Cause I got true and I got a family and I got my Chicago.

[Judy]

But what I. No matter what I explain to her. Maybe you can help me on this. Okay. If I've empowered somebody in a seat to be able to make a decision that could cost me millions of dollars, that was My risk. Yeah. And even though it was their mistake, it was my risk because also in my company with having no shareholders or anything, I benefit the most. Yeah. So that means you also have to take the most losses. So if, if year one through and we in year 11, if year one through eight, I ate the 80 of the profit. You know, companies come a year or two later if it's something that I have to sew back into it.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Yeah.

[Judy]

It's something that I, I fall on the sword every time. I will fall every time you have to take. Even if it's somebody else's. But it's, it's my company. So that's what happens.

[Da Brat]

That's. See why I want to be.

[Judy]

Right.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Exactly.

[Judy]

I'm cool. Yeah.

[Da Brat]

I'm cool as a writer and a rapper and all that good stuff over here.

[Judy]

Right. So yeah, just being responsible and hiring, I can tell you that's a talent that I hadn't had. So I'm learning how to better hire. I am perfectly okay with saying what I'm good and not good at. Like I don't feel like I know everything. I feel like I know I'm good at marketing, but not even all parts of it. I know I'm good at social media, but not even all parts of it. And everything is also ever evolving. Yes. But being open to say, hey, we need some help. Hey, I need some help when it comes to building out structures. KPIs building out some systems and processes. Cuz I never had to have that. I, I didn't, I didn't go to college. I didn't even go to my high school graduation.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Wow.

[Judy]

So getting here, I was here by God's grace, by, you know, the mess ups, you know, and the mess ups are going to be expensive, but the generated income is also way more money than the mess up. Like yes, we had a million dollar mistake, but made 25 million a year. So you feel what I'm saying? Like what's the

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

clocking all the way

[Judy]

around part of the business? Yeah. I started when we first got in a relationship. I didn't let her in much because she is angry, she does want to punch somebody in the face. I didn't let her in much. But then I realized the more I left her isolated, the more she didn't understand why I'm taking these long meetings, why she didn't understand while I'm doing this person's job. But now that I've let her in, yeah, she's angry and I'm like, well this actually Is the order of business when you have a company, this happens. Yeah, it's. There's no company that has succeeded that has been. All workers have done their job 100% the whole entire time. And anything that ever falls it always gonna roll to the top anyway.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Yeah, that's so true. So true. I love that. I have really enjoyed my time with you guys today. Seriously. We've had tears, we've laughed, we had a little therapy session.

[Da Brat]

Okay.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

We had a few challenges. I appreciate you guys. The Way Love goes comes out February 3, 2026. Can we pre order it now?

[Da Brat]

Yes, you can pre order.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Yes, pre order it now. Let's make this a New York Times bestseller and beyond.

[Da Brat]

The links are in our bios as well.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Perfect. And we'll have your Instagram handle so that everybody can tap in and get your books now. Okay, let's support these ladies. I love you guys. I know our community loves you and we support you. Let us know anything else we can do? Is there anything else besides the book that you have coming up that we need to be on the lookout for?

[Judy]

We have a new launch, but yeah, we can just talk about the book.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Okay. All right. All right. Thank you so much.

[Da Brat]

Thank you so much. We love you too.

[Judy]

Thank you.

[Krista Renee Hazlett]

Oh, my goodness. What an amazing conversation. We laughed, we cried, all the things. Today's conversation was reminded that love is one thing, but happiness takes intention. Thank you guys so much for tuning in in to another episode of the Keep It Positive Sweetie Show. Don't forget to subscribe and share this episode with someone who could use a little positivity today. And as always, stay blessed, stay encouraged, and remember, keep it positive, sweeties. I love you guys. Until next time.

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