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In 2006, the multi platinum selling band The Fray was everywhere - their songs, Over My Head (Cable Car) and How to Save a Life dominated radio waves and television soundtracks. Behind the scenes, lead singer Isaac Slade and manager Gregg Latterman had built more than just a business partnership - they had forged a deep friendship born of mutual respect and shared artistic dreams. But by 2009, that relationship was in ruins. Today's conversation, the 2nd episode in our Hard Conversations series, reveals how they found their way back. It's a master class in conflict resolution and reminds us that sometimes the bravest thing we can possibly do is pick up the phone.

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