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For 16 years, advocates in New Mexico asked for a constitutional amendment to fund pre-K, and for 16 years the answer was no. Then Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham asked a different question: "If we can't agree on a constitutional amendment, what could we agree on?" The senator appropriated $320 million on the spot. Kelly reflects on what she learned from the governor about why the question you ask determines the answer you get and how to find the place where someone can say yes and build from there—because 16 years is a long time to push on a locked door when there's an open door right next to it.

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