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Hello and welcome to this episode of Kennedy Saves the world. It is 3:17. As we are recording this in New York City, we have gotten word and seen video of Charlie Kirk, who was shot in Utah at a Turning Point event. At this point, what we know is that Charlie Kirk has been taken to the hospital. We hope and pray that he survives this, but there are so many layers to this story and where we are as a society, where we are in terms of political reactions and those reactions that include violence and assassination attempts. And all we can say right now is Charlie is obviously a very outspoken person who is an incredibly effective communicator and those communications tend to ruffle people's feathers. And he touches on sensitive issues that get people buzzing rather and angry for days and weeks into various news cycles. And he has done that very well. He has galvanized a movement. He is very supportive of, of the President. The President has put out a post basically saying what we know now is that he has been shot and he hopes that he pulls through. Joining me now is Winston Marshall.
C (2:10)
Hi, Kennedy, thanks for having me.
B (2:12)
You were in Mumford and Sons. That's where people knew you for a long time. You gave a positive review of Andy NGOs book Unmasked, which I thought was great. I've known Andy for several years. I've interviewed him many times. He. He took me on a ride along through Portland where we could see the violence that was overflowing from the George Floyd protests and beyond during the COVID pandemic and how federal law enforcement, particularly US Marshals and the US Courthouse that they were guarding was under siege. You basically had to leave the ban because you took a look at society and you saw where we are and you weren't accepting the narrative that you were given. Argue that Charlie Kirk has been the same way. He's been very outspoken, taking a look around, and a lot of his comments run contrary to the groupthink that has taken hold in many cities, in many communities, and not done them a great service, shall we say? So you have seen the footage of what happened. You are very moved by what has happened, what are you feeling right now?
C (3:30)
Well, I didn't know about this as I was coming to speak to you and as I arrived here at the building, your staff and team told me about it and I foolishly looked on X and immediately saw what happened. I'm. I mean, horrified. It's one of the worst things I've ever seen. And I have to pay homage to Charlie at this point. I never had the privilege of meeting him, but he's invited on my show. Sorry. He invited me on his show a couple of times. Once after I debated Nancy Pelosi last year, he invited me on to talk about it and we talked about lobbying powers and D.C. and various populism. And then again, he invited me on to talk about what was going on in Britain. And he'd actually just visited Britain, I know, recently, and not only has he been completely forward thinking and brilliant on things going on in America, but he also had that sight for Britain. And I was always, I was very grateful when he came to Britain and spoke clearly and gave clarity over issues we had there. This is a man that was an autodidact. He taught himself. I think that that is a sign of a. If you, if you consider how brilliant a mind he was, if you look at him in his various debates, various, whether it's in my country at the Oxford Union or if you saw him these, he does these sort of street debates with turning Point, it seems to be that this is where this has occurred in Utah and he debates people, he fearlessly will debate anyone and that takes a tremendous amount of courage. Unbelievably brave man. Another thing I noticed about him is in the last. I really admired him for many reasons, not just his brilliant mind and his, his ability to grapple and study and make up his own mind on all these issues and really every issue. But I noticed in America after Trump's second term that there became, there was an ugly turn in elements of the right and we'd seen the reemergence of an old. I'd seen emergence of, I mean, I've been calling anti Semitism out on the left for a long time and I've seen it emergent on the online right. And also I think with the discourse around Israel, I noticed that Charlie went against the grain in even against his own tribe. And so this is a man of deep integrity. And clearly I've seen photographs of his stunning, beautiful family. I can only assume he was a wonderful father, that this can happen. It's even from coming from Britain I don't really know. I guess even maybe Americans are more used to this. I doubt it. This. I don't really know what to make of where this says we are. Particularly this week, we saw what happened to that Ukrainian refugee in North Carolina and you see all this violence streaming through on our phone. But. Sorry, I guess at this point, I don't want to make this too much of a broad thing, actually. What I really want to do is honor Charlie and honour his family and God bless them in this horrific, horrible time.