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Foreign. Hello and welcome to this episode of Kennedy Saves the World. I'm so excited because Jana Hawking is here in person. I know her because we are co columnists at the Daily Mail, and she is the resident sex therapist, and she writes hilariously and honestly. She writes about her own sexual experiences and other people's sex. And of course, people tell her everything, and she always ditches the dirt and welcome to Happy Hour, Jan.
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Thank you so much.
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You're here in the flesh.
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Oh, my gosh.
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Cheers to you.
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I'm so excited. Now, what are we drinking?
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This is a French martini.
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Oh, that is so good.
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It is a gin. Oh, that's really good.
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Yeah. That's actually going down.
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A trait that. Yeah. So it's a gin French martini. So I will give the recipe because it's quite easy and obviously it looks very beautiful. It is one and a half ounces of gin, which I put in the freezer. I use Hendrix and put it in the freezer. And an ounce of pineapple juice and a half an ounce of Chambord. Three ingredients. Great cocktail. And then I did a little garnish with two raspberries, because Chambord is raspberry liqueur. And a lemon zest.
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It's so fancy. My martinis are normally like pure gin.
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Yeah.
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A hint of. What's the other one we put in?
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Vermouth.
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Yeah, yeah. And then just chug it back. So I was ready.
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So I got. Just in case you weren't in the mood. Cause I don't know if you like sweet drinks like I do, because I love. I call them sorority drinks.
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Yes.
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But I didn't know if you were. Cause you had requested a gin martini. And so. And I was prepared to do, like, dirty, dry, like, absolutely no vermouth. And that's why I froze the gin. And I have blue cheese olives, and I've got orange bitters, and I was gonna give you a dash of that. So.
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Well, let's just keep going. Let's make this podcast forever and just walk out.
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Bl.
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Had the last time I was in New York, I had the blue cheese stuffed olive martinis. I had to get on a flight that was 20 hours. The next day, I was dry heaving.
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Where did you go?
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20 hours? No, we. No, I took the long way. So I went New York, Auckland, New Zealand. Which is.
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You can go from New York to Auckland.
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Game changer. Game changer.
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I had no idea.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Okay.
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Fifteen and a half hours straight.
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Okay.
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Then I got off at Auckland, and then I had a hair of the dog, which was a Bloody Mary, and then I hopped back on the plane and I went another three hours to Sydney.
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Have you ever barfed on a plane from alcohol?
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Yes, that was a London to Sydney flight. Oh, that's with my boyfriend.
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Well, he broke up with me. What a bastard.
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Yeah. So I was really hungover when I got on that plane. And then.
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Yes.
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That wasn't. That wasn't, you know, food poisoning. That was. I poisoned myself.
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Yeah, you were overserved. Have you ever had sex on a plane?
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No, but I'm dying.
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I just assumed it would have been a yes.
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No, no, no. I'm dying too. I just have this argument where I'm like, unless it's a short king, how are people doing it in the toilets? I was blessed to go business recently, and even those toilets are too small. So I think it has to be a private jet. And if it is a private jet, I just have to kind of say to myself, well, the air hostess is going to see it.
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Yeah.
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You know, and it won't be the first time she's probably seen it. Not at all. But I committed. My best friend and I both are manifesting private jet trips this year. We've put it on our vision boards. So whoever this is a shout out to any rich man who maybe want to join me in the Mileheart Club.
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Here's to you rich men on your private jets with Jana in tow.
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Yeah.
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Very eager. She's. She's digesting information constantly. She went to orgasm camp.
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I like. I'm really good at it now and I can teach you too. So. No, that's what I'm envisioning this year. Going on a private jet and joining the Mile High Club.
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Nice. Yes. I would always be mortified. I've never done it. I've never wanted to practically do it. It's always funny to laugh about, but my worry is that there would be a line of people waiting when I got out.
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Yes. And judging and staring because people have.
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No patience for anything on planes anymore. Yeah.
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That's why I think you need to freepour on the plane and then just be like, bugger it, we're doing it. Let's just, you know, judge all you want, McJudgerson, but do you know what I would do if I saw two people come out? I would slow clap them. Yeah.
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I'd be like, yes, I think I would too.
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Yeah. I'd be impressed.
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But I think that we hold the minority opinion. People just, you know, it's like the bathroom is such a sacred space on a plane that, you know, people. Okay, so this is not sex related. And I'm sorry, because we'll get back to your. Your area of extra. Your milieu in moments. So I was on a plane and I walked into the bathroom the second I got. Because I always do this. I always get on the plane, put my stuff down, and like, race to the bathroom. And that way I can sleep, hopefully the whole flight. Yeah, like, that's. That's the key is like, I wait until the last minute before the plane takes off. So. So I knew I was one of the first people in the bathroom. And. And the floor was covered in.
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Well, now was it just now we don't know.
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Oh, no, it was. It was a huddle. And so I was like, I wasn't gonna step in it. And so I was like. I looked at the flight attendant. I was like, you're doing the Lord's work and I appreciate you. I said, there is urine all over the bathroom. And he was like, ugh. He was like, fml. Why didn't I become a plumber? Like, and. And I felt bad because, like, normally I would help, but strangers urine is filled with things like hepatitis, and I was not going to go near it. And I felt so bad for the guy.
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No, that's where you draw the line. And it's important to know where your lines are.
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But.
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Yeah, no, but people are having sex amongst. Are they as well.
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Are people having sex on planes or is that one of those things? Like a hot tub? Like, no one has sex in a hot tub.
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Yeah, I. When I ask people, because I do tend to ask people a lot and they will say yes, I kind of call BS on it.
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Yeah.
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I'm like, I just. I just don't think you did. Especially if they're tall. Like, how. I just. I. You know when you, like, you're sitting on the bathroom in. On the toilet on a plane, and I literally am looking around going, how would it work?
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I love that you're. You're game planning it.
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Like, you're like, always.
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Let's see if we bend over here and his foot goes there.
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Yeah. Maybe if I did a few more Pilates classes, I could. But at this moment, it's private jet or nothing.
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What is something that people have been telling you recently that is either so shocking it's almost too hard to believe, or you just straight up don't believe it?
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Oh, I don't believe any woman that says she has an orgasm every time.
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Okay.
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And I have Had a lot of men recently saying to me, like, they're horrified when I say women fake it more than you know. And every guy goes, not my woman. Not my woman. I make an orgasm all the time. Blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, bro, you have no idea how much women are faking orgasms. So I never believed that, because I think we need to start admitting they're really hard to come by with a man.
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You wrote a great column about that. And it's like, stop faking it. Cause you're actually, like, you're not doing yourself any favors. You're actually standing in the way of your own experience and pleasure.
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Yep.
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Because, like, if. If you feel the need to fake it, then he's never gonna change anything.
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No, they think if you're like, oh, my God. Oh, my God, that's amazing. When they're jackhammering, they're just gonna keep jackhammering.
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That's one of my favorite episodes is Sex and the City. Is it jackhammer sex? Do you remember when Carrie's a bridesmaid and her neck goes out?
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Yes.
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Jackhammer sex. And the guy's like, that was really special to me.
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Oh, it's so relatable. But I think we do. So. One thing I did learn at orgasm camp is there's a way to politely steer men in the right direction. So you don't say, I hate it when you do that, or stop jackhammering when they do something right. Go, oh, my God, that feels amazing. Or afterwards go, I love when you did this one specific thing.
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Yeah. And then they keep it positive.
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Yeah. It's one thing they do retain. And they go, oh, start doing more of that. Or, I love it when you do this. And so we need to kind of train them into good sex and letting them know. And there was this one iconic thing Pamela, who runs the orgasm camp, said.
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So you saw her vagina?
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I saw her vagina a lot. Like, a lot. And she's got piercings that I didn't even know you could put piercings. So that was fun, but she was.
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Like, okay, they're like worry beads, but on the inside. Yeah.
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She thinks it's, like, it stimulates good sex. But I'm just. You know, I don't want a little gun down there piercing things. The nerves are so precious to me. I don't want them up.
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So is the function, like, you hate to do something that.
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Oh, God, what if it got infected? Like, we all go swimming in rivers and things.
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Yeah.
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I don't know. So. No, but she was like, treat sex like a smorgasbord. Don't be polite. Don't sit back and go, no, I'll wait for you. You take what you want. Dive in.
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I think a lot of women are conditioned to do that, especially when you have families. Like, you're conditioned to make everything and serve it. And then when everyone is, like, happy and eating, and then you're like, oh, I'll take. And so she's saying, no. Push everyone out of the way. Go to the front of the line.
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And be a glutton. Yes. Be selfish when it comes to lovemaking, and you'd be surprised that men actually love it. Like, there's a lot of men who love giving, who want to give you an orgasm before they have one, who want to feel like absolute gods in the bedroom and make you get off. So I say we need to be more selfish. We need to state more what we want, and we need to stop being polite. And we really need to stop faking orgasms. Don't fake orgasms.
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Don't ever do that.
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Worst thing you could do.
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I agree.
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Be prepared for the worst sex of your life if you keep faking orgasms.
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Or be prepared for incredible sex because you don't have to fake it.
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Exactly.
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I mean, talk about manifesting.
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Yes. Yes. Okay, we're manifesting private jets and amazing sex.
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So in one of your columns, you talked about the things women do in the bedroom, and it's not just staring up at a man while you're playing his flute, to borrow a phrase from the sexy urologist. But you had, like, there was one where I thought this was really funny. Your friend said, destroy me, and it, like.
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Oh, yeah.
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Like, it sent her partner into the stratosphere. And then he quickly proposed to her shortly after that.
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Yes. What is it about that this article went insane. So I wrote the marry me sex moves.
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Yeah. You know, like, because everyone sees the marry me chicken recipe on Instagram that went wild.
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So all these women are suddenly making this chicken recipe because, let's be honest, it's hard. Well, apart from you, who has the most amazing diamond sparkler on your hand right now, it is hard to find a man to settle down with at the moment. Especially in New York, where, you know, the men come to New York and they're here for money, money, money, work, work, work, and a bit. Finding a guy to lock it in is really hard. The people things share with me is incredible. And now I'm that girl at, like, the wedding or dinner parties who people will actually come up to and be like, I've got a story idea. Or, I tried this new story.
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What have you heard lately that you're, like, interesting.
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I've got a lot of cheating stories lately.
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That makes me sad. Yeah, yeah.
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There's a lot of. There's this whole debate at the moment about open marriages because more and more people are trying it. You know, they're getting the seven year itch and they're getting a bit bored.
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Look what happened with Lily Allen. She had an open marriage.
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That's why I say that.
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And her husband violated the confines of the open marriage because it doesn't work.
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It doesn't work. And we all knew this.
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And I. Either you shouldn't be married or someone's gonna get jealous. And it doesn't. Like, I don't know, the utopia people think they're going to build here.
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No, either do I. And I think, in theory, it's an amazing idea. And yes, I get that people want variety in their sex lives and I get that they get bored of.
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Then don't get married.
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Don't get married. Or. And like, even if you have an open communication with it, we're not designed for two people to be totally fine with it. Like, there is going to be one person who either catches feelings in.
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I think it was New York Times Magazine, the guy who wrote a letter and was like, my wife told me that she was going to cheat on me and she had a boyfriend and they had a long affair and she felt guilty and she broke up with him and now she's really sad.
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Oh, who saw that coming? Everyone I know, and I saw that coming.
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What is wrong with you? Like, you're complaining. You're like, should I console her because she's sad? It's like, kick her ass to the curb. She doesn't want to be with you. Hey, it's Kennedy. Come celebrate my 1000th episode of Kennedy Saves the World. It's going to happen March 5th. It's going to be live from Langen's right here in midtown Manhattan, across the street from Fox. There will be special guests, there will be special drinks, and hopefully there will be you. See you then. This is Ainsley Earhart. Thank you for joining me for the 52 episode podcast series the Life of Jesus. A listening experience that will provide hope.
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Comfort and understanding of the greatest story ever told. Listen and follow now@foxnewspodcasts.com or wherever you listen to podcasts. My article for Daily Mail this week was why Open Marriages and the Hot Wife Kink doesn't last long term. So for the first couple of times, it's fun, and it's like, oh, that's a bit saucy. Oh, look at us.
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But then, I mean, at some point, you're like, do you like that guy? Are you into him?
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Yeah.
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Like, you obviously look like you were liking it a little too much. That's the race.
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That's why. So there's all these Reddit threads now, full of men going, I thought it was hot at the start. But then she realized that he could make her climax faster than I could, or he had a bigger appendage than I do.
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Exactly. Like, that's where all the competition comes in. And it's like, I don't believe that men evolve to be like, yeah, go ahead and take it. It's great, huh? No.
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Well, I asked New York City Jeff divorce attorney James Sexton, I said, what do you think? Because you see all types of couples who have tried everything for the marriage.
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By the way, divorce attorneys, a great source of available partners.
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Oh, you're so right. Oh, you're so right. Okay, I'm catching up with him tomorrow, so I'm gonna ask him to play matchmaker.
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Exactly right.
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Yeah.
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Because he knows what the net worth is. He knows just how miserable someone is and where they are in their grief cycle.
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God, you've just created my next article. Oh, Kennedy, you are a genius. But I said to him, do you think open marriages can work? And he goes, put it this way, every single person I know who has tried one has ended up in my office asking for a divorce.
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Exactly.
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So checks out. So, yeah, that's the biggest trend at the moment, is hot wifing. It is open marriages that I genuinely believe.
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They don't work.
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There's even, like, a pornhub, a whole category dedicated to hot wifing.
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Now, are you looking for a relationship?
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I. I'm happy if one stumbles into my path, I'm putting no pressure on it. I'm like, I have the gift of. I'm not clucky at all.
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What does that mean?
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Like, I don't. Maybe it's a nausea saying. It sounds like an Aussie saying, but I don't want kids. I'm like, child free by choice. Always have been.
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I have so many friends who are like that. Yeah, absolutely.
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Really common now. So I've never felt that pressure to be like, I have to settle down. I have to find my husband. I have to get married, I have to have kids, which has given me time and breathing space. To find who I actually want to date. It means it's great for my column because it means I've dated an array of different men.
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The spectrum.
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A spectrum of men. So, you know, my dating column is never boring.
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I know. It's amazing. I love it so much.
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I share too much, and my poor mom is just like, do you have to treat it like a diary? I was like, I don't know any other way.
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If you want to be successful, then, yes, you do.
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Yeah. And I honestly, it's therapy to me. I'll start writing an article, I've been on a date, and I'll be like, here's how the date went. And then by the end, I've gone to the article, I've processed it, and it's come out completely differently to how I thought it was. And then I'm like, oh, actually, maybe I don't even like that guy. Maybe I was just trying to impress him. Or actually, did he ask me any questions on the date? Or, you know, he talked himself up as great in bed, but he actually wasn't that great in bed. So for me, it's really therapeutic. And for some reason, other people can relate to it. Yeah.
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And it's like, there are a lot of guys who are like, chocolate labs. Like, was I great? And it's like, good boy.
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You were such a good boy.
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You were amazing. No one's really honest with each other about. I wish people would fill out customer comment surveys.
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I do a Ask Jan, a column for Daily Mail where people send in their questions about love, sex, dating. And, like, if I had to write a book about it, it would just be one sentence which would say. Actually, it could be one word. Communicate. Yes. All your issues, all your sex problems or your dating problems or your marriage problems could be solved with one awkward conversation. And the more you have awkward conversations, the better you get at them. The more communicative you are with your partner, the easier life is.
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Amen.
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No one talks to each other. Everyone plays games. Everyone thinks the other can read each other's minds.
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Yes.
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We just have to get good at awkward conversations.
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And that's okay.
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Right?
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Because if you have one of those conversations more than once, they're no longer awkward.
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Exactly.
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It's part of the way you talk to each other.
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Exactly.
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I agree completely. Can I tell you a funny story?
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Please.
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I went traveling recently with a friend of mine, and I was wheeling both of our bags while she was in the bathroom and hers is vibrating. I was like, I think your electric toothbrush is on oh, yeah. And she was like, oh, that's not an electric toothbrush. Crying, laughing.
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I did that exact same thing on a Virgin cruise back when they had like Virgin cruises. The first and only cruise I will ever go on in my life. And actually I got in trouble by Richard Branson for this cruise, which I'll explain in a second. But my bag was. We had to drag our bags onto this cruise and my whole bag was vibrating and I just totally forgot it. And I was saying to everyone, why is my bag vibrating? Why is it vibrating? I got another journalist to put her hand on my bag. I was like, feel it, it's vibrating. And she's like, girl, what did you pack? And I was like, oh, my God. I just told everyone my vibrator. But I think you'll like this story. So I went on this cruise and I got invited as a journalist. It was the first Virgin cruise to go around Australia, which I think they've stopped now because pirates, when they were sending the cruise back from Australia to.
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The uk, don't worry, all the pirates are now in Minnesota.
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Oh, pirates. Sounds sexy. If they're anything like Johnny Depp. Yeah, I'm in. But so it's the first cruise and I got on this cruise and I was like, oh, okay. And it was half journos, half influences. Oh, wow, what a treat. And then regular, you know, cruise loving people. I started seeing these pineapple stickers on everyone's doors.
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The swingers, were they upside down?
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Yeah. So I didn't know this was a thing. So I was like, I didn't know.
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That until I got a swim bag that has little pineapples on it. And someone at work is like, oh, were you a swinger? I'm like, no, I'm not a swinger. No, it's lined. So when I have a wet swimsuit in there, it doesn't get anything else wet. And they're like, mm, yeah. And I was like, pineapples?
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Yeah. I didn't know pineapples were telling the world, if you've got a pineapple on you, you're up for it. Like, come to our room. So all these people were putting pineapple stickers on their doors, which meant if you're up for it, knock, knock. Come in. Also, one of my friends just got a giant pineapple on his arm.
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And.
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And I don't think he knows. Oh, no, I know, I know. I'm slightly concerned for him. I'm desperate to tell him, but I'll tell him when the timing is right. After a Few drinks.
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Yeah. And then send him the link.
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And then I'll send him the link. So when I kept asking, why has everyone got pineapples? And then everyone's like, oh, no. Cruises are synonymous for swingers. Like, swingers go on cruise. Makes sense, right? So then I had to write this article, and I write this one was for the New York Post, and it's. They gave it the title of Champagne and swingers. My time on the Virgin cruise.
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And Ranger Branson is like, how could you, darling?
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And I called him a daddy on it because he was on the first part of the cruise. And I'm like, he's such a daddy, because I do find him very sexy. And apparently he called up the publicist, and he's like, what is a daddy like? Well, I was like, you're welcome. I know, but. Yeah. So no pineapples and cruises and swing it.
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Well, here's to pineapple juice, cruises, and lots and lots of content for your column. Jana, you're amazing. And a little French martini to you.
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Mmm. So delicious. Oh, that's got a nice buzz to it.
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That's right. You can't even taste the gin. This has been Kennedy Saves the World along with Janet Hockey. I'm Kennedy. Listen ad free with the Fox News podcast plus subscription on Apple podcasts and Amazon Prime. Members can listen to this show ad free on the Amazon music app. Oh, go ahead and leave me a review while you're there. I'd love to hear what you have to say. You've been listening to Kennedy Saves the World on the Fox News podcast network.
Episode: EXPLICIT: Happy Hour: French Martinis & French Kissing
Host: Kennedy
Guest: Jana Hocking (Daily Mail columnist, sex/relationship writer & podcaster)
Date: February 13, 2026
In this lively Happy Hour episode, Kennedy welcomes fellow Daily Mail columnist and self-described “resident sex therapist” Jana Hocking for an uninhibited, laughter-filled chat over French martinis. Together, they explore everything from cheeky travel stories and airplane mishaps to candid takes on orgasm honesty, open marriages, and sex trends. The episode is full of witty banter, hard truths, and relatable anecdotes, all told with Kennedy’s trademark humor and Jana’s frank Australian charm.
[00:42 – 04:30]
The episode kicks off with Kennedy sharing her French martini recipe, which impresses Jana, who typically favors pure gin martinis.
The duo swaps stories about travel, hangovers, and airplane culture.
[06:50 – 10:07]
[10:07 – 15:12]
[15:16 – 17:48]
[17:50 – 20:59]
For more from Kennedy and sex columnist Jana Hocking, visit their columns at the Daily Mail and tune in for more Happy Hour podcast episodes filled with unexpected truths and side-splitting laughter.