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Hello and welcome to this episode of Kennedy Saves the World. Jim Norton is back for happy hour. Welcome, Jim.
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Thank you.
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Thank you. So I made a very healthy root beer float because I know you don't drink alcohol. And this is zero sugar coconut milk ice cream with zero sugar mug root beer.
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Oh, very nice. Okay, good.
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Thank you. So either it's going to taste like garbage or like the sweetest treat you've had this entire month of dry January.
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It's actually really good. That's really good. I'm on a. I just started. That's why I'm dressed like this. I realize I'm wearing a hoodie, but I'm just. I'm so unhappy with my appearance that I finally went back onto my diet a week ago. Okay. And I have to drop 30 pounds. This is how insecure I was coming out of the gym today. And there's a homeless guy.
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30 pounds. A lot.
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It's a lot, but I need it. Really.
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30. 30. My wife, that's like Amy Schumer territory.
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But she needed to lose the weight, and she looks good now. Like, I need to lose £30. I need to lose. I came out of the gym and there's a homeless guy who I know, and he goes, yeah, I remember when you used to be skinny. We were talking and I'm like, well, no, I'm on a low carb diet. Like, I literally just told a guy standing in his own urine that I'm on a low carb diet because I'm so insecure about how I look.
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And he's like, I would love any food right now of any kind. I don't even care about the macros. I'm standing starving.
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Yeah, this is very good.
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Oh, good. Yes. I love a good root beer float.
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I do, too. And whatever ice cream or whatever that is in there is actually really tasty.
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Yeah, it's. It's the so Delicious brand. And it used to be soy delicious, but I don't like soy milk. But coconut milk is wonderful.
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Soy milk annoys me. It leaves a weird aftertaste. I don't know why it bugs me. I just don't love it.
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And I had a friend, a male friend, who started drinking a lot of soy milk to get protein. Not a huge fan of nutrition. And he started sprouting breasts.
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Yes. I've heard that that will happen.
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That really will happen. Yeah.
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I was able to do it just by poor eating. Like, I didn't have to go down the sway route. Just. I mean, I literally trained Jiu Jitsu four days a week and it doesn't matter. Like, I. You can't outrun bad eating.
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No, that's like nutrition will define how you look like you. And my friend who is a designer always says, like, work out less and just eat nothing if you want to look like a model. Yeah, because they have no muscle tone. That's why they look so good, because they're so smooth. But I want to have muscle tone. Like, I want to be strong, I want to be fast.
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My wife always tells me, she's like, you look fine, don't lose weight. But I'm like. And people think, oh, she's so nice. No, she wants me to have a massive stroke so she can now do what she wants in the apartment. She wants decorating control of the apartment.
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She wants you alive because she loves you, but she wants you to be a youthful vegetable.
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She wants me alive because she doesn't want to split the money with my family. She wants me alive because while I'm alive, the money is still accessible. Of course. But if I drop dead, she has to split with my sister.
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I still think it's sweet. So what do you do if you have to drop weight fast? What do you do?
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My doctor told me, he's like, I'll put you on a GLP1, but I don't want to do that. Like, I. If I have to, I will.
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At what point will you do that?
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If I can't lose the weight, but I've lost it already. Like, I know how to do it. Everyone thinks it's so complicated. Work out, don't eat overeat and you'll lose weight. I mean, it's just. I hate when fat people say they eat salads. No, you don't. Shut up. But I only eat salads that I put the weight. You don't?
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No. So I believe them. I believe for 12 hours a day they eat great. And then what happens if you don't have enough fat and protein is at night, your brain is ready to consume everything and it will trick you into eating. And when you eat a bunch of sugar before bed especially, it just. It magically turns to fat.
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Yes. And if you put cookies on your salad, that's bad. It's not healthy. But it's hard to not eat late. Like, it just sucks. I'm home. I bought some like fat free a thousand island dressing and I'm just dipping carrots into it. Any tuna fish? It's not fun.
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Yeah, I did noom during the pandemic and it made me fatter.
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What is it?
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It was, it's like this diet based on mindfulness and, and everything has like green, yellow and red categories. But I ended up thinking about food so much.
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Yeah.
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That I felt like I was developing an eating disorder. Like it wasn't helpful and I didn't lose weight. And the counselor was like, are you maybe exaggerating the number of steps a day? It's like, no. I'm walking everywhere. I'm getting 23, 000 steps a day and running.
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Right.
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And it just, it wasn't working. But I think like, it really is pretty basic. And you know, my. I have a physical therapist who's also a trainer, and he's like, it's really unsexy, you know, for the rest of your life, you have to work out twice as much as you think you need to and you have to eat half as much as you'd like to.
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Yeah.
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And you know, it is a cruel calculation, but that really is the only thing that will help you, like, lose weight and live a long time.
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Yeah. And like the GLP ones, maybe they're fine, but I would rather do it naturally. I have corduroys I bought. Like, I really am. I'm like, I'm drawn to dress like Judd Hirsch and Taxi. Just like nice big sweaters and corduroys.
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Sweaters with the collar.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Kyle maybe a pocket. Like when he's an ordinary people as the therapist. So I go to these corduroys. But I went to Ralph Lauren when I lost weight and I spent a lot on these. Great. Now I'm too fat for them and I'm miserable. And she keeps telling me, buy new clothes. And I'm like, no, don't buy new clothes.
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That's the gateway to like being fatty. Like a 600 pound comic.
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That's right. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. So I'm like, no, I'm gonna be uncomfortable until I lose the weight and I'm comfortable in my clothes.
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So women are the new men in that regard. Because for a long time men were like, I don't care. I have a Leo DiCaprio dad bod. Like. And women were the ones always obsessing, like, have to be thin, thin to win. And then it sort of flipped. And men are like, I'm going to the gym, like, making them gains, like doing my macros. And when we're like, it is so healthy to be 350 pounds. They plus size, everything. But then what happened? It was very interesting because you had, you know, it's all about that base. Like, Meghan Trainer. Like, I love my big fat ass.
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Yeah.
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And Lizzo's like, I'm sexy because I'm the size of an F150. And Amy Schumer like, I love being chubby. And then they all went on GLP1s and. And they all got skinny and they all post thirst traps because they hated themselves when they were fat. And body positivity was all a lie.
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Yeah, it is. It is a fake thing. Body positivity. Like, don't, don't. Don't hate your own guts, but recognize when you're a disaster. I think that's a fair thing to do because I don't. Like, I hate how I look like, but I know I look bad. Like, I know when I look back, I have a mirror. So I don't have any mercy on somebody who's fat and pretends they're not fat in. It's my fault I got fat. And it's your fault if you get fat and do something about it. Shut up.
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But I think so much of that is performative.
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Yes.
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I really do. And people going, yes, you go, girl.
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Yeah.
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It's like, no.
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What?
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You go like, to the morgue. Because that's like, if you keep on, like an extra £150, you will die early and the death will be miserable.
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And there's a line between, like, body. Like, hey, like, you don't want it. Like, when fat people walk down the street, you don't want to throw apples at them. Like, you don't have to shame people to humiliate them. Hey. But the body positivity is like, well, I'm still a valuable person, but we all know we don't look good when we're overweight. It is what it is. I was happy. I mean, I'm friends with Amy, so I'm very happy that she dropped it. And she seems happier and, you know, like, I know how it feels to drop the weight. And you always feel better about yourself.
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That's how you know, why the necessity to post every bathing suit.
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You know what? If I lose the weight, I'll probably do that. Not in a bathing suit, because I'll never look good enough. I would love to put on a Speedo. I would love to just. My wife would be nauseous looking at her stupid husband in a Speedo. I'll just creep her out.
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Will you admit when you look good, though, are you such a self loather that you'll never be able to walk past mirror and go, yeah, that's right.
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I'll never say that. I'll never say that. I'll never make like. Ah, but. But I might go like, all right. Like, that's as good as it gets for me.
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Yeah.
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And a couple years ago, I'd lost weight and we, she and I went to an event in LA together and I looked really good. I'm like, that's how I should be. Not skinny like I was. You know, like I was dying. Like I was years ago. I was really. I look at my old photo. I was creepy skinny.
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Yeah. Like, everyone goes through a phase like that.
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Yeah. Gaunt.
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Not sustainable.
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No. And not. It doesn't look good.
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Have to eat.
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Yeah.
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But the point is like moderation and balance and you know, don't just shove a bunch of in your mouth and think if you do it fast enough, like, no one will notice. Especially like your pancreas, like, you know, it'll all catch up to you.
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Yeah. But like moderation is tough and I'm an Internet comments. Like, I mean, there's all creeps out there, but they are right. Like they'll be like, Jimmy got fat. You're right, I did. So it's good for you to say that because it makes me constantly unable to. Again, don't listen to your wife because, you know, she doesn't care. I know how I look and they're right and I have to do something. So I appreciate all those comments. I put up a post today, I did Jay Moore's podcast and it looks like he's talking to a frog. I'm like, I'm like, who is that fat necked moron that's talking to Jay? Look at me now. I'm not, I'm not self hating. I'm very realistic. He's great.
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Okay, so this podcast.
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Very funny.
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You are both sober.
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Yes.
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Are you both as funny as you were when you were drinking and using?
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Well, I haven't. I'm sure Jay is. He's still. He's the same guy. Like, just conversational. He's very funny and he's caustic and he's sharp. And me, I started stopped drinking when I was 18, so my whole adult life has been sober. Yeah.
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Oh, so you don't. You barely remember what it was like.
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Yeah, I remember the bad nights and I remember what it did. I'm definitely, it's definitely a problem if I do it again. I know that.
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So that's amazing that you know that because there's such a difference between, you know, a reckless 18 year old boy and you know, a guy who's lived through several decades has won and lost and ebbed and flowed. Do you, do you think you could ever trust yourself? Like, do you ever feel like, if I could only have a glass of chardonnay at sunset.
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No, because it's, it's like, look at, like this is what happens when I trust myself. You can have a cookie on the road instead of getting hookers, you know, because I'm married, so I don't do that stuff anymore. That's where, that's where it is. It was like, it's all a dopamine chase.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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It's all a high. And the high used to come from random sex and all these things and sex workers. And I stopped doing that because I got married. And it's like you still crave the rush. You still crave the dopamine. And food is like, Food and sex are very similar. Like you can't quit them. You can only moderate and be healthy. Like, you know, alcohol, drugs, I quit. You can quit gambling. But food and sex are very, Food's brutal.
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Yes. And I agree. So I'm doing partially parched January until later this weekend when I'm going on vacation. I'm like, I want to be able to drink at least a little bit on vacation. But it's, you know, it's always great when you stop drinking. You're like, ah, my sleep is so much better and my skin looks better and. But it is, I do replace the craving for champagne and a margarita with chocolate.
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Yeah.
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And that does it. Like I can, I can plug my head hole with chocolate and be. And it is that dopamine rush.
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Yeah. And that's, that's all it is. So when I'm in a hotel, sugar, it is chocolate. Yeah.
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So it's like. And I don't even care. I'm like, I will rationalize it. I will, I will pull out studies and like, well, dark chocolate actually has the same effect as a four mile run.
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Yeah.
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On your brain chemistry.
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Yeah. There's always that one thing you look like in the, in the Hindustan times. There's always these weird size that you can find stuff on. But I, I, for me it's pretzels and carbs. Like, it's like cheese nips.
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Yeah.
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Oh, and cheez, its those little fish. I mean, handful after handful. And my again, that's why I'm convinced she's trying to kill me because she brings home things that she knows I can't eat.
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You can't resist.
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And I'M like, look. She's like, you want me to make you a healthy snack? And I'm like, sure. And it's crackers with cheese. And I'm like, it's not healthy. I can't. I can't eat that.
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Not if you're trying to drop £30.
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No, no. So I'm convinced she's trying to kill me under the guise of being nice.
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How much have you lost so far since you've been trying?
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I just, I literally just went back on a week ago, so I'm not even gonna weigh myself for a month. I still look like a disaster. And I'm still lugging around the same weight with less energy. So I'm very tired because my energy is so.
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Jiu Jitsu four days a week.
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Well, yeah, Jiu jitsu, Muay Thai four days a week. And I love it. I mean, I love doing it.
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And do you feel like if your life, if your wife's life were in danger, you would be able to defend the both of you?
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It would depend on what the danger was and how good the other guy could fight and if they had a weapon and how many. Of course. I mean, but I would. I'm better now than I was two and a half years ago. But, you know, if there's three guys with guns, you know.
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Oh, yeah, no one can. Yeah, no one can do that. But if someone came at you with a gun, like, would you be able to.
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No, no.
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Two hands. I watch a lot of self defense videos.
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Yeah.
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I think it gives me false confidence.
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Yeah.
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Because I'm like, okay, then you grab the wrist and then the other wrist and then do the Russian kickback. And then you destabilize the head.
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Yeah, yeah. They palm or they. Where they show guys running at you like that with their arms down. Then you met the master palms them and they fall back, you know. No, I don't think that's how. If someone pulls a gun on you, I'm not confident enough to reach for a gun. I would try to probably de. Escalate.
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Yes.
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With a gun, a knife if you have to. But even then you're probably still gonna get stabbed. I mean, it's, it's Not a. It just teaches you to defend yourself. But it's not, you know, you don't run. You can't be reckless.
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Yeah. I saw a funny Instagram reel of a guy who comes up to a guy getting into his car and say, give me all your stuff. And then the guy's like, yeah, okay, I do bjj. All right, You. What do you do? And he gets down, like, oh, he.
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Falls on his back. Yeah, Come on, let's go, let's go.
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Come on. And the guy's like, what are you doing? No, we got. What is wrong with you? And then just leaves.
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Yeah. There's a lot of those videos where they show guys reacting in real life using. And they're made by Jiu Jitsu Gu. And then there's all the ones that, like, where they show the fake energy ones where guys will run in and the master puts his hand up and they just drop. Or he touches them with their finger, and then they'll show, like, bjj. Guys acting it out. What would really happen? It's very funny. There's a lot of crap online, and it's just. None of it's believable.
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No. I love it, though. I do, too. I really do schedule in time every day to just sit there with Instagram reels and like. Ah, that's. Or hours. Yeah, I could do it for hours.
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And it's not even all negative stuff. Like, it's literally stuff about. I'm obsessed with Japanese hornets. Those giant ones. I mean, they're like that big, and they. They're very dangerous.
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Do they scare you or do they intrigue you?
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They terrify me. They're like. They hover like helicopters. I mean, they're giant beasts.
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Are they here? Can we have Tom Holman deport them?
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I like Tom Holman. He's very. You know, he's hard to understand. He talks very quickly. Just a big.
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Can I tell a funny Tom Holman story?
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Yes.
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I don't think I've ever told.
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I don't think there was one.
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I love him because at the time, I was instructed by my bosses at fbn, Fox Business, that I was not allowed. So they pulled me into their office to show this video, and it was Stuart Varney and Tom Holman.
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Who's Stuart Varney?
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Stuart Varney hosts nine to Noon on Fox Business.
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Okay.
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He's like a. The business savant. He'll tell you about the markets and politics and what's worth. And will, we're going a very, very smart Englishman. So Stuart Varney is interviewing Tom Homan in the first Trump administration and said, does the president deserve credit for his immigration successes and his success at the border? And Tom Holman said, he should own it. And Stuart Varney's producer heard he on it. So he tells Stuart, make him apologize. And. And Stuart's like, what? And he goes, can you please take that back? He's like, take what back? And he goes, what you just said. He goes, what did I just say? He goes, you know what you said. He goes, what did I just say? You said a bad word. He's like, I did. And he's like, yes. Can you please. He's like, I take it back. He goes, I'm sorry to get really excited about the President. I really love defending his record. Sometimes I get a little emotional. But he didn't say he on it. He just said, you should own it.
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Oh, you should own it.
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He said, you should own it. And he's like, shit on it. And the producer heard he on it.
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Yeah. He's a hard guy to understand. And it's. I watched him. I started to like him when he. I became aware of him really, a while ago, it was with aoc where she was again arguing emotionally about family separation. And he was saying, when I arrest. You know, people are arrested for drunk driving. You separate. You know, when you're arrested for committing a crime, it's what happens. I just like the way he methodically kind of answered questions and without being emotional and just. This is the way it is.
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Yeah. I mean, I appreciated after the Minneapolis shooting, he was like, well, there should be an investigation.
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Yeah.
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And everyone else think she's a domestic terrorist. He's like, well, maybe we need to figure out, like, what happened. Exactly what happened.
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Yeah.
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Let's ask some questions, figure it out, be transparent about it. And then, you know, everyone can have the facts when they make their judgment call.
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Why is everybody in such a. And it's, It's, It's. It's regard. It's not regarding party. It's. Everyone does it. They're just in a rush to stand there and go, this is what happened and I'm right. Or you're wrong. And it's like, why don't you just wait and see what happened?
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Yeah. Like there's a medal.
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Yeah.
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You know, like. Like there's. There's a magical social media podium, and if you don't say, like, the hottest Take within 30 seconds, you lose.
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It's so silly. And then nobody comes out and goes, wow, I got that wrong. It's like, everything has to be spun into how I was. Right. But because. No, you don't. They all act like me when I got caught cheating. No, but no, it's like that. I'm just. It's all. It's all pivoting into other discussions. It's like, just admit you got it wrong. It's okay.
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I mean, but that's like, that's what I want people to do in 2026, in general. Just take responsibility for it. If you screw up, say, I'm sorry. Or just admit it. Like, that goes so much further than. Well, actually. Actually, I was right because. Which is so annoying.
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And sometimes everybody has a point. Like with the whole Nicholas Maduro thing. I do believe that oil is a motive. I do believe that he was a very bad guy bringing drugs in. I do believe it's better for the Venezuelan people. Like, I think all those things are true. Like, I don't think that you have to stand there with one thing and go, this is what it's for. And you're wrong. Like, I don't know why everybody can't just go like, oh, yeah, there's a whole bunch of reasons that that happened.
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Yes.
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And we're all kind of right.
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Yes.
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And we're all kind of right in the thing. Like, you know what I mean? Like, we're right in the thing that we like for it and we're right with the thing that we don't like about. Who cares? You don't need to be right.
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No. And the idea that there's only right or wrong and you can't critically assess any situation, we're worse for it.
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And you get accused of fence riding and it's like, no, it's not about fence riding. And these people have this fake integrity and this fake sense of I'm speaking truth to power. No, you're not stupid. You're getting a round of applause from everybody in your group who already is pre designed to agree with you. Yes, it's fake bravery. It's a total jerk. Yes, it is. Not that I'm against that. Let me be honest. You know, my nickname was the cracker kid growing.
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And that's because he's white.
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Yes. Oh, yeah, that's right. I forgot. I should explain.
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Cheers to you, Jim Norton, and to you.
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I love this, this diet stuff. Thank you.
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It's really not bad.
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I want to get what it is from you because I will actually order this.
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I will show you. It's the. The mug, root beer, zero sugar, and the so delicious, zero sugar, coconut milk, ice cream. Oh, look how happy we are in this non alcoholic happy hour.
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Yeah.
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This has been Kennedy Saves the World along with Jim Norton. I'm Kennedy. Listen ad free with the Fox News podcast plus subscription on Apple Podcasts and Amazon Prime. Members can listen to this show ad free on the Amazon music app. Oh, go ahead and leave me a review while you're there. I'd love to hear what you have to say. You've been listening to Kennedy Saves the World on the Fox News Podcast Network.