Is Spencer Pratt LA’s Last Hope? FT. Ruthless

Summary

Podcast Summary: Kennedy Saves the World

Episode: Is Spencer Pratt LA’s Last Hope? FT. Ruthless

Date: May 28, 2026
Host: Kennedy
Guests: The Ruthless Podcast Team

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Episode Overview

In this spirited and wide-ranging episode, Kennedy welcomes the entire Ruthless podcast crew for a humorous, thought-provoking, and candid conversation. Deliberately veering away (at least initially) from hardcore politics, the group delves into everyday interactions, psychedelic drugs, skydiving, traumatic animal encounters, and—centrally—the Los Angeles political scene, where reality TV personality Spencer Pratt is running an insurgent campaign. The group’s characteristic wit and irreverence fuel their analysis of political dysfunction, personal freedoms, urban crises, and the oddities of American life.

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Table of Contents

1. Social Niceties & Regional Differences (00:44)
2. Ketamine: Club Drug, Therapy, or Societal Menace? (03:08)
3. Skydiving & Brushes with Death (09:23)
4. Los Angeles Crisis & Spencer Pratt’s Campaign (13:12)
5. The Democratic Machine & Urban Despair (16:41)
6. National Political Forecast: Newsom, Kamala, and the Left (21:13)
7. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

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1. Social Niceties & Regional Differences

Timestamp: 00:44 – 03:08

• Kennedy opens by musing about everyday small talk and the phrase "I can't complain," debating whether it veils deep despair or genuine optimism.
• Smug (Ruthless co-host) jokes that in a nice New York building, a doorman says “I can't complain” because "upon punishment of death, I cannot complain." (01:38)
• Midwest-vs.-New York friendliness is highlighted; Midwest folks, says Kennedy, “will actually tell you their problem,” with a mock imitation:

  "You know, the gout, it’s really flared up again. The Aleve just doesn’t touch it." (02:15)

• Duncan introduces the idea that some people just choose optimism in NYC, even if it annoys everyone else.

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2. Ketamine: Club Drug, Therapy, or Societal Menace?

Timestamp: 03:08 – 13:12

• Kennedy pivots with:

  "Alright, so let's talk a little bit about ketamine." (03:08)

• None of the guests have firsthand ketamine experience, but Kennedy claims to know “probably 30, 35 people” who've tried it, especially as a therapeutic tool.
• Ketamine’s duality as a recreational “club drug” (popular in party scenes) and as a fast-track therapy for trauma is explored.
• Kennedy, a philosophical libertarian, supports individual choice but questions if “ketamine is destroying our society from the inside out?” (03:37)
• Smug tells a story looping Jim Irsay (Colts owner), Silicon Valley billionaires, microdosing, and why the ultra-wealthy pursue ketamine despite extravagant options:

  “Does ketamine beat that? And is that...like, riding the edge?” (05:02)

• Kennedy details distinctions: “Ketamine is like Tylenol, where ibogaine is like oxycodone. It’s just, like, much more concentrated.” (07:34)
• In discussing veterans’ use of ibogaine for PTSD, Kennedy criticizes the VA's reliance on “antidepressants and psychopharmaceuticals, which don’t necessarily get at the problem.”
• The conversation covers abuse potential, referencing public figures’ overdoses (Michael Jackson, Matthew Perry, Whitney Houston), and ends with a joke about the dangers of mixing drugs and water.

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3. Skydiving & Brushes with Death

Timestamp: 09:23 – 13:12

• Duncan likens drug risk to skydiving, which he strongly recommends for its adrenaline rush:

  “It is that good. Like, I just had a kid, so I’m not gonna skydive anymore...but it is that good. Skydiving is that good.” (09:26)

• Kennedy ups the ante with a personal tale:

  “I had that when I survived being trampled by a rogue male elephant in Zimbabwe. I’m not even lying.” (10:36)

  • The group erupts in disbelief at this near-death animal encounter.
• Jokes ensue about guns and proctology punch cards, maintaining the group’s irreverent tone.

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4. Los Angeles Crisis & Spencer Pratt’s Campaign

Timestamp: 13:12 – 16:41

• Kennedy, with personal Los Angeles property struggles, brings up reality star Spencer Pratt’s campaign, asking:

  “Is Spencer Pratt LA's last hope?”

• She describes systemic failings—insurance, city government, and a community fed up with inaction:

  “We can't get our insurance companies to pay for anything. … Spencer Pratt has come along ... channeled it, you know, pretty brilliantly.” (13:12)

• The Ruthless team praises Pratt's campaign for genuine outrage and strong message discipline.
• Duncan notes:

  “[Pratt] speaks their language in a way that only someone who has lived in Los Angeles for as long as he has could. … It’s an uphill battle.” (14:42)

• Holmes points out that Pratt stands out because “nobody would imagine that somebody like Spencer Pratt could even be in this conversation,” yet he now dominates local political buzz.

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5. The Democratic Machine & Urban Despair

Timestamp: 16:41 – 21:00

• The discussion broadens to critique LA’s entrenched Democratic establishment, referencing the candidate to Bass’s left (Nithya Rahman) and how nonprofit groups (NGOs) have made “homelessness” and “crime” into lucrative businesses.
• Duncan:

  “They see desperation itself as a business opportunity. That is a system that I think Spencer Pratt has really shown the light on. And I hope to God he's successful, because I don't know what cities like Los Angeles look like 10, 15 years from now if they don't have some kind of correction.” (20:03)

• Kennedy invokes the specter of the Rodney King riots, arguing current anger may be more activated than in 1992:

  “I have never seen so much activated anger. ... If not now, then when?” (19:24)

• She lambasts Republican ineffectiveness in California:

  “The Republicans, California are like, nutless.” (20:03)

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6. National Political Forecast: Newsom, Kamala, and the Left

Timestamp: 21:00 – end

• Kennedy pivots to “who’s next” in national Democratic politics, especially in light of California Gov. Gavin Newsom’s ambitions and perceived failures.
• Duncan sneers at Newsom’s “naked attempt at capturing any attention,” pointing out that none of his stunts have helped in polls against Kamala Harris, who “remains the front runner.” (21:35)
• Holmes:

  “You can see all of these Democrats positioning themselves, and then there’s the huge, like, sort of at the altar of Bernie Sanders … who’s gonna take that?” (23:14)

• Kennedy and crew dismiss Kamala’s political longevity and AOC’s performative politics, referencing her infamous congressional hearing with a “bottle of dirty water.”
• The episode closes with patter about self-care and punch cards, Kennedy’s affection for The Green Mile, and the promise of future in-person collaboration.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Ketamine’s Social Role:

  “Is ketamine destroying our society from the inside out?”
  — Kennedy (03:37)

• On LA’s Problems:

  “I have never seen so much activated anger. … If not now, then when?”
  — Kennedy (19:24)

• On Democratic Leadership:

  “They see desperation itself as a business opportunity.”
  — Holmes (20:03)

• On Political Performers:

  “She shows up at a hearing with a bottle of dirty water and is blaming data centers for it and it turns out the wrong fricking county.”
  — Holmes (24:30)

• On Irreverent Solutions:

  “I think that’s the bottom line. We all need guns.”
  — Kennedy (11:32)

• On LA’s Future:

  “I hope to God he’s [Spencer Pratt] successful, because I don’t know what cities like Los Angeles look like 10, 15 years from now if they don’t have some kind of correction.”
  — Holmes (20:03)

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Episode Flow & Tone

• The conversation is rapid-fire, playful, and provocative—characterized by Kennedy’s biting New York humor, the Ruthless team’s Midwestern and coastal sensibilities, and satirical asides (“nutless” Republicans; “piano key teeth” Newsom).
• Policy talk and personal anecdotes blend seamlessly, providing deep dives into issues through the lens of lived experience and cultural observation.
• Listeners are left with a sense of genuine concern for societal malaise, critical skepticism toward establishment solutions, and a rueful hope that outsider candidates might “save” cities like Los Angeles.

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For listeners:
This episode delivers equal doses of outrageous storytelling, comedy, and political critique. You’ll get insight into the LA political climate, the appeal (and complications) of outsider campaigns, the mismanagement of crises by entrenched interests, and the always-unexpected Kennedy perspective.

Transcript

[A]

Hello, and welcome to this episode of Kennedy Saves the World. I'm so excited because the fellas from Ruthless are here. I've been wanting to talk to all of you at the same time in the same place. I have been on Outnumbered with Smug and Josh. I have never met Michael Clarke Duncan or. Or John Ashcroft.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I'm familiar with all of your work, and when you covered up the boobies on the statue, I was there for it. I was disgusted. Gentlemen, welcome to Kennedy Saves the World.

[C]

Oh, it's so good to be with you.

[B]

Thanks for having us.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

This is exciting. So I want to. I. I don't necessarily want to talk about politics because you guys talk about politics all day, and I want to touch on a couple of races at the end, but there. Okay, this is something. And I want all of your takes on this, because it has been gnawing at me. When I left my building today, and the doorman at the building, I said, hey, how are you doing today? And he goes, I can't complain. With that look on his face. Like, what does it mean when someone says, I can't complain? Does it mean that my life is an abysmal hellhole and you have no idea what's going on, and it's like termites consuming me from the inside out and I want to die? Or is it like, you know, hey, man, things are amazing, and I can't complain about anything? Like, what is the subtext when someone

[B]

says, I think it's, you live in a good building, they run a tight ship, and you don't want to deal with, like, a doorman, you know, burning your ear with all his problems. He's like, upon punishment of death, I cannot complain.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

I feel like it's one of those responses where they know that, you know, that you really don't care the answer to it. Right.

[A]

And I've said that. I've said that. When. When someone has said, I can't complain, I go, well, you can, but no one cares.

[C]

Exactly. So you get it.

[E]

That's very New York. Like, in the Midwest, I feel like people will actually tell you their problem, you know? And as guys from the Midwest, oh,

[A]

my gosh, you know, you know, the gout, it's really flared up again. The Aleve just doesn't touch it. I tried the tart cherry juice. You know, it kind of gives the scoops.

[C]

So true.

[D]

I don't know. I'm not as cynical. I think some people just have a sunny disposition. Some people are just ready to have a Good day. No matter what's going to come their way. And they know that they're living in New York and they're going to be around a lot of people who are mad for whatever reason, and they're like, you know what? I choose to be happy this morning.

[C]

The old needle in the haystack of

[D]

optimism because they know it's going to make every other person around them that much more angry

[A]

in New York. It's not a needle in a haystack. It's a needle in the side of your ankle because you stepped over poop and into a discarded heroin needle. Thanks, Mom. Dying. All right, so let's talk a little bit about ketamine.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Oh, my God, I can't believe we're jumping right into it.

[A]

I've never done ketamine. I've never done any psychedelics. I've done like meditation and, you know, some weird connective tissue, like hippie dippy massage. And that's as far as I've gone. But I, you know, as a philosophical libertarian, I am here for whatever anyone wants to do. Is ketamine destroying our society from the inside out?

[C]

Seems pretty rad though, doesn't it?

[B]

So.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

So I can, I can talk at length about ketamine, but not because of experience. I've never done ketamine or know anyone who has, but I am increasingly.

[A]

I know probably 30, 35 people who've done it.

[B]

But that's the thing is like, I'm very curious about it because you hear about folks who have done it.

[C]

He's just encouraging people to do.

[B]

But here's the thing.

[C]

Unbelievable.

[B]

Here's the thing is. So let me take a step back. So Michael Duncan, our co host, is from the Indianapolis Duncan's. They're a well known family there. His father was like a big publisher out there and they were friends with.

[A]

Do you know I'm a Hoosier?

[E]

You are? I didn't know that.

[B]

I didn't know that.

[A]

Yes, did. I am a Hoosier.

[B]

So did you know the Indianapolis Duncan?

[A]

No, I'm. I'm from the. The Brownstown Montgomery's.

[E]

Hell yeah.

[A]

Yeah, the. The Indianapolis Duncan.

[D]

Didn't.

[A]

Did you. Did you go to rub elbows?

[E]

Did you go to college in Indiana?

[A]

No, my dad went. My parents met at Ball State and then my dad went to law school at IU and taught at Purdue. I have a 17 year old who is a junior in high school now just finishing up her junior year and I, I'm really encouraging her to go to iu. I just think it's a phenomenal.

[E]

It's phenomenal. I went to iu. It's one of the most beautiful campuses in the entire country. It's all limestone. It's sort of the picturesque, like what you imagine is a college town in America. Highly, highly recommend.

[B]

But there's a dark side of Indianapolis, and the story is to go with the owners of the Indianapolis Colts, Jim Ursay, you know, God rest his soul, there were stories that he may have been doing too much ketamine. And I'm careful discussing this because the Ursas are family friends of the Indianapolis Duncan. But anyways, so when this story breaks. So when the story came out of Jim Ursay, this, this guy's a billionaire, successful, he owns a football team. And, and, you know, rumors were that he was doing too much ketamine. And it's right around the time that stories came out of like, oh, you know, folks say that like, Elon Musk also enjoys like microdosing ketamine. And they're like, it's a big thing in Silicon Valley. A bunch of billionaires, they enjoy like, you know, doing ketamine. And my thinking is like, listen, when you're a billionaire, you could, you could have anything in the world, truly. You could be like, I want a 200 foot yacht. I want like, you know, the Swedish swimsuit team on that and fly it, all my buddies on helicopters. And you could do that 365 days a year, but they choose ketamine. So does ketamine beat that? And is that like, you know, is it like riding the edge? What did Ursa in? Because it's like, do you have to just microdose it? And he was like, you know what? I could have anything in the world. I just want more ketamine.

[C]

It's like an endorse. Like when I do death defying drugs, I do ketamine.

[A]

Okay? But obviously there's recreational ketamine. And I, you know, I don't like to brag, but I probably hang out with more gay dudes than you guys do. And, you know, ketamine has for a long time been like a club party drug. But the people who get the most benefits get it in a therapeutic setting where it is administered by a psychologist to, you know, not only runs you through a series of tests and therapy sessions, but they, they figure out, like, what is your trauma? And then they access it. It's a fast pass to access your trauma. And so people I know who've done therapeutic ketamine have had like, really Amazing results was this.

[B]

Joe Rogan had that thing at the White House. The President Trump, like, the right to use this for, like, veterans and stuff was, that's ibogaine.

[A]

I began. So as I'm engaged to a combat veteran, and I'm very passionate that the VA is really underserving our veterans by, you know, not properly addressing psychological issues in ptsd, but also over prescribing all sorts of antidepressants and, you know, psychopharmaceuticals, which don't necessarily get at the problem. So there are a lot of veterans who have been working with wounded combat vets who suffer from ptsd, and, you know, they have bravely used themselves as guinea pigs and the same kind of therapeutic setting with ibogaine and have had, like, phenomenal, amazing results that are, you know, unparalleled in terms of efficacy. I've heard amazing things, and it's. It. But ketamine is different. Ketamine is like Tylenol, where ibogaine is like oxycodone. It's just, like, much more concentrated. But I will. In terms of the Swedish bikini team and the helicopters, you get all of that with ketamine, but then it's gone in 15 minutes, which is what a lot of people want, because billionaires, it's like, man, you know, I got a company to run. She's a real leg humper.

[E]

Okay, so back on to the Jim Merce thing, because I have to crack the record for a second here with smug, because there was some. I mean, Jim Irsay suffered from, like, a lot of substance abuse problems for most of his life. I don't think ketamine was ultimately the cause. I mean, it was a. It was a long road for him. But, like, what I don't understand about

[A]

ketamine might have filled some of those potholes.

[B]

Maybe.

[E]

Maybe.

[A]

Seriously, like. Like, he. It may have been a bumpy road, and, like, there have been. Might have been a couple times, and he could have abused ketamine. Like, that's the thing. You can abuse.

[E]

You can abuse anything. I kind of view all of those drugs, though, kind of like skydiving. It's like, isn't life interesting enough? Like, why. Why. Why do we have to. Why do we have to do this?

[B]

Here's the thing. Have you been skydiving?

[E]

No, I don't want to be skydiving.

[B]

It's that good. It is that good. Like, I just had a kid, so I'm not gonna skydive anymore because, you know, there's that risk. And I'm not gonna make my kid an orphan, but it is that good. Skydiving is that good.

[D]

Is it really?

[B]

Oh, it's amazing. It's mind blowing. When you're about to jump out of the plane the first time, you're like, this is so stupid. Like, this is so risky. And then like five seconds later, it's the most mind blowing experience, just falling free.

[A]

So how long does it take? Because that feeling, like, you know that feeling when you first drop on a roller coaster and your stomach goes into your throat and it's like, for me, like, I like it, but it's. It's very anxiety free.

[B]

Probably the first three seconds out the door, I felt like I was gonna die.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then to go from that to, like, elation, and then just like, the view is amazing. It's beautiful. And it's crazy because, like, it was when I lived in New York and they fly you over New Jersey, so if they can make New Jersey look beautiful, like, that's truly mind shattering. But then, like, you know, you're flying, you're like, wow, this is amazing. This is beautiful. And the parachute works and you land and your first thought is like, I want to go right back on the plane. Really?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

It's amazing. I highly recommend it. Find a safe, reputable place. It's amazing.

[A]

I had that when I survived being trampled by a rogue male elephant in Zimbabwe. I'm not even lying.

[B]

What?

[A]

Yeah. So we had a male elephant mock charge us, and then another male crept up behind us.

[B]

Like raptors. Oh, yeah.

[A]

And then. But the guide had his gun and the safety was off. Like, he had the mock charging elephant. And then the other guy comes up and the guy didn't know it, and we couldn't say anything and we couldn't move, and we couldn't be like, hey, Quinn. And there's another his friends right over here. Like, we're good. No, it was. It was wild. And then, like, the guide was shaking the. You know, both the elephants walked away and we were safe. And then there was another guy and I were like, let's go find more elephants. And everyone else is like, are you safe?

[C]

That would not be my reaction.

[B]

No.

[C]

Thank you.

[B]

We all need guns. There's lots of elephants out here.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

I think that's the bottom line. We all need guns.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. That's a good takeaway from all of this. Ketamine guns. Yeah, we're good. Maybe mixing the two. I don't know on ketamine, though. Isn't that how Jacko went down. Who, Michael Jackson? Yeah.

[A]

Propofol.

[B]

That was a painkiller, right? Or the sleeping is to what? They make you go under for surgeries, right?

[A]

It's anesthesia. So, like, when you go for your colonoscopy, none of you are there yet. So in 20 years, when you guys go in to get your poop shoot scoped, they give you propofol because, you know, they. They turn it on, you're completely asleep. They turn it off, and you're like, I don't feel a thing. Why is it sticky? That is Propofol. Like, that is how bad his sleep disorder was. But once you've had propofol, you're like, I get it.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, maybe that's why is Ashbrook. Is that why you go for recreational colonoscopies?

[A]

Do you have a punch card?

[B]

I don't know. It seems like a bad situation. You wake up, you're like, why does my butt hur. I don't want to be in that situation.

[E]

No, Holmes, I think you're thinking of Matthew Perry.

[C]

Oh, Matthew Perry. That's what it was.

[E]

But his was ketamine of friends.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

In the hot tub. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. That's a tough deal. Well, you mix that in water, I mean, Whitney Houston found that out.

[B]

I mean, that's the thing is, like, that's. That's extenuating circumstances. Like, okay, we didn't say do it in a pool, right? You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, don't do nyquil in a pool.

[C]

To be clear, we're not saying do it at all. We're just examining the certain aspects.

[A]

Michael Phelps ain't doing nyquil in the pool. I ain't doing nyquil.

[B]

Fair enough.

[C]

Fair enough.

[A]

Don't go anywhere more. Kennedy Saves the World right after this. All right, but I do want to talk since. Since we have now tiptoed into Los Angeles. I am. I'm all on board with Spencer Pratt. I have a house in Pacific Palisades that is uninhabitable. We have been completely screwed over, not only by the state and the city for allowing this to happen in the first place. My biggest problem and all of my neighbors are going through the same thing. We can't get our insurance companies to pay for anything. And, you know, the people like me who have severe smoke damage and lead and arsenic, who can't go into our homes, the insurance companies are like, what? Smoke? And, you know, they're. They're trying to pretend like, you know, we somehow caused arsenic to come into our house and was probably there beforehand, even though our homes were livable for decades. And Spencer Pratt has come along, he has tapped into his own resentment and anger and I think channeled it, you know, pretty brilliantly. But also he's talking about homelessness and the other stuff that is affecting everyone in Los Angeles. I know that the primary is coming up on Tuesday, June 2. What do you think from your guys experience, from what you do, from what you have seen on the inside out, working with pollsters and people who create ad campaigns and, you know, political advisors. What do you think of his campaign so far and his chances?

[D]

Well, from an advertising perspective, from a message perspective, I don't think he could do anything better than what he's doing right now. His message seems so genuine. The angry citizen who's standing up to do something about how terribly the Democrats have run his city. And if you listen to him talk, he grew up around Democrats. He actually does speak their language in a way that only someone who has lived in Los Angeles for as long as he has could. But the reality of this race is it's very difficult. It's an uphill battle. There's a reason why L. A has voted Democrats time and time and time again, and there's a reason why there's somebody even to the left of the Democrats who thinks that she has a chance to win this race. And so he has an uphill battle, but the guy sure as hell is doing absolutely everything possible to win.

[C]

Yeah, I think.

[A]

Is he doing it right?

[D]

I think he is.

[C]

He's doing absolutely everything he can do. No question about. I mean, getting attention alone is difficult to do because nobody would imagine that somebody like Spencer Pratt could even be in this conversation. And now it's been what, two, three months where he's been kind of top of that, the billing in terms of politics that people are talking about, what his ads look like, what he's doing, what he's saying. I think the rubber kind of met the road on that debate stage because it wasn't just all flash, it wasn't just all ads. This is a guy who spent an enormous amount of time, obviously to anybody who watched that, studying what went wrong and what these people do. And he's tapped into this underlying anxiety that Americans have right now, which is you don't. This is the kind of thing, what you're talking about with your story and the insurance companies and all of that, that's the kind of thing that you have a government for in the first place. Right. It is not to make performative statements about gender identity or, you know, what you stand for or what. It's to help people. It's to make sure that you got schools and roads and clean water and all of the basics. And he has just sort of put that out there for the first time where people like Karen Bass have to examine their own careers.

[B]

Really? Yeah.

[E]

Because, I mean, Spencer Pratt really isn't running against Karen Bass. He's running against a system that has failed. And it's not just the mayor's office, it's this Nithya Rahman who's running, like Ashbrook said, to the left of Karen Bass. She was in charge of the homelessness problem on the city council and it's gotten nothing but worse.

[C]

Well, I made it a business rather than a solution.

[E]

And then you think about the backdrop of the national conversation we're having about these left wing nos that profit off the misery of Americans in, in American cities, and you start to understand how a guy who had his house burned down could broaden the aperture a little bit to all these other problems you're seeing in a liberal city like LA and say, hey, maybe this liberal governance is the failure. Yeah, maybe. Maybe there are people that profit off of fentanyl zombies rather than trying to solve the problem because it pads their bottom line. And so he's broadened out the conversation beyond just the Palisades fire into attacking the system itself. And it's not really even a partizan message. And so I think he has the opportunity to really catch lightning in a bottle here during this jungle primary. His problem though, I think, is if he gets to the runoff and it becomes a red versus blue situation, it's going to be very difficult to overcome. But if he peaks at the right time during this June 2 jungle primary, he might clear 50%. If he did that, I think that's his best chance to win. I worry about a runoff when it's a 1v1 sit.

[B]

And right along that is, I think it's so sad that the desperation of the existing powers that be, which is to say the Democrat machine in California and especially in Los Angeles, they're hoping that partisanship can overcome a possible solution that people are hungry for, that they're hoping we can't make this a situation how government has failed our citizens, how we have not addressed the issues that matter to them, how rather than tackling the problem of homelessness, we lecture people to say unhoused.

[C]

Yeah, their only campaign message is put your jersey on. Yeah, put your jersey on.

[B]

It's really sad. It's really sad.

[A]

And Rahman. Rahman's solution is just spend more money. And it's like how you can't keep taxing people. You know, it's like they're already paying enough in gas taxes, they're already paying enough in property tax. You have people who were burned out in the fires who are still paying property taxes and mortgages on empty smoking lots because they can't get money from their insurance companies to rebuild. I have one friend who got her settlement and she filed her permit paperwork months ago. She cannot get a permit.

[B]

So it's like.

[A]

And you know, I'm looking at this going, I have never seen so much activated anger. And I was in Los Angeles in 1992 for the Rodney King riots. Like, they rioted on my street. I remember like, viscerally how angry people were. And it felt like a powder keg before the riots. And, you know, this is after the disaster. And, you know, I'm looking at this going, if not now, then when? Like, what will it take? Because, you know, you don't want a greasy career politician. And I'm sorry, but the Republicans, California are like, nutless.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, it goes all goes back to what Duncan was talking about with these NGOs, is that the Democratic establishment and the party machine in California and a lot of these cities around the country see homelessness as a business opportunity. They see crime as a business opportunity. They see drug abuse as a business opportunity. For the politically connected that are in their circle and help fund their campaigns, they see desperation itself as a business opportunity. And that is a system that I think Spencer Pratt has really shown the light on. And I hope to God he's successful, because I don't know what cities like Los angeles look like 10, 15 years from now if they don't have some kind of correction.

[A]

Did you see Karen Bass? Yeah, I think it was yesterday. She was like, when I was a kid, Los Angeles didn't have people on the street and it was affordable. Yeah. Just a few years ago. Yeah, I'm going to make it better. Except for the part where I've had four years and it sucks.

[C]

And it's. Her entire career in Congress is exactly the same thing. Right. I mean, it's. You just expect. You expect what you get. And when somebody's been there for decades upon decades, they're going to do what they've done and it's nothing.

[A]

So is Gavin Newsom, with all the failures in his state, is he going to be the Democrat nominee? Is that if you guys are forecasting you know, you talk about all this stuff. Can Governor piano key teeth actually become nationally viable? It's terrifying for me.

[D]

I mean, he sure thinks so. But he's gotta get past Kamala Harris first.

[E]

That's the thing.

[D]

His most famous constituent.

[B]

He has really done everything possible. He's tried every possible stunt to try to garner attention, because so much of politics right now is capturing people's attention. You're competing with algorithms and different social networks and different streaming sites to get the attention of an individual and to be able to break through. And you're seeing Gavin Newsom be like, what if we made a Twitter account that just tries to reply to Trump and say mean things? And that fizzled out, and he's like, well, what if I. What if I go to Davos and I try to shout at people to get attention? No one really cared about that.

[C]

Then Bess body bagged him.

[B]

That's the thing is, like, every attempt he's made is. Is the most, like, cynical and naked attempt at capturing any attention, and none of it has increased. That's the thing, is his standing in the polls to go above Kamala Harris, who remains the front runner. And this is someone who just finished losing a general election and is still topping Newsom in the polls.

[C]

It's mind blowing, I think.

[A]

Yeah. And she's like, I just need a little more time. I just. That's all I need. It's like, lady, you went, like, in the weeks that you had, you went down. Like, your polling went down. You had a billion dollars.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

If you look at the graph, at the amount of time she had, it wasn't getting better. It was not getting. But, you know, the interesting thing about this is it's really. It started in earnest, and I think over the last couple of weeks, Newsom's been working on this for three, four months to maintain relevance and try to be a part of the conversation. But you saw, like, Governor Shapiro of Pennsylvania go out and take a shot directly at Kamala Harris, saying, I think people are looking for something new. Which is basically a.

[A]

Well, you're not losing, it turns out.

[D]

Right.

[C]

And then you've got a bunch of political operatives that are operating in Georgia with. With Ossoff, the senators running for reelection down there, who are, like, trying to promote this campaign in Georgia as sort of a stepping stone to a presidential run. I mean, you can see all of these Democrats positioning themselves in different places, and then there's the huge, like, sort of at the altar of Bernie Sanders, because everybody knows that Bernie's Too old. He's not going to do it. So it's like, who's the next? Is it aoc? And that's like the simmering undercurrent of the like, progressive psycho left of who's gonna take that?

[A]

I just think if she gets on a debate stage, so many establishment Democrats and she withers. Like, she really. She does not put herself in a position to be authentically challenged, you know, not since she sat down with Margaret Hoover and was like, I'm not really like a foreign policy.

[B]

That's the thing is I'm more like

[A]

self care and air fryers. Yeah.

[B]

And that's also a huge problem that the Democrats have is that so much of their grassroots interest can be captured by someone going on Instagram like aoc and being like, so here's the problem is we need to just tax rich people and then everything's been fine. She doesn't have any actual policy.

[C]

Well, it's all shtick, right. She shows up at a hearing with a bottle of dirty water and is blaming data centers for it and it turns out the wrong fricking county. Like, it's not even in the right. Like they don't have any commitment to fact or policy or anything.

[A]

Unfortunately, that was her urine sample. Not. It's not good.

[E]

I thought it was Ashbrook's last proctology exam.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[A]

That's why he's got a punch card. Gentlemen, thank you so much for taking the time. Ruthless is amazing. You are a breath of fresh air and a dream come true. I hope to sit down and talk with you guys when you're in New York, so thank you so much.

[B]

You bet. Kennedy.

[C]

Always love it.

[A]

Thank you. And I love the Green Mile. This has been Kennedy Saves the World along with the Ruthless fellas. I'm Kennedy. Listen ad free. With a Fox News Podcast plus subscription on Apple Podcasts and Amazon prime, members can listen to this show ad free on the Amazon music app. Oh, go ahead and leave me a review while you're there. I'd love to hear what you have to say. You've been listening to Kennedy Saves the World on the Fox News podcast network.