Kennedy Classic: Dr. Drew Happy Hour

Summary

Kennedy Saves the World: Kennedy Classic – Dr. Drew Happy Hour

Podcast: Kennedy Saves the World
Host: Kennedy (FOX News Podcasts)
Guest: Dr. Drew Pinsky
Date: December 25, 2025
Episode Description: A personal journey through the ultimate prism: freedom. Kennedy brings her wit, logic, and compassion to conversations that probe politics, culture, and parenting, featuring lively banter with notable guests.

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Episode Overview

In this “Kennedy Classic” happy hour episode, Kennedy welcomes longtime friend and addiction recovery expert Dr. Drew Pinsky. The conversation, equal parts humorous and heartfelt, explores sobriety, health trends, family challenges, life in the public eye, and the psychological complexities of fame. With Dr. Drew’s trademark candor and Kennedy’s quick wit, the pair delivers an entertaining and insightful dialogue about personal growth and cultural shifts.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Sobriety and Alcohol’s Impact

• Dr. Drew’s decision to stop drinking: He shares that he and his wife decided to give up alcohol, and that Joe Rogan made a similar choice independently.
  • Timestamp [00:59]: “I've stopped drinking this year. Me and Joe Rogan have stopped.”
• Health rationale: Drew explains the toxic impact of alcohol and its carcinogenicity.
  • [01:39] Dr. Drew: “Alcohol is actually one of the direct poisons to many human tissues… and carcinogenic.”
• Personal anecdotes: Kennedy reflects on joining Dr. Drew in periods of sobriety, and they reminisce about past happy hours together.

2. Family, Friendship, and Heroic Moments

• A story of crisis: Kennedy recounts a harrowing incident when her daughter was locked in a cab with a threatening driver. Kat Timpf’s husband, Cam, intervened heroically.
  • [04:57] Kennedy: “Cam, at 1:30 in the morning, went downstairs, intervened... waited for the police to get there, helped the girls give a police report, and then escorted them to our apartment.”
• Parenting paradoxes: Kennedy and Dr. Drew discuss the ongoing challenges of parenting, from newborns to teenagers and beyond, with both humor and empathy.

3. Health and Wellness Trends

• Supplements and anti-aging: Drew discusses his supplement regimen, emphasizing nicotinamide riboside for NAD elevation and C15 (pentadecanoic acid) for fighting aging-related oxidation.
  • [08:07] Dr. Drew: “I'm a big believer in nicotinamide riboside. I'm a huge fan of these. It elevates NAD on a daily basis.”
• Skepticism on peptides and telomere therapies: Drew voices caution about trending anti-aging therapies and the lack of causational evidence behind telomere lengthening.
  • [09:26] Dr. Drew: “I don't know if the telomere lengthening thing is causational or incidental… exactly why it's happening is still mysterious.”

4. Hormesis, Cold Plunges, and Blue Zones

• Cold therapy debate: The value of cold plunges is discussed—if not for physical biology, then for the psychological resilience it builds.
  • [13:09] Dr. Drew: “There’s a psychological benefit of doing something so miserable and uncomfortable on a regular basis.”
• Longevity myths: Drew challenges the findings behind “Blue Zones,” revealing many long-lived people reportedly fudged their ages for pension benefits, though healthy habits still matter.
  • [14:02] Dr. Drew: “Most of these blue zones are just a bunch of people who lied on their birthdate… that said, they're advocating good things.”

5. The Psychological Toll of Fame, Especially on Child Stars

• Hollywood demons: Dr. Drew discusses the liabilities of fame for child actors—identity issues, codependency, and the destabilization when productions end.
  • [17:47] Dr. Drew: “As an adult…it was a sort of a shock to the system. …But what about someone who is 14, codependent. Or 12, and was abandoned or physically abused…all of a sudden, they have a dad in this family system, and maybe for years. Right. …And then everybody goes, boom, gone. It’s not good.”
• Therapy and the public eye: Both hosts share their experiences with therapy as necessary for people with public lives.
  • [19:17] Kennedy: “You got to talk. You got to take stuff somewhere where it’s… truly safe.”

6. Comedy, Gutfeld, and the Art of TV Panel Shows

• Preparing for panel shows: Kennedy and Dr. Drew reflect on the unpredictability of “Gutfeld!” and what it takes to deliver laughs and insight on the spot.
  • [10:21] Dr. Drew: “Part of our job is to make fun of Greg. …It's hard to be funny and say something meaningful at the same time, and you do it every time.”
• Norm Macdonald’s Cosby joke: Dr. Drew shares an example of comedy’s edge in sometimes controversial company.
  • [20:21] Dr. Drew (on Norm Macdonald): “I just love Bill Cosby… everything I do, I fashion after Bill Cosby—except his comedy.”

7. Loss, Broadcasting, and Weirdness

• Both hosts pay tribute to Jed the Fish, an influential radio DJ who embraced and encouraged weirdness in broadcasting.
  • [20:58] Kennedy: “He was the first person who taught me it's okay to be weird. Like, you can be weird as a broadcaster, and as long as you're passionate…people will remember you.”

8. Loveline, Media, and Cultural Desensitization

• Impact of candid sexual conversations on MTV: Dr. Drew expresses mixed feelings about how his show “Loveline” may have contributed to cultural desensitization.
  • [22:11] Dr. Drew: “I think we contributed to this mess we’re in. It’s an interesting thing to talk about.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Quote | Speaker | |-----------|-------|---------| | 00:59 | “I've stopped drinking this year. Me and Joe Rogan have stopped.” | Dr. Drew | | 01:39 | “Alcohol is actually one of the direct poisons to many human tissues… and carcinogenic.” | Dr. Drew | | 04:57 | “Cam, at 1:30 in the morning, went downstairs, intervened... waited for the police to get there, helped the girls give a police report, and then escorted them to our apartment.” | Kennedy | | 08:07 | “I'm a big believer in nicotinamide riboside. I'm a huge fan of these. It elevates NAD on a daily basis.” | Dr. Drew | | 13:09 | “There’s a psychological benefit of doing something so miserable and uncomfortable on a regular basis.” | Dr. Drew | | 14:02 | “Most of these blue zones are just a bunch of people who lied on their birthdate… that said, they're advocating good things.” | Dr. Drew | | 17:47 | “As an adult…it was a sort of a shock to the system. …But what about someone who is 14, codependent. Or 12, and was abandoned or physically abused…all of a sudden, they have a dad in this family system, and maybe for years. Right. …And then everybody goes, boom, gone. It’s not good.” | Dr. Drew | | 20:58 | “He was the first person who taught me it's okay to be weird. Like, you can be weird as a broadcaster, and as long as you're passionate…people will remember you.” | Kennedy | | 22:11 | “I think we contributed to this mess we’re in. It’s an interesting thing to talk about.” | Dr. Drew |

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [00:59] - Dr. Drew discusses sobriety and the rationale behind stopping alcohol.
• [04:35] - Kennedy shares the story of her daughter’s taxi scare and Cam’s intervention.
• [07:44] - Dr. Drew’s supplement regimen and aging discussion.
• [13:09] - Cold plunges: Hormesis and psychological benefits.
• [17:47] - The impact of fame on child stars and psychological health.
• [20:58] - Remembering Jed the Fish and embracing weirdness in media.
• [22:11] - The legacy of Loveline and TV’s role in shaping culture.

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Tone and Delivery

The episode is defined by its playful yet substantive tone—Kennedy and Dr. Drew speak with warmth, candor, and humor. Personal anecdotes, mutual respect, and spontaneous riffing make even serious reflections feel accessible and engaging. Listeners leave with both laughter and something to ponder about sobriety, wellness, parenting, and surviving the public gaze.

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Summary by Segment:

• [00:36–03:49]: Alcohol, sobriety, and personal stories; Kennedy and Dr. Drew recall their own drinking histories and turning points.
• [03:49–06:15]: Heroic family moment; the complexities of modern parenting and the importance of supportive relationships.
• [06:15–09:39]: Health supplements, anti-aging; skepticism about trendy therapies.
• [09:39–13:15]: Longevity myths, cold showers, and the challenge of sorting science from fads.
• [13:15–18:19]: The pitfalls of fame, lessons from Hollywood, and the special vulnerabilities of child stars.
• [18:19–20:58]: Insights on therapy for public figures; how fame distorts normal life and interactions.
• [20:58–22:11]: Tributes to colleagues; the cultural impact of candid conversations about sex and relationships on TV.

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For listeners seeking a mix of wisdom, humor, and sharp social commentary, this episode delivers an entertaining window into the candid minds of Kennedy and Dr. Drew.

Transcript

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[B]

Hello, and welcome to this episode of Kennedy Saves the World. I figured, what better way to celebrate happy hour than with a man who has put more people in rehab than Tom Homan has deported to El Salvador by a lot. Dr. Drew Pinsky is here.

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That is probably an accurate number that I have treated probably 10,000 addicts in my day.

[B]

Wow. Congratulations.

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Thank you.

[B]

That's a big number.

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It's a big number, but I know something about it. As a result. And you mentioned before the mics heated up, I've stopped drinking this year. Me and Joe Rogan have stopped.

[B]

Was that a pact you made together?

[C]

No, I made it. Actually. My wife, who's. I'll leave it to her to say what she's doing because I don't want to reveal anybody's stuff, but I did it. Support her.

[B]

Oh, good for you.

[C]

Yeah, it's been great. And we just were in Europe until a couple hours ago, and it made such a difference on the jet lag. I mean, as you get older, you really feel this stuff. It's not good for our brain, guys. Not good for the brain. Where's my camera? This one? Not good for your brain.

[B]

No, because when you drink alcohol, it releases acetaldehyde.

[C]

Acetaldehyde that's in the stomach. But it's more than that. Alcohol is actually one of the direct poisons to many human tissues. I know it sucks and carcinogenic.

[B]

I know it causes cancer. It's horrible for your stomach, it's bad for your blood.

[C]

Only drug we use on a regular basis.

[B]

But it's so fun.

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It is fun.

[B]

And I wish it weren't.

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I wish, you know, I had my time with it. Right. 50 years or so. That's fine.

[B]

No, I've boosted up with you. We've had a great time. I always quit drinking when Drew stops drinking because I feel like, you know something?

[C]

I'm flashing on the first time I met Kat's now husband, where we drank a little bit.

[B]

We did. In a beautiful bar overlooking Central park.

[C]

In the Mandarin Oriental.

[B]

Yes. That's a gorgeous facility.

[C]

And I told her the same thing ever since that day. You know what I told her that night? And I told her every time I see her, I say, you said, he's.

[B]

So handsome, I want her to kiss him.

[C]

No, I did say that. But what I tell her is, I don't know where you can go in this show, but you can go anywhere you want. Okay. What I tell her literally is, kat, don't this up. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

And that was the prevailing wisdom.

[C]

Yeah. I think you told us something similar.

[B]

Yeah, so. But so did her dad. So did her sister.

[C]

We all knew Kat. We know Kat.

[B]

She had a bad first date with him and wrote him off like, that's it. This guy's a finance bro.

[C]

No, he's too good.

[B]

He's a.

[C]

And no, she never said he was.

[B]

The first night they went out. Yeah. And then her sister was like, no, no, go out with him again. And so they went out on a second date and that was it.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Like second date together for life.

[C]

So there's a lesson here, everybody.

[B]

So I have to tell you something about her husband because obviously Kat's on tv. We talk a lot about Kat. Her husband, Cam, West Point grad, combat veteran for Army Ranger. Yeah. It just, you know.

[C]

Yeah. Keeps going.

[B]

He's a really impressive person, truly. And worked really hard to get to West Point. He was a student athlete, played lacrosse at West Point. Incredibly difficult.

[C]

He was a state level ice hockey player.

[B]

Oh, wow.

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And then switched at West Point to lacrosse.

[B]

So not long ago, my almost 20 year old daughter and her friend were in a cab. The cab driver would not drop them off, would not let them out of the cab. And it was like a moment of panic. I was on a plane so I could get her texts. I could not intervene. I could not get on the floor.

[C]

Did you get text about it?

[B]

Yes. So she was like, this is so scary, Mom. I don't know what to do. Please help me. This guy won't let us out of the cab. He's been super creepy the whole time. He's yelling at us. He locked all the doors. So I was like, okay, first of all, don't panic. If you panic, you. You kind of. And I was like, second of all, go into a lit place with people. Like, don't run into. Don't run onto a dark street. Find a hotel, a deli, something that's open, a Dunkin Donuts, whatever. And just go in there, make some noise, get some help. And. And I texted Cam. Cause he was across the street. And I was like, Is there any way. Cause I was, like, going through my mind. My legal domestic partner was in the woods. I was on a plane. Her sister was in the house.

[C]

Not many people can say those words.

[B]

It's true. It's true. That entire sentence. So Cam, at 1:30 in the morning, went downstairs, intervened.

[C]

I'm not surprised.

[B]

Yes. And de Escalated the situation, waited for the police to get there, helped the girls, give a police report, and then escorted them to our apartment.

[C]

It was a real deal.

[B]

Yeah, it was a real deal. And he stepped up without question. He was like, I'm on my way. And he went. And it's so funny, because they have a newborn baby, and you think when your newborn is sleeping that life will be fine, that you will once again.

[C]

Chance to have some quietness, to go to sleep for a night.

[B]

And then you have teenagers, and you're.

[C]

Like, it all starts over.

[B]

It really does, but.

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And then you have grandkids.

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He's such a good guy.

[C]

I need to go see them tomorrow. Are they around?

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Yes.

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Okay.

[B]

Yeah. And just, you know, what an incredible couple. What Kat has been through and the kind of mom that she naturally has become is just.

[C]

It's such within the face of. I don't know if we're should be talking about her medical situation, but she has had some extreme challenges and really risen to the occasion.

[B]

Yes. In ways with humor and grace and honesty that very few people would be able.

[C]

Totally agree.

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Tackle.

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Completely agree.

[B]

So let's drink our green tea to her.

[C]

All right. Oh, I see. So instead of alcohol, I get green tea. Well done. I like it.

[B]

Because you can't cheers with water. Green tea is an antioxidant.

[C]

Nice. I love it.

[B]

Cheers to Dr. Drew and Momentary sobriety.

[C]

Yeah. I'm not in the program or anything.

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I just.

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I'm supporting my wife.

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I think that's wonderful.

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And by the way, it's a good. I've been really focused on health and wellness last couple of years, and I'm like, this is, of course, part of that has to be.

[B]

And you know, it's like. And I know that. And you're young enough.

[C]

You can still get away with.

[B]

No, but I don't like. I don't like drinking to the point where I never get hungover, but I hate feeling fuzzy and tired. Oh. And I'll ask you this.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So if I have more than four drinks, my neck goes out my C1. And I have asked a neurologist. I have asked several chiropractors. I have asked physical therapists, and it Only happens at that time. And when my neck goes out, it's like vomitus.

[C]

And is it. You wake up with it or does it have. Yeah. So I'm guessing it changes your sleep in some way.

[B]

Do you think it's positional? Yeah. Do you think like I sleep in.

[C]

A weird position, Something that you would normally move out of, you just stay. Something like that, I bet. And again, the muscles loosen from the alcohol and so that might release whatever was being held in place.

[B]

And then it goes into a bad.

[C]

Spot and it's not. Blood supply is not what it should be. It's just. It's just all, you know, it's all cascading. It's all bad system isn't what it should be. So. Yeah, I could see how that could affect you.

[B]

Yes. So what are you doing in addition to not drinking alcohol in your health and wellness journey?

[C]

I try to. I'm doing supplements of various. What kind?

[B]

Peptides.

[C]

No, I'm not done peptides though. I'm looking at that.

[B]

I still got some peptides.

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I don't know what to make of it. I don't know what to make of peptides yet. I'm a big believer in nicotinamide riboside. I'm a huge fan of these. It's elevates NAD on a daily basis. Rogan gets NAD infusion. Yes. Joe is my.

[B]

I know a bunch of friends, we all go to the same doctor and they get NAD shots once a week for eight weeks. And then you take time off and.

[C]

You don't have to do that. You just take nicotinamide riboside does the same thing.

[B]

Really.

[C]

In my humble opinion, I take C15, a pentadecanoic acid, which is good for. Again, it's all fighting oxidation associated with aging. Right. The oxidative, the nad, the cellular membranes all goes towards oxidative states. The way I talk about it is this. Look, entropy. People don't really. They may not have studied thermodynamics and the second law of thermodynamics.

[B]

Everyone knows the second law. No one knows.

[C]

The first in the physical universe is that entropy is always increasing. So the disorder of the universe is always expanding. It's why all the molecules in this room don't hover in the corner. All of a sudden they're always at maximal.

[B]

See, I feel like they're gossiping about me.

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I feel like they could be, but they still at a stage of Maxwell complexity. But that is true of all things in the universe, except one thing. For a brief moment, life is a more ordered state for a minute, and then it kind of keeps going again. And part of that. It's part of entropy reasserting itself, is oxidation.

[B]

Okay, that's very interesting. So I also talked to a friend who gets an infusion to lengthen her telomeres.

[C]

Yeah, I don't.

[B]

She said it's very expensive.

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I don't know what she's getting. And I don't know if the tumor telomere lengthening thing is causational or incidental or what it happens. And lengthening the telomere is probably a good thing, but exactly why it's happening is still mysterious.

[B]

Yes. So the Kelly brothers, the astronauts, one of whom is like a commie senator now.

[C]

A commie senator? Yeah, exactly like you said, a comedy senator. I. By the way, you know, I was in Europe until a few hours ago. Right. And so my brain is completely screwed up. So you. You're gonna. We're gonna do Gutfeld in a few minutes, you and I, and you're gonna support me. You're gonna make sure I make it through this afternoon.

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You're gonna be amazing.

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Thank you.

[B]

I believe in you.

[C]

By the way you've been doing My Wife and I look at every night you're on there, we just go, oh, my God. Kennedy is killing it.

[B]

Oh, that's so sweet.

[C]

Oh, my God. Some of the stuff you've been saying has been funny and entertaining, but just so insightful. And so I really appreciate that.

[B]

Is a testament to the show and the way it's set up.

[C]

I agree. But some people are either, you know how it goes. Part of our job is to make fun of Greg. Yes, right. And you do that. You sl there. And then some people are just funny that kind of miss. And that's great, but that is not really what you're there for. And a lot of people. It's hard to be funny and say something meaningful at the same time, and you do it every time.

[B]

So I was talking to a comic who does Gutfeld, and they were like, I prep all day long.

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Lisso.

[B]

I write all these jokes. It's not Lisso.

[C]

He does that too.

[B]

Yeah. And he's like, I, I, I. It wasn't Lisso. But he was like, I prep all day long. I write all these jokes. I've read all the stories. And then Greg asked me a completely different question, and if I answer with my material, it'll look so unnatural.

[C]

Yes, yes. But. But I gotta say, Jamie Lusso is very good at going, at sliding over to his Stuff and he just. And it's always hysterical.

[B]

And that is a talent.

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That is a talent. And that's, that's why I don't do too much prep for the show. Because Greg's always goes, Kennedy, do you think that he'll go like, Drew, you're a doctor supposedly. And do you think. And he'll just fill it with something that has nothing. And I usually to myself, well, I could answer that question, but maybe I'll answer a different one because, you know, it's usually about, you know, Bazumba Gate in Canada or something that he let that go. That was on every single time he did the show for about six months. Yeah.

[B]

Because the guy got fired. I mean, the guy should have gotten fired for fraud. Was he trolling in a way, but also like deeply mentally ill and grooming and like wanted to over sexualized dizzy.

[C]

Or was he just super pissed at some of the constraints he was under as a teacher?

[B]

That is, that's, you know, that's leaning into. That's borderline projection.

[C]

Okay. That's how I do it. I wouldn't be interested.

[B]

No, I think, I think you can't go that far unless on some level you're a sicko.

[C]

Yes, I agree with that. So thank you.

[B]

Yes.

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For calling me a sicko.

[B]

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[B]

So cold plunges.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

What do you think of cold plunges?

[C]

I mean, hormesis, that's cold. And cold plunges. You know, Adam and I have had long. Adam and I still do a podcast. For those of you Adam Corolla, remember the Adam Corolla days?

[B]

Not meaning to name drop, but hello.

[C]

Yes, Hi, Adam. He'll be pissed that we were together and I wasn't with him, so. But he and I have had many conversations about this and he has arrived at the idea that it doesn't even matter if there's a net health biological benefit per se. There's a psychological benefit of doing something so miserable and uncomfortable on a regular basis.

[B]

I love that.

[C]

And forcing yourself into it. And it does give you a shot of adrenaline. It wakes you up. Right.

[B]

Okay, So I always. So I love really hot showers. I love it. I live for it. And I always finish every Shower with two minutes of cold water.

[C]

I try to do that, too.

[B]

Yeah. Because I was talking to a cameraman in Alaska and he's like, I've studied aging for years. He's like, I've become obsessed with the idea of people who live over 100 and the ones who live still fruitful and productive lives. What are they doing? They said the only thing I can find cross culturally is cold showers or cold submersion.

[C]

That makes some sense. I have a couple things to say about that. One is there's all this preoccupation about the blue zones. I read an article recently that said, you know, most of these blue zones are just a bunch of people who lied on their birth date to be able to get their retirement benefits a lot sooner.

[B]

That's hysterical.

[C]

Isn't that funny? Yes.

[B]

But also they walk and have, like, Whole Foods. Like, because they don't have choices, they don't have processed.

[C]

I don't object to it. Right. They're advocating good things. And then the other thing, it occurs to me, I did a show called Special Forces that maybe Canada you ought to do.

[B]

Oh, my. That's real. I mean, that's like screwing around.

[C]

They are not. I ended up in the intensive care unit.

[A]

Oh, no.

[C]

In very short order, I can say. Say much like you could say words about your. What did you call your boyfriend?

[B]

Legal domestic partner.

[C]

Domestic partner. I can say something that almost. Well, I guess nobody in the world can say, jamie Lynn Spears saved my life. Wow. I can say that.

[B]

Yeah. I don't even think Britney could say that.

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No, no. Jamie Lynn. Jamie Lynn. I got encephalopathic and was getting confused and neurologically out of it. And she grabbed me and took to. Took me to the. The medical tab.

[B]

Oh, thank God. Was she lovely?

[C]

Lovely.

[B]

Were you able?

[C]

And weirdly, we were able to what.

[B]

Talk about her family trauma?

[C]

She talked about it during the show. I didn't. I wasn't interested. I was interested in kind of knowing her. And she was ten times lovelier than you could possibly imagine. Oh, good. And the weird thing. So my family has a place down in Laguna Beach, California. And next to this condo is this big resort called the Montage.

[B]

Oh, I love the Montage.

[C]

Okay, so we went over there.

[B]

I stayed at one in Mexico a few weeks ago.

[C]

Okay, well, this montage in Laguna is one of these. Kind of the original old school.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And. And we had been out of the desert where I did my special forces in the Jordanian desert. It was just brutal. And we'd been out about A week. And I came down to Laguna to sort of convalesce because I just got out of the hospital. And we went to the Montage and there is Jamie Lynn Spears and her kids and her husband and we spent the whole weekend with them. And her husband is also the greatest guy in the world. That's really nice trucking company and just a great guy.

[B]

I mean. But what I like about that is she doesn't feel the need to advertise it. That her life is her own.

[C]

She talks about being a mom only. That's what she's interested in.

[B]

Good for her.

[C]

I did not expect to talk about Jamie Spears today, but there it is. And this is anybody that wants to talk about her, really, you gotta examine yourself. Cause she's just. She has a crazy life with a sister. That's one of the most. She's said this. One of the most famous people on earth overnight.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Wild.

[B]

Yeah. And what fame does, and I know that you have seen this. What fame does to the people around the famous person is almost more insane.

[C]

Than what the famous person experiencely agree with you. Honey Boo Boo is out there talking about that now. Have you seen her?

[B]

No.

[C]

She's talking about what her mom did to her and her mom's addiction and stuff. And she's talking about it so dispassionately. It actually scares me. But good for her. She's talking about what it is to be in the public scrutiny as a young child. It has liabilities. It's not often typically not good. We did, you know, you have a show. Let me promote something I should please. Yes. I have a show on HBO Max called Hollywood Demons and we did a whole thing on child stars and looked into a bunch of them and ended up really bad. I thought a lot about it and talked to a lot of people about it. And there's so many layers of liability to it. It's not just being famous. It's also. Think about a production. When you go into a production and if you've got some weaknesses at home, your family becomes that little production.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

It really is a very tight knit community you become a part of. I, I remember when we used to do Loveline and MTV. We did it for what, five seasons or something. And I was 34 years old or something when we started that show. And it just ended one day and I, I didn't know what to. I was so stunning to me. I was like, you mean I'm not going to see this person? I'm not gonna see. What am I Supposed to do or Chelsea's not. It's not gonna be. It was just as an adult, it was like a sort of a shock to the system.

[B]

And you're a stable, rational adult.

[C]

Exactly.

[B]

Who studies, like, human physiology and psychology for a living. So you can hover over your own life and take it apart and try and make sense of it. But what about someone who is 14, codependent.

[C]

Codependent. Or 12, and was abandoned or physically abused or God knows what, or didn't have a dad or whatever, and all of a sudden they have a dad in this family system of the production. And maybe for years. Right. It can go for five, seven years, and then everybody goes, boom, gone. It's not good.

[B]

No. That's really interesting. I've never thought about that aspect of it, but when I went to therapy with Marsha Linehan in 1998, she was like. She's like, I don't have room for you. I've got a full slate. But she said, I've never interacted with someone who's famous. And she said, this is actually very interesting to me. I want to see what that did to your brain and how that. Like, how that added to your anxiety and post traumatic stress and things like that. And it was helpful to both of us. More so to me, because she changed my life.

[C]

I've had a lot of therapy. Still in therapy.

[B]

Good for you.

[C]

Yeah, Good. And. And. And part of it is there's a piece that you. You can't go anywhere else. You know what I mean? If you do have a public life, you got to talk. You got to take stuff somewhere where it's. You feel safe.

[B]

Yes. Truly safe. Because, you know, it's like, otherwise, you're living like a politician. Oh, tell me, what do you mean, just like.

[C]

Because I wouldn't want to do that.

[B]

No, but yet every. Every one.

[C]

Go ahead.

[B]

But you have to. You have to have a smile for them, because you never know when someone's gon. Man, I met that Kennedy from MTV and Fox News, and what a no it is. And it could be that you burned your tongue on Starbucks and you're in a bad mood.

[C]

That's right. And so I will model my life after Gavin Newsom. That's what I'll do.

[B]

Lie to everybody. Take advantage of the system for your own personal gain. And then when your problems fail the entire state, blame the voters.

[C]

The voters, the counties, the cities, and the federal government.

[B]

Absolutely.

[C]

Anybody but you. But, you know, the last time I saw Norm Donald, he told this great joke he was. He opened with it. He gets up there and he goes, I was there with Fred Stoller. Do you know Fred Stoller? I'm surprised. We've never been in sort of same circles with us. And they were both performing at the Ice House in Pasadena. Oh, yeah.

[B]

Legendary.

[C]

Yep. And Norm gets up and he goes, oh, man, I just. I just love Bill. Sorry, But I just love Bill Cosby. I love him. I just love this man. I fashion every. Everything I do, I fashion effort to Bill Cosby, except his comedy. Anyway, That was a great joke.

[B]

God rest his soul.

[C]

Yes, yes.

[B]

Oh, I, I. You know, it's like, I think of the people who you've known and lost and the people that you've treated and lost and.

[C]

Hey, I can't. I'm not comfortable talking about a lot of it, too. I mean, you and I could talk privately about it, but not. We lost somebody recently, too. I don't know if you're aware of this.

[B]

Jed. Yeah, Jed the fish, who was one of my mentors at kroc, and that guy. And I was telling someone, and I don't think it was on the podcast, like, he was the first person who taught me it's okay to be weird. Like, you can be weird as a broadcaster, and as long as you're passionate, like, people will connect with you. People will remember you.

[C]

Yeah, he was weird. Yeah, he had the crazy laugh.

[B]

The crazy laugh. And just, he had a bizarre way of looking at the world, because as you're first getting into broadcasting, you know, you want to be perfect like Katie Couric.

[C]

I know that's that. But that wasn't the era of broadcasting we were raised in.

[B]

Thank God.

[C]

By the way, who am I? I'm going to talk to a woman today who's covering the Diddy. I have a streaming show, by the way. I should do promotions called Ask Dr. Drew. You can stream it at Dr. Drew.com or else rumble, YouTube, whatever. But I'm interviewing a woman that's really studying the Diddy trial, and she was complaining about how so much of this stuff is outrageously, like, disgusting imagery and horrible sexual behaviors. And she goes. And nobody seems to have raised an eyebrow then. And I thought, oh, I think I contributed to that. I think Loveline, we started.

[B]

You desensitized.

[C]

I think we started. This is not at all what I intended, trust me. But I think we contributed to this mess we were in. It's an interesting thing to talk.

[B]

I gotta talk to his defense team, because the Loveline did it. Defense is one that I didn't see coming but might resonate with just one juror. That's all they need.

[C]

That's all they need.

[B]

All right, well do great on Gutfeld. Thank you for all of you.

[C]

You're there with me.

[B]

You're gonna support me and come by anytime.

[C]

I will.

[B]

The legendary Dr. Drew.

[C]

Thank you, guys.

[B]

What this man has seen, he can only talk about a fraction of it, but that is the most interesting fraction you will hear all day. This has been Kennedy spiritual world along with Dr. Drew. I'm Kennedy. Listen ad free with the Fox news podcast plus subscription on Apple podcasts and Amazon Prime. Members can listen to this show ad free on the Amazon music app. Oh, go ahead and leave me a review while you're there. I'd love to hear what you have to say. You've been listening to Kennedy saves the world on the Fox news podcast network.