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Welcome to this episode of Kennedy Saves the World. It's happy hour, and nothing makes me happier than talking with a cultural icon, George Santos. He is a former congressman from the state of New York who was replaced by Tom Suozzi. It's really sad.
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I need shots after that.
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Does it harm you that Tom Suozzi has your old job?
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He's my predecessor and my successor. It's just kind of annoying. I feel sandwiched.
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Yeah. I mean, that would have been somebody. That's how Joe Biden feels like he's sandwiched in between Trump. Who do you think has it harder, you or Joe Biden?
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A Joe Biden?
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Yeah.
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I mean, he up for the whole country to see and left the trail. I up for, like, you know, I guess for the whole country to see.
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Well, here's a Blue Hawaiian for you, George Sanderson.
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Well, this is so amazing. And it smells good.
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Be blue, but your heart never.
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Cheers. I'm kidnapping you.
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Oh, yeah. Isn't that good?
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Oh, that's so good.
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That's a good ratio.
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That is actually.
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That one.
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No, that's really good. I had a Kennedy cocktail. Do you know how much this means to me? I tell people this all the time. I know you from your first version of your career. I know Sean and Rachel from their first version of their career. But to share a cocktail with you, like, I got.
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Pimples, little chicken skin.
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I'm legit giddy right now.
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Yeah. I interviewed Rachel at MTV when she was on the Real World, and she was a total sweetheart. And then she and I both auditioned for the view in 2003, and that's when she had really emerged as a political voice, and neither of us got the job. Elizabeth Hasselbeck got it. And, you know, she was right for that part. I was. I just started ucla, so I had to finish college. But you.
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Some of us did.
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Did you not finish college? No. Volleyball scholarship money dried up. That's so sad. I'm surprised you didn't go pro.
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No, I didn't.
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If you could go back and change one moment in your life, what would it be?
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If I can go back and change one moment. A lot of people ask me that question, and I usually skid around it. But to be very honest, if I can go back in one point in my life, it would be to be more persistent with my mom's health. She was very lackadaisy with her health, and as a child, I never advocated. So my mom had not gone to the doctor prior to being diagnosed with cervical cancer 10 years 10 years without a pap smear. It's irresponsible, ladies. And I was a bad kid for not being on top of it. And I know a lot of people say, like, you would not.
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I think it's different for girls and boys because girls know the discomfort, but also the importance.
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Yeah.
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Of yearly screenings. And it's like if you're. If you're a guy, like, you probably don't want to talk about your.
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I feel like I should have known better and been more of an activist type son, because a lot would be different. I'd have her today. Maybe I wouldn't have done half the stupid in my life.
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Was she. Was she the one in your life who kind of kept you in the.
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Grounded. Yes. Completely.
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Like in the. The lane.
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Yeah. Like, don't know. No, that didn't happen. No, it didn't happen like that. Like. Like, she would definitely be my guiding stone sort of way. Sort of speak. And. And I. That's why I always go back to that because my mom still being here would have fixed a whole lot of the dumb stuff I've done myself.
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Did she think you were a fibber when you were a kid?
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No, not necessarily.
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What were you like as a kid now? Go ahead, say what. You say what you were going to say, and then I'll ask you.
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So my reputation prior to being called Jorge Santos the liar was. Jorge Santos is harsh, blunt. He's actually not kind because, like, people would look at me and ask me things. I'm like, no, it sucks. Like, how do I look? Horrible. Very abundantly, transparently blunt.
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You were like Joan Rivers.
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And you're the second person today that tells me that because I love Joan Rivers, I mirror my entire life off of Joan Rivers. Joan Rivers is still relevant to me today. And what, it's been 14 years she's died or something like that. I love that woman till this day. I still watch her stuff. I still keep her relevant in my life. And I thought that that was the best way to be. And no, I. I didn't have an issue telling the truth. And I still don't have an issue today. The issue is I got carried away really bad in politics, and it is the most embarrassing part of my life yet also the part that has allowed me to mature and create an abundance of sobriety for me to be like, okay, this is exactly how you get.
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I don't know if you have an abundance of sobriety.
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Not on alcohol, but I guess in life. Right. But that's kind of how that part happened. Right. But so that's. That's kind of.
A
No, that. That totally makes sense. And, you know, it's like your mom to have a parent like that who's so incredibly grounding. You don't realize you miss that until it's gone. And, you know, it's like. I feel like Tiger woods was the same way when his dad passed away. That's when he started kind of publicly kind of spiraling, plugging Hooers and whatnot. Tough racket.
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It's tough. I'll say that. It's tough.
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Yeah. What do you think of Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce? Because I spend a lot of time writing about them for the Daily Mail, and they're such a fascinating couple. Do you think their romance is real? Because half the people I talk to are like, it's totally fake.
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I think it's real.
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Okay.
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I think every. Every aspect of them is real. It's just annoying just because it annoys you.
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I love her.
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I love her. I'm.
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I had respect for him. I thought that he was like, you know, the typical all American, cute football player. You know, talented.
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He's very cute.
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Yeah, he's. He's adorable. But somehow seeing too much of them made me resent him more than her.
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I resent him because he became. There was that moment where he grabbed Andy, the coach during the game last year, and hands off Andy. Right? Like, he. The more you see of him, the less you like him. But overall, he's an all American boy. She's an all American girl. I love Taylor Swift. And as conservative as I am, I am a swifty God. I introduced an entire bill called a.
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Swift act because of her.
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Yes.
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Really?
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It was enacted on December 13.
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Did it have anything to do with her? What was totally.
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It was a women's rights issue. So it was advocating for women's rights, something that she's always been passionate about. And I called it the Swift Act. I don't remember what the acronym.
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Do it to try and flex for her. So she would call you back.
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Well, Nicki Minaj, I did the Minaj act and it worked. So I said, let's try Swift now.
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What is it called? Minaj. Antoine.
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It was just called the Minaj Act. Wow. And that was a. Did that pass that? None of them passed, but they did make splashes. How about that? People still talk about them.
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That's really funny. Why didn't you do the Save Britney Act?
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You see, by the time I got to Congress, she was already saying she was out of her conservatorship and I completely regret it.
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Do you wish that she was back in her conservative?
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I wish it was a hybrid. I love Britney Spears.
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I do too.
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I grew up on Britney. I mean, and oops, I did it again. So it's to see where she is.
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That what I think it is?
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Yeah.
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Like I thought the old lady dropped it in the ocean and went down and got it for you, baby.
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Aw, you shouldn't have. So when you look at Britney today, it's. Is she fine? Is she okay? I don't know.
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No, she's not okay.
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She's not okay.
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She's deeply troubled and it's really sad. And I love her. You know she's gonna harm herself. And you know, last I checked, she was shacking up with a help. You know, she bought this guy with seven kids a G wagon.
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She's dancing with knives.
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I know you're worried about the help.
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I screw the help before. How about that? Like, I mean, come on, some of us do that, right?
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That's right.
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But it's the knives for me. Like the help, like when I was young.
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I worry she's gonna hurt like Kanye. He's also very famous and very mentally ill. He takes women hostage and he's just turned into a horrible person.
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He's horrible.
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But Britney Spears, I think there's a sweet, innocent kid in there and she's so traumatized that she doesn't know what to do with the remains of her childhood.
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Was there innocence though? When did you see her on X Factor? Nothing about her being on that judge panel was innocent. I was just like, whoa, wait, is that Britney Spears? She would say some pretty rough criticism.
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I know, but in her defense, they do push you. They do to say that stuff. Nah, nah.
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So good.
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Oh, poor Britney. I do. I, I feel bad for her because I look at her and I, I worry she's gonna get to past the point of no return where she's not going to be able to perform. And she's going to be. She needs like Margot Kidder.
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She needs to perform.
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I agree.
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Because if not, she's going to be Courtney Love 2.0.
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Yeah, but Courtney still has money.
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I don't think Britney can go broke though.
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I don't know, man. You. You get the wrong guy in there.
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That's true.
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You can blow through.
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I mean, Kay Feather line tried.
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Yeah. You, you have a shoe fetish. You know how easy it is to spend.
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It is. She's talking about my 280 pair shoe collection.
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I mean, that's Amazing for a guy.
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It's throughout the years, though. We're talking 15 years in the making.
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Yeah. Some of them still in boxes.
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Yes. Which you can imagine. So it doesn't matter if I ever. If I move into a two, three, four bedroom. You always minus one bedroom because it's all shoes. Wow. Every time I go into a. Any place I go, you always minus one bedroom for the space because of the shoes.
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Did you go broke defending yourself? I did, yeah, totally. Did you look at the shoes and sort of regret that that's where you spent your money? No. Do you just snuggle them at night?
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No, it's not that.
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Foreclosure is nothing if you have Ferragamos.
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Ferragamos. By drug of choice. Look, I totally went broken and. And still trying to claw out of that hole. Right. When you're spending hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees and it's insane. And then I was out of a job, and it was just like everything came all together. But it's not like I, at one determined point, went and dropped and fabricated having that many shoes. This is a labor of love of over a decade. It's a curation. It's like collections. There's collections that Ferragamo comes out with. I won't buy a single shoe because I think they're all hideous. And then there's collections that I got to buy the whole thing. No, no. I think the most in one collection, I think I did, like, 12.
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That's amazing.
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And it was hard.
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Like, I'm impressed.
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I was impressed myself, but they were just so good. That's when they had the new designer come in and change from Salvatore.
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It always happens.
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And, yeah, it's. It's. I avoid other stores these days, though.
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How do you. How do you make money now?
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Cameo.
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And do you make enough?
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Enough whatever. Enough, Right. Like, we live in New York City. It's never enough. I have debt, so it's Cameo. I do a lot of appearances, and I do a lot of collaborations for docs and stuff. So it's very much media. I'm no longer in the financial industry, which I used to do very well. I'm no longer in politics and just trying to figure out my life in a media world, which is also in the middle of a transformation. Right. Cable news is facing severe challenges, so there's not like, any big contracts going around.
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Like, people. People are cutting cords, and generationally, you know, it's like millennials and gen zers are shifting faster than anyone could have imagined. Yeah. And it's all about, you know, it's like how do I stay nimble? Like how do I evolve, how do I keep up? How do I give the world what they want to see that I can.
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Actually offer Pants on Fire with Jorge Santos every Sunday. That's what I give. It's my podcast. I'm trying like we're building something really cool up. Love to have you if you can. It's, it's that thing that you need to work and it's a constant grind. I'm not afraid of working. I wake up day around 7am and I won't go to bed until probably midnight one sometimes and it's, it's not because I'm procrastinating. I'm working. Yeah, it's, I'm writing for a newspaper, the South Shore Press out on Long Island. I'm contributing with the cable news all, all across. I'm doing podcasts. I just came back from a trip from Atlanta where I recorded with Ray Daniels, pretty notorious music exec producer, has his own podcast down there. So I'm, I keep busy and it's a big part of like my day to day.
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Do you find people are forgiving? Do you feel the need to apologize to them?
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I genuinely start off with saying I'm so sorry if I ever caused you any harm or if I gave you a headache. Because I think it's like, like I joked when I first said I saw your sweater. I'm like, I know that sweater. She handed me my butt on wearing that sweater.
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So that is the only thing I've ever done that's gone viral on TikTok. So my girls don't watch Fox News. They never watched my Fox Business show. They have never, they don't. I don't think they even know that I have a five day a week podcast, which is fine, but that is the one thing that they've seen and they show me it like every once in a while it'll just pop up.
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And do the rounds cycles. It's cycling now. That's like. It's doing its rounds now because of the whole banana comment. So it's. Look, it's funny. It was a great.
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Do you have an OnlyFans account now?
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I did for a brief amount of time last year. Did you butt stuff on it? No, I did got stuff.
A
What do you do on Only Fans? Does everyone, like. I just imagine everyone shoving things up their butt on Only Fans.
B
Totally not the case.
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And that's why it scares me because I, that's not where I want to end up.
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So. So I was on there dishing out, like, gossipy stuff so something like you would see people do on Substack. But I did it for the outrage. And it does create that injection of cash. Right. Like George Santos on Only Fans. I wonder. But after two months of, of, let's just say, solicitations, that just got to a point that I just could not bring myself to continuously do it. Yeah, I'm sort of a prude in a very odd way. Despite being a gay man. I'm a little bit of a prudent. It just got to me and I said, this is.
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See, I'm not a bigot. I don't think just because you're gay means you're, like, hypersexualized.
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Everybody does, though. You're, you're.
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Everyone thinks that. Yeah.
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They don't know enough gays that they don't.
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I know some really boring gays.
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I am a boring gay.
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I. And I, I love. I, I, I know. Like so many of my friends, they, they run the gamut. Yeah. Like, I'm, I'm, I'm proud to engage in the spectrum of gayness.
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No, no. Gayness is so fun. It's. Yeah, I'm happy. Right. Yeah. That's where, where the, it comes from. But, yeah, I'm not that.
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What do you think about biological males competing in women's sports? I'm sure people ask you about that all the time.
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Garbage.
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So most of the gay men I know, because I happen to know a lot of conservative gays. They're like, this shouldn't be happening.
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No, look, there's a story happening right now that I'm reporting. I broke the story. Can you imagine? I go. That the media took down to now breaking stories. And the media calling me like, oh, we're going to have to mention. Can you just give us a little background? Like, dude, it's in the story. Just mention the paper. So I just broke a story for the South Shore Press out on Long island, that William Floyd High School in Suffolk county is allowing one trans male student to compete with females in their varsity track and field. Which, by the way, are you kidding? But to add insult to injury upon like doing the investigation and getting all the information, this is a 14 year old in full blown puberty bore. Puberty male that only socially identifies as a female. No real attributes, no real efforts other than I socially think I'm a girl and now I'm going to compete in this sport.
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But what a racket though, because you could get into. Because of the way colleges are now. Like if, if you play the trans card, like you can get it anywhere. Like you can have a crappy GPA and be like, I tried so hard.
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Yeah. Like pull the Paris Hilton voice out and it works, right?
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Like, so hot.
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It's so hot.
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Like I'm competing against women. It's so hot.
B
That's hot.
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That's so hot. I don't wear mini skirts because they're gross.
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That's actually really good. So. So that's kind of like my, my positioning has always been that. And, and then the gays. Look, imagine being gay and conservative, right? In this city, being gay, conservative and oh, by the way, you're George Sanchez. I can't go to a gay bar. I haven't been to a gay bar since the story.
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Because people are mean.
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I think they'll torch me. The thought of it, like there's this bar here in the city industry I won't dare ever go. And my husband and I like going there like from time to time.
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Yeah.
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Haven't been there ever since. We're scared.
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Yeah.
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They're either gonna torch me or poison me. So I don't know.
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It's like being a cop. Yeah. And going into certain establishments like, like being a coffee. You can go to cop restaurants and cop bars. But yeah, I know a lot of conservative gays. Like that's, that's everyone I brunch with.
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Yeah. Good. Where are you guys brunching? I'll crash my house, whatever.
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Actually make a lovely, lovely brunch.
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Do you?
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It's my favorite meal. I love brunch. I love, I love. So good working out.
B
Like avocado toast.
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Massive workout. Why? I'm gluten free.
B
Okay.
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So it has to be gluten free bread. But I. My avocado toast, I like with poached eggs and sometimes with salmon.
B
Thank you.
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Yes.
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Salmon. Good, Good salmon. I like it all. I love. I, I just, I like food.
A
Yeah, me too. I love Feeding people.
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It's so good. It's my language of love is cooking. I love hosting.
A
So you think you'll run for office again?
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No, not because I can't. Just. I don't want to.
A
Yeah.
B
I don't like the restrictions around it. I mean, will I participate in government in some capacity? Sure. I mean, if a president were ever asked me to serve, sure. But putting my name on a ballot, I can't bring myself to do it.
A
Does anyone from Congress still talk to you?
B
Many. Oh, good. I always feel, like, weird putting them on the spotlight, but I don't think they ever cared. But I never stopped talking to the same people. Corey Mills, Lauren Boeber, Anna Luna. I'm supporting Anna with her motivation.
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JFK stuff.
B
Not just the JFK stuff, but with her maneuvering. Last week, where she. Well, this week, pardon me, where she put the speaker, like, in a position where he ran away. He took his ball off the court and went home because he couldn't handle a little heat from one little congresswoman.
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I mean, she's impressive. I like her.
B
I love her.
A
I prefer her sort of preening over Marjorie Taylor Greene.
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You see, Marjorie's a friend, and I adore Marjorie, but Marjorie's an acquired taste. Yeah, I happen to like that taste, but I know it's not for everybody. You know, I like the spiciness. My last video, my last action in Congress, was essentially me doing a video outside of her office. And it's her sign that says, trust the science to genders. And it's just me, literally, like, almost in a Pee Wee Herman, like, outfit. And I'm like, boys and girls, Trust the science. 2 genders. 21 million views. So it's like, you can't make it up.
A
That's funny. And that doesn't surprise me that Lauren Boebert is a fruit fly.
B
She's totally a. Are you kidding? Are you joking? Like, I love that woman. I mean, you have no idea the conversations we have. Obviously, she's young. Nobody realizes this. She's my age. We're the same age. We're both 37.
A
I mean, she's hot, too.
B
And she's hot, too. Like, gays love hot girlfriends, of course, you know, So I love Lauren.
A
They admire an aesthetic.
B
Yeah, of course. And when her picture in a bikini leaked, I was just so mad that I didn't know she had that massive tattoo on her entire rib cage. I'm like, why did you never show me the tattoo? She's like, yeah, let me strip and show you myself naked. But I love her. I genuinely love her. She's a good person.
A
Well, I will. I'll continue to see you on Gutfeld. Thank you for stopping by and talking.
B
Absolutely.
A
Like, people are so intrigued by you. Some people are really mad and some people are deeply curious. So I'm glad we got to sit and have a conversation.
B
I'm so glad we. I got to try your drink. You have no idea how much you made my year.
A
Oh, thank you. To you once again, Georgetown.
B
Cheers to you. Thank you.
A
To you, forgiveness, redemption and tiki drinks.
B
Amen.
A
This has been Kennedy Saves the World along with George Santos. I'm Kennedy. Listen ad free with a Fox News podcast plus subscription on Apple podcasts and Amazon Prime. Members can listen to this show ad free on the Amazon music app. Oh, go ahead and leave me a review while you're there. I'd love to hear what you have to say. You've been listening to Kennedy Saves the World on the Fox News podcast network.
Date: December 17, 2025
Host: Kennedy (FOX News Podcasts)
Guest: George Santos, former Congressman from New York
This episode offers an unfiltered, humorous, and at times poignant look into the life of George Santos—a figure both lauded and lambasted for his controversial tenure in Congress and the scandals that followed. Through rapid-fire banter, personal confessions, and cultural commentary, Kennedy and Santos discuss politics, pop culture, cancel culture, and Santos's search for redemption. The conversation is equal parts light-hearted and introspective, filled with wit, candor, and a touch of cheeky self-deprecation.
Transition Out of Politics:
Regrets & Personal Growth:
“If I can go back in one point in my life, it would be to be more persistent with my mom’s health… She went 10 years without a pap smear. It’s irresponsible, ladies.”
—George Santos [02:13]
Pre-scandal Personality:
“My reputation prior to being called Jorge Santos the liar was... harsh, blunt. I’m actually not kind...I’m abundantly, transparently blunt.”
—George Santos [03:37]
Reflection on Lying:
“The issue is I got carried away really bad in politics, and it is the most embarrassing part of my life…”
—George Santos [03:57]
Taylor Swift & Travis Kelce:
“I think every aspect of them is real. It’s just annoying…”
—George Santos [05:38]
Legislative Humor:
Britney Spears’ Troubles:
“She’s not okay... she’s deeply troubled and it’s really sad. And I love her.”
—Kennedy [07:36]
Spiraling Finances:
“I totally went broke and... still trying to claw out of that hole. When you’re spending hundreds of thousands in legal fees... everything came all together.”
—George Santos [09:59]
Current Income Streams:
Public Perception & Apologies:
“I genuinely start off with saying I’m so sorry if I ever caused you any harm or if I gave you a headache.”
—George Santos [13:10]
OnlyFans Experience:
“After two months of...let’s just say, solicitations, that just got to a point that I just could not bring myself to continuously do it. Yeah, I’m sort of a prude in a very odd way.”
—George Santos [14:10]
Trans Athletes in Sports:
“Garbage.”
—George Santos [15:15]
Challenges as a Conservative Gay Figure:
“Marjorie’s an acquired taste... I know it’s not for everybody. I like the spiciness.”
—George Santos [19:00]
“He’s my predecessor and my successor. It’s just kind of annoying. I feel sandwiched.”
—George Santos, on losing his seat to Tom Suozzi [00:28]
“I mirror my entire life off of Joan Rivers. Joan Rivers is still relevant to me today.”
—George Santos [03:58]
“The issue is I got carried away really bad in politics, and it is the most embarrassing part of my life yet also the part that has allowed me to mature...”
—George Santos [03:57]
“I love Taylor Swift. And as conservative as I am, I am a Swifty God.”
—George Santos [06:01]
“Foreclosure is nothing if you have Ferragamos.”
—Kennedy [09:53]
“I haven’t been to a gay bar since the story. I think they’ll torch me...We’re scared.”
—George Santos, on community backlash [16:59]
“Will I participate in government in some capacity? Sure...But putting my name on a ballot, I can’t bring myself to do it.”
—George Santos [18:08]
“Marjorie’s an acquired taste...I like the spiciness.”
—George Santos [19:00]
“Cheers to you. Thank you...To you, forgiveness, redemption, and tiki drinks.”
—Kennedy & George Santos [20:29]
| Timestamp | Segment / Topic | |-------------|---------------------------------------------| | 00:10–02:12 | Opening banter, Congress career, regrets | | 03:06–03:57 | Reputation for blunt honesty | | 05:21–07:09 | Taylor Swift/Kelce, “Swift Act”, pop bills | | 07:22–09:13 | Britney Spears, celebrity troubles, shoes | | 09:59–10:53 | Legal bills, financial hardship, Cameo | | 13:05–14:10 | Public apologies, viral sweater, OnlyFans | | 15:09–16:37 | Trans athletes, conservatism, gay identity | | 18:08–20:29 | Running again, friends in Congress, closing |
The conversation is breezy, irreverent, and confessional—marked by Kennedy’s quick wit and George Santos’s dry humor and candid self-awareness. Both speakers oscillate between joking about cultural phenomena and discussing real struggles, giving listeners a multi-faceted portrait of public redemption and private reckoning.
Listeners are given a rare, behind-the-scenes view of a notorious political figure navigating cancel culture, pop-culture obsessions, the pitfalls of fame, and attempts to rebuild. The episode delivers laughs, empathy, and insight into the resilience and reinvention—regardless of public opinion.
For those who want to hear straight from the source, notable soundbites and vulnerable admissions are worth revisiting, especially Santos’s reflections on honesty, loss, and the double-edged sword of notoriety.