B (2:11)

Is Joe conscious sleeping on a stool also in your home studio that we can't see.

A (2:16)

If you go to a wide shot now, it's just Lucy, Lucy. Lucy's just waiting to get fur and makeup so she could be on camera.

B (2:25)

Little mow and blow. I'm still waiting, and I've been through it, and I'm still like, so, Jimmy, how was your weekend? How. How did the events of Minneapolis unfold into your life and world.

A (2:40)

Well, okay, so Saturday night, our show, which would traditionally air at 10, we usually come on at 10, and the network issues an apology around 11. Okay? But this particular weekend, because of the ongoing coverage, we were delayed an hour. We came on at 11, and I'm sure the apology went out sometime around 12. But the point is, for me, it was a delayed show, but I watched the same chaos everybody else did as a comic, like, in these situations, this is when I want to be on TV because, like, I'm a guy trying to lower the temperature, like, genuinely. Uh, so I always want, you know, comedy to be out there because a lot of people need the off ramp, you know, because there's obviously this really toxic divide in our country right now. And, you know, the ability to laugh at things, I think sometimes humanizes disagreement in a way that debate doesn't. You know what I'm saying? Because there's no nuance to any of this right now. It's like, we could watch the video and go, yeah, that guy should be alive. And we could all agree on that. It's a horrible tragedy. But there's so many more contributing factors to this just the same, you know, if we're talking about local law enforcement giving them a security perimeter, you know, but there's, again, there's fault everywhere. I don't like a lot of the rhetoric on the right side of this either.

B (3:56)

All right? So one of the things that I always look for is, you know, what. What are the two sides accusing each other of? And if they're accusing each other of the same thing, they're either guilty of the same thing, or they both really want the same thing. And I'm trying to figure out what's happening here, because both sides are saying, Trump created this environment, Trump created this chaos. It's his fault that people are taking to the streets and getting shot and killed. And then you have people on the right saying, it's Tim Walls, it's Jacob Fry. They're fomenting the whole thing. They want it to be this chaotic. So if both sides are accusing the other of sowing this sort of discord and chaos, what is really happening?

A (4:43)

I mean, I think the in between is the National Holocaust Museum just rebuked Waltz for trying to compare this to Anne Frank. I think there is two things going on here, okay? I think Trump ran on. This is a signature issue of his campaign, that they were going to deport people, they were going to secure the border, they were going to use the same people Obama did, meaning Tom Homan. But when Obama was breaking, making deportation records, don't forget, I mean, Obama was the Pete Rose of deportations. You know, he was the all time hit king. He didn't get outed for gambling on it. I don't have any proof that that happened. But the truth is, what the Democrats do a lot of, and this is a frustration is they will manufacture hysteria in opposition to something they don't like. And then when it goes sideways, it's like, well, look how chaotic the streets are under Trump. This is why you got to elect us. So they're essentially arsonists who, hoping you'll pay them to put out their own fire, reward us for the chaos.

B (5:41)

That's a good one. That is, that is a very explicit and apt image that you paint for us.

A (5:49)

Well, that's what I feel like is going on to that extent. I feel like on the Trump side, though, the fact that he's now sending Tom Holman out there to get this under control, because Homan in a lot of ways is the adult in the room. He served under multiple presidents.

B (6:01)

He's also been the voice of moderation, which is not what people assume the role he would inhabit in the second Trump administration.

A (6:10)

Amen.

B (6:11)

You know, he's done this job and he's been the guy all along going, which you know, is shocking for a lot of people who just assumed that he was going to be the hardest, core, strictest, deport them all person in the federal government, when really he is. No, let's just take out the bad people and, you know, take the political win, make cities safer and not be too heavy handed.

A (6:40)

Yep. And I think the fact that we've now had two of these incidents go down, and in both of them, Holman's rhetoric was not squared up with, say, Kristi Noem, who in both incidents tried to describe the person as a domestic terrorist that was there to kill everybody.

B (6:57)

So unnecessary and so verifiably. Yeah. And it's like, and, and I see Democrats doing this all the time. Like they make these grand claims and all you have to do is look at the footage and you, you'll see the truth and they're not telling you the truth. And there was no reason for her and Cash Patel to go out there and be like domestic terrorists. I mean, the guy was there to commit mass murder. It's like, come on.

A (7:23)

No, no. And that, but that's the point is there's nuance to all of this and unfortunately, the news cycle very rarely rewards it. Tom Holman to his credit, I think, sees the humanity of this issue and it looms larger for him than the politics of this issue. You know, I've heard him say that on my show and probably a million other shows that he's been on is, you know, people look at border security through this lens of Republican policy or Democrat policy. He's like, I look at it through the lens of, I've held dead kids who were trafficked into the country. I, I've opened up tractor trailers where 53 people suffocated. You know, I've seen the rapes, I've seen the sex trafficking. And that's where his head is at when it comes to this issue. And the sad reality is for a long time in our politics, we all agreed on this. Like I was playing clips on the radio today, Hillary Clinton running for president in 2016.

B (8:13)

I'm so glad you brought that up.

A (8:15)

If a child comes across the border, they have to go immediately because we can't send the message and encourage more of behavior that's not in line with our actual policies in this country. And that wasn't a deal breaker. That was enough to get her a nomination and a balloon drop.

B (8:34)

So. So I don't know if this has already been a game on your show on Fox News Saturday night, you have a game segment every week. And if you took some of her quotes from 2016 and some of Obama's from 2013 and compared them to Trump's, I think you have really hard time differentiating the author of those quotes because they all sound essentially identical when they're talking about deportation and immigration.

A (9:02)

Can I tell you something? You might have just saved Christmas on this issue because I want to do something like that. We have not done that game. You know what we did this week? We played a dating game. It was called lady and the Trump. And we had, we played clips of angry white ladies protesting ice and we made a comedian decide which one he should date based on, on what went on. But I love this cuz we were doing this on radio today. I was saying to Wesley Hunt, I was saying if we put you in a voice changer, everything you're saying could have been an Obama policy, a Clinton policy, another Clinton policy, and that's the part I hate.

B (9:40)

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A (9:49)

A listening experience that will provide hope, comfort and understanding of the greatest story ever. And follow now@foxnewsodcasts.com or wherever you listen to podcasts, I can concede that I don't like Chris, what Kristi Noem is doing at all.

B (10:01)

Amen.

A (10:02)

Okay.

B (10:02)

I think she is. Her positions are indefensible. And I think that she has to, you know, in order to save any shred of dignity she might have left, she has to resign.

A (10:15)

Honestly, I don't doubt that she's on the outs because if this is a losing position for Trump, Okay. And the messaging war right now is not good for Republicans, even if we think the Democrats manufactured all this chaos, the fact remains, if you've got Kristi Noem out there in a cowboy hat getting up to the podium in the immediate aftermath of a shooting and basing all of our commentary on what's probably going to get likes from the most hardest right wing Twitter users, you're going to alienate a lot of people, even good Republicans.

B (10:42)

Yeah. And the Trump's coalition is a fragile one. And this is the kind of thing that just creates a chasm in, you know, former believers who are not going to vote with the other team because they don't like what they're seeing. And that's the midterms are all about. It's about a big reset for people who may, because of her comments and ineptitude, may have buyer's remorse. I think the president sees that and she's trying to paint it as. I love Tom Homan. He's just one of my greatest allies. I love having him as part of the team. It's like, lady, he's, he's now the coach. And you are? Matt LaFleur.

A (11:20)

He was, Tom Holman was the guy on, on our television sets after the Renee Goode incident saying, we shouldn't rush to judgment.

B (11:28)

There should be an investigation. Yes.

A (11:30)

Meanwhile, Kristi Noem is on the ground singing Kill Them all by Metallica, you know, saying, these are all terrorists. These are the worst people. And there's, it's obviously not that. And I think that's the challenge. And the one thing she should be mindful of, and one thing I don't doubt Trump is mindful of, is traditionally when something happens that's really unpopular for a president, traditionally he can put some distance between himself and the unpopular thing by firing somebody and making them the face of the ineptitude. It's what Biden should have did after Afghanistan. If you would have fired a general, he could have come on TV and remained credible and said, hey, this isn't who we are. This isn't what we do. This isn't acceptable. I'm firing General Milley and we move on. But politicians are so scared to admit fault in this day and age. I mean, Trump's the one guy that kind of can barrel through anything. Not that he's admitted ever admitting.

B (12:21)

I mean, he already, he already called Tim Walls and said it was a good conversation. Walls, he said, was relieved. Homan's going in. He wants to save political face. He wants success in the midterms. And this is the kind of thing that just completely turfs the agenda. And I, you know, I have heard that he is aware of that and he is weighing it. And it's not going to end well politically for Kristi Noem, nor should it. She has put herself above the administration so many times that I would be shocked if the President didn't see that and said, thank you. Next, I'm Ariana Grande and I'm moving on. We gotta let you go, Jim.

A (13:06)

I know. I'm sad about it, but you know who's nonplussed? My cat.

B (13:11)

No, I thought that was.

A (13:12)

Yeah, losing. It's not Daisy. Daisy's dead. Jimmy's hallucinating now. Daisy's long gone.

B (13:18)

Jimmy is our Joe Biden, he's saying, giving shout outs to dead cats.

A (13:23)

Jackie is Jackie.

B (13:27)

And on that uplifting note, the Zasbin Kennedy Saves the World along with Jimmy Thayla. I'm Kennedy. Listen. Ad free. With a Fox News podcast plus subscription on Apple Podcasts and Amazon prime, members can listen to this show ad free on the Amazon music app. Oh, go ahead and leave me a review while you're there. I'd love to hear what you have to say. You've been listening to Kennedy Saves the World on the Fox News podcast Network.