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A
Hello and welcome to this episode of Kennedy Saves the World. I'm so excited. Julia Michaels is back because there is so much government nutrition news that we are hearing from the Health and human services secretary, RFK Jr. Yeah, I know that, that you have been in an informal advisory role and certainly an advocate.
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B
An advocate?
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A
Yes, yes. An advocate of, you know, looking, taking a deep look at our diets because I think the personal responsibility that we all have for the most intimate relationship we have with what we put into our bodies, that is something, it's never fun. It's, it's the last avenue that people want to go down. They, they want to blame everything in the external world for how they look and feel, but really it is the choices that we make. But wouldn't you argue that the choices that we are able to make now are better than what we've had in decades or certainly in our lifetime?
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B
You make a great point. So the reality is that this is a problem caused by a myriad of issues greatly exacerbated by big Ag, big food, big Pharma and big insurance. To illustrate this point for you, if we went Back to the 1970s, only 5% of American adults were obese or overweight. Now it's 74%. So it's not genetics. You didn't have a quantum leap in genetics over the last friggin five decades. And it's not that 74% of our adult population is weak, lazy, pathetic and incapable. It is the ways in which the system has been rigged, rigged against everyday Americans. And I can outline that for you. It's not to say you are the consummate victim. It's not to say you don't need to take agency.
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A
You do.
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B
In fact, that's the ultimate act of rebellion. But they make it exceptionally difficult on purpose. And so having a little help so that they can't do that will go a long way. And that's what Kennedy is trying to do. And that's what you're seeing with the food pyramid change.
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A
Yeah. So explain that. Because, you know, for so long the, the pyramid was balanced and then the suggestion was you have 75,000 servings of bread and for celiacs like, we do not appreciate that. And you, you hate our small intestines. Big government hates small intestines. I'll say it. And then eventually you, you get to the top and you're supposed to eat, you know, just a, a crumb chicken breast. Yes, and maybe a bean. But the rest of it should be baguettes and croissants.
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B
Ultra processed foods, sugars, added sugars. So the long story short is that many people think of the food pyramid as some sort of instruction for them. It's not.
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A
What was it? What was it intended to be?
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B
It is the most nefarious piece of legislation regarding diet. That is a business plan, not nutrition instruction. It guides.
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A
So we're like the wheat growers lobbying the federal government.
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B
Wheat growers, soybean growers, Corn Refiners Association. So they lobbied the usda, they captured this document, and they captured subsequently the flow of hundreds of billions in tax subsidies that the food pyramid directs, that our tax dollars. So in other words, the food pyramid is what supplies kids with public school lunches, feeds our military, and directs SNAP women and children. So food assistance. Hence the reason we're subsidizing all of these things, right? We're paying for our military's food, we're paying for our kids food. But these guys went like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on. How much money is going? How big is this pool? Oh, we gotta get in there. And Kennedy is tackling this in a myriad of ways, like trying to remove things like soda and sugar and chips and stuff from snap. They're trying to improve food deserts. I don't know if you just saw.
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A
There are food deserts. I mean, we, we have to acknowledge that there are parts of the country. New York City is not one of them. And that is well established. New York City has an embarrassment of riches in terms of grocery stores and, and choices. Well, you can go to the poorest parts of the city and, and it is essentially the same thing. But there are parts of the country where you have to drive 30 miles to a grocery store with healthy choices.
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B
It's, you're right, Dismal. You're right. And, and what they're trying to do. Brooke Rollins, who runs the usda, just said, we're now going to mandate that these places that supply have, take EBT cards, that they have these healthier foods on our food pyramid. So they're trying to hit this from all angles, right? It's like, let's remove some of the crap from food assistance. Let's demand that we get healthier foods more accessible to the people. Let's fund healthier food so that our kids are being fed better stuff. Our military is being fed better stuff.
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A
Pregnant moms are being fed better stuff. I mean, that is, that's really, really critical. Like, I'm a, I'm a huge advocate of prenatal nutrition. I don't want the federal government to force pregnant women to eat a certain way. But wherever there are women who in the past have not been given good information, I want them to be able to access wonderful information about how important it is to eat a variety of fruits and vegetables and lean protein when you are pregnant.
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B
Oh, absolutely, unquestionably. And the one thing I'll say about the federal government is, you know, a lot of people are like, ugh, big government.
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A
Ugh.
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B
You know, regulation.
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A
Ugh.
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B
And I'm one of those people. I understand. So, so, so let me simply say that big food companies don't agree with you. Big ag companies don't agree with you. Monsanto, Cargill, ConAgra, Kraft. These companies don't agree. They see huge benefit to big government intervention and they pay big money for it. We want our government to work for us, not against us. So that's where I would say we're being a little bit.
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A
Typically, the best way to do that is to get the government out of the way.
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B
You can't really though, and I'll give you an example, if you get them fully out of the way, then you're allowing these guys to put whatever they want in your water, in your food, in your beauty products and your cleaning products that all, again, go back into the water. You gotta regulate them to a certain extent. It's the fact that they haven't been regulated.
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A
Well, no, they've been paying for access. So what happens like in California, the unions donate to the politicians, and then the politicians write laws that are beneficial to the unions.
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B
Of course.
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A
So it's the same thing with these, you know, massive agricultural behemoths. They subsidize the federal government and then they enjoy the, the riches that the federal government and the access that the federal, Federal government allows them.
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B
Yes.
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A
So how does the federal government have incentive to block them out? They don't.
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B
And, and that's where you need a true believer. That's the thing with Kennedy. He's a, he's a true believer. He's in. He's in ideologue in the best possible way. And you see him struggle. You know, there, there are criticisms of, like, why is glyphosate allowed? And it, it shouldn't be allowed. There's definitely a game.
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A
Explain what that is, man.
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B
So glyphosate is a particularly poisonous pesticide that they don't just put on our food to kill bugs, but it also dries out the crops. And it's, it's a whole thing. It one chemical of many. But these pesticides Herbicides, fungicides, many of them tie back to chemical warfare like Agent Orange. Same companies, you know, repurposing these things. And the reality is like you should not be able to, you can't, you can't put poison on the food. No, no, that, that should be regulated. And so not only is it subsidized, hence capturing the government. Right. Opening up this treasure chest. But things like the grass rule, the generally recognized as safe rule just allows big food to go. Yeah, that chemical, 571-4325, it's safe.
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A
Do they use as as many pesticides and preservatives in their grains in Europe? Like why do people go to Europe and feel better when they eat pasta? No. Is it because they're walking around? It's, it's, it's working things through? Yeah. No. Watching Netflix? No.
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B
I mean maybe that could play a part. Maybe that's like a fourth pillar that I, I haven't thought about. But first thing is, let's think about the grains. They're all genetically engineered. So if you took a red rose and a white rose, These things have a genetic history, right. And you, you breed them or whatever botanists would do, whatever the right word is, you cross pollinate, I guess you get a pink rose. That's normal. So that's, that's actually what genetically modified means.
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A
I mean that's what Gregor Mendel was, his pea pods, he was genetically modifying.
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B
Them, genetically engineering food. And that's what we're actually doing is when you take the gene of let's say a jellyfish and you put it into a tomato. These things sexy.
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A
I hear that's what they use for implants.
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B
I wouldn't know. But the point being is we have no idea what this looks like on long term health. The kind of grain you're dealing with here.
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Something is wrong because that's step one and then keep going with the chemicals. I think it's like, I think it's multi pronged.
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B
It is, I really do.
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A
Like, I mean I think there is something to EMFs breaking down our tissue. I think there, there is something to like pollutants in the air creating inflammation. I think it is our addiction to sugar that is exacerbating all of it. Like it's so many things. Plus we're on screens and we're sedentary.
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B
It is all of it. You're right. It's the cumulative effect of all of toxins. The body simply cannot detoxify at a quick enough pace. It's heavy metals in our water. It goes on and on and on and on. You can become Howard Hughesian about it, but I mean just the grains have several more steps. So a lot of the chemicals we spray on them are illegal in the eu. You know the stuff we add to those products, a lot of it is illegal in the eu. So it just, it's, it's like this snowball effect where we could use a little bit of like that you can't do here.
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A
So what should people do? Because when I stopped eating gluten when I was diagnosed with celiac, my brain fog lifted and I didn't realize how bad it was until I went on a fully gluten free diet, which was a medical necessity. But I hear the same thing from so many people. But it's not just grains that contain gluten. There are so many people who talk about, you know, going grain free allows their brains to once again flourish. And you know, it makes you sad because you don't realize that you were working at such a disadvantage for so long. Yeah. So I mean if, if people want to make a change, should they go grain free?
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B
I wouldn't recommend that necessarily. Here, here's what I would recommend. Off the top are the big rocks. So what are those? Number one. First, eat less food. Because inherently when you eat less food, you are going to limit the toxins. The food pyramid, for example, suggests 2,000 calories a day. I'd say for, you know, from maintenance mode. If you're active, sure, if you're trying to lose weight, you're going to need to eat a little bit less. But contain the amount of food you eat that is important. You can have unlimited greens, that's fine. But the rest of it, you shouldn't overeat.
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A
So how do you do that without getting hungry? Because that's the thing that, like that gnawing like that's what drives people crazy. And that's, that's when they, yo yo is like they do fine for a little while and then they get so hungry because they deprive themselves. Well, like going into caloric deficit doesn't necessarily mean depriving yourself of nutrients.
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B
No, you shouldn't enjoy. When you, when you eat real food, that should help naturally trigger the release of satiety hormones. You know, you look at these drugs, I mean they are memetics, meaning they're, they're replicas of natural peptides that exist in our body. So GLP1, GIP, leptin, so on and so forth. When you drink a soda or you eat a potato Chip, it doesn't have anything that's going to release your satiety hormones. In fact, it's the opposite. Right.
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A
Very short term. Yeah. It.
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B
It actually does the opposite. It dumps so much sugar in your bloodstream that your pancreas has a panic attack, dumps a bunch of insulin in the bloodstream, it scrapes all the sugar out of the blood, and now you actually have a sugar crash. You're hungry again. On top of a host of other things that they've engineered these foods to do to make you compulsively overeat. But when you get protein, fiber, healthy fats, these hormones get released as they should be naturally getting released, and your satiety should be managed. And another tip that I give people volumetrics, like, take fibrous and cruciferous. Take cruciferous vegetables, leafy greens, and eat as.
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A
I love the color chippers.
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B
You want?
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A
Yeah. Cauliflower, broccoli. Hello, friends. No limits.
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B
And now, I'm not saying it's going to be easy.
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A
No. But I do like mashed cauliflower. It's very easy to make.
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B
Delicious. Yeah.
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A
Steam it for 10 minutes, and then I mix it with vegan butter, a little bit of garlic powder.
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B
Nice. What's vegan butter?
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A
What's in there? It's basically organic olive oil.
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B
I'll take it.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Fantastic.
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A
Yeah, it's really good.
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B
I want to make sure you didn't see, like some sort of soybean.
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A
No, it's balance. It's just. It's. It's organic olive oil. And I put that in there. A little Greek yogurt.
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B
It's awesome.
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A
Salt, pepper, garlic powder. When I'm in a rush and.
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B
Okay.
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A
It's really good.
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B
Okay. But all the more to the point. Right. And make enough for the week so that you don't have to worry about food prepping every single. There's stuff you can do. I'm not telling you it's going to be easy. I'm telling you it's simple and it's going to be worth it. And take. Take a little help from the government so that they're not working against you 24 7.
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A
Yeah. No, you have to. You do have to be your own advocate, though, and you. You have to go a couple of steps further in order to make your life better and make yourself healthier. But. But that's what people want to do in January. I mean, there's actually. There's something beneficial to a reset. There's something beneficial to. I know everyone is a glutton. In December. And we have to accept that about ourselves. And then January 1st, there's like a. A national reset where people.
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B
Speak for yourself.
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A
Kennedy people go, well, no, I mean, I try. And I always try and schedule a race in December.
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B
That's so smart.
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A
I have to train throughout October and November, which is when the body wants to hibernate and eat, you know, delicious cinnamon rolls and coffee cake. Gluten free, of course, Eggnog. Yeah. Knock it up. But, you know, it's like, if I can limit that to 10 days as opposed to three months.
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B
Absolutely.
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A
Yeah.
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B
You're 100% right.
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A
Yeah. But then still in January, I'm like, hello, Kale, how are you? Dearest, let me write you a love letter in my mouth. Nice.
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B
Yeah, I like it. I like this. I mean, but you get it completely. You always have.
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A
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B
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A
But also, like growing up in the Pacific Northwest, we lived on salmon. Everyone in my family has a different way of making salmon.
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B
Really?
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A
Yes.
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B
That's so cute.
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A
Yeah. And it's like, there are always new ways. And recently I read a New York Times article. You do Dijon mustard and brown sugar and slather it on your salmon, bake it 12 minutes at 400, and it's really, really good and easy.
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B
It sounds delicious.
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A
Yeah. Rice in the rice cooker.
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B
Nice.
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A
Bag of organic salad from Whole Foods.
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B
Fantastic. A boom. You trying to take my job?
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A
No.
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B
I think you are.
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A
No, I'm inspired by you. And I want to talk about Toxic America's Food Crisis, which is your latest project. Just tell me all about it.
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B
Well, it is exactly what it claims to be toxic. Taking a look at America's food crisis. And here's the thing. Yeah, it's a little overwhelming, but I think it's important that you understand and, you know, we touched on it a little bit. The ways in which these four monster industries from Big Ag, Big Food, Big Pharma, and Big Insurance have rigged the game to keep us, quite literally fat, sick and nearly dead and dependent.
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A
Dependent on all of the systems and addicted to the food.
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Big money.
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A
And then dependent on the healthcare.
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Big money, Big money monster. And we spend the most on healthcare in America and have arguably the worst outcomes. The reality is it's exceptionally profitable. And that's the bottom line. We don't have to read into it more than that. That is simply the case. And so it's helping people understand the reason that they've been trapped in this cycle of being, quote, fat, sick, and nearly dead. And then teaching them simple, accessible, affordable ways to opt out and how to advocate for themselves on a policy level.
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A
Yeah.
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B
How do you take charge? How do you vote with your dollars?
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A
Do you love green tea?
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B
I like it.
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A
I love green tea so much, I want to bathe in it.
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B
I, I, I, I am a coffee person.
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A
I am, too. So in the morning, I'm a coffee person. Like, yeah, Inject it. Like, shove it in my face.
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B
Big green.
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A
And then around like 11, 12, I switch to green tea.
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B
You make a switch?
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A
It's just a trickle. Yeah.
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B
I go back to the well.
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A
If I'm working at night, I have to have coffee.
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B
Do you have a brand of green.
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A
Tea that you like?
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B
Like, are you, like, what was it? Gunpowder?
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A
Green tea that I like gunpowder. I'm not as big of a fan of Matcha because I heard it can deplete your iron, but jasmine green tea actually amplifies the egcg, which is the compound that fights free radicals, helps you lose weight, and also fights cancer in the tongue, esophagus, stomach, breast, colon, and butthole. And that's what I'm here for.
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B
You do not need butthole cancer.
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A
No one does, because I said that, by the way.
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B
Now I'm gonna get it. Now I'm gonna get butt. You know, you can't put it in the universe.
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A
No, no, you won't, because you're gonna eat your fiber. Okay. Your lean, healthy protein. You're gonna feel full and sexy, and then you're gonna wash down with green tea. And then when you feel like it, you're gonna have a treat.
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B
I love it.
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A
Yeah. Okay.
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B
What treat am I having, though?
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A
I mean, they have some ice cream.
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B
You know, I don't eat sugar. Like, added processed sugar. You know why? Because it is so heavily addicted.
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A
I crave sugar, like, even when I don't have it away.
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B
Yeah, dude, I had to literally walk away and be, like, sober.
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A
Like dark chocolate. Like, sometimes I have to dip strawberries.
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B
That's great for you.
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A
It's beautiful and celebratory.
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B
Yeah.
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And I feel like strawberries are.
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B
That is absolutely the case. I'm with you on that.
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A
That's easy. Like, you, you melt dark chocolate in 30 second bursts, and then you just dip away. Let Them sit for a couple minutes. Cookbook? No.
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B
Why?
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A
I don't know why you need one of those.
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B
I'll write the forward.
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A
All right. Yeah. Next time I will make you my low sugar gluten free chocolate chip cookies.
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B
Oh, hell yeah.
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A
But I do make them with butter.
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B
I'm fine with that.
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A
Yeah, Brown butter is the key to delicious. Okay, so I read something from a woman who. Fountain of youth. Because you know the guy, I can't remember his name, but he has like that waxy skin and he spends $2 million a year reversing his aging process. He's like a psycho. And he like goes to bed at six at night and he's got like glass skin and he always shows his nipples.
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B
Oh, my gosh.
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A
What is his name?
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B
I know, I've interviewed him. Brian. And the company's called.
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A
And it's like fascinating, but he's like, I'm the worst person to date. It's like, no fun. Like, I cannot be around people. But then there was ladies who was like, yeah, I'd meditate in the morning and drink green tea. And then her whole thing is, I try and get 100 grams of protein a day and eat a pound of vegetables. And I'm like, that I can deal with. Like, that I can aim for. Because I don't look at it. It's like macros. How many grams of protein and fiber? It's like pound of vegetables. 100 grams of protein. Like, as long as I go for that, then it's like I'm on. You know, it's like my track is a little wobbly, but for the most part.
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Whole Foods. Whole foods. Don't overeat. Get your sleep. Drink your water. I mean, move your body.
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A
It's.
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It's not sexy. That's not easy.
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A
The mantra movement is medicine. It is so true.
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B
Number one form of preventative medicine is exercise.
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A
Amen. You know what? I started doing more mobility.
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B
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Motion is lotion.
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A
But like the mobility training with my.
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B
Hips, like so important. It changes everything, especially as we age.
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A
And. And then people look at me and think I have problems and they stay away from me. So I feel safer. Yes, it's the key to living longer.
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B
I don't believe you.
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A
Keeping the psychos at bay. I don't believe you.
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B
I. I think that. I think that you are wildly charismatic and nothing would accomplish that.
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Slightly menacing, which is okay. I want to thank you for everything. You are a goddess among us. I love your brain. I love your joie de vivre. So Please come back anytime and next time I will make you green tea. That you will.
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B
Okay.
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A
And cookies. Next time you come back, I want the cookies. I will make you the gluten free, low sugar chocolate chip cookies. That very satisfying.
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B
I'm into it.
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A
Fibrous and delightful.
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B
I'm ready. And I'll write the forward to that cookbook.
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Oh, I can't wait. Which will tango Miss Aspen Kennedy Saves the World along with the genius Jillian Michaels. I'm Kennedy. Listen ad free with the Fox News podcast plus subscription on Apple Podcasts and Amazon Prime. Members can listen to this show ad free on the Amazon music app. Oh, go ahead and leave me a review while you're there. I'd love to hear what you have to say. You've been listening to Kennedy Saves the World on the Fox News Podcast Network.