Cancel Culture Strikes Love Island USA - Full Episode

Summary

KFC Radio Episode Summary: "Cancel Culture Strikes Love Island USA"

Release Date: July 8, 2025
Host/Authors: Kevin Clancy, John Feidelberg, Jackie, and Pablo
Podcast: KFC Radio by Barstool Sports

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Introduction

In this episode of KFC Radio, hosts Kevin Clancy, John Feidelberg, Jackie, and Pablo delve into the tumultuous landscape of reality television, focusing primarily on the popular show Love Island USA. The conversation explores the intersection of cancel culture and the dynamics within the show, providing a critical analysis of recent events and their broader implications.

Cancel Culture's Impact on Love Island

The discussion intensifies as the hosts address the recent controversies surrounding Love Island USA, particularly the show's response to instances of racism among contestants.

Kevin Clancy [37:11]: "There was this one girl who got kicked out after two days for using the N-word. It was so quick, like, 'We don't know you. We're not gonna deal with this drama. Let's just get you out of here.'"

The hosts express skepticism about the consistency of the show's disciplinary actions, questioning whether Love Island USA will maintain its standards in future seasons.

John Feidelberg [37:27]: "The network was like, 'We're gonna have a million more seasons, so we can't jeopardize the whole institution for this one.'"

Authenticity of Relationships and Connections

A significant portion of the conversation critiques the authenticity of the relationships formed on Love Island USA, suggesting that many connections are superficial and driven by the pursuit of fame rather than genuine affection.

Kevin Clancy [34:17]: "Love Island is a cultural phenomenon, but I fundamentally do not understand the people—the fans—who are such fans of this show. There's nobody in love and no real connections."

The hosts argue that the structure of the show, which resembles an adult summer camp, inherently encourages drama, gossip, and backstabbing, sidelining the possibility of forming lasting relationships.

John Feidelberg [34:43]: "We're throwing these people into an adult summer camp for three weeks and watching them. What are they supposed to do?"

Social Media, Fame, and the Contestants' Mental Health

The role of social media in amplifying contestants' fame and the pressures that come with it is another focal point. The hosts discuss how contestants manage their online presence while isolated from their devices, often relying on influencers to handle their social media accounts.

Kevin Clancy [44:48]: "She has a big heart. She's a wonderful girl. But if she came in and, like, talked, I'd think you're great. But she can't speak and says a bunch of silly stuff—it's gonna make people think she's dumb."

This reliance on social media handlers not only affects contestants' public perceptions but also contributes to their mental strain, especially when facing backlash for their actions on the show.

Overproduction and Manipulation by Producers

The conversation shifts to the artificial nature of Love Island USA, with the hosts speculating on the extent of producers' influence over the show's outcomes. They suggest that producers may manipulate events to heighten drama and maintain viewer engagement.

Kevin Clancy [52:50]: "The producers are producing everything. They're making sure that these people go home and they don't go home. It's like, this is our cash cow."

Such manipulation, according to the hosts, undermines the authenticity of the show and exploits contestants for higher ratings, often at the expense of the participants' well-being.

Broader Implications of Cancel Culture on Reality TV

Expanding the scope, the hosts reflect on how cancel culture affects not just individual shows like Love Island USA but the reality TV genre as a whole. They debate whether the consequences faced by contestants are fair and examine the societal pressures that perpetuate the need for shows to balance entertainment with ethical standards.

Kevin Clancy [42:55]: "If you go on the show, you're signing up for scrutiny. It's not risk-free. The risk is that you might say or do something that makes America think less of you."

Personal Reflections and Opinions

Throughout the episode, the hosts share their personal opinions on the matter, often expressing frustration with the current state of reality TV and the unrealistic standards set by both contestants and viewers.

John Feidelberg [58:27]: "Good stories are related to stuff like personal dramas. We talk about real experiences, but Love Island is just trash."

They advocate for more genuine and relatable content, criticizing the superficiality and manufactured drama prevalent in popular reality shows.

Conclusion

In summary, this episode of KFC Radio provides a comprehensive critique of Love Island USA, highlighting how cancel culture intersects with reality television to shape both the show's dynamics and its contestants' lives. The hosts question the authenticity of reality TV relationships, the role of social media in perpetuating fame, and the ethical responsibilities of producers in crafting engaging yet respectful content. Their candid discussion offers listeners a thought-provoking perspective on the complexities of modern reality TV and the societal forces that drive its evolution.

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Notable Quotes:

• "Love Island is throwing these people into an adult summer camp for three weeks and watching them. What are they supposed to do?" – John Feidelberg [34:43]

• "If you go on the show, you're signing up for scrutiny. It's not risk-free." – Kevin Clancy [42:55]

• "Good stories are related to personal dramas. We talk about real experiences, but Love Island is just trash." – John Feidelberg [58:27]

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This structured summary encapsulates the key points, discussions, insights, and conclusions from the episode, providing a comprehensive overview for those who have not listened to the full podcast.

Transcript

[Kevin Clancy]

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[John Feidelberg]

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[Kevin Clancy]

All right, we're back from break. It's another edition of KFC Radio on the barstool sports network. First of all, how weird is with no scaffolding? Like, I. I'm like, lost. Am I in the wrong block?

[John Feidelberg]

When I got off the subway today, I realized that you hadn't seen it yet. Yeah, Kevin's gonna be coming to a whole new world.

[Kevin Clancy]

It's crazy. Everything that's happened to me a few times in New York, different places I've lived, different places I've worked where, like, I've moved into a building that had scaffolding, and I'm just like, this is where I live. And, like, years go by and then it finally disappears. And you're like, where the am I?

[John Feidelberg]

Walking out the door now is like walking out of a strip club at like, six.

[Kevin Clancy]

Why is he.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, yeah. There's more sunshine.

[Kevin Clancy]

I'm seeing all these signs. I'm like, we're right next to this place. I didn't even know you could, like.

[Jackie]

Really see, like, what a piece of everyone is, because it's just like all the. You can see all the desk with just, like, stuff piled up.

[John Feidelberg]

Oh, yeah. You can see into Bar St. It's what it looks like looking into my apartment.

[Kevin Clancy]

Speaking of.

[John Feidelberg]

You're just.

[Kevin Clancy]

Your whole existence is sitting on a gold mine and you don't know it.

[John Feidelberg]

What do you mean?

[Kevin Clancy]

Because. All right, we know about Ralph Lauren. Ralph Lauren? Yes. We know about the slop buckets becoming the new craze on gq. And then just as I. Just as I was walking in here, I saw another one. This performance art sold for $4 million is just your bed. It's just. It's just your bed. It's. It's called a modern art. What say modern art exposition or whatever. It's just a. A messy bed with, like, a bottle of vodka and chips and snacks and dirt all along the side. It's just Feidelberg's bed, and it sold for four. When I say you're literally on. Sitting on top of a gold mine, you're sitting on. You're laying on top of a pile of money. It's your bed, dude.

[John Feidelberg]

This morning I woke up and I, I woke up and I pulled my comforter down. I was just like, you know, like when you fucking.

[Kevin Clancy]

That's another one, by the way. It's just a closer version of that.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, that's. That's just literally my bed. But this morning I woke up and like, you know, like you throw the comforter off, you get up, go to the bathroom, whatever. I came back and I looked at my bed and it was chocolate everywhere. Like, what do you mean?

[Jackie]

Yeah, well, this store happened like seven.

[Kevin Clancy]

Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

I thought you were like, yeah, yeah, it's a chocolate.

[Jackie]

When you were building up the store, I was gonna. It's another chocolate.

[John Feidelberg]

He's got one joke. It's chocolate in the back. Honestly, you're a one trick pony.

[Kevin Clancy]

You're kind of a two trick pony.

[John Feidelberg]

Because of the blood thing to remember.

[Kevin Clancy]

Was it not poop, not blood. It's either something red or something brown in your bed. That's your only joke?

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, John's telling the story. It's probably going to be about chocolate.

[Jackie]

Just saying like this always happens to. And it's crazy. Like it's every single time it shocks me.

[John Feidelberg]

Like you're stepping on my punchline, man. That's the only punchline. Well, this the, the difference this time. Usually I'm like chocolate in bed, same thing as you. Yeah, we got it. But it was all down by my feet and I was like, how the fuck did chocolate get all down there, right? It looked like. It looked like the scratches in a horror movie where it was like someone couldn't get out. You know what I mean? So it was just like all. Because all the kicking I was doing in my sleep and stuff like that. So it was just like chocolate everywhere. And I was like, how did that even happen, dude? Like, what? You gotta get it together. I went into the kitchen, I realized I had stepped on a peanut butter cup and. And obviously track that.

[Kevin Clancy]

I don't know what's worse.

[John Feidelberg]

I don't know what's worse.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, yes. But like that was. I was in a shared kitchen where somebody sabotaged me by putting a ketchup pack on the.

[Jackie]

But this is his peanut butter cup.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

And he leaves around and then steps in and brings them all around his house. If it was like, oh, I was, you know, in someone else's house or I was around the little kids and I stepped on their chocolate. It's his chocolate.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, it's my, it's my, it's My job.

[Kevin Clancy]

So what's worse is having it in your bed or traipsing it from your.

[John Feidelberg]

Kitchen to your bed? I don't know. That's very.

[Kevin Clancy]

What kind of peanut butter cut was it, though?

[John Feidelberg]

Unreal.

[Kevin Clancy]

Of course.

[John Feidelberg]

Come on, get that recent out of here. The one. One.

[Kevin Clancy]

Dude, I thought you were a Justin's guy, too.

[John Feidelberg]

I'm a Justin's guy.

[Kevin Clancy]

I've. I.

[John Feidelberg]

It's probably been about a year.

[Kevin Clancy]

Pivoted over to.

[John Feidelberg]

Over to. To Unreals.

[Kevin Clancy]

Wow.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah. Less sugar. I eat about 20 of them, but I get, I get. I eat about two bags a day.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Do you actually like the taste or you just like.

[John Feidelberg]

No, I genuinely love them. They're really good.

[Kevin Clancy]

Why? This would be healthy or something?

[Jackie]

Yeah, they're healthier.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, they're. They're way healthier. I eat, again, I eat two bags of them, so I kind of negate that. But I originally got them being like, okay, I'll be healthy.

[Kevin Clancy]

I refuse to believe. I think that, like, big, big food is still with us because I just refuse to believe with all the advancements we've made that we can't just nail good tasting healthy food. Where's. Where's that at, bro? Where's that at?

[John Feidelberg]

I think, I think we did it.

[Kevin Clancy]

I think so.

[John Feidelberg]

I think it was. God, like, if you just eat food, it's unbelievable. Well, like, real food. Yeah, like, just if you just eat food, it's unbelievable. It's the most.

[Kevin Clancy]

We're talking about, like fresh meals and shit like that. Like.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, like, nothing crazy. Just go to the market, cook up a steak, grab a banana. It's unbelievable. Steak and banana, dude. I was.

[Kevin Clancy]

I get what you mean. Sometimes just getting like a good, real meal in you. I was just like, this is. But, but don't you think that, like, if we can, you know. Do you know spaceships and Internet and all this crazy. I, I mean, if they can do it with Coke Zero and, And Diet Coke and that where it's like, it's. That's zero calories that kills you.

[John Feidelberg]

Who cares?

[Kevin Clancy]

I'm okay with that.

[Jackie]

I'm kind of.

[Kevin Clancy]

I just want like a salad or broccoli or whatever to taste like chocolate. I ref. I refuse to believe. You can't do that. Just cook up whatever, like chocolate tastes like in a little dropper, and you just like sprinkle it on the broccoli and you eat that.

[John Feidelberg]

I think that would weird me out. I, I probably. I don't, like, give it a couple.

[Kevin Clancy]

Generations and we'd all be able to just eat whatever we want.

[John Feidelberg]

Well, I guess I say that would weird me out, but like, I like raspberry flavored sours.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like, it's, you also are a, a, a testament to, like, if you just work out, you can do whatever you want.

[John Feidelberg]

Yes.

[Kevin Clancy]

I mean, you eat like a pig. I'm talking bones and scraps and yeah, you work out and you're in great shape.

[John Feidelberg]

It's super easy, dude.

[Kevin Clancy]

It's not, it's.

[John Feidelberg]

No, it's not. Not.

[Kevin Clancy]

You're a machine.

[John Feidelberg]

40 minutes a day. You walk a little bit.

[Kevin Clancy]

I hate when people say that. I hate when people say that. Just work out for 40 minutes. Yeah, if I work out for 40 straight minutes, it's a lot.

[John Feidelberg]

It's a. But like, I, I, I, when you're.

[Kevin Clancy]

Two minutes in, you're like, I got to do this for 38 more minutes.

[John Feidelberg]

I'm not like, playing dumb, but like, once you get into.

[Kevin Clancy]

It's just part of your I, I, I, I'm jealous of you, man. I, I, I, I, because you, I know what you're saying, that it's easy, but also you like it and you are into it and it's, you like it part of your routine and all that. I, I, I wish I could walk a mile in your shoes and you could walk a mile in my shoes and see how much I hate it. And I can see how much you love it. And maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I see him like, oh, he doesn't love that much. I should just push my way through it. I feel like if you jumped into my shoes and felt what I felt, you'd be, I'm never doing this.

[John Feidelberg]

It's, it's so like 10 of the time you go to the gym is even a good workout. You just go.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, you just go. It's just something to, like, get you going. And even if you lift a two.

[John Feidelberg]

Three times, you're good. You know what I mean?

[Kevin Clancy]

Like, if I were to just do that, it's 300 more than what I'm doing right now.

[Jackie]

I feel like you, because you like music, and that's, that's the part of it that's like the best is putting the music on.

[Kevin Clancy]

And I really, I, I don't have, like, I've gotten into podcasts enough now that, like, I don't really have music time anymore. I miss music.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, I do. Speaking of music.

[Jackie]

Oh, I know what you're gonna say.

[John Feidelberg]

Romy Mars. I'm.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

She's like 17 years.

[Jackie]

Also the cool. 17 year old dude.

[John Feidelberg]

She's. I. I haven't had a feeling since. About a pop star since Carly Rae Jepsen, which I was wrong about.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, we were wrong on that one.

[John Feidelberg]

Well, we're not wrong because Carly Ray Jepson still puts out bangers. She's just not like mainstream. She's.

[Jackie]

Yeah, yeah. Okay, first of all, this is an.

[Kevin Clancy]

11 year old girl.

[John Feidelberg]

Oh, I'm not like she's. I'm not like she's hot. No, I know, but.

[Kevin Clancy]

But I. I just expected the look to be very different. I thought she was going to be cool looking. No, no, just no shades. That's not a girl that John usually would be like, oh, she's awesome.

[John Feidelberg]

No, I honestly, I heard the song before I ever saw like this is. That's probably the most I've seen her. But the. She's Sophia Coppola's daughter.

[Kevin Clancy]

Right.

[John Feidelberg]

And some friends.

[Kevin Clancy]

Croquet Mars Coppola.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, she's like. Her dad's like some French rocker, Thomas Marsh. She's obviously. She's a Coppola. She's insanely wealthy. She went viral originally for a TikTok where she got grounded because she tried to use her dad's credit card to buy a helicopter from LA to Maryland so she'd get lunch with her friend. So she got gangster and she's like in the TikTok. She's like being very funny. She really. It's to the point where like if someone wants to tell me industry plant like. Because I watched that TikTok and I was like, someone wrote this? Yeah, it might have been Rami some, but someone wrote this is not just.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like off the cuff.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah. Like, it's like she like goes. Turns to like her nanny's boyfriend and is like this is a fiasco. And he's like, fiasco. I prefer fiasco. For when she goes, well, it is Women's History Month performance and she does. But she delivered it so well and all that. And then the song is kind of like Olivia Rodrigo. Y but it's about being.

[Jackie]

No, it's like 2001. Like it's going back in time but then.

[John Feidelberg]

But like her tone when she's singing, it's. She's got a little Rodrigo to it. But it's just about like how she's a nepo baby and crazy rich and it's boring to her. And I was like, that's actually the.

[Kevin Clancy]

Way to do it.

[John Feidelberg]

That's really interesting. Yeah, that's like. That's an like she's Talking about, like, she's like, I take pictures like Titanic on yachts. I don't know. It's something to do. She's unbelievable. She. Like, I've listened to her.

[Kevin Clancy]

Does she have just, like, one hit out or.

[John Feidelberg]

She's got three songs. All of them are great. A Lister is the one I'm referring to. A Lister is just a smash, which.

[Jackie]

I. I didn't even realize until you. You. Because he had texted. Yeah, that was crazy. Te. And I think that we would know, like, about Tik Tok and know about it. I didn't know about it.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like, if he knows about it, that's insane.

[Pablo]

I. I don't know if this will change your opinion on it, because I really like that song, but the amount of money. I mean, I don't know if this goes without saying or not that she paid to have that song become popular. All of the Tik Tok engagement for, like, two months was fake.

[John Feidelberg]

That's fine with me. The song. The song's great. The inspiration for it is great.

[Kevin Clancy]

You're. You're in a good spot where you don't really care. Like, if I was. If you're, like, on Tik Tok and invested in certain things that might bother you, but if you're not, just like.

[John Feidelberg]

I don't give a. Yeah, it's a good song.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah. It's the same thing with, like, you know, always talk about bots and buying music, and I don't really care what the Spotify numbers say. I don't know if I like. Like, if I was invested in it, like, I care about who has more streamers, whatever, you know, But I don't. So.

[John Feidelberg]

No, that's like, whatever. Yeah. Like, remember the same type of thing with, like, Sammy Adams was like, yeah, his family bought all. Maybe. I don't know. It's good.

[Kevin Clancy]

It's a great party joint.

[Jackie]

And I feel like her and Addison Ray are, like, doing, like, this vintage pop.

[Kevin Clancy]

She's killing it. Right. I haven't listened, but I see a.

[John Feidelberg]

Lot of people been like, I've heard really good. Yeah, I haven't. I haven't listened to it either.

[Jackie]

And I just. I like that. It's like, you know, bring it back. It's like, it.

[Kevin Clancy]

I've said this before. I would sample everything right now. I would just go back to a time where Hoodie Allen just put out a song with the Jesse McCartney sample. And it's like, I. I don't think you make much money off of original publishing anyway these days.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Get a Fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a penny. But now, like, if Hoodie Allen could go tour and all that make money. So it's like I would go sample NSYNC and Backstreet Boys and everything from about 25 years ago that has catchy.

[John Feidelberg]

Hooks and melodies and wrote it, sample it done.

[Kevin Clancy]

And yeah, you don't get any money for that. That goes right to the publishing company or whatever. But Now I'm number one on TikTok and all that. Good. Yeah, I'm set. That's, that's, that would be my model. I don't know. Like, I don't think any old buddy can just sample whatever they want. You have to get cleared and permission and all that. So I don't think they just give it to schmucks. Like, if I wanted to make a song right now, I don't think I could sample Biggie or some.

[John Feidelberg]

But if I could, I would.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, you get all the money. But I will now get a million followers on social media and like have a whole life.

[Jackie]

This reminds me. Music reminds me of my. I have a new bar. Clubbing club idea.

[Kevin Clancy]

Oh, Jackie presents. Let's go.

[Jackie]

And it also goes with Pav's like doing no shoes today. Okay. The other day I was like in. I was like at a club and like we all took our shoes off. It was the most freeing experience. I know, I know it sounds good. It was.

[Kevin Clancy]

Wait, like, like, like we're all.

[Jackie]

It was an outdoor. This was another, I guess, like, like this was like. It was like a beach, like type thing.

[Kevin Clancy]

Okay.

[Jackie]

Took her shoes off. The most freeing experience.

[Kevin Clancy]

What club though?

[Jackie]

Like, it was. This was in Greenport, like in Hamptons kind of thing. Like.

[Kevin Clancy]

Got it.

[Jackie]

So it was, it was kind of. It was not socially acceptable to. But it was like beach town esque. So it was more socially acceptable too. But dancing at the club with your shoes off is like grounding at the club, basically. It's like. So it was the most freeing experience. So you're outside then?

[Kevin Clancy]

Or inside?

[Jackie]

It was outside.

[Kevin Clancy]

And you're on a floor or grass or like outdoor grass or indoor.

[Jackie]

It was like an outdoor rug. And it was pretty gross. So here's what was like when we got back, we did the next night too. And like our feet were black. Like it was disgusting. And we were like, this is like, this is kind of gross. So here's my thing. It's like the Clean Floor Club. Clean Floor club where every single like night we scrub the hell out of the floors and like somebody Comes around like almost like a, what's it called?

[Kevin Clancy]

Like a janitor buffer thingy with the.

[Jackie]

Ice, like on the.

[Kevin Clancy]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jackie]

And you come, they come around every hour on the hour and they clean the floors on the tables and then like, you know, and like while they clean the floors standing up on the tables too. Like another like cool future. But it's the clean floor club. And then, and you, you no shoes policy.

[Kevin Clancy]

So you can't come in with shoes.

[Jackie]

You can't. Well, you can, you can come in with shoes, but you, you put them in a cubby or something.

[John Feidelberg]

So this is, this happens hourly, nightly.

[Kevin Clancy]

Because I was gonna say, I do.

[John Feidelberg]

Think they clean nightly. Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

So hourly, I think is probably. But then clear out the place for an hour, every hour to clean.

[Jackie]

Well, that's the thing is everyone, they go, they go, all right, like the, the cleaners are coming out and then, and then they can do like a little like strip clean thing too, you know, like, or it's like, it could.

[Kevin Clancy]

Be like a performance.

[John Feidelberg]

And don't get me wrong, the cleaners are naked. It's a strip club. Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

What you need to do is, is, is we'll come up with the, you know, like the no shoes, no shirt, no, no service.

[John Feidelberg]

Yes.

[Kevin Clancy]

Opposite. Everybody te the shoes off.

[Jackie]

Exactly.

[Kevin Clancy]

And the cleaners have their shirts off. It's almost like the, remember, remember the old Yankees grounds crew with the YMCA thing? They walked around cleaning.

[John Feidelberg]

You could have that.

[Kevin Clancy]

These like male strippers come in or females only pants.

[John Feidelberg]

Pants only club and pants only club. I think you will, I think you will have a hard time getting men in that club.

[Kevin Clancy]

It needs to be pants only for.

[John Feidelberg]

Because men don't take their shirts off.

[Kevin Clancy]

And I think you have also, I think you have a problem with girls getting in the club if the guys have their shirts off.

[John Feidelberg]

That's true too.

[Kevin Clancy]

That's why we don't take our shirts off. I think most of the time when, when guys take their shirts off, girls.

[John Feidelberg]

Like, dude, we know. I complete that. I, I, So we had a shoot out of a mascot shoot in Lake Placid and there were like 12 of us up there.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

And we were at a lake and it's the summer T. Shirt off. Nobody would take their shirts off. And I was like, you too? No, I would. Yeah, two of us. Yeah. I don't care. But I was like, I was like speaking to the group. I was like, you're a group of ten normal looking men. Yeah. Just take your shirts.

[Kevin Clancy]

No, that, that, that, that is for sure. A thing. And that, that is out of all of the like men used to go things like, we can't take our shirts off anymore. We are a bunch of gay guys again.

[John Feidelberg]

Like I could see it if someone was morbidly obese or like, like it was. It was 12 guys.

[Kevin Clancy]

I've always found though, I think it's easier to take a shirt off if you're a big fat guy.

[John Feidelberg]

I get that.

[Kevin Clancy]

It's the middle ground that's the trouble. If you're in shape, you're good. If you're fat, you just got like a big round belly. It's when you're like lumpy and skinny fat that it gets a little weird. Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

But like that's just what guys look like. But that's what a guy.

[Kevin Clancy]

I totally agree. And that's where it used to be that men used to just wear like a wife beater and they're like khakis with a belt up to like their nipples. You know what I mean?

[John Feidelberg]

Boxers. Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

But like. And that was okay. Now guys are like. I think because the pro. Here's the, here's the real problem. The proliferation of the Hotmail is a problem.

[John Feidelberg]

No, I think the proliferation. I think it's Internet.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Guys. Normal looking guys all year.

[Kevin Clancy]

No, Correct.

[John Feidelberg]

But you look at fucking business models all day.

[Kevin Clancy]

That's what I'm saying is that. But I think the first wave of the Internet was like hot chicks like anything else.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

There's a new thing. Let's get naked women on it. Like that's always been the thing. The first wave. Now the second wave are the tick tock guys with their abs and their eye rolls and their dances and. And then like that became cool. That used to be like the are you doing? And now that's like ah, swoon. So that the regular guys are like, well, I can't. It's. It's actually men going through what women have gone through.

[Jackie]

This is coming around.

[John Feidelberg]

Right.

[Kevin Clancy]

It's like, oh, I can't.

[John Feidelberg]

Oh no. I have a little bit of a muffin.

[Kevin Clancy]

That's male life now. Which is crazy.

[John Feidelberg]

That is true. Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

It's wrong. I. I get what you're saying is we should not be like that. And I agree with you. But that is also the reality.

[Jackie]

Highway pants will come back in style.

[John Feidelberg]

For men Highways pants are back in stuff. Oh, I wear them every day.

[Jackie]

Yeah, you do. Yeah. Supporting the rocker or the.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, you guys are always in like big straight path's not wearing the exact same clothes today. Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

It's a blue.

[Kevin Clancy]

Well, you have shoes on. Through a no shoes phase.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Go to my club.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

He's. You know, he always has a reason. It's like, oh, my shoes got wet in the rain. Okay. I'm wearing new shoes that gave me blisters. I don't want to get blisters. Okay. But these are things that you just have to power through as an adult. You just can't be. He just putters around. He's always just like, looking at a camera with socks on, and it's fucking ridiculous.

[Jackie]

Well, I think he also likes the feeling. He's just trying to, like, be like, oh, it bliss. Like, he's trying to come up with, like, excuses, I think.

[Kevin Clancy]

So it's like, at this point, just be like, I'm the barefoot guy. Also, it's funny when he does around us, when he did it with. With Stephen A. Smith's nephew and like, his whole crew, they're like this white boy with no shoes on. That was.

[John Feidelberg]

That was. That was a choice.

[Kevin Clancy]

That was a choice. But, yeah, it's, you know, when. When, when, like a hot dude. Hot dudes being a thing is bad for business. It's bad for everybody.

[Jackie]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Hot guys are a problem, but, like.

[Kevin Clancy]

Because they, they, they. They need to be checked. They run unchecked. It's like, women want to. Me. Guys want to be me. Now I. Now I like, make money on sponsorships and brand deals, and it's like, we're rewarding.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

No, this. It really. I. I think I said this. There was a trend or something recently along the lines of this. Probably one of the guys dancing or whatever. And I. Oh, I think it was my take of straight men should not be on any social media.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

It should be allowed, right?

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

And it. And. But it's your fault. It's your fault. Why it's women's fault because you reward it. You, them, and you like them and you follow them. You guys.

[Pablo]

You guys are guys. That much?

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Pablo]

Like, okay, maybe that's just me, but, like, I don't want to. Those hot guys say it louder because.

[John Feidelberg]

They don't know that.

[Kevin Clancy]

And so they keep doing it. They need to be shamed into putting a shirt on.

[John Feidelberg]

It's the best food I've ever seen. Is. Is Adam Driver.

[Kevin Clancy]

What is it?

[John Feidelberg]

Adam Driver is proof that in order to be hot, you gotta be a little bit ugly. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. A little bit of that. Well, yeah, Talk to him like, you.

[Jackie]

Know TJ and Love Island.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yes.

[Jackie]

Okay. There's, like, this guy, he's, like, perfect looking. Like, he has perfect face. He's so ugly to me. Like, I do not think he's attractive. Pepe, on the other hand. Oh, my God, I don't see it.

[Pablo]

His hair is tight. His hair is so annoying. It looks like a dandelion.

[Kevin Clancy]

Go to Turkey or shave his head.

[Jackie]

Okay.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yes, but that's like.

[Pablo]

Or a different hairstyle.

[Kevin Clancy]

That's another thing that's a problem, by the way. This.

[John Feidelberg]

We kind of just looks very handsome.

[Kevin Clancy]

Which guy? Pepe?

[John Feidelberg]

I think so.

[Jackie]

Pepe or tj?

[John Feidelberg]

Pepe.

[Jackie]

Okay.

[Kevin Clancy]

His hair. I mean, listen, everyone on Love island is just conventionally attractive in some regard.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

TJ on Love island, he's a little more like white boy, you know? I think Pepe's. Pepe's hair got to go one way or the other. You got to get more of it. Get rid of it.

[John Feidelberg]

But CJ's the hot guy.

[Jackie]

No, but, like, he's not.

[John Feidelberg]

Is 10 times better looking, this guy.

[Kevin Clancy]

Let me see what you're looking at.

[Jackie]

But, like, he's technically, he's like, conventionally, like, perfect looking.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, I mean, that's, that's just like a clean cut, white, goodlooking guy.

[John Feidelberg]

I, I, I, I'm like, I'm not arguing he's ugly, but I'm not like, whoa, what is this?

[Kevin Clancy]

Oh, that's also a problem with Love island this year, is that none of them, none of the guys are like.

[John Feidelberg]

I, I think, I think Pepe's far more attractive than this guy. Again, I haven't seen them act or anything like that. I'm just looking at. I really like Pepe.

[Jackie]

Yeah, I know, but like, but I'm saying, like, the, because you have to be slightly ugly, which Pepe isn't even slightly ugly. You have a little something new.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yes. Yeah. Yes. It's, it's, it's like, it's kind of like anybody, guys or girls, when you're a little bit ugly, you get a personality and you become funny and all that. You don't have everything, like, handed to you. It's like a tall guy or hot girl. Like, you need a little bit of adversity. But if, if you go on the Internet and do, like, hot guy shit and nobody says the are you doing, you're going to keep doing it.

[Jackie]

Say that louder.

[John Feidelberg]

What is the oldest, like, we were talking about, like, hot guy on the Internet here? How old are these people?

[Kevin Clancy]

It's a good question.

[John Feidelberg]

I mean, like, if you're over 27.

[Kevin Clancy]

They'Re probably younger than that.

[John Feidelberg]

Being like a hot guy.

[Pablo]

Josh Richards, honestly is like, og, like tik tok hot guy.

[John Feidelberg]

Doesn't act like that anymore.

[Kevin Clancy]

Well, he's embarrassed.

[Pablo]

And people.

[John Feidelberg]

He's always like, if you're over 27, doing like, like hot guys.

[Kevin Clancy]

I think 27's generous.

[John Feidelberg]

I think 27 generous too. Yeah. I think that's like the fire.

[Kevin Clancy]

Sure. Like, if you're doing that at 27.

[John Feidelberg]

You, like, but like 20, like. Like at 27, you're still like.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like if you started at 21 in your reality. Yeah, this is my life now.

[John Feidelberg]

You're still in that world.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

But if you're just like a regular person trying to do be like, what up?

[Kevin Clancy]

I'm hot.

[John Feidelberg]

Well, this is guys or girls? I think guys. It's worse. But guys are girls. Is. It gets like, there is an age. I think. I think the age is different for women than it is for men. But there's an age where you're like, all right, maybe.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, stop doing thought. Stop doing hot. Like, you know, you don't have to, like the nails, the hair, the abs, whatever it is for guys and girls.

[John Feidelberg]

I think women can be much older. I think. Like, women, I don't know. I'm not gonna say an age, but like, men, it's. You get cut off pretty well.

[Kevin Clancy]

It's also the difference, like, you know, girls are always held to a different standard where it's like, you gotta be good looking. There's a difference between, like, being good looking and attractive and doing hot. You know what I mean?

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Dressing away, acting away. Makeup, clothes, style.

[John Feidelberg]

Like, I follow style guys. None of them are like, yeah, well, you know what?

[Kevin Clancy]

You know, the problem is, I think maybe everybody grew up with this in some regard. I don't know. Or maybe they didn't like hot guy shit. For me, growing up was like, for sure a thing. Growing up around guidos, they were waxing their eyebrows, going to the tanning, wearing tank tops, wearing jewelry, haircuts every two seconds, like, to look kind of like, basically look pretty, you know, and then that became popular with the Jersey Shore. And then. And then I think. I think it's. It spiraled from guidos. I think the Italians started it. And now it's not just Italians, but it's hot tick tock dancers and whatever.

[John Feidelberg]

And it's like, oh, it might have been the Italian.

[Kevin Clancy]

Italian.

[John Feidelberg]

Like, I didn't know a single guy that.

[Kevin Clancy]

That like, cared about his eyebrows. Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

And we all like to look good, but, like, none of us were like, Doing, like, primping and, and stuff like that.

[Kevin Clancy]

I remember I was friends with a lot of them. They're, they're all good guys. They're funny dudes. They're, like, normal to hang out with for the most part.

[John Feidelberg]

They weren't. None of us would dye our eyebrows or anything ridiculous like that. You know what I mean?

[Kevin Clancy]

Different.

[John Feidelberg]

No one's doing anything insane. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's different. That's different. Fixing, like, a problem is different.

[Kevin Clancy]

I, I felt like Uncle Leo that day. But, But I remember hanging out with those guys being like, you're all cool and like, yeah, you're funny. We'll hang out. Like, we'll do normal, but, like, I'm not doing that stuff. I watched a lot of guys, like, fall into that, like, oh, I'll get my tips frosted. And I was like, okay.

[John Feidelberg]

Oh, well, I did that when I was really young. I did that, like, when I was in, like, elementary school.

[Jackie]

You did it.

[Kevin Clancy]

That's early.

[Jackie]

You did it like, three years ago. I mean, you put sun in, in your hair.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, yeah, no, I've done all that, but I, I don't think I do. I, I guess if I'm analyzing myself, I don't think I do it's look pretty. I think I just do it because I think it's funny or like.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, there's a difference of, like, this. The same guys who do that stuff are also the same guys who would, like, take a, like, pull their shirt up to take a picture of their abs.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Which is something I will never.

[John Feidelberg]

If I, I could be, like, the.

[Kevin Clancy]

The most fit guy in the world. You will never catch me doing. Right. You know, I'll just never do that. I'll pop my top off at Lake Placid.

[John Feidelberg]

Quicker, Quicker than I would right now.

[Kevin Clancy]

But I'm not gonna be like, yo, look at this.

[John Feidelberg]

You know, I, I, I don't know.

[Kevin Clancy]

Actually, I say that now, but I do hate eating well and working out so much that if I ever committed to it and did it, I'd probably never wear a shirt again.

[John Feidelberg]

Like, if I, if I went through hell for this. You're all gonna look at this all the time.

[Kevin Clancy]

But the.

[Jackie]

I have a question for the guys, actually, for you guys. Sundresses. What do you think that that is?

[Kevin Clancy]

I don't, I think that's an Internet thing.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah. I don't dislike them by any stretch.

[Kevin Clancy]

Imagination.

[John Feidelberg]

But I'm not like, I think you.

[Kevin Clancy]

Can look, it's sundress season. I think you look cute, pretty, very attractive in it. But it's not like, like I understood the Internet trend of like yoga pants.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

You see great asses. Right.

[Jackie]

Like you even think a sundress is like.

[Kevin Clancy]

I don't think, I think of it as like a short, shorter, flowy.

[John Feidelberg]

I was thinking more. It's short is. Yeah. I'm probably picturing short but I think it obviously long straps and the heavies out. Yeah.

[Jackie]

Emphasis on the heavies.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Over the, over the back of the neck. Like whatever.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah. Yeah. So a sundress ain't so bad now that I'm thinking.

[Kevin Clancy]

But I, I always, maybe maybe I'm. Maybe I'm confused. I always, I guess just because I'm an ass man. I was, I'm always thinking about that.

[John Feidelberg]

Part of the anatomy when I was.

[Kevin Clancy]

So in my regard. So, so when guys like it's sundress season, they're talking about the tits, titties.

[John Feidelberg]

Oh, I think so.

[Kevin Clancy]

Cuz that's why I was always confused. I was like I can't even see your ass. That shows how little I care about tits. I'm like what? I don't. But so I guess that makes sense. I always thought it was an ass thing and you were kind of like what's underneath there? Sort of like was the vibe as opposed to like great.

[Pablo]

That's what I thought. But I think it's just cuz like my guy friends in college would talk about sundresses and I didn't get it. Like that was such a good question. And they talked about it as if like if a girl like their girlfriend was wearing a sundress they would be able to like it any moment. Like go into like a corner and like. But no one was actually doing that.

[Kevin Clancy]

So like like I, I, I did think of it. Not quite as perverted as your friends, but I guess if it is like an easy access thing. Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Not like I can you in any.

[Kevin Clancy]

Second, but it's like just a, a little breeze of wind.

[John Feidelberg]

They're like, who knows? You know that's, that's a crazy that that I feel like the whole sundress thing is. And maybe it's just because it's the first time I heard it. But it's like a college age men.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Where it's like as. First of all you're more able to get rowdy about stuff where you fuck these women. You have fantasies like I might fuck in this bar bathroom. Guess what boys? You won't that shit.

[Kevin Clancy]

And even if you could like, like that's a 27 thing too. If you do that after the age.

[John Feidelberg]

27 year in the bathroom like twice and been asked multiple times and I'm like, no, I don't want to go fucking the bath.

[Kevin Clancy]

You see that thing on the Internet where you flush the toilet? The fecal matter goes everywhere.

[John Feidelberg]

I'm not doing that like at all. Like when you're at that age, like what bars I go to now, I probably have a pretty good chance of in the bathroom in the sense that like it's a quad.

[Jackie]

Okay.

[John Feidelberg]

I just feel like it's, it's less busy. Like the bars you're at in college, you're not, you can't be in the bathroom. There's people in there the whole time. The door never even closes to the bathroom in college. But the, but I think you're right.

[Kevin Clancy]

Though in that like, I think it's almost like you're like coming out of hibernation. It's, it's warm. We're going to go and party. We're going to be doing day parties. We're going to be outside drinking rooftops.

[John Feidelberg]

It's more of the whole thing.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jackie]

Also it's like your guys's definition. Like when I think of a sundress, I think of like a long flowy dress that's like oh like cute, whatever. So then every time you guys say like we love. Yeah. To your.

[John Feidelberg]

No.

[Kevin Clancy]

I think of it as like probably like almost your knees.

[Jackie]

Okay.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like, like a little bit modest but.

[Pablo]

Not like I think of a sundress as a long dress too. So I feel like. I just want to say short dresses but it sounds.

[Kevin Clancy]

No, because I think the flowiness of like a short dress, that kind of.

[John Feidelberg]

Like I actually prefer the longer one because I, I think that.

[Kevin Clancy]

I'll tell you what it really is.

[John Feidelberg]

That hugs the ass.

[Kevin Clancy]

The Macy now you're thinking of like.

[John Feidelberg]

The skin maxi dress is far superior to the sundress.

[Pablo]

But a loose maxi dress.

[Kevin Clancy]

No, that's not a maxi dress.

[Pablo]

He's thinking of like a fashion nova.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like, like, I mean like the stripper dresses like the really tight all the way to the floor maxi dresses are.

[Pablo]

Yeah, yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Butt plug, one of them. You got a 12 inch platform, plastic heels. Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Sit on my lap for $20 in.

[John Feidelberg]

A minute, you know. Yeah. That's where it's at. But maxi dress, platform travel with a pole on you.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah. The maxi dress superior to the sundress for sure.

[Jackie]

Yeah, yeah, it's fine.

[Kevin Clancy]

What do you mean?

[Jackie]

What the, the Sundress. This is why we're so confused. Every single year you guys bring up sundresses cuz it's like the sundress.

[Kevin Clancy]

I don't think any guy would say a sundress is to your feet.

[Jackie]

Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm saying.

[Kevin Clancy]

It's like so I think you guys have it wrong.

[Pablo]

No, no, I think you're wrong.

[John Feidelberg]

I mean we're the ones yelling it.

[Kevin Clancy]

Let's see, let's just see. I'm just gonna google sundress, see what happens.

[Pablo]

But even you being like maxi dress. Like a maxi dress, no girl would think of a tight dress.

[Jackie]

Yeah, exactly. I'm thinking of like a tight long dress.

[Kevin Clancy]

These are all sundresses. None of them are long. I guess that one. But like what, So a maxi just means long?

[Jackie]

Maxi means long, yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

What?

[Pablo]

A tight maxi dress is like barely a thing.

[Kevin Clancy]

I mean this is probably an age thing, but there was a time for sure.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

For me they were out there and I was like, this is great. That was. I, I. No one made it an Internet thing, but I was running around going, it's maxi dressing.

[John Feidelberg]

It was. But like it was pre. Like I remember, I, I remember vividly like the first time I heard it because I was like what are you guys talking about? And it was at Potbellies at Florida State and but like that was still a little pre Internet, right? That was like probably 009, something like that.

[Kevin Clancy]

These are.

[John Feidelberg]

The Internet existed but just not what it is today.

[Kevin Clancy]

But there's also, you know, we, we talked about before like the urban legends that made it without the Internet. Like there are just certain things that catch on word of mouth. Like I don't know why or how, but sundresses was one of them. There's some guy out there probably like in like 1962 who's like, hey fellas, you know, it's great.

[John Feidelberg]

Conversation. I was like, I was Steve Carell and 40 year old virgin. They're like, dude, you're so hot. And I'm like, yeah, they look like munchkins kind. I feel like that's how munchkin's wives are dressed at home while they're at the candy.

[Kevin Clancy]

That's great, man.

[John Feidelberg]

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[Kevin Clancy]

But yeah, we were talking about Love Island a little bit. I mean, Love island is a cultural phenomenon. Yeah. I fundamentally do not understand the people, the fans of this show who are such fans of this show that they don't like what has happened this season. The people who are like it, it's. There's nobody in love and there's no real connections. And what do you. We're throwing these people into a adult summer camp for three weeks and watching them. What are you talking about?

[John Feidelberg]

Turn on basketball. Being like, wasn't a good bounce pass. That's exactly what it is.

[Kevin Clancy]

You're the old man being like, you.

[John Feidelberg]

Know, a dunk's still worth two points, you know, whatever.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like that, that, that to me is crazy. Like there are, there are couples who make it and become a real thing. But like, for the most part, we watch reality show for like sex and gossip and drama, sex, drugs and rock and roll. Like, they've delivered big time. I mean, this is, We've had multiple people kicked off. We'd have like the people be like, there's no real couples. Like, who fucking cares? And I'll tell you what, there's no real couples from the other ones either. There's maybe like a couple, but it's like these people are all reality TV stars now. Yeah, that's what they are, you know.

[Jackie]

Yeah, I, I think maybe like I, I haven't, I've. I'm a few episodes behind. But like I will say at the end it does like kind of tie it up in a nice bow. So maybe they're just kind of like worried it's not going to be like that.

[Kevin Clancy]

That I understand that, like we're at the end of the show and there's one. Not even anymore. There was one couple closed off and it's like, so who's gonna win? But it's like, are there?

[John Feidelberg]

We win Love Island.

[Kevin Clancy]

It's, there's a hundred thousand dollar prize for like the couple who makes it to the end or like who, like America votes or somebody votes, like you're the best couple. It's like a afterthought. It's, you know, 50,000.

[John Feidelberg]

How long are they there for if.

[Kevin Clancy]

You, if you start to finish? It's like six weeks.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Yeah, six weeks.

[Kevin Clancy]

I mean, we're on 28, 6, 30 episodes.

[John Feidelberg]

Like six weeks. Grand prize, 25 grand. No, thanks.

[Kevin Clancy]

That's what I mean too though.

[John Feidelberg]

I'm Just gonna have fun, guys. But I think that's what people do.

[Kevin Clancy]

I think that's why it's a good. Like, there are some people probably scheming and scamming to try to win here. I mean, some of these people are 21 years old. If you won 25 grand, it'd be a big deal. But it's not enough that it's like survival.

[John Feidelberg]

Just come work at Bartol and win a video game contest.

[Kevin Clancy]

For real.

[John Feidelberg]

Hand that out weekly over here.

[Kevin Clancy]

But for the most part, I think people are going on to either, like, actually try to find love or just like the experience and then to be. Try to get famous and all that sort of.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

If it was like a million dollar prize, I think then people would be like, let's pretend to be in love the whole time. I think some people go with that idea and eventually it falls off or, you know, they get exposed or whatever. But I don't know, man. Like, I went early this season, it was kind of just like the courting, the courtship process. And I was like, this sucks. And then it got crazy and dramatic and fighting and drama. And I was like, let's go.

[John Feidelberg]

What's. What's the. I know the lady being raised racist.

[Kevin Clancy]

So there's two ladies that got kicked out for being a racist. Two, Two. So there was one that got kicked out after two days. She is Cuban or Hispanic of some sort. And there was a video of her talking about a guy she was dating, and she called him my N word. Always a gray area. Like, can they say it? Can they not?

[John Feidelberg]

I don't know.

[Kevin Clancy]

Growing up in New York, like, Hispanics, Puerto Ricans, Dominicans, they said it. It's allowed. Mexicans, I think, in California. Say it. If you're not in those spots, you can't say it.

[John Feidelberg]

I don't know. You know what I mean? Like, just because I'm Venezuelan, I don't know where you can draw the line.

[Kevin Clancy]

I don't know. Someone's got a map out there and they.

[John Feidelberg]

You know, there's certain.

[Kevin Clancy]

You know, if you're. If you're Uruguayan, you can't.

[John Feidelberg]

I don't know.

[Kevin Clancy]

So that was the first one. And it was. But it was so quick. It was like, we don't know you. We're not gonna deal with this drama. Let's just get the out of here. This girl now, she was like the only one in a couple probably was gonna win and was one of the most popular girls. And she was saying that her eyes looked slanty and used the C word. So she was getting some sort of cosmetic shit done, and she said, whenever I get this done, I look. And that. That surfaced and they fucking kicked her out, which was like, I. I was like, you. They are in a pickle right now because they set a precedent to kick this. Nobody off. Now you have, like, your star, and are you going to stick to it? Like, I doubt it. And they fucking did it. So whether or not, you know, there's a bunch of people saying, they. She didn't. You know, it was a long time ago or. It's not that bad of a slur. All these arguments that are not good arguments to make, but there's a discourse about that. Yeah, well, that's a whole other thing. The fact that the network was just like, nope, we did this for you. We're gonna do this for you. Pretty impressive, considering that it was like, this is our. One of our cash cows.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

I think they were probably like, we're gonna have a million more seasons of this, and we can't jeopardize the whole institution for this one. So, like, get the out.

[Jackie]

They also, like, notoriously get. Like, the Asian community is like. Because they never have Asians on the show. So they're always. They're already kind of like, you guys hate Asians. So it would have been a really tough look.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah. They just, like, let that slide.

[Jackie]

Or if they just like.

[Kevin Clancy]

And in general, I think. I mean, there's a lot of people who are just like, that's not that bad of a word. And it's like, I don't.

[John Feidelberg]

I wouldn't be saying that publicly. It's not really up for me to decide, is it?

[Kevin Clancy]

I mean, I'm not gonna be obtuse. There are certain slurs worse than others. Yeah, we know that. But that's one that's like, you can't say that.

[John Feidelberg]

You know, I only have one. I won't say. Everything else has got. Is. It's got to be the right time. Right. Company. Right. I've never said mo. Not never. But I. I rarely ever say any of them. But, like.

[Kevin Clancy]

But I could say MC and guinea.

[John Feidelberg]

Right now if I was like, I got this joke, Justice. It needs that word. I probably would say it. But we're talking about the N word, right? No, that's the one I wanted. That's the one. Because even like, that one, the. I think I've said it before on the show. I always think about. I can't stop thinking about Louis CK's N word bit because I just don't get it.

[Kevin Clancy]

What? The one where he's talking with Seinfeld and all them or.

[John Feidelberg]

No, no, no. In that he talks about how he uses the N word if he's like. Because I don't even use it like racially, like, I'll like. And he has a bit about. I think he was in Seattle or something like that and some white guy with a ponytail made his coffee and it was the best coffee ever had. And he walked out, had a sip and went, damn, that N word. Made the. Out of this coffee.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, that doesn't.

[John Feidelberg]

Don't get the joke. And it bothers me so much. Yeah, but like, that's what I mean. Like, even in that sense, I don't get how that worked.

[Kevin Clancy]

His bit with Chris Rock, you don't talk about that one. Oh, because. Because I thought he was sort of saying in that regard that, like he says Ricky Gervais is the biggest N word. I know something like that.

[John Feidelberg]

Oh, really?

[Kevin Clancy]

Meaning it's kind of like anybody can behave in a way.

[John Feidelberg]

But that's like that always.

[Kevin Clancy]

I don't know.

[John Feidelberg]

What does that even mean?

[Kevin Clancy]

Dude, it's the only time I've really agreed with Seinfeld, like, ever, when he was just like, I just. I don't know what you guys are talking about.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, like, that's fine.

[Kevin Clancy]

You guys can do that. I don't do that.

[John Feidelberg]

At the time, Seinfeld was kind of the wet blanket on the conversation.

[Kevin Clancy]

I mean, it definitely was a wet blanket, but it.

[John Feidelberg]

But he was right. It was right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

But anyway, so there is a. I can't decide where I fall on this. Like, as a regular human, I don't want people to be bullied and to go through, like, online hate and to be crying and all that. Like, I'm not a savage. If any of these people walked in and like, I wouldn't like kick them while they're down or make fun of them or whatever. But you go on the show, it's the most popular show in the world. You know what you're getting into. You sign up to be these like crazy sexual, backstabbing, gossiping, whatevers that comes with a level of scrutiny. Right. And then on top of it, they also all are planning to come out famous and with followers and have a. Like, so if you go in there being like, I am going to become this thing, then there's also potential downside too. You know what I mean? Like, that shouldn't be like totally risk free. That it's just like I get to Go on the show. I'm going to come out with a million followers, brand deals, sponsorships, and I'm famous and I don't have to risk anything. That's not really how it works, you know, the risk is that along the way, while trying to become a star, you might say some shit or do some shit where America starts to think less of you or whatever. I don't know. I think that's kind of fair game. Like, I agree. There's just a lot of like, like the show puts up warnings now, like a thing on the screen, like, remember, this is Love island, not Hate Island. And, like, keep the online discourse to, like, a minimum and why are you bullying and all this. The host has come out and been like, I don't understand why these girls are getting bullied or these guys are getting bullied. It's like, well, they're behaving like savages on television in an effort to become, like, famous and rich. And we don't like that. And like, so you want, you want the ratings, you want the attention. The network wants the ratings, the attention. The people want the attention and the money and all that. And then we have to, like, be like, this is just. Everyone's so nice.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, that's just not. Well, that'd be like, that. I, I, I used to think like that, that, like, you should have to be nice and all this stuff. But, like, I remember when I, when I realized that for all of history, there have been people who create content, and for all of history, there have been people who hate it and on it. It's just we, people who create content have decided to step into the living room and listen to them. You just don't have to. So, like, just don't do that. Don't have to check stuff. I also like the say whatever they want. You don't have to look at it.

[Kevin Clancy]

But I would take that a step further and be like, if you are the type to get upset by this.

[John Feidelberg]

Don'T go on Love island or don't look at it. One of the other. Right, right, right.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yes, yes. At that point, it's on you to be like, I am doing this thing where the world might love me or hate me or somewhere in between, and I have to accept the consequences and handle those consequences myself and not put it on America to be like, watch our show, give us money, give us ratings, make it nice things. Right. That's just not. Especially when a lot of like, I, I don't think for the most part, I actually think America's Being pretty fair. There's a girl in the show. This is actually interesting. You, you don't even really need to watch the show to, like, have an opinion on this. Everybody. This time, I think at least this is the first time I've noticed it, they went in and they gave their Instagram and their phone to a person to run it while they're in the villa because they can't have their phones. And I think that this was the first time that people did that because it was like, I want to capitalize while this is happening. I want posts going up. I want people putting up clips and all that. And all those people were obviously very focused on becoming famous and getting followers. And the one girl who didn't has the most followers, really. Her name's Amaya. She doesn't speak English. She's. I, actually, my hot take is I, I don't find her to be, like, as endearing and lovable as America does, I find. I think it's like, I, I think it's stupid. She's, I mean, she's stupid. And, and the argument is she has.

[Jackie]

A big heart, but, like, yes, she's.

[Kevin Clancy]

She has a big heart. She's a wonderful girl. Again, if she came in and, like, talked, I' great. You're, you're a delight. If I was like, I have to pretend that I want to have, like, a sexual encounter with this girl, I'll.

[John Feidelberg]

Show you clips of it.

[Kevin Clancy]

It's like, I, it's the same conversations I had with Shay. She's like, what's your favorite color?

[John Feidelberg]

What do you like to eat?

[Kevin Clancy]

Like, oh, my God, this is so funny. It's like you're talking to a child.

[Pablo]

When guys want to hook up with her. I'm almost, like, creeped out, and I.

[Kevin Clancy]

Think the guys are kind of.

[John Feidelberg]

Is English not her first language?

[Kevin Clancy]

So this is the thing. So when she started, she's Dominican. She's a Dominican from New York, but she doesn't really speak Spanish well. And in the beginning, a lot of people were like, a lot of Spanish. Hispanic people were like, why can't this girl speak Spanish if she's Dominican? And then a lot of people were like, oh, no. In New York, if you grew up Hispanic, you kind of know, like, Spanglish. So in the beginning it was like, why can't she speak Spanish? Now it's like, why can't she speak English?

[John Feidelberg]

I was like, what language does this girl speak?

[Jackie]

Is she getting dumber?

[Kevin Clancy]

I think so. I think, like, I, I, I, I thought some of the Old videos of her Instagram. She doesn't talk and actually like, she does. I'm like, did this girl have like, trauma?

[Pablo]

Every single episode. She uses like an idiom in the wrong way.

[Kevin Clancy]

The wrong way. She said she has moths in her stomach instead of butterflies.

[Pablo]

Yesterday she was like, it's something I hold close to my, like, chest or like, hold.

[Kevin Clancy]

It's always just like a little, which.

[Pablo]

Is like, supposed to be like a secret. But she was saying something like she loves so much. Like, she's just like, yeah, she'll combine.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like close to the chest with near my heart. And it's like, well, which one did you mean? And she says, opportunity. Opportunity. She says, gratu. Gratu. Instead of gratitude. She said gratitude.

[John Feidelberg]

She's just like, gratitude. She's not even close.

[Kevin Clancy]

She's like, my anxiety is through the roof today.

[Pablo]

I'm like, she like compares stuff that like, doesn't make sense. They walk out on the, on the dock and it's like a beautiful view. And she's like, I love looking at the water. She's like, in New York, sometimes I'll go on the Manhattan Bridge and look at the water.

[Kevin Clancy]

It's like you talking to like, you.

[John Feidelberg]

Know, again, I don't know what you.

[Kevin Clancy]

Mean, but it's like if you go on America's biggest show and you can't speak and you say a bunch of like, silly dumb, it's gonna make people be like, this girl's kind of dumb. And especially if I was on the show, I would be terrified to be on the show with her and be like, I, I don't, I'm not attracted to you. I don't think you know what I mean.

[John Feidelberg]

Like, I'd be like, oh, now I'm like, it's like hate crime.

[Kevin Clancy]

And so.

[John Feidelberg]

But the fact that she bang this down syndrome chick. So America loves me. That's all right.

[Kevin Clancy]

That's basically what it feels like. And there have been three guys that she, she, she, she like really quickly will like, kiss you and call you pet names and, and a couple of the guys overreacted and they were like, whoa, whoa, you're taking it too fast. But three different guys were like, you are too much too fast and I don't like it. And every, and I think that's pretty valid feedback. And every time she, she snaps, she goes from this like, lovable, like, dumb, like, good hearted person like you, I hate you. I want you know, it's like, so I think all the guys are like, you're dumb and you're crazy. But anybody who speaks bad about her, it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Oh my God. But I do like the fact that somebody put up a tick tock. That was like thinking about the fact that Amaya joined the show without giving her phone to anyone, meaning she really just showed up to find love and experience this. And she's got 2 million followers on each on TikTok and Instagram. So part of me did like that, that it was like the genuine. Like, it's rare. I think for the most part if you do content and shit, you have to work at it and game the system and be a little bit phony. But if you really nail the genuine aspect, you'll exceed all of it. Yeah, but the, the, the main girl who got just got kicked out for the racist Asian slur had another influencer running her account. This is how crazy Love Island's gotten that girl. She was already kind of an influencer, but that girl started getting famous and getting hate for being this girl's Instagram handler. I was like, this show is a juggernaut. If you could become famous for just running someone's account. And a lot of people were giving her shit for the way she was running it. And she put up a video being like, oh, I'm sorry. When Sierra comes home and has a million followers, like, she's about to hit a million followers. Like, what do you think of that? And that day the racial slur came out and she had a bad episode and she just lost hundreds of thousands. She was like at 700, 800, 900, and then down to like 500. So imagine being like, she said she sent all these text updates. She was like, she doesn't have her phone, but she's going to see them. You know, you're almost in a million followers. And then it's like, actually the world thinks you're a racist and we only have 300,000 followers now.

[Jackie]

And like, I would love to hear the conversation of the producer because they also have to go through a psych because a lot of people have killed themselves.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like, honestly, three people killed themselves.

[John Feidelberg]

It's amazing. It's amazing. This show is amazing. That's so funny. Like, you gotta risk something. Risk.

[Jackie]

But, like, because it's such a. Okay, I know. I feel like a mile. It's just so jarring to like, you know, go from no fame. No fame or whatever. So they have to go through like three days of.

[Kevin Clancy]

They have therapists on site and like.

[Jackie]

Psych evaluation before you, like, get your phone back. And can enter the real world world. But like, I really would love to hear that conversation.

[Kevin Clancy]

That needs to be a new show. Coming home from Love island, just watch.

[John Feidelberg]

People be like, holy.

[Kevin Clancy]

Because they do. They do some challenges and where they'll be like, like, who do you guys think are the most trustworthy? Who do you think is the best couple? And they do their thing and then they're like, here's who America voted on. And it's like the people who they thought were the best couple are at the bottom. And who are the most trustworthy are the least trustworthy. And these people go into their confessionals and they're like, what? Like clearly, like, oh, I thought we were the it couple and America hates us. Like, what's going on? And then they start thinking, well, are they seeing things about me that they don't like? Are they seeing things about him that they don't like? And they just get all up.

[John Feidelberg]

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[Kevin Clancy]

It's, it's like, it's like summer camp.

[John Feidelberg]

With six weeks every night.

[Kevin Clancy]

It's, it's every night but hump day.

[John Feidelberg]

So it's four nights a week for six weeks. So it's like 24 episodes.

[Kevin Clancy]

We're on, we're on 28 right now. I think there's like another week. So It'd be like 30 something episodes.

[John Feidelberg]

In the UK version. I thought I nailed that. I was like, I was pretty good math. You were right there.

[Pablo]

In the UK version, it's like 665 episodes.

[Kevin Clancy]

Crazy. They film, they film on like, you know, whatever happening on a Monday is probably out on like a Tuesday or Wednesday. It's just, it's a non stop.

[John Feidelberg]

I, I used to always think about this when I was a kid watching Red Sox games because Dennis Drinkwater was always there. He was the guy who sat behind home plate. And like, you probably haven't seen videos, but like, if there was a walk off home run, Dennis Drinkwater was halfway out of the building.

[Kevin Clancy]

It's one of the more impressive things.

[John Feidelberg]

By the time the ball hit land, like he was gone. And. And that's why, you know, you always noticed him because he had very blonde hair and you just knew giant glass and stuff like that. And I remember talking to my dad where I was like, if Dennis Drinkwater lives across the street from Fenway park, this is a big commitment.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah. Just so get here every day. Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Every night. And it's a four hour cases before like MLB updated rules and stuff. Like it's a four hour game every night. He was there and I was like, that's such dedication to this.

[Kevin Clancy]

For watching the show.

[John Feidelberg]

Saying, like, just to watch this is. That's a lot.

[Kevin Clancy]

There are times where I'm like, I just want to watch a movie.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

I can't. It's right in the middle of the night. It's, it's. I have like the Mets and Love island at all times. Like my two full time jobs. It's a lot.

[Jackie]

I'm like, not caught up and people are like mad at me. Like, I can't like talk to friends.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, you dumb. But, but the amount of people. There's two things going on. There's. Everyone is now conspiracy. You would hate this. The amount of conspiracy theories that the producers are. It's a lot like everything that barstool's fake.

[John Feidelberg]

Yes.

[Kevin Clancy]

The producers are producing everything. They're making sure that these people go home and they don't go home. And like, I, I just think it's a show.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

But. But what's. What they want to happen is not happening. So they're like, this is so overproduced. The producers are. It's like, I think the producers are at home going like, yeah, yeah. Producers had the nerve to say, this couple, this cast, there's too much sex going on and they're too out of control. Like, you know this is a reality TV show.

[John Feidelberg]

Right?

[Kevin Clancy]

Like, people have convinced themselves this is an actual like love experiment.

[John Feidelberg]

And I'm like, is Love island what we did?

[Kevin Clancy]

Love is blind.

[John Feidelberg]

Love is blind.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah. That. That's like a toned down version. This is like everyone's each other kissing each other.

[John Feidelberg]

There is a lot of.

[Kevin Clancy]

They make a lot of like, they do. They have this one challenge where everyone's spitting milk on each other. It's. It's aggressive. Yeah. You know, it's something that a producer.

[John Feidelberg]

Who has our proclivities was like tucking it up. I've seen that.

[Kevin Clancy]

I honestly, there are definitely times where I'm like, I would not want to be wearing a bathing suit with no shirt right now.

[John Feidelberg]

Not during this challenge, man. But then there's other like our guys time for the milk challenge. My shirt would already be off, but I win, right?

[Kevin Clancy]

There's another girl who just had like a full blown, like, again, as a, as a guy who's gone through some of that before. I was like, oh, I've. I've been through these.

[John Feidelberg]

What?

[Kevin Clancy]

She's just like. I mean, she went through like, yeah, like a psychotic. Like, she just snapped on this guy. Like, like you. You was already like, fight him and kill him. And I was like, that seems like most relationships. But she, like, people wanted her kicked off the show, said she was a danger. Like, so there's just a lot of like crazy drama like that.

[John Feidelberg]

It is funny that like, like, if a guy said that to a woman.

[Kevin Clancy]

He'S kicked off the show immediately.

[John Feidelberg]

Immediately a woman says it to a guy.

[Kevin Clancy]

It's like, come on, guys. Dude.

[John Feidelberg]

And. And then, and then, bro, will you guys stop being.

[Kevin Clancy]

And not only that she had like.

[John Feidelberg]

Up, but like, it, like, like that is the normal reaction was like. I remember talking to my mom about it once. I was like, there was like someone where like a girl hit a guy. Like, she can't do that.

[Kevin Clancy]

She can.

[John Feidelberg]

He can take it. Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

And then this has like a good week where she like doesn't berate people and like kind of is nice to the guy that she's seeing now. And they're like, hooda Redemption arc. This is amazing.

[Pablo]

I went to high school. I went to high school with Huda.

[John Feidelberg]

You did?

[Kevin Clancy]

You went to high school?

[Pablo]

Isn't that crazy where she's only like two years older than me and she like a five year old kid.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, she. She is that dancer. Is that true? She a dancer? I heard that like some people were in my DMS being like, I've been.

[Pablo]

To be honest, like, I have not seen a strip club within like 30 miles of where we live. But also like, yeah, I think it is true. I think it's true. And then. Yeah, I don't know. She was, she like was really into acapella in high school.

[Kevin Clancy]

But she's. I mean, she's like, oh my God. I think she's Iranian or Palestine or.

[Pablo]

Something that I was about to say. She's Palestinian. In Casa Amore, basically, they like put all the girls in a new House with new guys. So, like, they split them up. And there's, like, one of the guys that was an IDF soldier.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[Pablo]

And they liked.

[Kevin Clancy]

They're about to, like, Bloods in the Crips.

[John Feidelberg]

No way. That's.

[Kevin Clancy]

I don't think either of them are like that, you know, hardcore, but it was, like, this little.

[John Feidelberg]

It's crazy.

[Kevin Clancy]

It was really possible the. There was some. Some Arab dude. Elan.

[Jackie]

Got it, got it, got it.

[Kevin Clancy]

Oh, there's some Arab dude, like, on. Not on the show, just on Instagram, said, like, he wanted Huda. And he said, like, there's an old. I guess an old saying or adage or whatever in my culture. He's like, why do Arab men like Hispanic women so much? Because they're so easy to deal with, basically being like, arab women are the craziest. So. And, I mean, this girl was not. So. You would have loved her.

[John Feidelberg]

Huda. Huda.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, she was.

[John Feidelberg]

Is she the one that cried because someone, like, pulled the chair out? I saw a clip of that. Yeah.

[Jackie]

Oh, yes.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

That's when she was, like, full peak.

[John Feidelberg]

She's.

[Kevin Clancy]

She.

[John Feidelberg]

That. She's the meme. Like, my perfect date. He knows.

[Pablo]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

So she.

[Kevin Clancy]

She was. She put the show on her back for a couple of weeks, and then a bunch of other people, like, started to get crazy, too. But I just. These people who are like, there's too much sex and not enough love and too much drama and gossip and backstabbing.

[John Feidelberg]

I'm like, that shows awesome. You fudgeing? Kidding me?

[Kevin Clancy]

I would never, ever watch a reality show for anything other than. Than the trash.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

The people were like, who's gonna be in love? Like, I. I guess there's a lot of girls out there and a lot of people who like the actual love to it. I'm like, I will say no, thank you.

[Jackie]

I think that they overproduced Casa More. That was when I was a go.

[Kevin Clancy]

Well, I think the problem is when you don't have actual, like, Casa Amore and movie night works when there are people who are, like, in a couple and then you watch them cheat, basically, there was nobody in a couple. It's like, all right, this doesn't matter, you know? So that. That. That part lacked. But. But, like, the moral police being like, this is. This is too much and should be more about love. But, bro, there's, like, people. People are doing bar, like, like, game watches for.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, dude.

[Kevin Clancy]

It's a. It's a cultural thing.

[John Feidelberg]

I saw someone tweet a picture on A street in New York. And it was like. It was like a gathering I, like, haven't seen since, like, the moon landing. Yeah. It was like. It was like a. Like a TV in a storefront looking.

[Kevin Clancy]

On the outside, Right?

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah. And it was like, who's you ever. Everyone gathered. Watch who's Love Island? I was like, what the.

[Kevin Clancy]

That's why when people are like, who the cares about this show?

[John Feidelberg]

I'm like, oh, a million millions.

[Kevin Clancy]

It's the number one show. I think, like, billions of minutes have been streamed. It's a little bit skewed because it's every night. But, like, I also don't get this. I get. I mean, I get this all the time with a lot of the content I make because it's, like, pop culture related, but. And you've seen this on, like, barstool comments, too, where it'll be like, you're right, the Pacers did, like, outplay them in the fourth quarter last night. Being like, you should be talking about sports. And I'm like, that comment sucks and is boring.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

You know what I mean?

[John Feidelberg]

Like.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like, your examples of what you think I should be talking about. Like, you think I should make a video about, like, the amount of free throws the Pacers hit in the fourth quarter. No one's gonna watch that.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

And I always just think about, like, if you were to go to a bar and, like, sit down with your buddy, and he would be like, yo, I got a story. I. I was dating this one girl, and I hooked up with this other girl, and I got caught, and it was fighting, and you'd be like, oh, you know, that's a story.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

And then you just sat down. You were like, did you see what the free throw percentage difference between the games? Yeah, whatever, man. I don't care here. Like, good stories are related to all that kind of. You know what I mean?

[John Feidelberg]

The. I feel like we dealt with it forever, and it's not just us, like, people before us who talked about other things. But, like, I. I remember, like, it was like back in the day where it was like, you're watching Blank, the game's on. And, like. But, like, that, like, really affected me. I'd be like, I want it. Totally.

[Kevin Clancy]

I used to, like, fake it if I needed to. Oh, yeah, I was totally watching the game.

[John Feidelberg]

It's like, yeah, I know. That's just not what I'm on.

[Kevin Clancy]

That's pre 27.

[John Feidelberg]

But.

[Kevin Clancy]

But what really bothers me is the same people who are like, who cares? Are, you know, deeply invested in who Nicky Smokes is now.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

You know, in a couple weeks, we'll be watching the barstool beach house. Like, it's the most, you know, the end all. Be all. It's like. It's just. Do you care about the people then? You want to know about their sex lives and their personal lives and all that. And if you don't, you default to who cares?

[John Feidelberg]

Right.

[Kevin Clancy]

It's like you just care about different people.

[John Feidelberg]

Just no one takes ownership. Like, I don't care. That's okay. You don't have to care.

[Kevin Clancy]

And also. Also, I don't, like, care.

[John Feidelberg]

But, like, people just want to watch the drown. You know, people have to say we or who.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

So, like, they can pretend no one does.

[Kevin Clancy]

Right?

[John Feidelberg]

Like, right. Just so you don't care.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like, when people say who is watching this show?

[John Feidelberg]

And I'm like, literally, here are the stats, bro.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like, bajillions of people are watching it.

[John Feidelberg]

You could be alone on it if you want. You could be alone on your own. Your own island.

[Kevin Clancy]

Go rewatch, like, ESPN Classic Games. That's fine. Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

For you.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[Pablo]

Guys are like. Like, some, like, whatever.

[John Feidelberg]

Just.

[Pablo]

Guys are, like, so gay if you're watching that. It's like, if I hear a guy's watching Love Island, I'm like.

[Kevin Clancy]

And there's. I mean, there's so many. So many things that it's like I. You know, my boyfriend watched one episode, and now look at him. He's, like, on the edge of his.

[John Feidelberg]

Bed being like, you voted them off.

[Kevin Clancy]

It's just. I think it's actually a very. If you can get over the fact that it's, like, obviously skewed female. Other than that, it's just, like, primal. Like, everybody's invested, and it's like, they're who?

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

And then they turned on who and they. Yeah, I mean, it's just that to me, that's like the. Almost the. The lowest common denominator of entertainment. I can't believe people even debate that. But. But it is that. That I would. I would pay money to see a live stream of or of Sierra.

[Jackie]

Wait, so, like, where I'm at, again, I'm behind. But I think right now she, like, definitely thinks that she's, like, the next Leah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Totally.

[Jackie]

It. Does she start to get, like. Does she now have a better idea before she left that, like, she's hated or not hated?

[Kevin Clancy]

I think so. No.

[Jackie]

The.

[Kevin Clancy]

The trio of Sierra, Alandria and Shelly. Shelly, definitely. They had. They went from, like, the. The three queens and in one episode, all of America turns on them. They're like. And they, they deserve it. They were, like, just very bitchy, very mean, and very, like, not aware.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

They're like, wait, you guys don't like us? Like, and, and Huda, it's. I mean, it's wild how Huda had, like, this little redemption because Huda becomes a sympathetic figure and Sierra just kind of sits there with her stupid pouty lips being like, oh, really? And then like, boom, you're gone.

[Jackie]

But that's what I'm saying. That's why I love reality tv, because it's like, seriously, you can't ever judge anybody. Nobody's good, nobody's bad. Everyone's just like, has their weeks and.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like, yeah, ups and downs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's too short of a time.

[Jackie]

And it's like, like, sure. Like, like if she stayed, like, one more week, like, we would have probably liked her again. And then, like, Hoda would.

[Kevin Clancy]

I can understand the difference, though, of being in there. If you were in there and watched her, like, berate somebody and, like, you felt, like, in danger. I wouldn't, I wouldn't. Like, oh, a week later, she's nice. Forget about that.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like, that is a psycho. Horrible. Whereas America can be like, oh, she's being nice now because of the edit and the people there are like that and vice versa with all the other people. Like, once you see some crazy shit, you're probably. Or like, Amaya, like, you're pretty dumb. Where America could be like, you're very cute and funny, where the guy's like, I don't want to talk to you anymore. These are things that if you're. If you're living it, you're probably like this, that you're crazy, you're weird. And you don't just change because one week went by and it's a little different, you know?

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah. Screaming about the Mets is funny. You can watch it for six seconds. Yeah, yeah. When it's your life for half a decade, it gets a little bit.

[Kevin Clancy]

When you hear it everywhere you go, it's a different story. But yeah, that. That girl. And so I guess the. The Una was saying the first girl who got kicked out was quarantined for like, a couple days. And they didn't tell her why she.

[Pablo]

Got kicked out because of, like, how, like, the episodes released every night, they had to wait until her getting kicked out was like, real time, like, live, so she wouldn't get out and tell people that she was kicked out.

[Kevin Clancy]

Oh, so depending on when that. Because that already aired. This one happened pretty quick, I feel like. But.

[Pablo]

But I'm.

[Kevin Clancy]

But even if there's.

[John Feidelberg]

If there's a hotel room and they. You can't leave.

[Kevin Clancy]

Well, and then they don't give you a phone, they don't tell you why you're kicked off. It's like, you're kicked off.

[Pablo]

You get like voted off in the middle for something normal. You're still in the hotel without your, your phone to not, like, spoil for like a while.

[John Feidelberg]

If you lock me in a hotel room for three days, I'd be like, I'm going to need live towels. Like, you can't leave, you can't have your phone. That's fine. Just keep sending cleaning lady up here.

[Kevin Clancy]

I don't think I could do that. Like, I think I would. To use a extremely overused term in the Love island world these days. I think I would crash out if you just locked me in a room. Like, you have to go home, but we're not going to tell you why and you don't know when you're leaving. I would, I would break down the.

[John Feidelberg]

Door because I'd be like, well, what if it's 10 days? What if it's a thousand days? This is.

[Kevin Clancy]

You're in prison at this point.

[John Feidelberg]

I'm a prisoner.

[Kevin Clancy]

You know, that's crazy. But these are probably all the things you. And I'm sure when you sign up, you probably sign up to like, if I kill myself, so be it.

[Jackie]

You know, I'm sure that they send producers in to, like, play puzzles with them, right? Because what do they do for three days?

[Kevin Clancy]

Like, if you're just seriously locked in a.

[John Feidelberg]

You're locked in a hotel room for three days, you're doing one, you're masturbating. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Two things. Hotel rooms are for coming or dying.

[Kevin Clancy]

I have a take that stems from Love island, but I want to extend it beyond. It's about you women, I think. I think you, you all need to retire the phrase. Girls. Girl.

[Jackie]

Oh, yes.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, girls.

[Jackie]

Yeah, that's right.

[Kevin Clancy]

I'm saying someone is a girl's girl. I have never seen someone use the term girls. Girl. Unless they are tearing down another girl. I was saying you're not a girl's girl.

[Pablo]

I don't know if it's like ultra woke of to be like, you're just using that as a reason to, like, on someone.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like, just say, that's exactly it. It's just like, I don't like your behavior. I'm going to Skew it to say that you, like, only care about men or whatever. However you're going to make it fit your narrative. And I'm going to say you're not a girl's girl. Like, I, I, I. It's crazy. It's like, standard. And now, and I think this series in Love island showed it where it's like, a lot of girls were afraid to be viewed as, like, if you don't, like, like another female, that's okay. But they were, like, afraid of being painted a certain light. So they all, like, clicked up and they all then ironically became mean girls.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

You know, it's like, there it became this, like, standard of behavior that is actually the opposite of what the impact you wanted it to have. You know, in the beginning, it probably started out like, it's, do you support girls? Fine. But now it's become a way to weaponize against other girls.

[Pablo]

It's the same thing to me now when people say pick me, I'm like, yeah, what even is that?

[Kevin Clancy]

All these phrases. I mean, we've done it in troll. We lost its meaning. And, you know, every word, eventually it.

[John Feidelberg]

Just gets so used that it doesn't mean anything anymore.

[Kevin Clancy]

I mean, crash out is my favorite one right now because Shay says crash out. She'll be like, if I don't get my chicken nuggets soon, I'm going to crash out. I don't think you know what that means. Yeah, I, I, I mean, if I hear girls girl, I'm like, you're the problem. You're, you're the issue.

[Jackie]

So what? When? I just haven't gotten there yet. When do they.

[Kevin Clancy]

It's mostly Alandria. Alandria is like, the one. Olandria is being like, outing Hooda for being a mom. Outing Hood of for who she's making out with. Talking, like, behind her back and in front of people and then being like, you're not a girls girl. It's like, you, you are the definition.

[Pablo]

It's also like, the people that are like, I'm a girl's girl. And like, Love island, at least go in and immediately like, we're sisters, so you can't do anything.

[Kevin Clancy]

That's what I mean.

[Pablo]

Right away, sisters at all.

[Kevin Clancy]

Right? Everything became very phony because it was like America. Women now want to see, like, girls supporting girls. And it's like, well, not if you don't agree with that girl or whatever. Like, just be real. I don't know. Yeah, you don't like the guy, you don't like the girl. That shouldn't really be a difference, you know?

[Jackie]

Yeah, but it's kind of. That's also why it's like, you can just kind of see everybody's intentions over time, like on reality tv, too. And, like, no matter what you say, like, if you say, like, oh, I'm, like, not toxic, whatever, it's like, don't even. I don't know.

[Kevin Clancy]

Just. Just let it play out.

[John Feidelberg]

We'll see.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

We will decide that for you.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

This.

[Jackie]

This is kind of a hot take. Last thing, but I. A part of me kind of feels like, actually, the Nick and Alandria thing, I have no idea. I haven't seen, like, if they actually keep continuing to flirt or anything, but a part of me. When in Casa More, I felt like she. Wait. I felt like they. The producers realized they screwed up when Nick and Alandra got sent home. And they're like, we can't send home.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah. That might have been a little production.

[Jackie]

So I think that they were like, some. Some producers were like, I. Sorry, I fucked up. To make up for it. They were like, if we put Nick. Because everyone was already shipping them together under jokingly. So I think they were like, may they. If they put them together, that it would kind of distract from the fact. And then. Because also, it's like the conversation between them on that little date just seemed a little forced. And, like, everything seemed a little forced, even though I think that they're adorable together, honestly, from what I've seen, but it seemed forced. And then I think, like, also when Alandria told Shelly and Sierra, they weren't surprised. Like, they had already known. So I think, like, she. Alandria went behind and was like, hey, by the way, the producers made me do this. I don't know why I did it.

[Kevin Clancy]

I can see that. I mean, Alandria was like. I mean, she was the queen. Like, be a girl's girl and then was like, making out with this dude.

[Jackie]

Yeah, exactly. You.

[Kevin Clancy]

You made out with Sierra's dude and talked to her girls girl. It's like, come on. I don't know that. That was also great. The girl got kicked out. Like, if you were to be like, everybody thinks these are real love connections. And this guy's like, I. I want to be closed up. I want to be with you. And she gets the boot. And he's like, okay, I'm staying.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

And then just like, links up with her girlfriend.

[John Feidelberg]

Wait, that's fair. Wait, it's fair.

[Kevin Clancy]

But I'm just saying, if you're like, we're in love. This is it. And then the person gets kicked out. You'd be like, all right, I'm gonna.

[John Feidelberg]

Go home with you because you have the option.

[Kevin Clancy]

Instead, she's like, I'm gonna stay.

[John Feidelberg]

And this other girl, I could win a Toyota Camry. And this other bad 97, the old kind, you know, with a back that's a class one.

[Pablo]

Iris, the girl Iris running her social said Iris tried to leave with TJ in production. Like, wooden letter.

[Kevin Clancy]

Oh, that's crazy because they were together for like a day that would stick around.

[Pablo]

I mean, I don't know.

[John Feidelberg]

If you gave me a choice between.

[Kevin Clancy]

TJ and a Camry, I'd take the Camry. All right, so that's. That's Love Island.

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[Kevin Clancy]

Bro, I was going to say I'll let you finish, but I was like, I love just like canceling things, giving.

[John Feidelberg]

Up on things and being done shit all the time. Never mind. We are not doing that. I saw the Epstein stuff this morning. I was like, yes. I knew it wasn't worth investing five years. Thank fucking God.

[Kevin Clancy]

You had to pay off off on.

[John Feidelberg]

That would have been brutal, man. Like Dante's got to be hanging from a. The hotel room in Essex right now.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yo, that, that's like, any. And when I find out that a show or something is like, oh, never mind. The finale was.

[John Feidelberg]

Yes, exactly. Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Thank God I didn't watch that, man.

[John Feidelberg]

I woke up this morning, it's like, cut on Twitter. And I was like, oh, yes.

[Kevin Clancy]

And, and, and the total opposite, too. When you, when you're the person who sees it through and the finale does suck or something, you're like, like, well, that was. I was telling everyone to watch this. Yeah.

[Jackie]

Stuff too. It's like, oh, yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Did he stuff?

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Did he. That dude. I, I, I, I, I'll never. I mean, I guess I understand it. I know there's a lot of racial implications. I know fame is a big thing, all that stuff. But, like, the people openly with their face and their name on social media being like, let's go, Diddy's free. Also, the amount of people who don't, like, I was by no means an expert on this case, but if you just take, like, a mild interest in it, you can understand what's going on. It turned into, like, a. The prosecution and the government and cops all, like, bit off more. They can chew and they over. They overstepped their bounds and, like, they deserve to have egg on their face because they came up with all these charges that were not good, you know, like, they couldn't prove. They had to do that because they couldn't charge him for assault. Fault, everyone. I can tell you how many people were like, why didn't they just charge him with abuse? They had the evidence for that. No, they had to go for, like, the rico. Yeah, they couldn't. The statute limitations expired. You don't think that a bunch of lawyers would have just said, we have a video. We have evidence. You're going to jail. No, they couldn't do that. So they had to come up with this cockamamie RICO racketeering thing because it was the only way they could maybe nail him on any charges. They didn't. They weren't, like, so arrogant. Like, we're not gonna go for this. We're gonna go for a higher charge and try to prove that and show him. No, they just couldn't do the easy thing because of a crazy rule in my book. Like, I don't know, some things, I feel like if it's 2, 5, 10, 20 years later, enough time's gone by, if you wailed on someone's face and there's video of it, like, I don't know, that should be enough to, to put you away from maybe not a whole sentence, I don't know.

[John Feidelberg]

But yeah, with having seen the video, you should be able to do something.

[Jackie]

Something.

[Kevin Clancy]

And, and that's my thing. My thing is if you want to debate, like, should he have gotten off based on the legalities and the technicalities, fine. If you wanted him to get off after seeing that video, something's wrong.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like, I, I could, I have no problem saying, skirt the justice system, break the rules, throw that guy in jail.

[John Feidelberg]

Well, he's going to jail for a long time, right?

[Kevin Clancy]

I don't think so. I mean, he got, he got prostitution.

[John Feidelberg]

Charges, but they, I, I, I guess I, I'm obviously not super up to date, but I, I thought Both charge.

[Kevin Clancy]

Carries 10 years, maximum of 10. The only thing that gives me hope is they did not give him bail. They said that he was either a danger to flee or, like a danger in general. So if a judge is already saying, we're not even going to let you get out on bail, I would hope that he would give you the maximum or close to the maximum. I also think that prostitution charges could be, like, time served. He's been like, basically done like, a year, as is.

[John Feidelberg]

Right.

[Kevin Clancy]

Maybe you go to jail for, like, like another six months to get out on good behavior. Like, I, I don't think he's gonna be, maybe I'm wrong and maybe, maybe the judge will be like, you dummies, like, missed the chance to throw away a monster. I'm gonna just give him the maximum because justice.

[Pablo]

I also, I don't think it'll be that long because the charge was transportation to engage in prostitution. It wasn't even prostitution.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, it was like, it was like you put, he put some people in a car and drove literally. You know, I think, I think the other where it does get gray is like, he hired escorts, he had willing participants, all that. I think if you, like, have a prostitution charge and it was coercion and all that, that's a different thing. I think if you just, like, hire prostitutes, I don't, I can't imagine someone going, Jeff, like 10 years for that.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah. I mean, it is weird. It's like, where does all the stuff come from?

[Kevin Clancy]

The baby oil?

[John Feidelberg]

Like, all, like, all, like that he was kids and that, like. Yeah, like, where does all that come from?

[Kevin Clancy]

I don't know about the, yeah, the kids stuff.

[John Feidelberg]

I think the, like, as far as I was concerned, like, Diddy was banging children.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah. It became like a nightly monster.

[John Feidelberg]

And Ashton Kutcher was watching. Yeah. And like, where did all that come from?

[Kevin Clancy]

The Dante's of the world. The Dante's. I. I think I. I also really think that there is a. And not just Diddy. In a lot of cases, there's a huge disconnect with people who either haven't gone through it before or don't want to put themselves in someone else's shoes. Who cannot wrap their head around a toxic relationship.

[John Feidelberg]

Yes.

[Kevin Clancy]

Where they're just like, she was. She was happy. She was a willing participant. She had sex with them. She wanted to. Like, until you've been in a spot where it's like, I am in. I'm trapped, or I'm in a bad thing and I can't get out of it. It's like, yeah, we did sleep together. Or, yeah, we did have moments where we were. We had high highs, but we had low lows. Like, if you haven't done that or you don't want to sympathize with that, you'll. You can easily default to like, oh, no, she was complicit. Or she was. It was consent. And then if you've been through some, it's like, it gets a little weird.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

You know what I mean?

[John Feidelberg]

But like. Like, I guess it's a larger comment on, like, why is everyone a pedophile now? Yeah, everybody. Like, it's the literal worst thing you can be.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Why, like, the second you have too much baby oil, is it, like, whether they're a pedophile? Yeah, it's like, I'm a kid celebrity. Every politician is accused of being a pedophile.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

It can't possibly be that they're all benefits.

[Kevin Clancy]

I think that's really what happened too, is people wanted that to be like an Epstein thing where they were like, he's gonna get off because they raided his house to get the tape so that the real higher ups don't get caught. Kids, like, everything has to fit this kid.

[John Feidelberg]

Like, why, why. Why do we get so obsessed with pedophiles? Everyone has to be. Everyone is accused.

[Kevin Clancy]

I do think, though, that there's been enough. Like, when. When. When, like, the. A couple Alex Jones conspiracies end up proving true. Or, you know, the guys. Like, Bohemian Grove is a pretty, like, well accepted thing. It's like a bunch of weird elites get together in, like, the woods and, like, do, like, weird sexual sacrifices and like that. It's pretty.

[John Feidelberg]

I think all that stuff is ghost stories. I think it's like, that's true Detective season one, which it all didn't end up happening there either.

[Kevin Clancy]

I don't know enough about it, but I do think that that was like somewhat proven to like, something happened out there. Whether or not they're like, you know, slitting kids throats and drinking their blood, I don't know, but they're. And then the Epstein stuff, like, there's enough where it's like, I do believe there are high powered people who are pedophiles.

[John Feidelberg]

I believe pedophile everybody.

[Kevin Clancy]

And all of them being tied back to this, like one or two guys is probably not the case. But. Yeah, I mean, that's, it's.

[John Feidelberg]

It's like we like, like because someone is rich and famous, like, we have to find a way to make them like the worst monster possible.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Like, realistically, they're probably just a normal person. Right, Right.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yep, yep. Yeah, I'm sure there's.

[John Feidelberg]

And obviously I'm not speaking to the Epstein's and the ditties. They're. They're bad people.

[Kevin Clancy]

They're still.

[John Feidelberg]

I don't know, I don't know about anybody. But like, as far as I can tell what the courts are telling me, none of them are pedophiles.

[Kevin Clancy]

Right.

[Jackie]

Statistic the other day, that was like one in six people are pedophiles.

[Pablo]

So Pabs is a pedophile. I have a question. Can I ask you guys a question really quick? I was just gonna ask like, since I wasn't alive, does it remind you, like, everyone loving Diddy of like the OJ?

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, yeah, 2.0. Yeah, but OJ 2.0 was like kind of understandable. It was like they just had the Rodney King police brutality, like, racial tensions were like really high. So I think it was sort of like black people were just like happy to win one, you know what I mean? Like, it was understandable that it was like the police, the system, white people, and he represented like that. So I could kind of understand it. The Diddy thing just feels like I like him and I like his music.

[John Feidelberg]

That to me, I don't even like Diddy's music. Well, they did, you know, but like even his music.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, yeah, it was, it was, you.

[John Feidelberg]

Know, like Diddy's on a track or something like that. But like.

[Kevin Clancy]

Right.

[John Feidelberg]

Did he have a lot, like one album? I love Diddy's music.

[Kevin Clancy]

No, it was more his record label and all that. But like, like the people like outside the building, like partying and throwing baby oil on each other. There was one some girl being like, diddy, can you pee on me? Like, and those are the exception. But, like, see those. There's anybody out there doing that.

[John Feidelberg]

But, like, that. Even that, that, like, speaks to, like, more of my thing with the Internet right now, where it's like, everything is made. Like, yeah. Every video. Like, what the debate comes down to, like, was, was it real?

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

And, like, I think so much is fake. I was just talking about the other day where, like, I would be more interested in watching, like, a TikTok. If, like, you're like, yo, here's a minute short joke thing I made where, like, don't tell me it's real. You know what I mean?

[Kevin Clancy]

Like, Right. Yeah. Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Then I'll watch it. Right.

[Kevin Clancy]

There's. There's plenty of people who just do, like, you know, fictionalized skits that I'm.

[John Feidelberg]

Like, that was funny. Yeah. Like, it doesn't have.

[Kevin Clancy]

You don't need to be real.

[John Feidelberg]

This real. Like, I'm outside. Like, just make a joke about it. Don't fucking actually go do it.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

And I feel like everyone, Everything is always trying to, like, like, pretend it's real, whereas, like, just make the joke.

[Kevin Clancy]

Right.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, Like, I. I haven't seen these videos, but I can't imagine there was someone actually being like, yeah. And, like, squirting baby oil. Like, I. I mean, there was.

[Kevin Clancy]

Literally.

[John Feidelberg]

That's what I mean. Like, but I think they were probably doing. It's like.

[Kevin Clancy]

I mean. Well, there's also, like, there's a difference of, like, there was a guy who was outside the courthouse like, every week saying, like, frico is not a rico. Like, whether that guy was doing it for views or, like, a big supporter of Diddy. At some point, I'm like, I don't care what your reasoning is.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah. You're.

[Kevin Clancy]

You're representing this in a way that's.

[John Feidelberg]

Right. It's negative. No matter either way. Right.

[Kevin Clancy]

But it's different than being real.

[John Feidelberg]

But it can be. You can be funny. Like, that's a funny idea.

[Kevin Clancy]

Right.

[John Feidelberg]

Just do it. Don't, like, go to pretend.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yes.

[John Feidelberg]

To be Diddy's biggest fan or something.

[Kevin Clancy]

Telling you the Internet, man, is making the Internet's tough. I. I love the Internet. It's made me a career. I. I love being on it. I think we were at. I think it's so cool that we lived through, like, the literal birth of it.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like, the Internet will be here for thousands, millions of years. And, like, we started it, like, literally started.

[John Feidelberg]

It's kind of cool to, like, live.

[Kevin Clancy]

Through that revolution, but, like, it's even like watching Love island is like, Jesus Christ, guys. Like, the think pieces and the analyzation and the analysis and the reading into it. And it's like that with sports. And it's like that which TV shows everything. It's like, ah, it's exhausting. And then it makes me want to be like, I'm not going to engage in any of this. But then you, like, checked out of the whole thing.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Then it's like, well, I. I gotta. Gotta make my bones. I gotta do my. You know. But it's. Everything becomes sensationalized. And if you're not sensational, you're just kind of like white noise.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

We need to stop rewarding the hot Tik Tock guys and like, start rewarding.

[John Feidelberg]

More like real regular content, you know, I. I was thinking about that. Well, I read an article about like, just kids and phones kind of deal, and I was just thinking about like, you know, it was just offering ideas of what the future could hold on people who were raised by phones. And I was like, I was like, yeah, the next generation is probably gonna be pretty different. And then I was like, but no one had a bigger shock to their system than us. So, like, no matter what the Internet is, like, what they're dealing with, the shock to the system, to what reality was, to what reality is, like, no one went through a bigger change than us.

[Kevin Clancy]

No.

[John Feidelberg]

So. And we're fine.

[Kevin Clancy]

We're more or less fine.

[John Feidelberg]

You know, like, we could be better, we could be worse.

[Kevin Clancy]

Right.

[John Feidelberg]

So everyone's gonna be fine.

[Kevin Clancy]

Right.

[John Feidelberg]

Like, not only were we like the first on the Internet, we were the first to watch hardcore pornography.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Regularly, whenever we wanted. If that doesn't a person.

[Kevin Clancy]

Well, the thing is, it probably did.

[John Feidelberg]

But that's what we did. But we're fine. We're okay. Kill us, like. Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

What doesn't kill you makes you.

[John Feidelberg]

We're a little different, but we're all right. You know, like, and. And I can't imagine there's a change of going from like. Like, I grew up with my. My friends, older brothers were like, I jerked off to Victoria's Secret.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Like, dude, I saw the worst stuff in the world.

[Kevin Clancy]

I saw cameras inside of people, bro.

[John Feidelberg]

At that age. Fine. So the only thing I will say.

[Kevin Clancy]

That, that it might be one more generation of what you're talking about is like, my, my kids have, like, grown up with it in their life from the get go.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

And that might almost be worse. Like, we went through a shock, but at least we had Some semblance of like, the old world where it's like, if you don't have that to like, tether you to some sense of reality. Maybe that.

[John Feidelberg]

But, you know, worse.

[Kevin Clancy]

But I don't know, watching us going from like, wholesome to this is the world resets. Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

So often.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Like, and like, we don't realize it because, like, we think, like, like I was telling you before the show, like, I've been watching Mad Men. Unbelievable show. Incredible show. I can't believe I waited this long to watch it. But like, everything. Not just, not just like how people act. And so, like, everything is so different. The airlines are different, the television channels are different. Like, the world is a completely different music.

[Kevin Clancy]

Everything.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, everything is so different. So, like, in 30 years, it's going to be completely different.

[Kevin Clancy]

Right. Don't even, don't even bother trying to predict it or figure it out.

[John Feidelberg]

It's going to be incomplete. Completely different world.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah. I, I especially think, like, I'm not one of the AI people are going to take over the world thing, but I'm like, I, I think you don't even realize what is going to bring.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

I mean, it's like when, when, like when 3G came out, that led to Uber and Google Maps and all that. And I don't think people even said, like, we need to make an update where we can, like, send cars wherever we want. But it was an unintended consequence. I was like, oh, wait a minute, we could just like, send a car here.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

And, oh, we can just have these people deliver whatever now. Like, and that became so it's like.

[John Feidelberg]

And like Uber, like, we're sitting here. We think Uber will be here for, we're probably gone 10 years, 15 years, something else. Like, like, I, I, I was watching a flight, an episode where they were on a flight, and like, in my head, Delta's been what you flew forever and it will be what you fly forever. They were on like TWA or something like that.

[Kevin Clancy]

Don't even exist anymore.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah. The airlines, the whole place. Yeah. Like, all the companies where we have, like, oh, there are four companies. Companies, like, for airlines.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Streaming channels and, and apps and all that stuff. Like, they'll, in 20 years, they'll be, they'll be gone.

[Kevin Clancy]

I mean, if you were to tell someone however many years ago, like, NBC will, like, it'll be around. But yeah, you'd be like, what runs the world?

[John Feidelberg]

So, like, who, why are you gonna stress about it? It's gonna be a different. You have no idea.

[Kevin Clancy]

I Know, it also just gives me, like, it's hard to, you know, like, I definitely will look at other people. Be like, you had your time and it's over now. Now it's like, oh, is my time gonna be over?

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

If we can't keep up with everything, we're just done at some point, too. Like, you gotta.

[Jackie]

What if we all, like, we're the first generation to grow up with phones. What if we all die at, like, 60 from, like, cancer might happen. Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

It'll get me off my phone.

[Kevin Clancy]

I think I'm excited to try to. I'm go watch some. A couple shows like Mad Men and a couple other, like, classics that I missed because I think. Think 5, 10, whatever years ago when it was still really hot and being jammed down your throats by the real Die Hard fans, the contrarian in me was like, ah, I want to do this.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Now that's kind of died down on shows like Mad Men and the Wire and a couple. I don't know about the Wire. I've tried a few times. I just don't think I like the Wire, but the Sopranos and Mad Men, it's like, rather than go watch another piece of show on streaming, go watch, like, a heralded classic.

[John Feidelberg]

Like, I mean, Mad Men is even.

[Kevin Clancy]

I was thinking about watching Mobland. Right. I started Mobland, but I should probably go watch Madman first.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

You know, and then I can watch the new one that's like, you know, kind of a cheaper version.

[John Feidelberg]

The pilot. What you like. It is the greatest introduction to a character. Like, I do remember the Draper is.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

The guy. Like. But I also really like how it's not what I thought. Like, I. I thought it was very much like, like, men dominating women and, like, women in the workplace and men smoking.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah. I mean, it's that era, but it's almost that era.

[John Feidelberg]

But, like, the men doesn't really work.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Like, they don't look like. There's Don Draper, who's a man, and there's Roger Sterling, who's a man.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

But like, the rest of them, like, I look like little. Like, they don't. They're not like the intimidating 70s man you picture. They're like they're children.

[Kevin Clancy]

Right.

[John Feidelberg]

And the women actually seem like they're.

[Kevin Clancy]

Kind of the ones in charge, which is, I think, what is the rub there? That's why it's a good show.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah. I mean, I watched some. I've been watching a lot recently, and so I'm at a point right now I'm going through a phase of, like, I'm gonna hold my Feidelberg era where I just want to watch entertaining and not think about much. And. And I watched the Waterfront on. On Netflix.

[John Feidelberg]

Was that good? It was, yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

And I thought it was a piece of Netflix show, but then I found out it's a true story.

[John Feidelberg]

Oh, really? Totally changes it where I was like.

[Kevin Clancy]

Or at least based on a true story. And that now. Now I'm like, oh, I wish this was on, like, hbo, because I think people would have taken it more seriously. It's got tense from Cole McElhinney. Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

I've had it recommended to me. I went, he's awesome.

[Kevin Clancy]

He's always awesome.

[John Feidelberg]

I went to go watch it, and for some reason, I was like, I'm doing mine 100 instead. Like, I typed in, like, Holt McElhinney, and, like, those two popped up. And so I can't fault you for that. But it's.

[Kevin Clancy]

It's. It's a little bit soapy. Everything's a little bit of soap opera now, you know, but it's about. It's basically Yellowstone, but in the Carolinas. And they are. They own, like, a marina, and they end up getting. They end up running drugs in their boats. And it's dramatic and stupid and silly. Topher Grace is in it. He's a bad guy who plays a really good, like, sociopathic villain. It's good.

[John Feidelberg]

He was. He was he the bad guy in something else recently where I was like, that Topher Grace being a villain. I forget. But he was either.

[Kevin Clancy]

He does. He does a really good, like, I'll kill you. Like, he's very like, Topher Gracie, but it's like, I'm also a psychopath, you know?

[John Feidelberg]

Dude, that was funny. You said everything's kind of so popery right now. Because I just read an article basically about how The Naked Gun 2 or whatever it is. The Naked Gun reboot. Yeah. Is the most important movie of the summer. And the argument was that Bring back dumb. It was. It was just that comedy isn't made anymore, but everything's funny.

[Kevin Clancy]

Funny. Yes.

[John Feidelberg]

And.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're saying that made me think of that where it's like every. Like, everything's kind of funny. Like, everything's got.

[Kevin Clancy]

There's humor in everything and stuff.

[John Feidelberg]

Like, everything's got jokes, but nothing's like a pure comedy. And the article is arguing that Naked Gun. The Naked Gun.

[Kevin Clancy]

I mean, everything is said and everything.

[John Feidelberg]

Done is fully joke. It's a parody. It. It serves as no reason Other than to make you laugh.

[Kevin Clancy]

Right. So Spaceballs has got green lit. Yeah, a lot of those dumb, I mean, I, I, I, I said this about Spaceballs, but Naked Gun was one of them. Like, if you look back to our childhood, it's, it's Naked Gun, it's Robin Hood, men in tights, it's Hot shots, airplane blazing. Sadly, like, that was a genre and it was a long, like it really lasted. Yeah. And it kind of trickled into like, not another teen movie. And Scary Movie. Scary Movie.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

But those were, Scary Movie was a big one.

[John Feidelberg]

Scary Team. Actually none of the team movie was two.

[Kevin Clancy]

Then it got Scary Movie became like a franchise though.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah. But then, then they became like they were doing like 300 parodies.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, those, that's where it died off.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

But if those come back or it's just like everything is a joke. Nothing is a thing is awesome Powers was a good one. Yeah. Like, they're all parodies. They're all, I mean, those, those things, everything on screen, everything they're wearing, everything they're saying, everything they're doing is a joke.

[John Feidelberg]

Yes.

[Kevin Clancy]

And that's it. And that I, I agree. Like, I don't, I, I, I think people will hate Spaceball. I think like the younger generation will be like, what the is this?

[John Feidelberg]

Well, I think, I think, I think the older generation. I, I think with sequels, what tends to happen is people like, want it to capture the magic it had the first time.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah. And you can't really do that.

[John Feidelberg]

No, you can't do that. It's a new.

[Kevin Clancy]

Do a new thing.

[John Feidelberg]

It's a new thing.

[Kevin Clancy]

But, but I think the notion of a parody, like a two hour parody movie, I think, like, I don't know if it's gonna hit me wrong. Maybe I'm wrong. I just, I guess I was never.

[John Feidelberg]

Particularly a big parent.

[Kevin Clancy]

Neither was I. But, but when I, when I think of like the hits, I know those and I watch those and I like, I like Spaceball 300. Yeah. You know, so like it. You got to do it. Right. But I could see the younger generation, even Scary Movie.

[John Feidelberg]

I think I only saw the first.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah. I mean, if you're, if you're watching like in the theaters, Scary Movie five, you're a psychopath. That's nuts. Spaceballs is again, Spaceball is like a Star wars parody.

[Jackie]

Got it.

[Kevin Clancy]

So everything is like, you know, it's, it's very stupid. It's all dumb.

[John Feidelberg]

But I think Tim is clever.

[Kevin Clancy]

You know what I mean?

[John Feidelberg]

Help bring back where, like it's just stupid.

[Kevin Clancy]

I have a little Tim Robinson that I, I don't want to give and I don't like that. I like that. Think this way. But I, I, I, I didn't get a chance to finish friendship. I got interrupted by my kids when I was watching it. But I think what I like about Tim Robinson in a skit is a little bit much for like a full feature.

[John Feidelberg]

I think that is not an uncommon.

[Kevin Clancy]

Okay.

[John Feidelberg]

Like I, I think like when he.

[Kevin Clancy]

Was, when they were boxing and he's like. And he put the soap in his mouth. Like that was funny, like in a vacuum.

[John Feidelberg]

But I was like, but this just keeps going. You know what I mean?

[Kevin Clancy]

Like it's a lot for a whole ass movie instead of like a two or three minute skit.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah. So.

[Kevin Clancy]

But I like him. I want to like him. You know what I mean?

[John Feidelberg]

I get that for sure. I liked it. But I definitely understand that that take on it. Okay, now for my good segue. Remember when we were talking about like Epstein and.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

All right. Speaking of pedophiles, dude, this is, this is the complete opposite of pedophilia. I was reading magazine and I saw this ad. It's the craziest ad you'll ever see in your life.

[Kevin Clancy]

Who adopted? Wait, Whoa. Yeah. Who adopted? Who is the tagline? And there is. And it says adopt a teen. You can't imagine the reward. And then it's a mom and a dad and a teen. But yeah, it's like who did adopt?

[John Feidelberg]

It is. I stared at that picture for 20 minutes. I would say the guy in the middle is the kid is the team.

[Kevin Clancy]

But he's, he's balding and dressed like an old man.

[John Feidelberg]

He's got a worse hairline. Imagine if you just came home from work and there was some 17 year old stranger looking at your wife like that. They would be like, what the. Yeah, looking. What the fuck is this? Get him out of my house.

[Kevin Clancy]

I this. Bro, I'll tell you what, right now this is a front for pedophilia. This is like high, like buy a teen and you can like fuck him and cuck him. This is crazy to just bring. You have to be a insanely benevolent and generous and really like good person to think it's okay to just bring a teenager into your home and be like, this is fine. Like the rest of this is fucking weird.

[John Feidelberg]

I'm sure there are many teenagers who desperately need help and deserve help and all that stuff. It ain't coming from me. Doesn't look like like you Get a different one. That's an adult man who's going to fuck that wife.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah. At the very least, like, jerk off to her. Like, at the very least.

[John Feidelberg]

There's gonna be confusing feelings here for adopt a teen. Like, don't use a kid who looks 30 at least.

[Jackie]

Are we sure it's not the. That's the wife. None of these.

[Kevin Clancy]

What if it's. What if it's. What if it's two gay guys who adopted this. This girl team?

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah. I honestly never even considered the wife might be the. Is she the wife?

[Jackie]

She's like.

[John Feidelberg]

I don't know.

[Kevin Clancy]

None of them look like teens.

[John Feidelberg]

No. God, no. The wife's not the teen, but neither is the. The kid in the middle. If that has a worse hairline than anyone in this fucking room.

[Kevin Clancy]

That. If that. If I had that hairline as a teen, I would chop my own head off. I'd be like, I don't have a hairline at all anymore because my head is gone. I chopped it off.

[Jackie]

It's also like, even, like, this thing is balding.

[Kevin Clancy]

That's like the worst head to turkey. Dude.

[John Feidelberg]

Dude, imagine that. Like, your wife handed you this art. Babe, I was reading this magazine. Seems like a pretty good idea. You'd be like, what'd you say, little slut? Are you kidding me? I bring a young buck into the.

[Kevin Clancy]

Into the household.

[Jackie]

Okay, wait, this reminds me of this billboard that my sister and I saw in la. And it was. Okay, we don't remember exactly what it said, but it was like, some woman, and she was, like, conventionally hot. She had dark hair and she had, like, a red shirt on. She was, like, kind of doing like a. Almost like a dominatrix type thing. Like, she looks kind of like that, right? And it was like a black and red, like, sign. There was, like, text. It was like this. It was like a sexy, like, very. There was like, smoke in the background. But it said something along the lines of, like, you. You comply. Like, we'll check. Like, we'll do a check. And then it said, sturdy balconies dot com. So then we were like, that's a really, like, sexual sign for, like, a balcony. Whatever. So then we're like, maybe sturdy balconies. And the text was definitely like, you comply. We're gonna, like, like, you just sit.

[Kevin Clancy]

Making my little sit in the cup chair.

[Jackie]

Maybe it's like some kind of like, like, dominatrix thing or.

[John Feidelberg]

Or we're like, instinctively through that fin in there.

[Jackie]

Maybe like sturdy balconies, since we're like, I Don't like stiff tits or something? Like, we didn't. We couldn't figure out what it was.

[Kevin Clancy]

I love that girl's balconies.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Like, we were like, maybe it's like boobs or whatever. But then maybe, or maybe it is just really like balconies. We tried looking it up. We couldn't find anything.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

So I guess it's a psa. Everybody's seen the Sturdy Balconies dot com.

[John Feidelberg]

Well, isn't it? Well, I guess I don't understand that you comply, but like, exactly. Sturdy balconies. I guess if you're saying it's sexual.

[Kevin Clancy]

I don't think people are on a balcony.

[John Feidelberg]

That. That is where my head goes. When you made it sexual. But I also think, like, I think you're a pervert. You can just be complying with like business, with building like requirements.

[Jackie]

That's a, that's what it's saying. Like, maybe, maybe it is just. Why is it so sexual?

[Kevin Clancy]

Hey, you're talking about. If I ever need to. I got, I got a little balcony in my house that needs some fixing. I might go to sturdybalconies.com.

[Jackie]

It'S not even good. Maybe it's sturdy balcony dot com. We've checked it, dude. It's driving us crazy.

[Kevin Clancy]

I just, I always get a kick out of like, like somebody out there was like, we got to get into the balconies business. Go get me the domains. 30Balconies.com. Like, this is gonna be our business.

[Jackie]

Is that even something that needs to be checked?

[Kevin Clancy]

I don't know. But those people are the ones who are killing it, man.

[John Feidelberg]

My buddy fell off a balcony. Oh, he. He was redoing a house and he like just end of the day, went to go take a rest and like, just leaned on it.

[Kevin Clancy]

See ya.

[Jackie]

My parents.

[John Feidelberg]

Hey, wasn't sturdy guy.

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[Jackie]

That's kind of crazy. Well, we made them, my sister and I. This, this. We're like. We made them watch it with us. They got into it, like, one episode.

[Kevin Clancy]

Watching the, like, challenges. And like, they're like, that's another thing about Love Island. I'm sure it was tough to watch.

[Jackie]

It with them during the.

[Kevin Clancy]

These people. I'm, you know, again, post 27, kind of out on kissing.

[John Feidelberg]

I'll do it.

[Kevin Clancy]

But, like, whatever.

[John Feidelberg]

I was out kissing long, right?

[Kevin Clancy]

I mean, it's one of the weirder things that we do in society.

[John Feidelberg]

If I don't suck it in, close off in three seconds, I'm not doing it. Not interested.

[Kevin Clancy]

I. I can get into it in the heat of the moment, but, like.

[John Feidelberg]

I literally, like a three to five second where I'm like, is this going anywhere else? Because.

[Kevin Clancy]

And then when you do it. Yeah, but it's funny. Then it's like, if it keeps going. But, you know, regular people, I feel like kind of open your mouth, you slip a tongue in, maybe a nibble on a lip or something. Suck on a tongue real quick. These people at Love island, man, like, this, they unhinged their jaw.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like, look up.

[John Feidelberg]

I'm like, what?

[Kevin Clancy]

So I was talking to people on the cast from Seasons, like, dude, producers, like, tell you to do that? Are they like, yo, let's go. And he's like, no, they don't give us any direction. But he was like, but you get in there and, you know you're on TV and you just fucking, like, let it rip. I was like, I mean, it is like. Like, they have to, like, clean up afterwards. Like, not in my craziest kinky as drunkest. Do I do that?

[John Feidelberg]

You know?

[Kevin Clancy]

Crazy. Crazy.

[Jackie]

Yeah. It was funny because, like, during I'm watching the strip, like, whatever, the heartbeat one, and like, they're doing. They're doing a lot of, like, teasing, but they all like, open them. They're like baby birding. Yeah, yeah, but we talked about this on Fishbowl. Like, apparently guys like tongue a lot more than girls. Like, like, something about saliva and.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, I mean, I'll be. I'll probably much more. I think guys are probably much more into the spit than girls are.

[Jackie]

But, like, do you guys not, like, like kisses without the tongue?

[John Feidelberg]

I just don't really like kisses. I don't dislike kisses.

[Kevin Clancy]

I'd rather it.

[John Feidelberg]

Once you're into it, you're like, what are we doing here? Like, it's pretty. I think.

[Kevin Clancy]

I mean, if you just, like, make out and that's it.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Then, like, that's kind of crazy.

[John Feidelberg]

Oh. I go the rest of my life never kissing again.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, probably. Yeah, no problem. It's really just a means to an end. It's like, ah, she's gonna want to kiss me before we.

[John Feidelberg]

I like a pet. I like a pack. I would.

[Kevin Clancy]

I would rather like a. Just like, not even like a peck. Just like a. Like a smooch.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah. Yeah. Before.

[Kevin Clancy]

I'm like, you want to kiss? Yeah.

[Jackie]

But, like, before sex, you know?

[John Feidelberg]

No, no, I w. I got. I'm perfectly content to do it. It's just like, if someone was like, you can never kiss again, I'd be like, all right.

[Kevin Clancy]

But I think there's also a difference. Like, when you're young and single and. Well, I don't know, it might just be a different thing too. Like, I remember being out pre. Pre apps and all that sort of going out and, like, trying to get a girl's number or like, she makes out with you. The bar before you leave was, like, a win, you know?

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, that. That part was cool. But if you're, like, dating someone or. I don't know.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like, the first kiss can get, like.

[John Feidelberg]

That moment where you're like, we can.

[Kevin Clancy]

Fucking kiss right now. But it's not the physical. It's not what's going on. It's what it symbolizes.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

If we could. If I could get that same feeling without, like, kissing right now.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that part.

[Kevin Clancy]

The lean in the 90 10, the hitch stuff.

[John Feidelberg]

That's all.

[Kevin Clancy]

That's all, like, cute, fun, you know, exciting, but after.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

That goes away going in, like, because it is also.

[John Feidelberg]

It's just.

[Kevin Clancy]

It's. We just all accept it, but it's just like, you know, I could see a world of aliens come down, and they're like, what?

[Jackie]

No.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Is this about. Yeah. Do you know the germs that you're sharing. No wonder you had a pandemic like all that. I. It's very strange how much that is just a default like, put your tongue in my mouth. But you. So you said guys like more tongue. Yeah, guys are just gonna be like kinky or weird.

[John Feidelberg]

I think it's just like, it's just something, you know what I mean? Like if we're just kissing, open mouth.

[Jackie]

You just like want to be entertained.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah. We're doing something at least.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

There's another, there's another feature here.

[Kevin Clancy]

Got a great new fidget toy, by the way.

[Jackie]

What?

[Kevin Clancy]

It's these little. They look like poker chips.

[Jackie]

Oh.

[Kevin Clancy]

They're like leather bound poker chips that are magnetic and you just like flip them like so the magnets are opposing each other so they bounce or they stick together and you kind of. Oh, it's great. It's really good. It's really good. I meant to bring it in. I'll bring it in. Really good.

[Jackie]

Okay.

[John Feidelberg]

I got one more quick thing I mentioned earlier. Lake Placid and, and Owens and whatnot and how I had said to multiple people at certain points like, dude, you're a regular man. Like, just look like.

[Kevin Clancy]

I love the thought that old man Feudalberg was with all like the young guys.

[John Feidelberg]

Take your shirts off. I took him out to a cabin in the woods. I told him, why does everyone talk about pedophiles? I don't care. It was. But then later that night there was a, A. We're. We're whatever. We're near Owens, his family's shed.

[Jackie]

It is funny that you're pissed that the teen was too old looking. The teen was too old.

[John Feidelberg]

But we're by like Owen's family shed workshed and we were setting up lights in there and different kind of things so we had to be in there.

[Kevin Clancy]

Were you filming this or was like a getaway with the guys or you went there?

[John Feidelberg]

Oh, no, no. We shot an episode.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

And the. At one point we're in the shed and I don't, I don't know who spotted it, but someone saw this bucket and they go, dude, you got a bucket of black in here. And then we all looked at it and we were like, oh, what is that? Soy sauce? And someone else was like, what do you got? You got a bucket of chocolate in here. And I was like, oh no, I think that's venom. It was a bucket of oil. It was just.

[Kevin Clancy]

I was gonna say this is.

[John Feidelberg]

Who have never seen oil before. I knew where that was going. We like, we were like, what is this? It's just a bucket. Oil in a workshop. Like, like the one place you find a bucket of oil. I can see these guys picking up like a, a tool, like a hammer. What is this freaky ass family get into? Those are hedge clippers. It was. Dude, we erupted, bro. This is a group of 12 men who couldn't spot a bucket.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, I'm not a man.

[John Feidelberg]

I'm not a man.

[Jackie]

What do you do with the bucket?

[John Feidelberg]

I don't know. Put anything. You got an oil machine, don't you dip your dumplings in it? I have no idea.

[Kevin Clancy]

I, you know that that's one thing that, like, may be gone. Like, I can't imagine. I certainly see with my kids, like, from my dad to me, and then me to my son, like, I don't think there's gonna be many manly men left. That's why I think those, like, build balconies. You know, if you're a plumber, an electrician, sanitation, all that. Like, there's so few people that are doing that themselves. You will have a empire if you do that stuff. But you gotta do it. And because there's a lot of guys out there, I mean, I'm not, you're not gonna know anything else.

[Pablo]

Yeah, I have a pretty good list from, like, the last week. Al Pacino is expecting a fourth kid.

[Kevin Clancy]

Al Pacino and Robert Derniero are in an arms race and they need to. Both.

[Pablo]

Exactly.

[Kevin Clancy]

They need a ceasefire. They both need to get a vasectomy and just agree to die.

[John Feidelberg]

It's, it's on the eldest. The eldest son has to kill those people.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like, has to stop them.

[John Feidelberg]

Sneak in and give him snip his deference while he's sleeping. Yeah, he hasn't felt anything below his waist in 20 years anyway.

[Kevin Clancy]

I would say that, but apparently, I don't know, like, he's 83, still out.

[John Feidelberg]

Here, but that, I think that's pretty pharmaceutical.

[Kevin Clancy]

You think so?

[Pablo]

But that, like, but what's the point of doing that pharmaceutically?

[John Feidelberg]

To keep up with that's what, that's why his eldest, it's on him to protect the rest of the family.

[Kevin Clancy]

Or at the very least, here's the oldest. I, I, it might get messy trying to sniff your dad's best efforts. Let's be honest. That's hard.

[John Feidelberg]

It's probably pretty difficult.

[Kevin Clancy]

You kill one of those babies Robert Gino's not having, like, honey, listen, I would, but, like, Rob Jr. Keeps killing the babies.

[John Feidelberg]

We can't do it.

[Kevin Clancy]

We're just bringing a Lamb to slaughter.

[John Feidelberg]

You just have the. The valley out in the backyard looks like the Spartan 300. Literally a graveyard out there because he.

[Kevin Clancy]

Keeps killing the new heirs. Every time a new kid comes in the world, it's like, 15 gone. They are. They are animals. They are animals.

[John Feidelberg]

It is like, I. I think I remember the first time De Niro had a kid, and I looked it up, and it was like, I think he had three other kids. I was like, if I was one of three that was looking at whatever Robert De Niro's net worth is, probably $600 million, something like that. Like, in a week's time, I'm looking at 200 million. And you just cut it in half.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Oh, like. Like, I'd be like, dude, stop hat. Like, what do you. You're gonna change diapers for three months and then die.

[Kevin Clancy]

I know.

[John Feidelberg]

Leave it alone.

[Kevin Clancy]

Right, right, right. And, like, I'm sure Janiro's probably gonna leave a lot of money, that kid, being like, well, he's the youngest. We need to, like, you know.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Money into him. We gotta. Yeah. No, that's. Him and Pacino are just reckless. Reckless with their dicks. What else you got?

[Pablo]

Rob McElhenny changes name.

[Kevin Clancy]

Oh, I'm happy you brought this up.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Pablo]

To Rob Mack legally.

[Kevin Clancy]

I. Well, that. That he kind of makes sense in that he's like, I've been spelling my name and pronouncing my name for everyone my whole life.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

I get that. Ryan Reynolds has, like, kidnapped and transformed Rob McElhinney. Yes. Like, that video he did was Ryan Reynolds.

[John Feidelberg]

I. I didn't see it.

[Kevin Clancy]

It was.

[John Feidelberg]

So don't clip any of this.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, like, that was. It's disheartening, man. He, like. Like.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

I mean, I don't want to talk bad about our guy either, but, like, he's clearly getting, like, work done and looks weird and talks like him now, and it's like, I think that he is being, like, groomed by it there.

[John Feidelberg]

It's. The two of them have certainly morphed, like, into one. Yeah. And they're making the same stuff, and.

[Kevin Clancy]

Right.

[John Feidelberg]

It's a little.

[Kevin Clancy]

And, you know, here's the thing, you know that Charlie Day and Glenn Howerton sit around going, like, weird, and I hope that it's at the point where they bust his balls openly, because if it's not, then it's a real problem.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

But I hope those guys are like. Like, oh, like, you're not with Ryan today. Like, you're with your real Friends. Like, it's, it's, it's. It's like some mean girls gossipy, where it's like, who's this new guy? But they're very justified if they're busting his balls over that. That's weird.

[John Feidelberg]

It's.

[Kevin Clancy]

And it also gives me hope that, like, I'm sure there's been times where, like, Rob and Charlie were, like, you know, Glenn used to be on the outs. Like, he left the show for a little bit. And I'm sure they've all had their times where they pair up and the third guy is out, you know, oh, Charlie's doing Horrible Bosses and all that. Like, Rob and Glenn are together. And now it feels like Charlie and Glenn are together, probably being like, like, it's weird. Yeah, go hang out with Blake Lively, you loser.

[John Feidelberg]

I. I remember I just saw the headline, and I was like, I wish he didn't do that. And again, like, I like, you know, live your own life. I don't give a really, but, like.

[Kevin Clancy]

I don't think he is. I think he's living Ryan Reynolds life.

[John Feidelberg]

But, yeah, if he's always wanted to be.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

I don't give. Who gives a what I think.

[Kevin Clancy]

Right.

[John Feidelberg]

But felt. Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Gimmicky, gossipy. It feels like the Wrexham thing just, like, became, I mean, the wrecks of things. Unbelievable.

[John Feidelberg]

But.

[Kevin Clancy]

But it's becoming a little weird and, like, I don't know, just like, I like, I like my guys, and I don't want.

[John Feidelberg]

Which is like. Like, we are definitively being, like, indie band fans.

[Kevin Clancy]

Totally.

[John Feidelberg]

It was like, that was our guy, and, like, now he's more popular than I'm. Like.

[Kevin Clancy]

But, like, when Charlie did, like, pop and was doing movies and, like, I was. It was. It was done in a way where I was, like, happy for him. Not like a. It's just lame what he's doing.

[John Feidelberg]

You know, there. There's. There's elements to it where it's just like. But again, like, that, I, I. What I gather is that Rob McElhenny wants to be incredibly famous nationwide.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

He doesn't want to be famous, which is, like, perfect. Great for you. He doesn't want to be famous in, like, Pockets in New York and Pockets in Philly and Pockets in la. Like, I think Always Sunny's a very popular show, but it's not.

[Kevin Clancy]

But it's still, like, yeah, it's been.

[John Feidelberg]

20 years, and I think Charlie can walk down the street just fine.

[Kevin Clancy]

Totally.

[John Feidelberg]

The people who love it, love it. But.

[Kevin Clancy]

But he's. He's not like a mega star.

[John Feidelberg]

He's not a mega star. I'm guessing that he's trying. He's going that way or.

[Kevin Clancy]

And I'm even just like, I think if you do, like, all right, you do the Wrexham thing, right? And Ryan. And it's such a success. Right. They're probably making jillions off of that. And I think Ryan Reynolds is probably like, all right, here's what we're doing next. And here, like, you want to keep going, and you're like, yeah, but it kind of comes at the cost of, like, being you. You know, I. I also think, man, whatever you feel like, you know, we. With the Baldoni thing and all that, like, Ryan Reynolds has been very polarizing. But regardless, like, I. I became anti him. I think there's some people who haven't. But if you kind of throw that out there, forget about that for a second. A few years ago, if you would have told me that, like, the Sunny Gang or Rob was going to team up with Ryan Reynolds, I would have been like, this is like a dream.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

You know, like, this is the ultimate, like, my. My guys coming together. And now it's like, yeah, that's something. If you told me that five years ago, it's 10 years ago, whatever, I would be like, no, that's awesome. Yeah. And the fact, you know you're gonna hate it, like, what? That's crazy.

[John Feidelberg]

Just. It just doesn't hit the ears of the eyes. Right.

[Jackie]

I feel like it's almost like how we were just talking about, like, with tj, how you need, like, a slightly ugly guy. It's almost like when the personality is so pristine, like Ryan Reynolds, it does.

[Kevin Clancy]

Give you a little pause.

[Jackie]

He also kind of just killed the funny celebrity. Like now whenever a celebrity makes a joke, it just.

[John Feidelberg]

He made it very, like, marketing, and he's.

[Kevin Clancy]

He's a great marketer. Mobile and Wrexham and all these things are like, he takes nothing and turns it into something. But that also means, like, you're doing that all the time, right? And. And it's just a exposure thing. In the beginning is, like, quirky Van Wilder talk was cool. And then, like, 10 Deadpool movies later, and everything you do, it's like, oh, this is just. You're one trick pony.

[John Feidelberg]

And. But then, guess what? In five years, Ryan Reynolds is going to do some movie where we're like.

[Kevin Clancy]

We're like, holy Flex is acting.

[John Feidelberg]

I didn't realize Ryan Reynolds could act like that. And we'll be massive Ryan Reynolds fan. Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

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[Pablo]

I have have one hypothetical I saw this morning. Who would win? It's Joey Chestnut versus Usain Bolt. 100 meters, but both have to be a hot.

[John Feidelberg]

I think this. I've seen this around as well. I'm pretty sure this started on the show. I think we invented this.

[Kevin Clancy]

Are you serious? There are. There are so many of these that go viral and I'm like, we started this whole thing.

[John Feidelberg]

I don't know if we were the first to do it. We definitely did this like 10 years ago.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, we. We for sure, at the very least popularized these things. Like, like somebody came out with a. Called our show and We.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah. I. I think the. The overwhelming consensus, though, is that Chestnut, Right? Yes. Because, like, really?

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

It'll take a normal human more than it takes. It takes Usain Ball 10 seconds to run 100 meters. It'll take you longer to eat than 10 seconds to eat, like, a whole hot dog.

[Pablo]

I don't think so. I could eat a hot dog, honestly.

[Kevin Clancy]

Well, guess what we're doing.

[Pablo]

Honestly, in 20 seconds, I could eat.

[Kevin Clancy]

A whole hot dog.

[Pablo]

I'm not even.

[Kevin Clancy]

Okay, but 20. Like, you're. You're done.

[Pablo]

But how much faster is you sing both than like.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like, Joey Chestnut probably runs?

[John Feidelberg]

Well, you just said in 20 seconds you can eat a hot dog.

[Pablo]

A hundred percent.

[John Feidelberg]

Okay. Joey just not sees him in, like, a half a second.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, Joey. Joey Chestnut will eat. Like, he was eating. He was eating ten dogs a minute.

[John Feidelberg]

And then. But that's also, like, he's. Yeah, he's doing 10 minutes.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like, Joey Jessup will just, like, throw a dog down his mouth and then run 100 meters. Let's say that takes him 15 seconds to usain bolts 9.5 or whatever. So you got to be able to, like. Yeah, you got to be able to. So Usain bolt already has 10 seconds.

[John Feidelberg]

So if it's basically Usain Bolt's gonna run his 100 meters 2 seconds faster than Joey Chestnut.

[Kevin Clancy]

Right.

[Pablo]

Only 2 seconds.

[John Feidelberg]

3 seconds.

[Kevin Clancy]

Joey Chest is gonna go.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Pablo]

But I feel like Usain Bolt can eat a hot dog pretty fast.

[Kevin Clancy]

I remember. Have you ever. Have you ever tried competitively eat hot dogs? No, because one time we did it, and it was the worst video we ever made because it is so much harder than you think. I remember being, like, three, two, one, and, like, shoved it down my throat, and I was like. I had to just eventually just, like, ate the hot dog.

[John Feidelberg]

I think, like, four or five of us did that video. I don't think we added all of us together. I don't think we would be. I think.

[Kevin Clancy]

I think I did, like, five hot dogs in, like, 10 minutes all together.

[John Feidelberg]

I don't think we beat a single person at the Nathan's costume contest. Like, it's really. Really.

[Pablo]

Yeah, I don't think I would do that. But I'm saying, like, I think Usain can eat a hot dog faster than me, and I think I could eat.

[John Feidelberg]

One pretty fast, but I don't think. I think it's. I think it's harder. I think it's hard to try it.

[Kevin Clancy]

I don't know if you. I mean, if you think about, like, a Bite and some chewing and some bite and some chewing. Like, even if you do like, three, four bites and you're chewing it and swallowing it, that's gonna be.

[John Feidelberg]

It's I 20 seconds. I consider myself a pretty elite eater. I've been in two hot dog eating competitions. I've probably in like eight hot dogs.

[Pablo]

But the quantity is hard. I feel like one hot dog.

[John Feidelberg]

It takes a long time.

[Kevin Clancy]

It's the.

[Pablo]

How fast could you eat one hot dog?

[John Feidelberg]

Two minutes. I. I forget.

[Pablo]

I mean, two minutes.

[John Feidelberg]

I forget. We have video of me doing it. We can figure it out. But I mean, like, we did it.

[Kevin Clancy]

For 10 minutes, and I think I got to like seven. So it's like a minute one down.

[Jackie]

You can easily just.

[Pablo]

That's what I'm saying. I think like, five.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[Pablo]

You get, like, tired by, like, the fifth one. One hot dog.

[John Feidelberg]

I invite you both to try.

[Pablo]

I'm so happy to.

[John Feidelberg]

Honestly not going to go the way you think. Like, I. I think eating three hot dogs will take someone two minutes at least. And.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah. Wait, and. And the hypothetical is just one. And run.

[Pablo]

It's just one.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[Pablo]

Dude, one hot dog would go down so easy.

[John Feidelberg]

I actually. So I believe when we did it, it was three hot dogs.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, but that's a different story, dude. I don't know.

[John Feidelberg]

Like.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like, Joey Chestnut's still like, a fast enough. Like, if it was, I think even one. If it was like a huge, fat competitive eater, and it's like, this guy's gonna run this in 40 seconds.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

But, like, the difference when you run 100 meters, 60 meters, 40 meters, like, a second is like a lifetime. You know what I mean? So, like, he might finish in 15 seconds, but his dog is gonna go down in five, so Usain Bolt's got to do it. You know, if. If he eats a hot dog, if it takes him more than 10 seconds, he's probably cooking.

[Jackie]

It might be like, we're more confident in it because, like, when. When you need to, you just realize, like, you can just open the throat.

[Pablo]

I was literally.

[John Feidelberg]

We just swallow our dogs all the time.

[Pablo]

I almost said that, like, five minutes ago, and I was like, I don't want to be a slut.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, I don't want to.

[Jackie]

Like, I'm not. You know, like, obviously, like, we were all thinking it, but, like, it is true. Like, when, like, adrenaline kicks in, like, you. You can open your throat and you can get stuff down at better for.

[Pablo]

Way longer than, like, one hot dog.

[Kevin Clancy]

So. So.

[John Feidelberg]

So are you telling me your.

[Kevin Clancy]

Your approach Would just be whole dog down the throat.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Swallow it whole.

[Pablo]

Yeah, it's.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Pablo]

Two bites.

[Kevin Clancy]

I mean, listen. Yeah, if somebody can do that, then, like, you know, I think Joey. Justin would probably do that. I think you guys need to be chewing more than you realize. I don't think you're going to swallow a whole hot dog.

[Pablo]

Is there a bun?

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Pablo]

Okay. That's what I thought.

[Kevin Clancy]

They usually do separate. They usually eat that. They take. They usually take two dogs and go like. Like that. That. And then they take buns and they dip them in water and they just.

[John Feidelberg]

Eat soggy, which I think you should not be allowed.

[Jackie]

Yeah, I don't think I agree with that.

[Kevin Clancy]

But they. But they agree.

[John Feidelberg]

Bread and of sausage.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, I agree that. Yeah, I. I think that, too. I also think you have to put some condiments on. I mean, we're gonna have to do this now.

[Jackie]

Two bites.

[Pablo]

I honestly think, because it would, like.

[Kevin Clancy]

You don't even have to run the meter. It's just about how fast it'll get. Oh, I'm not.

[Pablo]

I'm not doing that part. It'll get, like, stuck in your chest, but, like, it'll be down.

[Kevin Clancy]

I mean, I've seen that there was a video of a girl recently who just like. Like, put the dog in, took the whole dog out. But, like, yeah, I don't know. You could do that. But is it going down? Is it coming back?

[Jackie]

There would definitely be chewing, obviously.

[Kevin Clancy]

But I think once you start chewing. I think once you start chewing, your whole Deep Throat idea goes out the window. Now you're just. You have a mouthful of food.

[Jackie]

I'm not saying Deep Throat the whole hot dog. I'm saying you choo, choo, choo. You think, all right, like, I'm just gonna swallow this whole thing. I'm gonna burp. Sure. Like, it's gonna be gross. It's gonna not feel good going down. You just have to get one in.

[Kevin Clancy]

You're doing this now, too.

[Pablo]

It'll sit right here, I think, like, it won't, like.

[Kevin Clancy]

And you choke while you're running.

[Pablo]

You don't have to chew and, like, fully, like, sit there and digest. It's like you just get it past one spot and then you just go and throw up.

[Jackie]

Maybe.

[Pablo]

But you beat Joey Chestnut.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Pablo]

So I don't know.

[Kevin Clancy]

I feel like I've been on. I've done these. So many of these. I've argued both sides.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

I think you could probably find video of me being like, it's definitely Usain, but I. I'm pretty sure it's Joey.

[Pablo]

I think it's. Oh, I'm like, I think we asked Joey.

[John Feidelberg]

In fact, I think Joey Chestnut has answered this.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, but I think he said it's me.

[Jackie]

Well, did he?

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, I think so.

[Pablo]

Of course he said it's me. What do you mean?

[Jackie]

Chestnut is the most famous person to follow me. And I. And I every single month, check to.

[Kevin Clancy]

Make sure I'm gonna say something that might be the most pathetic thing I've.

[John Feidelberg]

Ever heard in my life.

[Pablo]

Oh, I heard that. And I was like, that's the coolest thing ever. I guess I'm new.

[John Feidelberg]

Honestly, it's pretty cool because I know we've said it for a long time, but the fact that he did it again, he's just the best eater. He.

[Kevin Clancy]

I think he's the best one at 17 times. I think he's the best at what he does.

[John Feidelberg]

That's inside.

[Kevin Clancy]

I don't think anybody does their thing better than he.

[John Feidelberg]

Southwalks like. Like, LeBron James won three NBA champions.

[Kevin Clancy]

He lost a bunch.

[John Feidelberg]

Joey Chestnut has one's.

[Jackie]

Only one. Three.

[John Feidelberg]

I think maybe four. Three or four.

[Pablo]

Jackie, we should have to do, like, the birthday eating hot dogs challenge had for both of our birthdays.

[Jackie]

Oh, yeah. It was just his birthday. He has to do his thing or whatever.

[Kevin Clancy]

You guys also do your.

[John Feidelberg]

Your triathlon guys?

[Jackie]

I mean, like, again, we're not the.

[Kevin Clancy]

I just want to see Pabs flounder in the water. Did you go. Did you go in the lake at all?

[John Feidelberg]

I did, yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

No. Did he go in the lake?

[John Feidelberg]

He did not.

[Kevin Clancy]

Because he can't swim. People can't swim.

[John Feidelberg]

That's right. If. I always pray. You can't swim. Swim. Should have made him go in the lake.

[Kevin Clancy]

If you're white and you can't swim, that's a problem. I understand. Culturally, I get it. Certain people, if you're white and you can't swim, you're an idiot.

[Jackie]

I would like to see, like, if we should throw him in a pool at some point.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, I just want to see, like.

[Jackie]

And see, like, what?

[Kevin Clancy]

What he flounders.

[John Feidelberg]

Just check if he's a witch.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Time down a little bit.

[Kevin Clancy]

Who do you. What do you. The hot dog thing. What do you think my thing is? Usain Bolt eats every single day. Joey Chestnut probably hasn't run like Joey Chest looks pretty.

[John Feidelberg]

Jack.

[Kevin Clancy]

He's in shape. He's got a belly on also.

[John Feidelberg]

That's a compliment.

[Jackie]

I think that you have a great body.

[Kevin Clancy]

I think we eat every day. We don't even come close to eating. Like, he eats, though. But I guess you could say the same thing. We. You could run, but you don't come close to running. Like you're saying, but it's just a time thing. If it was like a full lap, you know, 400 meters, something like that. Like, it gets very different, but, like, anybody can run 100 meters in even, like. No, it's like a football field.

[Pablo]

A football field.

[John Feidelberg]

Any tracks? 250, 400.

[Kevin Clancy]

The straightaway of a. Of a track is like, 100 meters.

[Pablo]

Oh, yeah. Usain is clearing. It's crazy, you guys.

[Kevin Clancy]

I. I think Joey Chestnut can run that in.

[Pablo]

Yeah, I don't think it would be close either.

[John Feidelberg]

How long does it take the average person to run 100 meters?

[Jackie]

This kind of goes with my blues thing. Like, you don't really know the. Until you try.

[Kevin Clancy]

Well, this is another part of the Internet where it's like, people. The irrational confidence of the Internet is what makes it great, but also makes it infuriating. Where it's like, when people are like, I could do that. It's like sports is, you know, number one thing. How'd you miss that free throw? It's like, because it was two seconds left and the crowd was screaming at me and like, all. You know what I mean? There's so many things that people just from their couch think they can do.

[Jackie]

But I'm saying, like, one of us could be. Could be the next Joey Chestnut. We just haven't, like, tried to, like, aggressively eat hot dogs. Do you know what I mean?

[Kevin Clancy]

Like, you're like, how do you feel.

[Jackie]

Like you need, like, crazy muscles to have to eat. We have all the equipment.

[Kevin Clancy]

I think Joey Chestnut might be some sort of freak.

[Pablo]

I won a watermelon one once.

[John Feidelberg]

So Joey Chestnut has to eat. I'm sorry. Usain Bolt has to eat it in three seconds. The. The average 100, an average runner is about 13 to 15 seconds, but he's.

[Pablo]

And Joey's probably a little slower than average.

[Kevin Clancy]

Joey Chestnut, I don't think. I don't think so either. He's a professional.

[John Feidelberg]

He's a pro athlete. He's a guy in good. Like, look around America and Joey Chestnut. Think about what you have to look.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like he looks with what he eats. Think about how active and good his metabolism is and all that stuff.

[John Feidelberg]

He's at that worst average, probably in better shape.

[Pablo]

How did you get the three seconds?

[Kevin Clancy]

Because of that usable. Is going to run it in, like, 10. And so he has three seconds to eat a hot Dog. And. And go. So Joey Chestnut could do one.

[John Feidelberg]

So.

[Kevin Clancy]

So, yeah, like, so he's gonna.

[John Feidelberg]

He's gonna. At least he's got to eat his hot dog three seconds faster than Joe.

[Kevin Clancy]

Right, Right.

[John Feidelberg]

He's not gonna do that.

[Kevin Clancy]

Right? Because I think Joey Justin's gonna do.

[John Feidelberg]

It in like three seconds.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, I gotta go. I mean, the thing, he, you know, he goes like, if it's nine dogs per 60 seconds, that's. Yeah, he's gonna do one like super fast. Cuz he's just like, I only had one.

[John Feidelberg]

He. He's probably just gonna swallow it. Yeah, he probably gonna deep throat that thing. Yeah. These girls over here think they can de. Throw better than Joey Chestnut.

[Kevin Clancy]

Let me tell you something.

[John Feidelberg]

Speaking of that, the way I said that thing reminded me of Hawk D. Obviously. I was watching fx.

[Jackie]

Oh.

[John Feidelberg]

I was watching Jurassic World the other day and commercial break on fx. I didn't even realize. Sonny comes back Wednesday night and they.

[Kevin Clancy]

That always creeps up on me. They don't really do like a huge rollout. They just let it happen.

[John Feidelberg]

Wednesday night, 9pm Sonny's back. Let's go. And it was just a quick scene of. It's clearly. Frank is on the Bachelor and he's standing with whatever the guy's name is. He was like Chris Hansen or like. No, he's a football guy.

[Kevin Clancy]

Football.

[John Feidelberg]

Football player.

[Kevin Clancy]

Jesse Palmer.

[John Feidelberg]

Jesse Palmer, yeah. He's standing with Jesse Palmer and some woman, some drunk gets out of the limo and she's like, I just want to grab a dick and spit on that thing. And then Frank goes, her. I choose her. They're the best.

[Kevin Clancy]

They're going to do it till they're dead. It's amazing.

[Pablo]

Who's giving a better blow job, you or Joey Chestnut?

[John Feidelberg]

Oh, that's a good hypothetical ham reflex.

[Jackie]

We've talked about this.

[Pablo]

Yeah, I do.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah. You know, I'll say this probably one last time because I'm getting too old to say these things, but like.

[John Feidelberg]

Too good of.

[Kevin Clancy]

You can have too good of a gag reflex. Of. Not.

[John Feidelberg]

Of.

[Kevin Clancy]

Of not. You know, you can have too good. You can be too good at deep.

[Pablo]

To where you rely on that.

[Kevin Clancy]

No, it's just like. It's too easy for you. There's no, like, spectacle.

[Jackie]

Yeah, that's true. That's true.

[John Feidelberg]

That's true.

[Jackie]

No, I guess that. I appreciate it.

[John Feidelberg]

That's my take.

[Kevin Clancy]

Real quick before he comes back, because I don't think he. Have you guys either watched or read the book? We are li. We were liars. No, it's like a very girly book turned into a. I read it, but.

[Pablo]

I don't, like, remember it.

[Kevin Clancy]

I was. Okay, so it's like a young adult, like, novel. It's about, like, teen. Teenage kids in, like, this rich family.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

And it's a Netflix show. And I watched it, and it started out just, like, clearly this, like, teeny bopper, like, teenage, young adult thing. And I was like, this is stupid. And then the end hits, and it is one of the most, like, catastrophic endings to a show I've ever seen. And I just. I mean, I. I guess I.

[Jackie]

Can you say it?

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah. You want me to say it? Yeah.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Okay. So the idea is there's a super rich family. So the grandparents own, like, this estate, and they're, like, old, white, and racist. And then they have a bunch of daughters who are all, like, materialistic snobs who are just competing for the will.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

And then. Then there's the. The kids of the show, and they are like, this family. You're racist. You're old. You're terrible. We just want to have fun. Like, they. One. There's cousins, but they also. There's another person that's not in the family. They fall in love. They just have this, like, teen Summer thing. Right. And they grow to hate their family because of their, like, materialistic ways and their WASPy racist. And so they come up with this. They watch their parents, like, literally fight each other and ruin their lives over getting into their will. And they're like, this place, this. This whole estate is, like, what causes all the problems for us. So we're gonna, like, put an end to this. And they decide they're gonna burn down the house, and they have this whole idea of, like, I'll take upstairs, you take downstairs. I'll do the basement. We're gonna throw alcohol all over. And at midnight, you light it. And then we're gonna run out. We'll get in the boat, and we're gonna escape, and it's gonna burn down. We're gonna fix, like, everything. And so they start their little plan. They set the house on fire. And the girl is like, like, all right, I did my part. I'm gonna run out to the boat. And she hears the family dogs start barking, and she forgets that the dogs were put away in the basement. And they just burn the dogs. The dogs just die.

[Pablo]

Were the parents still in the house?

[Kevin Clancy]

No, the parents were out.

[John Feidelberg]

What is this?

[Kevin Clancy]

This is. It's a show on Netflix that was like a. It's a girly novel. That was like a young adult novel. And then it became a Netflix show. And I watched it recently, and it was like this stupid, stupid show. And then the end is this, like, catastrophic fire where they kill the dogs. And then. And that was like, the second to last episode. And I was like, oh, I thought that was going to be, like, the big twist. And then the twist in the end is that all the kids died in the fire, too.

[Jackie]

What?

[Pablo]

I was just like, they kind of deserve it.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah. Yeah, they were. It's. I guess it's interesting in that regard, but in the end, you find out that. That this one girl talking to her cousins and the boy she's in love with the whole time is like a Sixth Sense thing. They were never actually there, and the whole show was like, they were dead the whole time. And I was like. I was just sitting there watching this, like, dumb girly show. And then by the end, I was like.

[John Feidelberg]

I was like, what the.

[Kevin Clancy]

Get this.

[John Feidelberg]

Show. What am I doing here?

[Kevin Clancy]

It's crazy. It was.

[Jackie]

That's crazy for, like, a girly show to have, like, I feel like me and a lot of other girls, I have a strictly no dogs dying watching.

[Kevin Clancy]

Most people usually do. Yeah.

[Pablo]

There's a website called does the dog Die? I always look at it. Yeah, I won't watch it.

[Kevin Clancy]

You see, the. The guy from Love is from Last of Us. Like, the video game guy, like, pulled out of the show. He's like, I'm not doing this anymore.

[John Feidelberg]

What do you mean?

[Kevin Clancy]

Like, the. The guy who made the video game for Last of Us, who, like, was kind of overseeing things with the TV show was like, I'm just done with this.

[John Feidelberg]

Really?

[Kevin Clancy]

That's one of those things where, like, I think that, like, the. The online discourse was kind of true. Like, it's like online discord.

[John Feidelberg]

I love the Last of Us.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, a lot of people bailed on that. Really? Yeah, the ratings. Ratings were way down. And, like, after Joel died and people didn't like the girl, and, like, a lot of that I thought was, like, stupid. But the. The. The video game guy left, and the showrunner was like, yeah, we kind of, like, up, really.

[John Feidelberg]

Which I was like, I don't think.

[Kevin Clancy]

You should say that, dude. You should just stick to your guns.

[John Feidelberg]

As long as that. I. I mean, I wasn't like. Like, this is unb. But like.

[Kevin Clancy]

But by the end of season two, I didn't think of it as, like. Like, there was that. That one episode in the middle or early on that was like, this is the most best episode of tv, but.

[John Feidelberg]

Like, it was like a seven episode season that had like four great episodes.

[Kevin Clancy]

I know, I, I do. I feel that way kind of about when people talking about paradise where it's like, all right, the finale was great. The this was great in the middle was great.

[John Feidelberg]

But the other one's not great. It's like that's half the show. Yeah, there's some stuff. Some episodes progress, story lines. Other episodes are just great. That's how to show up is.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, but I, I, I, I don't. It's one of those ones where I wonder if the, the feedback and the discourse is almost gonna. It's like perception becomes reality as opposed to like. No, this is a good show.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

I don't know. We'll see. See what's. The third season's gonna be weird because it's gonna pivot to the Abby.

[John Feidelberg]

Abby.

[Kevin Clancy]

So it's like, if you like this show, you might not like this, or maybe if you don't like the show, you will like that. So it could be good, could be bad, but either way, interesting stuff.

[Jackie]

Wait, was there third season of the video game or was it just.

[Kevin Clancy]

Just two? So now they broke. They broke. The second game is so long. They probably could get. They definitely are gonna have another season and could have like maybe three if they wanted.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Okay. All right, Anything else good? Anything else on this? Good.

[John Feidelberg]

Good with me.

[Kevin Clancy]

All right, see you on Thursday. We'll have the hot dogs out. All right, thanks for watching. Make sure you subscribe like and leave a comment below.

[John Feidelberg]

Click that button or I'll cut off my finger.