Morgan Wallen "Storms Off" The SNL Set - Full Episode

Summary

KFC Radio Episode Summary: "Morgan Wallen 'Storms Off' The SNL Set"

Release Date: April 1, 2025

Hosted by Kevin Clancy, John Feidelberg, and Jackie, this episode of KFC Radio delves into a range of topics blending pop culture, celebrity controversies, social media dynamics, television show reviews, and personal anecdotes. Skipping over advertisements and introductory segments, the hosts engage in lively and candid conversations, providing insightful perspectives and humorous takes on current events and personal experiences.

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1. Morgan Wallen's SNL Incident

The primary focus of the episode revolves around Morgan Wallen's recent appearance on "Saturday Night Live" (SNL), where Wallen reportedly stormed off the set. The hosts dissect the incident, questioning Wallen's motives and authenticity.

• Kevin Clancy (90:32):

  "He is like those people support him. Whether or not they, his music."

• John Feidelberg (91:00):

  "Morgan Wallen is probably, you know, it's like Trump, Elon... he maintains his relevance among his followers."

The discussion highlights the tension between Wallen's public persona and his actions, drawing parallels to political figures who use controversy to stay in the spotlight. The hosts ponder whether Wallen's behavior is a genuine expression of frustration or a calculated move to resonate with his conservative fanbase.

2. Debating Kanye West's Persona

The conversation shifts to Kanye West, where the hosts debate whether his actions and statements are genuine or mere attention-seeking tactics.

• Kevin Clancy (05:31):

  "I have a conflict in my mind with Kanye right now because it's so obvious that what he's doing is clickbait and attention seeking and fake and phony."

• John Feidelberg (05:39):

  "It's like you can be like, hey, I'm just like this. It's like, yeah."

They compare West's public behavior to WWE personas, where the line between reality and performance is intentionally blurred. The hosts express skepticism about West's true intentions, considering the possibility that his extremities are part of a larger strategy to maintain relevance and influence.

3. Impact of Social Media Influencers

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to the influence of social media on modern behavior and perceptions.

• Jackie (112:28):

  "It's like, we're just talking whether it's real or fake. Are they doing real stuff? No, it's pretend."

• Kevin Clancy (48:24):

  "There are dumb people out there who think it's real. Big money rock on."

The hosts critique the superficiality of influencer culture, discussing how curated personas often mask the true identities of individuals. They explore the dichotomy between genuine self-expression and strategic branding, emphasizing the importance of discerning authenticity in online content.

4. Television Show Reviews: White Lotus and Severance

The trio reviews acclaimed television series, offering their thoughts on narrative structures, character development, and overall execution.

• Kevin Clancy (66:33):

  "I really like 'White Lotus,' but I was being so stressed."

• John Feidelberg (70:43):

  "I did think of... rules don't change the game. Players change the game. Like Steph Curry's changed the game."

They discuss the complexity of "White Lotus," praising its intricate characters while expressing frustration over certain plot developments. Similarly, their take on "Severance" highlights its enigmatic storytelling and visual prowess, though they remain divided on its overall impact.

5. Sports Talk: Yankees’ Torpedo Bats and Kids' Over-Scheduling

Sports take center stage as the hosts analyze the New York Yankees' introduction of Torpedo bats and its implications on the game.

• Kevin Clancy (53:08):

  "No one's ever done it before."

• John Feidelberg (61:44):

  "If they don't continue, the league should say no one can use these bats."

They debate whether this innovation will enhance performance or simply serve as a gimmick to boost entertainment value. Additionally, the hosts share personal stories about their children's over-scheduled sports activities, lamenting the societal pressures that lead to excessive participation in multiple sports and extracurriculars.

6. Personal Anecdotes and Social Interactions

Towards the end, the hosts open up about personal experiences, particularly focusing on social media dynamics and the challenges of maintaining authenticity online.

• Kevin Clancy (112:18):

  "Women everywhere agree that men are bad, you sound like a retard."

• Jackie (110:04):

  "Feeling like the girl in 'White Lotus' who just wants to keep the peace."

They humorously critique the struggles of proper language usage on social media and reflect on the pressures to present oneself in a certain way. The conversation touches on the implications of curated online identities and the importance of balancing authenticity with societal expectations.

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Notable Quotes

• Kevin Clancy (05:31):

  "I have a conflict in my mind with Kanye right now because it's so obvious that what he's doing is clickbait and attention seeking and fake and phony."

• John Feidelberg (05:39):

  "It's like you can be like, hey, I'm just like this. It's like, yeah."

• Kevin Clancy (53:08):

  "No one's ever done it before."

• John Feidelberg (61:44):

  "If they don't continue, the league should say no one can use these bats."

• Jackie (112:28):

  "It's like, we're just talking whether it's real or fake. Are they doing real stuff? No, it's pretend."

Concluding Thoughts

This episode of KFC Radio offers a multifaceted exploration of contemporary cultural phenomena, blending humor with critical analysis. The hosts navigate through controversial topics with candidness, encouraging listeners to reflect on the authenticity of public personas, the evolving dynamics of media and entertainment, and the societal pressures shaping today's behaviors. Their discussions on celebrities like Morgan Wallen and Kanye West provide insightful viewpoints on the intersection of fame, controversy, and personal branding.

Final Takeaway:
KFC Radio continues to deliver engaging and thought-provoking content, making it a must-listen for audiences seeking a blend of humor, insight, and candid conversations on various facets of modern life.

Transcript

[Kevin Clancy]

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[John Feidelberg]

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[John Feidelberg]

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[Kevin Clancy]

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[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, yeah, it would be.

[Kevin Clancy]

If that was on the daily dozen. It would be 100 answer. Nobody would know.

[John Feidelberg]

It's like the Hindu sign for peace.

[Kevin Clancy]

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[John Feidelberg]

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[Kevin Clancy]

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[John Feidelberg]

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[Kevin Clancy]

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[John Feidelberg]

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[Kevin Clancy]

All right, it's another edition of KFC radio on the barstool sports network. Wait, by the way, we saved Bert for. We have like the second half, right? John thought that, that the talk about the comedy stuff was in that second hour. Was that not true? We just did I, I. Or did you put.

[Jackie]

Chop it up, Chop them together so that the, everything that we had said, like at the end, just everything that you talked about in your comedy, I put it to the front, so it's already out.

[Kevin Clancy]

Got it.

[John Feidelberg]

Okay. So that, but that was at the end.

[Jackie]

What?

[Kevin Clancy]

So we did talk about that at the end, but you put it out.

[Jackie]

You talked about at the end of the first hour and then you re talked about it again.

[John Feidelberg]

Like.

[Jackie]

Do you want, like, is that good production skills by me to like.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, yeah, very good production skills.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, because we were, we were confused because, you know, it was like, yeah.

[Jackie]

It'S no big deal. I love giving myself compliments.

[Kevin Clancy]

That was, that was special.

[John Feidelberg]

You guys say that's good also, like.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like she was some sort of wizard with the production. I took something that happened here, but.

[John Feidelberg]

I made it happen here.

[Kevin Clancy]

You guys ever heard of that in production?

[John Feidelberg]

Up to you.

[Kevin Clancy]

Well, time traveling on me.

[John Feidelberg]

I don't know whatever adjective you want to use to describe that. Go ahead. You have my blessing.

[Kevin Clancy]

I'll give you a list. Good. Amazing, Stupendous. Yeah, that's great. Okay. We were Just talking about Kanye before the show started. Kanye. I, I, I have a conflict in my mind with Kanye right now because it's so obvious that what he's doing is clickbait and attention seeking and fake and phony and just trying to even.

[John Feidelberg]

Know what it is anymore. I don't know if I can. I don't know if I can definitively be like, it's clickbait. He might be a Nazi. Okay, so, so he might just be like, I'm enough.

[Jackie]

He definitely has Nazi feelings.

[Kevin Clancy]

I actually don't think that. I, I think he is saying that to make, to prove a point about, like, here I, I can say this or can't say this, and, like, I actually don't think. I think if, you know, he were to, like, do business with a Jewish guy right now and he were to make money and they would, like, I don't think he would care. Or, Or I shouldn't say. Well, I don't know. I just don't. I think, I think he takes it to an extreme that he doesn't really believe in. He might have a problem with Jewish people. I, I don't know if he's a Nazi.

[John Feidelberg]

I. Look, man, it's one of those things, like, if you're gonna keep wearing sweats because I gotta call you a Nazi.

[Kevin Clancy]

You're right. You're right. We gotta keep that. That's gotta be pretty hard and fast.

[John Feidelberg]

You keep wearing the uniform. I gotta be like, I think he's a Nazi.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Okay.

[Kevin Clancy]

But so I, I just, I, you know, in my mind, it's either two things. One, he is that for real, and you're a scumbag, and, you know, we should not even platform that or give it attention, whatever, and then. Or the other is he's faking it. I don't really like giving in to that either, because you feel like you're getting played, I think.

[John Feidelberg]

But I think it's a mix of the two. I think he's actually a Nazi, and for some reason, I think it's funny.

[Kevin Clancy]

Well, so that is the lesson learned. Like, every time I see. Here, let me just tell you how to do it. Here's, here's how you can reconcile these things. If you just start thinking of Kanye west as a WWE wrestler, it's all good. Just think of that as a Persona. Just think like a wrestler. Like, when you see a wrestler, like when it was Sergeant Slaughter versus the Iron Sheik, and the Iron Sheik was like a terrorist. Yeah, he's just doing that to entertain. Makes it, like. Well, now, I don't. Like, I. I don't think of him as an amazing musical artist who's, like, wasting his talent anymore. I don't think of him. I don't even care what he's saying politically or socially. I just look at it like, okay, that is wwe. That's Monday Night Raw. And he's backstage cutting a promo, and he's like, fuck Jay Z. Like, he's just. It's like the Rock yelling at Stone Cold. It's whatever. And he's coming out in his ridiculous wrestling attire, which is the latest. Have you seen the latest one?

[Jackie]

No.

[John Feidelberg]

It's a full Ku Klux Klan outfit.

[Kevin Clancy]

It is so fucking. When.

[John Feidelberg]

When you.

[Kevin Clancy]

This is him, like, getting set up for the interview with academics.

[Jackie]

No.

[Kevin Clancy]

That is.

[John Feidelberg]

That is funny.

[Kevin Clancy]

That is funny. See, to me, that's funnier than, like, the swastika.

[John Feidelberg]

I actually thought this was the funniest one. I thought where they're standing up. They're standing next to each other because academics look so small. And it's just.

[Kevin Clancy]

He's trying to, like, racist black guy.

[John Feidelberg]

Like a Klux Klan black. I don't know. I don't think it's a joke. I don't think he's acting.

[Kevin Clancy]

No, no. I don't know. He's not. I. But if. If I view it through that lens, like, I've made this up in my head, because I don't. If it is real, I. I don't with it. If I think of it as, like, this is just funny entertainment, then I. Then I am in love with it.

[John Feidelberg]

See, it's actually, for me, it's kind of. Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

The fact that it is real is.

[John Feidelberg]

What makes the fact that it's real. Like. Like, I don't. I don't think this guy gets anything. Like, it's like. Yeah. Like, if you just had to explain what it is. Like. Yeah. I don't know. He's a. He's a black. Wait, even rapper. Crazier current rapper who is a Nazi and a clan member.

[Kevin Clancy]

I mean. Wait, wait, wait.

[John Feidelberg]

All that is objectively funny.

[Kevin Clancy]

I don't even think we. We appreciate two things right now. The chain with the Sha John shirt, that's a Diddy. That's Diddy shirt with a swastika hanging from his neck. Those. That, that picture right there is, like, evil personified. And he's like, I want to wear that.

[John Feidelberg]

Okay, That. I. I don't know why that, to me, is more offensive than the. The Clan outfit, but it is.

[Kevin Clancy]

No, no, but I'm like, ah, never mind.

[John Feidelberg]

That's not.

[Kevin Clancy]

The Diddy stuff is like, he was like, I think he has a tweet saying that, like, Cassie was, like, acting or the video was fake. That, to me, might be the lowest thing of all.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like, that woman was, like, kidnapped, tortured, and abused. And he's like, no, no. And the. The calling Jay Z's kids. Yeah, yeah. You didn't see that?

[John Feidelberg]

No.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah. No. You call them retarded. And I think that, like, those things to me, are worse. Someone was like, oh, like, now you're off Kanye. And, like, I do think the Hitler stuff and the Nazi stuff, as, of course, as heinous as Nazism is, I think there is a level of, like, flamboyance and. And intent there. Whereas, like, if you're just telling an abused woman that she's a liar and you're calling kids who may or may not have special needs, they're retarded. Like, that is mean. That is evil. Like, whereas the other is attention seeking, I think. And you might believe in it. And that is, like, that. Yeah. Yes. That's the worst of all. But if it's attention seeking, it's one thing. If you're just being, like, horrible to victims and. And kids in general, like, that is worse. Some people. That was. That was like, an interesting thing. Like, a debate I had with my followers because I said that. I was like, I think I draw the line here. He just tweeted, like, how come. How come Jay Z's kids are, like, ones in the spotlight, but this one never is? He's retarded. And I was like, that's it. I'm out. Like, no matter what happened with him and Jay Z, like, that they. At one point, they were like, all together and, like, family and all that shit. Like, I don't know.

[Jackie]

Do you think, like, Nazis are like. Like, that they have the line that they're like, oh, he lost me now.

[Kevin Clancy]

I wonder if they. If this is, like, good for the brand. Nazi brand.

[John Feidelberg]

I would. I would. I would think it's both. Because also, if you're a Nazi, if you're, you know, a true believer, you don't want him. You don't want a black guy being your head. Your head spokesperson. He's reappropriating our cause.

[Kevin Clancy]

Do you think he just likes a logo?

[John Feidelberg]

It is. It's not bad. It's. It's. I take.

[Kevin Clancy]

I've had before, and I've been afraid to say it, this was pretty fun. I remember getting the most demonetized show.

[John Feidelberg]

It's not even close. I remember doing a fucking rundown back in Milton, right. And I don't remember what it was we were talking about. It was me, you and Dan. Obviously Dave wasn't there that day. I was on the third floor millen.

[Kevin Clancy]

Those are the fun rundowns. We can always get a little loose. Like Dan, Dave would never do that, kind of.

[John Feidelberg]

And I, I. We were talking about Nazis and I was like. I remember just being like, look, say what you want about Adolf Hitler, but the dude could create a brand. And I was like, I was like, the swastika is like it was something else. And it was completely like that's strong branding. Yeah, man.

[Kevin Clancy]

I mean, I mean, I mean it's. It's the OG like Nike swoosh. It's the most.

[John Feidelberg]

You see that, you know, like I know what's up.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like you know, you know when you play the dozen and he's like, which brands are these?

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, yeah, it would be.

[Kevin Clancy]

If that was on the daily dozen. It would be 100% answer. Nobody would know.

[John Feidelberg]

One's like the Hindu science.

[Kevin Clancy]

And it really does like the Chat GPT logo is kind of like that. Like it's a very logoish logo. You know what I mean?

[Jackie]

Like, except I will say that they say graphic design. The whole everything about graphic design is just trying to make sure it doesn't look like a swastika or a penis. And like I. I've like. Of all the graphic design classes I've taken, I've realized it's really true. And it's really hard to not make a swans again to be. Oh, I just made like it's actually really easy to make.

[Kevin Clancy]

I just did that.

[John Feidelberg]

My buddy, my buddy asked me to make him a logo for his brand.

[Kevin Clancy]

I'll show it to you guys after. And then like we looked at it for a while. Like it kind of looks.

[John Feidelberg]

° I keep doing that.

[Jackie]

So I actually like as good of a branding it is. It's actually a little easier to come to that branding.

[John Feidelberg]

Oh yeah, yeah. So that is just as long as.

[Kevin Clancy]

That is just a swastika. Do you think that the Nazis had like a marketing meeting? I like because there is something to my. In my brain. It's like a cross. But you like, you know, like twisted or something. Like I wonder if they. Or if they said hey, let's take the symbol for peace or whatever the it is and make it like we're gonna do that or like. You know what I mean? Like how did the. How did the swastika come about.

[John Feidelberg]

I'm sure they were. I mean, what I know about the Nazis, they moved with intention.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

It was a lot of accidents with. Except for the shoe. Right.

[Kevin Clancy]

I don't know why they didn't burn the shoes.

[John Feidelberg]

I don't know the answer to that one.

[Kevin Clancy]

It's kind of a weird thing. Wouldn't you think you would just.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah. Like serial killing, Keeping them.

[Kevin Clancy]

Maybe. Maybe.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah. They're. They're.

[Kevin Clancy]

Oh, wow. I mean, like, objectively, that looks like the super bowl halftime show.

[John Feidelberg]

That's fire.

[Kevin Clancy]

That's like, if they all moved in a circle like that, people would be like, wow, the choreography is lit.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

I also kind of feel like the whole point, though is that they didn't move with intention. Like, all of them were kind of just. I don't know, I just went with it. Like, there wasn't.

[John Feidelberg]

Well, that's their excuse.

[Kevin Clancy]

I think the top dogs move with intention. And the rest of people, like, I was.

[John Feidelberg]

I mean, Goebbels, his main thing is, like, he was like the greatest propagandist of all time.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Like.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

You know what you're doing.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, those guys. But. But I think there was probably when you got down to the lower level, like, there's some guys who are like, it's either me or them.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah. I'm gonna get killed. So. But at the top, the, the. The. The eagle thing is also like, you know, you make that red, white, and blue dog. That's. That's an American flag, you know.

[John Feidelberg]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like, it's all just perspective. That's why I look at Kanye as a wrestler now. I'm like. It's just. It's just funny.

[John Feidelberg]

Dude, did we tell you about when we were in Italy and we went to a. Like a fair, I guess.

[Kevin Clancy]

What.

[John Feidelberg]

What was it called?

[Kevin Clancy]

Market. It was like a popup market. Market.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah. Like an open air market.

[Kevin Clancy]

A lot. Oh, yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Lot more knots of memorabilia than you expect.

[Kevin Clancy]

Well, yeah, listen, you're over in Europe and like the same way, like, if. If you have old antique in Europe, it's going to be from that.

[John Feidelberg]

Particularly Italy.

[Kevin Clancy]

They get a pass.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah. Big time pass.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like Germany.

[John Feidelberg]

Japan's like one of our greatest allies.

[Kevin Clancy]

Totally, totally. I think. I almost think that two nuclear bombs is like a. We're even.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Italy, though, is like, dog. Mussolini was like his boy, right hand man. And you guys, I don't know if you watch on the dozen. You know, I am not a geography guy, but like, they. Are they touching or they I mean, they're close. I don't know. Whatever. Italy and Germany, not touching. No, but I mean, everywhere in Europe, close. It's. It's just like, why. Why do they.

[Jackie]

But also, I feel like, because he was, like, the second third guy, everyone's like, well, at least it wasn't Hitler. So they kind of get a pass. In that sense.

[Kevin Clancy]

Austria is right in between it. Austria and Switzerland. Yeah. Yeah, I guess so.

[Jackie]

It's kind of like, if we're comparing guys, at least he wasn't Hitler, you.

[Kevin Clancy]

Know, I guess it's sort of like. It's like me and Dave, you know, Like, I'm not on Dave's level.

[John Feidelberg]

I don't know if that's a comment.

[Kevin Clancy]

I'm saying, like. Like, nobody would ever be like. Like, Dave would be the H Man in this case, and I would be Mussolini. It's like, yeah, you're. You were in there, but you're not. You're not. You know, you were just following, you know, so. Yeah, but. But Kanye in the. The Black Klansman.

[John Feidelberg]

I would. I would like to be clear. I think it's funny because it just doesn't jive. I think it's funny because it's just truly one of the greatest sketches of all time come to life.

[Kevin Clancy]

It's. It's Clayton. Do you guys know that. Do you ever watch Chappelle Show? Yeah. Do you know that he has the blind white supremacist kit? Yes. You don't know this. So his name is Clayton Bigsby. He's a blind white supremacist, and he's blind, so he does not know that he's black.

[Jackie]

And Chappelle is, like.

[Kevin Clancy]

It is a masterful performance. Then Woogie Boogie driving and. And then, like, he goes to a rally, and, like, they're like, take off your. Your hood, Clarence.

[John Feidelberg]

Take it off, Clayton.

[Kevin Clancy]

We want to see you. And he pulls it off and, like, their heads literally explode. Like, they CGI ahead, exploding. And. And then at the end. The best part is, like, when they go. When he found out that he was white, he, like, he was gonna kill himself. That's how. Dedicated to the cause.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

He was black.

[John Feidelberg]

Bill Burr's in the back here, right?

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah. Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Bill, I think Neil Brennan's head explodes. Yeah, I think. I think you see Burr somewhere, too.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah. Early Bird.

[John Feidelberg]

Don't be afraid.

[Kevin Clancy]

It is a. It is a show that. I'll actually say this much. It's a show that was so popular at a time when. Yeah. When if anybody from, like, my generation demographic Whatever. Says they've never said the word. Between rap music and, like, quoting.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Chappelle skits. Yeah, you have. You just have. That's okay. I'm not condemning you. But, like. And. And you said it, you know, not. Not in the nice way. Because of, like, this skit right here. It is. It is probably. If I had to pick. I don't know. I mean, there's a lot. But, like, I think this is the best Chappelle skit ever.

[John Feidelberg]

Yes.

[Kevin Clancy]

When. When there might be funnier ones or more popular ones, but, like, from concept to execution, like, when I watch you guys do your thing. Like, if you were sitting at that table and you came up with this, and then it was like, oh, can we do that? Can we not do it? And the way they pulled it off and did it, I'd be like, this is a master.

[John Feidelberg]

I would think it's this one too.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like, Charlie Murphy telling stories is very funny, but it's just. This is a story. This is like a unbelievable premise that he was really coming up with ideas.

[John Feidelberg]

That you can't even look at it. I didn't even look at that word.

[Kevin Clancy]

Oh, it's so good, man.

[John Feidelberg]

I. I don't. I actually. I'm gonna tell this story, and then I'm gonna let the group decide if it stays in or not. Oh, I like that. It's nothing. It's nothing about me. It's just. I don't know if I'm burning Tom's material because I feel like this.

[Kevin Clancy]

I. I think that's.

[John Feidelberg]

I feel like it should be more well known. And. No, I learned about this. Went to cigar Saturday night, msg. Unbelievably funny. Unbelievable. Like, I had really high expectations and blew him away.

[Kevin Clancy]

You know what? You know what Tom is. Let me just. Before he gets your story, I mean, he's a masterful comedian. Tom Segura oozes confidence.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

He doesn't give a. About anybody, anything other than what he's doing, what he cares about, like, what he cares about. He cares about what he doesn't. He doesn't give a. He has no hesitation. He has no. No fear, no nothing. I mean, he just. And you can hear it.

[John Feidelberg]

You can feel it.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like, it's unbelievable.

[John Feidelberg]

But he. He is telling a story of. I guess this was about 20 years ago, something like that. He got a job and he thought it was gonna change his life. And he got a job being kind of the co. National spokesman for Subway. He was gonna play Jared, obviously, was Jared and was the big star. But Jared, you could only promote healthy subs with. And so Subway was like, we have to advertise our unhealthy subs. So they hired this unknown comedian, Tom Segura, to play Jared's piece of brother who ate the unhealthy subs. Like meatball subs and stuff like that. And he was.

[Kevin Clancy]

And that's pre Tommy glow up.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, he was, like, looking like a guy and like that bald and you know, all that. And he would play. He was gonna play Jared's evil twin brother, essentially Jerome. And Tom said, that's a black guy's name. And the Subway team agreed with him. And they're like, actually, you're right. You're gonna be Jermaine instead. And he was like, that's way worse. Yeah. And so they shot, like, a bunch of commercials that. Where I think he said, like, one. He was in Jersey, and he's like, driving a car in reverse, just crashing into shit Meatball sub and spilling on himself. And he lost. They fired the marketing CMO of Subway, and I guess when they fire a cmo, they can everything all of their projects they've been working on. So Tom was like. He's like, I was really, truly depressed.

[Kevin Clancy]

But it was.

[John Feidelberg]

I was like, that was my moment. That was my.

[Kevin Clancy]

Those are those. We've heard those commercials. You know, you can live off those rest of your life, right?

[John Feidelberg]

He's like, I was gonna be like the second gu guy. And then he said, 10 years went by. And 10 years later, he turned on the TV and Jerry. Jerry was on TV not selling Subway this time. And he's like. He's like, 10 years would have gone by where I was filming commercials with him, friends with him, and he's like. And on that day, I would walk down the street and everyone would be like, you knew? He's like, I didn't know anything. He's like, that. If you said to spend 10 years with Jared, and I was thinking of.

[Kevin Clancy]

The opposite way how I was thinking, that's 10 years of checks. Oh, no, dude, I think, yo, 10 years of. Of a commercial like that, you're approaching, like, an answer, the Internet level of money where it's like, would you take that?

[John Feidelberg]

You probably. But it. No, I'm not. I think everyone thinks I'm a pedophile. No. Well, yes, everyone. Every. The Internet will think you're a pedophile.

[Jackie]

Because you spend 10 years has swastikas. And nobody, like, I. We were just talking, like, I don't know if he's a Nazi. Or not so like technically.

[Kevin Clancy]

But I think it would be more like I, I, I didn't think about people saying you would. You knew. I think you could plausibly be like, I shoot commercials for the guy. I don't know what he does when he goes home. But people being like, you, you knew, like I, I, you for sure have.

[Jackie]

To make it clear that you're not.

[Kevin Clancy]

I think if people said you're a pedophile, they're being silly. People saying you knew might be, that's like after 10 years you might see some tendencies. Yeah, yeah, that's, that is true. But also Tom went on to like live this better life if you were like, if you never made it. I don't think you're thinking that way about. I think you're thinking about, man, I would have had a good 10 year run.

[John Feidelberg]

Oh sure. Probably you.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yo, you can make bank being especially that if, dude, if Jared wasn't a rapist. That's a great bit, that's a great commercial bit. The evil, evil ex brother that has 20 years of legs. Every, you know, it's like mayhem. It's like you just keep coming up with scenarios, evil stuff, you know, and he always stuffs his face with a meatball sandwich at the end. There's new ugly.

[John Feidelberg]

You knew about that though?

[Kevin Clancy]

No, I knew, I knew he, I knew he was doing like Subway commercials. I didn't know about the evil brother and like all that. Yeah, I thought he was just like I was gonna be a spokesman as well. So like he would have been attached, but like he would have been attached attached. We have a Huel ad. Yes, we do. I believe. Good job, John.

[John Feidelberg]

Thanks. Totally intentional.

[Kevin Clancy]

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[John Feidelberg]

I'm not ate an hour ago.

[Kevin Clancy]

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[John Feidelberg]

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[Kevin Clancy]

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[Kevin Clancy]

I'm seeing $4 for Islanders as well. Oh, that's for tomorrow, though, not Sunday.

[John Feidelberg]

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[Kevin Clancy]

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[John Feidelberg]

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[John Feidelberg]

Game time.

[Kevin Clancy]

Who I had, man, I had. I had a weekend with my kids, dude, that I just need. I need like fatter, less talented, less motivated kids. Is brutal, man. Shay is in the middle of dance competition season. I cannot tell you how bad it is. It's awful, man.

[John Feidelberg]

Why?

[Kevin Clancy]

It's every weekend. Saturday, Sunday, her. Her first dance was that she had to be there at 7am and didn't finish until 6.30pm.

[John Feidelberg]

And do you make Keegan go to the whole thing?

[Kevin Clancy]

No, no, no. So Keegan. Keegan had football practice. Thursday, football game, Friday, football, a baseball game Saturday, baseball game Sunday, baseball practice today. It's like. And the whole time, so I'm like literally like driving her here, dropping him off. My parents are going to pick her up because I'm taking him to the game. Then I got to get his stuff over there. I got to drop her bag. It was like I. I blinked and it was like Sunday night at 10 o'clock and I was like, that was the weekend.

[John Feidelberg]

This sucks, dude.

[Kevin Clancy]

It's a lot of. I'm like, I guess. I guess once you get a little bit older, you can kind of get like to and from places on your own. So you're doing your activities. It's not as bad.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Younger than this, they're not doing anything. But right now they're in the era where they can do a ton of. They have to do a ton of that. That's one thing. I don't know. I don't know the stats or whatever. I feel like kids activities are an epidemic on society right now. Like they do so goddamn much because everyone's like, keeping up with the Joneses. Yeah. And it's like, I don't know. I used to play like one sport a season that was pretty Much. It maybe you mix in, like, you do music or you do theater or something like that. Like one extra.

[John Feidelberg]

Right.

[Kevin Clancy]

But it's like multiple sports, multiple things. Shay has dance, gymnastics, basketball, all the same, same season. Like, I'm like, you're the busiest girl I know. You're nine. She's at 12 hour. You know, dance competition. And I say it's awful. I mean, it's awesome when they're up there and doing their thing, but everything else is a lot.

[Jackie]

I also wonder if, like, kids activities are gonna start because, like, every. Every time there's like a coach or a teacher, I'm like, but why do you want to work with kids? Like, I feel like in the age.

[Kevin Clancy]

Of P. Diddy, it's like, I, I, I, I.

[Jackie]

Why? Why are you choosing in a profession?

[Kevin Clancy]

I used to think that. I think it's a little bit weird, like, you know, John's rapist, who was the. Didn't have a kid on the team and coach the team. But I've also now seen the other side of that. Like, the best sports program that I've seen is Keegan's travel team, which is like a paid job. So all the coaches, none of them have a kid on the team. And they are just coaches and they're actually the best, really. Now, maybe it's because they're just young dudes. I'm like, oh, I can tell you guys.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, when you're a young dude, that's. That's different.

[Kevin Clancy]

Right? Like, but even, but even, like, like this, this guy Anthony who runs this, it will get old eventually. And I, like, I think it's more that it's like they love the sport almost, you know?

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like. Like if you're just like a teacher or something, it's like, you love these kids.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Those guys like baseball.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

They don't like my kids.

[John Feidelberg]

You know, I like baseball. They won't let me play with professionals. Kids will do.

[Kevin Clancy]

But those guys, I totally flipped on that because, like, I would have thought the people who don't have kids are the weirdos and the people who are the serious travel team are the overly serious. And it's the total opposite. It's the dads who are the coaches who are like, screaming at their kid and taking it too seriously, and the guys who get paid for it are like, we're just here to teach them and, like, have a good time. And like, hopefully we win and then we do. Like, they are the best program because they do all the things right. You know what I mean?

[John Feidelberg]

It's very fun. I'm thinking more about that just like, like, look, everyone else my age is busy and can't keep playing baseball.

[Kevin Clancy]

I gotta hang out with the nine year olds. They want to play baseball every single day. I can't go to my friends, they're like, no, dude, I have a life. I'm an adult. I can't play baseball every day.

[John Feidelberg]

The Yankees won't let me play and everyone else says they have work to do. So I guess I just gotta play with kids all time.

[Kevin Clancy]

It was Keegan got his first hit after. So he, I stupidly played him up a level, like two levels basically. When he was six, he was playing on a team with eight year olds because there wasn't like a local program because we kept getting kicked out, if you remember that whole drama. And so the one we settled on is a great program. But he was like in way over his head. And he went from being like, dad, pitch homers every day. Being like, let's go play baseball. I want to go play baseball. I want to play baseball. I hit homer every single time to like, I don't even like baseball anymore. Because when a whole season, his first step out, he got a hit. They threw the ball away at first and he started to take the turn to second, but it bounced right to the guy and he tagged him out.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

But it was the first at bat and I was like, oh, okay, wow, this kid's like six. He's gonna hold his own. Like, I don't even make contact the rest of the season. And he started to really be like, I don't like baseball. And I was like, I have completely botched this. Like, I ruined this kid's like, love for the game immediately. And. But I was like, give it like some time because you'll be seven next year and that'll be a difference. And he got a two run double on Saturday. That I, I was like, is a gift from God above. But I will say this. It was 35 degrees. It was, it was, it was really nice. On Friday, everyone was in Central park, it was 70. Saturday, it's like 78 degrees. It was, it was a record for the largest drop in one hour. It went from 78 to 51 in one hour.

[John Feidelberg]

Really?

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, it was almost like a 20, 20, almost 30 degree drop because there was all these videos on Tick Tock if you saw it, of people, like, Central park was crazy. It was one of those things where like every single square inch was taken up by towels. And then the next video was everyone Running home, like, oh, my God. So it was this day after that. So it was already. It was cold again. 35 degrees. It's wet out. And all the kids are, like, cold and keen. We're about to, like, start the game, and a bunch. And these other kids are like, probably at least a couple of them will, like, play college ball. They're, like, really good, and they're all, like, getting pumped up and loving it, and. And Keegan looks at me, and he goes. In the most, like, genuine, exasperated way, he goes. I was at home on the couch relaxing. I was like, apple tree, bro. But I tried to tell him. I was like, dude, I wasn't like this when I was eight.

[John Feidelberg]

I'm like.

[Kevin Clancy]

I'm like, this one. I'm 38. 28, but not eight. I used to, like, want to play.

[John Feidelberg]

You can't.

[Kevin Clancy]

You can't be like that yet, dude. You're in. You're in third grade. Second grade. But, man, that. The. The hit was hilarious. The. The reaction from the dads on the sideline with me, it was like that. I don't even think Keegan cared as much. Keegan was like, yeah, that was cool.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

And I was, like, literally hugging guys and like, that. Like, you can hear in the video I was filming, there's. There are dads who are like, yeah, like, going bananas over it. What'd you do this weekend?

[Jackie]

Like, hung out.

[Kevin Clancy]

Nothing good.

[Jackie]

What did I do?

[John Feidelberg]

You. You take all questions so accusatory. I know, I know, I know. Jackie's probably nothing.

[Kevin Clancy]

Jackie's probably, like, the one doing the most. I guess you're out there, too, doing, like, fun and interesting.

[Jackie]

I had a gala.

[Kevin Clancy]

See?

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Okay.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Not a big deal. I'm kind of girl who goes to Gallas.

[Kevin Clancy]

What does that mean?

[Jackie]

I mean, I'd, like, paid 200 for it. So it's like.

[Kevin Clancy]

Wait, what was it? Was it a charity event?

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah. I remember going through that phase. Yeah.

[Jackie]

Like, it's not.

[Kevin Clancy]

Ours was. My one friend was in a. It was called Go To. Like, the Go To Go to. I don't know, some charity. And then we'd always have a Go to event, and it would be like, 200. We dress up and we go and back in, like, a degenerate era.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Remember being like, what are we doing here?

[John Feidelberg]

The charity event. Open bar. Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

That is a funny era. I remember thinking, like, oh, am I like. Am I, like, classy? And then.

[Jackie]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Everybody from, like, 22 to 28 is doing this.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

I had a birthday Party. I went to lunch with friends.

[John Feidelberg]

Do you get. Do you get presents for your friend? Like, if you go to a birthday party?

[Jackie]

I should have. I'm just realizing. Oh, my God. Okay, I'll get on that. I didn't. No, no. But. But I, I do, like, kind of Ish. Mostly. I'll just get them like, tequila.

[Kevin Clancy]

Tequila, yeah. That's a good.

[Jackie]

We're just like, I'll get you, like, Don Julio or like, something like that.

[Kevin Clancy]

And then that's a good gift, though, at that age when you're like, you don't want to spend that sort of money on that stuff, you know?

[Jackie]

Yeah, I don't have. I'm, I don't really have anything important.

[Kevin Clancy]

What did you do at the gala? Were you, Were you solo or with you? Like, it was like a date thing.

[Jackie]

Or was it with friends and just.

[Kevin Clancy]

Oh, have you heard from rape guy?

[Jackie]

Rape guy? Remind me. That's so crazy.

[John Feidelberg]

They got. You were saying, like, you weren't raped.

[Kevin Clancy]

Oh, yeah.

[Jackie]

Okay. So I kind of accidentally. Oh, my God, that's so crazy when.

[Kevin Clancy]

You'Ve gotta think hard to figure out who the rape guy is.

[Jackie]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

I really wanted to just put the nail in the monetized coffin with the rape talk too, you know, like Nazis and. Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's talk about rape.

[Jackie]

I kind of think I ended up ghosting him.

[Kevin Clancy]

I had a feeling you on. On that vlog, which is, like, one of my favorite pieces of content in, like, so long. I thought that was so funny. I, I, you were kind of like, yeah, that guy, like, he's not interested in me. And I was like, that guy would still.

[John Feidelberg]

If you give him.

[Jackie]

Really?

[Kevin Clancy]

Yes, totally. If you texted him, like, come over, he'd be like, cool.

[Jackie]

I actually have. Okay, well, I know I, I have a thing where, like, if I feel a guy pull back because he didn't text me back for two days. And, like, if I feel a guy like, like, pull back at all, I go all the way. Like, I completely go all the way back. And, like, I won't ever text them. Like, I really don't.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like, it's a good way to be.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

But okay, can't get rejected if you run away in fear every time.

[Jackie]

Exactly.

[Kevin Clancy]

Slight hurdle.

[Jackie]

I actually had a dream the other day that, you know, like, in severance, when he's, like, burning something into his eyes.

[John Feidelberg]

Yes.

[Jackie]

Yeah, whatever. And it just said, and I was looking at the words, it was glowing, and it was like that. And, and it said, just let him reject you. And I Was like, oh, my God.

[Kevin Clancy]

That was.

[Jackie]

And I remember dream. Or it was a dream and I woke up and I was like, that's so weird. Yeah, it was so weird.

[Kevin Clancy]

Okay, as much as I say that that that's a good thing, like, I think you need to normalize rejection.

[Jackie]

I know, I know, I know.

[Kevin Clancy]

I need to just, like, I'm watching the Temptation island and. And Summer House, all these dating things, you know, And I'm like, these people just are. Shouldn't be together.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

And that's okay. And they're like, who's the villain? Who's the bad guy? Who won the breakup? Who won that? There's, like, so many people. You get caught up in a hookup or something, Lives drastically change in the middle of a relationship. And, like, if it doesn't work, it doesn't work.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

I don't know. I'll take it personal, keep it moving.

[Jackie]

Have an activity for the class, the listeners or something. Because the past, like, few weekends I've had, like, I'll, like, meet a guy out, and then they'll be like, oh, my God, let's hang out. Like, they'll really be into me, and then the next day. And then, like, I'll leave or whatever. And then we'll get them, we'll hang out. And next day I wake up and then they, like, don't text back or whatever. So then I'm like, is it my Instagram? Like, maybe they're looking me up on my Instagram and being like, this chick is whack. Is it that? Like, wait, so.

[John Feidelberg]

So, so what's your Instagram like?

[Jackie]

Like, I would. I guess, like, maybe it's like, some videos that I'm like, this guy, he didn't rate me.

[Kevin Clancy]

That. I think we. We've talked about this before. Like, there was. That girl blogged about you right in.

[John Feidelberg]

Like, no, she didn't blog on me. She just had a blog.

[Kevin Clancy]

Right. And I was like, oh, my God.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Which is wildly hypocritical of us.

[John Feidelberg]

But, like, it was basically like, I know what I say. Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah. It's almost like it's not you, it's me.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, but I know what.

[Kevin Clancy]

Where me is going to end up on that website because of things I say and do.

[Jackie]

It's a fair concern and it's a good move for them.

[John Feidelberg]

But.

[Jackie]

But some. Then sometimes. Then the other day, like, a guy was about to follow me, so I archived everything. Still no. Still no text.

[John Feidelberg]

What does that mean?

[Kevin Clancy]

I mean, look at your.

[Jackie]

Like, you. Whatever. So everyone go to my Instagram.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like, if you look at.

[Jackie]

And when you see that there's a.

[Kevin Clancy]

Place that's like, you know, the one about rape is not there.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

When you see a post that's. It raises concern. Just comment on it. But comment something nice. Like, just say.

[Kevin Clancy]

I don't know. See, I think. Sorry, finish.

[Jackie]

Just say, like, cute explanation point. And then. I know. And that. But that actually means. Take this the down.

[Kevin Clancy]

This is why I like that I think this is a good Instagram page, because I don't like when a girl's Instagram page is like, nothing but, like, pictures of flowers. And it's like, I don't know what you look like. I don't know what you are like. You know what I mean? It's like too artsy, too voyeurish, whatever. And I also don't like when it is like 60,000 selfies.

[John Feidelberg]

Selfies.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like. Like, to a crazy. I mean, I know everyone posts that, but, like, when you see. It's usually like influencers. And when you see some of these, that. It's literally just row after row of just like. Like that. There is a level to me of, like, you got to be crazy self absorbed to do that. If you're. If you're making money and you're like, famous, fine.

[Jackie]

Physically. Selfies or like, pictures.

[Kevin Clancy]

No, no. Yeah, you take pictures. Pictures of what this is for, you know, like, this is a picture of like, you know, you girls together. Yeah, that's why I'm saying I think this is a good one. This is like. That's a picture of you with your girls. Like, a picture of you, your girls. Someone else taking it. Yeah. This is a picture of John covered in bananas with you giving the thumbs up. Like, with, you know, a mixed in, like, mirror selfies. Cute. Like, so you. You know. But that's like. I think this is like a normal. This is. This gives me normal girl vibes.

[John Feidelberg]

Why do people. Why is it with Instagram, people, like, act like it's a page. You have to be curated.

[Jackie]

Yeah, because it is. Like.

[John Feidelberg]

But why? Like, like, my Instagram is just people things. People collaborate and then we get to.

[Jackie]

Like, the whole nose job stuff, and then it's kind of stinking Instagram.

[John Feidelberg]

But, like, why would it be anything else? No, I know you gave up on.

[Kevin Clancy]

Instagram like, a year ago. Nobody is worse than Instagram than John.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, but, like, I. I think about it just like how I use Twitter. If I'm in a video and someone tagged me in it, I retweet It. Which is like, you collaborated with me.

[Kevin Clancy]

Sure.

[John Feidelberg]

Here you go. That's the video I was in.

[Kevin Clancy]

You would be great if you used it.

[John Feidelberg]

No, I wouldn't.

[Kevin Clancy]

You would be.

[John Feidelberg]

No.

[Jackie]

Yeah, yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Everything about it.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah. I'm saying if you liked it, you'd be good at it.

[John Feidelberg]

Oh, okay. That's different.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

If you used, like, you have.

[Kevin Clancy]

You have a wide array of. You can talk about a lot of different things and do so. And, like, you could just do, like, kind of what I do, but less like, here's a show just like, you're talking. You know what I mean?

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

And talk about all these different topics and people would love it. I mean, I've always said if you did fashion stuff and workout stuff, you would smash.

[John Feidelberg]

I would kill myself.

[Kevin Clancy]

But you don't think you could do it in a way where you're not. Again, you're not like, I'm the fitness influencer. You're just like, I worked out today. Like, here's what I did.

[John Feidelberg]

No, you would be great at Instagram.

[Kevin Clancy]

But, like, if I started just scrolling one day and saw you, like, post like a. Oh, it's too late now. I would lose my.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Running around, actually. Yeah, Maybe. Maybe now is that. Maybe he, like, built it up. John's on Instagram.

[John Feidelberg]

But, like. But, like. Well, that's what I still don't understand. Like, that. Why is that social media different than anything else? Like, if someone tags me in a video I did on Twitter, I retweeted. No thought, no question asked. Now, like, with this, we're like, oh, should we invite so and so to collaborate? Like, yeah, they're in the video.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, yeah, I get that. I just know what you're saying, but I'm just saying from a point of view of using it, like. Like, if you had a video that was, like, you would never do this. I understand it, but. Because you would never be the type to, like, set up a phone and record yourself, you know? Yeah, but if you had, like, somehow footage of you jumping rope while you were laughing or whatever, it would be.

[John Feidelberg]

But I would. Oh, my God.

[Kevin Clancy]

If never that.

[John Feidelberg]

If anyone ever did. I'm sure many people have. You should kill yourself, dude.

[Kevin Clancy]

So many people have. Like, so many people have.

[John Feidelberg]

Like, so many people I respect have. And I still stand by my.

[Jackie]

Have you seen the guy who jump rope ropes to, like, the really hot guy who jump ropes on Instagram, though?

[Kevin Clancy]

No.

[Jackie]

That is, like, I'll show you later. He's just, like, really, really, really get it. Like, hot.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like, he Just like jumps over here.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

God damn. Take a break. Pours water on you. Jesus Christ.

[John Feidelberg]

God damn.

[Kevin Clancy]

That guy must be. I gotta pull this guy up now. The fact that you couldn't even speak.

[Jackie]

Just type in like hot jump rope guy.

[John Feidelberg]

You typ hot jump rope guy.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, that's, is that, that probably should be his at hot jump.

[Jackie]

Yeah, it might be. I don't know why it gets so weird about him. I don't know. Just pull it up. Wait, I think it's like you pull.

[Kevin Clancy]

It up digging for that. I, I, I have a take that if I ever get on the subway, take show. I'm spoiling it. I don't think men should be on Tik Tok or Instagram completely. Yeah, right. Like, like we just should not. And I understand that basically kills my entire career and all that. Like, it is not meant for us. No, it is the most feminine girly thing and it's great for you guys and maybe we could watch it. We can like look at it. We can be creeps on it. But like, and I'll, I'll throw out the caveat just for myself. Like, if you're trying to be funny, if you're using it to promote your comedy, all that stuff, fine. If you have ever like grabbed your boys or solo been like, all right, I'm take my shirt off, I'm going to play this song. I'm going to like lick my lips, do the Josh Richards thing. Like, you should kill yourself. That, that is, that is insane. That is like so such short sighted behavior in the moment to be like, I mean, yeah, like I'm hot. Girls like me. Like they'll want to me over this. It's like, that's probably true. But then you're gonna be that guy who's done that for the rest of your life.

[Jackie]

But then, but then that, that's how all these like tick tock kids make their money now. It's like they actually made a career.

[Kevin Clancy]

Well, but like, but you look like, look at Josh. Like Josh, did you see his video the other day? Talking about the other day a little while ago talking about the eye roll thing and he was like, the video was just, you know what I'm talking about?

[Jackie]

No.

[Kevin Clancy]

So back in like their hype house or whatever, they, there was a particular trend with a particular song where it would like build up, build up, build up. And then they would, would go like, they would go like this and like roll their eyes back in their head like that. He was like, yeah. And girls would go bananas for it. So they just kept making these videos where they're, you know, licking their lips and go up to the camera and then like at the. The beat drop or whatever, and it's the worst thing in the world. And now that Josh is like a little bit older and like a full blown businessman and like this, you know, like, unbelievable talent. He clearly hates it. It. Yeah. And he made a video being like, will I ever escape this? Because people just use it in their. They stitch it and they. They call him like the eye roll guy and they make fun of it and he's like, I think I'm just destined to have these jokes cracked on me for. And he's doing it in a fun way. He's fine. It's not like it's like ruined his career by any means, but he's just like, this sucks that I did that and I hate it and I wish I didn't and. But whatever. It is what it is. But that's what I mean, it's like you can't. You can't undo that. The Montana boys, right?

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

The ones who like, walk in the line and like. Yeah. Like, I don't care what they go on to do or whatever, how much money they have, I'm always gonna be like, that was so ridiculous. Like, how I just. Don't you have any. I was gonna say, don't you have any friends? But I guess when your friends are people who would do it too.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like if I would pray to God if you guys ever walked in here and I was doing an Instagram with my shirt off, jumping rope or some.

[John Feidelberg]

You'D be like, stop it. The thing with that, that, like, like, I. This is so weird. That, like my Instagram, I guess, like sometimes I get like sponsored posts of. I get a lot of workout stuff. And as soon as I saw the video, I know what light he's using because I've been advertised the light. And the light, like so drastically changes your body.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

It's like this light that, like you, like, fold open, like gonna become an influencer. And you. And you put it above. And it was. Someone was just like, here's what I look like without the light.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

And then he puts it up and it's like, here's. And it's like it completely transforms what you look like. And that's my problem with social media is that it's. And like, everyone's got a million problems with social media. But like, like that, like, like I saw that light the other day and.

[Jackie]

What bothers Me is like into this light too.

[Kevin Clancy]

Getting delivered on Tuesday.

[John Feidelberg]

I watched the video, don't get me wrong. But like that dude's pretending that social media. I feel like he's pretending like, like pretending period.

[Kevin Clancy]

Stop.

[John Feidelberg]

But it's pretending that it's real. Like, and I, I was thinking about the other day when we were like, we're working on mascots and stuff like that. And I'm like, this, it's almost like social media is a documentary where I hate documentaries. Because it's like you're pretending this is what happened and you're just kind of.

[Kevin Clancy]

Just almost like a fictional line and.

[John Feidelberg]

It'S like a fictionalized version. Whereas like with that, when we're doing mascots, like where this is all pretend guys, like, this isn't.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, we're agreeing. Like, it's the same thing for me with wrestling and people. Like, that's fake. It's like so Breaking Bad.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like, this is like, he's not a real, he's not a real meth cook.

[John Feidelberg]

We are all under the agreement that this is not real.

[Jackie]

Right.

[John Feidelberg]

But I don't feel like that happens with social media.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like, I agree with that and I, but I also think that the people who kind of exploit that and like there are dumb people out there who think it's real. Big money. Rock on. But it comes at the cost of someone like me being like, you're gay.

[Jackie]

But, but like with social media, it's again, like everyone's so dumb that you do believe it's real. And it's like, but I don't like that.

[John Feidelberg]

That turns me off.

[Jackie]

Yeah, but it's important because it's like you can picture yourself in a certain way, but as if other people don't picture you in that way, then like it's not going to get you anywhere. And it's a way to convince other people that you are that. But you are ripped. It's kind of like they treat you differently.

[Kevin Clancy]

Well, the whole thing is it begets. It's like, it's like a self fulfilling prophecy where it's like, act that way. Put that light on. Do it. You become it.

[Jackie]

Yes.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

And it's like, but it's like the whole thing we did to start the show where like you're not even having a real discussion about something. You're just discussing whether it's real or fake. Whereas, like, is Kanye Nazi or is he not? Like, it's just like we're debating whether things are real or fake happening with them.

[Kevin Clancy]

I think you underestimate as always, when we, you know, we always say, like, Middle America, like, football fans are like, there's a lot of people out there who just watch and, like, you know.

[John Feidelberg]

Oh, I'm not, I'm not saying. Again, I'm not saying, like, it shouldn't exist or, like, there's no. I don't understand the logic of it. I'm just saying I don't like it.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I, I think there are people who just, like, take it at face value, and they're like, like, that's. I, I, I think, you know, doing the vlog and doing what you do, like, there's plenty of people out there who, who just want to, like, look at this producer in New York City, live her life, because they're just like, wow. You know what I mean? Something that's, like, so normal to you is probably, like, unbelievable to them, because there are people who just, like, want to watch a little slice of life that's not theirs or whatever. And like, like. And then, you know, there's the hyperized version of that where it's like, you're Alex Earl or something.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Oh, my God. You're like a goddess, you know?

[Jackie]

Did you guys see the whole, like, influencer drama and everything that happened a.

[Kevin Clancy]

Few weeks back with the New York City influencer?

[Jackie]

Yeah, the New York City boring and everything. But it's kind of like, wait, who is this? They were just like, there was this one girl that was like, hey, hot take. But, like, all these New York City influencers suck, and they have no personality and, like, whatever. But, like.

[Kevin Clancy]

And then all the new extended influencers proved her true by being, like, they were offended by it, and they were, like, bitchy about it. And it was like, I think Jack Mack made a video being like, if you were really, like, an influencer, you'd.

[John Feidelberg]

Be like, people talk about, like, New York, L.A. influences. Like, it's rap.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, I guess so. Yeah. Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

New York's not doing nothing in the streets.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

West side, what? We have rap beefs going on between coastal influencers.

[Kevin Clancy]

Some girl's gonna end up dead on the streets. West coast influencer lights her up.

[Jackie]

Yeah, but. But also, it's kind of like. But you need those crazy, like, people who don't have your lifestyle, who have, like, these crazy aesthetic lifestyles, because it's just, like, it's interesting and it's entertaining to be like, that is an intelligence, insane lifestyle. Like, don't follow them if you don't want to.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, I. I think it's a level of like you. It's like you're almost suspending reality. But I think there's plenty of people out there who think it's all real and don't get the lighting and don't get the acting and don't get all that, you know? Yeah. And those people are dumb and they get preyed upon and then there are people like us who are maybe a little more savvy, who are like, that's fake and you don't like it or you say that's fake, but I'm just gonna watch it and enjoy it. There's levels to the whole thing. But. But I mean, it's like, what's going on?

[John Feidelberg]

Who are like the, like, like, who are the influencers right now?

[Jackie]

Like, acquired style. Do you know her?

[John Feidelberg]

No.

[Jackie]

Okay.

[Kevin Clancy]

I don't think we're gonna know any of these.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

I would be stunned if we know anything. I'm like, Logan Paul.

[John Feidelberg]

You know what I mean?

[Kevin Clancy]

Like, the guys I would know are probably considered dinosaurs now.

[John Feidelberg]

Dude. There was an interesting article on the Pause the other day about how like, how it's. They've gone as far as the manosphere can take them. Yeah. Why they're like starting and it was about how like, you know, like going like hardcore masculine culture is the easy route for like an influencer.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

But then that plateaus and then you can't get any further.

[Kevin Clancy]

Kind of stuck.

[John Feidelberg]

And then he's like. And then that. And then that's what I mean, you've been that. This is what. That's why like now they have, you know, this reality show and that's to be like, hey, we're not just.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, because it's funny. It's wrestling and boxing.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like you have to think of the two most male things in the world.

[John Feidelberg]

Even like YouTube vlog. Like all like their whole lives have been.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Like it's. It was male dominated industries. And then you get to a point and you're like. Which don't get me wrong, that point is incredibly high.

[Jackie]

Like the Paul brothers now I feel like they've come around. They've proven that they're actually like kind of normal guys. As of recent.

[John Feidelberg]

But I again, this article argued that.

[Jackie]

That is because they.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, it was.

[Kevin Clancy]

They realized they've grown up. Like, I mean. Yeah, dad now. You know what I mean? It's like that all that stuff comes with ages, I think.

[John Feidelberg]

I. I don't think it means like they're evil. They realize like they're trying to go for the other side now. It's just like, that we're not just one thing that does get to a point for everyone where you're like, all right, I don't really want to keep.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, this dude. That's.

[Jackie]

Well, no, you.

[Kevin Clancy]

I. I just think, like, the world is way more cyclical, I think, than people realize than. I was talking about this with baseball the other day because we were talking about the torpedo bats.

[John Feidelberg]

And what's your. What's your torpedo bat opinion?

[Kevin Clancy]

So the Yankees, like, came up with a new shaped bat, which is, like, crazy enough. No one's ever done it before. Every bat has always looked the same, I think, the entire history of baseball. And this bat starts skinny, gets wide, and gets skinny again. So it's like looks like a bowling pin almost, which is just not how bats usually are. And they're mashing the ball. I think it's still a little bit of, like, an early, small sample where it's like. I don't know how much it really affects it. I think if it wasn't the Yankees who did it first, I'd probably have a different opinion.

[John Feidelberg]

I think they're doing nothing wrong. I think baseball should make sure it's not again. So I agree with you in the sense that it's been a weekend. Let's see it play out a little bit longer.

[Kevin Clancy]

But it was the perfect storm because they hit nine home runs and scored 20 runs. Aaron Judge hit three of those home runs with a normal bat. Like, it was not all.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, all of that.

[Kevin Clancy]

But it was like, if that didn't happen, I don't think it would be a big. As big of a deal. But it's coincided with a lot of home runs.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, but if it. If it continues, I do think the league should be like, hey, no one can use these bats. But I don't think the Yankees are doing anything.

[Kevin Clancy]

But. So this is my point. I think the league's gonna say everybody use them, because I think they want home runs and they want.

[John Feidelberg]

But there's also. Alex Cora said yesterday, he's like. He's like, we were using him in spring training.

[Kevin Clancy]

He's like, I heard some people maybe were using it last year.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, he was like, we didn't like him. Like, yeah, so it's.

[Kevin Clancy]

Right.

[John Feidelberg]

It is very much like, my point.

[Kevin Clancy]

Of this argument was like, we were talking about, will they ban it? Will they, like, institute it, whatever. And this one guy on one of the dads at Keegan's baseball team knows like. Like, several major league GMs and insiders and stuff. He's plugged into the league and he was talking about how Manfred wants. Manfred has said this is my final job being commissioner, so, like, he doesn't care what happens after this, so. And that he wants to institute, like, some of this crazy, you know, Nico Harrison. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And yeah, the. The marathon. Yeah. He said he thinks he really wants to do the golden at bat thing where it's like you can just pick, you know, Aaron Judge could just bat right now, like, out of order.

[John Feidelberg]

That's crazy. But, boy, would that be. Well, that's the thing. But.

[Kevin Clancy]

But this was. My point was right now I.

[John Feidelberg]

Look, you can pick whoever you want to throw the game. Winning touchdown.

[Kevin Clancy]

Good argument. Good argument. I think that right now it's like, we got to keep up with the N. We got to try to catch the NFL. We need more bells and whistles. We got to join the circus. Because it feels like everything just goes up, up, up, up, up. But I think that, like, eventually there's probably a motion, a. A movement of people being like, like, the NBA's become too much of a circus.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

And I want just like a regular sport. And if baseball stayed the course, maybe fans would come back around and be like, this game has stayed true. But if you join the circus, you can't undo the circus.

[John Feidelberg]

Right.

[Kevin Clancy]

And it's very tempting. I think a lot about, like, this with content, too. It's like. Like there's probably a bunch of trends and Griffs that we could have jumped on and in that moment, we might have spiked and maybe like the Pauls did with the manosphere stuff. But then you reach a. A wall and you're like, well, now we can't do this other thing.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Or now we can't be taken seriously because. And if you stay the course, you don't maybe have those spikes, but you have the longevity, you know? And so I was thinking that about the bats, like, you know, and baseball trying to keep up, and it's like, just be. Just do what you're good at and be what you are. Baseball is a game of records and history and all that, and it's probably never going to get you to win, you know, a day of the week like the NFL does, or be huge in fantasy or whatever, but just crush it with your base, you know? Now maybe it's easier said than done. Right now, I think, like, baseball, because NBA dipped, I think baseball is probably the best place it's been in, like, probably 15, I think.

[John Feidelberg]

So I think I.

[Kevin Clancy]

First of all, I do Think they juice the. The balls this year. I say juice the balls this year. This is the most eyes you've ever had. Otani. Yeah. Judge Soto. Yeah. Like just go all out. And basketball, as much as it was crushing, I think they went like a little too far with things that don't really matter. But when they start to add up, it's like, I don't care about like the led court, but when I see it, I'm kind of like, meh.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

You know, and then. And when you add that to this and to the that and all of a sudden it's like, I don't know. This doesn't even feel like I'm watching the same thing anymore. It's like baseball has been the same thing for 200 goddamn years, for better or worse. So. And I think there's something too, like not chasing always. It always. Even the. All these platforms. Like, I came out with short form video, so I'm gonna do short form video and I'm gonna. It's like, just do what you're good at.

[John Feidelberg]

I'm with that 100.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

But I do. I. I get like, it's. I do think that would be really intense and cool. I don't. I think it changes the game very much, obviously. But yeah, if you. Dude. If you just be like, poppy, you're up, dude.

[Kevin Clancy]

Right.

[John Feidelberg]

Come on. Imagine the crowd when there was so there was one like.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like, like you don't know. You probably know who it's going to be, but like you don't know for sure, right? He comes out of the dugout and. And by the way, you have to literally use a golden bat. The bat has to be a special bat. And you come out and the crowd.

[John Feidelberg]

Goes like a wrestling entrance. Now batting for the Boston Red Sox, number 34, David. Or David. Like, dude, there was one. Like it was 90. Was it 99 ALDS maybe where Pedro walked out to the pen. Cuz it was like he didn't start that day.

[Kevin Clancy]

And it was like, but he's available.

[John Feidelberg]

But he's available. So Pedro walked from the bullpen to the. I'm sorry. Walked from the dugout to the bullpen and the place was going nuts. It was like, holy Pedro's going to in this game. Like, it was crazy to have that moment where you're like, yo, we're breaking in our big dog.

[Jackie]

Or.

[Kevin Clancy]

Or like, I mean, what. What's stopping baseball from just being like 11 on 11 football? Like, like you have an offensive defense. We have a great. All of our hitters Then we have a great defensive.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, but make it like, then you're, I mean, you're obviously, you're changing the game entirely.

[Kevin Clancy]

You're taking away five tool players, which is the most valuable. I agree. But I'm also just saying like you're, you're pretty much changing the game entirely if you're doing a golden event.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like a batting order is the essence. I mean it is completely bastardizing the game in the sense of like that used to be a thing like, you know, you need your guy up, you got to get to him and now you just don't have to do that. Like, but it would be. Yeah, you know, but, yeah, I think.

[John Feidelberg]

But also we, we always think these things like completely change the game and then they don't. If you look back, I mean, imagine.

[Kevin Clancy]

The hub up about the three point line at one point basketball and it's like this is just as standard as it gets.

[John Feidelberg]

The three point. I mean the hockey had the two line pass that they was banned for a while, has since been brought back. Now they're talking about banding again and like little things like the goalie can't go behind the raising the mound going. Yeah. Like, it's like you think as a fan, like this is gonna change the world I live in. But yeah, it's about the same.

[Kevin Clancy]

And also, even if it does, it changes like your world and then you're dead. And the kid who grew up on it doesn't know the.

[John Feidelberg]

So you know, back very much like some like old man shit being like, this is gonna change. Like, no, it's not, dude. It'll be fine.

[Kevin Clancy]

Rules don't change the game. Players change the game. Like Steph Curry's changed the game. Yeah. Big time home run. Yeah. Yeah, that is true. I, I am reaching a point as an old man. Like, I, I don't know if you heard the news. I have deemed this the, I've consulted the console.

[John Feidelberg]

What does that mean?

[Kevin Clancy]

This is, this is your own gibberish language. No one knows what you're talking about. I will not console this year, no matter what. They have like earned that from me and I've like learned, you know, enough that like, I, I will give them the slack that they deserve and if they bomb, they bomb. But I will ride this till the very end. I will cancel. I will Cancel on game162 if I have to when they're 70 games out. But I'm not gonna bail on them because last last year was just like, it just proved what's Always been there, but I've never really experienced is that like, I mean, they didn't start playing good until like late July.

[John Feidelberg]

Right.

[Kevin Clancy]

You know, it's just insane. And people and I, I, I, I'm not surprised, but I guess I am a little bit. Like, they lost the first game and Juan Soto was up in the 9th and, and was the final end and people were jumping off the bridge and I was like, I can't even entertain this anymore. Like, I can't. And I actually went almost the opposite direction. Like, Frank was flipping out. And I, like, I retweeted it being like, we're back, baby. Because I'm like, it's like, Kanye. Frank is like, Kanye being a Nazi. I am here for the entertainment value. I will not take the baby debate as far as the, in the, the engagement, the debate, the argument over like that what's going on? You're just entertainment. And I, and I think if I'm this way now when I'm 60, like, I can't take any of the sports talk radio nonsense.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

They're talking the other day. Soto doesn't move the needle now. It's been a game. It was one game. And I'm just like, I can't. Which is tough to be in this business though, because, like, it's where you make your bones.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

I mean, making this freak out videos, reacting to the freak out videos. And if you're just like, you're the guy who's like, I'm just gonna wait, guys.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah. Nobody gives a.

[Kevin Clancy]

But I just can't. I can't. I've never like.

[John Feidelberg]

But particularly with a soda level guy. Like, when you're that level. I know. I just know what you're gonna do. Why am I gonna free. I remember the start of this Bruins year. My dad and I were arguing a lot about pasta. And he's like, pasta's gotta get going. If he's got, if he's not, if he's not gonna get going, like, we gotta get him out of here. And I was like, he's been three weeks, dude. You know what he's going to do? He's going to have 40 goals, he's going to have 60 assists, going to have 100 points. That's what he'll have this year.

[Kevin Clancy]

And that's what he has, of course.

[John Feidelberg]

Is what he has.

[Kevin Clancy]

They're doing again Lindor, you know, someone put up a tweet the mets paid Lindor $600,000 this weekend to go over 11. It's like, yeah, he's going to have a bad month and then he's going to be the best shortstop in baseball. And when it's all said and done, he's going to be like, one of the top baseball, top shortstops of all time.

[John Feidelberg]

And what also bothers me with that, that they didn't pay him money for production on the field. Yes, they did, but also, like, they spelled it for jersey sales and they paid it for TV rights.

[Kevin Clancy]

And like, you don't get Soto if.

[John Feidelberg]

You don't have a guy, like, losing money. Like, again. Yeah, any. Any time. Like, unless you are an absolute bust.

[Kevin Clancy]

Right.

[John Feidelberg]

Bomb you not playing well doesn't really affect your paycheck.

[Kevin Clancy]

Right.

[John Feidelberg]

Because what you're paid for is people to buy season tickets. It's people to buy jerseys.

[Kevin Clancy]

That's the attention. The.

[John Feidelberg]

It's like, yes, obviously the. Again, you're not getting it unless you're good. So your performance is expected. But when people start whining like, we're losing money, like, this is what we're paying. No, that's not what they're paying you for.

[Kevin Clancy]

Right.

[John Feidelberg]

Not what they're paying.

[Kevin Clancy]

Right. That's not how it goes. It's a business behind it. It's almost like people at barstool. It's like this person blogging more than this person.

[John Feidelberg]

It's like, that's not why they, you.

[Kevin Clancy]

Know, just attention and eyeballs and, like, you know, fanfare they bring is what matters. So. So what do you think, Jackie?

[Jackie]

I, like, I try so hard to follow. I just, I tune out every single time.

[Kevin Clancy]

What's something for the ladies? Do you watch Summer House?

[Jackie]

No. I've started watching Southern charm, though.

[Kevin Clancy]

From A24, Alex Garland and Iraq war veteran Ray Mendoza comes Warfare. It's a visceral boots on the ground story. It embeds audiences with Navy SEALs stationed in an Iraqi apartment building. I haven't heard about this. This is good news. Good advertising. This is good advertising because I hear a 24. I hear a title like Warfare, and I hear about, you know, like a war veteran making it, like, sign me the.

[John Feidelberg]

Also, Alice Garland is ex machina, which is awesome. Civil War, which I didn't like in theaters, and then watched it at home and loved.

[Kevin Clancy]

Really?

[John Feidelberg]

I loved it when I watched it at home. He's got a couple others. He's awesome. Yeah. The trailer for this. This. I've seen the trailer. There's a few movies I've broken my trailer rule for.

[Kevin Clancy]

Well, watching them in general.

[John Feidelberg]

I don't watch them at all, really. I Don't watch anything. I, I want everything I watch. I don't know a thing about it.

[Kevin Clancy]

Interesting. And the good thing this is in IMAX and theaters everywhere. So you can go out, see it on the big screen, get the whole movie experience and you know, see the next great war movie from A24. I'm in April 11th. Get your tickets now and round up the crew for a nice movie event. Go see it in IMAX in theaters everywhere.

[John Feidelberg]

Oh, Annihilation. That's the other one Alice Garland did.

[Kevin Clancy]

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[Jackie]

Oh, and I kind of.

[Kevin Clancy]

Okay.

[Jackie]

White Lotus.

[Kevin Clancy]

You caught up on White Lotus? Yeah, I didn't do a review this week. I thought this, this week's episode, boring episode. Right.

[John Feidelberg]

I thought I do this.

[Kevin Clancy]

I did this for, for a penultimate.

[John Feidelberg]

I. Well, that's the thing. Like, so I like, I guess they're just pushing to the finale, which is.

[Kevin Clancy]

Kind of not as usual, a lot of loose ends.

[John Feidelberg]

I think I've completely split, not completely flipped. I still think the brothers will scumbag, but I don't think they're even going to be involved in anything. I think they're just gonna be the monastic Monastery? Yeah, because you got to get them back. Because it's also. It ended at night. The shooting was in the morning. I'm guessing it's the next morning is when the shooting happens. So how do you get them back from the monastery for that?

[Kevin Clancy]

I've been a White Lotus Season 3 Defender with kind of the like, inherent idea that it's going to tie up. If it doesn't tie up, it's gonna be tough.

[John Feidelberg]

Well, of course I think it's gonna. Yeah, yeah, it's gotta tie up. But I.

[Kevin Clancy]

But, like, like, like, if, if, if Timothy Ratliff just is like, yeah, I don't know, like, I'm gonna be in trouble. He either needs to, like, kill somebody, declare that, like, we're hiding in Thailand forever, or you see some of the fallout. But if he's just like, kids, like, I made some bad financial decisions and I gotta go home and face the music, that's gonna be tough.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Even I'm already feeling that a little bit with Ricky. Like, okay, he confronted homeboy and, like, didn't really do it.

[John Feidelberg]

You know, I. I think.

[Kevin Clancy]

I never thought he was gonna blow his head off. And I thought he was gonna have, like, I need to do this. And then he did it and didn't. And there's something. There's something there about, like, do you feel better now you got this off your chest?

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

And, like, maybe the whole storyline is that nothing happened, but it's tough when, you know, it's built up and then it's just like, yeah, this is a very real reaction that would happen, you know?

[Jackie]

Yeah. I feel like the point of that was, like, because the whole theme is, like, you create your own reality and, like, you were a victim of your own whatever. And so it's just kind of like he spent his whole life since he was 10, like, when he could have the whole time.

[John Feidelberg]

But I think. I think that's, like, pretty poetic in itself. I've been. I've been blaming you for 50 years about. And now that I'm looking at you, I see you're just an old man. It's not your fault.

[Jackie]

Created this bad life for himself.

[Kevin Clancy]

No. And that's where it is. It's very interesting. I just don't know if it's necessarily, like, entertaining television for.

[John Feidelberg]

See, I think it's entertaining. I. I all. I. I find it very entertaining. But also, I. I'm not. I don't like when you're watching it. Are you trying to figure it out? Like, I'm just watching It, I, I, you know, I mean, like, when someone's telling you a story, you're not trying to beat them to the answers. Like, you're just listening to the story.

[Kevin Clancy]

I, I do it a little bit differently when I'm making videos about a show versus when I'm not. It's also just like, you could make a case for, like, everybody in a way.

[John Feidelberg]

What do you mean?

[Kevin Clancy]

Anybody could be pulling the trigger right now. I think the girls could be shooting each other. I think the family.

[John Feidelberg]

I think it's guys.

[Jackie]

Yeah, I think it's, I think it's him too, because they keep talking about the violence. And I think it's either gonna be like she is a damsel in distress and he's like, protecting her, or she's bad guy.

[Kevin Clancy]

I think it's gonna be accidental.

[John Feidelberg]

Oh, yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

I think it's good. I think guy talk is a good thing. But they talked about, like, going to the range and practicing and all that. And I think he's going to, like, be in a situation where he pulls the gun out and like, I like that.

[John Feidelberg]

I like guy talk. Accidental. Yeah, because he, because now he sees that, that it's an inside job. He's been told he is a coward and has no future. He knows who did it. He knows that this is the moment to see that you're not a coward. You do have a future in bodybuilding or bodyguarding. I think it'll. He has access to the gun. Yeah, I think it probably again, like, that's just, that was how the show. I think the show ended. And it wants us to think that.

[Kevin Clancy]

Right.

[John Feidelberg]

So I don't know if I'm right or wrong, but I think the show wants me to think that could be distraction.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, it could be like, like, that's why I think it's good. I think it's.

[John Feidelberg]

The monkeys are going to come into play.

[Kevin Clancy]

Monkeys showing the monkeys all season.

[Jackie]

And the blender has to come into play.

[John Feidelberg]

Has to come. I don't think the blender. I don't, I don't, I don't know.

[Kevin Clancy]

I say all these things. Like, I, I just, much like with baseball, like, I've done this dance with how many television shows, and there are shows, especially a one like White Lotus where we've talked about. It's just watching people live lives, those things might just not come into play.

[John Feidelberg]

I, I think like the blender, I've only heard from people who are like, like doing, like, dives.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Like the blender, when I watch, I don't really Like, I think the blender adds to the tension of a stressful scene. But I'm never like, that's coming back into play.

[Jackie]

But there's. But then there's no point in it.

[John Feidelberg]

It's just adding the tension. I guess it's never been like, run when they're having, like, a normal conversation. It's just like, makes things.

[Jackie]

What about. But what about him saying, like, chug the drink. Chug the drink. Like, there's something in that too. I guess. Maybe.

[John Feidelberg]

I guess. Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

I think the way you think.

[John Feidelberg]

But.

[Kevin Clancy]

But it can easily, like, Mike White could be like, it was just to be like, loud during the scene and, or show that he was like a meathead or fixated or whatever, you know. Not necessarily. It's going to be Chekov's gun. Like, I feel it is.

[Jackie]

Yeah. I feel like. Can I also say severance? I was disappointed by how many loose ends that didn't tie up.

[John Feidelberg]

I was. People loved the finale. I was very disappointed as well.

[Kevin Clancy]

I've only heard bad things.

[John Feidelberg]

I, I really like the season. I, I, I, I didn't think it was bad, but I, I didn't think it was as great as everyone thought it was.

[Kevin Clancy]

I, I really want to try to binge it and get into it, but I just think it's not.

[Jackie]

Oh, it, it just like, I really wanted there to be more clarity on what exactly they do. And, like, they didn't.

[John Feidelberg]

It's, it's the, the show officially for me is like, I don't really understand what's happening. I'm not, I'm not smart enough to know what's happening. But I do get that the acting performances are great.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

And visuals are great. And I'm like, I'm kind of just watching for that.

[Kevin Clancy]

Where you going? Are you going for a long time? I just, I want to talk more tv and I. Okay. Yeah. Have you watched the studio? I've only heard unbelievable things about the studio. And I'm watching that, bro, Episode two of the Studio. I, I've been on a. I've been on a big, like, think I'm hyping a lot of stuff up. A lot of recency bias. I think right now we are in a, A golden era of pilots and early episodes.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Awesome. And a couple series. I thought Dope Thief was incredible in the beginning. And it got a little silly. Paradise we saw, like, you know, became a different show as season went on, a time went on. So I still really like paradise. But, you know, we've had this guy, like, A higher level pilot than the rest of the episodes. Dope Thief, I think, is definitely that way. There's some in Dope Thief where I'm like, this is. Have you watched that?

[John Feidelberg]

I've done two episodes.

[Kevin Clancy]

There's a. There's a, like a battle scene. There's a shootout at a quarry with Juggalos and Molotov cocktails and sawed off shotguns. That is one of the stupidest things I've ever watched in my life. Episode 2 of the Studio is a masterpiece.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

And I also wish I had not used the uncut gems anxiety. Yeah. Comparison recently because that was thrown around frivolously. This had me screaming at Seth Rogen, like, just stop.

[John Feidelberg]

Just leave, dude.

[Kevin Clancy]

The whole premise is they are on set for this movie. There's a lot that goes on. But. But the main thing is they're on set for this oner. They're doing a one shot and it's. They have a small window of time with the sunset set to get the shot and Seth Rogen shows up on the set and they're like, the studio head being here is going to up everything. She's going to be begging him to use the private jet. He's going to be in the director's ear about notes and all, like, you know, and. And she's like, the director's like, this is going to ruin everything. And the other people who are like the studio Execs. It's Catherine O'Hara who is solidifying herself as an all time great.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like, she is.

[John Feidelberg]

Well, I mean, I think already an.

[Kevin Clancy]

All time great, but like, she's just kept going, like from shit's creek through now. Like she is that.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

And they are trying to remove him. Like, they're trying to get him out of there without like insulting him so that he doesn't ruin this one shot. And the whole episode is a one shot. The whole thing is a oner. There's no cuts, there's no edits. It's all just the camera, like moving with them. So it's an episode about getting a oner, doing a oner. And it. The way it came together in the end, I was like, this is a literal masterpiece of television.

[John Feidelberg]

It was.

[Kevin Clancy]

It was so funny, so well done, so cool. Like, kind of gave you like at least a dramatized inside look at how this is done. I'm sure it's not real real, but it looks. You know what I mean? The music, like, it was funny. It was interesting. It is unbelievable.

[John Feidelberg]

He. Seth Rogen had a Great line about it where he was like, the. Obviously, the premise of the studio is satirizing movies. Big Hollywood, how it works these days. The coolest thing about the show, I think, is that feels very old Hollywood.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Like, they drive classic cars. The whole, like, the tone of the show is like that brown, yellow, classic tone, but it takes place in modern times. So, like, it just has that feel.

[Jackie]

Like La La Land.

[Kevin Clancy]

You know who's great in it.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, exactly.

[Kevin Clancy]

Bryan Cranston's awesome.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Brian Cranston plays like. Cranston's in it.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

He plays like that head of the whole Warner Brothers, let's say. And he's like this. You know, he reminded me of Dennis Quaid in the Substance. Like an over the top.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Misogynist. Like, he looks ridiculous. Looks like a porn actor almost. And he's trying to get them to make horrible movies that make money. And Seth Rogen is a little bit more of, like an artsy, you know, Pabsy type. And so when he's on set for this is one or he's like. Like, you know, I think this would be good. I think that would be good. Because he, like, loves movies, but they're like, just get the out of here. That was so good.

[John Feidelberg]

But he had a line where he was like, talking about that episode in particular, I thought was really cool, where he's like, if. If we were gonna do a show satirizing the Hollywood film industry, he was like, to me, I had to show the viewer I know what I'm talking about.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah. So I had to look good.

[John Feidelberg]

So I had to be able to do a oner to be like, Look, I know a one thinking about for 60 minutes.

[Kevin Clancy]

It's nuts, right? Like, I mean, when True Detective did it, that was an action sequence. But still, True Detective did it for, like, seven minutes. And people talked about that for a decade.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, they did. They did seven. Then extraction two did 25. That one was crazy. Extraction two with the, like, a 25 minute one shot where they blow up. They don't. They get on a train. One track encapsulates a train coming in.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

And they get on the train and there are helicopters. I don't think the helicopter helicopters are real, but whatever. There's a helicopter battle. It's like all this is in one shot.

[Kevin Clancy]

That seems to be the little thing in the moment with stuff. With the adolescence and then this. Anyway. Have you guys still watch it?

[John Feidelberg]

I've watched Adolescence.

[Kevin Clancy]

I liked it.

[John Feidelberg]

I. I gave it, like. I would declare it very solid.

[Kevin Clancy]

Do you think it's, I mean, people are talking about it like it's the greatest show of all time.

[John Feidelberg]

I, I, I didn't, I, I almost, I didn't really think of it as a show. It was like a miniseries.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, right.

[John Feidelberg]

Like every episode was kind of like its own completely different thing. Yeah, I thought it was very, I thought I really liked it. I thought it was very cool. It did times just cuz again, an hour of watching one conversation.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like there was a scene where they're in the car together in, in episode three, I think it is. It's the mom, dad and the kid like driving in the car and like daughter absor. And it just like kept going and it was probably very real, but I was just like this, this is where you almost understand how much edits and cuts are in regular shows and how much scenes bounce around. Because I was like, we're still just in the car talking.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, yeah, that's what I, I would just like check out.

[Kevin Clancy]

Out.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah. Every, every time I was paying attention, I was very, I enjoyed it very much. But occasionally I would just be like, okay, that's enough talking.

[Kevin Clancy]

What's cool though is like there's, there's little things like when he's being interrogated or not interrogated, but like talked to by that the therapist, he yawns in the middle of it. And it was just like a real yawn.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

And the, the girl ran with him. Am I boring you? And he kind of like chuckles and he's like, no, no. And he's like, that was just real. They left it in there because, you know, it's all a one shot. But I, I think I would have liked that more had it not gotten its dick fellated.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like, everybody being like, I think it had the most minutes watched in like ever and highest rated. And people were like, this is the best piece of like cinema, period. Like, you know, movies and tv. And I was like, all right, calm down. And if you want to talk about the technical side, that might be true because that whole thing, shooting one episode 10 times one shot is probably unprecedented. But from a content point of view, I was kind of like, there were moments where it was great and there were moments where I was like, I don't know about that. The studio. That's very interesting though, that they had to make it like, believable that I am a movie guy. By, you know.

[John Feidelberg]

No, he meant like Seth Rogen, like as Seth Rogen as a writer.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like, Right.

[John Feidelberg]

Like, you have to trust me.

[Kevin Clancy]

Right. If I'M gonna critique the industry, but that means I have to know it. I think that's very cool. Very meta to like, like, you know, make it real. And in the. That I cannot. That the first one. The first episode's great too, but the second one, I was, like, taken aback by it. Like, I gotta talk about this.

[Jackie]

Feel like the Thanksgiving sketch out of order. Not that it was a one shot, but it was trying to, like, get it before the sunset. I remember I was being so stressed.

[John Feidelberg]

Out all the time. Yeah. Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

It's my worst nightmare. I hate the song. Outdoors, you gotta go right?

[Jackie]

Everyone was like, like, it was like a bunch of different people and everyone was, like, stopping and talking and, like, having side conversations. I just look over in PAV is like.

[John Feidelberg]

So.

[Kevin Clancy]

All right, imagine that times like a billion because they're on the set of a movie and like, like, like Seth Rogen changes his clothes at one point and that becomes a big deal. And then where he parked his. All these things. And at the very end, like, I as a viewer, I was like, the sun's gone. It was dark. It became dark. And like, then there's a big. They do that in Bat Babylon too. A big scene in Babylon is a guy's trying to make it and they're running out of time and he has to go get a new camera down the street to, like, come back right before the sun, like, comes in. It's only 15 minutes, but they extend it for like 30 minutes, and it's just. It's exactly what we go, dude. If I felt like that way watching it, Pavs will probably have, like, a stroke.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, he'll probably. And he'll love it. Like, thank God. This is like an.

[Kevin Clancy]

What other shows are out there right now? I feel like there's a ton. Dope. Sick. Dope Thief was. The pilot's awesome. The premise is cool, but it gets confusing. It gets. It's like a confused show in my mind. Like, there are times I'm laughing at it and I'm like, I don't think I should be laughing right now.

[John Feidelberg]

Really?

[Kevin Clancy]

There's some humor in it. The dude from Atlanta is the main character.

[John Feidelberg]

It's like Brian Tyree.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Henry or something.

[Kevin Clancy]

And he's like, a funny dude. And there are moments where he's kind of, like, cracking jokes and I'm like, I just don't think that's what would be going on right now. Yeah, I mean, we're talking about, like, severed heads and, like, your family's about to be wiped out sort of that one.

[John Feidelberg]

That one. Like, I. I like it, but, like, that's. It's almost like that one is, like, Episode two was like paradise. Episode two for me.

[Kevin Clancy]

It was like. Yes, okay. Yes. Right.

[John Feidelberg]

The very end. Episode one, where, like, she somehow survived and she's an FBI agent. And I was like, oh, all right, bro.

[Kevin Clancy]

There's a scene scene in the latest one. So she. She gets shot in the throat. Yeah. And at first, she's talking through one of these things, and she's like, I'm struggling to do it. And then she takes it off, and she's just, like, barely whispering. It's like, why the Were you using that?

[John Feidelberg]

I just told you, turn the music down. Like, literally.

[Kevin Clancy]

It was crazy. I'm in on the pit.

[John Feidelberg]

You like it?

[Kevin Clancy]

Been watching the pit? Yeah, Love the pit.

[John Feidelberg]

No, Wiley. Born to be an ER dog. Yeah, he's great.

[Kevin Clancy]

That's the main guy.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

But he also. He was the. He was the doctor on er, too, after Clooney left.

[Kevin Clancy]

So it's funny that you said that, because I was like. I mean, this. I was like this for obvious reasons, but also, like, I was like, this is giving me ER vibes for. I said, it's ER meets the West Wing, and, you know, sprinkle in a little, like, 24.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

With the whole, like.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah. The. The first, like, three episodes, I suppose, something like that I watched. I was like, this is good. It's a good, like, like, anthology, I guess. Whatever you call, like, an episode, a procedural, where, like, you know, here are the patients. They get solved.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yep.

[John Feidelberg]

New patients come in next episode, and then, like, four or five or whatever. When it started to become clear, like, oh, this all matters. It's all happening.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah. It's all together.

[John Feidelberg]

I was like, oh, never mind. I'm in Patience.

[Kevin Clancy]

Interlin with that patient.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Young versus old. That. I have not seen the birth scene yet, but I see the crazy man pissing on the guy.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

I mean, this guy, I don't know if it's a prosthetic or what, but he's just got his dick out. He's like. He's like a crazy person. They're trying to sedate him, and they send in, like, a rookie to actually have to give the shot, and he just gets, like, pissed on.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

I mean, you just see this guy's dick in his hand just pee, like, going like a sprinkler. This is nuts.

[John Feidelberg]

I'm guessing that was a prosthetic only just.

[Kevin Clancy]

I think the only reason it has to Be.

[John Feidelberg]

Because it's peeing.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, it's gotta be something you're just squeezing and like liquids coming out. Imagine if they're just like, nah, man, I want it. I want it real. Piss on me.

[John Feidelberg]

Just do it. The. You want to know a fun fact about the pit?

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

The. The. I don't even know if you're far enough to love her yet, but the doctor who's like, kind of autistic. The. The blonde woman who like, maybe I just haven't seen. She's just kind of. She's. I don't know, she's kind of particular or whatever, awkward and shy and. You know, everyone gets called autistic these days. And I don't know who is, who isn't, who isn't. If you're like, are you just a little bit of a weird person? Are you supposed to be autistic person? Whatever. But she's like a little bit shy and quiet and timid and all that stuff. And she's awesome.

[Kevin Clancy]

She. Oh, wait, that. Yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Blonde girl with the glasses.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yes. When they're like. I thought you meant the older blonde woman who like, kind of running the show a little bit.

[John Feidelberg]

No, no, no, no.

[Kevin Clancy]

The girl like. Cuz there was a scene just this last episode where the one doctor was like, I'll do the talking. Kind of like you don't have a bedside manner. You don't have to like do this, cuz whatever. Maybe they're implying that. But.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, but there is an episode where she. I forget what the explanation is. It's not her. I think it's her sister's autistic or something like that, but. But she knows how to deal with an autistic patient. She's good with them and she's great. She's like become a beloved character. She's very kind and smart and all this stuff and everyone loves her. And then it came out that she's Brian Cranston's daughter. And I was like, see, this is why you shut the up about Nepo babies. They're talented people.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah. You know what I mean? It just.

[John Feidelberg]

She's just quietly. Brian Cranston's daughter.

[Kevin Clancy]

I will just also never get over like, yeah, man, she's got Brian J. Cranson's genetics, right? She's a good actor. Grew up around her whole life and has the DNA. Yeah, no kidding. She went into action, grew up around.

[John Feidelberg]

It her whole life. Has a DNA, had money to go to good schools. Like. Yeah, probably had a favor or two called, but she's good. She ran with it. Give her a. Michael Jordan's kid didn't get to keep playing on NBA teams because he was Michael Jordan's kid. He maybe got a shot.

[Kevin Clancy]

He, he's, he's doing coke and banging reality stars.

[John Feidelberg]

But yeah, dude, the Pit. I, I, I was, I don't know if it's because I guess, like, the world kind of went away, it feels like, from hospital dramas, at least for men. I know Grey's Anatomy was obviously huge, but, like, after House, there wasn't really a hospital drama that was at least marketed to me. I don't know.

[Kevin Clancy]

And they're usually like, like Chicago Hospital or whatever.

[John Feidelberg]

Oh, right, right, right.

[Kevin Clancy]

But that's just like a procedural. It's like, this is like, like, you know, real storylines.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, this is, I really like it.

[Kevin Clancy]

I'm happy you mentioned Gray's Anatomy because Ellen Pompeo.

[John Feidelberg]

Yes.

[Kevin Clancy]

Meredith Gray, has a TV show out right now that is so patently ridiculous. It is a fictionalized version of that true crime story of the parents who adopted the baby. Who's not a baby. You know that story?

[Jackie]

Oh, yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

They got, like, a girl from Romania, but she was, like, 25, and she ended up, like, trying to murder them and all that, wasn't she?

[Jackie]

Not actually, though.

[Kevin Clancy]

So, so I'm a little confused right now because, like, there is a real story that that happened.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

And that person. The trial is still going on, and I learned recently that there are some people who are like, it was just a little girl. She was weird. And like, there was some. But she was a baby. Not a baby, but, like a child. I have not looked into that. This show references that, that case. So it's like a fictionalized version of it. Because in the, the, in the show, there's this other mom who's like, have you heard about that story where it is. At one point I was watching it, and then I was like, oh, wait a minute, I'm watching a Lifetime movie. And like, again, you know, flip my frame of mind where I was like, I'm just going to accept this for what it is. At first I thought it was gonna be like, an interesting show. The girl they cast is, it's her first time acting. She has some sort of, like, disability to, like, play this part. And she looks like, I don't want to be mean, but she looks like a freak.

[Jackie]

It was like, when I heard about this story, like, I wasn't really familiar with it, but I was like, how do you not, how do you mistake, like, having an adult the whole time. But then when you see this girl, you're like, oh, it's like.

[John Feidelberg]

I don't know.

[Kevin Clancy]

There's, like, scenes where, like, they walk in another bathroom, and she's like. She has hair growing, and, like, there's tampons and all this weird. The. The main guy from the league is in it. He plays the father, and it's just like. And I think he's a good enough actor.

[John Feidelberg]

The main guy being Mark Duke or Paul Dublas or Mark Dublas. Not. Not. Not the guy we've interviewed with Ari. Steve Rancini or whatever.

[Kevin Clancy]

No, no, no, no, no. The other guy. And he's, like, overacting, I think, kind of, like, on purpose. Because again, if you, like, think of it like a Lifetime movie, it's like, yeah, this is. This checks. There's. The whole thing is absolutely absurd. And I. I've never. That. And anybody watch Yellow Jackets. Yellow Jackets is the worst goddamn show in the world that I sit through every week. It is so absurd. It's about, like, a high school women's soccer team crashed. Plane crash. And they survive in the. In the jungle.

[John Feidelberg]

It's old, right? Or at least, like, season three, three, four.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah. And they've now and then, and they're living in the jungle. They become, like, cannibalistic and, like, Lord of the Flies type, and then they all somehow get home, and then they go on to live normal lives, but it's not normal. And, like, there's, like, a spirit from, like, the forest that, like, continues to haunt them. And there's death and all this. There is a character in this show, Shauna. She's, like the main character, really. And that. The old version and the young version of her is the most detestable character I've ever seen in my goddamn life. It takes everyone else. Give me Becca from Californication. Give me Dana from Homeland. Give me Carl from Walking Dead. All the bad child actors, all the awful female characters you hate, she puts them all to shame. And I watch it week in and week out. I'm just like, this. I hate this.

[Jackie]

What about her do you hate so much?

[Kevin Clancy]

She. So in the show, like. Like. I mean, in the. In the. On the island, like, when. When they're young, there's, like, this, like, who's the boss of the group? Sort of thing, right? Yeah, she's just like this. Who. They start, like, killing each other and eating each other, and she's, like, leading that charge, and at one point, like, they could be rescued, and she's like, no, I'm staying, I'm staying here because. And they're like, why? And she's like, because I can just like, like the vibe is off. Like, what are you talking about? You're marooned on an island eating each other and you could be rescued, like, go the home. And she's like, no, we're not meant to do that. And then the older, like, the older version is this like, she's like this annoying mom, but she still is kind of like this murderous too. And she's just kind of like very unlikable. And then like, she'll murder you too. It's like, I just, Shauna is, I watched the whole thing going like, I, I've actually grown to hate the actress now. If I ever see her, I'll be like, I hate you guys. Like, hat tip to you. I hates you. Could have been cool, could have been interesting. Went way too ridiculous and over the top. Way too absurd. All I've heard about this show is it's like the war Saturday. Yeah. Have you noticed that? Ah, I don't really, I don't have an eye for that kind of stuff yet. But so, yeah, there's a lot of TV out right now, good and bad, but, but plenty to watch right now. Did you think anything of the Morgan Wallen storm off?

[John Feidelberg]

No, I don't, I didn't really, I.

[Kevin Clancy]

Don'T, I don't doubt that he disliked it. Like, I think, I mean he posted the Instagram follow up for me is what kind of made it like, oh, I think he actually did not enjoy this. He posted.

[John Feidelberg]

But like he did, didn't do it last year. Like it's not like a, he's not his first time doing snl.

[Kevin Clancy]

I don't know. Yeah, probably.

[John Feidelberg]

Like I, I, I think I, I'm sure Googling Morgan Wall and SNL is going to just get halted up to that God's Country.

[Kevin Clancy]

It's the A picture of the PJ with Get Me to God's country is like, like, yeah, I'm sure he hates New York every time he's here. He's probably like, this place sucks.

[John Feidelberg]

But like this is one of those things. Yeah. So he did. He did. He's done SNL before. Like, like what it's this is, this to me feels very performative on everyone's part.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

On Morgan Wallens on, I don't know.

[Kevin Clancy]

It is weird, but I do think he was like doing that on purpose.

[John Feidelberg]

Like he was like, like, I'm a Southern boy, get me out of here.

[Kevin Clancy]

Kind of thing that on a bigger picture. And I think he like walked off the stage on purpose. I'm sure that they gave him a hard time all week. Not a hard time, but just were probably very cold to him because they don't like.

[John Feidelberg]

I don't, I just, I don't think so.

[Kevin Clancy]

You don't think so?

[John Feidelberg]

We work with people we don't like all the time. Yeah, we just talk to him and.

[Kevin Clancy]

We, I'm sure maybe he just thought that, but I don't think those guys gelled. I don't think that it was like, hey, man, great, great week. I think it was like, all right.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

And I think that's okay. But like, I think we have to just acknowledge that it's also the. Morgan Wallen is probably, you know, it's like Trump, Elon, a couple other people and Morgan Wallen on the right. Like, he's a big, he's a big fixture of the right.

[John Feidelberg]

Really?

[Kevin Clancy]

I mean, yeah, that, what that.

[John Feidelberg]

I knew, I knew like country music, but I didn't know he got like involved in like politics.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, no, he's, he's like, you know, he went to number one because people were like, like, didn't like the cancellation and we're like backing him like when, when he, when that video of him saying the N word came out, his career like took off.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

So.

[John Feidelberg]

But that's like, I think that more like, I think that more country music than Trump. I think that more like I, I, I, I, I. What I'm just asking is, has he like been like, I'm Trump or is it just.

[Kevin Clancy]

I don't know if he said anything, but that's what I mean. I feel like whether he's done it or not, he is like those people support him. There are people who support Morgan Wall and I think whether or not they. His music.

[John Feidelberg]

Yes.

[Kevin Clancy]

And I think on the other side, SNL is like this liberal left thing. Whether that's real or not, like those, they represent both those. So it's like the unstoppable force was the immovable object of dumb political, you know, and I'm sure there's some people on this set that he like probably vibed with and I'm sure like Bow and Yang and Morgan, well, didn't get along. Like, you know, so like everybody involved is. It is what it is. But it's like, I'm also like, I don't know, he's, he's a, a mega superstar who like. Yeah, probably self absorbed and think about like I'm gonna say goodbye to everyone, say thank you. You know, people. You know, these people on that level, like trash.

[John Feidelberg]

I think of it more as him. He did it on purpose so his fans would be like, hell, yeah. Morgan hates the New Yorkers, too.

[Kevin Clancy]

I definitely think. Yeah, I think. I think that is like.

[John Feidelberg]

Like, that. That was just like.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like, his people said, like, it was an oversight. I don't think that's true.

[John Feidelberg]

That. That's like a. You know, like, I'm just playing in my basement, man.

[Jackie]

Totally.

[John Feidelberg]

You know what I mean?

[Kevin Clancy]

Right.

[John Feidelberg]

Then this. Is. This what we're talking about. We're debating whether it's just real or not.

[Kevin Clancy]

Right. But I would if he was just like, yeah, man. Like, don't like it. Didn't like it. Like, God's country, it. You know, I'd be like, yeah, all right. Like, I get it. You're doing your shtick, basically. But to be like, oh, it was just like, an oversight, or like, he didn't mean anything by. It's like, yes, you did. You're overreacting, because it's not that big of a deal, but it is a thing. And, like, they. You know, anybody doesn't like New York and they don't get along and that's that. I don't know. It's not. They're like, he stormed off and it's like. I don't know. Out of all the Morgan Ball and things, the N word. Throwing chairs off balconies, and this doesn't even register, like, you know. Yeah, I think he's kind of a. He said the. Edward. Lil Durk and him did a song together, like, a month after. It's crazy. I would do anything to be in that one. I think that. Yeah, like, the God's country thing is a great play. Like, the. I'm sure there are people who are like, hell, yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

God's country from Morgan Watson hasn't been to church in 15 years. Right. And even, like. Even.

[Kevin Clancy]

I'm sure these guys, like, country music superstars now. They may live, like, in the South. Like, I don't even know if they're living, like, the Southern life. You know what I mean? You're probably in your huge mansion living, like, everybody who's in, you know, la. That's.

[John Feidelberg]

That's the Bo Burnham song. Bo Burnham's country song.

[Kevin Clancy]

No.

[John Feidelberg]

He's like, oh, my God, it's unbelievable.

[Jackie]

Oh, yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

It literally ruined country music music for me.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

We're like. I. When it came out at the time, like, I was listening to A lot of country. And it's just like such. And you could do it with any genre. It's not just that country is like silly or whatever you could do with any genre. But like, it's so like, it's.

[Kevin Clancy]

It. He makes like a stereotypical version.

[John Feidelberg]

And it's a banger.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

And it's so like pointed and like, it's perfect.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah. It makes you feel like when you see things like that, you're like, oh, man, I am like a puppet to be played. Yeah, I'll nod my head to that every single time.

[John Feidelberg]

He has one thing at the end where before it goes to like the third chorus, he just goes, you dumb want a key change. And the key change. And then you're like. And you start going nuts with it.

[Kevin Clancy]

That's another. To tie this all together. We've had one theme in this episode. Like, it's. It's very Trumpesque too. It's like you people think that, like, this guy really represents. You really believe it. And they're at home going, these dumb. Going to eat this. And. And there. I think there are people who even know that and are like. Like, I can't decide whether it's okay to just be like, yep, I'm just like a dummy and I'm playing like I'm getting played and that's okay because I enjoy it. Or it's like, no, don't, you know, don't give in.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Like, don't let them do that. But I guess life's not that serious. Just listen to music you like and.

[Jackie]

Like, we're here for, like, we just keep trying to entertain ourselves. Like we're here for so long just.

[Kevin Clancy]

Trying to kill time till you die.

[Jackie]

Trying to kill time.

[Kevin Clancy]

That's life.

[John Feidelberg]

Just trying every day. You just gotta find something to do, man.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, it really is.

[John Feidelberg]

It basically just get.

[Kevin Clancy]

Make it to bedtime.

[John Feidelberg]

That's.

[Kevin Clancy]

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[John Feidelberg]

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[Kevin Clancy]

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[John Feidelberg]

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[Kevin Clancy]

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[John Feidelberg]

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[John Feidelberg]

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[Kevin Clancy]

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[John Feidelberg]

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[Kevin Clancy]

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[John Feidelberg]

I like the pickle.

[Kevin Clancy]

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[John Feidelberg]

You do it with octopus and I eat it.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, right. You deep fry like that, I'll eat it.

[John Feidelberg]

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[Kevin Clancy]

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[John Feidelberg]

Jackie, that story that you told the other day, was his name Matt? Perhaps because I saw a TikTok of this guy saying, to save my company, I created this app and all you have to do is put your location in and then how early you want the notice for the sunset to hit.

[Jackie]

So I don't know, guys.

[John Feidelberg]

Pretty.

[Kevin Clancy]

Pretty average.

[John Feidelberg]

But maybe you read rekindle the relationship and you can become rich.

[Kevin Clancy]

Just my thoughts refresh me on this. What is this?

[Jackie]

The just. He had an alarm that. To tell him where the sunset was.

[Kevin Clancy]

That's the rape guy or. No, someone else.

[Jackie]

Okay. The not rape guy. Yeah, that's the same guy.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, that. That was when I was out on that guy, at first I thought, ah, this guy's cool. He's like putting up with this. On this wacky. And he seems like fun, but money. I have an alarm for the sunset.

[Jackie]

There are multiple things where I was just like, I. I notice when I try to like. I mean, not that I like, come off smart a lot, but when I dumb myself down, I understand. I don't know why I do it, but I understand it's a defense mechanism of some kind. And so when I'm. When I act really dumb around people, like, I was just like going along with this bullshit and like being like, oh, my. Like batting my eyes. Being like, that's. That's so cute that he probably was like, I'm killing it. This is so dumb. And so I'm sure that I think it was just like a mutual.

[Kevin Clancy]

You know what? My. Our version of that. At least my version of that is I've never done it for dating. Like, I've never with girls. I've never dumbed myself down. But for guys. Guy sports talk with guys who don't know sports. Oh, yeah, all the time. Like, yeah, man, you're right. Like, yeah, like that they should have, like, thrown the ball there and it's like, no, they shouldn't have, dude. You know, like, the dumbest takes and you just. And rather than just being like, no, you. I'm about to just, like, wreck your day with stats or numbers or just facts. Yeah, man. Totally. Totally. Right? Yeah. Why. Why do they just run the ball up the middle and get tackled on purpose? Yeah, that's what's happening, bro. Yeah, you idiot.

[John Feidelberg]

Music.

[Jackie]

It's not worth my time. Time to, like.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, yeah. What's the goal here? Is that I prove you stupid and you just feel dumb and we keep going?

[Jackie]

Yeah. It's like the girl in White Lotus who. She just wants to keep the peace. And it's like, yeah, she kind of proved it right. Like, it would have just been so much better and so much less awkward to just keep the peace.

[Kevin Clancy]

I also think she is a little more, like, shitty than. I think she's the best out of the three, but she's a little, like, manipulative and, like, shitty too. Oh, gossipy. And, like, all of them are. I saw. I saw a thing that was like, if you are. If you think that, like, Lori is being crazy, congratulations, you're the Jacqueline of your group. And, like, that's not a good thing.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

I mean, because I think they all have, like, bad traits to them. And then Kate is the one that's kind of considered in the middle, like, trying to keep the peace, which she is. But she's also, like, you're gossiping on both sides. You're playing both sides. You're pushing buttons. You know what you're doing. And then you're going like, oh, come on, guys, Guys. That whole. That those three are awful. All of them.

[Jackie]

Yeah. But it captures girl life.

[Kevin Clancy]

I'm sure.

[Jackie]

Not. Not girl life, but, yeah, like, I mean. Yeah, like, it. I think.

[Kevin Clancy]

I think that it's probably almost best to be Lori. But she does some whiny, too. But ultimately she's, like, in the right on all this. But it's like you're being. You're being dramatic and, like, childish in your own right, but this is being done to you. And, like, yeah, like, it's very clear that. That she got with Valentine. And, like. But you're also being a whiny, like.

[Jackie]

Crybaby, and she kind of, like, makes her life.

[Kevin Clancy]

She's a wine. Yeah. She's like.

[Jackie]

Waste of time.

[Kevin Clancy]

Whereas when he said, I don't think.

[John Feidelberg]

It'S better to be a Lori.

[Jackie]

Yeah, I don't think so either.

[John Feidelberg]

I think. I think the I. When I forget Leslie. Big Split Bib's character's name, but the blonde, the Bob. Kate.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

The. When she. At the end is like. Like, it's the same story.

[Kevin Clancy]

Agree. Yes. Yes.

[John Feidelberg]

That. That was. That's a kill shot.

[Kevin Clancy]

That was like, at some point, you're the complaint, and it's like, oh, yeah.

[Jackie]

And it's like. It's like Jacqueline's just like. She's a little, like, promiscuous and, like, whatever. And she's not. That's not a good friend. But I would rather have that problem than.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah. Jacqueline is all. She's just, like, the ultimate, like, example of, like, hot chicks can do what they want, like, every time. Like, look, she's not that bad. Like, give you. She's the hot one. She's rich for women and all that, but the, like, the one who's told to us is she's the hot one.

[Kevin Clancy]

You'Re like, yeah, she gets away with it. Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

She seems so charismatic.

[Kevin Clancy]

She's just looking for a good time. She's trying to have fun. I just think that. That, like, Lori is a complainer, but if. If Jacqueline doesn't do what she does, I think. I think the trip goes fine. You know what I mean?

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

So it's like, I guess maybe the. The point would be she would find something to complain about. But good for her, going out and getting dicked down by the crazy Russian guy. When you're jumping out of a, like, a Bangkok hut.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Some, like, Russian chick is chasing you down. You're living.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

I don't know if it's a good thing or not, but you go home with a story.

[John Feidelberg]

She also looked like she, like, I guess tried for the first time that night, too. Like, she had on a bunch of makeup, and it was like, she looked a lot better that night.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Then she has the rest of the show, I thought. I think I just saw how, like, people in our age group, you know, like, 20 to 40 or whatever, like, everyone tries scams. Because we were. We were raised in a world where, like, on TV and all, like, everything we saw, you can provide for a family with a paycheck, and we don't live in that world anymore.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

So now you got to have a hustle. Everyone's.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

It's like these scams up. And I was like, oh, that's kind of depressing.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, bro. I mean, you were raised this world.

[John Feidelberg]

Where, like, yeah, you have a job you can afford to do.

[Kevin Clancy]

I'll never forget finding out that my dad, like in the 90s when we were like, I think he made $80,000 and we had like a house and four people and like, you know, five people and, and we're just living like a pool and you know, just like a nice life. And I was like, I think it was like $80,000 before taxes, you know.

[John Feidelberg]

Like, how the is that even. I saw a tweet that I just said. I. I know, I know my co worker ain't raising four kids on the same page. Like, I know this page again.

[Kevin Clancy]

Crazy.

[John Feidelberg]

My co workers with four kids on.

[Kevin Clancy]

I don't know how that happens, man.

[John Feidelberg]

The, the, the. The brief fallback into television has reminded me that I'm dealing with a bit of an issue.

[Kevin Clancy]

Wait, when you say brief fallback, what does that mean?

[John Feidelberg]

Like, we were just talking White Lotus.

[Kevin Clancy]

Oh, okay. Cuz.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, but the. I got an issue here that I don't really know what to do with. Probably my favorite Instagram account is just a sex worker account now.

[Kevin Clancy]

I've seen a couple of like, I followed some things where all of a sudden they're just like an only fans. Girl.

[John Feidelberg]

It's curb your. It's curb your Larry David. It just posted curb clips.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

And now it's just. I was like, I was like, will this woman stop dropping ass and just post the Larry clip again, please? That happens a lot.

[Kevin Clancy]

That's a thing. Yeah, yeah. Because they just get a following and girls say, I want to get exposure, so here you go. But I know one I follow one that was like Louis CK Daily.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

And the girl running it is like a hot chick who was like, I'm gonna start promoting like my, like my personal page. And I don't, I haven't checked to see if she's like doing like sex work, but she's definitely like, hot work, hot girl work. This, this is like, this is a chick who just goes to anybody who has a hundred thousand followers or more and says, post me and here's the money for, for the Louis CK person running the account to be a smoke is blowing my mind. And maybe that's all, maybe that's all a, a ruse too. I don't know. But I was like, I can't imagine.

[John Feidelberg]

Telling like 14 year old John, like the Internet's gonna get so big that like you're gonna start getting pissed about seeing. Will you just post a curb clip, please?

[Kevin Clancy]

You know what I said when Larry.

[John Feidelberg]

Comes home and his mom already died? Post that.

[Kevin Clancy]

The chiropractic. Chiropractic. Chiropractic videos.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Entirely too horny.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, it's insane.

[Jackie]

Oh, I have.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yeah, it's insane every video because, you know, I like that kind of that satisfying stuff. So I used to love a good, like, neck crack video, and now it's guys being like, I'm gonna crack your tailbone. And they're just like putting a thumb up that girl's ass. There was one, he had a girl on her back. He stood over her and bent her legs all the way back and then like squatted down. His ass was in her face. His face was. Was in her as he held her legs back. And they. And he's just like. And you just got to get a good stretch in. And I feel bad for like, the regular chiropractor doctors who had like, probably a little bit of social media following from, like, listen how loud this crack was. And it's like, if your girl is not half naked and you're like, you know, jiggling her tits while you like, finger her and like, move her neck, you're not getting, you know, you're not getting any new clients, you're not getting any followers, not making any money. You have to be like a full blown sexual deviant to be a chiropractor on the Internet now.

[Jackie]

Yeah, I feel like it's kind of like, like to not to bring back to White Lotus again, but like whenever the family members are together, like now, they kind of ruin my trust where I'm like, please don't go there. Please don't kiss. Like, please don't kiss or whatever. It's the same thing that the chiropractor is like, please don't go there. Like, please don't do something. And then there it is.

[Kevin Clancy]

And then they like, you know, someone's like lining up and then they just like, take their shirt off before the crack happens. I'm like, and. And I. It was a time where if you would have told me that you can get, like, from your informational, like, Dr. Internet followings, you could get tits and ass like, oh, the world is the best place ever. And I'm like, this is entirely too much. Yeah, I gotta draw the line somewhere. Yeah. All right, last one. What we got? What's up, gang? I have a ripe with Jackie. Here it is. There's man and there's men. That's the plural. And then there's woman and there's women. This is, this is a jacket says woman.

[Jackie]

Whether it's one woman or like eight.

[Kevin Clancy]

Women, you definitely do it. It's women. Eight Women. One woman, eight women. One woman, eight women in.

[Jackie]

Okay.

[Kevin Clancy]

One woman.

[Jackie]

Okay.

[Kevin Clancy]

I wouldn't have a problem with this, but I was ruthlessly made fun of for this in grad school, so. Oh, well, at least he's, I have to point it out. Coming from the same. He does it as well, but yeah, you definitely do that.

[Jackie]

I, I, I don't see it, but I've gotten enough complaints. You'll say, like, it's probably a problem.

[Kevin Clancy]

You'll be like, woman everywhere. Say, blah, blah, blah.

[Jackie]

Okay. Okay. Yeah, you're, you're definitely right on this. I understand that I'm wrong.

[Kevin Clancy]

Men and women, you mean?

[John Feidelberg]

I, I haven't, I haven't heard it.

[Jackie]

So give me, give me. I don't. Well, now I feel like if you.

[Kevin Clancy]

Were talking in plural, if you were, if you were to say, like, women everywhere agree that men are bad and bad, she would say woman.

[John Feidelberg]

No, I get the concept. I always want to hear how you say the word.

[Jackie]

Women everywhere agree. I feel like as, as women everywhere agree. Woman, woman. Every room ever. I'm trying to like, not think about it. I, I, I do feel as though as a listener, it's a little bit your job to in con take context clues and figure out, like, what I am talking about.

[Kevin Clancy]

Listen, it's not like we can't figure out what's going on. I would, I would counter it's your job as the speaker.

[Jackie]

Which is so fair. And I understand because think about it.

[Kevin Clancy]

If it was, if it was man and men is a little bit worse than women and woman. Like, if you were to say it's a similar, like man think that, that men think that women are, are trash. You sound like a retard.

[Jackie]

So, so it's like, I, I understand. It really bothers a lot of people. It's never something that I feel like the words are so similar that, like, I kind of blur the lines. It doesn't really matter to me, like.

[Kevin Clancy]

What it is and it's kind of like figured out. Welcome to podcasting. But this is what, you just get everything picked apart until, like, you don't care anymore.

[Jackie]

I don't know. Yeah, and I'm, and I'm, I will work on it along with, like, I have the weight sleep. I, the dog shot collar, like, it's just too strong. But I want to see.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, we're not gonna electrocute you.

[Jackie]

Can you guys try it on to.

[Kevin Clancy]

See if it disagree?

[John Feidelberg]

Let's not, like, put that to bed.

[Kevin Clancy]

Totally. What if we put it on your ankle or something? Like, that. Your neck.

[Jackie]

Like, we tried it, like, on our hands and, like, you agree, Pats, it's too much.

[Kevin Clancy]

It's not just me. A little. It's a lot.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy]

We should stop doing this.

[Jackie]

I kept being the. Like, can we just try the lower setting? You'd be like, okay.

[John Feidelberg]

She would turn it off. Still too strong. Do it again.

[Kevin Clancy]

Do it again.

[John Feidelberg]

Ah.

[Kevin Clancy]

Even worse. I know.

[John Feidelberg]

Okay.

[Jackie]

Okay. That one was actually accidentally really strong. I'm going to try a lower setting.

[John Feidelberg]

You guys are just sitting there, just shot calling. I love it. I love it. Do me. Do me.

[Kevin Clancy]

Yep. Well, well. Woman. Woman can't handle electrical shocks.

[Jackie]

Woman crazy. That's. I. It's. I didn't realize, like, how. How much it really bothers people, but I will work on it.

[Kevin Clancy]

It's just. I mean, I've. No. Did you not notice it? No, I've always noticed.

[Jackie]

Oh, wow.

[John Feidelberg]

That's why I was wondering.

[Kevin Clancy]

I think most people just go, like, I know what she means. It's fine. You know, but it's definitely wrong.

[Jackie]

That's kind of crazy that you're just, like, sitting there talking about me in your head about.

[Kevin Clancy]

There was one time I tried to bring it up and I. Maybe I. I didn't. I didn't, like, convey it correctly or something. And you just shut me down so quick. I was like, okay.

[Jackie]

Oh, sorry about that. Yeah, you can always call me out of my. I got a lot of it. Keep calling me up. I'm sorry, though, to everyone listening.

[Kevin Clancy]

You're a bad representation of women. I don't even think it's whim that's the problem. You need to say women, not. You say like woman. You say like women. You say women. Woman and woman. Maybe, but it's women.

[Jackie]

Women.

[John Feidelberg]

We're mansplaining women. Do you.

[Kevin Clancy]

I saw a great clip of someone being like, are you really mansplaining right now? And he goes, no, I'm man.

[John Feidelberg]

Solving them. So.

[Kevin Clancy]

All right, we'll see you guys a couple days. All right, thanks for watching. Make sure you subscribe like, and leave a comment below.

[John Feidelberg]

Click that button or I'll cut off my finger.